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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Welcome into Weekend Sport. It's a Saturday, fourteenth

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Speaker 3: to Mark twenty twenty six, seven after midday. My name's

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Speaker 3: Darcy Walter Grave sitting in for the magnificent Jason Pine

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Speaker 3: for the afternoon. Very much looking forward to this show

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Speaker 3: and everything we can provide to you in the sporting

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Speaker 3: birthday to Sir Bob Charles ninety years old today. That

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Speaker 3: have today plenty to sink our teeth into. Are we

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Speaker 3: talking with Stacy Jones up after one o'clock about the

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Speaker 3: phenomenal performance of the Warriors last night at go Media

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Speaker 3: Stadium as they well they literally rinsed the canber Raiders.

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Speaker 3: The weather was atrocious. We got to Adam Peacock, he's

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Speaker 3: Six Nations and what a competition that has been so far.

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Speaker 3: BBC Rugby correspondent Chris Jones joins us up after two.

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Speaker 3: We got a Nick Becker. He's Legrond from ours, the

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Speaker 3: CEO of Auckland FC. Big test taking on the Newcastle

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Speaker 3: you the clay Target World Champs. We're covering that off

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Speaker 3: former Chief Executive of New Zealand Cricket Justin Vaughn, as

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Speaker 1: Twelve, analyzing the plays and getting the inside weekends for

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Speaker 3: It's a smolding and bubbling story. What is happening within

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Speaker 3: Z twenty, What is happening with franchise Cricket. What is

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Speaker 4: Hi, Justin, Yeah, get a Darcy.

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Speaker 5: Good to hear your voice again after quite a bit

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Speaker 3: Break, indeed, and thanks very much for acquiescing to this demand.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand cricket is in a very interesting state right

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Speaker 3: now and that is probably the biggest understatement of the year.

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Speaker 3: It's very much a modern phenomenon. It's that whole tech talk,

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Speaker 3: I think New Zealand Cricket have been very nimble so

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Speaker 5: Challenges that have faced the board and you know, the

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Speaker 5: This is a decision which, as I said, has got

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Speaker 5: That isn't to say that you don't make any decision.

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Speaker 3: and he finishes with this wonderful quote, it's hard to

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Speaker 5: Yes, there are forces pulling you in many different directions.

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Speaker 3: a tremendous weekend.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, Darsy, good to talk to.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the only sensible way of looking forward.

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Speaker 3: got a few thoughts on the subject. Greetings, welcome to

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Speaker 7: Got to Darcy, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: M The golden rule, Dace, whoever's got the gold makes

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Speaker 8: I've talked to Pioneer a bit about this, b c

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Speaker 8: They're basically the same thing. You saw the carry on

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Speaker 3: So this is the concern of mine. And you say

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Speaker 3: So you've got to be careful what you wish for.

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Speaker 3: You let them in, they won't go away. You can't

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but we're on our knees Darcy. Anyway, actually, and

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Speaker 10: The womb of it.

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Speaker 8: So I'm like, get the men, get the commercials tight.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, to get their cat right, get their cat. Our

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Speaker 3: which doesn't happen that much in this day and age.

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Speaker 3: It is twelve thirty three summer, right, wouldn't be the

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Speaker 3: same without cricket, and that's what we're discussing. So it

436
00:27:06,627 --> 00:27:09,707
Speaker 3: might be stumps for holiday beach cricket. Granted it's over,

437
00:27:09,787 --> 00:27:12,507
Speaker 3: but South Africa is in the country and they're taking

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Speaker 3: on our white ferns and our black caps in a

439
00:27:15,067 --> 00:27:17,787
Speaker 3: series of double heads so we all know how it works.

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Speaker 3: You check the forecast, I know, six seven times the

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Speaker 3: day before. But here's something really cool for you if

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446
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Speaker 1: Where the weekend's biggest calls are made, we can sport

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Speaker 1: with Dancy and GJ. Gardnomes New Zealand's most trusted home

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Speaker 3: That'd be twelve thirty seven. This is weekend Sport on

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Speaker 3: Darcy Watergrave In for Jason Pine taking your calls on

459
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Speaker 3: our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty around the future

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00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:26,147
Speaker 3: of franchise cricket of New Zealand cricket. That decision is

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Speaker 3: in the offing. We believe that's going to be released

462
00:28:30,147 --> 00:28:33,667
Speaker 3: next week to the best of my knowledge. So m

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Speaker 3: Z twenty looks like it's the favorite. It looks like

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Speaker 3: it's going to get the nod. It's franchise cricket, it's big.

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00:28:39,707 --> 00:28:44,387
Speaker 3: It's up against three other major franchise cricket competitions, the

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Speaker 3: IL twenty, the Big Bash and the SA twenty. So

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Speaker 3: in cohoots with that. Basically, it's going to kill off

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Speaker 3: international cricket in January, if it's not dead already, and

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Speaker 3: it probably is. Is that acceptable to you? The only

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Speaker 3: consonant is change. Are you willing to take on board

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Speaker 3: that change and run with those hounds?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighties of news Talk ZMB

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Speaker 3: lines are open. We go now to Rich. Good afternoon

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah afternoon, Darcy. How I make you good? Yeah?

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00:29:18,587 --> 00:29:19,387
Speaker 3: Very well? Yourself?

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00:29:20,627 --> 00:29:20,827
Speaker 13: Yeah?

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00:29:20,907 --> 00:29:21,547
Speaker 8: Not too bad?

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Speaker 6: Hey, this whole is this whole New Zealand T twenty.

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00:29:24,787 --> 00:29:27,827
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm all for that being in January, but

482
00:29:28,427 --> 00:29:31,747
Speaker 6: my only concern is that you are. I'm on the

483
00:29:31,787 --> 00:29:34,267
Speaker 6: lines of what you're saying, it just feels does feel

484
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Speaker 6: like it's being rushed a bit.

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Speaker 11: I mean we all see that.

486
00:29:37,187 --> 00:29:40,347
Speaker 6: Have domestic competition needs work, and you know when you

487
00:29:40,427 --> 00:29:42,627
Speaker 6: go look at other leagues, like we're the only ones.

488
00:29:42,387 --> 00:29:44,267
Speaker 12: That don't have a front, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, a league that's like ones like Australia and one

490
00:29:47,507 --> 00:29:49,987
Speaker 6: hundred and stuff like that. But when you go look

491
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Speaker 6: at next summer, Darcy, we've got a forty series in

492
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Speaker 6: Australia that's going to creep into January and then we

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Speaker 6: come back and we've got Sri Lankas. So how many

494
00:29:58,947 --> 00:30:01,027
Speaker 6: of our top new zeald players are going to be

495
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Speaker 6: playing in that when they're going to be unavailable. I

496
00:30:03,467 --> 00:30:05,827
Speaker 6: mean we've got a fourties series in Australia. It's going

497
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Speaker 6: to go probably into the second week of January anyway.

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Speaker 14: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just I'm all for it, But starting next summer,

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Speaker 6: I don't think it works.

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Speaker 3: Hog tie it. There's not a lot you can do

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Speaker 3: about it because the players are going to go, oh,

503
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Speaker 3: I love test cricket all it's very important. All would say,

504
00:30:23,587 --> 00:30:25,987
Speaker 3: are going to take the money and you understand that,

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00:30:26,107 --> 00:30:28,947
Speaker 3: you absolutely do. So that's why I go backward to

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Speaker 3: this concept. Whoever's running international cricket, they've got to stand

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Speaker 3: up and actually make a decision. These are when the

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Speaker 3: franchise cricket competition's run. These are our international windows, just

509
00:30:41,307 --> 00:30:45,587
Speaker 3: like what happens in global football. Now you start operating.

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Speaker 3: We haven't got that decision yet. Will that come and

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Speaker 3: how soon it will take? That's the big thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I think when you go look at it, Darcy,

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Speaker 6: I mean I think you probably have a Test tour,

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Speaker 6: you know, in that.

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Speaker 15: November of time.

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Speaker 9: I mean, whether it can be a bit shaky.

517
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Speaker 6: Before Christmas, and then you've got one in February March,

518
00:31:04,867 --> 00:31:07,587
Speaker 6: and it makes sense to have a league in that

519
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Speaker 6: Genuary window. But I just don't see how you're going

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Speaker 6: to get those two players. I mean, as you said before,

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00:31:15,067 --> 00:31:18,667
Speaker 6: it's about it's about the money. But our top player

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00:31:18,707 --> 00:31:20,547
Speaker 6: is going to miss out going to Australia. I mean

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Speaker 6: that's the pinnacle. I don't think you're going to I

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00:31:22,947 --> 00:31:25,107
Speaker 6: don't think our players are going to say no, we

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00:31:25,147 --> 00:31:26,427
Speaker 6: don't want to be a part of this. We want

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Speaker 6: to be part of the T twenty coup. I mean,

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Speaker 6: how often do we play Australia and how often have

528
00:31:31,107 --> 00:31:33,147
Speaker 6: we played for testings in their own country?

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Speaker 3: And what do you remember the results of the Caribbean

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Speaker 3: Premier League or test matches?

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Speaker 6: I think you know, well, we all remember how last

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00:31:44,707 --> 00:31:47,267
Speaker 6: time we saw it Australia's see, that's on my mind.

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Speaker 6: But when it comes to T twenty, sorry mate, I

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Speaker 6: I don't remember, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, precisely, Rich, thanks very much for your inport one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to contribute

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00:31:58,467 --> 00:32:01,547
Speaker 3: to the talk around T twenty. Here's the other side

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Speaker 3: of it too. We don't know enough. It's not officially anyway,

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00:32:04,787 --> 00:32:08,747
Speaker 3: You've got a rough idea about the financials behind an

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00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:13,627
Speaker 3: n Z twenty. Where does the money come from? Is

541
00:32:13,707 --> 00:32:18,147
Speaker 3: there shadowy overlord that's providing a great deal of the

542
00:32:18,187 --> 00:32:21,947
Speaker 3: income that maybe it's got its hooks into South Africa,

543
00:32:22,987 --> 00:32:26,907
Speaker 3: into the IPL, into English cricket too, that will end

544
00:32:26,987 --> 00:32:29,747
Speaker 3: up running the whole show. And that's sort of talk

545
00:32:29,867 --> 00:32:33,067
Speaker 3: about when it comes to losing control of the game.

546
00:32:33,547 --> 00:32:35,867
Speaker 3: That's one aspect. Where does the money, what structures does

547
00:32:35,907 --> 00:32:39,147
Speaker 3: it take? Who runs the show? Where's the power? These

548
00:32:39,147 --> 00:32:42,147
Speaker 3: things are unanswered to us anyway. Maybe the board knows

549
00:32:42,467 --> 00:32:45,547
Speaker 3: and when we get to in Z twenty, which I

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00:32:45,587 --> 00:32:50,027
Speaker 3: believe is likely. How many players internationally going to come

551
00:32:50,067 --> 00:32:54,827
Speaker 3: over for that? Is it going to encourage more people

552
00:32:54,867 --> 00:32:57,307
Speaker 3: to go along and watch these we know super smashes?

553
00:32:57,347 --> 00:32:59,627
Speaker 3: Undersubscribe because it hasn't got the rock stars. Are New

554
00:32:59,747 --> 00:33:04,707
Speaker 3: Zealand rock stars enough to fill four to six franchises

555
00:33:04,747 --> 00:33:07,427
Speaker 3: wherever they come out of. When there's the chance for

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00:33:07,467 --> 00:33:10,067
Speaker 3: international players to maybe play in the Big Bash, to

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00:33:10,147 --> 00:33:14,787
Speaker 3: maybe play SA twenty, to maybe play L twenty, she's

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00:33:14,387 --> 00:33:19,627
Speaker 3: a fairly thread bear talent pool. To be fair. It

559
00:33:19,707 --> 00:33:22,907
Speaker 3: is eighteen that minutes to one. If you'd like to

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Speaker 3: discuss this further, by all means, I'd love to hear

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Speaker 3: from you a eight hundred eighty ten eighty three pone

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Speaker 3: number nationwide you we can text nineteen nine two ZBZB.

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Speaker 3: A standard text charge does apply. More from you coming

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Speaker 3: up shortly. A couple of texts for you as well.

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Speaker 3: This is news Talk is ZB It is twelve forty three.

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Speaker 2: LO TMO LO DRS.

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Speaker 1: Just your call on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Dancy Watergrave and GJ. Gud No Homes, New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's first trusted home builder News talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twelve forty six on weekend a sport couple of texts

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Speaker 3: asking about the Warriors. Don't worry, will be talking about

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Speaker 3: them in the next hour. Assistant coach and what are

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00:34:07,427 --> 00:34:10,027
Speaker 3: the goats of rugby league in New Zealand? Stacy Jones

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00:34:10,307 --> 00:34:12,747
Speaker 3: will join us up after one o'clock and we'll take

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Speaker 3: your calls after that. We've got a call coming up.

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Speaker 3: Just I'll give you a couple of texts. Someone's really

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00:34:18,867 --> 00:34:21,827
Speaker 3: liked my cheese references today. I didn't pack them all

578
00:34:21,907 --> 00:34:25,507
Speaker 3: up deliberately, but Legron fromage is one of my favorites.

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Speaker 3: Talking about the big cheese of any competition. Someone said, look,

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Speaker 3: I just gave away my tickets to the Wellington black

581
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Speaker 3: Caps match after learning some players are being rested ahead

582
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Speaker 3: of the IPL. I want to watch top level cricket.

583
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Speaker 3: I want to see our stars in action here at home,

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00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:48,987
Speaker 3: and they're not. And that is a relevant, relevant comment.

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00:34:49,627 --> 00:34:53,147
Speaker 3: If they've got proper international windows, maybe we don't have

586
00:34:53,467 --> 00:34:56,667
Speaker 3: that drama. A couple of nice complimentary texts as well.

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Speaker 3: I very much appreciate that positivity. Nineteen ninety ZBZB snaty

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Speaker 3: text charge does apply, Jim, you've got the floor. What's up.

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Speaker 7: Look, I think you're dead right. We've got an incredible

590
00:35:10,987 --> 00:35:15,627
Speaker 7: opportunity here right now, probably an unprecedented opportunity for New

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00:35:15,667 --> 00:35:19,787
Speaker 7: Zealand cricket in terms of the money that is broadly

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Speaker 7: floating around and up for grabs for the game here.

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00:35:23,827 --> 00:35:29,107
Speaker 7: I just think it's incredibly difficult for the leaders of

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Speaker 7: our sport to work out how best to approach that.

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Speaker 7: You know, on one hand, you've got all the traditional ways,

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00:35:37,387 --> 00:35:40,987
Speaker 7: the traditional formats that we've got with our domestic game

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00:35:41,027 --> 00:35:42,907
Speaker 7: and our international game that we've been talking about and

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00:35:42,947 --> 00:35:45,467
Speaker 7: you heard from Justin Vaughan on But on the other hand,

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Speaker 7: we've got this sort of exciting opportunity to have international investment.

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Speaker 7: And you know, the money that ultimately supports the game

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00:35:52,987 --> 00:35:57,587
Speaker 7: is only only it's only finite, and you know it,

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00:35:57,827 --> 00:35:59,947
Speaker 7: and traditionally it comes from television rights, it comes from

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00:35:59,987 --> 00:36:04,547
Speaker 7: sponsorship and the old ticket sale. But here we've got

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Speaker 7: an opportunity to get in international money from offshore to

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Speaker 7: really see our game up for the future. So it's

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00:36:11,227 --> 00:36:13,027
Speaker 7: it's a difficult one and I wouldn't want to be

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00:36:13,027 --> 00:36:16,307
Speaker 7: in the seed of the board members, but somehow they've

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00:36:16,307 --> 00:36:18,467
Speaker 7: got to work out how do we how do we

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Speaker 7: make the most of this opportunity and maximize the opportunity

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Speaker 7: to preserve the game for the future generations here in

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Speaker 7: New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: I suggest patients plainly and look forward and understand what

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Speaker 3: outcomes may present. But also if you sit around on

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Speaker 3: your hands and do nothing, that's it's almost worse than

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Speaker 3: that situation, and that worries me. Another ointment fly if

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Speaker 3: you will around This is the engagement from the major

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Speaker 3: sponsors and broadcasters. If suddenly you start diminishing the import

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Speaker 3: of international cricket, what happens to Sky, what happens to

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Speaker 3: these companies that pay big money to be involved in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand cricket? Do they just simply go, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 3: I'm walking away. That's a problem.

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Speaker 7: They did, Yeah, you did right down. Because if you

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Speaker 7: take out January of that one day and you've got

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00:37:04,107 --> 00:37:06,827
Speaker 7: all those other key twenty leagues that you talked about,

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00:37:06,947 --> 00:37:09,907
Speaker 7: plus this in Z twenty, you take out the January window,

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Speaker 7: which is our sort of our premiere months for cricket

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Speaker 7: in this country, and and then you're right, those revenue

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00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:20,907
Speaker 7: streams dry up. So and at the moment, my understanding

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Speaker 7: is every dollar that goes into the sport in the country,

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00:37:24,267 --> 00:37:26,907
Speaker 7: comes in through New Zealand Crickets, So it comes in

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00:37:26,907 --> 00:37:30,027
Speaker 7: that door and then goes out to the major associations

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Speaker 7: and ultimately the players and grassroots game. And you know,

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00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:38,267
Speaker 7: if that money dries up and it's not coming into

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Speaker 7: z see but it's going in through private enterprise, you know,

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00:37:42,867 --> 00:37:44,907
Speaker 7: how does that work? How does the trickle down effect work?

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00:37:44,947 --> 00:37:48,347
Speaker 7: How does how do we preserve the quality of And

637
00:37:48,347 --> 00:37:50,427
Speaker 7: we've got some real talent in this country right now,

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Speaker 7: and you know, there's a it's on a little bit

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00:37:52,707 --> 00:37:55,547
Speaker 7: of an up up surge and we've you know, we've

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Speaker 7: got some great young players coming through. How do we

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00:37:58,307 --> 00:38:01,507
Speaker 7: ensure that we look after our four day formats format

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Speaker 7: and the other formats?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and trickle down as a fallacy on who coined

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00:38:06,187 --> 00:38:09,427
Speaker 3: that phrase originally, But it doesn't work. Everyone knows it's

645
00:38:09,467 --> 00:38:11,947
Speaker 3: a lie, so we can't run with that. Well, look, Jim,

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00:38:12,027 --> 00:38:16,387
Speaker 3: what gets me on this too is that your primary

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00:38:16,507 --> 00:38:22,827
Speaker 3: funding is coming from overseas investors, be it BCCI or

648
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:28,427
Speaker 3: one of those major franchises involved with IPL Cricket. Then

649
00:38:28,787 --> 00:38:33,427
Speaker 3: you start giving them the control because they've got the money,

650
00:38:33,427 --> 00:38:36,267
Speaker 3: and we go back to a previous caller talking about

651
00:38:36,267 --> 00:38:39,627
Speaker 3: the golden rule, and you've got to be very careful

652
00:38:39,947 --> 00:38:43,347
Speaker 3: in that space and the haste and the speed. Sure,

653
00:38:43,547 --> 00:38:46,147
Speaker 3: don't sit on your hands. But how many scams have

654
00:38:46,227 --> 00:38:48,787
Speaker 3: you seen Jim coming through your inbox or on your

655
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:52,187
Speaker 3: phone saying act now, you'll get twenty percent off if

656
00:38:52,227 --> 00:38:54,467
Speaker 3: you don't do it in twenty four hours, This won't

657
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Speaker 3: exist in it now. Now, now, how does that end up?

658
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I totally agree. It's I think the devil will

659
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Speaker 7: be in the detail. It'd be interesting to see when

660
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Speaker 7: when we get to know what that detail is, because

661
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Speaker 7: I just don't think the average punter is aware of it.

662
00:39:08,787 --> 00:39:10,907
Speaker 7: And I think that's what Scott when it was trying

663
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Speaker 7: to do. I think he was trying to get all

664
00:39:12,067 --> 00:39:15,547
Speaker 7: the options with detail on the table and his cat

665
00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:16,627
Speaker 7: shortens endeavors there.

666
00:39:16,827 --> 00:39:19,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was because it's not not popular on the board.

667
00:39:20,107 --> 00:39:23,347
Speaker 3: Look from what I know, from what I believe there is,

668
00:39:24,347 --> 00:39:27,267
Speaker 3: it's going to go ahead with n Z twenty. I

669
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Speaker 3: don't bet on that. This is just my knowledge here

670
00:39:30,707 --> 00:39:33,787
Speaker 3: and it's not all one way traffic from the board,

671
00:39:34,107 --> 00:39:37,027
Speaker 3: but it is favored by the majority of the board,

672
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Speaker 3: and I just presume and hope they've done the due diligence.

673
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Speaker 3: This is News Talk z B. My name's Darcy water Go,

674
00:39:43,147 --> 00:39:47,067
Speaker 3: filling in for Jason Pine here on Weekend Sport.

675
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Speaker 4: Up.

676
00:39:47,587 --> 00:39:51,387
Speaker 3: Shortly up after the latest news, sport and weather, Stacy

677
00:39:51,467 --> 00:39:55,947
Speaker 3: Jones joins the show as we celebrate the Warriors. Oh my,

678
00:39:56,347 --> 00:40:00,667
Speaker 3: oh my water performance that was. It's eight minutes to one.

679
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Speaker 1: The big names and the big calls on your home

680
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Speaker 1: of Weekend Sport with Darcy Waldegrave News Talk Civvy.

681
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Speaker 3: It's five to one Sport news and whether on the horizon.

682
00:40:14,347 --> 00:40:16,547
Speaker 3: I put sport first because it's very important. Up after that,

683
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Speaker 3: Stacy Jones joins us we can celebrate the Warriors and

684
00:40:20,227 --> 00:40:24,187
Speaker 3: that absolute pantsing of the Raiders last night. There to

685
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Speaker 3: be fund Just a couple of quick texts for you

686
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:29,707
Speaker 3: before we wander off to that news package. We need

687
00:40:29,747 --> 00:40:33,067
Speaker 3: better touring teams coming here for a start. There's only

688
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Speaker 3: so much of Sri Lanka in the West Indies I

689
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Speaker 3: can handle. Darcy, I just picked up on the conversation

690
00:40:38,507 --> 00:40:41,227
Speaker 3: read T twenty a quick observation. A few short years ago.

691
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Speaker 3: I recall going to a packed up were a park

692
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Speaker 3: of summer to watch the Central Stags play Domestic T twenty.

693
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Speaker 3: I don't get why they drop off in crowd attendance,

694
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Speaker 3: but I reckon it's got something to do with the

695
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Speaker 3: lack of promotion, marketing and advertising by in z C

696
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Speaker 3: and to boot, the results don't even get reported on

697
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Speaker 3: TV news.

698
00:41:02,747 --> 00:41:03,147
Speaker 12: Wow.

699
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Speaker 3: Would the well paid players be so well pay without

700
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Speaker 3: New Zealand Crickets input and training them. Perhaps they need

701
00:41:10,387 --> 00:41:13,987
Speaker 3: to donate some of what they earn now, thank you

702
00:41:14,147 --> 00:41:16,747
Speaker 3: very much for that, Bob. Thanks very much for your text.

703
00:41:16,827 --> 00:41:20,387
Speaker 3: More coming up shortly. Let's head now into the latest

704
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Speaker 3: and news sport and we're here at News Talks EB.

705
00:41:25,947 --> 00:41:29,147
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

706
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Speaker 1: the head off the field.

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Speaker 2: You got a story.

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Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Darcy Waltergrave on your

709
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Speaker 1: home of sport News.

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Speaker 2: Talks MB.

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Speaker 3: Seven after one Saturday afternoon Fourting to Mark twenty twenty six,

712
00:41:48,227 --> 00:41:51,907
Speaker 3: I'm Darcy Walter Grave filling in for Jason Pinea's Weekend Sport.

713
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your attention, plenty of your interactions

714
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Speaker 3: still to come. Nine two nine two is the text

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Speaker 3: line standard text charge does apply. We'll give us a ring.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you want to ring our first guest of this hour.

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Speaker 3: Later on the piece, Adam Peacock had joins the program

719
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Speaker 3: here as our Australian correspondent And up after two o'clock

720
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Speaker 3: we go to the BBC's Chris Jones as we look

721
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Speaker 3: at the frankly bonkers six Nations and how that is unfolded.

722
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Speaker 3: But first up, first and first serve, we have mister

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Speaker 3: Stacey Jones here on Newstalk zb It's eight minutes after one.

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Speaker 3: How good are the Warriors? How good? Absolutely on fire.

725
00:42:39,627 --> 00:42:42,427
Speaker 3: They've won their first two games of the season for

726
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Speaker 3: the first time since twenty eighteen. They demolished the Canberra

727
00:42:47,987 --> 00:42:51,387
Speaker 3: Raiders in a well a sudden affair and a dominant

728
00:42:51,507 --> 00:42:54,547
Speaker 3: second half at Mount Smart last night.

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Speaker 13: That's Warriors Heavens. Warri's Cameron George can time.

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Speaker 12: Full time.

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Speaker 13: Here are do media about Smart Stadium in Auckland.

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Speaker 4: The Warriors don't.

733
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Speaker 13: Tell it no, they had camera forty.

734
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Speaker 2: Points to six.

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Speaker 3: The excitement from sky TV. One of our very own

736
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Speaker 3: Ben Dua with that that commentary in joining us now

737
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Speaker 3: assistant coach Stacey Jones. Stacy Stacey, have you stopped smiling

738
00:43:32,907 --> 00:43:33,867
Speaker 3: that second?

739
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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, looked USI was was real pleasing. You know, we

741
00:43:39,947 --> 00:43:43,347
Speaker 16: focused a lot on the little things and we wanted

742
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Speaker 16: to bring a physical focus to the game, and the

743
00:43:47,667 --> 00:43:51,707
Speaker 16: boys certainly did that right across the field. You know,

744
00:43:51,747 --> 00:43:54,787
Speaker 16: there wasn't a bad performance at also a real good

745
00:43:56,067 --> 00:43:58,427
Speaker 16: team performance from from the group.

746
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Speaker 12: And yeah, I look very very happy with how they played.

747
00:44:02,667 --> 00:44:06,427
Speaker 3: Talk about pleasing, I think the weather wasn't but the

748
00:44:06,467 --> 00:44:09,947
Speaker 3: way that the team managed to handle those conditions, to

749
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Speaker 3: handle the ball as opposed to camera and you'd expect

750
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Speaker 3: Camber also playing rubbish rubbish weather over in the act.

751
00:44:18,867 --> 00:44:22,027
Speaker 3: They just couldn't deal with those conditions. So what do

752
00:44:22,027 --> 00:44:24,707
Speaker 3: you put down that the hand to the Warriors? Why

753
00:44:24,707 --> 00:44:25,707
Speaker 3: did that work so? Well?

754
00:44:26,107 --> 00:44:26,267
Speaker 4: Oh?

755
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Speaker 12: Look, you know we played a simple, simple game, Darcy.

756
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Speaker 16: We just you know the old cliche, get to the

757
00:44:31,467 --> 00:44:33,267
Speaker 16: end of the sets and put a kick in and

758
00:44:34,267 --> 00:44:36,947
Speaker 16: put some pressure back on them. I thought our Tanner

759
00:44:36,987 --> 00:44:40,147
Speaker 16: boys kicking game was was spot on. You know, we

760
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Speaker 16: lost and now early and the piece and you know

761
00:44:42,907 --> 00:44:45,787
Speaker 16: he really took the reins on that and I just

762
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Speaker 16: felt our backfield really competed when they needed to and

763
00:44:49,907 --> 00:44:53,547
Speaker 16: forced eras you know on on Canbra's backfield, and you

764
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Speaker 16: know we got some joy out of that. Really we

765
00:44:55,867 --> 00:44:57,947
Speaker 16: you know, we made our own luck by working hard,

766
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Speaker 16: you know round our kick chase part of the game

767
00:45:00,707 --> 00:45:04,427
Speaker 16: and you know put it back on Canberra and especially

768
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Speaker 16: in that second half the first half are real resilient

769
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Speaker 16: with our with our game six all at half time

770
00:45:09,827 --> 00:45:11,587
Speaker 16: and you know we were.

771
00:45:11,427 --> 00:45:13,827
Speaker 12: Just getting in a grind with them.

772
00:45:13,827 --> 00:45:16,027
Speaker 16: And you know the second half, you know, the wind

773
00:45:16,587 --> 00:45:19,227
Speaker 16: was in our favor and you know we turned turn

774
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Speaker 16: the screws on them.

775
00:45:20,707 --> 00:45:24,827
Speaker 3: Defense is one thing, attacks the other thing. But you'd suggest, yes,

776
00:45:24,907 --> 00:45:28,827
Speaker 3: the attacking form was amazing, but the way you managed

777
00:45:28,827 --> 00:45:31,827
Speaker 3: to stop them pretty much getting over there whitewash, that's

778
00:45:31,867 --> 00:45:34,707
Speaker 3: got to be huge part of this team success.

779
00:45:35,187 --> 00:45:35,427
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Look they're really scrambling really well, that's what they did

781
00:45:38,147 --> 00:45:42,507
Speaker 16: last night, and you know we attacked with our defense

782
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Speaker 16: of that. I thought, you know, our contact and Slade Griffin,

783
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Speaker 16: our defensive coach, was was really happy after the game

784
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Speaker 16: with how the how the boys chased the contact part

785
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Speaker 16: of it and.

786
00:45:52,627 --> 00:45:53,947
Speaker 12: Enforced the eras on you.

787
00:45:54,067 --> 00:45:56,947
Speaker 16: Because they play an expensive game camera they like to

788
00:45:56,987 --> 00:46:00,227
Speaker 16: offload the ball, especially with Joey Tappeny and Corey Hausberg

789
00:46:00,307 --> 00:46:02,747
Speaker 16: and Hudson Young, those type of players that that do

790
00:46:02,987 --> 00:46:04,627
Speaker 16: like to promote the footing, and then they got us

791
00:46:04,707 --> 00:46:07,067
Speaker 16: last year with the way they played, and I just

792
00:46:07,107 --> 00:46:11,787
Speaker 16: thought that, you know, we we contact contacted them really

793
00:46:11,787 --> 00:46:15,547
Speaker 16: well together as a group, you know, which stopped them

794
00:46:15,547 --> 00:46:17,267
Speaker 16: from from offloading the footy.

795
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Speaker 3: Cleaned up some holes as well in the mid that

796
00:46:20,627 --> 00:46:24,147
Speaker 3: first game there. It was a fantastic performance there, but

797
00:46:24,227 --> 00:46:27,347
Speaker 3: there were some glaring holes up the middle. That's been

798
00:46:27,507 --> 00:46:29,907
Speaker 3: see what off You've obviously worked on that.

799
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Speaker 16: Too, you know, we have, like I just again, you know,

800
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Speaker 16: controlling the early part of the of a set, you know,

801
00:46:37,027 --> 00:46:39,667
Speaker 16: certainly makes things a lot easier the back end, you know,

802
00:46:39,747 --> 00:46:42,867
Speaker 16: and you control that part of the game, and you know,

803
00:46:43,067 --> 00:46:46,427
Speaker 16: just a process you sort of we call it complementary footy.

804
00:46:47,387 --> 00:46:49,747
Speaker 16: You know, we're one part of our game looks looks

805
00:46:49,787 --> 00:46:52,507
Speaker 16: after the other part. So and we put it all together.

806
00:46:53,427 --> 00:46:55,547
Speaker 3: When you look at the way the game started, and

807
00:46:55,587 --> 00:46:59,147
Speaker 3: you touched on that already. So I need some injury updates.

808
00:46:59,227 --> 00:47:01,427
Speaker 3: But the fact that you lost in now so early

809
00:47:01,907 --> 00:47:05,147
Speaker 3: I had to change the harvest combination. That says a

810
00:47:05,187 --> 00:47:08,907
Speaker 3: lot about the reality of players to adjust on the fly.

811
00:47:09,507 --> 00:47:11,107
Speaker 3: He had a problem with the skipper as well, but

812
00:47:11,227 --> 00:47:14,787
Speaker 3: he came back. So tell us where now is it

813
00:47:14,907 --> 00:47:17,547
Speaker 3: the moment? What about Charms? Where's he at? And of

814
00:47:17,587 --> 00:47:20,787
Speaker 3: course to start the game, you lost Capewell and I

815
00:47:20,827 --> 00:47:24,027
Speaker 3: believe that's the most pressing injury concern stas.

816
00:47:24,387 --> 00:47:29,787
Speaker 12: Yeah. Look, KP Porter's calf in the warm up, so.

817
00:47:32,107 --> 00:47:35,267
Speaker 16: We had to start a player who was pretty good

818
00:47:35,307 --> 00:47:38,027
Speaker 16: in lacquer Elise Man. He really stepped up to the plate,

819
00:47:38,107 --> 00:47:42,267
Speaker 16: So obviously disappointing when you lose KP like that.

820
00:47:42,387 --> 00:47:47,827
Speaker 12: And then we lost Chanel and you know, then we

821
00:47:47,827 --> 00:47:48,467
Speaker 12: were able.

822
00:47:48,267 --> 00:47:51,747
Speaker 16: To bring on tange Torpick you I thought was outstanding

823
00:47:52,147 --> 00:47:57,467
Speaker 16: his performance and moving chants to the halves, so you know,

824
00:47:57,507 --> 00:48:00,147
Speaker 16: we were able to just put players in position and

825
00:48:00,187 --> 00:48:02,307
Speaker 16: they did a did a wonderful job for us.

826
00:48:02,667 --> 00:48:06,107
Speaker 3: So it's early doors, But what's the initial assessment on

827
00:48:06,547 --> 00:48:09,227
Speaker 3: what the future is for for Chance, for Channel and

828
00:48:09,267 --> 00:48:09,747
Speaker 3: for Kurt.

829
00:48:10,347 --> 00:48:13,907
Speaker 16: Yeah, sorry, your Kurt. Kurt's probably going to be unavailable

830
00:48:13,907 --> 00:48:18,507
Speaker 16: for a couple of weeks. You'll get scans over the weekend.

831
00:48:20,587 --> 00:48:25,307
Speaker 16: Chanel won't be available, you know, with the way he

832
00:48:25,627 --> 00:48:30,347
Speaker 16: has hia happened, and we're just waiting on things with

833
00:48:30,627 --> 00:48:33,187
Speaker 16: Chance to see where he's at. So I'm not too

834
00:48:33,187 --> 00:48:36,547
Speaker 16: sure where Chance is at, but definitely KP and Chanel

835
00:48:36,627 --> 00:48:38,747
Speaker 16: will be will be unavailable.

836
00:48:39,067 --> 00:48:43,547
Speaker 3: Stacy Jones. He's twenty years old. He's already created a

837
00:48:43,667 --> 00:48:46,307
Speaker 3: huge explosion in the game over the time he's played

838
00:48:46,387 --> 00:48:49,587
Speaker 3: Licqua of the wrecka Halla Seema. What's going to stop

839
00:48:49,667 --> 00:48:52,547
Speaker 3: this bloke? He's he's Can you call him a freak?

840
00:48:52,667 --> 00:48:53,347
Speaker 3: Is that okay?

841
00:48:54,227 --> 00:48:54,587
Speaker 12: Yeah?

842
00:48:54,827 --> 00:48:59,347
Speaker 16: Yeah, Look I thought that was his best performance and

843
00:48:59,507 --> 00:49:01,507
Speaker 16: it wasn't what he did with the ball, it's what

844
00:49:01,627 --> 00:49:04,507
Speaker 16: he did, you know. Defensively he was everywhere he was,

845
00:49:04,547 --> 00:49:07,387
Speaker 16: you know, like they got an accept and he chased

846
00:49:07,427 --> 00:49:12,827
Speaker 16: down Samisasangi and he made a real try saying cover tackle.

847
00:49:14,707 --> 00:49:15,507
Speaker 12: The second half.

848
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Speaker 16: So look, his defense was was something that we're really

849
00:49:19,667 --> 00:49:22,947
Speaker 16: happy with. And you know, again when he when he

850
00:49:22,987 --> 00:49:24,987
Speaker 16: touches the footy, anything's possible.

851
00:49:25,067 --> 00:49:26,947
Speaker 12: So yeah, look he was.

852
00:49:26,987 --> 00:49:31,267
Speaker 3: He was outstanding to a peaky he little fellas doing well.

853
00:49:31,347 --> 00:49:32,587
Speaker 3: Let him make you smile, wouldn't it.

854
00:49:33,747 --> 00:49:36,907
Speaker 16: Look he came on and was able to get some

855
00:49:36,987 --> 00:49:39,387
Speaker 16: momentum for us, you know, so he's a different player

856
00:49:39,427 --> 00:49:43,707
Speaker 16: to chants, but I thought the camera forwards didn't handle

857
00:49:43,987 --> 00:49:46,147
Speaker 16: tain that well. Where he poked his nose and got

858
00:49:46,187 --> 00:49:48,907
Speaker 16: some real good ruck speed for us, and and he

859
00:49:48,987 --> 00:49:53,147
Speaker 16: tidied up some some you know, scrambling kicks that that

860
00:49:53,187 --> 00:49:54,427
Speaker 16: he got his body in front of.

861
00:49:54,547 --> 00:49:56,427
Speaker 12: So he came up some big plays for us.

862
00:49:56,467 --> 00:49:59,387
Speaker 3: Tak when you look, and I mentioned the amount of

863
00:49:59,507 --> 00:50:02,707
Speaker 3: changes that happened on the fly during the game, that

864
00:50:02,867 --> 00:50:06,787
Speaker 3: says a lot for the culture of the and what

865
00:50:06,827 --> 00:50:10,987
Speaker 3: you've been doing in practice that you can almost seamlessly

866
00:50:11,267 --> 00:50:14,507
Speaker 3: put players where you want and they're all still playing

867
00:50:14,547 --> 00:50:15,787
Speaker 3: to the beat of the same drum.

868
00:50:16,627 --> 00:50:18,907
Speaker 16: Yeah, we're very lucky we got you know, we've got

869
00:50:18,907 --> 00:50:23,147
Speaker 16: some good depth in the squad, and you know last

870
00:50:23,227 --> 00:50:25,387
Speaker 16: year we used them in tality the next man up.

871
00:50:25,467 --> 00:50:27,667
Speaker 12: We're going to need that again this week and when

872
00:50:27,707 --> 00:50:28,787
Speaker 12: we traveled to Newcastle.

873
00:50:28,867 --> 00:50:32,667
Speaker 16: So there's a bit of experience in this team now,

874
00:50:33,027 --> 00:50:34,587
Speaker 16: guys that are sort of playing up to sort of

875
00:50:34,667 --> 00:50:38,107
Speaker 16: that fifty sixty seventy game mark now. And I've got

876
00:50:38,107 --> 00:50:42,227
Speaker 16: a lot of those those guys, so they certainly become

877
00:50:42,347 --> 00:50:45,067
Speaker 16: very very beneficial to your overall squad.

878
00:50:45,347 --> 00:50:50,307
Speaker 3: Spoke with Aaron Clark earlier in the week and Aaron

879
00:50:50,467 --> 00:50:53,507
Speaker 3: was talking about the fitness of the team and how

880
00:50:53,587 --> 00:50:57,187
Speaker 3: good it is. He was also talking about the requirement

881
00:50:57,267 --> 00:51:00,227
Speaker 3: to celebrate the win and then just stick it in

882
00:51:00,267 --> 00:51:03,787
Speaker 3: the past and focus fully forward. Is that the energy

883
00:51:03,827 --> 00:51:05,067
Speaker 3: you're looking at, Stacy.

884
00:51:05,267 --> 00:51:08,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, we done a really good job around you know,

885
00:51:08,187 --> 00:51:11,707
Speaker 16: the culture and the leadership within the group and not

886
00:51:12,067 --> 00:51:14,307
Speaker 16: getting too carried away with anything and it's you know,

887
00:51:14,347 --> 00:51:16,707
Speaker 16: focus on what the next job is, you know.

888
00:51:16,947 --> 00:51:20,347
Speaker 12: So the boys are fit, bailing couples.

889
00:51:20,387 --> 00:51:23,147
Speaker 16: Our head of performance has done done a wonderful job

890
00:51:23,187 --> 00:51:25,707
Speaker 16: with getting the boys in shape and what's been a

891
00:51:25,787 --> 00:51:28,747
Speaker 16: fairly disruptive preseason with players coming back late into the

892
00:51:28,787 --> 00:51:29,747
Speaker 16: piece and then we had the.

893
00:51:29,707 --> 00:51:30,547
Speaker 12: All Stars game.

894
00:51:30,667 --> 00:51:34,827
Speaker 16: So over all the squads and really good shape fitness wise,

895
00:51:36,147 --> 00:51:38,107
Speaker 16: you know, and it's showing on the footy field.

896
00:51:38,067 --> 00:51:40,587
Speaker 3: Not running with heavy legs. It's what we discussed as well.

897
00:51:40,907 --> 00:51:42,787
Speaker 3: Who would have thought at the start of the season

898
00:51:43,147 --> 00:51:46,627
Speaker 3: was too and no broncos Ozero and two that's another story.

899
00:51:46,787 --> 00:51:49,907
Speaker 3: What about Roger What a celebration for RT. It's a

900
00:51:49,947 --> 00:51:52,227
Speaker 3: shame he couldn't dot down, but he pretty much said

901
00:51:52,427 --> 00:51:54,667
Speaker 3: everything else. There's a lot of joy in the crowd

902
00:51:54,987 --> 00:51:57,907
Speaker 3: for what RTS has provided one hundred and fifty games

903
00:51:57,907 --> 00:51:58,347
Speaker 3: of the club.

904
00:51:58,907 --> 00:52:01,587
Speaker 16: Yeah, what a player, What a person to have for

905
00:52:01,747 --> 00:52:03,707
Speaker 16: our squad. And he showed he can kick goals too.

906
00:52:03,867 --> 00:52:09,187
Speaker 16: So now look, we saw a highlights package of them

907
00:52:09,387 --> 00:52:11,867
Speaker 16: when our captains run before we went out, and I

908
00:52:12,227 --> 00:52:14,427
Speaker 16: just went, well, I don't think there's another player in

909
00:52:14,507 --> 00:52:17,827
Speaker 16: our in our game that could you know, put together

910
00:52:18,467 --> 00:52:21,867
Speaker 16: a package reel of highlights that you need to show.

911
00:52:22,067 --> 00:52:26,827
Speaker 16: And wow, what a player, what a player he he is,

912
00:52:26,907 --> 00:52:30,147
Speaker 16: And know as younger days what he could do. And

913
00:52:30,707 --> 00:52:33,907
Speaker 16: you know, we're very lucky to have have someone like Roger.

914
00:52:33,667 --> 00:52:34,987
Speaker 12: And this in this team.

915
00:52:35,027 --> 00:52:36,787
Speaker 3: Anything else that you take out of that game that

916
00:52:36,867 --> 00:52:38,347
Speaker 3: might be worth isolating.

917
00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:41,067
Speaker 12: Ah yeah, look, I just not really. I think we've

918
00:52:41,107 --> 00:52:43,067
Speaker 12: covered it. You know, we're just doing the little things

919
00:52:43,107 --> 00:52:46,427
Speaker 12: really well. And the competition is so you just don't know.

920
00:52:46,907 --> 00:52:49,347
Speaker 16: You know, you've got to turn up with the right mindset,

921
00:52:49,347 --> 00:52:51,187
Speaker 16: you've got to turn up with the right attitude, and

922
00:52:51,787 --> 00:52:53,867
Speaker 16: you know we've we've done that the last couple of

923
00:52:53,867 --> 00:52:55,467
Speaker 16: weeks and we've got to You've got to keep doing

924
00:52:55,467 --> 00:52:58,387
Speaker 16: it otherwise, you know, if you don't, then then you

925
00:52:58,427 --> 00:53:01,387
Speaker 16: get kicked in the backside, and you know you only

926
00:53:01,387 --> 00:53:01,747
Speaker 16: got to be.

927
00:53:01,707 --> 00:53:03,307
Speaker 12: Off your game a little bit for that to happen.

928
00:53:03,787 --> 00:53:07,387
Speaker 3: And finally, Stacy Jones always thanks very much for your time.

929
00:53:07,467 --> 00:53:11,307
Speaker 3: You got Metcalfe and Barnett sitting there going how are

930
00:53:11,347 --> 00:53:12,787
Speaker 3: we going to get back into this team?

931
00:53:13,987 --> 00:53:14,227
Speaker 4: Yeah?

932
00:53:14,347 --> 00:53:16,547
Speaker 12: I want to ury luxury for us to have. So

933
00:53:16,907 --> 00:53:19,347
Speaker 12: I appreciate appreciate the check, Darcy.

934
00:53:19,507 --> 00:53:22,827
Speaker 3: And I appreciate the fact you answer the phone. Stacy Jones,

935
00:53:23,347 --> 00:53:26,387
Speaker 3: a legend of the game, assistant coach of the Warriors,

936
00:53:26,387 --> 00:53:30,267
Speaker 3: we coach of the Keywiks too, is a very busy

937
00:53:30,347 --> 00:53:33,347
Speaker 3: man looking back at what was a phenomenal win, part

938
00:53:33,467 --> 00:53:38,347
Speaker 3: of an outrageously good start for the Warriors. They beat

939
00:53:38,427 --> 00:53:40,947
Speaker 3: up on and they did. They beat up on the

940
00:53:41,067 --> 00:53:45,027
Speaker 3: Raiders last night. It was tired as they come second half.

941
00:53:45,587 --> 00:53:49,067
Speaker 3: Excuse the pump, but the floodgates opened and the Warriors

942
00:53:49,267 --> 00:53:52,307
Speaker 3: simply ran away with it. A lot of pressure on

943
00:53:52,387 --> 00:53:57,747
Speaker 3: what looked like a tired Raiders team that they accelerated through.

944
00:53:57,827 --> 00:54:02,267
Speaker 3: Wasn't it a lovely term back from Stacy Jones. They

945
00:54:02,347 --> 00:54:04,027
Speaker 3: attack with their defense.

946
00:54:04,747 --> 00:54:05,387
Speaker 17: That was good.

947
00:54:06,147 --> 00:54:09,867
Speaker 3: Tea nine two ZBZ beach sound text charge does apply,

948
00:54:10,347 --> 00:54:12,267
Speaker 3: but give us a call. Oh eight one hundred and

949
00:54:12,307 --> 00:54:16,427
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty spoke there in Clark at the end

950
00:54:16,467 --> 00:54:19,667
Speaker 3: of this week. Talk to him about the ability to

951
00:54:20,627 --> 00:54:23,787
Speaker 3: package that success up that they had in the first game,

952
00:54:23,987 --> 00:54:27,707
Speaker 3: put it to one side and focus forward. Too much

953
00:54:27,747 --> 00:54:30,107
Speaker 3: celebration going on the team is not a good thing

954
00:54:30,147 --> 00:54:31,467
Speaker 3: from a fan base.

955
00:54:31,587 --> 00:54:31,747
Speaker 12: Here.

956
00:54:31,827 --> 00:54:35,867
Speaker 3: We can celebrate because it has been a wild old start,

957
00:54:36,507 --> 00:54:41,507
Speaker 3: but can you be calm move into next week's game

958
00:54:43,307 --> 00:54:46,947
Speaker 3: and start again from scratch. Do you have faith in

959
00:54:47,107 --> 00:54:50,827
Speaker 3: this side that they can regear and not get carried

960
00:54:50,867 --> 00:54:54,627
Speaker 3: away from their success? Rarely? What did you see in

961
00:54:54,707 --> 00:54:57,907
Speaker 3: that game that made you shout and smile? What was

962
00:54:57,987 --> 00:55:01,067
Speaker 3: the exception of the score, because that was huge and

963
00:55:01,107 --> 00:55:02,787
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to your calls coming up next on

964
00:55:02,827 --> 00:55:05,667
Speaker 3: OH eight one hundred and eighty ten eight. You can text.

965
00:55:05,667 --> 00:55:09,147
Speaker 3: Remember that phone call was a free phone number. If

966
00:55:09,147 --> 00:55:10,627
Speaker 3: you want to text, it's going to cost your standard

967
00:55:10,627 --> 00:55:14,107
Speaker 3: text charge nine two ninety two z B z B.

968
00:55:14,787 --> 00:55:15,987
Speaker 3: Get them coming through first.

969
00:55:16,067 --> 00:55:16,187
Speaker 12: Up.

970
00:55:16,187 --> 00:55:19,227
Speaker 3: We've got Lyle joining us live. You're still running bro.

971
00:55:20,987 --> 00:55:26,787
Speaker 18: Actually myself Sydney's support rarely, but there's plenty of my relatives. Yeah,

972
00:55:26,987 --> 00:55:31,267
Speaker 18: It was a great try moment with Johnson. But most

973
00:55:31,307 --> 00:55:34,307
Speaker 18: of my relatives are Warriors supporters, so I keep an

974
00:55:34,347 --> 00:55:36,787
Speaker 18: eye on them. And you're only as good as your

975
00:55:36,827 --> 00:55:39,747
Speaker 18: last game were their last. You have been very impressive.

976
00:55:40,427 --> 00:55:42,787
Speaker 18: But the thing that impressed me most last night it

977
00:55:43,027 --> 00:55:45,387
Speaker 18: guys touched on when you're talking the state he is

978
00:55:46,307 --> 00:55:48,987
Speaker 18: the reserves. All the guys come off the bench, and

979
00:55:49,027 --> 00:55:52,867
Speaker 18: they managed to mold them seamlessly. Now, if you're ever

980
00:55:52,907 --> 00:55:55,467
Speaker 18: going to win this competition, you have to have great

981
00:55:55,547 --> 00:55:58,547
Speaker 18: depth in your squad. They are proving to have that,

982
00:55:58,947 --> 00:56:01,227
Speaker 18: and I think a few of the guys that have

983
00:56:01,307 --> 00:56:04,947
Speaker 18: reached sixty or seventy games have become mentally a lot

984
00:56:05,187 --> 00:56:11,507
Speaker 18: tougher as well, and well looking from the outside and Darcy,

985
00:56:11,667 --> 00:56:14,267
Speaker 18: I think there are a side that a flame for

986
00:56:14,347 --> 00:56:17,667
Speaker 18: each other and b have self believed. You know, you

987
00:56:17,667 --> 00:56:19,267
Speaker 18: can say, yeah, yeah, we can do it, we can

988
00:56:19,307 --> 00:56:22,987
Speaker 18: do it. Unless the individual's doing it to really believe

989
00:56:23,067 --> 00:56:27,627
Speaker 18: they can, they ain't going to happen. And it appears

990
00:56:27,667 --> 00:56:30,987
Speaker 18: to say is that's the case. When Barnett and Metcalf

991
00:56:31,027 --> 00:56:34,587
Speaker 18: are right, I'd be bringing them off the bench and

992
00:56:34,627 --> 00:56:36,827
Speaker 18: to getting them right up the scratch. Look I've always

993
00:56:36,867 --> 00:56:39,507
Speaker 18: said I think Channel Boyd's a better option, but that's

994
00:56:39,547 --> 00:56:40,347
Speaker 18: only my opinion.

995
00:56:40,467 --> 00:56:43,067
Speaker 3: Well, I'm a fan of I mean too, I'm a

996
00:56:43,107 --> 00:56:45,667
Speaker 3: fan of him, but like he stays at seven, and

997
00:56:45,747 --> 00:56:48,547
Speaker 3: of course we just slide Metcalf straight into six s in.

998
00:56:48,707 --> 00:56:53,387
Speaker 18: Me a problem, Yeah, I think so. Unfortunately, Taveta Harrison

999
00:56:53,427 --> 00:56:58,147
Speaker 18: will probably miss out, but they still needs Yeah.

1000
00:56:57,987 --> 00:57:01,027
Speaker 3: Great utility Planet can always slide enough necessary. What we

1001
00:57:01,067 --> 00:57:04,827
Speaker 3: saw last night, we had injuries. Suddenly we had a

1002
00:57:04,827 --> 00:57:07,107
Speaker 3: whole on New Blakes on the field and it looked

1003
00:57:07,147 --> 00:57:08,067
Speaker 3: like they trained there.

1004
00:57:09,667 --> 00:57:12,907
Speaker 18: I actually thought that a leck of the wrecker who's

1005
00:57:12,907 --> 00:57:15,427
Speaker 18: saying he was starting. It'll be interesting to see what

1006
00:57:15,547 --> 00:57:18,147
Speaker 18: sort of impact he has. You know, coming off the

1007
00:57:18,187 --> 00:57:21,627
Speaker 18: bench is one thing, but he certainly he surprised me.

1008
00:57:22,067 --> 00:57:23,947
Speaker 18: I'm going to be very hard to keep him out

1009
00:57:23,947 --> 00:57:25,787
Speaker 18: of the starting thirteen when everyone is.

1010
00:57:27,347 --> 00:57:30,227
Speaker 3: Well. Thanks very much for your opinions on that one, Lyle,

1011
00:57:30,387 --> 00:57:32,467
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for calling us. If you'd liked to

1012
00:57:32,507 --> 00:57:35,347
Speaker 3: be involved, you can one hundred eighty ten eighty three

1013
00:57:35,387 --> 00:57:37,227
Speaker 3: for number nationwide.

1014
00:57:37,627 --> 00:57:38,027
Speaker 2: Roll on.

1015
00:57:38,867 --> 00:57:43,787
Speaker 3: Can you just suppress your joy? It's only and I

1016
00:57:43,947 --> 00:57:46,627
Speaker 3: keep saying it, and I won't stop not how you start,

1017
00:57:47,067 --> 00:57:51,787
Speaker 3: how you finished? Just ask the Broncos, right, well you

1018
00:57:51,867 --> 00:57:55,707
Speaker 3: maintain that excitement? Are you bouncing off the walls because

1019
00:57:55,707 --> 00:57:58,587
Speaker 3: you're allowed to? The players can't grieve that you can, right.

1020
00:58:00,387 --> 00:58:03,867
Speaker 14: We can. I disagree with the last guy on the

1021
00:58:04,267 --> 00:58:07,507
Speaker 14: last comment. Don't bring Lequa bottom stack Adam. Bring him

1022
00:58:07,547 --> 00:58:10,747
Speaker 14: up the bench. You know, he's such a great impact player.

1023
00:58:12,027 --> 00:58:15,467
Speaker 14: I think that the Warriors, now, as the previous caller said,

1024
00:58:16,387 --> 00:58:20,027
Speaker 14: have a certain amount of depth. They could have a

1025
00:58:20,027 --> 00:58:25,467
Speaker 14: little bit more. But Sam Sam Healy came off the

1026
00:58:25,467 --> 00:58:28,547
Speaker 14: bench and it looked like it was Wade Egan playing

1027
00:58:29,427 --> 00:58:33,907
Speaker 14: very similar players. He slipped straight in there like he

1028
00:58:34,187 --> 00:58:40,867
Speaker 14: had been playing there for some time. I thought that

1029
00:58:41,747 --> 00:58:45,547
Speaker 14: Canra had the advantage, probably in the first twenty minutes

1030
00:58:45,587 --> 00:58:53,067
Speaker 14: when both Waulsborough and Joe Tartani were on, But as

1031
00:58:53,107 --> 00:58:55,747
Speaker 14: soon as they split that combination up, things started to

1032
00:58:55,787 --> 00:58:58,987
Speaker 14: go a little bit wrong for them and we started

1033
00:58:58,987 --> 00:59:04,227
Speaker 14: to get on top towards the second end of the

1034
00:59:04,267 --> 00:59:08,347
Speaker 14: first half. When we came back on the field in

1035
00:59:08,387 --> 00:59:12,427
Speaker 14: the second half, it was a little bit like the

1036
00:59:12,707 --> 00:59:17,027
Speaker 14: Force and the Hurricanes game. It was like two different

1037
00:59:17,027 --> 00:59:21,107
Speaker 14: games that happened, and like the Warriors seemed to dominate

1038
00:59:21,227 --> 00:59:26,827
Speaker 14: just about everywhere on the field. I thought that at

1039
00:59:26,827 --> 00:59:29,147
Speaker 14: the end of the second half, about six minutes out

1040
00:59:29,227 --> 00:59:33,307
Speaker 14: when I think it was Tanner Boyd or was it

1041
00:59:35,587 --> 00:59:41,467
Speaker 14: anyway the mister call where I thought it should have

1042
00:59:41,507 --> 00:59:45,747
Speaker 14: been either a penalty penalty try where a player was

1043
00:59:45,787 --> 00:59:49,587
Speaker 14: taken out and one was tackled without the ball.

1044
00:59:50,427 --> 00:59:51,667
Speaker 7: I don't know whether you remember that.

1045
00:59:51,867 --> 00:59:55,187
Speaker 3: That's refereeing in the NRL, but you've got to get one, two,

1046
00:59:55,307 --> 00:59:57,867
Speaker 3: three of those decisions and you just can't rest on

1047
00:59:57,987 --> 00:59:59,187
Speaker 3: those because.

1048
01:00:00,547 --> 01:00:03,587
Speaker 14: Happened, right, Yeah, But I mean in the in the

1049
01:00:03,627 --> 01:00:07,667
Speaker 14: second half, it's like we like we did last week

1050
01:00:07,787 --> 01:00:10,187
Speaker 14: or not web and Andrew Webster did. He seemed to

1051
01:00:10,227 --> 01:00:14,587
Speaker 14: be able to use as an interchange vents to the

1052
01:00:14,627 --> 01:00:18,627
Speaker 14: best where I didn't think Cambri used their interchangevents to

1053
01:00:18,707 --> 01:00:20,267
Speaker 14: the best of the ability that he had.

1054
01:00:21,867 --> 01:00:22,027
Speaker 12: Well.

1055
01:00:22,467 --> 01:00:25,027
Speaker 3: The thing with the interchange bench is it actually worked

1056
01:00:25,067 --> 01:00:28,307
Speaker 3: as an interchange I'd like to use the term lego men.

1057
01:00:28,947 --> 01:00:31,107
Speaker 3: You can separate them and build another lega man out

1058
01:00:31,107 --> 01:00:33,107
Speaker 3: of the pieces you've gotten. It's the same lego man,

1059
01:00:33,347 --> 01:00:36,427
Speaker 3: and everyone can just fall into the position they've trained

1060
01:00:36,427 --> 01:00:40,547
Speaker 3: into or another position and it's seamless, like that's three

1061
01:00:40,627 --> 01:00:43,347
Speaker 3: players out, I mean one of the tour being granted.

1062
01:00:43,387 --> 01:00:45,627
Speaker 3: But there was no hick up, there was no pause,

1063
01:00:45,667 --> 01:00:47,387
Speaker 3: there was nothing to stop. They just carried on.

1064
01:00:48,867 --> 01:00:52,427
Speaker 14: Yeah, No, I think we don't want to get too

1065
01:00:52,427 --> 01:00:55,947
Speaker 14: excited just just now, because a spring a swallow doesn't

1066
01:00:55,947 --> 01:01:00,547
Speaker 14: make a spring, and I just think we need to

1067
01:01:00,627 --> 01:01:03,147
Speaker 14: keep a lid on it, and the players especially need

1068
01:01:03,227 --> 01:01:06,027
Speaker 14: to keep a lid on it and just continue to do.

1069
01:01:06,107 --> 01:01:09,067
Speaker 3: What are you doing, brilliant, Greg? Thanks very much. Yes,

1070
01:01:09,147 --> 01:01:13,787
Speaker 3: there's certainly not one. Swallow does not maketh the summer,

1071
01:01:14,067 --> 01:01:16,427
Speaker 3: and it hasn't. But it's still two and oh in

1072
01:01:16,467 --> 01:01:21,507
Speaker 3: a good start. Remember Warriors of well, not so long ago,

1073
01:01:22,227 --> 01:01:25,827
Speaker 3: they're behind the eight ball from third, fourth round. Not

1074
01:01:26,067 --> 01:01:31,147
Speaker 3: the case this time. Not getting too excited and carried away.

1075
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:34,067
Speaker 3: But I'm the plus so I can. And yeah, I'm

1076
01:01:34,067 --> 01:01:37,587
Speaker 3: sorry to my neighbors last night all the noise coming

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Speaker 3: out of my living room. Twenty seven minutes after one

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Speaker 3: more of your thoughts on the Warriors are still to come.

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Speaker 3: There'd be one one on Weekend Sport. Taking your calls around.

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01:03:19,067 --> 01:03:21,667
Speaker 3: The Warriors are eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Your

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01:03:21,747 --> 01:03:24,947
Speaker 3: text as well, Allen says, I'm smiling so much my

1107
01:03:25,107 --> 01:03:30,787
Speaker 3: jaw hurts. I might need surgery. Awesome, lucky you. I'm

1108
01:03:30,787 --> 01:03:33,467
Speaker 3: getting it soon too, but on my knee, not my jaw. Phil, Hi,

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01:03:33,587 --> 01:03:35,187
Speaker 3: how are you? What have you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 19: Okay, Darcy, not bad? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm smiling, mate, so much to be happy about so much?

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Speaker 19: Oh excellent. I wouldn't worry too much about the neighbors, mate, Well.

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01:03:47,027 --> 01:03:49,787
Speaker 3: Plainly I don't. But I don't think they mind me either,

1115
01:03:49,827 --> 01:03:52,787
Speaker 3: because I never see them moving there.

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01:03:52,707 --> 01:03:56,307
Speaker 19: Enough far enough. I can always get sound proof me.

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Speaker 12: Mate.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to make of that game, Phil, what's going on?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 19: I was just saying to ay, I was really impressed.

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01:04:03,747 --> 01:04:06,067
Speaker 19: The thing that impressed me the most was the intensity

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Speaker 19: of the defense. They really went at it last night

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Speaker 19: with you know that defense where they drove them back

1124
01:04:11,747 --> 01:04:13,867
Speaker 19: a number of times in the tackles, and I thought,

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Speaker 19: this is this is really good. Not not only the attack,

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Speaker 19: but I really noticed that defense and the intensity on that,

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Speaker 19: and there were so many everyone played well, you know that,

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Speaker 19: Like Boyd was great with his kicking game, Jackson Ford

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Speaker 19: was fantastic. He doesn't often have a bad game and

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Speaker 19: just hitting it up hard. And the forwards, the captain,

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Speaker 19: the fellow I forget his name. I can't forget his name,

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Speaker 19: but he's just burst on the scene.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hello, scene's name Phil.

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Speaker 19: I think I'll just have to remember that Leaku of

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Speaker 19: the recon and then I'll remember it. But was Naki

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Speaker 19: as well, you know when he jumped up got that

1137
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Speaker 19: ball and came.

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Speaker 3: Down and a tennis player and a woman.

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Speaker 19: I'm not too I'm not too good with the names.

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Speaker 19: But he does a lot of good work too. Like

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Speaker 19: I know, he's been criticized and I've been a one

1142
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Speaker 19: as well about coming off as wings sometimes. But I

1143
01:05:15,187 --> 01:05:18,827
Speaker 19: was talking to Piney the other week and I was

1144
01:05:18,987 --> 01:05:21,387
Speaker 19: thinking that maybe it's not so much as fault, because

1145
01:05:21,387 --> 01:05:23,867
Speaker 19: it's more maybe the inside man not covering him and

1146
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Speaker 19: he has to come off. But he does a lot

1147
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Speaker 19: of good hitting up yards as well, you know, and

1148
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Speaker 19: tackling as well. That don't I think has sort of underrated.

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Speaker 3: Well, they all are out there, they've got to rely

1150
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Speaker 3: on each other in and out and whatever else, and

1151
01:05:37,507 --> 01:05:39,747
Speaker 3: sometimes you make a bad call. So yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: was really pleased for him to come back and have

1153
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Speaker 3: a good game. I'm with you on that, and Bill

1154
01:05:46,747 --> 01:05:50,707
Speaker 3: on your comment around the defense. Really like what Stacy

1155
01:05:50,787 --> 01:05:53,227
Speaker 3: Jones c before, I probably won't let this one go

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Speaker 3: for a while. They turned their defense into attack, that's

1157
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Speaker 3: what they do. And the fact that they've shot up

1158
01:06:01,587 --> 01:06:05,027
Speaker 3: some holes that were up the middle that we saw

1159
01:06:05,347 --> 01:06:09,267
Speaker 3: last week fills me with joy that they've gone through that.

1160
01:06:09,307 --> 01:06:11,827
Speaker 3: And then another thing around this And like your calls

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01:06:11,947 --> 01:06:14,027
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, if you're on to

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01:06:14,067 --> 01:06:16,587
Speaker 3: reflect in general on that game, I've got some text

1163
01:06:16,667 --> 01:06:20,707
Speaker 3: coming for you soon. It was touched on before. I

1164
01:06:20,747 --> 01:06:23,787
Speaker 3: think a lot of these younger players, and this was

1165
01:06:23,907 --> 01:06:26,227
Speaker 3: mentioned by I know it's a different sport, but Ryan

1166
01:06:26,347 --> 01:06:28,547
Speaker 3: Fox and Golf, we talked to him a few weeks

1167
01:06:28,587 --> 01:06:30,107
Speaker 3: ago and he said, look to ask you. The things

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01:06:30,107 --> 01:06:34,347
Speaker 3: that have changed now is I know that my best

1169
01:06:34,427 --> 01:06:36,907
Speaker 3: is good enough to compete at that high level. He

1170
01:06:36,987 --> 01:06:39,947
Speaker 3: knows that now some of these younger players and some

1171
01:06:39,987 --> 01:06:42,627
Speaker 3: of the guys are now coming up thirty sixty seventy games,

1172
01:06:42,667 --> 01:06:47,027
Speaker 3: and that that key area area of their existence as

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01:06:47,067 --> 01:06:50,587
Speaker 3: a professional player, they know that their best is good

1174
01:06:50,667 --> 01:06:54,307
Speaker 3: enough to compete and win and dominate, and that in

1175
01:06:54,427 --> 01:06:58,427
Speaker 3: any walk of life, that internal faith and trust in

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01:06:58,467 --> 01:07:02,027
Speaker 3: yourself that you know at your best you're good enough.

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Speaker 3: In fact, you're more than good enough. You can dominate,

1178
01:07:05,107 --> 01:07:08,467
Speaker 3: you can win, you can have success. You can't train

1179
01:07:08,947 --> 01:07:12,667
Speaker 3: that internal voice, but once you've got it in control

1180
01:07:12,867 --> 01:07:17,347
Speaker 3: and in hand, it's an enormously powerful voice and you

1181
01:07:17,467 --> 01:07:20,107
Speaker 3: need to run with that. Twenty five away from two,

1182
01:07:20,187 --> 01:07:22,267
Speaker 3: this is week in Sport on you talk to THEREBM

1183
01:07:22,347 --> 01:07:24,507
Speaker 3: Darcy Water gave hello, poor how are you?

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01:07:25,987 --> 01:07:28,907
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm like you, Darcy. I'm very very happy after

1185
01:07:30,267 --> 01:07:35,947
Speaker 15: demolishing of the Roaders. Yeah, but let's put things, let's

1186
01:07:36,107 --> 01:07:36,827
Speaker 15: come down to earth.

1187
01:07:36,867 --> 01:07:37,027
Speaker 17: Now.

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01:07:37,027 --> 01:07:39,387
Speaker 15: We've got Newcastle at home next week. But they've got

1189
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Speaker 15: a new Spineddylan Brown, Fletcher Sharp. He's an amazing player,

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Speaker 15: so it's going to be a tough game, mate.

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01:07:45,827 --> 01:07:48,347
Speaker 3: And away from home too, away.

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Speaker 15: From home, yep. Yeah, But what's really pleasing to us is,

1193
01:07:52,947 --> 01:07:55,547
Speaker 15: you know, the Raiders and the Russes. People were predicting

1194
01:07:55,587 --> 01:07:58,027
Speaker 15: them its top four teams and we put forty points

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01:07:58,027 --> 01:08:00,787
Speaker 15: on them and restricted them to not many. So that

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01:08:00,947 --> 01:08:03,867
Speaker 15: shows how defense endyo attach is is on point at

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01:08:03,867 --> 01:08:08,027
Speaker 15: the moment, mate, And besides all balanced and everyone's they

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01:08:08,027 --> 01:08:10,507
Speaker 15: see this scene fit us so very pleasing.

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Speaker 13: Well it's the point.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of the Raiders in that second half?

1201
01:08:13,147 --> 01:08:15,267
Speaker 3: Do they look like maybe they lost a bit of

1202
01:08:15,387 --> 01:08:17,467
Speaker 3: energy that ran out of steam. Do they look a

1203
01:08:17,627 --> 01:08:20,907
Speaker 3: little tired or I'm just building this narrative myself.

1204
01:08:22,547 --> 01:08:24,867
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think, like you said, once the flood gats opened,

1205
01:08:26,067 --> 01:08:27,707
Speaker 15: the probably did their head dropped, you know, And it

1206
01:08:27,747 --> 01:08:29,347
Speaker 15: was it was quite funny out if you saw the

1207
01:08:29,427 --> 01:08:34,507
Speaker 15: vision of Cameron George during the crying eyes, you know,

1208
01:08:34,587 --> 01:08:37,267
Speaker 15: that's that's our CEO of our club. You know, what

1209
01:08:36,787 --> 01:08:40,707
Speaker 15: what a what a what a character. But yeah, I

1210
01:08:40,707 --> 01:08:44,027
Speaker 15: think the heads went down and you know, plus you

1211
01:08:44,067 --> 01:08:46,147
Speaker 15: know at home, like you know, like you said before,

1212
01:08:46,187 --> 01:08:48,987
Speaker 15: but it's it's you know, they call it a roller

1213
01:08:49,027 --> 01:08:51,667
Speaker 15: coaster for a reason. And and the true test will

1214
01:08:51,667 --> 01:08:55,707
Speaker 15: be next week in Newcastle. Billan Brown's playing well and

1215
01:08:56,067 --> 01:08:59,387
Speaker 15: the nights. So if we if we play well and

1216
01:08:59,467 --> 01:09:02,427
Speaker 15: when fantastic. If we play well and lose, you know,

1217
01:09:02,547 --> 01:09:05,467
Speaker 15: that's not too bad but very pleasing at the moment.

1218
01:09:05,507 --> 01:09:07,867
Speaker 15: Made and just quickly on Alex Johnson, the scenes of

1219
01:09:07,907 --> 01:09:11,627
Speaker 15: the people coming onto the field last night was unbelievable.

1220
01:09:12,387 --> 01:09:14,787
Speaker 15: It just it just I felt like I was back

1221
01:09:14,827 --> 01:09:17,547
Speaker 15: in back in the forties and fifties watching it sort

1222
01:09:17,587 --> 01:09:19,787
Speaker 15: of footage, you know, it was it was. It was

1223
01:09:19,827 --> 01:09:21,987
Speaker 15: actually quite emotional when I seen him lifted up on

1224
01:09:22,027 --> 01:09:25,147
Speaker 15: everyone's shoulders and it was this unreal mate.

1225
01:09:25,227 --> 01:09:27,947
Speaker 3: People I don't know, became the top tri scorer in

1226
01:09:28,147 --> 01:09:31,707
Speaker 3: NRL's hair history. And I think the fans need to

1227
01:09:31,747 --> 01:09:35,307
Speaker 3: be engaged in that because it is about us and

1228
01:09:35,307 --> 01:09:39,267
Speaker 3: we need to celebrate and be seen and heard and enjoy. Look,

1229
01:09:39,387 --> 01:09:41,227
Speaker 3: if he had a been crushed in the hordes, it

1230
01:09:41,267 --> 01:09:42,587
Speaker 3: might have been a different story.

1231
01:09:42,627 --> 01:09:46,107
Speaker 15: But yeah, what's funny, Darcy is the first person on

1232
01:09:46,147 --> 01:09:48,387
Speaker 15: the scene to congratulate him was a Roosters fan and

1233
01:09:48,467 --> 01:09:51,507
Speaker 15: a Rooster's jusey. That just goes to show our great

1234
01:09:51,507 --> 01:09:53,307
Speaker 15: game mate, you know, I.

1235
01:09:53,427 --> 01:09:55,707
Speaker 3: Is a fantastic game and last night filled us all

1236
01:09:55,707 --> 01:09:59,387
Speaker 3: with joy. I'm sure Mark joins the program. Now, what

1237
01:09:59,387 --> 01:10:01,707
Speaker 3: can you bring mate?

1238
01:10:01,907 --> 01:10:03,867
Speaker 7: Good afternoon, Boddy, how are you very well?

1239
01:10:04,147 --> 01:10:04,307
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1240
01:10:04,627 --> 01:10:06,267
Speaker 3: What's your story? What's your angle?

1241
01:10:06,907 --> 01:10:09,107
Speaker 20: I'm just talking to your man on the off scene.

1242
01:10:09,627 --> 01:10:10,987
Speaker 18: I didn't realize that.

1243
01:10:12,947 --> 01:10:16,067
Speaker 20: Drivaca actually played for the Oda Who Leopards, and then

1244
01:10:16,067 --> 01:10:18,467
Speaker 20: I've just found out he went to my old high

1245
01:10:18,507 --> 01:10:20,947
Speaker 20: school as well, which is Oda Who College.

1246
01:10:21,867 --> 01:10:25,467
Speaker 3: Like two of us are sick, Roger, yes, yeah, yeah.

1247
01:10:26,067 --> 01:10:28,867
Speaker 20: So because I started playing rugby league when I first

1248
01:10:28,947 --> 01:10:31,907
Speaker 20: came into high school, and back in those days we

1249
01:10:32,027 --> 01:10:35,467
Speaker 20: had also for the Piner and Stan Smith Wow, but

1250
01:10:35,827 --> 01:10:38,707
Speaker 20: both at both at Oda Who College.

1251
01:10:39,427 --> 01:10:42,227
Speaker 3: And I've been and watched them play a few times

1252
01:10:42,267 --> 01:10:45,667
Speaker 3: back in the day too, was their home ground. I

1253
01:10:45,667 --> 01:10:47,627
Speaker 3: couldn't find agent.

1254
01:10:47,187 --> 01:10:49,027
Speaker 20: Make sure what club they played for.

1255
01:10:49,227 --> 01:10:51,987
Speaker 3: Dark No, I'm talking about Oda Who. They are Leopards

1256
01:10:52,267 --> 01:10:54,587
Speaker 3: because I'm out in west Auckland, so anywhere that's not

1257
01:10:54,627 --> 01:10:57,307
Speaker 3: West talking, I get confused. So well, I'm glad you

1258
01:10:57,387 --> 01:10:59,507
Speaker 3: got a lovely history of that. Mark. Thanks very much

1259
01:10:59,507 --> 01:11:03,387
Speaker 3: for your call. It's twenty one minutes to two coming

1260
01:11:03,467 --> 01:11:06,107
Speaker 3: up shortly on the program. Are we going to talk

1261
01:11:06,147 --> 01:11:10,507
Speaker 3: with Ossie correspondent man with the name of Adam Peacock,

1262
01:11:10,707 --> 01:11:13,627
Speaker 3: cover off what he's been indulging in and what he

1263
01:11:13,787 --> 01:11:18,667
Speaker 3: has seen in Australian sport and will be joined up

1264
01:11:18,707 --> 01:11:22,347
Speaker 3: after two o'clock by Chris Jones from the BBC. He's

1265
01:11:22,387 --> 01:11:26,587
Speaker 3: a Rugby correspondent, writer and journalist. As we look to

1266
01:11:26,627 --> 01:11:32,467
Speaker 3: the end of what's been a stunning, unpredictable and absolutely

1267
01:11:32,667 --> 01:11:36,187
Speaker 3: mad six nations so far, this says New Salt fir B.

1268
01:11:36,827 --> 01:11:41,147
Speaker 3: It is twenty minutes to two.

1269
01:11:41,667 --> 01:11:42,907
Speaker 2: Call it how you see it?

1270
01:11:43,067 --> 01:11:47,147
Speaker 1: Hollow eight hundred eighty eighty Weekend Sport with Dancy Wandergrave

1271
01:11:47,267 --> 01:11:50,987
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder

1272
01:11:51,147 --> 01:11:51,987
Speaker 1: News talks that'd b.

1273
01:11:52,347 --> 01:11:55,707
Speaker 3: Seventeen to two that time of the week. Again across

1274
01:11:55,827 --> 01:11:58,787
Speaker 3: the ditch we go toward the West Island. Our ossie

1275
01:11:58,827 --> 01:12:02,827
Speaker 3: correspondent is a familiar voice here on this Program's name

1276
01:12:02,867 --> 01:12:05,907
Speaker 3: is Adam Peacock. Adam, as always, thanks very much for

1277
01:12:06,027 --> 01:12:08,747
Speaker 3: joining us. We'll start with the NRL from last night,

1278
01:12:08,827 --> 01:12:13,387
Speaker 3: of course, the Warriors on fire, Alex Johnson's climbed a mountain.

1279
01:12:14,507 --> 01:12:17,707
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I was out and about last night for

1280
01:12:17,787 --> 01:12:21,027
Speaker 9: Warriors camera. So I'm not totally across that, but I

1281
01:12:21,067 --> 01:12:25,107
Speaker 9: heard it was. Yeah, I wonder kind of look at

1282
01:12:25,187 --> 01:12:28,307
Speaker 9: and go well, but yeah, later that night or later

1283
01:12:28,387 --> 01:12:32,347
Speaker 9: last night over here Alex Johnston. Yeah, it was a

1284
01:12:32,387 --> 01:12:36,027
Speaker 9: weird situation actually because the Roosters won a high intensity,

1285
01:12:36,067 --> 01:12:39,387
Speaker 9: high pressure game. But Alex Johnson is still the story

1286
01:12:39,467 --> 01:12:42,347
Speaker 9: because he breaks an all time record most tries in

1287
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Speaker 9: regular league history, breaking the great Ken Irvine. And there

1288
01:12:46,107 --> 01:12:48,267
Speaker 9: was a lot of talk this week over whether people

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Speaker 9: jumped the fence and invade the field. That's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 17: Oddly enough, it was.

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01:12:54,267 --> 01:12:57,667
Speaker 9: A bloke in a retro Roosters jersey that first got to.

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Speaker 21: Him and celebrated with him.

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Speaker 19: It was a weird look.

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Speaker 9: Probably doesn't happen in other parts of the world in

1295
01:13:03,027 --> 01:13:07,427
Speaker 9: other sports, but yeah, it was fantastic and everyone celebrated

1296
01:13:07,507 --> 01:13:09,707
Speaker 9: in kind and everyone happy for a really good guy

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Speaker 9: in rugby league and Alex Johnston.

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Speaker 3: I watched in URL three sexy as I habitually do,

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Speaker 3: and there was the discussion there about is it right

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Speaker 3: that they do that. I think it is. This doesn't

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01:13:20,867 --> 01:13:23,907
Speaker 3: happen much, and it may not happen again, right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well when they look I've got a bit hairy

1303
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Speaker 9: there when everyone did the crush on him, but then

1304
01:13:30,387 --> 01:13:33,467
Speaker 9: they eventually got him up on their shoulders. And that

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Speaker 9: image of him by pointing in the air and on

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01:13:36,067 --> 01:13:39,947
Speaker 9: his femart's shoulders with thousands of people around him, He's

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01:13:39,987 --> 01:13:42,227
Speaker 9: just such a great image and one that you can

1308
01:13:42,307 --> 01:13:46,147
Speaker 9: use for a lot of good for the sport. So yeah,

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01:13:46,707 --> 01:13:50,067
Speaker 9: like I understood those who said it really should be

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01:13:50,107 --> 01:13:52,947
Speaker 9: the player's domain, but you know, it was just people

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Speaker 9: celebrating and there was nothing bad that happened really, I mean,

1312
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Speaker 9: the Prime Minister, for goodness sake to the souse fan

1313
01:13:59,067 --> 01:14:00,347
Speaker 9: was on the pitch as well.

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Speaker 11: El, So it was a weird old night.

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Speaker 9: And where else, I like, your country could probably happen

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Speaker 9: in a few other around the world, But given what's

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Speaker 9: happening politically around the world, where else can the leader

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Speaker 9: of the country just stroll onto a park with you know,

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Speaker 9: thousands of other people and celebrate a sporting occasions. It's

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Speaker 9: pretty cool and it speaks about him for what we

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Speaker 9: are as a country. So really enjoyable night there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that the game is for the fans,

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Speaker 3: not the players. They need to be engaged and involved,

1324
01:14:30,427 --> 01:14:33,067
Speaker 3: otherwise they will drift away. Let's carry on with the

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Speaker 3: NRL Broncos. What a horrible start oh and two. But

1326
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Speaker 3: as they say, it's not how you start, it's how

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Speaker 3: you finish.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's how they finished last year. Well, everyone remembers

1329
01:14:44,267 --> 01:14:46,747
Speaker 9: how they finished last year. I should say they weren't

1330
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Speaker 9: quite with it in the first half of last season.

1331
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Speaker 12: And it looks a bit the same everyone now.

1332
01:14:52,987 --> 01:14:56,787
Speaker 9: Like I would have thought that Michael maguire and the

1333
01:14:56,947 --> 01:14:58,947
Speaker 9: players have bought a bit of credit by doing what

1334
01:14:58,987 --> 01:15:02,707
Speaker 9: they did, especially in the final series last year. But yeah,

1335
01:15:02,747 --> 01:15:07,187
Speaker 9: your memory gets wiped pretty quickly in sport. And now

1336
01:15:07,667 --> 01:15:09,227
Speaker 9: people are going to nitpick it.

1337
01:15:09,267 --> 01:15:09,427
Speaker 21: Is it?

1338
01:15:09,507 --> 01:15:09,587
Speaker 1: This?

1339
01:15:09,747 --> 01:15:09,907
Speaker 21: Is it?

1340
01:15:09,987 --> 01:15:10,067
Speaker 10: That?

1341
01:15:10,227 --> 01:15:11,947
Speaker 9: Is he training them too hard again? Is it the

1342
01:15:11,947 --> 01:15:16,187
Speaker 9: paininghas walking away situation? Are the players distracted by other things?

1343
01:15:16,187 --> 01:15:17,987
Speaker 9: That they got big heads because they won the comp

1344
01:15:18,067 --> 01:15:21,467
Speaker 9: last year? All those little things start to add up

1345
01:15:21,467 --> 01:15:23,787
Speaker 9: the problem for the Storm, problem for the Broncos is

1346
01:15:23,787 --> 01:15:25,827
Speaker 9: they've got to go to Melbourne Storm next week, where

1347
01:15:26,347 --> 01:15:30,387
Speaker 9: you don't get anything for nothing down there, so you've

1348
01:15:30,427 --> 01:15:31,867
Speaker 9: got to be at your best or near to it

1349
01:15:31,947 --> 01:15:35,027
Speaker 9: to walk away with something so difficult to start, but

1350
01:15:35,107 --> 01:15:37,947
Speaker 9: they are good enough to flick a switch at the

1351
01:15:37,987 --> 01:15:40,227
Speaker 9: moment though, they've got a couple of questions brewing.

1352
01:15:40,507 --> 01:15:43,347
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a big league story which is basically a

1353
01:15:43,507 --> 01:15:47,227
Speaker 3: union story. Zach Lomax has gone way out west to

1354
01:15:47,587 --> 01:15:53,067
Speaker 3: play but a super rugping hopefully become a wallerby what's

1355
01:15:53,267 --> 01:15:55,707
Speaker 3: that been sitting like over in Australia.

1356
01:15:56,787 --> 01:15:59,307
Speaker 9: Yeah, massive story because he couldn't find a way through

1357
01:15:59,627 --> 01:16:03,587
Speaker 9: leaving Paramatta to stay in rugby league legally because PARAMOUNTA

1358
01:16:03,667 --> 01:16:06,907
Speaker 9: released him to playing that R three sixty competition, but

1359
01:16:06,987 --> 01:16:09,827
Speaker 9: then that fell over, and then his ambitions of playing

1360
01:16:09,867 --> 01:16:12,667
Speaker 9: somewhere fell over. He was speaking of Rugby Australia late

1361
01:16:12,747 --> 01:16:14,987
Speaker 9: last year, but they couldn't come to the party of

1362
01:16:15,227 --> 01:16:18,907
Speaker 9: a financial package that suited him, so he decided to

1363
01:16:18,947 --> 01:16:22,427
Speaker 9: pursue another rugby league option that was blocked by court,

1364
01:16:22,547 --> 01:16:24,307
Speaker 9: so then he had to go back to Rugby Australian's

1365
01:16:24,427 --> 01:16:25,187
Speaker 9: actually what.

1366
01:16:25,267 --> 01:16:26,667
Speaker 10: We're talking about late last year.

1367
01:16:26,707 --> 01:16:27,827
Speaker 21: Can we revisit that?

1368
01:16:27,907 --> 01:16:30,587
Speaker 9: And they were happy enough to accommodate him on their

1369
01:16:30,707 --> 01:16:33,427
Speaker 9: terms and it's probably good for him. He's going to

1370
01:16:33,427 --> 01:16:36,707
Speaker 9: be way out of the spotlight in Perth playing for

1371
01:16:36,747 --> 01:16:37,587
Speaker 9: the Western Force.

1372
01:16:37,667 --> 01:16:38,467
Speaker 12: His first game.

1373
01:16:38,987 --> 01:16:40,987
Speaker 9: Force that got to buy next week, so his first

1374
01:16:40,987 --> 01:16:43,387
Speaker 9: game won't be until the twenty eighth against the Chiefs.

1375
01:16:44,387 --> 01:16:46,627
Speaker 9: Whether or not he starts the game or comes off

1376
01:16:46,667 --> 01:16:49,347
Speaker 9: the bench of the Force remains to be seen. But yeah,

1377
01:16:49,507 --> 01:16:51,387
Speaker 9: I think everyone can move on now and it will

1378
01:16:51,427 --> 01:16:54,627
Speaker 9: be interesting to see if he can kind of cross over.

1379
01:16:56,547 --> 01:16:57,107
Speaker 21: Athletically.

1380
01:16:57,147 --> 01:16:59,907
Speaker 9: He's absolutely good enough. But you guys know over there

1381
01:16:59,947 --> 01:17:02,707
Speaker 9: that rugby league and rugby union it's two totally different sports.

1382
01:17:02,747 --> 01:17:04,947
Speaker 9: They don't quite get it over here as such. They

1383
01:17:05,067 --> 01:17:07,707
Speaker 9: just thinking of rugby league player and playrug the union.

1384
01:17:08,027 --> 01:17:10,547
Speaker 9: It's not the case so technical that like how you

1385
01:17:10,627 --> 01:17:14,347
Speaker 9: position your body in contact and all of that's it's

1386
01:17:14,387 --> 01:17:16,667
Speaker 9: a big, big learning thing that he's about to go through.

1387
01:17:16,707 --> 01:17:21,227
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's it's resolved, thankfully, because it was draft

1388
01:17:21,827 --> 01:17:22,707
Speaker 9: on a bit through the court.

1389
01:17:22,987 --> 01:17:25,227
Speaker 3: No people would point to sunny Bill Williams and go yes,

1390
01:17:25,267 --> 01:17:28,507
Speaker 3: it's possible, then point to Benji Marshall and say no

1391
01:17:28,667 --> 01:17:31,587
Speaker 3: it is. And that's a long, long story. Let's finish

1392
01:17:31,627 --> 01:17:35,067
Speaker 3: things off. Sorry, Animi's finished things off. Matilda's through the

1393
01:17:35,107 --> 01:17:39,227
Speaker 3: Asian Cup semi finals. They beat the North Koreans two

1394
01:17:39,347 --> 01:17:44,147
Speaker 3: one predictably. Sam Ker scores my question though, and North

1395
01:17:44,227 --> 01:17:46,907
Speaker 3: Korea still there or have they gone to hiding with

1396
01:17:47,507 --> 01:17:48,907
Speaker 3: the Iran cars.

1397
01:17:50,107 --> 01:17:53,147
Speaker 9: No, No, North Korea are actually still there because last

1398
01:17:53,187 --> 01:17:55,627
Speaker 9: night was huge because it was actually acted as a

1399
01:17:55,747 --> 01:17:58,267
Speaker 9: World Cup qualifier, So the top four in the Asian

1400
01:17:58,307 --> 01:18:01,427
Speaker 9: Cup qualify for the World Cup next year as well,

1401
01:18:02,547 --> 01:18:04,667
Speaker 9: and then there's two other spots of available, so now

1402
01:18:04,707 --> 01:18:06,067
Speaker 9: North Korea have to get on a plane and go

1403
01:18:06,067 --> 01:18:09,907
Speaker 9: to the old coaster player a one off playoff to get.

1404
01:18:09,747 --> 01:18:10,547
Speaker 21: Into the World Cup.

1405
01:18:10,667 --> 01:18:13,867
Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm sure it'll be received back in cheong

1406
01:18:13,947 --> 01:18:17,227
Speaker 9: Yang as a glorious victory. But they're still in Australia

1407
01:18:17,267 --> 01:18:20,667
Speaker 9: and they dominated well, funnily enough, if they reported it

1408
01:18:20,707 --> 01:18:23,547
Speaker 9: like they dominated the Matilda's, it's not far wrong because

1409
01:18:23,547 --> 01:18:24,707
Speaker 9: they were actually the better team.

1410
01:18:24,787 --> 01:18:26,867
Speaker 21: They just weren't clinical. We were clinical.

1411
01:18:26,907 --> 01:18:29,107
Speaker 9: I think the shot count was something like twenty to

1412
01:18:29,147 --> 01:18:32,307
Speaker 9: four four or something. They batted us in the second half,

1413
01:18:33,227 --> 01:18:35,187
Speaker 9: so I won't say we were lucky to get away

1414
01:18:35,227 --> 01:18:39,267
Speaker 9: with it because football's about scoring. But my goodness, it

1415
01:18:39,347 --> 01:18:42,707
Speaker 9: was an almighty scare in North Korea, or actually very

1416
01:18:42,827 --> 01:18:45,227
Speaker 9: very good value for what they served done.

1417
01:18:45,267 --> 01:18:47,027
Speaker 12: But Matilda's through.

1418
01:18:48,547 --> 01:18:50,307
Speaker 9: Our nation kind of breathes a sigh of the left

1419
01:18:50,307 --> 01:18:53,347
Speaker 9: because they're one of our most popular sporting teams. But man,

1420
01:18:53,387 --> 01:18:54,907
Speaker 9: it was a bit closer than and it needed to

1421
01:18:54,947 --> 01:18:56,147
Speaker 9: be wonderful stuff.

1422
01:18:56,187 --> 01:19:00,067
Speaker 3: Adam Peacark is Australian sport correspondent. We thank you very

1423
01:19:00,147 --> 01:19:03,307
Speaker 3: much for your time, as is every week in and

1424
01:19:03,387 --> 01:19:05,747
Speaker 3: thanks for putting up with me. Pineys back next week.

1425
01:19:05,787 --> 01:19:09,067
Speaker 3: Heam mate. You can relax all good mate, you keep

1426
01:19:09,107 --> 01:19:09,787
Speaker 3: going the way you are.

1427
01:19:09,907 --> 01:19:11,627
Speaker 9: Plony won't need to come back. Have a good one

1428
01:19:11,667 --> 01:19:12,587
Speaker 9: does Wow.

1429
01:19:12,787 --> 01:19:14,907
Speaker 3: I didn't pay him to say that. Eva, ad and Peacock,

1430
01:19:14,987 --> 01:19:18,947
Speaker 3: thanks very much for your time. It is ten minutes

1431
01:19:19,107 --> 01:19:22,147
Speaker 3: to two. Don't forget up. After the new Sport and

1432
01:19:22,227 --> 01:19:26,027
Speaker 3: Weather package that sits at two o'clock, we bring to

1433
01:19:26,107 --> 01:19:29,987
Speaker 3: you six Nations action out of the BBC. Chris Jones

1434
01:19:30,307 --> 01:19:32,747
Speaker 3: joins the program to preview what is going to be

1435
01:19:32,907 --> 01:19:36,667
Speaker 3: a stunning last three games. This is News Talk ZB.

1436
01:19:36,827 --> 01:19:38,467
Speaker 3: It's nine minutes to two.

1437
01:19:39,147 --> 01:19:41,627
Speaker 2: When there's a line call, it's your call.

1438
01:19:42,067 --> 01:19:45,667
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Dancy Waldegrave News Talk ZB.

1439
01:19:47,027 --> 01:19:50,547
Speaker 3: It's six minutes to the latest in the new Sport

1440
01:19:50,547 --> 01:19:52,427
Speaker 3: and Weather up at the top of the hour up.

1441
01:19:52,467 --> 01:19:55,427
Speaker 3: After that, we're going to be talking Six Nations rugby

1442
01:19:55,427 --> 01:19:59,067
Speaker 3: with Chris Jones. I'm going to indulge in some texts Now,

1443
01:19:59,107 --> 01:20:01,827
Speaker 3: and thank you so much for texting through to the studio.

1444
01:20:02,187 --> 01:20:05,307
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two zbzb that is the number, and

1445
01:20:05,387 --> 01:20:09,667
Speaker 3: a standard tech charge will be applied to your bill.

1446
01:20:10,387 --> 01:20:12,987
Speaker 3: I've got a text saying Darcy's sport is for those

1447
01:20:13,147 --> 01:20:16,547
Speaker 3: playing and if not, what is the point. I'm not

1448
01:20:16,747 --> 01:20:19,107
Speaker 3: sure where you're going with that. I think at the

1449
01:20:19,187 --> 01:20:23,827
Speaker 3: higher level, when you're looking at the professional or the

1450
01:20:23,907 --> 01:20:27,107
Speaker 3: high level, it is all about the fans, because without

1451
01:20:27,107 --> 01:20:30,707
Speaker 3: the fans, without the eyeballs, without engagement, without their money,

1452
01:20:31,427 --> 01:20:34,067
Speaker 3: the game dies. At a lower level, yes, it's all

1453
01:20:34,067 --> 01:20:36,467
Speaker 3: about the players playing the game, but at a higher

1454
01:20:36,547 --> 01:20:38,907
Speaker 3: level it's got to be about the fans. What do

1455
01:20:38,947 --> 01:20:42,547
Speaker 3: they say? It's got to be fan centric otherwise it collapses.

1456
01:20:42,907 --> 01:20:45,307
Speaker 3: But thanks very much for that text. I'm not on

1457
01:20:45,307 --> 01:20:50,187
Speaker 3: the wires train until we see them smash Australian teams

1458
01:20:50,307 --> 01:20:53,627
Speaker 3: in Australia. We've been here before. Very pleasing to someone

1459
01:20:54,627 --> 01:20:59,307
Speaker 3: see some professional defense leader. Barnett will what do you

1460
01:20:59,427 --> 01:21:03,307
Speaker 3: mean be missed? He's coming back. It's not like he's

1461
01:21:03,347 --> 01:21:06,667
Speaker 3: gone or anything. Thanks very much for that text. Though

1462
01:21:07,067 --> 01:21:11,307
Speaker 3: someone else is complaining it's Rachel about the pale, stale

1463
01:21:11,547 --> 01:21:15,307
Speaker 3: boomers calling in and butchering people's names. It's okay, it

1464
01:21:15,667 --> 01:21:18,107
Speaker 3: all happens. I knew what he was talking about, or

1465
01:21:18,147 --> 01:21:20,347
Speaker 3: both of them. Were all three of them we're talking

1466
01:21:20,387 --> 01:21:24,587
Speaker 3: about Eventually rugby league great star sy are the ones

1467
01:21:24,627 --> 01:21:28,707
Speaker 3: who produced year after year after year. It'll be interesting

1468
01:21:28,747 --> 01:21:31,747
Speaker 3: to see if today's worry is the young ones last

1469
01:21:31,827 --> 01:21:35,467
Speaker 3: the distance or burnout. Yeah, thanks, Rah, I think you're

1470
01:21:35,627 --> 01:21:38,387
Speaker 3: right about that. One is how good was the crowd

1471
01:21:38,827 --> 01:21:41,787
Speaker 3: r It's another giving him the chante at the end.

1472
01:21:41,907 --> 01:21:44,747
Speaker 3: They were basing extracting the Michael out of the Raiders fan,

1473
01:21:45,227 --> 01:21:49,107
Speaker 3: weren't they? And the CEO Cam George pining on it

1474
01:21:49,507 --> 01:21:52,787
Speaker 3: and anything a lot of fun as well. Paul makes

1475
01:21:52,867 --> 01:21:56,387
Speaker 3: this point, eighty points in two games against predicted top

1476
01:21:56,507 --> 01:22:00,467
Speaker 3: four teams is fantastic. It shows hour attack and defense

1477
01:22:00,627 --> 01:22:04,267
Speaker 3: is working well. Metcalf has to come and that's six

1478
01:22:04,307 --> 01:22:07,947
Speaker 3: when he's available and leave it a boid at seven.

1479
01:22:08,307 --> 01:22:11,947
Speaker 3: I don't think you'll have too many arguments with anyone

1480
01:22:12,267 --> 01:22:16,307
Speaker 3: in that space. Thanks very much for your text. It's

1481
01:22:16,347 --> 01:22:19,187
Speaker 3: been great having you for the last couple of hours.

1482
01:22:19,467 --> 01:22:22,027
Speaker 3: Are we going to climb in for more? Coming up

1483
01:22:22,147 --> 01:22:24,987
Speaker 3: after the latest and new sport and weather, which is

1484
01:22:25,027 --> 01:22:27,947
Speaker 3: coming up next Here at News Talk z B, we're

1485
01:22:27,947 --> 01:22:33,187
Speaker 3: talking Six Nations rugby. Shortly, Chris Jones joins the program

1486
01:22:33,507 --> 01:22:35,347
Speaker 3: from the BBC.

1487
01:22:37,467 --> 01:22:40,707
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1488
01:22:41,987 --> 01:22:44,987
Speaker 1: a head off the field, You've got a story. It's

1489
01:22:45,027 --> 01:22:48,507
Speaker 1: all on Weekend Sport with Darcy Watergrave on your home

1490
01:22:48,547 --> 01:22:50,787
Speaker 1: of Sports News Talks.

1491
01:22:50,827 --> 01:22:51,067
Speaker 10: A me.

1492
01:22:54,587 --> 01:22:58,307
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Here's our three of Weekend a Sport. Please,

1493
01:22:58,387 --> 01:23:00,587
Speaker 3: it's punch to be bringing it to you on Darcy

1494
01:23:00,627 --> 01:23:03,747
Speaker 3: Watergrave sitting in for Jason Pine for the weekend seven

1495
01:23:03,787 --> 01:23:07,147
Speaker 3: after two o'clock. It is the fourteenth of March twenty

1496
01:23:07,627 --> 01:23:10,707
Speaker 3: twenty six. Coming up in this hour on the program,

1497
01:23:11,107 --> 01:23:15,147
Speaker 3: we're going to talk Clay Target World Chance. No, I

1498
01:23:15,227 --> 01:23:18,027
Speaker 3: didn't know either, but I know what it is, but

1499
01:23:18,107 --> 01:23:20,787
Speaker 3: we're going to find out more about that later in

1500
01:23:20,867 --> 01:23:25,467
Speaker 3: the piece. Nick Becker, the chief executive of the Auckland

1501
01:23:25,947 --> 01:23:29,547
Speaker 3: FC side take on Newcastle to the top of the

1502
01:23:29,587 --> 01:23:32,267
Speaker 3: table class or we'll get amongst that with Nick and

1503
01:23:32,347 --> 01:23:35,667
Speaker 3: we're going to kick the show off with Chris Jones

1504
01:23:35,707 --> 01:23:39,227
Speaker 3: BBC Rugby corresponding, as we look at the final round

1505
01:23:39,587 --> 01:23:42,947
Speaker 3: of the Six Nations, which has been berserk so far.

1506
01:23:43,547 --> 01:23:46,747
Speaker 3: If you've been lucky enough to catch any of that

1507
01:23:46,947 --> 01:23:50,827
Speaker 3: three games Island Scotland, Myles, Italy, France, England, we will

1508
01:23:50,827 --> 01:23:54,067
Speaker 3: look toward all of those, but for the here and now,

1509
01:23:54,147 --> 01:23:57,347
Speaker 3: as we do every Saturday and Sunday, we'll get you

1510
01:23:57,387 --> 01:24:01,507
Speaker 3: across things that you may have missed in sport, and

1511
01:24:01,627 --> 01:24:05,507
Speaker 3: we call it predictably in case you missed it. And

1512
01:24:05,547 --> 01:24:08,907
Speaker 3: we'll start with the AA film where Hawthorne have bounced

1513
01:24:08,987 --> 01:24:12,467
Speaker 3: back from their opening loss to get a big one.

1514
01:24:12,947 --> 01:24:16,107
Speaker 17: Other is Tim up for the last.

1515
01:24:15,827 --> 01:24:17,987
Speaker 3: One here for the Hawks.

1516
01:24:18,027 --> 01:24:23,347
Speaker 9: Brd Watson's out, then it hits him Colors Lord last

1517
01:24:23,347 --> 01:24:24,947
Speaker 9: week to make it for.

1518
01:24:26,227 --> 01:24:27,947
Speaker 21: And a ten goal margin.

1519
01:24:29,227 --> 01:24:35,387
Speaker 3: On and enmed up flogging them. The final score one

1520
01:24:35,467 --> 01:24:41,707
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five plays eighty three. Well done Hawthorne, Shanghai.

1521
01:24:42,227 --> 01:24:47,627
Speaker 3: Another great day for the Formula one peddler, mister George Russell.

1522
01:24:47,947 --> 01:24:52,667
Speaker 22: It's a Mercedes front row here and McLaren laid down

1523
01:24:52,707 --> 01:24:53,267
Speaker 22: the charge.

1524
01:24:53,347 --> 01:24:55,067
Speaker 17: Ferrari laid down the.

1525
01:24:55,067 --> 01:24:59,027
Speaker 22: Charge, but he led every single session to this matter

1526
01:24:59,107 --> 01:25:02,307
Speaker 22: for the first time in his Formula One career, takes

1527
01:25:02,307 --> 01:25:03,107
Speaker 22: a sprint pole.

1528
01:25:03,667 --> 01:25:06,067
Speaker 3: He gets away at four o'clock the sprint race, looking

1529
01:25:06,107 --> 01:25:09,267
Speaker 3: fo to it be and laws and qualified down the park.

1530
01:25:09,347 --> 01:25:13,787
Speaker 3: It's a dangerous place to be in sprint races. Hurricanes

1531
01:25:13,987 --> 01:25:18,667
Speaker 3: eight in a row in Napier, of all places.

1532
01:25:18,707 --> 01:25:19,387
Speaker 4: They beat the.

1533
01:25:19,347 --> 01:25:22,107
Speaker 3: Western Force last night, so I forget that if they

1534
01:25:22,147 --> 01:25:24,867
Speaker 3: were to score anot of try was charged down by Warner.

1535
01:25:24,947 --> 01:25:26,107
Speaker 2: Turns he's charging through.

1536
01:25:26,307 --> 01:25:27,547
Speaker 3: He's picked it up water.

1537
01:25:27,787 --> 01:25:31,627
Speaker 2: Don's want to try? What a big fella knocked it on?

1538
01:25:31,787 --> 01:25:35,027
Speaker 3: Not there long ago? Yeah, and eight in a row

1539
01:25:35,067 --> 01:25:38,227
Speaker 3: in Napier, Not eight in a row in Napier. The

1540
01:25:38,307 --> 01:25:41,507
Speaker 3: pause was terrible. For that's ak I've explained it to you.

1541
01:25:41,907 --> 01:25:45,627
Speaker 3: Thirty one at twenty three puts the Hurricanes right up

1542
01:25:45,667 --> 01:25:48,387
Speaker 3: the top number one on the Super Rugby Pacific table,

1543
01:25:48,747 --> 01:25:53,627
Speaker 3: and despite losing, nothing could take away from Rabado's winger

1544
01:25:53,947 --> 01:25:58,547
Speaker 3: Alex Johnson as he made history last night.

1545
01:25:59,147 --> 01:26:02,547
Speaker 21: Comes could it be down? Mitchell down the side?

1546
01:26:02,747 --> 01:26:10,027
Speaker 22: Charles's dead chudged for the chuckst history two thirteen. Alex

1547
01:26:10,147 --> 01:26:13,587
Speaker 22: Johnston has done it.

1548
01:26:12,627 --> 01:26:14,987
Speaker 13: Two hundred and thirteen tries.

1549
01:26:15,667 --> 01:26:21,427
Speaker 5: Alex Johnston step to lard as Australian Rugby links greatest

1550
01:26:21,507 --> 01:26:25,187
Speaker 5: try score and the fans can't be checked off the field.

1551
01:26:26,547 --> 01:26:29,507
Speaker 1: The big names and the big calls on your home

1552
01:26:29,547 --> 01:26:33,827
Speaker 1: of Sport Weekend Sport with Darcy Waldgrave, News Talk zimb

1553
01:26:34,347 --> 01:26:34,987
Speaker 1: It's the.

1554
01:26:34,867 --> 01:26:38,547
Speaker 3: Final week of the sixth Nations. Ireland take on Scotland

1555
01:26:38,587 --> 01:26:42,227
Speaker 3: at ten past three tomorrow morning, Wales play Italy that's

1556
01:26:42,267 --> 01:26:45,507
Speaker 3: at twenty to six twenty to six tomorrow morning, and

1557
01:26:45,707 --> 01:26:51,267
Speaker 3: France the England at ten past nine tomorrow morning. Ireland Scotland, France.

1558
01:26:51,267 --> 01:26:53,747
Speaker 3: They can all still win it. Italy is safe from

1559
01:26:53,747 --> 01:26:56,507
Speaker 3: the wooden spoon. You wouldn't read about it. And surprisingly

1560
01:26:56,907 --> 01:27:00,787
Speaker 3: England come into the final week with only one win

1561
01:27:01,347 --> 01:27:03,947
Speaker 3: to their name. Chris Jones is on the program now

1562
01:27:04,027 --> 01:27:05,987
Speaker 3: is out of the b b C. How are you

1563
01:27:05,987 --> 01:27:06,787
Speaker 3: getting made?

1564
01:27:07,547 --> 01:27:07,787
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1565
01:27:07,907 --> 01:27:09,907
Speaker 17: Very good? How you getting on? Good to be here again?

1566
01:27:09,987 --> 01:27:10,147
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1567
01:27:10,147 --> 01:27:12,387
Speaker 3: And now I'm getting on very well. I don't know

1568
01:27:12,547 --> 01:27:15,147
Speaker 3: if it's a fierce statement to say this is possibly

1569
01:27:15,147 --> 01:27:18,747
Speaker 3: the best six Nations in living memory. What a tournament's

1570
01:27:18,787 --> 01:27:19,427
Speaker 3: been so far?

1571
01:27:20,507 --> 01:27:20,707
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1572
01:27:20,787 --> 01:27:24,427
Speaker 23: So I was thinking about this because we've all been

1573
01:27:24,467 --> 01:27:27,387
Speaker 23: gripped by it up here and of the twelve games

1574
01:27:27,427 --> 01:27:30,907
Speaker 23: that have taken place so far, I think maybe four

1575
01:27:30,947 --> 01:27:34,467
Speaker 23: of them have been kind of easy to call France

1576
01:27:34,907 --> 01:27:39,067
Speaker 23: when they played Italy at home, Wales against France, France

1577
01:27:39,067 --> 01:27:42,707
Speaker 23: against Ireland, maybe England Wales. Those four the only four

1578
01:27:42,707 --> 01:27:44,267
Speaker 23: that have kind of gone to the form book. The

1579
01:27:44,347 --> 01:27:48,787
Speaker 23: other eight have either been upsets, or they've been upsets

1580
01:27:48,907 --> 01:27:52,067
Speaker 23: that have not been far away from happening. You know,

1581
01:27:52,187 --> 01:27:54,707
Speaker 23: times when Ireland have you know, almost lost home to Wales,

1582
01:27:54,787 --> 01:27:57,467
Speaker 23: or Whales have almost been in Scotland, or Scotland have

1583
01:27:57,587 --> 01:27:59,787
Speaker 23: been in England, or Scotland have been in France, or

1584
01:27:59,947 --> 01:28:02,747
Speaker 23: Ireland have been in England, Italy have been in England.

1585
01:28:02,787 --> 01:28:05,707
Speaker 23: There's been so much going on. It's been a brilliant tournament.

1586
01:28:06,387 --> 01:28:10,067
Speaker 23: Italy being a properly competitive side helped with that. And

1587
01:28:10,107 --> 01:28:11,747
Speaker 23: I know Wales are not where they want to be,

1588
01:28:12,467 --> 01:28:14,587
Speaker 23: but the fact that everyone could beat everyone at the

1589
01:28:14,627 --> 01:28:18,067
Speaker 23: moment just has has lent itself to it being a

1590
01:28:18,107 --> 01:28:20,347
Speaker 23: magic tournament. And hopefully, as I speak to you on

1591
01:28:20,347 --> 01:28:23,267
Speaker 23: the streets of Paris twenty four hours before the France

1592
01:28:23,307 --> 01:28:25,827
Speaker 23: England game, but with so many great games tomorrow, it's

1593
01:28:25,867 --> 01:28:27,947
Speaker 23: going to be a special data to cap off a

1594
01:28:27,947 --> 01:28:28,667
Speaker 23: special tournament.

1595
01:28:28,987 --> 01:28:32,267
Speaker 3: BIG's a question, Chris, why has it tuned into this

1596
01:28:32,707 --> 01:28:35,587
Speaker 3: crazy bunfight? What what's changed? What's happened?

1597
01:28:36,867 --> 01:28:40,027
Speaker 4: Well, I think Italy adding.

1598
01:28:41,467 --> 01:28:44,227
Speaker 23: For a large period of time, Italy weren't at the

1599
01:28:44,307 --> 01:28:47,947
Speaker 23: races in this tournament. So them being in the situation

1600
01:28:47,987 --> 01:28:50,467
Speaker 23: where they've won two and might win three, I think

1601
01:28:50,507 --> 01:28:54,707
Speaker 23: then helps every weekend having all three games meaning a lot. Now,

1602
01:28:54,947 --> 01:28:57,267
Speaker 23: there was definitely a period because remember Italy went through

1603
01:28:57,267 --> 01:29:00,067
Speaker 23: a barren run between twenty fifteen and twenty twenty two

1604
01:29:00,107 --> 01:29:02,827
Speaker 23: where they didn't win a single game in seven years, literally.

1605
01:29:02,667 --> 01:29:05,547
Speaker 3: Ara Baron Raun, let's be honest about it. I still

1606
01:29:05,587 --> 01:29:08,707
Speaker 3: don't why they're actually in the sixth nation. Does Biza

1607
01:29:09,347 --> 01:29:09,947
Speaker 3: carry on?

1608
01:29:10,947 --> 01:29:11,867
Speaker 17: But they had this.

1609
01:29:11,787 --> 01:29:14,187
Speaker 23: Period where they were they were not winning any games,

1610
01:29:14,187 --> 01:29:17,747
Speaker 23: and now they've won for the last three four championships,

1611
01:29:17,747 --> 01:29:20,027
Speaker 23: they've won a game every year, sometimes two, and this

1612
01:29:20,147 --> 01:29:22,507
Speaker 23: year they might win three. And if they win three

1613
01:29:22,547 --> 01:29:25,627
Speaker 23: games out of five, they're a proper team, a proper

1614
01:29:25,667 --> 01:29:28,387
Speaker 23: competitive team. They've always been a team that can compete,

1615
01:29:28,387 --> 01:29:30,507
Speaker 23: but can they a team that can actually go and

1616
01:29:30,587 --> 01:29:34,187
Speaker 23: back up results week on week and week and for

1617
01:29:34,227 --> 01:29:35,947
Speaker 23: a long period of time, they weren't able to do that.

1618
01:29:36,027 --> 01:29:38,627
Speaker 17: So Italy getting better and better has helped.

1619
01:29:39,667 --> 01:29:43,067
Speaker 23: I think England we expected more from them, France we

1620
01:29:43,147 --> 01:29:45,987
Speaker 23: maybe expected them to be in the hunt for a

1621
01:29:46,027 --> 01:29:48,867
Speaker 23: Grand Slam. But I think you've got a situation now

1622
01:29:48,907 --> 01:29:52,027
Speaker 23: where say ten to fifteen years ago, where Scotland weren't great,

1623
01:29:52,147 --> 01:29:55,387
Speaker 23: Italy weren't great, and one or two other teams were indifferent.

1624
01:29:55,667 --> 01:29:57,587
Speaker 17: Now you've got a situation where Italy.

1625
01:29:57,307 --> 01:30:00,627
Speaker 23: Are strong, Scotland are strong, Ireland are strong, England and

1626
01:30:00,627 --> 01:30:04,467
Speaker 23: France or England and France, and yes, Wales are not

1627
01:30:04,507 --> 01:30:06,867
Speaker 23: where they want to be, but there are. It's a

1628
01:30:07,027 --> 01:30:09,987
Speaker 23: very competitive landscape at the moment, which I think has

1629
01:30:10,067 --> 01:30:14,387
Speaker 23: contributed to it being a very, very very a tournament

1630
01:30:14,427 --> 01:30:16,987
Speaker 23: that's made that's been so difficult to call when you

1631
01:30:17,027 --> 01:30:18,867
Speaker 23: look at every game in isolation.

1632
01:30:18,987 --> 01:30:22,347
Speaker 3: When you describe the tournament full stop, how would you

1633
01:30:22,427 --> 01:30:25,627
Speaker 3: describe the way things have happened, The style of player are,

1634
01:30:25,667 --> 01:30:29,067
Speaker 3: the attitude around players, what we've experienced. How much has

1635
01:30:29,107 --> 01:30:32,907
Speaker 3: that different from from previous editions of the Six Nations.

1636
01:30:33,787 --> 01:30:36,427
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think there's a there's been a few common themes,

1637
01:30:36,467 --> 01:30:39,907
Speaker 23: but also you've seen teams playing in different styles. You've

1638
01:30:39,947 --> 01:30:42,387
Speaker 23: seen games like It's Lee England, which was a bit

1639
01:30:42,387 --> 01:30:43,907
Speaker 23: more of a slug first, a bit more of an

1640
01:30:44,027 --> 01:30:47,947
Speaker 23: arm wrestle, and games like Scotland France, which was fifty

1641
01:30:47,987 --> 01:30:50,747
Speaker 23: points to forty a proper old school super rugby kind

1642
01:30:50,747 --> 01:30:52,867
Speaker 23: of gave you know, that was the game that you

1643
01:30:52,907 --> 01:30:54,867
Speaker 23: don't get to offer in six Nations, but it was

1644
01:30:54,867 --> 01:30:57,427
Speaker 23: two teams playing a load of rugby. I think the

1645
01:30:57,427 --> 01:30:59,467
Speaker 23: theme which has been great is that teams that have

1646
01:30:59,547 --> 01:31:03,587
Speaker 23: been brave have prevailed. And we've seen England, for example,

1647
01:31:03,707 --> 01:31:07,427
Speaker 23: probably play within themselves a bit. Ireland when they've played

1648
01:31:07,427 --> 01:31:10,347
Speaker 23: in Paris on the opening night, they've played within themselves.

1649
01:31:10,547 --> 01:31:13,067
Speaker 23: They wait to kind of hang in there rather than

1650
01:31:13,107 --> 01:31:15,187
Speaker 23: really going to win the game, and they lost and

1651
01:31:15,227 --> 01:31:18,027
Speaker 23: lost badly. Saying with England a couple of times this

1652
01:31:18,107 --> 01:31:20,627
Speaker 23: tournament they've gone to hang in without actually going to

1653
01:31:20,667 --> 01:31:23,267
Speaker 23: try and win the game. And so we've seen teams

1654
01:31:23,307 --> 01:31:26,507
Speaker 23: like Scotland, seen teams like Ireland at Twickenham seems like

1655
01:31:26,587 --> 01:31:29,547
Speaker 23: France against Ireland seems like Italy at the latter stage

1656
01:31:29,547 --> 01:31:32,427
Speaker 23: of the England game, where the ones that have slightly

1657
01:31:33,307 --> 01:31:35,507
Speaker 23: rolled the dice, that have just pushed the boundaries and

1658
01:31:36,107 --> 01:31:38,267
Speaker 23: taken things on see what's in front of them.

1659
01:31:38,587 --> 01:31:39,787
Speaker 17: Fortunes favored the brave.

1660
01:31:40,867 --> 01:31:42,987
Speaker 23: Yeah, fortune has favored the teams that have taken that

1661
01:31:43,027 --> 01:31:44,667
Speaker 23: little bit of risk, which has been great to see.

1662
01:31:45,027 --> 01:31:47,867
Speaker 3: And this is joyous to us in the Southern hemisphere

1663
01:31:47,907 --> 01:31:50,707
Speaker 3: as opposed to the traditional doa type of rugby. Well

1664
01:31:50,707 --> 01:31:54,587
Speaker 3: that's how we perceive it. Anyway, they're actually playing exciting,

1665
01:31:55,027 --> 01:31:58,627
Speaker 3: eyeball rugby. People want to watch this and this this

1666
01:31:58,827 --> 01:32:03,027
Speaker 3: bodes well for the upcoming Nations Championship.

1667
01:32:03,187 --> 01:32:07,227
Speaker 23: For sure, and like I'm for me, fifty points to

1668
01:32:07,387 --> 01:32:10,827
Speaker 23: forty game is not necessarily better than a twenty five

1669
01:32:10,947 --> 01:32:15,147
Speaker 23: twenty game. All I think fans want to see is good,

1670
01:32:15,347 --> 01:32:18,467
Speaker 23: accurate at rugby, which when you're where teams play with

1671
01:32:18,507 --> 01:32:19,187
Speaker 23: real intention.

1672
01:32:19,347 --> 01:32:21,667
Speaker 17: Now it might be that your intention is to kick goal,

1673
01:32:21,787 --> 01:32:22,187
Speaker 17: which is.

1674
01:32:22,147 --> 01:32:24,907
Speaker 23: Fine, but what you don't want to see is scenes

1675
01:32:24,907 --> 01:32:27,707
Speaker 23: that are kind of between styles aren't able to execute

1676
01:32:27,747 --> 01:32:29,067
Speaker 23: what they're trying to do. And I think what's been

1677
01:32:29,067 --> 01:32:32,987
Speaker 23: good about this tournament is that we've seen running rugby,

1678
01:32:33,067 --> 01:32:35,587
Speaker 23: but we've also seen the importance of the set piece,

1679
01:32:35,747 --> 01:32:37,747
Speaker 23: in the importance of defense. I think it's been a

1680
01:32:37,787 --> 01:32:42,427
Speaker 23: good all round exhibition of what you want from the sport.

1681
01:32:42,547 --> 01:32:45,187
Speaker 23: There are different ways to play it. No one way

1682
01:32:45,267 --> 01:32:47,627
Speaker 23: is necessarily better than the other. But also when you

1683
01:32:47,627 --> 01:32:51,987
Speaker 23: see Scotland play seven try rugby fifty points against France,

1684
01:32:52,027 --> 01:32:54,667
Speaker 23: it's hard not to get swept up in that. And

1685
01:32:54,707 --> 01:32:57,267
Speaker 23: I think when teams have come to just compete and

1686
01:32:57,307 --> 01:33:00,427
Speaker 23: hang in there, they're the ones that have often have

1687
01:33:00,547 --> 01:33:02,987
Speaker 23: not come out the right side of the results. So yeah,

1688
01:33:03,027 --> 01:33:06,107
Speaker 23: like the game has definitely transformed in the Norton hemisphere

1689
01:33:06,107 --> 01:33:09,627
Speaker 23: over the decades. It's you get a real mixed bad

1690
01:33:09,707 --> 01:33:12,147
Speaker 23: from seems to want to play pressure rugby and territory

1691
01:33:12,187 --> 01:33:14,587
Speaker 23: rugby and kick to compete rugby and those that play

1692
01:33:14,627 --> 01:33:16,547
Speaker 23: with a little bit more freedom. And I think the

1693
01:33:16,587 --> 01:33:19,107
Speaker 23: best teams and the team that wins the championship, whether

1694
01:33:19,147 --> 01:33:21,627
Speaker 23: it's going to be Arland, Scotland or France, I think

1695
01:33:21,667 --> 01:33:24,107
Speaker 23: will have shown a real blend of styles over the

1696
01:33:24,147 --> 01:33:25,347
Speaker 23: course of the last six weeks.

1697
01:33:25,627 --> 01:33:28,987
Speaker 3: Rugby Rhino from the BBC Rugby Broadcast and the BBC

1698
01:33:29,107 --> 01:33:31,867
Speaker 3: Chris Jones had joins us. Now, when you look at

1699
01:33:31,907 --> 01:33:36,507
Speaker 3: the competition as a whole, outstanding players as anybody stood

1700
01:33:36,547 --> 01:33:39,147
Speaker 3: above or a number of players stood above the rest.

1701
01:33:39,147 --> 01:33:40,987
Speaker 3: Who have you loved watching play?

1702
01:33:41,707 --> 01:33:44,147
Speaker 23: Oh so there's a fair few to talk about. There's

1703
01:33:44,147 --> 01:33:47,227
Speaker 23: a guy who plays number twelve for Italy at the moment,

1704
01:33:47,547 --> 01:33:50,347
Speaker 23: who won the actual tournament Player of the Year two

1705
01:33:50,427 --> 01:33:54,387
Speaker 23: years ago. Tomaso Meninicello scored an individual try against England,

1706
01:33:54,787 --> 01:33:58,827
Speaker 23: set up the game winning try against England two. He's

1707
01:33:58,867 --> 01:34:01,707
Speaker 23: been classed Louis bil Bierre and I'm standing here on

1708
01:34:01,747 --> 01:34:04,747
Speaker 23: the streets of Paris and he's the darling in these parts.

1709
01:34:05,227 --> 01:34:07,267
Speaker 17: He is looking to go tomorrow.

1710
01:34:07,627 --> 01:34:10,027
Speaker 23: If he does that, he will have scored in every

1711
01:34:10,107 --> 01:34:13,427
Speaker 23: Six Nations game for the last two championships.

1712
01:34:13,667 --> 01:34:17,867
Speaker 17: That is bonkers. That is completely unprecedented. It's like scoring.

1713
01:34:17,947 --> 01:34:20,587
Speaker 23: Imagine playing rugby championship and you score every game for

1714
01:34:20,667 --> 01:34:23,987
Speaker 23: two years in a row. I can't get my head

1715
01:34:23,987 --> 01:34:26,307
Speaker 23: around it. But that's what he's trying to do tomorrow.

1716
01:34:26,387 --> 01:34:29,267
Speaker 23: Say he's someone that I think has been has been brilliant.

1717
01:34:29,387 --> 01:34:32,227
Speaker 23: There's plenty of guys across the piece. I know he's

1718
01:34:32,227 --> 01:34:34,307
Speaker 23: been in a losing team, but I think Benel for

1719
01:34:34,387 --> 01:34:37,587
Speaker 23: England has been a force of nature. Robert Balacoun for

1720
01:34:37,667 --> 01:34:40,187
Speaker 23: Ireland has shown that little bit of pace that Ireland

1721
01:34:40,467 --> 01:34:43,307
Speaker 23: have perhaps been lacking and you know, for Wales, someone

1722
01:34:43,347 --> 01:34:45,547
Speaker 23: like Alex Mann has put his body on the line.

1723
01:34:45,667 --> 01:34:48,587
Speaker 23: Dowry laked hooker because the Welsh have stood up physically.

1724
01:34:48,667 --> 01:34:50,867
Speaker 23: Yes they've been losing games, but they kind of turned

1725
01:34:50,867 --> 01:34:54,187
Speaker 23: a corner in terms of their competitiveness. So there's just

1726
01:34:54,227 --> 01:34:56,467
Speaker 23: been so much to talk about. So glad to be

1727
01:34:56,507 --> 01:34:58,827
Speaker 23: talking about it with you guys on air tonight. But

1728
01:34:58,947 --> 01:35:01,507
Speaker 23: it's been one of those tournaments where you could, yeah,

1729
01:35:01,547 --> 01:35:03,427
Speaker 23: we're in a French beestro now, but you could be

1730
01:35:03,507 --> 01:35:06,147
Speaker 23: talking long into the evening in this French Beestro about

1731
01:35:06,147 --> 01:35:07,427
Speaker 23: all the things about this tournament.

1732
01:35:07,587 --> 01:35:10,147
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the fixtures coming up, Ireland,

1733
01:35:10,187 --> 01:35:14,587
Speaker 3: the Scotland, Wells, the Italy, France, the England. First up,

1734
01:35:14,787 --> 01:35:17,787
Speaker 3: how many personnel changes have they been normally to war

1735
01:35:17,827 --> 01:35:21,627
Speaker 3: of attrition these six nations and how many key players

1736
01:35:21,667 --> 01:35:22,787
Speaker 3: and not around.

1737
01:35:23,547 --> 01:35:25,947
Speaker 23: That's a good point because the if we look at

1738
01:35:25,947 --> 01:35:28,667
Speaker 23: the Island Scotland game, Scotland are without their first choice

1739
01:35:28,667 --> 01:35:31,747
Speaker 23: second rows Scott Comins and Gregor Brown, so they got

1740
01:35:32,507 --> 01:35:36,787
Speaker 23: Max Williamson and Grant Gilchristan, who are really really good players,

1741
01:35:36,787 --> 01:35:39,867
Speaker 23: but both Brown and come Into have been excellent for Scotland,

1742
01:35:39,907 --> 01:35:43,147
Speaker 23: so they're perhaps the squad that's just feeling the impact

1743
01:35:43,187 --> 01:35:46,547
Speaker 23: of this being a compressed tournament. There's one less rest week.

1744
01:35:46,667 --> 01:35:48,427
Speaker 23: Normally there would be a rest week either side of

1745
01:35:48,467 --> 01:35:51,507
Speaker 23: Round three. This year it's been three weeks back to

1746
01:35:51,587 --> 01:35:53,427
Speaker 23: back and then a rest week then the final two.

1747
01:35:53,907 --> 01:35:56,067
Speaker 23: France have had to make a few changes with Anthony

1748
01:35:56,187 --> 01:35:59,747
Speaker 23: jo Launch injured and Deputaire injured in the midfield. They've

1749
01:35:59,747 --> 01:36:02,627
Speaker 23: also had a band to Oscar Jegu in the back row.

1750
01:36:02,627 --> 01:36:05,347
Speaker 23: England have lost Tom Curry, so it's at this stage

1751
01:36:05,387 --> 01:36:09,067
Speaker 23: of the tournament that they do start to feel that pressure.

1752
01:36:09,147 --> 01:36:11,827
Speaker 23: The teams and you always think that the ones with

1753
01:36:11,907 --> 01:36:14,587
Speaker 23: the deeper squads, the ones with the bigger player pools,

1754
01:36:15,107 --> 01:36:17,467
Speaker 23: whether it's France or England, would prevail, but that might

1755
01:36:17,507 --> 01:36:19,427
Speaker 23: not be the case. And if Scotland were to win

1756
01:36:20,067 --> 01:36:22,347
Speaker 23: against Ireland and win the Triple Crown and put pressure

1757
01:36:22,347 --> 01:36:24,787
Speaker 23: on France for the title, then it'd be an amazing

1758
01:36:24,827 --> 01:36:27,507
Speaker 23: achievement for Gregor Towns inside because Scotland are not blessed

1759
01:36:27,507 --> 01:36:29,547
Speaker 23: with the biggest player pool and for them to go

1760
01:36:29,587 --> 01:36:33,547
Speaker 23: and win a triple Crown and potentially a six Nations

1761
01:36:33,747 --> 01:36:35,947
Speaker 23: in a compressed format I think would be a huge

1762
01:36:35,987 --> 01:36:38,787
Speaker 23: testament to what they've been doing this tournament.

1763
01:36:38,987 --> 01:36:42,267
Speaker 3: Most important game, you'd suggest it as Ireland Scotland because

1764
01:36:42,307 --> 01:36:44,987
Speaker 3: these triple grounds on both sides are up for gregs

1765
01:36:45,027 --> 01:36:47,547
Speaker 3: and obviously you get there done, there's a good chance

1766
01:36:47,587 --> 01:36:49,427
Speaker 3: you pick up the whole box of chocolates.

1767
01:36:50,947 --> 01:36:55,067
Speaker 23: Absolutely, So Ireland to fourteen match points Scotland of sixteen

1768
01:36:55,107 --> 01:36:58,187
Speaker 23: match points France are the same. If France win with

1769
01:36:58,227 --> 01:37:01,307
Speaker 23: a try bonus then they're the champions because the points

1770
01:37:01,307 --> 01:37:04,427
Speaker 23: difference is too good. But wow, how much to play

1771
01:37:04,467 --> 01:37:07,827
Speaker 23: for Ireland Scotland's been a real competitive fixture of the

1772
01:37:07,867 --> 01:37:10,827
Speaker 23: last few years, but it's always been one by Ireland.

1773
01:37:10,867 --> 01:37:14,867
Speaker 23: Scotland haven't won in Dublin in sixteen years. They've not

1774
01:37:14,907 --> 01:37:17,547
Speaker 23: beaten Ireland in the last eleven games. It's eleven in

1775
01:37:17,587 --> 01:37:20,067
Speaker 23: a row for the Irish. So Scotland have beaten France,

1776
01:37:20,227 --> 01:37:22,787
Speaker 23: They've had England's number, They're all over some of the

1777
01:37:22,827 --> 01:37:26,267
Speaker 23: top teams in the world. They've beaten Australia plenty. They can't.

1778
01:37:26,307 --> 01:37:29,667
Speaker 23: They just cannot get the right side of Ireland. And

1779
01:37:29,707 --> 01:37:31,987
Speaker 23: if they can do it away from home in Dublin

1780
01:37:32,027 --> 01:37:33,387
Speaker 23: and pick up a triple crown. It would be one

1781
01:37:33,427 --> 01:37:35,547
Speaker 23: of the biggest days in Scottish rugby history. I know

1782
01:37:36,067 --> 01:37:37,947
Speaker 23: it might not be a title. I know it might

1783
01:37:37,987 --> 01:37:40,267
Speaker 23: not be a Grand Slam, but given they've been so

1784
01:37:40,467 --> 01:37:43,147
Speaker 23: starved of success over the decades, it would be a

1785
01:37:43,187 --> 01:37:45,267
Speaker 23: huge effort if Scotland were to win in Dublin tomorrow.

1786
01:37:45,427 --> 01:37:47,467
Speaker 3: Can England do we run a favoring guy with a

1787
01:37:47,547 --> 01:37:48,907
Speaker 3: bang in actually roll?

1788
01:37:50,827 --> 01:37:53,947
Speaker 17: What a question? Yeah, that's the big Oh God, that's

1789
01:37:53,947 --> 01:37:54,547
Speaker 17: the big question.

1790
01:37:54,627 --> 01:37:59,707
Speaker 23: Made I think that for England there are three eventualities.

1791
01:38:00,747 --> 01:38:04,027
Speaker 23: There's one eventuality where they get blown away and then

1792
01:38:04,227 --> 01:38:06,067
Speaker 23: all bets are off. All bets are off when it

1793
01:38:06,107 --> 01:38:10,027
Speaker 23: comes to the future of the coaching staff, when it

1794
01:38:10,067 --> 01:38:11,707
Speaker 23: comes to the future of this team, if they were

1795
01:38:11,747 --> 01:38:14,867
Speaker 23: to have a four successive defeat, particularly a damaging one.

1796
01:38:16,187 --> 01:38:19,267
Speaker 23: There's the scenario where England compete and play a really

1797
01:38:19,307 --> 01:38:21,747
Speaker 23: good game but still lose in France with the title.

1798
01:38:22,067 --> 01:38:24,667
Speaker 23: And then there's the scenario where England beat France, which

1799
01:38:24,707 --> 01:38:27,627
Speaker 23: is very hard to see off the evidence of the

1800
01:38:27,707 --> 01:38:31,627
Speaker 23: last few weekends. But this England team often do pitch

1801
01:38:31,747 --> 01:38:34,907
Speaker 23: up in adversity. The fact that in adversity a lot

1802
01:38:35,027 --> 01:38:37,467
Speaker 23: is an issue, but they often do manage to react

1803
01:38:37,467 --> 01:38:39,227
Speaker 23: when their backs are firmly against the wall.

1804
01:38:39,347 --> 01:38:40,227
Speaker 17: That's where they are now.

1805
01:38:40,227 --> 01:38:42,627
Speaker 23: I've spent the last week in count with England in

1806
01:38:42,747 --> 01:38:45,667
Speaker 23: Rome and then Verona and now here in Paris. They're

1807
01:38:45,707 --> 01:38:48,907
Speaker 23: talking like a team that still believes, but there's been

1808
01:38:48,907 --> 01:38:51,507
Speaker 23: a lot of talk can they put it into action?

1809
01:38:51,667 --> 01:38:53,867
Speaker 23: And that's what the England fans who have flocked across

1810
01:38:53,867 --> 01:38:55,107
Speaker 23: the channel want to see tomorrow.

1811
01:38:55,307 --> 01:38:57,747
Speaker 3: Wild certainly in maybe not too much on them, but

1812
01:38:57,827 --> 01:39:00,547
Speaker 3: as you mentioned before, they're telling's looking to have a

1813
01:39:00,627 --> 01:39:03,707
Speaker 3: fantastic all round result, but Wyal's trying to put themselves

1814
01:39:03,867 --> 01:39:06,307
Speaker 3: not off the bottom of the table, but trying to

1815
01:39:06,427 --> 01:39:09,467
Speaker 3: put a decent showing. What do you like in that one?

1816
01:39:10,587 --> 01:39:13,347
Speaker 23: It's a great game and you're right, the bigger games

1817
01:39:13,347 --> 01:39:16,307
Speaker 23: of the day are Ireland, Scotland, France England. But this

1818
01:39:16,427 --> 01:39:19,547
Speaker 23: is massive because if Italy were to win, it would

1819
01:39:19,547 --> 01:39:23,347
Speaker 23: be their best six Nations ever in twenty six years.

1820
01:39:23,347 --> 01:39:25,067
Speaker 23: For them to win three out of five, to have

1821
01:39:25,067 --> 01:39:27,787
Speaker 23: a winning six Nations would be huge and they won't

1822
01:39:27,787 --> 01:39:31,067
Speaker 23: get a better chance than beating than trying to achieve

1823
01:39:31,147 --> 01:39:32,987
Speaker 23: that against the Welsh team that haven't won a game

1824
01:39:33,027 --> 01:39:35,587
Speaker 23: in three years in the Six Nations, so that's what's

1825
01:39:35,587 --> 01:39:38,387
Speaker 23: on the line for Italy, but for Wales they're in

1826
01:39:38,427 --> 01:39:41,307
Speaker 23: the dol drums. Welsh rugby is on its knees. But

1827
01:39:41,427 --> 01:39:45,627
Speaker 23: they showed signs against Scotland at home, showed signs against

1828
01:39:45,627 --> 01:39:49,027
Speaker 23: Ireland away. They're back at home. I wouldn't say that

1829
01:39:49,147 --> 01:39:51,507
Speaker 23: Welsh rugby believes the game, but there's just a ripple

1830
01:39:51,507 --> 01:39:54,427
Speaker 23: of belief and sometimes for those players wearing red, they

1831
01:39:54,507 --> 01:39:57,147
Speaker 23: just need a ripple and once they start to believe,

1832
01:39:57,187 --> 01:40:01,507
Speaker 23: they grow six inches in their shirt. They are men

1833
01:40:01,587 --> 01:40:03,827
Speaker 23: possessed when they're on a roll of the Welsh and

1834
01:40:03,907 --> 01:40:06,227
Speaker 23: can they get to that point against Italy. So yes,

1835
01:40:06,507 --> 01:40:08,867
Speaker 23: it's not the biggest game of the day, but there

1836
01:40:08,947 --> 01:40:11,067
Speaker 23: is still so much on it because if Wales win,

1837
01:40:11,347 --> 01:40:15,147
Speaker 23: it's a much needed boost of a whole rugby landscape

1838
01:40:15,147 --> 01:40:17,867
Speaker 23: in the country. And if Italy win then they've made history.

1839
01:40:17,947 --> 01:40:19,227
Speaker 23: So what a great game.

1840
01:40:19,987 --> 01:40:22,667
Speaker 17: And there should be three three three crackers tomorrow they a.

1841
01:40:22,707 --> 01:40:25,067
Speaker 3: Quick fire and I know it's some possible predicts because

1842
01:40:25,067 --> 01:40:30,507
Speaker 3: that's been the sixth Nations so far. Who do you like, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Italy, France, England.

1843
01:40:30,867 --> 01:40:33,227
Speaker 23: Okay, so I think the first game of the day

1844
01:40:33,267 --> 01:40:36,467
Speaker 23: Ireland Scotland. I'm going Ireland, second game Wales, Italy, I'm

1845
01:40:36,507 --> 01:40:39,867
Speaker 23: going Italy, third game France England. Do you know what,

1846
01:40:39,947 --> 01:40:42,067
Speaker 23: I am putting myself out here to get shot at,

1847
01:40:42,107 --> 01:40:44,467
Speaker 23: But I'm going to go England on the final final game.

1848
01:40:44,507 --> 01:40:48,227
Speaker 23: With that, that's that's not much evidence. I just wonder

1849
01:40:48,227 --> 01:40:49,747
Speaker 23: if there is a finally bit of life left in

1850
01:40:49,787 --> 01:40:50,707
Speaker 23: his England team so.

1851
01:40:50,827 --> 01:40:52,787
Speaker 3: And the wrap up who wins the whole competition?

1852
01:40:52,867 --> 01:40:56,507
Speaker 23: Then if those were there so on that, if I

1853
01:40:56,507 --> 01:40:59,107
Speaker 23: if my predictions come through, then it's Ireland, would you believe?

1854
01:40:59,147 --> 01:40:59,787
Speaker 17: Out of nowhere?

1855
01:41:00,307 --> 01:41:01,827
Speaker 23: And I was here on the opening night where they

1856
01:41:01,907 --> 01:41:05,627
Speaker 23: got smashed by France, and of France, which could be

1857
01:41:05,707 --> 01:41:08,587
Speaker 23: Ireland to fed but I think the smart money is France.

1858
01:41:08,667 --> 01:41:10,187
Speaker 23: But there could be a few twists and the tail

1859
01:41:10,267 --> 01:41:12,507
Speaker 23: and keeping with the way the tournament's gone.

1860
01:41:12,467 --> 01:41:14,987
Speaker 3: And last, but certainly not last. Chris Jones maybe see

1861
01:41:15,027 --> 01:41:18,907
Speaker 3: Rugby Correspondent. Thanks very much for your time expertise. As always,

1862
01:41:19,187 --> 01:41:21,707
Speaker 3: who's going to be the next England coach? Anyways's got

1863
01:41:21,867 --> 01:41:24,987
Speaker 3: going to last? Apparently John Mitchell's being lined up for it. Oh,

1864
01:41:25,067 --> 01:41:27,067
Speaker 3: I have no idea what's happening on that front. I

1865
01:41:27,067 --> 01:41:29,427
Speaker 3: mean I think look the the r and the of

1866
01:41:29,507 --> 01:41:31,027
Speaker 3: it is. I don't think anyone wants to make a

1867
01:41:31,107 --> 01:41:32,867
Speaker 3: change for an rfew point of view. They want to

1868
01:41:32,867 --> 01:41:33,947
Speaker 3: get both with a bit of time.

1869
01:41:34,187 --> 01:41:36,187
Speaker 23: They do have to think of what happens if things

1870
01:41:36,227 --> 01:41:40,107
Speaker 23: turn really sour. Part of me feels that England will

1871
01:41:40,147 --> 01:41:43,187
Speaker 23: do enough tomorrow night just to park the conversation for

1872
01:41:43,267 --> 01:41:47,307
Speaker 23: a little bit. But whether Borthwick lasts the next few months,

1873
01:41:47,347 --> 01:41:48,987
Speaker 23: a few years, whatever, they do need to be think

1874
01:41:49,027 --> 01:41:51,147
Speaker 23: about about down the track. I do have a guy,

1875
01:41:51,147 --> 01:41:54,107
Speaker 23: as you say, John Mitchley's got great coaching experience under

1876
01:41:54,107 --> 01:41:56,227
Speaker 23: the roof and he's got a new deal with the

1877
01:41:56,667 --> 01:41:59,787
Speaker 23: women's side, the Red Roses. But for now I think

1878
01:41:59,827 --> 01:42:01,427
Speaker 23: the mood of the R A few is to try

1879
01:42:01,427 --> 01:42:02,827
Speaker 23: and keep faith with Steve Borthwick.

1880
01:42:03,107 --> 01:42:05,547
Speaker 17: What they do need is performances to back up that face.

1881
01:42:06,347 --> 01:42:08,507
Speaker 3: They do a New Zealand and they kept faith in

1882
01:42:08,587 --> 01:42:11,267
Speaker 3: Graham Henry and it worked out quite well. Hey Chris,

1883
01:42:11,387 --> 01:42:13,107
Speaker 3: always a please with my friend. Thanks so much for

1884
01:42:13,187 --> 01:42:15,987
Speaker 3: your time. Do grab yourself a cross sighn't and a

1885
01:42:16,027 --> 01:42:18,787
Speaker 3: delicious coffee for us and we'll catch up Soony.

1886
01:42:19,307 --> 01:42:21,027
Speaker 17: Great to shout, good speak Jess.

1887
01:42:21,387 --> 01:42:23,867
Speaker 3: Always good to catch up with you as well. Off

1888
01:42:24,187 --> 01:42:26,347
Speaker 3: to the BBC and how many times did he tell

1889
01:42:26,427 --> 01:42:28,027
Speaker 3: us he was in Paris? Yeah, I know you're in

1890
01:42:28,107 --> 01:42:31,027
Speaker 3: Paris behind You've got me with that one, Chris Jones

1891
01:42:31,267 --> 01:42:34,787
Speaker 3: out of the BBC. Three games to wind up the

1892
01:42:34,827 --> 01:42:39,467
Speaker 3: Six Nations over nineteen past three. Ireland hosts Scotland at

1893
01:42:39,707 --> 01:42:43,947
Speaker 3: twenty to six, Wales host Italy and at ten past

1894
01:42:44,067 --> 01:42:48,867
Speaker 3: nine on Sunday morning, France host England. That's the master plan.

1895
01:42:49,307 --> 01:42:53,987
Speaker 3: Coming up next on News Talk ZBB on Weekend Sport,

1896
01:42:54,307 --> 01:42:56,907
Speaker 3: we got to talk a wee bitter football. We're going

1897
01:42:56,947 --> 01:43:01,347
Speaker 3: to be joined by Auckland FC CEO Nick Becker. It's

1898
01:43:01,387 --> 01:43:05,387
Speaker 3: a pretty big game for the kids. At seven o'clock tonight.

1899
01:43:05,467 --> 01:43:08,107
Speaker 3: This is News to c B. It is two twenty seven.

1900
01:43:08,707 --> 01:43:12,387
Speaker 1: If it metters in sports, it metters here Weekend Sport

1901
01:43:12,547 --> 01:43:16,907
Speaker 1: with Dancy Wandergrave and GJ. Gudnomes, New Zealand's most trusted

1902
01:43:16,947 --> 01:43:19,427
Speaker 1: home builder, News Talks at b It's.

1903
01:43:19,307 --> 01:43:22,107
Speaker 3: Half past two. Time now talk about a football on

1904
01:43:22,227 --> 01:43:26,187
Speaker 3: the big top of the table Clash tonight in Newcastle Auckland.

1905
01:43:26,227 --> 01:43:28,787
Speaker 3: If C face the Jets seven o'clock to night it

1906
01:43:28,907 --> 01:43:32,587
Speaker 3: kicks off. The Jets are four points clear Auckland. If

1907
01:43:32,627 --> 01:43:36,587
Speaker 3: se though can close the gap with the wind. Last

1908
01:43:36,627 --> 01:43:39,867
Speaker 3: time they played it was a big win for Newcastle.

1909
01:43:40,307 --> 01:43:41,587
Speaker 17: Lock and Rose at the near.

1910
01:43:41,507 --> 01:43:44,627
Speaker 13: Post and now Roses and bout out of this area.

1911
01:43:44,827 --> 01:43:48,147
Speaker 13: Mark now if you can play lucky, Rosan can roast

1912
01:43:48,147 --> 01:43:48,547
Speaker 13: get there?

1913
01:43:49,307 --> 01:43:52,827
Speaker 21: Lock on Rose and the Newcastle.

1914
01:43:52,187 --> 01:43:55,507
Speaker 9: Jets us fast and grab.

1915
01:43:55,587 --> 01:43:57,187
Speaker 2: On New Year's Days.

1916
01:43:57,907 --> 01:44:00,707
Speaker 3: The box Office Jets take.

1917
01:44:00,587 --> 01:44:01,747
Speaker 17: All three points.

1918
01:44:02,067 --> 01:44:05,707
Speaker 3: Thanks very much as Sky TV and of course Jason Pine.

1919
01:44:05,867 --> 01:44:08,907
Speaker 3: I've bound them up and wire and shove them under

1920
01:44:08,907 --> 01:44:11,707
Speaker 3: the desk. Maybe we'll let him go next weekend. Anyway,

1921
01:44:11,827 --> 01:44:16,387
Speaker 3: joining us now Auckland FC CEO mister Nick Becker, and

1922
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Speaker 3: as I mentioned Nick, normally it's Jason Pine talking football,

1923
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Speaker 3: but today it is me.

1924
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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, Darcy Poinne.

1925
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Speaker 21: Great to be on your show.

1926
01:44:26,067 --> 01:44:28,867
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for mistaking me. I love that work. Hey,

1927
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Speaker 3: massive night for your team tonight. Top of the table class.

1928
01:44:33,227 --> 01:44:36,627
Speaker 3: This is besides the Derby's. It's matches like this you.

1929
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Speaker 24: Live for absolutely and look Newcastle have been fantastic this season.

1930
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Speaker 24: They've got a young squad and they've been they found

1931
01:44:45,067 --> 01:44:47,307
Speaker 24: ways to win even when you know the it's been

1932
01:44:47,347 --> 01:44:48,267
Speaker 24: stacked up against them.

1933
01:44:48,307 --> 01:44:49,627
Speaker 21: So we're gonna.

1934
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Speaker 24: Go over there tonight, We're gonna we're gonna try and

1935
01:44:52,747 --> 01:44:54,907
Speaker 24: take the full three points and then we'll only be

1936
01:44:54,947 --> 01:44:57,547
Speaker 24: one point off them running into the point the end

1937
01:44:57,547 --> 01:45:01,067
Speaker 24: of the season. You know, I think if we can,

1938
01:45:01,107 --> 01:45:04,427
Speaker 24: if we can win this evening, we're in a good

1939
01:45:04,467 --> 01:45:06,627
Speaker 24: position to go all the way. I think, you know,

1940
01:45:06,707 --> 01:45:09,067
Speaker 24: like kind of the boys know how important this game

1941
01:45:09,147 --> 01:45:09,627
Speaker 24: is going to be.

1942
01:45:10,867 --> 01:45:13,427
Speaker 3: You don't put the cart before the horse, though, Nick.

1943
01:45:13,467 --> 01:45:16,387
Speaker 3: That happened to us fans last year when didn't quite

1944
01:45:16,387 --> 01:45:18,667
Speaker 3: get the job done. You've got to be very careful.

1945
01:45:18,667 --> 01:45:21,107
Speaker 3: I'm sure Steve Carker wouldn't like you talking like this.

1946
01:45:21,347 --> 01:45:21,547
Speaker 4: Right.

1947
01:45:22,147 --> 01:45:23,787
Speaker 21: Well, I'm talking about the plate. Right.

1948
01:45:23,827 --> 01:45:28,427
Speaker 24: So you've got the Premiership, which we've got six games left,

1949
01:45:28,667 --> 01:45:31,507
Speaker 24: like we'd love to if we'd run against Perth, we'd

1950
01:45:31,507 --> 01:45:34,427
Speaker 24: be going over there hunting out the wind, hunting out

1951
01:45:34,427 --> 01:45:37,947
Speaker 24: the winter tonight and looking to kind of secure the

1952
01:45:37,947 --> 01:45:42,627
Speaker 24: top spot. We were draw last weekend against against Perth

1953
01:45:42,667 --> 01:45:46,507
Speaker 24: means tonight we have to take all three I'm a

1954
01:45:47,147 --> 01:45:50,747
Speaker 24: forever optimist, so so you know, sort of Steve probably

1955
01:45:50,787 --> 01:45:53,747
Speaker 24: wouldn't appreciate me saying this, but I think we can

1956
01:45:54,187 --> 01:45:56,627
Speaker 24: do it tonight, and then we're only one point off.

1957
01:45:56,667 --> 01:45:59,707
Speaker 24: And given that they're a young team, they've been fantastic

1958
01:45:59,827 --> 01:46:02,187
Speaker 24: in the up until now, I think that they might

1959
01:46:02,307 --> 01:46:04,507
Speaker 24: start feeling the pressure and I might start looking over

1960
01:46:04,507 --> 01:46:06,627
Speaker 24: their shoulder and hopefully we'll be right there here to

1961
01:46:07,387 --> 01:46:08,907
Speaker 24: pounce when it's the right time.

1962
01:46:09,227 --> 01:46:11,507
Speaker 3: What have you made if you guys this season, we

1963
01:46:11,627 --> 01:46:14,667
Speaker 3: love that word mercurial up and down all over the shop,

1964
01:46:14,707 --> 01:46:16,907
Speaker 3: and that's been the nature of the team. You're seeing

1965
01:46:16,947 --> 01:46:18,427
Speaker 3: signs that's going to start settling.

1966
01:46:20,787 --> 01:46:22,627
Speaker 21: I hear you, and I know what you're saying. And

1967
01:46:23,187 --> 01:46:25,307
Speaker 21: you're only as good as you as your last game.

1968
01:46:25,347 --> 01:46:28,467
Speaker 24: But I think we definitely had a tricky January, no

1969
01:46:28,507 --> 01:46:31,427
Speaker 24: doubt about that. We dropped points where we really didn't

1970
01:46:31,667 --> 01:46:34,427
Speaker 24: think we would and we really didn't want to. We

1971
01:46:34,507 --> 01:46:37,667
Speaker 24: came good in February and we've played some pretty good football,

1972
01:46:37,667 --> 01:46:39,227
Speaker 24: Like let's not forget we went down to one on

1973
01:46:39,267 --> 01:46:42,107
Speaker 24: one to five mil not so long ago. We've been

1974
01:46:42,187 --> 01:46:44,187
Speaker 24: sitting at home and then went away and drew with

1975
01:46:44,267 --> 01:46:46,307
Speaker 24: him over and Sidney, which is always.

1976
01:46:45,387 --> 01:46:47,227
Speaker 21: A pretty hard task.

1977
01:46:47,907 --> 01:46:49,907
Speaker 24: And it was only it was only really last weekend

1978
01:46:49,947 --> 01:46:51,587
Speaker 24: where I was a little bit frustrated. I felt a

1979
01:46:51,587 --> 01:46:55,107
Speaker 24: little bit of complatency. Complacency had snuck in. Overall, we're

1980
01:46:55,107 --> 01:46:57,947
Speaker 24: pretty happy with where we are. Remember where we're second

1981
01:46:57,987 --> 01:47:01,187
Speaker 24: on the ladder. We win tonight, we go one point

1982
01:47:01,227 --> 01:47:04,467
Speaker 24: off the top. It's not bad for a team that's

1983
01:47:04,507 --> 01:47:07,507
Speaker 24: only been around for what's come out to towards the

1984
01:47:07,587 --> 01:47:11,147
Speaker 24: end of its second season. But yeah, I hear you,

1985
01:47:11,227 --> 01:47:14,107
Speaker 24: like there has been like last season was an absolute dream.

1986
01:47:14,547 --> 01:47:17,467
Speaker 24: It went so well during the regular season, and then

1987
01:47:17,467 --> 01:47:19,707
Speaker 24: we got to that finals bit, and you know it'd

1988
01:47:19,707 --> 01:47:22,187
Speaker 24: be it'll be interesting this this finals.

1989
01:47:22,187 --> 01:47:23,507
Speaker 21: I hope to see us there.

1990
01:47:23,827 --> 01:47:26,307
Speaker 24: I think from the position that we're in there, we're

1991
01:47:26,307 --> 01:47:28,867
Speaker 24: in quite right now. We should be there, and I

1992
01:47:28,867 --> 01:47:30,627
Speaker 24: would like to think that we can, now that we've

1993
01:47:30,627 --> 01:47:33,507
Speaker 24: had that experience of finals football and know what it

1994
01:47:33,587 --> 01:47:35,227
Speaker 24: takes to go a bit further.

1995
01:47:35,547 --> 01:47:37,387
Speaker 21: I'm hoping we'll get into our first ground final.

1996
01:47:37,467 --> 01:47:37,667
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1997
01:47:37,707 --> 01:47:39,827
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm being a little cruel because you're right, your

1998
01:47:39,867 --> 01:47:41,747
Speaker 3: last handful of games and I'm pretty good. I don't

1999
01:47:41,787 --> 01:47:44,427
Speaker 3: think you've actually lost in probably five or six games.

2000
01:47:44,467 --> 01:47:46,667
Speaker 3: Have you Newcastle?

2001
01:47:48,307 --> 01:47:49,227
Speaker 2: You said they're.

2002
01:47:49,067 --> 01:47:52,147
Speaker 3: Young and they've got that energy and it might dissipate,

2003
01:47:52,267 --> 01:47:54,867
Speaker 3: but the run there on at the moment from a

2004
01:47:54,987 --> 01:47:57,707
Speaker 3: from a chief executives point of view, pretend you're the coach.

2005
01:47:58,027 --> 01:48:00,187
Speaker 3: How do you actually slow these guys down? What do

2006
01:48:00,187 --> 01:48:01,747
Speaker 3: you actually have to do? How do you stick a

2007
01:48:01,827 --> 01:48:03,107
Speaker 3: stick in their spokes?

2008
01:48:03,707 --> 01:48:07,467
Speaker 24: Well, I mean pretending I'm their coach. He's done a

2009
01:48:07,467 --> 01:48:10,067
Speaker 24: fantastic job. Again he was, he was pretty new to it.

2010
01:48:10,627 --> 01:48:12,107
Speaker 24: And then he's got a bunch of young players and

2011
01:48:12,147 --> 01:48:13,587
Speaker 24: there's got some good season.

2012
01:48:15,107 --> 01:48:15,507
Speaker 21: Players in.

2013
01:48:15,507 --> 01:48:18,147
Speaker 24: They're like rows to that bird has been around for

2014
01:48:18,187 --> 01:48:20,707
Speaker 24: a couple of seasons. They're good players. But he's got

2015
01:48:20,707 --> 01:48:22,467
Speaker 24: them that He's got them playing on a on a

2016
01:48:22,547 --> 01:48:24,747
Speaker 24: on a piece of stream. It is really impressive to

2017
01:48:24,787 --> 01:48:27,827
Speaker 24: see everyone's been kind of trying to second guess when

2018
01:48:27,827 --> 01:48:29,907
Speaker 24: they're going to trip up, and they haven't so far.

2019
01:48:29,987 --> 01:48:32,787
Speaker 24: So that's that's really impressive for Steve. I think it's

2020
01:48:32,827 --> 01:48:35,507
Speaker 24: a it's a case of us us doing what we

2021
01:48:35,587 --> 01:48:38,547
Speaker 24: do well, you know, the high press we've got. I

2022
01:48:38,547 --> 01:48:40,907
Speaker 24: think Gashirma has come back into some really good form

2023
01:48:41,627 --> 01:48:44,987
Speaker 24: him so he's seen. Cozy has been been pretty ruthless

2024
01:48:44,987 --> 01:48:46,707
Speaker 24: in the last couple of games as well. He's been

2025
01:48:47,187 --> 01:48:51,267
Speaker 24: exceptional since he actually he had five yellows missed that

2026
01:48:51,467 --> 01:48:55,147
Speaker 24: derby match, was benched for a game and and the

2027
01:48:55,227 --> 01:48:56,987
Speaker 24: suit he was quite lucky he got to come on

2028
01:48:57,067 --> 01:48:59,587
Speaker 24: quite early in that game, has benched on and he's

2029
01:48:59,667 --> 01:49:01,987
Speaker 24: just been really hungry since. So I think we've got

2030
01:49:01,987 --> 01:49:04,347
Speaker 24: the firepower up top to do it. And then I

2031
01:49:04,347 --> 01:49:06,947
Speaker 24: think if we if we stay focused and and kind

2032
01:49:06,947 --> 01:49:09,827
Speaker 24: of you know, sort of really ties at the back,

2033
01:49:10,787 --> 01:49:13,747
Speaker 24: you know, as I said before, the optimist and I'm

2034
01:49:13,787 --> 01:49:15,067
Speaker 24: hoping for the full three points.

2035
01:49:15,547 --> 01:49:19,307
Speaker 3: CEO of Auckland FC, Nicka Becka, joins us and it

2036
01:49:19,467 --> 01:49:24,507
Speaker 3: really interesting concept last week where an UMBD CEO is

2037
01:49:24,547 --> 01:49:26,627
Speaker 3: all climbed together and said, look, let's make this a

2038
01:49:26,627 --> 01:49:30,347
Speaker 3: group effort over the weekend. Let's train at Auckland fans

2039
01:49:30,507 --> 01:49:33,627
Speaker 3: up and moving and looking at all the games. When

2040
01:49:33,667 --> 01:49:36,387
Speaker 3: you look back on that promotion, did it work well?

2041
01:49:36,427 --> 01:49:37,707
Speaker 3: That it hit its marks?

2042
01:49:38,947 --> 01:49:40,307
Speaker 21: I think it was a massive success.

2043
01:49:40,627 --> 01:49:44,067
Speaker 24: It's we met with the council yesterday and asked them

2044
01:49:44,067 --> 01:49:48,267
Speaker 24: about what the wider economic impact was and so they're

2045
01:49:48,267 --> 01:49:50,267
Speaker 24: going to pull together those numbers for us as well.

2046
01:49:50,307 --> 01:49:53,387
Speaker 24: But if you look at how when you know, Warrior's

2047
01:49:53,427 --> 01:49:56,427
Speaker 24: first home match sold out at Mount Smart on the

2048
01:49:56,427 --> 01:50:00,187
Speaker 24: Friday night, we had an amazing racing day On the Saturday,

2049
01:50:00,227 --> 01:50:03,867
Speaker 24: the Blues got a great win against Crusaders. On Sunday

2050
01:50:03,947 --> 01:50:07,227
Speaker 24: night we managed to draw, wanted to win, but got

2051
01:50:07,267 --> 01:50:10,187
Speaker 24: to draw against Perth. There was also let's not forget

2052
01:50:10,547 --> 01:50:13,747
Speaker 24: Round the Bays took place Sunday morning. So it was

2053
01:50:13,827 --> 01:50:17,467
Speaker 24: a huge weekend of kind of sport and major events

2054
01:50:18,227 --> 01:50:21,307
Speaker 24: in Auckland. I think it showed it was a real success.

2055
01:50:21,707 --> 01:50:23,907
Speaker 24: Everybody there's a real interest in it. I heard all

2056
01:50:23,947 --> 01:50:28,667
Speaker 24: sorts of stories about, you know, groups of mates who

2057
01:50:28,667 --> 01:50:31,307
Speaker 24: went to all four events and kind of when they

2058
01:50:31,307 --> 01:50:34,307
Speaker 24: started getting let's just say involved on it on the

2059
01:50:34,387 --> 01:50:38,467
Speaker 24: Saturday through to how they were definitely wearing sort of

2060
01:50:38,907 --> 01:50:41,307
Speaker 24: sunglasses and studying in this is of you know, like

2061
01:50:41,427 --> 01:50:45,427
Speaker 24: kind of recovery mode for our match. But I think

2062
01:50:45,467 --> 01:50:47,987
Speaker 24: people loved it and so we've already started talking to

2063
01:50:47,987 --> 01:50:50,867
Speaker 24: the league about doing the same again next year. Likewise,

2064
01:50:51,467 --> 01:50:53,507
Speaker 24: I was with Cam at the Warriors, you say he's

2065
01:50:53,507 --> 01:50:55,787
Speaker 24: going to reach out to n r L and do

2066
01:50:55,827 --> 01:50:57,747
Speaker 24: it again. And I'm sure Carl will be doing exactly

2067
01:50:57,747 --> 01:51:00,307
Speaker 24: the same thing with Super Rugby. So the thing about

2068
01:51:00,347 --> 01:51:03,187
Speaker 24: weekends like this is you need to make them a tradition.

2069
01:51:03,267 --> 01:51:05,507
Speaker 24: You need to have consistency on them, and we want

2070
01:51:05,507 --> 01:51:06,187
Speaker 24: to do it every year.

2071
01:51:07,027 --> 01:51:09,907
Speaker 3: When the city railling starts going, it might work even better.

2072
01:51:09,947 --> 01:51:13,027
Speaker 3: We'll see public transport. That is another story. Let's not

2073
01:51:13,147 --> 01:51:15,787
Speaker 3: do it as far as is sold out in full houses.

2074
01:51:15,827 --> 01:51:18,067
Speaker 3: You guys had a crazy year. You're definitely the new

2075
01:51:18,147 --> 01:51:21,667
Speaker 3: kids on the block are very popularly winning. Everybody want

2076
01:51:21,747 --> 01:51:25,387
Speaker 3: to be engaged. Is that starting to flatten out to

2077
01:51:25,547 --> 01:51:27,787
Speaker 3: level out now? And what are you doing to pick

2078
01:51:27,867 --> 01:51:30,667
Speaker 3: that back up again? To become one of it must

2079
01:51:30,667 --> 01:51:31,907
Speaker 3: go to fixtures.

2080
01:51:32,427 --> 01:51:35,627
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think it's there's always going to be a

2081
01:51:35,707 --> 01:51:38,827
Speaker 24: natural pullback in the year two after year we have

2082
01:51:38,907 --> 01:51:42,227
Speaker 24: that sort of high level of interest we had I

2083
01:51:42,267 --> 01:51:45,267
Speaker 24: think it was about five or six full full houses

2084
01:51:46,027 --> 01:51:49,027
Speaker 24: last season. I think still think we'll finish really strong

2085
01:51:49,267 --> 01:51:51,467
Speaker 24: and have and have really good crowds. We've had good

2086
01:51:51,467 --> 01:51:54,267
Speaker 24: crowds this season, they've been slightly down on last. I

2087
01:51:54,307 --> 01:51:57,787
Speaker 24: think that the consistency is key. I think we've had

2088
01:51:57,827 --> 01:51:59,427
Speaker 24: a bit of a funny one with our draw. The

2089
01:51:59,467 --> 01:52:02,267
Speaker 24: season's been blocks of games, a bit of a gap

2090
01:52:02,427 --> 01:52:05,307
Speaker 24: played on public holiday weekends. But you know, we can

2091
01:52:05,387 --> 01:52:08,587
Speaker 24: only control what's it and our sort of you know,

2092
01:52:08,707 --> 01:52:11,507
Speaker 24: we're going to control the controllables, right, So we work

2093
01:52:11,667 --> 01:52:13,867
Speaker 24: very closely with everything that we do in the community.

2094
01:52:13,947 --> 01:52:16,427
Speaker 24: So it's getting scroups is from schools, getting groups from

2095
01:52:16,547 --> 01:52:18,547
Speaker 24: local football clubs, getting them to come along and get

2096
01:52:18,547 --> 01:52:22,347
Speaker 24: them engaged in our mactually experience and kind of meeting

2097
01:52:22,347 --> 01:52:25,387
Speaker 24: the players after the game and coming along and experiencing

2098
01:52:25,427 --> 01:52:27,307
Speaker 24: our unique kind of environment.

2099
01:52:27,427 --> 01:52:29,707
Speaker 21: So you know, you look at what the port.

2100
01:52:29,547 --> 01:52:32,947
Speaker 24: Brings as a fan experience and it's phenomenal. It's a

2101
01:52:33,027 --> 01:52:35,107
Speaker 24: level of energy that you don't see in New Zealand sports.

2102
01:52:35,147 --> 01:52:38,387
Speaker 24: So I'm comfortable with where we are. I'd always like

2103
01:52:38,467 --> 01:52:41,107
Speaker 24: to be slightly more and a slow further ahead, and

2104
01:52:41,787 --> 01:52:45,467
Speaker 24: we will continue to push the big triggers though, Darcy.

2105
01:52:45,507 --> 01:52:46,227
Speaker 21: It's not to sit.

2106
01:52:46,107 --> 01:52:48,107
Speaker 24: Around on your hands and go, well, I've done everything

2107
01:52:48,147 --> 01:52:49,867
Speaker 24: I can do. Is actually think about how you can

2108
01:52:49,867 --> 01:52:52,427
Speaker 24: go further and what are the new initiatives and new

2109
01:52:52,467 --> 01:52:55,027
Speaker 24: ideas that you can put in place to engage with

2110
01:52:55,107 --> 01:52:57,587
Speaker 24: fans and engage with families to get them to the games.

2111
01:52:57,867 --> 01:53:00,547
Speaker 3: Well, that leads me perfectly the next question and the

2112
01:53:00,707 --> 01:53:03,027
Speaker 3: last question. You spend a lot of time with the

2113
01:53:03,147 --> 01:53:08,067
Speaker 3: various CEOs and organizing their particular kular promotion, a lot

2114
01:53:08,107 --> 01:53:11,747
Speaker 3: of ip amongst all four of you men. How helpful

2115
01:53:11,827 --> 01:53:14,187
Speaker 3: was that for you in that space as far as

2116
01:53:14,547 --> 01:53:17,747
Speaker 3: packing the minds in the brains of those other CEO

2117
01:53:17,947 --> 01:53:20,387
Speaker 3: to try and make your product even better? Was that

2118
01:53:20,867 --> 01:53:23,907
Speaker 3: a free share of information? Do you think that was worthwhile?

2119
01:53:24,707 --> 01:53:24,987
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2120
01:53:25,107 --> 01:53:27,427
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah yeah. And I've said this before. I think

2121
01:53:27,547 --> 01:53:27,987
Speaker 21: I think the.

2122
01:53:27,987 --> 01:53:31,387
Speaker 24: Superpower for New Zealand is a nation, but definitely like

2123
01:53:31,507 --> 01:53:34,627
Speaker 24: kind of us and working and the supporting world.

2124
01:53:34,507 --> 01:53:36,187
Speaker 21: Is that we do know each other really well.

2125
01:53:36,347 --> 01:53:39,227
Speaker 24: We do actually get on and we're open enough to

2126
01:53:39,267 --> 01:53:41,627
Speaker 24: sit down in a room and share ideas. I mean,

2127
01:53:42,027 --> 01:53:44,867
Speaker 24: it's it's you know, like Cam and I work really

2128
01:53:44,867 --> 01:53:46,747
Speaker 24: close together. Bos we play in the same stadium and

2129
01:53:46,787 --> 01:53:47,747
Speaker 24: we want to have the same thing.

2130
01:53:47,787 --> 01:53:48,347
Speaker 21: We want to.

2131
01:53:48,307 --> 01:53:53,747
Speaker 24: Create an amazing fan experience and do something which is

2132
01:53:53,827 --> 01:53:55,787
Speaker 24: kind of pretty special in New Zealand sport.

2133
01:53:55,867 --> 01:53:58,707
Speaker 21: And I went to the Warriors for this game last Friday.

2134
01:53:59,147 --> 01:54:00,907
Speaker 24: They know their audience so well and they do such

2135
01:54:00,907 --> 01:54:02,747
Speaker 24: a fantastic job, and I like to think that we

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Speaker 24: can you know, get up to their level over the

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Speaker 24: next coming years as well, Like you know sort of,

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Speaker 24: I think together with with Cam we can we can

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Speaker 24: make go Media a really fantastic stadium for the fans. Carl, likewise,

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Speaker 24: he's got a great pedigree in what he's did, what

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Speaker 24: he did at tennis. I'm sure he's going to bring

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Speaker 24: analyst to sal GP. He's going to bring a lot

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Speaker 24: that energy and those ideas into the Blues, and I

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Speaker 24: think it's a perfect.

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Speaker 21: Time for him in that role.

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Speaker 24: You know that Eden parks a different beast to surmount smart,

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Speaker 24: so you play with it a little bit differently.

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Speaker 21: But I think Carl will come in with some great ideas.

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Speaker 24: And I'm always there if he calls me up and

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Speaker 24: answer a question. I always trying him the best answer

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Speaker 24: I can, because.

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Speaker 21: I think he's a top bloke and I'm sure it's

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Speaker 21: going to do a fantastic job.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 3: I remember we used to stink up the joint back

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Speaker 3: and radio sport in the old days. Young fellowes to

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Speaker 3: come in and cause all sorts of a ruckus. My my,

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Speaker 3: he's moved on and that, And I tell you what

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Speaker 3: all four of you blakes are so approachable and it's

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Speaker 3: really good to see you coming together for the benefit

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Speaker 3: of the fans in Auckland City. God knows we needed.

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Speaker 3: Nick Becker, thanks very much for your time, mate. How

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Speaker 3: are you the best of luck or skill talent iplication?

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Speaker 3: Tonight we'll catch up again seen, I'm sure. Thanks thank

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Speaker 3: you Nick Becker. He's the CEO of Auckland FC. They

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Speaker 3: faced the Jets at seven o'clock tonight to get a

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Speaker 3: monks and Auckland FC also take on MacArthur FC next Saturday.

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Speaker 3: It's the twenty first of March, is of course at

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Speaker 3: go Media Stadium. If you're going to be in Auckland

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Speaker 3: and you'd like to be there, I've got a six

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Speaker 3: ticket family pass up for grabs. Just text AFC and

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Speaker 3: your name to nine to nine to two and you're

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Speaker 3: in the draw. Up next on Weekend Sport, we're doing

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Speaker 3: something a wee bit different the Clay Target Shooting Championships

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Speaker 3: in the Canterbury Clay Target Grounds. Coming up over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the youngest ever, the longest,

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Speaker 3: the youngest ever world champion James Sullivan. Up next here

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Speaker 3: on news Dog ZB at s eighteen minutes to three.

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Speaker 1: From Grassroots to the grand Stand Weekend Sports with Dancy

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Speaker 1: Wadergrave and GJ.

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Speaker 2: Gardner Holmes, New.

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Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be Weekend Sport. It's fourteen minutes to three, right,

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Speaker 3: let's talk something very different. We're talking clay target shooting.

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Speaker 3: Joined now by James Sullivan, who's up to his neck

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Speaker 3: in the competition. It is the ict SF twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: six Down the Line World Championships. James Sullivan, I'm told

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Speaker 3: you the youngest World champion ever. How young's young? And welcome?

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Speaker 10: Well, I was seventeen when I picked up the title

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Speaker 10: in England in twenty twenty four, which yeah it was.

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Speaker 10: It was very young. Usually it's won by forty plus

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Speaker 10: year olds, so that was amazing. Then I'm nineteen now

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Speaker 10: and I've just completed the New Zealand down Line Nationals

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Speaker 10: and starting the World Championships tomorrow hopefully hopefully defending the

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Speaker 10: title again.

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Speaker 3: How big is this as far as participants?

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Speaker 10: So the Nationals yesterday there was about four hundred and

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Speaker 10: seventy participants and expecting tomorrow be about the same for

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Speaker 10: the Worlds.

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Speaker 3: As far as getting into this, I remember once years

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Speaker 3: ago I went out into a deserted wharf in a

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Speaker 3: place called Laverick's Bay out of the Bank's Peninsula, armed

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Speaker 3: to the teeth with a whole of the claybirds, and

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Speaker 3: shot all afternoon. It was great fun until I raised

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Speaker 3: my shoulder was destroyed. It's as far as I went,

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Speaker 3: how did you get into this and what actually drove

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Speaker 3: you to become a shooter?

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Speaker 10: Well, we knew someone who was a clay target shooter

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Speaker 10: and they invited us to their property where they had

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Speaker 10: their own down the line set up. So I thought, yea,

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Speaker 10: I have a gal. I was about ten at the time,

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Speaker 10: just about to turn eleven. I had it go and

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Speaker 10: I thought, wow, that was really fad. I'd been trying

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Speaker 10: to find a sport for myself for a long time

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Speaker 10: and it finally clicked into clay target shooting. Went out,

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Speaker 10: did all the right steps, joined the local club, found

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Speaker 10: the right people, found coach, found gun, and just carried

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Speaker 10: on from there.

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Speaker 3: Don't say found a gun. It sounds like you were

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Speaker 3: just digging around the neighborhood and you picked onne up.

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Speaker 3: Are you Are you from west Auckland.

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Speaker 10: No, No, from tipooky.

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Speaker 17: What is your.

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Speaker 3: Weapon of choice? Is it a standard gun that you

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Speaker 3: have to operate? Can you choose whatever you want?

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Speaker 10: Yes, you can. It has to be a twelve gage shotgun,

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Speaker 10: either an under and over or semi automatic. If it

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Speaker 10: is a simil automatic, it has to be pinned down

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Speaker 10: to only two shots allowed in it. The common guns

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Speaker 10: here are the under and over because you're only allowed

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Speaker 10: two shots, and they are the most accurate and easy

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Speaker 10: to use and just the best all around done for

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Speaker 10: clay target shooting.

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Speaker 3: So what's the trick? If you could summarize it in

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Speaker 3: a couple of sentences, how do you become a world champion?

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Speaker 3: Don't just say hit the target?

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Speaker 10: Oh, I guess having a strong mindset and the want

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Speaker 10: to win, and the ability to focus your mind as

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Speaker 10: hard as you can on one goal. And yeah, just

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Speaker 10: having the right the right backing, the right mindset and

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Speaker 10: I want to win.

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Speaker 3: This is something that is I don't say it's simple,

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Speaker 3: but easy enough to pick up. It's not complex, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It's see target, shoot target exactly.

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Speaker 10: That's how I like to perceive it. If you're over

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Speaker 10: complicating it, you gotta ruin it for yourself.

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Speaker 3: You tell us about the format and how it actually

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Speaker 3: operates up in the air, does it bounce along on

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Speaker 3: the ground, And there's all sorts of different styles, all techniques. Right.

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Speaker 10: So down the line track you stand fifteen meters away

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Speaker 10: from the box of where it's thrown. The target comes

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Speaker 10: out at around sixty k is an hour at the

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Speaker 10: height of probably five meters from the ground.

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Speaker 3: How many and what do you have to do so

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Speaker 3: that you cut out just then? So when it comes

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Speaker 3: to the competition itself, you get x amount of shots

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Speaker 3: at X amount of targets and you've got the best

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Speaker 3: of Just simplify it for us, will you, James.

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Speaker 10: So there's three hundred targets that will be thrown through

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Speaker 10: the worlds. You have two shots at the target. Your

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Speaker 10: first shot counts for three points, your second shot counts

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Speaker 10: as two points, and if you miss it, it's a zero.

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Speaker 10: So the overall goal is to get nine hundred points,

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Speaker 10: which is shooting every target with one shot.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever hit nine hundred?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 6: I have not.

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Speaker 10: It's actually quite the task.

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Speaker 3: What's the closest you've got?

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Speaker 10: I did it actually in New Zealand in twenty twenty

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Speaker 10: three at my local club. I shot five second barrels,

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Speaker 10: which means I shot an eight hundred and ninety five

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Speaker 10: out of the nine hundred.

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Speaker 3: That is impressive. I'm thinking nine hundred like a nine

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Speaker 3: dart finish and darts. I'm loving all of this. I

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Speaker 3: wishing you're the best of that you can still be

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Speaker 3: a teenage world champion. James at Sullivan, you get a Markston.

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much for your time. Thank you, and it

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Speaker 3: is I didn't know it's nine minutes away from three.

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Speaker 3: It's the magic of doing this program that things you'll

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Speaker 3: find out every day. Thanks very much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back to wrap next here on news Talk

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Speaker 3: z B.

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Speaker 1: The biggest names in sport are here. Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 1: Dancy Waldegrave Youth Talk zed B.

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Speaker 3: Back again tomorrow. I shall be Jason and Pine is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he's going to do, but I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting in There's a see from twelve midday through to

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Speaker 3: three o'clock plenty to look at. In the program, plain me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Formula one, so we have

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Speaker 3: a bit of focus on the Chinese Grand Prix and

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Speaker 3: that sprint race gets underway in about an hour. So

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Speaker 3: Aye McDonald our producer extraordinary and thanks very much for

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Speaker 3: all of your assistants. More point, patients today, I've got

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Speaker 3: to get out of here really fast because I've got

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Speaker 3: to get back to race cars.

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Speaker 25: Well, fair enough, Darcy, fair enough, So I'll let you.

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Speaker 25: I'll let you get out of here. Obviously, we were

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Speaker 25: talking guns just before, so we have to finish the

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Speaker 25: show with some guns n' roses. We've got to sweet

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Speaker 25: on line to wrap it up for you, dars, Can

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Speaker 25: I sing along with it? Turn your mic off and

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Speaker 25: I'll allow it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. Thanks for your help, hey, thanks to everybody out

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Speaker 3: there for listening, Thanks for your phone calls, thanks for

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Speaker 3: your text thanks to all of our guests. Most importantly,

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Speaker 3: it is thanks to you listening without your ears. There's

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Speaker 3: no point in us doing this. To be fair, I

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Speaker 3: would sit in a dark room with no one listening

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Speaker 3: for owls on end talking about sport. Can't help myself.

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Speaker 3: You have a great afternoon, Tim Beverage up next the weekend.

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