1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ENZ and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Oli Peterson's with us in Australia. Ollie, 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: what's the latest on that We've just heard from the 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Prime Minister. I know there's been a press conference. Who 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: what's the latest on this attack in Sydney. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan, good afternoon to you this. I'm just heartbroken. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm almost speechless trying to even communicate any of this 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: year because I never thought you and I'd be having 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: this conversation about something so callous happening in Australia. But 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: as we talk, the latest information is that year sixteen 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 2: people did forty injured. And we've started to learn more 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 2: details about the alleged shooter's father and son, Sajid Akram 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: age fifty and his son Navid Akram twenty four, revealing 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: today that the alleged attackers were both here. The son 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: was actually born here in Australia in two thousand and one. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: Sajid Akram arrived here in Australia on a student visa 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety eight transfer to a partner. These 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: are in two thousand and one. Now the son, Navid, 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: who is still Alivening Hospital. He is in Australian citizens, 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: as I said, born in two thousand and one. But 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: he came to the attention of asy Oh back in 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: October twenty nineteen examined. An assessment was made that there 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: was no indication of any ongoing threat or threat of 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: him engaging in violence, according to the Prime Minister, and 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: it was based on concerns about the people he was 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: associated with rather than direct concerns Harvard about his own character. 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: According to the PM, no doubt there'll be a full 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Frank Sarah investigation about the father and son's movements and 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: who they have been in contact with. Homes obviously raided 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: in Western Sydney and Airbnb involved in this as well 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: in Canterbury, So who exactly put them up to this? 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: And we now know the worldwide coverage this is receiving 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: and just the shock and the horror as we talk 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: today Ryan the Prime Minister moving swiftly to hold a 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: national cabinet in twenty minutes time, and they want to 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: try and get some sort of uniformity around gun laws 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: here amongst the states and the territories in Australia, because 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: how did the Acram's own sixth licensed firearms and we'll 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: be able to undertake what they allegedly undertook yesterday in 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: Bondai Beach. 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the thing, even though the sun because 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: they were all living under one roof, weren't they. So 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: when the checks were done on the dad, can you 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: have sex guns? Surely someone would have seen, even though 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: if it didn't harbored the ideology that he was mates 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: with the Isis guy. 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: You know, you'd wonder how anyone in Australia would need 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: six licensed firearms unless there are a farmer for specific purposes. 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 2: And it's interesting over here in Wa, we've been through 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: a process over the last eighteen months of basically removing 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: even more guns from the community for these very reasons. Now, 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: of course, guns are going to get him through criminal activity, 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: and guns are going to get him through biking organizations 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: and organized crime. They're like, we understand that, right, but 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: if you have six licensed firearms to somebody living in 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: Western Sydney, you'd have to say, hang on a minute, 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: why does anybody need six guns? It just makes absolutely 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: no sense. 59 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Now you've got your opposition leader is you know, she's 60 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: got what's his name, Alban Ezy in her site over this, 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: she's saying it. You know, he's been lax on anti symitism. 62 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: He's letting this happen. What's you know, is their political 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: fallout for alban easy there? Does that stick? 64 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: Think? I think that will be Look, I think Australia 65 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: is a very tolerant and open country. I mean, look 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: at the words of our national anthem, Ryan you know 67 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: we are one and free. Bouma's playing to share and 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: everybody can rejoice. And I think there has been a 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: softening I suppose of our approach towards you know, one 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: and all who decide to call Australia home. And we've 71 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: been very proud it's been an open door policy when 72 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: it comes to migration. But this has got a lot 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: of people today and you've read it in the column Issues, 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: you see it on social media, here, it on the 75 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: twelf back lines. Today people are wondering, hold on a minute, 76 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: what's going on. If you don't want to come to 77 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Australia and you don't want to come to Australia and 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: assimilate and be part of what is an open and 79 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: free society, then you've got to get tough about it. 80 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: And I think the sort of Kumbaya approach at the 81 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: moment of the alban Easy government is coming into question. 82 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: I would suggest there'll be a huge surge here if 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: the opposition doesn't make advantage of this politically, for probably 84 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party. But have a look at 85 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: the hero. This is probably in such a dark time today. 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: The hero of yesterday, that Grengrosser from Cronulla, Ahmed Alhama, 87 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: and he's a Syrian, right and he goes in there. 88 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: We've all seen the pictures now that tackle that he performed, 89 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: that fruit shopping Cranulla will never have another bad day 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: of business. He's going to be the most successful convenience 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: or fruit shop owner in Australia at the moment. And 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: what an act of bravery. He is a hero and 93 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: he has shown to everybody else, hey, I love this 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: place and I want to protect it from all costs 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: as well. So that's one sort of glimmer of hope 96 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: we can take out of yesterday. But you know, just 97 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks before Christmas, as heartik here is 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: obviously underway just on the postcard beach of Australia. If 99 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: not one of the most iconic beaches in the world 100 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: that this could happen, Brian, it is just heartbreaking, is 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: absolutely heartbreaking, a terrible day for this country. 102 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: Ollie, really appreciate you being with us this afternoon, seventeen 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: away from five Oli Peters in our Australia correspondent. 104 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 105 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 106 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.