1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from news Talks at be. 3 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:15,973 Speaker 2: Our texpert is here with details on a big change 4 00:00:16,133 --> 00:00:19,013 Speaker 2: coming to one of the world's most popular social media platforms. 5 00:00:19,093 --> 00:00:22,133 Speaker 2: Meta is changing the way that you log into your account. 6 00:00:22,733 --> 00:00:25,093 Speaker 2: Or Stenhouse is our text bit he's got the details. 7 00:00:25,173 --> 00:00:25,653 Speaker 2: Caut deport. 8 00:00:26,493 --> 00:00:29,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about changing, Jack, I think, and more about adding. 9 00:00:30,053 --> 00:00:33,893 Speaker 3: I would say, because that adding something called past key support. 10 00:00:33,933 --> 00:00:36,373 Speaker 3: And you're thinking, what on earth is a past key? 11 00:00:36,933 --> 00:00:38,933 Speaker 3: And is a really good reason why you should care 12 00:00:38,973 --> 00:00:43,213 Speaker 3: about this? And it's because it is significantly stronger and 13 00:00:43,253 --> 00:00:47,933 Speaker 3: more secure than a password. Why, right, It's because if 14 00:00:47,973 --> 00:00:50,053 Speaker 3: I try to explain to you a password, what you 15 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:52,973 Speaker 3: do is you just basically over the Internet when you 16 00:00:52,973 --> 00:00:54,773 Speaker 3: go to a website, you just yell out what you 17 00:00:54,853 --> 00:00:56,893 Speaker 3: use a name and your password is right. It doesn't 18 00:00:57,013 --> 00:01:00,893 Speaker 3: check whether or not it is a legitimate website a 19 00:01:00,933 --> 00:01:04,093 Speaker 3: fake website. You're like, here's my user name, here's my password. 20 00:01:04,213 --> 00:01:07,253 Speaker 3: Try it and it tries it ever gets it right. 21 00:01:07,413 --> 00:01:10,013 Speaker 3: You get in it's wrong, you don't. The problem is 22 00:01:10,213 --> 00:01:12,293 Speaker 3: if you do go to like a malicious website and 23 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:14,653 Speaker 3: you put your real credentials and they then have your 24 00:01:14,693 --> 00:01:18,333 Speaker 3: real credentials. So that is a real problem. Passwords can 25 00:01:18,373 --> 00:01:20,373 Speaker 3: be stolen, they can be guessed, they can be leaked. 26 00:01:20,693 --> 00:01:23,253 Speaker 3: So what is better than that, Well, that's this past 27 00:01:23,293 --> 00:01:26,493 Speaker 3: key thing, right, And more and more websites and apps 28 00:01:26,493 --> 00:01:28,573 Speaker 3: are starting to roll out these past keys, and for 29 00:01:28,613 --> 00:01:32,893 Speaker 3: good reason, because it is way more sophisticated. Why because 30 00:01:33,173 --> 00:01:36,453 Speaker 3: think of it more like a handshake, and you verified 31 00:01:36,573 --> 00:01:40,973 Speaker 3: both parties before you actually hand over that information. So 32 00:01:41,413 --> 00:01:44,933 Speaker 3: a past key, instead of you giving the information, it 33 00:01:45,093 --> 00:01:47,813 Speaker 3: first gives you and your device some information that says 34 00:01:48,573 --> 00:01:52,173 Speaker 3: I am Facebook or I am the Herold website, for example, 35 00:01:52,533 --> 00:01:55,333 Speaker 3: and your password manager then goes, okay, cool, I know 36 00:01:55,413 --> 00:01:57,773 Speaker 3: who you are. I've got a credential that we've already 37 00:01:58,133 --> 00:02:00,613 Speaker 3: exchanged in the past when you signed up. I'm going 38 00:02:00,693 --> 00:02:03,333 Speaker 3: to give you an encrypted special version of that back 39 00:02:03,973 --> 00:02:07,373 Speaker 3: and hey, Christo, that me that you can log in. 40 00:02:07,613 --> 00:02:09,733 Speaker 3: And it means that if anyone was to get into 41 00:02:09,733 --> 00:02:12,693 Speaker 3: your password manager and see this list of gobble you 42 00:02:12,773 --> 00:02:15,493 Speaker 3: goog they can't do a whole lot with it. And 43 00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:18,093 Speaker 3: if you go to a fake website, your passkey isn't 44 00:02:18,133 --> 00:02:20,973 Speaker 3: going to actually activate because it's not the real website. 45 00:02:20,973 --> 00:02:23,133 Speaker 3: And that special handshake hasn't taken place. 46 00:02:23,493 --> 00:02:26,093 Speaker 2: And so do you have to memorize a code or 47 00:02:26,093 --> 00:02:28,933 Speaker 2: a password you would with a regular password. 48 00:02:29,213 --> 00:02:31,493 Speaker 3: No, So what you do so it relies on your 49 00:02:31,613 --> 00:02:35,333 Speaker 3: device biometrics, right, So that means that it gets stored 50 00:02:35,373 --> 00:02:37,693 Speaker 3: on your device, It gets stored in your password manager. 51 00:02:37,733 --> 00:02:39,813 Speaker 3: So as long as you can get into that thing, 52 00:02:40,213 --> 00:02:42,173 Speaker 3: you're good. So if it's your iPhone or you're Android, 53 00:02:42,253 --> 00:02:45,413 Speaker 3: it might be your face or your fingerprint. If it's 54 00:02:45,453 --> 00:02:48,853 Speaker 3: a computer, it may be a password. But once you're 55 00:02:48,933 --> 00:02:51,533 Speaker 3: into that and it can do the handshaky bit, you're good. 56 00:02:51,573 --> 00:02:54,173 Speaker 3: You don't have to remember because it's long, it's really long. 57 00:02:54,813 --> 00:02:56,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that makes a lot of sense. Actually, 58 00:02:57,013 --> 00:02:59,373 Speaker 2: I've got one I think that I use at the moment. 59 00:02:59,373 --> 00:03:01,853 Speaker 2: I think the New Zealand's got a pass key, and 60 00:03:01,933 --> 00:03:03,693 Speaker 2: I found it a little bit confusing at first, like 61 00:03:03,733 --> 00:03:06,893 Speaker 2: a distinguishing between a pass code and asky or a 62 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:09,413 Speaker 2: past word in a pass key. But that makes sense 63 00:03:09,413 --> 00:03:13,213 Speaker 2: and anything obviously that makes different accounts more secure has 64 00:03:13,253 --> 00:03:16,213 Speaker 2: got to be valuable. Hey, speaking of Facebook, metas So, 65 00:03:16,293 --> 00:03:19,013 Speaker 2: the company that owns Facebook, is teaming up with Oakley 66 00:03:19,253 --> 00:03:22,693 Speaker 2: the sunglasses designers for a new collab. 67 00:03:23,653 --> 00:03:27,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, they collabing on their smart glasses. They really want 68 00:03:27,253 --> 00:03:29,373 Speaker 3: these to be a thing. They are not going anywhere. 69 00:03:30,253 --> 00:03:34,893 Speaker 3: They have put out five new styles with Oakley and 70 00:03:34,933 --> 00:03:36,853 Speaker 3: I guess they try to appeal to more people with 71 00:03:36,933 --> 00:03:39,493 Speaker 3: some new designs and they've got some new flash specs 72 00:03:39,533 --> 00:03:44,053 Speaker 3: to Jack. These glasses have a three K front facing camera, 73 00:03:44,133 --> 00:03:48,133 Speaker 3: so you can record video in three K. That's nuts. 74 00:03:49,093 --> 00:03:51,413 Speaker 3: It's got speakers that kind of sit over your ear 75 00:03:51,533 --> 00:03:54,493 Speaker 3: in a microphone built into it, so if you are 76 00:03:54,493 --> 00:03:56,453 Speaker 3: connected to your phone and it's got Internet, you can 77 00:03:56,453 --> 00:03:58,613 Speaker 3: listen to music without putting headphones and it just kind 78 00:03:58,653 --> 00:04:01,693 Speaker 3: of plays it above your ear. It's kind of cool. Actually, 79 00:04:02,253 --> 00:04:04,733 Speaker 3: you can do phone calls, you can even ask meta 80 00:04:04,773 --> 00:04:08,653 Speaker 3: AI questions. But it is a bit spooky that it 81 00:04:08,733 --> 00:04:11,653 Speaker 3: records such high quality straight from the front of the camera. 82 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:14,973 Speaker 3: We may be looking at I don't know, especially. 83 00:04:14,653 --> 00:04:16,453 Speaker 2: With other people might not realize. 84 00:04:16,893 --> 00:04:20,973 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like going to are you going to take 85 00:04:21,013 --> 00:04:23,093 Speaker 3: your Are you going to take your glasses off when 86 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:24,413 Speaker 3: you go into a changing room or something? 87 00:04:24,453 --> 00:04:26,533 Speaker 2: I hope so you know, yeah, well oh yeah, I 88 00:04:26,573 --> 00:04:28,773 Speaker 2: hadn't even thought of that. Yeah, that's a very good point. Yeah, 89 00:04:28,813 --> 00:04:30,573 Speaker 2: I mean it's a it's gonna be interesting, right because 90 00:04:30,613 --> 00:04:32,733 Speaker 2: a lot of the big, you know, a big big 91 00:04:32,773 --> 00:04:35,413 Speaker 2: tech companies sort of think that the smartphones have been 92 00:04:35,813 --> 00:04:39,253 Speaker 2: iterated to their endpoint or something equivalent to the end points, 93 00:04:39,293 --> 00:04:42,533 Speaker 2: so smartphones can't really improve in their current format as 94 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:44,973 Speaker 2: they are. So they're looking for the next device, and 95 00:04:45,053 --> 00:04:47,613 Speaker 2: a lot of them are putting big bets on wearaballs 96 00:04:47,693 --> 00:04:50,213 Speaker 2: like glasses as being the kind of new smartphone. So 97 00:04:50,293 --> 00:04:52,693 Speaker 2: in ten years time, instead of texting away, will all 98 00:04:52,733 --> 00:04:55,853 Speaker 2: be using our eyes and voices to control things through 99 00:04:55,893 --> 00:04:58,333 Speaker 2: our hopefully well we'll see Hey, thanks so much more, 100 00:04:58,453 --> 00:05:00,973 Speaker 2: Catch you again soon our textbook Paul's Steenhouse. 101 00:05:01,493 --> 00:05:04,613 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 102 00:05:04,693 --> 00:05:07,853 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine Saturday, or follow 103 00:05:07,933 --> 00:05:09,493 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio