WEBVTT - Kiri Wills on how superior Australia's netball resource is 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.080 Inside Netbore getting you closer to the game you love 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:08.160 with Adean Wilson, Hannah Stanley and Jenny woods By news talks. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.760 That'd be good and welcome to Inside Netball as we 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.400 count down to the beginning of the A and Z Premiership. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:15.600 Just a dnn Anie on board today. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.080 Jen is otherwise engaged touring the Central North Island. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.360 Last spotted at that in her path. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.960 She loves to just find all these great places, didn't 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.720 she dang out of the way of cyclone ten probably 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.400 which we all had to endure over the easter period. Yes, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:32.720 now east here talking about that. I know you had 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:33.840 a little bit of mini break. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.240 You now have found a new sporting love. You have 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.920 joined the love of golf. Is there any club strow 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:42.960 on this weekend? I am now middle aged. I have 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.640 joined the middle aged team of golfers. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.240 Not quite as good as you ade not getting as many, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.920 not a very high standard. But yes, I shot my first, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:53.880 my best ever front nine the other day at remu 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.640 Ere fifty which I was quite everywhere. But yeah, It's 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.120 taken me a whole year to get into it, and 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.520 I'm just starting to see why people can get the bug. Yeah, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.840 and it helps that they have all these women. She 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.959 love golf events that you do a chip and sip 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:09.880 and I think it's that sip of wine at the 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.520 end that are chair on top. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.360 So yeah, other people get into golf. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.360 It's so good and it doesn't require quite as much fitness. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.680 Look the A and Z Premiership. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.760 It's only three weekends away, with the first game being 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.920 played on Saturday, the tenth of May between the Pulse 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.400 and Magic. Over the next two episodes, we're going to 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.360 pre review each of the six A and Z teams, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.360 starting today with the Mystic Stars and Magic. But before 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.000 we break down play a movement and which teams are 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.920 looking sharp, we're going to jump across the Tasmani yet 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.800 again and chat with former Stars coach Kitty Wills and 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.800 get her take on her new role as head coach 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.760 of the Queensland Farbirds. It was a brave decision by Kitty, 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.080 with the far Birds arguably in disarray after a couple 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.320 of tough seasons and cycling through a number of coaches, 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.880 but Kitty has made the perfect start. Two games, two 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.560 wins and silencing the doubters. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.919 Inside Nipple, you had a kidd, he is so great 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.760 you could join us. How are you? 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.000 I'm great, ladies, great too. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.280 I know that people can't see us, but I can 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.639 see you too, and it's awesome to see you both 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.240 both looking fab. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.280 As are you looking fabulous on our zoom chat Look? 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.800 How is the families? How have you sailed into Queensland life? 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.400 Two kids at school? Has it been a big adjustment? 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.480 Yeah, it was massive, probably more so for the kids 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.240 than me. I think you know, I'm living by myself 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.480 in an apartment, which is quite novel for the first time, 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.240 and however many years I think John and I have 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.160 been together almost twenty five years, so it's been massive 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.680 for John and I, but we're so busy that it 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.959 doesn't really make too much of a difference to him 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.400 and I. But the other kids probably struggled a little 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.799 bit when they got into boarding school. My little mate 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.680 Charlie was messaging me every day telling me he wanted 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.440 to go home and go back to his mates at 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:11.360 some kids, which was yeah, very very stressful on the heart, 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.440 I know, and there are a lot of things that 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.560 he was asking me questions about that I just didn't 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.760 know the answers, and so I felt quite helpless. But 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.880 after a week they settled in Grace. Grace was probably 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:29.160 a little bit smoother, but still struggled. So it's it's 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:30.959 full on but great. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.160 They love it. They love boarding now. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.960 They still missed their mates in New Zealand and at 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.000 their old schools, but they're settling in. They've made heats 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.960 and mates, and I think boarding is really important for that. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.560 I think if we're to come over here and they 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.360 were just at school as day kids, that would have. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:50.200 Been even harder. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.040 But boarding they've got sort of ready made family, ready 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.720 made friends, and we're up and running. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.320 Well. That's good to hear because I actually coached Gracie 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.800 at Saint cath so I'm glad that she's settled in nicely. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.640 Hey cas Well, you've settled in rather well. Two wins 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.640 from two with the Firebirds, and you compare that to 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.600 your season last year with the Stars, where you only 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:15.800 won two games across the whole year. The Firebirds won four. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.760 You're halfway there two rounds in. I mean, it's a 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:20.880 pretty good start for you. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:22.480 Yeah, it is. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.799 It was good to get confirmation of how we were feeling. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:31.520 So obviously the Firebirds had a lot of work to 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.880 do coming out of twenty twenty four. There's been a 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.720 lot of disruption at the club. We wanted to settle in, 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.760 sort of put a stake in the ground about who 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.279 we are. So all of that work happened October and 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.880 Ovimba last year, and then from there it's been feeling 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.400 really good. But you always, every team in pre season 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.880 that I've been in charge with, pre season feels great. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.200 Everything's going really well, you know. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.400 And so then we went Team Girls Cup and had 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.680 a bit of a wake up call. I must put 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:04.839 some context around that. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:05.120 Though. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.159 We'd sat through Cyclone Alfred, who yes, by the time 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.240 he hit us wasn't actually a cyclone anymore, just a 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.960 tropical storm. 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.000 But we're not trained for eight days. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.719 We've been sort of locked in our houses in that time, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.120 and we started really slow and happened to play the 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.520 Fever who I keep telling people they beat us seventeen 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:31.479 to six in the first quarter. So I questioned. I 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.279 came out of that game really questioning, do I actually know? 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.800 Am I actually should I be here? Like I know 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:39.520 what I'm doing. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.080 I had all of that going on, But then from 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.880 there the team really responded and we steadily grew what 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.000 I'm really loving about this team is when they say something, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.960 they actually go out there and do it. So off 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.520 the back of that Fever Team Girls Cup game, I said, look, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.599 we're making basic eras, stepping how bulls, you know, real 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.120 nigga little things that you know, little coach killers that 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.000 we have to get rid of in our game. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.919 It's not good enough. And they went out there and 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.920 they reduced the ERA right by fifty percent. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.160 So from that wake up Caull, we were feeling good 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.680 and so to have that sort of confirmation through two 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.760 more wins in competition has been really good for us. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.919 You've obviously now dealt with Australian athletes and New Zealand athletes, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.680 and you're talking there about adjusting to changes or what 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.560 needs to be made. How do you compare the two athletes. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.000 Is there obvious difference between a New Zealand athlete and 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.839 an Australian athlete. You've obviously talked about resources as well, So 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.200 what's been obvious to you early? 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.599 I think it's actually the similar similarities A dean like 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:50.400 you know, I clearly have been chosen for this role 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.520 because of my background in terms of bringing teams together. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.839 And one of the questions that I was asked in 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:00.800 my interview was did I think that the culture and 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:06.200 the values that the Australian athletes would aspire to be like, 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.920 would they be any different to what New Zealand athletes 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.480 aspire to be? 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:13.880 How would that look different? 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.840 And I truly believe that anyone who's involved in team sport, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.559 we're here because we want to belong to something bigger 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.080 than ourselves, and that certainly has played out with this team. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.160 It's not been that much different at all. And then 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.880 I thought, well, maybe the way that they express those values, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:37.000 or the values that they prioritize, maybe that looks a 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:41.840 little bit different, but again, very very similar to the 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.640 stuff that I've done with the Stars. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.720 It was the same sort of message in coming out. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.400 I think one of the big things here though, is 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:54.920 that Queenslander grit and relentlessness and mongrel, you know, like 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.600 they really embrace that here. And I actually said to them, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.560 you know, coming from New Zealand and being a bit 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.880 of a League fan, that's what we know Queensland is for. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.160 And you know the Firebirds when they were back in 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.280 their heyday, you just knew that they would never go away, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.720 that they would fight it out right to the last minute, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.640 and they truly embraced that as athletes and every training, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.520 every session, that's what they present and they front up 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.160 and they roll up. And for the first time yesterday 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.440 I actually questioned them because they were naked. We'd smashed 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.360 them a bit, and I was like, right, is this 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.560 who we are? Are we mongrel enough here? And they 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.040 were like, no, no, okay, the way we went. 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.720 Again, that's awesome. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.560 So, I mean, you talk about culture, cas and you 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.199 often talk about the fact that that is a real 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:44.760 strength of yours as a coach. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.480 As being a culture. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.200 Coach, I mean, was there a lot in that space 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.760 that you had to work on when you got over there, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.720 given the past challenges of the club. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.640 I think for me it's. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.680 I thought, I thought that I would have to do 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.839 a lot more than I ended up doing, if that 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.560 makes sense, because we all listen to the media and 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.880 we all hear about the challenges and we and we 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.319 you know, like I did my homework prior to one applying, 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.079 two interviewing, and then three accepting. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:21.560 I didn't want to come into. 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.200 A space where I felt like I'd be, you know, 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:26.880 pushing the proverbial uphill. 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:28.640 I wanted to come to a. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:33.560 Place where if they were really going to back me, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.920 then then I would come. And so before I accepted 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.760 the job, I was actually flown over here to check 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.040 the place out, meet with the CEO, meet with my 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:48.040 new boss, meet with my staff, and I came away 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.760 feeling like this is actually not the mountain I thought 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.360 it was going to be to climb. We just need 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.240 to tidy things up. And you know, culture is led 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.559 by your head coach, So as long as I did 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.600 my job well, I felt like I had the support 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.680 and I definitely had the support of the players to 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:11.640 come in and help them. Yeah, basically, that's what it was. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.320 And I didn't do anything different from the process that 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.800 I would normally go through with a team. We did 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.920 exactly the same thing. The only thing I did do 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.240 that was different was that I wanted to remind them 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.480 how great this club was. And part of their homework 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.840 before they came into their first culture session was to 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.360 watch those Grand Finals that the by Birds won and 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.679 the am Z Championships with your Laura Guitts's Cleire mcmanimon's 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.440 those players and tell me what you see, Tell me 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.120 what you see, what you hear, what you feel when 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.480 you watch those games, and that was an amazing process 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:47.040 to go through. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.080 We've seen the reports about how excited you were about 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.400 the resources and things in Australia compared to New Zealand. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.560 And you know, we're speaking with Grace only a couple 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.320 of weeks ago and she said, it's quite different. You 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.679 come in it a time in the morning, you're all 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.640 together into whatever time in the afternoon. You can do everything, 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.760 your wait, whatever, it is, all in one space. Is 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.280 it the same for you? Is that a difference from 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:11.760 what you had here in New Zealand? 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.000 Yes, I think both Grace and I are really fortunate 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:22.560 that we are in clubs that belong to or are. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.840 With a state body. So we're with Netble, Queensland. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.240 So when I walk through the doors in the morning, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.640 I walk into an office that has around thirty staff 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:39.040 working in the state, you know, working in community marketing events. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.920 We've got a huge team in swifts are exactly the same. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.760 And if you think about lightning, pent and giants, they're 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.280 slightly different. They don't have as well, I know, the lightning. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.040 They don't sit in office with us. They're up at 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.080 the coast and they're set up slightly different, but here 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.240 you wouldn't believe it. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.640 I had vic Edward. She's not for Edward anymore. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.040 She came and she came and visited us, visited me 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.440 here and just showing her through, Like you walk through 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:09.040 our doors. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.440 You go down a corridor, there's. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.800 Netball Queensland paraphernalia purple all the way through it. There's 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.760 little stickers on the mirror saying you look good in purple. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:20.800 You go down. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:25.600 We've got a huge commercial sized gym that's purely ours, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.480 so we don't share that with anyone. Then you go 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.080 into the locker rooms and it's all decked out. The 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.240 players have their own locker with play a number of 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.720 the person who had it before them and before them, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.800 so someone might have, like I think Giz is about 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:44.280 sheer has got Laura Geittz's locker and she knows that, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.560 you know, Like it's just all those really cool things 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.360 that we just unfortunately don't have. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.760 It's just not the same set up in New Zealand. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.800 And so you're not. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.040 Doing you're not doing hot colds and rubbish bins. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.280 In other words, no, we're not. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.360 We've got these fancy pool things that you can push 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:02.880 on the wall. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:04.480 It's like air conditioning. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.559 You push the number in of how hot or cold 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.480 you want that ice bath, and then you go from 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:10.160 one to the other. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.280 How does how does how does your input? Mary Cholott 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.240 go jumping in those ice baths? 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.560 Or she's not up to her knees like she would 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:23.800 be in she's you know and in her in emode like. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.400 I haven't talked to them too much in depth about it, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.680 but I know that just the setup for all three 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:35.960 of us is a lot different to what we used to. Yeah, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.240 so she's up to her she's up to her waist 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:38.800 in those. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.080 Pools I imagine two point zero seven. I think she 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.760 stands Mary Cholick at that. Hey, because there's been a 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.840 lot of talk back here about you know, Grace Nowiki 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.160 and the eligibility rule for the Silver Ferns. I mean, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.000 as a coach, what's your what's your take on that? 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.920 Do you think you know she should have an exemption 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:57.520 to play for the Silver fans? 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.600 All tough question, any because I think you. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:06.840 Like tough questions as I feel like they It should 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.360 have been sorted before she came here, really ideally, because 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.600 I'm certain she's not the only player that has been 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.160 in you know, conversations with Australian clubs. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.720 She's she's the brave one who's made the move and gone. Actually, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.080 you know what, I'm prepared to stand down for a year. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.040 But if they exempt her this year for this cycle, 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.600 it possibly means that other players who chose to stay 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.520 because of the eligibility. The point actually that you know, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:40.600 like I just it's it's not as clear. I think 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:45.560 it's it's difficult also because there's no guarantee around twenty 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:50.840 twenty six, so it's it's a bit of a mine field. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:55.440 I think she's absolutely made the right choice for her career. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.320 It is a lot tougher here, you know, like week 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.880 she was up against Shamira Sterling. It's you know, that 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:08.440 kind of experience is you just can't be replicated currently 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.040 in the am Z Premiership. So for her own growth 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.960 and development, she's absolutely made the right choice. But you know, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.560 coming in halfway through and making an exemption now as 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.520 opposed to earlier when other people could have got on 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:27.080 board as well, I think that's pretty tough because you're 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.840 not operating not everyone's operating under the same rules. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.200 Yeah, although she was the brave one to win anyway. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.520 So yeah, I mean there's arguments either way, isn't there. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.800 But you've just tapped you raised it. Then twenty twenty 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.480 six in New Zealand. Goodness knows what's going to happen. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.720 None of us know what the competition's going to look like. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.400 What has been pleasing to hear as we heard Lisa 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.480 Alexander Sharnid to speak, I think it was last week 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.120 and and she said, actually, we're quite like a couple 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.720 of New Zealand things back over here. So you're starting 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.880 to hear what we are hearing over here is Ozzie Potentially. 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:02.960 They want they want us. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.120 Should should New Zealand be playing in it? And come on, 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.040 give me a number of teams? It should be there 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.000 as well. If you had you know, if we had 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.600 endless resources, the perfect scenario, what would it be trans Tasmin. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:21.280 I think I think if you if you had endless resources, 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.840 then you would you'd want to have two to four 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.880 teams in. I think that the reality of the resourcing 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.600 is that two would be I think the max that 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.080 you could you could get in over here, because it just. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.720 Increases the cost of travel. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.640 Travel itself these days has skyrocketed. Like to get a 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.480 team anywhere these days is so expensive you've got to 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:47.720 be able to pay the bills. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:49.400 I will say. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:53.960 That everyone I've talked to here, absolutely, everyone I've talked 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.880 to want New Zealand. Yes, in some way, shape or 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:02.800 form involved in this compition. There is a concern, there 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.320 is a genuine concern that if New Zealand is not 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.800 involved in this competition that we will fall behind that 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:14.159 the Silver Ferns. While with Nolane, with someone like Grace 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.560 and the team we are, the thinking is that we're 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.600 boxing above our weight because our competition doesn't. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:22.160 Really stack up. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:28.400 That's the feeling over here, That's what I'm hearing. And Australia, 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.000 you know, we see them as the enemy, but actually 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.720 they don't want to see that. They want to They 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.400 want New Zealand to continue to be competitive. They see 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:44.199 us as a traditional foe. They know how important the 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.920 Silver Ferns are from an international perspective in terms of 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.800 making sure that there are a lot of teams biting 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.360 it out for those top spots. So that's been the 0:17:55.400 --> 0:18:00.119 conversations that I've had here, and they're quite open about it. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.399 It would be it always comes down to money. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.840 Yeah, always does. We'd love to see it too. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.880 But because you've talked about what an amazing experience you've 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.080 had over there so far, the resources, is there anything 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.640 from home that you think we do better than Australians, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.560 anything you're missing from home? 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:23.240 I do think, I do think we should be really 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.160 proud of the product that we put out there at 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.760 that top level that we can turn around and win 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.200 one against Australia and one against England and those sorts 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.359 of things with the limited with the with now, what 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.199 I see as the disparity in terms of resourcing for 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.360 our franchise coaches. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:43.200 And their teams. 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:49.119 You know, what we can produce with limited resourcing does 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.280 make our system a lot more flexible. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.240 When I say our saying New Zealand. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:59.040 It shows the flexibility and thinking, our resourcefulness, our ability 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:03.320 to get around things, the commitment that people make to 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.000 doing the jobs that they're getting paid. You know, like 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:10.159 the assistant coaches in the Ains Premiership get paid absolutely nothing. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.919 Over here, I've got a full time assistant coach. 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:12.960 You know. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:17.600 So I just I just think the sacrifices that people 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.520 make and the commitment that they give to make sure 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.160 that we put out good product in New Zealand is outstanding. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.720 Yeah, oh well answered, well, we have loved watching you 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.920 over there, and it's awesome to see a key we 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.439 coach go over there and be successful so quickly. We 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.119 hope you're going to have a big one against the 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.400 Lightning on Saturday. 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:41.919 From three. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.000 But before you go, we've we've got this little segment 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.080 that we call Fast five. Grace absolutely noiled at last week. 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:50.640 We were thinking it was supposed to be fast five 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:58.399 as quick and she gave us detailed answers. But she 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.560 loves her food, obviously because she certainly had details. But anyway, 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.959 we've got five questions, just a bit of fun, mostly 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.200 targeted at athletes. 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.760 But you were an athlete still, I'm sure you've. 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.720 Got I have to dig deep into the archives. 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.359 I bet you still put the BIB on when they 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.040 need someone ext you're on defense. But right, first question, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.720 if you could compete or could have competed in any 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.680 other sport, what would it have been? 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:25.080 Per thing? 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.000 Oh you do love you for that? Okay? 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.879 Who and your team and your Firebirds team is likely 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:37.120 to get into trouble and then be get you out 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:37.639 of trouble. 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:39.960 I think, Emma jan Allison. 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:41.880 Oh, she a naughty girl. 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.320 He's a good check. You guys would love her. She's 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:48.360 saying about us, carry. 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.880 Would you get get you out of trouble as well? 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:54.840 Who would get you out of trouble? Is you're a 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.080 lawyer on the team, you can call or. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.680 I think I think she'd get me out of trouble. 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.960 Chris's kind of got that demeanor of she's not going 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:05.680 to come in too hard, She's going to talk. 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.960 She's going to talk the authorities say, you know, kiss 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.680 is a great person, So she'd get you out of trouble. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.600