1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: And Jamie mckaye, Host of the Countries with us Helo 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Jamie good I Heather, Right, So what do you make 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: of the speed with which Chris Bishop has shut down 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: this talk of a water tacks. 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's far too complex for a smaller brain 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: like mine. Look, Federated Farmers and Groundswell are both jumping 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: up and down as you know about this kind of 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: hidden water attacks and the RMA reforms. I just heard 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Chris Bishop. I think we see on your show all 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: the six o'clock news or something saying, look, there's nothing 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: to see here, We're not going to enact this. I 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: don't know. I do know the industry good bodies, beef 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: and land, New ZEALANDERIANSZ, Federated Farmers are flat out doing 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: submissions to this, and I suspect this will get tied 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: up in the submission process. But I guess the industry 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: good bodies and the likes of Groundswell are just trying 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: to keep the government honest on this one. Certainly, if 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: you to take the government at their word, their intent 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: was nothing but good. 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Heather, Oh, whatever, what do you think though, you know, 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: like set aside the polos of it is their merit 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: in taxing water because basically what he's put it in 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: for is the ability for ministers to tax water in 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: order to control demand. Is that something we should be considering. 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Look, I grew up or when I was a young farmer, Heather, 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: I started farming on a property that didn't have a 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: good water boar, and we relied on rain water to 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: feed our farmhouse. When that rainwater ran out, if we 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: weren't careful with it, we had to top up from 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: the stock supply from the creek, which wasn't that flash. 31 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: To be perfectly honest, I think everyone should probably have 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: a water meet because we just waste so much of it. 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: The argument, I guess from the farming point of view 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: is that they're pouring it on to grow grass, to 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: grow protein and earn US export dollars. So yeah, when 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: it's being used wisely, I think there's no issue with that. 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: But I think most of us, most households anyhow, just 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: think of cleaning your teeth, are guilty of wasting a 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: hell of a lot of water. And if we have 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: our shower times, Heather, there would be no shortage of water. 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: There's plenty of it in this country. 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, maybe if we fixed our water pipes with 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: any other number of things is well. 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: I was in Wellington for the National Lamb Day barbecue 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. I couldn't believe it, taking a bit of 46 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: a walk run around Wellington here that there's water everywhere. 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: It's like coming out out of the road. 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, underneath the road, like it comes out underneath the 49 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: road on I think it was faston straight. I couldn't 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: believe it. 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite wild to see. 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: Now. 53 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: How much do you reckon? People love that story about 54 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: National Lamb Day. I reckon it's a whopper. 55 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: Well, it's a great story. And we've all heard the 56 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: story about the Dunedin ship of this ship duned and 57 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: leaving port charmers five thousand carcasses. Interestingly, what's often forgotten 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: is there was two hundred and forty six kegs a 59 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: butter on as well. So it wasn't only our frozen 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: meat export industry that was born on February fifteenth, eighteen 61 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: eighty two. It was also, I guess, the beginning of 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: our dairy export industry. But my favorite part of the story, 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: and it's not always included, this one here there is 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: about the captain, a guy by the name of John Whitson. 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: He'd earned a reputation on the Dunedin for completing crossings 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: from London to New Zealand and under one hundred days, 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: and he was ferrying emigrants, immigrants should I say, in 68 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: those days. So they decided to kick the old Dunedin 69 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: out with the refrigeration unit in Glasgow, and he was 70 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: charged with getting the meat from porch Armers that originally 71 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: came from Omaru from the Totaah estate. They shipped it 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: down or put it on the rail down to port Armers. 73 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: Off it went. They were going through the tropics and 74 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: sparks started flying in the refrigeration hold and they were 75 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: worried the whole lot would be ruined if the refrigeration 76 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: failed to refrigerate. So Captain Whitson crawled inside the cold chamber, 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: the frozen chamber, he drilled holes to recirculate the air. 78 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: The crew eventually pulled them out with the rope. And yet, 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: despite his near loss of life and the potential loss 80 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: of the cargo, ninety eight days later the Dunedin arrived 81 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: in London. The meat arrived at the Smithfield Market for sale. 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: Only one carcass was deemed unfit for sale, and the 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: local butchers, the London butchers praise the quality of the meat. 84 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: It's just a great story heroicism. 85 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: It really is a great Yeah. Hey, thank you very much, 86 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: Jamie appreciated. Jammie McKay, host of the Country. 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drave, listen live to 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 89 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.