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Speaker 1: Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders. Welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number two seven for the twenty second

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Speaker 2: of October. She's a Wednesday, and what a great show

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Speaker 2: it was. If you're looking forward to the chat on geez,

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Speaker 2: what chat do we have to drop weird pets in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand because people in the Wellington area have been

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Speaker 2: told not to get pet possums. We don't get to

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Speaker 2: that because the other chats blew up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah again again.

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Speaker 2: Again, our chats blow up. But we'll get to that

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Speaker 2: one tomorrow. But yeah, I particularly like the chats at

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Speaker 2: the end of the show on not letting your kids

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Speaker 2: when a very good time was had by all or

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Speaker 2: potentially just me.

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Speaker 3: Some great calls absolutely and Jean, watch out for Jean.

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Speaker 3: Geena is a beauty.

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Speaker 2: Wait for the shotgun, a phone call and just to skit,

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Speaker 2: just everything fired down the phone by Jean.

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Speaker 3: Yep, the busiest woman in New Zealand by the sounds

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Speaker 3: of it, had a lot of going on.

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Speaker 2: A lot on Yeah, some robots in there. There's all

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Speaker 2: kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Please give a taste of Kiwi. All right, you seeing busy.

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Speaker 1: Love you the big stories, the big issues, the big

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Speaker 1: trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talk said the very good afternoon to welcome into Thursday show.

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Speaker 3: It is six pass one, get a Mets.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler good everybody else, Thanks for tuning into

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big show for you today. After three o'clock soup quick.

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Speaker 3: We were going to get to this yesterday, but we

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Speaker 3: were inundated with some other great chat. But unusual pits

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Speaker 3: that are not cats and dogs. This is after Wellington

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Speaker 3: Council have told residents they cannot adopt any more possums.

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Speaker 3: But what unusual pits yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeh, it's gonna be a good chat. We were gonna

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Speaker 2: have it yesterday, couldn't get to it. But there was

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Speaker 2: someone who had a lama that was living inside. So

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that.

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Speaker 3: Love that. That's after three after two o'clock. Apartment living

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Speaker 3: is apparently becoming the key we dream for some families.

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Speaker 3: This is as the numbers of children drop in Auckland

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Speaker 3: and Wellington's inner city areas. So these young families are

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Speaker 3: bucking the trend by buying up apartments instead of traditional

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how big does your house have to be for

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Speaker 2: a family? Surely you can fit at least two kids

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Speaker 2: per bedroom, so an apartment's fine. So if you've got

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Speaker 2: two kids, that's just two rooms this game.

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Speaker 3: Yep, looking forward to that after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about the wild weather hitting parts

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Speaker 3: of the country right now. As we know, many parts

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Speaker 3: of the country are in the grip of a major storm.

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Speaker 3: I'm just reading news coming to hand that the west

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Speaker 3: have been closed. Flying debris, power cuts, treacherous roads are

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Speaker 3: all on the cards today. Emergency services are on high

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Speaker 3: alert and locals are being told stay indoors, secure your property,

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Speaker 3: emergency are in place in parts of the South Island,

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Speaker 3: The Cargo, meanwhile, has upgraded to a red wind warning.

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Speaker 3: All parks are closed and all buses are suspended and

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Speaker 3: there are widespread power outages in Queenstown, Glen Orkie, Wanaka, Tiano,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so one hundred and eighty ten eighty, give us

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Speaker 2: feel of what's going on. This text to Ben, I'm

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Speaker 3: so come on through. I wait, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: And we're hearing a few stories, including Jess Davidson whose

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Speaker 2: for them bad weather flying trampolines.

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Speaker 3: They certainly are. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 2: I lived in the US for a couple of years

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Speaker 2: This meant that if anybody had a fall, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: Un Lisa's hope your flight works out. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna I don't think my flight into christ it's

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I fingers crossed for you. How frustrating that

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Speaker 3: chat with lee Ane Malcolm. You'd remember her name and face.

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Speaker 3: Former TV three reporter and very renowned journalist. She is

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Speaker 2: Then after that we'll get onto the strikes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, a lot going on this hour, but right now

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Matt and Tyler Good afternoon, the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons US talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoons. You we are talking about

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Speaker 3: the major storm heading many parts of the country right

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Speaker 3: now and keen to get your views and what is

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Speaker 2: I'm getting. I mean there's a difference between Canterbury and

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Speaker 2: christ Church. People forget, I mean christ Church doesn't all

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the district is very it's diverse.

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Speaker 2: It's huge, absolutely huge Canterbury. So hardly any wind in

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Speaker 2: christ Church twenty eight calimeters now odd gusts a bit more,

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Speaker 2: says this Texter. This other teach says, you can't beat

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Speaker 3: Blind, nicely said so Leanne Malcolm is, of course a

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Speaker 3: back on the tools and joining us to report on

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Speaker 5: How did that happen?

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Speaker 7: Well, I can't resist a good a good chat about

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm out, we're about to We're about say

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Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm driving, well, I'm just actually getting near

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Speaker 7: And I just went into Aratown because we've got a

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Speaker 7: So I thought it might be a sensible idea to

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Speaker 7: This is a funny story too. We've we've got a

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Speaker 9: Get in to the gates because it's priticle.

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Speaker 7: I've just realized that actually I'm probably I can leave

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Speaker 7: So it's a very high anxiety kind of dayed here.

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Speaker 7: It's it's really bad, the like I can you still

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Speaker 7: hear me? Yeah, I'm just stopped outside my house, which

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Speaker 7: I can't into anymore, with a dog in the back

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Speaker 7: we've had thunder, we've had we've had sort of sunshine

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Speaker 7: It's been a hard week here. We had flooding on Monday.

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Speaker 7: We had just non I know, I think Aukam was

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Speaker 7: so envious. And we've been freezing. We've had a really

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Speaker 7: rubbish spring. It's been the worst I can ever remember.

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Speaker 7: I think it's to stay home and hunt down And

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Speaker 7: I think just like Canterbury and I heard that in

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Speaker 7: but I just our wind. The official speed on the

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Speaker 7: an hour or something. But honestly, like I wish you

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Speaker 7: But yeah, you get these lulls and then it's just massive.

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Speaker 7: And they've said it's capable of lifting roofs and so

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Speaker 7: quite interesting. They're still flooding everywhere from Monday. And I've

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Speaker 7: looked up at Wayney see it's not going to come

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Speaker 7: got to the airport Rundown and all the flights, can.

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Speaker 2: You know all the flights in and out are canceled and.

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Speaker 7: hasten to say it's a virgin flight from Sydney right

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Speaker 2: Make it spectacular coming in there amongst the mountains. Time

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Speaker 2: and it was the power out in Queenstown's town or

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Speaker 3: O eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: What is happening at your place doesn't need to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's all the people that track flights, you know,

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Speaker 2: Not much one here in Timuru so far was raining

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So we are talking about

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Speaker 2: Well and sympathize for those where we're actually impacting. But

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, you're in Kai Quarter, is there?

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Speaker 10: Mate, we're thank it on the New Zealand Motor Home

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Speaker 10: The wife's crying.

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Speaker 13: Oh, it's terrible.

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Speaker 3: Far rout. What campground do you win?

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Speaker 10: Specifically, it's a New Zealand Motor Home and Caravan Association

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Speaker 3: That sound in South Bay, isn't it? Is that down

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it's just howling straight in and we think

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, they're saying just stay away. It's just not worth it.

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Speaker 10: But this morning at ten o'top, nothing was happening it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so what's the plan for the rest of

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Speaker 3: the day. The doggies will obviously be in the camp

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Speaker 3: on a nice movie.

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Speaker 9: That's it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're putting on a bit of YouTube and listening

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Speaker 10: But we're just staying pot until we can get going

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Speaker 2: Well, Jeff, you just stay listening NonStop to metin Tyler

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Speaker 2: afternoons and.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep your company and your doggies as well.

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Speaker 2: Stay safe out there. Thank you for your call.

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Speaker 2: This is a positive story out of Havelock, North Hi. Folks,

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Speaker 3: Have it sounds like the place to be today. I

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Speaker 3: call Richard.

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Speaker 2: You're in Napier.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gooday, guys, you can call me if you like.

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Speaker 5: That's what everybody else calls me. Here you going, guys,

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Speaker 5: team program love. It just gone through not so long ago,

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Speaker 5: through the tacker paws and I'm sure you know where

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Speaker 5: still towing caravans. And I just about got blowing off

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Speaker 15: Man.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. It's a hell of a storm.

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Speaker 5: And I'm probably one of the last few nights of

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Speaker 5: I drive all over the place, and I've never experienced

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Speaker 5: So Pam or Jeff or Jill, if you're listening, I

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Speaker 5: far as Foxton and pull a tent pole down as bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like a good plan, hay Bag. I

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Speaker 2: reckon get off the road.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, cheers, guys, you have a good one.

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Speaker 3: You go well, mate, that's a sensible night of the road,

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Speaker 3: as he said. But who was the shout out to?

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Speaker 3: Was it Jan? I think Jam was in the mix.

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Speaker 2: There was a few few names. Who are you still there, Haybag.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my wife Pam and my brother in lawa old

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Speaker 5: Jeff who will be listening, Oh, Jeff's ad night one

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Speaker 5: on the road for forty plus years. Yes, and look

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Speaker 5: we've never well, I haven't even known anything like it.

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Speaker 5: I've been on a few storms around New Zealand driving,

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Speaker 2: Stay safe, hay Bag. Yeah, Pam and Jeff. If you're listening,

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Speaker 2: hay Bags, hunkering down in Foxton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a wise man. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 2: Can you still get Foxton Fizz? Good question, Haybag might

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Speaker 2: a good time. A hot in Dunedin right now. It's hot, boy,

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Speaker 2: is it hot? But we all know that's not gonna last.

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Speaker 3: Keep those things coming through nine two ninety two headlines

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Speaker 3: with Raylene coming up. Then we've taken more of your calls.

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Speaker 6: Us talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's

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Speaker 6: at least five trees have toppled at her Gore home

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Speaker 8: Over town that we've got no power. Trees to fall

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Speaker 6: Multiple high ways are closed. Power is up to thousands

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Speaker 6: of a fire. Strikes are picking up steam across the country.

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Speaker 6: Is more than one hundred thousand workers across the public

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Speaker 6: sector keep their promise to down tools protesting stalled negotiations.

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Speaker 6: Marchers have gave it in Auckland, Hamilton, faring at a

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raillan, and we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: storm that has sweeping many parts of the country. We're

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Speaker 3: really keen to hear how it is at your place.

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Speaker 3: A one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that numbered call.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. There's a lot of love out

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Speaker 2: there for haybag coming into hot into Foxton and Rule

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Speaker 2: a Night of the Road. Forty years out there, arm driving, Godspeed,

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Speaker 2: Haybag says about twenty five Texas Sea in valha Us

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Speaker 2: is this text and Fox and Firs celebrated one hundred

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Speaker 2: Fox and Firs. Yes, as far as I know, Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 2: you can buy Fox and Firs. I'm at Fox and Beach.

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Speaker 3: Cheers, Philip, great tip.

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Speaker 2: I love Fox and Fox Furs. Fox and Furs are

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Speaker 2: still around, mostly in specialty shops and can be quite

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Speaker 3: I've never had it, but I've heard it's a phenomenal thing.

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Speaker 2: But it's one of the best sodas on the market.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely loves it.

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Speaker 3: Love it. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is that number to call?

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Speaker 17: Get a mark, Get a I'm on a person and

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Speaker 17: it's blowing a gale.

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Speaker 3: How how fast you reckon? She's cranking a nash burden.

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Speaker 17: Ah, she's got a bit. She's got to be cranky

435
00:20:47,573 --> 00:20:51,653
Speaker 17: up for around about about eighty to ninety k Mart

436
00:20:51,693 --> 00:20:54,373
Speaker 17: one hundred k Mart at least, and gusts and it

437
00:20:54,453 --> 00:20:59,693
Speaker 17: comes down and the way dozing in mm anything you

438
00:20:59,813 --> 00:21:00,133
Speaker 17: got something.

439
00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:02,292
Speaker 2: You've got branches coming off trees?

440
00:21:04,133 --> 00:21:06,013
Speaker 17: Not well I can see from where I am, but

441
00:21:06,853 --> 00:21:10,613
Speaker 17: certainly earlier on it was Harley when it was better

442
00:21:10,693 --> 00:21:14,253
Speaker 17: round Helene. When he starts blowing the foot didn't stop

443
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:17,973
Speaker 17: being just after Anti Stods building and there he's really cranking.

444
00:21:18,733 --> 00:21:22,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, will you stay saved? Mark and ash Ash Burton.

445
00:21:23,013 --> 00:21:25,573
Speaker 2: It's blowing a gale of napier, says this textter. It's

446
00:21:25,573 --> 00:21:29,053
Speaker 2: blying the feathers off me chicken. That's from big norm

447
00:21:29,253 --> 00:21:30,213
Speaker 2: of napier.

448
00:21:29,933 --> 00:21:31,973
Speaker 3: Big norm. You stay safe? Made are you another night

449
00:21:32,013 --> 00:21:34,093
Speaker 3: of the road as well? He sounds like it.

450
00:21:35,533 --> 00:21:38,573
Speaker 2: Well, we'll try and confirm that story that that it's

451
00:21:38,573 --> 00:21:40,133
Speaker 2: blowing the feathers off normous.

452
00:21:39,853 --> 00:21:42,773
Speaker 3: Chicken might save you some time. Actually yeah, yeah, yeah,

453
00:21:42,853 --> 00:21:43,812
Speaker 3: just self plucking.

454
00:21:44,133 --> 00:21:45,773
Speaker 2: Just fit straight in the pot.

455
00:21:47,853 --> 00:21:49,693
Speaker 3: God speeds to those chickens, if that's true.

456
00:21:49,773 --> 00:21:54,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, as the fur or feathers been blown off of

457
00:21:54,453 --> 00:21:56,693
Speaker 2: any of your animals anywhere in New Zealand eight hundred

458
00:21:56,693 --> 00:21:58,293
Speaker 2: and eighty, ten eighty, that's what we want to.

459
00:21:58,293 --> 00:22:05,653
Speaker 3: Hear, Maurice, how are you God, You're not I'm in Lincoln, Yep, yep,

460
00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:08,933
Speaker 3: not that bad, Not there, Ba.

461
00:22:10,013 --> 00:22:12,173
Speaker 8: It's like calm, then it's blowing.

462
00:22:13,293 --> 00:22:16,533
Speaker 3: Any any tramps being picked up and slung across properties?

463
00:22:17,733 --> 00:22:19,493
Speaker 4: No, no, is there?

464
00:22:19,493 --> 00:22:20,613
Speaker 2: Have you go any chickens?

465
00:22:21,653 --> 00:22:23,973
Speaker 8: No, I hope My family are on the lower North

466
00:22:24,013 --> 00:22:25,493
Speaker 8: filling Okay, on the farm.

467
00:22:26,453 --> 00:22:27,853
Speaker 3: Oh, they are in a farm in the lower part

468
00:22:27,853 --> 00:22:30,973
Speaker 3: of the North Island. What what part just north of Wellington.

469
00:22:30,773 --> 00:22:33,413
Speaker 8: Day south south?

470
00:22:34,533 --> 00:22:34,733
Speaker 17: Oh?

471
00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:37,613
Speaker 18: Yes, yeah, out by her Okura.

472
00:22:37,893 --> 00:22:40,453
Speaker 2: Oh yep. Can you give them a ring and check

473
00:22:40,493 --> 00:22:42,653
Speaker 2: on them?

474
00:22:43,013 --> 00:22:45,613
Speaker 8: I don't don't know if the powers out or anything.

475
00:22:45,933 --> 00:22:47,173
Speaker 3: Right. What are their names?

476
00:22:48,893 --> 00:22:50,893
Speaker 4: Nolan, Diane, Nolan Diane?

477
00:22:50,973 --> 00:22:54,213
Speaker 3: All right, Nolan Diane. If you're listening, Greese is a

478
00:22:54,213 --> 00:22:55,093
Speaker 3: bit worried about you.

479
00:22:55,213 --> 00:22:57,013
Speaker 2: Maurice, and Lincoln is a bit worried about you. She's

480
00:22:57,053 --> 00:23:00,773
Speaker 2: sweet airs. Yeah, it's it's pretty pretty chilling Lincoln, but

481
00:23:00,853 --> 00:23:02,893
Speaker 2: she's worried about you. And we're south Wyre Rapper.

482
00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:05,693
Speaker 3: It's a good question. Yeah, yeah, if you're in south

483
00:23:05,693 --> 00:23:07,653
Speaker 3: Way Rapper, how's it going? I W one hundred and

484
00:23:07,693 --> 00:23:08,893
Speaker 3: eighty ten eight year is that number?

485
00:23:09,693 --> 00:23:13,613
Speaker 2: Get a christ you're in Wellington? I believe Hey.

486
00:23:13,453 --> 00:23:16,133
Speaker 15: Boys, yeah, I'm over makes me over the Winoui Hill

487
00:23:16,413 --> 00:23:20,653
Speaker 15: in WinUI Marta. I went and delivered a car for

488
00:23:20,693 --> 00:23:23,373
Speaker 15: servicing this morning at seven o'clock in Lower Hut. I

489
00:23:23,413 --> 00:23:25,773
Speaker 15: had to walk forty minutes back to my car and

490
00:23:25,773 --> 00:23:29,533
Speaker 15: for Tony, I felt like that lady yesterday that TikTok

491
00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:32,173
Speaker 15: that went viral, and I'm a big boy and man

492
00:23:32,253 --> 00:23:35,973
Speaker 15: that wind was throwing me around on the road. But

493
00:23:36,053 --> 00:23:37,933
Speaker 15: I've just got home and lunchtime I was meant to

494
00:23:37,933 --> 00:23:40,853
Speaker 15: go and pick up my granddaughter to look after her

495
00:23:40,853 --> 00:23:43,853
Speaker 15: because school has closed and the WinUI Hill from the

496
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Speaker 15: Winouis side or from both sides as closed one hundred

497
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Speaker 15: and sixty k winds at the top, so I can't

498
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Speaker 15: get over the hill. And then as I came home,

499
00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:56,413
Speaker 15: I found I'm in a rural area. Came found that

500
00:23:56,453 --> 00:23:58,173
Speaker 15: a tree had come down and dropped off the road

501
00:23:58,213 --> 00:23:59,573
Speaker 15: so nobody could go further south.

502
00:23:59,653 --> 00:24:01,133
Speaker 9: So I've just come back.

503
00:24:01,013 --> 00:24:03,133
Speaker 15: In from chopping the tree down to let the cars

504
00:24:03,173 --> 00:24:04,133
Speaker 15: go through, and.

505
00:24:04,093 --> 00:24:04,973
Speaker 9: Another one's just gone.

506
00:24:05,093 --> 00:24:06,453
Speaker 15: Another one's just gone down the road.

507
00:24:06,933 --> 00:24:08,813
Speaker 4: But you know, until one and blowing.

508
00:24:08,853 --> 00:24:12,173
Speaker 15: I'm a bit older, I've one of those blood filled thumbs.

509
00:24:12,573 --> 00:24:14,933
Speaker 15: When the when the blue wood went around and slammed

510
00:24:14,933 --> 00:24:16,173
Speaker 15: on it, so I know that's going to hurt.

511
00:24:16,093 --> 00:24:17,053
Speaker 17: In a couple of hours.

512
00:24:17,213 --> 00:24:20,773
Speaker 15: But anyway, but coming out so on my deck, I

513
00:24:20,773 --> 00:24:22,133
Speaker 15: don't know whether you can hear the wind. I'll just

514
00:24:22,173 --> 00:24:23,373
Speaker 15: hold my phone out for a sex.

515
00:24:25,533 --> 00:24:28,693
Speaker 3: Disappointingly little medawind yeah, little bursts.

516
00:24:28,613 --> 00:24:31,693
Speaker 15: But yeah, anyway, it's sudy, it's springing down the valley.

517
00:24:32,413 --> 00:24:34,213
Speaker 15: I can see the rain drops. It's heading in a

518
00:24:34,253 --> 00:24:37,413
Speaker 15: southerly direction and everything is shaking and rubbish bins and

519
00:24:37,853 --> 00:24:39,973
Speaker 15: all those things that we expect and living Wellington on

520
00:24:39,973 --> 00:24:41,013
Speaker 15: one of our days like today.

521
00:24:41,373 --> 00:24:45,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good on you for gun and sorting that tree. Yeah,

522
00:24:45,533 --> 00:24:47,292
Speaker 2: good on you, Chris. And sorry to hear about your

523
00:24:47,293 --> 00:24:48,293
Speaker 2: thumb and you stay safe.

524
00:24:49,973 --> 00:24:51,813
Speaker 3: Thanks you reached up for the rest of the day, mate.

525
00:24:51,973 --> 00:24:53,653
Speaker 2: I was disappointed with the lack of wind on that

526
00:24:53,693 --> 00:24:57,253
Speaker 2: phone noise though, Yeah, that's so disappointing when when when

527
00:24:57,333 --> 00:25:00,373
Speaker 2: you know it doesn't sounds as powerful as you'd hope.

528
00:25:00,373 --> 00:25:01,933
Speaker 3: It's always the way when they put the phone up

529
00:25:01,933 --> 00:25:03,653
Speaker 3: and then the wind dies down just to that moment

530
00:25:03,773 --> 00:25:04,773
Speaker 3: and then cranks back up.

531
00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:06,653
Speaker 2: I was gonna I was going to create some fake

532
00:25:06,733 --> 00:25:09,413
Speaker 2: news news and make than noise myself and just go

533
00:25:16,253 --> 00:25:17,733
Speaker 2: sounding pretty full on.

534
00:25:17,813 --> 00:25:18,893
Speaker 3: But you've done that before. Mate.

535
00:25:18,893 --> 00:25:21,133
Speaker 2: That's great, but you know that would be fake news.

536
00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:24,493
Speaker 2: It would be Jennet, how are you good?

537
00:25:24,533 --> 00:25:25,533
Speaker 19: Thank you in yourself?

538
00:25:25,893 --> 00:25:27,493
Speaker 3: Very good. How is it at your place?

539
00:25:28,493 --> 00:25:31,213
Speaker 19: I'm in Sonny Henderson in Auckland and it's bringing up

540
00:25:31,213 --> 00:25:32,893
Speaker 19: gale up here as well, believe it or not.

541
00:25:34,213 --> 00:25:36,333
Speaker 3: So we're just looking outside obviously we're in the Auckland

542
00:25:36,413 --> 00:25:38,253
Speaker 3: studio and there's a little bit of sun peeking through

543
00:25:38,253 --> 00:25:40,173
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at some trees across the road and

544
00:25:40,413 --> 00:25:42,333
Speaker 3: and pretty much not a Dickey bird in terms of

545
00:25:42,413 --> 00:25:45,373
Speaker 3: wind gusts. So maybe it's hitting clouds.

546
00:25:45,853 --> 00:25:47,733
Speaker 19: If you look at the clouds in the sun, how

547
00:25:47,773 --> 00:25:50,373
Speaker 19: fast it's blowing. Don't know where you can hear the wind.

548
00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:56,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sounds significant.

549
00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:00,413
Speaker 2: Actually when we when we do look out the windo

550
00:26:00,453 --> 00:26:02,693
Speaker 2: up at the clouds, the clouds are moving. We're in

551
00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:05,813
Speaker 2: some kind of I don't know quite learia here. It's

552
00:26:05,813 --> 00:26:07,973
Speaker 2: pretty it's pretty chill to be honest.

553
00:26:08,053 --> 00:26:11,173
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's going to be okay if I'm heading into

554
00:26:11,173 --> 00:26:13,853
Speaker 19: the city to support my colleagues with the strike. Well

555
00:26:13,893 --> 00:26:17,373
Speaker 19: that nurses need to be respected for our workloads that

556
00:26:17,413 --> 00:26:20,053
Speaker 19: we're having of late. What do you use it horrendous.

557
00:26:20,173 --> 00:26:23,253
Speaker 2: What do you precisely want. I'm just trying to because

558
00:26:23,253 --> 00:26:25,093
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about this the next hour, Jenet.

559
00:26:25,173 --> 00:26:27,213
Speaker 2: So good of you to get in here early. And

560
00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:28,933
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now it's very chill in

561
00:26:28,933 --> 00:26:31,653
Speaker 2: the city where we are, and so we're not far

562
00:26:31,693 --> 00:26:34,693
Speaker 2: from where the strike's taking place. But what is that

563
00:26:34,733 --> 00:26:38,533
Speaker 2: precisely that you want? From a nurse's perspective, Genet.

564
00:26:39,173 --> 00:26:41,333
Speaker 19: It's safe starting at the end of the day. Our

565
00:26:41,373 --> 00:26:44,053
Speaker 19: workloads are horrendous. You can imagine on a night shift,

566
00:26:44,093 --> 00:26:48,293
Speaker 19: one nurse looking after twelve patients and all those patients

567
00:26:48,373 --> 00:26:51,973
Speaker 19: needing assistance all the time, and their government are now

568
00:26:52,013 --> 00:26:54,173
Speaker 19: trying to say to them, well, we have twenty four

569
00:26:54,213 --> 00:26:57,532
Speaker 19: hour relative support. How can you expect a relative to

570
00:26:57,533 --> 00:26:59,613
Speaker 19: take your eighty year old mother to the bathroom who's

571
00:26:59,653 --> 00:27:00,653
Speaker 19: just fractured her fit.

572
00:27:01,493 --> 00:27:02,093
Speaker 7: It's a joke.

573
00:27:02,813 --> 00:27:06,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how many more nurses do you think you need, Genet?

574
00:27:06,933 --> 00:27:10,533
Speaker 19: We need to double our workloads. Thecunity of the patients

575
00:27:10,573 --> 00:27:12,773
Speaker 19: that are coming through our doors in the Auckland area

576
00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:17,733
Speaker 19: and the nationwide worldwide just increasing. People are becoming sicker

577
00:27:22,053 --> 00:27:23,893
Speaker 19: because they kin't afford to go to the GPS to

578
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:25,133
Speaker 19: be treated in the community.

579
00:27:26,413 --> 00:27:29,013
Speaker 3: So it sounds like a multi pronged situation though, doesn't it,

580
00:27:29,093 --> 00:27:31,813
Speaker 3: Jenna and Felthy. I mean, nurses are the best of us, absolutely,

581
00:27:31,853 --> 00:27:35,373
Speaker 3: you do phenomenal work and really trying conditions. But you know,

582
00:27:35,413 --> 00:27:37,173
Speaker 3: it sounds like that if we can sort out the

583
00:27:37,533 --> 00:27:40,533
Speaker 3: GP situation in that first level of how that frees

584
00:27:40,613 --> 00:27:42,173
Speaker 3: up you guys to be able to do your job

585
00:27:42,213 --> 00:27:46,333
Speaker 3: properly without such immense pressure. And you know that's the

586
00:27:46,373 --> 00:27:51,253
Speaker 3: complicated thing about this whole scenario, right focusing on health definitely.

587
00:27:52,133 --> 00:27:53,773
Speaker 19: I mean, okay, it would be nice to have a

588
00:27:53,813 --> 00:27:55,293
Speaker 19: pay rise, but at the end of the day, we

589
00:27:55,333 --> 00:27:57,293
Speaker 19: need to work out the safety of these patients coming

590
00:27:57,333 --> 00:27:59,573
Speaker 19: through the door and not sitting in trolley's in the

591
00:27:59,573 --> 00:28:01,333
Speaker 19: E deep department for four days.

592
00:28:01,733 --> 00:28:05,733
Speaker 2: What's what do you think that there's some admin problems

593
00:28:05,773 --> 00:28:08,173
Speaker 2: going on? Because recently I had a family member that

594
00:28:08,253 --> 00:28:10,453
Speaker 2: was in hospital and they had quite a minor procedure,

595
00:28:10,453 --> 00:28:12,812
Speaker 2: but they were in there for five days and they

596
00:28:12,853 --> 00:28:15,453
Speaker 2: couldn't get checked out, and it just felt to me

597
00:28:15,933 --> 00:28:20,693
Speaker 2: like there were structural problems and everyone we dealt with

598
00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:24,053
Speaker 2: and the hospital was a fantastic human being. I couldn't

599
00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:26,773
Speaker 2: believe a professionalism of every single person that we dealt with,

600
00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:29,173
Speaker 2: But it just felt like it was incredibly hard to

601
00:28:29,213 --> 00:28:32,493
Speaker 2: get this patient through the system and out the door

602
00:28:32,533 --> 00:28:35,653
Speaker 2: for their quite simple procedure.

603
00:28:35,653 --> 00:28:39,253
Speaker 19: In the end, sadly the answers to that, Yes, in

604
00:28:39,333 --> 00:28:40,293
Speaker 19: my belief.

605
00:28:41,573 --> 00:28:44,533
Speaker 2: Is there and is that something that strictly money can

606
00:28:44,573 --> 00:28:47,133
Speaker 2: fix or does there need to be a rethinking of

607
00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:48,533
Speaker 2: how everything works.

608
00:28:49,013 --> 00:28:53,053
Speaker 19: Well, they're doing too many cutbacks and areas that irrelevant,

609
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:56,213
Speaker 19: and then they're employing too many people in top dogs

610
00:28:56,853 --> 00:28:59,933
Speaker 19: but an't on the shop floor. Yeah, take for example,

611
00:28:59,973 --> 00:29:02,613
Speaker 19: war clerks in the emergency department. They're making cutbacks to

612
00:29:02,733 --> 00:29:04,973
Speaker 19: them and expecting the nurses to do the job as

613
00:29:05,013 --> 00:29:06,773
Speaker 19: well as look after the patients.

614
00:29:07,973 --> 00:29:11,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean everyone did seem massively

615
00:29:11,053 --> 00:29:13,653
Speaker 2: over work. There was also a person with no pants

616
00:29:13,693 --> 00:29:16,053
Speaker 2: on walking around causing all kinds of trouble and taking

617
00:29:16,133 --> 00:29:17,933
Speaker 2: up all the time of all the people that were

618
00:29:17,933 --> 00:29:21,013
Speaker 2: trying to work there until the police arrived. So I mean,

619
00:29:21,013 --> 00:29:24,653
Speaker 2: that's not easy to deal with just insane people with

620
00:29:24,813 --> 00:29:25,373
Speaker 2: no pants on.

621
00:29:26,093 --> 00:29:26,333
Speaker 19: Yeah.

622
00:29:26,453 --> 00:29:30,453
Speaker 2: Hey, well I can assure you, Janet that it's peaceful

623
00:29:30,453 --> 00:29:31,853
Speaker 2: in the city weatherwise.

624
00:29:32,773 --> 00:29:33,413
Speaker 17: Well, that's good.

625
00:29:33,653 --> 00:29:37,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, Janet, Yeah, thank you very much for having to

626
00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:39,053
Speaker 3: chat with us. We are going to talk about that

627
00:29:39,213 --> 00:29:41,253
Speaker 3: very shortly as well. If you get heating along to

628
00:29:41,453 --> 00:29:43,813
Speaker 3: the strike, we'd love to hear what do you want

629
00:29:43,853 --> 00:29:45,773
Speaker 3: and will it work? Will you get what you want?

630
00:29:45,893 --> 00:29:47,853
Speaker 3: That is coming up very shortly. But in the meantime,

631
00:29:47,853 --> 00:29:49,613
Speaker 3: I am I missing something. Seriously, She's going to go

632
00:29:49,653 --> 00:29:52,213
Speaker 3: out in this crazy it's lethal out there. Surely there's

633
00:29:52,213 --> 00:29:55,893
Speaker 3: another safe avenue to protest. I can narrowly see a

634
00:29:55,973 --> 00:30:00,053
Speaker 3: leaf fluttering and central. Yeah, I could shake that tree

635
00:30:00,053 --> 00:30:01,333
Speaker 3: more than the winds doing right now.

636
00:30:01,813 --> 00:30:03,573
Speaker 2: This might be the stillest I've ever seen that we

637
00:30:03,733 --> 00:30:06,293
Speaker 2: the I have the storm or something we might.

638
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:08,693
Speaker 3: Be Let's get back to their weather. Jedi hundred and

639
00:30:08,693 --> 00:30:10,853
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. What is it like where you are?

640
00:30:11,093 --> 00:30:13,213
Speaker 3: So many teks coming through on nine to two, nine two,

641
00:30:13,573 --> 00:30:15,613
Speaker 3: but come on through it is eighteen to two.

642
00:30:16,733 --> 00:30:19,853
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eighty ten eighty.

643
00:30:20,093 --> 00:30:23,373
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk said be.

644
00:30:25,333 --> 00:30:28,893
Speaker 3: News News Talk said, be it is a quarter to two.

645
00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:31,733
Speaker 3: So Matt, you're just doing some Edmund, Yeah, it's just

646
00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:33,933
Speaker 3: on the phone to the messes. Yeah, yeah, that's important.

647
00:30:33,973 --> 00:30:36,533
Speaker 3: That is important in the scenario, there's a lot. There's

648
00:30:36,533 --> 00:30:37,173
Speaker 3: a lot going on.

649
00:30:37,213 --> 00:30:38,973
Speaker 2: I like going on with our trip to Christy.

650
00:30:39,093 --> 00:30:42,333
Speaker 3: I could hear I was thing, Yeah, it's frustrating.

651
00:30:41,813 --> 00:30:44,773
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think we're gonna anyway. Let's look to

652
00:30:44,813 --> 00:30:46,693
Speaker 2: the man who cares about my stuff. It's about other people.

653
00:30:46,693 --> 00:30:49,453
Speaker 3: Why I care about your stuff? But let's yeah, we've got.

654
00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:50,773
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Yeah, I care about your stuff.

655
00:30:50,813 --> 00:30:52,213
Speaker 3: Thank you mate. And it's hot on the phone, so

656
00:30:52,293 --> 00:30:54,293
Speaker 3: let's have a chat to Dunny. How are you mate?

657
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,653
Speaker 10: Yeah, good boys, we're.

658
00:30:56,533 --> 00:30:58,613
Speaker 2: About to use the village.

659
00:30:59,133 --> 00:31:02,373
Speaker 10: Oh yes, great el Pine Highway number seventy three, Tyler.

660
00:31:02,453 --> 00:31:05,973
Speaker 10: You'll know with this is we're at about probably twenty

661
00:31:06,053 --> 00:31:09,813
Speaker 10: seven hundred feet above sea level. We've got all manner

662
00:31:09,853 --> 00:31:12,493
Speaker 10: of weather events at the moment. We've got the wind,

663
00:31:12,613 --> 00:31:16,693
Speaker 10: the rain, the thunder, orential rain, howling winds. It seems

664
00:31:16,693 --> 00:31:19,973
Speaker 10: to be coming in surges, flick it on and off.

665
00:31:20,013 --> 00:31:23,373
Speaker 10: But so far, so good. And I actually think probably

666
00:31:23,413 --> 00:31:27,413
Speaker 10: it's a little worst down country Springfield, Dartfield, horror Rat

667
00:31:27,533 --> 00:31:31,213
Speaker 10: or Oxford than what we actually have here. Maybe the

668
00:31:31,373 --> 00:31:34,373
Speaker 10: Northwest is ripping over the top of us as it

669
00:31:34,413 --> 00:31:37,053
Speaker 10: tends to blow out of the gorges and down over

670
00:31:37,053 --> 00:31:37,933
Speaker 10: the plains. You see.

671
00:31:38,053 --> 00:31:40,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a massive wind tunnel through there. Sonny,

672
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:45,213
Speaker 3: can you get into Castle Hill? As I understand it,

673
00:31:45,213 --> 00:31:47,413
Speaker 3: it's all closed heading towards the west coast. I think

674
00:31:47,413 --> 00:31:49,533
Speaker 3: they've shut it from from the gorge, haven't they.

675
00:31:49,893 --> 00:31:54,093
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think they have. The highway's not busy. I

676
00:31:54,133 --> 00:31:56,853
Speaker 10: haven't heard any vehicles, so I'm assuming that that is

677
00:31:56,853 --> 00:31:59,773
Speaker 10: the situation. I'm just looking up at all these peak

678
00:31:59,813 --> 00:32:04,533
Speaker 10: on the Craigieburn Range. It's just next to Mount Iseside.

679
00:32:04,573 --> 00:32:07,013
Speaker 10: In the last of the winter. Snow's going pretty quickly

680
00:32:07,053 --> 00:32:12,293
Speaker 10: in this it's mild weather. You know, it's spring in

681
00:32:12,333 --> 00:32:13,293
Speaker 10: New Zealand, isn't it.

682
00:32:13,493 --> 00:32:16,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you go. You stay safe. Doney in Castle Hill.

683
00:32:16,293 --> 00:32:18,093
Speaker 3: Village, beautiful spot, Castle Hill.

684
00:32:18,213 --> 00:32:22,173
Speaker 2: Oh now vers Linley, Welcome to the show. So I

685
00:32:22,253 --> 00:32:25,293
Speaker 2: understand there's there's a bit going on down your way.

686
00:32:25,973 --> 00:32:27,973
Speaker 20: It's a bit blowy, a bit blowy. I mean, we've

687
00:32:27,973 --> 00:32:30,733
Speaker 20: been used to wind, but this is this is beyond.

688
00:32:31,133 --> 00:32:32,893
Speaker 20: I mean I was talking to somebody that's lived all

689
00:32:32,933 --> 00:32:36,213
Speaker 20: their life in in Chicago and they can't remember wind

690
00:32:36,333 --> 00:32:40,333
Speaker 20: like this, and we've got. I just traveled between in

691
00:32:40,453 --> 00:32:44,133
Speaker 20: Bicago and part way to Gore. Now it was like

692
00:32:44,453 --> 00:32:47,973
Speaker 20: you just could not see the road. And watching trees

693
00:32:48,093 --> 00:32:51,133
Speaker 20: being torn out of the ground, roots and all, and

694
00:32:51,613 --> 00:32:55,893
Speaker 20: branches falling down is just phenomenal. There is debris across

695
00:32:55,933 --> 00:32:58,493
Speaker 20: the road. There were two trucks that I saw that

696
00:32:58,573 --> 00:33:02,613
Speaker 20: had overturned into ditches, plus the trailer a large truck,

697
00:33:03,173 --> 00:33:08,853
Speaker 20: and it's just horrific. Nearly every intersection where there are

698
00:33:08,853 --> 00:33:11,413
Speaker 20: trees around. Of course we're we're a garden city where

699
00:33:11,693 --> 00:33:17,933
Speaker 20: where these beautiful trees. Council have closed the parks.

700
00:33:17,693 --> 00:33:19,173
Speaker 10: Right because trees are coming.

701
00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:24,053
Speaker 20: Down, literally coming down routes and all, and it's just phenomenal.

702
00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:28,533
Speaker 20: I think your producer says, something is going on down there. Yeah,

703
00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:32,373
Speaker 20: there is, and you kind of watch your neighbor's window

704
00:33:32,493 --> 00:33:35,453
Speaker 20: or shed roof or whatever. But you know, my advice

705
00:33:35,533 --> 00:33:38,573
Speaker 20: to anybody who lives in Chicago or Southland, stay home.

706
00:33:38,813 --> 00:33:40,693
Speaker 2: How come you were? How come you had to get

707
00:33:40,693 --> 00:33:41,653
Speaker 2: on the road up to.

708
00:33:42,173 --> 00:33:45,253
Speaker 20: Up to because I'm a celebrant and I needed to

709
00:33:45,253 --> 00:33:48,013
Speaker 20: go and see a DFM that had lost the soul.

710
00:33:49,013 --> 00:33:51,053
Speaker 20: But I only got halfway there and came back home

711
00:33:51,093 --> 00:33:52,893
Speaker 20: again and anyway, it turned out that there was a

712
00:33:52,933 --> 00:33:55,973
Speaker 20: power cut and gore so but it was you just

713
00:33:56,093 --> 00:33:57,453
Speaker 20: could not drive in it.

714
00:33:57,653 --> 00:33:58,053
Speaker 14: Literally.

715
00:33:58,253 --> 00:34:00,333
Speaker 20: Mind you, I'm a bit of a thrill seeker, and

716
00:34:00,373 --> 00:34:02,373
Speaker 20: I must admit by the time I got safety back

717
00:34:02,413 --> 00:34:04,613
Speaker 20: to in Vicago, I was thinking, oh god, that was amazing.

718
00:34:06,093 --> 00:34:08,372
Speaker 20: I'm just not a person that if you if you

719
00:34:08,453 --> 00:34:10,172
Speaker 20: drive a car, you drive it like you stole it

720
00:34:10,453 --> 00:34:11,933
Speaker 20: or you're escaping from somebody.

721
00:34:12,053 --> 00:34:14,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, they make them touchdown your way. Linley, you know

722
00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:16,453
Speaker 3: that you guys are out the gate and I love it.

723
00:34:16,493 --> 00:34:18,493
Speaker 2: You're the kind of celebrant I want. It's my next

724
00:34:18,893 --> 00:34:24,813
Speaker 2: major life Please, thank you very much, the storm chasing celebrant.

725
00:34:24,813 --> 00:34:25,493
Speaker 3: How good was she?

726
00:34:25,773 --> 00:34:27,253
Speaker 2: Lindley from Vicago.

727
00:34:27,653 --> 00:34:29,373
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number

728
00:34:29,373 --> 00:34:31,893
Speaker 3: to cour We're just getting some updates from officials in

729
00:34:31,933 --> 00:34:34,333
Speaker 3: regards to the weather. So the latest coming through Queenstown

730
00:34:34,413 --> 00:34:37,413
Speaker 3: Lakes District has set up in emergency Operations Center in

731
00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:41,013
Speaker 3: tandem with Emergency Management of Tago to prepare for localized flooding.

732
00:34:41,053 --> 00:34:44,853
Speaker 3: So there are sandbags available at the Queenstown Waterfront and

733
00:34:45,053 --> 00:34:48,893
Speaker 3: in Kingston if you need them to Bailcluther, Volunteer Fire Brigades,

734
00:34:48,973 --> 00:34:51,413
Speaker 3: his stay indoors and to keep safe. The team are

735
00:34:51,453 --> 00:34:54,172
Speaker 3: busy with lifting roofs and a truck rollover, so keep

736
00:34:54,173 --> 00:34:57,813
Speaker 3: off the roads and less extremely necessary. And just finally,

737
00:34:58,133 --> 00:35:00,093
Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell will be doing a stand up on the

738
00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:02,172
Speaker 3: Canterbury weather situation. At quarter to four.

739
00:35:02,573 --> 00:35:05,493
Speaker 2: The stick says, I've just applied sunblock in Leamington. So

740
00:35:05,573 --> 00:35:09,213
Speaker 2: there you go, going well in Leamington. Long thin country

741
00:35:09,213 --> 00:35:11,573
Speaker 2: with lots of different microsit where the.

742
00:35:11,453 --> 00:35:12,533
Speaker 3: System certainly is.

743
00:35:14,053 --> 00:35:17,213
Speaker 4: Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on. Oh eight

744
00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:18,453
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty.

745
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:21,693
Speaker 1: It's mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

746
00:35:21,893 --> 00:35:24,853
Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon to you. It is eight two

747
00:35:24,893 --> 00:35:27,373
Speaker 3: to two and we are talking about the major storm

748
00:35:27,373 --> 00:35:30,613
Speaker 3: that is weeping up and down the country as we speak,

749
00:35:30,653 --> 00:35:33,013
Speaker 3: and we keen to know what's happening where if you're

750
00:35:33,053 --> 00:35:35,252
Speaker 3: listening in the country. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

751
00:35:35,293 --> 00:35:36,573
Speaker 3: is that number to call if you want to send

752
00:35:36,613 --> 00:35:40,333
Speaker 3: a text. Nine to ninety two is that number. So

753
00:35:40,453 --> 00:35:44,213
Speaker 3: many texts coming through this one in Taranaki. Get a

754
00:35:44,213 --> 00:35:46,533
Speaker 3: guy who's been traveling around a bit today, it's foggy

755
00:35:46,653 --> 00:35:49,773
Speaker 3: and a little wet, but hardly any wind here so

756
00:35:49,933 --> 00:35:51,293
Speaker 3: far fingers crossed.

757
00:35:52,053 --> 00:35:52,973
Speaker 2: Let's go to Meg.

758
00:35:53,613 --> 00:35:56,653
Speaker 4: We're about to you Makesle in Auckland.

759
00:35:56,693 --> 00:35:58,772
Speaker 16: But I've had a call from my dad. He's down

760
00:35:58,853 --> 00:36:03,013
Speaker 16: in why Tahunah on State Highway eight. Lawrence's from Lawrence

761
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:07,373
Speaker 16: Lovely Lovely bed lost part of their roof. Ah, but

762
00:36:07,453 --> 00:36:09,453
Speaker 16: then the last forty five minutes have had a big

763
00:36:09,733 --> 00:36:13,732
Speaker 16: They lost power first, then they lost part of their roof.

764
00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:17,212
Speaker 16: The historic church on the property is okay, the roof

765
00:36:17,293 --> 00:36:17,813
Speaker 16: is secure.

766
00:36:17,933 --> 00:36:21,973
Speaker 2: Well, that's good to hear. And he is he safe inside?

767
00:36:22,053 --> 00:36:23,853
Speaker 2: And and I think that's today.

768
00:36:24,173 --> 00:36:27,093
Speaker 16: But he's seventy eight years old and waiting for the

769
00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:28,853
Speaker 16: fire brigade to come and give him a hand because

770
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,853
Speaker 16: they've got to try and get that roof secured. I

771
00:36:31,853 --> 00:36:34,893
Speaker 16: don't know how many sheets of tim they've lost, he says,

772
00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:35,533
Speaker 16: it's about ten.

773
00:36:36,253 --> 00:36:36,773
Speaker 14: They're gone.

774
00:36:36,853 --> 00:36:39,652
Speaker 2: What was the roof on? Like, what what was that roof?

775
00:36:40,013 --> 00:36:40,813
Speaker 2: What roof flew off?

776
00:36:42,093 --> 00:36:43,053
Speaker 16: The roof on the hall?

777
00:36:43,253 --> 00:36:47,853
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right? What what sort of is this all on?

778
00:36:47,893 --> 00:36:49,493
Speaker 2: Has one property?

779
00:36:49,653 --> 00:36:52,053
Speaker 16: Yes, there's the old church hall and they have a

780
00:36:53,053 --> 00:36:55,773
Speaker 16: little granny flat within that building, and then you have

781
00:36:55,853 --> 00:36:58,093
Speaker 16: the historic church which has been converted to live in

782
00:36:58,253 --> 00:36:59,133
Speaker 16: what a great place.

783
00:36:59,253 --> 00:37:00,493
Speaker 2: Sounds like a cool set up.

784
00:37:00,493 --> 00:37:03,293
Speaker 16: Fantastic place. But I think he's a bit shaken. My

785
00:37:03,373 --> 00:37:07,693
Speaker 16: mum says, okay, but yeah, it's hard going to be

786
00:37:07,693 --> 00:37:08,212
Speaker 16: the hard thing.

787
00:37:08,373 --> 00:37:09,413
Speaker 2: It's hard to be at the other end of the

788
00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:12,013
Speaker 2: country when that kind of stuff's happening with Mum and Dad.

789
00:37:12,013 --> 00:37:13,533
Speaker 4: I bet it is.

790
00:37:13,693 --> 00:37:15,213
Speaker 16: Yeah, I wish I would down.

791
00:37:15,093 --> 00:37:15,573
Speaker 21: There to help.

792
00:37:15,853 --> 00:37:18,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as long as he's staying indoors and

793
00:37:18,253 --> 00:37:19,893
Speaker 3: not trying to sort it out himself, I think that's

794
00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:21,933
Speaker 3: the wise advice there is. Wait for the for the

795
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:24,652
Speaker 3: boys to come through from the fire brigade, because it

796
00:37:24,733 --> 00:37:26,573
Speaker 3: all gets a bit hectic if you try and sort

797
00:37:26,573 --> 00:37:29,053
Speaker 3: it out yourself, right, I all it.

798
00:37:29,013 --> 00:37:31,493
Speaker 16: Is, yes, And I think also the Manuca Gorge Highway

799
00:37:31,573 --> 00:37:33,813
Speaker 16: is closed because Dadsy is out on the main road.

800
00:37:33,853 --> 00:37:36,453
Speaker 16: They've got their turning people away. They're not letting them

801
00:37:36,493 --> 00:37:36,933
Speaker 16: down there.

802
00:37:37,493 --> 00:37:40,173
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, all the best to your pearans and hopefully

803
00:37:40,413 --> 00:37:43,333
Speaker 3: the volunteer fire Brigade yeah, turn up soon. But it

804
00:37:43,373 --> 00:37:45,973
Speaker 3: sounds like it's all going on in White to Hunah

805
00:37:46,413 --> 00:37:48,652
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Is that nobody here?

806
00:37:48,813 --> 00:37:50,933
Speaker 3: Thank you Meig, lovely to hear from you.

807
00:37:51,053 --> 00:37:51,333
Speaker 15: Mark.

808
00:37:51,373 --> 00:37:53,253
Speaker 2: You're in Winton, is that correct?

809
00:37:54,453 --> 00:37:58,813
Speaker 22: I'm coming home from one and year. That's my tractus

810
00:37:58,853 --> 00:38:01,253
Speaker 22: down here. I have not seen winds of weather like

811
00:38:01,293 --> 00:38:05,973
Speaker 22: this for a very long long time. There's multiple trees

812
00:38:06,013 --> 00:38:08,893
Speaker 22: now all over the farming area and all through the

813
00:38:08,933 --> 00:38:11,453
Speaker 22: offenses and stuff like that. I've pulled over because the winds.

814
00:38:11,453 --> 00:38:13,973
Speaker 22: That Dad, and there's a truck, a couple of trucks

815
00:38:14,013 --> 00:38:17,172
Speaker 22: up the road that pulled over. I hope we've at

816
00:38:17,253 --> 00:38:19,373
Speaker 22: least got one hundred and fifty k wins down here.

817
00:38:19,853 --> 00:38:24,053
Speaker 3: Wow there, I mean that is that is noise?

818
00:38:24,093 --> 00:38:24,773
Speaker 2: Are we gusting?

819
00:38:27,253 --> 00:38:30,613
Speaker 22: I would open my windows, but I'm afraid I'll probably

820
00:38:30,613 --> 00:38:32,613
Speaker 22: get three months worth the rain come through the winter.

821
00:38:32,933 --> 00:38:34,933
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you're in the four wheel drive at the moment.

822
00:38:35,013 --> 00:38:36,013
Speaker 3: How's that handling?

823
00:38:36,053 --> 00:38:36,133
Speaker 23: It?

824
00:38:36,253 --> 00:38:37,813
Speaker 3: Is it swaying aside to side a little bit?

825
00:38:38,973 --> 00:38:39,172
Speaker 17: Yeah?

826
00:38:39,213 --> 00:38:41,652
Speaker 22: Well yeah, So most of the traffic I've stuck behind

827
00:38:41,813 --> 00:38:45,373
Speaker 22: was doing about seventy sixty five ks now, so they've

828
00:38:45,413 --> 00:38:47,733
Speaker 22: closing parents. I've had to get home, so they're closing

829
00:38:48,253 --> 00:38:51,413
Speaker 22: roads off out of them, but cargo towards this way

830
00:38:51,893 --> 00:38:56,373
Speaker 22: and also out towards Galway as well. There will be

831
00:38:56,413 --> 00:38:58,613
Speaker 22: a few diehards. Probably had a ready beach because it's

832
00:38:58,613 --> 00:38:59,613
Speaker 22: a beach you can drive on.

833
00:38:59,813 --> 00:39:03,013
Speaker 17: Oh yeah yeah.

834
00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:06,453
Speaker 10: So anyway, so that that's there, let's oll we do we.

835
00:39:06,573 --> 00:39:08,773
Speaker 2: Good on your Mark, thanks for the update to kill

836
00:39:08,853 --> 00:39:10,813
Speaker 2: me to our winds not far.

837
00:39:10,653 --> 00:39:12,973
Speaker 3: From wind Yes, stay safe down there, Mark, thanks for

838
00:39:12,973 --> 00:39:14,453
Speaker 3: giving us a buzz maybe throat.

839
00:39:14,613 --> 00:39:18,493
Speaker 2: There's a gentle Norise Zipha blowing in christchitch the sticks.

840
00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:20,453
Speaker 3: It's beautifully written. That sounds nice.

841
00:39:20,613 --> 00:39:22,093
Speaker 2: How come all the flights have been canceled?

842
00:39:22,253 --> 00:39:24,373
Speaker 3: How do you describe a ziya? Is a zifa just

843
00:39:24,373 --> 00:39:25,133
Speaker 3: a gentle breeze?

844
00:39:25,173 --> 00:39:25,373
Speaker 5: Is it?

845
00:39:26,293 --> 00:39:30,493
Speaker 2: Well, that's a great vehicle, yeah, I think is. What

846
00:39:30,613 --> 00:39:34,693
Speaker 2: is a zepha? A nice warm, sort of mild, pleasant

847
00:39:35,093 --> 00:39:36,333
Speaker 2: sort of breeze, I believe.

848
00:39:36,373 --> 00:39:37,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to get to the bottom of that.

849
00:39:39,053 --> 00:39:41,613
Speaker 3: Moving on from with a chat, Yeah yeah, I think so,

850
00:39:41,733 --> 00:39:43,013
Speaker 3: because a lot of people want to have a chat

851
00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:45,652
Speaker 3: about this bigger strike as well. So that is coming

852
00:39:45,733 --> 00:39:48,293
Speaker 3: up after two o'clock. If you're heading along to the strike,

853
00:39:48,533 --> 00:39:50,453
Speaker 3: really can you hear from you? And also do you

854
00:39:50,613 --> 00:39:51,893
Speaker 3: think you'll get what you want?

855
00:39:51,893 --> 00:39:54,533
Speaker 2: And what do you actually want And for those that

856
00:39:54,573 --> 00:39:56,933
Speaker 2: are affected by the weather, stay safe out.

857
00:39:56,813 --> 00:40:00,453
Speaker 3: There, yep, look pu yeah, absolutely new sport and weather

858
00:40:00,533 --> 00:40:04,013
Speaker 3: coming up and if anything changes in that major storm situation,

859
00:40:04,133 --> 00:40:06,493
Speaker 3: you will hear it here first. We can promise here

860
00:40:06,853 --> 00:40:08,973
Speaker 3: that stay right here. Will be back very surely.

861
00:40:12,493 --> 00:40:16,333
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

862
00:40:16,373 --> 00:40:18,133
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

863
00:40:18,173 --> 00:40:21,813
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon here. It is six past two.

864
00:40:21,933 --> 00:40:24,293
Speaker 3: Hope you're doing okay out there if you're listening in

865
00:40:24,333 --> 00:40:27,453
Speaker 3: the country. And just a reminder as well, if there's

866
00:40:27,493 --> 00:40:30,013
Speaker 3: breaking or developing news that comes to hand as this

867
00:40:30,133 --> 00:40:33,172
Speaker 3: major storm sweeps up and down the country, you will

868
00:40:33,173 --> 00:40:35,493
Speaker 3: hear it here first. We'll keep bringing you updates as

869
00:40:35,493 --> 00:40:38,893
Speaker 3: the afternoon progresses. And a reminder Mark Mitchell will be

870
00:40:38,933 --> 00:40:41,693
Speaker 3: doing a stand up at quarter to four in regards

871
00:40:41,693 --> 00:40:44,172
Speaker 3: to the state of emergency in Canterbury. So that's all

872
00:40:44,213 --> 00:40:47,413
Speaker 3: coming up. But in the meantime, the other major story

873
00:40:47,413 --> 00:40:48,212
Speaker 3: of today is.

874
00:40:48,133 --> 00:40:49,733
Speaker 2: The soap bag going to Foxton.

875
00:40:50,013 --> 00:40:52,292
Speaker 3: Oh hopefully yeah, the night of the right major story.

876
00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:54,133
Speaker 3: That is a massive, major story. But I think he's

877
00:40:54,213 --> 00:40:55,973
Speaker 3: hunkering down, he's getting the tent set up.

878
00:40:56,093 --> 00:40:59,252
Speaker 2: No, no update, Just an update if you're listening. Last

879
00:40:59,293 --> 00:41:02,013
Speaker 2: night at last hour Haybag it was the original night

880
00:41:02,053 --> 00:41:04,253
Speaker 2: of the road was heading to Foxton. Said there was

881
00:41:04,333 --> 00:41:06,053
Speaker 2: quite a lot of weather out there, the most weather

882
00:41:06,093 --> 00:41:08,093
Speaker 2: I'd ever seen before. Just an update. My brother in

883
00:41:08,173 --> 00:41:10,533
Speaker 2: law Haybag made it to Foxton. We'll have a few

884
00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:11,573
Speaker 2: beers to Karma's nerves.

885
00:41:12,013 --> 00:41:14,013
Speaker 3: You Haybag, you absolute legends.

886
00:41:14,453 --> 00:41:16,493
Speaker 2: So sorry, just need to update that it's going to

887
00:41:16,493 --> 00:41:17,253
Speaker 2: continue on his.

888
00:41:17,333 --> 00:41:19,293
Speaker 3: Lovely wife Pam will be very happy as well, So

889
00:41:19,293 --> 00:41:21,213
Speaker 3: good on your Haybag. Let's have a chat about this

890
00:41:21,373 --> 00:41:24,773
Speaker 3: mega strike. So, as we know, doctors, nurses, teachers, prison

891
00:41:24,813 --> 00:41:28,652
Speaker 3: staff and other healthcare personnel have walked off the job

892
00:41:28,813 --> 00:41:30,973
Speaker 3: in many parts of the country today. It's fair to

893
00:41:31,013 --> 00:41:33,533
Speaker 3: say the weather has put a dampner on that strike

894
00:41:33,613 --> 00:41:35,933
Speaker 3: in some parts of the Lower North and the South Island,

895
00:41:35,933 --> 00:41:38,853
Speaker 3: but in Auckland it appears to be taking place. So

896
00:41:38,893 --> 00:41:43,413
Speaker 3: it also includes dentist, social workers, physiotherapists and mental health staff.

897
00:41:43,453 --> 00:41:46,573
Speaker 3: As originally it was estimated one hundred thousand workers would

898
00:41:46,613 --> 00:41:48,973
Speaker 3: be walking off the job today. But we want to

899
00:41:49,013 --> 00:41:50,853
Speaker 3: hear from you if you are hitting down or you're

900
00:41:50,893 --> 00:41:52,772
Speaker 3: at the strike as we speak O. Eight one hundred

901
00:41:52,813 --> 00:41:56,652
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty And will this actually fix what

902
00:41:56,693 --> 00:41:58,613
Speaker 3: you think is broken? Will you get what you were

903
00:41:58,653 --> 00:41:59,293
Speaker 3: asking for?

904
00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:04,853
Speaker 2: Yeah? Will the strike work? And what exactly is wanted?

905
00:42:05,373 --> 00:42:07,293
Speaker 2: So I've been looking at that a little bit, you know,

906
00:42:07,413 --> 00:42:10,413
Speaker 2: So work out withere or strike works. You know, you

907
00:42:10,533 --> 00:42:12,533
Speaker 2: have to have things you want and you have to

908
00:42:12,533 --> 00:42:15,973
Speaker 2: get them right. Yeah, pay increase. Teachers want to pay increase.

909
00:42:16,053 --> 00:42:18,493
Speaker 2: The pay increase being offered is still below current and

910
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:20,692
Speaker 2: projected rates of inflation. This is what the teachers are

911
00:42:20,693 --> 00:42:24,013
Speaker 2: asking for. Salary and conditions to attracting more teachers. That

912
00:42:24,053 --> 00:42:27,413
Speaker 2: the teachers. Colleges are rammed with people at the moment, though,

913
00:42:27,453 --> 00:42:29,053
Speaker 2: aren't they. There's a lot a lot of people wanting

914
00:42:29,093 --> 00:42:29,652
Speaker 2: to become teaching.

915
00:42:29,733 --> 00:42:30,493
Speaker 3: That was my understanding.

916
00:42:30,573 --> 00:42:33,453
Speaker 2: Yes, So that one's going well for them. Limit the

917
00:42:33,533 --> 00:42:38,333
Speaker 2: changing of requirements, more pastoral staffing to take the pressure

918
00:42:38,373 --> 00:42:42,813
Speaker 2: off the teachers and address the teacher shortage. That's what

919
00:42:42,853 --> 00:42:43,212
Speaker 2: they want.

920
00:42:43,733 --> 00:42:47,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, But again to your point about the detail in

921
00:42:47,653 --> 00:42:49,933
Speaker 3: what exactly has been asked for here. So I get

922
00:42:49,933 --> 00:42:52,853
Speaker 3: the pay increase one, and I think that's somewhat specific.

923
00:42:52,933 --> 00:42:54,773
Speaker 3: The pay increase being offered is still below current and

924
00:42:54,813 --> 00:42:55,933
Speaker 3: projected rates of inflation.

925
00:42:56,373 --> 00:42:56,973
Speaker 2: But you've got to.

926
00:42:56,933 --> 00:42:59,053
Speaker 3: Talk numbers, don't you. And I know we're focusing on

927
00:42:59,053 --> 00:43:01,573
Speaker 3: the teachers here, but a similar situation with the healthcare workers.

928
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:06,133
Speaker 3: So they talk about understaffing, increase those needing mental health treatment,

929
00:43:06,373 --> 00:43:09,253
Speaker 3: no increase in resourcing and stuff and that apartment. And

930
00:43:09,293 --> 00:43:11,613
Speaker 3: also they double down on the knee for pay rises

931
00:43:11,653 --> 00:43:12,893
Speaker 3: as well. So there was a lot there.

932
00:43:13,693 --> 00:43:18,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, this says I'd say on the nurses and teachers.

933
00:43:18,213 --> 00:43:21,093
Speaker 2: Sacked a lot of them, says Gus. I mean that

934
00:43:21,093 --> 00:43:23,252
Speaker 2: would be, that would be, that would be a lot

935
00:43:23,293 --> 00:43:25,413
Speaker 2: if we sacked all of the doctors and teachers. Oh,

936
00:43:25,533 --> 00:43:27,493
Speaker 2: just teachers, the nurses. I'm a farmer, and if I

937
00:43:27,573 --> 00:43:29,893
Speaker 2: decided to strike, I'd be sacked. Work hard and be

938
00:43:29,933 --> 00:43:32,213
Speaker 2: proud to do so. Stop looking for an easier way

939
00:43:32,493 --> 00:43:35,252
Speaker 2: to live your working life. You get to choose stay

940
00:43:35,293 --> 00:43:37,813
Speaker 2: at work and serve your people as you wanted, not

941
00:43:37,893 --> 00:43:41,333
Speaker 2: happy leave. You're all pathetic and way too soft. Cheers fellas,

942
00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:42,013
Speaker 2: that's from Gus.

943
00:43:42,093 --> 00:43:46,813
Speaker 3: Nice include us what you're all pathetic and way too soft?

944
00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:52,453
Speaker 3: Well hopefully maybe maybe, I mean yeah, but yeah, Gus

945
00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:55,213
Speaker 3: is sacked a lot of them. There's quite full on.

946
00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:58,293
Speaker 3: I mean, if all those workers got sacked, I think

947
00:43:58,333 --> 00:43:59,853
Speaker 3: this country would be in a hell of a lot

948
00:43:59,893 --> 00:44:00,293
Speaker 3: of trouble.

949
00:44:00,373 --> 00:44:03,773
Speaker 2: It's an interesting situation though, because the pay rise that

950
00:44:03,813 --> 00:44:07,373
Speaker 2: they're asking for, and they're more expenditure they're asking for.

951
00:44:08,173 --> 00:44:10,613
Speaker 2: It's it's a bit different than if you're it's a

952
00:44:10,973 --> 00:44:13,613
Speaker 2: obviously it's a private company. It's different, right, Yeah, you're

953
00:44:13,653 --> 00:44:16,853
Speaker 2: asking for more money, so more profits need to be

954
00:44:16,853 --> 00:44:19,173
Speaker 2: made to come to the company, or you're more valuable

955
00:44:19,173 --> 00:44:20,573
Speaker 2: for the company, so they think they can make more

956
00:44:20,613 --> 00:44:23,773
Speaker 2: money by having you there, right, yep. So it's different

957
00:44:23,813 --> 00:44:26,533
Speaker 2: when you're striking and you're asking for more because you're

958
00:44:26,573 --> 00:44:29,773
Speaker 2: asking more from the taxpayer basically and the government and

959
00:44:29,773 --> 00:44:32,253
Speaker 2: their limited pool than as we all know, that country

960
00:44:32,453 --> 00:44:35,493
Speaker 2: isn't exactly a rockstar economy at the moment.

961
00:44:35,573 --> 00:44:35,812
Speaker 15: Yep.

962
00:44:35,933 --> 00:44:38,293
Speaker 3: Nicely said. So, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

963
00:44:38,373 --> 00:44:41,933
Speaker 3: the number to call? Do you think this strike will work?

964
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:43,973
Speaker 3: Love to hear your thoughts. Nine two ninety two is

965
00:44:44,013 --> 00:44:47,693
Speaker 3: the text number. It is eleven past two back very shortly.

966
00:44:47,693 --> 00:44:50,573
Speaker 3: You listening to Matt and Tyler Wow your.

967
00:44:50,453 --> 00:44:54,772
Speaker 1: Home of afternoon Talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call.

968
00:44:54,933 --> 00:44:57,573
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

969
00:44:59,573 --> 00:45:02,093
Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. It's fourteen past two, So we're talking

970
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,853
Speaker 3: about the so called Omega strike. Do you think it

971
00:45:04,853 --> 00:45:07,453
Speaker 3: will work? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number?

972
00:45:07,613 --> 00:45:11,853
Speaker 2: Gus sack them all, he's a farmer. Get a Matt

973
00:45:11,853 --> 00:45:13,853
Speaker 2: and Tyler agree with Gus. Bloody, get on with it.

974
00:45:14,573 --> 00:45:17,853
Speaker 2: This one. I with Gus. Sack them all and enter

975
00:45:17,893 --> 00:45:21,413
Speaker 2: into individual hiring. So there's a lot of support for

976
00:45:21,813 --> 00:45:23,013
Speaker 2: Gus to sack them all.

977
00:45:23,653 --> 00:45:24,493
Speaker 3: But a bold move.

978
00:45:24,733 --> 00:45:27,533
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the practicality of sacking all the nurses,

979
00:45:27,613 --> 00:45:28,893
Speaker 2: doctors and teachers in the country.

980
00:45:28,973 --> 00:45:32,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred thousands workers. That would be quite something.

981
00:45:33,213 --> 00:45:35,373
Speaker 3: There would be a bold move. It would be a statement.

982
00:45:35,853 --> 00:45:38,292
Speaker 2: So it would be But this Texas says, please mention

983
00:45:38,853 --> 00:45:41,293
Speaker 2: the tax cuts last year. We're equivalent of one percent

984
00:45:41,373 --> 00:45:44,573
Speaker 2: net pay rise for one hundred k salary. It's an

985
00:45:44,613 --> 00:45:47,493
Speaker 2: after tax rise, so equivalent of one point three percent

986
00:45:47,613 --> 00:45:51,013
Speaker 2: gross pay rise. They never mentioned that. Okay, okay, there

987
00:45:51,013 --> 00:45:51,213
Speaker 2: you go.

988
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:52,253
Speaker 3: Take you right that one.

989
00:45:52,733 --> 00:45:54,973
Speaker 2: Ben, Welcome to the show. Do you think these strikes

990
00:45:55,013 --> 00:45:56,413
Speaker 2: are going to work. How are they affecting you?

991
00:45:58,333 --> 00:46:01,692
Speaker 9: I'm actually starting together but annoyed at the teachers. It's

992
00:46:01,733 --> 00:46:02,973
Speaker 9: not the first time I was there to take a

993
00:46:03,053 --> 00:46:06,133
Speaker 9: day off work unpaid this year, and that seems like

994
00:46:06,213 --> 00:46:10,692
Speaker 9: there's one or two next month for planned And yeah,

995
00:46:10,933 --> 00:46:13,172
Speaker 9: I think you paid to do a job, you do it.

996
00:46:13,493 --> 00:46:15,213
Speaker 9: I'll work in the private sector. I've got a one

997
00:46:15,253 --> 00:46:17,813
Speaker 9: percent pay rise. These guys have been off at two

998
00:46:17,813 --> 00:46:21,573
Speaker 9: point three. They've turned it down, Like, come on, greedy.

999
00:46:22,773 --> 00:46:25,533
Speaker 2: Do you have any sympathy for their other demands? They're

1000
00:46:26,253 --> 00:46:30,333
Speaker 2: you know, the the more pastoral staff, the you know,

1001
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:34,893
Speaker 2: the class sizes. They're just essentially around the conditions that

1002
00:46:34,933 --> 00:46:35,653
Speaker 2: they have to work in.

1003
00:46:37,173 --> 00:46:37,293
Speaker 10: Oh.

1004
00:46:37,413 --> 00:46:39,573
Speaker 9: Look, the conditions are defer thing, you know, not what

1005
00:46:39,693 --> 00:46:43,053
Speaker 9: anyone wants, but it is what it is. Like, we're

1006
00:46:43,453 --> 00:46:45,773
Speaker 9: we're down staff at the moment. Our company can't afford

1007
00:46:45,813 --> 00:46:48,573
Speaker 9: to hire more. Our workloads you know through the roof.

1008
00:46:48,693 --> 00:46:51,733
Speaker 9: But we've just got to suck it up and do

1009
00:46:51,773 --> 00:46:53,573
Speaker 9: it until times get better and we can.

1010
00:46:54,493 --> 00:46:56,493
Speaker 3: So do you think it will work, the strike will work,

1011
00:46:56,573 --> 00:46:59,053
Speaker 3: or do you think this may go the other way?

1012
00:46:59,133 --> 00:47:01,213
Speaker 3: That more people are feeling like you ben that this

1013
00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:05,853
Speaker 3: is starting to turn against you know, traditional careers that

1014
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:06,853
Speaker 3: we've long respected.

1015
00:47:08,093 --> 00:47:11,573
Speaker 9: I think it's getting to the point that people are

1016
00:47:11,573 --> 00:47:13,373
Speaker 9: getting a bit frustrated and they're going to have to

1017
00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:16,293
Speaker 9: load their demands. But then also the government's going to

1018
00:47:16,373 --> 00:47:19,533
Speaker 9: have to come up. But when everyone in the private sect,

1019
00:47:19,853 --> 00:47:21,733
Speaker 9: no one got close and they paid rise to what

1020
00:47:21,773 --> 00:47:24,613
Speaker 9: they demandey, I would say, if it's off in the

1021
00:47:24,613 --> 00:47:27,253
Speaker 9: budget to pay them more, pay them more. But if

1022
00:47:27,253 --> 00:47:29,172
Speaker 9: it's not, we don't want to be buying money as

1023
00:47:29,213 --> 00:47:31,853
Speaker 9: a country and paying interest on that money just to

1024
00:47:31,893 --> 00:47:33,053
Speaker 9: pay people more.

1025
00:47:33,733 --> 00:47:39,173
Speaker 2: So obviously you're being affected directly by the teacher strikes.

1026
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:42,253
Speaker 2: Do you have more sympathy for the healthcare workers?

1027
00:47:44,213 --> 00:47:47,373
Speaker 9: Well, look, I did have sympathy for the teachers in

1028
00:47:47,453 --> 00:47:50,013
Speaker 9: the beginning, but this is the third day. You know,

1029
00:47:50,093 --> 00:47:53,773
Speaker 9: all my annual needs accounting for this year in holidays

1030
00:47:53,813 --> 00:47:56,293
Speaker 9: and Christmas holidays and stuff like that. So every day

1031
00:47:56,693 --> 00:48:00,053
Speaker 9: my teacher don't shop school to teach my kids, I've

1032
00:48:00,053 --> 00:48:02,973
Speaker 9: got to take a day off look after them, and

1033
00:48:03,333 --> 00:48:06,973
Speaker 9: I lose out. And that's you know, you paid to

1034
00:48:07,053 --> 00:48:08,933
Speaker 9: draw a job, you're employed to do a job. If

1035
00:48:08,973 --> 00:48:10,813
Speaker 9: I didn't go up to work and I wanted to

1036
00:48:10,813 --> 00:48:13,813
Speaker 9: go and strike, I wouldn't have a job. It's as

1037
00:48:13,853 --> 00:48:14,373
Speaker 9: simple as that.

1038
00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:17,293
Speaker 3: So what do you want to see from the teachers

1039
00:48:17,293 --> 00:48:19,213
Speaker 3: in the scenario being you want to see them back

1040
00:48:19,253 --> 00:48:21,733
Speaker 3: to the negotiating table, because it sounds like you do

1041
00:48:21,813 --> 00:48:24,093
Speaker 3: have some sympathy for their demands, but the way that

1042
00:48:24,093 --> 00:48:27,253
Speaker 3: they've gone about this mega strike has clearly impacted you.

1043
00:48:28,693 --> 00:48:28,893
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1044
00:48:28,933 --> 00:48:31,933
Speaker 9: Well you've given us two weeks notice, you know, to

1045
00:48:33,253 --> 00:48:34,813
Speaker 9: put them to our employer to get a day off

1046
00:48:34,813 --> 00:48:38,773
Speaker 9: work and it's unpaid. And yeah, it's just really affecting us.

1047
00:48:38,813 --> 00:48:41,853
Speaker 9: And I want to see the teachers lower their demands,

1048
00:48:42,293 --> 00:48:44,293
Speaker 9: suck it up, getting on with it like we all have,

1049
00:48:44,893 --> 00:48:47,893
Speaker 9: and when time gets when times get better, come back

1050
00:48:47,893 --> 00:48:50,373
Speaker 9: to the table and get more. But at the moment,

1051
00:48:50,453 --> 00:48:53,413
Speaker 9: it's not the time man. People saying, oh everyone got

1052
00:48:53,453 --> 00:48:56,013
Speaker 9: tax cuts, Well, I'm enjoying my text cut, and my

1053
00:48:56,053 --> 00:48:58,733
Speaker 9: text cut's paying for my raid increase. So I wouldn't

1054
00:48:58,773 --> 00:49:00,893
Speaker 9: give up my text cut for anyone. That's my money.

1055
00:49:01,013 --> 00:49:01,773
Speaker 9: I've worked for it.

1056
00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:04,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's an interesting thing when that that

1057
00:49:04,613 --> 00:49:08,053
Speaker 2: argument that you know, if they hadn't done the text cuts,

1058
00:49:08,093 --> 00:49:10,173
Speaker 2: then have the money. But the thing is that the

1059
00:49:10,213 --> 00:49:13,053
Speaker 2: tax cuts you know the government's not owed that money.

1060
00:49:13,293 --> 00:49:15,253
Speaker 2: They have to put a good argument for how much

1061
00:49:15,293 --> 00:49:19,733
Speaker 2: they tax us. Yeah, and you could, you know, you

1062
00:49:19,773 --> 00:49:22,652
Speaker 2: could tax us one hundred percent and it's not going

1063
00:49:22,653 --> 00:49:24,453
Speaker 2: to fix all the it's not going to affex all

1064
00:49:24,613 --> 00:49:27,732
Speaker 2: all the problems. Ben, Thank you so much for think.

1065
00:49:27,773 --> 00:49:28,692
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call.

1066
00:49:29,093 --> 00:49:31,053
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is that text number.

1067
00:49:31,253 --> 00:49:33,733
Speaker 2: It is interesting though, because there was that so Ben's

1068
00:49:33,773 --> 00:49:36,253
Speaker 2: would come frustrated. He had sympathy, and the sympathy is

1069
00:49:36,293 --> 00:49:40,293
Speaker 2: sort of waning after repeated strikes. But there was that

1070
00:49:40,333 --> 00:49:43,573
Speaker 2: poll recently that came back. It was only four hundred

1071
00:49:43,573 --> 00:49:46,692
Speaker 2: and something people, but it came back with sixty five

1072
00:49:46,693 --> 00:49:48,733
Speaker 2: percent support. Yeah, for the strikes.

1073
00:49:48,773 --> 00:49:50,333
Speaker 3: Do you buy that poll? I eight one hundred and

1074
00:49:50,333 --> 00:49:51,893
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. I mean it's funny.

1075
00:49:51,893 --> 00:49:53,773
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what they went polling listeners to the

1076
00:49:53,853 --> 00:49:56,973
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler afternoons on news Stork z B. I

1077
00:49:57,013 --> 00:50:00,933
Speaker 2: think people are jumping on the Gus sycamore.

1078
00:50:01,253 --> 00:50:03,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting a lot of supports.

1079
00:50:04,493 --> 00:50:06,613
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's practical. Gus the sycamore.

1080
00:50:06,773 --> 00:50:09,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, like your fire gusp sheep is made. Oh, eight

1081
00:50:09,693 --> 00:50:11,853
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number of cool?

1082
00:50:12,053 --> 00:50:14,213
Speaker 3: If you are at the strike as we speak, King

1083
00:50:14,253 --> 00:50:16,493
Speaker 3: never chat with you as well. Will it work?

1084
00:50:16,853 --> 00:50:19,573
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you think the strikes are gonna work?

1085
00:50:23,893 --> 00:50:27,293
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tayler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: For a good afternoon. It's twenty one past two and

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Speaker 3: we've asked the question do you think this mega strike

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Speaker 3: will work?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the

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Speaker 2: validity of this megastrike. Pole came back sixty five percent

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Speaker 2: of people. So it was a pole of four hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty four people, right, Yeah, anyway, we're looking to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get the scientific grigor of that particular pole because.

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Speaker 2: You've got a question those things, Well, you normally do

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Speaker 2: a pole of a thousand people, don't you do? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so your margin of earth goes up. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: if it's a fair enough poll and Talbot Mills research pole,

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Speaker 2: then I mean, what's the margin of er It's probably

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Speaker 2: you'd still dodgy as the poll is sixty five percent,

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could say that generally speaking. You know, people

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Speaker 2: support the strikes at the stage. Yeah, but as I say,

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Speaker 2: not the texts to Matantile APN's New York or say

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Speaker 2: be that support Gus's calls to have everyone a lot

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Speaker 2: of support for Gus everyone.

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Speaker 3: Josh, how are you? Mate?

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Speaker 9: Not a bet?

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Speaker 24: It's sweating it out here.

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Speaker 25: Nice listening down so you can.

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Speaker 3: Hear me talk, good man, we're about in the country.

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Speaker 3: You just quickly just.

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Speaker 24: Out a little Canterbury out on the planes.

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Speaker 6: Mate.

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Speaker 25: We're we're pretty lightly here, no real damage here.

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Speaker 26: Got a wind, good news, that's twenty three, twenty four

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Speaker 26: degrees and bright sunshine, howling wind, lovely you just I

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Speaker 26: don't want to sound like the Moana Mate and Joy

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Speaker 26: join the queue.

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Speaker 24: But you know, I'm a parent, I'm I'm.

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Speaker 15: Bold in the school.

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Speaker 25: Won't name of school to a parental growth and basically

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Speaker 25: we don't. We have we've made it clear that we're

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Speaker 25: not supporting the teachers, and this, my wife to nurses

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Speaker 25: would be to do your own thing.

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Speaker 24: I think you know, even anyone.

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Speaker 25: There's been in hospital understands the demands you know of

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Speaker 25: nursing and it's not a nine to five like teaching.

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Speaker 25: So that's not compared to Yeah, I think teachers are

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Speaker 25: well paid currently telling the high school students that they

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Speaker 25: are not striking for a pay rise, which is incorrect.

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Speaker 25: And let's be on the current economic climate, we'd all

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Speaker 25: love a pay roads say there's numbers waiting in the wings.

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Speaker 25: We do want the best people, but the best people

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Speaker 25: aren't going to go there for an each of five

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Speaker 25: thousand dollars. Career teachers do deserve to be locked after

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Speaker 25: and paid well, but I also think they need to

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Speaker 25: reflect on some of their decisions in the past few

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Speaker 25: years which have cost attacked pay a millions and millions

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Speaker 25: of dollars.

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Speaker 2: Do you think if they because they've got the text here,

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Speaker 2: Josh says, I hear on your bulletins that the strikers

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Speaker 2: are saying it's not about money. But if it was

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Speaker 2: about increasing support staff, and then why not drop the

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Speaker 2: pay demand, So, you know, would you think that would

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Speaker 2: be a way to move things forward if they it's

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Speaker 2: not about the money, just drop that part of it

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Speaker 2: and make that make the success of the strike or

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Speaker 2: the demands purely are around the you know, the conditions

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Speaker 2: and the support.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, well that would possibly lead to conclusion. But I

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Speaker 25: have to be more politically driven to cause a disturbance

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Speaker 25: rather than rarely what is that What they want has

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Speaker 25: basically been offered, just not.

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Speaker 24: Quite that same that pay ray.

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Speaker 25: But the way I look at it is we've got

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Speaker 25: as school.

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Speaker 24: We're looking at pay one teacher through maximum fifteen to

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Speaker 24: eighteen students, which I think is you can't get any

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Speaker 24: better than that.

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Speaker 25: We've got great conditions, it's just not the time and

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Speaker 25: the place and the disturbancey cause for low income families,

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Speaker 25: like like, I'm not saying on my income, but you know,

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Speaker 25: we struggle.

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Speaker 24: My partner works, she's got to take days off work

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Speaker 24: every time there's strike as we lose out every time

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Speaker 24: we pay for the refurbishments for the open learning disaster

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Speaker 24: that we all said wasn't going to work. That's costing

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Speaker 24: millions and millions of dollars of refurbishment and canify alone.

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Speaker 24: So yeah, I just seen that fighting there. Ron Peddle

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Speaker 24: right now not being fine.

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Speaker 2: You go, thank you so much for your cool, Josh.

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Speaker 2: Nobody got a tax cut, your muppets. We had massive

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Speaker 2: inflation under labor and the tax brackets weren't moved to

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Speaker 2: reflect this. Taxes were increased relative to real term wages,

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Speaker 2: and a portion of that increase was reversed. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: wasn't saying that. I was just saying that that wasn't

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Speaker 2: us that said that about the tax cuts. But that's

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Speaker 2: the argument, isn't it, That we shouldn't have had the

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Speaker 2: tax cuts and then the government would have money to

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Speaker 2: pay then the nurses and teachers more. But effectively that's

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Speaker 2: paying the other people that aren't nurses and teachers and

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Speaker 2: healthcare workers less.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, yeah, that's the side of that argument when

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Speaker 3: it comes to our money, which is effectively tax jack.

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Speaker 3: You agree with the nurses and the.

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Speaker 23: Teachers, Gay Fellows, No, not Actually, nurses I get behind Actually,

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Speaker 23: when you're putting in that much overtime and I don't know,

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Speaker 23: doing twelve hour shifts and helping people like saving their lives,

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Speaker 23: I kind of kind of get behind a bit of

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Speaker 23: a pay rise. When you look at the teachers, I'm

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Speaker 23: not too sure twelve twelve weeks paid holiday a year,

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Speaker 23: you're going like eight forty five to three PM. I'm

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Speaker 23: not too sure if I get behind them personally, Yeah,

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Speaker 23: that's my opinion.

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Speaker 2: But they they client. I mean, how do you reckon

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Speaker 2: you'd go teaching thirty screaming cads with varying degrees of neurodiversity.

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Speaker 23: Oh well, you chose to get into that profession. I

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Speaker 23: wouldn't say why, but I don't know the numbers of

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Speaker 23: the facts, but I do get behind the nurses the

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Speaker 23: teachers that I'm struggling, and as the previous caller set,

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Speaker 23: they're not asking for a pay rise, so what does

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Speaker 23: it they actually want.

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Speaker 3: I get your point about the twelve weeks holiday, and

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Speaker 3: that's you know, that is part of the deal when

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Speaker 3: you become a teacher, and it is a benefit of

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Speaker 3: the job to some of them. But speaking to some

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Speaker 3: teachers on no Jeck is no doubt about it. And

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Speaker 3: this is the tricky part is that they do have

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Speaker 3: more kids with special needs within the classroom, and they

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Speaker 3: don't have a choice. They have to direct most of

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Speaker 3: their teaching and focus on those children, which means, sadly,

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Speaker 3: the clever kids start to miss out because they think

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Speaker 3: the clever kids are meeting the targets. I don't have

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Speaker 3: to worry about them, but that sucks because if you've

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Speaker 3: got a clever kid, you want the teacher to be

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Speaker 3: just as focused in on them to get them to

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Speaker 3: the next level rather than the kids with extra needs.

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Speaker 3: So having an AID in there, to my eyes, isn't

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Speaker 3: a bad thing, and I'd.

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Speaker 23: Have to agree. To be honest, I don't know too

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Speaker 23: much about the points of either side, but all I

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00:57:45,173 --> 00:57:47,973
Speaker 23: know is that nurses. I've been into Auckland Hospital and

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00:57:48,013 --> 00:57:50,293
Speaker 23: the net Hospital it's a hellhole.

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Speaker 2: You wait on the er for keen out my goodness check,

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Speaker 2: I've just been running around.

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Speaker 8: I've just been.

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Speaker 2: Involved in Auckland Hospital and that is a It's a

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Speaker 2: hellhole exactly. That's the only way to describe it. You

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Speaker 2: just can't. It's just not functional. You've got so many

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Speaker 2: people there waiting and stressed staff and just to get

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Speaker 2: them through.

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Speaker 23: A woman in the corridors. Yes, it's actually really sad.

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Speaker 2: It actually hit me quite hard. I actually got quite

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Speaker 2: emotional about it, just seeing these sort of bewildered, sort

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Speaker 2: of lost, sick and injured people just being led around,

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00:58:25,533 --> 00:58:29,053
Speaker 2: sitting down waiting for hours. And then you look at

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00:58:29,093 --> 00:58:32,493
Speaker 2: the people working there and there's no way for them

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Speaker 2: to move it forward. There seems to be a log

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00:58:34,453 --> 00:58:39,093
Speaker 2: jam that won't can't be broken. They can't get people

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Speaker 2: through the system. So part of me thinks that there

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Speaker 2: might be it might not be about money. I mean,

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Speaker 2: does someone who just go in there and massively overhaul

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Speaker 2: the systems that are in place there because it just

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Speaker 2: didn't seem to work at all?

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Speaker 3: Well, great, should c almost?

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Speaker 2: I just feel like that. I wondered, Actually, I was

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Speaker 2: thinking about it when I was there, and just quickly

1250
00:59:03,173 --> 00:59:05,293
Speaker 2: is there the problem of blame? You know, we have

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00:59:05,413 --> 00:59:07,493
Speaker 2: this whole thing where someone has to be blamed if

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00:59:07,533 --> 00:59:09,813
Speaker 2: something goes wrong, If someone goes through the hospital and

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00:59:10,533 --> 00:59:13,733
Speaker 2: their treatment isn't quite exactly right, the whole media and

1254
00:59:13,853 --> 00:59:16,533
Speaker 2: world comes down on someone and blames them. As a result,

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Speaker 2: everything in the health system seems to be so risk

1256
00:59:19,773 --> 00:59:23,413
Speaker 2: averse to that you can't actually move things forward. You

1257
00:59:23,493 --> 00:59:25,213
Speaker 2: can't just get a doctor going no, you'll fine, get

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Speaker 2: out of here.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right, you come through.

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Speaker 2: We're just going to go and deal with this person

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Speaker 2: straight away.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a messive part of it. You're right,

1263
00:59:31,973 --> 00:59:33,973
Speaker 3: because it has to go through multiple chicks. You were there,

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00:59:34,053 --> 00:59:36,613
Speaker 3: you saw it first out, because they've got to protect

1265
00:59:36,653 --> 00:59:39,453
Speaker 3: their butts. And that's no you know, not being disparaging

1266
00:59:39,533 --> 00:59:41,093
Speaker 3: of the doctors and nurses. That's what they have to

1267
00:59:41,173 --> 00:59:44,973
Speaker 3: do to protect their asses. But it clogs things up clearly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean to multiple people.

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Speaker 2: Do we just need to accept for the health system

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Speaker 2: to work and get through that every now and then

1271
00:59:50,493 --> 00:59:52,173
Speaker 2: you're going to get a bum deal and something's going

1272
00:59:52,213 --> 00:59:54,693
Speaker 2: to go wrong and someone's going to miss out. But

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Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of people will get through, while that

1274
00:59:57,373 --> 01:00:02,653
Speaker 2: one percent is unlucky, and just empower doctors and nurses

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Speaker 2: to make clear decisions.

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Speaker 3: Interesting point, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: the number to call, Jack, Thanks very much for giving

1278
01:00:09,053 --> 01:00:11,093
Speaker 3: us a buzz. Headlines with railing coming up. We got

1279
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Speaker 3: full boards at the moment. If you can't get through,

1280
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Speaker 3: keep trying.

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Speaker 2: And why the hell are there so many neurodivergent kids

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden? Why is there nineteen people in

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Speaker 2: a thirty person class that have serious neurodivergency?

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Speaker 3: Another great question. I wish I could answer it, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And what I would say is, if you've got thirty

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Speaker 2: people in a class, thirty of them in eurodivergent because

1288
01:00:32,693 --> 01:00:34,613
Speaker 2: we're all different, right, Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 6: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 6: no trouble with a blue bubble. Ferocious winds continue in

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Speaker 6: central and Southern New Zealand, toppling trees, lifting roofs and

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Speaker 6: cutting power. Red wind warnings cover parts of Southland, Kluther

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Speaker 6: and Stuart Island, as well as Canterbury, Marlborough, Wellington and

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Speaker 6: Southern Wided Upper Cruise are working on restoring power cut

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Speaker 6: across the day to wide swathes of the South Island,

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Speaker 6: as one as Upper and Lower Hut Pottydoer and Wided

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Speaker 6: Upper Fire Cruise battling fires and Hawk's Bay, Kaikoda and

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Speaker 6: Hamna Springs where people have been evacuated. Many roads are

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Speaker 6: closed and the West coast is cut off. An emergency

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Speaker 6: operations center has been set up in Queenstown Lakes after flooding.

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Speaker 6: Tens of thousands of health, education and public sector workers

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Speaker 6: have been marching through streets in towns and cities across

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Speaker 6: the country over pay and working conditions. Bus operator Kinetics

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Speaker 6: confirmed their electric buses batteries were undamaged and not a

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Speaker 6: factor in a fire after a crash in which a

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Speaker 6: bus driver died in Auckland last night. Luhmann CEO Max

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Speaker 6: Ferguson on a mission to retain top Key we talent

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Speaker 6: after his own return from Silicon Valley. You can read

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Speaker 6: more at Enzi Herald Premium. Back now to matt Ethan

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Speaker 6: Tyna Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: strike currently under way. Do you think it will work?

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Speaker 3: That's the question we put to you. Oh one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty set number a.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a pushback on what Jack was saying about

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Speaker 2: the hours that teachers work. We are neighbors of a

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Speaker 2: local primary school, and teachers are at work around seven

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01:02:13,053 --> 01:02:15,853
Speaker 2: thirty am and leave around five pm, and sometimes they're

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Speaker 2: on the weekends and on holidays as well. I'm an

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Speaker 2: education I rave at school each day by seven to

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Speaker 2: seven point fifteen am. Every day I'm there and I

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01:02:25,173 --> 01:02:27,653
Speaker 2: don't leave until at least five pm, and work most

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Speaker 2: evenings to keep on top of things, and for the

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Speaker 2: last thirty plus years have worked most weekends for at

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Speaker 2: least half a day. Call appeared to be misinformed, but

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Speaker 2: this Texas says, what about the police who can't strike?

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Speaker 2: Where nurses jumped thirty k in seven years, teachers jump

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Speaker 2: forty k and ten years, and cops jump thirty k

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Speaker 2: and twenty years. They got screwed over every time. Yet

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Speaker 2: just part of call whenever something goes wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good text.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's rough on the police not to strike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And this one on the nurs's side of things, guys,

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Speaker 3: no one and I do mean, no one has asked

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Speaker 3: the strikers where this money will come from. I was

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Speaker 3: a nurse for more than twenty three years. Do you

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01:03:05,013 --> 01:03:08,253
Speaker 3: know what we earn? More than the majority of you realize?

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Speaker 3: Trust me on that one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And it's not twelve weeks holiday, get it right.

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Speaker 2: Most people get what regular people get, and it's not

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01:03:15,613 --> 01:03:18,293
Speaker 2: eight forty five to three pm. A lot of ignorance

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Speaker 2: from you both. I didn't say that callers.

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Speaker 3: That's what the call is.

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01:03:23,973 --> 01:03:26,053
Speaker 2: We're here to have a conversation. People come through and

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01:03:26,093 --> 01:03:28,173
Speaker 2: say what they're saying. Yep, So a lot of ignorance

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01:03:28,213 --> 01:03:30,173
Speaker 2: from U. Text are saying that ignorance from us.

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01:03:30,333 --> 01:03:33,293
Speaker 3: You have you hit the same, right, de Alex.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 27: Yeah yeah, so just dis gout to the strikes. I

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01:03:39,453 --> 01:03:41,573
Speaker 27: think one of the things is I think with all

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01:03:41,613 --> 01:03:43,453
Speaker 27: of them striking together on the same day, I think

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01:03:43,493 --> 01:03:46,413
Speaker 27: that the whole purpose is getting defeated. I think because

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01:03:47,373 --> 01:03:49,533
Speaker 27: because you're comparing. You need to compare apples with apples,

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01:03:49,573 --> 01:03:53,093
Speaker 27: because the teachers work probably a nine to five shift

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01:03:53,653 --> 01:03:55,573
Speaker 27: or or eight to five shift, and they got like

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Speaker 27: normal Monday to private jobs, whereas the nurses and other

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01:03:58,733 --> 01:04:02,613
Speaker 27: medical staff they've got another shift work and they're leading

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01:04:02,653 --> 01:04:04,533
Speaker 27: in the front lines with all the bugs and viruses

1359
01:04:04,733 --> 01:04:07,973
Speaker 27: and angry patients and relatives, you know, And you know,

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01:04:08,773 --> 01:04:11,293
Speaker 27: you're comparing two different class of workers there, and you're

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01:04:11,333 --> 01:04:13,093
Speaker 27: trying to strike. And and now they say it's not

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01:04:13,133 --> 01:04:16,053
Speaker 27: about money, you know, when we now asked for the

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Speaker 27: I've heard from French statters is that you know, they've

1364
01:04:19,053 --> 01:04:21,733
Speaker 27: the nots who's offered like a one percent hike when

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01:04:21,773 --> 01:04:23,573
Speaker 27: the inflation was around three to four percent.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you think I think it does the messagelics

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01:04:26,813 --> 01:04:28,973
Speaker 3: when they and clearly it is political. And I think

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Speaker 3: Chris Abercrombie from the PPTA told that to Ryan Bridge.

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01:04:32,893 --> 01:04:35,333
Speaker 3: When you coordinate strikes, clearly it is political when he

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Speaker 3: admitted that this morning. But you think it does the

1372
01:04:37,693 --> 01:04:40,213
Speaker 3: message when they're all when they're all striking at once,

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01:04:40,373 --> 01:04:43,933
Speaker 3: that that weakens each of their demands exactly.

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Speaker 27: That's what's happening and so, and the thing is with

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01:04:47,733 --> 01:04:50,373
Speaker 27: regard to the nursis and you know, the police and

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01:04:50,493 --> 01:04:53,013
Speaker 27: they're not allowed to strike, and then you're still to

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01:04:53,133 --> 01:04:56,573
Speaker 27: keep the life preserving services, so they technically they aren't striking,

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Speaker 27: just probably then the elective surgeries and stuff that gets delayed,

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01:05:00,493 --> 01:05:02,933
Speaker 27: so they aren't actual actually striking, they're still providing the service,

1380
01:05:02,933 --> 01:05:05,213
Speaker 27: whereas the teachers are completely off work today when they

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Speaker 27: are doing that, and again they got their normal term

1382
01:05:08,053 --> 01:05:11,013
Speaker 27: break and you know, the leads and stuff like that.

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Speaker 27: So it's it's not fair to compare to teach us

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Speaker 27: claims with and as you know from the last week,

1385
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Speaker 27: you know, and they tried to sneak in the Palestine

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01:05:19,933 --> 01:05:22,733
Speaker 27: issue into the whole agenda. So that is so sure

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Speaker 27: that another of the unions are just playing their games

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Speaker 27: against the government because they're not the labor government back

1389
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Speaker 27: the unions, you know, So it's more of a political

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01:05:31,213 --> 01:05:33,933
Speaker 27: thing rather than I think. So it's something probably the

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01:05:34,213 --> 01:05:38,293
Speaker 27: nurses Union and teachers Union need to know their unions

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Speaker 27: to know to voice out their real consult rather than

1393
01:05:41,293 --> 01:05:44,173
Speaker 27: muddling and messing not mixing of the messages. For combining

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Speaker 27: all the strikes today on one.

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Speaker 2: Day Yeah, I think I think that there's there's some

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01:05:48,173 --> 01:05:51,213
Speaker 2: truth in that, because you know, we're going through these

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01:05:51,493 --> 01:05:55,973
Speaker 2: these pages of demands from the teachers and the healthcare workers,

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Speaker 2: and it does totally muddy the waters and they're completely

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Speaker 2: different situations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:06:01,813 --> 01:06:05,693
Speaker 2: So I guess the mega strike makes a huge statement

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01:06:06,253 --> 01:06:08,693
Speaker 2: and it's got us talking about it and you can't

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01:06:08,733 --> 01:06:11,013
Speaker 2: hide from it. Whereas the teacher seemed to be striking

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01:06:11,013 --> 01:06:14,253
Speaker 2: all the time, so potentially people were, well, it's sat

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Speaker 2: for the people that have to stay home from work

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01:06:15,653 --> 01:06:18,453
Speaker 2: and look after the kids. Yeah, but people were not

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01:06:18,573 --> 01:06:22,333
Speaker 2: seeing anymore. So it's a big statement. But you're right,

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01:06:22,413 --> 01:06:25,013
Speaker 2: Alex Muddy's the waters, Yeah on the demands, because the

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01:06:25,053 --> 01:06:25,853
Speaker 2: demands are different.

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01:06:25,933 --> 01:06:29,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, gets lost in translation, right, Yeah, because we're fried.

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Speaker 3: I've gone deep into the demands of various people who

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01:06:31,973 --> 01:06:33,813
Speaker 3: were striking, and it's pretty hard to get my head

1413
01:06:33,813 --> 01:06:34,413
Speaker 3: around all of them.

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Speaker 2: The six says. I was asking about why is there

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Speaker 2: so many neurodiverse children out there? Because I heard this

1416
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Speaker 2: caller through to Kerry Wooden Show and she was saying

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Speaker 2: in her class of thirty, there was nineteen neurodiverse kids

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01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:46,093
Speaker 2: in there. I was like, how can that be and

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01:06:46,453 --> 01:06:48,973
Speaker 2: this primary school teacher was saying, it's so different from

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01:06:48,973 --> 01:06:50,613
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. And she was quite a

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01:06:50,653 --> 01:06:52,293
Speaker 2: young primary school teacher. She didn't have been to teacher

1422
01:06:52,333 --> 01:06:54,293
Speaker 2: for seven years. She was saying, it's so different from

1423
01:06:54,333 --> 01:06:57,893
Speaker 2: when she was primary in primary school. Just the vast

1424
01:06:57,973 --> 01:07:01,373
Speaker 2: amount of people that are neurodiverse now, and they have

1425
01:07:01,493 --> 01:07:04,173
Speaker 2: so many neurodiverse children and classrooms the sticks as it

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01:07:04,293 --> 01:07:08,933
Speaker 2: is extremely hard to get ORES funding overview ongoing scheme

1427
01:07:09,373 --> 01:07:11,893
Speaker 2: funding which you need to have to be able to

1428
01:07:11,973 --> 01:07:14,253
Speaker 2: go to a special school or to get extra support

1429
01:07:14,613 --> 01:07:17,493
Speaker 2: funded teacher aides. Unless your child is in nappies, it

1430
01:07:17,613 --> 01:07:20,733
Speaker 2: is highly unlikely you will get ORES funding Now. Even

1431
01:07:20,733 --> 01:07:23,333
Speaker 2: those who aren't toilet trained are not getting funding and

1432
01:07:23,453 --> 01:07:27,093
Speaker 2: going into new entrants at school. Teachers need support, not

1433
01:07:27,293 --> 01:07:32,493
Speaker 2: more pay. Okay, but there does seem to be more neurodiverse?

1434
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Speaker 2: Is that just because where are you? Know? You didn't

1435
01:07:36,693 --> 01:07:38,373
Speaker 2: used to get diagnosed as neurodiverse?

1436
01:07:38,613 --> 01:07:39,333
Speaker 3: It must be right.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was just diagnosed as a little shit

1438
01:07:41,413 --> 01:07:43,613
Speaker 2: when I was maybe there was something wrong with me,

1439
01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:45,693
Speaker 2: It was just you are a disruption?

1440
01:07:45,853 --> 01:07:47,653
Speaker 3: Did you get extra focused or they just thought I

1441
01:07:47,693 --> 01:07:48,853
Speaker 3: don't worry about if.

1442
01:07:48,773 --> 01:07:51,653
Speaker 2: You mean having to move my desk out in front

1443
01:07:51,653 --> 01:07:55,053
Speaker 2: of the deputy principal's office and do all my work

1444
01:07:55,093 --> 01:07:58,453
Speaker 2: there in my little desk, then I did get special attention.

1445
01:07:58,573 --> 01:08:01,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, good as well. It is nineteen to three, back

1446
01:08:01,573 --> 01:08:04,493
Speaker 3: very shortly. Do you think these strikes will work? Back

1447
01:08:04,533 --> 01:08:04,893
Speaker 3: at the month?

1448
01:08:05,253 --> 01:08:09,413
Speaker 2: Shout out to mister Let's at Bell mckum Intermediate, a.

1449
01:08:09,493 --> 01:08:13,613
Speaker 1: Fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

1450
01:08:13,813 --> 01:08:17,053
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks.

1451
01:08:17,293 --> 01:08:20,652
Speaker 3: Be afternoon to you. It's sixteen to three talking about

1452
01:08:20,693 --> 01:08:22,173
Speaker 3: the mega strike while it works.

1453
01:08:22,452 --> 01:08:26,333
Speaker 2: Katherine says these latest messages are more correct about teachers.

1454
01:08:26,412 --> 01:08:28,133
Speaker 2: My son is a teacher, and I know how hard

1455
01:08:28,173 --> 01:08:30,372
Speaker 2: he works before school and in the evenings and on

1456
01:08:30,492 --> 01:08:33,333
Speaker 2: weekends in some parts of school holidays. The general public

1457
01:08:33,412 --> 01:08:36,213
Speaker 2: don't know this. They jump to conclusions. Also, the teachers

1458
01:08:36,253 --> 01:08:39,133
Speaker 2: that teach my grandchildren are at work early. I've seen

1459
01:08:39,173 --> 01:08:41,293
Speaker 2: them when going to work and they are still there

1460
01:08:41,372 --> 01:08:44,173
Speaker 2: in the afternoons after school. They work bloody hard. Also,

1461
01:08:44,253 --> 01:08:46,293
Speaker 2: it's not just about the money, it's what they are

1462
01:08:46,372 --> 01:08:49,452
Speaker 2: required to do that the general public don't see class

1463
01:08:49,532 --> 01:08:52,732
Speaker 2: planning marking, which is huge, etcetera, etcetera. I wish more

1464
01:08:52,772 --> 01:08:55,932
Speaker 2: teachers would ring in to explain it in these instead

1465
01:08:55,933 --> 01:08:58,852
Speaker 2: of these people ringing in texting with rubbish facts.

1466
01:08:58,973 --> 01:09:01,372
Speaker 3: Cheers Katine, and please do if you're a teacher out

1467
01:09:01,412 --> 01:09:03,933
Speaker 3: there listening right now or you might be having you

1468
01:09:04,053 --> 01:09:05,652
Speaker 3: might be at these strikes with the play cards, come

1469
01:09:05,652 --> 01:09:07,093
Speaker 3: on through one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1470
01:09:07,253 --> 01:09:10,012
Speaker 2: Yes, And because our show is all about the conversation

1471
01:09:10,213 --> 01:09:14,253
Speaker 2: and giving everyone side that we can and the time

1472
01:09:14,293 --> 01:09:16,452
Speaker 2: that we have here at Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

1473
01:09:16,492 --> 01:09:18,852
Speaker 2: on news talks, he'd be Here's an opposing point of view.

1474
01:09:18,853 --> 01:09:21,372
Speaker 2: Teachers are obviously responsible for many of the poor outcomes

1475
01:09:21,372 --> 01:09:24,612
Speaker 2: of our education system, but they do not seem to

1476
01:09:24,692 --> 01:09:27,652
Speaker 2: accept that. Now they seem to use neurodiversity as an

1477
01:09:27,652 --> 01:09:30,772
Speaker 2: excuse for poor results. I blame the kids and their parents.

1478
01:09:31,133 --> 01:09:33,372
Speaker 2: It's about time they stop blaming everyone else. Most of

1479
01:09:33,412 --> 01:09:35,692
Speaker 2: them probably should have their pay reduced.

1480
01:09:35,893 --> 01:09:39,732
Speaker 3: Tom okay Strong one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1481
01:09:39,772 --> 01:09:40,213
Speaker 3: that number?

1482
01:09:40,333 --> 01:09:41,973
Speaker 2: So if a teacher works nine to five, they're just

1483
01:09:42,053 --> 01:09:46,932
Speaker 2: doing a normal day. Yeah, it's probably fair, Ye cahn't

1484
01:09:48,093 --> 01:09:50,292
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the strikes.

1485
01:09:51,853 --> 01:09:54,412
Speaker 28: Yeah, hey, guys, really enjoy the show, you.

1486
01:09:55,893 --> 01:09:56,452
Speaker 13: No worries?

1487
01:09:58,452 --> 01:10:02,213
Speaker 28: Yeah, I'm kind of struggling with with people ringing up

1488
01:10:02,293 --> 01:10:07,892
Speaker 28: and the whole nine to three, And like it's fairly

1489
01:10:07,933 --> 01:10:13,173
Speaker 28: obvious from the calls that we've had and we're putting

1490
01:10:13,452 --> 01:10:15,933
Speaker 28: we're putting these people in charge of our children to

1491
01:10:18,452 --> 01:10:23,253
Speaker 28: give them knowledge and to educate them to be the

1492
01:10:23,372 --> 01:10:26,892
Speaker 28: next CEO, the next Prime minister, the next bunch of nurses,

1493
01:10:26,973 --> 01:10:32,772
Speaker 28: the next whatever. And I don't feel like, I feel

1494
01:10:32,812 --> 01:10:41,293
Speaker 28: like if pay them, pay them what they're worth, Like, yeah,

1495
01:10:41,973 --> 01:10:46,052
Speaker 28: they've got a huge responsibility as far as our community goes.

1496
01:10:46,333 --> 01:10:49,532
Speaker 28: And yeah, and we're all arguing about paying them more.

1497
01:10:49,572 --> 01:10:51,613
Speaker 28: I just, yeah, I think it's madness.

1498
01:10:51,452 --> 01:10:55,053
Speaker 2: But I guess, you know, And as David Seymour said

1499
01:10:55,093 --> 01:10:57,732
Speaker 2: this morning, there's not a person in cabinet that doesn't

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01:10:57,732 --> 01:11:02,532
Speaker 2: want to pay them more. But the argument against that

1501
01:11:02,732 --> 01:11:05,652
Speaker 2: is that we're a bit of a broke country at

1502
01:11:05,692 --> 01:11:09,532
Speaker 2: the moment and we're not really in a bosie to

1503
01:11:09,652 --> 01:11:12,213
Speaker 2: pay them more. Who would you pay less so we

1504
01:11:12,253 --> 01:11:13,732
Speaker 2: could pay them more? Or where would you move the

1505
01:11:13,812 --> 01:11:16,173
Speaker 2: money from so we can pay them more? Carn Because

1506
01:11:16,173 --> 01:11:17,772
Speaker 2: it's not great. If we start if we borrow the

1507
01:11:17,853 --> 01:11:20,052
Speaker 2: money to pay them, that doesn't set up our children

1508
01:11:20,173 --> 01:11:21,692
Speaker 2: very well for the future, as they have to pay

1509
01:11:21,772 --> 01:11:22,293
Speaker 2: that debt.

1510
01:11:22,133 --> 01:11:27,133
Speaker 28: Off percal I take some money off the knuckleheads that

1511
01:11:27,173 --> 01:11:30,932
Speaker 28: are ringing and complaining about teachers. Let's start there.

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01:11:31,253 --> 01:11:33,333
Speaker 2: Cas isn't going to be happy with that. Can so

1513
01:11:34,572 --> 01:11:36,612
Speaker 2: that that would involve us handing out numbers to the.

1514
01:11:40,293 --> 01:11:42,093
Speaker 3: Now, I mean, is there a perfect year can? The

1515
01:11:42,173 --> 01:11:43,772
Speaker 3: more I hear and it seems to be. And this

1516
01:11:43,933 --> 01:11:46,253
Speaker 3: is just the conversations an agnodal conversations I've had with

1517
01:11:46,333 --> 01:11:49,372
Speaker 3: some teachers, is that the behavioral problems and call it

1518
01:11:49,492 --> 01:11:52,173
Speaker 3: neuro divers or call it just kids behaving badly, that's

1519
01:11:52,173 --> 01:11:53,532
Speaker 3: a massive part of it, right, and they have to

1520
01:11:53,572 --> 01:11:56,093
Speaker 3: focus in on these kids, and that means kids who

1521
01:11:56,213 --> 01:11:58,772
Speaker 3: do who are achieving, but they've got potential to do

1522
01:11:58,853 --> 01:12:02,133
Speaker 3: far more, they get no attention. So back to my

1523
01:12:02,213 --> 01:12:04,253
Speaker 3: original point, because I've gone off tangent there, But this

1524
01:12:04,372 --> 01:12:07,053
Speaker 3: comes back to parents, right. Parents are involved in the

1525
01:12:07,133 --> 01:12:10,333
Speaker 3: upbringing of these kids, and these kids have extra behavioral issues.

1526
01:12:10,372 --> 01:12:12,772
Speaker 3: There's got to be some support outside of the school

1527
01:12:12,853 --> 01:12:15,013
Speaker 3: system to deal with that. It's not solely up to

1528
01:12:15,253 --> 01:12:17,492
Speaker 3: teachers to figure out the best way to deal with

1529
01:12:17,572 --> 01:12:18,612
Speaker 3: kids who are behaving badly.

1530
01:12:20,452 --> 01:12:24,253
Speaker 28: Can I say something really quick? My son, my son

1531
01:12:24,412 --> 01:12:30,252
Speaker 28: is heavily autistic. He's he's he's verbal, but he's he struggles,

1532
01:12:32,013 --> 01:12:35,412
Speaker 28: he's ADHD as well. And we've put him into a

1533
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:40,452
Speaker 28: Steiner Model school Wardoff School here in Hamilton, and it's

1534
01:12:40,492 --> 01:12:48,652
Speaker 28: an absolute godsend, like like I being as being his dad,

1535
01:12:49,253 --> 01:12:53,013
Speaker 28: sometimes I struggle with his behavior and imagine having a

1536
01:12:53,093 --> 01:12:58,173
Speaker 28: room of nineteen like like just the patience of a saint.

1537
01:12:59,973 --> 01:13:00,492
Speaker 26: Yeah, I.

1538
01:13:02,492 --> 01:13:07,052
Speaker 28: Think anybody who has autistic children or on the spectrum

1539
01:13:07,053 --> 01:13:12,892
Speaker 28: at all. WARDORFF has solved half of your yeah, education

1540
01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:15,532
Speaker 28: problems with our Sunnis. That just just magic.

1541
01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:18,692
Speaker 2: And but there's quite a waiting list to get into

1542
01:13:18,732 --> 01:13:21,213
Speaker 2: those schools, isn't it, those din of schools? Am I right? Can't?

1543
01:13:22,293 --> 01:13:22,492
Speaker 28: Yes?

1544
01:13:22,572 --> 01:13:22,852
Speaker 7: There is?

1545
01:13:22,933 --> 01:13:25,772
Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah we added three years, but yeah it was worth.

1546
01:13:25,652 --> 01:13:30,372
Speaker 2: It, yes well. And so so with that in mind,

1547
01:13:30,452 --> 01:13:33,173
Speaker 2: if the teachers just drop the pay increase part of

1548
01:13:33,213 --> 01:13:37,852
Speaker 2: it and and just really focused on the conditions and

1549
01:13:37,973 --> 01:13:41,052
Speaker 2: you know, the support and the teachers aids and such,

1550
01:13:41,093 --> 01:13:43,812
Speaker 2: would you, you know, do you think they'd get more

1551
01:13:44,492 --> 01:13:48,213
Speaker 2: more a more favorable response from the texts and call

1552
01:13:48,333 --> 01:13:51,173
Speaker 2: us to Matt tight afternoons and you still said if

1553
01:13:51,213 --> 01:13:51,973
Speaker 2: that matters.

1554
01:13:53,933 --> 01:13:58,692
Speaker 28: Absolutely, the I mean the fact that it's being brought

1555
01:13:58,732 --> 01:14:05,013
Speaker 28: up or the oh yeah, it's I mean you could

1556
01:14:05,053 --> 01:14:06,612
Speaker 28: you can discuss this in the next three days and

1557
01:14:06,933 --> 01:14:12,932
Speaker 28: still not recovered it. But yeah, it's yeah, I'm sure

1558
01:14:12,973 --> 01:14:14,293
Speaker 28: you guys have come up with the right solution.

1559
01:14:14,532 --> 01:14:14,732
Speaker 4: Matt.

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01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:18,133
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a lot of faith in the wrong place,

1561
01:14:18,253 --> 01:14:19,133
Speaker 3: I think, thank you.

1562
01:14:19,412 --> 01:14:21,973
Speaker 2: But all the best with your son, can't ye And

1563
01:14:22,053 --> 01:14:24,013
Speaker 2: I'm glad he's in a school that's that's working out

1564
01:14:24,053 --> 01:14:25,492
Speaker 2: from that's that's that's great to hear.

1565
01:14:25,612 --> 01:14:27,612
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, thank you very much. Oh one hundred and

1566
01:14:27,612 --> 01:14:29,572
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Love to

1567
01:14:29,612 --> 01:14:31,612
Speaker 3: hear from you. Do you think the strikes will work?

1568
01:14:31,652 --> 01:14:34,492
Speaker 3: And if you're involved, if you're a teacher or medical professional,

1569
01:14:34,612 --> 01:14:35,253
Speaker 3: come on through.

1570
01:14:35,412 --> 01:14:37,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll talk to angus next to the teacher,

1571
01:14:38,973 --> 01:14:39,893
Speaker 2: the issues.

1572
01:14:39,612 --> 01:14:42,053
Speaker 1: That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

1573
01:14:42,333 --> 01:14:47,812
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons, News Talks, News.

1574
01:14:47,692 --> 01:14:49,652
Speaker 3: Talks there be. It is seven to three and we're

1575
01:14:49,692 --> 01:14:52,852
Speaker 3: talking about the mega strike. Do you think it will work.

1576
01:14:53,452 --> 01:14:55,293
Speaker 3: That's the question we've put to you. But we're getting

1577
01:14:55,372 --> 01:14:58,253
Speaker 3: all sorts of good people coming through with their thoughts.

1578
01:14:58,812 --> 01:15:01,732
Speaker 2: Angus, you're a teacher, so love to hear your thoughts

1579
01:15:01,812 --> 01:15:04,053
Speaker 2: on on on the strike. Whether you think it's going to.

1580
01:15:04,093 --> 01:15:06,893
Speaker 9: Work LEDs.

1581
01:15:08,452 --> 01:15:10,812
Speaker 21: Yeah, I don't know, really, it's pretty hard to know,

1582
01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:15,932
Speaker 21: as I still think I'm in the union. Two years ago,

1583
01:15:16,093 --> 01:15:20,132
Speaker 21: I voted down the offer that were eventually accepted because

1584
01:15:20,173 --> 01:15:23,333
Speaker 21: it was essentially kind of kicking again down the road

1585
01:15:23,933 --> 01:15:26,053
Speaker 21: we didn't really get. I feel like we've got a

1586
01:15:26,093 --> 01:15:30,133
Speaker 21: pretty piss for offer that we had to accept because

1587
01:15:30,133 --> 01:15:32,293
Speaker 21: there was nothing else coming. So you're not going to

1588
01:15:32,333 --> 01:15:36,532
Speaker 21: say no to a really poor offer. But now here

1589
01:15:36,572 --> 01:15:40,412
Speaker 21: we are again, and we're losing public opinion because people

1590
01:15:40,452 --> 01:15:42,772
Speaker 21: will see what the nurses have to go through and think, yep,

1591
01:15:43,372 --> 01:15:46,013
Speaker 21: it's paid them better. They see what the sort of

1592
01:15:46,772 --> 01:15:48,772
Speaker 21: the economy is in and like you, well, where's the

1593
01:15:48,812 --> 01:15:51,173
Speaker 21: money coming from. You're already bothering Peter to pay Paul.

1594
01:15:51,812 --> 01:15:55,173
Speaker 21: And then you know the old miss that teachers get

1595
01:15:55,732 --> 01:15:58,692
Speaker 21: twelve weeks holiday year and nine to three. It's like,

1596
01:15:59,532 --> 01:16:02,652
Speaker 21: it's interesting. I sort of wanted to comment on the

1597
01:16:02,812 --> 01:16:03,692
Speaker 21: scope of the job.

1598
01:16:03,772 --> 01:16:04,053
Speaker 17: I think.

1599
01:16:04,093 --> 01:16:05,973
Speaker 21: I see, I've been teaching for sort of ten or

1600
01:16:06,013 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 21: so years, and I think in my time teaching, I've

1601
01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:12,932
Speaker 21: found the partial care of students actually go up quite

1602
01:16:12,933 --> 01:16:16,053
Speaker 21: a lot if the demands and you are quite high now,

1603
01:16:16,532 --> 01:16:20,452
Speaker 21: particularly with social media and the unadult rated screen time

1604
01:16:20,492 --> 01:16:22,933
Speaker 21: that some kids will get at home that schools have

1605
01:16:23,093 --> 01:16:25,492
Speaker 21: no control over. And then you're having to pick up

1606
01:16:25,492 --> 01:16:28,453
Speaker 21: the steteries at school with these kids that just lack engagements.

1607
01:16:29,093 --> 01:16:30,852
Speaker 21: They get so bored with what you put in front

1608
01:16:30,853 --> 01:16:34,612
Speaker 21: of them, but that ain't fortnite. It ain't the things

1609
01:16:34,652 --> 01:16:38,612
Speaker 21: that they engage with at home. And I then parents

1610
01:16:38,732 --> 01:16:41,932
Speaker 21: who will not all of them, but you'll definitely get

1611
01:16:41,973 --> 01:16:43,932
Speaker 21: parents that will sling a bit of crap your way

1612
01:16:43,973 --> 01:16:47,133
Speaker 21: because you're not doing enough for it's the school's fault.

1613
01:16:47,213 --> 01:16:50,812
Speaker 21: And often school is a symptom of society. You're trying

1614
01:16:50,853 --> 01:16:55,133
Speaker 21: to deal with some of society's issues. And yet yeah,

1615
01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:57,932
Speaker 21: it's like the teacher's fault. And again, some of these

1616
01:16:57,973 --> 01:17:01,013
Speaker 21: issues we're going through, the teachers are a cog and

1617
01:17:01,093 --> 01:17:04,052
Speaker 21: a much bigger system. You're just trying to facilitate learning

1618
01:17:04,093 --> 01:17:07,572
Speaker 21: within a bigger system. NCA that's changing. Teachers are having

1619
01:17:07,612 --> 01:17:12,333
Speaker 21: to pick up the pieces there. Yeah, but then I

1620
01:17:12,412 --> 01:17:14,532
Speaker 21: don't know where I said on paying the teachers more

1621
01:17:14,572 --> 01:17:19,333
Speaker 21: because I'm like, everyone's doing it pretty tough. Yeah, and

1622
01:17:19,333 --> 01:17:20,933
Speaker 21: where does that money come from? So I understand the

1623
01:17:21,013 --> 01:17:23,772
Speaker 21: economics of it, but essentially, what value do we want

1624
01:17:23,812 --> 01:17:25,412
Speaker 21: to put on an education in this country?

1625
01:17:27,333 --> 01:17:27,532
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1626
01:17:27,652 --> 01:17:30,812
Speaker 21: As now the time to really start to solve that problem.

1627
01:17:31,253 --> 01:17:31,612
Speaker 9: Maybe not.

1628
01:17:32,412 --> 01:17:35,692
Speaker 2: It's really interesting what you say, Angus, that attention span thing,

1629
01:17:35,732 --> 01:17:37,492
Speaker 2: because we've talked about a lot on the show, the

1630
01:17:37,652 --> 01:17:39,812
Speaker 2: plummeting attention spans, and we've been talking about it from

1631
01:17:39,812 --> 01:17:44,972
Speaker 2: an adult perspective, but from a child's perspective, Oh my god,

1632
01:17:45,492 --> 01:17:49,053
Speaker 2: that they are there. That I mean, how do you

1633
01:17:49,372 --> 01:17:53,173
Speaker 2: How do you deal with kids that can't even concentrate

1634
01:17:53,412 --> 01:17:54,532
Speaker 2: for what thirty seconds?

1635
01:17:55,133 --> 01:17:58,452
Speaker 21: So I feel it every day when I get in

1636
01:17:58,492 --> 01:18:00,612
Speaker 21: front of my students and I actually put a time

1637
01:18:00,652 --> 01:18:03,092
Speaker 21: for them, give me two minutes, but undivided at engine

1638
01:18:03,372 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 21: and within pian seconds are gone.

1639
01:18:07,692 --> 01:18:10,492
Speaker 2: It's terrifying. Adam bad Yeah, thank you so much for

1640
01:18:10,492 --> 01:18:11,132
Speaker 2: your call, Angus.

1641
01:18:11,213 --> 01:18:13,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great call. Look, we're going to carry

1642
01:18:13,412 --> 01:18:15,253
Speaker 3: this on, I think because we've had so many people

1643
01:18:15,253 --> 01:18:17,053
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about this, and we've got

1644
01:18:17,133 --> 01:18:18,852
Speaker 3: full boards at the moment. If you can't get through,

1645
01:18:18,933 --> 01:18:21,293
Speaker 3: keep trying. But oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1646
01:18:21,532 --> 01:18:24,213
Speaker 3: if you're a teacher, if you're a medical professional, love

1647
01:18:24,293 --> 01:18:26,333
Speaker 3: to hear from you. What are your demands and what

1648
01:18:26,532 --> 01:18:28,372
Speaker 3: do you think you'll get out of the strike. Do

1649
01:18:28,492 --> 01:18:31,212
Speaker 3: you think it will work? Really can have that conversation

1650
01:18:31,293 --> 01:18:33,093
Speaker 3: with you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1651
01:18:33,173 --> 01:18:35,333
Speaker 3: that number to call. Nine two ninety two is the

1652
01:18:35,492 --> 01:18:38,372
Speaker 3: text number. We've got new sport and weather coming up

1653
01:18:38,412 --> 01:18:41,132
Speaker 3: as well, and we're keeping on top of any developments

1654
01:18:41,213 --> 01:18:43,973
Speaker 3: you need to hear about the weather. Mark Mitchell just

1655
01:18:44,093 --> 01:18:45,812
Speaker 3: heads up, we'll be doing a media stand up at

1656
01:18:45,853 --> 01:18:48,612
Speaker 3: three forty five pm. That is all coming up.

1657
01:18:48,652 --> 01:18:55,333
Speaker 1: News is next, Your new homes are inspful and entertaining.

1658
01:18:55,452 --> 01:18:55,692
Speaker 13: Talk.

1659
01:18:55,933 --> 01:18:59,612
Speaker 4: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons.

1660
01:18:59,213 --> 01:19:02,933
Speaker 3: On News Talk Sebby, Very good afternoon to you. It

1661
01:19:03,013 --> 01:19:05,293
Speaker 3: is seven past three. Just before we get back to

1662
01:19:05,333 --> 01:19:08,012
Speaker 3: the discussion about the mega strike and we'll at work.

1663
01:19:08,053 --> 01:19:09,812
Speaker 3: We've got some weather updates for you.

1664
01:19:10,492 --> 01:19:13,692
Speaker 2: That's right. The Greater Graymouth water treatment plant at Coal

1665
01:19:13,853 --> 01:19:16,452
Speaker 2: Creek has been shut down. That the Council is asking

1666
01:19:16,492 --> 01:19:21,293
Speaker 2: people to please urgently conserve water as the Omato Reserve

1667
01:19:21,652 --> 01:19:23,732
Speaker 2: is starting to run low.

1668
01:19:24,372 --> 01:19:26,972
Speaker 3: Yes and one O war two A wong Anui region

1669
01:19:27,093 --> 01:19:30,333
Speaker 3: has two thousand properties without power. And we just had

1670
01:19:30,372 --> 01:19:33,333
Speaker 3: a text update that there's some power outages in mos

1671
01:19:33,412 --> 01:19:35,692
Speaker 3: Girl as well. And just a heads up, we are

1672
01:19:35,812 --> 01:19:39,492
Speaker 3: expecting a stand up from Emergency Minister Mark Mitchell at

1673
01:19:39,652 --> 01:19:43,053
Speaker 3: three forty five and about thirty minutes he's going to

1674
01:19:43,093 --> 01:19:45,253
Speaker 3: give you an update on the latest of the state

1675
01:19:45,253 --> 01:19:47,492
Speaker 3: of emergency in christ jug En, Canterbury.

1676
01:19:47,612 --> 01:19:50,213
Speaker 2: And someone's just texted that Moscule is the powers down

1677
01:19:50,253 --> 01:19:50,732
Speaker 2: a Moscule?

1678
01:19:51,213 --> 01:19:51,372
Speaker 4: Right?

1679
01:19:51,652 --> 01:19:53,452
Speaker 2: And you know how we were talking before a couple

1680
01:19:53,492 --> 01:19:55,692
Speaker 2: of hours ago, now hour and a half ago, Haybag

1681
01:19:56,173 --> 01:19:58,652
Speaker 2: he was fanging down towards Foxton. He was trying to

1682
01:19:58,692 --> 01:20:02,492
Speaker 2: get home to lower Heart, I believe, yeah, but he

1683
01:20:03,053 --> 01:20:06,612
Speaker 2: decided to stop it at Foxton. I heard the powers

1684
01:20:06,612 --> 01:20:11,492
Speaker 2: out in Foxton. Heybag, Habag's pulled in for a beer

1685
01:20:11,532 --> 01:20:14,133
Speaker 2: and the powers out in Foxton. I can't confirm that,

1686
01:20:15,173 --> 01:20:16,852
Speaker 2: so maybe someone can help on nine two nine two

1687
01:20:16,973 --> 01:20:19,412
Speaker 2: is the power in Foxton? But I can confirm that

1688
01:20:19,492 --> 01:20:20,732
Speaker 2: Foxton foods still exist.

1689
01:20:20,893 --> 01:20:22,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is good. That's what we all want to know.

1690
01:20:22,893 --> 01:20:25,053
Speaker 3: Right back to the discussion we've been having about the

1691
01:20:25,213 --> 01:20:27,093
Speaker 3: mega strike. Do you think it will work?

1692
01:20:27,492 --> 01:20:27,572
Speaker 8: Oh?

1693
01:20:27,612 --> 01:20:29,173
Speaker 3: Eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1694
01:20:29,173 --> 01:20:29,452
Speaker 3: to call.

1695
01:20:29,772 --> 01:20:31,532
Speaker 2: This text says, hey, guys, it's a bit ironic that

1696
01:20:31,572 --> 01:20:33,412
Speaker 2: the country is a bit broke at the moment to

1697
01:20:33,492 --> 01:20:37,452
Speaker 2: pay the teachers what they want. Well, who broke the country? Labor?

1698
01:20:37,933 --> 01:20:41,572
Speaker 2: Who would most teachers vote for labor? Since this text?

1699
01:20:41,812 --> 01:20:42,213
Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

1700
01:20:43,532 --> 01:20:47,372
Speaker 2: Learning assistants Teachers aids are striking, and the reasons why

1701
01:20:48,253 --> 01:20:50,652
Speaker 2: haven't got a bit lost in the media. It's because

1702
01:20:50,732 --> 01:20:53,572
Speaker 2: three and every ten students that need extra support in

1703
01:20:53,612 --> 01:20:56,732
Speaker 2: the classroom are missing out. This impacts the unsupported student

1704
01:20:56,812 --> 01:20:59,093
Speaker 2: and their family, the teacher, and the other students in

1705
01:20:59,133 --> 01:21:02,652
Speaker 2: the class. Learning assistants are standing by their teacher colleagues

1706
01:21:02,652 --> 01:21:05,693
Speaker 2: and asking for a learning assistant in every state classroom.

1707
01:21:06,093 --> 01:21:08,892
Speaker 2: It's because there is no real job security. Positions are

1708
01:21:08,893 --> 01:21:12,852
Speaker 2: paid out of operation grants, not centrally funded. Teachers aids

1709
01:21:13,173 --> 01:21:15,572
Speaker 2: compete to be paid with the Power Bill and every

1710
01:21:15,652 --> 01:21:19,412
Speaker 2: other rising operational cost. A teacher aid A funding review

1711
01:21:19,492 --> 01:21:22,892
Speaker 2: that recommends central funding was put on their Minister's desk

1712
01:21:23,293 --> 01:21:26,093
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three and has not been actioned. That

1713
01:21:26,173 --> 01:21:29,333
Speaker 2: have been a different minister's desk. It's because pay equity

1714
01:21:29,572 --> 01:21:32,253
Speaker 2: has achieved in twenty twenty, but since then pay has

1715
01:21:32,293 --> 01:21:36,012
Speaker 2: fallen seventeen cent below pay equity due to stagnant wages.

1716
01:21:36,492 --> 01:21:38,812
Speaker 2: It's because in their wisdom, the government decided to get

1717
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:42,133
Speaker 2: rid of pay equity review clauses this year that would

1718
01:21:42,173 --> 01:21:45,852
Speaker 2: have stopped wages going backwards against inflation and pay equity

1719
01:21:45,893 --> 01:21:49,492
Speaker 2: effectively being lost again. A support staff contract expired in

1720
01:21:49,572 --> 01:21:53,012
Speaker 2: December last year. The best of three officers sixty cents

1721
01:21:53,093 --> 01:21:55,772
Speaker 2: in year one, fifteen cents in year two and twenty

1722
01:21:55,812 --> 01:21:59,173
Speaker 2: five cents in year three. It's to stand beside our

1723
01:21:59,213 --> 01:22:04,772
Speaker 2: teachers and school support staff, librarians, livery assistants, administration support

1724
01:22:04,893 --> 01:22:11,053
Speaker 2: and science technology technicians colleagues because we believe in tomariki

1725
01:22:11,133 --> 01:22:16,253
Speaker 2: in education and they all deserve more. So there was

1726
01:22:16,293 --> 01:22:16,532
Speaker 2: a lot.

1727
01:22:16,772 --> 01:22:19,612
Speaker 3: It's complex, very complex, but thank you for that information.

1728
01:22:19,692 --> 01:22:23,333
Speaker 3: It's a good text, but there's a lot in there. Louise,

1729
01:22:23,452 --> 01:22:27,572
Speaker 3: you're a PSA excuse me PSA delegate, Is that right? Yes, yep,

1730
01:22:28,173 --> 01:22:30,093
Speaker 3: Nice to have you on. So are you on the

1731
01:22:30,492 --> 01:22:32,652
Speaker 3: teachers side of things, or you're from the health.

1732
01:22:32,612 --> 01:22:33,173
Speaker 7: Side of things.

1733
01:22:33,732 --> 01:22:37,572
Speaker 29: I'm in health. I'm an Allied Health assistant and I'm

1734
01:22:37,652 --> 01:22:41,093
Speaker 29: a PSA delegate here in Blenham. I'm also on the

1735
01:22:41,293 --> 01:22:44,293
Speaker 29: bargaining team with tafata Ura for our collective agreement.

1736
01:22:44,652 --> 01:22:47,652
Speaker 2: So do you think it's helpful that you guys and

1737
01:22:47,812 --> 01:22:49,812
Speaker 2: your demands, which are very different from the teachers are

1738
01:22:49,812 --> 01:22:52,253
Speaker 2: all being lumped together in this mega strike, because what

1739
01:22:52,333 --> 01:22:54,093
Speaker 2: we're sort of hearing on the text machine is people

1740
01:22:54,093 --> 01:22:56,532
Speaker 2: are getting very confused between the two.

1741
01:22:57,572 --> 01:22:57,772
Speaker 16: See.

1742
01:22:58,053 --> 01:23:01,092
Speaker 29: I think it's really important for people to just remember

1743
01:23:01,213 --> 01:23:06,173
Speaker 29: that the public service as a whole is one big

1744
01:23:06,293 --> 01:23:09,053
Speaker 29: part of where our tax money goes, and it's the

1745
01:23:09,173 --> 01:23:12,293
Speaker 29: public service that we're trying to draw attention to with this.

1746
01:23:12,973 --> 01:23:15,452
Speaker 29: That's my understanding of why we're doing this combined strike,

1747
01:23:15,612 --> 01:23:16,253
Speaker 29: the MAGA strike.

1748
01:23:17,652 --> 01:23:21,692
Speaker 2: Right, But do you think you know that that? But

1749
01:23:21,812 --> 01:23:24,492
Speaker 2: when you when you you know, when you bring that

1750
01:23:24,612 --> 01:23:28,812
Speaker 2: to the attention, do you also understand that that say,

1751
01:23:28,973 --> 01:23:32,572
Speaker 2: someone's at home because their teachers are striking and so

1752
01:23:32,853 --> 01:23:34,492
Speaker 2: they're they're having to take it do off work. Like

1753
01:23:34,532 --> 01:23:36,412
Speaker 2: a number of people have texted in and called in

1754
01:23:36,492 --> 01:23:41,492
Speaker 2: and said they may have a lot of appreciation for nurses,

1755
01:23:41,532 --> 01:23:44,812
Speaker 2: say because the nurses help them recently, but at the

1756
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:47,612
Speaker 2: same time having not much having a little bit of

1757
01:23:47,652 --> 01:23:49,812
Speaker 2: resentment towards the teachers because the teachers don't appear to

1758
01:23:49,893 --> 01:23:51,012
Speaker 2: be helping them. Do you see what I'm saying?

1759
01:23:51,452 --> 01:23:51,893
Speaker 16: Yeah, I do.

1760
01:23:52,173 --> 01:23:54,093
Speaker 29: I see that, and I understand it. I think it's

1761
01:23:54,133 --> 01:23:57,412
Speaker 29: a little bit like, you know, voting a certain way.

1762
01:23:57,812 --> 01:24:00,852
Speaker 29: Maybe you don't love every single member of Parliament who's

1763
01:24:00,933 --> 01:24:03,612
Speaker 29: running for that party, but overall you're still voting for

1764
01:24:03,652 --> 01:24:06,492
Speaker 29: the party. I think it's That's how I see it. Anyway,

1765
01:24:06,772 --> 01:24:10,893
Speaker 29: the public sector deserves fun and it we shouldn't be

1766
01:24:10,973 --> 01:24:13,812
Speaker 29: losing our funding at the for the benefit of the

1767
01:24:13,853 --> 01:24:16,652
Speaker 29: private sector, which is what appears to be happening.

1768
01:24:16,853 --> 01:24:17,013
Speaker 11: Well.

1769
01:24:17,093 --> 01:24:19,812
Speaker 2: New Zealand faces type budgets at the moment. Obviously we've

1770
01:24:19,853 --> 01:24:23,732
Speaker 2: got huge we're huge rising det Why because why we

1771
01:24:23,772 --> 01:24:26,572
Speaker 2: got huge rising dit because we borrowed too much money.

1772
01:24:27,412 --> 01:24:30,732
Speaker 29: But why One of the reasons why we face budget

1773
01:24:31,853 --> 01:24:35,293
Speaker 29: shortages at the moment is choices that this government has made.

1774
01:24:35,372 --> 01:24:38,092
Speaker 29: And I feel personally this is I'm not an accountant,

1775
01:24:38,173 --> 01:24:40,412
Speaker 29: this is my personal take on things. I feel like

1776
01:24:41,053 --> 01:24:44,452
Speaker 29: the decisions that they're making are not being they're not

1777
01:24:44,532 --> 01:24:47,492
Speaker 29: being held to account for, so bad decisions that end

1778
01:24:47,572 --> 01:24:51,253
Speaker 29: up costing less money, like what for example, like giving

1779
01:24:51,732 --> 01:24:58,452
Speaker 29: massive tax breaks to private certain private sectors, it ends

1780
01:24:58,532 --> 01:25:01,333
Speaker 29: up costing the public sector because they're taking money.

1781
01:25:01,572 --> 01:25:04,012
Speaker 2: What particular private sectors are you talking about?

1782
01:25:04,732 --> 01:25:06,612
Speaker 29: For example, hot tobacco.

1783
01:25:07,173 --> 01:25:09,772
Speaker 2: So let's move on from that one, because that one's

1784
01:25:09,812 --> 01:25:12,372
Speaker 2: too complicated and it wasn't an example. No, but that

1785
01:25:12,452 --> 01:25:14,053
Speaker 2: one's not really I mean, if you go into that,

1786
01:25:14,213 --> 01:25:16,452
Speaker 2: we go back and forth on that, anyone argues on it,

1787
01:25:16,492 --> 01:25:21,253
Speaker 2: and it's not really it's it's not really. That's not

1788
01:25:21,372 --> 01:25:22,732
Speaker 2: really Okay, all.

1789
01:25:22,652 --> 01:25:25,412
Speaker 29: Right, So several billion dollars have come out of the

1790
01:25:25,933 --> 01:25:29,572
Speaker 29: public purse, out of the government's purse and gone towards

1791
01:25:29,652 --> 01:25:33,572
Speaker 29: to tax breaks for income that's earned by landlords and

1792
01:25:33,812 --> 01:25:34,972
Speaker 29: changes to the break line test.

1793
01:25:35,213 --> 01:25:37,932
Speaker 2: But but I mean that's once again, why would landlords

1794
01:25:37,973 --> 01:25:40,652
Speaker 2: be treated different from any other business? I mean, that's

1795
01:25:40,732 --> 01:25:42,932
Speaker 2: just that's just right, that's just that's just changing, that's

1796
01:25:43,053 --> 01:25:45,812
Speaker 2: just that's just rolling back something. There was a labour

1797
01:25:45,933 --> 01:25:49,172
Speaker 2: changed it and national changed it back, right, Yeah.

1798
01:25:49,053 --> 01:25:51,293
Speaker 29: They changed it back, and it cost us money.

1799
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:52,372
Speaker 20: It lost us.

1800
01:25:52,412 --> 01:25:55,253
Speaker 2: Money bought rents down, though, didn't it.

1801
01:25:56,372 --> 01:25:59,652
Speaker 29: I'm not entirely sure that it did. But it's income.

1802
01:25:59,692 --> 01:26:02,852
Speaker 29: Why shouldn't income be taxed as income? If it was

1803
01:26:02,933 --> 01:26:05,492
Speaker 29: money that those people were earning out their jobs, they

1804
01:26:05,492 --> 01:26:07,133
Speaker 29: would pay a certain level of tax on it.

1805
01:26:07,293 --> 01:26:07,852
Speaker 14: Why we aren't they.

1806
01:26:07,812 --> 01:26:09,172
Speaker 29: Paying their earning process?

1807
01:26:09,412 --> 01:26:11,372
Speaker 2: Well, because in any business, you have to be able

1808
01:26:11,412 --> 01:26:14,253
Speaker 2: to write off certain expenses, the expenses that it takes

1809
01:26:14,293 --> 01:26:16,213
Speaker 2: to earn the money. I mean, that's how that's how

1810
01:26:17,013 --> 01:26:20,213
Speaker 2: all business works, right, because because you don't, you have

1811
01:26:20,412 --> 01:26:22,612
Speaker 2: certain expenses you have to pay to make your money.

1812
01:26:22,652 --> 01:26:24,572
Speaker 2: And that's and their government takes that into account.

1813
01:26:25,732 --> 01:26:28,412
Speaker 29: You may have a much better understanding than idea about

1814
01:26:28,452 --> 01:26:33,652
Speaker 29: these things. In my understanding. The one of the reasons

1815
01:26:33,692 --> 01:26:36,692
Speaker 29: that the budget is so constrained right now is because

1816
01:26:36,893 --> 01:26:39,492
Speaker 29: of decisions that have been made by the government to

1817
01:26:40,013 --> 01:26:44,933
Speaker 29: specifically not to fund the public service. So do you

1818
01:26:45,133 --> 01:26:45,932
Speaker 29: do fund health?

1819
01:26:46,173 --> 01:26:49,772
Speaker 2: And then there is there's there's there's a finite amount

1820
01:26:49,812 --> 01:26:52,852
Speaker 2: of money though, so so any any government, and the

1821
01:26:52,973 --> 01:26:56,892
Speaker 2: previous government was the same. And of course teachers were

1822
01:26:56,933 --> 01:27:00,053
Speaker 2: striking then as well, and nurses were striking then as well,

1823
01:27:00,412 --> 01:27:03,532
Speaker 2: So there is a said amount of money. So if

1824
01:27:03,572 --> 01:27:06,412
Speaker 2: you pay teachers and nurses more, for example, if we're

1825
01:27:06,452 --> 01:27:09,293
Speaker 2: just talking about pay, that's a pay hat for everyone else.

1826
01:27:10,412 --> 01:27:11,253
Speaker 2: Did you see what I'm saying?

1827
01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:15,893
Speaker 29: I actually I disagree because I think that when we

1828
01:27:16,173 --> 01:27:21,692
Speaker 29: have a healthy public sector, the economy thrives. People aren't

1829
01:27:23,333 --> 01:27:29,133
Speaker 29: in physical straits, not in emergency situations because they weren't

1830
01:27:29,173 --> 01:27:31,053
Speaker 29: able to get the healthcare that they should have had,

1831
01:27:31,093 --> 01:27:33,812
Speaker 29: the preventative healthcare, or the healthcare when it was just

1832
01:27:33,853 --> 01:27:37,612
Speaker 29: a small problem. And that has an economic effect. So

1833
01:27:38,173 --> 01:27:43,012
Speaker 29: when there are suddenly less preventive programs because that money

1834
01:27:43,053 --> 01:27:46,333
Speaker 29: has all been cut, people get sicker, and that costs

1835
01:27:46,412 --> 01:27:49,293
Speaker 29: us more money, far more money. It's the ambulance at

1836
01:27:49,293 --> 01:27:51,612
Speaker 29: the bottom of the hill, isn't it. Instead of stopping

1837
01:27:51,652 --> 01:27:53,612
Speaker 29: the people from getting sick in the first place, we

1838
01:27:53,772 --> 01:27:56,532
Speaker 29: end up catching them at the bottom with big, long queues,

1839
01:27:56,612 --> 01:27:58,093
Speaker 29: and that costs us a lot more money.

1840
01:27:58,372 --> 01:28:00,893
Speaker 3: But bake full circle the ways I mean. This is

1841
01:28:01,013 --> 01:28:03,293
Speaker 3: arguably the issue with this mega strike that you've got

1842
01:28:03,333 --> 01:28:07,333
Speaker 3: all the public servants striking for various different reasons, is that,

1843
01:28:07,772 --> 01:28:11,133
Speaker 3: no doubt, it's been proven that there was leakage and

1844
01:28:11,213 --> 01:28:14,532
Speaker 3: overspend and wastage within the public service, not the health

1845
01:28:14,572 --> 01:28:18,253
Speaker 3: system necessarily, but that was proven. So people look at

1846
01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:20,452
Speaker 3: that element and they see that they're in a private

1847
01:28:20,532 --> 01:28:22,013
Speaker 3: sector and they haven't got a pay rise for a

1848
01:28:22,053 --> 01:28:24,293
Speaker 3: couple of years because it's tough at the moment and

1849
01:28:24,412 --> 01:28:28,772
Speaker 3: everybody struggling, and then see what's going on today, and

1850
01:28:28,893 --> 01:28:31,133
Speaker 3: they start to wonder and whether this is fear. This

1851
01:28:31,213 --> 01:28:32,732
Speaker 3: is a question to you, whether it's fear. They start

1852
01:28:32,772 --> 01:28:35,333
Speaker 3: to wonder, why why can't you guys dig in for

1853
01:28:35,372 --> 01:28:36,772
Speaker 3: a bit as well until things get better.

1854
01:28:38,013 --> 01:28:41,732
Speaker 29: But we're talking about no pay increases or pay increases

1855
01:28:41,772 --> 01:28:45,532
Speaker 29: that come far under what their cost of inflation is.

1856
01:28:47,452 --> 01:28:50,652
Speaker 29: So we're actually doing more work because they've cut our

1857
01:28:50,692 --> 01:28:54,732
Speaker 29: staff considerably, so we have far more work to do,

1858
01:28:55,293 --> 01:28:59,173
Speaker 29: longer wait lists, a lot more anxiety over not being

1859
01:28:59,253 --> 01:29:02,093
Speaker 29: able to get to our patients. And I think this

1860
01:29:02,253 --> 01:29:07,572
Speaker 29: is probably similar for education for less money than what

1861
01:29:07,732 --> 01:29:10,652
Speaker 29: it was, say two years ago, when we were keeping

1862
01:29:10,732 --> 01:29:11,333
Speaker 29: up with inflation.

1863
01:29:11,853 --> 01:29:16,413
Speaker 2: So is it for you more about pay or about conditions?

1864
01:29:17,133 --> 01:29:17,173
Speaker 24: No?

1865
01:29:17,213 --> 01:29:20,053
Speaker 2: No, do you think things would go better because you

1866
01:29:20,093 --> 01:29:22,133
Speaker 2: know everyone's doing it tough at the moment, and in

1867
01:29:22,213 --> 01:29:25,452
Speaker 2: the private sector, no one's getting pay increases as tighter, says,

1868
01:29:25,812 --> 01:29:30,572
Speaker 2: so if the pay increase part of this was cut,

1869
01:29:30,812 --> 01:29:35,692
Speaker 2: so the teachers and the health sector people that are

1870
01:29:35,692 --> 01:29:38,293
Speaker 2: striking said, okay, no, it's all about conditions. It's all

1871
01:29:38,333 --> 01:29:41,652
Speaker 2: about the service that we can provide to children and

1872
01:29:42,093 --> 01:29:44,852
Speaker 2: people in need of health care. It's not about our money.

1873
01:29:45,173 --> 01:29:46,333
Speaker 2: We'll just take that off the top.

1874
01:29:47,333 --> 01:29:48,972
Speaker 29: I don't think you can say that as a blanket,

1875
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:53,213
Speaker 29: because there are certainly some sectors where, for example, they

1876
01:29:53,732 --> 01:29:57,012
Speaker 29: didn't get their pay equity through in time and before

1877
01:29:57,293 --> 01:30:00,372
Speaker 29: it was canceled, so and those people are still on

1878
01:30:00,532 --> 01:30:06,412
Speaker 29: salaries that are ridiculously low compared to say, for example,

1879
01:30:06,492 --> 01:30:09,732
Speaker 29: the community support workers Karen support workers in the community.

1880
01:30:10,532 --> 01:30:12,093
Speaker 29: And I know you've just talked about all the ones

1881
01:30:12,173 --> 01:30:16,333
Speaker 29: in the last texture mentioned in education. So for the

1882
01:30:16,333 --> 01:30:19,613
Speaker 29: people that haven't got pay equity, their salaries are shockingly

1883
01:30:19,692 --> 01:30:23,532
Speaker 29: low and barely about minimum wage. So for them, I

1884
01:30:23,652 --> 01:30:26,772
Speaker 29: think that that pay is probably needs to be on

1885
01:30:26,853 --> 01:30:32,093
Speaker 29: the table. For the most part, though, funding the sector adequately,

1886
01:30:33,412 --> 01:30:38,412
Speaker 29: having enough staff, approving funding for enough staff, actually canceling

1887
01:30:38,492 --> 01:30:41,692
Speaker 29: hiring freezers and being able to have enough staff would

1888
01:30:41,973 --> 01:30:43,372
Speaker 29: make a massive difference.

1889
01:30:43,452 --> 01:30:45,692
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, thank you so much for you call Louise

1890
01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:46,933
Speaker 2: appreciate you calling in.

1891
01:30:47,053 --> 01:30:50,093
Speaker 3: I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. Louise was a

1892
01:30:50,173 --> 01:30:53,253
Speaker 3: PSA delegate on the health side of things, so you

1893
01:30:53,333 --> 01:30:55,652
Speaker 3: heard what she had to say. Keen on your thoughts,

1894
01:30:55,652 --> 01:30:57,692
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty And do you think

1895
01:30:57,772 --> 01:31:00,972
Speaker 3: this strike will work? It's eighteen past three US talks.

1896
01:31:00,973 --> 01:31:03,813
Speaker 3: It'd be afternoon. We're talking about the so called megastrike.

1897
01:31:04,372 --> 01:31:06,412
Speaker 2: This tix To says, I'm sorry, but I'm finding it

1898
01:31:06,452 --> 01:31:08,852
Speaker 2: hard to support this latest strike. As a report worker

1899
01:31:08,933 --> 01:31:11,133
Speaker 2: looking after people in their own homes, I am paid

1900
01:31:11,173 --> 01:31:15,333
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars seventy nine per hour when with a client,

1901
01:31:15,452 --> 01:31:18,053
Speaker 2: only paid travel in between, in which I use my

1902
01:31:18,093 --> 01:31:21,452
Speaker 2: own vehicle for beg. Pardon and work long hours. Our

1903
01:31:21,572 --> 01:31:23,972
Speaker 2: job is to keep people independent in their own homes.

1904
01:31:24,013 --> 01:31:27,532
Speaker 2: So without support workers, care homes and hospitals would be

1905
01:31:27,652 --> 01:31:30,652
Speaker 2: even busier, while I treasure the work doctors, teachers, nurses

1906
01:31:30,732 --> 01:31:32,812
Speaker 2: are doing. Come on, guys, lots of us are working

1907
01:31:32,933 --> 01:31:35,253
Speaker 2: very hard for a lot less and in some cases

1908
01:31:35,532 --> 01:31:38,892
Speaker 2: worse hours from a hard working support worker. Okay, thank

1909
01:31:38,973 --> 01:31:39,692
Speaker 2: you for your text.

1910
01:31:40,013 --> 01:31:42,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they are incredibly valuable, no doubt about it.

1911
01:31:42,333 --> 01:31:42,972
Speaker 3: Support workers.

1912
01:31:43,253 --> 01:31:46,732
Speaker 2: So Howard says, so back to tax breaks for landlords, etc.

1913
01:31:47,452 --> 01:31:50,892
Speaker 2: Which is something that gets brought up constantly, which prior

1914
01:31:50,933 --> 01:31:53,732
Speaker 2: to labor that money wasn't in the system anyway. So

1915
01:31:53,853 --> 01:31:57,452
Speaker 2: it's just typical unions bashing a government. Stop wasting everyone's time.

1916
01:31:58,532 --> 01:32:00,772
Speaker 3: Plenty of techs coming through A nine to two ninety

1917
01:32:00,772 --> 01:32:03,612
Speaker 3: two hundreds coming. If you want to send a teacher,

1918
01:32:03,692 --> 01:32:04,893
Speaker 3: more than welcome.

1919
01:32:05,333 --> 01:32:07,532
Speaker 2: Here you go. This Texas came through. If Nichola can

1920
01:32:07,572 --> 01:32:09,492
Speaker 2: find money for tax cats, I'm sure she can find

1921
01:32:09,532 --> 01:32:10,972
Speaker 2: money to get this country moving.

1922
01:32:11,412 --> 01:32:13,652
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Right, we're a little bit late

1923
01:32:13,692 --> 01:32:16,132
Speaker 3: because we had a big conversation with Luise from the PSA.

1924
01:32:16,532 --> 01:32:19,133
Speaker 3: But it is twenty two pass three. Taking your calls

1925
01:32:19,173 --> 01:32:21,092
Speaker 3: next on OH eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1926
01:32:24,732 --> 01:32:26,052
Speaker 4: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

1927
01:32:26,213 --> 01:32:29,412
Speaker 1: Afternoons call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty on US

1928
01:32:29,492 --> 01:32:30,333
Speaker 1: Talk SB.

1929
01:32:30,333 --> 01:32:33,053
Speaker 3: Twenty five pass three. So nine two nine till is

1930
01:32:33,093 --> 01:32:35,133
Speaker 3: the text number. Keen to get your thoughts on this

1931
01:32:35,372 --> 01:32:36,572
Speaker 3: mega strike. Is it going to work?

1932
01:32:36,812 --> 01:32:38,692
Speaker 2: I think it's funny with the show, and I really

1933
01:32:38,772 --> 01:32:40,892
Speaker 2: enjoy it. I enjoy the conversation. It's it's a great time.

1934
01:32:41,572 --> 01:32:44,932
Speaker 2: But when anyone calls in, I think I believe it's

1935
01:32:44,973 --> 01:32:45,372
Speaker 2: our job.

1936
01:32:45,652 --> 01:32:45,852
Speaker 3: Yep.

1937
01:32:46,013 --> 01:32:48,492
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Socrates, so creates as I

1938
01:32:48,532 --> 01:32:52,333
Speaker 2: call them, Yep, big fan, my big. Our job is

1939
01:32:52,532 --> 01:32:55,333
Speaker 2: to ask the opposing question to their opinion, just to

1940
01:32:55,412 --> 01:32:58,333
Speaker 2: question what they're saying, right, yeah. And as soon as

1941
01:32:58,372 --> 01:33:00,932
Speaker 2: you do that, it just swings back and forth where

1942
01:33:00,933 --> 01:33:03,852
Speaker 2: people accusing you in the most aggressive terms of being

1943
01:33:03,933 --> 01:33:07,093
Speaker 2: on one side or the other. And so you get

1944
01:33:07,732 --> 01:33:12,092
Speaker 2: just text to text where you're being abused from both sides.

1945
01:33:12,173 --> 01:33:14,173
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad you said that, but I was

1946
01:33:14,213 --> 01:33:16,093
Speaker 3: thinking the same thing. I just saw them pop up

1947
01:33:16,173 --> 01:33:18,652
Speaker 3: and I just thought, hey, we're having that part of

1948
01:33:18,732 --> 01:33:22,492
Speaker 3: conversation as you ask questions and you challenge points of view. Yeah,

1949
01:33:22,612 --> 01:33:24,652
Speaker 3: that's kind of our job here. But boy oh boy.

1950
01:33:24,812 --> 01:33:27,133
Speaker 2: So you listen to people, you let people have a say,

1951
01:33:27,372 --> 01:33:30,893
Speaker 2: and then you put the opposing opinion. You know, you

1952
01:33:31,013 --> 01:33:33,732
Speaker 2: try and steal my steel man either side of the argument, right.

1953
01:33:33,893 --> 01:33:37,092
Speaker 3: Yeah. But people don't like that, apparently, No, people.

1954
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:39,772
Speaker 2: Hate that everyone. Yeah, you just scat But it's just

1955
01:33:39,812 --> 01:33:42,492
Speaker 2: so funny. It's like from both sides you're being accused

1956
01:33:42,532 --> 01:33:44,173
Speaker 2: of because people only hear what they want to hear.

1957
01:33:44,293 --> 01:33:44,492
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1958
01:33:44,732 --> 01:33:47,692
Speaker 2: So it's so people are angry and if you don't

1959
01:33:47,732 --> 01:33:49,772
Speaker 2: say exactly, even if you're asking a question of someone,

1960
01:33:49,772 --> 01:33:53,093
Speaker 2: if you don't say exactly what they agree with, even

1961
01:33:53,133 --> 01:33:54,772
Speaker 2: if there's a question mark at the end of it,

1962
01:33:55,532 --> 01:33:59,293
Speaker 2: then they blow their top like a kettle and fire

1963
01:33:59,333 --> 01:34:00,132
Speaker 2: a few abuse.

1964
01:34:00,293 --> 01:34:00,492
Speaker 4: Yep.

1965
01:34:00,612 --> 01:34:03,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you love it. I'm still getting used to it.

1966
01:34:03,372 --> 01:34:05,093
Speaker 3: But you know, I love it. I just dislike it.

1967
01:34:05,213 --> 01:34:07,333
Speaker 2: I love it, but I just worry for people's sanity. Yeah,

1968
01:34:07,372 --> 01:34:13,253
Speaker 2: that they can't even handle hearing a question, a questioning

1969
01:34:13,333 --> 01:34:14,052
Speaker 2: of their opinions.

1970
01:34:14,173 --> 01:34:15,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, just take a breath, have a cup of tea.

1971
01:34:16,253 --> 01:34:17,133
Speaker 2: Steve, welcome the show.

1972
01:34:18,213 --> 01:34:20,612
Speaker 13: How hi, can you hear your own I'm in my bed.

1973
01:34:21,133 --> 01:34:24,253
Speaker 2: We can hear you loud and clear, Steve, beautiful.

1974
01:34:24,612 --> 01:34:27,132
Speaker 13: So just you know, covering that subcrates of the argument.

1975
01:34:27,253 --> 01:34:31,093
Speaker 13: So we'velet like diversa opinion. At least we're supposed to

1976
01:34:31,093 --> 01:34:33,852
Speaker 13: be getting the best result the argument, you know that

1977
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:37,492
Speaker 13: rolls out the right answer? How do you move forward

1978
01:34:37,572 --> 01:34:41,173
Speaker 13: from here? So I argue with my wife constantly, Well,

1979
01:34:41,293 --> 01:34:45,133
Speaker 13: we discuss it constantly. So this I just want to

1980
01:34:45,173 --> 01:34:49,053
Speaker 13: represent the small business owner and this discussion, So the

1981
01:34:49,133 --> 01:34:51,772
Speaker 13: PSA person was saying about the you know, the flashing

1982
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:55,532
Speaker 13: of job numbers in that area and so forth. Sure

1983
01:34:55,732 --> 01:34:57,812
Speaker 13: it takes that money out of the system, and it

1984
01:34:57,933 --> 01:35:02,572
Speaker 13: doesn't get spent in. Small businesses suffer. Private business suffers

1985
01:35:02,732 --> 01:35:05,253
Speaker 13: just as much. But we don't get a guaranteed pay

1986
01:35:05,412 --> 01:35:10,293
Speaker 13: rise every year. We have to struggle through pay egst

1987
01:35:10,612 --> 01:35:14,053
Speaker 13: all the extra costs that are throwing at us. And

1988
01:35:15,173 --> 01:35:17,612
Speaker 13: basically when we're not making it through the door, we're

1989
01:35:17,652 --> 01:35:22,493
Speaker 13: normally funding it or financing it ourselves personally until businesses

1990
01:35:22,532 --> 01:35:25,692
Speaker 13: fall over. Now we've been losing a business a day,

1991
01:35:26,133 --> 01:35:31,412
Speaker 13: you know, just you know recently, so businesses are still failing.

1992
01:35:31,532 --> 01:35:35,692
Speaker 13: Private businesses and they haven't got that certainty that does

1993
01:35:35,853 --> 01:35:39,852
Speaker 13: come with the PSA or belonging to that. Education and

1994
01:35:40,013 --> 01:35:43,532
Speaker 13: nurses and so forth. They deserve more money. Don't get

1995
01:35:43,572 --> 01:35:47,013
Speaker 13: me wrong. My wife will argue, well, what about the politicians.

1996
01:35:47,093 --> 01:35:51,133
Speaker 13: They were on level footing with detachers and nurses with pay.

1997
01:35:51,612 --> 01:35:53,852
Speaker 13: Do we need as many counselors, you know, making so

1998
01:35:53,973 --> 01:35:58,053
Speaker 13: much money as well? You know, surely it's time for

1999
01:35:58,173 --> 01:36:00,452
Speaker 13: them to take a little bit of a lead by

2000
01:36:00,572 --> 01:36:03,612
Speaker 13: example and take a bit of a chat and tightened

2001
01:36:03,652 --> 01:36:05,732
Speaker 13: a belt. But there is only a certain pot of

2002
01:36:05,772 --> 01:36:08,972
Speaker 13: money to fix all these problems. So when you're robbed

2003
01:36:09,013 --> 01:36:12,612
Speaker 13: from Peter, Paul has to pay. I don't see, you know.

2004
01:36:12,933 --> 01:36:15,133
Speaker 13: And if it's the numbers in this whole idea that

2005
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:17,412
Speaker 13: they're saying, I know, it's not about the cash that

2006
01:36:17,532 --> 01:36:21,092
Speaker 13: we want extra, it's actually about the provision of starving

2007
01:36:21,173 --> 01:36:23,932
Speaker 13: numbers and so well, I'm pretty sure that they've put

2008
01:36:24,053 --> 01:36:26,932
Speaker 13: things in place to hire new people, and that takes

2009
01:36:27,013 --> 01:36:29,333
Speaker 13: time to train them up and get them on board.

2010
01:36:29,692 --> 01:36:34,612
Speaker 2: Now, Steve, would you agree though, essentially with Louise from

2011
01:36:34,652 --> 01:36:37,412
Speaker 2: the PSA who rang and before in her claims around

2012
01:36:37,452 --> 01:36:41,012
Speaker 2: the symbiotic relationship between the public sector and the private sector.

2013
01:36:41,372 --> 01:36:44,173
Speaker 2: If the public sector is working for lee, let's say,

2014
01:36:44,372 --> 01:36:47,053
Speaker 2: let's talk about teachers, for example. If teachers and the

2015
01:36:47,213 --> 01:36:52,612
Speaker 2: education system is firing, then they're producing well balanced, smart

2016
01:36:53,013 --> 01:36:56,012
Speaker 2: people that can add to the private sector and firing

2017
01:36:56,572 --> 01:37:00,133
Speaker 2: fantastic workers and leaders into the system. And if the

2018
01:37:00,213 --> 01:37:05,732
Speaker 2: health sectors are working, then when the private sector's workers

2019
01:37:05,772 --> 01:37:07,572
Speaker 2: get sick, we can patch them up and get them

2020
01:37:07,612 --> 01:37:10,612
Speaker 2: back and through the door to continue working.

2021
01:37:11,692 --> 01:37:13,772
Speaker 13: I think that the two groups or three groups that

2022
01:37:13,812 --> 01:37:18,333
Speaker 13: you're talking to doctors, nurses, you know, teachers there the

2023
01:37:19,173 --> 01:37:22,013
Speaker 13: most needed, you know, but the public service covers a

2024
01:37:22,133 --> 01:37:24,173
Speaker 13: lot of people, and there were a lot of people

2025
01:37:24,333 --> 01:37:27,892
Speaker 13: hired for COVID that were short term, and when COVID

2026
01:37:28,093 --> 01:37:32,852
Speaker 13: was fixed or ran its course, then there needed to

2027
01:37:32,933 --> 01:37:37,012
Speaker 13: be a reshrinkage, you know, a shrinking of that that group.

2028
01:37:38,093 --> 01:37:40,492
Speaker 13: So people, you know, it wasn't forever an ever job

2029
01:37:40,772 --> 01:37:43,253
Speaker 13: that was for the period while we had those numbers.

2030
01:37:43,652 --> 01:37:46,333
Speaker 13: So you know, there is a shrinkage there. But maybe

2031
01:37:46,372 --> 01:37:48,853
Speaker 13: a better way for the government to go is repurposing

2032
01:37:48,933 --> 01:37:51,892
Speaker 13: these people. How come we haven't got more people going

2033
01:37:51,933 --> 01:37:54,772
Speaker 13: into the schools as a teacher aide, you know, these

2034
01:37:54,893 --> 01:37:58,092
Speaker 13: unemployed people get involved with your kids, go to the classes,

2035
01:37:58,452 --> 01:38:00,772
Speaker 13: offer up your time, you know, if we can't afford

2036
01:38:00,812 --> 01:38:03,692
Speaker 13: to pay them, at least you know, volunteers the work

2037
01:38:04,173 --> 01:38:07,372
Speaker 13: to help our children through this hard period. It seems

2038
01:38:07,412 --> 01:38:11,213
Speaker 13: like we just want to put questions and problems build

2039
01:38:11,333 --> 01:38:14,333
Speaker 13: mountains in front of us rather than solving things.

2040
01:38:14,692 --> 01:38:16,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I see a point on the teacher

2041
01:38:16,732 --> 01:38:19,572
Speaker 2: ade thing where that's it's not a solid job though,

2042
01:38:19,692 --> 01:38:21,892
Speaker 2: So the teacher agent is just part of the budget

2043
01:38:21,933 --> 01:38:24,652
Speaker 2: for the school along with the you know, the whiteboard markers,

2044
01:38:25,013 --> 01:38:27,132
Speaker 2: and so some years they can afford more and sometimes

2045
01:38:27,213 --> 01:38:29,452
Speaker 2: years they can't whiteboard markers and might not be the

2046
01:38:29,973 --> 01:38:34,213
Speaker 2: best example, but you know, I mean, you go, so Steve,

2047
01:38:34,412 --> 01:38:34,772
Speaker 2: there you go.

2048
01:38:35,692 --> 01:38:40,252
Speaker 13: So you know, we're in a small town. We volunteer

2049
01:38:40,333 --> 01:38:43,213
Speaker 13: our time outside of work, we work full time hours,

2050
01:38:43,532 --> 01:38:45,492
Speaker 13: and we got involved with our school. There's no point

2051
01:38:45,492 --> 01:38:47,532
Speaker 13: in moaning about the results you're getting from the school

2052
01:38:47,732 --> 01:38:49,173
Speaker 13: if you're not going to step up and put some

2053
01:38:49,333 --> 01:38:52,333
Speaker 13: effort into trying to tune it around. And that just

2054
01:38:52,492 --> 01:38:57,333
Speaker 13: means volunteering some hours or time. That's fine. But I

2055
01:38:57,412 --> 01:39:00,452
Speaker 13: get your point about you know, we want to wage workers,

2056
01:39:00,532 --> 01:39:04,692
Speaker 13: we want better wages for everybody. But I'm afraid the

2057
01:39:04,772 --> 01:39:09,452
Speaker 13: bucket's dry and until we start you know, making some

2058
01:39:09,692 --> 01:39:14,173
Speaker 13: producing some money, and that the present government seems to

2059
01:39:14,293 --> 01:39:19,173
Speaker 13: be doing a lot to produce new income sources that

2060
01:39:19,372 --> 01:39:22,492
Speaker 13: coming into the country. I mean, we turned off our guests,

2061
01:39:22,692 --> 01:39:26,293
Speaker 13: we turned off a lot of industries. You know that

2062
01:39:26,772 --> 01:39:31,572
Speaker 13: we're going to provide money. So yeah, they're doing and

2063
01:39:31,692 --> 01:39:32,612
Speaker 13: open up more and more.

2064
01:39:33,492 --> 01:39:34,852
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for you call, Steve.

2065
01:39:34,973 --> 01:39:37,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good, good comments. So eight one hundred eighty

2066
01:39:37,372 --> 01:39:39,692
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Nine to niney

2067
01:39:39,692 --> 01:39:40,772
Speaker 3: two is the text number?

2068
01:39:41,053 --> 01:39:43,053
Speaker 2: Do you agree with them? One hundred eighteen eighty Do

2069
01:39:43,173 --> 01:39:45,452
Speaker 2: you not agree with them? One hundred eighteen eighty.

2070
01:39:45,333 --> 01:39:46,972
Speaker 3: Headlines with Raylene coming up.

2071
01:39:49,452 --> 01:39:53,053
Speaker 6: New Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2072
01:39:53,133 --> 01:39:57,492
Speaker 6: no trouble with a blue bubble. Severe weather continues across

2073
01:39:57,572 --> 01:40:01,092
Speaker 6: the South Island and Lower North, with red wind warnings

2074
01:40:01,093 --> 01:40:06,013
Speaker 6: still in play for parts of Southland, Pluther, Stewart Island, Canterbury, Marlborough,

2075
01:40:06,333 --> 01:40:09,893
Speaker 6: Wellington and Southern Wide and Upper the Rapower outages in

2076
01:40:09,973 --> 01:40:13,253
Speaker 6: many parts and a slew of road closures include the

2077
01:40:13,333 --> 01:40:17,172
Speaker 6: West Coast being cut off. NZTA set up a National

2078
01:40:17,253 --> 01:40:22,652
Speaker 6: Incident Management Team, Queenstown and Luther have activated emergency operations centers,

2079
01:40:22,973 --> 01:40:25,972
Speaker 6: and people in Gray District are being told to conserve water.

2080
01:40:26,652 --> 01:40:30,372
Speaker 6: Fires are still burning and Calkoda, Hawkes Bay and Hamna springs.

2081
01:40:31,612 --> 01:40:34,412
Speaker 6: The Right to Repair bill proposed by Green MP Madamer

2082
01:40:34,492 --> 01:40:38,253
Speaker 6: Davidson in a Member's Bill has been thrown out after

2083
01:40:38,333 --> 01:40:41,652
Speaker 6: she was seconds late to her speaking slot last night.

2084
01:40:42,093 --> 01:40:45,053
Speaker 6: She's apologized to those who worked on the legislation and

2085
01:40:45,173 --> 01:40:49,333
Speaker 6: says her bid to reinstate. The bill was rejected. Unions

2086
01:40:49,452 --> 01:40:52,452
Speaker 6: estimate more than ten thousand have turned out in Auckland today.

2087
01:40:52,812 --> 01:40:56,892
Speaker 6: In New Zealand's largest industrial action in decades, about one

2088
01:40:56,973 --> 01:41:00,333
Speaker 6: hundred thousand workers stopped work across the country, pressing the

2089
01:41:00,412 --> 01:41:05,452
Speaker 6: government on pay and conditions. Michael Hill's new CEO faces

2090
01:41:05,572 --> 01:41:09,612
Speaker 6: early test. Is the dueler's home markets lips Further you

2091
01:41:09,692 --> 01:41:12,012
Speaker 6: can read the full story at in, said Harold Premium

2092
01:41:12,532 --> 01:41:14,253
Speaker 6: back to matt Ethan Tyner, Adam.

2093
01:41:14,053 --> 01:41:15,973
Speaker 3: Thank you, ray Lean, and we are talking about this

2094
01:41:16,133 --> 01:41:18,412
Speaker 3: mega strike that is taking place in some parts of

2095
01:41:18,452 --> 01:41:21,213
Speaker 3: the country today due to that weather disruption. But do

2096
01:41:21,333 --> 01:41:22,612
Speaker 3: you think it is gonna work.

2097
01:41:22,812 --> 01:41:24,213
Speaker 2: I'm just going to take a second year to push

2098
01:41:24,253 --> 01:41:27,133
Speaker 2: back on some butt hurt text are here, So you

2099
01:41:27,293 --> 01:41:30,213
Speaker 2: just reduce my wife's role to whiteboard markets. Maybe think

2100
01:41:30,253 --> 01:41:33,133
Speaker 2: before you open your mouth, Maybe think before you get

2101
01:41:33,213 --> 01:41:37,933
Speaker 2: on your bloody thumbs out and text in. I was

2102
01:41:38,013 --> 01:41:41,412
Speaker 2: saying that it was bad that teachers aids are on

2103
01:41:41,492 --> 01:41:45,572
Speaker 2: the same discretionary budget as resources. See you know, I

2104
01:41:45,692 --> 01:41:49,053
Speaker 2: was just floating that idea that maybe we could get

2105
01:41:49,692 --> 01:41:53,132
Speaker 2: we could get some surety into the employment of teacher's

2106
01:41:53,173 --> 01:41:56,013
Speaker 2: aids and maybe that would help rather than them not

2107
01:41:56,133 --> 01:41:57,852
Speaker 2: knowing if they're going to be employed yet to year.

2108
01:41:58,812 --> 01:42:01,333
Speaker 3: So come on, man case in points.

2109
01:42:01,372 --> 01:42:03,372
Speaker 2: So just the thing that cracks me out, maybe think

2110
01:42:03,412 --> 01:42:05,933
Speaker 2: before you open your mouth, the idea that I'm not

2111
01:42:05,973 --> 01:42:07,613
Speaker 2: going to a second.

2112
01:42:10,093 --> 01:42:11,532
Speaker 3: John some of my tea. It's beautiful.

2113
01:42:11,652 --> 01:42:15,652
Speaker 2: The helmocracy hypocrasy of telling me to think before over

2114
01:42:15,732 --> 01:42:18,572
Speaker 2: my mouth when you blast out that idiotic text.

2115
01:42:18,933 --> 01:42:21,772
Speaker 3: You muppet people just hearing what they want to hear.

2116
01:42:22,652 --> 01:42:24,372
Speaker 3: But there's a whole lot of those people coming through

2117
01:42:24,492 --> 01:42:25,492
Speaker 3: nine two nine two.

2118
01:42:26,973 --> 01:42:29,253
Speaker 2: Mark every now and then I just have to vent.

2119
01:42:29,492 --> 01:42:32,812
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Mark, go Ratt and.

2120
01:42:32,853 --> 01:42:36,173
Speaker 14: Tyler and I have the answer. That's quite simple. You

2121
01:42:37,532 --> 01:42:39,852
Speaker 14: thissens for the schooling. I have a year old child

2122
01:42:39,893 --> 01:42:42,492
Speaker 14: of also put a rang a tamariki kids for higher

2123
01:42:42,572 --> 01:42:45,772
Speaker 14: special needs through schooling, and he's been the only person

2124
01:42:45,853 --> 01:42:48,412
Speaker 14: in North and West Aakland to actually get through tery

2125
01:42:48,532 --> 01:42:51,933
Speaker 14: to tertiary education. You separate them out. You have a

2126
01:42:52,652 --> 01:42:57,253
Speaker 14: one in three kids are supposed to be neurodiverse. Well

2127
01:42:57,293 --> 01:43:00,532
Speaker 14: you're making euro diverse school So in the area you

2128
01:43:00,612 --> 01:43:04,812
Speaker 14: have three schools, two are so called normal kids. The

2129
01:43:04,933 --> 01:43:10,013
Speaker 14: other school has been never classorm mirror diverse. Then those

2130
01:43:10,093 --> 01:43:12,253
Speaker 14: teachers aren't going to have to mark homework and stuff

2131
01:43:12,293 --> 01:43:14,133
Speaker 14: like that, But then they're going to be able to

2132
01:43:14,213 --> 01:43:17,492
Speaker 14: have two extra helpers in their class. My daughter current

2133
01:43:17,572 --> 01:43:21,093
Speaker 14: leaves inner class and when one of the boys has

2134
01:43:21,133 --> 01:43:24,973
Speaker 14: a hissy fit, the whole class has to leave and

2135
01:43:25,093 --> 01:43:27,893
Speaker 14: he has to stay in there. So you sort of

2136
01:43:28,053 --> 01:43:30,973
Speaker 14: have to realize that every single classroom, almost in the

2137
01:43:31,053 --> 01:43:35,173
Speaker 14: whole of New Zealand has teacher raids these days. I

2138
01:43:35,412 --> 01:43:38,173
Speaker 14: was one of the first children to ever experience down

2139
01:43:38,213 --> 01:43:41,812
Speaker 14: some drunkards in nineteen eighty seven in the classroom, and

2140
01:43:41,893 --> 01:43:44,213
Speaker 14: then I went off to high school and they were

2141
01:43:44,253 --> 01:43:47,972
Speaker 14: in a segregated block. And the simple factors, I'm pretty

2142
01:43:47,973 --> 01:43:51,492
Speaker 14: sure that person still has the same job pushing trolleys.

2143
01:43:52,213 --> 01:43:56,772
Speaker 14: But the simple you know, didn't make our learning any better,

2144
01:43:56,772 --> 01:43:58,812
Speaker 14: and it didn't make their learning any better. And the

2145
01:43:58,853 --> 01:44:01,372
Speaker 14: simple factor is, if we want our education to grow

2146
01:44:01,973 --> 01:44:04,172
Speaker 14: and be better, we got to look like it's Japan

2147
01:44:04,333 --> 01:44:08,613
Speaker 14: and other countries that don't have these mirrod diverse twosildren

2148
01:44:09,133 --> 01:44:12,732
Speaker 14: in the class roomless so called normal learning children. I

2149
01:44:12,933 --> 01:44:17,812
Speaker 14: have dyslexia. You know, I've accepted I'm too mensa through

2150
01:44:17,893 --> 01:44:20,053
Speaker 14: my i Q test. So it's not that I am

2151
01:44:20,893 --> 01:44:24,893
Speaker 14: averse to people with there's different learning abilities, it's we

2152
01:44:25,133 --> 01:44:27,772
Speaker 14: need to actually when these kids aren't going to go

2153
01:44:27,853 --> 01:44:29,652
Speaker 14: to university, they're not You know.

2154
01:44:31,812 --> 01:44:33,652
Speaker 2: Mark, how would you just where with the line? Because

2155
01:44:33,853 --> 01:44:36,452
Speaker 2: I can see that the great area coming in here

2156
01:44:36,572 --> 01:44:39,852
Speaker 2: where someone's neurodiversity puts them in a different school, and

2157
01:44:40,013 --> 01:44:43,732
Speaker 2: when it doesn't, because there would be some neurodiverse kids

2158
01:44:44,053 --> 01:44:47,053
Speaker 2: that would benefit from being in the normal system and

2159
01:44:47,572 --> 01:44:50,492
Speaker 2: being put in and then then just the spectrum of

2160
01:44:51,213 --> 01:44:55,293
Speaker 2: massive trouble maker right up to person that is still

2161
01:44:55,973 --> 01:44:59,012
Speaker 2: can can can get something out of a normal education,

2162
01:44:59,253 --> 01:45:00,732
Speaker 2: and they're all lumped in the same school. Can you

2163
01:45:00,772 --> 01:45:01,253
Speaker 2: see what I mean?

2164
01:45:01,293 --> 01:45:04,412
Speaker 14: You might just be moving line, But I can answer

2165
01:45:04,452 --> 01:45:07,052
Speaker 14: that the minute they start putting their head a buff

2166
01:45:07,093 --> 01:45:09,173
Speaker 14: a parpet. But like the you know, the kid there's

2167
01:45:09,173 --> 01:45:13,372
Speaker 14: another kid in a class who told the teacher if

2168
01:45:13,572 --> 01:45:16,652
Speaker 14: and a B and a fats and all the rest

2169
01:45:16,732 --> 01:45:19,652
Speaker 14: of that, and she had to leave for the day. Yeah,

2170
01:45:19,812 --> 01:45:22,213
Speaker 14: you know, so we lose a teacher for the day.

2171
01:45:22,532 --> 01:45:25,772
Speaker 14: You know, teachers, you know, want to go to school,

2172
01:45:26,213 --> 01:45:28,452
Speaker 14: teach kids who want to learn. I went to a

2173
01:45:28,572 --> 01:45:32,013
Speaker 14: school that you know was a high school, one of

2174
01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:33,652
Speaker 14: the biggest class schools in New Zone and I ended

2175
01:45:33,732 --> 01:45:36,053
Speaker 14: up being a depead boy. But the simple factor that

2176
01:45:36,492 --> 01:45:39,173
Speaker 14: the top top streamers had nothing to do with the

2177
01:45:39,253 --> 01:45:41,932
Speaker 14: rest of the more ons like me the middle zone,

2178
01:45:42,053 --> 01:45:44,093
Speaker 14: and then you had the ones that and it's the

2179
01:45:44,173 --> 01:45:46,972
Speaker 14: minute they start putting their heads no, you can't suspend

2180
01:45:47,093 --> 01:45:51,093
Speaker 14: children these times. Like this kid who said this, the

2181
01:45:51,173 --> 01:45:53,812
Speaker 14: teacher went home for a couple of days, he gets

2182
01:45:53,853 --> 01:45:56,293
Speaker 14: put into a class room next to the office. He

2183
01:45:56,372 --> 01:45:59,972
Speaker 14: would go to this special needs school and they would

2184
01:46:00,053 --> 01:46:02,173
Speaker 14: have the people. So the minute he puts his head

2185
01:46:02,173 --> 01:46:04,333
Speaker 14: above the parpet like that and does that, he goes, well,

2186
01:46:04,732 --> 01:46:07,572
Speaker 14: there's obviously something probably at home. If they, you know,

2187
01:46:07,772 --> 01:46:10,412
Speaker 14: succeed that school, they might be able to transfer. We

2188
01:46:10,572 --> 01:46:14,253
Speaker 14: have a real tribalism in schools, you know. We like

2189
01:46:14,372 --> 01:46:17,612
Speaker 14: on first Afteene I was, you know, I was taken

2190
01:46:17,772 --> 01:46:21,012
Speaker 14: from a normal, very good public school to a private

2191
01:46:21,053 --> 01:46:23,012
Speaker 14: school because of how good I was at playing rugby.

2192
01:46:23,372 --> 01:46:26,133
Speaker 14: They would have given been able to give me the

2193
01:46:26,372 --> 01:46:30,133
Speaker 14: stepping stones to become a professional athlete in France or

2194
01:46:30,133 --> 01:46:33,293
Speaker 14: a thale. Not national level, but they would have been

2195
01:46:33,333 --> 01:46:36,293
Speaker 14: able to give me the ability to do that. We

2196
01:46:36,492 --> 01:46:40,612
Speaker 14: are wasting talent by locking them into schools. We have

2197
01:46:40,692 --> 01:46:43,892
Speaker 14: the supertribalism whereas they go, oh well no, our first

2198
01:46:43,933 --> 01:46:47,173
Speaker 14: fifteen is third grade, but you're an A grade player.

2199
01:46:47,452 --> 01:46:49,853
Speaker 14: I think a lot of people indige the same Kentigans

2200
01:46:49,933 --> 01:46:50,532
Speaker 14: or something like that.

2201
01:46:50,893 --> 01:46:53,173
Speaker 3: A lot of people would agree with your making their

2202
01:46:53,253 --> 01:46:55,093
Speaker 3: mark if I can just jump in quickly because we've

2203
01:46:55,093 --> 01:46:56,612
Speaker 3: got to play some messages. A lot of people would

2204
01:46:56,652 --> 01:46:59,052
Speaker 3: agree with your statement. But again, it comes back to funding.

2205
01:46:59,133 --> 01:47:01,572
Speaker 3: And a lot of those schools already exist, whether it's Steiner,

2206
01:47:01,572 --> 01:47:03,652
Speaker 3: whether it's some of those charter schools, to be able

2207
01:47:03,692 --> 01:47:07,692
Speaker 3: to provide a specialized care and attention and focus to

2208
01:47:07,812 --> 01:47:09,293
Speaker 3: kids with e extra needs. And a lot of those

2209
01:47:09,372 --> 01:47:13,253
Speaker 3: kids are incredibly talent and incredibly clever, absolutely, and they've

2210
01:47:13,253 --> 01:47:15,732
Speaker 3: probably got bright futures ahead of them. But again, how

2211
01:47:15,812 --> 01:47:17,973
Speaker 3: do you fund that there's not enough places for those

2212
01:47:18,053 --> 01:47:19,172
Speaker 3: kids in STEINUS schools?

2213
01:47:19,572 --> 01:47:22,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but I mean I do get Mark's point

2214
01:47:22,492 --> 01:47:24,932
Speaker 2: because you know, as I was saying that that teacher

2215
01:47:24,973 --> 01:47:27,053
Speaker 2: they heard on Kerry Wood's show this morning, she was

2216
01:47:27,093 --> 01:47:29,572
Speaker 2: saying that, you know, she reckoned. She had nineteen problem

2217
01:47:29,732 --> 01:47:32,293
Speaker 2: children in her class of thirty and all her time

2218
01:47:32,412 --> 01:47:35,772
Speaker 2: was spent on those kids, and it certainly wasn't helped

2219
01:47:36,093 --> 01:47:38,293
Speaker 2: with the open planned class at rooms because you could

2220
01:47:38,293 --> 01:47:41,892
Speaker 2: have two punishing kids across three classrooms that were taking

2221
01:47:42,013 --> 01:47:44,972
Speaker 2: up all the teachers times. If you know what I mean, Yes, punishing,

2222
01:47:45,013 --> 01:47:48,293
Speaker 2: disrupt punishing kids not being the technical term for it,

2223
01:47:49,053 --> 01:47:51,412
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, but I mean that I guess

2224
01:47:51,492 --> 01:47:54,253
Speaker 2: that's in the end. If you're in the public system,

2225
01:47:54,333 --> 01:47:57,253
Speaker 2: then you were in with everyone and that is the

2226
01:47:58,532 --> 01:48:00,972
Speaker 2: that is the environment you're trying to succeed in, right, yep.

2227
01:48:01,253 --> 01:48:03,532
Speaker 2: So then we're never going to get a system where

2228
01:48:03,612 --> 01:48:05,892
Speaker 2: every child sits up at the front of the class

2229
01:48:06,013 --> 01:48:08,852
Speaker 2: with their legs folded and they're back upright and goes

2230
01:48:09,412 --> 01:48:10,572
Speaker 2: and brings the teacher in apple.

2231
01:48:11,213 --> 01:48:11,412
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2232
01:48:11,452 --> 01:48:14,532
Speaker 3: If only, yeah, if only it is seventeen to four

2233
01:48:14,612 --> 01:48:15,293
Speaker 3: back in a month.

2234
01:48:15,933 --> 01:48:19,293
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2235
01:48:19,652 --> 01:48:23,452
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

2236
01:48:23,492 --> 01:48:24,093
Speaker 1: talks that'd be.

2237
01:48:24,412 --> 01:48:26,892
Speaker 3: It is fourteen to four, having a good discussion about

2238
01:48:26,893 --> 01:48:30,132
Speaker 3: the so called mega strike. Is it going to achieve

2239
01:48:30,692 --> 01:48:32,092
Speaker 3: what you expect it's going to achieve?

2240
01:48:32,133 --> 01:48:32,213
Speaker 30: Oh?

2241
01:48:32,412 --> 01:48:33,253
Speaker 3: Underd eighteen eighty.

2242
01:48:33,572 --> 01:48:38,493
Speaker 2: Take this ableism, bigot off the radio. Kids mustn't be segregators.

2243
01:48:38,532 --> 01:48:41,892
Speaker 2: Teachers just need the resources and skills to assist neurodivergent children.

2244
01:48:43,293 --> 01:48:45,972
Speaker 2: Stop this out of the nineteen eighties, dude from talking.

2245
01:48:46,253 --> 01:48:48,253
Speaker 2: And that's a terrible idea that you wouldn't even listen

2246
01:48:48,293 --> 01:48:51,893
Speaker 2: to someone else's opposing opinion. Come on, please take this

2247
01:48:52,692 --> 01:48:56,133
Speaker 2: off the air. Shut him down. Abolism is an interesting one.

2248
01:48:56,732 --> 01:48:59,213
Speaker 2: I mean, he was dyslexic, that guy that rang in. Yeah,

2249
01:48:59,213 --> 01:49:01,293
Speaker 2: so it's not really what he was saying, wasn't. He

2250
01:49:01,372 --> 01:49:03,293
Speaker 2: wasn't He had a lot of compassion for these people.

2251
01:49:03,412 --> 01:49:05,093
Speaker 2: He was just saying that maybe they could get the

2252
01:49:05,173 --> 01:49:08,133
Speaker 2: help that they need. But as you pointed out, Tyler,

2253
01:49:08,173 --> 01:49:11,013
Speaker 2: that comes with its costs, right, So if you give

2254
01:49:11,093 --> 01:49:14,572
Speaker 2: people the help that they need, it's probably going to

2255
01:49:14,652 --> 01:49:18,412
Speaker 2: be you know, one to five, one to three, whatever,

2256
01:49:18,732 --> 01:49:21,012
Speaker 2: you know, and that involves a huge amount of avestment

2257
01:49:21,053 --> 01:49:21,572
Speaker 2: from the government.

2258
01:49:21,612 --> 01:49:24,293
Speaker 3: Exactly. But that was a well reasoned argument from that

2259
01:49:24,412 --> 01:49:26,532
Speaker 3: previous caller. You know, Yes, but before you.

2260
01:49:26,572 --> 01:49:31,412
Speaker 2: Start throwing aroundisms like ableism, I mean, you must have

2261
01:49:31,492 --> 01:49:35,053
Speaker 2: to admit that if there's one child that's taking up

2262
01:49:35,093 --> 01:49:37,932
Speaker 2: all the teachers time. Then the other twenty nine kids

2263
01:49:37,973 --> 01:49:40,612
Speaker 2: in the class are victims of that exactly a certain extent.

2264
01:49:41,973 --> 01:49:44,092
Speaker 3: Jess, you're a teacher, how are you this afternoon?

2265
01:49:45,652 --> 01:49:48,133
Speaker 30: God, I've got grand babies on board. So I didn't

2266
01:49:48,133 --> 01:49:52,692
Speaker 30: attend the strike. Well, I've talked over twenty years. A

2267
01:49:52,772 --> 01:49:56,092
Speaker 30: couple of things to preface this thinking. Before I started teaching,

2268
01:49:56,133 --> 01:49:59,333
Speaker 30: my husband had quite a low regard for teachers, and

2269
01:49:59,572 --> 01:50:02,053
Speaker 30: from the time that I started teaching, he saw how

2270
01:50:02,173 --> 01:50:06,253
Speaker 30: hard we worked. Some of my concerns firusly do I

2271
01:50:06,333 --> 01:50:09,852
Speaker 30: think the strike will work. I'm not really a unionist.

2272
01:50:10,013 --> 01:50:12,213
Speaker 30: I'm in the union for a variety of different reasons.

2273
01:50:12,933 --> 01:50:15,852
Speaker 30: But one of the things that people often don't hear

2274
01:50:16,013 --> 01:50:18,412
Speaker 30: is that when I started teaching, the abagation for a

2275
01:50:18,532 --> 01:50:22,092
Speaker 30: teacher was forty four. Last time I heard any stats,

2276
01:50:22,572 --> 01:50:26,812
Speaker 30: it's fifty eight now people talk about and I could

2277
01:50:26,853 --> 01:50:29,772
Speaker 30: be and these are just information given to me. I've

2278
01:50:29,772 --> 01:50:33,093
Speaker 30: never fact checked them. But teachers are aging out now.

2279
01:50:33,213 --> 01:50:36,372
Speaker 30: People suggest that we get to twelve weeks holiday and

2280
01:50:37,293 --> 01:50:40,893
Speaker 30: it's and don't get me wrong, teaching as fantastic.

2281
01:50:41,053 --> 01:50:41,852
Speaker 14: I still love it.

2282
01:50:41,973 --> 01:50:43,612
Speaker 30: I'm retiring at the end of the year and I'll

2283
01:50:43,652 --> 01:50:47,293
Speaker 30: come back part time for different reasons. But I love

2284
01:50:47,372 --> 01:50:50,013
Speaker 30: being in a classroom. I love the engagement, but it

2285
01:50:50,253 --> 01:50:50,972
Speaker 30: is hard.

2286
01:50:50,812 --> 01:50:51,612
Speaker 9: At these days.

2287
01:50:51,652 --> 01:50:55,452
Speaker 30: I've noticed the lack of engagement, increase in behavior, the

2288
01:50:55,572 --> 01:50:59,732
Speaker 30: lack of attention span, lack of parental support, some of

2289
01:50:59,772 --> 01:51:01,933
Speaker 30: the things that parents don't see. So you know, we

2290
01:51:02,053 --> 01:51:05,012
Speaker 30: get all of these twelve weeks holidays. They don't see

2291
01:51:05,093 --> 01:51:08,692
Speaker 30: me awake at two o'clock in the morning strategizing next

2292
01:51:08,772 --> 01:51:11,812
Speaker 30: to move. I'm thinking about what's happened in the class

2293
01:51:12,293 --> 01:51:16,213
Speaker 30: I'm strategizing how I can look at what's happening with

2294
01:51:16,372 --> 01:51:20,652
Speaker 30: that child and try to implement something for them to

2295
01:51:20,772 --> 01:51:24,213
Speaker 30: be more successful. We do that constantly with every child

2296
01:51:24,293 --> 01:51:27,412
Speaker 30: in the classroom. You're up the front teaching, You're standing around,

2297
01:51:27,452 --> 01:51:32,172
Speaker 30: You're noticing behavior, You're noticing people aren't engaged. You're scooting

2298
01:51:32,253 --> 01:51:36,932
Speaker 30: around trying to problem solve, let alone considering. Yes, I've

2299
01:51:36,973 --> 01:51:39,293
Speaker 30: got a range of behaviors. I've got learners with exit

2300
01:51:39,412 --> 01:51:42,093
Speaker 30: cards so they can remove themselves to ten minutes if

2301
01:51:42,133 --> 01:51:46,532
Speaker 30: they feel a better pressure ADHD. I've got dyslexics, I've

2302
01:51:46,612 --> 01:51:49,852
Speaker 30: got I haven't this year, but I've had feedal alcohol.

2303
01:51:50,652 --> 01:51:53,933
Speaker 30: There's all sorts of people in our classroom, and we

2304
01:51:54,093 --> 01:51:58,812
Speaker 30: try to deal with them individually. It takes time and efforts.

2305
01:51:58,893 --> 01:52:01,612
Speaker 30: So yes, we get a lot of holidays. The only

2306
01:52:01,732 --> 01:52:04,172
Speaker 30: real holiday I get as a teacher is in December

2307
01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:08,053
Speaker 30: because I have no one once my book closes for

2308
01:52:08,173 --> 01:52:10,372
Speaker 30: that I've got an older think about until I see

2309
01:52:10,412 --> 01:52:11,412
Speaker 30: my role for the next year.

2310
01:52:11,652 --> 01:52:13,253
Speaker 2: If there was one thing to get help you, so

2311
01:52:13,532 --> 01:52:16,892
Speaker 2: we've you know, talked about that, what the what teachers

2312
01:52:16,893 --> 01:52:19,612
Speaker 2: are asking for? What would be the single thing that

2313
01:52:19,692 --> 01:52:23,053
Speaker 2: you think is the most important thing to help you?

2314
01:52:23,293 --> 01:52:23,412
Speaker 7: Is it?

2315
01:52:23,532 --> 01:52:27,093
Speaker 2: Teachers aids, I would love to see your teacher raide.

2316
01:52:27,133 --> 01:52:29,532
Speaker 30: So someone suggests that every class is a teacher ade.

2317
01:52:30,772 --> 01:52:34,532
Speaker 30: Teacher ades are generally funded by your skill. Very few

2318
01:52:35,133 --> 01:52:38,812
Speaker 30: learners kids get teacherrades that are funded, and if they are,

2319
01:52:39,253 --> 01:52:41,692
Speaker 30: then there's shed within the classrooms. A teacher rade in

2320
01:52:41,772 --> 01:52:44,412
Speaker 30: every classroom is absolutely you see them walking in, then

2321
01:52:44,452 --> 01:52:47,732
Speaker 30: you go hellelujah, because then you've got two teachers to

2322
01:52:47,853 --> 01:52:53,013
Speaker 30: support the learning in the class. Pastoral need, you know,

2323
01:52:53,253 --> 01:52:57,532
Speaker 30: more support with pastoral needs. You know, the money, I

2324
01:52:58,013 --> 01:52:58,333
Speaker 30: don't know.

2325
01:52:58,692 --> 01:52:59,932
Speaker 28: Well, everyone wants more.

2326
01:52:59,893 --> 01:53:04,372
Speaker 30: Money, but teaching is not attractive. We lose forty new

2327
01:53:04,412 --> 01:53:08,093
Speaker 30: graduates in the first five years. So the twelve weeks

2328
01:53:08,133 --> 01:53:13,012
Speaker 30: holdday is not enough to keep new graduates long term.

2329
01:53:13,532 --> 01:53:14,333
Speaker 4: So why is that?

2330
01:53:16,732 --> 01:53:18,452
Speaker 30: Do we work nine to three? And I would work

2331
01:53:18,532 --> 01:53:21,732
Speaker 30: past that. But it's a great gig, you know, there's

2332
01:53:21,812 --> 01:53:27,372
Speaker 30: so many bonuses, pluses engaging with kids from all across

2333
01:53:27,492 --> 01:53:31,333
Speaker 30: the school saying that develop My work primary train, but

2334
01:53:31,412 --> 01:53:34,333
Speaker 30: I work in a secondary school, so I get the

2335
01:53:34,933 --> 01:53:38,052
Speaker 30: you know, fortunate to see them grow from little people

2336
01:53:38,532 --> 01:53:41,412
Speaker 30: to flourishing adults. And that's a lovely journey to be

2337
01:53:41,532 --> 01:53:44,412
Speaker 30: part of as well. But it's hard.

2338
01:53:46,933 --> 01:53:48,253
Speaker 21: But I wouldn't not do it.

2339
01:53:49,652 --> 01:53:52,612
Speaker 30: But I think that if you want a teacher who's

2340
01:53:52,612 --> 01:53:54,173
Speaker 30: going to be in the classroom in ten years, I'm

2341
01:53:54,213 --> 01:53:56,412
Speaker 30: not going to even be relieving, and they might be

2342
01:53:56,492 --> 01:53:58,772
Speaker 30: relieving in two years if I don't like it. But

2343
01:54:00,372 --> 01:54:02,333
Speaker 30: who's you know, you don't want to pay them, you

2344
01:54:02,412 --> 01:54:06,612
Speaker 30: don't want to secure graduates within our occupation for longer.

2345
01:54:07,812 --> 01:54:11,572
Speaker 30: So who are you going to have in the classrooms? Yeah,

2346
01:54:11,732 --> 01:54:15,053
Speaker 30: you know, So there's all those sorts of things to consider. Yes,

2347
01:54:16,053 --> 01:54:20,412
Speaker 30: will money make a difference, generally a little bit, But

2348
01:54:20,532 --> 01:54:23,173
Speaker 30: I don't think that's the real reason for everyone to

2349
01:54:23,293 --> 01:54:25,893
Speaker 30: be striking, but it is conditioned.

2350
01:54:26,133 --> 01:54:28,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez, thank you very much, very thoughtful.

2351
01:54:28,333 --> 01:54:30,133
Speaker 2: Will you sound like a great New Zealander and a

2352
01:54:30,213 --> 01:54:32,613
Speaker 2: fantastic teacher, Jess. It was great to hear your opinion.

2353
01:54:32,733 --> 01:54:34,973
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and please keep on teaching for as long as

2354
01:54:35,053 --> 01:54:37,493
Speaker 3: you can. We need you. Right, We're going to play

2355
01:54:37,533 --> 01:54:40,133
Speaker 3: some messages, but back very shortly. It is eight minutes

2356
01:54:40,173 --> 01:54:40,453
Speaker 3: to four.

2357
01:54:41,453 --> 01:54:44,812
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2358
01:54:45,173 --> 01:54:46,092
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2359
01:54:46,373 --> 01:54:49,573
Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd be.

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Speaker 3: Kerry, good afternoon. You're a teacher, ade, what's the one

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Speaker 3: thing you need? We've got about sixty seconds.

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Speaker 18: Okay, most teacher ades won't People won't apply because the

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Speaker 18: job security. They're not on permanent contracts, very part time,

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Speaker 18: not paid in the school holidays, and also low pay.

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Speaker 18: They start on a lower rate and the job security

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Speaker 18: is not their cuff. Erica stands, we'd got rid of

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Speaker 18: the resource teachers of literacy.

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Speaker 7: They are the.

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Speaker 18: People who actually caught the kids in tier three, which

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Speaker 18: is most needed. She disestablished their role and so there's

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Speaker 18: no one catching the kids at the bottom of the cliff.

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Speaker 19: Right.

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Speaker 3: That is a good list. Of demands. Kerry, thank you

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Speaker 3: very much and nicely squeezed into sixty seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well done, there you go. So thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for everyone for listening. It's been an intense couple

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Speaker 2: of hours of chat.

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Speaker 15: Well.

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Speaker 2: So, the teachers and health workers say pay has fallen

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Speaker 2: behind and staffing shortage threaten safety. They want fair wages

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Speaker 2: and investment in public services. The government argues that we've

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Speaker 2: got no cash. Yeah, and everyone is doing it tough

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Speaker 2: at the moment, and strikes strikes arm the public m

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Speaker 2: so to strike work. Who knows, But it's been an

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Speaker 2: intense discussion. That's why Tyler and I are here. So

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for all your text and calls

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Speaker 2: on our eight hundred eighty ten eighty The Mighty Sir

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Speaker 2: pol haunts Paul Holmes broadcaster over the year heatherdoperc islan

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Speaker 2: or something next. But Tyler, why am I playing the.

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Speaker 3: Song so the doors I was as writers of the storm?

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Speaker 3: Great choice is that because we had old Haybag. He

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Speaker 3: was a knight of the road.

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Speaker 2: What a great man. Haybag was banging it down the

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Speaker 2: road forty years driving between driving towards Upper Hut and

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Speaker 2: back the other way.

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Speaker 3: What are legends?

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Speaker 2: He's hauled up in Foxton. He's a writer on the storm.

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Speaker 2: The best of us, all right until tomorrow afternoon. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for tuning in. Give them a taste

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Speaker 2: a kiwi from us, all right.

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Speaker 3: Love you.

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