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Speaker 1: That's all Wide We're talking about this. Yesterday, the mayor

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Speaker 1: of Widehwall wants a public apology from Hawks Bay Regional

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Speaker 1: Council for its response to the flooding last week. As

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Speaker 1: I told you, when they get bad weather in Widower,

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Speaker 1: they go on through the contractor and they clear the

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Speaker 1: bar at the mouth of the Widewer River in order

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Speaker 1: to make sure that as much water gets out to

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Speaker 1: see as possible. But ahead of this bad weather coming

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Speaker 1: in the council and I'm talking about the Hawks Bay

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Speaker 1: Regional Council only got that contractor there about twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours in advance, which was not nearly enough time. We

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Speaker 1: asked Hawks Bay Regional Council to come on the show today.

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Speaker 1: What a surprise. They didn't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But Widawa Mayor Craig Little is with us. Now, Hey, Craig,

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Speaker 1: hi there, how are you? I'm very well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You get a call from Mark Mature yesterday saying there's

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Speaker 1: going to be an inquiry one hundred.

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Speaker 2: So that's good. That's the first start. I'm ready to

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Speaker 2: go yet, but you know it, just asking it on

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Speaker 2: the street and they'll tell you what went wrong.

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Speaker 1: What went wrong?

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Speaker 2: O from the bar in time, too little, too late,

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Speaker 2: and you know, don't talk down to us.

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Speaker 1: Actually to us, they say, if they had gone in

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Speaker 1: there like on the on the Monday, let's say, before

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Speaker 1: the bad weather, it would have simply filled the bar

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Speaker 1: up again by Wednesday. Is it true?

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Speaker 2: There's incredible that he can say that when you sit

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Speaker 2: in an office probably two and a half three hours

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Speaker 2: drive away and then from the road that gets closed

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Speaker 2: anyway it rains. So no, that they're not correct.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that they're up to actually? I mean

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Speaker 1: should they be doing this or should you guys be

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Speaker 1: doing this? Because they seem like they're numpties.

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Speaker 2: We've asked them what's gone wrong because we used to

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Speaker 2: have local decision makers here based on why they didn't

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Speaker 2: really get it wrong very often, but now it's just never.

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Speaker 2: It's just, you know, nothing happens and we can plead

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Speaker 2: like hell and nothing happens.

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Speaker 1: What do you know the scope of the inquiry? Do

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Speaker 1: you know how long it's going to take or anything

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be. I don't think Mark

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Speaker 2: wants to muck around. He's heard something out and care

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Speaker 2: what went wrong. We've got a lot of information there

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Speaker 2: now we're sort of we're saying that people, hey, you've

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Speaker 2: got any information, can give it to us, because now

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Speaker 2: people saying, what do I do with this? And I'm

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Speaker 2: not happy, and I say, give it to me. And

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Speaker 2: so we've got a folder. Hopefully by the time they

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Speaker 2: started that they can just grab and have a look

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Speaker 2: at it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so they haven't started yet. When are they starting.

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Speaker 2: I think they're starting as soon as possible. I don't

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Speaker 2: know as he announced that yet, he didn't tell me

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Speaker 2: it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: No, well, look, we have our ways of finding these

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Speaker 1: things out. We were speaking to Nichola Willis on the

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Speaker 1: show last night and she let it slip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he's in town tomorrow. I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure by the sound have.

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Speaker 1: We have we pre announced his announcement? Do you think?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, because everyone's been asking,

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Speaker 2: everyone's been telling me about it. Quite I was saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: it looks like you have an inquiry. I'm going, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: that sounds good.

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Speaker 1: I'm stoked for you that you have in an inquiry.

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Speaker 1: What is the relationship with Hawks Bay Regional Council?

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Speaker 2: Like, ah, look, look we get on but but it

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Speaker 2: We've always felt that they treat us like we're a

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Speaker 2: small population. Yet we're thirty percent of the land air

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Speaker 2: of Hawk's Bay, we're sixty percent of the water mass,

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Speaker 2: and we just you know, never get what we want.

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Speaker 2: And you know, they just they do other things down

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Speaker 2: there and they don't do it here.

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Speaker 1: Craig, these are the same people who stuffed up the

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Speaker 1: Esque Valley response.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but when Cyclone

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Speaker 1: Gabrielle came through, people were calling Hawks Bay Regional Council

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Speaker 1: saying do we need to evacuate? And they were saying, no, absolutely, fine,

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Speaker 1: you're overreacting, and then guess what happened in this valley.

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Speaker 1: So these people have form when it comes to not

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Speaker 1: making the right calls. Do you think that it should be?

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 2: I just think they don't listen. They're above listening to

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Speaker 2: the public, and that's where the elected members should come

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Speaker 2: in their role as a conjuc between the public and

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Speaker 2: the operations. And is it working here in Viiral while?

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Speaker 2: I'm beginning to wonder because that, you know, people just

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Speaker 2: feel like they've been just spoken down to every time

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Speaker 2: they complain.

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Speaker 1: Do these people Craig, should these people actually be in

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Speaker 1: charge of this stuff? Shouldn't it? I mean, should an

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Speaker 1: outcome of this, of this inquiry be that if it

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Speaker 1: is found that they have stuffed this up, they do

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Speaker 1: not get to do this anymore, someone else us to

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that we believe we could do it

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Speaker 2: better than our say, look, you've got gisbel Gizmeal is

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Speaker 2: a unitary council. They make their own decisions, they do everything.

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Speaker 2: We have to go cap in hand down to hooks day.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just not working. Yeah, working, it can work,

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Speaker 2: but not working like it should work.

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Speaker 1: What do you want? Do you want an apology?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Gosh, yes, with us for apology, because that gives

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Speaker 2: people a bit of hope that we can move on.

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Speaker 2: But with no apology, it's just like saying, well, actually

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Speaker 2: nothing is wrong here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. Hey listen, Craig, thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: the best of luck, and I hope the inquiry finds

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Speaker 1: exactly what I think we're going to find. That is

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Speaker 1: Craig Little, the Mayor of whir Or. So stand by

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Speaker 1: for the announcement tomorrow, which you appear to know everything

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Speaker 1: about already.

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