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Speaker 1: A, questions, answers, facts analysis, The Drive show you trust for.

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Speaker 2: The full picture.

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Speaker 1: Heather duplicity elan Drive with one New Zealand, let's get

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Speaker 1: connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, The government's

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Speaker 3: announced that's introducing a new offense for coward punchers. We'll

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Speaker 3: have a chat for Justice Minister after five. Transpower is

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Speaker 3: warning that our gas is declining so fast we need

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Speaker 3: to urgently build more electricity for next generation for next winter.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a chat to them again after five. And

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Speaker 3: apparently forty one percent of us text. When we're halfway

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Speaker 3: through a face to face conversation, we'll find out if

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Speaker 3: that's rude or not. Heather rude anyway, anyone out there

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Speaker 3: right hands up who doesn't agree with the Justice Minister's

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Speaker 3: plan to introduce harsher punishments for people who assault first

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Speaker 3: first responders. I feel like this is a complete no brainer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are some out there who would argue

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Speaker 3: that no assault is acceptable of all. In that if

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Speaker 3: you create two tiers of punishment where you've got the

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Speaker 3: police officers on one level and then the normal humans

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Speaker 3: on another, what you're saying is that some assaults are

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Speaker 3: more acceptable than others, and that's a fair argument to make.

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Speaker 3: But I think reality has a role to play here,

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Speaker 3: and the reality is different, isn't it. The reality is

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Speaker 3: you and I. Regular citizens can just walk away if

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Speaker 3: we see something happening. Oh there's somebody who needs a

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Speaker 3: bit of help, but we can see it's not safe.

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Speaker 3: We can just keep ongoing. First responders can't. For police

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Speaker 3: and ambo workers in the fire surface, it is their

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Speaker 3: job to go into those situations that are often quite

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Speaker 3: risky because people are upset, or people have been substance

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Speaker 3: abusing or whatever, and having a different level of offense

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Speaker 3: for them is an acknowledgment. I think that they face

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Speaker 3: greater risk, so they should have greater protection. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 3: just attaching a higher punishment to it doesn't mean it's

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Speaker 3: necessarily going to deter someone from doing something, especially if

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Speaker 3: they're off the face and they're making bad decisions. But

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Speaker 3: I I would be surprised if it doesn't have an

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Speaker 3: effect over time, as the punishments start coming in, I

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Speaker 3: suspect it will have an impact. The impact of making

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Speaker 3: first defenders a no go. I find it hard to

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Speaker 3: believe that anybody would assault an ambulance worker, because I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, is there anybody who was there to help

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Speaker 3: you more than an ambulance worker. They're not there to

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Speaker 3: arrest you, They're just there to help you. But it happens.

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Speaker 3: At the last count, there were twelve assaults on ambulance

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Speaker 3: workers every single week. And that was before COVID, so probably,

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Speaker 3: like everything since then, I imagine the numbers would have

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Speaker 3: gone up. But here's the question I have about this, right,

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Speaker 3: this is not a new idea. From what I can see,

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Speaker 3: this idea was first pitched by New Zealand first seven

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Speaker 3: years ago. It got to a second reading, never went

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Speaker 3: any further, same as with the cowards Punch which has

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Speaker 3: just been announced today, first pitch seven years ago. On

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Speaker 3: the face of it, I would say, a good idea.

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Speaker 3: So why does it take so long for good ideas

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Speaker 3: to become law together?

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Speaker 4: Do?

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Speaker 2: For sea Allen?

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number. Standard text

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Speaker 3: fees apply now tomorrow you're a landline, got this one

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Speaker 3: in your diary having a landlord or other landlord? Tomorrow's

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Speaker 3: the deadline to have your rental up to healthy home standards.

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Speaker 3: Landlords have had six years to comply, yet figures from

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Speaker 3: Now Andrew Eagles is the CEO of the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Green Building Council and is with us. Now, Hey, Andrew.

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Speaker 5: Cure, great to speak, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe those numbers?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I think, I mean there are people that are failing

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Speaker 5: those standards. Different groups have different numbers, but I think

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Speaker 5: it's right to say that not every home is part.

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Speaker 3: Of What do you reckon? What is the number of

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Speaker 5: Look, I would say I would say I would like

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Speaker 5: to think it's less than thirty percent. To be honest,

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Speaker 5: there's been six years, been awful lot of assessments and work,

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Speaker 5: because lots of people are booked up, right, you know,

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Speaker 5: that's even harder thing. And I've speaking to an insulation

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Speaker 5: They should have been thinking of this three years ago.

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Speaker 3: Hey, but even at thirty percent, that's one in three

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Speaker 5: That's right, yep, And some will be more significant than others.

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Speaker 5: So that's a real That means a family that's got

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Speaker 3: Have you heard that there are landlords who are flat

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard that. I mean, there may be some

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Speaker 5: they're going to be more likely to pay and more

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Speaker 5: likely to stay. But I can't imagine there's some bad

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Speaker 5: lack of planning, and then I can see that some

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Speaker 5: might might be quite like denigrating of.

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Speaker 2: The actual duties.

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Speaker 5: You know that I could see that might happen.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen the punishment? I was reading the Herald

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Speaker 3: Set and there was an article suggesting that the punishment

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Speaker 3: that would like the worst case for a landlord who

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Speaker 3: didn't actually manage to get around to doing all of

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Speaker 3: this would be about seven two hundred dollars. And that

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Speaker 3: would be if there are recidivus, the first punishment is

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Speaker 3: more likely to be twenty four hundred.

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Speaker 5: You aware of that, Yes, yeah, I'm aware of that.

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Speaker 5: That's the standard fines, I mean pretty yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: I mean there have been fines of significantly more than

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Speaker 5: that for really bad incidences where the place is in

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Speaker 5: a really bad state. Yeah, I think that the money

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Speaker 5: going to those tenants is good. You know that's the person.

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Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to get to, Andrew is,

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Speaker 3: if you are a landlord and you need to insulate

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Speaker 3: top and bottom, you need to draft stop, you need

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Speaker 3: to put a heat pumping, you need to put a

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Speaker 3: fan in both bathrooms, you need to put a fan

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Speaker 3: in the kitchen. Like, your costs are adding upright, We

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Speaker 3: are now in the tens of that, like, significantly tens

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Speaker 3: just take your chances and pay a two thousand dollars? Fine?

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Speaker 5: Most most aren't doing that. I can see the logic

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Speaker 5: of where you're going. I think for many there will

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Speaker 5: be a couple of items where they're failing at and

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Speaker 5: in that instance it's better to get the work done,

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Speaker 5: have a happier tenant, he's more likely to.

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Speaker 3: Pay, but be way poorer. The point I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: do to the point I'm trying to do to Andrew is.

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Speaker 5: You'll be find again here the right yeah, yeah, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then over time it'll become seven. But you

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Speaker 3: could also, given the sheer numbers, you could also just

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Speaker 3: take it, take a chance getting lost in the numbers, right,

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Speaker 3: because there's no way there's enough compliance officers to deal

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Speaker 3: with all of this. So tomorrow when we get there,

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Speaker 3: is there not a chance that the story tomorrow, which

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Speaker 3: is like, let's say your numbers, thirty percent of houses

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Speaker 3: aren't complying, is actually the same story in about five

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Speaker 3: or ten years, thirty percent of houses aren't complying because

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Speaker 3: a lot of them just simply won't.

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Speaker 5: I do think we need more compliance, We need more

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Speaker 5: compliance managers, and we need more headline stories of people

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Speaker 5: being fined. I have seen fines up to over twenty

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Speaker 5: thousand dollars for really bad states. I think, look it

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Speaker 5: would and we need reskpe finding right, if you get fined.

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Speaker 5: I mean my suggestion would be you checked again. Within

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Speaker 5: three to six months, you're going to find again. You've

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Speaker 5: got time to get that right. Look, it's better for

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Speaker 5: your tenants. They're more likely to pay rent and they're

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Speaker 5: in a healthier, warm place. They're more likely to stay.

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Speaker 5: Healthy. What's your biggest cost, it's not having a tenant

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Speaker 5: for three to six months. You don't want to lack

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Speaker 5: that rental income. If there's a lot that's seventy percent

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Speaker 5: of homes out there do have the standard. People are

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Speaker 5: getting more and more savy about what they need to

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Speaker 5: do to go to tenant the tribunal. There's more cases

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Speaker 5: at the Tennessee tribunal.

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Speaker 4: So your choices.

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Speaker 5: Do I put a fan in like book as an electrician,

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Speaker 5: pay a few hundred dollars, get the fan in, or

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Speaker 5: do I say this pretty tribunal and then not have

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Speaker 5: a tenant for three or four months and have another

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Speaker 5: I know which I'd do.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, thanks very much, appreciate your time. As Andrew Eagle,

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Speaker 3: CEO of New Zealand Green Building Council, we'll come back

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Speaker 3: to this subject edtionally. I'm not quite finished talking about it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I've got fantastic news, probably the best

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Speaker 3: news of the day. The jury has been sent out.

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Speaker 3: This is the long suffering jury in the mushroom chef trial,

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Speaker 3: who've sat through nine weeks of evidence, most of which

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Speaker 3: appears to have been the judge just reiterating everything. They

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Speaker 3: Now the bets are on, right, we're taking bets. Do

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Speaker 3: they deliberate forever and like potentially because they're sequested now.

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Speaker 3: So they've got the hotels, right, So they're in hotels,

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Speaker 3: They've got a nice hotel food. They're having a break,

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Speaker 3: you know, like they're not They don't have to look,

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Speaker 3: they don't have to listen to their husbands or wives.

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Speaker 3: They can just lie there watching television at night, just

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Speaker 3: having a nice old time, jumping in the big spa pool,

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Speaker 3: maybe going up onto the roof, having a swim around,

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Speaker 3: you know, like it could be a nice time in

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Speaker 3: the jury box. So they can either stretch this out

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Speaker 3: all week, or they could come back today with your

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Speaker 3: guilty what do you reckon? I'm going for the latter.

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Speaker 3: By the way, sixteen past four.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather too for see Allen Drive Full Show.

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Speaker 3: Heather, the coward punch law will be a crock unless

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Speaker 3: it comes in with a decent minimum sentence. Many of

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Speaker 3: these cases end up with the offender getting home. Deep Sarah,

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Speaker 3: thank You're going to come back to that in a take.

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Speaker 3: It's nineteen past four and Jason Pine sports talkhosters with me,

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Speaker 3: Hey Poney, Hello, Heather. So Liam Lawson has he redeemed himself?

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Speaker 3: Do you think?

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Speaker 7: I think so? Yeah, good weekend from his best weekend

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Speaker 7: as a Formula One driver, has best ever finish sixth

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Speaker 7: in the race itself, But I think you take it

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Speaker 7: wider than just this morning, to the way he was

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Speaker 7: in practice, the way he was in qualifying, and then

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Speaker 7: the way that he continued it on into the race itself.

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Speaker 7: He's done well in practice and in qualifying in other

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Speaker 3: Honey, scan your brain for me and tell me. Is

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Speaker 3: Okay, they're out there. It's not just the Warriors. Thank

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Speaker 3: Here that the Healthy Homes Laws and ass I've just

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Speaker 3: So while I'm very happy in my house, I could

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Speaker 3: Healthy homes is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Four twenty four, Moving the big stories of the day forward. Aw,

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Speaker 1: it's Heather Dupas and drive with one New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 3: That'd be Daddy's back for twenty seven. Daddy being Chris Luxen.

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Speaker 9: No, I'm not losing any sleep over it, because frankly,

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Speaker 3: of those ed what were they called laura dehydrators? She

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Speaker 2: For ever.

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Speaker 1: Having the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's

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Speaker 1: Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected,

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Speaker 10: Yes now I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: The press gallery in around about ten minutes time. Hither

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Speaker 3: This is unfortunately what anyway, somebody has text in and said,

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Speaker 3: Two firefighters have been fatally shot while responding to a

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Speaker 3: And finally, police and Massachusetts have safely returned an escaped

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Speaker 2: And cracker shortage. We'll run them low on food.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 3: Olli Peter's and six pur perf Life presenters with us Aoli, Hey, Heather,

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Speaker 3: how long do you reckon before they come back with

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Speaker 13: So look, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: You want to go in and get the burger off

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Speaker 3: You have you've been slogging it out for the state.

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Speaker 3: you're okay to go guilty.

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Speaker 13: You shouldn't have no.

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Speaker 8: what a stupid comment from me, like I've never made

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Speaker 8: the gym in a hotel.

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Speaker 3: I'm just a room service bug of that. Well, I

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Speaker 3: have another burger I have. I think sometimes, do you know,

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Speaker 3: do you not even travel across some times where you

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Speaker 3: know you get like like a proper a proper jet

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Speaker 3: lagging where you're.

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Speaker 8: The oh yeah, when you go from like Sydney to Perth,

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Speaker 8: Like that's a proper jet.

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Speaker 3: Lag Australian honestly. But if you travel a good twelve hours,

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Speaker 3: like let's say you land yourself in Kenya or something,

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Speaker 3: and then you know it's nighttime, when it's hass to

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Speaker 3: be daytime, a good gym session will sort of just

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Speaker 3: get Cucadian rhythm back, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Exactly?

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Speaker 8: If you're in ky Town, you can just walk up

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Speaker 8: to table mountain or cycle down to the caper.

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Speaker 3: Good hope, fantastic. How good is that? Okay? Now, what's

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Speaker 3: the Foreign ministap to in Washington.

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Speaker 8: She's on a way, Pennywong to go and visits her

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Speaker 8: counterparts in the United States. She's on a mission to

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Speaker 8: patch up the faltering relationship between our countries.

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Speaker 6: So obviously, you know, first.

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Speaker 8: And foremost of This meeting is about UCUS, so to

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Speaker 8: make sure that we're all still on the same page

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Speaker 8: with the UCUST but also to try and strike some

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Speaker 8: sort of trade deal as well with the United States.

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Speaker 8: So she's got a one on one meeting with a

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Speaker 8: US counterpart, Marcio Rubio, and other nations there from that

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Speaker 8: quad alliance, a US, Japan, India, obviously Australia to join

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Speaker 8: that conversation, so this is important, This is crucial. Obviously

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Speaker 8: Anthony Albanezi failed to have a one on one with

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump at the G seven. He didn't get to NATO,

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Speaker 8: so this conversation is very important between our nations. You

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Speaker 8: guys getting that rain, Yeah, we are both sides of

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Speaker 8: the country. So we've actually just seen the sees in

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Speaker 8: New South Aisle's warn that come Wednesday they're really in

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Speaker 8: for it, and that's right up and down the eastern seaboard.

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Speaker 8: They're expected to get about one hundred mills of rain

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Speaker 8: this week. Over here in Wa we're going to get

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Speaker 8: about fifty mills of rain this week. So Australia's copying it.

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Speaker 8: And I will never complain about the rain because we

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Speaker 8: need it in this country. But when you're getting it

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Speaker 8: in that sort of volume, Heather, there's obviously warnings that

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Speaker 8: need to be heated, and I just hope nobody's going

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Speaker 8: to be in a situation where places are flooding again

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Speaker 8: and river banks are bursting. But we will see how

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Speaker 8: the week con faults.

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Speaker 3: So China's told you guys not to spend any more

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Speaker 3: on defense, which obviously means that you'll listen to them.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well we probably.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's anything to go by. I went to

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Speaker 8: the opening of the Terra Cotta Warriors here in Perth

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Speaker 8: last week. They're pretty specky. We're on our feet for

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Speaker 8: ninety minutes as the Wa government just kissed the ass

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Speaker 8: of the Chinese Communist government. For that period of time.

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Speaker 8: It was honestly the most nauseating thing I have ever

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Speaker 8: been to. My point going back into this is that

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Speaker 8: Anthony Albinizi is off to China next month to catch

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Speaker 8: up with his counterpart there in China. And you know,

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Speaker 8: big editorial in the daily newspaper today, the Australians saying,

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Speaker 8: as you just said, don't spend that money on defense,

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Speaker 8: ye spend that money on social services and the little

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Speaker 8: friends here, let's all just hold hands and.

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Speaker 3: Submarine through your sea and shot some shots some in

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Speaker 3: the sky. You don't mind, We're just showing off.

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Speaker 8: Honestly, I know that this is beyond me, but our

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Speaker 8: diplomatic global relations just needs a little bit of work,

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Speaker 8: and just the kiss ass nature of it is just nauseating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what? I'm going to put it

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Speaker 3: to you?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 3: It's just a cultural difference because I think I think

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Speaker 3: they love that stuff in China. It's just it's just

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Speaker 3: too showy for Western tastes.

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Speaker 8: That's maybe just give me a seat, though, I don't

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Speaker 8: to stand for ninety minutes and listen to all this crap.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's your problem, Okay, Oliver, thank you. I wondered

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Speaker 3: what was making you better? Oliver Peterson six pr PERS

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Speaker 3: Live presenter, Hey, I'm speaking of Western taste though. Oh

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Speaker 3: have you been watching the Jeff Bearsos wedding. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 3: could you if like they need to change the definition

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Speaker 3: in the Diary of nuvau Reesh and just go nuvau

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Speaker 3: resh definition Jeff bears Offs wedding. I mean, was that

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Speaker 3: not nauseating? So the thing that he's wrapped it up with,

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Speaker 3: think God, the thing that's finished now, I think, I think,

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Speaker 3: but hey, there's always the chance that they have an

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Speaker 3: addendum and some more parties. The last thing, apparently was

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Speaker 3: the pajama party. Now you've got to see the pajama

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Speaker 3: party to really appreciate the pajama party. It wasn't if

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Speaker 3: somebody sent met Thank god I don't associate in these group,

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Speaker 3: because I would have literally turned up in pajamas and

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Speaker 3: it would have embarrassed myself. Nobody did, obviously, because they

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Speaker 3: know what they're doing in this Neuvau recircle that they

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Speaker 3: move in. They all came in sort of lingerie and

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Speaker 3: bay it, do you know what I mean? It was

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Speaker 3: like sleep wear inspired. So of course the cadet Kardashians

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Speaker 3: were all completely half naked. Money Kardashian turned up in

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Speaker 3: what looked like a sort of like fluffy dressing gown,

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Speaker 3: but it was it was dressing gown, come you know,

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Speaker 3: going out coat. Obviously. Kim Kardashian, no surprise whatsoever, was

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Speaker 3: the most hussy of the lot. She had everything kind

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Speaker 3: of like you just it was just decent, do you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Just in the right places where

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Speaker 3: we being covered up. But we had the suspenders and

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Speaker 3: the sea through stuff. Usher came out and quite looking

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Speaker 3: quite nice in a Hugh Hefna smoking coat. Leonardo DiCaprio

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Speaker 3: looked as shady as I think he might actually be.

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Speaker 3: Oprah came out looking quite classy and silk. It was

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Speaker 3: somebody said in the office, Paulo Bridgeton, and I think

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Speaker 3: that's what it was. Go and have a look and enjoy.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen Away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics was centrics credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Colan, the Herald's political editors with us A Thomas

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Speaker 3: A good afternoon. So Luxeon's back. How's he going?

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Speaker 14: Oh, look, he looks like me. He got back on Friday.

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Speaker 14: He's looking pretty well rested, so I assume he had

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Speaker 14: a bit of a sleep this weekend. He was all

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Speaker 14: about foreign fears, as you'd expecting his post cabinet press conference,

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Speaker 14: which just wrapped up some comments about his travels. He's

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Speaker 14: been away for quite a long time for Prime minister,

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Speaker 14: a couple of weeks. I mean basically the takeaway obviously,

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Speaker 14: as he went to China, our big trading partner, and

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Speaker 14: then NATO, where he met up with some of our

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Speaker 14: big security partners. Not allies, but partners, and he basically says, look,

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Speaker 14: you know, we'd like both, and you can have both.

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Speaker 14: You can have trade and you can have security, and

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Speaker 14: you can't have one without the other. You need a

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Speaker 14: secure world in order to have trade. But obviously he's

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Speaker 14: not keen to wade into the fact that those security

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Speaker 14: partners are taking a pretty dim view of the actions

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Speaker 14: of our trading partner China.

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Speaker 3: Now what do you make of these law and order

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Speaker 3: changes that have come out?

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Speaker 14: Well, they obviously the government's in a bit of a

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Speaker 14: pickle with its polling, I mean, and some of these

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Speaker 14: have just are just taking effect over the weekend. So

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Speaker 14: for example, the applying a cap a sorry, capping that

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Speaker 14: the discounts that judges can apply for mitigating factors of

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Speaker 14: up to forty percent. There was announce on the campaign

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Speaker 14: trail and it was legislated a little while ago. It

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Speaker 14: takes effect now other stuff as a result of the

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Speaker 14: coalition agreement with New Zealand. First, so this big crackdown

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Speaker 14: on coward punches, so you can get up to life

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Speaker 14: imprisonment now on well, sorry, you will be able to

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Speaker 14: get life imprisonment. And once the changes go through.

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Speaker 3: If that is presumably if the person dies, right, correct.

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Speaker 14: So that is if it has ruled a homicide, then

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Speaker 14: then then if the attack leads to death and it

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Speaker 14: has ruled a homicide, then that that leads to a

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Speaker 14: maximum penalty of life imprisonment.

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Speaker 3: Could it be Thomas?

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Speaker 14: Should it be? Look, I'll leave that one to the voter.

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Speaker 3: Because I mean just think about it like this, Right,

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Speaker 3: if you go up to somebody, and if someone goes

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Speaker 3: up to somebody and stabs them in the gut and

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Speaker 3: they die, that's a homicide, isn't it.

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Speaker 14: Definitely?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because you understand the effect of a knife

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Speaker 3: in someone's stomach. So only if somebody gets If you

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Speaker 3: punch somebody in the back of the head and they

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Speaker 3: fall on the ground and die, the equally should be

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Speaker 3: a homicide. Because we've seen too much of this. We

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Speaker 3: understand the effect of punching somebody who's not expecting a

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Speaker 3: punch and then falling.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean there was some I mean, advocates have

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Speaker 14: called for this for a long time. We even saw

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Speaker 14: there was some I believe that either the last parliament

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Speaker 14: or the parliament before last, there was a members bill

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Speaker 14: that was introduced to increase the penalties for these coward punches,

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Speaker 14: so it is very very popular. We haven't actually seen

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Speaker 14: any of the advice from the officials, but certainly like

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Speaker 14: in the PM sort of alluded to this in postcab

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Speaker 14: today as someone asked about whether or not there should

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Speaker 14: be an advertising campaign launched to warn people of the

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Speaker 14: effects of coward punches, and he basically said, well, look,

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Speaker 14: people know that that's wrong to hit someone. Don't do it.

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Speaker 14: You don't need to advertise, you don't need to be

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Speaker 14: in public money telling people that they're heading people's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, because because someone who throws a coward punch,

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Speaker 3: coward punch is obviously going to be tuned into whatever.

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Speaker 14: Someone would watch a TV and think, you know what

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Speaker 14: I'm going to I won't hit something with that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, might not do that, might just stab them in

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Speaker 3: the bicep. All right, now you pointed this out to us.

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Speaker 3: We weren't aware of this. But the Family Boost is

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Speaker 3: supposed to Nichola Willis was going to make some changes

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Speaker 3: to boost the uptake and she was due to announce

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Speaker 3: it by the end of the month, which is today.

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Speaker 14: Which is today is the announcement, Well, the announcements so

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Speaker 14: we asked the Prime Minister about this. This is the

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Speaker 14: seventy five dollars a week that you get if you

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Speaker 14: have a child in early childhood education. Only a tiny

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Speaker 14: number of people were getting the full amount, and actually

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Speaker 14: not as many people were getting the creators. The government

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Speaker 14: wanted to little Willis, as you say, situd announce changes

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Speaker 14: by the end of the month, and has not. But

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Speaker 14: the Prime Minister said in post cabinet press conference today

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Speaker 14: that the decision has been made. So the cabinets agreed

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Speaker 14: to something and what that decision is is going to

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Speaker 14: be announced shortly, very shortly, apparently. So I know you've

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Speaker 14: got Nichola Willis on your show this evening, So.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be on our show, is it, Thomas?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? Well, I last before the

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Speaker 3: end of the month, isn't it.

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Speaker 14: I know she has what it's about seven hours, so

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Speaker 14: so yes, I take up the opportunity, Thomas.

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Speaker 3: You've built me up. She better not disappointed. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. Appreciate it. Thomas Coglin, the Herald's political editor.

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Speaker 3: If she doesn't have anything to announce, you could take

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Speaker 3: it up with him, because now he's created an expectation,

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Speaker 3: isn't it nine away from five?

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 15: The prime is of Crystal Lex was with us. You

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Speaker 15: have a deadline for July one to announce something with

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Speaker 15: somebody who put applications into.

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Speaker 2: You around city regional. Yes, yes, we've got that work underway.

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Speaker 2: Is a tower on that.

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Speaker 9: I'm not going to say, go you smile what people

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Speaker 9: are listening.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy coming on this show. Now I know

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 15: Now here's where it's going to get ugly for you.

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Speaker 15: This business of Ikea, and I'm assuming everyone else who

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Speaker 15: wants to build something in this country explain it to me.

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Speaker 2: It's insane.

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Speaker 9: So getting anything built in this country is very torturous.

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Speaker 9: So we're changing our fast tracked laws.

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Speaker 15: So this is Labour's law, not yours. And once your

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Speaker 15: law comes in this stuff, we have to stop all

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Speaker 15: this done stuff back tomorrow at six am the mic

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Speaker 15: hosking Breakfast with Maybe's Real Estate News Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Listen on the Ikea Consent. That's obviously got a little

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Speaker 3: bit of news over the weekend. If you haven't caught

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Speaker 3: up on this, Ikea has a consent for Sylvia Park

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Speaker 3: and it has a bunch of conditions, including inviting representatives

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Speaker 3: of seven different mun of Fenawa groups to undertake cultural monitoring,

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Speaker 3: cut a care and other such cultural ceremonies on the

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Speaker 3: site at the prestart meeting, the commencement of earthworks, and

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Speaker 3: immediately prior to completion of bulk earthworks across the site,

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Speaker 3: with ten days notice before each of these events. We're

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Speaker 3: going to speak to the RMA Minister Chris Bishop about this, well,

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Speaker 3: at least the minister who's making the RMA changes because

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Speaker 3: it's an RMA problem. Lots of people will I think

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Speaker 3: the idea of having Manafena would do this kind of

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Speaker 3: thing has kind of become so intrigued. We've kind of

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Speaker 3: got used to it, so to challenge it does feel

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Speaker 3: a little bit on the nose, right, So probably a

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Speaker 3: lot of people will be a little bit like it. Oh,

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Speaker 3: why are we talking about this? But just for one second,

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Speaker 3: imagine that it's another group, not manafenaware. Imagine it's I

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Speaker 3: don't know the Baptists, right, So let's say the Baptists

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Speaker 3: are nearby to Sylvia Park and they go, do you

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Speaker 3: know what we care about what's going on in our

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Speaker 3: little space. So if we could come and please just

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Speaker 3: do a prayer at every kind of significant you just

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Speaker 3: ten days notice and we're going to do a prayer,

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Speaker 3: you know, like we'd be like and no, because why

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Speaker 3: do you need to pray over some stuff being put

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Speaker 3: into the ground to build something?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: So the same thing should, potentially, I would argue, apply here.

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Speaker 3: So anywhere. We're going to talk to Chris Bishop about

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Speaker 3: it when he's with us, and then we're going to

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Speaker 3: go to the huddle with that. Right, this is what

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Speaker 3: we're doing with our phones. Bn Z has done a study,

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Speaker 3: now Benzi has done this study about what you're doing

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Speaker 3: with your phone because they care about they're trying to

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Speaker 3: stop scamming, right, so they want you to be focused

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Speaker 3: on your phone when you're looking at your phone, and

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Speaker 3: they're worried that we're multitasking, right, So apparently heaps of

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Speaker 3: us are doing other things when we're responding to emails

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Speaker 3: or texts or notifications or something like that. For example,

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Speaker 3: thirty five percent of us are doing weewies. We're in

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Speaker 3: the bathroom and we're going, oh look, oh that person said,

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Speaker 3: we've got a hundred thousand blink like, Okay, well you

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Speaker 3: can see how that's a bad idea. Twenty eight percent

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Speaker 3: of us are actually having a meeting when we're clicking

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Speaker 3: on those little things, but forty one percent of us

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Speaker 3: are in the middle of a face to face conversation.

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Speaker 3: And look, we've all done it, but I don't like

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Speaker 3: it that we do this, and we've discussed this and

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Speaker 3: it is rude and so that is the thing that

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Speaker 3: I've got hung up on. So we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: to an etiquette expert about this about why is it

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Speaker 3: that we're doing these things. She will be with us

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Speaker 3: at quarter past. Also listen, Oh no, I can't do

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Speaker 3: it now, I haven't got time. Okay, somebody has talked

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Speaker 3: about whether we need bathroom fans, right, this is apropos

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Speaker 3: the healthy homes thing. The German has got some German

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Speaker 3: advice for us on this, So we're going to get

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Speaker 3: to that. We'll get to that in the next half hour,

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Speaker 3: hopefully stand by Next up, Justice Minister on the coward Punch,

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Speaker 3: Newstalks d.

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Speaker 1: Be digging through the spin spence to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Oring It's Heather Dupasyl drive with One New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: get connected news talks V.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. The government is on a law and order roll

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Speaker 3: this afternoon it's announced coward punches will be made a

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Speaker 3: specific offense to make sure that perpetrators get punished more

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Speaker 3: harshly so if a victim dies following the attack, the

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Speaker 3: maximum penalty is life imprisonment and new offenses will be

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Speaker 3: added to the three strikes regiment. Of course, earlier tougher

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Speaker 3: penalties were announced for anyone who attacks first responders. Paul

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Speaker 3: Goldsmith is the Justice Minister and.

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Speaker 12: With us have Paul, Hi, Heather, how are you going?

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Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you? What's brought on the coward punch?

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Speaker 3: It changes ah, well, look.

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Speaker 12: At something that's been part of the New Zealand First

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Speaker 12: National Coalition and has been a real concern for a

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Speaker 12: lot of people for a long time that there's these

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Speaker 12: people are just coming in with a king hit from

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Speaker 12: the back, causing mayhem and changing people's lives forever, and

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Speaker 12: we want to send a stronger signal that that's absolutely

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Speaker 12: not accepted and we'll have real harsh consequences.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it will disinvent incentivize somebody who is

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Speaker 3: I don't know, let's say on the terps feeling got

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Speaker 3: their blood up and wanting to punch someone.

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Speaker 12: Well, look, I mean that's a sort of an age

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Speaker 12: old sort of justice debate, and people in the heat

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Speaker 12: of the moment do stupid things and don't think about

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Speaker 12: the consequences. But sort of more broadly, it's little bit

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Speaker 12: like water on a stone. Society ever sends a message

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Speaker 12: that oh, look, will come up with excuses for crime

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Speaker 12: and we'll sort of every way to avoid sheeting home responsibility.

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Speaker 12: Or we can send a different message, and that's what

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Speaker 12: this government has been sending consistently, one which is there

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Speaker 12: are real consequences for crime. We are going to make

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Speaker 12: people accountable and we're going to send a very strong

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Speaker 12: message from Parliament to the judiciary that we expect serious

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Speaker 12: consequences for serious crime. And so that's what the sentencing

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Speaker 12: reform is about, limiting the amount of discretion that judges

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Speaker 12: have to reduce sentences right across the board. It's what

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Speaker 12: three strikes is about. And then what we've done here

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Speaker 12: with sending a single around an extra year for the

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Speaker 12: cowards punch over on top of the current sentencing and

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Speaker 12: likewise for the first responder, sending that clear message.

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Speaker 3: On the first responders Labor's Duncan Wegg's web says you

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Speaker 3: already get a longer sentence if you attack a first responder.

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Speaker 12: Well, at the moment, what's called an aggravating factor and center,

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Speaker 12: and we wanted to go one step further in that

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Speaker 12: say well, actually know we're going to lift the maximum

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Speaker 12: sentence a couple of years for it.

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Speaker 3: Would it have the same practical outcoming? Would it be

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Speaker 3: different than Harsher?

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Speaker 12: Oh no, it's just taking up another notch. And you

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Speaker 12: know so Parliament sent a signal before in relation to

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Speaker 12: police that it's an aggravating factor when it comes to sentencing,

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Speaker 12: and we were taking it up another notch now, which

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Speaker 12: is to say, well, actually more than that. Actually we

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Speaker 12: want to increase the maximum penalty to send even more

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Speaker 12: powerful message. And we're also including the ambulance drivers and

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Speaker 12: firefighters and also corrections officers because these are the people

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Speaker 12: that go forward to danger in society and they should

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Speaker 12: be treated with absolute respect, not beaten up.

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Speaker 3: Paul, Thank you very much, appreciate it, Paul Goldsmith. Justice

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Speaker 3: Minister Heather due to see Allen Transpower is warning that

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Speaker 3: we urgently need more electricity generation to come online as

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Speaker 3: the gas is running out faster than we expected. Now,

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Speaker 3: according to modeling, there may not be enough power in

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Speaker 3: the grid to meet demand next winter. James Kilty is

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Speaker 3: Transpowers CEO and with us Hi, James Hi, He the

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Speaker 3: hell are you? I'm very well? Thank you? Well we

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Speaker 3: have blackouts next winter?

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Speaker 16: No, we won't hither. What we've released is something called

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Speaker 16: the Security of Supply Assessment. It looks ten years ahead

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Speaker 16: and tests the electricity system's ability to meet demand and

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Speaker 16: looking at three specific tests, and we do it every year.

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Speaker 16: It's a role and report. This year, what it shows

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Speaker 16: is under two of the tests, things are actually improving,

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Speaker 16: getting better, and under one of them, the winter energy margin,

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Speaker 16: which you often hear talked about, things are getting a

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Speaker 16: little bit worse year on year. But the tests include

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Speaker 16: a buffer, so the fact that we're dipping slightly below

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Speaker 16: the buffer does not mean that there'll be electricity supply

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Speaker 16: shortages next year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's going on with the electricity generation? Because I

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Speaker 3: thought everybody was sort of getting on with it.

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Speaker 16: That's absolutely the case. There's an enormous amounts of investment

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Speaker 16: happening around the country as we speak. So over the

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Speaker 16: last first five years of this decade, In fact, about

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Speaker 16: ten percent more electricity generation has been invested in and

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Speaker 16: delivered and the same looks to be happening again over

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Speaker 16: the next few years. The challenges in the background. Gas

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Speaker 16: supplies in the country have declined more quickly than expected,

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Speaker 16: and so there's a need for us to make sure

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Speaker 16: we keep the pedal down on new investment and new

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Speaker 16: development of electricity resources.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been kind of a little bit shocking

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Speaker 3: how fast it's dropped off.

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Speaker 13: Has it surprised you.

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Speaker 16: I think it's surprised most industry members and commentators around

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Speaker 16: the industry. It is a precipitous decline in gas supply

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Speaker 16: and availability into electricity generation. But as I say, that

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Speaker 16: level of investment in the system right now is quite amazing.

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Speaker 16: There's enormous amounts of investment happening, new power generation being

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Speaker 16: developed all around the country and new batteries, importantly, new

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Speaker 16: batteries to support the STEM going forward.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. James, thank you very much, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: James Kilty, Transpower CEO.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for cl Hey, do you remember.

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Speaker 3: How last week the IID just piped up and said,

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Speaker 3: you know what we need to do to pay for

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Speaker 3: the pension. We need to lift GST. Chris Luxen's just

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Speaker 3: come back to the country, just shot that down.

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Speaker 9: I don't think taxing then New Zealand to people is

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Speaker 9: the way forward. I think what we've got to do

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Speaker 9: is grow the economy. And what I'm saying is, we

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Speaker 9: know we've been through a difficult time, probably the closest

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Speaker 9: recession we've had since nineteen ninety one. Were now turned

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Speaker 9: the corner. We're seeing some really good signs. When you

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Speaker 9: see the zero percent quarterly growth and then when you

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Speaker 9: see the improvement in the merchandise deficit. That's the way

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Speaker 9: in which we get the economy growing. That's the way

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Speaker 9: we get higher wages. That's the way we get more

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Speaker 9: money into Key's back pockets.

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Speaker 3: And there was always the alternative that the ID could

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Speaker 3: have considered, which was just cutting spending thirteen past five. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I've got some good news for you if you have

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Speaker 3: been by eyeing up that byd Shark six, like Chris,

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Speaker 3: who I met today, who eyed it up so hard.

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Speaker 3: I actually had to give him a tour of the vehicle.

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Speaker 3: I was very happy to do it, and he liked

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Speaker 3: he saw. But if you are like Chris and you've

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Speaker 3: been eyeing it up and you haven't got around to

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Speaker 3: buying it. Got some good news for you. You have

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Speaker 3: got extra time to get that five thousand dollars your

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Speaker 3: WAGH promotion. This has been extended for July as well

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Speaker 3: as June because BYD have managed to secure more vehicles,

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Speaker 3: more Shark six and more C Lion six vehicles, which

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Speaker 3: means you can still get the five thousand dollars to

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Speaker 3: spend towards that, but only on those two models, and

868
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: only in July, and only while stocks Laska's. Unfortunately, the

869
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: other models are now on pre order because there's just

870
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: been unprecedented demand. I'll remind you what this is, right,

871
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: it's five thousand dollars. You can decide how you spend it.

872
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: You can use it towards the cost of the vehicle,

873
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: the on road costs, or upgrade the vehicle with your

874
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: own accessories, whatever you like. And the reason you want

875
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: to look at these two vehicles is the Shark six

876
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 3: has won the Auto Car Car of the Year award

877
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four and the c Lion six won

878
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: the AA Driven Car of the Year Award for twenty

879
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: twenty four. How good is that today? Also, by the way,

880
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: if you want to help Saint John as the last

881
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: day to help them out with the June appeal. So

882
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: you've still got time head online byd auto dot co

883
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: dot MZ, Heather, do per se al. It's seventeen past

884
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: five now. A new survey by BNZ has found that

885
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: our addiction to our smartphones is so bad that thirty

886
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: five percent of us respond to texts and emails on

887
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: the loop. Twenty eight percent of us respond while we're

888
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 3: in meetings. And this is the thing that gets my goat.

889
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: Forty one percent of us respond while we're face to

890
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: face with someone in the flesh and a muscin is

891
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: an etiquette expertion with us. Now, Hello Anna, Hello Heather.

892
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: Forty one percent is alive because it's one hundred percent

893
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: of us, isn't it?

894
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 17: It is well, not your may of course I did

895
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 17: do it today and I knew I was doing it.

896
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I had I had so many people around

897
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 3: me I could not go. But we do it, don't we.

898
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: We all at some point we're talking to someone, pick

899
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: up the phone and do something before we can help

900
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: us out.

901
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 17: Well, look, the rule of some with this, Heather, is

902
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 17: the rule way actually The rule with all good manners

903
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 17: is putting another person before yourself.

904
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 4: Yes.

905
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 17: So if this is something that you can do without

906
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 17: offending the other person, absolutely fine. So if I was

907
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 17: speaking to you right now and you didn't know I

908
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 17: was also buying something online, no harm, no foul. The

909
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 17: reality is most of us are rubbish at multitasking, absolute rubbish.

910
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 17: But if you're not going to offend the other person,

911
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 17: knock yourself out. However, if you are in the company

912
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 17: of another person, it is criminal to pick up your

913
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 17: phone and suggest that the other person is less interesting

914
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 17: or less important. Even if it's true, then they really are.

915
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: It's very Pulsedanna, Can I just because I feel so

916
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: bad about it? Can I just clarify I didn't. I

917
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: was actually on my phone when somebody started talking to me,

918
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: and because I was halfway through something, I finished it

919
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: before I actually engaged with them. So I've got a

920
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: bit of lattitude. They haven't. I.

921
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 17: That's on them for approaching you while you weren't available.

922
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 3: You are excused, Okay, thank you, thank you. I feel

923
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: much better about it. Can I talk to you about

924
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: this though? Because I have been railing at the boomers

925
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: right boomers are primary offenders. But I realize not the

926
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 3: only offenders. But what is up anna with a boomer

927
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: when they take a phone call and I'm talking about

928
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: my mum right now, she's an my company, and then

929
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: she goes speak a phone and just and holds it

930
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: up to her face and speak of phones, so that

931
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: everybody has to listen to what's going on.

932
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 17: Well, look, I think a lot of the boomers think

933
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 17: that they can do as they please, now, don't they

934
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 17: because they're boomers, and they'll tell you exactly what they

935
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 17: think about you, what's your hair, what you've done wrong,

936
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 17: and how you could improve yourself generally because they're older.

937
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's a generational problem.

938
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 17: I think it is. I'm sorry, boomers, but I'm going

939
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 17: to call you out on that way.

940
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: Okay. And then what about my friend? You know who?

941
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: You are not naming names, but my friend went to

942
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: a concert with me recently and she had one or

943
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: two seven year bloc and all her manners went out

944
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: out and she spent the entire concert and dinner on

945
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 3: her phone.

946
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 17: Well that's just disgraceful, And listen, no matter how much

947
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 17: booze or whatever you have, we all know that's bad form.

948
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: Okay, So the ruler is we just do should the

949
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: rule not be prioritize people over phones?

950
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 17: And the rule is be present, be in the moment,

951
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 17: and prioritize who is with you, over being on your phone,

952
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 17: and over what's to come, and over if it's not

953
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 17: on Instagram, it didn't happen. It's us a nonsense, and

954
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 17: we need to value the company that's with us, or

955
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 17: we'll end up having no friends at all.

956
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: Actually, you and I could be friends the way we're going.

957
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: Thank you for that, and I think I would enjoy

958
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: the experience a lot. Thank you, Anna. Anna mustn't to

959
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: get expert. Guess what you know who you are? Yeah,

960
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: because I was going to say, wait for it, wait

961
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: for it? No, not even She was all, you on

962
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: your phone, won't you you know who? S nabe you? No,

963
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: I probably won't. I don't want to ruin your reputation.

964
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: You've got it, You've got a big person's job. She's

965
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 3: already sent me a text with a crying laugh face

966
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: because she knows it was her, and she's she was

967
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: probably on her phone right then when I said it,

968
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: and she was like, oh, just quickly stop that and

969
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: she was probably having multiple conversations and then text me

970
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: the crying laugh face as well, so she knows what

971
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 3: she's up to her anyway, we'll work on it. We'll

972
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: see if we can improve her. Oh oh, mars, hither

973
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: did you read Hapkins's excuse for putting people in her

974
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: hotels in roade Vegas? The guy couldn't lay straight in bed,

975
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: muzz Yes, thank you, you've got to hear this. We'll

976
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: get to it in a tick five twenty one.

977
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: Informed inside into today's issues. It's Heather duplicy elan drive

978
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

979
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: That'd be.

980
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: Twenty four past five. Now those numbers showing how many

981
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: landlords have got their house or not got their houses

982
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: up to the healthy home standards in time for tomorrow's

983
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: deadlight on damning, aren't they? And not damning on the landlord,

984
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, damning on the rules for being

985
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: too onerous. So According to a survey which has been

986
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 3: done by the Ministry of Housing and Urban Development, only

987
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: seventeen percent of landlords say they fully met the standards.

988
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: According to a separate survey by the Property Inspection Group

989
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: Company Better Group, only twenty three percent of properties achieved

990
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: in overall compliance pass Right. Now, you can argue with

991
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: both of those surveys. Right, The first one was done

992
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: last year, so it might be out of date. The

993
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: second one looks like it might include owner occupies. Whatever,

994
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: the number is horrific even if right. So let's be

995
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: conservative about this. Let's assume let's take out some of

996
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: the dodgy stuff. Even if you take a conservative guess

997
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 3: of seventy percent passing, that still means thirty percent failing.

998
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: Do you know how many rentals we're talking about with

999
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: thirty percent failing. It's about one hundred and eighty thousand

1000
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: rentals in this country. That is massive, And I'm sorry

1001
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: to say, but frankly, just because of the maths, the

1002
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: cost of getting a villa up to scratch is maybe

1003
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: I would say fifteen thousand dollars maybe more. The fine

1004
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: though for doing so if you get caught, and that

1005
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: is a big if. If you get caught, given there

1006
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: are thousands of landlords out there in the same boat,

1007
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: it's about two four hundred dollars for the first offense,

1008
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: so I'm told. And if you were a repeat offender,

1009
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: maybe you get fined seven two hundred dollars. Now, I

1010
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: think just based on that maths right, if you get caught,

1011
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: the fine is tiny compared to how much you end

1012
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: up paying. I think that explains why so many of

1013
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: these landlords haven't done it. It was said at the

1014
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 3: time that these rules were brought in, that the rules

1015
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: were too harsh, too expensive, and that they lift rentals

1016
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: to a standard above what even landlords live in. And

1017
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: I think the numbers that we're seeing today ahead of

1018
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: the rules actually kicking in tomorrow, I think the numbers

1019
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: bear that out.

1020
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: Heather duplusy Ellen talk to the.

1021
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: Huddle about that. So this is what Chippy's done. Chippy's

1022
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: given an interview to the local media in roade Vegas

1023
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 3: on the subject of whether Labor could possibly ever win

1024
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 3: the Roadevegas seats at the next election given what Labor

1025
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: had done to Road to rua right, putting all those

1026
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: emergency accommodation motels and blah blah blah, and and just

1027
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: like loads of emergency people and driving all the tourists out.

1028
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: Chippy has said, bold as brass to the local papers.

1029
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: The Labor government was given bad advice and told that

1030
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: out of towners weren't flocking to Row to Rua, inferring

1031
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: that he thought that everybody who was in those emergency

1032
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: accommodation motels were actually from Row to Rua. Come off

1033
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: at chippy. Do you remember how many of those motels

1034
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: and hotels were being used for emergency accommodation? It was

1035
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: sixty two at the height. Now, come on, sixty two

1036
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: of them full of these people. You cannot possibly tell

1037
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: me that you thought all sixty two were full of

1038
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: people from roder or Come off it anyway that he's

1039
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: trying to sell you one, just as long as you

1040
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: know heither. Regarding the fan in the bathroom, every bathroom

1041
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: and every kitchen needs extraction fans. Some people don't know

1042
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 3: what they're talking about. I'm a licensed builder. What's the word, please,

1043
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: Laura Storu s Lufton. Okay, what you need, Kerry the

1044
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: builder is a window. Okay. What the Germans do is

1045
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: for ten minutes in the morning that open all the windows,

1046
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: just air that house out. You don't need a fan,

1047
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: you just need windows. It's called stors Lufton. You're welcome

1048
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: headline stances and with my.

1049
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

1050
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: drive home.

1051
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

1052
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

1053
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: The'd be.

1054
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 18: No idea that.

1055
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: Maybe the whole labor team has come to memory loss

1056
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: just as well we haven't have they or are they

1057
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: doing that thing that your partner, your husband or your

1058
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: wife does. So you're like, now, I won't say that name,

1059
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: don't remember doing that, and you know full well I

1060
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: feel like what I'm saying is I think we're in

1061
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 3: an abusive relationship with the labor party. The huddle is

1062
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: standing by going to be with us very shortly. We

1063
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: may have solved, by the way, the gender pay gap

1064
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: at board level. I'm going to ring you through those

1065
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: numbers shortly. Right now, it's twenty four away from six now.

1066
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: There's been a fair bit of attention over the weekend

1067
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: on the reasuls consent requirements that Ikia had to meet

1068
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: to build the Sylvia Park Store. Now, this included consulting

1069
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: with seven man of Fenna were groups on water and

1070
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: land management, and also inviting Manafena were to perform karakia

1071
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: and other cultural ceremonies on the site at least three

1072
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 3: separate times. Chris Bishop is the minister responsible for RMA

1073
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: reforming with us. Now, hey bish, hello, are you happy

1074
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: with us or you're going to change it.

1075
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 19: I've read it over the weekend from Simon Cord put

1076
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 19: it out and I just thought, oh, jeepus creepers, here

1077
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 19: we go again. Is this the stuff that drives people

1078
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 19: absolutely bonkers? Right? And it's exactly the reason why we

1079
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Speaker 19: are ultimately repealing and replacing the RMA with new legislation.

1080
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 19: It's the sort of red tape that just gets in

1081
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 19: the way. It drives up the cost, makes it too

1082
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 19: hard to do stuff in this country. Imagine having to

1083
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 19: go through all that just to build an I care.

1084
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 19: I mean, as David Seymour said, you know this is

1085
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 19: why we can't have nice things in New Zealand. And

1086
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 19: it's ridiculous.

1087
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: So can you tell me what part of the RMA

1088
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: allows this to happen.

1089
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 19: There are sections of the RMA around engagement with Mani

1090
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 19: Fenua and local ewi and cultural impact assessments and things

1091
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 19: like that. There's a whole suite of pieces of legislation

1092
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 19: or pieces of the RMA that will allow this. But

1093
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 19: to be honest, councils go way too far and people

1094
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 19: who grant them sents go way too far on this stuff.

1095
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 19: So some of it is authorized by the Act, and

1096
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 19: we're changing the Act to get rid of that. But

1097
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 19: it's also a cultural thing where councils, you know, randomly

1098
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 19: add this stuff into.

1099
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: Resource So this is an aling.

1100
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 19: It's well, yeah, ultimately counsels are the ones who who

1101
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 19: you know, grant resource consents under the RMA. So but

1102
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 19: it's but it's fundamentally it's the authorizing statute and that's

1103
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 19: why we're changing it.

1104
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 3: So if you change the RMA, how can you change

1105
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 3: it to avoid Auckland Council just interpreting your future RMA

1106
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: exactly like this.

1107
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 19: So you've got to put in really strict guard rails

1108
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 19: to actually prevent make it not legal to do those things.

1109
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 19: And that's what Simon Court and I are going through

1110
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 19: at the moment where where you know, literally were are

1111
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 19: donkey deep at the moment receiving you know, hundreds of

1112
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 19: pieces of paper each and every week, going through making

1113
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 19: detailed decisions around this stuff, and we are I just

1114
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 19: want to assure everyone listening, we are so keen and

1115
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 19: clear on making the Act simpler and making it easier

1116
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 19: to do things and we are just got an absolute

1117
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 19: focus on stripping out the bureaucracy of the stuff. You

1118
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 19: do need some things, but you know, as simple as possible.

1119
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: Okay, But what of the things that you have seen

1120
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: here with I care do you want to make sure

1121
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: cannot happen under your new RMA.

1122
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 19: Well, I don't think, for example, that it should be

1123
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 19: you should be allowed to make it mandatory to invite

1124
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 19: representatives of Manofenua groups to engage in CURA care on sites.

1125
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 19: That should not be a mandatory resource consent requirement before

1126
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 19: the commencement of earthworks or immediately prior to complete What.

1127
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 3: About what about having to consult with Manafenawa on things

1128
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: like erosion and sediment control measures, storm water treatment and planting.

1129
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 19: Now, I don't think that should be required. I do think,

1130
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 19: I just want to stress I do think there is

1131
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 19: a role for Manfenoa in the resource management process. It's where,

1132
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 19: for example, you are affecting take for example, a site

1133
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 19: of significance to the local EWI for example, where they

1134
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 19: haven't an elder who's buried, or a camartuos whose passed,

1135
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 19: or there was a par in the past, or there

1136
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 19: was a battle ground.

1137
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 4: Those things.

1138
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 19: I think most reasonable people would say, well, you actually

1139
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 19: you should if you want to do something, you should

1140
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 19: go and talk to the people affected by it. But

1141
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 19: stuff like you know, stormwater treatment, planting, ecological enhancement, I'm

1142
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 19: reading the resource incent now erosion and sentiment control. I

1143
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 19: mean that that is just standard operating to see it.

1144
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 19: There's just there's just stuff that you do to build something,

1145
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 19: go and talk to.

1146
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: How did we get to this place that this is

1147
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: a requirement. Manafena must be afforded access to the site

1148
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: at their discretion. So they just basically say, hey, we

1149
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: want to come and have a look, and everything has

1150
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: to be stopped at their discretion. They should be allowed

1151
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: on how did that happen?

1152
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 19: Well, exactly, it's the RMA. I mean, it's just a

1153
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 19: it's a condition of the resource consentiety.

1154
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: Like the fact that this is the fact that an

1155
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: authority like Auckland would decide that this has to be

1156
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 3: in there is that we've gone quite far in our heads,

1157
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: haven't we.

1158
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 19: Well, yeah, I mean it's an unfortunate reality of the

1159
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 19: world we live in, and that's why we're changing it.

1160
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 19: This government was elected to kind of get rid of

1161
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 19: this sort of stuff, and that's what we're going to do.

1162
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: Hey, as Minister of Housing, what are you going to

1163
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: do about the maybe hunter of thousands of homes that

1164
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: have not met the healthy home standard ahead of tomorrow.

1165
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 19: Well that the law of the law. People have got

1166
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 19: to crack on and get on with it. The good

1167
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 19: news is most people have followed the law.

1168
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 3: You're looking at, because some of those those surveys that

1169
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: were in the papers yesterday said the vast majority haven't.

1170
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 19: Yeah, well a lot you know, a lot of landlords

1171
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 19: have have moved hevin on earth over the last four

1172
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 19: or five years to comply. Butlers who haven't us get

1173
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 19: on with it.

1174
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: Good ony, Hey, thank you very much, Chris, I really

1175
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Chris Bishop, Minister responsible for Roma REFILM, also

1176
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 3: Housing Minister.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen away from six the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's

1178
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: International Realty Find you are one of the kind.

1179
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: All right on the huddle of us this evening. We've

1180
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: got Trisharson of Sheerson Willis pr and Joe Spagani of

1181
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 3: Child Fund CEO. There, hello you too, Hello Josie. I'm

1182
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 3: going to go with the Minister saying get on with it.

1183
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: To the landlords as being about the extent of the three.

1184
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is not real. I mean,

1185
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: this is not really a threat.

1186
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 6: Is it.

1187
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 20: You mean with the healthy homes, Yeah, but I mean,

1188
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 20: look that the standards have since they've been in since

1189
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 20: twenty nineteen, They've had six years to get up to speed,

1190
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 20: and I think they have actually.

1191
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 6: Improved a lot of homes.

1192
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 20: Those standards that when they came in, I was just

1193
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 20: so overhearing the words, yes, warm, healthy homes. It was

1194
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 20: like the sort of mantra that was dis haunting me

1195
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 20: in my dreams. But I do think it has done

1196
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 20: something and just putting the pressure on for a lot

1197
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 20: of those thirty three percent houses and rental houses in

1198
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 20: New Zealand are still moldy. That's pretty bad, but it's

1199
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 20: much better than it was. And it's mostly that those

1200
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 20: things right, the black mold, the cold, and people in

1201
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 20: Auckland don't necessarily realize just how dire some of that

1202
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 20: rental property was. But I do worry that it has

1203
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 20: policy has driven a lot of people out of the

1204
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 20: rental market and there is less supply. So we've got

1205
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 20: to focus on the fact that, okay, new buildings will

1206
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 20: be will be consented it and we'll have all of

1207
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 20: this stuff and be warm, healthy, warm buildings whatever homes.

1208
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 20: And maybe this is a slow, painful process of kind

1209
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 20: of driving all the old wooden houses out that that

1210
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 20: are never going to comply our home. I live in

1211
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 20: a wooden house, we can't. We can't put the insulation

1212
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 20: in the ceiling. It's very drafting.

1213
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 6: I couldn't I.

1214
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 3: Live in a house it doesn't comply. Trust does your

1215
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: wooden house comply?

1216
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 4: It certainly would not. I think all great points that

1217
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: that Josie's made that this is a it's been a

1218
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: very big change, and in any sector there are always

1219
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 4: those who will get on into it. There are laggards

1220
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: and that's why you know there are there will be

1221
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: uh there should be enforcement around meeting those standards, and

1222
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 4: probably what you'll start to see there'll be a few

1223
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 4: high profile and remind yep to exactly right, to remind

1224
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: the laggards that that that it's not cool. And I

1225
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 4: think in our heads we can all think of the places,

1226
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 4: like you say, like Dunedin, some of the student rentals

1227
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 4: around places like Wellington particularly that won't come up to scratch.

1228
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: So there will need to be enforcements so that those

1229
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: who are lagging behind do get it. But also over time,

1230
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: if you're think about what's happening in the Auckland market, now,

1231
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 4: you have got an oversupply of nice, newly built sort

1232
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: of townhouses in a range of price ranges. So I

1233
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: think that landwards will also face some competitive market pressure

1234
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: because there will be tenants who can look down and go, well,

1235
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go in the house of black mold.

1236
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to go in the brand new house with

1237
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: the double glazing if I can afford it.

1238
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, we'll take a break. Come back to

1239
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: you guys shortly sixteen away from.

1240
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve

1241
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: extraordinary results with unparallel.

1242
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: Reach like you back of the Uddle, Tricious and Josep

1243
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: Bgana Trish. I want to talk about Ika, but first

1244
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: I just want to talk really quickly about the law

1245
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: and order changes that we've had. Do you think a

1246
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: coward punch that results in somebody dying should see that

1247
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: person who threw the punch lumped with a life sentence. Yes,

1248
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: I do, Why.

1249
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: Because I think it's well known, well it should be

1250
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 4: well known by now what damage this type of.

1251
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 18: Thing can do.

1252
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 4: And there is no excuse in my view for throwing

1253
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: a punch like that and then being able to get

1254
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: away when there are very extreme, if not life threatening, consequences.

1255
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: And I think we've got to get tougher on that stuff.

1256
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon, Josie?

1257
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 20: Well, the problem with this idea, I mean, no one

1258
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 20: but a psychopath would disagree that someone who's punching someone

1259
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 20: who's trying to stop them bleeding and save their.

1260
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: Lives different not my first offenders, not the first offenders.

1261
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: The coward punch, right, So when you're standing there and

1262
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: somebody punches you in the back of your head, you

1263
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: don't see it coming, You fall on the ground, don't

1264
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: brace die.

1265
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 20: Well, yes, okay, So the problem with that is, and

1266
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 20: I think you said this earlier, Heather, that if you

1267
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 20: stab someone you have an intent to murder them. If

1268
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 20: you're in a fight and you do a coward punch,

1269
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 20: you know that basically knocks someone out and kills them.

1270
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 20: You haven't intended to kill them. You've had a fight.

1271
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 20: So whether that's the same as someone actually knocking on

1272
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 20: the door and shooting someone or stabbing them with a knife.

1273
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 20: I'm not sure, but you know, I do think those

1274
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 20: are different than the intent matters.

1275
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 3: My argument, actually, Josie, was that it's exactly the same thing,

1276
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: because if you people who stab each other don't actually

1277
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: always intend to kill, but it results in death, and

1278
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: we treat it right, We treat it like, well, well,

1279
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: you mean you kill them, so there you go, you know,

1280
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: And I wonder if the same is true of the

1281
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: coward punch. I mean you can no one can argue

1282
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: nowadays that we don't know the effect of or the

1283
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: most the worst case scenario. If you punch somebody in

1284
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 3: the back of the head, yeah, do it.

1285
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 6: That's right.

1286
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 20: But I do think you have to take circumstances into account.

1287
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 20: So some you know, vicious idiot who whether is using

1288
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 20: a knife, a baseball bat or his fist, is setting

1289
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 20: out to really, you know, hurt or kill someone. And

1290
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 20: then there's someone who's drunk in a barroom barel and

1291
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 20: someone you know punches someone and they hit their head

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Speaker 20: and they're dead. I think that's where, you know, I

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Speaker 20: worry when politicians start taking discretion away from judges to

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Speaker 20: such an extent that the common sense thing where you

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Speaker 20: look at a circumstance and you go, hold on a minute,

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Speaker 20: this person has to take the consequences. But they're not

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Speaker 20: the same as the vicious, violent thug that's set out

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Speaker 20: to kill someone with whatever, wapping fist, all knife.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, now, tris, can you explain what I want

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Speaker 3: to hear? Is an argument for why we need to

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Speaker 3: have these things in that ikea consent that allow manaphen

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Speaker 3: with so much.

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Speaker 21: Access can look, if you're looking to me to mount

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Speaker 21: that argument, you have come to the what I what

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Speaker 21: I think is fantastic here. I am sorry for I

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Speaker 21: care that that had to go through this, but I

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Speaker 21: think these are the types of examples that are critical

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Speaker 21: for councils and particularly the government to keep hearing right

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Speaker 21: now because if we are going out and advertising to

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Speaker 21: the world, which we absolutely need to, and the government

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Speaker 21: is doing that we want big companies and foreign direct

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Speaker 21: investment in New Zealand. This is the kind of crap

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Speaker 21: that has to be sorted out because there is nothing

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Speaker 21: that makes those the big money guys you know, put

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Speaker 21: across beside you you one faster than going. We have

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Speaker 21: no certainty if we turn up with a bag of

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Speaker 21: money and want to make a big investment here, but

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Speaker 21: we have no certainty over how long it's going to

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Speaker 21: take for us to get through what should be a

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Speaker 21: relatively simple process.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, Josie, you can either have a crack at

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Speaker 3: that argument for why Manafena will need that kind of access,

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Speaker 3: or you can mount the argument for why Auckland Council

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Speaker 3: has completely lost its mind to give this kind of access.

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Speaker 20: Oh, I'm going to do the latter, Heather, obviously, because

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Speaker 20: I think the culture we're trying to change here is

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Speaker 20: not to say, oh, you know, don't do a katakia,

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Speaker 20: don't do a pull fry. The culture we're trying to

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Speaker 20: change here is the consultation culture. It's a virus in

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Speaker 20: the RMA, and it's a virus in the way that

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Speaker 20: we do development, where we think you're doing the right

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Speaker 20: thing if you consult for god knows how long. I mean,

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Speaker 20: I live on Coveredy Road. We've just spent six years

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Speaker 20: consulting on the name of the road. So the problem

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Speaker 20: we've got here is this sort of consultation class, right,

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Speaker 20: and I think it's also the everything Bagel approach to development,

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Speaker 20: where you go right in the lab form of government housing.

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Speaker 20: And if you're going to build houses, well, you've got

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Speaker 20: to have unionized labor, you've got to use local suppliers,

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Speaker 20: you've got to have gender diversity, and you can make

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Speaker 20: a case for all of those things, but you have

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Speaker 20: to prioritize. And in this case, the problem New Zealand

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Speaker 20: has is lack of competition in supermarkets in retail and

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Speaker 20: the idea that IQ we would delay another player coming

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Speaker 20: into the market is nuts. So the priority here is competition.

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Speaker 20: So then you have to go right not in everything, Bagel.

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Speaker 20: We are going to sacrifice some things. We're going to

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Speaker 20: shorten the consultation and actually, you know, the consultation culture

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Speaker 20: is the biggest problem that we've got.

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Speaker 3: And after six years, what's the name of the road

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Speaker 3: going to be?

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Speaker 20: Main road?

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Speaker 18: Main road? Main road.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you very much, appreciate it that consultation

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Speaker 3: went well. Josephgani and Trishurson Hudle This evening ate away

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Speaker 3: from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplassy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 3: Heather, I've got an eight year old Lockwood that overcomplies

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Speaker 3: to healthy home standards, but the tenants still won't open

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Speaker 3: the windows, so it's still condensates and it goes moldy.

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Speaker 3: And I'm now having to spend five thousand dollars on

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Speaker 3: DVS and HRV system to protect our investment. Oh now,

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Speaker 3: what was the word, Laura, store Slifton. Yeah, store Slifton.

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Speaker 3: You know, so the Germans have a word for airing

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Speaker 3: out your house. That's how much she loves airing out

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Speaker 3: her house. But she says the DVS is the way

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Speaker 3: to go because it basically forces the error around the house.

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Speaker 3: So even like stupid, can't make your house go moldy

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Speaker 3: if you've got the DVS. So there you go. And

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Speaker 3: that's from the I'll tell you what that's from the

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Speaker 3: airing the house out German. I am a call to German,

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Speaker 3: so I think this might be. And my mother, my mother,

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Speaker 3: who's not the German side, my mother admired my German

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Speaker 3: grandmother a great deal, and I think as a result

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Speaker 3: of that, she emulated her. So I'm thinking that's how

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Speaker 3: I got to the situation where every day, even in

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Speaker 3: the middle of winter, all the doors and windows are

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Speaker 3: open and we're airing the house. And it's a marital issue.

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Speaker 3: The husband. The husband does not appreciate this, but I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to keep everybody alive in the house by putting

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Speaker 3: clean air in anyway, I highly recommend this. If you

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Speaker 3: find that you've got a moldy house, open the windows.

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Speaker 3: You are welcome. So we solved the gender pay gap

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Speaker 3: at the board level. By the looks of things for

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Speaker 3: the first time ever, ladies ladies who run the world.

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Speaker 3: Girls women in the private sector board roles earning more

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Speaker 3: than the blokes. Now. This is according to Strategic Pay,

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Speaker 3: who've just released their latest director's fee survey. Female non

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Speaker 3: executive chairs three point seven percent more than their male counterpouts,

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Speaker 3: female non executive directors seventeen point two percent more than

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Speaker 3: their male counterpouts. So there you go, no problem at all.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have a chat to somebody about that

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Speaker 3: at half past six. Just go a quick shout out

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Speaker 3: for Rod Stewart. He just did the set at Glastonbury

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Speaker 3: this weekend. Apparently it was a banger. He came on

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Speaker 3: to bagpipes, he did Young Turks, he did Maggie May,

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Speaker 3: he did sailing, he did Tonight's the Nights First Cutters,

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Speaker 3: the deepest. Do you think I'm Sexy, Love Train, Baby

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Speaker 3: Jane Forever Young, don't want to talk about it. I

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Speaker 3: know by now you're like, is he still going? Yes

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Speaker 3: he is. Then mccucknall the Ginger comes on. They do

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Speaker 3: if you don't know me by now? Then Ronnie Wood

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Speaker 3: comes on, they do stay with me. Then Lulu comes on.

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Speaker 3: They do hot Legs. He finished with sailing. He had

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Speaker 3: three outfit changes. He was sweating like mad. He did

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Speaker 3: ninety minutes. The BBC said it was charming, it was silly,

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Speaker 3: it was immensely enjoyable. Rod Stewart is eighty years old

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Speaker 3: and still absolutely ripping it up on stage. So you're

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Speaker 3: only as old as you feel. People. Let's get going.

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Speaker 13: News is next, Yoh, what's up?

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Speaker 2: What's down? What with the major cause? And how will

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Speaker 2: it affect the economy?

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Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business Hour with hither

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Speaker 1: duplicy Ellen and mas insurance and investments, grow your wealth,

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Speaker 1: protect your future, US talk said.

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Speaker 3: Be evening coming up in the next hour. Canada has

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Speaker 3: just done what we've done. They've dropped the digital services

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Speaker 3: taxi chatter Shane Soley about that. Shortly, We're going to

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Speaker 3: find out why women ball directors are now being paid

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Speaker 3: a lot more, quite a lot more than men. So

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Speaker 3: after half past and then Gavin Gray is out of

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Speaker 3: the UK. For us, it's coming up eight past six

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Speaker 3: and with us right now as Nikola willis the Finance minister,

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Speaker 3: Heinikeler Hi, Heather, what are we going to do about

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Speaker 3: all of the landlords who are not meeting the Healthy

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Speaker 3: Homes standards by tomorrow?

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Speaker 18: Well, they're expected to be meeting the standards and if

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Speaker 18: they're not, their tenants have the ability to make a

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Speaker 18: complaint about that and can expect them to meet those standards.

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Speaker 18: They've had years to get around to it, Heather, And

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Speaker 18: in fact, from twenty twenty two they've already been required

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Speaker 18: to comply with the standards whenever they have a new

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Speaker 18: or renewed tenancy. So the change now is simply that

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Speaker 18: all homes, even where tenancies haven't changed, are now required

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Speaker 18: to comply. And this has had, as I say, many

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Speaker 18: years of leading.

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Speaker 3: So we got compliances got.

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Speaker 18: Landholds already so that there can be both investigations by

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Speaker 18: the tenancy tribunal and individual tenants can ask for inspections

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Speaker 18: should they wish to.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and we do have people going around do we

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Speaker 3: just checking randomly.

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Speaker 18: Look, I'm not sure that that is the case. I

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01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 18: think that this is more a case of tenants are

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,839
Speaker 18: informed about their rights and if they think their landlord

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Speaker 18: isn't meeting the standards, they can take action.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how many houses you because what by my calculations

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Speaker 3: at a conservative levels, about one hundred and eighty thousand

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Speaker 3: houses that don't meet the standards. You reckon, that's about right.

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Speaker 18: Well, I don't know what the answer to that is,

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Speaker 18: because actually all landlords are expected that they should be

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Speaker 18: meeting the standards now, and tenants have a right to

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Speaker 18: expect that if they're renting rental property and New Zealand

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Speaker 18: those standards are being met.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just reckon that a lot of them are

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Speaker 3: going to try it on, don't you think.

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Speaker 18: Well, the attendants should feel empowered that those are the

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Speaker 18: rules and they have a right to have them enforced.

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Speaker 3: Now, aproposial letters that you sent to the supermarkets last week,

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Speaker 3: how many supermarkets do you, reckon don't have those electronic

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Speaker 3: price tags.

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Speaker 18: Well, that's why I've written the letters to find out

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Speaker 18: actually what is the state of the systems across the country.

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Speaker 18: Of course, part of what prompted me doing it was

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Speaker 18: that a couple of big peckinslaves in Auckland plead guilty

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Speaker 18: to charges of misleading pricing in response to a Commerce

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Speaker 18: Commission prosecution. There are other persecutions progressing. There are investigations underway.

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Speaker 18: My concern is a simple one. It shouldn't be that

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Speaker 18: there has to be a complaint and a prosecution for

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Speaker 18: the stuff to be got right. And secondly, if one

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Speaker 18: mistake is made for one customer, I think that the

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Speaker 18: correction should then occur immediately for all customers, not just

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Speaker 18: the one who was smart enough to see the discrepancy

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Speaker 18: on the receipt and make the complaint. So that's what

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Speaker 18: me to that system. How would you possibly if you, well,

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Speaker 18: if you've got a modern electronic system, if I come

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Speaker 18: and say, hey, look the pizza was meant to be

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Speaker 18: seven dollars and actually you charge me nine, they should

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Speaker 18: instantly be able to use an electron system to correct

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Speaker 18: that across all tills in the supermarket, so no one

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Speaker 18: else is impacted.

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Speaker 3: You don't mean reasonable. If you and I both bought

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Speaker 3: a punnet of tomatoes, let's say, and you got overcharge,

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Speaker 3: pointed it out, and I'd been over charged and not

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Speaker 3: realized they need to track me down and then refund me.

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Speaker 3: You're not meaning that what No, But what.

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Speaker 18: You could do is have a really clear refund policy

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Speaker 18: that says upfront everywhere for every customer to know if

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Speaker 18: you are charged more than we said, not only will

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Speaker 18: we refund you the money, but you can keep the product.

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Speaker 18: That's the standard that we hold ourselves to. I think

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Speaker 18: that would be reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Do they not all have a clear refund policy or

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Speaker 3: is it that they don't have that refund policy?

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Speaker 18: Well, this is why we bring sunlight to these things either.

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Speaker 18: Because with Sunlight, I'm advised that the major supermarkets are

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Speaker 18: now intending to bring out these refund policies and make

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Speaker 18: them clearer to.

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Speaker 3: Their can were they already doing that.

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Speaker 18: In some cases but an other No, they were not.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting for your big I mean, like, I appreciate

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Speaker 3: that you're doing this stuff and you know whatever, but

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Speaker 3: this is not the big supermarket action. That's what I'm

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Speaker 3: waiting for. When's that coming?

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Speaker 18: Well, I will have more to say about that in

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Speaker 18: the future. As you appreciate, it is not simple to

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Speaker 18: get someone to open up additional supermarkets in New Zealand

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Speaker 18: from a computeritor, that's my ultimate destination. But I'm very

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Speaker 18: realistic that on the way through, while we are looking

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Speaker 18: at the various things we can do and make it

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Speaker 18: easier for people to expand in New Zealand, on the

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Speaker 18: way through, people have to put up with the existing structure.

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Speaker 18: Are you so I will deal with destroying attention to.

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Speaker 3: Well you do structural stuff by the end of this year.

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Speaker 18: Well, as I've said, the first thing is making sure

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Speaker 18: that if there are legal or regulatory barriers that are

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Speaker 18: making it difficult for a grocery sector that would challenge

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Speaker 18: the existing incumbents to expand or to set up, I'm

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Speaker 18: very willing to deal with those barriers and I have

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Speaker 18: had detailed feed by the end of the number of submitters. Yes,

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Speaker 18: there will be changes, Okay, by the end of this year,

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Speaker 18: and by the end of this year you will be

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Speaker 18: hearing more from me on what our next steps are

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Speaker 18: tore removing.

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Speaker 3: Because the reason I'm asking you that is because we

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Speaker 3: talk about supermarkets a lot, and I'm not getting any

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Speaker 3: satisfaction here. Right There's a lot of talk and there's

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Speaker 3: not a lot of actual action that's happening. You can

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Speaker 3: appreciate that.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think that the supermarkets themselves have obligations to

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Speaker 18: change things in real time too. And you know Mike

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Speaker 18: Costking has taken issue with me pointing out that butter

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Speaker 18: is half the price at Costco. Well, my point there

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Speaker 18: is this Costco. Yes, they're making a decision to do

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Speaker 18: some lost leading potentially to get people in the door.

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Speaker 18: But actually any supermarket at any time could make that

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Speaker 18: choice to make some everyday staples a bit cheaper for

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Speaker 18: New Zealanders. And I think that they have that choice

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Speaker 18: this week.

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Speaker 3: But the way they probably do to be fair, I mean,

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Speaker 3: they just choose to lost lead on the spaghetti when

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: you want them to lost lead on the butter.

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Speaker 18: Well, no, it's not so much that I want them

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Speaker 18: to lost lead on a particular product. It's that the

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Speaker 18: evidence internationally is that we still have some of the

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Speaker 18: most expensive groceries in the world. And if you were

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Speaker 18: to ask most New Zealand shoppers, have you noticed a

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Speaker 18: big fallen prices in any of the products that you

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Speaker 18: regularly need to go for? I don't think you find

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Speaker 18: many people who so they have. And so my point

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Speaker 18: is the supermarkets have a choice every day about the

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Speaker 18: way that they price and offer groceries to New Zealanders,

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Speaker 18: and I'm not going to be ashamed about continuing to

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Speaker 18: ask them to put their best foot forward.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, have you got any changes to announce on

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Speaker 3: the family boost?

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Speaker 18: Yes, I do. Cabinet made decisions on that today. We

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01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 18: will be making changes to the settings that will allow

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Speaker 18: people from one October when they make their claims to

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Speaker 18: claim a bit more and that will apply for fees

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Speaker 18: incurred from one July tomorrow, and the changes are twofold.

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Speaker 18: The first is to increase the amount of rebate, which

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Speaker 18: will have the effect that people on lower middle incomes

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Speaker 18: with lower rates of fees will be able to get

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Speaker 18: a bigger rebate. And the second will be to reduce

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Speaker 18: what's known as the abatement rate. Essentially, at the moment,

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Speaker 18: families earning more than one hundred and forty thousand have

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Speaker 18: a dramatic drop off and how much they're able to claim,

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Speaker 18: and we're going to adjust that a bit so they

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01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 18: can claim a bit more. But I'll be making a

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Speaker 18: detailed announcement about it imminently.

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Speaker 3: How eminently, Oh well, I'm not.

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Speaker 18: Going to tell you precise timing. We will have something

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 18: to say in more detail, but I want everyone listening

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Speaker 18: to know that if you've got children in early childhood education,

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Speaker 18: chances are if you're already eligible for family books, the

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Speaker 18: amount of your rebate could be increasing. And if you

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01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 18: are just on the cusp of eligibility, you may now

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Speaker 18: be eligible. So from one tone, keep those receipts.

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Speaker 3: How many people do you think will get the full amount?

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 18: Well, I ida, now as you can imagine a lot

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 18: more cautious about those estimates. And they point out that

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Speaker 18: the best that they can do is really guess because

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Speaker 18: it depends on whose plans.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, it's only two hundred and fifty people

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Speaker 3: a which is pitiful.

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Speaker 18: Well, as I say, we're going to increase the amount

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Speaker 18: of rebate that people are eligible for, So that means

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Speaker 18: that the overall number of people who can get that

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01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 18: maximum seventy five dollars will increase.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifty one. Will it be?

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Speaker 18: It will be, it will be more, it will be more.

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01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 18: Here that are the changes that we've made. We've been

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 18: advised will result in thousands more people getting family boost

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Speaker 18: payments and thousands of people getting hundreds of dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's coming at yeahs payments. What's the price per square

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Speaker 3: meter of the wall carpet?

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Speaker 18: Oh my gosh, I knew you'd ask. And do you

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Speaker 18: know my team said, should we try and wheedle it

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01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 18: out of coying or so you can tell here that

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 18: I said no. This is now a point of principle

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 18: when Crown entities sign commercial contracts and they do not

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01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 18: disclose those facts to ministers. Ministers don't think behind the bike.

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 18: You can say, please, can you tell me so I

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 18: can tell you that.

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 3: So old mate who was just saying we need all

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01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 3: the sunlight is now on a point of principle not

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01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 3: wanting any sunlight on this.

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Speaker 18: Well, it's just that it's not appropriate for me to

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01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 18: be going into the ins and outs of commercially sensitive contracts.

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01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 18: But you are right to put sunlight on this. Which

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 18: is they have confirmed for me that it is no

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01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 18: more than the price that they were otherwise going to

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 18: be paying for nylon carpets to be installed. Isn't that

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 18: a glorious windows logging this? Nicholas point better prodding this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, thank you, I appreciate it. Niicola willis Finance minister.

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Speaker 3: This will come back, just mark my words seventeen past six.

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Speaker 3: Heather read Nicola Willison the supermarkets pack and Save email

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01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: today had a bright yellow box at the bottom stating

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Speaker 3: if we overcharge you, you keep the goods for free. Get

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01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 3: a refund must be related previously used to be overcharged,

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01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 3: and they just corrected the price to me when I

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01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: pointed out, Look, I suspect that there is a little

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01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 3: bit of hurrying up that's going on with the supermarkets

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01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 3: read this kind of thing like the refund policy, and

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01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 3: I suspect that there's a bit of a tweaking to

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01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 3: kind of match the competitor's refund policy and so on.

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Speaker 3: But this is not the structural stuff that's going to

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 3: make a huge difference, is it. So look, I'm forthwith

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Speaker 3: banning any more discussion with Nikola Willis about supermarket reform

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 3: for the rest of the year unless it's massive, because

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01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you right, she's been talking about this

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01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 3: now for months and months and months stretching back into

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 3: last year, and yet and we've been talking about structural reforms,

1638
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 3: talking about structural reforms. Talking about structural reform. Nothing's happened.

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01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 3: It's just nonsense with pricing and electronic price tags and

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 3: stuff like that. And I guarantee you between now and

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01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: the end of the year, there will be multiple supermarket conversations,

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 3: There'll be consultations, RFIs letters that are being sent, and

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 3: none of it will make actually a massive difference, because

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01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 3: what we're waiting for is what are we doing with

1645
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 3: the structural stuff which actually makes a massive difference. So

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: we're banning it. We're just not going to talk about

1647
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 3: it until it's actually worth talking about, because otherwise we're

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 3: just getting taken for full by the National Party. Six

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01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 3: twenty one, Shane solely harbor ascic management with me. Now, heys, Shane,

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: get out here there. Okay. So what's happened with the

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Speaker 3: Canadian government and the US government?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So on Friday afternoon, mister Trump said, look, it's

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Speaker 6: on social media. We're going to stop, going to terminate

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01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 6: trade discussions because the Canadians are going to put in

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Speaker 6: place a digital services tax on Monday. Well funny, then

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Speaker 6: this afternoon is on time. The Canadian government rescinded the

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01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 6: planned digital services tax on the basis they're going to

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01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 6: try and reopen trade talks. In fact, they've actually come

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01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 6: out said, look, we want to have a trade deal

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Speaker 6: with US by the twenty fifth of July. And of

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01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 6: course this clock's ticking either for the July at night

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Speaker 6: tariff negotiations, So there's a bit of a deadline out there.

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Speaker 6: We expect perhaps some other countries do some of my things, UK, France, Spain,

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Speaker 6: They've all got these types of things they want to

1665
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 6: get back onside with the White House. So capital markets,

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 6: we all think the can is going to get kicked

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01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 6: down the road, but the dealers get extended. But you

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,520
Speaker 6: know there will be some violatility around it nonetheless.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so what happened with the US share market

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Speaker 3: that it hit those highs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so we hit all time highs on Friday. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's a bit of a combination of these geopolitical rests

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01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 6: falling some more positive trade tarwer deal rhetoric, particularly between

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01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 6: US and China and Europe. There's a bit of a

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Speaker 6: setup going on there. And also the US fit a

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Speaker 6: reserve rate cut hope, So a bit of a combination there.

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Speaker 6: That opposite, we had some weaker US data out on Friday.

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Speaker 6: Growth indicators down and inflation indicator has been quite stubborn,

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Speaker 6: so there's been a few offsets, but net net positive outcome.

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Speaker 3: How's our economy looking at the moment?

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Speaker 6: Interesting day to day we had the A Business Confidence

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Speaker 6: in the indicator out for June that was actually showed

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Speaker 6: a really strong bounce from very low levels. But against that,

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Speaker 6: we've had employment data which is this actual job growth

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Speaker 6: is pretty sluggish, which won't be a surprise for some

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Speaker 6: people out there. It's sort of drop into the A

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01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 6: Z business confidence number. It actually went to forty six

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01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 6: point three. That means the economy is still below an

1689
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 6: expansion level. But the really important thing here is a

1690
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 6: big bounce and own activity. This is business are saying

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Speaker 6: we think we're going to get better, out to forty

1692
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Speaker 6: point nine from last month month thirty four point eight.

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Speaker 6: And the really important thing here the government might be

1694
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Speaker 6: keen to see that there's been a big lift in

1695
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Speaker 6: investment intensions up from nine points to nine point nine.

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Speaker 6: The accept the leading the way. Unfortunately, as I say,

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Speaker 6: these job growth numbers for May pretty sluggish, only up

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Speaker 6: point one of a percent month or month, which means

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Speaker 6: we're actually down one point five percent for the year

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Speaker 6: to two point three five million, So pretty choppy out

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01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 6: the header as we know, but the indicators, there's a

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01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 6: bit of sunshine we are with potentially on the custom

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01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 6: of the economic expansion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so happy to hear at Shane. Thank you

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01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 3: very much, appreciate it, Shane, Sally Harbor Asset Management. Heather,

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Speaker 3: give it a rest on the carpet price. You're never

1707
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Speaker 3: going to get it, no, Ken, I know when you're beaten.

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Speaker 3: Apple Studios is responsible for making f one. It may,

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 3: in fact, this is the movie that's in the cinemas

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: at the moment. It may, in fact be Apple Studio's

1717
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: most successful production yet if you go by its box

1718
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 3: office results. Five min one is a team sport. It

1719
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 3: always Why listen, let's get this straight. We are use

1720
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 3: our jobs. If you can't run up America, no pressure.

1721
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 3: You can see why it's exciting. It's made by the

1722
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 3: same guys who made Top Gun Maverick and has got

1723
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: Brad Pitt in the starring role. It has grossed one

1724
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: hundred and forty four US dollars on its opening weekend.

1725
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: It's still got a way to go if it's going

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01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 3: to earn back its budget budget was two hundred million dollars. Interestingly,

1727
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 3: if one made forty million dollars by selling brand sponsorships

1728
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 3: within the movie as in like product placement. For example,

1729
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: Mercedes had its branding all over Brad Pits car and

1730
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 3: racing suit. So if you're looking for something to go see,

1731
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 3: just by the sheer number of people going to that

1732
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: one might be worth it. Look, if you've got a minute,

1733
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 3: you've got a chance, go and have a look at

1734
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: the video which is on media at the moment of

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01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 3: the kid's shoulder charging the reef in Tartanaki. Because we've

1736
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: been speaking about what's been going on with refs and

1737
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: local rugby games and stuff, this is quite something to see.

1738
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 3: It's blurred, so it does it obscures to some extent

1739
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: what happens because they're trying to protect the identity of

1740
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 3: the kid CE seventeen. But the kid lines the reef

1741
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 3: up right. The reef's looking in this direction. Kids behind

1742
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 3: him lines him up, shoulder charges him like really hard

1743
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 3: to the extent, and this kid is taller than the

1744
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 3: reef by at least ahead. Reef falls over, kid walks away,

1745
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 3: gives the crowd a little cheeky shucker. I feel like

1746
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm a cool day. Got a thirty six month match

1747
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,440
Speaker 3: band rather thirty six match band for that. That basically

1748
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 3: means he almosts out on three years worth of premiere

1749
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: Premier matches. Watch that video and tell me he doesn't

1750
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 3: deserve it. Now, I'd be surprised if that punishment holds,

1751
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 3: because you know we always goes oft in the end.

1752
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 3: But go look at it and tell me he doesn't

1753
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 3: deserve it. Headlines next.

1754
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

1755
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with header dupic Allen and who Theirs

1756
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, protect your future news

1757
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: talks that'd be.

1758
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 13: Till they're feeling down.

1759
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: Just sk you have that would Ray is going to

1760
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 3: be us out of the UK in ten minutes time.

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01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 3: Happy to say Ali and Anna have got their halipad

1762
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,520
Speaker 3: out at Herne Bay. This is Ali Williams and Anamobra.

1763
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: It's been a long long battle to be able to

1764
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 3: get permission to land the chopper on the lawn, but

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01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: finally they have with the consenting authority. I think it

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: was Allland Council said the noise from a chopper is

1767
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 3: not unreasonable, but there are some conditions. They're only allowed

1768
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 3: two flights per day and they're only allowed ten flights.

1769
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: It's per month. Now you do the maths on that.

1770
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: Your two flights per day is basically you do that

1771
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 3: once a week, and that's it, right. Ten flights a

1772
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: month is only basically two flights a week, and then

1773
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 3: maybe you've got a couple spare for an emergency. So

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01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 3: if they do, it's just all it's gonna work out

1775
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 3: is two flights a week. I don't think that that

1776
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: is unreasonable, and probably I would imagine a lot less

1777
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 3: than they would have liked. So they're gonna have to

1778
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 3: ration that out. I mean, because do you think it's

1779
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 3: like is it if they go to the Corimandle. If

1780
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: they fly to the Corimandle and the chopper, I don't

1781
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 3: know if they've got somewhere where they can store the

1782
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 3: chopper there. They may have to send the chopper back

1783
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 3: to the house to land on the front lawn. So

1784
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: if they take the chopper to the cormandle and then

1785
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 3: send it back, that's your two flights. So now you've

1786
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 3: got to stand the cormandle for a week, don't you,

1787
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 3: because then you've got to then next week you can

1788
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: use it again so it can come and get you.

1789
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean, this is gonna be hard. There's a lot

1790
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: of mental load and planning this out. Twenty two away

1791
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: from seven, we need to talk about the gender pay gap.

1792
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: And no not in the way that you think we're

1793
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 3: about to talk about the gender pay gap. In a

1794
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 3: sup to us, the latest survey of New Zealand company

1795
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 3: directors shows that female directors are in fact earning more

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01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: than their male counterparts. Kathy Hendry is Strategic pays Managing Director.

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Speaker 3: They've done the survey and is with us. Now, Hey, Kathy, hi,

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01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 3: there were you surprised by this?

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01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 4: Ah?

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01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were surprised earning more?

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01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 22: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean it was off. It does

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01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 22: off a backdrop of sort of quite an underrepresentation, so

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01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 22: you know, but it's good to see in the private

1804
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 22: sector at least that you know they are earning a

1805
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 22: bit more.

1806
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of surprised that at least one

1807
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 3: of the categories, female non executive directors rather than chairs

1808
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 3: obviously earned seventeen percent more in their fees. How on

1809
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 3: is what's going on?

1810
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 6: Right?

1811
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 22: Well, so when we actually looked at it, it's to

1812
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 22: do with where the which sort of boards the woman

1813
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 22: are sitting on. So what we're seeing, it's it's quite

1814
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 22: a small sample around just sort of over three one

1815
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 22: hundred or three hundred and ninety two directorships. And what

1816
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 22: we're seeing is that while the women aren't making up

1817
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 22: much of a much of the sample, they're sitting on

1818
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 22: the large more likely to be sitting on a large

1819
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 22: listed orcs and they pay a lot more. And so

1820
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 22: that's actually what's driving those gaps that we're seeing.

1821
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, is this actually what we want? Do we

1822
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 3: actually want? Do we want women to be paid significantly

1823
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 3: more than men or do we actually want it to

1824
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 3: end up kind of roughly the same?

1825
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 22: Well, they're going to be game, Yeah, we do.

1826
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 5: We want them.

1827
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 22: We want fear paid. Don't we want to see male

1828
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 22: and females being paid fairly for the work they're doing.

1829
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 22: And so I think in this instance, so what we're

1830
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 22: seeing is when they're sitting on the board with their

1831
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 22: male counterparts are getting paid the same. But it's more

1832
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 22: when you look across the whole farm pool of directors

1833
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 22: and where the women are sitting compared to the whole

1834
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 22: sampoole of directors across board businesses, that's what we're seeing

1835
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 22: that camp.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, but yeah, so I mean this just proves that,

1837
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: doesn't this show up the fact that we are really

1838
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 3: not comparing apples with apples in whether we're whether we're

1839
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 3: comparing it in order to show that women are being

1840
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 3: paid more or comparing it to show that women are

1841
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,919
Speaker 3: being paid less. Stats Telfords, don't they?

1842
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 12: Oh?

1843
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 22: I know, I mean I don't think so. You know,

1844
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 22: when we actually look at and when you look at

1845
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 22: pay gaps across we've got a really large database and

1846
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 22: when we look we can see you know, similar size roles,

1847
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 22: and we can see gaps between male and female pay

1848
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 22: there as well. So when you are looking apples for apples, yes,

1849
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 22: the big headlines in this instance, we're looking across a

1850
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 22: whole sample. But you know, and so that that's going

1851
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 22: to be giving us more dramatic gaps, which is, you know,

1852
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 22: which is newsworthy. But you know, when you actually start

1853
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 22: breaking it down and looking at the samples, you know

1854
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 22: you're still seeing time and time again that women are

1855
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,520
Speaker 22: getting paid less than their male counterparts.

1856
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: But aren't these women on these listed companies being paid

1857
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 3: the same as their male counterparts on the listed companies?

1858
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 3: Yes they are, Yes, are being paid the same.

1859
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 22: So the woman that so, I suppose the first question

1860
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 22: is why we only see such a really small proportion

1861
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 22: of women getting into these larger listed orcs. Why you know,

1862
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 22: why are we only seeing sort of one or two

1863
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 22: represented on large listed boards versus their male counterparts when

1864
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 22: we've got you know, equal representation of women and men

1865
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 22: and and you know being born and entering into the workforce,

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01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 22: and also women being are actually in New Zealand are

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01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 22: actually often more more likely to be better educated.

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Speaker 3: Than what do you think it is?

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Speaker 22: I think I think the issue is is that we're

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01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 22: just not seeing the same representation at senior levels either,

1871
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 22: and so it's what it's flowing through.

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01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: It's still the case, Kathy, Or is it changing that's changing?

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01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 22: It is changing, Yeah, it's brilliant to say. I mean,

1874
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 22: even in the director's sample back in twenty fourteen, you know,

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01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 22: women only made up fourteen percent of chairs in the sample,

1876
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 22: and now they're up at twenty eight.

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01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 3: Well, can I answer that question for you?

1878
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 23: Then?

1879
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 3: Maybe is it possible that the reason that we have

1880
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: such such small representation of women on these these very

1881
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 3: very in these very very senior levels on boards is

1882
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: because we haven't for a long time seen women represented

1883
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 3: at the executive levels of businesses, right, and so you

1884
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 3: have to give women some years to get some experience

1885
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 3: there in order to then feed through to the board level.

1886
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 3: So it will happen. You just need to give it

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01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 3: a bit of ten.

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01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 17: It will happen.

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01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 22: Corrects correct, Yeah, absolutely, And I mean the positives here

1890
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 22: is that you're seeing when they are getting on the boards,

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01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 22: they are getting into these larger listed orcs too, which

1892
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 22: is great.

1893
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 3: Kathy, Thank you, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much,

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01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 3: Kathy Henry, Managing director at Strategic Pay. There we go,

1895
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 3: ladies are taken over.

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Speaker 2: Duplicy, Ellen, I mean, I am, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Slightly tag and cheap, But what I mean is we

1898
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 3: don't need to stress it. I just think we overstress

1899
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 3: about this. Time is going to fix time. It heals everything,

1900
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

1901
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 23: Now?

1902
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 3: Netflix and Apple have thrown their toys out of the

1903
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 3: cot over so well, I mean that I'm probably overstating it.

1904
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 3: They're just they've the pushing back against an idea that

1905
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: the government's had. So the government's had an idea that

1906
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 3: they should be forced these streaming services to have a

1907
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 3: certain proportion of their programming be locally made, right, So

1908
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know where that said a two percent

1909
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 3: local content, five percent local content whatever, They're not into it.

1910
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 3: Netflix has said back to the government, has said, look,

1911
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 3: there's no barrier for kiwis to go out there and

1912
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 3: enjoy as much New Zealand content as they want. They

1913
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 3: just need to go out and find it. There is

1914
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,799
Speaker 3: no data that indicates New Zealanders are demanding greater access

1915
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 3: to local content, let alone that they expect that from

1916
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 3: streaming television companies from which they would need to pay

1917
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 3: to access it, the company says, And Apple's had its

1918
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 3: own views on it as well. Can I just point

1919
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 3: out though, and this always surprises me, Sky, which is

1920
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,759
Speaker 3: the owner of Neon, has a lot of TV content,

1921
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 3: more than fifty home grown titles, including local productions, which

1922
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 3: were commissioned by Sky. And I don't know why I

1923
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 3: didn't realize that for years and years and years I

1924
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 3: was I was chatting to a guy from Sky. He

1925
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 3: was like, we commissioned local content, and I could not

1926
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: compute because I had just thought that it was TVNZ

1927
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,839
Speaker 3: and TV three who were the only guys who commissioned

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Speaker 3: does quite well for them. So if you look and

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Speaker 3: if you've got the streaming services and you're thinking I

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Speaker 3: you go go to Neon as well.

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Speaker 2: Quarter two croating the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's heather due for Celan with the business hour and

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Speaker 1: mass insurance and investments.

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Speaker 2: Grow your wealth, protect your future, use talks be.

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Speaker 3: Hey out of the UK with us. We've got Gavin Gray, Hello, Gavin.

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Speaker 3: Hi that well, it is going to get hot in

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Speaker 3: Southern Europe, isn't.

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Speaker 12: It It is?

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Speaker 10: Yes, it's already hot and it's getting hotter today. So

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Speaker 10: yesterday Southern Spain recorded forty six celsius in Barcelona one

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Speaker 10: woman died after completing a shift as a road sweeper

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Speaker 10: in very high temperatures. Hot air from North Africa has

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Speaker 10: really spread north and across the Balkans as well to

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Speaker 10: Southern Europe and the holiday destinations like Croatia leading to

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Speaker 10: these really soaring temperatures and Italy, Greece, Spain, France and

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Speaker 10: Portugala all among the countries affected. There are wildfires currently

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Speaker 10: in Greece and the weather forecast is saying it's a

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Speaker 10: very very intense period of heat for this time of year. Normally,

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Speaker 10: high temperatures like this are recorded late July early August,

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Speaker 10: so to have them mid to late June as they've

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Speaker 10: been experiencing, but particularly peaking now is pretty devastating. Here

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Speaker 10: in the UK, it was thirty one celsius in London yesterday,

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Speaker 10: thirty three predicted today and today is the opening day

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Speaker 10: of the Wimbledon Tennis Championships. That'll make it the hottest

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Speaker 10: opening day ever in history.

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Speaker 3: Now, Gevin, what do you make of this controversy around Glastonbury?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting.

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Speaker 6: This so some.

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Speaker 10: Groups were performing at Glastonbury live on television, among them

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Speaker 10: Bob Villain this is a rap punk duo and during

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Speaker 10: their set, as I said, live broadcast, the rapper Bobby

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Speaker 10: Villain led chance of free, free Palestine and death death

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Speaker 10: to the IDF that's the Israel Defense Forces. Now this

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Speaker 10: was broadcast live. Glastonbury did nothing to pull the plug

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Speaker 10: on them, and some are saying this is effectively hate speech.

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Speaker 2: The UK has.

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Speaker 10: Joined in now saying it was appalling. The music Festival

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Speaker 10: Glastonbury organizers say that they were appalled by what was

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Speaker 10: done and Prime Minister labeling it as hate speech, saying

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Speaker 10: the BBC now has questions to answer over the live

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Speaker 10: broadcast why it didn't pull the plug. This is certainly

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Speaker 10: going to rattle on for some considerable time. There are

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Speaker 10: others saying, look, you know, all they were doing was

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Speaker 10: pointing out what's going on in Gaza and Palestine, just saying,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's all terrible there. But this call for

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Speaker 10: death to Israel Defense Forces I think has crossed the line,

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Speaker 10: has taken it further, and the BBC very much in

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Speaker 10: the firing line, along with the Wrap Punk duo and

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Speaker 10: police in Somerset, which is where the county where Glastonbury

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Speaker 10: is also investigating complaints they've had about it being discriminatory language.

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Speaker 10: And deeply offensive.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now I see in the UK there is this

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Speaker 3: project right to create the building blocks of human life

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Speaker 3: from scratched. It's from scratch, I imagine this is hugely controversial.

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Speaker 10: Yes it is, and it's why it's taken so long

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Speaker 10: actually to get the go ahead. The Welcome Trust that's

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Speaker 10: the World Large Just Medical charity has given an initial

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Speaker 10: twenty two million New Zealand dollars to start this project.

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Speaker 10: It's being conducted around the world, but with pretty several

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Speaker 10: bases in and around Cambridge where there's a research team there.

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Speaker 10: What they hope is this will help improve people's lives

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Speaker 10: as they age, lead to healthier aging with less disease

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Speaker 10: as they get older, and accelerate treatments for many incurable diseases. However,

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Speaker 10: what critics say is this will lead to designer babies.

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Speaker 10: In other words, people pretty much designing the baby they

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Speaker 10: want via a DNA and also unforeseen changes in future generations. So, Heather,

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Speaker 10: basically every cell in our body contains this molecule called DNA.

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Speaker 10: It's made of four smaller blocks, and those patterns between

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Speaker 10: the four smaller blocks AGCT are repeated over and over

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Speaker 10: again in various combinations, and that is all the genetic

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Speaker 10: information we need. Now we know that much, and also

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Speaker 10: we now know that it can be read like a

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Speaker 10: barcode in our body. Bizarrely, the question is, though researchers

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Speaker 10: want to create parts of these molecules and maybe one

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Speaker 10: day all of the molecules. So they were going molecule

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Speaker 10: by molecule from scratch, and that would mean you could

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Speaker 10: effectively construct a human And this is deeply worrying for

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Speaker 10: many people who are you know, just concerned that he's

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Speaker 10: going to get in the wrong hands.

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Speaker 6: Frankly, you took me.

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Speaker 3: Back to science class AGCT Thank you very much, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: I appreciated. Gavin Gray UK corresponding here that zero has

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Speaker 3: three women in the C suite CEO cfo CTO. There

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Speaker 3: we go, future board members. Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto per Se Alan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is fascinating. Keep an eye, keep an eye

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Speaker 3: on this. Chap who is running as the Democratic candidate

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Speaker 3: for New York City for the mayor there Zoren Memdani.

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Speaker 3: He's going to I think, I mean, I think if

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Speaker 3: you've been following it already, you'll see he's proven to

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Speaker 3: be reasonably controversial because he's a little bits he's out

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Speaker 3: to the left of that particular party. He's done an

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Speaker 3: interview with MBC and was asked where the billionaires have

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Speaker 3: a right to exist, and he says, I don't think

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Speaker 3: that we should have billionaires because frankly, it is too

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Speaker 3: much money in a moment of such a quality. And

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Speaker 3: then he was asked about his proposal to tax in

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Speaker 3: his words, in his words, it's policy on his website

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Speaker 3: richer and whiter neighborhoods, and he's not ashamed of that

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Speaker 3: at all. He says, I think I'm just naming things

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Speaker 3: as they are, IEP. And aren't it going to be fascinating?

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Speaker 3: As what have you got for us?

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Speaker 23: Rip by Tony Temper and Rita Ara to play us

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Speaker 23: out tonight. Rita Ara has spoken on a podcast about

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Speaker 23: how she proposed to take away TT. So this happened

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Speaker 23: back in twenty twenty two and they got married. They

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Speaker 23: were on holiday in Palm Springs. She decorated the hotel

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Speaker 23: room while he was away like a nice fancy hotel

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Speaker 23: room that she filled it up with balloons and cake

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Speaker 23: got rings made, and then when takeaway TT showed up

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Speaker 23: on the hotel room, apparently he said, what the hell

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Speaker 23: is it Valentine's Day? And then she got down on

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Speaker 23: one knee and proposed to him and he accepted, so

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Speaker 23: that's nice. She also talks about how they met in

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Speaker 23: their first kiss and all that stuff. So if you

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Speaker 23: want to hear the rest of the to her stories

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Speaker 23: are the beginning again podcast Can't Wait.

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Speaker 3: When you said ants, balloons and cake, did you see

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Speaker 3: Laura's face?

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Speaker 19: The German?

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't you sneered Laura? Why did you sneer?

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Speaker 3: Don't you like balloons and cake? Is it cringe?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 3: I think it's nice. It's not for me I would

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Speaker 3: have had I don't know, I see because my problem is,

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Speaker 3: but all those balloons now you've got to pop them

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Speaker 3: all and I don't like the sound of popular.

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Speaker 23: Thankfully, Laura's already married, so no one will have to

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Speaker 23: propose to her. But see if there's a renewal of

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Speaker 23: vows coming up. Balloons and cake, take note, don't don't bring.

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Speaker 3: Lord and imagine like if you ever tried to tie

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Speaker 3: lots and lots of balloons, because if your fingernail on

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Speaker 3: your index fingers. Too long, you scrape the skin on

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Speaker 3: your your middle finger, you can end up with quite

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Speaker 3: a bloody finger, so probably reach a bled for them. Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Nce for just to sit by really high.

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Speaker 3: For all the wedding proposals out there, see tomorrow. Enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 3: Fine to give you on me.

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Speaker 2: Maybe come close, maybe come close.

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Speaker 14: Manifier you're talking, don't know who you're trying to flatter.

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Speaker 13: Got my mind.

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Speaker 3: They eat up, Immedifier. I'm in control for which you'll be.

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Speaker 2: In a man you don't seem to understand. I comedifier, comedifi.

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Speaker 7: I'm a medicire so I be thinking, man because it's

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Speaker 7: I'm part of my friend.

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Speaker 2: I am edified.

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Speaker 3: Are to the girl you used to see?

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Speaker 2: Her?

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Speaker 3: Days are over?

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