1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from Newstalk. 3 00:00:11,507 --> 00:00:15,787 Speaker 2: ZB Monday afternoons. Mean a few things, but they mean 4 00:00:15,907 --> 00:00:21,107 Speaker 2: James mconey. Did the Port sing your Nando Pineker Fernando 5 00:00:21,347 --> 00:00:24,267 Speaker 2: Abba crossover yesterday? 6 00:00:25,147 --> 00:00:27,187 Speaker 3: No, I don't know if they did. I'm not sure 7 00:00:27,267 --> 00:00:30,347 Speaker 3: because Louis Toomey wasn't playing the nor my to me songs. 8 00:00:31,627 --> 00:00:34,827 Speaker 3: You know, nothing really matters to me. They didn't get 9 00:00:34,867 --> 00:00:37,107 Speaker 3: played either, so I don't know if any of the 10 00:00:37,187 --> 00:00:41,507 Speaker 3: songs and Aga do do do push Pineakers shake a tree? 11 00:00:41,947 --> 00:00:44,467 Speaker 3: That didn't make it either. So I mean, look, I 12 00:00:44,547 --> 00:00:47,547 Speaker 3: thought the Port atmosphere looked incredible. But what a day 13 00:00:47,707 --> 00:00:50,387 Speaker 3: for the club and for New Zealand football. 14 00:00:50,787 --> 00:00:53,507 Speaker 2: James so good, It was so good, and you know, 15 00:00:53,587 --> 00:00:56,427 Speaker 2: in so many ways. And look, you have to you 16 00:00:56,547 --> 00:00:58,467 Speaker 2: have to hand it to Walkland FC. They gave it 17 00:00:58,507 --> 00:01:00,627 Speaker 2: a lot of marketing grunt. You know, they really got 18 00:01:00,627 --> 00:01:03,147 Speaker 2: out there and tried to publicize this football club and 19 00:01:03,187 --> 00:01:05,827 Speaker 2: the first game and people turned up, man, and it 20 00:01:05,907 --> 00:01:08,427 Speaker 2: was so good there yesterday. And that's a great venue, 21 00:01:08,467 --> 00:01:11,787 Speaker 2: to a rectangular ground in which to watch a game 22 00:01:11,827 --> 00:01:12,907 Speaker 2: of football. 23 00:01:13,107 --> 00:01:15,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's that full, and I mean, this is 24 00:01:15,267 --> 00:01:19,547 Speaker 3: a thing. It was perfect weather, great result. I hear 25 00:01:19,547 --> 00:01:22,707 Speaker 3: it was perfect commentary as well, Pioneer. I mean, if 26 00:01:22,747 --> 00:01:25,387 Speaker 3: you have all those stars aligned, then you'll get and 27 00:01:25,667 --> 00:01:28,507 Speaker 3: you'll get the return crowd like there was probably I 28 00:01:28,547 --> 00:01:30,787 Speaker 3: don't know what the crowd was, but they'll definitely get 29 00:01:30,907 --> 00:01:33,747 Speaker 3: ten to twelve zero of them coming back for game two, 30 00:01:33,787 --> 00:01:34,347 Speaker 3: won't they? 31 00:01:34,507 --> 00:01:37,067 Speaker 2: Yeah, they will. It was twenty four twenty four there yesterday, 32 00:01:37,187 --> 00:01:39,267 Speaker 2: So you're right, even if only half of them come 33 00:01:39,307 --> 00:01:42,347 Speaker 2: back for game two, if people turn up to watch 34 00:01:42,467 --> 00:01:45,267 Speaker 2: something because it was new and different and it's the 35 00:01:45,267 --> 00:01:47,347 Speaker 2: first game of the season, all that, you're right, the 36 00:01:47,547 --> 00:01:51,027 Speaker 2: experience will mean that they'll I've had so many messages 37 00:01:51,027 --> 00:01:53,267 Speaker 2: from people saying they're taking their kids, and their kids 38 00:01:53,347 --> 00:01:55,187 Speaker 2: go on, when's the next when's the next game? And 39 00:01:55,347 --> 00:01:56,147 Speaker 2: buy me a shirt? 40 00:01:56,987 --> 00:01:59,947 Speaker 3: You know. And this is the thing is the recruitment. 41 00:01:59,987 --> 00:02:02,787 Speaker 3: I've got to give them pat on the back really 42 00:02:02,907 --> 00:02:06,227 Speaker 3: for that. They need their flowers for selecting players who 43 00:02:06,467 --> 00:02:08,907 Speaker 3: people may not have heard of, but they are actually 44 00:02:09,027 --> 00:02:12,747 Speaker 3: legit top level players. So Orki Saka is a genuine 45 00:02:12,747 --> 00:02:17,547 Speaker 3: international star, three World Cups for Japan, so you know 46 00:02:17,587 --> 00:02:21,467 Speaker 3: he's their captain. But also guys like Louis Vstrata, a 47 00:02:21,547 --> 00:02:24,667 Speaker 3: twenty five year old defensive midfielder. I mean, let's just 48 00:02:24,747 --> 00:02:28,187 Speaker 3: be honest, Piney number six. That position is the most 49 00:02:28,347 --> 00:02:31,787 Speaker 3: important position in your team. Generally everyone goes on about 50 00:02:31,827 --> 00:02:34,067 Speaker 3: the creative players, but if you en't got one of 51 00:02:34,067 --> 00:02:38,067 Speaker 3: those guys running the tutter and every top coach knows it, 52 00:02:38,307 --> 00:02:39,667 Speaker 3: then your team doesn't function. 53 00:02:40,187 --> 00:02:42,667 Speaker 2: He was man of the match yesterday, a terrific player. 54 00:02:43,147 --> 00:02:46,627 Speaker 2: And look it's a leg importance. We've never heard of them, right, 55 00:02:46,747 --> 00:02:49,627 Speaker 2: I'd never heard of Louis Vistrata, but heard him now. 56 00:02:49,987 --> 00:02:51,267 Speaker 2: He looked good they yesterday. But it was good to 57 00:02:51,267 --> 00:02:54,027 Speaker 2: see the local boys too. Logan Rogerson scoring a goal. 58 00:02:55,027 --> 00:02:58,947 Speaker 2: You know, Liam Gillian a scholarship player. You know, he 59 00:02:59,107 --> 00:03:01,427 Speaker 2: sort of earned the stripes at Auckland City now at 60 00:03:01,427 --> 00:03:03,067 Speaker 2: Auckland f C. It was just it was just a 61 00:03:03,107 --> 00:03:05,467 Speaker 2: great day all round. Now, black Caps and White Ferns, 62 00:03:06,187 --> 00:03:08,507 Speaker 2: they can they both win over the next sort of 63 00:03:08,827 --> 00:03:10,307 Speaker 2: I don't know, eighteen hours or so. 64 00:03:11,747 --> 00:03:14,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think I think they can. And the 65 00:03:14,387 --> 00:03:17,627 Speaker 3: White Fans is a great story, really sort of a 66 00:03:17,627 --> 00:03:20,427 Speaker 3: Cinderella story because they were they were the team that 67 00:03:20,547 --> 00:03:23,027 Speaker 3: was always sort of coughing and sputtering, but looked like 68 00:03:23,107 --> 00:03:25,387 Speaker 3: they had this core of talent and what was going 69 00:03:25,467 --> 00:03:27,307 Speaker 3: to you know, when were they all going to fire? 70 00:03:27,387 --> 00:03:31,907 Speaker 3: But I just admire the way they've they've kept you know, 71 00:03:32,187 --> 00:03:36,387 Speaker 3: improving and showing up in pressure moments. But you know, 72 00:03:37,147 --> 00:03:40,667 Speaker 3: someone like Amelia kur just showing how world class she 73 00:03:40,987 --> 00:03:43,827 Speaker 3: is with bad Am ball, and I mean that she's 74 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:46,827 Speaker 3: she's really sort of stood up to the point where 75 00:03:48,307 --> 00:03:49,987 Speaker 3: we've got a superstar. 76 00:03:49,587 --> 00:03:53,027 Speaker 2: There, oh, without question, without question. In the Black Caps 77 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:55,947 Speaker 2: were only need one hundred and seven. The rain stays away, 78 00:03:56,067 --> 00:03:58,547 Speaker 2: and you know, we could win a Test an India 79 00:03:58,547 --> 00:04:00,107 Speaker 2: for the first time since nineteen ninety eight. 80 00:04:00,227 --> 00:04:04,347 Speaker 3: James, I know, and look, I need to sorry for 81 00:04:04,427 --> 00:04:08,587 Speaker 3: quoting Alanas Morissette, but thank thank you India for actually 82 00:04:08,627 --> 00:04:13,187 Speaker 3: putting us on a pitch that takes seaman swing bowling 83 00:04:13,267 --> 00:04:16,747 Speaker 3: for starters, So thank you for that, but also thank 84 00:04:16,787 --> 00:04:20,907 Speaker 3: you India for playing us, giving us the respect of 85 00:04:20,947 --> 00:04:23,947 Speaker 3: putting out what is their top eleven, the first eleven 86 00:04:24,427 --> 00:04:27,027 Speaker 3: really just seeing what South Africa sent over to New 87 00:04:27,107 --> 00:04:30,067 Speaker 3: Zealand last time, I just thought was so poor. But 88 00:04:30,227 --> 00:04:33,547 Speaker 3: in the air giving us showing us, the respect colds, 89 00:04:33,987 --> 00:04:38,107 Speaker 3: you know, all those big stars parts and it's all 90 00:04:38,187 --> 00:04:42,027 Speaker 3: though all there. So to beat them on their home 91 00:04:42,067 --> 00:04:44,467 Speaker 3: turf against their best players will be will be a 92 00:04:44,467 --> 00:04:45,107 Speaker 3: massive result. 93 00:04:45,947 --> 00:04:48,667 Speaker 2: Now can I ask you about the mouse just of 94 00:04:48,707 --> 00:04:51,067 Speaker 2: a man? He's really just a kid wearing the fourteen 95 00:04:51,187 --> 00:04:55,027 Speaker 2: jersey for White Cuttle in their semi final against Wellington 96 00:04:55,867 --> 00:04:58,507 Speaker 2: Olie Mathis. I believe he's out of Hamilton Boys High. 97 00:04:58,827 --> 00:05:00,987 Speaker 2: I thought he was a loose forward. Did you see 98 00:05:00,987 --> 00:05:03,147 Speaker 2: that try he scored? Yeah? 99 00:05:03,147 --> 00:05:05,707 Speaker 3: I know he's a freak of nature. Oli Mathis. If 100 00:05:06,067 --> 00:05:07,707 Speaker 3: you go, if you want to go and have fun, 101 00:05:07,947 --> 00:05:09,667 Speaker 3: go on YouTube and have a look at the New 102 00:05:09,787 --> 00:05:12,747 Speaker 3: Zealand Secretary Schools game from either last year or the 103 00:05:12,827 --> 00:05:16,307 Speaker 3: year before. And Oli Mathis just puts on a clinic 104 00:05:16,387 --> 00:05:19,907 Speaker 3: of tries and assists and yeah it was a sixty 105 00:05:19,947 --> 00:05:22,187 Speaker 3: meter kick and chase where he kicked the ball and 106 00:05:22,227 --> 00:05:24,507 Speaker 3: then hacked in her head as well, sort of volleyed 107 00:05:24,547 --> 00:05:27,987 Speaker 3: her head and then won the chase. He is an 108 00:05:28,027 --> 00:05:31,947 Speaker 3: open side flanker. He's actually from why He so he's 109 00:05:31,947 --> 00:05:34,787 Speaker 3: a why He kid. And Wayne Smith, when he spotted 110 00:05:34,827 --> 00:05:37,707 Speaker 3: him as a kid, said hey, I've been helping out 111 00:05:37,707 --> 00:05:40,707 Speaker 3: at why he rugby club and the best best player 112 00:05:40,707 --> 00:05:43,267 Speaker 3: at the club is a fourteen year old schoolboy and 113 00:05:43,267 --> 00:05:47,747 Speaker 3: that was Oli Mathith. So now he's so even the 114 00:05:47,787 --> 00:05:51,787 Speaker 3: professor's going, who the hell is this? And he's got 115 00:05:51,827 --> 00:05:53,427 Speaker 3: to the point, now where what do you do with 116 00:05:53,587 --> 00:05:56,347 Speaker 3: I actually thought that Razors should take a punt on 117 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:59,027 Speaker 3: him and take him over there, because it's he's an 118 00:05:59,027 --> 00:06:01,667 Speaker 3: outrageous talent, but they don't know is he going to 119 00:06:01,947 --> 00:06:05,547 Speaker 3: make like Eric Rush and Jonahlomou start in the forwards 120 00:06:05,587 --> 00:06:07,987 Speaker 3: and end up in the I think I've heard from 121 00:06:08,387 --> 00:06:10,707 Speaker 3: White Cuttle and Chiefs people that he should probably play 122 00:06:10,747 --> 00:06:14,827 Speaker 3: in the backs and second five or when look to 123 00:06:14,867 --> 00:06:19,307 Speaker 3: be two best options there. But look, when you've got 124 00:06:19,307 --> 00:06:22,267 Speaker 3: someone like that, with those sorts of wheels, you know, 125 00:06:22,267 --> 00:06:24,587 Speaker 3: it doesn't always translate. You need to actually love the 126 00:06:24,707 --> 00:06:26,707 Speaker 3: dark arts and you need to want to put your 127 00:06:26,747 --> 00:06:31,307 Speaker 3: head in some horrible places. And that's why you know 128 00:06:31,427 --> 00:06:34,387 Speaker 3: Sam Caine and Richard McCall were great sevens and even 129 00:06:34,467 --> 00:06:37,587 Speaker 3: Josh Cromfeld. I don't know if Oli has that necessarily 130 00:06:37,627 --> 00:06:41,267 Speaker 3: in his DNA, So let him roam free, Let. 131 00:06:41,107 --> 00:06:44,027 Speaker 2: Him roam free. Indeed, Hoskins Satutu what do you predict 132 00:06:44,107 --> 00:06:45,867 Speaker 2: for Hoskins Satutu. 133 00:06:47,627 --> 00:06:50,787 Speaker 3: I think Hoskin Statutu will leave. So I think that 134 00:06:50,827 --> 00:06:53,987 Speaker 3: he he does have any injury and that's and that's 135 00:06:54,307 --> 00:06:56,227 Speaker 3: ruled him out of I think Razor was going to 136 00:06:56,267 --> 00:06:59,347 Speaker 3: call him back in for the Japan Test, but look, 137 00:06:59,387 --> 00:07:04,507 Speaker 3: he probably feels aggrieved over the over the this tenure 138 00:07:04,587 --> 00:07:08,107 Speaker 3: of Raises, but also the previous coaches as well, and 139 00:07:08,147 --> 00:07:10,907 Speaker 3: so I just think he you know, he can't buy 140 00:07:10,907 --> 00:07:13,787 Speaker 3: a trick, so he's looking. He's got the options of 141 00:07:13,827 --> 00:07:17,787 Speaker 3: Fiji or England. He qualifies this time next year. I 142 00:07:17,827 --> 00:07:20,227 Speaker 3: think it's been a three years standout since his last 143 00:07:20,467 --> 00:07:25,667 Speaker 3: All Blacks Test. I think the selectors have got it wrong. 144 00:07:25,827 --> 00:07:27,707 Speaker 3: I reckon that he should have been in the All 145 00:07:27,747 --> 00:07:30,867 Speaker 3: Black squad. He was the best player in Super rugby. 146 00:07:30,947 --> 00:07:33,347 Speaker 3: You have to find a way to get the best 147 00:07:33,387 --> 00:07:36,547 Speaker 3: out of him or to fit your system. But the 148 00:07:36,707 --> 00:07:41,947 Speaker 3: emergence of Wallace atiti is probably feels like the writing's 149 00:07:41,987 --> 00:07:44,987 Speaker 3: on the wall. Then even if he came back, he'd 150 00:07:45,027 --> 00:07:49,187 Speaker 3: still be behind the outrageous talent as well. So maybe 151 00:07:49,187 --> 00:07:50,507 Speaker 3: it's the best for him to go, and I think 152 00:07:50,507 --> 00:07:50,827 Speaker 3: he will. 153 00:07:52,267 --> 00:07:54,587 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if I remember this correctly. But 154 00:07:54,747 --> 00:07:57,067 Speaker 2: at the back end of Super Rugby, I'm pretty sure 155 00:07:57,707 --> 00:08:01,027 Speaker 2: if you asked most rugby fans they would have about 156 00:08:01,027 --> 00:08:04,707 Speaker 2: who if it was a choice between Sotutu and Satiti, 157 00:08:05,187 --> 00:08:07,627 Speaker 2: most would have gone hoss Skin Statuto, wouldn't they? 158 00:08:08,587 --> 00:08:11,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean Wallaston have that absolute 159 00:08:11,067 --> 00:08:14,347 Speaker 3: barnstorm of semi final. But then yes, the great thing 160 00:08:14,387 --> 00:08:19,667 Speaker 3: with Statutu is that he can play all sorts. You know, 161 00:08:20,627 --> 00:08:23,507 Speaker 3: the blues are their best work and wet, groamy conditions 162 00:08:23,507 --> 00:08:26,227 Speaker 3: and he played that tight game really well, which you 163 00:08:26,307 --> 00:08:30,227 Speaker 3: need in test matches right Autumn internationals, you know, July 164 00:08:30,347 --> 00:08:32,867 Speaker 3: and New zealand all that sort of stuff. You need 165 00:08:32,947 --> 00:08:34,747 Speaker 3: to be able to play in those conditions. And I 166 00:08:34,787 --> 00:08:38,387 Speaker 3: think Hoskins is a man for all seasons and that 167 00:08:38,667 --> 00:08:40,507 Speaker 3: and the one thing about it is, and I think 168 00:08:40,547 --> 00:08:42,307 Speaker 3: I've said this on your show a lot Piney you'll 169 00:08:42,547 --> 00:08:45,667 Speaker 3: you'll know I'm a Hoskin Statutu fan, is that are 170 00:08:45,667 --> 00:08:48,627 Speaker 3: we letting out possibly the most talented rugby player in 171 00:08:48,667 --> 00:08:51,867 Speaker 3: the world just slip from our grasp and not find 172 00:08:52,547 --> 00:08:55,467 Speaker 3: a space in the team. I know that all those 173 00:08:55,507 --> 00:08:58,947 Speaker 3: Northern Hemisphere or even South African teams will be absolutely 174 00:08:59,027 --> 00:09:01,787 Speaker 3: celebrating that we can't find a place for Hoskins Statuto 175 00:09:01,867 --> 00:09:04,227 Speaker 3: because he would be their worst nightmare to face. 176 00:09:05,347 --> 00:09:07,987 Speaker 2: James, always good to chat mate, Thanks for taking our 177 00:09:08,027 --> 00:09:10,707 Speaker 2: callers always. Let's tell again next Sunday, shall we? 178 00:09:11,547 --> 00:09:15,027 Speaker 3: Yes? Indeed? And yeah the America's Cup, Oh yes, yes 179 00:09:15,147 --> 00:09:18,507 Speaker 3: they you dine out on that, mate. It's you know, 180 00:09:19,427 --> 00:09:22,427 Speaker 3: he's an all time great now, Peter Burling up there 181 00:09:22,427 --> 00:09:24,347 Speaker 3: with Dennis Connor and all the you know, all the 182 00:09:24,427 --> 00:09:27,867 Speaker 3: luminaries of that. So I still miss the old school 183 00:09:27,907 --> 00:09:29,747 Speaker 3: of laughing up and all that sort of stuff, and 184 00:09:30,107 --> 00:09:32,867 Speaker 3: you know, spinnakers and wine glasses and all that sort 185 00:09:32,867 --> 00:09:35,267 Speaker 3: of thing. But I'm sure they'll be enjoying the wine 186 00:09:35,267 --> 00:09:36,147 Speaker 3: glasses over there. 187 00:09:36,467 --> 00:09:39,747 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're right. Thank you, James. James mcconey around 188 00:09:39,747 --> 00:09:41,667 Speaker 2: this time every Sunday here on Weekend Sport. 189 00:09:42,227 --> 00:09:45,427 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen live 190 00:09:45,507 --> 00:09:48,827 Speaker 1: to News Talk z B weekends from midday, or follow 191 00:09:48,827 --> 00:09:50,467 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.