1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Jinny Anderson and Mark Mitchell for Politics Wednesday. Good morning 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: to you both. 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike, morning Jenny. 4 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Now brought a broad subject that you both will have 5 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: dealt with in your ministerial roles over the time. Now, Mark, 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: you weren't on this program yesterday when there I suggest 7 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: you needed to be when all of this, this this 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: retail crime stuff was breaking and there were memos flying 9 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: all over the place, and the police weren't looking at 10 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, small time crime anymore. And we rang your 11 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: office and we were told Mark's not doing any more 12 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: interviews on the subject. Now, what one, What the hell 13 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: does that mean? And where were you and why aren't 14 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: you more accountable on this stuff given you you hung 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: your hat on crime and getting it down. 16 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't. I didn't. 17 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: I didn't have visibility on that. If I knew that 18 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: you wanted to come on the show would have come immediately. 19 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: I was on with Kerry, I was on with Heather. 20 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: So office that's blocking you because this is bollocks, because 21 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: we're having the same and I won't bore you guys 22 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: with it, but I'll do it after eight thirty. We're 23 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: having the same problem with the Prime Minister at the 24 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: moment and this all these little people running around an 25 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: officer gar I'm sorry, the monster is not available at 26 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: that time of the day, I think tells that about. 27 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Well, the only the only thing that I can put 28 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: it down to is because all the media requests that 29 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: I got you today, I went on, I wasn't aware 30 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: of this one. But maybe there's a decision made because 31 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 3: I was meeting with all my local Saint John's leadership, 32 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: and it's possible that I depend on what time you 33 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 3: asked that I was in a meeting with them, because 34 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: I did meet and spend the morning with them yesterday. 35 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 36 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: But here's my thing and what we always say, and 37 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: we're doing this with the Prime Minster at the moment, 38 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm here at three in the morning, available anytime. You're like, mate, 39 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: we'll pre record it from three in the morning. And 40 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: you can't tell me there's a single minister in any 41 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: government anyone in the world you know, is not available 42 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: or busy at three o'clock in the morning. So there's 43 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: something going on with your comms and government. And for you, 44 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: this doesn't look good because we had to explain you 45 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: weren't doing interviews and you weren't available and on a 46 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: subjects that's critical for you. 47 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: Look, I agree with you entirely, and I have to 48 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: say that my entire time as police minister. I don't 49 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: I think I've missed maybe one or two interviews because 50 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: I've been tied up or been traveling. I do every 51 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: media request I get, I front up to because I 52 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: think part of democracy we need to do that. I 53 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: don't know what happened yesterday. I apologize for that. 54 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I hadn't done apologies and I don't want I don't 55 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: want to make this about me, and it's like, I'm 56 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: so important, you must front up. All I'm saying is 57 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: from your you guys point of view, and you would 58 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: understand this journey when you've said what you've said about 59 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: retail crime and what was unfolding yesterday. You need to 60 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: be front and center on that, don't you. 61 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I think she would have. I 62 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: think you Cholly Checks might have hit the rob button again. 63 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: But look, no, I'm here, I'm here, I. 64 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 5: Am here, and I thought he was asking you. I thought, 65 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: not me. 66 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: No, I just I just say, might I agree with 67 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: you? You do have to front up. 68 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: I did. 69 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: I did front up to all the media. I don't 70 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: know what happened with yours. I'll go back and find out. 71 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 3: You've got my number. 72 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: You text me. 73 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: No, that's that's that's for another day. I guess, Jenny, 74 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: do you have any sympathy on this? I mean, more importantly, 75 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: I suppose is by the time Chambers fronted up yesterday 76 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: we seem to have an answer or are you not 77 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: convinced with the answer. 78 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: I'm not convinced with the answer. The person whose response 79 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 5: was a superintendent that's very high up in police. So 80 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: even Sunny Crew, whose Mark's head of Retail Crime group, 81 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 5: as skeptical about what the order is for it to 82 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 5: be that high up the chain, and a memo given 83 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: out as indicative that there is real pressure on the 84 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: front line to be able to investigate these crimes. 85 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 86 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: But having said, do we get an answer, Mark, because 87 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the words were there in a memo and that doesn't 88 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: seem to doubtail with what you promise the people of 89 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: this country poorlywooded memo. 90 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Both both myself and the Commission have been very clear 91 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: about that. We've also been very clear that no, there 92 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: are no threesholds that if a member of the public 93 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: reports a crime regardless of the value of it, there'll 94 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: be a police response. 95 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: Now, they've always had to trios. 96 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: They've always had to prioritize because there is only so 97 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: many frontline police officers and they have to work out 98 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: and prioritize around the serious of the job. There's risks 99 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: to someone's you know, there's risk of harm, so that's 100 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: always happened, but we've been very clear that there's no threesholds. 101 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: The police are doing an outstanding job and they make 102 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: nomous We had a big mountain to climb. As the 103 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: incoming government, we'll be focused on retail violent retail crime. 104 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: We've seen some good success there, but we're also focusing 105 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: on the nonviolent retail crime that can't be solved entirely 106 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: by itself by police. We're working with the stakeholders with 107 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: the retail sector that we're doing some really good work 108 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: around there. Sonny Kelshall and his group means forward some 109 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: very very good advice around additional powers and things that 110 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: we can do to help them facial recognition, food stuffs 111 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: around an outstanding trial on that that's been very successful. 112 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: So there's lots of things that are happening in that 113 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: space to make sure that we're a safer country and 114 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: that retail employees can go to their workplace and not 115 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: feel threatened. 116 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: All right, Ginny your comment, I. 117 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: Was just interested to know why the memo was written 118 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 5: in the first place. It's superintendent within police with very 119 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 5: specific amounts of money that have been obviously talked about 120 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 5: and decided that doesn't just materialize that a funny. I mean, 121 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 5: where did that come from and why did it occur? 122 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the simple So there's that You've got 123 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 3: to like all of our police officers, including our senior 124 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: police leadership, they're trying to do the best that they can. 125 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: They're trying to provide the best possible service to the public, 126 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: and of course they have to be able to manage resources. 127 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: Probably the problem with that memos that everyone agrees that 128 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: it was poorly worded and it left the impression that 129 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: there's going to be thresholds around response by police and 130 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: both myself. 131 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: That's a question though, Mark from Jet why put a 132 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: number on it? Because all it does, I suspect, unfortunately, 133 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: is confirm what most people would believe, rightly or wrongly, 134 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: that if it's not worth much value, you're never going 135 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: to see the cops. 136 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 5: And people know that already, right, people know that under 137 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: a certain amount is really hard to get placed to 138 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 5: turn that. So, I mean, I don't accept the word 139 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: it was poorly wounded. It's pretty clear what it said. 140 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: That's nothing new. 141 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: And as the incoming policemanness, so that had been happening 142 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: under the previous government. 143 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Quite simply. 144 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: What we're trying to do is we're trying to free 145 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: up those resources. We've got the police head a sixty 146 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: percent increase in attending mental health callouts. 147 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: Many of those they don't need to be at. 148 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: It needs a proper health response to so time we've 149 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: free up resource so they can actually get to these events. 150 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Genny, let me ask you this, this, this, and it 151 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: seems to be perpetrated by you guys and as far 152 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: as I can work out radio in New Zealand, but 153 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: this obsession you guys have with having elective operations in 154 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: private hospitals, what's wrong with that? 155 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 5: That's one of the blue Well you guys being on 156 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: and on and on about it. 157 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: Suddenly you know elective elective surgery because the public health 158 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: system is the way it is, and because you should 159 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: have staff, and because you can't get so you're you're 160 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: sending some stuff out to private hospitals. Elective operations are 161 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: being done in private hospitals and all of a sudden, 162 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: all Health's breaking list because there's something wrong with that. 163 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: I just can't for the life problem, it was the problem. 164 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 5: The problem I understand is what happened under the last 165 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 5: National government is when they put in these goals of 166 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 5: how many elective surgeries they need to meet. One of them, 167 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 5: for example, is cataracts, which is really easy to do 168 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: it to quick one so you can show very quickly 169 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 5: that you get high numbers because it doesn't specify which 170 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 5: what is the electric surgery. So under the last National 171 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 5: government we saw that being used to tick the box 172 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: for reducing weight lists for elective sujeries majority of those 173 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 5: with cataracts, which let me finish. Let me finish, because cataracts, 174 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 5: because it's not knees or hips and they're the main things. 175 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: But that's sort of off the subjects as well. 176 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 6: If somebody is being used for low level performing operations 177 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 6: and they're reducing waiting lists and people are getting what 178 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 6: they want, who do what it is where it's done. 179 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 5: No, it's not, because it's other things cataracts are not 180 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 5: important as knees and hips, which are mobility. And who 181 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 5: see the quality of life? 182 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: Who says we. 183 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 5: Who are waiting three years for a knee or hip operation. 184 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: We see targets and you ballish them. So we do 185 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: set targets because we think that we should. 186 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: Because they're not targets driving them because I. 187 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Think, because I think when you set targets, it does 188 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: drive outcomes and it provides accountability. You scrapped all the targets. 189 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: We've put targets back in place. I think that's a 190 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: good thing. I've done that with raw and or as well. 191 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: But the reality of it is the labor governments. It's 192 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: a philosophical thing, like to say, with their education system. 193 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: They want us to be like the Soviet They want 194 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: to they want us to be like a Soviet term 195 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: Russian everything. 196 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Your question, though, Jenny, do you as as as an individual, 197 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: just doesn't it? Is that do you care if you 198 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: get your knee operation in a private hospital or a 199 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: public hospital? Do you care? 200 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 5: At the point is, though, Mike, is that what is 201 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: the quality of the public system and if it's used 202 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 5: to erode the quality of service in our hospitals, which 203 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 5: we see in you don't have doctors, we don't have newses. 204 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 5: We need to invece war into the service. 205 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: In the meantime, this is all I'm trying to get 206 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: to the bottom. In the meantime. If I get wrung 207 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: up and saying, Mike, your knee operations next Tuesday at 208 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: a private facility, who cares? 209 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: It really depends on what the operation is and whether 210 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: it's helping the wait list and if it if it is, 211 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 5: I see in the heart. I see in the heart 212 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: people with the services. 213 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: Like private medical provision. 214 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 5: It's because it's used to fudge the box. 215 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: It's a socialist view of the world. 216 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 3: More people depending on the government, keep everything the same, 217 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: embrace mediocrity. 218 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 4: Don't sit targets. 219 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: And that's what under socialist goverments, that's what happens, that 220 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: you drive towards mediocrity. 221 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: Right. So I know that Mike, I've got. 222 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: Norcial Hospital is my local hospital for my electorate, and 223 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: I want to do a shout out to them, because 224 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: I know that health is in the media a lot. 225 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: I get that, but the staff and there are quite 226 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: simply outstanding. And the feedback that I get from my 227 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: own constituents when they have to go to hospital. Is 228 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: the service they get as it about public health services? 229 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: Morning this morning, isn't it. The problem we do have, though, 230 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: is that there was no extra money and the budget 231 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 5: at all for health services and the population has increased 232 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 5: and health complexities. 233 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: Have been a massive increase in the budget. 234 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: Not for health, not for for health. 235 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely not money. 236 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: The hospital and hospital under the last time. 237 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 5: It was the cancer drugs. You didn't pay for it 238 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 5: in the last budget that was funded by this one. 239 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: Which one of you, which one of you is inviting 240 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: me to the pint of order? 241 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: The point you to that? Absolutely? 242 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: See as how I didn't come on the show yesterday. 243 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: I can make up for it by taking you to 244 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: the point. 245 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: Do you not know what the pint of order is? 246 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: Jenny, I don't think I don't know. It's in your pub. 247 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 5: It's exactly in the I snack in there when it's 248 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: not funny, you go, I've got to tell. But I 249 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: saw a workman in yet and I said, can I 250 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 5: have a luck? And he said sure. He was from 251 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 5: Cape Town. He was very nice and he gave me 252 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: a little tour. 253 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: Not an labor Johnny, not another migrant. Goodness, he was 254 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: lovely guy. 255 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 5: He had lots to say about the National Party to Italy. 256 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: He wasn't a National supporter. I can tell you that 257 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 5: I've got the plumbing stone very well. 258 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: He showed me what he doesn't look good. 259 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 5: It's quite small the cap that's read so Mark going 260 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 5: like that. But it looks quite lovely. It's the sort 261 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 5: of tiling almost Elfrisco type tiling and are and it 262 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: looks really pretty. 263 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Did they have always put some ruggs? 264 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: We put some rugs read some very alarm color so 265 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: you can cover that up. 266 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: Did they have a priist? 267 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 5: Mike will be rolling around on the floor anyway. 268 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: All right, nice, nice to see you guys, Jilly Anderson, 269 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: Mark Mitchell. The Pint of Order, by the way, is 270 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: the pub that's been closed ever since they expanded Parliament 271 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: buildings for new offices. 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