WEBVTT - "Try Or No Try Bite Or No Bite" 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:09.840 Oh, I have the energy levels on a Monday. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.360 Welcome back to the Mad Monday Podcast, brought to you 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.560 as always by four and twenty PI. Is a perfect 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.639 at home snack for watching the NRL Grand Final for 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.000 twenty twenty four. 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:19.840 My name is Tin. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.200 I saw a Monday OWI and joined in the commentary 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.720 position as it was last night, but the podcast position 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:27.920 as it is this morning, ed and for newer Keazy. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.320 Now a question I wanted to ask you, as a 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.920 man who starts work in the afternoon, and I presume 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.559 you have a cursory alarm that sets that wakes you 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.320 up before your missus goes to work and then you 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.840 go straight back to sleep. What time did you actually 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.360 get out of bed this morning after watching the Grand Final? 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:47.960 Well, we'll start with you. What time did you get 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.000 out of it? I took a sleep in this morning. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.840 I got out of a bit of eight eight. Yeah, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:52.720 I was nine thirty. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.560 Yeah the fuck it was good to Oh my god. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.480 And I feel like most people would have been like, 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.480 if you could, you would have taken Yeah. We got 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.720 a lot of tech last night, people saying that they 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.360 were going to take the day off right. There was 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.480 a Gohader's birthday. I hate his isit though? It was 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.480 his birthday on Sunday and he's like, I'm going to trend. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.160 I'm going to Monday as my birthday. Take that day off. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.479 Like, to be honest, my alarm goes off every day 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.399 at seven thirty, which when I was first working and 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.280 starting late working for Sky, I got into a real 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.080 hole where you just stay up till one am every 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.000 night and then wake up and get out of bed 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.440 at like ten. Yeah, you're back on UNI hours, that's right. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.080 And I'm like, I'm in my thirties now, man, So 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.360 seven thirty every day, my wife goes to work and 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.000 I don't feel like a massive piece of I don't 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.360 do anything. No For the first like two hours, I'm 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.160 a piece of shit. But yesterday was really nice that 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.319 I could just sleep and in fact, I even stopped 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.800 got some fast food on the way home. Watched the 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.600 video on YouTube. Yeah, oh, well, you know I live 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.880 around the corner from particular fast food chain. Yeah, every 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.800 few of them, a few of them, but there's one 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.720 that's literally like what four hundred meters from my house. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.200 It's actually harder to not go through there, that's right. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.560 And the lights weren't playing ball, so I just carried 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.360 on straight, turned into there and ended up eating that 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.000 in front of the TV. It was delicious. Yeah. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.160 And that was of course the out just around the 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.440 court of your house and drive through four and twenty piles. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.640 The Grand Final last night, fourteen points to six in 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:12.040 the end. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.160 Yeah, And as we predicted, it wasn't going to be 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:15.519 a high scoring A fair and I two of the 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.239 best defenses in the in the league. Yeah, it was 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.079 always going to be stingy a. I was talking to 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.839 Lane this morning about it. He's like, Oh, you could 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.880 have let me know beforehand. I had all these bits 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.720 on it being over X amount of points. Who did 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.560 you talk to? Well, hang on, you could have let 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.160 me know. Why are you putting bits on something if 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.919 you have no idea? I know what? And why didn't 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.600 you ask me beforehand? Yeah? He had. He had like 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.080 nine different bets that involved multiple tri scores, not in 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:40.800 the screen final. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.760 I have not talked to anyone this morning, and I've 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:44.720 talked to a lot of degenerates today. I have not 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.359 talked to a single person who hit a bit last night. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.600 No, absolutely, I almost did. Shit, I almost did when 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.560 I just said, will Warwick to score and my multi 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.480 to come in. But it's just no one. No one 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.800 had anything. If it was another one of those scrand 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.360 finals where you've got the Panthers and then in a 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.359 team a sort of middling like if the Sharks or 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.280 someone had got through, Yeah, that's when you'd be getting 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.560 a lot of any times. But against Melbourne, it's not happening. No. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.639 And like I said before, we all predicted it was 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.800 going to be stingy on defense, and I felt like 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.399 both teams were quite tense when they were Yeah, particularly 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.440 the Panthers I thought were I was talking about it 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.360 at nauseum on the commentary last night, but I was 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.960 like their fifth tackle options were just chaotic. Yeah, there 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.680 was a phase, especially in the first half, where they 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.280 kept sort of they pass it out wide and then 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.280 Luay or someone would pass it back infield against the 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:36.880 grand play and then all of a sudden, Mitch Kenny's 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.360 got the ball or Isaiah Yo. It's just like, oh shit, okay, Yeah, 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.360 that was quite unpredictable. James Fisher Harris looked out to 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.280 the wing and his eyes lit up, and I think 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.560 you've had in a Panther's jersey was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.800 He thought about it. Isaiah Yo had to think about 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.440 it as well. Yeah, there were a lot of Fords 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.240 getting the ball and having it, like even for the 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.200 stormlic cart with that weird little chip kick that went out. Yeah, 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.600 so a lot of guys were definitely was not the 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.800 plans that Ivan Clear and Bellamy had put in place? 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.720 Or are they both so good that they shut down 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:09.400 what each other was trying to do? 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:11.960 So okay, this is how good they are as coaches. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.600 They're now getting benefit of the doubtful like bad things 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.080 that happened. Yeah, well no, I'm saying like defensively, both 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.600 teams were so excellent defensively. Maybe okay, maybe why the 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.120 Panthers looked so frantic on the fifth tackle was because 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.720 Melbourne Storm coming. He knew exactly what they were trying 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.600 to do. He's like, let's just shut it down. I've 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.600 got to say I didn't. I didn't actually see who 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.440 ended up giving the Clive Churchill was it Liam Martin? 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.680 Was Liam Martin? Well scored a try stole the ball 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.760 clean off. Xavier coach could have scored himself again, Yeah, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.720 freaked out and pasted it, but it ended up being 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.919 a Paul Alamodi try in the corner, even though he 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.320 was very unhealthy and his shoulder was knaked shit. Nathan 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.400 Clear was just any everything his running game, he was. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.080 He's such a good player. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.240 There is a chance that we're watching one of the 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.880 greatest players of all time. There's a chance we're watching 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.160 the greatest rugby league player of all time. That's it's 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.720 all said and done. It's going to be very hard 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.120 to argue against. And I would actually say that now 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:05.239 that they've hit this four. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.599 Peat, and in fact, I probably would have said this 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.600 last year. I reckon and I'm not a great historian 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.279 of the game, but I'm willing to go on wax 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.360 and say this the other greatest rugby league team of 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.719 all time, this Penwrith Panthers dynasty. So what are the teams? Then? 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.159 This is where we need Ben Hurley and Die Henwood. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.359 What are the teams that would you know, well, the 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:26.080 one that sticks out. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.080 So this is the third team in history to win 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:32.039 four straight premierships, and the first since Saint George, who 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.080 won eleven in a row from nineteen fifty six to 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:36.440 nineteen sixty six. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.880 I'm going to go ahead and say that's the greatest NL. Yeah, 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.320 but eleven man, would you say, who do you think 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:48.839 is the greatest basketball player of all time? Blake Griffin? Okay, 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.680 and so he's won how many titles? No? Now, because 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.080 he was my favorite player for a long time, I'd 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.920 say the best basketball player of all time is probably 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:01.120 Lebron James. Yeah, and so he's won four or five? Yeah, four, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:02.960 He's been there and thereabouts a lot. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.400 If you want to say Michael Jordan's the best for 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.039 bust same player of all time, he won six, Yeah, 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:12.640 that's right. Bill Russell won eleven championships, but nobody considers 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.039 him to be the greatest of all time. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.000 And when you think about it, too, basketball's five players 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.960 on the team, so he's a pretty light pevotal role. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.280 He's not one of thirteen. He's twenty percent of the thing. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.680 So all I'm saying is eleven in a row back 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.080 in nineteen fifty. I just don't think it really. No 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.120 one can remember that team done lately. Yeah, that's that's 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.240 all right, But also it just I don't know, there's 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.520 just something about this team. If you want to say 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.840 that that st George side that won eleven in a 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.520 row is the greatest NFL team or Rugby league team 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.400 of all time. Then you've also got to say that 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.640 Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player of all time. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:52.080 Well, the difference is eleven in a row that Bill 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.320 Russell did the exact same thing. No, no, no, compared to 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.920 four in a row, That is a huge gap. That's 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.040 not Lebron with his four or whatever. It is compared 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.560 to Michael Jordan's six. No, but it's Lebron compared to 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.640 Bill Russell. It's literally the same number. Okay, I'm gonna 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.520 have to do some more research into this, Saint George. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.080 I want to know how many people will play, how 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:12.680 many teams there were, Zach Lomax aren't still firing? Was 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.680 there a party at Paul Vaughan's, That's right. I wanted 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.040 to know all this sort of stuff. Was there a 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.960 was Corey Norman hiding underneath the bed? These are the 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.360 things we need to know about that team from the 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.320 fifties through to the If anyone listening that was sort 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.880 of old enough to have witnessed that, so you know, 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.320 maybe eighteen onwards, Yeah, it's listening right now, So you 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.720 probably what almost ninety at least, ye send us a 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:39.640 talk back on the iHeartRadio ninety years old, get your 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.760 nurse to fire one through for you, Yeah, and joining 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.280 the discussion. Yeah, I don't know. I just think it's 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.320 it's definitely a discussion now. And I know it's always. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.680 Weird when we when we're watching them play, Like the 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.080 same thing's happening with Lebron where it's like, how can 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:54.680 you say that he's the best? It's hard to say 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.480 when you're watching him. I you know, like I said, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.640 I was a kid when Joey John's was doing his 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.000 thing but for all his purposes, a lot of people 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.480 saying he was one of the greatest of all time. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.040 It is hard to And also that's sixty years ago 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.360 almost that they won their last one. That is just 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.200 such half a century. Yeah, it's a different game, man, 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:12.680 it is. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.760 It's like when you go back and watch Pine Tree 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:19.360 Meads videos, Broddertallic would snap Pine Tree Meads and half. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.240 Yeah, And if you put the Panthers out against that 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.960 original team, they would abou destroy them one hundred percent. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.360 But I just think it's it's tough. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.600 It's the same thing that's happening not to use another 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.760 basketball analogy, but when the Golden State Warriors were dusting 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.679 everyone and people were starting to get a little bit 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.920 bored of it. Now we look back on it and 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.080 we're like, that was greatness and we got to witness it. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.800 I think that's how we look back on this Penrith 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:40.360 Panthers team. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:41.880 That's how you know it was greatness because it was 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.000 just suffocating the life out of everyone with how great 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:44.280 it was. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.400 And casual fans were like, oh god, these guys again. Yeah, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.280 my missus one of the storm to win just because 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.280 she's sick of the Panthers. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.200 That's good. That's how good they've been. Yeah, and she's 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.240 not exactly like a you know, an into it legey. Yeah, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.120 she just is sick of hearing about the Panthers being good. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.800 That's right. Ah. What do you think the Panthers moving forward? Obviously, Leuile, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.079 there's quite a lot of players leaving sort of. James 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.680 Fisher Harris is leaving as well. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.880 Would it surprise you to know that the Panthers four 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.400 dollars twenty five favorites to win it again next year? 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.640 No, it doesn't, because every single person they bring through 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.560 it doesn't matter who is leaving. You know, Stephen Crichton left, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.000 Matt burdenle It just does not matter. Viliami Keku left 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.600 and that left side was the most dominant side in 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.440 the NRL last season and now it's not. It doesn't matter. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.959 They still won't up cottas Ou left. So like if 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.440 you put those are some top level players, it has 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.520 not made a difference. They've still got Cleary, They've still 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.160 got Yo. I think it's a massive part of this 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:45.600 and probably one of the underrated members of that team. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.080 Well they lost Lynn you as well, yes, so, but 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.760 now they've got all these other follows coming off the 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.600 bench that have just slotted into these roles. You've got 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:54.920 Schneider in the haves, who seems pretty sound. Ye looks 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.360 like he rode for Germany at the Olympics. I saw 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.120 him on the sideline For some reason, I just had 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.280 never seen what night to look like. I don't know why. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.760 Up close did he wear headgear? Yeah, and so seeing 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:11.599 this like Nazi Hitler youth guy on the sideline, the Schnyder. Yeah. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.679 But I to be honest, five in a row, I 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:16.600 think it will happen. 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.120 I mean, James Fisher, Harris, you know he's a big loss, Louis. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.160 I wonder about whether the team may get better for 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.720 not having I. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.240 Think we like to think that because he's a prick. Yeah, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.080 I bet, I bet it'll be worse without him. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.800 I couldn't watch all of the celebrations that he was doing. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.480 There was a photo that was doing the rounds and 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.880 it's him leaning up against the goalposts with all his 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.920 like his medal around his neck and blah blah blah, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:41.880 and the caption was, what do you think is going 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:43.720 through his head right now? I was like, I guarantee 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.559 what's going through his head right now? Is I bet 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:46.440 I look sick. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.200 Sitting every celebration, he had to just be right there, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.320 front and center in the middle of it, as if 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:55.960 it was his celebration and he was sort of ring 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.280 leading it for everyone else his birthday party and you're 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.520 all just invited. That's exactly what it was like. Well, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:01.920 at least he's not going to have that at the 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.240 Tigers unless, and this is going to be really annoying, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.960 he really spearheads a turnaround and is like an all 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.600 time great After that, all's forgiven at that point. But 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.280 then we would have to just be like, Okay, he's 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.400 a deck but he's pretty damn good. Yeah, I don't 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:16.160 think that's gonna happen. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.560 I'm not there now, despite the fact that he's just one. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.040 For the last four years, if he's walked onto a 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.920 rugby league pitch to play in a competition, he's won it. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.360 Unless it's in New South Wales. Is probably the only hookut. Yeah, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:28.920 and you know, but everything else good as goal. I 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.400 think did he play for some more as well? Eighty 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:32.679 thou attendance as well? 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:36.040 And that's the stadium of course, stadium there that they've 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.000 been having a lot of issues with this year where 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.400 they've been. They've booked a lot of games there, but 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.520 no one, no one's turning up. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.920 Yeah, and it's just a I forget what the term 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.559 is when it's just like it sucks the life out 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.720 so massive. I know, it's one of those stadiums that 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.000 it's no I feel like it's no one's true home ground. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.000 No one feels an affinity to it. So it's like, 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.960 I don't know. But but when it is full, it 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.480 looks ridiculous. I mean it looks like a toilet bowl. Yeah, 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:01.400 it's Hessen. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.360 From from the top angle there. It looks like it, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.680 but eighty thousand people in the air. Well, it's like 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.960 playing at Wimbley or something. Right, It's just it's the 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.440 big dog of Australian stadiums. You haven't you're the right 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.040 for these two teams to be there. It's just packed out. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.400 This fireworks the Kidler Roy is playing. Yeah, there's plenty 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.920 of as we're saying on the commentary last night, now 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.319 that's what I call white people music. Volume one was 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.240 in full blast, which was great. Oh my god. So 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.720 they had Sweet Caroline it was the first one. Yeah, 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.080 they had. The next one was take Me Home Country, right, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.520 Home Country Roads. The Gambler came on after me saying 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.360 I wonder if the Gambler will be on there. Sure enough, 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.560 the very next one, the Gambler. It was out of control. Yeah, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.120 there are hits. It's a universal thing. There are hits 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.480 that people just fucking love. Oh. Absolutely, we're at Oktoberfish. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.439 That's exactly all of the songs they played in the 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.199 English speaking tents. Just play that shit. Oh man, it's 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.600 like they were just dancing Queen One, dancing Queen away 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.040 from just you know, playing the full album back to back. Yeah, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.120 just call of an atmosphere that looks so great, bringing 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.600 the place to its knees. Yeah. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.720 Another thing I thought funny that was funny on social 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:08.160 media this morning was almost every outlet posted a picture 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.160 of the kid l Roy and said, how do we 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:11.280 rate that performance? 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.000 What do we think of that performance? I felt like 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.400 they were trying to bait. Yeah. Absolutely, they were introversial opinion. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.000 Yeah, and all of the top comments are always were 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.880 always like great, love him, he's Aussie, he's a league fan, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.720 a brilliant because I think for the longest time, the 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.920 NRL has been stuck in this like eighties promo thing. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.560 They play old rock bands and they you know, and 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.160 and that kind of music. They promote it like it's Bathurst. 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.360 It's like this year, do we go Cold Chizzel again 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:37.959 or wolf Mother? 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.040 Yeah exactly. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.760 But it's like what percentage of the league now is 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:45.800 of Polynesian descent. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.640 They don't. They're not listening to the Cold Chizelna Unfortunately, 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:49.680 they're missing out. Yeah. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.920 And because and because the you know, it's growing, so 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.559 the audience is getting younger and younger. They don't associate 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.040 the league with old rock bands anymore. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.079 No, And so what they did. There was but the kid. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.040 And to be honest, the kid LaRoy is almost I 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.280 don't I'm not across as too young for me as well. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.480 Yeah yeah, all of that. We're fitting into the older 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.439 fellers category now. And so you had the kid l 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.880 Royce and all the sons and the daughters of league 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.800 fans were entertained and then boom, Sweet Caroline comes on 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.760 for us old bases. You know, everyone's happy, So just 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.600 get like a nice common ground there. Yeah. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.040 And I think the other thing about the pregame entertainment 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.760 is it always looks shit. When you're playing on a 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.440 rugby league field, which is enormous. You can't see the 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.640 guys down there on the track. It always looks shit, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.840 it does. It don't really matter who it is. Man 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.640 Embone's six sixty did the Aedton Park No the Grand Final? 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.240 Oh my god? And they got shit on. I hated 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.640 it works because it's supposed to be this big hype up. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.720 For the game. They're like, don't forget your roots. It's like, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:53.760 the fuck are these guys. 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:00.160 The game wasn't without its controversy, though, I think one 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.520 of the biggest ones was I mean, I mean, it's 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.840 the biggest cont controversy from the game, the Jack hewth 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.240 try no try in the fiftieth minute when we watched 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.800 it live and they showed that first replay on the TV, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.480 you could see the ball touch the ground. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.600 But have you seen the other replay angles that round? 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.600 I have, Yeah, so I don't think that cancels out 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.080 the first one though. I think the mistake they made 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:27.920 was obviously in the bunker they've got because I've been 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.520 in control rooms before. The one at Sky there's fifteen 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.840 camera angles, yeah, and they've only allocated three and a 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.920 shot of the referee to be the ones on screen, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.080 so they're looking at more than just the ones we're 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:45.960 looking at. But in order to avoid controversy, controversy, controversy, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.800 they need to flash that one up, you know. They 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.720 need to put that one up first and get everyone 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.960 on the same page. And they'd be like, it's no try, Yeah, 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.000 that's right. And the other thing is if you're going 0:15:55.080 --> 0:16:00.160 to have a bunker then and we stopped the game, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.280 then let's go through the whole process. I don't think 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.640 anyone's too worried. If it takes like three minutes. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.360 They've split it right up. Having that I know, and 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.280 that's what it felt like it was last night. It 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.320 was like they showed us that one on TV. They 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.160 watched however many others they did, and then they were like, no, no, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.840 it's not a try. I do feel like the NRL 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.800 has done a great job today of plastering that video 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.640 that we've seen everywhere, because I've heard that they took 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.560 all the media into a room after the game and 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:27.720 showed them that replay. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:28.280 Great. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.200 So yeah, but I feel like it's a bit of propaganda. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.840 But I wonder if we can't afford to have this 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.040 be the storyline. So what we need to do is 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.080 Floody runs social media channels with this other angle that 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.000 looks like there's a hand underneath the ball. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.760 Well, it didn't look like it there was a hand 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.560 underneath the ball, So then what was that other one 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:50.360 where you could clearly see it hitting the checker of 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.800 the lens refraction, So that one's refraction, but the arm 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.320 under the ball don't. I don't know. All I know 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.440 is that Jack Howith almost lost them that game by 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.720 not scoring the try. He went in in a real 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.240 non try score of fashion. He's pretty young and inexperienced fella. Yeah, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.320 and like just get the ball on the ground. He 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.159 did it weird, it was like and it was just 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.600 the wrong way to score a try. And if he 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.080 had scored that, Melbourne would have been slightly hid. They 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.880 would have drawn a level yeah, yeah, and then had 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.760 a kick. Well that's the thing, and then you know, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.719 the Panthers second try through Liam Martin was a total 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.840 like just freak him stealing the ball of Xavier Coats 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.159 like that is something that's just I just feel like 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.359 it would have been a completely different result. Yes, if 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.800 he had just scored the try, like it was not 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.720 a hard one to score, yeah, and he went incorrectly. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.320 Yeah, I do, in my heart of hearts, believe he 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.840