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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack Tame and

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Speaker 1: BE Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy News Talks at B.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Saturday Morning here on News Talks EDB. I'm

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Speaker 3: Franchesca Rudkins, filling in this week for Jack Tame. Jack

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Speaker 3: will be back with you next Saturday. I don't know

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Speaker 3: about you, but I am exhausted this. I have roaded,

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Speaker 3: I have done a couple of triathlons, I've been swimming,

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Speaker 3: of sprinted, I've been horse riding, playing golf. This week,

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Speaker 3: of course, I have been doing none of this. I

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Speaker 3: have just been sitting at home on the couch riding

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Speaker 3: the emotional roller coaster that is a sporting event like

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Speaker 3: the Olympics, and I am just loving the amazing performances

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Speaker 3: that we've seen from our kiwis and other athletes from

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Speaker 3: around the world. I hope you have been enjoying it too.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Saville will be with us shortly with his thoughts

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Speaker 3: on the week. Also on the show today, Olli and

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Speaker 3: Louis from Australian indie pop sensations Lie Cordial joined me

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Speaker 3: to talk about their third album ahead of their tour

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Speaker 3: here in October. We have some tickets to their gig

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Speaker 3: to give away later in the show. They're playing in

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Speaker 3: four different centers. You can go to any of those,

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Speaker 3: you can pick whichever one you want, So we'll be

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Speaker 3: giving those tickets away a little later in the show.

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Speaker 3: And I love a pie probably tell by taking a

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Speaker 3: look at me. The Pie Awards were this week. Nicky

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Speaker 3: Wicks is going to inspire us with a beautiful recipe

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Speaker 3: to make a blue cheese What has she got? It's

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Speaker 3: this beef beer and blue cheese pie. How good does

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Speaker 3: that sound? So that's coming up on the show as well.

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Speaker 2: News Talk, said Bee.

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Speaker 3: A headline in the news this week had me rolling

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Speaker 3: my eyes. Sometimes the arts make it hard for themselves.

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Speaker 3: The headline I'm referring to was about the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Film Commission spending over sixteen thousand dollars on two farewell

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Speaker 3: and two welcome parties for their outgoing and incoming chief executives. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: no one stopped to think how this particular headline might

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Speaker 3: come across if they had the New Zealand Film Commission

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Speaker 3: might have read the room differently. It is not a

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Speaker 3: good look to have an autonomous crown entity whose job

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Speaker 3: headlines about throwing parties and the scheme of things. This

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Speaker 3: isn't that much money, and if we weren't in the

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Speaker 3: government facing long term fiscal deficits, this may never have

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Speaker 3: made the headlines. I'm pretty sure I've been to similar

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Speaker 3: farewell in the private sector, which have cost a lot more.

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Speaker 3: I should notice well that these celebrations took place in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, before the October election, which delivered a

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Speaker 3: new government hell bent on making savings across the public sector,

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Speaker 3: as they should. But you could argue that we were

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Speaker 3: already in a cost of living crisis before the election.

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Speaker 3: A recession was expected, labor had started tightening the belt

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Speaker 3: of the potential new coalition partners. They should have anticipated

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Speaker 3: how this would look. And of course, this follows news

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Speaker 3: that the New Zealand Film Commission paid a former boss

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Speaker 3: while over half a million dollars in leave in severance

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand Film Commission garner support from the public

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Speaker 3: and the New Zealand screen industry. It's worth the bomb.

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Speaker 3: It contributes three point five billion to the economy each year.

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Speaker 3: It's an incredible industry filled with some of the hardest working,

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Speaker 3: most innovative people I have ever worked with, and it's class.

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to the arts and culture and

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Speaker 3: public perception, you'll never be able to compete for funding

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Speaker 3: against the need for a better education and health system,

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Speaker 3: more police and safer roads. These headlines also great as

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Speaker 3: many organizations have done incredible work over the last nine

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Speaker 3: months to ensure stability in this struggling industry. SPARTA have

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Speaker 3: been lobbying tirelessly to make sure New Zealand on Air

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Speaker 3: seven point five percent cut being asked of ministry funding.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's longest running soap, Shortman Street, will air US

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Speaker 3: will attend some meetings. A sensible decision, especially considering this week.

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Speaker 3: TVNZ also announced it needs to find another thirty million

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Speaker 3: to creating vibrant cities, communities, to fostering a sense of belonging, pride,

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Speaker 3: identity and connection, and can be a good source of revenue.

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Speaker 3: So please stop making it so.

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Speaker 2: Hard to sell news talk, said Bee.

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Speaker 3: So can you hear your thoughts? Was it a story

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Speaker 3: worth reporting on? And should have the film commissioned? Do

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Speaker 3: ninety two up next. Kevin Milne is also finding the

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Speaker 3: Olympics a little exhausting. It is twelve past nine.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Francesco Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jacktaim and

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Speaker 2: Said, be good to have you with us.

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Speaker 3: It's fifteen part US nine. Kicking us off this morning

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Speaker 3: is Kevin Melon.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Kevin, Good morning, Francesca.

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Speaker 4: Yes, she made some good points this morning. It actually

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Speaker 4: company or various other characters. Their lawyers used to spend

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Speaker 4: huge amounts on fairgo, you know, just parties because they

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Speaker 4: made an awful lot out of Fairgo over the and yeah,

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Speaker 4: so we're in a couple of times. I'm kind of

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Speaker 4: pleased I'm not there anymore.

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Speaker 3: We certainly Yeah. No, no free lunch is Kevin.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Hey, like you would like to see a change to

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Speaker 3: the Olympic motto.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Francesca, the Olympic motto is citious altius fortius communitor faster, higher, stronger.

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Speaker 4: May I suggest another Latin word, de fesesius. It means tired, weary, jaded,

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Speaker 4: and exhausted. And that's how I'm feeling autter just a

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Speaker 4: week of Olympics. It's the least sleep I've had in

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Speaker 4: What gets you is being lured into watching Olympic events,

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Speaker 4: both ends. I'm one of those sports fans who has

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Speaker 3: Are you like that, Francis, Yes, My kids are obsessed

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Speaker 3: about that, Keivin. They will not pre record anything and

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Speaker 3: watch it later. They're like, there's no point, You've got

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Speaker 3: to watch it while it's happening. That's the whole point

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Speaker 3: of it. That's the excitement.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like, you know, I'm not enjoying the Olympics,

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Speaker 4: What about the rowing? You know what an incredible country

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Speaker 4: New Zealand is in terms of it's rowing now possibly

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Speaker 4: the best in the world. What about the try that triathlon?

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Speaker 4: What a what an extraordinary athletics event that turned into

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Speaker 4: flying around at forty five k's an hour on foils.

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Speaker 4: It's all leaving near zombie during the day. It started

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Speaker 4: actually the first night of Olympic competition, I got sucked

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Speaker 4: into watching about in three hours of dress Arge, of

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Speaker 4: point thirty to watch the Sevens. One thing I've discovered

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Speaker 4: just because you don't get any sleep at night doesn't

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Speaker 4: I didn't sleep Sunday, and I was going to a

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Barns concert on Sunday night, and it's concerned I

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Speaker 4: a Jimmy Barns concert. That Now, his show was brilliant.

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Speaker 4: He deserved the gold medal as well for Antiscia.

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Speaker 3: You should just be grateful, Kevin, that you're not one

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Speaker 4: They are absolutely Yeah. Yeah, the coverage is just remarkable, really,

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Speaker 4: isn't it. And you can go all over. I think

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Speaker 4: if anything, the coverage is too much. I can't keep

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Speaker 3: Here's a question. Here's a question for you, Kevin. When

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Speaker 3: holding the boats. Yeah, although I wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 4: My daughter keeps looking at that and saying to me,

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Speaker 4: not had something that does that? Well, I know, but

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Speaker 4: you know that, which do you think you could actually

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Speaker 4: They've sort of got their head down under the water.

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Speaker 2: Very sensible hat ground shoulders.

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Speaker 4: That really, apart from being the person that fires the

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Speaker 3: Oh well, look we're halfway there, Kevin, So best of

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Speaker 3: luck for the next week. Do try and get a

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Speaker 3: little bit of lovely to catch up with you this morning. Ken,

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Speaker 3: to hear from you as well about how you're feeling

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Speaker 3: an Olympian. So Ken to hear from you anytime this morning.

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Speaker 3: twenty one past nine.

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Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your text. Been texts to say that

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Speaker 3: he's loving the Olympics, but he's finding these Olympics aren't

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Speaker 3: a shame. I understand how you feel about that. Ben.

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Speaker 3: Another text here, I feel like I ride every jump

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Speaker 3: Have you been impressed with the coverage.

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Speaker 3: But look, talking about athletics, how fantastic was it to

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Speaker 5: She's been training on it. It's brand new, so there

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Speaker 3: Yep, Grand thank you for answering that for me. I

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Speaker 3: in nearly fifty years, so it's definitely worth flicking on

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Speaker 3: the Olympics, right Chris Schultz is up next with our

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Speaker 3: So it has been confirmed by Britney herself that a

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Speaker 8: Morning, Franciska. Are you in the mode for a bit

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Speaker 3: I like the fact that we've got a horror horror

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Speaker 2: The letter was left with the body is one word.

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Speaker 8: This is Long Legs. This is the big horror hit

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Speaker 8: This is this year's big hat. This has been an

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Speaker 8: Nicholas Cage for a minute, because we've seen this guy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it cost ten million to make. They spent about

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Speaker 3: So this is definitely going to be the hit of

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Speaker 3: the season. Hey, but tell me a little bit about

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Speaker 3: I saw the TV Glow. We'll have a listened to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes the Pinko peek feels more real in real life.

432
00:23:17,973 --> 00:23:20,253
Speaker 10: Manage It was a TV show?

433
00:23:23,373 --> 00:23:24,573
Speaker 11: Are you sure that's all it was?

434
00:23:27,133 --> 00:23:27,253
Speaker 12: So?

435
00:23:27,333 --> 00:23:29,613
Speaker 3: I Saw the TV Glow is screening in the New

436
00:23:29,693 --> 00:23:32,293
Speaker 3: Zealand International Film Festival, which of the course runs from

437
00:23:32,533 --> 00:23:34,693
Speaker 3: has started in some parts of the country, running through

438
00:23:34,733 --> 00:23:37,053
Speaker 3: until the fourth of September. Tell me about it.

439
00:23:38,453 --> 00:23:40,733
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is part of the Film Festival which starts

440
00:23:40,773 --> 00:23:44,253
Speaker 8: this week. There's so much good stuff in the film festival.

441
00:23:44,293 --> 00:23:46,893
Speaker 8: Just pick five films at random and you'll have a

442
00:23:46,933 --> 00:23:49,733
Speaker 8: great time. This is the film, though, that I've chosen

443
00:23:49,773 --> 00:23:52,453
Speaker 8: because I've just had my eye on it for a while.

444
00:23:53,253 --> 00:23:58,413
Speaker 8: And again, this is another nineties indecert movie. It's clearly

445
00:23:58,413 --> 00:24:02,133
Speaker 8: a trend filmmakers a turning to the nineties for inspiration.

446
00:24:02,573 --> 00:24:05,293
Speaker 8: This is about a couple of kids who fall in

447
00:24:05,293 --> 00:24:07,453
Speaker 8: love with a TV show. They bond over it, they

448
00:24:07,493 --> 00:24:11,493
Speaker 8: obsess about it. It's called The Pink Opaque, and it

449
00:24:11,773 --> 00:24:15,453
Speaker 8: very much reminded me of when I used to trade

450
00:24:15,693 --> 00:24:19,093
Speaker 8: X files videotapes with my mates because I missed an episode.

451
00:24:19,093 --> 00:24:21,413
Speaker 8: It's that kind of obsession, and that's the kind of

452
00:24:21,453 --> 00:24:24,573
Speaker 8: show they're watching, this kind of weird mystery show, which

453
00:24:25,173 --> 00:24:27,933
Speaker 8: is in the movie. They do have scenes from the

454
00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:31,013
Speaker 8: show that they've created a TV show within the movie,

455
00:24:31,733 --> 00:24:34,373
Speaker 8: and then things just kind of spiral from there. I

456
00:24:34,413 --> 00:24:37,293
Speaker 8: don't want to give too much away, but this reminded

457
00:24:37,333 --> 00:24:42,133
Speaker 8: me of the great Jake Gillenahll movie Donnie Darko, that

458
00:24:42,293 --> 00:24:45,973
Speaker 8: weird kind of feeling where it's just unnerving. There's this

459
00:24:46,013 --> 00:24:49,293
Speaker 8: is kind of creeping sense of as things aren't right here,

460
00:24:49,813 --> 00:24:52,293
Speaker 8: and it's not necessarily about what happens. It's just that

461
00:24:52,413 --> 00:24:57,093
Speaker 8: kind of overwhelming sensation that this movie gives you. The

462
00:24:57,133 --> 00:24:59,413
Speaker 8: other thing I would say about this, and the reason

463
00:24:59,453 --> 00:25:02,573
Speaker 8: I had my eye on it, is the soundtrack is incredible.

464
00:25:02,613 --> 00:25:05,893
Speaker 8: It's all original music and some of the artists perform

465
00:25:06,053 --> 00:25:10,773
Speaker 8: in the Phoebe Bridges, Carolyn Polcheck, that kind of indie

466
00:25:10,853 --> 00:25:15,293
Speaker 8: rock stuff. But our nineties is this new metal singer

467
00:25:15,453 --> 00:25:18,093
Speaker 8: Limb Biscuit front man Fred Durst has a role in

468
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Speaker 8: this movie. So that's what we're talking about. That's how

469
00:25:21,773 --> 00:25:24,853
Speaker 8: indebted to the nineties this movie is. Can I to say,

470
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Speaker 8: if we're going to do this ninety thing this hard,

471
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Speaker 8: can we just bring back the big day out once

472
00:25:28,973 --> 00:25:30,293
Speaker 8: and for all and get it done.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more. Chris Hey, thank you

474
00:25:33,053 --> 00:25:36,053
Speaker 3: so much for the recommendation. So Long Legs is playing

475
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Speaker 3: in cinemas. I saw the TV glow as at the

476
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Speaker 3: New Zealand International Film Festival, and the New Zealand International

477
00:25:41,773 --> 00:25:44,213
Speaker 3: Film Festival has already returned. It started on the thirty

478
00:25:44,213 --> 00:25:47,213
Speaker 3: first of July. It's featuring over one hundred films from

479
00:25:47,213 --> 00:25:50,493
Speaker 3: over twenty four countries. We've got tickets up for grabs

480
00:25:50,773 --> 00:25:54,853
Speaker 3: to Never Look Away. It is Lucy Lawless's directorial debut

481
00:25:55,093 --> 00:25:58,293
Speaker 3: with her documentary exploring the life of Kiwi video journalist

482
00:25:58,293 --> 00:26:01,413
Speaker 3: Margaret Moth. I spoke to Lucy Lawless about this documentary

483
00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:03,213
Speaker 3: last week on the Sunday session. You can go back

484
00:26:03,213 --> 00:26:05,733
Speaker 3: and have listened to that interview. Margaret Moth was an

485
00:26:05,733 --> 00:26:08,333
Speaker 3: extraordinary way and Lucy Lawla says, had a wonderful job

486
00:26:08,373 --> 00:26:12,173
Speaker 3: of bringing her life to the big screen. Definitely worth catching,

487
00:26:12,213 --> 00:26:15,293
Speaker 3: so to be into win register now at news Talk

488
00:26:15,413 --> 00:26:18,013
Speaker 3: ZB dot co dot.

489
00:26:17,813 --> 00:26:18,373
Speaker 12: In Z.

490
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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Francesca rudgin in for Jack daim keeping

491
00:26:27,293 --> 00:26:31,693
Speaker 1: the conversation going through the weekend with Vpewer Folcy Settlements

492
00:26:31,733 --> 00:26:33,773
Speaker 1: for Essential Energy News Talks at b.

493
00:26:35,013 --> 00:26:37,453
Speaker 3: Thank you very much to whoever texts me to remind

494
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Speaker 3: me about the two guys in the shot put final

495
00:26:39,213 --> 00:26:44,333
Speaker 3: in the warning too. Yes, Jack O'Gill and Tom Walsh

496
00:26:44,493 --> 00:26:47,693
Speaker 3: are competing around five thirty five am as well. In

497
00:26:47,733 --> 00:26:50,453
Speaker 3: that final, another person takes to say the most mind

498
00:26:50,493 --> 00:26:54,453
Speaker 3: boggling speed to me is the walkers. They do sub

499
00:26:54,653 --> 00:26:57,653
Speaker 3: four minute kilometers. I couldn't run one kilometer at that

500
00:26:57,693 --> 00:27:00,813
Speaker 3: if I tried exactly what my lovely producer Libby said

501
00:27:00,813 --> 00:27:02,773
Speaker 3: the morning. This morning, she'd been watching the walking and

502
00:27:02,853 --> 00:27:07,093
Speaker 3: she was both amused and amazed at the same time.

503
00:27:07,613 --> 00:27:10,333
Speaker 3: Someone asked the question, who is that Roman commentator with

504
00:27:10,453 --> 00:27:14,093
Speaker 3: possibly a South London accent, who is just entertainment in

505
00:27:14,173 --> 00:27:17,733
Speaker 3: himself calls Emma twig Twiggy. Actually he's got nicknames for

506
00:27:17,773 --> 00:27:19,853
Speaker 3: lots of people. I don't know if somebody has caught

507
00:27:20,173 --> 00:27:22,973
Speaker 3: who they are, do flick us a text and let

508
00:27:23,053 --> 00:27:27,373
Speaker 3: us know. But you're right, they tour adding to the entertainment, right.

509
00:27:27,493 --> 00:27:30,053
Speaker 3: Our resident chef, Nicky Wicks, joins us.

510
00:27:30,053 --> 00:27:33,613
Speaker 13: Now, good morning, Yes, good morning, Francesca.

511
00:27:34,573 --> 00:27:35,373
Speaker 14: Very cold morning.

512
00:27:35,653 --> 00:27:36,933
Speaker 3: Oh is it a bit chilly out there?

513
00:27:37,013 --> 00:27:37,293
Speaker 9: Is it?

514
00:27:37,613 --> 00:27:38,093
Speaker 12: But chilli?

515
00:27:38,213 --> 00:27:38,653
Speaker 13: But chilli?

516
00:27:38,773 --> 00:27:45,733
Speaker 14: Yes, that's okay, Well exactly, And of.

517
00:27:45,653 --> 00:27:48,613
Speaker 3: Course it's been the Pie Awards this week, so I'm thrilled.

518
00:27:48,653 --> 00:27:52,333
Speaker 13: I love pies, Oh, pies are the best. And I

519
00:27:52,373 --> 00:27:55,213
Speaker 13: love that New Zealand has Pie Awards. I mean, I

520
00:27:55,253 --> 00:27:57,413
Speaker 13: know the Olympics are going on, but I was a

521
00:27:57,413 --> 00:27:59,293
Speaker 13: little more tuned into who was going to win the

522
00:27:59,293 --> 00:28:02,253
Speaker 13: gold and the silver and the Supreme Pie Awards.

523
00:28:02,653 --> 00:28:04,893
Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of New Zealanders have

524
00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:07,053
Speaker 3: shown just as much interested where they can get a

525
00:28:07,093 --> 00:28:07,773
Speaker 3: good pie from.

526
00:28:10,133 --> 00:28:13,613
Speaker 13: I'm really going to encourage listeners to do one of

527
00:28:13,693 --> 00:28:16,253
Speaker 13: two things. Or maybe boats and let's go on to

528
00:28:16,333 --> 00:28:19,093
Speaker 13: the Pie Awards website and find out where there is

529
00:28:19,133 --> 00:28:21,413
Speaker 13: a good pie in your neighborhoods, because you will find

530
00:28:21,413 --> 00:28:24,853
Speaker 13: that out, I'm sure. Or and or make this pie.

531
00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:28,773
Speaker 13: I've got a beef, beer and blue cheese pie for

532
00:28:28,853 --> 00:28:29,573
Speaker 13: us this morning.

533
00:28:29,613 --> 00:28:30,693
Speaker 11: How does that sound?

534
00:28:30,893 --> 00:28:32,373
Speaker 3: It sounds delicious.

535
00:28:32,933 --> 00:28:34,173
Speaker 11: I know it's so good.

536
00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:37,373
Speaker 13: And look it's super easy. I've cheated a little bit.

537
00:28:37,413 --> 00:28:40,013
Speaker 13: I wouldn't be able to enter this one in the

538
00:28:40,013 --> 00:28:43,813
Speaker 13: Pie Awards because I make a beautiful filling and then

539
00:28:43,853 --> 00:28:46,093
Speaker 13: I pop that in a pie dish, and then to

540
00:28:46,133 --> 00:28:50,253
Speaker 13: save any sort of soggy pastry drama, I just put

541
00:28:50,333 --> 00:28:53,493
Speaker 13: one layer of pastry on the top. So technically not

542
00:28:53,693 --> 00:28:55,533
Speaker 13: really a pie. It's more of a pot pie. But

543
00:28:55,573 --> 00:28:57,973
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what, you will not regret your decision

544
00:28:58,053 --> 00:28:58,573
Speaker 13: to make this.

545
00:28:59,453 --> 00:29:00,173
Speaker 14: Here's what I do.

546
00:29:00,973 --> 00:29:03,933
Speaker 13: I take about this serves about four or maybe six,

547
00:29:04,013 --> 00:29:07,533
Speaker 13: but I'd say four five hundred grand of beef chunks.

548
00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:09,013
Speaker 13: Now I use a chuck or.

549
00:29:08,973 --> 00:29:10,493
Speaker 14: A blade steak, which does.

550
00:29:10,333 --> 00:29:13,133
Speaker 13: Require some cooking down. If you want to make a

551
00:29:13,453 --> 00:29:15,653
Speaker 13: sort of make it shorten the time a little bit

552
00:29:15,693 --> 00:29:17,533
Speaker 13: the cook time, what you can do is you could

553
00:29:17,573 --> 00:29:20,453
Speaker 13: use rump steak for this would be really great as well, Francesca.

554
00:29:20,533 --> 00:29:22,893
Speaker 13: I cut that up into nice little bites of large

555
00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:26,133
Speaker 13: bite sized pieces. Sprinkle some flour. I use about two

556
00:29:26,173 --> 00:29:28,253
Speaker 13: tablespoons of flour, and it's going to sticken up our

557
00:29:28,293 --> 00:29:30,973
Speaker 13: gravy and our pie. Sort of toss the beef in that,

558
00:29:31,413 --> 00:29:34,573
Speaker 13: and then in a saucepin, heat a little bit of

559
00:29:34,653 --> 00:29:38,213
Speaker 13: oil and then take a large onion, oh sorry, a

560
00:29:38,213 --> 00:29:40,133
Speaker 13: little bit of oil and then brown that meat off.

561
00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:42,813
Speaker 13: And I do that in batches so that it doesn't stew.

562
00:29:43,773 --> 00:29:46,013
Speaker 13: If you don't have enough air circulating around the meat,

563
00:29:46,053 --> 00:29:47,653
Speaker 13: then it will just kind of stew, which is not

564
00:29:47,693 --> 00:29:49,813
Speaker 13: what we want. So do it and a couple of batches,

565
00:29:49,853 --> 00:29:52,013
Speaker 13: and then just sort of set that aside. Use that

566
00:29:52,053 --> 00:29:56,173
Speaker 13: same saucepin, saute one large onion that you've diceed. I

567
00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:58,173
Speaker 13: use two carrots because I love a bit of carrot

568
00:29:58,173 --> 00:30:00,653
Speaker 13: and a beef pie. And I also use three cloves

569
00:30:00,653 --> 00:30:03,693
Speaker 13: of garlic crushed, so saute all of that you can

570
00:30:03,733 --> 00:30:06,053
Speaker 13: scrape off all the yummy bits that get stuck on

571
00:30:06,093 --> 00:30:09,133
Speaker 13: the box them. Pour over three hundred and thirty meals,

572
00:30:09,133 --> 00:30:12,493
Speaker 13: which is basically a can of beer. I'd set an

573
00:30:12,493 --> 00:30:14,733
Speaker 13: ale or a lager, but something that's not too sweet.

574
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,133
Speaker 13: I'd go for a darker ale, but probably not a

575
00:30:17,213 --> 00:30:20,213
Speaker 13: stout might be a little bit too strong, and so

576
00:30:20,293 --> 00:30:22,853
Speaker 13: pour that beer over it and just let that bubble

577
00:30:22,933 --> 00:30:25,653
Speaker 13: up a little bit. Add the meat back, and then

578
00:30:25,693 --> 00:30:29,733
Speaker 13: I take two tablespoons of tomato pure. Just a little

579
00:30:29,733 --> 00:30:32,133
Speaker 13: word on that. I don't love tomato pure because it's

580
00:30:32,173 --> 00:30:34,933
Speaker 13: often a little bit concentrated for me, But in this dish,

581
00:30:34,973 --> 00:30:37,253
Speaker 13: I don't want too much liquid in their Francesca, so

582
00:30:37,533 --> 00:30:40,533
Speaker 13: I don't want to add sort of just plain tomatoes.

583
00:30:39,893 --> 00:30:40,293
Speaker 12: If you like.

584
00:30:40,373 --> 00:30:43,493
Speaker 13: So tomato pure works of your treat. One bay leaf

585
00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:45,613
Speaker 13: if you've got it, and then a decent amount of

586
00:30:45,653 --> 00:30:48,493
Speaker 13: salt and lots of cracked pepper. Lower the heat and

587
00:30:48,533 --> 00:30:50,733
Speaker 13: simmer it for an hour or more with the cover on,

588
00:30:51,013 --> 00:30:54,133
Speaker 13: with the lid on, and that's really until the meat

589
00:30:54,213 --> 00:30:57,373
Speaker 13: is well tenderized. Again. You could cut that cooking time

590
00:30:57,453 --> 00:30:59,493
Speaker 13: down if you wanted to use a rump steak, but

591
00:30:59,573 --> 00:31:00,533
Speaker 13: a good chuck.

592
00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:00,973
Speaker 3: And a blade.

593
00:31:01,013 --> 00:31:02,693
Speaker 13: They have lots of flavor, but they to take a

594
00:31:02,733 --> 00:31:04,933
Speaker 13: bit of cooking. Then you need to cooll that off.

595
00:31:06,013 --> 00:31:07,533
Speaker 13: So you can do this the day before as well.

596
00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:11,493
Speaker 13: Heat the oven to two hundred degrees. Selsiers because pastry

597
00:31:11,613 --> 00:31:15,173
Speaker 13: loves are really hot. Oven grease are kind of a

598
00:31:15,213 --> 00:31:17,853
Speaker 13: pie dish or a ceramic dish, either one. This makes

599
00:31:17,853 --> 00:31:20,973
Speaker 13: about a twenty three centimet a round dish, so around

600
00:31:21,013 --> 00:31:24,173
Speaker 13: about that. If it's square, you make the adjustment. Laid

601
00:31:24,293 --> 00:31:26,693
Speaker 13: all of your beautiful cold filling into your pie dish,

602
00:31:27,293 --> 00:31:30,733
Speaker 13: and really pile it up, Francesca, because it will as

603
00:31:30,773 --> 00:31:34,093
Speaker 13: it cooks in that gravy you know, I suppose warms

604
00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:36,453
Speaker 13: up and goes a bit more liquidy, it will sort

605
00:31:36,453 --> 00:31:38,693
Speaker 13: of sink down, So make sure that you pile it up.

606
00:31:39,173 --> 00:31:41,653
Speaker 13: Doesn't matter if it's a little mini mountain of your filling.

607
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:44,493
Speaker 13: Sprinkle over some blue cheese. I've used one hundred grams

608
00:31:44,493 --> 00:31:48,173
Speaker 13: of blue cheese here. Get a nice strong one. Roll

609
00:31:48,213 --> 00:31:50,853
Speaker 13: out some pastry you can use ready rolled if you like,

610
00:31:51,693 --> 00:31:53,733
Speaker 13: I use flaky pastry for this. You could get away

611
00:31:53,733 --> 00:31:55,973
Speaker 13: with a short pastry that it'd be fine. Just make

612
00:31:56,013 --> 00:31:58,013
Speaker 13: a lid out of that obviously big enough that's going

613
00:31:58,093 --> 00:32:01,293
Speaker 13: to stretch and cover over that that filling. Give it

614
00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:02,893
Speaker 13: a bit of an egg wash around the sides, which

615
00:32:02,933 --> 00:32:05,453
Speaker 13: is with a little whistair drape that drape the lid

616
00:32:05,493 --> 00:32:07,733
Speaker 13: over the filling, press it down to seal it really

617
00:32:07,733 --> 00:32:09,893
Speaker 13: well in the rim of whatever dish you're using, and

618
00:32:09,933 --> 00:32:11,773
Speaker 13: then use a really sharp knife and make a few

619
00:32:11,813 --> 00:32:14,053
Speaker 13: steam holes in the pastry. That means you get a

620
00:32:14,053 --> 00:32:17,653
Speaker 13: beautiful crisp pastry topping on that. Brush it with the

621
00:32:17,653 --> 00:32:20,933
Speaker 13: beaten egg. With that beaten egg, lower your oven temperature

622
00:32:20,973 --> 00:32:22,933
Speaker 13: now to one hundred and eighty bangness in the oven

623
00:32:23,133 --> 00:32:26,493
Speaker 13: about forty minutes until the pastry is really good and

624
00:32:26,613 --> 00:32:30,213
Speaker 13: golden brown. Most common mistake with pies, I think is

625
00:32:30,213 --> 00:32:32,653
Speaker 13: that people don't quite or any sort of pastry cooking.

626
00:32:32,653 --> 00:32:35,973
Speaker 13: As people undercook the pastry, they think all that's golden.

627
00:32:36,053 --> 00:32:38,853
Speaker 13: Make sure it's sort of golden brown, and serve big

628
00:32:38,933 --> 00:32:43,133
Speaker 13: spoonfuls of this pie, maybe with some mashed buds or peas,

629
00:32:43,533 --> 00:32:47,733
Speaker 13: or even a fresh leafy salad, because salads aren't just

630
00:32:47,773 --> 00:32:50,333
Speaker 13: for summer, and sometimes the heaviness of a pie can

631
00:32:50,373 --> 00:32:52,893
Speaker 13: be really nice to have something fresh with it. So

632
00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:53,933
Speaker 13: how does that sound.

633
00:32:54,333 --> 00:32:56,933
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the blue cheese and the beagg because

634
00:32:56,973 --> 00:32:59,453
Speaker 3: blue cheese can be a little bit polarizing. Does it

635
00:32:59,573 --> 00:33:01,933
Speaker 3: overwhelming the taste of the pie.

636
00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:01,853
Speaker 11: Or it.

637
00:33:04,213 --> 00:33:04,773
Speaker 12: Really doesn't.

638
00:33:04,813 --> 00:33:07,613
Speaker 13: It just provides a beautiful tank, So great question. Look,

639
00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:09,933
Speaker 13: if you really aren't a fan of blue cheese, you

640
00:33:09,933 --> 00:33:13,053
Speaker 13: could use a good cheddar would work well, just sort

641
00:33:13,053 --> 00:33:15,973
Speaker 13: of maybe great, the equivalent of that over it. It

642
00:33:16,093 --> 00:33:18,973
Speaker 13: just gives a It gives a beef a beautiful little tang.

643
00:33:19,213 --> 00:33:21,613
Speaker 13: If you didn't want to use beer, you could use

644
00:33:21,653 --> 00:33:24,453
Speaker 13: the equivalent amount of stock if you like, so just

645
00:33:24,493 --> 00:33:27,133
Speaker 13: a veg stock or something like that. And don't worry

646
00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:30,733
Speaker 13: that when you're making the beef mixture, when it's hot,

647
00:33:30,773 --> 00:33:34,373
Speaker 13: it will look quite liquidy, but it'll sticken a little

648
00:33:34,373 --> 00:33:36,573
Speaker 13: bit with that flower. But then once it's cooled down,

649
00:33:37,533 --> 00:33:39,933
Speaker 13: it should be quite sort of solid so that it'll

650
00:33:40,133 --> 00:33:42,333
Speaker 13: sit in your pie nicely. And then of course once

651
00:33:42,373 --> 00:33:45,253
Speaker 13: it gets reheated, that gravy starts to loosen and you'll

652
00:33:45,253 --> 00:33:46,493
Speaker 13: have a beautiful result.

653
00:33:46,933 --> 00:33:48,973
Speaker 3: Is beer like wine? Do you when you cook it?

654
00:33:49,013 --> 00:33:50,093
Speaker 3: Do you burn off alcohol?

655
00:33:50,853 --> 00:33:51,133
Speaker 15: Yeah?

656
00:33:51,173 --> 00:33:51,533
Speaker 16: You do?

657
00:33:51,653 --> 00:33:53,413
Speaker 13: So even if you're a non drinker, as I am,

658
00:33:53,453 --> 00:33:57,133
Speaker 13: it won't matter, because that will have all evaporators. I've

659
00:33:57,173 --> 00:34:00,133
Speaker 13: made a similar pie using using a bit of a

660
00:34:00,173 --> 00:34:02,493
Speaker 13: combination of red wine. Red wine as lovely in a

661
00:34:02,533 --> 00:34:05,733
Speaker 13: pie as well as stock. But again, you know, well

662
00:34:05,733 --> 00:34:08,013
Speaker 13: we're out of dry July now. At least for those

663
00:34:08,053 --> 00:34:10,933
Speaker 13: people that were doing that, I think you should carry

664
00:34:10,973 --> 00:34:13,813
Speaker 13: on and do good August or something as well.

665
00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:15,693
Speaker 17: Well.

666
00:34:15,933 --> 00:34:17,933
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people do, don't they. A

667
00:34:17,933 --> 00:34:20,693
Speaker 3: lot of people get ryan. Yeah, I feel pretty good.

668
00:34:21,293 --> 00:34:24,333
Speaker 13: I know something that's a bit of money takes a

669
00:34:24,373 --> 00:34:26,813
Speaker 13: bit of money. I haven't had any any mornings where

670
00:34:26,853 --> 00:34:30,093
Speaker 13: I feel a little shabby carry a lot.

671
00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:33,253
Speaker 2: I all that.

672
00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:37,533
Speaker 13: Though I'm a non drinker, I have plenty of alcohol

673
00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:39,293
Speaker 13: in the house because I do love to cock with it.

674
00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:41,693
Speaker 13: I think it gives it that extraordinary sort of slight

675
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:45,933
Speaker 13: so tang forment, that mysterious flavor so wine and beer

676
00:34:45,933 --> 00:34:47,973
Speaker 13: and that sort of thing is pretty lovely. But no,

677
00:34:48,053 --> 00:34:49,813
Speaker 13: by all means you could replace that with stock.

678
00:34:50,373 --> 00:34:52,213
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, love you to talk to you,

679
00:34:52,333 --> 00:34:54,253
Speaker 3: Nikki Wixon. Of course you'll be able to find that

680
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Speaker 3: recipe on our website Newstalk ZDB dot co dot nz

681
00:34:59,213 --> 00:35:04,093
Speaker 3: Ford slash Jack. You're with Saturday Mornings. It is eight

682
00:35:04,173 --> 00:35:04,733
Speaker 3: to ten.

683
00:35:05,693 --> 00:35:08,653
Speaker 1: Giving you the side scoop on all you need to know.

684
00:35:09,093 --> 00:35:12,813
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack Day and

685
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Speaker 1: Fewer quality supplements for essential Energy news talks.

686
00:35:16,493 --> 00:35:18,053
Speaker 2: At be Yes.

687
00:35:18,133 --> 00:35:20,853
Speaker 3: I'm Francisca Rudkin filling in for Jack Tame just for

688
00:35:20,933 --> 00:35:23,213
Speaker 3: the Saturday. Jack's taking a little holiday. He will be

689
00:35:23,293 --> 00:35:26,973
Speaker 3: back next Saturday. I've got a text here that says Francisca,

690
00:35:27,053 --> 00:35:30,453
Speaker 3: after the disgusting mocking of Christianity and the opening ceremony,

691
00:35:30,453 --> 00:35:32,573
Speaker 3: we are boycotting anything to do with the Olympics, as

692
00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:37,013
Speaker 3: are many kiwis. Why okay, I know that you were

693
00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:39,813
Speaker 3: disappointed with the opening ceremony. There's got nothing to do

694
00:35:39,893 --> 00:35:43,453
Speaker 3: with the athletes. Athletes who have put their whole lives

695
00:35:43,493 --> 00:35:46,373
Speaker 3: four years, ten years, twenty years and to getting to

696
00:35:46,413 --> 00:35:49,573
Speaker 3: these Olympics and competing. They're providing us with some incredible

697
00:35:49,613 --> 00:35:54,893
Speaker 3: sportsmanship and entertainment and what they can do is absolutely incredible.

698
00:35:54,933 --> 00:35:58,493
Speaker 3: It's watching the trampoline this this morning. Man, that was

699
00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:01,413
Speaker 3: just phenomenal. You know, so, I get it you're upset

700
00:36:01,453 --> 00:36:03,813
Speaker 3: with the opening ceremony, but don't let that ruin the

701
00:36:03,933 --> 00:36:06,893
Speaker 3: whole experience for you. There is so much much more

702
00:36:06,933 --> 00:36:10,613
Speaker 3: to the Olympics than just an opening ceremony. So please,

703
00:36:10,693 --> 00:36:13,813
Speaker 3: you know, jump on our Heart radio tonight and tomorrow

704
00:36:13,813 --> 00:36:18,013
Speaker 3: morning and support ol Kiwis who are who are competing,

705
00:36:18,173 --> 00:36:20,773
Speaker 3: especially in the finals. I think you'll find it a

706
00:36:20,893 --> 00:36:26,173
Speaker 3: very rewarding experience. Alrighty ho. If you love some infectious

707
00:36:26,213 --> 00:36:29,093
Speaker 3: pop music, then you're gonna love Lime Cordial. You may

708
00:36:29,133 --> 00:36:31,533
Speaker 3: already be a fan of the brothers Ollie and Louis,

709
00:36:31,573 --> 00:36:33,733
Speaker 3: but if you're not already, then their third album, it's

710
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,893
Speaker 3: called Enough of the Sweet Talk, is a great time

711
00:36:36,973 --> 00:36:38,973
Speaker 3: to get on board. The album takes you through a

712
00:36:39,013 --> 00:36:41,973
Speaker 3: relationship from the beginning to the end, telling stories and

713
00:36:42,013 --> 00:36:44,493
Speaker 3: expressing emotions that we've all felt at some stage in

714
00:36:44,533 --> 00:36:48,133
Speaker 3: our lives. So these low key, fun loving brothers are

715
00:36:48,133 --> 00:36:50,253
Speaker 3: with me next to talk about fifteen years in the

716
00:36:50,293 --> 00:36:53,773
Speaker 3: biz and making their own beer. And don't forget we

717
00:36:53,933 --> 00:36:56,413
Speaker 3: have tickets to give away to their New Zealand concert

718
00:36:56,773 --> 00:36:58,813
Speaker 3: as well. There's a little bit of Lime Cordial to

719
00:36:58,813 --> 00:37:00,413
Speaker 3: get you in the mood. This is cold treatment.

720
00:37:08,773 --> 00:37:12,653
Speaker 9: That's a cheat and chicks but we don't even know

721
00:37:13,653 --> 00:37:19,053
Speaker 9: whatever rated that's the cold Chipen chic.

722
00:37:20,173 --> 00:37:34,453
Speaker 2: CFO, your cheating is col was cheat.

723
00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:46,613
Speaker 10: That's a cold chipment chickens, but we don't even know whatever.

724
00:37:46,853 --> 00:37:55,133
Speaker 9: Unted. That's a co ch chicp though sad your treat minutes.

725
00:37:57,613 --> 00:38:02,053
Speaker 18: That's a chip in chickens, but we don't even know

726
00:38:02,493 --> 00:38:03,493
Speaker 18: whatever acted.

727
00:38:05,733 --> 00:39:27,573
Speaker 9: That's a.

728
00:38:52,893 --> 00:38:55,253
Speaker 2: A cracking way to start your Saturday.

729
00:38:55,573 --> 00:39:00,093
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in Projective and Be Pure

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Speaker 1: Quality Supplements for a sciential energy news talks at.

731
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:23,733
Speaker 3: B Good morning and welcome to Saturday Mornings. I'm Frank

732
00:39:23,773 --> 00:39:26,973
Speaker 3: Chesca Rudkins filling in for Jack Tame for the morning.

733
00:39:26,973 --> 00:39:30,293
Speaker 3: Can be back next Saturday now. Lime Cordial, who you're

734
00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:34,453
Speaker 3: listening to now, are Australian's ultimate purveyors of breezy indie rock.

735
00:39:34,813 --> 00:39:37,613
Speaker 3: Brothers Ollie and Louis have amassed more than half a

736
00:39:37,693 --> 00:39:41,333
Speaker 3: billion streams on Spotify since the band's inception in two

737
00:39:41,373 --> 00:39:45,013
Speaker 3: thousand and nine. As well as backing multiple ARIA Awards

738
00:39:45,173 --> 00:39:48,213
Speaker 3: and performing around the world. They have even cemented themselves

739
00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:51,733
Speaker 3: as standouts, even more so with their brand new album

740
00:39:52,013 --> 00:39:54,973
Speaker 3: Enough of the Sweet Talk and the Lime Cordial Boys

741
00:39:55,013 --> 00:39:57,213
Speaker 3: are Worth Me Now. Good morning, Good to have you

742
00:39:57,253 --> 00:39:57,613
Speaker 3: with us.

743
00:39:57,853 --> 00:39:59,373
Speaker 19: Good morning, good to be here.

744
00:39:59,933 --> 00:40:02,213
Speaker 3: Congratulations third album were who?

745
00:40:03,813 --> 00:40:04,253
Speaker 4: Yeah?

746
00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:05,573
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's crazy.

747
00:40:05,733 --> 00:40:08,853
Speaker 20: Like I remember doing our first album and we didn't

748
00:40:08,853 --> 00:40:10,693
Speaker 20: feel like we were going to be taken seriously as

749
00:40:10,733 --> 00:40:12,933
Speaker 20: a band until we had an album out.

750
00:40:13,013 --> 00:40:15,493
Speaker 19: So now we're at number three. Yeah, it's pretty insane.

751
00:40:16,093 --> 00:40:17,693
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit. This is a bit of

752
00:40:17,693 --> 00:40:19,773
Speaker 3: a concept album in a way. Tell me a little

753
00:40:19,813 --> 00:40:22,973
Speaker 3: bit about sort of what's behind this album, because you

754
00:40:23,093 --> 00:40:24,973
Speaker 3: try to tell it, you're telling the story of a

755
00:40:25,013 --> 00:40:27,213
Speaker 3: relationship sort of in a chronological order.

756
00:40:27,253 --> 00:40:27,733
Speaker 2: Is that right?

757
00:40:28,893 --> 00:40:29,173
Speaker 4: Yeah?

758
00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:31,493
Speaker 20: I mean we're still trying to work out whether it

759
00:40:31,573 --> 00:40:34,533
Speaker 20: is a concept album or not. I'm still getting familiar

760
00:40:34,573 --> 00:40:37,453
Speaker 20: with that term, but it's been thrown around a bit,

761
00:40:37,493 --> 00:40:40,493
Speaker 20: and I guess if there's a concept behind an album

762
00:40:40,533 --> 00:40:42,733
Speaker 20: as a whole, then you call it a concept album,

763
00:40:42,853 --> 00:40:43,733
Speaker 20: right that?

764
00:40:44,133 --> 00:40:44,893
Speaker 19: What do you think?

765
00:40:44,973 --> 00:40:48,253
Speaker 3: I'm probably showing my age by calling it a concept album.

766
00:40:48,893 --> 00:40:50,653
Speaker 19: I'd say let's go with concept album.

767
00:40:50,653 --> 00:40:53,453
Speaker 20: It sounds it sounds good, it sounds artie, it sounds professional.

768
00:40:54,093 --> 00:40:55,573
Speaker 3: Do you know what I do? You know what I

769
00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:58,453
Speaker 3: love about that, though, is that you know I've got

770
00:40:58,493 --> 00:41:03,973
Speaker 3: two teenage kids who don't understand anything beyond shuffling an

771
00:41:04,053 --> 00:41:06,773
Speaker 3: album and shuffling songs and things, you know. And I

772
00:41:06,773 --> 00:41:08,013
Speaker 3: grew up in an area, and I mean, and we

773
00:41:08,053 --> 00:41:10,453
Speaker 3: still have vinyl these days, but you know, CDs and

774
00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:12,613
Speaker 3: vinyl and things. You put an album on and you

775
00:41:12,973 --> 00:41:14,573
Speaker 3: listen to it from the beginning to the end, and

776
00:41:14,613 --> 00:41:16,133
Speaker 3: it kind of took you on a journey and that

777
00:41:16,293 --> 00:41:18,933
Speaker 3: was sort of the part of the joy of listening

778
00:41:18,973 --> 00:41:19,813
Speaker 3: to an album.

779
00:41:19,653 --> 00:41:23,213
Speaker 20: Right, yeah, And I mean, I think we had maybe

780
00:41:23,213 --> 00:41:27,013
Speaker 20: the biggest year of vinyl sales last year ever, so

781
00:41:27,213 --> 00:41:30,093
Speaker 20: vinyls are kind of popping off more than ever, and

782
00:41:30,173 --> 00:41:33,013
Speaker 20: people it's a good sign because people love to have

783
00:41:33,133 --> 00:41:35,653
Speaker 20: a little bit more than just a file on their

784
00:41:35,693 --> 00:41:39,293
Speaker 20: computer or be streaming and they want to, yeah, just

785
00:41:39,413 --> 00:41:41,333
Speaker 20: be a bit more involved and be able to look

786
00:41:41,373 --> 00:41:45,053
Speaker 20: through this artwork, which is really cool to know that

787
00:41:45,053 --> 00:41:46,573
Speaker 20: that's coming back more than ever.

788
00:41:46,893 --> 00:41:49,213
Speaker 6: It was nice to have a big physical piece of

789
00:41:49,333 --> 00:41:49,893
Speaker 6: art in your.

790
00:41:49,773 --> 00:41:50,493
Speaker 2: Hand as well.

791
00:41:50,573 --> 00:41:54,253
Speaker 20: Absolutely, and listening to an album from front to back.

792
00:41:54,333 --> 00:41:58,773
Speaker 20: I think you know, the move from like napster and downloading,

793
00:41:59,693 --> 00:42:02,293
Speaker 20: you know, a song by song when you're on dial

794
00:42:02,413 --> 00:42:05,453
Speaker 20: up internet and you can only really download one song

795
00:42:05,493 --> 00:42:10,133
Speaker 20: at a time. You know, now that we're on streaming services.

796
00:42:10,213 --> 00:42:13,293
Speaker 20: It feels like people are kind of going, oh, have

797
00:42:13,333 --> 00:42:15,333
Speaker 20: you heard this album? I'll put on the whole album.

798
00:42:15,413 --> 00:42:18,973
Speaker 20: So there's that does feel pretty great. You know, people

799
00:42:19,053 --> 00:42:21,653
Speaker 20: are enjoying getting into a whole thing.

800
00:42:21,733 --> 00:42:23,973
Speaker 19: But yeah, we've got we've.

801
00:42:23,813 --> 00:42:29,813
Speaker 20: Got a big, big Spotify liked songs list that we

802
00:42:30,093 --> 00:42:34,013
Speaker 20: just shuffle through. So there's definitely guilty. We're guilty of

803
00:42:34,053 --> 00:42:35,173
Speaker 20: the shuffle, that's for sure.

804
00:42:35,413 --> 00:42:38,653
Speaker 3: I think we all are. Does the love or the

805
00:42:38,693 --> 00:42:41,213
Speaker 3: heartbreak belong to one of you or both of you?

806
00:42:42,773 --> 00:42:45,053
Speaker 6: I think that's the funny thing about doing it together.

807
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:48,173
Speaker 6: It's sort of you know, you have to you have

808
00:42:48,253 --> 00:42:52,893
Speaker 6: to separate. You're living the same you know, heartbreaks and

809
00:42:52,933 --> 00:42:55,813
Speaker 6: love affairs and you know all of that, and then

810
00:42:55,813 --> 00:42:57,733
Speaker 6: you have to come together and talk about it and

811
00:42:57,773 --> 00:43:01,453
Speaker 6: try and sort of put that all on paper, and you.

812
00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:04,213
Speaker 19: Know, therapy sessions. Therapy sessions we've been calling.

813
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:07,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, we've sort of realized that these songs running sessions

814
00:43:07,133 --> 00:43:09,893
Speaker 20: of sometimes the only time.

815
00:43:09,733 --> 00:43:11,453
Speaker 19: We chat about deep issues.

816
00:43:11,813 --> 00:43:16,493
Speaker 20: You know, being Australian men, we just like don't go

817
00:43:16,613 --> 00:43:19,853
Speaker 20: deep all the time or prefer not to talk about something.

818
00:43:19,893 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 20: But if it's for the greatness of a song that's

819
00:43:23,693 --> 00:43:25,813
Speaker 20: more important to us. So we ended up we end

820
00:43:25,893 --> 00:43:28,773
Speaker 20: up talking about these things that we don't always talk about.

821
00:43:29,013 --> 00:43:31,253
Speaker 20: But you know, I've been in a relationship for ten

822
00:43:31,373 --> 00:43:34,253
Speaker 20: years now, so more of the heartbreak is probably on

823
00:43:34,653 --> 00:43:41,053
Speaker 20: Louis's end with this one, unfortunately for him, not unfortunately

824
00:43:41,053 --> 00:43:42,333
Speaker 20: for me. I'm only a great time.

825
00:43:43,733 --> 00:43:45,853
Speaker 3: Sorry. I don't want to speak on behalf of all

826
00:43:45,893 --> 00:43:47,493
Speaker 3: the men of New Zealand, but I'm sure that they

827
00:43:47,533 --> 00:43:49,813
Speaker 3: feel very much the same way you do. Was there

828
00:43:49,853 --> 00:43:52,853
Speaker 3: any hesidency going into the third album? I mean, the

829
00:43:52,853 --> 00:43:55,453
Speaker 3: first two have just been received so well.

830
00:43:56,853 --> 00:44:01,613
Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, we're really proud of how our last

831
00:44:01,613 --> 00:44:05,333
Speaker 20: albums have gone. And yeah, third album definitely way more pressure,

832
00:44:05,813 --> 00:44:09,093
Speaker 20: I think, you know, and our fan base is bigger,

833
00:44:09,293 --> 00:44:12,013
Speaker 20: so you're sort of dropping an album to a bigger

834
00:44:12,053 --> 00:44:15,933
Speaker 20: fan base. There's definitely, you know, it's definitely what slowed

835
00:44:15,933 --> 00:44:20,573
Speaker 20: it down at times for sure. And yeah, when we

836
00:44:20,733 --> 00:44:23,053
Speaker 20: first started, we wanted to kind of rush through it.

837
00:44:23,133 --> 00:44:25,933
Speaker 20: We were like, you know, let's finish this album before

838
00:44:25,933 --> 00:44:28,213
Speaker 20: the end of the year, and it was already September,

839
00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:31,013
Speaker 20: so we thought we thought we could do it, and

840
00:44:31,373 --> 00:44:33,493
Speaker 20: I don't think it really got finished for another.

841
00:44:33,253 --> 00:44:36,013
Speaker 19: Like year and a half or something. We had a

842
00:44:36,013 --> 00:44:36,573
Speaker 19: lot of breaks.

843
00:44:36,573 --> 00:44:38,613
Speaker 20: I think it was important for us to have to

844
00:44:39,213 --> 00:44:41,613
Speaker 20: get to a point and then just sort of sit

845
00:44:41,653 --> 00:44:43,653
Speaker 20: with it and have a break and not listen to it.

846
00:44:44,133 --> 00:44:45,493
Speaker 19: Yeah, not listen to it for a.

847
00:44:45,453 --> 00:44:47,453
Speaker 20: While, or you know, just listen to it from the

848
00:44:47,493 --> 00:44:51,613
Speaker 20: phone speaker instead of in a studio and then pump

849
00:44:51,653 --> 00:44:54,453
Speaker 20: it in the car with a few friends. So just

850
00:44:54,493 --> 00:44:57,973
Speaker 20: to kind of yeah, I guess, sit with it, get

851
00:44:58,013 --> 00:45:00,813
Speaker 20: used to it, get different opinions and different perspectives.

852
00:45:01,653 --> 00:45:04,213
Speaker 3: What I love about the songs Louis is there's there's

853
00:45:04,253 --> 00:45:06,653
Speaker 3: so much and the all there's all these layers and

854
00:45:06,893 --> 00:45:09,933
Speaker 3: instruments and samples and sounds, and you're not and you

855
00:45:09,933 --> 00:45:12,293
Speaker 3: don't quite know what's going to come nicked. When you

856
00:45:12,333 --> 00:45:15,013
Speaker 3: write the songs, do you do you see them as

857
00:45:15,013 --> 00:45:18,213
Speaker 3: a whole? Do you hear all those those sounds or

858
00:45:18,213 --> 00:45:20,533
Speaker 3: does that work come when you get into the studio.

859
00:45:22,413 --> 00:45:25,733
Speaker 20: Well, when we're writing, we tend to write and sort

860
00:45:25,733 --> 00:45:30,333
Speaker 20: of produce the song at the same time, So there

861
00:45:30,373 --> 00:45:32,373
Speaker 20: are a lot of parts from the from the get

862
00:45:32,373 --> 00:45:36,413
Speaker 20: go we're not or we're not really. Yeah, we don't

863
00:45:36,453 --> 00:45:39,133
Speaker 20: often just write at a piano or on an acoustic guitar,

864
00:45:39,213 --> 00:45:41,813
Speaker 20: although we're sort of trying to do that more because

865
00:45:41,853 --> 00:45:43,893
Speaker 20: I think then you really get the essence of just

866
00:45:43,973 --> 00:45:46,693
Speaker 20: the song without getting distracted by like a cool synth

867
00:45:46,773 --> 00:45:50,213
Speaker 20: part or a horn line or something like that. So

868
00:45:50,253 --> 00:45:54,413
Speaker 20: we yeah, but often, you know, often we might start

869
00:45:54,453 --> 00:45:56,773
Speaker 20: with a guitar riff and that's the first thing that

870
00:45:56,973 --> 00:46:00,253
Speaker 20: comes in, you know, or a cowbell or something you know,

871
00:46:00,493 --> 00:46:01,013
Speaker 20: early on.

872
00:46:02,373 --> 00:46:04,333
Speaker 19: So yeah, but I mean.

873
00:46:04,213 --> 00:46:09,573
Speaker 20: We love as as tormenting as being in the studio

874
00:46:09,693 --> 00:46:13,293
Speaker 20: can be sometimes, you know, listening over and over music

875
00:46:13,373 --> 00:46:18,013
Speaker 20: and having your doubts. I think we loved making sounds

876
00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:20,933
Speaker 20: and weird sounds. We love being in the studio, and

877
00:46:21,173 --> 00:46:24,533
Speaker 20: you know, at some point we're pretty keen to build

878
00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:27,853
Speaker 20: our own studio some point soon, just because we have

879
00:46:27,973 --> 00:46:29,853
Speaker 20: so many weird and whack.

880
00:46:29,733 --> 00:46:32,013
Speaker 19: Instruments that we can bring into a studio.

881
00:46:32,253 --> 00:46:35,773
Speaker 20: We did most of this at our farm on the

882
00:46:35,773 --> 00:46:38,133
Speaker 20: mid north coast of New South Wales, and you just

883
00:46:38,173 --> 00:46:41,053
Speaker 20: take take over the living room, you know, and you

884
00:46:41,093 --> 00:46:45,573
Speaker 20: can put all of your keyboards together in one corner,

885
00:46:45,613 --> 00:46:48,413
Speaker 20: and then there's the piano in another corner of the room,

886
00:46:48,453 --> 00:46:53,733
Speaker 20: and all different guitars that you've got and then weird

887
00:46:53,773 --> 00:46:57,493
Speaker 20: percussion and yeah, so we've got it's kind of this

888
00:46:58,173 --> 00:47:02,173
Speaker 20: We've managed to fill the room with likes mess and

889
00:47:02,213 --> 00:47:04,973
Speaker 20: beautiful instruments and sounds, and you know, even went out

890
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:06,133
Speaker 20: into the field and recorded.

891
00:47:06,133 --> 00:47:09,133
Speaker 19: Aw so you can hear that at the end of it.

892
00:47:09,293 --> 00:47:09,893
Speaker 3: I did hear that?

893
00:47:10,133 --> 00:47:10,333
Speaker 4: Yeah?

894
00:47:10,413 --> 00:47:14,693
Speaker 20: Yeah, so so then so then of course, now you

895
00:47:14,733 --> 00:47:17,533
Speaker 20: need to take all these wacky instruments and these sounds

896
00:47:17,573 --> 00:47:19,373
Speaker 20: and you need to turn it into a live show.

897
00:47:19,413 --> 00:47:21,413
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, you guys have been performing

898
00:47:21,853 --> 00:47:24,293
Speaker 3: forever and you're about to hit out on a really

899
00:47:24,293 --> 00:47:25,933
Speaker 3: big tour of Australia and you're coming here to New

900
00:47:26,053 --> 00:47:28,453
Speaker 3: Zealand and things. Is that fun? Is that fun? Kind

901
00:47:28,453 --> 00:47:29,893
Speaker 3: of taking this album and going okay, now, how do

902
00:47:29,973 --> 00:47:31,973
Speaker 3: we how do we play this live? How do we

903
00:47:32,013 --> 00:47:32,293
Speaker 3: do this?

904
00:47:32,973 --> 00:47:34,573
Speaker 19: We just mind it?

905
00:47:35,333 --> 00:47:38,773
Speaker 20: Yeah, got the lip thinking, yeah, yeah, get one of

906
00:47:38,813 --> 00:47:45,453
Speaker 20: those little radio marks comes down. Yeah, no, where it's scary,

907
00:47:45,973 --> 00:47:48,973
Speaker 20: it's definitely. You know, when you first write the song,

908
00:47:48,973 --> 00:47:50,333
Speaker 20: you know how to play it so well, and you're

909
00:47:50,333 --> 00:47:54,573
Speaker 20: playing it all the time, and then like we haven't

910
00:47:54,573 --> 00:47:57,453
Speaker 20: actually played these songs since we recorded them, and that

911
00:47:57,533 --> 00:47:59,093
Speaker 20: was a little while ago. Now, so we've sort of

912
00:47:59,173 --> 00:48:01,333
Speaker 20: forgotten how to do it, so now you have to.

913
00:48:01,613 --> 00:48:03,533
Speaker 20: It becomes a point where you sort of have to

914
00:48:03,573 --> 00:48:08,973
Speaker 20: relearn your songs, which sounds sounds crazy to people that

915
00:48:09,493 --> 00:48:13,573
Speaker 20: aren't musicians, but I think most bands and artists they're

916
00:48:13,573 --> 00:48:15,893
Speaker 20: in the same boat with that, Like I don't know

917
00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:17,653
Speaker 20: how to play that song. I need to relearn how

918
00:48:17,693 --> 00:48:21,173
Speaker 20: to do it, So learn your own song. Yeah, so

919
00:48:21,813 --> 00:48:23,933
Speaker 20: that's what we're working on right now, getting into the

920
00:48:23,933 --> 00:48:28,613
Speaker 20: studio and sorry, getting into the rehearsal room and then yeah,

921
00:48:29,013 --> 00:48:31,493
Speaker 20: going out and playing these songs for the first time.

922
00:48:31,653 --> 00:48:34,893
Speaker 20: So it's scary, but it's also like we need to

923
00:48:34,933 --> 00:48:39,213
Speaker 20: know how audiences react in venues, so you know, to

924
00:48:39,293 --> 00:48:42,413
Speaker 20: really know how the song's going, what's.

925
00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:44,573
Speaker 3: The live scene like in Australia. We've got a lot

926
00:48:44,573 --> 00:48:47,333
Speaker 3: of big, big artists touring here in New Zealand who

927
00:48:47,333 --> 00:48:48,973
Speaker 3: seem to be doing quite well. But you talk to

928
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:51,773
Speaker 3: a lot of local artists and they say, people, you know,

929
00:48:51,853 --> 00:48:53,933
Speaker 3: we've had a bit of a cost of living crisis

930
00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:55,973
Speaker 3: and a bit of a struggle after COVID and it's

931
00:48:56,013 --> 00:48:58,693
Speaker 3: sort of struggling a little bit. How is it in Australia.

932
00:48:59,893 --> 00:49:00,613
Speaker 19: It's the same thing.

933
00:49:00,693 --> 00:49:05,133
Speaker 20: Sydney live music scene has changed a lot since we

934
00:49:05,213 --> 00:49:08,293
Speaker 20: first started. A lot of venues closed down because we

935
00:49:08,333 --> 00:49:11,053
Speaker 20: had a curfew that came in meant that nothing could

936
00:49:11,093 --> 00:49:14,293
Speaker 20: go on past whatever it was, like eleven or twelve

937
00:49:14,293 --> 00:49:14,973
Speaker 20: o'clock at night.

938
00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:17,613
Speaker 19: A lot of venues couldn't survive.

939
00:49:17,693 --> 00:49:21,093
Speaker 20: And then there was COVID and then there's just a

940
00:49:21,933 --> 00:49:26,813
Speaker 20: bunch of old conservatives that are making noise complaints and

941
00:49:26,853 --> 00:49:30,373
Speaker 20: closing down venues. So yeah, the Sydney's had a bit

942
00:49:30,373 --> 00:49:32,973
Speaker 20: of a hard time. Melbourne has always been the hub

943
00:49:33,013 --> 00:49:36,773
Speaker 20: for Australian music and it seems to be that way still.

944
00:49:37,773 --> 00:49:40,493
Speaker 20: I don't know how we managed to not move to Melbourne,

945
00:49:40,533 --> 00:49:44,773
Speaker 20: but I think if you're in the country, or maybe

946
00:49:44,773 --> 00:49:46,413
Speaker 20: if you're in New Zealand and you wanted to go

947
00:49:46,493 --> 00:49:49,853
Speaker 20: to a big city, Melbourne's probably the one to move

948
00:49:49,893 --> 00:49:53,293
Speaker 20: to arts and culture. But even people get, you know,

949
00:49:54,053 --> 00:49:57,293
Speaker 20: feel like Australian Australia is too small and they feel

950
00:49:57,333 --> 00:49:59,733
Speaker 20: like they need to move to la or over to

951
00:49:59,813 --> 00:50:02,213
Speaker 20: Europe or something because there's more avenues.

952
00:50:02,293 --> 00:50:08,213
Speaker 19: Really that's the thing, more avenues and of reaching people

953
00:50:08,333 --> 00:50:09,213
Speaker 19: in different countries.

954
00:50:09,293 --> 00:50:12,373
Speaker 20: But at the same time, I feel like you need

955
00:50:12,413 --> 00:50:15,653
Speaker 20: to kind of make your own avenues so you can

956
00:50:15,773 --> 00:50:19,373
Speaker 20: hustle and get your get your music out there in

957
00:50:20,293 --> 00:50:24,413
Speaker 20: so many different ways. Definitely online, but for us it

958
00:50:24,573 --> 00:50:27,773
Speaker 20: was live gigs have been kind of the main thing

959
00:50:28,093 --> 00:50:30,013
Speaker 20: for getting out there.

960
00:50:30,693 --> 00:50:33,333
Speaker 3: I know that you guys are really conscious too about

961
00:50:33,973 --> 00:50:36,093
Speaker 3: this job that you have, which sees you touring the

962
00:50:36,093 --> 00:50:38,453
Speaker 3: world and things, but you're very focused sort of on

963
00:50:38,493 --> 00:50:44,053
Speaker 3: the environment and sustainability. How have those values impacted how

964
00:50:44,093 --> 00:50:44,853
Speaker 3: you do your job?

965
00:50:48,213 --> 00:50:49,133
Speaker 19: Well, we feel like.

966
00:50:49,613 --> 00:50:54,533
Speaker 3: Aside from just making beer, yeah, yeah, carbon neutral beer.

967
00:50:54,493 --> 00:50:55,573
Speaker 19: Carber neutral beer.

968
00:50:55,773 --> 00:50:57,533
Speaker 20: You know, well, I guess the story behind the beer

969
00:50:57,653 --> 00:51:00,173
Speaker 20: is that we were making a consumable product and we

970
00:51:00,693 --> 00:51:02,973
Speaker 20: felt bad about you know, we don't necessarily want to

971
00:51:02,973 --> 00:51:06,013
Speaker 20: put more trash out into the world, so you know,

972
00:51:06,093 --> 00:51:11,253
Speaker 20: making that carbon neutral and cans instead of glasses. Like

973
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:14,893
Speaker 20: the different different reasons behind how we've done things with

974
00:51:14,933 --> 00:51:18,373
Speaker 20: the beer making the same as with our merchandise. Merchandise

975
00:51:18,453 --> 00:51:23,093
Speaker 20: we like it to be you know, not polyester and

976
00:51:23,293 --> 00:51:27,653
Speaker 20: organic cotton or hemp bamboo if we can, because.

977
00:51:27,973 --> 00:51:30,533
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, like fast fashion is a big problem.

978
00:51:30,693 --> 00:51:32,773
Speaker 20: And then I think the main thing for us that

979
00:51:33,733 --> 00:51:37,813
Speaker 20: we feel bad about is air you know, airplanes just

980
00:51:37,853 --> 00:51:41,773
Speaker 20: flying all over the world, and they obviously you can't

981
00:51:41,853 --> 00:51:46,373
Speaker 20: do an electric plane or a green hydrogen plane over

982
00:51:46,453 --> 00:51:50,253
Speaker 20: to England right now, but there's still alternatives to kind

983
00:51:50,253 --> 00:51:53,693
Speaker 20: of offset. And then if you're looking into offsetting, you've

984
00:51:53,693 --> 00:51:56,533
Speaker 20: got to make sure that it's credible and you're not

985
00:51:56,653 --> 00:52:00,893
Speaker 20: just ticking the box on quantus and that seems like

986
00:52:00,933 --> 00:52:01,813
Speaker 20: you're doing the good thing.

987
00:52:01,813 --> 00:52:02,813
Speaker 19: You got to look into it.

988
00:52:02,733 --> 00:52:05,613
Speaker 20: A little bit more so with sort of like every

989
00:52:05,933 --> 00:52:11,693
Speaker 20: part of the business, and it's a high carbon producing

990
00:52:11,773 --> 00:52:14,933
Speaker 20: business that we've got. We want to keep touring and

991
00:52:14,973 --> 00:52:17,653
Speaker 20: we want to keep making music, but we are trying

992
00:52:17,693 --> 00:52:22,013
Speaker 20: to look at each little area and see where we

993
00:52:22,053 --> 00:52:26,693
Speaker 20: can do better essentially. So yeah, that's our project at

994
00:52:26,693 --> 00:52:27,053
Speaker 20: the moment.

995
00:52:27,813 --> 00:52:31,453
Speaker 3: Because it's been a delight to talk to you. Thank

996
00:52:31,493 --> 00:52:34,253
Speaker 3: you so much for your time, and thank you for

997
00:52:34,293 --> 00:52:38,053
Speaker 3: the album. Loving it. You know how music reviewers often

998
00:52:38,173 --> 00:52:41,853
Speaker 3: use that term. They often say something sort of isnfictious

999
00:52:41,853 --> 00:52:43,893
Speaker 3: indie pop music. And I always read that and go,

1000
00:52:43,893 --> 00:52:45,733
Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah. And I got halfway through the album

1001
00:52:45,773 --> 00:52:48,173
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my gosh, this is it.

1002
00:52:48,573 --> 00:52:51,853
Speaker 3: This is infectious indie pop music. I'm going to listen

1003
00:52:51,893 --> 00:52:53,733
Speaker 3: to this. I know already I'm going to listen to

1004
00:52:53,773 --> 00:52:55,453
Speaker 3: this again and again and again. It put me in

1005
00:52:55,493 --> 00:53:00,293
Speaker 3: such a great mood. There's something about hand claps. You know,

1006
00:53:00,293 --> 00:53:02,853
Speaker 3: you're singing about getting cold treatment and it's hand claps,

1007
00:53:02,853 --> 00:53:04,333
Speaker 3: and I'm in the cag and I love it and

1008
00:53:04,373 --> 00:53:09,093
Speaker 3: I'm thinking having a lot loving it. Hey, thanks so much, guys.

1009
00:53:09,373 --> 00:53:11,253
Speaker 19: Thanks for having us. Thank you so much.

1010
00:53:11,573 --> 00:53:11,773
Speaker 8: Chao.

1011
00:53:12,613 --> 00:53:15,013
Speaker 3: Lime Cordiell is heading over to New Zealand and October

1012
00:53:15,053 --> 00:53:18,733
Speaker 3: this year for shows Dunedin, christ Church, Wellington and Auckland.

1013
00:53:19,293 --> 00:53:21,733
Speaker 3: We have got one double pass to give away to

1014
00:53:21,813 --> 00:53:25,333
Speaker 3: your nearest show. All you have to do is text

1015
00:53:25,493 --> 00:53:29,493
Speaker 3: Lime that's Lime with your name and which show you'd

1016
00:53:29,573 --> 00:53:33,013
Speaker 3: like to attend to ninety two ninety two and we

1017
00:53:33,053 --> 00:53:35,373
Speaker 3: will be picking a winner before the end of the show.

1018
00:53:35,413 --> 00:53:37,813
Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter whether you're in need in christ Church, Wellington, Auckland,

1019
00:53:37,853 --> 00:53:39,693
Speaker 3: WHI show you want to go to, we will make

1020
00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:41,973
Speaker 3: that happen. So we have got one double past to

1021
00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:46,013
Speaker 3: give away right here we Actress Rebecca Gibney has a

1022
00:53:46,053 --> 00:53:49,093
Speaker 3: new show. She stars in Ossie drama Prosper which is

1023
00:53:49,133 --> 00:53:51,773
Speaker 3: screening on TV and Z Plus alongside one of my

1024
00:53:52,013 --> 00:53:55,653
Speaker 3: favorite Ossie actors. Tara Award, is with us next with

1025
00:53:55,773 --> 00:53:57,293
Speaker 3: her TV picks for the week.

1026
00:53:57,813 --> 00:54:00,573
Speaker 2: Wow, start your weekend off in style.

1027
00:54:00,933 --> 00:54:04,653
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack Tame and

1028
00:54:04,853 --> 00:54:08,173
Speaker 1: be pure quality supplement for essential energy news talks.

1029
00:54:08,213 --> 00:54:08,533
Speaker 18: That'd be.

1030
00:54:09,973 --> 00:54:12,613
Speaker 3: Lovely to be with you. It is twenty four past ten.

1031
00:54:12,973 --> 00:54:15,933
Speaker 3: If you're keen for those Lime Cordial tickets, remember all

1032
00:54:16,013 --> 00:54:18,613
Speaker 3: you have to do is text Lime with your name

1033
00:54:18,813 --> 00:54:21,173
Speaker 3: and what show you'd like to attend to ninety two

1034
00:54:21,413 --> 00:54:26,093
Speaker 3: and ninety two Right time to see what Tara has

1035
00:54:26,133 --> 00:54:28,213
Speaker 3: got for us when it comes to her TV picks

1036
00:54:28,213 --> 00:54:30,693
Speaker 3: for the week. Always love your picks. Tara, good morning,

1037
00:54:31,133 --> 00:54:33,813
Speaker 3: Oh good morning. So Prosper. We're going to start with

1038
00:54:33,893 --> 00:54:36,413
Speaker 3: you know what. I started watching this and I have

1039
00:54:36,453 --> 00:54:39,133
Speaker 3: to be honest, I immediately compared it to the New

1040
00:54:39,253 --> 00:54:40,453
Speaker 3: Zealand series Testify.

1041
00:54:41,413 --> 00:54:46,013
Speaker 17: Yes, it's very similar to Testify, and the Prosper sort

1042
00:54:46,053 --> 00:54:47,533
Speaker 17: of came out in Australia at the start of the

1043
00:54:47,573 --> 00:54:49,373
Speaker 17: year very close to Testify, So I think that's why

1044
00:54:49,373 --> 00:54:51,853
Speaker 17: it's taken perhaps a few months for it to come

1045
00:54:51,893 --> 00:54:54,253
Speaker 17: over here to New Zealand. But this is a new

1046
00:54:54,293 --> 00:54:57,053
Speaker 17: Australian thriller. It's just come to TVNZ plus and it's

1047
00:54:57,053 --> 00:55:00,733
Speaker 17: about a family who run an evangelical megachurch in Sydney

1048
00:55:00,773 --> 00:55:03,933
Speaker 17: and what happens to that family when their ambition and

1049
00:55:04,013 --> 00:55:07,973
Speaker 17: their faith collide, and it's led by a very enigmatic,

1050
00:55:08,333 --> 00:55:11,973
Speaker 17: quite manipulative father figure. They have this perfect image in

1051
00:55:12,013 --> 00:55:14,053
Speaker 17: the church, but the reality is that everyone in the

1052
00:55:14,053 --> 00:55:16,453
Speaker 17: family has a lot of secrets. They're living very sinful

1053
00:55:16,533 --> 00:55:20,213
Speaker 17: lives and as the church grows in power, the family

1054
00:55:20,253 --> 00:55:23,453
Speaker 17: begin to implode. And as you say, lots of similarities

1055
00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:26,533
Speaker 17: to Testify, which is also on TVNZ Plus and also

1056
00:55:26,573 --> 00:55:29,573
Speaker 17: about a family running a mega church and the secrets

1057
00:55:29,613 --> 00:55:31,933
Speaker 17: that we're hiding beneath the surface. This goes a little

1058
00:55:31,973 --> 00:55:34,973
Speaker 17: harder on the corruption and the betrayal side of things.

1059
00:55:34,973 --> 00:55:37,573
Speaker 17: It's a little bit meteor in terms of the plot,

1060
00:55:37,613 --> 00:55:39,813
Speaker 17: I think. And the cast is just amazing. I mean,

1061
00:55:39,853 --> 00:55:42,293
Speaker 17: you've got Richard Roxborough, who was one of my favorite

1062
00:55:42,333 --> 00:55:45,173
Speaker 17: shows Rake I would watch him in anything, and New

1063
00:55:45,253 --> 00:55:47,293
Speaker 17: Zealand actress Rebecca Gimney as well, who's a bit of

1064
00:55:47,333 --> 00:55:51,173
Speaker 17: a Lady Macbeth figure. So it's about religion, it's about family,

1065
00:55:51,213 --> 00:55:53,893
Speaker 17: it's about power and corruption and ambition and how that

1066
00:55:53,933 --> 00:55:57,573
Speaker 17: can go all wrong. And a really solid watchable Australian drama.

1067
00:55:57,653 --> 00:55:59,613
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I love Richard Rocksburg as well. If you

1068
00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:02,693
Speaker 3: haven't watched Rake, folks, try and find it somewhere. He is.

1069
00:56:02,933 --> 00:56:06,733
Speaker 3: He's the most lovable rogue you're ever going to meetute. Now,

1070
00:56:06,813 --> 00:56:09,693
Speaker 3: something quite different is Women in Blue and this is

1071
00:56:09,733 --> 00:56:10,653
Speaker 3: on Apple TV.

1072
00:56:11,573 --> 00:56:14,373
Speaker 17: Yes, this is very different. This is a new crime drama.

1073
00:56:14,413 --> 00:56:17,453
Speaker 17: It's loosely based on a true story and it's about

1074
00:56:17,453 --> 00:56:20,733
Speaker 17: the first women who became police officers in Mexico City

1075
00:56:20,813 --> 00:56:24,333
Speaker 17: during the nineteen seventies and they're hunt for a serial killer.

1076
00:56:24,693 --> 00:56:26,133
Speaker 3: And these women kind.

1077
00:56:25,933 --> 00:56:29,533
Speaker 17: Of defied the conservative norms of the time. Instead of

1078
00:56:29,573 --> 00:56:31,613
Speaker 17: staying at home and raising their children, they wanted to

1079
00:56:31,613 --> 00:56:35,173
Speaker 17: be the first women to train as police officers. But

1080
00:56:35,253 --> 00:56:38,213
Speaker 17: what they didn't know was that this new female force

1081
00:56:38,293 --> 00:56:41,373
Speaker 17: was just a pr stunt from the Mexican police to

1082
00:56:41,453 --> 00:56:43,813
Speaker 17: distract people from the fact that they hadn't.

1083
00:56:43,533 --> 00:56:45,053
Speaker 3: For the serial killer yet.

1084
00:56:45,133 --> 00:56:48,693
Speaker 17: And when the women eventually realized this, they decide to

1085
00:56:48,773 --> 00:56:51,333
Speaker 17: find the serial killer of their own. And I came

1086
00:56:51,373 --> 00:56:53,693
Speaker 17: to this thinking that it was inspired by a true story.

1087
00:56:53,813 --> 00:56:56,773
Speaker 17: My understanding is they've been very loose with the facts here,

1088
00:56:57,373 --> 00:56:59,573
Speaker 17: and so the tone of this I found a little

1089
00:56:59,573 --> 00:57:02,333
Speaker 17: bit uneven. You know, sometimes it's a comedy, sometimes it's sophy,

1090
00:57:02,453 --> 00:57:05,573
Speaker 17: sometimes it's action. I think it's probably best to come

1091
00:57:05,573 --> 00:57:08,653
Speaker 17: to this with no expectations. Just think of it as

1092
00:57:08,653 --> 00:57:11,733
Speaker 17: a as a fictional drama. I mean, it's Apple TV.

1093
00:57:11,813 --> 00:57:14,333
Speaker 17: It's a beautiful show to watch, and these shows are

1094
00:57:14,413 --> 00:57:18,293
Speaker 17: always beautifully made. But I think it's the gripping, sort

1095
00:57:18,333 --> 00:57:20,973
Speaker 17: of intriguing murder mystery plot line. It's got ten episodes

1096
00:57:20,973 --> 00:57:24,253
Speaker 17: to kind of unfold and untangle itself, is what will

1097
00:57:24,333 --> 00:57:24,733
Speaker 17: keep you coming.

1098
00:57:24,853 --> 00:57:26,333
Speaker 3: You totally hit the nail on the head for me

1099
00:57:26,333 --> 00:57:28,773
Speaker 3: because I watched the first episode and I kind of

1100
00:57:28,893 --> 00:57:30,973
Speaker 3: like this, but it's kind of it's quite a unique

1101
00:57:30,973 --> 00:57:33,533
Speaker 3: style in tone. But you've hit the name on Hea

1102
00:57:33,573 --> 00:57:35,533
Speaker 3: when you said it's a little bit of this one minute,

1103
00:57:35,533 --> 00:57:38,133
Speaker 3: it's a soap, then it's this. Then that's absolutely right.

1104
00:57:38,213 --> 00:57:40,293
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those series you might need

1105
00:57:40,333 --> 00:57:41,693
Speaker 3: to give more than one ep too.

1106
00:57:43,013 --> 00:57:43,133
Speaker 2: Enough.

1107
00:57:43,173 --> 00:57:46,453
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Okay, all right, then, now the Red

1108
00:57:46,573 --> 00:57:49,253
Speaker 3: King tell me about this. This is on three now, Yeah,

1109
00:57:49,293 --> 00:57:51,133
Speaker 3: this is a New British crime drama. It starts on

1110
00:57:51,173 --> 00:57:53,973
Speaker 3: three Now from tomorrow and in a lot of ways

1111
00:57:53,973 --> 00:57:57,053
Speaker 3: this is your standard police procedural that you know the

1112
00:57:57,053 --> 00:57:59,373
Speaker 3: British do there so well, but it also has a

1113
00:57:59,373 --> 00:58:01,013
Speaker 3: bit of an edge to it that takes it into

1114
00:58:01,573 --> 00:58:04,253
Speaker 3: kind of a psychological thriller, almost horror.

1115
00:58:04,013 --> 00:58:07,853
Speaker 17: Territory at times. But it's about a police sergeant called

1116
00:58:07,853 --> 00:58:09,933
Speaker 17: Grace who's been in a bit of trouble and is

1117
00:58:09,973 --> 00:58:13,493
Speaker 17: sent on a punishment post to a remote island.

1118
00:58:13,173 --> 00:58:14,253
Speaker 3: Off the coast of Wales.

1119
00:58:14,653 --> 00:58:17,333
Speaker 17: So she's a city cop coming to a small community

1120
00:58:17,413 --> 00:58:21,053
Speaker 17: where there's a lot of pagan traditions and history of

1121
00:58:21,093 --> 00:58:24,533
Speaker 17: a cult. There's a missing child that nobody seems too

1122
00:58:24,933 --> 00:58:28,733
Speaker 17: concerned about finding and a lot of hostility from the

1123
00:58:28,733 --> 00:58:31,133
Speaker 17: local so Grace is really up against it and trying

1124
00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:34,453
Speaker 17: to solve this murder. And watching this it sort of

1125
00:58:34,493 --> 00:58:37,973
Speaker 17: felt like a cross between Shetland and the Wickerman. It's

1126
00:58:38,013 --> 00:58:42,613
Speaker 17: also about the isolation and the atmosphere and those folklore traditions.

1127
00:58:42,933 --> 00:58:46,293
Speaker 17: It's a delicious slow burn and even though it has

1128
00:58:46,413 --> 00:58:48,973
Speaker 17: every cliche that you would expect in a police drama,

1129
00:58:49,373 --> 00:58:52,413
Speaker 17: it doesn't matter. It pulls this off so beautifully and convincingly.

1130
00:58:52,533 --> 00:58:53,453
Speaker 3: I like this a lot.

1131
00:58:54,053 --> 00:58:57,533
Speaker 17: If you're a fan of a slow, dark police drama

1132
00:58:57,533 --> 00:58:59,813
Speaker 17: with a bit of a psychological edge, this is for you,

1133
00:58:59,933 --> 00:59:01,533
Speaker 17: and it drops on three Now tomorrow.

1134
00:59:01,573 --> 00:59:03,133
Speaker 3: It's got a big tick from me. One of the

1135
00:59:03,213 --> 00:59:05,173
Speaker 3: joys of doing this show and filling in for Jack

1136
00:59:05,213 --> 00:59:07,693
Speaker 3: Tara is that when I get your list of shows

1137
00:59:07,733 --> 00:59:11,053
Speaker 3: you're going to talk about, I feel obliged. You know,

1138
00:59:11,333 --> 00:59:13,813
Speaker 3: It's part of my job, I'm being professional, is to

1139
00:59:13,853 --> 00:59:17,293
Speaker 3: sit down and watch these shows. And I love crime

1140
00:59:17,333 --> 00:59:20,253
Speaker 3: dramas and police dramas, and so yesterday I was scanning three.

1141
00:59:20,373 --> 00:59:22,373
Speaker 3: I was trying desperately trying to find it. Go this

1142
00:59:22,453 --> 00:59:23,893
Speaker 3: is a bit of me, and I couldn't find anywhere.

1143
00:59:23,933 --> 00:59:26,253
Speaker 3: So that makes me feel good. So that's tomorrow. If

1144
00:59:26,293 --> 00:59:28,533
Speaker 3: you need a break from the Olympics, you could sit

1145
00:59:28,573 --> 00:59:30,413
Speaker 3: down and watch it. You know, it's really interesting horror

1146
00:59:30,453 --> 00:59:32,453
Speaker 3: because you've got two great shows here from free to

1147
00:59:32,493 --> 00:59:38,453
Speaker 3: air services that offer, you know, screening services, on demand services.

1148
00:59:38,853 --> 00:59:41,053
Speaker 3: I just think TV and Z plus and three Now

1149
00:59:41,253 --> 00:59:44,173
Speaker 3: are really growing in what they are offering us or

1150
00:59:44,213 --> 00:59:45,373
Speaker 3: am I just imagining that?

1151
00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:46,493
Speaker 7: No?

1152
00:59:46,573 --> 00:59:49,373
Speaker 17: Absolutely, I think TVNZ plus particularly is one of the

1153
00:59:49,413 --> 00:59:52,653
Speaker 17: stronger streaming services is and they've been adding recently a

1154
00:59:52,653 --> 00:59:57,093
Speaker 17: lot of really great movies to their form as well,

1155
00:59:57,093 --> 01:00:00,253
Speaker 17: lots of great New Zealand content too. And three Now

1156
01:00:00,573 --> 01:00:02,773
Speaker 17: over the last few months have been adding a lot

1157
01:00:02,853 --> 01:00:05,453
Speaker 17: of great a lot more British dramas, a lot sort

1158
01:00:05,453 --> 01:00:09,693
Speaker 17: of intriguing murder mysteries and things. So they're both really great,

1159
01:00:09,733 --> 01:00:12,653
Speaker 17: great options. You don't need to pay a lot of

1160
01:00:12,653 --> 01:00:16,973
Speaker 17: money to to have really good options with streaming services.

1161
01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:18,573
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing they need to because they

1162
01:00:18,573 --> 01:00:20,613
Speaker 3: need to compete with those. But no, I'm really enjoying

1163
01:00:20,613 --> 01:00:22,733
Speaker 3: what they have to offer. Tara a pleasure as always.

1164
01:00:22,773 --> 01:00:24,773
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We will put Tara's picks up

1165
01:00:24,773 --> 01:00:28,453
Speaker 3: on our website Newstalk ZB dot co dot nz Ford

1166
01:00:28,493 --> 01:00:32,053
Speaker 3: slash Jack, those three shows who was talking about prosper

1167
01:00:32,293 --> 01:00:34,733
Speaker 3: TV and Z plus Women in Blue is on Apple

1168
01:00:34,733 --> 01:00:37,133
Speaker 3: TV and The Red King is kicking off tomorrow on

1169
01:00:37,533 --> 01:00:38,093
Speaker 3: three Now.

1170
01:00:38,333 --> 01:00:44,853
Speaker 2: It is twenty eight to eleven, Getting your weekends started.

1171
01:00:45,053 --> 01:00:48,613
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack team on news Talk ZEDB.

1172
01:00:49,613 --> 01:00:51,013
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think.

1173
01:00:52,573 --> 01:00:57,293
Speaker 18: They nice ways been thinking.

1174
01:00:57,053 --> 01:00:59,893
Speaker 9: Pal can make you happy.

1175
01:01:01,493 --> 01:01:02,853
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think.

1176
01:01:04,853 --> 01:01:09,093
Speaker 18: Nice ways facing.

1177
01:01:10,373 --> 01:01:11,933
Speaker 9: Can thank you happy.

1178
01:01:12,213 --> 01:01:18,173
Speaker 10: Now usually as TV so we never think about you.

1179
01:01:18,533 --> 01:01:23,653
Speaker 3: This is Glass Animals. They've found runaway success with this

1180
01:01:23,813 --> 01:01:27,053
Speaker 3: single heat Waves in twenty twenty. I'm sure you're thinking yep, no,

1181
01:01:27,173 --> 01:01:31,253
Speaker 3: this one. The song currently has three billion streams on

1182
01:01:31,293 --> 01:01:34,213
Speaker 3: Spotify alone. It became the longest charting song on the

1183
01:01:34,253 --> 01:01:38,293
Speaker 3: Billboard Hot one hundred. So the British band's trademark fusion

1184
01:01:38,333 --> 01:01:41,213
Speaker 3: of indie rock, R and B and pop combines personal

1185
01:01:41,293 --> 01:01:48,053
Speaker 3: songwriting worth existential sonics, and they have been hugely successful.

1186
01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:51,893
Speaker 3: Their new album has been hotly anticipated and our music

1187
01:01:51,933 --> 01:01:54,853
Speaker 3: reviewer is Stelle Clifford. She has given the album and

1188
01:01:54,893 --> 01:01:57,893
Speaker 3: listen it's called I Love You So effing Much. I

1189
01:01:57,893 --> 01:02:00,053
Speaker 3: think that's how Yep, that's the correct way. I'm going

1190
01:02:00,093 --> 01:02:02,293
Speaker 3: to say that on the radio. You can be a

1191
01:02:02,333 --> 01:02:06,853
Speaker 3: little bit creative as to help what that really title

1192
01:02:06,853 --> 01:02:09,453
Speaker 3: really is. She has had a listen to the album.

1193
01:02:09,533 --> 01:02:11,853
Speaker 3: She's going to tell us how it shapes up before twelve.

1194
01:02:11,933 --> 01:02:14,053
Speaker 3: This is their fourth album. It'd be really interesting to

1195
01:02:14,053 --> 01:02:18,333
Speaker 3: see how it lives up to the past couple of albums. Now,

1196
01:02:18,413 --> 01:02:21,933
Speaker 3: you've probably also heard about the controversy around the purpose

1197
01:02:21,933 --> 01:02:26,173
Speaker 3: built Olympic pool in Paris. There's been some disappointment that

1198
01:02:27,253 --> 01:02:30,413
Speaker 3: more world records haven't been broken. And it comes down

1199
01:02:30,493 --> 01:02:34,093
Speaker 3: to concerns about the depth of the pool. This pool

1200
01:02:34,133 --> 01:02:36,973
Speaker 3: is shallower, It's about three feet shallower than Tokyo, and

1201
01:02:36,973 --> 01:02:39,893
Speaker 3: that has an impact on how the water settles. But

1202
01:02:40,213 --> 01:02:44,013
Speaker 3: tech may also be playing a part and making this

1203
01:02:44,453 --> 01:02:47,773
Speaker 3: a slow pool. So Paul Steinhaus is going to talk

1204
01:02:47,893 --> 01:02:51,293
Speaker 3: us through this next here on Saturday mornings. It is

1205
01:02:51,733 --> 01:02:53,453
Speaker 3: twenty three to eleven.

1206
01:02:53,933 --> 01:02:57,653
Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

1207
01:02:57,333 --> 01:02:59,773
Speaker 21: Breakfast hard to believe that the Transpower Piland story, isn't

1208
01:02:59,773 --> 01:03:02,333
Speaker 21: it two workers, no training under the bolts to tower falls,

1209
01:03:02,373 --> 01:03:04,613
Speaker 21: ober Power goes out. They didn't get proper supervision either.

1210
01:03:04,693 --> 01:03:07,333
Speaker 21: So now we presumably talk about compensation or do we northern'

1211
01:03:07,453 --> 01:03:08,733
Speaker 21: MP grant the collums.

1212
01:03:08,453 --> 01:03:09,213
Speaker 7: Whether us give you time?

1213
01:03:09,253 --> 01:03:09,613
Speaker 2: You hear it.

1214
01:03:09,653 --> 01:03:11,933
Speaker 7: You just wonder how this possibly happened exactly.

1215
01:03:11,933 --> 01:03:14,733
Speaker 21: But the report says the compensation part of the question

1216
01:03:14,893 --> 01:03:17,813
Speaker 21: was not in their purview. Who owns and runs with this?

1217
01:03:17,973 --> 01:03:20,573
Speaker 7: Now, people like myself and sit down on Transpound say,

1218
01:03:20,613 --> 01:03:22,733
Speaker 7: actually you owe the people of Norton's on.

1219
01:03:22,813 --> 01:03:23,613
Speaker 2: Anger out there.

1220
01:03:23,653 --> 01:03:25,813
Speaker 7: You've heard it from the business community, and actually the

1221
01:03:25,813 --> 01:03:28,493
Speaker 7: wider community, which has been my pitch yet a decent

1222
01:03:28,613 --> 01:03:31,133
Speaker 7: check from Transpower which we can use the benefit all

1223
01:03:31,173 --> 01:03:33,173
Speaker 7: of Northland because everybody was affected.

1224
01:03:33,533 --> 01:03:36,573
Speaker 21: Back Monday from six am, the mic asking Breakfast with

1225
01:03:36,653 --> 01:03:38,693
Speaker 21: the Rain drove the laugh News Talk z B.

1226
01:03:39,493 --> 01:03:42,573
Speaker 3: You're with Saturday mornings. I'm Francisco with you until midday

1227
01:03:42,653 --> 01:03:44,493
Speaker 3: and it's time to talk tech now and I'm joined

1228
01:03:44,493 --> 01:03:45,493
Speaker 3: by Paul Stenhouse.

1229
01:03:45,533 --> 01:03:48,173
Speaker 2: How are you, Paul, Hey, good morning, doing well.

1230
01:03:48,613 --> 01:03:51,093
Speaker 3: Have you been loving the Olympics? Watching the Olympics?

1231
01:03:51,333 --> 01:03:53,653
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, so I'm in New York and let me

1232
01:03:53,733 --> 01:03:57,853
Speaker 22: just say, basically, no other country on Earth exists when

1233
01:03:57,893 --> 01:04:01,293
Speaker 22: you're watching the coverage of the Olympics in the United States,

1234
01:04:01,333 --> 01:04:03,733
Speaker 22: it's all Team USA, all the time.

1235
01:04:04,253 --> 01:04:07,173
Speaker 3: It's just fel free to jump on iHeart listen to

1236
01:04:07,213 --> 01:04:09,533
Speaker 3: our sports gold boys and they'll be able to filly

1237
01:04:09,613 --> 01:04:12,133
Speaker 3: in with what's happening with the New Zealand Tea occasionally

1238
01:04:12,173 --> 01:04:14,573
Speaker 3: if you need an update. But there's been a bit

1239
01:04:14,613 --> 01:04:19,493
Speaker 3: of controversy around the swimming and whether the French created

1240
01:04:19,533 --> 01:04:23,693
Speaker 3: a slow pool because it's about three feet it's not

1241
01:04:23,773 --> 01:04:25,853
Speaker 3: as deep as the Tokyo Pool, which was about three

1242
01:04:26,213 --> 01:04:28,813
Speaker 3: feet deeper. Than what we have in Paris, and that's

1243
01:04:28,813 --> 01:04:31,733
Speaker 3: been causing a bit of problems with water and movement.

1244
01:04:31,813 --> 01:04:33,653
Speaker 3: But tech has also been playing a part in this.

1245
01:04:34,293 --> 01:04:38,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, because as the TV coverage gets better, they want

1246
01:04:38,173 --> 01:04:42,173
Speaker 22: more what cameras, and there are more cameras underwater than

1247
01:04:42,493 --> 01:04:46,053
Speaker 22: probably ever before, and they move like robots. And they're

1248
01:04:46,053 --> 01:04:49,053
Speaker 22: saying that not only as part of the problem obviously

1249
01:04:49,133 --> 01:04:52,653
Speaker 22: that the pool is shallower. You know, the minimum jets

1250
01:04:52,693 --> 01:04:54,293
Speaker 22: now is two point five meters that they want a

1251
01:04:54,333 --> 01:04:56,613
Speaker 22: pull to be. The recommendation is over three. This one's

1252
01:04:56,653 --> 01:04:59,053
Speaker 22: only just over two meters deep, two point one five

1253
01:04:59,173 --> 01:05:03,413
Speaker 22: meters in fact. But these cameras are moving around and

1254
01:05:03,613 --> 01:05:06,613
Speaker 22: adding to the choppiness of the water, and the water

1255
01:05:06,693 --> 01:05:09,973
Speaker 22: is becoming so choppy that the water doesn't settle between

1256
01:05:10,053 --> 01:05:12,933
Speaker 22: races as you would typically expect it to, So then

1257
01:05:12,973 --> 01:05:14,853
Speaker 22: you get chop upon chop and it's sort of a

1258
01:05:14,893 --> 01:05:15,933
Speaker 22: compounding problem.

1259
01:05:17,893 --> 01:05:19,773
Speaker 3: And so the underwater camera is how much movement are

1260
01:05:19,773 --> 01:05:22,893
Speaker 3: they adding to the to the mix aside from the swimmers,

1261
01:05:22,893 --> 01:05:25,693
Speaker 3: because they're making obviously they're probably responsible for the majority

1262
01:05:25,733 --> 01:05:26,893
Speaker 3: of the movement, aren't they.

1263
01:05:27,253 --> 01:05:30,573
Speaker 22: Yes, yes, I think it's just another finger being pointed right,

1264
01:05:30,573 --> 01:05:32,853
Speaker 22: as just like another factor. But can we talk about

1265
01:05:32,853 --> 01:05:36,173
Speaker 22: the fact that this swimming pool is a huge feet

1266
01:05:36,213 --> 01:05:40,373
Speaker 22: of engineering, like that's teken upon itself, right, It's basically

1267
01:05:40,453 --> 01:05:44,933
Speaker 22: freestanding inside a stadium and for the first time we

1268
01:05:45,013 --> 01:05:48,133
Speaker 22: have ends and teens and tens of thousands of people,

1269
01:05:48,253 --> 01:05:51,653
Speaker 22: significantly more people in watching the swimming than ever before,

1270
01:05:52,373 --> 01:05:54,533
Speaker 22: and some of the swimmers have said that they have

1271
01:05:54,653 --> 01:05:58,653
Speaker 22: loved it. The crowd's vigor, it's noisier, they can even

1272
01:05:58,733 --> 01:06:01,173
Speaker 22: hear the crowd underwater. It's fun to watch.

1273
01:06:01,213 --> 01:06:06,133
Speaker 3: I think they've got a solar panel farm on the roof. Actally, yeah,

1274
01:06:06,133 --> 01:06:07,773
Speaker 3: I think think so, I think. I think it's all

1275
01:06:07,813 --> 01:06:10,413
Speaker 3: being you know, they're using the soul energy to run

1276
01:06:10,453 --> 01:06:13,053
Speaker 3: it and things and so look, apart from the fact

1277
01:06:13,093 --> 01:06:16,653
Speaker 3: that it was just built slightly different depth than everybody

1278
01:06:16,733 --> 01:06:19,773
Speaker 3: would have liked, it's also here and really started building

1279
01:06:19,773 --> 01:06:22,373
Speaker 3: it in twenty seventeen. Well, you do have to get

1280
01:06:22,493 --> 01:06:23,973
Speaker 3: you do have to get organized if you're going to

1281
01:06:23,973 --> 01:06:25,533
Speaker 3: hold the Olympics, don't you. But it does remind me

1282
01:06:25,573 --> 01:06:27,573
Speaker 3: a little bit of I don't know if anyone ever

1283
01:06:27,613 --> 01:06:29,613
Speaker 3: saw it, but there was a satirical comedy that came

1284
01:06:29,653 --> 01:06:32,293
Speaker 3: out just before the two thousand Olympics, called The Games,

1285
01:06:32,573 --> 01:06:34,493
Speaker 3: and it starred New Zealand to John Clark, and it

1286
01:06:34,533 --> 01:06:36,413
Speaker 3: was absolutely hilarious. It was kind of like behind the

1287
01:06:36,413 --> 01:06:38,653
Speaker 3: scenes of a city getting ready for the Olympics and

1288
01:06:38,733 --> 01:06:40,773
Speaker 3: doing just this building all these things. And they built

1289
01:06:40,773 --> 01:06:44,133
Speaker 3: one hundred meter track, but it wasn't quite a hundred meters,

1290
01:06:44,293 --> 01:06:46,893
Speaker 3: as you can imagine. That was hilarious. Anyway, let's move

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Speaker 3: on to Apple Intelligence. Developers are getting their first look

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Speaker 3: at this.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, so Apple, I don't know if you can hear

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01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:55,573
Speaker 22: the thunder out here, but there's a rather wild storm

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Speaker 22: rolling through New York City, man, But yeah, craziness. It's

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Speaker 22: been very hot and humand and this is what happens

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Speaker 22: at the end of the day. But the reviews are

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Speaker 22: coming in and they're only okay. Basically, Apple puts out

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Speaker 22: the developer releases ahead of the big launchers, and not

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Speaker 22: all of the promised features have actually been delivered yet.

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Speaker 22: One reviewer just basically called it a slightly smartest sery,

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Speaker 22: which isn't a great sign yet. But there is apparently

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01:07:18,853 --> 01:07:21,053
Speaker 22: still more to come, and there's sort of AI sprinkled

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Speaker 22: throughout the Apple apps in the mail app. For example,

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Speaker 22: there's a new section at the top of the inbox.

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Speaker 22: The AI goes in and looks at what might be

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Speaker 22: important and brings that up to the top for you.

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Speaker 22: There's a summarization button, so you can push that and

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Speaker 22: it will give you all of your emails summarized.

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Speaker 15: And there's also some features.

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Speaker 22: If you highlight text, you can then go to writing

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Speaker 22: tools and have the AI do things like proofreading or

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01:07:44,773 --> 01:07:50,333
Speaker 22: making suggestions or summaries, pretty standard AI fear these days.

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Speaker 22: In photos, this is actually pretty neat. You can actually

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Speaker 22: just type things that you want to find, like you

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Speaker 22: could say, for example, show me Francesca in a blue

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01:07:58,573 --> 01:08:00,893
Speaker 22: hat at the Eiffel Tower, and it will actually go

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Speaker 22: in and find all of those things. With the reviewers

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Speaker 22: are saying pretty good accuracy, which.

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Speaker 15: Is quite nice.

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Speaker 3: So when can we expect this in use?

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Speaker 22: Wow, that's the hard part, right. So these features they

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Speaker 22: believe will be in for the release of the new

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Speaker 22: operating system which comes out with the new phone. But

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Speaker 22: the fancy of features, there's reports that it may not

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Speaker 22: actually make the deadline to be included with the new phone,

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Speaker 22: so you'd have to buy a new phone and then

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Speaker 22: you'd have to go and do your update to get

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Speaker 22: the latest stuff. There is some very cool tech that

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Speaker 22: Apple can actually wirelessly update the operating system while the

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Speaker 22: phone is still in the box, completely unopened. Kind of cool.

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Speaker 22: So they may go through that process. Otherwise you may

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Speaker 22: have to do the update.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Paul. Good to catch up with you.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you go and watch that thunderstorm roll past

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Speaker 3: out the window. Coming up next to. Ed McKnight is

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Speaker 3: with us and he's got some good news for our homeowners.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a mortgage. It is a fifteen to

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Speaker 3: eleven no better way.

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Speaker 1: To kick off your weekend than with Francesco Saturday Morning

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Speaker 1: with Francesca Rudgin in for jactaim and Be pure quality

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Speaker 1: supplements for Esenial Energy News Talks that.

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Speaker 3: Be and it is time to talk money. And joining

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Speaker 3: me now is Ed McKnight from Opie's Partners. And there

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Speaker 3: might be some good news on the horionas on the

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Speaker 3: horizon for homeowner's Ed.

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Speaker 11: There is and it's all to do with the income

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Speaker 11: side of your mortgage application and the impact of it

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Speaker 11: is that first home buyers, investors and anybody looking to

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Speaker 11: take out a lot at a loan might find it

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Speaker 11: slightly easier. And it's not even just on the horizon,

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Speaker 11: it's already happened. So, for example, we've just had National's

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Speaker 11: tax cuts come in, and that gives some people twenty

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Speaker 11: dollars a week extra in their pocket. Well, if both

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Speaker 11: you and your partner get that twenty dollars a week,

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Speaker 11: and you're a first home buyer, that could help your

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Speaker 11: mortgage application. But to the tune of about twenty two

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Speaker 11: thousand dollars. So if you're a bit tight on income,

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Speaker 11: that's what's stopping the bank from giving you a mortgage.

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Speaker 11: Might help you out a little bit there. For investors

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Speaker 11: slightly more, that same twenty dollars a week each for

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Speaker 11: a couple, that could give you an extra thirty two

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Speaker 11: thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: So is there any other criteria around getting a mortgage

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01:10:18,653 --> 01:10:19,493
Speaker 3: changing at the moment?

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because, of course,

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Speaker 11: there are two sides to a mortgage application. You've got

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Speaker 11: to have enough deposit and you've got to have enough income,

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Speaker 11: and the tax can't certainly help the income side. On

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Speaker 11: the deposit side, though the Reserve Bank has changed some

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Speaker 11: of the rules. I think it was later earlier this month,

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Speaker 11: maybe the month before that just went that first time buyers,

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Speaker 11: a few more of them will be able to get

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Speaker 11: lower deposits. So that means that it's a bit more

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Speaker 11: likely that they'll be able to get a mortgage with

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Speaker 11: a ten percent deposit. One other change that I want

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Speaker 11: to highlight that literally happens this week is that when

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Speaker 11: you put in your mortgage application, the bank's not going

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Speaker 11: to see if you can afford it based on the

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Speaker 11: interest rate you're actually going to pay, which might be

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Speaker 11: call it six and a half percent. Up until recently,

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Speaker 11: they've been testing your mortgage application at nine percent. Well

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Speaker 11: that's all changed this week. It's come down by a

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Speaker 11: little bit. And the impact is that for a first

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Speaker 11: home buyer, if you could borrow five hundred k before,

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Speaker 11: you're now going to be able to afford an extra

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Speaker 11: eleven k. And for an investor, it's about in an

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Speaker 11: extra eighteen grand.

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Speaker 3: So ed, why were they calculating that on such a

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Speaker 3: high rate to begin with, Well, the.

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Speaker 11: Banks want to make sure that even if interest rates

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Speaker 11: go up, that you can still afford that mortgage. And

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Speaker 11: that's really important. We've seen why that's so important recently.

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Speaker 11: You know, back when interest rates were two point two

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Speaker 11: two point three percent, the banks we're using about a

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Speaker 11: six percent what we call a test rate, and that's

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Speaker 11: just to make sure that as interest rates go up

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Speaker 11: and they have recently, that you'd still be able to

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Speaker 11: make those mortgage payments and that you wouldn't have to

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Speaker 11: go to mortgage g sales. So it's very important that

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01:11:58,093 --> 01:12:00,453
Speaker 11: the banks do this. But now that they're seeing those

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01:12:00,493 --> 01:12:03,293
Speaker 11: interest rates come down, they're starting to say, hey, we

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Speaker 11: can use a lower test rate.

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Speaker 3: Have the goldfarenough with these changes? Do you think?

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01:12:09,493 --> 01:12:12,853
Speaker 11: Well, I'm looking forward to seeing some more changes. I

1406
01:12:12,853 --> 01:12:16,053
Speaker 11: think we'd all like to see those test rates even lower.

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Speaker 11: But the banks need to be cautious, and it's important

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01:12:18,493 --> 01:12:20,773
Speaker 11: that they are. There are some other changes coming on

1409
01:12:20,813 --> 01:12:23,933
Speaker 11: the horizon, the triple CSA. That's the law that do

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01:12:23,973 --> 01:12:27,293
Speaker 11: you remember back on a couple of years ago, we

1411
01:12:27,293 --> 01:12:30,373
Speaker 11: had all of these articles about if you spent too

1412
01:12:30,413 --> 01:12:33,133
Speaker 11: much on coffee, or you spent too much on Uber each.

1413
01:12:33,053 --> 01:12:35,293
Speaker 3: I've got too many streaming services?

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01:12:35,493 --> 01:12:37,333
Speaker 5: Ed, oh, do you know what?

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01:12:37,413 --> 01:12:40,653
Speaker 11: I was applied for bockets the other day FORCESCA and

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01:12:40,813 --> 01:12:43,253
Speaker 11: the walk broker comes back to me and says, can

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01:12:43,293 --> 01:12:46,613
Speaker 11: you please explain the nature of these expenses, and one

1418
01:12:46,653 --> 01:12:48,613
Speaker 11: of them was Netflix, and I said, I'm not sure

1419
01:12:48,653 --> 01:12:53,573
Speaker 11: what you want me to explain straight, but we are

1420
01:12:53,693 --> 01:12:56,813
Speaker 11: sex of changes already come and west Pax loosen some

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01:12:56,853 --> 01:13:00,293
Speaker 11: of the criteria specifically for investors. That means an investor

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01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:03,013
Speaker 11: might be able to borrow extra eighty thousand dollars. I'm

1423
01:13:03,053 --> 01:13:05,813
Speaker 11: looking forward to seeing some changes once the law is

1424
01:13:05,893 --> 01:13:08,973
Speaker 11: actually will the updated laws actually passed, that's going to

1425
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Speaker 11: be really good for the first time buyers.

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Speaker 23: Ed.

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01:13:11,373 --> 01:13:13,533
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your thoughts this morning. Appreciate it.

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01:13:14,013 --> 01:13:18,893
Speaker 3: Thanks right now, blossom is out on trees at our

1429
01:13:18,933 --> 01:13:21,093
Speaker 3: house and the tooy are back, and I'm going to

1430
01:13:21,173 --> 01:13:23,253
Speaker 3: be honest, sitting at my desk looking out on a

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01:13:23,253 --> 01:13:26,653
Speaker 3: gray wintry day, it is so lovely to see the

1432
01:13:26,653 --> 01:13:28,573
Speaker 3: toy in the tree. They are welcome sight. They put

1433
01:13:28,613 --> 01:13:30,893
Speaker 3: a smile on your face. Rude Climb Past is with

1434
01:13:30,933 --> 01:13:33,413
Speaker 3: me next with some other ideas for getting a winter

1435
01:13:33,573 --> 01:13:35,733
Speaker 3: pick me up from the garden. That's next here on

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01:13:35,813 --> 01:13:39,373
Speaker 3: Saturday mornings your news Talks. He'd be nine to eleven.

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01:13:39,933 --> 01:13:43,773
Speaker 1: Gardening with still shop free accessories this winter at steal Shop.

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01:13:44,893 --> 01:13:46,653
Speaker 3: Rude Climb Past good morning.

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01:13:47,013 --> 01:13:47,893
Speaker 16: Hey, good morning.

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01:13:48,013 --> 01:13:49,373
Speaker 2: Where have you been all this time?

1441
01:13:51,813 --> 01:13:54,933
Speaker 3: Sitting at home? One in the Olympacks. And I'm sure

1442
01:13:56,013 --> 01:13:58,253
Speaker 3: normally I confuse everybody when I come in and fill

1443
01:13:58,293 --> 01:13:59,933
Speaker 3: in projet because they all walk in and they see me,

1444
01:14:00,133 --> 01:14:02,173
Speaker 3: and they go, is it Sunday?

1445
01:14:02,213 --> 01:14:02,533
Speaker 2: No, no, no.

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01:14:02,773 --> 01:14:05,453
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's not Sunday. It's still Saturday. I promise.

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01:14:06,253 --> 01:14:08,613
Speaker 3: I am so delighted with your topic today because, as

1448
01:14:08,613 --> 01:14:10,853
Speaker 3: I was just saying before the break, I've been sitting

1449
01:14:10,973 --> 01:14:13,213
Speaker 3: we've just had gray, miserable days and all kind of

1450
01:14:13,333 --> 01:14:16,013
Speaker 3: just around, very wintery. And this week we've got you know,

1451
01:14:16,093 --> 01:14:18,853
Speaker 3: we're very our gardens, very confused. We've got a lot

1452
01:14:18,893 --> 01:14:21,933
Speaker 3: of blossom out, and the toy aband and oh just

1453
01:14:22,253 --> 01:14:25,653
Speaker 3: big gorgeous toy and the bird song and it just

1454
01:14:25,653 --> 01:14:27,333
Speaker 3: just put a smile on your face, just lists you,

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01:14:27,373 --> 01:14:27,853
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

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01:14:28,653 --> 01:14:31,173
Speaker 16: You've got it, And that's exactly what it's about. I've

1457
01:14:31,213 --> 01:14:33,893
Speaker 16: actually noticed how when we had this, all this great

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01:14:33,973 --> 01:14:37,453
Speaker 16: stuff going on, there was very little things to lift

1459
01:14:37,493 --> 01:14:41,293
Speaker 16: you up. So so it was actually interesting because I came,

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01:14:41,333 --> 01:14:43,973
Speaker 16: I drove home from the city. I think I can't remember,

1461
01:14:44,253 --> 01:14:45,693
Speaker 16: and I thought, you know, what am I going to do?

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Speaker 16: And I thought, and there was odor rings to one

1463
01:14:48,093 --> 01:14:51,173
Speaker 16: of the places where I go buy plants now, and

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01:14:51,253 --> 01:14:54,213
Speaker 16: so I just screamed into the into the site there

1465
01:14:54,293 --> 01:14:56,413
Speaker 16: pack my car and just had a look what was

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01:14:56,533 --> 01:15:01,813
Speaker 16: actually interesting at the moment, and I was amazed, amazed,

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Speaker 16: which so many good things. Well, I found maples, ye, maples,

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01:15:06,733 --> 01:15:09,133
Speaker 16: and there's so I've got all the stuff. Let me

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01:15:09,173 --> 01:15:10,453
Speaker 16: just put them all on the on the wet side

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Speaker 16: and so you can ever look at it. There was,

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Speaker 16: for instance, a maple with bright red stems in the

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Speaker 16: winter time, absolutely wonderful as sen khaki cold thing. And

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01:15:20,853 --> 01:15:23,213
Speaker 16: then when I came home later I saw another maple

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Speaker 16: called grizsium, which is the paperback maple that has this

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01:15:26,693 --> 01:15:30,973
Speaker 16: amazing if you like, back that flutters off in the

1476
01:15:31,013 --> 01:15:35,013
Speaker 16: sunlight and it's back lit in this coppery orange color,

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Speaker 16: just beautiful. It's called arsa grisium, which is crazily crazy

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01:15:39,093 --> 01:15:42,453
Speaker 16: word in Latin because grizsium means gray, and that's probably

1479
01:15:42,453 --> 01:15:44,013
Speaker 16: to do with the fact that the leaves are gray.

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01:15:44,013 --> 01:15:44,973
Speaker 16: But that's not the story.

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01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:46,453
Speaker 3: Is that bark peeling now?

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01:15:47,173 --> 01:15:50,413
Speaker 16: Yes, it's peeling now, and it and it makes the

1483
01:15:50,813 --> 01:15:52,213
Speaker 16: if you see it you'll see it. You'll see the

1484
01:15:52,213 --> 01:15:54,733
Speaker 16: photo on the website if you see it sticking out

1485
01:15:54,893 --> 01:15:58,573
Speaker 16: in random sort of manners, if you like it looks

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01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:02,933
Speaker 16: absolutely alive. That's one of my favorite trees, by the way, Grisium.

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Speaker 16: And I'm not talking about natives. These are all all

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01:16:06,573 --> 01:16:10,013
Speaker 16: Japanese or North American trees. And but I just thought

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01:16:10,493 --> 01:16:13,373
Speaker 16: that is sometimes where your heart springs, and you know,

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01:16:13,413 --> 01:16:15,933
Speaker 16: a step and says, this is it great stuff?

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01:16:16,093 --> 01:16:17,533
Speaker 3: What about if you're a little bit.

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Speaker 16: Of color Erica Erica, that is Erica, which is I

1493
01:16:22,573 --> 01:16:25,213
Speaker 16: know that from the Netherlands as heather or heath or

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01:16:25,253 --> 01:16:28,253
Speaker 16: in Natalan's we call it de hay. And this is

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01:16:28,293 --> 01:16:31,573
Speaker 16: absolutely beautiful because it's flowers right now in mid to

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01:16:31,733 --> 01:16:34,333
Speaker 16: late winter, and it's the place, of course where all

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01:16:34,413 --> 01:16:38,333
Speaker 16: the pollinators that are still around can get their nectar.

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01:16:38,613 --> 01:16:40,573
Speaker 16: This is important. I look at this too, as you

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Speaker 16: can imagine. So so that's that's a cool one to

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Speaker 16: heaven in your garden. Go never look at Erica.

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01:16:46,693 --> 01:16:47,453
Speaker 2: Then I found, of.

1502
01:16:47,413 --> 01:16:50,573
Speaker 16: Course Daphne's and hellebores and osmantors and those things are

1503
01:16:50,693 --> 01:16:54,293
Speaker 16: always there there. Everybody's got them, everybody knows them. But

1504
01:16:54,453 --> 01:16:58,453
Speaker 16: don't underrate them. They are beautiful. It's just a good

1505
01:16:58,573 --> 01:17:01,333
Speaker 16: thing to look for right now. And then I went

1506
01:17:01,373 --> 01:17:04,573
Speaker 16: to some of the native things that you know, I

1507
01:17:04,613 --> 01:17:09,013
Speaker 16: always have to go back to native libercia, beregrants, or

1508
01:17:09,053 --> 01:17:13,453
Speaker 16: okia which is the genies ghost and frosted chocolate. These

1509
01:17:13,573 --> 01:17:19,453
Speaker 16: are absolutely colorful, almost hedgy plants, especially the karakia, and

1510
01:17:19,533 --> 01:17:23,293
Speaker 16: that means that your hedges can be bright reddish orange

1511
01:17:23,373 --> 01:17:23,973
Speaker 16: at the moment.

1512
01:17:24,333 --> 01:17:25,693
Speaker 2: I liked that idea.

1513
01:17:25,973 --> 01:17:26,493
Speaker 7: I like that.

1514
01:17:26,773 --> 01:17:29,533
Speaker 3: And you also made the suggestion of hoito you a

1515
01:17:29,533 --> 01:17:32,413
Speaker 3: little peppery, a little bit of a peppery taste.

1516
01:17:32,973 --> 01:17:34,693
Speaker 16: Not only that you can use it, you know, of

1517
01:17:34,693 --> 01:17:37,933
Speaker 16: course as a culinary thing, but horopito is also one

1518
01:17:37,933 --> 01:17:41,893
Speaker 16: of those unexpected beautiful things that goes into red yellows,

1519
01:17:41,933 --> 01:17:44,213
Speaker 16: greens and all. And the best place to see in

1520
01:17:44,293 --> 01:17:46,453
Speaker 16: and I'm not going to tell Auckland, is that the

1521
01:17:46,453 --> 01:17:48,573
Speaker 16: best place to see mister Catlin's.

1522
01:17:48,453 --> 01:17:52,533
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Rhodes. You'll be very shortly your Saturday.

1523
01:17:52,133 --> 01:18:02,173
Speaker 1: Mornings Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jactaim, keeping

1524
01:18:02,213 --> 01:18:06,093
Speaker 1: the conversation going through the weekends with deep pure policies

1525
01:18:06,133 --> 01:18:07,613
Speaker 1: of the it's for a sedul Energy.

1526
01:18:07,773 --> 01:18:50,653
Speaker 2: News Talk said B.

1527
01:18:30,893 --> 01:18:34,013
Speaker 3: Good morning. This is Saturday Mornings. I'm Francesca Rudkins filling

1528
01:18:34,053 --> 01:18:36,293
Speaker 3: in for Jack. He'll be back next week. He's taking

1529
01:18:36,293 --> 01:18:40,173
Speaker 3: a holiday this week. It is seven past eleven this

1530
01:18:40,333 --> 01:18:42,773
Speaker 3: hour on Saturday Mornings. Mike Yardy is going to take

1531
01:18:42,813 --> 01:18:46,133
Speaker 3: us to Malta. We get Estelle's thoughts on the latest

1532
01:18:46,173 --> 01:18:49,733
Speaker 3: Glass Animals album, and Catherine talks us through New Zealand

1533
01:18:49,773 --> 01:18:53,133
Speaker 3: author J. P. Pomare's latest novel.

1534
01:18:54,013 --> 01:18:56,893
Speaker 2: News Talk said, B, joining me now though.

1535
01:18:56,933 --> 01:19:00,613
Speaker 3: It's Kate Hall, also also known as ethically Kate on

1536
01:19:00,733 --> 01:19:04,733
Speaker 3: all her socials. Good morning, Kate, good morning, Hi, good

1537
01:19:04,813 --> 01:19:07,333
Speaker 3: thank you. You've got a really interest in topic today

1538
01:19:07,453 --> 01:19:11,413
Speaker 3: because we can't live without technology, can we? Well, we could,

1539
01:19:11,773 --> 01:19:15,253
Speaker 3: we have in the past, and some community and some

1540
01:19:15,293 --> 01:19:18,493
Speaker 3: communities Kate still choose to live without technology, but most

1541
01:19:18,493 --> 01:19:21,213
Speaker 3: of us can see the convenience it brings to our lives.

1542
01:19:21,533 --> 01:19:23,693
Speaker 3: But it does have an impact, doesn't it.

1543
01:19:24,533 --> 01:19:27,493
Speaker 14: Yeah, totally. I think, you know, I call myself ethically

1544
01:19:27,573 --> 01:19:29,973
Speaker 14: case and a lot of people say, well, you know

1545
01:19:30,093 --> 01:19:33,413
Speaker 14: about your phone that you're using to share all this

1546
01:19:33,493 --> 01:19:36,533
Speaker 14: sustainable living stuff, and there's a whole lot of complexity

1547
01:19:36,613 --> 01:19:41,213
Speaker 14: around supply chains of our technology, not just our phones

1548
01:19:41,213 --> 01:19:45,013
Speaker 14: that we're talking about, our computers and all the appliances

1549
01:19:45,173 --> 01:19:48,813
Speaker 14: and our kitchen, like, everything comes with some sort of impact,

1550
01:19:49,253 --> 01:19:51,813
Speaker 14: and I think you're right, we're very, very dependent on it.

1551
01:19:51,893 --> 01:19:54,933
Speaker 14: So I think rather than just saying, you know, throw

1552
01:19:54,973 --> 01:19:58,813
Speaker 14: your phones away and live without technology, it's important to

1553
01:19:58,853 --> 01:20:04,413
Speaker 14: think about, Okay, what can I do better to engage

1554
01:20:04,413 --> 01:20:06,013
Speaker 14: in technology in a more sustainable way?

1555
01:20:06,373 --> 01:20:08,413
Speaker 3: What do we do about the cell phone?

1556
01:20:08,733 --> 01:20:13,693
Speaker 14: So I think first and foremost it's important to look

1557
01:20:13,733 --> 01:20:17,573
Speaker 14: after your technology really well. I think there's there's a

1558
01:20:17,653 --> 01:20:20,493
Speaker 14: lot of talk. Obviously we can think about the supply

1559
01:20:20,653 --> 01:20:23,933
Speaker 14: chain of a cell phone, right the minerals that are involved,

1560
01:20:24,053 --> 01:20:29,653
Speaker 14: often mind unethically. You know, that's finite resources that are

1561
01:20:29,693 --> 01:20:32,853
Speaker 14: being used to make a phone. So if we do

1562
01:20:32,893 --> 01:20:34,573
Speaker 14: have a phone in our lives, you know a lot

1563
01:20:34,653 --> 01:20:36,973
Speaker 14: of a lot of people already have an original phone.

1564
01:20:37,013 --> 01:20:39,533
Speaker 14: And I'm not saying, you know, throw that out and

1565
01:20:39,773 --> 01:20:43,053
Speaker 14: buy a sustainably made one, but to look after it carefully,

1566
01:20:43,133 --> 01:20:45,853
Speaker 14: you know, to have a good case for it, to

1567
01:20:46,133 --> 01:20:50,613
Speaker 14: clean it to you know, when you're charging it, there's

1568
01:20:50,653 --> 01:20:53,653
Speaker 14: an optimum charging range of keeping it between kind of

1569
01:20:53,693 --> 01:20:56,053
Speaker 14: like fifty to seventy percent and not just leaving it

1570
01:20:56,053 --> 01:20:59,173
Speaker 14: on charge. That's really good for the longevity of a battery.

1571
01:20:59,733 --> 01:21:02,813
Speaker 14: So yeah, looking after it, but then also thinking at

1572
01:21:02,813 --> 01:21:05,253
Speaker 14: the end of its life, not just throwing it in

1573
01:21:05,293 --> 01:21:08,533
Speaker 14: the bin. That is huge concern. It's actually even illegal

1574
01:21:08,573 --> 01:21:13,213
Speaker 14: in Australia to dispose of tech and landfill, so to

1575
01:21:13,333 --> 01:21:17,293
Speaker 14: actually take it to an eway drop off fight or

1576
01:21:17,773 --> 01:21:20,493
Speaker 14: you know, take it to somewhere where they could actually

1577
01:21:20,573 --> 01:21:23,573
Speaker 14: use the parts and refurbish it or fix it. Even

1578
01:21:23,733 --> 01:21:27,173
Speaker 14: I know that sometimes fixing technology can cost more than

1579
01:21:27,173 --> 01:21:30,573
Speaker 14: a new device, which is a great shame, and we're

1580
01:21:30,573 --> 01:21:33,973
Speaker 14: hoping that changes with different to right to repair bills

1581
01:21:34,013 --> 01:21:37,453
Speaker 14: and things like that. But to actually not just dispose

1582
01:21:37,533 --> 01:21:39,973
Speaker 14: of it or move it on just because there is

1583
01:21:40,013 --> 01:21:42,093
Speaker 14: a new phone to actually.

1584
01:21:42,973 --> 01:21:45,933
Speaker 3: We all love shiny new things, really love it. And

1585
01:21:47,013 --> 01:21:49,613
Speaker 3: if the tech companies know how to do one thing,

1586
01:21:49,653 --> 01:21:51,653
Speaker 3: they know how to market to us, they know how

1587
01:21:51,653 --> 01:21:54,453
Speaker 3: to go you know, water, that's a fine phone, the phone.

1588
01:21:54,493 --> 01:21:56,733
Speaker 3: Your phone's working, it's perfectly fine. But look at this

1589
01:21:57,133 --> 01:21:59,133
Speaker 3: and look at what it can do. And then actually

1590
01:21:59,253 --> 01:22:01,213
Speaker 3: we get it and most of us never actually even

1591
01:22:01,253 --> 01:22:03,293
Speaker 3: discover the upgrades that it often.

1592
01:22:04,533 --> 01:22:08,733
Speaker 14: No, absolutely, I mean I personally. The first new phone

1593
01:22:08,773 --> 01:22:13,853
Speaker 14: I purchased was in twenty nineteen, so up until then

1594
01:22:13,893 --> 01:22:17,333
Speaker 14: I had refurbished phones. And the reason I purchased a

1595
01:22:17,373 --> 01:22:20,293
Speaker 14: new phone was because it's the main tool I used

1596
01:22:20,293 --> 01:22:22,573
Speaker 14: for my job. And I thought, you know what, I

1597
01:22:23,013 --> 01:22:25,853
Speaker 14: always refurbished phones weren't doing what I needed it too,

1598
01:22:25,893 --> 01:22:28,613
Speaker 14: because I use a lot of these different functions, right,

1599
01:22:28,693 --> 01:22:30,453
Speaker 14: So I thought, I'm going to get a new phone.

1600
01:22:30,733 --> 01:22:32,573
Speaker 14: It's going to last, I'm going to look after it.

1601
01:22:32,613 --> 01:22:34,813
Speaker 14: So that's a different way to you know, look at

1602
01:22:34,813 --> 01:22:37,773
Speaker 14: things too, is what do you actually need it for?

1603
01:22:38,373 --> 01:22:43,173
Speaker 14: And can you get a simpler, cheaper, you know, model

1604
01:22:43,253 --> 01:22:47,613
Speaker 14: that that you don't have to keep upgrading and just

1605
01:22:47,693 --> 01:22:49,773
Speaker 14: ask yourself, am I buying this because I need it?

1606
01:22:50,413 --> 01:22:53,093
Speaker 14: Or am I buying this because you know, my friend

1607
01:22:53,093 --> 01:22:55,453
Speaker 14: got their latest one and I just want to keep up.

1608
01:22:55,453 --> 01:22:58,453
Speaker 3: It's really interesting though, you mentioned refurbished tech, and we're

1609
01:22:58,493 --> 01:23:01,093
Speaker 3: seeing this more and more now that you know, you know,

1610
01:23:01,373 --> 01:23:02,853
Speaker 3: and a lot of the time people don't want to

1611
01:23:02,853 --> 01:23:04,373
Speaker 3: have to buy a new phone. Something will happened to

1612
01:23:04,413 --> 01:23:07,133
Speaker 3: a phone, you know, they drop it in a poll

1613
01:23:07,213 --> 01:23:09,853
Speaker 3: of the toilet or something happens, and you know, it's

1614
01:23:09,973 --> 01:23:11,853
Speaker 3: irreparable when they go, Okay, I need a new find

1615
01:23:12,093 --> 01:23:14,573
Speaker 3: I'm hearing. But you know, now it's so much easier

1616
01:23:14,573 --> 01:23:17,253
Speaker 3: to go off and find a phone which may have

1617
01:23:17,253 --> 01:23:20,373
Speaker 3: had a small fault someone's you know, decided to sell

1618
01:23:20,413 --> 01:23:22,373
Speaker 3: it to a refurbish it. They fix it up, and

1619
01:23:22,413 --> 01:23:23,933
Speaker 3: it could be perfectly good to go.

1620
01:23:24,733 --> 01:23:27,973
Speaker 14: Definitely we have there's just so many more options now.

1621
01:23:28,053 --> 01:23:31,373
Speaker 14: I remember trying to find a refurbished phone. Yeah, many

1622
01:23:31,413 --> 01:23:34,453
Speaker 14: many years ago. It was quite difficult and with less

1623
01:23:34,453 --> 01:23:36,933
Speaker 14: options come you know, that's kind of hard to find

1624
01:23:36,933 --> 01:23:39,693
Speaker 14: exactly what you want. But now we just if you

1625
01:23:39,733 --> 01:23:42,853
Speaker 14: think about the amount of different models and makes of

1626
01:23:42,893 --> 01:23:46,613
Speaker 14: each brand of phone, there's just unlimited, you know, there's

1627
01:23:46,613 --> 01:23:52,093
Speaker 14: just unlimitless. So so I think, yeah, I think buying

1628
01:23:52,133 --> 01:23:55,973
Speaker 14: new phones and this whole kind of the marketing I

1629
01:23:55,973 --> 01:24:01,293
Speaker 14: think is probably the least sustainable part of technology. So

1630
01:24:01,413 --> 01:24:06,133
Speaker 14: being really, really careful about purchasing, and it's so dangerous

1631
01:24:06,933 --> 01:24:09,253
Speaker 14: going back to the end of life of a phone

1632
01:24:09,653 --> 01:24:13,973
Speaker 14: to put a phone into a landfill site. Actually, we've

1633
01:24:13,973 --> 01:24:18,533
Speaker 14: had lots of recent fires and tracks rubbish tracks sort

1634
01:24:18,533 --> 01:24:21,533
Speaker 14: of collecting our rubbish from the curb side because people

1635
01:24:21,533 --> 01:24:24,333
Speaker 14: are just throwing their phones in there, and the batteries

1636
01:24:24,373 --> 01:24:26,253
Speaker 14: can heat up and be exposed to all sorts of

1637
01:24:26,413 --> 01:24:31,613
Speaker 14: chemicals and yeah, literally set on fire and cost a

1638
01:24:31,613 --> 01:24:33,373
Speaker 14: lot of money to repair those tracks to get them

1639
01:24:33,413 --> 01:24:38,653
Speaker 14: back on the road. So it's complex, the making of

1640
01:24:38,653 --> 01:24:40,653
Speaker 14: a phone and also the end of life. We just

1641
01:24:40,693 --> 01:24:43,253
Speaker 14: need to do so much better as a society.

1642
01:24:43,573 --> 01:24:45,693
Speaker 3: It's interesting. I learned something this week, Kate, which may

1643
01:24:45,813 --> 01:24:47,493
Speaker 3: or may not be of interest to people out there,

1644
01:24:47,533 --> 01:24:49,413
Speaker 3: But I had to get rid of some polystyrene that

1645
01:24:49,453 --> 01:24:53,453
Speaker 3: had come in and a new clothes dry and I

1646
01:24:53,493 --> 01:24:56,253
Speaker 3: got online found out that might ten will take that

1647
01:24:56,573 --> 01:24:58,573
Speaker 3: and dispose of it for you. But then I get

1648
01:24:58,573 --> 01:25:03,213
Speaker 3: to mint Atend to put my polystyrene in the big

1649
01:25:03,253 --> 01:25:07,173
Speaker 3: containers there. They'll take yourself plastics, they'll take your cardboard,

1650
01:25:07,613 --> 01:25:11,933
Speaker 3: they take batteries, they take light bulbs, they're taking they're

1651
01:25:11,933 --> 01:25:15,973
Speaker 3: helping recycle these, you know, these items the way they

1652
01:25:16,013 --> 01:25:18,413
Speaker 3: should be, which is absolutely fantastic. And it's pretty easy

1653
01:25:18,453 --> 01:25:20,653
Speaker 3: to find a mighty tenth as opposed to, as you say,

1654
01:25:21,693 --> 01:25:25,693
Speaker 3: trying to hide it in the and the rummish to

1655
01:25:25,733 --> 01:25:28,053
Speaker 3: head off to them. I thought that make it so.

1656
01:25:28,053 --> 01:25:28,893
Speaker 14: Easy, brilliant.

1657
01:25:29,173 --> 01:25:29,373
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1658
01:25:29,413 --> 01:25:31,453
Speaker 14: And it's so easy when it's all in one place, too,

1659
01:25:31,533 --> 01:25:34,493
Speaker 14: isn't it. Because all of those you know, waste streams

1660
01:25:34,533 --> 01:25:37,893
Speaker 14: that can be recycled or reused that you mentioned, if

1661
01:25:37,893 --> 01:25:39,653
Speaker 14: you had to go, you know, to a different place

1662
01:25:39,693 --> 01:25:42,493
Speaker 14: to drop off all those things, that's quite unaccessible for

1663
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:46,253
Speaker 14: you know, a busy time, poor person, probably.

1664
01:25:46,133 --> 01:25:47,853
Speaker 3: Because I rang them and they probably regretted it. But

1665
01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:49,853
Speaker 3: I just loaded the car. I can cover off a

1666
01:25:49,893 --> 01:25:53,053
Speaker 3: lot of things. So we need to we need to

1667
01:25:53,053 --> 01:25:55,893
Speaker 3: dispose of old tech properly. I also, because I got

1668
01:25:55,893 --> 01:25:58,373
Speaker 3: the new dryer, the old dry which was about fifteen

1669
01:25:58,373 --> 01:26:00,573
Speaker 3: twenty years old, had to be recycled, and I want

1670
01:26:00,613 --> 01:26:02,813
Speaker 3: to make sure that went to somewhere Kate that was

1671
01:26:02,853 --> 01:26:05,093
Speaker 3: going to recycle it, properly, use the metal, use whatever

1672
01:26:05,133 --> 01:26:07,413
Speaker 3: it could. So I found a a waist person. I

1673
01:26:07,413 --> 01:26:10,133
Speaker 3: took it down there, and it's actually just hugely relieved.

1674
01:26:10,133 --> 01:26:11,973
Speaker 3: They were taking off my handcake. But they pay you

1675
01:26:12,013 --> 01:26:14,813
Speaker 3: for your metal. And then they said to me, we don't,

1676
01:26:15,613 --> 01:26:17,573
Speaker 3: we don't really pay a lot for dryers, and I said,

1677
01:26:17,613 --> 01:26:20,813
Speaker 3: that's absolutely fine. I just want to recycled properly, and

1678
01:26:21,373 --> 01:26:23,453
Speaker 3: just thank you for taking it off my hands. I've

1679
01:26:23,453 --> 01:26:29,733
Speaker 3: got two dollars thirty from the dry okay, And I

1680
01:26:29,773 --> 01:26:31,973
Speaker 3: was like, you really need a little charity, but been

1681
01:26:32,133 --> 01:26:35,813
Speaker 3: or something on the top of you, what are you

1682
01:26:35,853 --> 01:26:39,093
Speaker 3: going to down? I don't. I don't think I've been

1683
01:26:39,173 --> 01:26:42,893
Speaker 3: rolling around the bottom of my handbag. But but you know,

1684
01:26:42,973 --> 01:26:46,773
Speaker 3: once again, it's not that hard to find places to

1685
01:26:46,813 --> 01:26:50,733
Speaker 3: recycle your e waste or your anything that's got some

1686
01:26:50,773 --> 01:26:51,733
Speaker 3: sort of technology in it.

1687
01:26:52,693 --> 01:26:55,733
Speaker 14: Absolutely, we've got like Echo and Auckland there's a great

1688
01:26:55,773 --> 01:27:00,613
Speaker 14: place to take all your cables, computers, tech sustainability trusters

1689
01:27:00,613 --> 01:27:03,893
Speaker 14: and Wellington Ecocentral and christ Church like those are kind

1690
01:27:03,893 --> 01:27:06,813
Speaker 14: of the main hubs. But honestly, years ago these companies

1691
01:27:07,133 --> 01:27:09,773
Speaker 14: didn't exist, so they're very small and didn't have the

1692
01:27:09,853 --> 01:27:13,733
Speaker 14: infrastructure to take everything. So yeah, I mean now we

1693
01:27:13,893 --> 01:27:17,053
Speaker 14: kind of there's no excuses really to actually dispose of

1694
01:27:17,093 --> 01:27:20,293
Speaker 14: things properly and keep all of those metals and precious

1695
01:27:20,333 --> 01:27:23,533
Speaker 14: minerals and resources in our resource pool so that we

1696
01:27:23,613 --> 01:27:27,013
Speaker 14: don't have to keep pillaging the earth of finite stuff.

1697
01:27:27,533 --> 01:27:29,413
Speaker 3: Kate, really nice to talk to you this morning. Thank

1698
01:27:29,413 --> 01:27:31,293
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us. You can follow Kate

1699
01:27:31,573 --> 01:27:36,453
Speaker 3: on socials as ethically, Kate, it is a sixteen past

1700
01:27:36,493 --> 01:27:41,013
Speaker 3: eleven now Gladiator two, Murder on the Orient Express, Napoleon,

1701
01:27:41,373 --> 01:27:44,613
Speaker 3: Jurassic World, Dominion, and Assassin's Creed. What do all these

1702
01:27:44,693 --> 01:27:48,813
Speaker 3: films have in common? Well, they were all shot in Malta.

1703
01:27:49,093 --> 01:27:52,893
Speaker 3: They have been shooting films in Malta since the nineteen twenties.

1704
01:27:53,333 --> 01:27:57,653
Speaker 3: And Mike Yardley takes us their next and travel.

1705
01:27:59,573 --> 01:28:03,773
Speaker 1: Travel with Wendy wu Tours, unique fully inclusive tours around

1706
01:28:03,813 --> 01:28:04,293
Speaker 1: the world.

1707
01:28:05,533 --> 01:28:07,533
Speaker 3: Good morning, Mike Yardley.

1708
01:28:07,173 --> 01:28:11,173
Speaker 12: How are you very good? Thank you Francesca, and how

1709
01:28:11,253 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 12: are you? I? Saide from being sleep deprived, do.

1710
01:28:15,173 --> 01:28:16,573
Speaker 3: You know what, I don't even think it's the lack

1711
01:28:16,613 --> 01:28:19,253
Speaker 3: of sleep. I think it's the emotion. I think it's

1712
01:28:19,453 --> 01:28:22,613
Speaker 3: I think it's the tension. I think sometimes I'm sitting

1713
01:28:22,613 --> 01:28:24,293
Speaker 3: there and my body is kind of tensing up and

1714
01:28:24,293 --> 01:28:26,133
Speaker 3: I'm half running the race with them. I think it's

1715
01:28:26,853 --> 01:28:29,533
Speaker 3: That's what's exhausting about watching the Olympics. I mean, Hayden

1716
01:28:29,573 --> 01:28:33,573
Speaker 3: Wild bless that man, but he just almost destroyed me.

1717
01:28:33,733 --> 01:28:35,333
Speaker 3: And that I mean I had to leave the room.

1718
01:28:35,693 --> 01:28:37,613
Speaker 3: Everyone was going, what is she doing? Why can't she?

1719
01:28:37,773 --> 01:28:39,493
Speaker 3: I couldn't sit there. I was in and out and

1720
01:28:39,613 --> 01:28:42,133
Speaker 3: I was going to I was all over the place.

1721
01:28:42,133 --> 01:28:43,893
Speaker 3: So I think it's actually it's not so much the

1722
01:28:43,973 --> 01:28:46,933
Speaker 3: lack of sleep used to lack a sleep. I think

1723
01:28:46,933 --> 01:28:50,373
Speaker 3: it's more just just the emotions that goes quite right.

1724
01:28:51,293 --> 01:28:54,613
Speaker 12: Yeah, some people yesterday and they were feeling the same.

1725
01:28:54,693 --> 01:28:57,653
Speaker 12: They just all felt emotionally spin after.

1726
01:28:59,653 --> 01:29:02,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, I literally looked at him and I said, I

1727
01:29:02,773 --> 01:29:04,373
Speaker 3: feel like I've just run. I feel like I've just

1728
01:29:04,413 --> 01:29:07,213
Speaker 3: done both those trathons. But you know, so sometimes you

1729
01:29:07,333 --> 01:29:10,973
Speaker 3: watch a sport and when they finish, there's smiles and

1730
01:29:11,053 --> 01:29:13,813
Speaker 3: you can see that people actually loved every minute of it.

1731
01:29:13,933 --> 01:29:15,813
Speaker 3: They had fun, they gave it there all. But there's

1732
01:29:15,813 --> 01:29:18,653
Speaker 3: something about the end of the triathlon watching those athletes

1733
01:29:18,653 --> 01:29:21,333
Speaker 3: come over the line, you go, I'm not quite too

1734
01:29:21,333 --> 01:29:22,413
Speaker 3: sure how much fun.

1735
01:29:22,253 --> 01:29:24,253
Speaker 12: They having exactly.

1736
01:29:24,533 --> 01:29:27,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, it is incredible.

1737
01:29:28,413 --> 01:29:30,653
Speaker 3: Anyway, What kind of exercise would you do if you

1738
01:29:30,733 --> 01:29:33,173
Speaker 3: were in Malta.

1739
01:29:33,693 --> 01:29:36,413
Speaker 12: Well, there's a lot of history and a lot of scenery,

1740
01:29:36,573 --> 01:29:39,413
Speaker 12: and a lot of movie locations, as you refer to Franchister,

1741
01:29:40,413 --> 01:29:43,653
Speaker 12: A bit of walk, a lot of walking. Absolutely. The

1742
01:29:43,693 --> 01:29:47,013
Speaker 12: thing about Malta is that you know, unlike Esily or

1743
01:29:47,053 --> 01:29:50,613
Speaker 12: Spain or Greece or Croatia. It doesn't really flash on

1744
01:29:50,653 --> 01:29:54,133
Speaker 12: the tourist radar for Kiwi's, which I find quite weird

1745
01:29:54,373 --> 01:29:58,293
Speaker 12: because I think it's seriously underrated. It's a really good

1746
01:29:58,413 --> 01:30:04,653
Speaker 12: value Mediterranean destination and the climate is incredible. I just

1747
01:30:04,693 --> 01:30:06,693
Speaker 12: think it's the sort of place that will s mashed

1748
01:30:06,733 --> 01:30:11,013
Speaker 12: your expectations and it's very easy to get to, very

1749
01:30:11,053 --> 01:30:16,693
Speaker 12: short direct flights from Dubai Doha, Rome. So yeah, a

1750
01:30:16,933 --> 01:30:19,733
Speaker 12: fabulous destination to check out if you've never been.

1751
01:30:19,933 --> 01:30:21,373
Speaker 3: Where is it located exactly?

1752
01:30:22,573 --> 01:30:25,733
Speaker 12: It is so fast out in the Mediterranean that it's

1753
01:30:25,813 --> 01:30:31,773
Speaker 12: actually parallel with Lebanon to Nisia and Algeria, so it's

1754
01:30:31,813 --> 01:30:35,693
Speaker 12: below Sicily. It's one of the most sutherly European nations,

1755
01:30:36,653 --> 01:30:40,933
Speaker 12: and obviously because it's position, it's been a strategic prize

1756
01:30:41,333 --> 01:30:43,933
Speaker 12: for conquerors over the centuries. And you can still feel

1757
01:30:43,973 --> 01:30:47,453
Speaker 12: that melting pot influence, you know, sort of North African,

1758
01:30:47,693 --> 01:30:52,773
Speaker 12: Arab and European influences. They're all ever present. And I

1759
01:30:52,933 --> 01:30:54,773
Speaker 12: just recently went to Malta for the first time with

1760
01:30:54,853 --> 01:30:59,533
Speaker 12: Inside Vacations and they do a really good introductory guided

1761
01:30:59,613 --> 01:31:04,653
Speaker 12: to experience. It's sort of like Malta's greatest hits or

1762
01:31:04,733 --> 01:31:10,133
Speaker 12: sort of bundled together of flexible downtime built into the

1763
01:31:10,173 --> 01:31:11,813
Speaker 12: tour so you can do your own thing. And there

1764
01:31:11,893 --> 01:31:14,293
Speaker 12: is something really special about, you know, that sort of

1765
01:31:14,333 --> 01:31:17,613
Speaker 12: serender for this discovery time. So yeah, I just found

1766
01:31:17,613 --> 01:31:19,213
Speaker 12: it absolutely and frawling.

1767
01:31:19,533 --> 01:31:21,733
Speaker 3: So if you were a first time would you base

1768
01:31:21,813 --> 01:31:22,813
Speaker 3: yourself and sleeamer.

1769
01:31:24,013 --> 01:31:28,893
Speaker 12: Yes. Salima is this very glossy strip stretching along the

1770
01:31:28,973 --> 01:31:33,093
Speaker 12: seafront across from the letter, which we'll talk about next week.

1771
01:31:33,173 --> 01:31:37,613
Speaker 12: But in Salima, it's just that seafront that is spectacular.

1772
01:31:37,733 --> 01:31:40,733
Speaker 12: It's a buzz with fishing boats and fairies, and they've

1773
01:31:40,733 --> 01:31:45,093
Speaker 12: got this massive two kilometers along promenade swooping along the seafront,

1774
01:31:45,133 --> 01:31:48,093
Speaker 12: and it's just a buzz with life. Lots of loved

1775
01:31:48,213 --> 01:31:53,053
Speaker 12: up young things canoodling, their fitness fanatics like Manchesca founding

1776
01:31:53,093 --> 01:31:56,453
Speaker 12: the pavements. There's elf risco cafes and beach clubs and

1777
01:31:56,453 --> 01:32:00,013
Speaker 12: street vendors. It just feels like this colorful carnival of

1778
01:32:00,293 --> 01:32:03,933
Speaker 12: life on that literary promenade, and it's very much the

1779
01:32:03,973 --> 01:32:05,333
Speaker 12: new face of Malta.

1780
01:32:05,373 --> 01:32:08,373
Speaker 3: But I'm sure that, like a lot of places, it's

1781
01:32:08,373 --> 01:32:10,373
Speaker 3: when you get into the back streets, you really see

1782
01:32:10,613 --> 01:32:11,973
Speaker 3: or feel the character of a place.

1783
01:32:12,893 --> 01:32:16,453
Speaker 12: It's amazing. Yeah, you just have to go a couple

1784
01:32:16,453 --> 01:32:18,813
Speaker 12: of streets back from that seafront and you feel like

1785
01:32:18,933 --> 01:32:22,613
Speaker 12: you've transported yourself back a hundred years, if not longer.

1786
01:32:22,893 --> 01:32:26,493
Speaker 12: It feels lost in time. It's where the magic happens

1787
01:32:26,493 --> 01:32:30,573
Speaker 12: in Slimmer, and you've got all of this incredible old architecture,

1788
01:32:31,453 --> 01:32:35,293
Speaker 12: those gorgeous old Maltese balcony off the sides of buildings

1789
01:32:35,693 --> 01:32:40,373
Speaker 12: are decovallets, art navaux vlets, and lots of pint sized grocery,

1790
01:32:40,493 --> 01:32:45,653
Speaker 12: pastry and confectionery shops, which sort of give the area

1791
01:32:45,773 --> 01:32:48,533
Speaker 12: like an old school village wide. So it's like the

1792
01:32:48,573 --> 01:32:52,253
Speaker 12: old face of Malta intersected with a new face. Great

1793
01:32:52,253 --> 01:32:53,093
Speaker 12: fun to explore.

1794
01:32:53,253 --> 01:32:55,893
Speaker 3: You're selling this well. Now the center of the island

1795
01:32:56,293 --> 01:32:59,173
Speaker 3: is Medina. What is so special about this place?

1796
01:33:00,133 --> 01:33:04,373
Speaker 12: This is remarkable. This town. It's a fortified helltop medieval town,

1797
01:33:04,533 --> 01:33:08,533
Speaker 12: lots of narrow streets, largely car three, and very few inhabitants.

1798
01:33:08,573 --> 01:33:11,653
Speaker 12: In fact, many of the residents are nuns, and you

1799
01:33:11,693 --> 01:33:15,933
Speaker 12: will see them disappearing behind grand, old wooden doors as

1800
01:33:15,973 --> 01:33:19,053
Speaker 12: you stile around the lanes. Much of the town was

1801
01:33:19,053 --> 01:33:22,613
Speaker 12: built by the Knights of Saint John and the architecture,

1802
01:33:22,613 --> 01:33:28,013
Speaker 12: once again, it's just astonishing Norman architecture, Barock architecture. The

1803
01:33:28,133 --> 01:33:32,573
Speaker 12: whole place feels mystical. And if it looks familiar, chances

1804
01:33:32,613 --> 01:33:36,053
Speaker 12: are you've been watching Game of Thrones, because the main

1805
01:33:36,173 --> 01:33:40,213
Speaker 12: city gate into Medina was cast as the entrance to

1806
01:33:40,333 --> 01:33:41,053
Speaker 12: King's landing.

1807
01:33:42,173 --> 01:33:45,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Why doesn't that surprise me? Because I mean,

1808
01:33:45,973 --> 01:33:48,093
Speaker 3: if you look at pictures of it, you see, I

1809
01:33:48,093 --> 01:33:50,693
Speaker 3: can absolutely see it would turn up in that TV show, Hey,

1810
01:33:50,693 --> 01:33:53,933
Speaker 3: what's happening with the Queensvilla and Malta.

1811
01:33:54,093 --> 01:33:56,573
Speaker 12: Yes, if you're a fan of the crown, you may

1812
01:33:56,613 --> 01:33:59,453
Speaker 12: recall that the late Queen considered her early adult years

1813
01:33:59,453 --> 01:34:01,493
Speaker 12: living in Malta has been some of the happiest of

1814
01:34:01,533 --> 01:34:04,373
Speaker 12: your life. And that was when Philip was stationed there

1815
01:34:04,373 --> 01:34:06,253
Speaker 12: as a naval officers, so they spent a couple of

1816
01:34:06,453 --> 01:34:09,653
Speaker 12: year is there before she actually ascended to the throne.

1817
01:34:09,693 --> 01:34:13,133
Speaker 12: But you can see the residence Squadamanja, which is a

1818
01:34:13,253 --> 01:34:16,973
Speaker 12: three hundred year old limestone billet. It's just about ten

1819
01:34:16,973 --> 01:34:20,573
Speaker 12: to fifteen minutes from Slima and it was recently purchased

1820
01:34:20,573 --> 01:34:23,133
Speaker 12: by the Maltese government, so they' own the process of

1821
01:34:23,213 --> 01:34:26,053
Speaker 12: restoring it, and apparently it's going to be turned into

1822
01:34:26,093 --> 01:34:28,493
Speaker 12: a museum in honor of the Queen, so that will

1823
01:34:28,533 --> 01:34:31,693
Speaker 12: be quite an attraction. But just if you're going there

1824
01:34:32,333 --> 01:34:35,173
Speaker 12: for now, you can just rock up to the front entrance.

1825
01:34:35,213 --> 01:34:39,293
Speaker 12: I've got this amazing elegant portico which reaches out onto

1826
01:34:39,333 --> 01:34:42,773
Speaker 12: the footpath, so that is an essential photostop. The other thing,

1827
01:34:42,813 --> 01:34:45,413
Speaker 12: by the way, speaking of the big screen and the

1828
01:34:45,413 --> 01:34:47,973
Speaker 12: TV screen, Gladiator two.

1829
01:34:48,093 --> 01:34:49,133
Speaker 5: Have you heard about.

1830
01:34:48,853 --> 01:34:54,173
Speaker 12: Gladiator two, Francesca. Yes, yeah, so they recently finished shooting

1831
01:34:54,213 --> 01:34:57,173
Speaker 12: that in Malta. Of course, the original Gladiator has done

1832
01:34:57,373 --> 01:34:59,853
Speaker 12: as well, and I think it's due out in November,

1833
01:34:59,933 --> 01:35:03,213
Speaker 12: directed by Ridley Scott, so that will be a massive

1834
01:35:03,773 --> 01:35:05,333
Speaker 12: Christmas hit, I reckon.

1835
01:35:05,093 --> 01:35:07,293
Speaker 3: And it will be. If Land is heading to Malta.

1836
01:35:07,333 --> 01:35:11,453
Speaker 12: Best time of the year, I would say shoulder season,

1837
01:35:11,573 --> 01:35:15,333
Speaker 12: so September through November is good, and then sort of

1838
01:35:15,373 --> 01:35:18,133
Speaker 12: March to May. Once you hit June, that gets too hot,

1839
01:35:18,213 --> 01:35:18,893
Speaker 12: too crowded.

1840
01:35:20,093 --> 01:35:22,933
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Mike. Enjoy the rest of your Saturday,

1841
01:35:22,933 --> 01:35:24,093
Speaker 3: have a little aaugh noon, nap and then you'll be

1842
01:35:24,093 --> 01:35:26,693
Speaker 3: able to get through some more Olympics tonight. Thank you

1843
01:35:26,853 --> 01:35:32,053
Speaker 3: very much, and of course if you'd like more tips

1844
01:35:32,053 --> 01:35:34,573
Speaker 3: on something the sites in Malta. Mike's article is on

1845
01:35:34,613 --> 01:35:38,413
Speaker 3: the website newstalkszb dot co dot Nz, slash lifestyle, slash

1846
01:35:38,533 --> 01:35:42,533
Speaker 3: travel right New Zealand's Olympic medal counts. It's at six.

1847
01:35:42,813 --> 01:35:45,413
Speaker 3: Jason Pine is going to reflect on the week and

1848
01:35:45,653 --> 01:35:47,813
Speaker 3: is the season over for the Warriors. We're going to

1849
01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:51,373
Speaker 3: talk to Piny next twenty seven past eleven.

1850
01:35:54,613 --> 01:35:56,253
Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

1851
01:35:56,453 --> 01:36:14,733
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News Talks Edbodumn, Well.

1852
01:36:14,693 --> 01:36:16,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could get a good strata onto this. This

1853
01:36:17,053 --> 01:36:19,253
Speaker 3: is Beyonce. Yeah yeah. This is a song that brought

1854
01:36:19,253 --> 01:36:23,493
Speaker 3: Team USA and at the opening Olympic opening ceremony. She

1855
01:36:23,533 --> 01:36:26,653
Speaker 3: also did a personal video introducing It was sort of

1856
01:36:26,653 --> 01:36:31,653
Speaker 3: an introduction from Beyonce alongside a whole lot of top

1857
01:36:31,693 --> 01:36:35,253
Speaker 3: American athletes as well. It's got a good beat to it. Piney,

1858
01:36:35,293 --> 01:36:36,053
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good.

1859
01:36:36,093 --> 01:36:38,453
Speaker 15: Don't mind it's starting my stuff to this. I don't

1860
01:36:38,453 --> 01:36:38,813
Speaker 15: mind it.

1861
01:36:38,933 --> 01:36:41,373
Speaker 3: Okay, So what have you loved? What have you been

1862
01:36:41,373 --> 01:36:43,373
Speaker 3: disappointed about the end of Week one?

1863
01:36:43,453 --> 01:36:45,733
Speaker 24: What love I love watching Zoe Hobbs this morning. I

1864
01:36:45,773 --> 01:36:49,293
Speaker 24: loved seeing Kiwi sprinter at the Olympic Games. How good

1865
01:36:49,413 --> 01:36:51,653
Speaker 24: was that? And not just at the Olympic Games, but

1866
01:36:52,293 --> 01:36:55,253
Speaker 24: into the semi finals. I thought Zoe Hobbes looked amazing

1867
01:36:55,293 --> 01:36:59,733
Speaker 24: this morning, just sprinting down that track representing US. I

1868
01:36:59,733 --> 01:37:02,013
Speaker 24: thought that was amazing. Did you see some own biles?

1869
01:37:02,053 --> 01:37:03,293
Speaker 24: Have you watched her the gym?

1870
01:37:03,693 --> 01:37:03,933
Speaker 2: Oh?

1871
01:37:03,973 --> 01:37:07,253
Speaker 15: My god, I know she is astonishing.

1872
01:37:07,413 --> 01:37:10,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible, I know. I mean I say to people,

1873
01:37:10,573 --> 01:37:11,333
Speaker 3: do a catwheel?

1874
01:37:11,413 --> 01:37:12,053
Speaker 15: I go, what I go?

1875
01:37:12,253 --> 01:37:14,973
Speaker 3: Just try and do a cartwheel and then imagine what

1876
01:37:15,093 --> 01:37:17,653
Speaker 3: she can do. It's mind blowing.

1877
01:37:17,693 --> 01:37:18,973
Speaker 24: I tell you what else is really good as the

1878
01:37:19,013 --> 01:37:20,933
Speaker 24: coverage of the Games. I mean some of the television

1879
01:37:21,533 --> 01:37:25,013
Speaker 24: production is just absolutely out of this world. You know,

1880
01:37:25,093 --> 01:37:28,413
Speaker 24: the advances and TV technology are such that now you know,

1881
01:37:28,493 --> 01:37:31,013
Speaker 24: the super slow mos and even I was watching the

1882
01:37:31,213 --> 01:37:33,813
Speaker 24: canoe slalom the other day and just the droplets of

1883
01:37:33,893 --> 01:37:37,493
Speaker 24: water you can just about see the individual droplets going

1884
01:37:37,533 --> 01:37:39,493
Speaker 24: to the faces of these canoe slalom people. It's just

1885
01:37:39,493 --> 01:37:41,213
Speaker 24: a small thing. But yeah, and I've loved it all.

1886
01:37:42,013 --> 01:37:43,293
Speaker 24: What have you been sort of taking in?

1887
01:37:43,533 --> 01:37:45,973
Speaker 3: Oh, I've done everything I've been very busy this week.

1888
01:37:46,533 --> 01:37:48,453
Speaker 3: As I've been saying all warning, I feel like I've

1889
01:37:48,493 --> 01:37:50,733
Speaker 3: been doing, you know, doing half these activities, which because

1890
01:37:50,773 --> 01:37:52,093
Speaker 3: I haven't, but you just get caught up in the

1891
01:37:52,093 --> 01:37:54,573
Speaker 3: emotion of it all and it's all quite exhausting. I've done.

1892
01:37:54,613 --> 01:37:56,533
Speaker 3: I've done a lot of things. How could you not

1893
01:37:56,653 --> 01:38:00,533
Speaker 3: watch the even if you didn't like horses, how could

1894
01:38:00,533 --> 01:38:02,973
Speaker 3: you not watch all the equestrian and ANSI I mean,

1895
01:38:03,213 --> 01:38:08,333
Speaker 3: the location is just stunning. I beside myself watching the triathlon.

1896
01:38:08,533 --> 01:38:10,693
Speaker 3: I loved that, you know, the swimming has been great,

1897
01:38:12,413 --> 01:38:15,853
Speaker 3: so exciting last night to see a sold outcrowd just

1898
01:38:15,933 --> 01:38:19,333
Speaker 3: for qualifying at the for the athletics for a track

1899
01:38:19,373 --> 01:38:21,933
Speaker 3: and field. So that's going to be just amazing for

1900
01:38:21,973 --> 01:38:24,373
Speaker 3: all our New Zealand athletics to be in that stadium

1901
01:38:24,373 --> 01:38:26,013
Speaker 3: competing and having that experience.

1902
01:38:26,093 --> 01:38:28,493
Speaker 24: It feels like the Parisians and the French people on

1903
01:38:28,493 --> 01:38:29,973
Speaker 24: the whole of really embraced it. I think most of

1904
01:38:29,973 --> 01:38:31,493
Speaker 24: them are just like in a month off yeah and

1905
01:38:31,573 --> 01:38:33,293
Speaker 24: just you know, we just we'll just get along to everything.

1906
01:38:33,333 --> 01:38:35,133
Speaker 3: I heard Michael Burgers say that, you know, he's been

1907
01:38:35,173 --> 01:38:38,693
Speaker 3: talking to a lot of veterans sort of Olympic reporters

1908
01:38:38,693 --> 01:38:41,413
Speaker 3: and they're saying they haven't seen an atmosphere like this

1909
01:38:41,493 --> 01:38:42,853
Speaker 3: at of games for a long time. And of course

1910
01:38:42,893 --> 01:38:44,613
Speaker 3: it's very easy to compare it to Tokyo, where it

1911
01:38:44,653 --> 01:38:46,693
Speaker 3: was dead silent, there was no one there. Hey, look

1912
01:38:46,733 --> 01:38:48,813
Speaker 3: something else I want to throw at you. Is as

1913
01:38:48,893 --> 01:38:51,253
Speaker 3: much as we're loving the Olympics, the Warriors did not

1914
01:38:51,293 --> 01:38:54,053
Speaker 3: have a good night against the Eels last night. Is

1915
01:38:54,093 --> 01:38:55,653
Speaker 3: that for them? Is that they're season over?

1916
01:38:55,813 --> 01:38:58,693
Speaker 24: Well, it feels like it probably is. They've got four

1917
01:38:58,693 --> 01:39:00,333
Speaker 24: games left, right, they get to buy at the end,

1918
01:39:00,333 --> 01:39:03,173
Speaker 24: so that's two points. But they've we're now starting to

1919
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Speaker 24: talk about maths and say, right, mathematically, it's still a

1920
01:39:06,573 --> 01:39:09,613
Speaker 24: SOM's just start having those conversations. Then you know, you

1921
01:39:09,693 --> 01:39:13,053
Speaker 24: know that it's anywhere but certain. They've got to win

1922
01:39:13,133 --> 01:39:15,533
Speaker 24: four games, only one at home, all of those four

1923
01:39:15,533 --> 01:39:18,733
Speaker 24: games against teams currently in the top eight and fighting

1924
01:39:18,733 --> 01:39:22,173
Speaker 24: for their top eight lives. It just feels the inconsistency.

1925
01:39:22,173 --> 01:39:23,653
Speaker 24: If this team won't allow them to win.

1926
01:39:23,933 --> 01:39:25,733
Speaker 3: We're also waiting for others to lose, Like as the

1927
01:39:25,853 --> 01:39:28,373
Speaker 3: sort of does that how a mass that it gets complicated.

1928
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Speaker 24: Because you look at it, you say Okay, well they

1929
01:39:29,173 --> 01:39:31,333
Speaker 24: could beat them if they beat them and we and

1930
01:39:31,333 --> 01:39:32,653
Speaker 24: we go on and beat them, but there's a lot

1931
01:39:32,653 --> 01:39:33,493
Speaker 24: of some butts.

1932
01:39:33,813 --> 01:39:35,333
Speaker 15: It's really out of their hands.

1933
01:39:35,333 --> 01:39:39,213
Speaker 24: Now, Yes, they could win all four games and go through,

1934
01:39:39,253 --> 01:39:41,653
Speaker 24: but that even that might not be enough.

1935
01:39:41,733 --> 01:39:45,853
Speaker 15: So it just it just it's so isn't it so disappointing?

1936
01:39:45,893 --> 01:39:46,013
Speaker 11: Though?

1937
01:39:46,373 --> 01:39:48,413
Speaker 24: Remember you're not talking in April and thinking this is

1938
01:39:48,453 --> 01:39:49,533
Speaker 24: going to be amazing.

1939
01:39:49,893 --> 01:39:52,373
Speaker 3: Inconsistency would be the word that I would use. Yeah,

1940
01:39:52,373 --> 01:39:54,933
Speaker 3: this season unfortunately, because as you say, there have been

1941
01:39:54,933 --> 01:39:58,453
Speaker 3: moments we have just been blown away and it's been fantastic.

1942
01:39:59,053 --> 01:40:01,133
Speaker 3: And then last night we were flicking, you know, through

1943
01:40:01,533 --> 01:40:03,613
Speaker 3: through all the channels and we'd go back to the

1944
01:40:03,653 --> 01:40:05,933
Speaker 3: game and I think it was thirty four at one point,

1945
01:40:05,933 --> 01:40:07,893
Speaker 3: and we just just you know, and it was like,

1946
01:40:08,173 --> 01:40:11,653
Speaker 3: let's just not do this to ourselves. Let's watch let's

1947
01:40:11,693 --> 01:40:13,853
Speaker 3: watch Zoey Hobbs run one hundred peu.

1948
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Speaker 15: Yeah, much more, much more and thrawing.

1949
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Speaker 24: But just I feel really fear for Warriors fans because

1950
01:40:18,573 --> 01:40:20,773
Speaker 24: last year gave them a taste of what could be

1951
01:40:21,253 --> 01:40:22,773
Speaker 24: and it just hasn't been this season.

1952
01:40:23,013 --> 01:40:24,453
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's coming up on weekend?

1953
01:40:24,493 --> 01:40:26,813
Speaker 24: Sports got a couple of middle star Isaac and MacCarty

1954
01:40:26,853 --> 01:40:29,373
Speaker 24: who won in the skiff overnight, are going to talk

1955
01:40:29,373 --> 01:40:31,533
Speaker 24: to Lucy Spores as well gold medalist and the rowing

1956
01:40:31,573 --> 01:40:34,293
Speaker 24: and also Dylan Schmidt who didn't win a medal he

1957
01:40:34,373 --> 01:40:37,933
Speaker 24: fell in his trampoline routine. How guarding all of that

1958
01:40:38,173 --> 01:40:40,173
Speaker 24: build up, all of that work for a fall.

1959
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Speaker 15: In the final final?

1960
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

1961
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Speaker 24: Yeah, And I kind of want to, you know, find

1962
01:40:43,093 --> 01:40:45,093
Speaker 24: out what people are what people are watching really and

1963
01:40:45,493 --> 01:40:47,853
Speaker 24: and you know, I'm an expert on fencing. Now I'm

1964
01:40:47,893 --> 01:40:49,813
Speaker 24: sure people are an expert on all sorts of things.

1965
01:40:50,133 --> 01:40:53,053
Speaker 3: I'm hugely delusional about what I think I know about sport.

1966
01:40:54,893 --> 01:40:56,453
Speaker 24: Do you find yourself to go on the couch, you know,

1967
01:40:56,613 --> 01:40:58,213
Speaker 24: with your bag of chips and look at him like

1968
01:40:58,253 --> 01:40:59,093
Speaker 24: that was pathetic?

1969
01:41:00,693 --> 01:41:02,173
Speaker 3: This is what I mean about. You've got to have

1970
01:41:02,173 --> 01:41:04,213
Speaker 3: a reality check. Get up and do a cart We'll

1971
01:41:04,253 --> 01:41:06,013
Speaker 3: get up and see if you can actually jump. You

1972
01:41:06,133 --> 01:41:08,653
Speaker 3: go outside and run one hundred meters and just put

1973
01:41:08,693 --> 01:41:11,453
Speaker 3: things in perspective. No, no, oh, I love it. Jason

1974
01:41:11,453 --> 01:41:14,053
Speaker 3: Pine will be back at midday with the Weekend Sport

1975
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Speaker 3: taking through to three. It is twenty four to twelve

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your feedback this morning. And

1981
01:41:30,253 --> 01:41:33,053
Speaker 3: before we were talking to ethically Kate about how to

1982
01:41:33,093 --> 01:41:36,893
Speaker 3: dispose of cell phones and teck and things, and somebody

1983
01:41:37,333 --> 01:41:39,773
Speaker 3: flipped me a text saying, look, because she made a

1984
01:41:39,773 --> 01:41:41,493
Speaker 3: comment of the fires that have been taking place in

1985
01:41:42,173 --> 01:41:45,053
Speaker 3: rubbish trucks and things like that, someone texts to say

1986
01:41:45,053 --> 01:41:48,133
Speaker 3: that the rubbish trucks fires are also caused by vapes.

1987
01:41:48,733 --> 01:41:51,053
Speaker 3: A lot of people throw their vapes into the rubbish

1988
01:41:51,093 --> 01:41:54,533
Speaker 3: and you'll, apparently because I don't vape, not up to

1989
01:41:54,533 --> 01:41:57,573
Speaker 3: speed with this. It is important to know that you

1990
01:41:57,653 --> 01:42:00,013
Speaker 3: cannot dispose of your vape by showing it and with

1991
01:42:00,093 --> 01:42:03,373
Speaker 3: your general curb rubbish. Once again, there's a whole lot

1992
01:42:03,373 --> 01:42:07,173
Speaker 3: of places where you can you can you return, recycle,

1993
01:42:07,733 --> 01:42:10,813
Speaker 3: dispose of them and things, but they too cannot go

1994
01:42:11,053 --> 01:42:12,653
Speaker 3: in your curbside brothers.

1995
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Speaker 15: Thank you for.

1996
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Speaker 3: Your text on that. Catherine Rains joins me now to

1997
01:42:17,333 --> 01:42:21,373
Speaker 3: talk books. Good morning morning, How are you. I'm really good?

1998
01:42:21,413 --> 01:42:24,213
Speaker 3: Thank you. I love the title of this first book

1999
01:42:24,213 --> 01:42:26,173
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about because it sounds like a

2000
01:42:26,173 --> 01:42:29,093
Speaker 3: great piece of fiction, but of course it's nonfiction. It

2001
01:42:29,213 --> 01:42:33,293
Speaker 3: actually happened How the World Ran out of Everything by

2002
01:42:33,333 --> 01:42:34,373
Speaker 3: Peter S. Goodman.

2003
01:42:35,573 --> 01:42:38,413
Speaker 23: So he's talking in this about the global supply chain,

2004
01:42:38,653 --> 01:42:40,533
Speaker 23: and the premise of the book is that we live

2005
01:42:40,533 --> 01:42:43,533
Speaker 23: in this time of almost instantaneous purchasing, where you can

2006
01:42:43,573 --> 01:42:47,493
Speaker 23: get anything at the click of a screen and delivered

2007
01:42:47,533 --> 01:42:49,733
Speaker 23: to our doorstep, and we don't really give it a

2008
01:42:49,773 --> 01:42:52,693
Speaker 23: second thought. And so he looks at the inner workings

2009
01:42:52,733 --> 01:42:55,053
Speaker 23: of the supply chain and the factors that lead to

2010
01:42:55,093 --> 01:42:58,093
Speaker 23: its vulnerability. And so he takes us at a deep

2011
01:42:58,133 --> 01:43:01,853
Speaker 23: inside that and the humans behind it, and the factories

2012
01:43:01,853 --> 01:43:03,853
Speaker 23: in Asia, and he talks to an armand grower in

2013
01:43:03,893 --> 01:43:07,253
Speaker 23: North California, and some railway workers in texts, and a

2014
01:43:07,293 --> 01:43:10,893
Speaker 23: truck driver that he actually accompanies across hundreds of miles

2015
01:43:10,933 --> 01:43:14,613
Speaker 23: of the Great Pains, and he has this very powerful argument,

2016
01:43:14,653 --> 01:43:17,613
Speaker 23: I think, for reforming the supply chain to become resilient.

2017
01:43:18,253 --> 01:43:21,693
Speaker 23: And he nobody, none of us, really paid particularly much

2018
01:43:21,813 --> 01:43:25,213
Speaker 23: attention to labor and shareholders in the supply chain until

2019
01:43:25,213 --> 01:43:28,573
Speaker 23: March twenty twenty, when the world's shut down. And this

2020
01:43:28,733 --> 01:43:31,933
Speaker 23: book specifically really looks at America and for the first

2021
01:43:31,973 --> 01:43:35,813
Speaker 23: time facing bear shelves and modern history, and you know

2022
01:43:35,853 --> 01:43:39,013
Speaker 23: this seemingly endless cycle of shortages. You know, first it

2023
01:43:39,053 --> 01:43:41,653
Speaker 23: was toilet paper, and then it was flour, and people

2024
01:43:41,693 --> 01:43:44,213
Speaker 23: were trying to build their new at home lives, and

2025
01:43:44,293 --> 01:43:46,813
Speaker 23: you just got faced with non stock and bear shelves,

2026
01:43:47,293 --> 01:43:49,533
Speaker 23: and some of those shortages, he argues, could have been

2027
01:43:49,573 --> 01:43:53,093
Speaker 23: prevented if there was good inventory levels in America, and

2028
01:43:53,213 --> 01:43:55,893
Speaker 23: some of them were just lies, and it was you know,

2029
01:43:55,933 --> 01:43:58,333
Speaker 23: if things are in short supply, the price goes up,

2030
01:43:58,813 --> 01:44:01,213
Speaker 23: and so the supply chain break almost looks like it's

2031
01:44:01,373 --> 01:44:04,093
Speaker 23: come and gone, but the impact on the sly chain

2032
01:44:04,093 --> 01:44:06,773
Speaker 23: in the economy with things like inflation. And what he

2033
01:44:06,813 --> 01:44:09,293
Speaker 23: does is he follows the story of this single forty

2034
01:44:09,293 --> 01:44:11,693
Speaker 23: foot shipping container and it's a journey across the world

2035
01:44:11,693 --> 01:44:13,893
Speaker 23: in twenty twenty one, and he talks to the people

2036
01:44:13,933 --> 01:44:16,013
Speaker 23: involved and what happens and the fact that it takes

2037
01:44:16,053 --> 01:44:19,693
Speaker 23: almost a year and this whole disruption and the factory

2038
01:44:19,733 --> 01:44:23,293
Speaker 23: in China, and it's fascinating because you don't really give

2039
01:44:23,573 --> 01:44:25,773
Speaker 23: much thought to this and the unseen labor that brings

2040
01:44:25,813 --> 01:44:28,093
Speaker 23: things to your door. No, I have a we're asking

2041
01:44:28,133 --> 01:44:28,693
Speaker 23: a lot of people.

2042
01:44:28,773 --> 01:44:31,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a strange fascination with shipping. I mean,

2043
01:44:31,413 --> 01:44:34,733
Speaker 3: it's just it's such an incredibly old industry and I

2044
01:44:34,813 --> 01:44:38,453
Speaker 3: just love the logistics of how we move things around

2045
01:44:38,493 --> 01:44:40,813
Speaker 3: the world and how that seems to work. So does

2046
01:44:40,853 --> 01:44:43,453
Speaker 3: it go into sort of the shipping and what happened

2047
01:44:43,453 --> 01:44:44,773
Speaker 3: on that side of things as well?

2048
01:44:45,893 --> 01:44:49,053
Speaker 23: Yes, he does, because as you're following that out of COVID,

2049
01:44:49,173 --> 01:44:51,773
Speaker 23: the and then the and you know other things, and

2050
01:44:52,413 --> 01:44:54,693
Speaker 23: he calls it the great supply chain disruption, and yes,

2051
01:44:54,813 --> 01:44:57,013
Speaker 23: and those bottlenecks at every step in the way, So

2052
01:44:57,093 --> 01:44:59,733
Speaker 23: not just the factories, but the ships and fascin getting

2053
01:44:59,773 --> 01:45:02,293
Speaker 23: stuck at ports and all sorts of things. As he

2054
01:45:02,453 --> 01:45:05,013
Speaker 23: follows those stories and different workers and different people, it's

2055
01:45:05,053 --> 01:45:06,653
Speaker 23: really interesting. J. P.

2056
01:45:06,813 --> 01:45:09,173
Speaker 3: Pomaro becoming one of our most prolific authors.

2057
01:45:10,173 --> 01:45:12,893
Speaker 23: I think so because seventeen years later is his seventh

2058
01:45:12,933 --> 01:45:17,733
Speaker 23: foot and this one centers the narrative around a true

2059
01:45:17,853 --> 01:45:21,933
Speaker 23: chi crime podcast called Legacy, and it's happened that a

2060
01:45:22,053 --> 01:45:25,893
Speaker 23: murder happened of a very English family called the Primrose Family.

2061
01:45:25,973 --> 01:45:28,693
Speaker 23: Seventeen years ago in the very quiet little town of

2062
01:45:28,733 --> 01:45:31,973
Speaker 23: Cambridge in New Zealand, and the family chef was arrested

2063
01:45:31,973 --> 01:45:34,813
Speaker 23: a few hours later and has been in prison ever since.

2064
01:45:35,373 --> 01:45:38,333
Speaker 23: And this podcaster, a woman called Sloan Abbott, is looking

2065
01:45:38,373 --> 01:45:40,813
Speaker 23: into the story, believing that Bill Caramero, the chef that

2066
01:45:40,893 --> 01:45:44,413
Speaker 23: was arrested, was not given a fair trial, and as

2067
01:45:44,413 --> 01:45:46,973
Speaker 23: she's prompted to take on this case, she focuses on

2068
01:45:47,013 --> 01:45:51,133
Speaker 23: the accusation and trial is a potential miscarriage of justice.

2069
01:45:51,573 --> 01:45:55,293
Speaker 23: But when she starts investigating, she finds that everybody involved

2070
01:45:55,453 --> 01:45:58,093
Speaker 23: in the story in the case believes that Bell committed

2071
01:45:58,093 --> 01:46:01,053
Speaker 23: the crime, including a psychologist, a guy called JERREUW.

2072
01:46:01,053 --> 01:46:02,773
Speaker 25: Phillips TK, who was very.

2073
01:46:02,613 --> 01:46:06,253
Speaker 23: Close to Bill until he became completely convinced that Bill did.

2074
01:46:07,133 --> 01:46:09,613
Speaker 23: And Abbott discovers this new piece of evidence and the

2075
01:46:09,653 --> 01:46:12,133
Speaker 23: case begins to reopen and TK is drawn back in,

2076
01:46:12,813 --> 01:46:15,253
Speaker 23: and you get Bill's accounts of the events that lead

2077
01:46:15,333 --> 01:46:17,533
Speaker 23: up to the killing, starting with his return from Australia

2078
01:46:17,533 --> 01:46:19,733
Speaker 23: and being hired as a live and cook for the Primroses,

2079
01:46:20,333 --> 01:46:22,493
Speaker 23: and you flip back and forth and time in different

2080
01:46:22,493 --> 01:46:25,373
Speaker 23: perspectives in the suspects, and there's lots of red hearings

2081
01:46:25,373 --> 01:46:27,253
Speaker 23: in this and it's.

2082
01:46:27,093 --> 01:46:28,053
Speaker 25: A book that's rich with.

2083
01:46:28,013 --> 01:46:31,653
Speaker 23: Our own culture and history, and there's themes of colonization

2084
01:46:31,733 --> 01:46:33,653
Speaker 23: and racism and the ways of which Bill and the

2085
01:46:33,693 --> 01:46:37,413
Speaker 23: other married characters were treated by the Primroses. And the

2086
01:46:37,453 --> 01:46:41,253
Speaker 23: book starts off really slowly, but you get this absolutely

2087
01:46:41,333 --> 01:46:44,213
Speaker 23: roller coaster of story and lots of suspense, and you're

2088
01:46:44,213 --> 01:46:49,333
Speaker 23: completely hooked as the events of seventeen years ago are revealed.

2089
01:46:49,573 --> 01:46:53,413
Speaker 23: And I thought that I kept picking who was who

2090
01:46:53,453 --> 01:46:57,173
Speaker 23: was the person, and every time I was like not, then.

2091
01:46:57,893 --> 01:47:01,413
Speaker 3: I love a book that Kensie Guessing. Seventh book is J. P.

2092
01:47:01,533 --> 01:47:05,773
Speaker 3: Pomire's style of changing at all.

2093
01:47:05,013 --> 01:47:07,373
Speaker 23: A little, but I think that he so good at

2094
01:47:07,733 --> 01:47:10,693
Speaker 23: sort of howking you into a story that has changes

2095
01:47:10,733 --> 01:47:13,933
Speaker 23: over time. Yeah, he's still deep in sort of the

2096
01:47:13,973 --> 01:47:16,493
Speaker 23: thriller kind of crime side of things, and I think

2097
01:47:17,213 --> 01:47:18,973
Speaker 23: I think the style of writing is changing. I think

2098
01:47:18,973 --> 01:47:21,213
Speaker 23: it's becoming more engrossing and better. I think, of anything,

2099
01:47:21,293 --> 01:47:24,493
Speaker 23: he's just becoming a better author. And the stories are great,

2100
01:47:24,493 --> 01:47:27,933
Speaker 23: and lots of them have been optioned for movies or

2101
01:47:28,373 --> 01:47:31,213
Speaker 23: TV series, and you know that they lend themselves, and

2102
01:47:31,253 --> 01:47:33,413
Speaker 23: this one in particular lends itself very well to that

2103
01:47:33,653 --> 01:47:34,493
Speaker 23: style of story.

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01:47:34,893 --> 01:47:37,893
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Catherine. Those books that Catherine spoke about

2105
01:47:37,933 --> 01:47:40,613
Speaker 3: were How the World Ran Out of Everything by Peter S.

2106
01:47:40,693 --> 01:47:44,853
Speaker 3: Goodman and seventeen years later by JP Pomarte. It is

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Speaker 3: a fifteen to twelve news talks at.

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Speaker 1: BE giving you the inside scoop on all you need

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Speaker 1: to Know Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack

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Speaker 1: Day and Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy News Talks

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Speaker 10: We're taking into Daddy Doo. He's a lazard tool at

2113
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Speaker 10: the many the bit of t get a few bargains.

2114
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Speaker 3: There are three for two by a better mood, lay

2115
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Speaker 3: a pon of the engine.

2116
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Speaker 10: Let me two gets a beatitude, get some nuanced to

2117
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Speaker 10: give me solitude.

2118
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Speaker 9: And a good excuse.

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Speaker 3: This is wonderful. Nothing from Glass Animals that is off

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Speaker 3: their brand new album I love you so iffing much.

2121
01:48:29,733 --> 01:48:31,773
Speaker 3: And I'm sure Estelle, you're wondering what I was going

2122
01:48:31,853 --> 01:48:32,933
Speaker 3: to say there good morning.

2123
01:48:34,013 --> 01:48:38,213
Speaker 26: I thought you might do the blping or there's some

2124
01:48:38,373 --> 01:48:40,453
Speaker 26: places you can review and just say the word as

2125
01:48:40,493 --> 01:48:40,693
Speaker 26: it is.

2126
01:48:40,813 --> 01:48:43,733
Speaker 25: But you know, yep, well well done. Well, this is

2127
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Speaker 25: negotiating that one.

2128
01:48:44,773 --> 01:48:45,573
Speaker 27: No, this is me one.

2129
01:48:45,693 --> 01:48:47,613
Speaker 3: Just looks at the producers. This is how would you

2130
01:48:47,653 --> 01:48:48,973
Speaker 3: like me to say this? Look me and she says,

2131
01:48:49,013 --> 01:48:50,973
Speaker 3: we don't like this, thank you very much. I shall

2132
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Speaker 3: behave yep.

2133
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Speaker 25: One layer of not being told off exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: So this is the yes, sorry, yes.

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01:48:58,853 --> 01:48:59,253
Speaker 5: Sorry do you?

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01:48:59,293 --> 01:49:00,373
Speaker 25: I was going to say you had much of a

2137
01:49:00,493 --> 01:49:01,613
Speaker 25: history with Glass Animals.

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01:49:03,453 --> 01:49:05,813
Speaker 3: I'm a bit like a lot of people. Probably it

2139
01:49:06,053 --> 01:49:08,493
Speaker 3: was that twen twenty hit heat Waves and I went, oh, okay,

2140
01:49:08,653 --> 01:49:12,853
Speaker 3: that's them, and I think the last album dream Streamland. Yes,

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01:49:13,453 --> 01:49:15,653
Speaker 3: I'm just familiar to you. I'm familiar with them.

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01:49:15,733 --> 01:49:17,133
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, totally.

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01:49:17,133 --> 01:49:19,013
Speaker 26: And that's probably where I picked up on them as well.

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01:49:19,133 --> 01:49:22,133
Speaker 26: And heat Waves was everywhere. It got them nominated for

2145
01:49:22,213 --> 01:49:24,253
Speaker 26: so many awards. It got them on the Billboard like

2146
01:49:24,333 --> 01:49:27,493
Speaker 26: two hundred charts album and they stayed there for weeks,

2147
01:49:27,493 --> 01:49:31,053
Speaker 26: which was big, Like it's the biggest UK single of

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01:49:31,133 --> 01:49:33,493
Speaker 26: a UK band for like thirty years or something, so

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01:49:33,613 --> 01:49:34,213
Speaker 26: pretty huge.

2150
01:49:34,413 --> 01:49:35,733
Speaker 3: What's the pressure, right?

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01:49:36,653 --> 01:49:37,293
Speaker 25: I think it does?

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01:49:37,373 --> 01:49:40,333
Speaker 26: And what it did is it catapulted them into fame

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01:49:40,533 --> 01:49:42,933
Speaker 26: that they hadn't had before, Like there've been a great

2154
01:49:43,053 --> 01:49:45,213
Speaker 26: UK band. Lots of people knew them from their back

2155
01:49:45,293 --> 01:49:47,733
Speaker 26: catalog and they were probably a little bit more alt

2156
01:49:47,933 --> 01:49:50,893
Speaker 26: indie and a bit more playful, and that one kind

2157
01:49:50,893 --> 01:49:52,733
Speaker 26: of crossed the line of that sort of more pop

2158
01:49:53,213 --> 01:49:55,053
Speaker 26: kind of sound, but it was a bit different, you know,

2159
01:49:55,173 --> 01:49:57,813
Speaker 26: and it got TikTok. Everyone was using it behind their

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01:49:57,893 --> 01:50:01,093
Speaker 26: videos on TikTok, so it got this real social media following.

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01:50:01,693 --> 01:50:03,213
Speaker 26: And I think what happened for them then is they

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01:50:03,213 --> 01:50:05,453
Speaker 26: weren't able to celebrate the success because we were all

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01:50:05,533 --> 01:50:07,213
Speaker 26: in lockdown, you know.

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01:50:07,253 --> 01:50:08,813
Speaker 25: They didn't even get to go to the Grammys and.

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01:50:08,893 --> 01:50:12,333
Speaker 26: Go, yeah, look at us, which is weird, right, Everyone's

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01:50:12,373 --> 01:50:13,693
Speaker 26: into you and then you don't even get to go

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01:50:13,773 --> 01:50:15,533
Speaker 26: and be in front of them, like it's so strange.

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01:50:15,813 --> 01:50:18,853
Speaker 3: This is the first time, Estelle, that someone's mentioned something

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01:50:18,933 --> 01:50:20,533
Speaker 3: like to do like that with COVID, and it's felt

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01:50:20,573 --> 01:50:22,733
Speaker 3: like a long time ago. That's a good thing, I know.

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01:50:22,813 --> 01:50:23,373
Speaker 3: I'm moving on.

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01:50:23,573 --> 01:50:25,573
Speaker 25: Yeah absolutely, yeah, yeah, totally.

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01:50:25,653 --> 01:50:27,493
Speaker 26: And I think then, for a band who did get

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01:50:27,853 --> 01:50:31,573
Speaker 26: catapulted to much bigger stardom during that time, what's the

2175
01:50:31,693 --> 01:50:34,853
Speaker 26: aftermath of that. And it's actually interesting to me reading

2176
01:50:34,853 --> 01:50:37,493
Speaker 26: the reviews of this album here yes, their fourth album,

2177
01:50:38,613 --> 01:50:41,253
Speaker 26: some fans have just not been into it, and I

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01:50:41,413 --> 01:50:44,653
Speaker 26: think that's because they're original fans back in the very

2179
01:50:44,813 --> 01:50:48,853
Speaker 26: very Like their debut album, ZEBA, it's quite an interesting listen.

2180
01:50:48,973 --> 01:50:51,253
Speaker 26: So maybe what this album is for some of us

2181
01:50:51,453 --> 01:50:53,453
Speaker 26: is a good idea to go back into some of

2182
01:50:53,493 --> 01:50:57,093
Speaker 26: their back catalog and then find the ones that suit

2183
01:50:57,173 --> 01:50:59,293
Speaker 26: for us, if you know what I mean. Probably more

2184
01:50:59,373 --> 01:51:02,053
Speaker 26: pop centric this album than some of their tunes have

2185
01:51:02,213 --> 01:51:06,133
Speaker 26: been before. An interesting band because there's actually four of them,

2186
01:51:06,173 --> 01:51:09,533
Speaker 26: but you only ever really hear from or know about.

2187
01:51:09,373 --> 01:51:11,173
Speaker 25: Lead singer Dave Bailey.

2188
01:51:11,373 --> 01:51:14,373
Speaker 26: Yeah, and he does most of the production himself as well,

2189
01:51:14,493 --> 01:51:17,093
Speaker 26: so it feels like the solo man project, but there

2190
01:51:17,133 --> 01:51:21,053
Speaker 26: are actually four members in a band. I think this

2191
01:51:21,213 --> 01:51:23,893
Speaker 26: time he's tried to scope the music based on his

2192
01:51:24,053 --> 01:51:28,133
Speaker 26: own vulnerability and his own stories, where in the past

2193
01:51:28,173 --> 01:51:31,413
Speaker 26: they've probably been a little loosely tied to someone they

2194
01:51:31,573 --> 01:51:35,333
Speaker 26: know or a little bit ambiguous into their meaning. And

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01:51:35,453 --> 01:51:38,693
Speaker 26: again I think fans actually quite liked that. Maybe that's

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01:51:38,733 --> 01:51:41,253
Speaker 26: the difference here where he's trying to show more of

2197
01:51:41,333 --> 01:51:42,893
Speaker 26: his human scope of emotions.

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01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:43,293
Speaker 25: I don't know.

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01:51:44,733 --> 01:51:47,133
Speaker 26: He uses a lot of his falsetto voice in the

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01:51:47,133 --> 01:51:49,773
Speaker 26: album too, which I don't know about you, but sometimes

2201
01:51:49,813 --> 01:51:51,493
Speaker 26: for me that starts getting a little bit too much,

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01:51:51,813 --> 01:51:52,293
Speaker 26: just a little.

2203
01:51:52,413 --> 01:51:55,093
Speaker 3: I did think production wise, it sounds really slick.

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01:51:55,973 --> 01:51:58,333
Speaker 26: Oh absolutely, And I think he is really clever at there,

2205
01:51:58,373 --> 01:52:00,613
Speaker 26: and he's clever at bringing in like this sort of

2206
01:52:00,893 --> 01:52:04,733
Speaker 26: urban bassy but then there's this synth pop eighties like.

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01:52:04,773 --> 01:52:08,533
Speaker 26: It's kind of a real mosh up of lots of

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01:52:08,573 --> 01:52:11,093
Speaker 26: different genres. But somehow these guys have made it work

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01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:12,813
Speaker 26: for them. And I think because it just sounds a

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01:52:12,853 --> 01:52:15,533
Speaker 26: bit obscure in the pop scene, like, it gives it

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01:52:15,613 --> 01:52:18,413
Speaker 26: that little edge and I think that in pastimes they've

2212
01:52:18,413 --> 01:52:20,813
Speaker 26: probably been a bit edgier than perhaps this album is.

2213
01:52:21,373 --> 01:52:23,093
Speaker 26: But yeah, the bit that sort of annoys me about

2214
01:52:23,093 --> 01:52:25,053
Speaker 26: it is just him staying in the full setto range.

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01:52:25,533 --> 01:52:29,293
Speaker 3: I get this feeling is stell that you'll go. You're

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01:52:29,373 --> 01:52:31,653
Speaker 3: saying to me, you know, these guys have created some

2217
01:52:32,373 --> 01:52:36,013
Speaker 3: huge hits. They're very talented. I'm not really sure where

2218
01:52:36,013 --> 01:52:39,573
Speaker 3: this album is going to fit into the legacy, but

2219
01:52:39,773 --> 01:52:43,293
Speaker 3: you know, it's up to the individual total.

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01:52:43,773 --> 01:52:43,933
Speaker 16: Look.

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01:52:43,973 --> 01:52:46,373
Speaker 26: I think Show Pony and Creatures in Heaven, which you

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01:52:46,373 --> 01:52:48,213
Speaker 26: are going to play some of soon. They've got that

2223
01:52:48,333 --> 01:52:51,093
Speaker 26: real catchy dream pop thing about them which will make

2224
01:52:51,173 --> 01:52:54,053
Speaker 26: that easy radio play like imagine it. I'll get picked up,

2225
01:52:54,413 --> 01:52:57,373
Speaker 26: real catchy, easy to follow, and sometimes don't we just

2226
01:52:57,533 --> 01:52:58,893
Speaker 26: need that mindless.

2227
01:52:58,413 --> 01:53:00,653
Speaker 25: We don't want to your do So what did you

2228
01:53:00,733 --> 01:53:03,373
Speaker 25: give to be a show pony? And enjoy the music?

2229
01:53:03,853 --> 01:53:04,853
Speaker 25: It's a seven out of ten.

2230
01:53:04,933 --> 01:53:06,293
Speaker 26: I don't think it's the best, but there are some

2231
01:53:06,493 --> 01:53:08,813
Speaker 26: enjoyable tunes on it, so soak him up.

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01:53:09,053 --> 01:53:11,253
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Thank you so much, Estelle, and we'll play a

2233
01:53:11,293 --> 01:53:13,493
Speaker 3: little bit more Glass Animals when we come back after

2234
01:53:13,573 --> 01:53:15,293
Speaker 3: the break. It is eight to twelve.

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01:53:17,373 --> 01:53:21,133
Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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01:53:21,333 --> 01:53:25,173
Speaker 1: Francesca Rudkin and for Jack dam and b pere Quality

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01:53:25,213 --> 01:53:28,493
Speaker 1: Supplements for essential energy news talks at b Look.

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01:53:28,533 --> 01:53:31,133
Speaker 3: I've loved popping in and filling in on Saturday mornings.

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01:53:31,133 --> 01:53:32,733
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having me. Thank you very

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01:53:32,813 --> 01:53:35,173
Speaker 3: much to Libby for producing the show. I'm going to

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01:53:35,213 --> 01:53:38,573
Speaker 3: be back tomorrow for the Sunday session from nine and

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01:53:38,853 --> 01:53:42,813
Speaker 3: Frodo himself joins me. The fabulous Elijah Wood to talk

2243
01:53:42,813 --> 01:53:46,613
Speaker 3: about his new Kiwi film Bookworm, and also David Chuck

2244
01:53:46,893 --> 01:53:49,293
Speaker 3: Henwood joins me to talk about his years is one

2245
01:53:49,333 --> 01:53:53,013
Speaker 3: of our most decorated police officers, and the introduction of

2246
01:53:53,213 --> 01:53:56,533
Speaker 3: criminal profiling into New Zealand. So do feel free to

2247
01:53:56,573 --> 01:53:59,453
Speaker 3: join me tomorrow morning on the Sunday session. To end

2248
01:53:59,533 --> 01:54:02,413
Speaker 3: the show, we have got some more music from Glass Animals.

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01:54:02,493 --> 01:54:05,653
Speaker 3: This is Creatures in Heaven. Have a great Saturday afternoon.

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01:54:05,813 --> 01:54:10,893
Speaker 3: Take care, I think canal. It's just hound much I missing.

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01:54:11,173 --> 01:54:15,053
Speaker 9: Sometimes for a moment we were charge.

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01:54:15,613 --> 01:54:19,533
Speaker 10: We are just creatures and help freezing the moon and

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01:54:19,773 --> 01:54:24,653
Speaker 10: safe inside. Bury me here in your laundry, pilot trees

2254
01:54:24,773 --> 01:54:27,053
Speaker 10: in the morning, These in the moment.

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01:54:27,333 --> 01:54:30,013
Speaker 3: He's in the moment, freezing the moment.

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01:54:30,293 --> 01:54:34,373
Speaker 27: Trees in the more Over, like that, go some motion,

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01:54:34,773 --> 01:54:36,453
Speaker 27: cut it up back, because it's.

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01:54:36,413 --> 01:54:38,973
Speaker 2: Really a moment. Here for a moment.

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01:54:39,293 --> 01:54:43,293
Speaker 9: Here is the moment. Here for a moment. Turt my head.

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01:54:43,413 --> 01:54:46,493
Speaker 28: Does it haunt you too? Taments in the dark in

2261
01:54:46,573 --> 01:54:49,653
Speaker 28: your old bedroom. You tell me, like my mother, maybe

2262
01:54:49,893 --> 01:54:53,293
Speaker 28: just spoil you help me so close that I broken

2263
01:54:53,533 --> 01:54:56,693
Speaker 28: to look it is my head? Does it haunt you too?

2264
01:54:57,293 --> 01:55:01,093
Speaker 9: Never really said I loved you too? Lucky lucky you

2265
01:55:01,373 --> 01:55:04,693
Speaker 9: kus some foot tunes for such small words, but they

2266
01:55:04,813 --> 01:55:08,093
Speaker 9: hit so huge. I don't think cap.

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01:55:08,973 --> 01:55:09,933
Speaker 27: It's just sound.

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01:55:11,133 --> 01:55:17,133
Speaker 18: Sometimes we were yell so wild we were to screechers.

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01:55:18,533 --> 01:55:19,893
Speaker 9: I don't think Capri.

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01:55:21,053 --> 01:55:27,693
Speaker 18: It's just sound this sometimes for a born witch, we

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01:55:27,813 --> 01:55:29,173
Speaker 18: went out screechers.

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01:55:30,333 --> 01:55:31,613
Speaker 15: I don't see the pawn in.

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01:55:31,653 --> 01:55:35,293
Speaker 27: A subtle room man's tent, ton hot ache, sitting on

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01:55:35,413 --> 01:55:39,653
Speaker 27: your back, scared of the crack where the light comes through, Molly,

2275
01:55:39,693 --> 01:55:40,933
Speaker 27: when he when I'm.

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01:55:40,893 --> 01:55:43,573
Speaker 2: Here with you, and he kiss into your head like

2277
01:55:43,693 --> 01:55:47,093
Speaker 2: a cosmic zoom. Cold on the toe, like a long

2278
01:55:47,173 --> 01:55:51,693
Speaker 2: space soup, so long, cowboy who was so cool, cash

2279
01:55:51,813 --> 01:55:55,933
Speaker 2: in hand with the memory you. I don't think Capri.

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01:55:57,093 --> 01:55:58,613
Speaker 9: It's just sound this.

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01:55:59,213 --> 01:56:05,533
Speaker 18: Sometimes we were yell. It's so hard we were you screechers, a.

2282
01:56:07,093 --> 01:56:08,253
Speaker 9: Thing or real.

2283
01:56:09,053 --> 01:56:13,413
Speaker 18: It's just how much I missed you sometimes from all

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01:56:13,613 --> 01:56:17,973
Speaker 18: When we were JOT, we were just creatures.

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01:56:17,413 --> 01:56:26,253
Speaker 27: And help creatures and helven. Back then we were JOT creatures. Hello,

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01:56:27,733 --> 01:56:30,133
Speaker 27: we were just creatures and heaven.

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live

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01:56:38,413 --> 01:56:41,213
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01:56:41,293 --> 01:56:43,173
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