1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:12,773 Speaker 1: from News Talks AB and. 3 00:00:12,853 --> 00:00:15,653 Speaker 2: The National Skin Cancer Survey came out this week showing 4 00:00:15,933 --> 00:00:19,493 Speaker 2: high rates of sunburn, especially in younger people. So eighty 5 00:00:19,533 --> 00:00:22,453 Speaker 2: two percent of eighteen to twenty four year olds had 6 00:00:22,493 --> 00:00:25,133 Speaker 2: reported sunburn and one of the which is of course 7 00:00:25,173 --> 00:00:28,013 Speaker 2: one of the biggest predisposing factors to the development of 8 00:00:28,053 --> 00:00:31,253 Speaker 2: melanoma later in life. Dr Brian Beatty is here with us, 9 00:00:31,253 --> 00:00:33,173 Speaker 2: so the first time in twenty twenty six scald a Brian. 10 00:00:33,213 --> 00:00:36,173 Speaker 3: Happy New Year, Oh cure Jack, Yeah, happy New Year. 11 00:00:36,173 --> 00:00:36,853 Speaker 3: It nice to be here. 12 00:00:36,973 --> 00:00:40,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's talk through some of the data in 13 00:00:40,253 --> 00:00:43,253 Speaker 2: this survey and some of the findings of the survey. 14 00:00:43,373 --> 00:00:46,893 Speaker 2: And yeah, pretty concerning that those numbers are so high 15 00:00:47,013 --> 00:00:48,293 Speaker 2: with young people in particular. 16 00:00:49,213 --> 00:00:51,693 Speaker 3: Look, look it is Jack, and this is a survey 17 00:00:51,773 --> 00:00:55,173 Speaker 3: that's done periodically by the Cancer Cancer Society and the 18 00:00:55,253 --> 00:00:59,893 Speaker 3: University of Otago. It's about just over two thousand adults 19 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:01,933 Speaker 3: over the age of eighteen were asked, look what was 20 00:01:02,133 --> 00:01:05,013 Speaker 3: what happened with sunburn? What happened with their attitudes to 21 00:01:05,653 --> 00:01:08,533 Speaker 3: the sun. So, yeah, look what was really interesting for 22 00:01:08,893 --> 00:01:11,773 Speaker 3: the total group about sixty four percent said that had 23 00:01:11,813 --> 00:01:15,293 Speaker 3: sunburn over twenty twenty four to twenty five, and of 24 00:01:15,333 --> 00:01:18,533 Speaker 3: that a quarter said that had severe sunburn. Now, severe 25 00:01:18,573 --> 00:01:22,653 Speaker 3: sunburn is two days of pain and blistering of the skin, 26 00:01:23,213 --> 00:01:26,133 Speaker 3: so that that's pretty pretty severe. It's like cooking an 27 00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:28,973 Speaker 3: egg in the pan. You're frying your skin essentially, And 28 00:01:29,013 --> 00:01:31,653 Speaker 3: those rates absolutely went up for that eighteen to twenty 29 00:01:31,653 --> 00:01:34,293 Speaker 3: four age group, eighty two percent said that it had sunburn, 30 00:01:34,373 --> 00:01:37,733 Speaker 3: and actually fifty percent said that it actually had severe 31 00:01:37,893 --> 00:01:42,133 Speaker 3: sunburn over that time. Now, the other really really interesting 32 00:01:42,173 --> 00:01:45,253 Speaker 3: statistic that showed up was it about a quarter or 33 00:01:45,293 --> 00:01:49,733 Speaker 3: twenty five percent believed that having a sun tan protected 34 00:01:49,773 --> 00:01:53,133 Speaker 3: against skin cancer, in particular melanoma. Now, this is a 35 00:01:53,173 --> 00:01:55,973 Speaker 3: real concern and that we think that's been driven by 36 00:01:56,213 --> 00:01:58,333 Speaker 3: social media, that you go out and get a suntan 37 00:01:58,413 --> 00:02:01,133 Speaker 3: and protects you against skin cancer. That's not the case. 38 00:02:01,613 --> 00:02:04,493 Speaker 3: A suntan is a skin's way of trying to protect 39 00:02:04,533 --> 00:02:07,853 Speaker 3: itself against damage, and that damage has already been done. 40 00:02:08,093 --> 00:02:10,573 Speaker 3: So yeah, look, these these figures we're actually really really 41 00:02:10,573 --> 00:02:12,893 Speaker 3: concerning in terms of where we're we're at in terms 42 00:02:12,893 --> 00:02:15,493 Speaker 3: of our attitudes to the sun in a country that 43 00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:18,653 Speaker 3: has really, really high UV rates and high rates of 44 00:02:18,733 --> 00:02:19,533 Speaker 3: skin cancer. 45 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:22,293 Speaker 2: I mean, that seems seems crazy that people think they're 46 00:02:22,293 --> 00:02:25,413 Speaker 2: having a suntan somehow protects you, do they Does having 47 00:02:25,453 --> 00:02:27,773 Speaker 2: a suntan mean you're less likely to get burned if 48 00:02:27,813 --> 00:02:29,613 Speaker 2: your skin is already more brown. 49 00:02:30,493 --> 00:02:33,093 Speaker 3: Well, I think what happens is as people get into 50 00:02:33,093 --> 00:02:35,733 Speaker 3: the suntan and they're less likely to get burnt. But 51 00:02:36,213 --> 00:02:39,053 Speaker 3: it's it's it's again the skin is trying to protect 52 00:02:39,053 --> 00:02:41,933 Speaker 3: itself against the damage that's actually been done by the sun, 53 00:02:42,413 --> 00:02:45,373 Speaker 3: so it's not protective. And again it's it shows a 54 00:02:45,413 --> 00:02:47,573 Speaker 3: power of social media that that there's been a lot 55 00:02:47,613 --> 00:02:50,213 Speaker 3: in social media and TikTok and things, you know, sort 56 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:52,973 Speaker 3: of promoting this thing that going out in the sun 57 00:02:53,773 --> 00:02:56,773 Speaker 3: protects against skin cancer and is healthy for you. So 58 00:02:56,773 --> 00:02:59,213 Speaker 3: so that seems to have grabbed a lot of attention 59 00:02:59,293 --> 00:03:02,893 Speaker 3: and sort a lot of traction across especially younger age groups, 60 00:03:03,533 --> 00:03:07,173 Speaker 3: and it is just essentially a myth. That's part of 61 00:03:07,173 --> 00:03:07,653 Speaker 3: the problem. 62 00:03:07,813 --> 00:03:11,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look far bit from me to have any 63 00:03:11,773 --> 00:03:15,333 Speaker 2: brilliant ideas for connecting with the youth, but I reckon, 64 00:03:15,533 --> 00:03:18,133 Speaker 2: we need to change the branding. So instead of instead 65 00:03:18,173 --> 00:03:21,653 Speaker 2: of reminding young people that having really good protection against 66 00:03:21,653 --> 00:03:23,933 Speaker 2: the scar the sun is a really good way of 67 00:03:23,973 --> 00:03:27,133 Speaker 2: protecting yourself against skin cancer later in life, which is 68 00:03:27,533 --> 00:03:31,813 Speaker 2: obviously a key message. Instead of instead of pursuing that message, though, 69 00:03:32,053 --> 00:03:35,413 Speaker 2: because young people tend to sort of think of vainer concerns, dear, 70 00:03:35,453 --> 00:03:38,773 Speaker 2: I suggest, I reckon, we should be saying, protect yourself 71 00:03:38,773 --> 00:03:41,333 Speaker 2: from the sun and you'll look better. You will look 72 00:03:41,373 --> 00:03:43,693 Speaker 2: better as you get older because you will have fewer 73 00:03:43,773 --> 00:03:46,453 Speaker 2: You're gonna have fewer wrinkles, you're gonna have less sun damage. 74 00:03:46,493 --> 00:03:48,613 Speaker 2: Your skin is gonna look better as you get older 75 00:03:48,933 --> 00:03:51,773 Speaker 2: if you protect yourself now, I honestly, I'm not even joking. 76 00:03:51,813 --> 00:03:53,693 Speaker 2: I honestly think that's the best way to go about it. 77 00:03:54,573 --> 00:03:56,933 Speaker 3: I actually agree with you. And what you've just said 78 00:03:57,013 --> 00:03:59,413 Speaker 3: is absolutely correct. The less sun you have, or the 79 00:03:59,453 --> 00:04:01,453 Speaker 3: less sun damas you have, the better your skin looks 80 00:04:01,493 --> 00:04:03,933 Speaker 3: as you get older. And that is an absolute fact. 81 00:04:04,373 --> 00:04:06,653 Speaker 3: So look, what this has stirred up is exactly what 82 00:04:06,693 --> 00:04:08,733 Speaker 3: you've just said, is what is the best way of 83 00:04:08,773 --> 00:04:11,573 Speaker 3: getting the messages back out there, What is the best 84 00:04:11,573 --> 00:04:14,013 Speaker 3: way of connecting with probably the younger age group, which 85 00:04:14,053 --> 00:04:16,813 Speaker 3: is probably the most at risk at this point in 86 00:04:16,893 --> 00:04:18,653 Speaker 3: terms of what you do. So yeah, perhaps a positive 87 00:04:18,653 --> 00:04:20,613 Speaker 3: message in terms of that that you look better getting 88 00:04:20,613 --> 00:04:22,453 Speaker 3: older would be a way to go, and maybe that's 89 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:23,813 Speaker 3: it should be thought about it. 90 00:04:23,853 --> 00:04:25,733 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm even thinking. I'm thinking about the social 91 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:27,773 Speaker 2: media that I've come across, and I remember seeing seeing 92 00:04:27,813 --> 00:04:29,813 Speaker 2: this post and it's done. You know, it's been around 93 00:04:29,813 --> 00:04:30,973 Speaker 2: the traps, so I'm sure I'm not the only one 94 00:04:30,973 --> 00:04:34,853 Speaker 2: who's seen it. It showed like a truck driver who 95 00:04:35,013 --> 00:04:38,333 Speaker 2: had on the who after you know, he was maybe 96 00:04:38,373 --> 00:04:42,533 Speaker 2: in his seventies or something, and it showed the side 97 00:04:43,013 --> 00:04:46,293 Speaker 2: of his body which had been on the window side 98 00:04:46,293 --> 00:04:49,333 Speaker 2: of the of his versus the other side of his body, 99 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:51,573 Speaker 2: and so basically half of his body had always been 100 00:04:51,613 --> 00:04:53,653 Speaker 2: in the sun and half of it hadn't, and he 101 00:04:53,693 --> 00:04:56,893 Speaker 2: hadn't had any protection, and it was like he looked 102 00:04:57,013 --> 00:04:59,373 Speaker 2: ten years older on his arm one side of the 103 00:04:59,373 --> 00:05:01,293 Speaker 2: body that he did on the other. Right. So this 104 00:05:01,493 --> 00:05:04,173 Speaker 2: is the kind we need to be given to the kids. 105 00:05:04,253 --> 00:05:07,133 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh one percent. Look. For part of my 106 00:05:07,173 --> 00:05:09,293 Speaker 3: career I worked in the outpack of South Australia and 107 00:05:09,333 --> 00:05:12,253 Speaker 3: I spent my whole time cutting out skin cancers from 108 00:05:12,293 --> 00:05:15,973 Speaker 3: peoples in their fifties and sixties who looked to be 109 00:05:16,013 --> 00:05:18,373 Speaker 3: honest seventy or eight eighty in terms of the way 110 00:05:18,413 --> 00:05:23,813 Speaker 3: their skin looked. It was leathery, it had sort of abrasions, 111 00:05:24,053 --> 00:05:26,933 Speaker 3: abrasions of redness all over and scaly, and it was 112 00:05:27,013 --> 00:05:30,093 Speaker 3: just a reflection of lots and lots of time out 113 00:05:30,093 --> 00:05:32,653 Speaker 3: in the sun with farmers and truck drivers. You saying, 114 00:05:32,653 --> 00:05:35,533 Speaker 3: a whole lot of people out there, and yeah, it 115 00:05:35,693 --> 00:05:38,973 Speaker 3: just strikes you that the damage to skin the sun 116 00:05:39,013 --> 00:05:41,893 Speaker 3: does over time. And yeah, I reckon a positive message 117 00:05:41,893 --> 00:05:44,733 Speaker 3: and maybe, yeah, someone would take that up, Yeah, because 118 00:05:44,733 --> 00:05:46,333 Speaker 3: I think it's a big issue. Very good. 119 00:05:46,373 --> 00:05:48,933 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Brian, great to chat. Look forward to catching 120 00:05:48,973 --> 00:05:51,253 Speaker 2: again Sering Doctor Brian Betty with us this morning. 121 00:05:51,933 --> 00:05:55,053 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 122 00:05:55,133 --> 00:05:57,933 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or 123 00:05:58,053 --> 00:05:59,933 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.