1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Got another healthy set of books for another gen Taylor. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Mercury's recorded a net profit of twenty million dollars for 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: the first half of the year. That's up from last 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: year sixty seven million dollar loss in the chief executive 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Stu Hamilton joins us. Now, high stup, Hi, how are 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: you very well? Good to talk to you again. I'm 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: not tempted to do a capital raise like the others. 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: No, No, we're in a position which we think is 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: well managed. We've been disciplined and how we manage our money, 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: how we earn our money and spend it. So we're 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: investing wisely, performing strongly, and think that gives us options 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: without having to go and seek capital from our owners. 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Now, I have heard some commentary today blaming the high 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: power prices that we're all paying across the country on 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: high dividends and you've lifted dual dividends. Is that a 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: fair point that's been made. 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: No, I can understand why people will be thinking that way. Like, 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: there's a tough time in New Zealand and energy prices 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: certainly contribute to the cost of living, but there's a 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: number of things we do and actually to try and 21 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: bring that down and part of that is taking over 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: half of the money we earn and investing at back 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: and our current power plants and a new power plant. 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on LNG. 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: We're broadly supportive of LERG. I think the thing that's 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: trying to be solved here is to come up with 27 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: a mechanism that ensures that in the dry years we've 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: got something that backs us up. Now, we had to 29 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: look at ourselves and for Mercury we didn't see it 30 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: necessary to fit inside our suite of our sets in portfolio. 31 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: But I think overall for New Zealand, depending on how 32 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: that the prices flow through, it's probably something that should 33 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: be part of the mix. But it's probably part of 34 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: the mix, it's not the whole mix. 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: What price does it have to be to be cheaper 36 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: than coal? 37 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: So if coal comes in, it typically sets a ceiling 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: of what the price should be and typically somewhere around 39 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: that two hundred two hundred and fifty dollars per megal 40 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: hour for coal, which means that LNGE gas coming into 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: New Zealand probably needs to be around that fifteen to 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: twenty dollars per gigadul range which. 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Is coming on at twenty five. 44 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it might be a little bit. So what 45 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: it wind up doing is set a ceiling on what 46 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: the price could go to during those dry years back 47 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, when we had that period of 48 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: high wholesale power prices and they went up to about 49 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars for Mega what hour. This would set 50 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: a cap which means that it shouldn't be heading up. 51 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: There should be sort of capped around that two hundred 52 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: and fifty to three hundred dollars. 53 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Nip yaph Okay, I really appreciate you talking to them. 54 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: By the way, are putting up power prices this year. 55 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: The power prices are typically going up around that five 56 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: to seven percent, but a big chunk of that is 57 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: associated with lines and transmission increases. 58 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: Okay, she you. Thank you as always, ste Hamilton, Mercury's 59 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: chief executive. 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