1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Afternoon. Dave Readie is the new head coach for the 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: All Blacks, announced at lunchtime today he's going to start 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: full time in June, once he finishes up coaching in Japan. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: The chair of New Zealand Rugby is David kirk Hi 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: David Hi, Have David. If he's starting in June. It's 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: a tight run thing to the first Test against the 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: French in July, isn't it. 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? It is a type but he's not actually starting 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: in June. That's when the Japanese competition finishes, and actually 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: it's a week before the Tuber Rugby finishes, so he'll 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: be coming down here on a pretty regular basis when 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: they have bi weeks up in Japan. So Dave's given 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: us a sort of calendar of when he'll be here. 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: So there are three from memory, there are three times 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: when he's here for pretty much a week during that 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: period and a number of other times in which he'll 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: be working with New Zealand Rugby. So we feel as 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: if that's acceptable, it would be idea. It's not ideal. 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: We would like to have him here the whole time, 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: but the reality, as the All Black coaches don't get 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: a lot of access to the players during Super Rugby, 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: they're in the Super Rugby environment and there are no 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: some sort of draft team together. 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Do you worry that it's not enough lead up as 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: well to the Rugby World Cup, which is in what 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: like just slightly over eighteen months. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: I think it ideally we would have a longer lead up, 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: but we're not in an ideal world. I think we 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: can definitely manage it. Dave's made the point really strongly, 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: which I think is a really good one, that it's 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: a real gift to him to have the rugby's greatest 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: rivalry this year. That as he gets to go away 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: with the players for six or seven weeks, play four 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: times against the world champions South Africa on a tour, 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: he just feels that that's really good the understanding of 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: the game model, the type of game that Dave wants 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: to play, help build their culture, have the team focused 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: on the on the details. He feels that that sort 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: of tours is ideal in accelerating his engagement with the 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: team and their learning of how he wants them to 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: play the game. 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: Why did you pick him over Jamie Joseph? 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: I just thought probably not, probably go into look an 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: extended scorecard. But I think what Dave is Dave has 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: shown in a selection panel was a really broad range 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: of international experience and success in pretty much all of 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: those environments. Coached in New Zealand, Wellington one or two 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: in NBC, and then the Chiefs in Super Rugby, and 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: then he's had international experience with Glasgow, coached them to 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: a Pro fourteen final with the Wallabies, and he's also 51 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: coached across in Japan and had success there as well, 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: So a lot of experience. The game is very global 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: at the moment, innovations coming from lots of different parts 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: of the world, and I think we've got Frankly, I 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: think we've got plenty to learn from the rest of 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: the world. So he and bring that back to us. Also, 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: we were very very impressed with his ability to build 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: culture and his clarity and detailed on views about what 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: was the appropriate game plan for New Zealanders to play 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: our type of rugby and win the modern game. 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: How was it you wrapped up contract negotiations so fast 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: because you had your interviews yesterday, You had to make 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: a decision overnight, take it to the board this morning, 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: get sign off and then that would have only left 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: you what like four hours or five hours or something 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: before you had to announce it to the public. 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: Good question, And the answer is, we did them before. 68 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: But we did the we agreed the contract contractual arrangements 69 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: before we concluded who we were going to appoint hold on. 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: So are you saying that you when you were doing 71 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: your interviews yesterday, you were basically doing your contract negotiations. 72 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: No, they were already done before we did the interviews. 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: When did you do that? 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: We'll just over the last couple of weeks. 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: Jeez, that's your heart. That's tough, because surely if you 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: were if you were wanting to be the successful candidate, 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: you'd go as low as you possibly could, wouldn't You. 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: Would be like to do it. 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: For five dollars. 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: They have that, they have managers or agents work with them, 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: and there is a there's a there's a sort of 82 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: a global rate if you like the expectation. And we 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: also had a very clear benchmark, which was what the 84 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: previous coach was on and their contract at that time 85 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: stretched out another two years, so we knew what we 86 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: would have otherwise been paying a coach, and we obviously 87 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: benchmarked around that. 88 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Now he seems quite keen on picking overseas based players, 89 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: are you. 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: Every coach that you talk to wants to put the 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: best players on the field, best players that they possibly can, 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: that they know that they know of, and so obviously 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Dave has been working with Brodie and others up in 94 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: Japan and he knows that they're playing very good rugby. 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: So it's not unexpected at all that he would propose 96 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: that we continue to look at There's nothing on the 97 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: table though as far as the board concerned at the 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: moment to change any to change any of our regulations 99 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: regarding overseas players, so at the moment that is not 100 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: under consideration. 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: David, thank you very much, really appreciate your time. As always, 102 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: David Kirk, New Zealand Rugby Chair. For more from Hither 103 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd be 104 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio