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Speaker 1: Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello all you great New Zealanders, and welcome to a

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Speaker 2: very special Halloween edition of The Matt and Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 2: on News Talk zed B. We get to Halloween later on.

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Speaker 2: We've got some horrible songs, We've got some horrific movies.

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Speaker 2: And in the first hour.

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Speaker 3: We talked about intervention. That was is it okay? Look?

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Speaker 3: This is on the back of some pretty hairy situations

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Speaker 3: on old public transport. And we talked about on the

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Speaker 3: sports field, kids games, parents going a bit crazy. Is

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Speaker 3: it too full noise to intervene?

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Speaker 4: Boy?

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Speaker 5: We heard a lot of really interesting stories about people

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Speaker 5: that have intervened in violent situations and terrifying situations, and

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Speaker 5: we talked to Mark an X cop about what you

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Speaker 5: actually need to do.

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Speaker 3: He was great, wasn't he?

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Speaker 6: He was great? So fantastic show.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the gap year. Wait before we give

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Speaker 3: him a taste the KeyWe let's talk about the gamp year.

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Speaker 7: It was a fantastic how gap Yeah, people coming and

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Speaker 7: sport on, kids going on their gap year because the

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Speaker 7: year thirteen's are finishing up for the year right now,

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Speaker 7: So that's a great hour as well.

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Speaker 6: Give him a taste of kiwish.

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Speaker 5: All right there, okay.

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Speaker 8: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four News talk zaid.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome into the show Thursday afternoon. Matt's how you doing.

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Speaker 5: I'm terrified today It's Halloween.

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Speaker 6: It's a terrifying, very.

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Speaker 5: Very scary day.

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Speaker 3: Scared though, I've already.

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Speaker 5: Seen a witch and some cobwebs this morning, so yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm on edge.

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Speaker 3: I didn't nice you about the Trevor of Scott concert. Actually,

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Speaker 3: you live incredibly close to Eden Park. That's all I

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Speaker 3: saw online last night, and how blooming allowed that concert was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the wind was going the other way so I

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Speaker 5: couldn't hear at my house. But I live near Eaton

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Speaker 5: Park because I love the concerts and I love being

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Speaker 5: close to the sporting fixtures, just being able to walk

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Speaker 3: You're almost like the opposite of Helen Clark. You love it,

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Speaker 3: you bring it on concerts.

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Speaker 5: Twenty concerts a year, I'd be happy. Although I've got

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Speaker 5: to say post post Trevor Scott concert, there. There was

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Speaker 5: a bit of ruckus on the road just in front

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Speaker 5: of my house. It was a little bit of a ruckus.

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Speaker 5: I was about to go out. I was about to

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Speaker 5: go out and say something.

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Speaker 3: Not really, you're twitching those curtains and say what are

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Speaker 3: these youngsters up to? How dare you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: No, it was definitely a sort of a raucous situation

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Speaker 5: post concert. But no, I couldn't hear a sound from

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Speaker 5: joining the concert, which is amazing. I'm only four hundred

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Speaker 3: Good insulation obviously, right onto the show after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned it as Halloween, so we're going to

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Speaker 3: be chatting Halloween stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. How do you celebrate it? I like

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Speaker 5: to watch a horror movie with my kids. I'm a

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Speaker 5: big fan of forcing my kids to watch horror movies.

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Speaker 6: Wow, forcing them, they love it.

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Speaker 5: It's great. It's great to scare them. It's a great

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Speaker 5: way to celebrate Halloween if you do. How do you celebrate?

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Speaker 6: Also? What is the best horror movie ever? I watched?

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Speaker 6: As I said before, I watched Late Night.

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Speaker 5: I was saying to you before Tyler, not to everyone,

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Speaker 5: that I watched Late Night with the Devil Last Night.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic horror movie, really really good.

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Speaker 3: I love that too. It I think it's just dropped,

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Speaker 3: And it looks like a B movie, It honestly does.

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Speaker 5: It looks it looks like a nineteen seventy seven television

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Speaker 5: show because it's based around a talk show from that era.

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Speaker 5: Everything Happens. It's sort of semi found footage show from

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Speaker 5: a Letterman style talkback show, a late night show which

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Speaker 5: they bring a kid that's possessed on it all goes crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's great, so well done. That is after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock we're going to be talking about gap years.

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Speaker 3: What is the benefit of a gap year? Have you

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Speaker 3: done it? Are your children about to do it? Your

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so a lot of kids finishing up your thirteen's

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Speaker 5: My oldest son finished school, which made me feel amazing.

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Speaker 5: when you're holding it, when you're holding them in your hand,

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Speaker 5: If he's saying this, when their butts, they can hold

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Speaker 6: Before you start.

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Speaker 5: Running up a debt and wasting a year of life

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Speaker 3: That teaches you a lot of stuff. And there's been

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Speaker 3: doing a gap year in the US and the UK.

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Speaker 3: So that's going to be a good chat after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: But right now we want to talk about intervening incidences.

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Speaker 3: This is on the back of Auckland Transport data which

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Speaker 5: It is the most revolting behavior if you are at

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Speaker 8: What are you?

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Speaker 6: What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: That's crazy town, isn't it that you're getting pretty lowly?

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Speaker 5: You're getting pretty low on the scale of things that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we know it is being pretty scary on

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Speaker 3: What happened. What happened.

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Speaker 6: A kid was builling another kid.

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Speaker 5: I waited till we were on Filton Road and we

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Speaker 3: He used the gravity to your advantage.

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Speaker 5: I did, and then wailed on him. But that's a

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Speaker 5: very different situation. It's terrifying out there, and you'd love

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Speaker 5: you don't know how much you're going to escalate the situation.

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Speaker 5: So do you intervene? How do you deal with these

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Speaker 3: But it feels more danger us out there, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm in the same campus you. I'd like to

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Speaker 3: have a weapon on them? If it's a group of them,

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Speaker 5: Should you intervene? Have you intervened? I'll tell you one

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you very shortly about a incident that happened

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Speaker 3: I didn't intervene as quickly as I should have. But

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Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: As Matt said, nine two nine two is the text number.

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Speaker 3: Have you been in a situation where you wanted to

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you, what was a situation going on?

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Speaker 3: Did other people come around to help you? Love to

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Speaker 3: hear from you. It is third teen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons You

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Speaker 3: Be sixteen past one.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: A lot more.

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Speaker 5: Assaults and bad behavior on public transport. There were fights

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Speaker 5: at the Travis Scott concert last night. There's trouble at kids'

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Speaker 5: sports greens. Should you intervene? How do you intervene? Have

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Speaker 5: you intervened? Is it up to citizens to police these

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Speaker 5: kind of situations? Welcome to the show, Mary Anne, How

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Speaker 5: are you. You've got a story from subway.

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Speaker 6: In New York?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 14: So I was over there. It's a few years ago. Now,

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Speaker 14: I'm in my early sixties, so I was still reason

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Speaker 11: At this point.

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Speaker 14: I saw this guy and he had his girlfriend up

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Speaker 15: He had one hand around in nick and he.

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Speaker 14: Was just quietly throttling her. Now, I have spent a

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Speaker 14: long time working as a criminal lawyer, and in fact,

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Speaker 14: now there's a separate offense of strangulation of a man

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Speaker 14: I can tell you it's an incredibly dangerous sign. So anyway,

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Speaker 14: I didn't physically and then but I yelled out very

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Speaker 6: You, Mary Anne.

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Speaker 5: Do you think you were the only person that had

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not answering you because you've already done

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Speaker 3: Did you think about if I say something here, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Marian, you're a good person.

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Speaker 14: I didn't even think about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're a good person, very brave.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't get involved. Police are more likely to charge

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if that's the case in

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I guess that's what bravery is, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, It is twenty past one. You're listening to Matt

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Speaker 17: It's an alarming, if not shocking figures around our public

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Speaker 18: As it's probably a reflection of society unfortunately. Or in

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Speaker 18: they want to draw. That's an increasing their percentage of

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You it's twenty three past one, and

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Speaker 3: that's what we're talking about right now, the problems on

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Speaker 6: Should you step in?

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Speaker 3: Should you step in? Steve? What do you reckon?

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Speaker 12: Guys? Yeah, this one's quite close to home because I

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Speaker 12: past and went, all, this just doesn't look right. I

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Speaker 12: I just watched and watched the situation. Then they saw me,

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Speaker 12: and I just stood there. I just kept staring at them.

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Speaker 12: And he goes, oh, I've just got beef with them.

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Speaker 12: So I turned out to mate, I'm the last person

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Speaker 12: and they ran off right, and anyway, I go back.

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Speaker 12: My wife's a bit scared and no way back in.

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Speaker 12: And then as I'm walking out the door, another guy

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Speaker 12: like that. He had caught up with the boys as

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Speaker 12: that just doesn't look like a right scene to me. Right,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Stevie, you're you say you're a big guy,

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Speaker 12: I would, But it's still done right. They could be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did it go through your head, Steve, It's interesting

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Speaker 12: We'll tell you what. She's a scary woman. I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: So were you good men, Steve that we need to

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Speaker 3: What are you doing? What are you doing today' Steve?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to jump on some buses? Maame meya?

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Speaker 3: Wayne Brown will be happy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well if he wants to reduce my.

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Speaker 5: How are you good?

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Speaker 21: So I intervened and it went the other bloody away.

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Speaker 21: and ran outside, get out and confront. That's going to

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Speaker 21: And he goes, oh, you're a tough guy with a

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Speaker 21: and I didn't see that he had two mates in

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Speaker 5: Oh, gosh, wow you and what you know? Were you

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Speaker 21: Yeah, skinheads took off because they were in trouble. Yep,

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Speaker 21: was being beat up. They got me into my wife

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Speaker 21: and then they took off. Wow, And yeah, I got

443
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Speaker 21: carted off to hospital. Cops came and blah blah blah.

444
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Speaker 21: Cops went very interested.

445
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Speaker 5: Well that's that's really really horrible. And you know, boy, boy,

446
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Speaker 5: what a what a full on situation. I mean, you

447
00:19:02,773 --> 00:19:05,413
Speaker 5: saved the day by the sounds of things because the

448
00:19:05,413 --> 00:19:08,133
Speaker 5: skinheads went off, but you definitely didn't save yourself.

449
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Speaker 21: No, And I ended up with a long term brain injury,

450
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Speaker 21: not a real serious one. That it affected the way

451
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Speaker 21: I run my business.

452
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Speaker 3: So going going sorry to you, going forward if you

453
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Speaker 3: had your time again and so sorry what happened to you?

454
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Speaker 3: You know, it's clearly not right, and I hope those

455
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Speaker 3: scumbags were caught and the book was thrown at them.

456
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Speaker 3: But looking back, would you intervene again? Well, clearly not.

457
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Speaker 3: But I suppose that's the point that's too dangerous.

458
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Speaker 21: I would do it differently. I would bring the police

459
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Speaker 21: and go out and yell at them from the two

460
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Speaker 21: of the distance away. But yes, I would definitely intervene,

461
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Speaker 21: because what happens if we don't y.

462
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's the thing.

463
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Speaker 5: So so you think if you went back, it was

464
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Speaker 5: the going out with the baseball bat that on the.

465
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Speaker 21: Ground that was there. I actually I shouldn't have taken

466
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Speaker 21: a weapon with me. I didn't even think about it.

467
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but I mean yeah, I mean you shouldn't,

468
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Speaker 5: should have, could have would What you did was a

469
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Speaker 5: brave and honorable thing that turned on you, and so

470
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Speaker 5: you don't need to question what you did there. But

471
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Speaker 5: and I know they says that that's the thing.

472
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Speaker 6: I mean, sorry you said you go toime.

473
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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, that's what the police

474
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Speaker 3: would say is that you don't use a weapon, because

475
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Speaker 3: more times than not they take it off you the

476
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Speaker 3: offender and use it against you. But that wouldn't stop

477
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Speaker 3: me from taking a weapon in those situations. It just wouldn't.

478
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Speaker 3: You've got to have something to try and back yourself up.

479
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Speaker 3: But I mean, it's terrible what happened to you, Hugh.

480
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Speaker 3: And you're right, you know, going going. If you had

481
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Speaker 3: your time again, you'd ring the cops. But when you're

482
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Speaker 3: in that scenario there, yeah, yeah, I mean there's a

483
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Speaker 3: text that's come through for you, Hue. It says, Hue, mates,

484
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Speaker 3: there aren't many people like you left. You're a damn

485
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Speaker 3: good human. Sorry to hear what happened to you, Bud.

486
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Speaker 11: That's cool.

487
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Speaker 6: Well, thanks for sharing its story, Hugh.

488
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Speaker 5: And I hope your health issues are okay after doing that.

489
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the thing that everyone's fearful of, isn't it.

490
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Speaker 5: If they do intervene, then they become the victim.

491
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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you got a you got a weapon by

492
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Speaker 3: your bet? I should rephrase that, have you got something

493
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Speaker 3: by your bed that you can use if someone breaks

494
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Speaker 3: into your house?

495
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Speaker 6: I'm juvenile?

496
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Speaker 5: No, No, I don't but I do have a baseball

497
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Speaker 5: bat by the door and a cricket bat by the

498
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Speaker 5: other door. I do, and I've never used them, but

499
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Speaker 5: I do have them there because I've never had to

500
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Speaker 5: use them. But for some reason, i just think that

501
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Speaker 5: maybe I might have to use them. I've got, you know,

502
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Speaker 5: kids upstairs, and I've thought about the situation where someone's

503
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Speaker 5: just trying to get in and you have to have

504
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Speaker 5: to do something. I mean, I've seen defense videos before

505
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Speaker 5: where they say you should have something a long stick.

506
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Speaker 5: This is what they say they do if someone comes

507
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Speaker 5: into your house. It's a bit different when you're outside,

508
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Speaker 5: but that you should have a long stick or whatever

509
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Speaker 5: it is, but it should have a handle that you

510
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Speaker 5: hold on to it so it's around your hand or

511
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Speaker 5: so it can't be pulled off you and you just

512
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Speaker 5: y'll get out, get out, get out, get out, get out,

513
00:22:02,733 --> 00:22:04,373
Speaker 5: get out, get out, and give them an opportunity to

514
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Speaker 5: get out. But I mean that's a different situation when

515
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Speaker 5: they're on the on the street.

516
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Speaker 12: Yeah.

517
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Oh.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call love to hear from you of you have been

521
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Speaker 3: in a situation where you have intervened and it either

522
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Speaker 3: worked out or like poor old you didn't work out

523
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Speaker 3: so well, or indeed that you decided to call the

524
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Speaker 3: police and they showed up and did what they needed

525
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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 5: We've got a text here from Mark Cure a team

527
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Speaker 5: as a former police officer self defense instructor, calling the

528
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Speaker 5: police should be the first priority. If you fear a

529
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Speaker 5: grievous bodily harm or death and you're a confident in

530
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Speaker 5: handling the scenario, snapper step in. You will only be

531
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Speaker 5: charged if you use excessive force. Use force. Using force

532
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Speaker 5: should be the last resource resort. But those scenarios can

533
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Speaker 5: go so bad, so quick. That's from Mark. Thank good

534
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Speaker 5: for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good text. It is twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 8: US talks.

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Speaker 22: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

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Speaker 22: with a blue bubble. The Mental Health Foundation says Mike

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Speaker 22: King's heart is in the right place, but he is

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Speaker 22: wrong to say alcohol could be a solution to mental health.

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Speaker 22: It says people sell medicate by drinking, but our society

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Speaker 22: vehicle crash in Bay of Plentius or Fata this morning

544
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Speaker 22: on Vaughan Road. Hawk's Bay Police are investigating a flurry

545
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Speaker 22: of incidents in the past twenty four hours. Shots were

546
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Speaker 22: fired at three houses in Flaxmire and Palmettea, and the

547
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Speaker 22: fight broke out in a hurri between two groups armed

548
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Speaker 22: with baseball bats and other weapons. Consumer and Zed's asking

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Ayleen. It's twenty four to two.

560
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're talking about intervening in incidence.

561
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Speaker 5: There's a whole heap of concerning incidents happening on public

562
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Speaker 5: transport in Auckland, and you know you only have to

563
00:24:26,653 --> 00:24:29,293
Speaker 5: read the news any day to see terrible things happening around.

564
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Speaker 5: But should you jump in and intervene? I've got a

565
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Speaker 5: question for you. Do you think people are more likely

566
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Speaker 5: to intervene if there's a lot of people around, or

567
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Speaker 5: if there's not very many people around, or if you're

568
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Speaker 5: the only person around? Leading question, Well, straight off the bed,

569
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Speaker 5: I'd say if there's a lot of people around, I

570
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Speaker 5: feel like this is a truck question.

571
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Speaker 3: Probably. I think if there's other people around, then you

572
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Speaker 3: feel a bit more confident to jump in to know

573
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Speaker 3: if it goes sideways, at least you've got Becker.

574
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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 5: Oddly, it's called the bystander effect. Studies have found in

576
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Speaker 5: the case of emergency or violent act, when people believe

577
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Speaker 5: there are other people around, that are less likely to

578
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Speaker 5: help a victim because they believe someone else will take

579
00:25:08,973 --> 00:25:13,373
Speaker 5: responsibility or they have plausible deniability for not helping. People

580
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Speaker 5: will also fail to take responsibility for the situation, depending

581
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Speaker 5: on the context, So start is fine. If you're a

582
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Speaker 5: person on your own or with just a couple of people,

583
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Speaker 5: you're more likely to intervene than if you're in a crowd. Interesting,

584
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Speaker 5: isn't it?

585
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Speaker 3: That's very interesting? Greg get a mate.

586
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Speaker 23: You know, boys, what I like to think we would intervene.

587
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Speaker 23: It was probably twenty years ago, the Prendice boil that

588
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Speaker 23: I had just now. One of my really good friends

589
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Speaker 23: he was telling me don't and with the intent of

590
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Speaker 23: a mess and fhetamine. His uncle was equipped to intervene,

591
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Speaker 23: and he tried intervene and got himself killed. Yeah, and

592
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Speaker 23: he was equipped to do it.

593
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Speaker 5: Right, Greg, what do you mean by what specifically do

594
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Speaker 5: you mean by equipped to do it?

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Speaker 23: It was a policeman intervene, right, and he still got

596
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Speaker 23: himself killed, right.

597
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Speaker 24: Yeah.

598
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Speaker 23: So Morelton's story is if you suspect someone's on mess in,

599
00:26:06,373 --> 00:26:10,213
Speaker 23: don a divine because they're just bullet present ten feet

600
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Speaker 23: tall and it's very difficult, you know. And so I

601
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Speaker 23: would have thought of that stage when I was a

602
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Speaker 23: lot younger. I would definitely intervened, but not probably not

603
00:26:18,453 --> 00:26:22,733
Speaker 23: so much now, unfortunately, depending on the situation obviously. And

604
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Speaker 23: then you're talking about things at home. I've got a

605
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Speaker 23: candlelabra believe it or not, with four fairly large and

606
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Speaker 23: it's quite heavy, and all I do is keep it

607
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Speaker 23: by the bed with some candles that look then and

608
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Speaker 23: you put it in front of you, and it's like

609
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Speaker 23: a shield because it sticks out about the foot and

610
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Speaker 23: it's very heavy, and I think someone's coming at you

611
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Speaker 23: with the knife. It's got four things out of it.

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Speaker 23: It's actually would be quite a good defensive weapon. And

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Speaker 23: if you're not allow you're not allowed to arm yourself.

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Speaker 23: You know, you're allowed baseball, you get the ones to

615
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Speaker 23: get in trouble. But by having the bent candles sitting

616
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Speaker 23: by the bed, I figure, you know, I can say

617
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Speaker 23: I was just having a nice romantic night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, smart, very smart.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean I've seen a few people are methan

620
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Speaker 5: fi to mean fire up and it is terrifying. It's

621
00:27:07,573 --> 00:27:10,013
Speaker 5: like dealing it's not like it's like dealing with the zombie,

622
00:27:11,013 --> 00:27:14,173
Speaker 5: the rage and the terror that they bring to a situation.

623
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Speaker 5: I actually saw on a bus at one point, and

624
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Speaker 5: this I don't know for sure he was messed up,

625
00:27:19,653 --> 00:27:21,533
Speaker 5: but I can that's the only explanation that I can have.

626
00:27:22,333 --> 00:27:24,253
Speaker 5: Just banging on the bus. I wasn't on the bus,

627
00:27:24,293 --> 00:27:25,053
Speaker 5: but banging.

628
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Speaker 6: On the bus. Tried to get in.

629
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Speaker 5: The bus driver shut the doors on him, and he

630
00:27:27,773 --> 00:27:29,133
Speaker 5: was just banging on the bus and the bus.

631
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Speaker 6: Driver drove off.

632
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Speaker 5: This was in Grayland and Auckland and he's still banging

633
00:27:32,133 --> 00:27:34,093
Speaker 5: on the bus and the bus driver hit traffic and

634
00:27:34,133 --> 00:27:38,253
Speaker 5: could get away. It was like a zombie attack. And

635
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Speaker 5: I mean that's very very you certainly can't reason with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much, Greg. But they're not on

637
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Speaker 3: their right mind, though, are they? And I think to

638
00:27:45,693 --> 00:27:49,093
Speaker 3: Greg's point, whether he would step in now, probably not

639
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Speaker 3: when he was a younger man. And I think part

640
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Speaker 3: of his point there is it does feel more dangerous.

641
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Speaker 3: People are more unpredictable because you don't know what sort

642
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Speaker 3: of drugs they are on, what that carrying. Twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we had that problem, not to the

644
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Speaker 3: same level.

645
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Speaker 6: But I reckon as well.

646
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Speaker 5: We all think that we all imagine that where Bruce

647
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Speaker 5: Willison die hard and we could step in, Yeah, and

648
00:28:10,973 --> 00:28:13,253
Speaker 5: we kind of imagine in our minds something more than

649
00:28:13,253 --> 00:28:17,253
Speaker 5: we are. And well, I mean, as Mark said, you know,

650
00:28:17,333 --> 00:28:19,292
Speaker 5: the first thing you got to do is called the police. Yeah,

651
00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:23,053
Speaker 5: you know, immediately, and then I don't know, scream from

652
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Speaker 5: our way back. It's tough. It's like one of those

653
00:28:25,533 --> 00:28:27,093
Speaker 5: things that's a complete gray area.

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Speaker 6: Yep, there's no right or wrong answer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty love

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Speaker 3: to hear from you on this one. It is twenty

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four US Talk said, be afternoon, Ken.

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Speaker 19: Goodday guys. I heard you're talking about protecting yourself if

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Speaker 19: your head an home invader. The best suggestion I've heard

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Speaker 19: is a wood saw, just an ordinary handsaw with the

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Speaker 19: wooden handle on the end of it, plus the candle

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Speaker 19: on the end of it. You could say, I'm doing

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Speaker 19: some home renovations and this was just the first thing

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Speaker 19: I grabbed to protect myself. Imagine someone kind of grabbed

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Speaker 19: that off you if they broke into your home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't go well.

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Speaker 5: Because it's got it's got a strong handle that you

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Speaker 5: can that you can hold on to, and it's also

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Speaker 5: got a horrible serrated edge, and.

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Speaker 19: It's not a defensive weapon, ye anything, As you've been

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Speaker 19: doing some home renovations and that's what your head's handy. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: Fortunately I've never had to use it, and whether I

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Speaker 19: ever would, who knows.

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Speaker 25: Well.

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Speaker 5: What I've heard, Ken, is that the best thing you

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Speaker 5: can do if someone comes into your house is tell

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Speaker 5: them what to do, because often they've been surprised that

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Speaker 5: there's someone in there, or they are in a bad state.

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Speaker 6: The drunk, or they're on whatever.

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Speaker 5: So saying get out, get out, get out, get out

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Speaker 5: the door, get out the door, get out the door,

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Speaker 5: just yelling them and giving them an option to get out,

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Speaker 5: because they're not thinking very clever, so you might just

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Speaker 5: get into the head and they might run out the door.

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Speaker 5: Soa a wave a handsaw at them and get them

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Speaker 5: out of there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good idea.

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Speaker 24: Though.

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Speaker 3: A dog also works really well, even if in My

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Speaker 3: dog Pepper, beautiful dog. She's not a guard dog, but

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Speaker 3: she goes absolutely ballistic and she sounds mean. She's not

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Speaker 3: a mean dog. If they ever got close to it,

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Speaker 3: she'd run away and leave us for dead. But in

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Speaker 3: the moment someone breaks in or get us into the house,

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Speaker 3: she doesn't know how she goes crazy.

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Speaker 5: Well, there was an incident on my street and I

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Speaker 5: went out with to have a lock what was going on,

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Speaker 5: to try and be a good Samaritan and see what happened.

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Speaker 5: And I went out and I went down the driveway

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Speaker 5: and I looked out, and then I looked back. My

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Speaker 5: dog Colin, who's a mini snail as a jack Russell cross,

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Speaker 5: a little snack. He was standing in the door with

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Speaker 5: his head around, peering around the corner at me like

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Speaker 5: a coward.

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Speaker 3: Edge your back.

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Speaker 5: No, it was zero backup. He was more scared than

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Speaker 5: I was. Zero backup from Colin.

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Speaker 3: Liam, how are you doing all right?

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Speaker 26: Thinks?

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Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on this one?

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Speaker 27: I was just saying, like, well, you were saying, how

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Speaker 27: it's sometimes you know, better to do nothing and just

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Speaker 27: call the police. But and many times, you know, when

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Speaker 27: you really need the it takes a really long time

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Speaker 27: to get there, and the amount of time it's going

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Speaker 27: to take for them to get there, if something's going on,

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Speaker 27: it's going to happen. Yeah, And so yeah, just anything

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Speaker 27: like if you've got a mag light or any sort

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Speaker 27: of torch, especially if you're in the dark, you've got

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Speaker 27: a very good way to blind them, startle them, and

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Speaker 27: then like you're saying, commence them to get out of there,

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Speaker 27: but you know you also have the that's all always

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Speaker 27: a very good viable option, any sort of heavy torch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Liam, even if the police are going to take

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Speaker 5: a while to get there, though, I guess before you

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Speaker 5: do anything at all, if you can ring the police

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Speaker 5: so the call has been put through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I think you know, I thank you

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Speaker 3: very much for your phone call, Liam, And I know

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Speaker 3: people have had their frustrations with the cops in the past,

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Speaker 3: but I think the person on the other line at

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Speaker 3: the call center, when they can understand the gravity of

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Speaker 3: the situation that you're facing and you tell them you

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Speaker 3: stay with them the whole time or the police are coming,

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Speaker 3: then that starts to escalate it up. And if your

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Speaker 3: life is in danger, they will get there. Don't worry

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you're on the phone to the police

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Speaker 5: at the same time saying that I'm on the phone

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Speaker 5: to the police, that's something. And look, the police may

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Speaker 5: take whatever time they take to get there, but it's

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Speaker 5: a lot sooner from when you call. So if you

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Speaker 5: call sooner, the police will be there sooner.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. It is thirteen minutes to two. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler. Good afternoon to.

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Speaker 1: You, Mattiat Tyler Adams seeking your calls on eight Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons.

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Speaker 8: News doorgs be news?

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Speaker 3: Doorgs? They'd be mark very good to chat to you

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Speaker 3: because you're a former police officer, is that right?

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Speaker 28: Yes, with the police from two thousand and seven to

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Speaker 28: twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Great, And so what should people do if they see

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Speaker 3: something happening on the street that is untoward or they

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Speaker 3: think that somebody might be in danger? What should they

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Speaker 3: do in that scenario?

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Speaker 28: So again, as you perst for your callers, they've all

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Speaker 28: called in and each scenario even though that has been

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Speaker 28: quite different, and you know it's time place circumstances. You

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Speaker 28: had your caller who was stuck on the subway train.

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Speaker 28: You know, if it turns bad, you've.

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Speaker 12: Got not to go.

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Speaker 28: You know, you're locked in the tube. If you're outside

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Speaker 28: of your house, you can retreat to the security of

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Speaker 28: your home. So it depends where you are and what

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Speaker 28: level of confidence you have in dealing with an aggressive person.

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Speaker 28: My advice is, if you're going to make that decision

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Speaker 28: to step in, do it from a distance. That first engagement,

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Speaker 28: they will kind of respond either aggressively or walk away.

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Speaker 28: But you don't want to be standing next to them

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Speaker 28: when you engage. Try and use distance. As your friend

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Speaker 28: always called police. You know, if it's that bad that

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Speaker 28: you need to step in. I would inform police you're

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Speaker 28: going to be stepping in that there is a possibility

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Speaker 28: of a violent situation that's going to happen. Rather have

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Speaker 28: like you've said before, rather have police on their way.

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Speaker 28: Then it becomes really bad and now you're trying to

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Speaker 28: defend yourself and call police. So is it fear a

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Speaker 28: little things? All the smartphones now have a built in

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Speaker 28: so fetcher Apple use them so you can go into

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Speaker 28: Apple settings and set yours calls up so you don't

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Speaker 28: have to unlock your phone and automatically goes through to

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Speaker 28: police and it will show your location.

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Speaker 3: That's great advice.

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Speaker 5: That's a really good thing for everyone to set up

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Speaker 5: on their phone so they're just ready to go so

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Speaker 5: they're not fumbling around trying to unlock their phone and

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Speaker 5: tend it on. When you say that you step in

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Speaker 5: from a distance, mark, what would you suggest is the

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Speaker 5: first kind of things that you start selling saying or

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Speaker 5: yelling from a distance, so.

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Speaker 28: Distance a noise is your friends. You know, likes to

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Speaker 28: teach self affairs classes. We have a lot of females

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Speaker 28: and people walk go quiet. A lot of people can

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Speaker 28: go fly when they're going to shock. It's a natural defense.

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Speaker 28: But make noise. You never know who's nearby. You never

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Speaker 28: know if there's if your early morning jogger or whatever

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Speaker 28: out by yourself. Make noise. You don't know who's going

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Speaker 28: to hear you. So make noise, bring attention to that person,

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Speaker 28: and it helps bring other people's attention who may not

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Speaker 28: be aware of what's happening to you and what's happening

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Speaker 28: near there.

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Speaker 5: So do you describe what's going on? Do you say,

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Speaker 5: I'm calling the police? Do you yell them, yell directions

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Speaker 5: at them?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 28: I would just be yelling how I'm on the phone

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Speaker 28: the police. Have your phone in your hand and be

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Speaker 28: forming it, have it extra Yes, I'm on the phone

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Speaker 28: right now.

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Speaker 25: Police.

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Speaker 28: They're on their way, they're coming on their way and

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Speaker 28: just yelling. Other people say, hey, look what that person's doing.

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Speaker 28: What of that person's doing. But again this is right

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Speaker 28: because they turned and they want to charge at you.

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Speaker 28: Make sure you know where you're going to go. You

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Speaker 28: know if your vehicle's near by, and make sure you

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Speaker 28: can get into your vehicle or going into a store

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Speaker 28: somewhere where you can just have some sort of barrier

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Speaker 28: of delay or safety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant stuff. Great advice. Why did you leave the

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Speaker 3: force just quickly, Marke?

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Speaker 28: I went into the private sector. Yeah, I was close protection.

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Speaker 28: We're bringing your government to the weks of private sector.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, thank you so much for your expertise, Mark, brilliant,

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Speaker 5: brilliant way to finish that discussion.

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Speaker 3: It is seven minutes to two.

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Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 5: We'll change tack here a little bit. It is Halloween today.

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Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of Halloween's so, and after after

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Speaker 5: three we're going to be talking about scary movies and

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Speaker 5: how people celebrate Halloween and how people feel about Halloween.

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Speaker 5: I love it, and so I have concocted the official

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Speaker 5: Matt and Tyler Afternoons on ZB top five Halloween songs,

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Speaker 5: Yes You of all Time and at number five, so

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Speaker 5: called Killers from nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 6: Talking here, it's Psycho Killer. What a tune?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very goods a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Speaking at number four to Michael Jackson, thriller, although I

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Speaker 5: think he meant to sing horror, not thriller. I think

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Speaker 5: you've got the word wrong there. It's not really he's

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Speaker 5: not really describing a thriller. He's just decribbing a Horror

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Speaker 5: with the zombies. Great music video, fantastic music video. Add

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Speaker 5: number three, D.

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Speaker 6: Add number three.

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Speaker 4: There we go.

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Speaker 5: A bit of mixing problems there for the DJ number

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Speaker 5: three Ghost Basters Ray Packard Junior No. Ninety four from

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Speaker 5: the movie When I was a kid, the song used

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Speaker 5: to scare me. Yeah, yeah, if it came on a

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Speaker 5: night in my room by myself, I'd get quite scared.

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Speaker 3: The movie is not that scary as.

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Speaker 6: In the library it's scary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay. At number two from ninety four Zombie

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Speaker 5: by the Cranberries terrifying zombies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody likes sombies. Everyone loves the Cranberries.

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Speaker 5: That and what will number one be? From nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 5: Brian Devon Wals of London, Good List, goodlest there are

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Speaker 5: your top five, your official top five Halloween.

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Speaker 3: That is a great song, isn't it Wherees of London?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, was that before.

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Speaker 3: Sweet Home Alabama? The other way around? Did they kind

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Speaker 3: of cross at the same time or.

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Speaker 5: It's a very common chord progression.

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Speaker 6: They're very very similar songs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, very good And thank you for all your

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Speaker 3: phone calls and text on intervention. After two o'clock, we

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Speaker 3: are going to talk about gap years. This is a

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Speaker 3: growing trend around the world US, UK and here in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Doll children once they leave school to go

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Speaker 3: on a gap year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot of parents out there will be

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Speaker 5: in my situation. Year thirteen is ending this week. They've

879
00:38:56,533 --> 00:38:58,973
Speaker 5: got their exams to do. But my son had his

880
00:38:59,093 --> 00:39:02,413
Speaker 5: last day of school ever on Tuesday and now he's

881
00:39:02,413 --> 00:39:04,613
Speaker 5: heading off into the world. So what do they do?

882
00:39:04,693 --> 00:39:07,133
Speaker 5: Go to tertiary education? But what if they haven't got

883
00:39:07,173 --> 00:39:11,653
Speaker 5: anything decided? They're just doing a pointless, pointless course that'll

884
00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:12,573
Speaker 5: cost them a lot of money.

885
00:39:13,213 --> 00:39:14,172
Speaker 6: Do they take a gap year?

886
00:39:14,253 --> 00:39:15,933
Speaker 3: Are you backing him to take a gap year? I

887
00:39:15,973 --> 00:39:17,893
Speaker 3: mean clearly you're saying, Charlie, whatever you want to do,

888
00:39:17,973 --> 00:39:21,133
Speaker 3: you do. But are you excited that he's eyeing up

889
00:39:21,173 --> 00:39:24,693
Speaker 3: doing a gap year rather than going to TERUSI I think.

890
00:39:24,333 --> 00:39:26,413
Speaker 6: A gap year is a good idea.

891
00:39:26,693 --> 00:39:28,373
Speaker 5: I think it's quite good as long as you do

892
00:39:28,453 --> 00:39:30,693
Speaker 5: something in the gap year. You can't do nothing. You

893
00:39:30,733 --> 00:39:32,652
Speaker 5: can't just sit around on the couch and play video games.

894
00:39:32,653 --> 00:39:34,172
Speaker 6: You've got to get a job. See what it's like

895
00:39:34,213 --> 00:39:34,733
Speaker 6: to work.

896
00:39:34,573 --> 00:39:37,172
Speaker 5: Full time in a minimum wage is a really good

897
00:39:37,173 --> 00:39:40,253
Speaker 5: way to focus your attention in life.

898
00:39:40,653 --> 00:39:42,493
Speaker 6: But I think, yeah, I think a gap year is

899
00:39:42,493 --> 00:39:42,853
Speaker 6: a good thing.

900
00:39:42,853 --> 00:39:45,453
Speaker 5: You've had so many years of school, thirteen years of

901
00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:47,732
Speaker 5: being part of an institution in school, it's not bad

902
00:39:47,773 --> 00:39:50,893
Speaker 5: to just get a little taste of the real world.

903
00:39:51,053 --> 00:39:52,853
Speaker 5: I mean different for different kids, but for some, I

904
00:39:52,893 --> 00:39:53,652
Speaker 5: think it's a great one.

905
00:39:53,773 --> 00:39:56,252
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

906
00:39:56,293 --> 00:39:58,293
Speaker 3: to call. You can also tax through on nine to

907
00:39:58,653 --> 00:40:01,533
Speaker 3: nine to two. If you're a parent, you're encouraging your

908
00:40:01,613 --> 00:40:03,293
Speaker 3: child to take a gap year. Do you feel a

909
00:40:03,373 --> 00:40:05,893
Speaker 3: bit concerned about it? Did you take a gap year?

910
00:40:06,053 --> 00:40:08,732
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. It is three minutes to do.

911
00:40:09,013 --> 00:40:10,173
Speaker 3: Good afternoon.

912
00:40:11,373 --> 00:40:15,493
Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

913
00:40:15,853 --> 00:40:19,373
Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Zebby.

914
00:40:20,373 --> 00:40:23,413
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. Very good to have your company.

915
00:40:23,493 --> 00:40:25,413
Speaker 3: As always, you're listening to matt and Tyler with you

916
00:40:25,493 --> 00:40:28,173
Speaker 3: until four p m. Gap years.

917
00:40:28,493 --> 00:40:30,613
Speaker 5: Yeah, So a lot of parents will be in my

918
00:40:30,653 --> 00:40:32,453
Speaker 5: position today, and a lot of parents have been in

919
00:40:32,493 --> 00:40:33,893
Speaker 5: the past, and a lot of parents will be there

920
00:40:33,893 --> 00:40:36,333
Speaker 5: in the future. And we've all been in this position.

921
00:40:38,373 --> 00:40:41,213
Speaker 5: Finishing year thirteen or seventh form as well as in

922
00:40:41,253 --> 00:40:45,252
Speaker 5: my time. Yep, yeah, my son finished on Tuesday. He's

923
00:40:45,293 --> 00:40:46,773
Speaker 5: not sure what he wants to do in terms of

924
00:40:46,813 --> 00:40:50,053
Speaker 5: his tertiary education, so he's chosen to take a gap year.

925
00:40:50,053 --> 00:40:53,053
Speaker 5: And I support him, although I wouldn't support him if

926
00:40:53,613 --> 00:40:56,333
Speaker 5: he sat around and did absolutely nothing for a year

927
00:40:56,333 --> 00:41:00,253
Speaker 5: and just played video games. But I think there's there's

928
00:41:00,293 --> 00:41:02,973
Speaker 5: something really, really really good and just getting a sniff

929
00:41:03,013 --> 00:41:04,053
Speaker 5: of what the real world's like.

930
00:41:04,413 --> 00:41:06,373
Speaker 3: Does he know what he wants to do for the

931
00:41:06,413 --> 00:41:07,973
Speaker 3: gap year at this stage.

932
00:41:07,853 --> 00:41:09,693
Speaker 5: I think he's he wants to get a job. He

933
00:41:09,733 --> 00:41:11,253
Speaker 5: wants to get a job. And I've got a nephew

934
00:41:11,253 --> 00:41:14,893
Speaker 5: that went worked in a supermarket for a year for

935
00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:17,133
Speaker 5: his gap year, and he worked in the fruit and

936
00:41:17,133 --> 00:41:18,733
Speaker 5: prodiscce the area. He thought it was good, he met some

937
00:41:18,773 --> 00:41:23,013
Speaker 5: good people, but it really really really motivated him to

938
00:41:23,253 --> 00:41:25,373
Speaker 5: go off and get the degree he eventually got.

939
00:41:25,533 --> 00:41:26,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you do it?

940
00:41:26,413 --> 00:41:27,333
Speaker 8: Keep you? No?

941
00:41:28,413 --> 00:41:30,453
Speaker 6: Stupidly, I left universe.

942
00:41:30,533 --> 00:41:32,933
Speaker 5: I left high school, went straight to university and did

943
00:41:33,373 --> 00:41:36,053
Speaker 5: a degree that I've never used of.

944
00:41:36,093 --> 00:41:36,853
Speaker 3: What was the degree?

945
00:41:37,093 --> 00:41:39,413
Speaker 6: I did a degree in anthropology.

946
00:41:38,853 --> 00:41:42,573
Speaker 5: And philosophy, Oh and smart, Yeah, but it was I

947
00:41:42,613 --> 00:41:44,853
Speaker 5: didn't even unwrap it. I didn't turn up to the graduation.

948
00:41:44,973 --> 00:41:46,933
Speaker 5: I didn't even up wrap it until last year, where

949
00:41:46,973 --> 00:41:49,973
Speaker 5: I unwrapped it and put it in a frame and

950
00:41:49,973 --> 00:41:51,933
Speaker 5: put it on the wall as a joke, like making

951
00:41:51,973 --> 00:41:53,813
Speaker 5: the din in my house look like it was a clinic.

952
00:41:53,893 --> 00:41:57,253
Speaker 5: Because you know, you can't make money out of anthropology. Well,

953
00:41:57,293 --> 00:41:59,333
Speaker 5: some people can, but basically it has to be in

954
00:42:00,453 --> 00:42:02,813
Speaker 5: a life, in an education. If you're going to do that,

955
00:42:03,053 --> 00:42:05,773
Speaker 5: you're quite a using it human behavior and then philosophy.

956
00:42:05,893 --> 00:42:08,253
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, use that on a regular basis, don't you.

957
00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:11,053
Speaker 6: Yeah, But I mean, was it worth the student alone?

958
00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:14,373
Speaker 3: I had to probably not. I mean I had a

959
00:42:14,373 --> 00:42:17,693
Speaker 3: lot of friends who went straight from school to university,

960
00:42:17,813 --> 00:42:19,692
Speaker 3: didn't know what they wanted to do, so just did

961
00:42:19,693 --> 00:42:21,692
Speaker 3: a b comb. That was kind of what you did

962
00:42:21,693 --> 00:42:23,093
Speaker 3: if you didn't know what you're going to do. My

963
00:42:23,133 --> 00:42:25,853
Speaker 3: older brother as well, actually did a b comb. Never

964
00:42:26,093 --> 00:42:26,493
Speaker 3: used it.

965
00:42:26,613 --> 00:42:28,493
Speaker 5: No, there are people that I know people that had

966
00:42:28,493 --> 00:42:30,133
Speaker 5: did a b comb and then didn't use it, and

967
00:42:30,173 --> 00:42:32,053
Speaker 5: then it's helped them get into the business world many

968
00:42:32,093 --> 00:42:34,933
Speaker 5: years later when their chosen career that they went for

969
00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:35,533
Speaker 5: fell through.

970
00:42:35,733 --> 00:42:39,333
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I don't know. I don't go running down

971
00:42:39,373 --> 00:42:40,653
Speaker 6: the becomb. It's a great degree.

972
00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:44,053
Speaker 3: Hey I'm not running it down, but for my friends

973
00:42:44,093 --> 00:42:46,013
Speaker 3: and I love them to love them to death. But

974
00:42:46,413 --> 00:42:49,533
Speaker 3: they never really got into you're.

975
00:42:48,653 --> 00:42:50,413
Speaker 5: Saying, if you haven't decided what you're going to do

976
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:53,172
Speaker 5: in life, you just just do a.

977
00:42:53,093 --> 00:42:56,053
Speaker 3: B com No, no, no, go go do a gap yere,

978
00:42:56,173 --> 00:42:58,013
Speaker 3: don't just don't just sign up to a becomb. I

979
00:42:58,013 --> 00:43:00,093
Speaker 3: think they signed up to becom because it was the

980
00:43:00,133 --> 00:43:03,093
Speaker 3: easiest paper to do at the time. And hey, don't

981
00:43:03,093 --> 00:43:04,933
Speaker 3: get me wrong, they love the Scarfee days that was

982
00:43:04,933 --> 00:43:08,253
Speaker 3: down in the University of a Tago. They absolutely adored

983
00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:08,813
Speaker 3: that year.

984
00:43:09,333 --> 00:43:12,212
Speaker 5: But then a students know how to party. That's fine,

985
00:43:12,533 --> 00:43:14,373
Speaker 5: yea being a person that we into a targer university

986
00:43:14,373 --> 00:43:14,692
Speaker 5: as well.

987
00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:17,053
Speaker 3: But was it worth twenty thousand dollars on this student loan?

988
00:43:17,453 --> 00:43:18,692
Speaker 5: I don't know it was.

989
00:43:19,733 --> 00:43:22,773
Speaker 3: But gap, yeah I did. I left school at sixteen

990
00:43:23,293 --> 00:43:26,453
Speaker 3: and the reason I left at sixteen is because I

991
00:43:26,493 --> 00:43:28,013
Speaker 3: didn't think I was going to get much from my

992
00:43:28,253 --> 00:43:30,293
Speaker 3: seventh form year at the time of the year thirteen now,

993
00:43:31,013 --> 00:43:32,733
Speaker 3: and I didn't really know what I wanted to do.

994
00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:34,213
Speaker 3: But Mum said to me, you've got to do something,

995
00:43:34,213 --> 00:43:37,733
Speaker 3: whether you go into polytech or tertiary education, or I

996
00:43:37,933 --> 00:43:40,773
Speaker 3: go and get a job. And I ended up working

997
00:43:41,293 --> 00:43:43,933
Speaker 3: out Mount Upei. Oh yeah, as a lifting.

998
00:43:43,893 --> 00:43:45,853
Speaker 5: Oh I see, that's the dream, going working on.

999
00:43:45,773 --> 00:43:46,493
Speaker 3: A ski field.

1000
00:43:46,733 --> 00:43:46,933
Speaker 12: Yep.

1001
00:43:47,013 --> 00:43:49,893
Speaker 3: I was seventeen, couldn't get into the bars, which was problematic.

1002
00:43:50,293 --> 00:43:53,933
Speaker 3: Managed to get into a couple. Oh really yeah yeah,

1003
00:43:53,973 --> 00:43:55,773
Speaker 3: but that was a great six years my life.

1004
00:43:55,973 --> 00:43:58,413
Speaker 5: Yeah, six years, six.

1005
00:43:58,253 --> 00:44:00,853
Speaker 3: Months, six months, six months. Yeah, it's a long since.

1006
00:44:00,933 --> 00:44:03,652
Speaker 5: It's a long six months at the at the lift

1007
00:44:03,693 --> 00:44:05,093
Speaker 5: as a long shift.

1008
00:44:05,373 --> 00:44:07,773
Speaker 6: But our gap gap is a good thing. Have you

1009
00:44:07,813 --> 00:44:09,533
Speaker 6: been on a gat year? I think they are.

1010
00:44:09,733 --> 00:44:11,813
Speaker 5: I think I think if you don't know what you do,

1011
00:44:12,293 --> 00:44:14,053
Speaker 5: what you're going to do, and you do plan to

1012
00:44:14,093 --> 00:44:18,613
Speaker 5: do some tertiary education, then that's a fantastic thing to do.

1013
00:44:18,613 --> 00:44:21,292
Speaker 5: Do a gap year, get some space, but you've got

1014
00:44:21,293 --> 00:44:22,172
Speaker 5: to make it a gap year.

1015
00:44:22,453 --> 00:44:23,373
Speaker 3: What about traveling?

1016
00:44:24,453 --> 00:44:28,533
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean that age. Yeah, well, I mean

1017
00:44:28,573 --> 00:44:29,652
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people that have done that

1018
00:44:29,693 --> 00:44:31,493
Speaker 5: and it's been very positive. But I'd prefer if my

1019
00:44:31,533 --> 00:44:33,772
Speaker 5: son didn't just go overseas immediately right now. I quite

1020
00:44:33,773 --> 00:44:34,493
Speaker 5: like going help with them.

1021
00:44:34,813 --> 00:44:36,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, good call, I'd miss him. Oh, eight one hundred

1022
00:44:37,013 --> 00:44:39,813
Speaker 3: eighty eight. If you've done a gap year yourself, love

1023
00:44:39,853 --> 00:44:42,413
Speaker 3: to hear from you. If you're in that situation now

1024
00:44:42,533 --> 00:44:44,893
Speaker 3: where your child is about to leave school, are they

1025
00:44:44,933 --> 00:44:47,613
Speaker 3: thinking about a gap year? Are you encouraging them to

1026
00:44:47,653 --> 00:44:49,453
Speaker 3: do that? I've got to say, the stats out from

1027
00:44:49,453 --> 00:44:53,772
Speaker 3: the UK over the past ten years, the students going

1028
00:44:53,813 --> 00:44:56,453
Speaker 3: for a gap year has increased fifty percent, from twenty

1029
00:44:56,533 --> 00:44:59,453
Speaker 3: thousand students to thirty thousand students. That's a big increase.

1030
00:44:59,853 --> 00:45:01,252
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think a lot of that is people

1031
00:45:01,333 --> 00:45:04,493
Speaker 5: are asking if university is going to deliver what they

1032
00:45:04,533 --> 00:45:07,173
Speaker 5: need in the future, whether their degree will be anything

1033
00:45:07,213 --> 00:45:10,133
Speaker 5: for them in years. Yeah, that's that's a question you're

1034
00:45:10,133 --> 00:45:12,013
Speaker 5: looking at. I mean, what can't you what can't you

1035
00:45:12,053 --> 00:45:12,693
Speaker 5: learn on YouTube?

1036
00:45:12,813 --> 00:45:13,013
Speaker 8: Yep?

1037
00:45:13,053 --> 00:45:15,732
Speaker 3: Exactly nine two ninety two is the text number. It's

1038
00:45:15,773 --> 00:45:16,893
Speaker 3: eleven past two.

1039
00:45:17,173 --> 00:45:21,453
Speaker 29: Good afternoon, your new home of afternoon Talk and Ethen

1040
00:45:21,613 --> 00:45:23,453
Speaker 29: Tyler Adams Afternoon call.

1041
00:45:23,613 --> 00:45:28,053
Speaker 8: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be very.

1042
00:45:27,893 --> 00:45:30,413
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, fourteen past two. What are the benefits of

1043
00:45:30,453 --> 00:45:34,413
Speaker 3: a gap year, particularly for children leaving high school? With Nita?

1044
00:45:34,453 --> 00:45:36,453
Speaker 3: How are you hi?

1045
00:45:36,573 --> 00:45:36,973
Speaker 30: Good in you?

1046
00:45:37,613 --> 00:45:39,812
Speaker 3: Very nice to chat with you. So what's your story.

1047
00:45:39,853 --> 00:45:40,853
Speaker 3: Did you take a gap year?

1048
00:45:41,933 --> 00:45:45,533
Speaker 31: No, I didn't, and I went into hairdressing school right

1049
00:45:45,573 --> 00:45:50,093
Speaker 31: after school and I took the career beyond that. So

1050
00:45:50,213 --> 00:45:53,733
Speaker 31: that's great. But my brother took a gap year and

1051
00:45:53,773 --> 00:45:56,813
Speaker 31: he just played golf for that whole year and he's

1052
00:45:56,853 --> 00:46:01,253
Speaker 31: actually a successful golf player and he works for Titless

1053
00:46:01,333 --> 00:46:04,933
Speaker 31: titleist in South Africa. So yeah, I say, there is

1054
00:46:05,013 --> 00:46:07,093
Speaker 31: quite a it's quite a good thing I think to

1055
00:46:07,173 --> 00:46:09,973
Speaker 31: do a gap year some times, because then you really

1056
00:46:10,013 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 31: want to suss out what you want to do in

1057
00:46:11,533 --> 00:46:14,413
Speaker 31: your life, because I always say an eighteen year old

1058
00:46:14,453 --> 00:46:16,773
Speaker 31: can't always decide what a forty year old wants to do.

1059
00:46:17,093 --> 00:46:19,413
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a very good, very very good point. Now,

1060
00:46:19,413 --> 00:46:21,652
Speaker 5: when so when you say your brother took a gap

1061
00:46:21,733 --> 00:46:24,053
Speaker 5: year and just played golf, was he playing the golf

1062
00:46:24,493 --> 00:46:26,893
Speaker 5: with a plan in mind? Or was he just playing

1063
00:46:26,933 --> 00:46:28,933
Speaker 5: golf for fun with his mates and it turned out

1064
00:46:28,973 --> 00:46:29,692
Speaker 5: that he was very good?

1065
00:46:30,973 --> 00:46:35,373
Speaker 31: No, he actually loved golf since school and then he

1066
00:46:35,573 --> 00:46:38,133
Speaker 31: just decided, oh maybe I should just play golf for it. Yeah,

1067
00:46:38,213 --> 00:46:40,853
Speaker 31: and it became his job and he yeah, it just

1068
00:46:41,453 --> 00:46:44,253
Speaker 31: you probably had a mind or a plan with it,

1069
00:46:44,253 --> 00:46:46,973
Speaker 31: because he did study through the PGA, and he did

1070
00:46:47,013 --> 00:46:49,413
Speaker 31: do a marketing degree as well, and I think that's

1071
00:46:49,413 --> 00:46:52,573
Speaker 31: why he ended up with Titlis. So that's awesome for him.

1072
00:46:52,813 --> 00:46:53,733
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's working.

1073
00:46:53,773 --> 00:46:54,813
Speaker 3: That's the dream, isn't it.

1074
00:46:54,853 --> 00:46:57,413
Speaker 5: Well it sounds like he was following a passion. So

1075
00:46:57,533 --> 00:47:00,613
Speaker 5: a gap year before you lock yourself in, as you say,

1076
00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:03,253
Speaker 5: with what you're going to do right through your forties,

1077
00:47:03,933 --> 00:47:06,373
Speaker 5: and you've got a passion, that's that's the time to

1078
00:47:06,453 --> 00:47:08,973
Speaker 5: follow your passion. When you've got all that energy and

1079
00:47:09,373 --> 00:47:11,813
Speaker 5: to be honest, not a lot of responsibility, when you're

1080
00:47:11,853 --> 00:47:14,133
Speaker 5: in your late teens early twenties, that's the time to

1081
00:47:14,413 --> 00:47:16,133
Speaker 5: really lean into a passion.

1082
00:47:18,413 --> 00:47:20,173
Speaker 31: And I think he's you like to say, he's just

1083
00:47:20,213 --> 00:47:20,853
Speaker 31: living the dream.

1084
00:47:21,373 --> 00:47:22,293
Speaker 6: Congratulations to her.

1085
00:47:22,973 --> 00:47:23,773
Speaker 3: What's his handicap?

1086
00:47:25,413 --> 00:47:26,053
Speaker 31: Oh, I don't know.

1087
00:47:26,133 --> 00:47:26,853
Speaker 32: Mine is something.

1088
00:47:26,893 --> 00:47:28,453
Speaker 31: I'm not sure. I don't even know if he's got

1089
00:47:28,493 --> 00:47:29,493
Speaker 31: a handicap anymore.

1090
00:47:29,653 --> 00:47:31,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you play a better golf yourself?

1091
00:47:32,493 --> 00:47:32,652
Speaker 12: Oh?

1092
00:47:32,733 --> 00:47:34,772
Speaker 31: I tried, but then I got angry on the course

1093
00:47:34,813 --> 00:47:38,573
Speaker 31: and I was on the on the yeah, the golf course,

1094
00:47:38,613 --> 00:47:40,293
Speaker 31: and then he said, no, you go off now, and

1095
00:47:40,293 --> 00:47:41,212
Speaker 31: then I need to play golf.

1096
00:47:41,413 --> 00:47:43,813
Speaker 3: Anger is a part of golf. With don't let anyone

1097
00:47:43,853 --> 00:47:46,133
Speaker 3: tell you otherwise. The most frustrating sport on the world

1098
00:47:46,133 --> 00:47:49,013
Speaker 3: of fear. Not very good luck. I am Brett. How

1099
00:47:49,053 --> 00:47:49,733
Speaker 3: are you mate?

1100
00:47:50,253 --> 00:47:50,652
Speaker 33: I'm good.

1101
00:47:50,653 --> 00:47:50,973
Speaker 20: How are you?

1102
00:47:51,133 --> 00:47:54,653
Speaker 28: Yeah good, I'm good normal.

1103
00:47:54,493 --> 00:47:58,293
Speaker 33: And four or more four golf gap years. I've got

1104
00:47:58,293 --> 00:47:59,933
Speaker 33: two kids. My daughter your golf years.

1105
00:47:59,933 --> 00:48:00,453
Speaker 11: I wish I could.

1106
00:48:02,213 --> 00:48:02,293
Speaker 34: So.

1107
00:48:02,413 --> 00:48:04,213
Speaker 33: My daughter left school knew what she wanted to do.

1108
00:48:04,293 --> 00:48:06,293
Speaker 33: She knew whether that from fourteen, went straight out and

1109
00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:08,893
Speaker 33: got a degree and got a career. My son, on

1110
00:48:08,933 --> 00:48:12,733
Speaker 33: the other hand, who was very, very clever, you know,

1111
00:48:12,773 --> 00:48:15,973
Speaker 33: he was clever at sciences and maths and things like that,

1112
00:48:16,013 --> 00:48:17,533
Speaker 33: and there was all this pressure, you need to go

1113
00:48:17,573 --> 00:48:20,693
Speaker 33: and do engineering, go and do engineering, and so we

1114
00:48:20,773 --> 00:48:22,333
Speaker 33: tried to convince him to take a gap year, and

1115
00:48:22,333 --> 00:48:24,053
Speaker 33: he wouldn't. And he went and did engineering and he

1116
00:48:24,093 --> 00:48:26,413
Speaker 33: went from straight a's and year one to straight season

1117
00:48:26,493 --> 00:48:31,053
Speaker 33: year halfway through year through it too, and we said

1118
00:48:31,093 --> 00:48:33,813
Speaker 33: to him, mate, just give it up, go and take

1119
00:48:33,853 --> 00:48:36,093
Speaker 33: a gap and go and do something else. So he

1120
00:48:36,133 --> 00:48:40,013
Speaker 33: went overseas and while he is away, he figured out

1121
00:48:40,013 --> 00:48:40,773
Speaker 33: what he actually.

1122
00:48:40,533 --> 00:48:41,013
Speaker 11: Wanted to do.

1123
00:48:41,133 --> 00:48:44,093
Speaker 33: And he's actually in China when he figured out what

1124
00:48:44,093 --> 00:48:46,252
Speaker 33: he wanted to do, came back to the four year degree,

1125
00:48:46,373 --> 00:48:49,413
Speaker 33: got a first class honors degree and he's laughing. But

1126
00:48:50,053 --> 00:48:52,093
Speaker 33: there was so much pressure on in the high schools,

1127
00:48:52,173 --> 00:48:54,733
Speaker 33: and there was so much pressure put on him, you know,

1128
00:48:55,173 --> 00:48:57,173
Speaker 33: because you know, he was doing unie papers when he

1129
00:48:57,213 --> 00:48:59,533
Speaker 33: was still at high school and calculus and things like that,

1130
00:49:00,373 --> 00:49:02,212
Speaker 33: you need to go and do this, and they put

1131
00:49:02,333 --> 00:49:05,053
Speaker 33: so much pressure on And as the last caller said,

1132
00:49:05,133 --> 00:49:06,853
Speaker 33: how can an eighteen year old know what they want

1133
00:49:06,893 --> 00:49:09,213
Speaker 33: to be and doing? And when they're forty and so,

1134
00:49:09,333 --> 00:49:12,252
Speaker 33: I honestly, and anyone says to me, what do you think,

1135
00:49:12,293 --> 00:49:13,733
Speaker 33: I said, it's one year.

1136
00:49:13,653 --> 00:49:14,813
Speaker 10: Out of their life.

1137
00:49:15,013 --> 00:49:16,813
Speaker 33: You know, they're working for the rest of their lives.

1138
00:49:16,893 --> 00:49:19,333
Speaker 33: Take some time off to consider what you actually want

1139
00:49:19,373 --> 00:49:21,533
Speaker 33: to do. Because you're a long time working you can

1140
00:49:21,573 --> 00:49:23,093
Speaker 33: be a hell of a long time unhappy too.

1141
00:49:23,253 --> 00:49:23,493
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1142
00:49:23,613 --> 00:49:27,053
Speaker 5: So, Brett, did your son have an interest in engineering?

1143
00:49:27,173 --> 00:49:28,893
Speaker 5: Was that just because he was a smart kid that

1144
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:31,293
Speaker 5: seemed like the logical thing to do at the time

1145
00:49:31,333 --> 00:49:32,213
Speaker 5: when he chose to do it.

1146
00:49:32,853 --> 00:49:34,853
Speaker 33: Yep, because he's a maths and science and that sort

1147
00:49:34,893 --> 00:49:36,733
Speaker 33: of thing, you should be an engineer. And it was

1148
00:49:36,733 --> 00:49:39,813
Speaker 33: really funny. So when overseas with a friend and wandered

1149
00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:43,733
Speaker 33: into a museum and Gwang and Shanghai. That was about

1150
00:49:43,853 --> 00:49:46,973
Speaker 33: how she Shanghai has been planned in the city. I've

1151
00:49:46,973 --> 00:49:48,973
Speaker 33: actually been to her. It's quite amazing. It's about three

1152
00:49:48,973 --> 00:49:51,652
Speaker 33: stories this building. And he walked out, came home and said,

1153
00:49:51,653 --> 00:49:52,693
Speaker 33: I'm going to be a town planner.

1154
00:49:52,773 --> 00:49:54,253
Speaker 3: Wow, I love that.

1155
00:49:55,373 --> 00:49:58,653
Speaker 33: And as I say, you know, first class honors degree,

1156
00:49:58,693 --> 00:50:02,133
Speaker 33: so you know, pretty clever. But he was just wasted

1157
00:50:02,213 --> 00:50:03,693
Speaker 33: what he is doing and was.

1158
00:50:04,133 --> 00:50:05,933
Speaker 5: And is enjoyed being a town planner.

1159
00:50:06,493 --> 00:50:07,053
Speaker 33: He loves it.

1160
00:50:07,693 --> 00:50:10,293
Speaker 5: See that's a brilliant story. So if he just battled

1161
00:50:10,333 --> 00:50:13,973
Speaker 5: on and the engineering that he didn't like, thenpy Man,

1162
00:50:14,173 --> 00:50:16,093
Speaker 5: he would never have found that true passion.

1163
00:50:16,333 --> 00:50:17,453
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right.

1164
00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:20,813
Speaker 33: So you know, I just when people say, oh, you've

1165
00:50:20,813 --> 00:50:22,212
Speaker 33: got to go and get a degree, I just say

1166
00:50:22,253 --> 00:50:25,293
Speaker 33: to forget about it. It's you know, I got a

1167
00:50:25,333 --> 00:50:28,573
Speaker 33: degree when I was in the mid thirties, so it

1168
00:50:28,613 --> 00:50:31,213
Speaker 33: didn't stop me. And I just think kids got to

1169
00:50:31,253 --> 00:50:32,893
Speaker 33: find find their place in the world.

1170
00:50:33,213 --> 00:50:34,853
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think a lot of for a lot

1171
00:50:34,893 --> 00:50:38,213
Speaker 5: of kids, going into tertiary education is kind of like

1172
00:50:38,453 --> 00:50:40,373
Speaker 5: not making a decision in a way because you're not

1173
00:50:40,453 --> 00:50:43,692
Speaker 5: ready to leave the institutions. You've been at school, it's

1174
00:50:43,733 --> 00:50:45,813
Speaker 5: quite terrifying to just go out into the world, so

1175
00:50:45,853 --> 00:50:48,493
Speaker 5: you might end up getting a degree essentially, so you're

1176
00:50:48,533 --> 00:50:51,813
Speaker 5: staying at school and keeping those guardrails going. When I

1177
00:50:52,173 --> 00:50:54,573
Speaker 5: believe that at that young age, that's when you do

1178
00:50:54,613 --> 00:50:58,533
Speaker 5: the take the risks and follow the dreams.

1179
00:50:58,253 --> 00:51:00,093
Speaker 3: Because it does get harder, doesn't it. The older that

1180
00:51:00,133 --> 00:51:03,013
Speaker 3: you get and you get more roots, you get tied down, well,

1181
00:51:03,053 --> 00:51:04,573
Speaker 3: tied down is not the right word, but you know,

1182
00:51:04,613 --> 00:51:07,373
Speaker 3: you get responsibilities in life and then you start maybe

1183
00:51:07,493 --> 00:51:10,213
Speaker 3: having a family of children gets harder and harder and

1184
00:51:10,253 --> 00:51:12,812
Speaker 3: harder to go and do those things. And when you're

1185
00:51:12,853 --> 00:51:15,212
Speaker 3: young and you can absorb all that stuff, that's the time.

1186
00:51:15,293 --> 00:51:17,413
Speaker 5: Eh yeah, I miss You're me Tyler and you follow

1187
00:51:17,413 --> 00:51:19,333
Speaker 5: your dream of moving up to news talks.

1188
00:51:19,173 --> 00:51:22,093
Speaker 3: Edby and here you are, look at you now, Oh

1189
00:51:22,173 --> 00:51:24,613
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty gap years? Are you

1190
00:51:24,733 --> 00:51:26,933
Speaker 3: encouraging your children to take a bit of a gap

1191
00:51:27,013 --> 00:51:29,133
Speaker 3: year before they may go into a trade or two?

1192
00:51:29,293 --> 00:51:31,973
Speaker 3: Re education? And did you do one yourself? Love to

1193
00:51:31,973 --> 00:51:34,133
Speaker 3: hear from you. Nine two ninety two was the text number.

1194
00:51:34,413 --> 00:51:38,973
Speaker 3: It's twenty past two.

1195
00:51:40,093 --> 00:51:42,292
Speaker 8: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

1196
00:51:42,413 --> 00:51:45,173
Speaker 1: Call oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on News Talks,

1197
00:51:45,253 --> 00:51:46,893
Speaker 1: edby Good Afternoon.

1198
00:51:46,893 --> 00:51:49,293
Speaker 3: It's twenty two past two and we're talking about gap years.

1199
00:51:49,413 --> 00:51:52,373
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, because your thirteen. It's the finishing school

1200
00:51:52,813 --> 00:51:56,773
Speaker 5: this week. Mine finished on Tuesday. Got exams to do,

1201
00:51:57,453 --> 00:51:59,813
Speaker 5: but he's chosen to take a gap year. Getting a

1202
00:51:59,813 --> 00:52:03,533
Speaker 5: lot of support from gap years on the on the phones. Yeah,

1203
00:52:03,533 --> 00:52:05,453
Speaker 5: and you've got a text here from Lucy. I went

1204
00:52:05,493 --> 00:52:07,652
Speaker 5: for a gap year, sort of joined the Navy until

1205
00:52:07,653 --> 00:52:10,093
Speaker 5: I decided well to do twenty seven years later, I

1206
00:52:10,173 --> 00:52:12,573
Speaker 5: left the Navy in our work and search and rescue.

1207
00:52:12,693 --> 00:52:17,333
Speaker 5: So the gap year became an exciting, adventurous life for Lucy.

1208
00:52:17,493 --> 00:52:19,252
Speaker 3: Fantastic Thor. How are you doing?

1209
00:52:20,253 --> 00:52:21,893
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, have things good?

1210
00:52:21,973 --> 00:52:22,973
Speaker 3: Love the name Thor.

1211
00:52:25,973 --> 00:52:27,733
Speaker 4: I just kind of want to put my two cents

1212
00:52:27,733 --> 00:52:30,973
Speaker 4: in hand to say I didn't take a gap year

1213
00:52:31,693 --> 00:52:33,653
Speaker 4: straight out of high school. But I went to university

1214
00:52:34,213 --> 00:52:37,093
Speaker 4: and finished my degree, and you know, got a job

1215
00:52:37,133 --> 00:52:39,652
Speaker 4: at an office and sort of realized that wasn't for me,

1216
00:52:40,293 --> 00:52:44,893
Speaker 4: and then I got my trade, so after three years,

1217
00:52:45,093 --> 00:52:49,733
Speaker 4: became a registered electrician. But you know, we're getting a

1218
00:52:49,773 --> 00:52:53,333
Speaker 4: little bit older, So people us me to talk to

1219
00:52:53,373 --> 00:52:56,053
Speaker 4: the young kids, saying, you know, can we give them

1220
00:52:56,093 --> 00:52:59,413
Speaker 4: some advice? But I'm leaning heavily towards just taking a

1221
00:52:59,413 --> 00:53:02,293
Speaker 4: gap year, you know, figuring it out, maybe go to

1222
00:53:02,373 --> 00:53:04,732
Speaker 4: hospitality work and stuff like that.

1223
00:53:04,813 --> 00:53:06,493
Speaker 6: Yeah, good on you, that's.

1224
00:53:06,373 --> 00:53:08,813
Speaker 5: Got I like the idea of an electrician beer being

1225
00:53:08,813 --> 00:53:10,493
Speaker 5: the god of thunder though that kind of works a

1226
00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:11,533
Speaker 5: going of funder him later.

1227
00:53:14,293 --> 00:53:16,773
Speaker 3: And was that was that a hard thing to convince

1228
00:53:16,813 --> 00:53:19,013
Speaker 3: your appearance that that's the best thing for you? Did

1229
00:53:19,053 --> 00:53:21,853
Speaker 3: you get any pressure to stick with, you know, the

1230
00:53:21,933 --> 00:53:25,013
Speaker 3: idea of the trade or were they quite encouraging that.

1231
00:53:25,093 --> 00:53:26,533
Speaker 3: And it's actually a good thing to go and do

1232
00:53:26,573 --> 00:53:28,692
Speaker 3: a gap here and just figure out the world a bit.

1233
00:53:29,573 --> 00:53:29,812
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1234
00:53:29,893 --> 00:53:33,453
Speaker 34: I feel like, you know, an eighteen year old doesn't

1235
00:53:33,493 --> 00:53:36,013
Speaker 34: necessarily know exactly what he wants to do.

1236
00:53:36,093 --> 00:53:38,013
Speaker 5: So year old doesn't know anything.

1237
00:53:39,093 --> 00:53:45,933
Speaker 34: Yeah, yeah, I generally didn't, but yeah, yeah, but I

1238
00:53:46,293 --> 00:53:49,373
Speaker 34: just think give some real world experience under your belt

1239
00:53:49,453 --> 00:53:52,853
Speaker 34: and you know, nine to five with whatever it may

1240
00:53:52,893 --> 00:53:56,213
Speaker 34: be in an office or an hospitality or it just

1241
00:53:56,053 --> 00:53:58,613
Speaker 34: it just opens up your horizons and moving out and

1242
00:53:58,653 --> 00:54:02,533
Speaker 34: paying bills and you know that gapia doesn't necessarily mean

1243
00:54:02,613 --> 00:54:05,253
Speaker 34: traveling as such, but you know, just taking on the

1244
00:54:05,293 --> 00:54:06,573
Speaker 34: real world straight out of school.

1245
00:54:06,933 --> 00:54:07,133
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1246
00:54:07,173 --> 00:54:09,652
Speaker 5: You may follow your paw and find what that is,

1247
00:54:09,773 --> 00:54:12,413
Speaker 5: or you might find something incredible, but you might also

1248
00:54:12,573 --> 00:54:16,013
Speaker 5: find exactly what you don't want to do. And you know,

1249
00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:17,933
Speaker 5: for example, I was talking before about a nephew that

1250
00:54:18,013 --> 00:54:20,333
Speaker 5: was in a supermarket. He discovered that he didn't want

1251
00:54:20,373 --> 00:54:22,053
Speaker 5: to work in the fruit and produce section of a

1252
00:54:22,093 --> 00:54:25,293
Speaker 5: supermarket and he wanted to get back, and when he

1253
00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:28,733
Speaker 5: went to university he was very, very very focused on

1254
00:54:29,293 --> 00:54:32,213
Speaker 5: creating the career wanted. So there is something in seeing

1255
00:54:32,373 --> 00:54:35,013
Speaker 5: the real world as well for exactly.

1256
00:54:35,173 --> 00:54:38,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely great stuff. Thanks very much for giving

1257
00:54:38,493 --> 00:54:40,573
Speaker 3: us a buzz. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1258
00:54:40,613 --> 00:54:43,013
Speaker 3: is the number to call, Sandy. How are you?

1259
00:54:43,973 --> 00:54:48,493
Speaker 35: Oh, I'm just thank you good my experience as a

1260
00:54:48,533 --> 00:54:52,133
Speaker 35: mother at our eighteen year old had been accepted for

1261
00:54:52,293 --> 00:54:55,692
Speaker 35: a course in the July of the following year, so

1262
00:54:55,733 --> 00:54:59,733
Speaker 35: he left school seventh form and was going to start

1263
00:54:59,733 --> 00:55:02,373
Speaker 35: the course in the July, but he wanted to put

1264
00:55:02,413 --> 00:55:05,493
Speaker 35: it off until the following January. He wanted to take

1265
00:55:05,533 --> 00:55:08,933
Speaker 35: a gap year. He was in the end see a

1266
00:55:09,613 --> 00:55:12,933
Speaker 35: guinea pig year they called it, and the very first

1267
00:55:13,013 --> 00:55:15,573
Speaker 35: year lots of work, lots of study, all that sort

1268
00:55:15,613 --> 00:55:17,773
Speaker 35: of thing. So when he said to me that he

1269
00:55:17,893 --> 00:55:21,453
Speaker 35: wanted to put the course off until the following year,

1270
00:55:22,293 --> 00:55:23,893
Speaker 35: I said to him, why don't you just get on

1271
00:55:23,973 --> 00:55:27,213
Speaker 35: and do it. And he said, Mum, he said, I

1272
00:55:27,293 --> 00:55:29,893
Speaker 35: want a year off, and I said.

1273
00:55:29,813 --> 00:55:30,493
Speaker 24: Fair comment.

1274
00:55:30,893 --> 00:55:31,773
Speaker 35: What can you say?

1275
00:55:31,973 --> 00:55:32,213
Speaker 24: You know?

1276
00:55:32,493 --> 00:55:38,453
Speaker 35: So he got a job doing the helping out with

1277
00:55:38,533 --> 00:55:42,453
Speaker 35: the grape season, and when he finished that, he didn't

1278
00:55:42,453 --> 00:55:45,373
Speaker 35: have a job. So that wasn't about the April and

1279
00:55:45,533 --> 00:55:47,533
Speaker 35: I was coming home from work and he was sitting

1280
00:55:47,573 --> 00:55:50,293
Speaker 35: on the computer and he had enough money saved for

1281
00:55:50,413 --> 00:55:53,732
Speaker 35: his petrol and his takeaways, and Mum and Dad would

1282
00:55:53,733 --> 00:55:54,573
Speaker 35: look after him, of.

1283
00:55:54,533 --> 00:55:57,213
Speaker 15: Course, and so got a bit tired of this.

1284
00:55:57,493 --> 00:55:59,253
Speaker 35: So in the end I said to him, and we

1285
00:55:59,333 --> 00:56:02,733
Speaker 35: said to him, okay, we need some board from you.

1286
00:56:03,413 --> 00:56:05,773
Speaker 35: It's going to cost us to keep you. You're in

1287
00:56:05,893 --> 00:56:08,973
Speaker 35: the house all day doing nothing. So well, he was

1288
00:56:08,973 --> 00:56:11,053
Speaker 35: off that year. Down to the supermarket.

1289
00:56:11,173 --> 00:56:12,333
Speaker 24: He found a job.

1290
00:56:13,573 --> 00:56:15,973
Speaker 35: And he worked as that off for the rest of

1291
00:56:16,013 --> 00:56:18,853
Speaker 35: the year. Got so sich of getting four or five

1292
00:56:18,933 --> 00:56:23,093
Speaker 35: hundred dollars a week when he knew how much he

1293
00:56:23,133 --> 00:56:26,213
Speaker 35: would be getting going forward when he qualified for the

1294
00:56:26,333 --> 00:56:29,692
Speaker 35: job that he was going to study in, and so

1295
00:56:29,773 --> 00:56:35,013
Speaker 35: it's fantastic. I'd tell people go for it. However, there

1296
00:56:35,093 --> 00:56:37,853
Speaker 35: is the other side, and people said to me, oh,

1297
00:56:37,933 --> 00:56:40,253
Speaker 35: what say he gets you to that supermarket job and

1298
00:56:40,253 --> 00:56:43,213
Speaker 35: he doesn't want to look for anything else. But that

1299
00:56:43,493 --> 00:56:47,292
Speaker 35: year that made him even more determined. So it wasn't

1300
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:47,933
Speaker 35: what he wanted.

1301
00:56:48,333 --> 00:56:51,373
Speaker 5: Because that's the concern, isn't it, Sandy, that you could

1302
00:56:51,613 --> 00:56:55,493
Speaker 5: end up on a gap decade and then you're looking

1303
00:56:55,533 --> 00:56:58,493
Speaker 5: back and going I never did that, and now I

1304
00:56:58,533 --> 00:57:00,453
Speaker 5: can't because I've got too many responsibilities.

1305
00:57:00,573 --> 00:57:03,133
Speaker 35: What we did with that board money, we said to

1306
00:57:03,213 --> 00:57:05,533
Speaker 35: him and we presented it with him before he went

1307
00:57:05,573 --> 00:57:08,973
Speaker 35: off to do his study, this nice check and he said,

1308
00:57:09,013 --> 00:57:11,093
Speaker 35: what's this four? And I said that the money that

1309
00:57:11,173 --> 00:57:14,293
Speaker 35: you gave us for board, we didn't need it, but

1310
00:57:14,413 --> 00:57:18,093
Speaker 35: you needed to be made responsible for yeah, for living

1311
00:57:18,093 --> 00:57:21,013
Speaker 35: in the house here it is. So we actually put

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Speaker 35: it away and bonus formed for him and gave that

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00:57:23,813 --> 00:57:25,093
Speaker 35: to him before he went away.

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Speaker 3: What a great mum you are, Andy, Yeah, great, looks

1315
00:57:27,773 --> 00:57:28,853
Speaker 3: like you crack the code there.

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00:57:29,013 --> 00:57:31,813
Speaker 5: So we're going to continue the gap year chat afterwards.

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00:57:31,813 --> 00:57:33,693
Speaker 5: I'm a big supporter of it. My son's doing it.

1318
00:57:33,733 --> 00:57:36,973
Speaker 5: But after in just a few minutes, I've got a

1319
00:57:37,053 --> 00:57:42,013
Speaker 5: question for you. What are the top five Halloween costumes

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00:57:43,213 --> 00:57:45,493
Speaker 5: in the United States this year?

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00:57:45,653 --> 00:57:47,373
Speaker 3: Join me to have a crack at it. I'll give

1322
00:57:47,413 --> 00:57:53,613
Speaker 3: it a top top two. Okay, oh this year eighty.

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00:57:53,973 --> 00:57:55,373
Speaker 3: I'll have a thing about it, and I'll come back

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Speaker 3: to you very shortly.

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Speaker 6: I feel the list here.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty eight past two.

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00:58:01,373 --> 00:58:01,933
Speaker 8: US talks.

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Speaker 22: There'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It is no

1329
00:58:05,813 --> 00:58:10,133
Speaker 22: trouble with a blue bubble. The Transport Accident Investigation interim

1330
00:58:10,213 --> 00:58:14,613
Speaker 22: report confirms Cookstraight Ferry Ariti ran aground off Picton in

1331
00:58:14,693 --> 00:58:18,093
Speaker 22: June after crew turned on the new autopilot too late

1332
00:58:18,253 --> 00:58:21,053
Speaker 22: in a turn and didn't know how to redirect it.

1333
00:58:22,093 --> 00:58:25,813
Speaker 22: Labor MP Jenny Anderson is criticizing mental health advocate Mike

1334
00:58:25,893 --> 00:58:29,813
Speaker 22: King supporting alcohol use, which she says is our most

1335
00:58:29,853 --> 00:58:34,173
Speaker 22: harmful drug. Hawk's Bay police are investigating a flurry of

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00:58:34,173 --> 00:58:37,413
Speaker 22: incidents in the past twenty four hours. Shots were fired

1337
00:58:37,413 --> 00:58:40,733
Speaker 22: at three houses in Flaxmere and Camataea, and a fight

1338
00:58:40,813 --> 00:58:44,493
Speaker 22: broke art in Artideri between two groups armed with baseball

1339
00:58:44,573 --> 00:58:48,533
Speaker 22: bats and other weapons. Farmax put up a proposal to

1340
00:58:48,613 --> 00:58:53,933
Speaker 22: fund a medicine to strengthen bones denosamub. The free breastscreening

1341
00:58:54,013 --> 00:58:57,733
Speaker 22: age has risen to seventy four for women in Nelson Mulborough.

1342
00:58:57,933 --> 00:59:00,773
Speaker 22: It's ahead of a national rollout late next year for

1343
00:59:00,813 --> 00:59:05,253
Speaker 22: about sixty thousand more women. Why artificial intelligence is the

1344
00:59:05,293 --> 00:59:08,413
Speaker 22: new vehicle for economic growth? See the full column that

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00:59:08,533 --> 00:59:10,933
Speaker 22: n said here will premium Back to Matt Eath and

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00:59:10,973 --> 00:59:11,813
Speaker 22: Tyler Adams.

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00:59:11,813 --> 00:59:13,973
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleian. Just before we get to

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00:59:14,333 --> 00:59:17,333
Speaker 3: the discussion about gap years, you mentioned do we tease

1349
00:59:17,493 --> 00:59:18,333
Speaker 3: before the headlines?

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00:59:18,413 --> 00:59:19,213
Speaker 6: I certainly did.

1351
00:59:19,253 --> 00:59:22,973
Speaker 5: It was the top five.

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00:59:22,333 --> 00:59:24,573
Speaker 6: Halloween costumes in America this year, and I.

1353
00:59:24,493 --> 00:59:25,853
Speaker 3: Said I was going to have a crack. I'll just

1354
00:59:25,973 --> 00:59:27,813
Speaker 3: have a crack at one in the top five. I

1355
00:59:27,893 --> 00:59:31,973
Speaker 3: reckon must be this is in America, raygun the Australian Breakdancer.

1356
00:59:32,133 --> 00:59:33,813
Speaker 5: Surely that should.

1357
00:59:33,613 --> 00:59:34,093
Speaker 6: Be in there.

1358
00:59:34,173 --> 00:59:36,093
Speaker 5: Yeah, it should be in there, And I'm sure it

1359
00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:38,773
Speaker 5: is in Australia. And it was a horror show what

1360
00:59:38,853 --> 00:59:41,613
Speaker 5: she performed at the Olympics. But it isn't in the

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00:59:41,653 --> 00:59:42,813
Speaker 5: top five in the United States.

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00:59:42,893 --> 00:59:46,973
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Craig reckons. He knows Craig I reckon

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00:59:47,013 --> 00:59:48,653
Speaker 3: number one.

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00:59:52,253 --> 00:59:55,453
Speaker 5: Well in America, maybe in New Zealand, although she does

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00:59:55,533 --> 00:59:58,093
Speaker 5: have a high profile in the United States. You got

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Speaker 5: another guess.

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Speaker 3: What are the latest cultural trends over the last year? Oh, Beetlejuice.

1368
01:00:04,933 --> 01:00:06,253
Speaker 3: Beetle Juice movie just came out.

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01:00:06,373 --> 01:00:09,693
Speaker 5: You would think that, all right, Okay, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: no no. According to stats taken from Google searchers and

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01:00:12,933 --> 01:00:16,373
Speaker 5: sales figures, this week in the United States, the number

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01:00:16,493 --> 01:00:22,653
Speaker 5: five the number five Halloween costumes most in America.

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01:00:23,773 --> 01:00:24,413
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not scary, though I.

1375
01:00:28,293 --> 01:00:29,613
Speaker 6: Find her a little bit scary.

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01:00:30,573 --> 01:00:33,333
Speaker 5: Jessica Rabbit. That's an old one from She's coming back.

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01:00:33,333 --> 01:00:36,133
Speaker 5: Well for the kids, that's an adult Yeah.

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01:00:36,173 --> 01:00:37,293
Speaker 6: Well, I mean this isn't for kids.

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01:00:38,693 --> 01:00:40,573
Speaker 5: I mean this is everyone, so a lot of people,

1380
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Speaker 5: and you know, Halloween parties are huge in the United States,

1381
01:00:43,013 --> 01:00:44,853
Speaker 5: so people go there as a sexy Jessica Rabbit.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough.

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01:00:45,733 --> 01:00:46,213
Speaker 6: I like it.

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01:00:46,813 --> 01:00:48,973
Speaker 5: Inflatable check it isn't inflatable.

1385
01:00:49,053 --> 01:00:50,053
Speaker 3: Checken is back.

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Speaker 5: Inflatable. Chicken's doing very well. I didn't pick that one

1387
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Speaker 5: about time time. I don't know what's happening over there

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01:00:57,373 --> 01:01:00,213
Speaker 5: that inflatable chickens are so popular. And then number two

1389
01:01:00,213 --> 01:01:02,573
Speaker 5: and number one Wolverine and Deadpool.

1390
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Speaker 3: Oh nice, because that.

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01:01:04,333 --> 01:01:06,653
Speaker 5: Movie was the hugest movie this year, wasn't it. Wolverine

1392
01:01:06,693 --> 01:01:08,893
Speaker 5: and dead Pool, Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jack to the Ego,

1393
01:01:09,013 --> 01:01:11,893
Speaker 5: Tator Swift, Jessica Rabbit inflatable check and Wolverine and dead

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Speaker 5: Pull at number one.

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Speaker 3: Love it all right, We're going to have Halloween chatting

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01:01:15,653 --> 01:01:17,933
Speaker 3: about half an hour's time. But we have been talking

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01:01:17,973 --> 01:01:21,213
Speaker 3: about gap years, a big increase in the UK and

1398
01:01:21,253 --> 01:01:23,813
Speaker 3: the US and the number of students leaving school and

1399
01:01:23,853 --> 01:01:26,413
Speaker 3: then going on the gap year fifty percent increase over

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01:01:26,413 --> 01:01:30,093
Speaker 3: the past ten years in the UK, They're huge, Vaughan,

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01:01:30,373 --> 01:01:31,813
Speaker 3: did you take a gap year yourself?

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01:01:32,893 --> 01:01:35,693
Speaker 13: No, no, but we're backing a versity in my forties

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01:01:37,573 --> 01:01:40,053
Speaker 13: and my great point which went up twenty points twenty years.

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01:01:40,093 --> 01:01:40,693
Speaker 11: It was great, but.

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01:01:42,133 --> 01:01:45,373
Speaker 13: It was a really niceable note the first year students,

1406
01:01:45,413 --> 01:01:51,613
Speaker 13: they were extremely naive, very mature. I was serving in

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01:01:51,693 --> 01:01:53,653
Speaker 13: one class one day at the back and with some

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01:01:53,733 --> 01:01:55,213
Speaker 13: of the third years that I was startying what we're

1409
01:01:55,213 --> 01:01:59,613
Speaker 13: doing a first year class and serdly the whole right, boys,

1410
01:01:59,613 --> 01:02:02,373
Speaker 13: in front of it just turned to the right. What's

1411
01:02:02,413 --> 01:02:05,293
Speaker 13: going on? So look over and the girl below them

1412
01:02:05,453 --> 01:02:08,853
Speaker 13: was a look shoving for a new bikini. So there

1413
01:02:08,893 --> 01:02:11,893
Speaker 13: was also quite nice. But when you're when you're in class,

1414
01:02:11,973 --> 01:02:14,373
Speaker 13: how many the kids are actally on Facebook. They weren't

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Speaker 13: really in the class, so they were very naive. The

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01:02:18,773 --> 01:02:22,053
Speaker 13: guy as I started with that when the early twenties

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01:02:22,493 --> 01:02:26,413
Speaker 13: three twenty fourths off had been out working. They were

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Speaker 13: really sharp. They liked way up. There's the Friday night.

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Speaker 13: They were not scared to ask questions. They were they

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01:02:34,853 --> 01:02:36,333
Speaker 13: knew the way of the world. I didn't have to

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Speaker 13: hold each other's hands. Then it's quite nice. I live

1422
01:02:39,893 --> 01:02:43,733
Speaker 13: in wealth without Lincoln. But at the start of the year,

1423
01:02:43,773 --> 01:02:45,773
Speaker 13: when all the guns ride, you see all these kids

1424
01:02:45,773 --> 01:02:48,453
Speaker 13: in the through or fourth breasts like you were dead school.

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Speaker 13: As you said earlier on Tyre, you know, it's almost

1426
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Speaker 13: like an extension of school. Too scared to leave, and

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01:02:53,733 --> 01:02:55,813
Speaker 13: they all walk around to the supermarket and all this,

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01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:57,973
Speaker 13: and they're all walking in a line as a group

1429
01:02:58,373 --> 01:03:00,653
Speaker 13: about half a two the year, having to become individuals.

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Speaker 13: And I think that's the big thing you get out

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01:03:02,293 --> 01:03:04,293
Speaker 13: of a gap years. You learned how to be about

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01:03:04,333 --> 01:03:06,213
Speaker 13: you and not necessarily about the crowd.

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Speaker 11: And you like.

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Speaker 13: Some of the callers, I said, you look at what

1435
01:03:10,733 --> 01:03:12,493
Speaker 13: makes you teck and what you really want to do.

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Speaker 13: A number of people I know that were at union

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01:03:15,013 --> 01:03:17,413
Speaker 13: with me that started off on one course and swapched another.

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01:03:18,493 --> 01:03:20,533
Speaker 13: My list daughter would be a classic. She started doing

1439
01:03:20,533 --> 01:03:24,173
Speaker 13: a s. Sgreend and then switched a Commis degree towards

1440
01:03:24,173 --> 01:03:25,973
Speaker 13: an end And what's been great because she's now a

1441
01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:30,373
Speaker 13: rural banker. So well, yeah, it's funny your own way

1442
01:03:30,413 --> 01:03:30,813
Speaker 13: in the world.

1443
01:03:31,093 --> 01:03:35,013
Speaker 5: So well, it's absolutely true Vaughan that when you're that age,

1444
01:03:35,133 --> 01:03:37,413
Speaker 5: you've been in school for thirteen years and there's rules.

1445
01:03:37,453 --> 01:03:38,973
Speaker 5: You've got to go to assemblies, you've got to be

1446
01:03:39,013 --> 01:03:40,813
Speaker 5: there in time, you know when your classes are. And

1447
01:03:40,853 --> 01:03:43,773
Speaker 5: then you go to university and it's much freer. You

1448
01:03:43,853 --> 01:03:47,213
Speaker 5: have to motivate yourself. And I was an absolute idiot

1449
01:03:47,213 --> 01:03:49,493
Speaker 5: when I started going to the university. And I'd listen

1450
01:03:49,533 --> 01:03:51,453
Speaker 5: to the adult students in class and they seem to

1451
01:03:51,493 --> 01:03:53,053
Speaker 5: be so onto it that asked the right questions.

1452
01:03:53,093 --> 01:03:54,373
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even know what was going on.

1453
01:03:55,133 --> 01:03:58,133
Speaker 5: I remember I went flatting really early on, and me

1454
01:03:58,173 --> 01:04:01,973
Speaker 5: and my mate were trying to make pasta spagetti bolog knaze,

1455
01:04:02,053 --> 01:04:04,013
Speaker 5: and we put the pastor and roasted it, and we

1456
01:04:04,053 --> 01:04:06,493
Speaker 5: was trying to work out why why it was an

1457
01:04:06,573 --> 01:04:09,213
Speaker 5: orbandie like it was when Mum made it. And so

1458
01:04:09,333 --> 01:04:11,013
Speaker 5: that person trying to decide what they're going to do

1459
01:04:11,093 --> 01:04:13,493
Speaker 5: for the rest of their life, let alone concentrate, and

1460
01:04:13,613 --> 01:04:15,773
Speaker 5: the lecture was never ever going to happen.

1461
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Speaker 3: That's nice one, Vaughan. Thank you very much mate. Oh

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01:04:20,453 --> 01:04:22,733
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call quick text of the break yaday, guys. I'm twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Love listening to your show. I left school at sixteen.

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01:04:28,253 --> 01:04:31,893
Speaker 3: I'm now a national business development manager for a very

1466
01:04:31,893 --> 01:04:34,853
Speaker 3: successful company. Well, I didn't go to university. I believe

1467
01:04:34,933 --> 01:04:37,813
Speaker 3: that if you have the motivation to go somewhere, a

1468
01:04:37,813 --> 01:04:40,533
Speaker 3: bit of paper doesn't always require you to get there.

1469
01:04:40,653 --> 01:04:44,133
Speaker 5: Look at that twenty one a national business development manager.

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Speaker 6: Wonder can Yeah, that's what you call that.

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Speaker 3: Wonder can keep those techs coming through on nine two

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Speaker 3: nine two. It's twenty two minutes.

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01:04:50,213 --> 01:04:50,773
Speaker 6: To three.

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01:04:52,813 --> 01:04:53,293
Speaker 8: Matteeth.

1475
01:04:53,493 --> 01:04:56,213
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh eight hundred and

1476
01:04:56,253 --> 01:05:00,173
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matteth and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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01:05:00,173 --> 01:05:03,893
Speaker 3: They'd be very good. Afternoon twenty to three, we're.

1478
01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:06,293
Speaker 5: Talking about gap years, Dylan, you're a gap year doubter.

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01:05:08,373 --> 01:05:12,853
Speaker 36: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't really a good idea

1480
01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:16,813
Speaker 36: if you're not necessarily too sure what you want to do.

1481
01:05:16,973 --> 01:05:20,613
Speaker 36: But I don't. I don't really think that going straight

1482
01:05:20,653 --> 01:05:26,573
Speaker 36: into university is necessarily the best idea, just because most

1483
01:05:26,613 --> 01:05:28,613
Speaker 36: people end up just wasting a whole bunch of money.

1484
01:05:28,613 --> 01:05:31,533
Speaker 36: They go to study what they think they want to do,

1485
01:05:33,013 --> 01:05:35,733
Speaker 36: and then chances are they don't actually end up wanting

1486
01:05:35,773 --> 01:05:37,613
Speaker 36: to do that by the end of it, and they

1487
01:05:38,053 --> 01:05:42,253
Speaker 36: end up with a big debt. I ended up just

1488
01:05:42,293 --> 01:05:45,653
Speaker 36: going straight in to work straight after well during school,

1489
01:05:45,693 --> 01:05:50,653
Speaker 36: but I ended up finding while I was working, finding

1490
01:05:50,653 --> 01:05:52,613
Speaker 36: that I wanted to be an electrician, so I studied

1491
01:05:52,653 --> 01:05:57,293
Speaker 36: at the same time. But yeah, yeah, I don't. I

1492
01:05:57,293 --> 01:06:00,013
Speaker 36: don't necessarily think that it's the greatest idea to go

1493
01:06:00,173 --> 01:06:04,453
Speaker 36: traveling or anything like that. I think it's better just

1494
01:06:04,533 --> 01:06:07,653
Speaker 36: to go straight in to work. The other issue with

1495
01:06:08,373 --> 01:06:12,493
Speaker 36: I'm straight into studying is you don't have any experience,

1496
01:06:12,533 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 36: so you come out with a degree. But most workplaces

1497
01:06:15,973 --> 01:06:21,453
Speaker 36: want some kind of experience, so it's hard to find

1498
01:06:21,453 --> 01:06:23,413
Speaker 36: a job even when you have a degree because you

1499
01:06:23,453 --> 01:06:25,693
Speaker 36: don't have any any work experience.

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01:06:25,773 --> 01:06:29,973
Speaker 5: But yeah, so Dylan, you you went in and eventually

1501
01:06:30,013 --> 01:06:32,573
Speaker 5: win a study become an electrician, and you're still an

1502
01:06:32,613 --> 01:06:35,413
Speaker 5: electrician and you're enjoying that. That's that's the career that

1503
01:06:35,453 --> 01:06:36,853
Speaker 5: you're glad you ended up in that spot.

1504
01:06:37,893 --> 01:06:39,373
Speaker 11: Christ delplp. Yeah.

1505
01:06:39,413 --> 01:06:40,213
Speaker 3: And how old are you now?

1506
01:06:40,293 --> 01:06:40,573
Speaker 5: Dylan?

1507
01:06:44,013 --> 01:06:46,373
Speaker 3: Still a young man, so you're right, you're right now?

1508
01:06:46,933 --> 01:06:52,253
Speaker 3: And where are you at in your electrical trader? You qualified? Now?

1509
01:06:52,493 --> 01:06:55,373
Speaker 3: Oh what time did you start that? So you left

1510
01:06:55,373 --> 01:06:57,653
Speaker 3: school bang on seventeen and got straight into it? And

1511
01:06:57,773 --> 01:06:58,413
Speaker 3: is it four years?

1512
01:06:58,413 --> 01:06:58,773
Speaker 11: I take it?

1513
01:06:59,453 --> 01:06:59,533
Speaker 14: Ye?

1514
01:07:00,613 --> 01:07:01,333
Speaker 10: Over three years.

1515
01:07:02,053 --> 01:07:05,853
Speaker 36: I actually did the course. It was my first three

1516
01:07:05,933 --> 01:07:09,693
Speaker 36: year and banged off a year and a half of

1517
01:07:09,693 --> 01:07:10,453
Speaker 36: your apprenticeship.

1518
01:07:12,333 --> 01:07:14,093
Speaker 5: Tell you what, Dylan, you're in a good spot. You're

1519
01:07:14,093 --> 01:07:16,413
Speaker 5: twenty one, You're a fully qualified electrician.

1520
01:07:16,613 --> 01:07:17,693
Speaker 6: I've got a question for you.

1521
01:07:17,773 --> 01:07:19,693
Speaker 5: Are electricians the smartest trades?

1522
01:07:22,213 --> 01:07:23,813
Speaker 36: I wouldn't say yes. I wouldn't say no.

1523
01:07:26,453 --> 01:07:26,653
Speaker 26: Yes.

1524
01:07:26,693 --> 01:07:28,213
Speaker 6: Would you say who's the dumbert trades?

1525
01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:30,293
Speaker 12: Uh?

1526
01:07:31,413 --> 01:07:32,093
Speaker 36: Probably the later?

1527
01:07:32,333 --> 01:07:32,573
Speaker 26: Theah?

1528
01:07:33,693 --> 01:07:36,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, do you get on with the jib stoppers.

1529
01:07:37,973 --> 01:07:40,213
Speaker 36: When they don't cover your jib when you when they

1530
01:07:40,213 --> 01:07:41,653
Speaker 36: don't cover your box.

1531
01:07:41,733 --> 01:07:41,933
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1532
01:07:42,133 --> 01:07:43,213
Speaker 10: Other than that, yep, yep.

1533
01:07:43,693 --> 01:07:46,693
Speaker 5: What about? What do you say to allegations that electricians

1534
01:07:46,733 --> 01:07:49,493
Speaker 5: are elitists? They come and they leave all their bits around.

1535
01:07:49,653 --> 01:07:52,173
Speaker 5: There's there's wires left everywhere, and they just rock out

1536
01:07:52,173 --> 01:07:52,453
Speaker 5: of there.

1537
01:07:53,693 --> 01:07:56,373
Speaker 36: I think that used to be a big thing back

1538
01:07:56,413 --> 01:07:59,493
Speaker 36: in the day, but I think since everybody gives so

1539
01:07:59,613 --> 01:08:04,773
Speaker 36: much shit to electricians, that doesn't necessarily happen anymore. Usually

1540
01:08:04,773 --> 01:08:09,133
Speaker 36: websites are putty onto it too. They Yeah, see wire

1541
01:08:09,413 --> 01:08:13,973
Speaker 36: laying around, go straight up to the until mess up exactly.

1542
01:08:14,053 --> 01:08:14,933
Speaker 3: Dylan, you're a good man.

1543
01:08:15,093 --> 01:08:16,452
Speaker 6: Thanks so much for you called Dylan.

1544
01:08:17,532 --> 01:08:19,173
Speaker 3: Have we got time for carry? Yes? We do. Hey

1545
01:08:19,173 --> 01:08:22,692
Speaker 3: you Carrie, Hi, how are you good? What's your take

1546
01:08:22,733 --> 01:08:23,333
Speaker 3: on the gap year?

1547
01:08:24,772 --> 01:08:28,412
Speaker 20: I think it is absolutely great because not all children

1548
01:08:28,572 --> 01:08:31,972
Speaker 20: at that age know what they want to do. So

1549
01:08:32,333 --> 01:08:37,013
Speaker 20: my own personal sensory, I have two children currently at university.

1550
01:08:38,452 --> 01:08:41,613
Speaker 20: Both of them have gone straight from school to university.

1551
01:08:42,973 --> 01:08:45,012
Speaker 20: They have had sort of, in some ways a little

1552
01:08:45,053 --> 01:08:49,612
Speaker 20: bit of an interesting journey, especially my youngest, who gipped

1553
01:08:49,652 --> 01:08:53,053
Speaker 20: the year then in her final year thought she was

1554
01:08:53,213 --> 01:08:57,772
Speaker 20: smart and didn't quite get enough for nca Level three,

1555
01:08:58,692 --> 01:09:01,213
Speaker 20: at which point I then sat her down and had

1556
01:09:01,253 --> 01:09:05,692
Speaker 20: a conversation with her and laid out her options of

1557
01:09:05,893 --> 01:09:10,213
Speaker 20: where to now. She made the decision to go and

1558
01:09:10,253 --> 01:09:14,972
Speaker 20: do the CUP course, which is the Certificate University Preperdness course.

1559
01:09:15,372 --> 01:09:18,333
Speaker 20: It was a six month course. She went and did that,

1560
01:09:19,253 --> 01:09:22,812
Speaker 20: walked away with that from it with a bursary because

1561
01:09:22,893 --> 01:09:25,652
Speaker 20: your agrees were good enough. She've got a bursary and

1562
01:09:25,692 --> 01:09:28,572
Speaker 20: then she's gone straight into her degree. But I did

1563
01:09:28,572 --> 01:09:31,333
Speaker 20: also suggest her a bit of a gap. Yes, you know,

1564
01:09:31,452 --> 01:09:34,173
Speaker 20: go back to school, do six months at school, get

1565
01:09:34,173 --> 01:09:37,133
Speaker 20: the rest of the NCAA credits, and then been six

1566
01:09:37,173 --> 01:09:41,253
Speaker 20: months working, living life, et cetera. But she wanted to

1567
01:09:41,293 --> 01:09:46,052
Speaker 20: do that, and she's at university now and absolutely excel

1568
01:09:46,053 --> 01:09:51,293
Speaker 20: at this can He failed NCAA level three is getting a's,

1569
01:09:51,973 --> 01:09:57,772
Speaker 20: B plus's those type marks doing fantastic, and so was

1570
01:09:57,812 --> 01:10:01,013
Speaker 20: the oldest. So they it was the right choice for

1571
01:10:01,053 --> 01:10:03,532
Speaker 20: the end. The oldest knew exactly what she wanted to do.

1572
01:10:03,652 --> 01:10:07,932
Speaker 20: The youngest was for several years adamant what she wanted

1573
01:10:07,973 --> 01:10:12,372
Speaker 20: to do. And going straight into university it's a different

1574
01:10:12,452 --> 01:10:17,933
Speaker 20: environment to school, and I've seen my children absolutely.

1575
01:10:17,372 --> 01:10:20,772
Speaker 3: Thrive fantastic And Kerry, I mean, as you mentioned they

1576
01:10:20,933 --> 01:10:24,412
Speaker 3: your daughter or both daughters knew what they wanted to do.

1577
01:10:24,492 --> 01:10:26,692
Speaker 3: Did that give you the confidence to say, you know

1578
01:10:26,732 --> 01:10:28,452
Speaker 3: what you need to do and you go out there

1579
01:10:28,452 --> 01:10:29,932
Speaker 3: and do it in an old back you Yes.

1580
01:10:30,213 --> 01:10:32,412
Speaker 20: And I was also very supportive, and more so with

1581
01:10:32,492 --> 01:10:35,772
Speaker 20: the youngest because she was I did wonder if she

1582
01:10:35,853 --> 01:10:39,173
Speaker 20: needed a bit more time, and I was actually trying

1583
01:10:39,213 --> 01:10:41,452
Speaker 20: to be very supportive of her. But if you wanted

1584
01:10:41,492 --> 01:10:43,892
Speaker 20: to take gap year, that's fine, if you want to

1585
01:10:43,933 --> 01:10:47,732
Speaker 20: do that. They had a cousin who did two year,

1586
01:10:47,853 --> 01:10:50,492
Speaker 20: yet gap year, wasn't one hundred percent sure what she

1587
01:10:50,572 --> 01:10:53,012
Speaker 20: wanted to do. She took a two year gap year

1588
01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:57,772
Speaker 20: and then went and studied down in Wellington. Yep, my

1589
01:10:57,893 --> 01:11:02,933
Speaker 20: oldest daughter, her best friend from school who wanted to

1590
01:11:02,933 --> 01:11:05,932
Speaker 20: be a teacher, has taken gap year, which ends up

1591
01:11:06,532 --> 01:11:12,572
Speaker 20: into a two year gap year out there living life.

1592
01:11:12,853 --> 01:11:15,053
Speaker 20: Has gone and worked in Austronia for a bit as

1593
01:11:15,093 --> 01:11:19,452
Speaker 20: a manny and is absolutely just loving living life right now.

1594
01:11:19,812 --> 01:11:22,412
Speaker 3: You're great, Carrie. I love those stories. Did you take

1595
01:11:22,412 --> 01:11:23,892
Speaker 3: a game yourself? Sorry?

1596
01:11:24,013 --> 01:11:26,852
Speaker 20: Sorry to jump down I never got I never went

1597
01:11:26,893 --> 01:11:29,893
Speaker 20: to university. I went straight to work before at the

1598
01:11:29,933 --> 01:11:34,532
Speaker 20: age seventeen, I was working. You know, I think a

1599
01:11:34,572 --> 01:11:37,772
Speaker 20: lot of it depends on the child, it really does.

1600
01:11:38,013 --> 01:11:40,372
Speaker 20: I mean, my best friend right now is battling with

1601
01:11:40,492 --> 01:11:44,812
Speaker 20: her boy who's just finishing up year twelve, hasn't got

1602
01:11:44,812 --> 01:11:47,893
Speaker 20: the grades really that he needs be for even year thirteen,

1603
01:11:48,133 --> 01:11:50,812
Speaker 20: and he's kind of going, I have no idea what

1604
01:11:50,853 --> 01:11:55,372
Speaker 20: I want to do. He has absolutely no idea what

1605
01:11:55,412 --> 01:11:56,333
Speaker 20: he wants to do.

1606
01:11:56,732 --> 01:11:58,812
Speaker 3: It's a lot of pressure for kids who don't know

1607
01:11:59,173 --> 01:12:01,652
Speaker 3: what they want to do after leaving school. And you

1608
01:12:01,692 --> 01:12:04,692
Speaker 3: know clearly that pressure is still there, Carrie, for kids

1609
01:12:04,692 --> 01:12:07,612
Speaker 3: that think they have to go to university or dutiury.

1610
01:12:07,893 --> 01:12:09,852
Speaker 3: But so glad to hear your daughters knew what they

1611
01:12:09,853 --> 01:12:11,972
Speaker 3: wanted to do, took that gap here and now they're thriving.

1612
01:12:12,053 --> 01:12:15,092
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Uh, Nick, how you doing.

1613
01:12:16,452 --> 01:12:16,572
Speaker 12: There?

1614
01:12:16,612 --> 01:12:17,772
Speaker 3: You go very good?

1615
01:12:17,772 --> 01:12:22,092
Speaker 15: On this Thursday, mate, I'm just popping over to Cambridge

1616
01:12:22,093 --> 01:12:25,173
Speaker 15: from Hamilton for my vocal lessons, so it was an

1617
01:12:25,173 --> 01:12:27,173
Speaker 15: interesting topic. I thought i'd give you guys a call

1618
01:12:28,213 --> 01:12:28,532
Speaker 15: the vocal.

1619
01:12:29,293 --> 01:12:32,053
Speaker 5: You're a singer, Nick, Oh, I'm I'm in.

1620
01:12:31,973 --> 01:12:36,253
Speaker 15: A local band in Hamilton, and it's sometimes I think

1621
01:12:36,253 --> 01:12:38,692
Speaker 15: it's worth seven of your vocal lessons just to get

1622
01:12:38,732 --> 01:12:40,812
Speaker 15: myself on on track, keep myself sharp.

1623
01:12:40,933 --> 01:12:43,532
Speaker 6: So you're playing originals or covers? Nick?

1624
01:12:43,893 --> 01:12:47,253
Speaker 15: Oh, it's mainly covers. Yeah, I've written a few originals,

1625
01:12:47,253 --> 01:12:47,732
Speaker 15: but they're.

1626
01:12:47,612 --> 01:12:49,932
Speaker 6: A bit what's the what's the band's name.

1627
01:12:49,893 --> 01:12:53,492
Speaker 15: Nick, it's called the Unfold Scene.

1628
01:12:53,572 --> 01:12:56,293
Speaker 3: Good name? And what's music? What sort of covers do

1629
01:12:56,293 --> 01:12:56,492
Speaker 3: you do?

1630
01:12:57,053 --> 01:12:57,253
Speaker 10: Oh?

1631
01:12:57,492 --> 01:12:58,652
Speaker 15: Look at everything?

1632
01:12:58,772 --> 01:12:59,333
Speaker 25: So a little bit.

1633
01:12:59,372 --> 01:13:02,052
Speaker 15: It's even teeth rock. I don't really like the eighties

1634
01:13:03,372 --> 01:13:06,612
Speaker 15: glam rock stuff. I'm throw more of a kid Kennedy.

1635
01:13:06,893 --> 01:13:10,492
Speaker 3: A bit of punk or yeah, what about a bit

1636
01:13:10,532 --> 01:13:11,452
Speaker 3: a c cr.

1637
01:13:12,253 --> 01:13:15,213
Speaker 15: Oh's funny you say that, because I've actually just been

1638
01:13:16,093 --> 01:13:17,973
Speaker 15: learning the Courts of Green River today, which is a

1639
01:13:17,973 --> 01:13:18,652
Speaker 15: great trait.

1640
01:13:18,572 --> 01:13:21,293
Speaker 3: To John Foggery. That's a hard person to replicate in

1641
01:13:21,372 --> 01:13:22,333
Speaker 3: terms of a singing voice.

1642
01:13:23,372 --> 01:13:25,812
Speaker 15: It is, so you don't try and replicating. You've just

1643
01:13:25,853 --> 01:13:28,213
Speaker 15: got to make sure if you're in the same range

1644
01:13:28,452 --> 01:13:29,612
Speaker 15: and and just do.

1645
01:13:29,732 --> 01:13:32,372
Speaker 6: Your thing is not easy to do either.

1646
01:13:33,732 --> 01:13:36,452
Speaker 25: No holiday in Gamebo.

1647
01:13:38,372 --> 01:13:43,572
Speaker 5: In California, OBErs great songs. What sort of places do

1648
01:13:43,612 --> 01:13:45,772
Speaker 5: you play? We've gone off topic here because it's interested

1649
01:13:45,812 --> 01:13:46,333
Speaker 5: about your bear.

1650
01:13:47,412 --> 01:13:51,492
Speaker 15: Yeah, so playing it's a local Irish pub Hamilton called

1651
01:13:51,492 --> 01:13:55,293
Speaker 15: Biddy Mulligan. So we played here and and we're actually

1652
01:13:55,293 --> 01:13:58,133
Speaker 15: playing Saturday night, playing at a bar called the Patron's Bar,

1653
01:13:58,333 --> 01:14:01,093
Speaker 15: which is t You got a really neck caage set

1654
01:14:01,173 --> 01:14:05,372
Speaker 15: up as well for a little bit, a little bit

1655
01:14:06,093 --> 01:14:08,053
Speaker 15: moments with crowds and people not for.

1656
01:14:08,532 --> 01:14:15,133
Speaker 5: Well, well, get get along and support get along.

1657
01:14:15,812 --> 01:14:18,612
Speaker 15: Yeah, he look, I was just I was interested in

1658
01:14:18,973 --> 01:14:22,612
Speaker 15: the topic. So so I'm actually geo technical engineer sort

1659
01:14:22,652 --> 01:14:24,692
Speaker 15: of work in Hamilton. I'm I'm actually doing a post

1660
01:14:24,732 --> 01:14:26,692
Speaker 15: grade the Plumber of psychology at the moment too, because

1661
01:14:26,692 --> 01:14:29,093
Speaker 15: I've sort of become a little bit more interested in

1662
01:14:29,372 --> 01:14:33,412
Speaker 15: people in behavior other than than things, and which is

1663
01:14:33,452 --> 01:14:37,213
Speaker 15: sort of an interesting concept. But but I I sort

1664
01:14:37,213 --> 01:14:39,692
Speaker 15: of grew So my old group and teams are in

1665
01:14:39,772 --> 01:14:42,692
Speaker 15: the Coromandel where and my old man was actually needs

1666
01:14:42,812 --> 01:14:46,412
Speaker 15: ex French fore allegiant combat soldier and he wasn't a

1667
01:14:46,452 --> 01:14:49,572
Speaker 15: key we so I grew up pretty tough and he

1668
01:14:49,973 --> 01:14:54,612
Speaker 15: was pretty pretty rugged, to be honest, and so I

1669
01:14:54,732 --> 01:14:56,452
Speaker 15: had a bit of a hat. I got knocked around

1670
01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:58,333
Speaker 15: a bit, and there was other things sort of browing

1671
01:14:58,412 --> 01:15:01,253
Speaker 15: up in the eighties and teams. It was a hard town,

1672
01:15:01,732 --> 01:15:05,612
Speaker 15: you know as well. I was very academic, but I

1673
01:15:05,812 --> 01:15:09,852
Speaker 15: just had a of conduct, sort of antisocial.

1674
01:15:09,333 --> 01:15:09,933
Speaker 10: Stuff going on.

1675
01:15:10,772 --> 01:15:13,892
Speaker 15: By the time I've passed my book was system certificate

1676
01:15:14,013 --> 01:15:17,133
Speaker 15: at the time, quite happily, but I, you know, I

1677
01:15:17,293 --> 01:15:19,492
Speaker 15: was just scrapping all the time, and I ended up

1678
01:15:19,532 --> 01:15:20,572
Speaker 15: having to leave school.

1679
01:15:20,652 --> 01:15:21,492
Speaker 12: I just had to.

1680
01:15:23,093 --> 01:15:24,652
Speaker 15: So left for a couple of years, went back and

1681
01:15:24,732 --> 01:15:28,133
Speaker 15: then did sort of did sixth and sixth form and

1682
01:15:29,372 --> 01:15:32,612
Speaker 15: seven form as well. I didn't sort of really get

1683
01:15:32,772 --> 01:15:36,253
Speaker 15: Universe entrance. It's just on the cusp of of get

1684
01:15:36,452 --> 01:15:39,133
Speaker 15: the whole yea thing, and I sort of quite I've

1685
01:15:39,133 --> 01:15:41,532
Speaker 15: sort of forgot what happened, but I ended up I

1686
01:15:41,652 --> 01:15:44,973
Speaker 15: was sort of had quite a few emotional issues. I

1687
01:15:45,093 --> 01:15:46,973
Speaker 15: got best and I was sort of working in the

1688
01:15:47,053 --> 01:15:50,333
Speaker 15: local meatworks and one of the young guys the sort

1689
01:15:50,372 --> 01:15:52,892
Speaker 15: of said to me, well, you're a pretty smart guy

1690
01:15:53,053 --> 01:15:55,013
Speaker 15: the way you talk and so forth, and you had

1691
01:15:55,053 --> 01:15:57,093
Speaker 15: to hit yourself off the yearni. I was actually on

1692
01:15:57,253 --> 01:16:01,532
Speaker 15: probation at the time, and I sort of for you know,

1693
01:16:01,812 --> 01:16:04,253
Speaker 15: some silly stuff, and as soon as my probation finished,

1694
01:16:04,253 --> 01:16:08,093
Speaker 15: I just picked my bags up and just said said

1695
01:16:08,372 --> 01:16:11,612
Speaker 15: sorry to mum. Leaving Bloody went straight off to Hamilton

1696
01:16:11,692 --> 01:16:15,572
Speaker 15: and enrolled at ko Yeunie and I basically had to

1697
01:16:15,692 --> 01:16:18,492
Speaker 15: plead with the the the square of study because I

1698
01:16:18,492 --> 01:16:22,652
Speaker 15: didn't actually you know, the qualitation go to union at

1699
01:16:22,692 --> 01:16:25,973
Speaker 15: that time. And you know, you've just just bleed my

1700
01:16:26,013 --> 01:16:27,452
Speaker 15: heart and said, look, you've got to You've got to

1701
01:16:27,492 --> 01:16:30,772
Speaker 15: let me in, you know, I just and I ended

1702
01:16:30,853 --> 01:16:33,852
Speaker 15: up rolling and I sort of got accepted and enrolled

1703
01:16:33,853 --> 01:16:37,013
Speaker 15: in a faculty of their sciences. So I started a

1704
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:40,452
Speaker 15: scientists and engineering. But you know, at that time I

1705
01:16:40,692 --> 01:16:43,333
Speaker 15: was sort of that twenty two twenty three. Then I

1706
01:16:43,412 --> 01:16:46,412
Speaker 15: sort of remember my first, my very first lecture in

1707
01:16:46,692 --> 01:16:50,412
Speaker 15: engineering one O one, and I just felt this relief,

1708
01:16:50,612 --> 01:16:53,572
Speaker 15: this weight lifted off my shoulders that this is where

1709
01:16:53,652 --> 01:16:54,612
Speaker 15: I'm supposed.

1710
01:16:54,253 --> 01:16:56,652
Speaker 5: To be, so so that that that gap was the

1711
01:16:56,812 --> 01:16:58,732
Speaker 5: perfect for you and you found it out. Sorry, we've

1712
01:16:58,772 --> 01:17:00,372
Speaker 5: just got got to move on because we're running out

1713
01:17:00,372 --> 01:17:00,652
Speaker 5: of time.

1714
01:17:00,692 --> 01:17:01,852
Speaker 3: How much life you've lived there.

1715
01:17:01,933 --> 01:17:03,852
Speaker 5: But before you go, nick name of the band and

1716
01:17:03,853 --> 01:17:05,253
Speaker 5: when you're play where you're playing on Saturday.

1717
01:17:06,293 --> 01:17:10,173
Speaker 15: Oh so it's the Unforeseene. It's called spelt sc and

1718
01:17:10,253 --> 01:17:13,732
Speaker 15: e we're playing at the Patrons by Hamilton at seven

1719
01:17:13,853 --> 01:17:15,173
Speaker 15: thirty on Saturday night.

1720
01:17:15,293 --> 01:17:17,692
Speaker 3: Brill, good long, love it, Thank you very much. Nick.

1721
01:17:17,772 --> 01:17:19,253
Speaker 3: It is seven minutes to three.

1722
01:17:20,853 --> 01:17:23,213
Speaker 8: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1723
01:17:23,293 --> 01:17:23,892
Speaker 8: along the way.

1724
01:17:24,133 --> 01:17:27,612
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

1725
01:17:27,692 --> 01:17:29,173
Speaker 1: four you talk SEDB.

1726
01:17:30,692 --> 01:17:31,653
Speaker 5: News TALKSB.

1727
01:17:31,812 --> 01:17:35,013
Speaker 3: It's five to three. Man, it's very exciting because the

1728
01:17:35,133 --> 01:17:37,293
Speaker 3: dog go at the baseball. Like just before you give

1729
01:17:37,333 --> 01:17:39,612
Speaker 3: an update, we'll get heavy and get a hemmy, we've

1730
01:17:39,612 --> 01:17:41,212
Speaker 3: got about sixty seconds, my friend.

1731
01:17:42,173 --> 01:17:46,852
Speaker 11: Here, buddy, Yeah, on fortually, I didn't do a JAP year,

1732
01:17:47,612 --> 01:17:50,372
Speaker 11: But I didn't think I did a DIEP year because

1733
01:17:50,412 --> 01:17:56,692
Speaker 11: I I went to work at fourteen and I didn't

1734
01:17:56,732 --> 01:17:59,213
Speaker 11: go to school yep, for a whole year. And I

1735
01:17:59,293 --> 01:18:03,372
Speaker 11: worked because my parents both worked. But we had I

1736
01:18:03,452 --> 01:18:06,012
Speaker 11: had five brothers and two sisters and a grandfather staying

1737
01:18:06,013 --> 01:18:08,932
Speaker 11: their name. Yeah, and I watched them straight back.

1738
01:18:08,772 --> 01:18:09,173
Speaker 10: In the day.

1739
01:18:10,612 --> 01:18:12,173
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you did what you needed to do that

1740
01:18:12,253 --> 01:18:14,013
Speaker 3: at that point. Here me, but your daughters asked to

1741
01:18:14,053 --> 01:18:16,253
Speaker 3: do a gap year. Are you happy for.

1742
01:18:16,293 --> 01:18:16,772
Speaker 25: Her to do that?

1743
01:18:18,253 --> 01:18:21,452
Speaker 11: And then when growing up she I have my daughter

1744
01:18:21,692 --> 01:18:25,572
Speaker 11: and she did she did good that at school. Then

1745
01:18:26,412 --> 01:18:28,973
Speaker 11: she asked me, well, gap year and most yeap, what

1746
01:18:29,133 --> 01:18:32,053
Speaker 11: you going to do? And she said, oh I name

1747
01:18:32,053 --> 01:18:34,772
Speaker 11: you said, you're not going to stay home. I'll get

1748
01:18:34,772 --> 01:18:36,972
Speaker 11: you a job with me because I work at Frontier.

1749
01:18:37,253 --> 01:18:37,452
Speaker 12: Yep.

1750
01:18:37,612 --> 01:18:38,452
Speaker 3: And she's going to do that.

1751
01:18:40,093 --> 01:18:42,532
Speaker 11: Oh, she did that for the whole year. The first

1752
01:18:42,572 --> 01:18:44,932
Speaker 11: place she got. She goes, hey, look.

1753
01:18:44,772 --> 01:18:48,372
Speaker 3: At this, and she was shot how much money she had?

1754
01:18:48,452 --> 01:18:50,572
Speaker 3: Good times, hear me. I wish we had longer, but

1755
01:18:50,732 --> 01:18:54,293
Speaker 3: the news is hot on our tale. After three o'clock

1756
01:18:54,293 --> 01:18:56,133
Speaker 3: we're going to be talking Halloween.

1757
01:18:56,853 --> 01:18:57,412
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.

1758
01:18:57,452 --> 01:18:59,852
Speaker 5: I'm excited. I love Halloween. Do you do you celebrate it?

1759
01:19:01,652 --> 01:19:04,812
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heath and Tyler

1760
01:19:04,853 --> 01:19:07,652
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

1761
01:19:09,933 --> 01:19:13,093
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Saw a lot of excitement in

1762
01:19:13,173 --> 01:19:15,732
Speaker 3: the studio over the past fifteen minutes, and it is

1763
01:19:15,772 --> 01:19:16,692
Speaker 3: related to baseball.

1764
01:19:16,812 --> 01:19:21,052
Speaker 5: How dare you, Tyler? I'm watching, I'm watching the text machine,

1765
01:19:21,173 --> 01:19:23,412
Speaker 5: the phones and you, and I'm very concentrated on the

1766
01:19:23,452 --> 01:19:26,293
Speaker 5: show and I don't have any interest in this incredibly

1767
01:19:26,372 --> 01:19:31,092
Speaker 5: exciting game happening at Yankee Stadium, Dodgers. My beloved Dodgers

1768
01:19:31,412 --> 01:19:34,532
Speaker 5: in the World Series, up three to one. They were

1769
01:19:34,612 --> 01:19:36,372
Speaker 5: down up three to one in the series, they were

1770
01:19:36,412 --> 01:19:39,493
Speaker 5: down five nothing in the game, and then an incredible

1771
01:19:40,053 --> 01:19:42,293
Speaker 5: rally on an era by Cole. I'm going to say

1772
01:19:42,293 --> 01:19:43,932
Speaker 5: the picture didn't run over Anyoay, let's not get into

1773
01:19:43,933 --> 01:19:46,812
Speaker 5: the technical details. Yeah, yeah, that is an incredibly exciting game.

1774
01:19:47,173 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 5: It's now five to five. And look, if the Dodgers

1775
01:19:50,652 --> 01:19:53,733
Speaker 5: win this game, we're at the where at the top

1776
01:19:53,772 --> 01:19:55,093
Speaker 5: of the fifth Now, if the Dodgers win this game,

1777
01:19:55,093 --> 01:19:55,972
Speaker 5: they win the World Series.

1778
01:19:56,213 --> 01:19:57,772
Speaker 6: It couldn't be more exciting right now.

1779
01:19:57,812 --> 01:20:00,052
Speaker 3: But you were saying before you hope they lose, because

1780
01:20:00,133 --> 01:20:02,692
Speaker 3: then they've got a away day. Then they've got the

1781
01:20:02,772 --> 01:20:05,173
Speaker 3: final game back in LA and that's a Saturday, and

1782
01:20:05,293 --> 01:20:06,213
Speaker 3: you can be on your count.

1783
01:20:06,293 --> 01:20:08,133
Speaker 5: Well, when I said I hope they lose, I don't

1784
01:20:08,133 --> 01:20:09,852
Speaker 5: want to say that I would love them to win now,

1785
01:20:10,053 --> 01:20:12,532
Speaker 5: but I was trying to It was sort of happiness insurance.

1786
01:20:12,612 --> 01:20:14,932
Speaker 5: I was saying, if they don't win today, at least

1787
01:20:14,933 --> 01:20:16,452
Speaker 5: I'll get to watch it live because I won't be

1788
01:20:16,532 --> 01:20:18,732
Speaker 5: on the radio. I'll be at home with a bunch

1789
01:20:18,772 --> 01:20:20,973
Speaker 5: of mates watching it on the couch and it'll be

1790
01:20:21,093 --> 01:20:22,093
Speaker 5: a win in LA.

1791
01:20:22,572 --> 01:20:23,052
Speaker 6: Hopefully.

1792
01:20:23,333 --> 01:20:25,013
Speaker 5: I sound like I'm jinxing the whole thing if you

1793
01:20:25,093 --> 01:20:28,213
Speaker 5: can jinx it from ten thousand kilometers away, bit, but

1794
01:20:29,093 --> 01:20:30,612
Speaker 5: it would be It would be quite something to win

1795
01:20:30,612 --> 01:20:32,812
Speaker 5: the World Sorry Series at home in La because the

1796
01:20:32,893 --> 01:20:36,053
Speaker 5: Dodgers are beloved in La. Their rival the Lakers for

1797
01:20:36,133 --> 01:20:37,333
Speaker 5: the most important team in La.

1798
01:20:37,492 --> 01:20:40,293
Speaker 3: I love happiness insurance. Great phrase. Now, just before we

1799
01:20:40,333 --> 01:20:42,053
Speaker 3: get on too Halloween, I just wanted to read out

1800
01:20:42,053 --> 01:20:44,652
Speaker 3: the sticks that came through on the Gap year Kidday. Guys.

1801
01:20:44,732 --> 01:20:47,372
Speaker 3: I had to pull over, as this is a brilliant topic,

1802
01:20:47,492 --> 01:20:50,053
Speaker 3: gap year. I have a seventeen year old son. This

1803
01:20:50,213 --> 01:20:52,093
Speaker 3: is his last year and we were all set for

1804
01:20:52,173 --> 01:20:53,852
Speaker 3: him to go to UNI next year. But now have

1805
01:20:54,013 --> 01:20:57,732
Speaker 3: asked us parents to have a gap year. He asked

1806
01:20:57,732 --> 01:21:00,692
Speaker 3: with such motivation that I'm so proud of them. He said,

1807
01:21:00,732 --> 01:21:02,293
Speaker 3: I want to find my way in this world, as

1808
01:21:02,333 --> 01:21:04,093
Speaker 3: I don't know what I want to do yet. It

1809
01:21:04,253 --> 01:21:07,532
Speaker 3: was always set that his past passion was flying, so

1810
01:21:07,692 --> 01:21:10,173
Speaker 3: aviation messy was set. Now he wants to see what

1811
01:21:10,293 --> 01:21:12,372
Speaker 3: else is out there for him, so we said, yes,

1812
01:21:12,532 --> 01:21:15,053
Speaker 3: he can have a gap year. Love listening to you guys,

1813
01:21:15,133 --> 01:21:15,932
Speaker 3: what a great tech sir.

1814
01:21:16,333 --> 01:21:16,492
Speaker 30: Yeah.

1815
01:21:16,612 --> 01:21:19,572
Speaker 5: Wow. So if your kid comes to you and passionately

1816
01:21:19,612 --> 01:21:23,293
Speaker 5: says that with such reason and conviction that they want

1817
01:21:23,293 --> 01:21:25,092
Speaker 5: to have a gap year for those reasons, then.

1818
01:21:24,973 --> 01:21:26,093
Speaker 6: You would be proud, wouldn't you.

1819
01:21:26,293 --> 01:21:29,452
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they know what they're doing. That's wise beyond

1820
01:21:29,492 --> 01:21:31,852
Speaker 5: your years. So my son's on the same thing. He

1821
01:21:31,933 --> 01:21:33,812
Speaker 5: said he wants to have a gap year this year

1822
01:21:33,812 --> 01:21:35,053
Speaker 5: because he's not sure what to do. He was on

1823
01:21:35,133 --> 01:21:40,412
Speaker 5: a path to quite a heavy career and heavy degree,

1824
01:21:40,652 --> 01:21:42,452
Speaker 5: and he said, no, I need to take a gap

1825
01:21:42,532 --> 01:21:43,972
Speaker 5: year because I'm not sure if I feel the same

1826
01:21:44,013 --> 01:21:45,812
Speaker 5: way as I did when I was fifteen about what

1827
01:21:45,893 --> 01:21:49,093
Speaker 5: I want to do with my life. And I felt

1828
01:21:49,133 --> 01:21:51,492
Speaker 5: proud as well. But if he sits on the couch,

1829
01:21:51,532 --> 01:21:53,772
Speaker 5: then I won't feel proud. He's he's got to get

1830
01:21:53,812 --> 01:21:55,772
Speaker 5: out there and use that gap year to follow a

1831
01:21:55,812 --> 01:21:58,652
Speaker 5: passion or find out what the real world's like.

1832
01:21:58,812 --> 01:22:00,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, great discussion, But we are going to chat about

1833
01:22:00,893 --> 01:22:03,892
Speaker 3: Halloween because it is Halloween today in New Zealand.

1834
01:22:04,013 --> 01:22:08,093
Speaker 37: How terrifying, how terrifying, spooky. Look at it out there

1835
01:22:08,333 --> 01:22:09,972
Speaker 37: and it is, Well, it's one of those things. It's

1836
01:22:09,973 --> 01:22:11,852
Speaker 37: one of those holidays that was a slow burn in

1837
01:22:11,893 --> 01:22:15,853
Speaker 37: New Zealand culture, but now we have embraced it wholeheartedly.

1838
01:22:16,053 --> 01:22:20,412
Speaker 3: Most how Hallow holiday, Yeah, I'd love to have Hallow.

1839
01:22:20,532 --> 01:22:22,092
Speaker 3: So they have Halloween off in America.

1840
01:22:22,173 --> 01:22:25,852
Speaker 6: No, it's a celebration as opposed to holiday.

1841
01:22:25,893 --> 01:22:28,572
Speaker 3: But yeah, but I have been surprised by the wrap

1842
01:22:28,652 --> 01:22:32,133
Speaker 3: it up take in New Zealanders getting behind Halloween. So

1843
01:22:32,213 --> 01:22:34,293
Speaker 3: they get the costumes. It's a good day for Kmart

1844
01:22:34,293 --> 01:22:36,772
Speaker 3: in the warehouse. They of Halloween because they sell a

1845
01:22:36,853 --> 01:22:37,653
Speaker 3: lot of stuff.

1846
01:22:37,452 --> 01:22:38,892
Speaker 5: And look sharp and look sharp.

1847
01:22:38,933 --> 01:22:41,732
Speaker 3: But they get into the costumes and they put the candy,

1848
01:22:41,812 --> 01:22:43,892
Speaker 3: the lollies out. Candy is a very American term, put

1849
01:22:43,893 --> 01:22:47,173
Speaker 3: the lollies out for the kids. And I don't know

1850
01:22:47,173 --> 01:22:49,253
Speaker 3: if I was a hallw Halloween grinch. I just didn't

1851
01:22:49,253 --> 01:22:51,572
Speaker 3: really get into it. We don't have kids ourselves yet,

1852
01:22:52,213 --> 01:22:54,532
Speaker 3: and I didn't really feel the vibe. And I thought

1853
01:22:54,572 --> 01:22:56,533
Speaker 3: the trick of treaders were just a bunch of hooligans

1854
01:22:56,572 --> 01:22:58,692
Speaker 3: on the street, you know, getting into trouble. I've changed

1855
01:22:58,732 --> 01:23:00,932
Speaker 3: my mind, and tonight when I get home, we'll put

1856
01:23:00,973 --> 01:23:03,652
Speaker 3: out a wee bowl of some sort of lolly candy

1857
01:23:03,812 --> 01:23:06,293
Speaker 3: whatever it is. But I'm not going to answer the door.

1858
01:23:06,333 --> 01:23:08,972
Speaker 3: They going to put a bowl on the door. Yeah,

1859
01:23:09,452 --> 01:23:12,133
Speaker 3: and help yourself. That's what you don't enough.

1860
01:23:13,333 --> 01:23:15,213
Speaker 6: The first kids that turn up are can help themselves

1861
01:23:15,213 --> 01:23:16,012
Speaker 6: to the entire bowl.

1862
01:23:16,173 --> 01:23:17,652
Speaker 3: So be it so bad.

1863
01:23:19,013 --> 01:23:20,652
Speaker 5: Like you're feeding a dog. Just put it out in

1864
01:23:20,732 --> 01:23:21,652
Speaker 5: a bowl out the front.

1865
01:23:21,853 --> 01:23:26,933
Speaker 3: Well, I'll scatter it on the driveway. Is but you

1866
01:23:27,492 --> 01:23:28,412
Speaker 3: you do love Halloween.

1867
01:23:28,572 --> 01:23:30,852
Speaker 5: I love Halloween. I love the creativity about it. I

1868
01:23:30,893 --> 01:23:32,933
Speaker 5: don't believe that that thing where people say it's just

1869
01:23:32,973 --> 01:23:34,972
Speaker 5: an American tradition, it's not. I mean, it's it's comes

1870
01:23:35,133 --> 01:23:37,612
Speaker 5: a long way from before America. It came to America,

1871
01:23:37,652 --> 01:23:39,692
Speaker 5: it came to New Zealand. It's it's a fun thing.

1872
01:23:39,732 --> 01:23:42,572
Speaker 5: Who kids where it comes from? Anyway, I like kids

1873
01:23:42,853 --> 01:23:46,652
Speaker 5: dressing up. I like horror movies. When I was a kid,

1874
01:23:46,692 --> 01:23:48,772
Speaker 5: I went out. I was nearly adopted back in Dunedin

1875
01:23:48,893 --> 01:23:51,652
Speaker 5: of going out and trying to trickle treat back before

1876
01:23:51,732 --> 01:23:53,492
Speaker 5: no one knew what the hell was going on. How

1877
01:23:53,532 --> 01:23:54,732
Speaker 5: old were you I reckon?

1878
01:23:54,812 --> 01:23:55,293
Speaker 3: I was eight.

1879
01:23:55,732 --> 01:23:58,173
Speaker 5: I went out onto the streets of Malorti Hill and

1880
01:23:58,612 --> 01:24:00,293
Speaker 5: the first house we went to, knocked on the door,

1881
01:24:00,372 --> 01:24:04,173
Speaker 5: got taken inside by a World War two veteran who

1882
01:24:04,293 --> 01:24:07,133
Speaker 5: gave us a one hour lecture on begging. He didn't

1883
01:24:07,173 --> 01:24:09,852
Speaker 5: understand what Halloween was at all. He just thought that

1884
01:24:09,893 --> 01:24:13,012
Speaker 5: we were knocked on his door and threatened him, threatened

1885
01:24:13,093 --> 01:24:15,293
Speaker 5: him with a trek if he didn't give us lolly

1886
01:24:15,372 --> 01:24:18,012
Speaker 5: so threatened. Event he basically locked us in and lectured

1887
01:24:18,093 --> 01:24:23,412
Speaker 5: us about what degenerates we were. But since then, my

1888
01:24:23,532 --> 01:24:26,572
Speaker 5: kid's gone out trickle treating. I love the costumes. I've

1889
01:24:26,612 --> 01:24:30,492
Speaker 5: gone to Halloween parties, but nowadays, primarily what I do

1890
01:24:30,652 --> 01:24:32,652
Speaker 5: for Halloween is watch a movie. I watch a horror

1891
01:24:32,732 --> 01:24:34,852
Speaker 5: film every year. We watched one last night, but well

1892
01:24:35,372 --> 01:24:37,652
Speaker 5: we'll I'll force the kids to watch horror films with

1893
01:24:37,772 --> 01:24:40,013
Speaker 5: me and and I think that's a great way to

1894
01:24:40,093 --> 01:24:43,093
Speaker 5: celebrate Halloween. It's good getting scared. I love getting scared.

1895
01:24:43,133 --> 01:24:45,293
Speaker 3: You're gonna have another watch party tonight.

1896
01:24:45,452 --> 01:24:46,532
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred.

1897
01:24:46,812 --> 01:24:47,692
Speaker 3: Do you know what you're gonna watch it?

1898
01:24:48,372 --> 01:24:50,892
Speaker 5: Well, look, I've been thinking about that, and maybe at

1899
01:24:50,933 --> 01:24:53,053
Speaker 5: the end of the hour, I was thinking about going

1900
01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:56,092
Speaker 5: through some horror films of recent years, because he obviously

1901
01:24:56,173 --> 01:24:57,812
Speaker 5: is the classics, and I'd love to hear people on

1902
01:24:57,893 --> 01:24:58,812
Speaker 5: our eight hundred Hodechi.

1903
01:24:59,893 --> 01:25:02,452
Speaker 6: I did it for the first time there. It is funny.

1904
01:25:02,652 --> 01:25:09,412
Speaker 5: At some point I'd say, Waite hundred hodew eight, I'm going.

1905
01:25:09,372 --> 01:25:10,013
Speaker 3: To be happy with you.

1906
01:25:10,372 --> 01:25:12,732
Speaker 5: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

1907
01:25:12,893 --> 01:25:16,572
Speaker 6: Well, I believe that took my fourth week before I said.

1908
01:25:16,532 --> 01:25:19,333
Speaker 5: The cameras remember from my last job, welcome to the

1909
01:25:19,372 --> 01:25:23,133
Speaker 5: first floor, mat Yeah, suggestions for horror movies and what

1910
01:25:23,253 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 5: are the greatest horror movies of all time?

1911
01:25:24,692 --> 01:25:26,093
Speaker 6: Like to talk about that? And how do you sell

1912
01:25:26,093 --> 01:25:27,732
Speaker 6: about Halloween? And are you for it?

1913
01:25:27,893 --> 01:25:28,572
Speaker 5: Or are you again it?

1914
01:25:28,692 --> 01:25:30,213
Speaker 3: Are you going to put lollies out for the kids?

1915
01:25:31,053 --> 01:25:33,452
Speaker 5: Well, I kind of live in an interesting situation now

1916
01:25:33,572 --> 01:25:38,053
Speaker 5: since my life changed. Back in the old house was

1917
01:25:38,173 --> 01:25:39,772
Speaker 5: it was easy to do because you know, we're in

1918
01:25:39,812 --> 01:25:41,532
Speaker 5: a villet, we're on a street and put it out.

1919
01:25:41,572 --> 01:25:43,772
Speaker 5: I'm sort of living an apartment building situation now, so

1920
01:25:43,812 --> 01:25:47,053
Speaker 5: it's a bit a bit more more difficult. But you know,

1921
01:25:47,173 --> 01:25:48,652
Speaker 5: if you want kids to come to your door, you

1922
01:25:48,973 --> 01:25:51,532
Speaker 5: put a few few fake cob webs on the door.

1923
01:25:51,572 --> 01:25:54,173
Speaker 5: You signal to people that people don't just go and

1924
01:25:54,253 --> 01:25:55,812
Speaker 5: knock on every door. They knock on the doors that

1925
01:25:55,893 --> 01:25:57,172
Speaker 5: signal that they want to be involved.

1926
01:25:57,333 --> 01:25:57,732
Speaker 8: Is that right?

1927
01:25:57,933 --> 01:25:59,213
Speaker 6: Yeah? That's right.

1928
01:25:59,293 --> 01:26:01,812
Speaker 5: Yeah, you put it as I feel like, I feel

1929
01:26:01,812 --> 01:26:05,852
Speaker 5: like Auckland is way more into Halloween than any other city, definitely.

1930
01:26:06,093 --> 01:26:08,253
Speaker 3: I mean down in christ the kid's just knocked on

1931
01:26:08,333 --> 01:26:10,053
Speaker 3: any door. I mean, if the gate was open, they'd

1932
01:26:10,093 --> 01:26:12,213
Speaker 3: come on through and say, you know, we're polite about it,

1933
01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:15,172
Speaker 3: Happy Halloween. And if we didn't have any canteen, we didn't,

1934
01:26:15,492 --> 01:26:17,133
Speaker 3: And I felt like a real scrooge is that we

1935
01:26:17,253 --> 01:26:19,973
Speaker 3: just didn't answer the door, close the curtain, send off

1936
01:26:19,973 --> 01:26:21,053
Speaker 3: the lights, we're not home kids.

1937
01:26:21,253 --> 01:26:23,933
Speaker 5: Well, in Auckland, it's definitely a new signal that you

1938
01:26:24,133 --> 01:26:27,053
Speaker 5: are involved. And some people go to full full lengths

1939
01:26:27,093 --> 01:26:28,732
Speaker 5: on it. There's some streets in Auckland that are very,

1940
01:26:28,973 --> 01:26:31,452
Speaker 5: very into it. There's there's a guy that's not too

1941
01:26:31,492 --> 01:26:33,932
Speaker 5: far from me that will fire up a fake chainsaw

1942
01:26:33,973 --> 01:26:36,372
Speaker 5: who takes the chain off and he'll chase kids out

1943
01:26:36,372 --> 01:26:38,932
Speaker 5: of the front yard and they do a whole plava

1944
01:26:39,013 --> 01:26:39,372
Speaker 5: around it.

1945
01:26:39,452 --> 01:26:42,692
Speaker 6: And it's fantastic. But you have to signal.

1946
01:26:43,133 --> 01:26:46,532
Speaker 5: You buy the fake cob web, you put a you

1947
01:26:46,612 --> 01:26:48,932
Speaker 5: put a fake grave in there, you run a run

1948
01:26:49,013 --> 01:26:51,532
Speaker 5: a graveyard in your front yard and people know that's

1949
01:26:51,612 --> 01:26:53,213
Speaker 5: that's a house that's given out the lollies.

1950
01:26:53,293 --> 01:26:55,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1951
01:26:55,492 --> 01:26:57,612
Speaker 3: number to call of you into Halloween. Love to hear

1952
01:26:57,652 --> 01:27:00,093
Speaker 3: from you. Nine two ninety two is the text number

1953
01:27:00,133 --> 01:27:02,732
Speaker 3: of text is more your thing. Let's go Dodges, Let's

1954
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Speaker 3: go touches. Quarter past three. News Talks there, b we're

1955
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Speaker 3: talking about the right of Halloween, the New Zealan rise

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Speaker 3: of Allowen. John, You're torn on the issue.

1957
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, you f that a little bit inspired a cool

1958
01:27:19,333 --> 01:27:22,732
Speaker 9: because I'm in the car listening to news talks. They'd

1959
01:27:22,772 --> 01:27:25,612
Speaker 9: be on a Thursday afternoon and welcome to your new

1960
01:27:25,692 --> 01:27:30,652
Speaker 9: time slot and brand fellas here the radio during Yeah,

1961
01:27:30,973 --> 01:27:32,692
Speaker 9: I don't often hear the radio during the day, but

1962
01:27:33,452 --> 01:27:36,933
Speaker 9: I have just quickly absolutely torn. I've got eleven and

1963
01:27:37,013 --> 01:27:40,532
Speaker 9: twelve year old that the southnoon, very excited and about

1964
01:27:40,532 --> 01:27:44,173
Speaker 9: the head out and dress up. Now I am torn

1965
01:27:44,253 --> 01:27:47,972
Speaker 9: because essentially, as lots of other parents, we're talking about

1966
01:27:48,013 --> 01:27:50,772
Speaker 9: a situation with Halloween where we're actually encouraging our kids

1967
01:27:50,812 --> 01:27:53,132
Speaker 9: to wander around the street and that's strangers for candy,

1968
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Speaker 9: and I just think that's Britain.

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Speaker 15: You know, not that cool.

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Speaker 9: But then the other side of it is they're really excited,

1971
01:28:00,293 --> 01:28:02,812
Speaker 9: they dress up, they're out with their mates. But I

1972
01:28:03,213 --> 01:28:05,372
Speaker 9: don't Just a bit of happened to do a bit

1973
01:28:05,412 --> 01:28:08,053
Speaker 9: of a drive by in a particular suburban christ Church

1974
01:28:08,133 --> 01:28:13,012
Speaker 9: that previous years has supported Halloween. There's lots of houses

1975
01:28:13,093 --> 01:28:15,293
Speaker 9: dressed up, so you know that that's where people go.

1976
01:28:16,093 --> 01:28:18,333
Speaker 9: I'm driven down the street that I'm will not name,

1977
01:28:19,053 --> 01:28:21,732
Speaker 9: and I could only see two houses out of the

1978
01:28:22,333 --> 01:28:24,973
Speaker 9: bundle of houses that look like they're ready could be

1979
01:28:25,133 --> 01:28:26,172
Speaker 9: invaded by children.

1980
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Speaker 3: Give us a suburb, John, give us a suburb.

1981
01:28:29,933 --> 01:28:31,812
Speaker 10: No, I won't.

1982
01:28:32,053 --> 01:28:37,092
Speaker 9: Well, it's it's near Cashmere, sort of off Columbo Street,

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Speaker 9: heading towards the hills.

1984
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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I know where you're right now. Yeah, I'm

1985
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Speaker 3: not going to name it, but I know where we're

1986
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Speaker 3: at yet.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and a particular street that has has been pretty supportive.

1988
01:28:45,492 --> 01:28:48,732
Speaker 9: But as I said, quick drive by, I don't think

1989
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Speaker 9: there was into it this year as they have been,

1990
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Speaker 9: and that could be for a number of reasons. But

1991
01:28:52,812 --> 01:28:55,133
Speaker 9: I guess the point I want to make is I'm

1992
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Speaker 9: from a generation I suppose where Halloween was just not

1993
01:28:57,732 --> 01:29:00,652
Speaker 9: a thing. Now I've got young kids that it is,

1994
01:29:01,013 --> 01:29:03,492
Speaker 9: and I enjoy the fact that they want to hang

1995
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Speaker 9: out with their kids, and they dress up and stuff.

1996
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Speaker 9: What I don't like is we're about to send kids

1997
01:29:08,013 --> 01:29:11,572
Speaker 9: one on the streets and packed pretty much begging for Kendy.

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Speaker 5: What I would saying that, John, I don't know what

1999
01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:17,532
Speaker 5: it's like in the rest of the country. And as

2000
01:29:17,532 --> 01:29:18,852
Speaker 5: I said, I grew up in Dneda and when I

2001
01:29:18,893 --> 01:29:21,213
Speaker 5: went out, it wasn't a thing, and you basically did

2002
01:29:21,253 --> 01:29:25,852
Speaker 5: get dragon into houses and lectured about begging. But when

2003
01:29:25,893 --> 01:29:28,133
Speaker 5: you say wandering around, I mean when my kids will little,

2004
01:29:28,133 --> 01:29:31,092
Speaker 5: I'd wander around behind them. I'd be like three hundred

2005
01:29:31,133 --> 01:29:33,772
Speaker 5: meters behind them, keeping an eye on them. Also, there

2006
01:29:33,812 --> 01:29:37,012
Speaker 5: are streets and suburbs where it's encouraged, and you see

2007
01:29:37,013 --> 01:29:39,372
Speaker 5: the houses that will have the decorations out to say

2008
01:29:39,412 --> 01:29:42,213
Speaker 5: that you can go in there. So as long as

2009
01:29:42,253 --> 01:29:43,772
Speaker 5: they make an effort. What I don't like as a

2010
01:29:43,853 --> 01:29:46,412
Speaker 5: kid just turning up in no uniform at all, no

2011
01:29:47,133 --> 01:29:49,372
Speaker 5: costume at all, and just begging. You've got to put

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01:29:49,412 --> 01:29:51,213
Speaker 5: an effid in and they should be rewarded for the

2013
01:29:51,253 --> 01:29:52,932
Speaker 5: amount of iff it they've put into the costume.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, if it was any day of the year, generally.

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01:29:57,652 --> 01:30:00,412
Speaker 5: Speaking, going around knocking on doors begging for Lolly's is

2016
01:30:00,492 --> 01:30:02,772
Speaker 5: not a good idea as long as it's drilled into

2017
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Speaker 5: the kids that this is an October thirty first thing.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

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01:30:06,412 --> 01:30:07,692
Speaker 5: You've got to put the effort in it, and you

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01:30:07,812 --> 01:30:10,452
Speaker 5: only go in of the houses that are marked that

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01:30:10,572 --> 01:30:11,173
Speaker 5: they want to be.

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01:30:11,692 --> 01:30:12,652
Speaker 11: Yeah, they want to be.

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Speaker 9: Involved time team because you have probably wanting tool. But

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01:30:17,732 --> 01:30:20,253
Speaker 9: I'm going to head home now and potentially be laying

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01:30:20,293 --> 01:30:22,972
Speaker 9: a sea with my kids going. I don't think where

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01:30:22,973 --> 01:30:26,133
Speaker 9: they're going tonight is into it as they have been

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01:30:26,173 --> 01:30:29,612
Speaker 9: in the past. Plus what you've said, we've got two

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Speaker 9: of us tonight, one of my my partner's going to

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Speaker 9: base yourself at a basically spot the very close and

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01:30:36,133 --> 01:30:39,452
Speaker 9: I'm going to follow my younger one without here knowing

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01:30:39,532 --> 01:30:45,372
Speaker 9: I'm following. They're very they're out with their mates and

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01:30:45,452 --> 01:30:48,052
Speaker 9: don't come with us, so that it's like I'm torn

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01:30:48,133 --> 01:30:51,812
Speaker 9: on the issue. I think it's cool that they dress up,

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01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:54,333
Speaker 9: not so cool it's candy. I mean, if it was me,

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01:30:54,812 --> 01:30:56,492
Speaker 9: we're our long driveway so no one comes to see,

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01:30:56,893 --> 01:30:59,652
Speaker 9: I'd be giving them fruit, well.

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01:31:00,933 --> 01:31:03,253
Speaker 5: Brussels sprouts or something covered in chocolate.

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Speaker 9: Anyway, we'll be interested to see what the rest of

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01:31:07,253 --> 01:31:09,892
Speaker 9: your listeners happen on a subject. But this particular stub

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01:31:09,933 --> 01:31:12,692
Speaker 9: over in christ you're just uf known, not sure, not

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01:31:14,293 --> 01:31:16,652
Speaker 9: as they have been in the past, disappoint your kids.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, John, thanks for you calling, thanks

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01:31:18,893 --> 01:31:21,572
Speaker 5: for tuning. And it is an interesting thing though, the

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01:31:21,652 --> 01:31:24,173
Speaker 5: kids going out on their own. I read this fantastic book.

2045
01:31:24,173 --> 01:31:25,852
Speaker 5: He's got a new one out by Jonathan Hyde called

2046
01:31:25,853 --> 01:31:28,732
Speaker 5: The Coddling of America, and his main point is that

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01:31:28,772 --> 01:31:31,092
Speaker 5: the dangers out there aren't what they have been hyped

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01:31:31,173 --> 01:31:34,772
Speaker 5: up to be. And we with the helicopter parenting, we're

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01:31:34,812 --> 01:31:38,452
Speaker 5: actually not teaching kids to be able to do things

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01:31:38,492 --> 01:31:41,492
Speaker 5: on their own. So sending your kids out with a

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01:31:41,532 --> 01:31:44,452
Speaker 5: group of five or six or ten friends to actually

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01:31:44,492 --> 01:31:47,132
Speaker 5: go door for doors actually teaching them competence.

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01:31:47,133 --> 01:31:48,933
Speaker 6: It's actually really, really really good for.

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01:31:49,053 --> 01:31:51,732
Speaker 5: Kids that generally these days are sitting on the on

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01:31:51,812 --> 01:31:55,412
Speaker 5: the couch, you know, playing video games or on social media.

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01:31:55,812 --> 01:31:58,572
Speaker 5: It's actually actually really really really good for them anytime

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01:31:58,933 --> 01:32:00,732
Speaker 5: they can go out. And I used to send my

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01:32:00,812 --> 01:32:03,133
Speaker 5: kids down to the dairy because I was I was

2059
01:32:03,893 --> 01:32:05,372
Speaker 5: in my eyes. If they could go and do that,

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01:32:05,492 --> 01:32:06,652
Speaker 5: they have to talk to an adult. They have to

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01:32:06,652 --> 01:32:07,932
Speaker 5: find their way there and they have to go back.

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01:32:08,133 --> 01:32:10,173
Speaker 5: But first time I ever did that, when they were

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01:32:10,173 --> 01:32:12,492
Speaker 5: really little, I followed them down the street, hiding behind

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01:32:12,532 --> 01:32:13,532
Speaker 5: trees and watching them.

2065
01:32:15,372 --> 01:32:16,572
Speaker 6: Well, I thought I got away with it.

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01:32:16,612 --> 01:32:19,333
Speaker 5: When they got back they said, and I say, oh, wow,

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01:32:19,372 --> 01:32:20,972
Speaker 5: you wento the deary for the first time. Your kids

2068
01:32:21,013 --> 01:32:23,692
Speaker 5: are amazing. And then my oldest son said, what were

2069
01:32:23,692 --> 01:32:24,732
Speaker 5: you doing behind the tree?

2070
01:32:25,612 --> 01:32:26,852
Speaker 3: We saw you in the bushes.

2071
01:32:27,253 --> 01:32:27,452
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2072
01:32:27,492 --> 01:32:29,333
Speaker 5: But I really wanted them to be independent and get

2073
01:32:29,372 --> 01:32:31,053
Speaker 5: out there, and I think that is a positive part

2074
01:32:31,093 --> 01:32:34,492
Speaker 5: of Halloween. You're going out, you're talking to adults, you're

2075
01:32:34,532 --> 01:32:37,772
Speaker 5: knocking on doors, you're experiencing a little bit of stuff,

2076
01:32:37,853 --> 01:32:41,532
Speaker 5: free range unless you've got a five o'clock shadow, a

2077
01:32:41,572 --> 01:32:43,532
Speaker 5: deep voice, and you're just wearing a T shirt like

2078
01:32:43,612 --> 01:32:44,452
Speaker 5: I've seen in the past.

2079
01:32:44,532 --> 01:32:46,772
Speaker 3: If you're over eighteen, stay at home.

2080
01:32:46,853 --> 01:32:48,013
Speaker 6: No trick or tree you and.

2081
01:32:48,093 --> 01:32:52,772
Speaker 5: No, absolutely no lollies for people without a costume. If

2082
01:32:52,772 --> 01:32:54,572
Speaker 5: there's ten kids and want of them to have a costume,

2083
01:32:54,893 --> 01:32:56,612
Speaker 5: give it to the nine and get out of here.

2084
01:32:57,492 --> 01:32:58,333
Speaker 5: Get out of here.

2085
01:32:58,572 --> 01:33:00,452
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2086
01:33:00,532 --> 01:33:02,692
Speaker 3: number of coool it's twenty three past three.

2087
01:33:08,333 --> 01:33:11,692
Speaker 1: Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and eighty

2088
01:33:11,772 --> 01:33:13,653
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZIB.

2089
01:33:13,732 --> 01:33:14,732
Speaker 3: Twenty five past three.

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01:33:14,973 --> 01:33:17,293
Speaker 5: Welcome to show, Debra. I love Halloween. You don't?

2091
01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:19,173
Speaker 15: Hello?

2092
01:33:19,333 --> 01:33:19,892
Speaker 32: Is that Tyler?

2093
01:33:20,293 --> 01:33:23,692
Speaker 3: That was Matt's This is Tyler, Hello Debra, Hello, Hello.

2094
01:33:24,133 --> 01:33:27,932
Speaker 32: Hy Tyler. So I really don't like Halloween. I don't

2095
01:33:28,093 --> 01:33:30,652
Speaker 32: like seeing children walking past. There's lots of children in

2096
01:33:30,732 --> 01:33:34,692
Speaker 32: my suburb. I don't like seeing children walking past looking

2097
01:33:34,893 --> 01:33:40,933
Speaker 32: ugly looking and having sort of gassy, sharp faces, ugly faces,

2098
01:33:41,532 --> 01:33:45,293
Speaker 32: sharp clothing. I think it's really really awful. New Zealand

2099
01:33:45,372 --> 01:33:48,133
Speaker 32: didn't need to receive it. I lived in America when

2100
01:33:48,173 --> 01:33:50,732
Speaker 32: I was a child for a year and I did it.

2101
01:33:51,093 --> 01:33:53,652
Speaker 32: I don't think it's great and it's it does there

2102
01:33:53,732 --> 01:33:56,253
Speaker 32: are realms of negativity, which I'm not going to talk

2103
01:33:56,293 --> 01:34:00,173
Speaker 32: about over the radio. I just think it's a sad thing.

2104
01:34:00,213 --> 01:34:02,572
Speaker 32: And you, guys, I can see why, Matt, I know

2105
01:34:02,732 --> 01:34:05,053
Speaker 32: why you like it. I can see why you like it.

2106
01:34:05,093 --> 01:34:07,692
Speaker 32: But I also Matt loved the fact that you followed

2107
01:34:07,732 --> 01:34:09,652
Speaker 32: your children because I think that's a good thing. I

2108
01:34:09,692 --> 01:34:12,852
Speaker 32: think it's a really good thing, and there's so many

2109
01:34:12,853 --> 01:34:15,692
Speaker 32: people who do like Halloween, but I just think it's

2110
01:34:15,732 --> 01:34:18,812
Speaker 32: a horrible thing and the source of Halloween is completely ghastly.

2111
01:34:20,013 --> 01:34:22,933
Speaker 5: Yeah, Debra. Yeah, So just to go back to that,

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01:34:23,013 --> 01:34:25,213
Speaker 5: Jonathan Heights's latest book is called The Anxious Generation.

2113
01:34:25,333 --> 01:34:27,253
Speaker 6: It's brilliant. That's what I was talking about before.

2114
01:34:27,253 --> 01:34:29,612
Speaker 5: That's a texta that's in that through and that thing

2115
01:34:29,692 --> 01:34:31,852
Speaker 5: with kids walking out and putting on costumes and going

2116
01:34:31,853 --> 01:34:34,412
Speaker 5: around from househouse. It is great though, in a time

2117
01:34:34,452 --> 01:34:37,412
Speaker 5: when kids are being coddled and being helicopter parented and

2118
01:34:37,532 --> 01:34:38,932
Speaker 5: not being competent in the world.

2119
01:34:39,532 --> 01:34:40,372
Speaker 6: Don't you think there's.

2120
01:34:40,173 --> 01:34:42,093
Speaker 5: Something good in at Deborah when they get out and

2121
01:34:42,692 --> 01:34:45,412
Speaker 5: they roam by themselves, they put on a costume and

2122
01:34:45,452 --> 01:34:48,532
Speaker 5: they talk to adults and they are, you know, the

2123
01:34:48,612 --> 01:34:52,013
Speaker 5: master of their own destiny for a while, for an afternoon.

2124
01:34:53,652 --> 01:34:56,333
Speaker 32: To a degree, Matt. But I think the thing is sadly.

2125
01:34:56,933 --> 01:34:59,973
Speaker 32: I mean, look what you guys are talking about. I

2126
01:35:00,053 --> 01:35:02,772
Speaker 32: think in the first are you know people who punch

2127
01:35:02,853 --> 01:35:05,652
Speaker 32: people on buses or something, and would anyone stand up

2128
01:35:05,652 --> 01:35:05,892
Speaker 32: for them?

2129
01:35:06,013 --> 01:35:06,892
Speaker 15: It's really sad.

2130
01:35:07,492 --> 01:35:11,333
Speaker 32: But in New Zealand there's too many defunk people who

2131
01:35:11,452 --> 01:35:15,133
Speaker 32: don't seem to have respect for others. And oh gosh,

2132
01:35:15,213 --> 01:35:17,053
Speaker 32: I thought of you know your children. That's why Matt

2133
01:35:17,133 --> 01:35:18,452
Speaker 32: get up there and follow your children?

2134
01:35:18,893 --> 01:35:20,732
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think if you are going to follow

2135
01:35:20,772 --> 01:35:22,532
Speaker 5: your children, though, I think it's quite good to follow

2136
01:35:22,572 --> 01:35:24,532
Speaker 5: them and then them not know to a certain extent,

2137
01:35:24,973 --> 01:35:26,692
Speaker 5: so they are making their own decisions. And I think

2138
01:35:26,732 --> 01:35:29,173
Speaker 5: that makes kids stronger and more independent, and the more

2139
01:35:29,213 --> 01:35:31,892
Speaker 5: independent they can be, the better. And Jonathan Hyde talks

2140
01:35:31,893 --> 01:35:34,053
Speaker 5: about leave them at home as much as you can

2141
01:35:34,213 --> 01:35:37,972
Speaker 5: as well, you know, like, don't be they're worried once

2142
01:35:38,013 --> 01:35:40,412
Speaker 5: that you know, I know, there's you've got to keep

2143
01:35:41,093 --> 01:35:43,173
Speaker 5: your eye over them. You've got to know that they're safe.

2144
01:35:43,293 --> 01:35:45,532
Speaker 5: But the more time they can be independent, the sooner

2145
01:35:45,572 --> 01:35:47,692
Speaker 5: that they're they're at home and looking after themselves and

2146
01:35:47,732 --> 01:35:51,012
Speaker 5: making decisions for themselves, the better. And it's really hard

2147
01:35:51,093 --> 01:35:53,852
Speaker 5: for parents now to allow our kids to be independent

2148
01:35:53,893 --> 01:35:56,133
Speaker 5: because we worry about them more than that my parents.

2149
01:35:56,452 --> 01:35:58,253
Speaker 3: I like the idea of meeting the neighbors. I think

2150
01:35:58,293 --> 01:36:00,253
Speaker 3: that has been lost in New Zealand. And look, I

2151
01:36:00,412 --> 01:36:02,492
Speaker 3: put my hand up. I don't know our new neighbors

2152
01:36:02,572 --> 01:36:04,732
Speaker 3: that well. Didn't really know our neighbors that well. In

2153
01:36:04,853 --> 01:36:07,612
Speaker 3: christ Church knew them a little bit. We did Christmas gifts,

2154
01:36:07,652 --> 01:36:09,293
Speaker 3: so I suppose it's more than a lot of people.

2155
01:36:09,612 --> 01:36:11,852
Speaker 3: But getting to know your neighbors, you know that.

2156
01:36:12,133 --> 01:36:14,213
Speaker 5: Look at this text Tyler nineteen nine two came through.

2157
01:36:14,333 --> 01:36:17,973
Speaker 5: I call it Hello Ween. Great way to grow community.

2158
01:36:18,093 --> 01:36:20,572
Speaker 5: To know your neighbors' kids and their parents. That stand

2159
01:36:20,652 --> 01:36:23,053
Speaker 5: back abit safe communities when you know your neighbors. That's

2160
01:36:23,053 --> 01:36:23,572
Speaker 5: from Simon.

2161
01:36:23,692 --> 01:36:25,532
Speaker 3: There you go, that's exactly what I was getting at.

2162
01:36:25,772 --> 01:36:28,972
Speaker 5: Hello Weeen beautiful Simon.

2163
01:36:29,133 --> 01:36:31,372
Speaker 3: Now we're going to carry this on after the headlines,

2164
01:36:31,372 --> 01:36:34,093
Speaker 3: but we also want to talk about horror movies because

2165
01:36:34,093 --> 01:36:36,013
Speaker 3: you're a massive horror movie fan. It's something you do

2166
01:36:36,093 --> 01:36:36,972
Speaker 3: with the kids on Halloween.

2167
01:36:37,173 --> 01:36:37,772
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: I wrote an article about it on my substackmanhet substack

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Speaker 5: dot com. It was about how watching scary movies with

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Speaker 5: your kids is actually a good thing because there's a

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Speaker 5: buzz you get from being scared, and there's there's a

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Speaker 5: endorphin that you get after being scared, and I think

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Speaker 5: it kind of makes it again and making your kids

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Speaker 5: more more robust, and that's the point. You want to

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Speaker 5: make kids that are competent and strong and can live

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01:37:01,772 --> 01:37:03,692
Speaker 5: in the world on their own, and scaring them is

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Speaker 5: a great great way to do that because they get

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Speaker 5: used to fear and how to deal with it. So

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Speaker 5: every Halloween, I make sure I watch a really scary

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Speaker 5: movie with my kids, and I have done it for

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Speaker 5: a very long time, probably movies that were way too

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Speaker 5: scary for their age.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about here? Like Saw? No, I

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Speaker 3: hate those movies. That's too much.

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Speaker 6: I hate those torture movies. That's not a horror.

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Speaker 5: I want a psychological horror. I want I want, you know,

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Speaker 5: the Exorcist type situation. Actually the Exorsus is too full

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Speaker 5: of the kids. Yeah, but I just I will never

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Speaker 5: I hate those films like Saw. I hate the ones

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Speaker 5: that are just pure violence and indulging in that side

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Speaker 5: of it. But later on, I don't. I don't want

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Speaker 5: to ruin this discussion by saying my.

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Speaker 6: Favorite horror films.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to hear what other people's favorite horror films are.

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Speaker 6: Oh, eight hundred.

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Speaker 5: Eighty ten eighty I really said at nine two want

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Speaker 5: to I want to know what your favorite horror films are.

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Speaker 5: And at the end, I've got a list of the

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Speaker 5: five best horror films I believe of the century, of

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Speaker 5: the last twenty four years.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that, it's bango and hop ass three.

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Speaker 1: Woduce Talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 1: no trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 22: An interim report schon Light on Cookstraight Ferry Artitedi's grounding

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Speaker 22: in June and notes crew significantly mitigated its effects. It

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Speaker 22: details how the new autopilot was engaged too late and

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Speaker 22: crew didn't know how to reset it, meaning a crucial

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Speaker 22: two minutes lack of control. The Minister of Market Studies

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Speaker 22: is saying no to a Consumer and z request for

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Speaker 22: a probe of competition and aviation in light of a

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Speaker 22: New Zealand's eighty six percent share of the domestic market.

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Speaker 22: A person has died in a crash in the Ruta

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Speaker 22: Duur's or Fata after fleeing police. The driver died at

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Speaker 22: the scene and the passenger suffered minor injuries. Two others

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Speaker 22: in a second vehicle suffered moderate injuries. Labour says the

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Speaker 22: government should review its support for Mike King's charity Gunboot Friday,

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Speaker 22: after he said alcohol could be a solution to mental

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Speaker 22: health changes to tie it to the migrant exploitation protection

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Speaker 22: work VISA kick in today, including harving their period to

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Speaker 22: six months and raising the eligibility threshold. Jeff Bezos elon

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Speaker 22: Musk and the billions of ways to influence an election

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Speaker 22: influence I should say you can read more at Inzaid

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Speaker 22: Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen. It's twenty six to four.

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Speaker 5: I just want to point out something good for people

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Speaker 5: that are interested in halloweena and Auckland and outside Eden

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01:39:39,692 --> 01:39:42,133
Speaker 5: Park on Cricket af which is the east end of

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01:39:42,452 --> 01:39:44,612
Speaker 5: Eden Park. They've got the fortress that they built, which

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01:39:44,652 --> 01:39:46,932
Speaker 5: is a kid's playground based on the idea that Eden

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01:39:46,973 --> 01:39:50,013
Speaker 5: Park is a fortress. But they've done that up beautifully

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01:39:50,093 --> 01:39:52,372
Speaker 5: for Halloween. Lit up the tunnel. It's got a whole

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01:39:52,372 --> 01:39:54,732
Speaker 5: lot of slides on it and stuff the Haunted Fortress.

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01:39:55,173 --> 01:39:57,732
Speaker 5: And between four thirty and six thirty today you can

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01:39:57,812 --> 01:40:01,052
Speaker 5: go along and the CEO of In Park, Nick Shawtan

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01:40:01,133 --> 01:40:02,812
Speaker 5: is going to be handing out lotas there so Cricket.

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Speaker 3: He's a good man, nixt Aughtner.

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Speaker 5: So if you're around that area and there's a bit

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Speaker 5: of Halloween in the Mount Eden area, it's a good

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01:40:08,692 --> 01:40:11,293
Speaker 5: spot to past if you're in the area.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, Simon. We're talking horror movies. You're a fan.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I'm not a huge fan, but I've seen a

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Speaker 10: couple that have just absolutely changed my life. You know,

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01:40:22,412 --> 01:40:25,652
Speaker 10: I've only just started going outside recently. Again, you know,

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Speaker 10: not a proud thing for growing. Man. I did see

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01:40:32,333 --> 01:40:38,372
Speaker 10: one years ago Mel Gibson and Yokwan Phoenix called Signs.

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01:40:38,893 --> 01:40:40,372
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Signs, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 10: Blood and go one but bloody hell, and it scared

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Speaker 10: the Bejesus out of me.

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Speaker 6: I'm a huge m Night Cemlin fan.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Sixteens.

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Speaker 6: Sixteens is phenomenal. I love the village. I love them.

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Speaker 6: I mean they're they're up and down.

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01:40:58,133 --> 01:41:00,013
Speaker 5: I like knock on the on, the knock on the

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01:41:00,093 --> 01:41:02,133
Speaker 5: Kevin door whatever. It was the most recent one. But

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Speaker 5: Signs is interesting, isn't it? Because that's a horror movie.

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Speaker 5: But it's about aliens, and in the nineteen fifties, aliens

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01:41:08,973 --> 01:41:10,052
Speaker 5: are really scary for people.

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01:41:10,973 --> 01:41:13,133
Speaker 10: It's not said in the nineteen fifty No no, no, no,

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Speaker 10: no no.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that in the nineteen fifties, lots

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Speaker 5: of horror movies about aliens and The m Knight Shamala

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01:41:18,452 --> 01:41:20,572
Speaker 5: and brought that back with signs being scared.

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Speaker 10: The suspense you don't see the aliens too well in

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01:41:24,893 --> 01:41:27,973
Speaker 10: the movie The Noises in the Cornfield and when that

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01:41:28,173 --> 01:41:31,333
Speaker 10: dog goes running out of it and then it goes silent. Yeah,

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01:41:32,692 --> 01:41:36,053
Speaker 10: and it just brings it all back. I've actually said

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Speaker 10: to my kids, never watch this movie.

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Speaker 3: It is terrifying. Yeah, great twist at the end, as

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Speaker 3: a lot of his movies do have.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll give a bit of a dodging twist. But

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Speaker 5: but the thing is cornfields. Corn there's something terrifying and

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Speaker 5: they come up a lot in American horror films, just

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01:41:48,893 --> 01:41:51,253
Speaker 5: been chased through corn fields, getting lost in corn fields,

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Speaker 5: things coming out of the cornfields?

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Speaker 12: Are you going to have?

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Speaker 6: And what's the other one, Simon?

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Speaker 10: Hostile that's a little bit of a bloody gore, but

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Speaker 10: the youth to suspense, Well, it's not all about the

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01:42:03,093 --> 01:42:05,692
Speaker 10: blood and gore, but it's bloody scary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Thank you so much for your call, Simon.

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Speaker 3: But in two movies, as you mentioned, you don't want

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Speaker 3: to end up in a corn field at nighttime that

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01:42:12,213 --> 01:42:14,213
Speaker 3: you know, nothing good can happen from that. And same

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01:42:14,253 --> 01:42:16,333
Speaker 3: with hostile. You just don't want to go to East

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Speaker 3: East Europe at any time of year. Eighty Matthew, how

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Speaker 3: are you?

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Speaker 10: Oh good guys, Maddie again, how are you good?

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01:42:26,253 --> 01:42:26,692
Speaker 6: To talk to you?

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01:42:28,973 --> 01:42:30,092
Speaker 10: A few life changes.

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Speaker 5: The Omen, Oh god.

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01:42:32,053 --> 01:42:34,692
Speaker 3: Yep, Damien, Damien was the kid.

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01:42:36,772 --> 01:42:39,892
Speaker 10: Damien and then she jumps off.

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01:42:39,973 --> 01:42:41,372
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, the candy Man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a terrifying movie.

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01:42:43,772 --> 01:42:46,933
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's a terrifying movie. That's a terrifying movie. And

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Speaker 16: Children of the Corn that's another one.

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Speaker 3: You go, that's the that's the corn of creepy kids

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01:42:52,253 --> 01:42:54,893
Speaker 3: and the movies you're watching, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 16: But the Omen that really impacted me. And Salem's Lot

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Speaker 16: Stephen King, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You haven't seen that one.

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Speaker 5: So so the first Dimend movie was terrifying. They've re

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Speaker 5: made it recently that that is a truly terrifying movie.

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01:43:08,013 --> 01:43:10,812
Speaker 5: As actually came to Barana, but but you always think

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01:43:10,853 --> 01:43:12,412
Speaker 5: it as I used to work in a record store

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01:43:12,412 --> 01:43:14,372
Speaker 5: and whenever the Omend played on TV, people would come

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01:43:14,412 --> 01:43:16,732
Speaker 5: in and try and buy Marina Barana. But it was

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01:43:16,812 --> 01:43:19,293
Speaker 5: not not not the same. But then of course you

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Speaker 5: Zealand Sam Neil was in the in the in the

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01:43:21,893 --> 01:43:23,053
Speaker 5: third Imen movie, wasn't he?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yes, so no terrifying.

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01:43:25,652 --> 01:43:27,852
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is a truly terrifying movie.

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Speaker 3: The first dimond one one that I saw, I actually

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Speaker 3: will go to Jet and first kid a Jettam Hey

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Speaker 3: how are you? Yeah, goods, what's your Halloween movie?

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Speaker 30: So we recently wotched Alien and I know it's mortal

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01:43:40,452 --> 01:43:43,253
Speaker 30: for sci fi but also has that total part to attach.

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Speaker 12: To that as well.

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Speaker 3: Tearfully.

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Speaker 30: It's one of those pretty pretty old ones as well,

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01:43:47,173 --> 01:43:50,293
Speaker 30: and I think ahead of their times. But I think

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01:43:50,572 --> 01:43:53,212
Speaker 30: the other thing I just wanted touch basis about the neighborhood,

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Speaker 30: which we're talking about as well. I think this movie

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Speaker 30: actually watched all three Neighbors next Door at one of

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Speaker 30: the neighbors places, back to back board the movies and

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01:44:01,732 --> 01:44:04,812
Speaker 30: the it's good to know that you've got the good

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01:44:04,853 --> 01:44:07,852
Speaker 30: neighborhood and just keeping an eye and being vigilant just

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01:44:07,933 --> 01:44:10,253
Speaker 30: in case someone to wait for Christmas break or long

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Speaker 30: weekends as well, so you've you've got and cover yourself

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Speaker 30: as well. So yeah, definitely you need your good neighborhead

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01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:18,053
Speaker 30: and you just need to being alone as well.

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01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:20,892
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean anytime you can get out of your fence,

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01:44:20,893 --> 01:44:22,692
Speaker 5: because a lot of New Zealanders we go to work,

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01:44:22,732 --> 01:44:25,012
Speaker 5: we come home, we shut the door, and we stay

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Speaker 5: inside our fence. And so many people don't know their

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01:44:26,973 --> 01:44:29,932
Speaker 5: neighbors either side. So what if you think about Halloween,

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01:44:30,333 --> 01:44:32,293
Speaker 5: if the kids in the neighborhoods and they go out

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01:44:32,333 --> 01:44:34,893
Speaker 5: and do something together, whether it's playing sport together or

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01:44:35,093 --> 01:44:40,732
Speaker 5: whatever it is. I don't know, singing carols maybe unerstanding

2341
01:44:41,093 --> 01:44:45,452
Speaker 5: what happened, But I think Halloween sits in that same

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01:44:46,173 --> 01:44:49,333
Speaker 5: same category of kids getting out and meeting their neighbors.

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01:44:49,933 --> 01:44:52,652
Speaker 5: And it's so cool if you know that the neighborhood's kids,

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01:44:52,652 --> 01:44:52,812
Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 3: Yep, No, I agree, Jeton, Thank you very much. Now,

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Speaker 3: I've just remembered our horror movie that actually traumatized me

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Speaker 3: as a kid, and it's not a hugely popular one.

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01:45:02,812 --> 01:45:06,412
Speaker 3: Tommy Knockers. Oh Tommy Knockers, Stephen King, Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. I would have been not years

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01:45:08,692 --> 01:45:10,652
Speaker 3: old at my friend's place. And you know how the

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01:45:10,772 --> 01:45:13,052
Speaker 3: videos used to have trailers at the start, the old VCRs.

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01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:15,013
Speaker 3: And I can't even remember what movie we've got out,

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01:45:15,053 --> 01:45:16,772
Speaker 3: but there was a trailer for the Tommy Knockers and

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01:45:17,053 --> 01:45:20,093
Speaker 3: it was terrifying. It was just a slow zoom in

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01:45:20,372 --> 01:45:22,532
Speaker 3: to the back of someone's head. Then they turn around

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01:45:22,572 --> 01:45:24,972
Speaker 3: and it's this grotesque face, and then it was sort

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01:45:24,973 --> 01:45:28,333
Speaker 3: of my mate disappears, Jonathan, where you gone? And he

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01:45:28,452 --> 01:45:31,692
Speaker 3: comes running out with a stocking over his head, yelling

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01:45:31,933 --> 01:45:34,732
Speaker 3: in my face. And I've never forgotten that still even

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01:45:34,772 --> 01:45:36,093
Speaker 3: watched the movie. I don't know what it's about. I'm

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01:45:36,133 --> 01:45:36,452
Speaker 3: too scared.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when I was a kid, me and my mate

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01:45:37,812 --> 01:45:39,652
Speaker 5: Jacob Cooper, we used to He's had quite a big

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01:45:39,732 --> 01:45:41,532
Speaker 5: house and we'd set up in front of the TV,

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01:45:41,772 --> 01:45:44,532
Speaker 5: just on two stools, turn the lights out so there's

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Speaker 5: a huge amount of distance behind us, and watch movies.

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01:45:47,093 --> 01:45:50,492
Speaker 5: We watched The Shining together like that, and his mum

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01:45:50,572 --> 01:45:52,973
Speaker 5: came home and opened the door just quite politely, and

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01:45:53,492 --> 01:45:55,852
Speaker 5: I screamed and screamed and screamed and fell off the

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Speaker 5: chair and ran across the room and ran into the door.

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Speaker 3: Love it the most horror fying horror movie You've seen,

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01:46:02,612 --> 01:46:05,133
Speaker 3: the scariest horror or your favorite? Love to hear from you. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred at ten eighty is the number to call

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01:46:07,652 --> 01:46:09,213
Speaker 3: nine two nine. It was the text number.

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Speaker 29: It is nineteen to four, your new home of afternoon

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Speaker 29: tourth Tyler Adams Afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Call, Oh eight hundred and eighty gen eighty News Talk

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Speaker 8: said be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you at seventeen minutes to four.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, this is the tipt we got through on

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Speaker 5: nineteen nine two Loving you Together on the air.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: So I didn't actually mean to read that, but at

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Speaker 5: earlier Matt mentioned a Halloween movie he watched on Netflix.

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Speaker 5: The movie is Late Night with the Devil when I

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Speaker 5: watched last night, great movie to be as good as

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Speaker 5: it is. It's set in nineteen seventy seven and it's

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Speaker 5: just set in a late night talk show and they

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Speaker 5: bring onto the late night talk show a possessed child

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Speaker 5: and things spiral out of control.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Soham, how are you?

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Speaker 32: Oh good?

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Speaker 9: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: What is there's good? What's your favorite horror?

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Speaker 10: So the scariest one I seen and the one I

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Speaker 10: like just gave me a real cack was probably talk

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Speaker 10: to me.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I couldn't finish that.

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Speaker 6: That is a terrifying film.

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Speaker 3: I generally could it, and I always I love horror

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Speaker 3: movies and I usually watched at the end, but that

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Speaker 3: one just it did something and I couldn't finish it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: how old are you so?

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Speaker 32: Fourteen?

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, you're a brave fourteen year old, because there

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Speaker 5: was fourteen year olds in that movie. For people that

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Speaker 5: haven't seen it, it's an Australian movie and it's about

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Speaker 5: a group of kids and they start it's made by

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Speaker 5: two Australian brothers actually, and they start, there's his hand.

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Speaker 6: And when you hold onto it, you see a dead person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were that. The lead actress saw him.

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Speaker 3: She was very good, wasn't she.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think she was.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And did you find it more terrifying because there were

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Speaker 5: kids in the movie that were your age?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 36: I was traumatized for that.

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Speaker 3: I'm worth you there.

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Speaker 5: So that is a truly scary movie. It's only a

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Speaker 5: couple of years old, and it is really good. If

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Speaker 5: you talk to me, boy, oh boy, that one really

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Speaker 5: hit me. And it's based on the idea these two

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Speaker 5: Australian brothers that made it that they saw a kid

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Speaker 5: having a convulsion at a party and everyone, all the

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Speaker 5: other kids just stood around and filmed the kid instead

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Speaker 5: of helping, and so they thought they was horrible and

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Speaker 5: they made a movie about people filming instead of helping

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Speaker 5: out in a paranormal situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great movie. Just before we let you go, Sohm,

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Speaker 3: are you going to go trick or treating tonight, Levy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Probably?

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Speaker 5: All right, all right, good man, thanks so much for calling,

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Speaker 5: and thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Craig, how you doing.

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Speaker 26: Good day there, boys, good show. We're hearing now, Thank

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Speaker 26: you mate. A few years ago, well, it was quite

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Speaker 26: a few years ago. When I was about nine or ten,

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Speaker 26: my parents took me to a movie, and me and

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Speaker 26: my brother to a movie and dropped us off and

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Speaker 26: it happened to be Stephen King's Kujo Oh, And my

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Speaker 26: mother said, let's take the kids to a lovely doggy movie.

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Speaker 26: I hated horror movies.

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Speaker 10: Everson.

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Speaker 5: So how old a lovely dog?

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Speaker 32: How old were you en?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Boys, So mamma had no idea you'd be sitting there

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Speaker 5: with your brother and suddenly realizing this is terrifying.

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Speaker 13: It was awful.

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Speaker 3: What did your mom say? I mean, I haven't seen

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Speaker 3: ko Joe, but I I was at some sort of

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Speaker 3: demon dog?

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Speaker 10: Is it? It's a dog that gets written by a bat.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, kids, rabies and then goes out to people that

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Speaker 26: is so close to home.

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Speaker 6: And are you more scared of dogs or bats?

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Speaker 5: Now crag both it's bitten by bats? Wise man, Greg, Hey,

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Speaker 5: that hasn't really interesting text. Hey guys, great show question.

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Speaker 5: What was that substack called again? It's Matt Heath got

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Speaker 5: substack dot com and I've got an article on there

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Speaker 5: called forcing kids to watch horror films the Benefits. But

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Speaker 5: that's a little bit back. Today's the most recent one

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Speaker 5: is American sport pink cocaine.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, this tex is good. Kujo is basically a

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Speaker 3: rabbit Beethoven. I, John, there you going horror movies? What

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Speaker 3: are you reacking?

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Speaker 25: But you had a caller on saying about the Omen earlier,

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Speaker 25: and I just wanted to give you a story in

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Speaker 25: relation to it. So that the church that they use

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Speaker 25: and the Omen is in the grounds of an army

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Speaker 25: camp in Britain, right, And when whenever I was in

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Speaker 25: the Army and you would arrived at this camp to

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Speaker 25: do guardship, they used to have the Omen playing in

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Speaker 25: the guardroom and they wouldn't tell you the church was

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Speaker 25: on your route. So you'd arrived then and you'd watch

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Speaker 25: the Omen, and then they send you out and you

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Speaker 25: ended up walking through the grounds of that church used

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Speaker 25: to win and hide stuff and get noises and things.

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Speaker 3: That's terrifying. That's the one scene I remember, John specifically

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Speaker 3: from the Omen is the spire scene and we all

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Speaker 3: know it, but right outside the church and the pastor

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Speaker 3: is him what he needs to be doing, and then

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Speaker 3: it was sudden the spiral falls down and we know

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Speaker 3: it open there.

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Speaker 25: Yeah. Well, it was all good fun until one of

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Speaker 25: these breaked out and discharged his firearm stopped after that?

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Speaker 5: Wow, So did he dis judged it at someone or

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01:51:24,572 --> 01:51:26,772
Speaker 5: just in the air? Did you charge it? Did judge

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01:51:26,812 --> 01:51:28,772
Speaker 5: it in rage or in just by accident?

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Speaker 25: End of the bushes he freaked out and things that

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Speaker 25: when you would walk past, they would hide and filled

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Speaker 25: the ropes and make everything shaken, and he freaked.

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Speaker 5: Well, it seems understandable. So that theme to the Omen.

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Speaker 5: People think it's Kamena barana, but it's not. It's ave

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Speaker 5: Sentani right, Avei from the ninety six seventy sixth film

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Speaker 5: The omens Cerifying, composed by Jerry Goldsmith.

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Speaker 6: You'll know it if you hear it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John, fantastic story. Thank you very much, Chris. How

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Speaker 3: you doing.

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Speaker 38: There's a lot of recent ones you think of a

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01:52:04,093 --> 01:52:05,213
Speaker 38: conjuring one and two.

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01:52:05,452 --> 01:52:09,093
Speaker 12: Oh yes, it follows small all all those.

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Speaker 38: But the best horror sci fi horror is the great

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01:52:13,093 --> 01:52:15,372
Speaker 38: Kurt Russell and John Carpenter is the thing.

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Speaker 6: Tyler was mentioned this before.

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01:52:19,013 --> 01:52:21,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my favorite. Chriss. That is such a good movie.

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01:52:21,812 --> 01:52:24,772
Speaker 3: Terrifying but so good. The atmosphere, oh man.

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Speaker 38: And the best the best Spielboog film was Jaws. Not

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01:52:29,412 --> 01:52:31,293
Speaker 38: too horrible, but you know that made ever run not

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01:52:31,333 --> 01:52:34,893
Speaker 38: want to go to the beach. And then the reality

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01:52:34,973 --> 01:52:38,532
Speaker 38: ones these days, like even the original o g. The

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01:52:38,652 --> 01:52:42,772
Speaker 38: Blear Witch Project fantastic, that is actually quite freaky.

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Speaker 5: I just watched I just watched The Blue Witch Project

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01:52:45,333 --> 01:52:47,652
Speaker 5: the other day, actually again because I was trying to

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01:52:47,692 --> 01:52:49,772
Speaker 5: work out what happened at the end. I watched that

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Speaker 5: and then then then the sequel, because it was two sequels.

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Speaker 5: The one quite a few years later was just called

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Speaker 5: the Blair Witch Project. Again, that was okay, but the

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Speaker 5: original is terrifying. Not a lot happens, arguably, apart from

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01:53:02,213 --> 01:53:04,052
Speaker 5: some stones being piled up in front of some tense

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01:53:04,133 --> 01:53:07,572
Speaker 5: people getting lost in some weird wooden things hanging from trees.

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Speaker 5: But it is terrifying, Thank you, very.

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Speaker 3: Much, Chris. The thing about The Blair Witch when it

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Speaker 3: first came to movie theaters is the viral marketing around

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Speaker 3: it was so clever. People thought it was a snuff

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Speaker 3: Well there was a documentary on Tell You about the

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Speaker 3: Blair Witch, and everybody thought it was an actual documentary,

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Speaker 3: which was terrifying.

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Speaker 8: Les.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 39: Yeah, thank you guys.

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Speaker 12: Yep.

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Speaker 39: This was another oots that didn't involve me. My husband

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Speaker 39: was quite a young man in the early eighties. Meet

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01:53:37,652 --> 01:53:41,253
Speaker 39: a girl he liked, nice Christian girl. It sort of

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Speaker 39: take her to a nice Christian new movie that Exodus.

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Speaker 5: Yep, the Exodus, but it wasn't It wasn't exod.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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01:53:54,772 --> 01:53:56,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, what that would about? I mean it had a lovely,

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01:53:56,612 --> 01:53:58,013
Speaker 3: you know, too lovely past, isn't it?

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01:53:58,452 --> 01:53:58,972
Speaker 5: Or priests?

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01:53:59,412 --> 01:54:01,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well we can go wrong.

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01:54:01,772 --> 01:54:04,133
Speaker 20: I think they had to leave.

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01:54:04,612 --> 01:54:07,772
Speaker 15: Yeah, basically, I mean too much.

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Speaker 5: This different some challenging. There's some definitely some challenging stuff

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01:54:11,372 --> 01:54:14,133
Speaker 5: in that movie. But the exociusse When did that came out?

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Speaker 5: That probably would have come out about nineteen seventy three,

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01:54:16,372 --> 01:54:19,372
Speaker 5: I believe. But it's still the scariest movie to this day.

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01:54:20,812 --> 01:54:22,853
Speaker 5: It is a truly chilling.

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Speaker 20: Movie called the Exodus, or not that they got to

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Speaker 20: see that, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's great, thank you very much. Whether it's

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01:54:32,133 --> 01:54:34,413
Speaker 3: a myth or not. But there was some pretty nasty

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01:54:34,453 --> 01:54:36,493
Speaker 3: stuff that happened on that film. Seit wasn't it. There

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01:54:36,533 --> 01:54:38,253
Speaker 3: was a there was a person that died, there was

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Speaker 3: some spooed.

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Speaker 6: Market. There's been some stuff since there.

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01:54:42,133 --> 01:54:45,253
Speaker 5: But William Friedkin, who directed it, he did things like

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01:54:45,333 --> 01:54:47,533
Speaker 5: freezing the sets so when they were shooting those scenes,

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01:54:47,693 --> 01:54:51,453
Speaker 5: it was actually basically in a bear fridge genius, so

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01:54:51,653 --> 01:54:53,293
Speaker 5: people were cold. There was that you know when you

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01:54:53,333 --> 01:54:55,213
Speaker 5: can see the breath. It was really that cold there.

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Speaker 5: They did a lot of stuff, but they set the

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Speaker 5: whole rooms they were shooting in so they shaked around,

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01:55:01,213 --> 01:55:04,053
Speaker 5: so you know, I think it was Yeah, it was

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Speaker 5: Linda Bleir. She was a kid and absolutely terrified when

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Speaker 5: she it so slightly dodgy, but fantastic movie.

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Speaker 3: It is eight minutes to four. We'll get to more

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Speaker 3: of your phone calls very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four used talk said b zaid b.

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Speaker 3: Hey you Ashley, watch your go to horror movie.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, how are you doing?

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Speaker 12: Boy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're very good, excellent.

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Speaker 24: I've got a bit of a yarn. So when I

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Speaker 24: was a kid, which was like fifty years ago, because

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Speaker 24: I'm really old, when I grew up in a place

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Speaker 24: called Too Danny, and we used to have movies every

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Speaker 24: now and then in the local Scout Deans. Now, you've

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01:55:50,933 --> 01:55:53,893
Speaker 24: got to realize that back in the day, the scariest

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01:55:53,933 --> 01:55:56,293
Speaker 24: thing we ever saw was on the television. It was

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01:55:56,373 --> 01:55:59,213
Speaker 24: probably Enid Sharples with their heads Scout.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Now I hate to rush you, Ashley, but we've got

2591
01:56:03,173 --> 01:56:04,293
Speaker 3: about thirty seconds.

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01:56:04,812 --> 01:56:05,493
Speaker 14: Oh good, we'll this.

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Speaker 24: Will be really fast. So anyway, the name of the

2594
01:56:07,573 --> 01:56:10,453
Speaker 24: movie was called Lohr, Bobby and Rose and it was

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01:56:10,533 --> 01:56:12,693
Speaker 24: the first time in my life I saw someone get

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01:56:12,812 --> 01:56:15,293
Speaker 24: shot and I had to run to the toilet. She

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Speaker 24: haunted me till this day. I had the saut I know, right,

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01:56:20,493 --> 01:56:23,213
Speaker 24: like even your old kid. And I even googled it,

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Speaker 24: like last year. I got brave enough last year to

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Speaker 24: google it, and this was fifty years ago to see

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Speaker 24: if it was real.

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Speaker 13: And it was real.

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Speaker 6: Oh, happy Halloween.

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Actually, thank you right quickly. Your top three, okay,

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Speaker 3: my top three.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to my top six because the satanic number

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Speaker 5: Talk to Me twenty twenty two, The Cabin and the

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Speaker 5: Woods twenty eleven, Late Night with the Devil twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 5: Paranormal Activity twenty eight days later, Hereditary give a Taste

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Speaker 5: of Kiwi, Happy Halloween.

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