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Speaker 1: Digging through the spins to find the real story. Egoring.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Dupasy on Drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected news talks that'd.

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Speaker 3: Be Hey get afternoon coming up on the show today.

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Speaker 3: The government has more than has its target of reducing

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Speaker 3: violent crime. Will talk to the Police Minister about that.

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Speaker 3: Will also have a chat to the senior doctors about

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Speaker 3: what this strike plans are just announced. And Casey Costello

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Speaker 3: on the flash submarines they're going to use to bust

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Speaker 3: the organized crime. We might throw her a question on pregnant.

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Speaker 1: People as well, Heather Duplicy Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on that subject. To tay you what I really

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Speaker 3: hate that we have to have this debate about what

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Speaker 3: to call pregnant people. And the reason that this debate

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Speaker 3: has popped up again is because Casey Costello is also

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Speaker 3: the Associate Health Minister and has now ordered the public,

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Speaker 3: the health public servants to call pregnant women pregnant women

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Speaker 3: instead of what they were calling pregnant women, which was

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Speaker 3: people with a cervix. Now, frankly, good on Casey Costello

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Speaker 3: for doing this. She's obviously done the right thing, because

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Speaker 3: I would venture that ninety nine percent of the people

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Speaker 3: giving birth in this country are women who identify as women. Therefore,

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Speaker 3: calling them pregnant women is just exactly what you would

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Speaker 3: call them, right, So the simplest phrase to use is

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Speaker 3: pregnant women. But I still hate having this debate, even

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Speaker 3: though I think she's done the right thing. And the

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Speaker 3: so unbelievably frauught and it's incredibly sensitive for trans people

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Speaker 3: in our country, and like most people, I would think,

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Speaker 3: I do not want trans people to feel picked on.

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Speaker 3: But I also hate having this debate because I feel

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Speaker 3: like it's such an unnecessary thing for us to be

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Speaker 3: Any reason we're talking about is is because it's become

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Speaker 3: fashionable worldwide to try to control the words that other

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Speaker 3: people use, in this case, try to force other people

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Speaker 3: to refer to pregnant women as pregnant people to be

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Speaker 3: more inclusive, or people with a cervix to be more inclusive,

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Speaker 3: or individuals capable of childbearing, or any number of other

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Speaker 3: things to be inclusive. You've got offshore exams are very

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Speaker 3: similar things. Breastfeeding has become referred as started to be

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Speaker 3: referred to as chest feeding, and so on and so on,

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Speaker 3: all done with the best of intentions, absolutely, which is

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Speaker 3: to include transgender men who get pregnant. But trying to

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Speaker 3: control what other people say is always a mistake because

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Speaker 3: we don't actually have to police other people's language, right.

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Speaker 3: I think, for the most part, we can trust other

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Speaker 3: who do not trust them and want to police the language.

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Speaker 3: And now we have had to have a case of

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Speaker 3: to keep it simple. It feels so unnecessary and it

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Speaker 3: feels so unbelievably fraught. So frankly, here's a tip to

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Speaker 3: anyone wanting to instruct other people how to talk. Don't

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Speaker 3: just trust them. Most people will be decent. And if

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Speaker 3: And if we don't go for the rules, we will

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen, welcome.

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Speaker 3: To get involved. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 3: Now on something else, a different kind of crackdown altogether.

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Speaker 3: The government is planning to crack down on dog owners

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Speaker 3: who tether their dogs up for too long. Now. The

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Speaker 3: SPCA says this is a significant issue. They get complaints

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Speaker 3: about this every day, and the new rules will allow

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Speaker 3: animal welfare inspectors to intervene earlier. There will also be

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Speaker 3: some protections for pregnant dogs, nursing dogs, and young dogs.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Hogart is the Associate Agriculture in a stand with

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Speaker 3: us now. Andrew, Hello, good right. If you guys, if

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Speaker 3: these officials come across a dog that's been tethered too long,

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Speaker 3: what kind of punishment could the dog owners face?

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Speaker 4: So there is the ability for a five hundred to

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Speaker 4: much for crackdown. It was just there was a gaping

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Speaker 5: Welfare inspector's ability too.

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Speaker 4: You know, they could either just offer advice or go

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Speaker 3: Strikes me that the kind of people there will be

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Speaker 3: pay a fine. Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Quite possibly, there's people who don't pay any fines at

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Speaker 4: all for a whole range of things. But end of

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Speaker 4: the day, it provides RSPCA and MPI welfare inspectors a step.

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Speaker 4: So if people aren't willing to pay a fine, they

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Speaker 3: How long is too long to be tethered?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean quite frankly from a personal level.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't like buying our goldie up for

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Speaker 4: too long. It's only if she breaks the fence and

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Speaker 4: just sneak out. But you know what we've got in

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Speaker 4: these regulations is some sort of outcome based measures.

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Speaker 5: So you know, if the dogs wearing a path, if it's.

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Speaker 4: Got brasions on the neck from the collar, if there's

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Speaker 5: And urine animal abuse right, clear animal abuse?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, are you planning to do anything about

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Speaker 5: That falls outside of my area?

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Speaker 4: Because that is sort of a mix between THEA and

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Speaker 5: There is an element of.

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Speaker 4: Welfare in there and something sort of have approached other

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Speaker 4: have abilities to manage animals within their districts as well.

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Speaker 5: Actually left they don't have to wait for government to

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Speaker 3: Are they doing it fast enough? Do you do? You

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Speaker 3: can you point to a single council in this country

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Speaker 4: I haven't looked into it, and so I wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able.

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Speaker 4: To comment or disparage any particular council for anything it

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Speaker 3: Hey, Andrew, while I've got you, because you know, I

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Speaker 5: But now it's coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you know what's coming. I'm glad that

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Speaker 5: No, we're not.

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Speaker 4: I will be taking some options to cabinet and we're

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Speaker 4: too next but I can I can't go into the

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Speaker 4: details of those. But our position has always been the

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Speaker 4: same from day dot. Basically ninety nine percent of the standard.

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Speaker 4: We agreed with all the composition stuff, totally on board

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Speaker 4: with all of that. It was some labeling that was

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Speaker 4: going to cause a hell of a lot of economic

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Speaker 4: also for those in New Zealand that wanted to know, hey,

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Speaker 4: this is in the product, that's their choice. So it's

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Speaker 4: simply those labeling clauses that we want gone. And so

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Speaker 3: I was I was frustrated on your behalf. Maybe I've

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Speaker 3: your behalf. When on maternity leave, I was reading all

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Speaker 3: these stories about your sister lobbying you, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: maybe your sister lobbied you, but only with common sense,

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Speaker 3: am I right?

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Speaker 4: Well, she didn't actually lobby me because the Dairy Company's

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Speaker 4: Association with which she's the executive director, they didn't take

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Speaker 5: No lobbying on that.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, My office did ask Dairy Company Association on technical

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Speaker 5: Just to do an infant formula.

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Speaker 6: Good on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably gave you more lobbying on the infant

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Speaker 3: formula myself. Andrew, thank you appreciate it. Andrew Hogart, Associate

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Speaker 3: interested in convoluted theories about how he came to reach

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Speaker 3: on the blower. Must have been sixteen past four.

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Speaker 3: Here the skip the fine, take the dog away. Oh lord,

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Speaker 3: he's straight into her own welcome home. Hello, Darcy Hither,

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Speaker 3: Darcy water Grab sports talk host. It's just it's quite

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Speaker 6: I'm just wagging my tail.

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: Really, you're coming with a lot of energy. Have you

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Speaker 3: had some like significant life changes or something. I I've

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Speaker 6: No, I've always got this amount of energy, haven't I.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you have thought it might just I thought they

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Speaker 6: No, No, it's all the same. I'm okay, predictable in my unpredictability.

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Speaker 6: How about that.

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Speaker 3: It's good to see.

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Speaker 6: I'm still feeling great to have you back again.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it's doing good. Yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Nice. How's Junior?

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Speaker 3: She's lovely? You know, she does all the good things, sleeps, eats, poopes,

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Speaker 3: breathe breathe had still breathing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 3: It's constantly cute. So that's nice. Now we're here to

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Speaker 3: talk about sports, so tell me about Mark to Leo. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so when is he actually off to Japan?

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Speaker 7: Well, details are scarce at the moment, saying he's put

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Speaker 7: a social media post up, which is right.

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Speaker 6: I just showed you it.

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Speaker 7: It's very cool little little cartoons, you know, anime. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it is anime, isn't it. It's very modern of you.

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Speaker 7: You know, him and his blues jumper holding up the

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Speaker 6: But after much.

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Speaker 6: No, it was a text.

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Speaker 6: Wantly to have you back, mummy.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: time today, is it, Darcy Watergrass. Let's talk hoast back

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Speaker 1: Getting the facts, discarding the fluff.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 3: That'd be hey. By the way, the senior doctors have

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Speaker 3: Very little detail about it at the moment, but Health

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Speaker 9: I feel super connected to love, so connected to love.

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Speaker 9: Experience has shown me you never know how much love

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Speaker 10: He'd be.

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Speaker 2: Putting the challenging questions to the people at the heart

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Speaker 1: Edb, you told me.

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Speaker 3: This business about preferring to pregnant women as pregnant women.

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Speaker 3: well Darcy. When Darcy was in earlier, I was trying

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump says he is going to de exempt the

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Speaker 11: It's clear that having robust and secure semi conductor supply

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Speaker 3: However, in Australia, both major parties reckon they absolutely can

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Speaker 2: Still on international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

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Speaker 3: Of Australia, we've got Murray Olds our Australia Cross one.

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Speaker 10: Of know Muz my old Mike. Lovely to have you back.

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Speaker 10: How you been pretty good?

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Speaker 3: Well and all the better for having a chat to

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Speaker 10: Well, it's a terrible story. Sixty five year old grandmother

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Speaker 3: Right, Hey, what do you make of this, this track

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Speaker 10: off with labor taker. Listen, this is a song called

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Speaker 10: leaving labor.

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Speaker 14: You need the way that it's supposed to be. The

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Speaker 14: money was spending on groceries. I just want to bust

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Speaker 14: some eggs and cheese one hundred brush.

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Speaker 15: You kidding men?

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Speaker 6: It cost too much to live.

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Speaker 1: The economy is looking a.

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Speaker 14: Mess, man, so we live in check to check. Labor

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Speaker 14: got is still a self stressed. We need to find

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Speaker 14: some loose to switch up to people in pas. I

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Speaker 14: don't want to put the tea mas.

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Speaker 3: I don't trust you. I've gotta be honest as you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're up since when you are a purveyor

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Speaker 3: of fine hip hop Answers this any good.

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Speaker 16: I'm a skinny white guy. He said that I've lost

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Speaker 16: my card too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no answer doesn't know either, Mas, why do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: It's not any good?

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Speaker 10: I mean, look, what's for a time we had politicians

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Speaker 10: who had stuff to say to people. This is just nonsense?

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Speaker 10: Was it created by ai Liberal Party? Says or we're

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Speaker 10: not going to say it's only it's a professional musician. Really,

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Speaker 10: the poor bucker won't be doing any eating in the

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Speaker 10: back of that. That's dreadful. I mean, they've got these

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Speaker 10: two leaders wandering around like halfwits and high visit Hawaiian shirts,

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Speaker 10: with the back of flunkies following on behind, speaking into

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Speaker 10: cameras and microphones, saying the same stuff at different sides

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Speaker 10: of the country. This is what we're reduced to over here.

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Speaker 10: Both promising by billions of dollar he heard Peter Dutton.

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Speaker 10: Who's going to pay for it? I mean it's all

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Speaker 10: going to be borrowed money to pay for these nonsensical

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Speaker 10: promises both sides are making. And have a look who's

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Speaker 10: tanking the last three poles in the twenty four and

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Speaker 10: the twenty four hours just gone. Peter Dutton is heading south,

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Speaker 10: as is his personal ratings. I mean, no one's buying

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Speaker 10: his brand of snake oil and what albaneze. He's saying

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Speaker 10: he might be a snake as well, but he's saying, listen,

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Speaker 10: in trouble times, stick with the snake you've got.

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Speaker 3: Mus I was wondering about this with Peter Dutt and

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Speaker 3: is this a case of people just Peter dunn't seems

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Speaker 3: an incredibly unlikable figure. And it's kind of okay if

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Speaker 3: you just see a little bit of him from time

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Speaker 3: to time, But if you see as much of him

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Speaker 3: as you do in an election campaign, you just don't

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Speaker 3: like what he's selling. Is that what's going on?

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Speaker 10: He's a turn off mate. And here's the thing. He's

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Speaker 10: been in politics since two thousand and one. He entered

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Speaker 10: Parliament as a very young, very capable young man up

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Speaker 10: in Queensland popular He now presides over the most narrow

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Speaker 10: margin in any seed in Queensland. He's the leader of

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Speaker 10: the Liberal Party. He's been a minister for five different

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Speaker 10: Prime ministers on the front bench and this is the

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Speaker 10: best he's got. I think you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 10: The more we see him, the more we dislike him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so Hey, maz, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: You look after yourself. It's good to talk to you,

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Speaker 3: a mate. That's Murray Old's Australia correspondent, right, Chris Luckson,

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Speaker 3: So Chris Luxon, Prime Minister has weighed in on whether

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Speaker 3: it is the right thing to tell the people in

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Speaker 3: the Health Department to start referring to pregnant women as

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Speaker 3: pregnant women instead of pregnant people or my personal favorite

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Speaker 3: people with a cervix.

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Speaker 17: Saying, let's use common sense, practical language. Pregnant people are women,

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Speaker 17: as as simple.

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Speaker 1: As that, right, So let's just do that.

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Speaker 17: Let's just use clear language and we continue to have

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Speaker 17: targeted language for different communities within our across the whole

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Speaker 17: of New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Coglin on that shortly seventeen away from five.

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Speaker 2: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Coglan, the Herald's political editors with us A Thomas,

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Speaker 3: I hear that. Listen this business of the government heading

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Speaker 3: this crime target four years earlier. This is obviously good

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Speaker 3: news for them. Right, goes without saying.

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Speaker 16: Yes, it does go without saying, and I think there's

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Speaker 16: no political saying or if there isn't It probably should

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Speaker 16: be that it's never too early to declare victory, which

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Speaker 16: is what the government is doing here. You'll remember remember

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Speaker 16: a few a few years ago the Labor government declared

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Speaker 16: victory on the budget responsibility rules a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 16: and then they started borrowing again after that declared victory.

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Speaker 16: So I think the government's sort of taken a nice

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Speaker 16: surprise here that they've got the crime target at the

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Speaker 16: target as a twenty twenty nine target. They want to

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Speaker 16: reduce the number of victims of violent crime by twenty

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Speaker 16: thousand by twenty twenty nine compared with October twenty twenty

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Speaker 16: three according to the latest New Zealand Crime and Victims Survey,

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Speaker 16: which isn't actually out yet. They're releasing the data a

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Speaker 16: bit early they have had that target, so I think

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Speaker 16: they're declaring victory now because there's probably a good chance

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Speaker 16: that the number creeps up again. That Paul Goldsmith, the

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Speaker 16: Justice Minister, is saying that data is a bit lumpy,

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Speaker 16: so so you know they'll might go down a bit further,

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Speaker 16: it might bump up a bit more. So I guess

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Speaker 16: that the proof, the proof of whether they are successful

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Speaker 16: as whether they can keep that number down for the

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Speaker 16: long term or whether it bounces around a bit, but

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Speaker 16: you can you can certainly see why when it has

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Speaker 16: gone down as dramatically as it has done, they're declaring

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Speaker 16: an early victory.

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Speaker 3: Only trouble with it is we can't be sure how

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Speaker 3: much of this is actually falling within the coalition's term

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Speaker 3: versus Labour's term, right, because it covers both.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I think, I think that is. I actually don't

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Speaker 16: have the exact period there.

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Speaker 3: But February twenty three to February twenty four and Luxon

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Speaker 3: becomes Prime minister in descend between.

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Speaker 16: Two or there you go. Yeah, so so yeah, you're

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Speaker 16: you're you're quite right. So so yeah, and once again,

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Speaker 16: you know, the proof of whether this is successful will

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Speaker 16: be whether they managed to maintain maintain that that factory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah brilliant. Okay, Now what do you make of this

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Speaker 3: business with Chris lux and supporting the term pregnant women?

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Speaker 3: Is he going to get himself into trouble with some

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Speaker 3: sensitive members of our community?

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Speaker 15: Uh?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, i'd imagine. So when you do, when you

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Speaker 16: do go out on the limb on is shoes like this,

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Speaker 16: you tend to you tend to make yourself a target

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Speaker 16: for for some criticism. So I imagine he is going

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Speaker 16: to be a target for criticism. Actually, you know, I

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Speaker 16: haven't seen any polling on this. It's not a very

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Speaker 16: it's not a very well polled area. But I would

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Speaker 16: I would imagine that that the government focus groups and

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Speaker 16: polls pretty pretty clearly on it, and he's probably probably

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Speaker 16: with somewhere within the pack of mainstream uteal and political opinion.

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Speaker 16: It's interesting, you know that the most national well I

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Speaker 16: shouldn't say most, a large number of NETS were in

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Speaker 16: favor of the conversion therapy bands. So they're not they're

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Speaker 16: not they're not totally you know that they're not completely

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Speaker 16: anti transgender or anti you know, modern gender sort of theory.

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Speaker 16: I guess, yeah, that there is a large diversity of

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Speaker 16: opinion within the NETS on that issue. But but you know,

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Speaker 16: on this particular one, on the on the issue of

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Speaker 16: of language, the PM and and Casey Costello, who's New

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Speaker 16: Zealand First Minister, have been pretty clear where they stand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thomas, what are the senior doctors looking for when

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Speaker 3: they go on strike? What is it they want?

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Speaker 16: They so Simmy and Brown, there is there's a bit

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Speaker 16: of a dispute here they they are looking for, I guess,

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Speaker 16: some better conditions to pay as everyone as everyone is simmy,

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Speaker 16: and Brown is actually pushing back on on on on

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Speaker 16: on the the amount of pushing back on them quite strongly,

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Speaker 16: saying that their average total remuneration at the moment is

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Speaker 16: three hundred and forty three thousand dollars. Now that the

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Speaker 16: doctors are pushing back on that figure cited by Browns

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Speaker 16: and there's a bit of jiggery pokery and back and

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Speaker 16: forth on that issue, but it is, I mean, it is.

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Speaker 16: It is one of those challenging issues. I actually spoke

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Speaker 16: to Bill English a little while ago on the issue

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Speaker 16: of gps who are who are quite well paid as well,

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Speaker 16: and and he made the point that actually, with other

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Speaker 16: professionalized areas of work where people are paid pretty well,

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Speaker 16: some areas of the health system are actually poorly, poorly

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Speaker 16: remunerated when you look at other sort of top level jobs.

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Speaker 16: And so they're looking across as you know, some of

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Speaker 16: the top lawyers and accountants or whatever, and and feeling

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Speaker 16: and feeling a weet bit hard done by. And of

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Speaker 16: course when you're when you're top salary medical specialist and

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Speaker 16: you're a new Zealand citizen. Then you've got the opportunity

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Speaker 16: of hopping on one way, playing to Australia one way,

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Speaker 16: take it to Australia and increasing your pay that way.

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Speaker 16: So the governments of the government's pretty pretty torn here

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Speaker 16: between obviously wanting to keep these people here they know

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Speaker 16: they can name their price, but also, you know, all

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Speaker 16: that money has to come from somewhere. The health system

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Speaker 16: has been increasing its baseline spending like crazy over the

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Speaker 16: last ten years. There really is limited money to go around,

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Speaker 16: and a lot of that money, you know, it needs

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Speaker 16: to go to these salary medical specialists, but it also

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Speaker 16: needs to go to frontline nurses who are also who

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Speaker 16: are also angling for pay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, Hey, thank you, Thomas really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Coglan, the Herald's political editor. So the Facebook post

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Speaker 3: from Samim Brown, the Health Minister. He says it's deeply

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Speaker 3: disappointing that the Association of Salary Medical Specialists union is

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Speaker 3: going on strike, and then he runs through as Thomas

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Speaker 3: was just saying, all of the lovely little treats that

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Speaker 3: he obviously perceives that the senior doctors get. They also

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Speaker 3: receive significant remuneration for the key role they play, with

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Speaker 3: an average total remuneration of three hundred and forty three thousand,

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Speaker 3: five hundred dollars. Senior doctors received six weeks of annual leave,

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Speaker 3: fully paid three months sabbaticals every six years, and reimbursement

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Speaker 3: for medical licenses, college memberships and insurance. They are well

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Speaker 3: supported and it's important to acknowledge the full package they receive.

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Speaker 3: That union is going to be with us ten PUS five.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a chat about that. It's nine away from five.

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Speaker 2: Putting the tip questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 18: The government wants a word with you on the new

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Speaker 18: Sex Said guidelines for schools.

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Speaker 6: The Education Minister Erica Stanford's.

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Speaker 1: Back for this.

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Speaker 19: We don't have all the answers. Nobody does. But what

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Speaker 19: we've had in the past is a vague curriculum that

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Speaker 19: leaves it up to schools who have to go out

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Speaker 19: every two years by law and consult with their communities

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Speaker 19: about what to teach.

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Speaker 1: And when this does take any of the aks out.

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Speaker 19: Of it, well, I think there will still be anks,

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Speaker 19: of course, but direct that aks at me, do not

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Speaker 19: direct it at your schools. I'd rather that I take

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Speaker 19: the heat on us than they have to do that.

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Speaker 19: We want to have this curriculum that tells parents exactly

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Speaker 19: what will be taught, the words that will be used,

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Speaker 19: so they can make an informed choice about what their child.

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Speaker 18: Six am the mic Hosking breakfast with the rain driver

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Speaker 18: of the Lahn used talk.

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Speaker 2: Zeb beat hither.

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Speaker 3: I'm a senior medical officer and Sime and Brown forgot

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Speaker 3: to mention that we also get ten days of CME

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Speaker 3: every year, travel days to international conferences which is often

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Speaker 3: another week a year, and a day of long service

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Speaker 3: leave every year. Senior medical officers who are in full

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Speaker 3: time actually only spend forty weeks of the year and

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Speaker 3: working of that time, thirty percent of it as non

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Speaker 3: clinical time. Just thought you should know god thing you

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Speaker 3: didn't sign off with your name there, mate, Otherwise all

660
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Speaker 3: your colleagues would be calling up to tell you off

661
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Speaker 3: because you've just made Simmy and Brown's case for him. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to the union when they're with us shortly.

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Speaker 3: Those figures the crime figures that Mark Mitchell's talking about here.

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Speaker 3: So the problem here is absolutely why, as Thomas Coglan

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Speaker 3: was just saying before, why waste an opportunity. Why miss

666
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to crow about your successes and trouble of

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Speaker 3: courses that the figures cover February twenty three to February

668
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Speaker 3: twenty four, and this government only takes over in December

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Speaker 3: twenty three, so there's a longer stretch under Labor than

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Speaker 3: there is under National. But anyway, Mark Mitchall's going to

671
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Speaker 3: be with us very shortly and we'll see if he

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Speaker 3: can explain that for us, Heather, why do we care

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Speaker 3: if people are upset that the prime minister's saying pregnant women?

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Speaker 3: You don't see many pregnant men walking around. This is

675
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Speaker 3: just ridiculous. It's ridiculous that we're even debating it. Why

676
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Speaker 3: we're asking about that is because everything in politics is

677
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Speaker 3: about politics, isn't it. I mean, he might you'd be

678
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Speaker 3: naive if you think that everything had come out of

679
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Speaker 3: Christopher Luxen's mouth is something that he truly believes. There

680
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Speaker 3: will be an aspect of what he's saying which is

681
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Speaker 3: designed simply to get votes and not to deter votes.

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Speaker 3: And given that Christopher Luxeen has not done a lot

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Speaker 3: of things that I would consider to be brave, I'm

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Speaker 3: quite surprised that he's gone out on a limb on

685
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Speaker 3: this particular one, because there'll be a whole bunch of

686
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Speaker 3: people on the left of politics will get very very

687
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Speaker 3: upset about this, just on behalf of the trans community.

688
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Speaker 3: So anyway, well as I say, Casey Costello's with us

689
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Speaker 3: after half pastwa have a chat to hear about that,

690
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Speaker 3: I'm going to have to talk at some stage about

691
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Speaker 3: something that's very cool that's come from the Reserve Bank,

692
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Speaker 3: which is a GDP tracker which they've popped up on

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Speaker 3: their website and attracts GDP almost in real time. Now.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because if you've been following any of the

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Speaker 3: debates around the performance of the Reserve Bank, you'll know

696
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Speaker 3: by now there's been a lot of criticism of the

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Speaker 3: Reserve Bank being unable to, i don't know, get things right,

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Speaker 3: keep its finger on the pulse. And and part of

699
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Speaker 3: the reason why it's perceived that they get things wrong

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Speaker 3: is because the data isn't coming through far enough. They

701
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Speaker 3: just don't get enough regular data. Well now they're showing

702
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Speaker 3: us their real time data and it's fascinated. So you

703
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Speaker 3: can go on the website go look at this thing

704
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Speaker 3: called Kiwi GDP, which uses a broad range of economic indicators.

705
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Speaker 3: As these indicators are being released, it's things like manufacturing

706
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Speaker 3: data and labor data, and tourism data, housing and construction

707
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Speaker 3: blah blah blah, you name it, it's on there. And

708
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Speaker 3: they pump that all into their little computer system and

709
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Speaker 3: out pops what they consider the GDP number at the

710
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Speaker 3: moment to be in this particular quarter. And they updated

711
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Speaker 3: every Friday, and this past Friday at updated current GDP

712
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Speaker 3: projected GDP between December and March quarters to be zero

713
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Speaker 3: point eight percent. Anyway, brad Olsen think we were like,

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Speaker 3: how is this going to work? Thank God we've got

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Speaker 3: Brad Olsen on the show after six o'clock. He'll be

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Speaker 3: able to talk us through that hopefully and give us

717
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Speaker 3: a view as to how accurate it is, because you

718
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Speaker 3: just know there's a whole bunch of nerds up and

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Speaker 3: down this country who are going to go there every

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Speaker 3: Friday now and be Friday little alert on their phone

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Speaker 3: game look at the GDP and probably there are heaps

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Speaker 3: of them in this team. To be honest, here's two ZV.

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Speaker 14: Two name maybe we can codes get up Buffy she said,

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Speaker 14: is life.

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Speaker 1: Forever, And so you're to get there. Then let's lead.

726
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Speaker 6: We can dance.

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Speaker 2: We can dance on nine, digging through the spins, spence

728
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Speaker 2: to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Sory, it's Heather Duplicy on.

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Speaker 2: Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 5: Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: While the government has already had its target of reducing

734
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Speaker 3: victims of violent crime, it wanted that number to drop

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Speaker 3: by twenty thousand people. It's now dropped by twenty eight

736
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Speaker 3: thousand people. And it wanted to drop the number by

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine, twenty twenty nine. It's already there. Mark

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Speaker 3: Mitchell is the Police Minister and with us now, how much, Hi, Heather,

739
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Speaker 3: what do you reckon cause the number to drop off

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Speaker 3: so in such a big way?

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Speaker 15: Oh?

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Speaker 20: I just think that obviously, as the incoming government, we

743
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Speaker 20: had a big focus on public safety, which meant that

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Speaker 20: we stopped releasing people from prison. The previous government had

745
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Speaker 20: a target of around twenty percent, which they achieved. At

746
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Speaker 20: the same time we had an over thirty percent increase

747
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Speaker 20: in violent crime. We've gone the other way. Plus you've

748
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Speaker 20: had obviously some very good legislation come through, a gang legislation.

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Speaker 20: But fundamentally I think that For me, I'm very proud

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Speaker 20: of the work that both the police and corrections have

751
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Speaker 20: done as my agencies, but this is a whole of

752
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Speaker 20: society response. Local government have been really good to work with.

753
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Speaker 20: You've got cpn Z, you've got our Mary Wardens, you've

754
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Speaker 20: got community groups that are all sort of working.

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Speaker 3: Together to tackle the problem.

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Speaker 20: The police can't do it on their own, and although

757
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 20: we've got a long way to go, this is a

758
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Speaker 20: really good early start.

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Speaker 3: How much of this, though, can you actually claim credit

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Speaker 3: for given that some of this falls, in fact, most

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Speaker 3: of us falls within Labour's period.

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Speaker 20: Well, yeah, it's funny you say that. When the first

763
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Speaker 20: survey came out three months into government and there'd been

764
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Speaker 20: a massive increase, we were blamed for that, and now

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Speaker 20: sixteen months in when we see a decrease Labored some

766
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Speaker 20: people are trying to give Labor the credit. I completely

767
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Speaker 20: reject that. We've seen We've definitely seen the numb and

768
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Speaker 20: the police numbers starting to reduce. We've got a very

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Speaker 20: different approach around public safety. We're putting victims first, and

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Speaker 20: I think we're starting to see the results.

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Speaker 3: That I noticed. Though there's a warning there that these

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Speaker 3: numbers are going to be volatile, which feels a little

773
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Speaker 3: bit like you guys are hedging your bets and possibly

774
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Speaker 3: preparing for it to go up again. Is that right?

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Speaker 20: Well, that's the nature of this, is it for as

776
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Speaker 20: long as people have been committing crime, is that you'll

777
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Speaker 20: get peaks and troths. What we want to what we're

778
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Speaker 20: aiming for is as a long term trend downwards and

779
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 20: that's what we've focused on and that's what we want

780
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Speaker 20: to deliver for the country.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, keep it up, Thank you very much, Mark Mitchell,

782
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Speaker 3: the Police Minister.

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Speaker 1: Heather due for sy Alan senior doctors.

784
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Speaker 3: Have an answer that they're going to go on strike

785
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Speaker 3: on the first of May for a full day, twenty

786
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Speaker 3: four hours. It means around three hundred planned procedures and

787
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Speaker 3: first specialist assessments and up to four three hundred radiology

788
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Speaker 3: procedures will have to be canceled now. Sarah Dalton is

789
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Speaker 3: the executive director of the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists. Say,

790
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Speaker 3: Sarah Calder, Heather, doing very well, Thank you. What is

791
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: it that you guys are after.

792
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Speaker 21: Well, we've put in a claim for twelve percent. One

793
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Speaker 21: of the reasons for that is that the RMOS some

794
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Speaker 21: people call them junior doctors received quite good pay settlements

795
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Speaker 21: last year. That has means that some of those junior

796
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Speaker 21: doctors when they become a specialist, take a pay cut.

797
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Speaker 21: So it's really about trying to maintain relativities between SMOs

798
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Speaker 21: and RMOS.

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Speaker 3: Is that twelve percent on top of the average salary,

800
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Speaker 3: which is what three hundred and forty three thousand dollars?

801
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Speaker 21: Oh my god. If our members were earning on average

802
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 21: three hundred and forty thousand dollars, there would be no

803
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 21: strike and if that is an offer from the minister,

804
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Speaker 21: we would love to accept it. That is a made

805
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Speaker 21: up number.

806
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it made up because because a twelve percent pay

807
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Speaker 3: increase on top of that is forty thousand dollars.

808
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Speaker 19: It's quite a lot.

809
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Speaker 21: Yeah, but our members aren't earning on average three hundred

810
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Speaker 21: and forty thousand dollars. Now, we wouldn't need a twelve

811
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Speaker 21: percent pay increase. Is that that that was actual average

812
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Speaker 21: way incomes?

813
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Speaker 3: What's realistic?

814
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Speaker 21: I'll probably close it to two hundred and forty thousand,

815
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Speaker 21: which still sounds like a lot, right, Yeah, But we

816
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Speaker 21: have to think about what senior doctors actually do because it's.

817
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Speaker 3: Still a pay increase of what it would be around

818
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Speaker 3: about thirty thousand bucks, isn't it.

819
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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's a serious increase that our members are looking

821
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Speaker 21: for a serious work that we do and we don't

822
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Speaker 21: have enough doctors here.

823
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Samon Brown has gone public with not only the

824
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Speaker 3: average salary, but also six weeks of annual leaf fully paid,

825
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Speaker 3: three months ofbbaticals every six years, reimbursement for medical licenses,

826
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Speaker 3: college memberships and insurance and so on. I guess kind

827
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Speaker 3: of trying to win the public relations battle there. Do

828
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Speaker 3: you think you're up against it?

829
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

830
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Speaker 21: He's also put in his document about the Direction for

831
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Speaker 21: the Health System put out at the beginning of March,

832
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Speaker 21: that New Zealand nurses earn almost the same amount as

833
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Speaker 21: nurses in New South Wales. If there was a case

834
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Speaker 21: for doctors again, we wouldn't have this problem. There is

835
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Speaker 21: a massive pay gap between New Zealand and Australia and

836
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Speaker 21: we are losing doctors to that country.

837
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Speaker 3: Sarah, thanks very much for talking to us at Sarah Dulton,

838
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Speaker 3: the executive director of the Association of SOUD Medical Specialists.

839
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Speaker 3: It's eleven past.

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Speaker 1: Five, Heather Doopers the al look.

841
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Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that this business with

842
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: the Trump tariffs is quite an unnecessary kerfuffle. But if

843
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: we're looking for some silver lining, we may have found

844
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: a tiny, tiny, tiny sliver of silver lining here. It

845
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: is now predicted that if this does carry on the

846
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Speaker 3: way that it is, it's going to drop inflation in

847
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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Now that is probably counter to what you're expecting,

848
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Speaker 3: because obviously tariffs put up prices. Higher prices lead to

849
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: higher inflation, you would think. But what the Reserve Bank

850
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: has gone public and said today is that actually, because

851
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Speaker 3: the higher prices because of the tariffs slowing down global

852
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: growth and of course domestic growth, what that will do

853
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: is drop inflation. And they tend to favor the idea

854
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: that it drops inflation rather than raises inflation. And therefore,

855
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 3: if you're looking for some more silver lining there, lower

856
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: inflation means lower interest rates in the long run. It's

857
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: not great, I mean, ultimately overall not a great situation.

858
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 3: But I think we'll take whatever good news we can

859
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: out of this situation, won't we. Thirteen five? Hey, by now,

860
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've heard a lot about the new BYD

861
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: Shark Sex. Well, I've been driving one and let me

862
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: tell you, saying game changer about this particular vehicle doesn't

863
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: even do it justice. I have been loving the shark,

864
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: have been loving the driving around town is an EV

865
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 3: and then switching to the hybrid mode on those longer

866
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: trips out of town. And let me tell you, this

867
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: vehicle actually packs quite a hefty punch. It is grunty.

868
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: It's got four hundred and thirty horsepower, it can do

869
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: zero to one hundred ks and just five point seven seconds,

870
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: and driving it just feels better when you've got the

871
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: peace of mind and you feel like you can really

872
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 3: trust because with BYD you're going to get a six

873
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 3: year warranty on up to one hundred and fifty thousand

874
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: k's and eight years of roadside assistance. And of course

875
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: it feels pretty good when you're driving a car with

876
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: super low emissions as well. Now you can drive one

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Speaker 3: with all the whistles and bangs and all the flash

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Speaker 3: fun value. And it's even backed by a key we

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Speaker 3: Come and Kiwi dealers so what's not to love for more?

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Speaker 3: And I reckon you need to check this out. Go

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Speaker 1: NZ Heather Dupless the Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, it looks like Simeon Brown is going to

887
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: win the pr battle against the doctors just judging by

888
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: the text coming in just an example. OMG, Heather, who

889
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: do these doctors think? They are totally out of touch

890
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: with what most people could ever hope to earn? Another one, Heather,

891
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: Great to see you back. Just want to comment on

892
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 3: the senior doctors and their desire to get additional money

893
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: out of a failing and very poor health system. I

894
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: totally rejected. I've got terminal cancer. I'm paying one hundred

895
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Speaker 3: and thirty thousand dollars to get the cancer treatment. So

896
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: you can see how this is going to go. Seventeen

897
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: past five. Now, if you're looking for a promotion, you

898
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 3: should probably stop working from home. A survey has been

899
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Speaker 3: done by this recruitment company, Robert Half. They've survey Kiwi

900
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: employees and found fifty eight percent of us reckon there's

901
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: a correlation between being in the office and then getting

902
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: a promotion. Meghan Alexander from Robert Half is with us

903
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Speaker 3: a Meghan, hi, head, how are you? And very well?

904
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Speaker 3: Thank you? Are they right? Do you have to turn

905
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: up to get the job?

906
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Speaker 22: Well, there's definitely a perception of that, and so I

907
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 22: guess is that out of sight, out of mind mentality.

908
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 22: Now you can agree or disagree, but I guess a

909
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Speaker 22: lot of the feedback that comes back from the employer

910
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 22: side is that you can do tasks at home, but

911
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 22: you can't add to the culture of an organization. You

912
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 22: can't necessarily collaborate and build relationships, and those are key

913
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Speaker 22: parts to getting promotions.

914
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: Is it that or is it actually that it just

915
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: looks lazy as well.

916
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Speaker 22: Look, I think some people can absolutely do their job

917
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Speaker 22: from home. I think it does come down to job dependent.

918
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Speaker 22: You know what your tasks are. But if you're looking

919
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 22: for career and climbing the ladder, you know, relationship building

920
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 22: is pretty critical and that's pretty hard when you're sitting

921
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 22: at home not talking to anybody.

922
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: This is what I think is bizarre. Okay, fifty four

923
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: percent of the people you Guys surveyed said they would

924
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: come into the office more if they were told by

925
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: their bosses that being in the office would lead to

926
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Speaker 3: a promotion. I mean, surely you should just read the room.

927
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Speaker 3: You don't need to be told.

928
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Speaker 22: Well, and look, employers are telling staff that they need

929
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Speaker 22: to get back to offices. Oh you know, there's been

930
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 22: a very clear and distinct change in the last eighteen months,

931
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Speaker 22: and so employers are really demanding this and making people

932
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Speaker 22: come back. So you know, and we did a comparable

933
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Speaker 22: survey in Australia and interestingly enough, seventy four percent of

934
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Speaker 22: Australian employers believe the same thing, that there is a

935
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Speaker 22: correlation between promotion and being in the office. So you know,

936
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Speaker 22: if both parties are saying this, you would think common

937
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Speaker 22: sense would prevail.

938
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Speaker 3: And yet we never cease to amaze and it doesn't prevail. Oh,

939
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Speaker 3: thank you, Meghan, I really appreciate a Megan Alexander Robert

940
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Speaker 3: Harp listen. Is as simple as do I need to

941
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: explain this to you. It's as simple as this. If

942
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 3: you can't be fact getting out of your dressing gown Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

943
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Speaker 3: Thursday and Friday, you're not going to get a promotion,

944
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Speaker 3: are you? Nineteen past five?

945
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Speaker 1: Checking the point of the story.

946
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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplasy Ellen drive with one new Zealand, let's

947
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: get connected and youth talks.

948
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Speaker 3: They'd be Yeah, Heather, great to hear you're back, but

949
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: you were foaming sitting on the bench during Trump's tariff

950
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: own goal. Welcome back, Thank you, Glenn Lord above. I'll

951
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: tell you what, if there's one thing you need to

952
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: know about me, is that I have somebody in the

953
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: house who's got Trump arrangement syndrome. So I can't talk

954
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: about it. It's like a no go zone. We can't

955
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: talk about Trump at all. So when it was happening,

956
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: we just kind of pretended it didn't happen. Otherwise it's

957
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: just gonna have a very angry human being in the house.

958
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: So I was everything I was feeling I was feeling

959
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: internally by myself five point twenty two. Listen to tell

960
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: you what I am off of you, that it is

961
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: time for authorities to start cracking down real hard, like

962
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: really hard on bad dog owners. When I was on

963
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: maternity leave, apart from trying to ignore Donald Trump, I

964
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: was trying very hard not to read too much news

965
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: because I was just trying to get away from work

966
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: a little bit. But there was one story that I

967
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: saw pop up on the Herald a newser that I

968
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: actually had to click on, and I did, and that

969
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Speaker 3: was the news report about that cutty cutty dog attack

970
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: about three weeks ago where the three dogs killed the

971
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Speaker 3: four year old boy and all three of those dogs

972
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Speaker 3: were unregistered. Now, I clicked on that news report because frankly,

973
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Speaker 3: dog moulings freak me out at the moment in a

974
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Speaker 3: way that they never have because it's too close to home.

975
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Speaker 3: Because I'm constantly trying to keep my three year old

976
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Speaker 3: boy away from dogs that look like they're grumpy, including

977
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Speaker 3: this morning at our local park, because they're everywhere.

978
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Speaker 1: Now.

979
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've noticed. I've certainly noticed, because

980
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: I've started to see a pattern here that we've had

981
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: a space of moulings in the last couple of years,

982
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: and we very clearly have a massive dog issue on

983
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: our hands, not only dogs that are mouling, but dogs

984
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: that are roaming, dogs that are unregistered. It just feels

985
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: like it's kind of exploded a wee bit, and I

986
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: am not seeing a corresponding urgency from authorities to deal

987
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: with this particular issue.

988
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 15: Now.

989
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we've had the announcement today that the government's going

990
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Speaker 3: to crack down on owners that tether their dogs too long.

991
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: But I still feel like it's a bit we're wet bustikety,

992
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 3: isn't it. What's the punishment for them if they tether

993
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: their dogs too long? Oh a fine, just a fine.

994
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: And at what level do they get cracked down on? Well?

995
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: Quite clear, dog abuse is what it takes to get

996
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: a cracked down, you know. It is like the worst

997
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: extremes of what you would see with dogs. That copper fine.

998
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that's good enough. And sure you know

999
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: at the local government levy you've got councils like Auckland

1000
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: Council currently having a crackdown on the unregistered dog owners

1001
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: and warning them that they are on their absolute last

1002
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: legs and they've got to register their dogs. But the

1003
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: punishment for failing to do so after repeated warnings remains

1004
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: pretty lame. It's a fine or it's going to court.

1005
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: They get to keep the dog. I would not be

1006
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: that lenient if I was in charge of the situation.

1007
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 3: I would just be turning up and saying, yeah, twenty

1008
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 3: eight days to register your dog. You didn't register your dog?

1009
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: Dogs coming with me and I put the dog down,

1010
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: simple as that. Because as the Council says there is

1011
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: a link between unregistered dogs and dogs that end up roaming,

1012
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: roaming and dogs that attack people. And I think we

1013
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: are well past the point where we need to get

1014
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: tough on these dogs. Sure the dog owner is not

1015
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: going to be stoked about it. They're not gonna be

1016
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: happy they've got a dead dog. But that's a better

1017
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 3: out come, I would say, than having a dead kid.

1018
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: Don't you think my patients with these dogs ran out

1019
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: a long time ago, and these owners in particular, and

1020
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: I for one, want to see a hard crackdown coming

1021
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: because frankly, I don't know how many more incidents like

1022
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: the one in Katti Cutti we have to have before

1023
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: we start taking this problem with our dogs seriously together?

1024
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: Do for ce Ellen.

1025
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: Casey Costello is going to be with us after the headline,

1026
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: So let's sayd about ten minutes time have a chat.

1027
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: They've got these two cool little unmanned subs that they're

1028
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: sending out's called Tahi and the RUA just launch them

1029
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: in Devenport today. They're gonna send them out and they're

1030
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna go patrol our oceans and keep an

1031
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: eye out for the bad guys who are dumping bags

1032
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: of pea in the ocean to be intercepted by the

1033
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: other bad guys and all that kind of stuff, And

1034
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to her about that because that's

1035
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: pretty cool, but also want to talk to her about

1036
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 3: this business with the pregnant women and people with the

1037
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: cervix and all this kind of stuff, as much as

1038
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: getting involved in this cultural wal stuff gives me the

1039
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: absolute ick, like I think it does most people, because

1040
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: we're just constantly going, I don't want to upset anybody here.

1041
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: This is kind of significant stuff that probably needs to

1042
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: be dealt with in a kind of nice way. So

1043
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: we'll have a chat to her about that. Can I

1044
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: just say, I haven't do not ruin it for me.

1045
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: I haven't finished White Lotus because I've been very busy parenting.

1046
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: So I've got about half an hour ago. So if

1047
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: you text me now and tell me who dies, you're

1048
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: gonna die, because I'm gonna send that curse your way

1049
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: because I'm nearly there, but I just can't get there anyway.

1050
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 3: So because i've been watching The White Lotus, I have

1051
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: been enjoying very much. Amy leu Wood, what a revelation

1052
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: is this chick, you know, you know, the one with

1053
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: the teeth. That's who I'm talking you know, you know,

1054
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: she owns those teeth. She loves those teeth. She's like,

1055
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: look I've got gap teeth, look at me. It's cool.

1056
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: And because of that, you just love her even more.

1057
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: But Saturday Night Live did a skit where they took

1058
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 3: the mickey out of her teeth, and she watched it

1059
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: and she she didn't enjoy it. Right, So what it was,

1060
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: and I'm going to play a little bit. You can

1061
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: kind of ever listen to it, But basically what they

1062
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: did is they did the white lotus setting and put

1063
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of characters that looked like Donald Trump's

1064
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: team in a circle there, and they started taking the

1065
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: mickey out of it. And in this particular scene, RFK

1066
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: is sitting there talking about fluoride and he's talking to

1067
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: her and then she turns around and you see her teeth.

1068
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: Wait what we took all the floor right out of

1069
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: the drinking water. But the woman that do the people's teeth,

1070
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: all right, what.

1071
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 18: Oh, look you go kill it and eat it?

1072
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: No, not the fulcare. So she's taken to Instagram and

1073
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: she said it was mean and unfunny and look to

1074
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: be honest, maybe she's being a wee bit on the

1075
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: thin skin side, right, because if you've got prominent teeth

1076
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: like that, people are gonna take the mickey out of

1077
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: her teeth. But but if she feels like it was

1078
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: mean and unfunny, then good on her for saying it,

1079
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 3: and I just I'll cut her a lot of slack

1080
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: because I really like her. But also, can I just say,

1081
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: just use this as an opportunity to say good on

1082
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: her for calling out Saturday Night Live, because it's not

1083
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: just that skit that was mean and unfunny? Is it

1084
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: just me? Or is most of all Saturday Night Live

1085
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: does just unfunny? Like I don't know the last time

1086
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: I watched one of their skits and thought, well, that's banger,

1087
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: that's hilarious. So anyway, winner is Amy Lou because she's

1088
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Speaker 3: cool and loser is Saturday Night Live. News Talk said be.

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Speaker 2: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Heather First.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplessy Ellen drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected, and news Talk said b.

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Speaker 3: Heather, my daughter was attacked by two dogs who lived

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Speaker 3: next door. Bitten in the leg and the BUM and

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Speaker 3: the animal control people said they needed to escalate further

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Speaker 3: before they can take serious action. We're gonna talk to

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Speaker 3: Huddle about that shortly. I've got Stuart Nation and full

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Speaker 3: O'Riley in and also I need to tell you what's

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Speaker 3: going on with the three G right now. It's twenty

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Speaker 3: four away from six first though, we had two brand

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Speaker 3: new sub unmanned submarines launched in Devenport today. The new

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Speaker 3: ships are named Tahi and Rua, and they're going to

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Speaker 3: be used to intercept Class A drugs before the drugs

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Speaker 3: get into the country. Now, Casey Costalo, the Customs minister. Hey, Casey,

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Speaker 3: hi here, how are you very well? Thank you? So

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Speaker 3: these subs are they just surveillance subs? Are they?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: So they're uncrewed vessels, so they have solar powered, they're

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Speaker 24: wind powered. Say, I think the maximum they've been out

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Speaker 24: to sea without any staff at one hundred days. So

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Speaker 24: there can do long distances for long periods of time

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Speaker 24: doing surveillance. So they're fantastic.

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Speaker 3: And then what happens What if they see something dodgy

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Speaker 3: going on out there? What do we do?

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Speaker 24: So they're all linked up through cameras and data, so

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Speaker 24: they're always monitored. They're effectively at crew back at their

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Speaker 24: control command post, which monitor all their activity and send

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Speaker 24: information back real time. So yeah, we're really really excited

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Speaker 24: because they can reach a lot further and a lot

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Speaker 24: less risk to people and a lot cheaper to run.

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Speaker 24: So they're fantastic.

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Speaker 3: And so what happens is, let's say they see somebody

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Speaker 3: dumping gigantic bag of pea in the ocean to be

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Speaker 3: picked up, photos come back. Do we then send out

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Speaker 3: a boat to go pick it up.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, So it's a part of a response. It's about

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Speaker 24: intel networks, it's about monitoring the oceans, about early warning

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Speaker 24: of vessels that maybe haven't reported in a whole lot

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Speaker 24: of monitoring and data intelligence that they gather as well

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Speaker 24: around activity. And you know, we have the eleventh largest

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Speaker 24: maritime border in the world, so you know we need

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Speaker 24: to do a lot smarter and a lot better about

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Speaker 24: how we cover those distances.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's going to ask you, I mean, if we've

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Speaker 3: got we've got this massive area that we've got a

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Speaker 3: patrols two, enough do we need.

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Speaker 24: Well, this is this has been part of a trial.

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Speaker 24: So seven months ago we were trialing this to see

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Speaker 24: what we could do. And now where we've got these

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Speaker 24: first tours of MoU between Defense and customs and it's

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Speaker 24: just one of another tool and toolbox kind of thing.

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Speaker 24: So it will be allowing us to stretch out towards

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Speaker 24: spec if they can do a lot more support and yeah,

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Speaker 24: so it's just you know, we're building up capability and

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Speaker 24: this is part of the Defense Capability Plan that Minister

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Speaker 24: Collins has put out. We'll just keep growing out our

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Speaker 24: capacity and working with Customs and Defense. This is a

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Speaker 24: part of what we've been talking about as our agency

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Speaker 24: work in cooperatively.

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Speaker 3: Casey, listen on this business of ordering the health New

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Speaker 3: Zealand guys to start saying pregnant women instead of pregnant people.

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Speaker 3: How's that gone down with them?

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Speaker 24: Well, this is where it's sort of training. So surprised

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Speaker 24: that was such a novel response because I mean, actually

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Speaker 24: there's been no pushback. It's just about the fact that

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Speaker 24: we have a woman's health strategy. I'm the Minister in

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Speaker 24: charge of women's health. So to suggest that we're just

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Speaker 24: talking about women when we're dealing with women's specific issues

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Speaker 24: seemed logical and practical option to do. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 24: not sure why there's this adverse reaction was I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, because I'm just trying to get a handle on

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Speaker 3: exactly what was going on in health New Zealand. It

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Speaker 3: didn't seem like it was it was a hard and

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Speaker 3: fast policy there to use phrases like pregnant people or

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Speaker 3: people with a cervix, right, it felt like they were

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Speaker 3: kind of using it interchangeably with pregnant women, Is that right?

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Speaker 24: Well, yeah, this was the part you know that really

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Speaker 24: it just came down to, well, when we're talking about

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Speaker 24: specific issues, you know, cervice, you know, cvical cancers, things

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Speaker 24: like this, we need to be recognizing that these are

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Speaker 24: very significant women's health issues and if there's anything we

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Speaker 24: can do to better connect with women, and we know

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Speaker 24: statistically with Marty, Pacifica, other ethnic communities, we are seeing

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Speaker 24: them connecting with health services later and pregnancies we're not

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Speaker 24: seeing them connect with you know, those regular checks and

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Speaker 24: things that we need to do that are very specific

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Speaker 24: women's health issues. So we need to be clear about

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Speaker 24: we are targeting women and we want women to reach

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Speaker 24: out and connect as much as possible with health services,

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Speaker 24: and if there's other demographics that we need to connect

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Speaker 24: with better. Then let's work about specific programs with us.

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Speaker 24: But you know we have a women's health strategy and

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Speaker 24: that is targeting women and that's what I want to

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Speaker 24: focus on.

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Speaker 3: Casey, thanks very much for you time. Appreciate It's Casey Costello,

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Speaker 3: the Customers Minister, twenty away from Sex.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the ones with

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Speaker 2: worldwide connections that perform, not promise.

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Speaker 3: Hud all with us this evening for Low Riley and

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Speaker 3: Stuart Nash lads.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hew are you going?

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Speaker 25: Welcome back?

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Speaker 3: He thank you, Phil, thank you Stewart you there, welcome

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Speaker 3: back here.

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Speaker 18: That were you a pregnant person?

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Speaker 3: I was a pregnant Did you enjoy doing a pregnant person?

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Speaker 3: I was a person with the service? I was a

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Speaker 3: person with the service. I proved that obviously, So that's good.

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Speaker 3: I think it's wonderful that we've got two lads talking

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Speaker 3: about women's issues today, just to really fire up the lobsters. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I feel what anything?

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 3: Do you think Casey's done the right thing here directing

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand to use the term pregnant women.

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Speaker 25: That she is absolutely right to do so. And in fact,

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Speaker 25: I spoke to a very liberal female colleague of Mind

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Speaker 25: the Staffternoon, knowing there was going to be two blokes

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Speaker 25: on the show, and said, what do you make of this?

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Speaker 25: And she absolutely agreed with what Casey Costello was doing

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Speaker 25: for the same reason. And it is that that you

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Speaker 25: can take these things too far. I mean, I'm all

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Speaker 25: for inclusion. It's a very important thing, and you know,

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Speaker 25: I'm a champion of all of that, but if you

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Speaker 25: take it too far, you get a reaction and it

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Speaker 25: turned against itself. And I agree with Caer. I think

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Speaker 25: Karen Sure from Act this afternoon, by doing the sort

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Speaker 25: of thing, you're actually canceling women. You're you're you're actually

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Speaker 25: ignoring women, and I think that's absolutely right. So I'm

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Speaker 25: all for inclusion. I think it's an important thing, but

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Speaker 25: in this case, I think case yourself is absolutely right.

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Speaker 25: It's about women. We should be focusing there because they

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Speaker 25: hopefully will turn up feeling included in the health system.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckonsume?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 18: Look, I celebrate people's different sexuality. If you're straight, bisexual, gray, trans, fantastic,

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Speaker 18: go hard and live your best life. But in my

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Speaker 18: very simple world, Heather. If you've got a penis, you're

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Speaker 18: a man. If you've got a vagina, you're a woman.

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Speaker 18: I mean, is that terribly Is that terribly difficult to

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Speaker 18: get hit around?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: When you said that, I am, for the first time

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Speaker 3: utterly convinced that you're going to run for New Zealand. First,

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Speaker 3: you're in the Labour Party, would you well I probably

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Speaker 3: would have.

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Speaker 18: And it's one no longer there.

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Speaker 15: See.

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Speaker 18: The thing is is that I think ninety six ninety

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Speaker 18: six point five percent of New Zealanders agree with that. Now,

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Speaker 18: there's always a small friend's day, the MS, et cetera.

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Speaker 18: And like I said, I celebrate people six quality. Those

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Speaker 18: battles have been fought, and one a long long time ago.

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Speaker 18: You know, we had a gay deputy prime minister for

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Speaker 18: three years. He did a fantastic job. No one cared

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Speaker 18: about his sexuality. They cared about his character and his competency.

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Speaker 18: But but you know, pregnant THEMS, I don't quite get that.

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Speaker 18: It just doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 3: I'm still gone. Then, yeah, are you going to run

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Speaker 3: for New Zealand?

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Speaker 18: First, I'm not denying anything. I mean, I've got him

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Speaker 18: an immense amount of protect for Winston and isn't he

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Speaker 18: doing a great job in America? We are very lucky.

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Speaker 6: We are very lucky.

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Speaker 18: We have the best politician in this country, the most

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Speaker 18: seasoned politician in America, representing us in these most troubled times.

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Speaker 25: I mean Willmington, central mate and old vocal Phil.

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Speaker 3: Was that a confirmation or what?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Totally?

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Speaker 3: But do you know what, Stu? Because I sent you

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Speaker 3: a text about it when I read it in the papers.

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Speaker 3: I know you didn't text me back rude, But as

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Speaker 3: I said in the text, you're too good at politics

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Speaker 3: to be out at the such a young age, So

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Speaker 3: we'd be lucky to have you back, I think, don't

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Speaker 3: you think?

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Speaker 18: Oh, that's a very close thing to say. If I'm

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Speaker 18: enjoying having a beer with mates and not having to

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Speaker 18: worry about some clam with a camera taking a photo

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Speaker 18: and putting up on some you'll worry about it in

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Speaker 18: a minute.

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Speaker 15: Though.

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Speaker 3: Hey, A and Sell, you're a dog owner. Do you

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Speaker 3: think your dogs, the kind of dogs that you love,

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Speaker 3: the sausage dogs, are not really much of a threat

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Speaker 3: to us, So I expect that you would. You'll agree

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Speaker 3: with me that we're not doing enough to crack down

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Speaker 3: on the bad dog owners.

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Speaker 1: Yet I would I.

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Speaker 25: Agree, but I looked at that. I looked at the

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Speaker 25: background of that story. Actually, so this what's been announced

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Speaker 25: by Andrew Hogart is penalties for those who don't look

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Speaker 25: after the dogs, you know, excessive tying them up and

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Speaker 25: not cleaning up after them. And it's one of the

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Speaker 25: saddest and most tragic things I see as a dog lover,

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Speaker 25: and many people out there like me. You'll see me

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Speaker 25: walking down town Hey Street and my little dashed in

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Speaker 25: the morning. So I get really upset about that. It

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Speaker 25: hits me in the heart when I need dogs being

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Speaker 25: abused by that that's a different thing to dogs abusing

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Speaker 25: other humans. Because I checked that this afternoon, and as

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Speaker 25: she has already quite a lot of penalties available on

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Speaker 25: those matters. If your dog bites someone else, your dog

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Speaker 25: bite someone else, you are liable, You can be fined,

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Speaker 25: your dog can be taken away from me un destroyed.

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Speaker 25: So already in those circumstances there's already quite a few

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Speaker 25: penalties and so on. It So this issue it's missing

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Speaker 25: of when I abuse a dog, and I think that's

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Speaker 25: I think Andrew howg has done exactly the right I

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Speaker 25: think you should we strengthen up the other ones? Maybe,

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Speaker 25: but I you know, I don't see those as being

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Speaker 25: the major issues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I think dog owners will agree. The major issue is,

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 25: you know, dogs themselves being abused by by loser owners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to come back to you on that. You

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: just hold you hold your thoughts and they will get it.

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: After the break, it's call to two.

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Speaker 2: The huddle with New Zealand South Beast International Realty achieve

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00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: extraordinary results with unparalleled reach.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back of the huddle, Ste, What do you think?

1312
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: Ste Nash Phillo Riley? What do you think about the

1313
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: dog's issue?

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Speaker 18: Ste couldn't agree more with Phil. You know, we've got

1315
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 18: a fox red lab. He's a He's a boisterous fellow,

1316
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 18: sleeps at the base of the beachit when I'm there.

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00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 18: I agree with you, you know who would treat dogs badly?

1318
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 18: I mean just something that the vast majority of key

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00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 18: Wes and all your listeners I think agree with. I

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00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 18: think how goes down the right thing. Phil and I

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 18: on the on the same page in this one.

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Speaker 3: I guess the problem that I have with it, Phil,

1323
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: as I don't think that they're going hard enough on

1324
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: all of these issues with dogs. Right, if you've got

1325
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: a dog that has been tethered up to a ken

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00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: all for so long that they have abrasions on their

1327
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: neck and that they've worn the ground down and they're

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: sitting in their own poop, then I don't think a

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00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: fine is sufficient. I think you take that dog away.

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Speaker 3: That's quite significant abuse.

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Speaker 25: Well, I think that's right. I mean, as a dog lover,

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 25: and there's the same If she's right, there's plenty of

1333
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 25: people on listening to this, so he'll be dog lovers.

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Speaker 25: I'd put them in jail. But I mean, at the

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 25: end of the day, I think that's you've got to

1336
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 25: be a bit proportionate about this, because we don't put

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00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 25: people in jail except for very re sale.

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Speaker 3: Take the dog and put the dog down. I mean,

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00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: if you're leaving your dog in that state, you don't

1340
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: deserve a dog.

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Speaker 25: I quite quite agree with that. You definitely take the

1342
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 25: person and you'd also ban them from owning a dog

1343
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 25: for for a long time, although it's also quite difficult

1344
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 25: to kind of enforce. But I think I definitely agree

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 25: with that that that should be quite a serious matter.

1346
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 25: If you abuse not just a dog, but an animal

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Speaker 25: more generally, because you know, as Stuart says, that we

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00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 25: don't deserve dogs, and they're faithful, faithful companions and they're

1349
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 25: basically defenseless, so we should.

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Speaker 1: Not dople them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, Now, Stu, do you think that the

1352
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: government can claim the credit for the crime step win today?

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01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 10: Oh?

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01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 18: Well, they claim credit when the stets are good, and

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 18: they keep quiet when the stets are they're still talking

1356
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 18: about well over one hundred and fifty thousand victims of

1357
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 18: crime here, so there's still a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 18: I mean, thank goodness, the last government when I was

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01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 18: Minister of Police, put eighteen hundred more officers on the beat.

1360
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 18: They're struggling to fund the current ones they want to

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01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 18: put in place. But look, I've had a immense amount

1362
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 18: of respect for the men and woman and blue out

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 18: there keeping our community safe. Any thought of defunding the

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Speaker 18: police is an anephema to me. Go hard and congratulations

1365
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Speaker 18: to the to the young police service and the wonderful

1366
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 18: job they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Phil, I mean Stew's right, right, it's politics. Are

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01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: you going to claim the win for it? If you

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01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: if you have an opportunity, that's course.

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Speaker 25: It's a bit like inflation when it's gone down. The

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01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 25: government his ey, it's great. I saw a couple of

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Speaker 25: bobbies on the beat, so that I was up by

1373
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 25: Sky's City and there's a couple of bobies on the beer.

1374
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Speaker 25: I literally felt like walking up from saying thank you.

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01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 25: I feel safer that you're here, because you know around

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 25: that area around sky City and that walk from city

1377
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 25: can be a bit egy from time. Yeah. Yeah, so

1378
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 25: she felt like I felt like she's given them but

1379
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 25: wouldn't give a pad on the sholder because they might

1380
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 25: arrest me. But you know, to talk to them to say, actually,

1381
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 25: as a citizen, can I just say how much I

1382
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 25: appreciate you being on the beat and that that makes

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01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 25: me feel better and I know what will make other

1384
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 25: people feel better as well. Of course that with these

1385
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 25: with these kind of the challenge with the government owning

1386
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 25: those numbers is they'll bounce around, and of course it

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01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 25: gives an opportunity for the opposition to say.

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Speaker 5: Look at that.

1389
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Speaker 25: Bouncers up, Oh, look at that.

1390
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Speaker 5: You've got that wrong.

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01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 14: You know.

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 25: That's so it's a risky political strategy, but I can

1393
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 25: understand they want to own the good news, particularly when

1394
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 25: Tamoth has been raving on about decounting the police Lord

1395
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 25: Tamitha Stu.

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Speaker 3: Now, listen, you're you're in recruitment and you this is

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: your wheelhouse, right is it just me? Doesn't seem obvious

1398
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: that you are more likely to get a promotion if

1399
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 3: you're in the office and not at home and you're

1400
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 3: dressing gown.

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01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 18: It kind of seems obvious. Keep in mind though, that

1402
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 18: these figures are those involved in finance and it and

1403
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 18: so yeah, if you if you are involved in those years,

1404
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 18: you kind of do have to be in the office

1405
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 18: to you know, to answer the tricky questions of the

1406
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 18: of the big cheeses. But but you are right, I'm

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01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 18: a little old fashioned in this. I mean I struggle,

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 18: for pet for the concept of working from home more

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 18: than sort of one day a week, because I just

1410
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 18: don't think people are as productive. Some are desperately I suppose.

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01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 18: But but be back in the office that it's you know,

1412
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 18: there's human socialization and the exchange of ideas around the

1413
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 18: around the water cooler, I think is a really valuable

1414
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 18: part of being a high performing team.

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Speaker 3: Totally, phil you just if you're not, if you can't

1416
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: put your clothes on and catch the bus and come

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01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 3: to work. You're just lazy, aren't you.

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01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 26: Well.

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Speaker 25: I see a lot a lot of young people come

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 25: to me for career advice for reasons that escape me,

1421
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 25: but they do anyway. And one of the things I

1422
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 25: say to them is turn up, turn up at the office,

1423
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 25: be there before your boss, and be there under. Now

1424
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 25: that may sound old fashioned, but actually it's not, because

1425
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 25: the boss is going to look around one day and

1426
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 25: it's going to say I need someone to do this

1427
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 25: interesting project, or I've got or I've got a question

1428
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 25: I've got to ask, or I've got a task we've

1429
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 25: got to give. And I look around and I see

1430
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 25: Dave or Mary sitting there and I say, great, why

1431
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 25: don't you do that? And you get an opportunity to shine.

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01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 25: So it's not about being old fashioned. It's about being

1433
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 25: in the right place at the right time and actually

1434
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 25: having the capacity to shine when the opportunity presents itself.

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 25: Because that's actually how, particularly he's a young person, you

1436
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 25: get ahead. I think there's less of an issue for

1437
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 25: middle aged and order people, very job dependent to Stewart's point,

1438
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 25: and also a bit of flexibility is appreciated, but the

1439
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 25: young people are turning up and being there for that

1440
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 25: very reason is really important. That's the advice I give

1441
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 25: to all young people who ask.

1442
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 18: Heav a shave erown your shirt, make sure you look

1443
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 18: smart and do the job right.

1444
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 25: Yeah yeah, rockets and be up for a big opportunity

1445
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 25: for the rises. And that's about being there.

1446
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: Jeez, that was such good advice for I can see

1447
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 3: why the young ones come to you guys. Thank you

1448
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: very much. Yeah, it's not that bad at all. Billow Riley,

1449
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm you partners and Stewart Nash, former Labor Party minister

1450
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: and New Zealand first candidates and waiting, isn't he Eight

1451
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: away from six It's.

1452
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Speaker 3: It's five away from six. Heather read the story of

1455
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: a lady at Hakaru who got molled a few weeks

1456
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: ago by the problem dogs her nigh, but also got

1457
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: attacked when he went to help with Steve. I actually

1458
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: have read that she was painting her house or something

1459
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 3: like that. Wasn't she She was busy to doing some

1460
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: reno's or something and the dogs broke through the fence

1461
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: and came for her. I mean, like, I don't know

1462
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 3: how many more stories we have to read about the

1463
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: stuff before we actually start taking this stuff seriously. It's

1464
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: pretty freaky these dogs. And as somebody said, the thing

1465
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 3: that annoys me the most when you ask a dog

1466
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: owner to put their dog in a lead is that

1467
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: they say it's all right, that friendly. I don't know

1468
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: how many times I'll tell you what, I've noticed this

1469
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 3: quite a bit where you go, oh, that dog looks

1470
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 3: at that dog looks a bit grouchy and agrow in

1471
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: the ander, go that's fine. They love childrin They love Childrinne.

1472
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: And you're like, mate, I can see your dog does

1473
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: not love the situation right now. Why do you say

1474
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: that they love children in anyway? One time I was

1475
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 3: at a cafe. This sounds at the start of a

1476
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 3: bad story, but it's not. One time I was at

1477
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 3: a cafe and a corimandel and the little boy ran

1478
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: up to a dog and the dog got it, pulled

1479
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: its ears back, and I was like, whoa, We're gonna

1480
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: stay away from that dog. And they were like, that's fine,

1481
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: love child rin And I was like, ah, just my

1482
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: gut says nah, And I was like, come with me, dude,

1483
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 3: took the boy away, went back to the cafe the

1484
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: next day for a coffee and they were like, good

1485
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: thing you pulled Iggy away from that dog, because that

1486
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: dog went a bitter lady after that. And I was like,

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01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: there you go. Listen.

1488
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Speaker 5: Three G.

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01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: Three G is going to be turned off in this

1490
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: country by the end of the year, maybe early next year.

1491
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: And there are a lot of people who are still

1492
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: using three G for their phones and stuff. So they

1493
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 3: did this in Australia caused mass problems. So we're going

1494
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: to head over to Australia after the news after six

1495
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: o'clock and just find out what we got to do

1496
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: right and wrong in order to avoid the same kind

1497
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: of trouble that they faced. Can I just say quick

1498
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: shout out to Robert Erwin's mun because if it wasn't

1499
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: for her, I would totally have missed because I went

1500
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: on a bit of a news blackout over my maternity leave.

1501
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 3: I almost missed Robert Erwin's bond.

1502
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: Shoot.

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 3: Now, if you're like, who are you talking about, it's

1504
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: the crocodile hunter's son. So he's probably about twelve, but

1505
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: he decided that he needed to get in his nickers

1506
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: and do a shoot for bonds, and I missed it

1507
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 3: because I was on my news. I sadly missed it

1508
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: because I was on my news blackout. But thank goodness

1509
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: because this mum piped up today and said, we're not

1510
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 3: sure that we like Robert's bonds shoot because a bit

1511
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 3: off brand for the family, thereby ensuring that it hit

1512
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: the newspapers all over again, thereby ensuring that I saw it.

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 3: Can I say thank you to what's the face missus Irwin?

1514
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: Because if you if you're sitting at home right now

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Speaker 3: and you're a bit bored, you're like, oh, I got

1516
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: nothing to look at on my phone. Just google it,

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Speaker 3: Robert Irwin Bonds. You're welcome. You are welcome. Newstalks, it'd be.

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Speaker 1: What's up, what's down? What with a major cause and

1519
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: how will it affect the economy?

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Speaker 2: The big business questions on the Business Hour with hither

1521
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: duplicy Ellen and Ma's insurance and investments, grow your else

1522
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: protect your future?

1523
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Speaker 1: The use talks be even in coming up in the

1524
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: next hour.

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 3: Brad Olson's going to talk us through that new tool

1526
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 3: the KeyWe GDP forecaster from the Reserve Bank, Paul blocks

1527
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 3: them out of Australia on the Reserve Bank over they're

1528
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: planning to cut rates again next month and then Rowena

1529
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 3: Duncan on what's going on with DARIA missions back here

1530
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 3: in New Zealand at seven past six. Now, heads up,

1531
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: if you are running some old technology, it might pay

1532
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: to double check that your phone or whatever else you're

1533
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: running could still work at the end of the year

1534
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: when the three G networks get turned off, because all

1535
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 3: major talcos are planning to turn off their three G

1536
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: either at the end of the year or possibly early

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Speaker 3: next year. Australia did the same thing last year and

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01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 3: early this year and it did lean to a bit

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01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: of a problem over there. Or Associate Professor of Engineering

1540
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: at the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Mark Gregory is

1541
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: with us. Hey Mark, Hello, how bad did it get

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01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 3: with you guys?

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 6: Very bad?

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Speaker 23: There were more problems than you could wish for over here.

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: Okay, So some of the problems, from what I understand

1546
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: is that when the three G network was turned off,

1547
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: everybody thought there would be four G coverage or five

1548
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: G coverage. But that wasn't always the case, was it.

1549
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Speaker 23: No, Most certainly because the antenna systems were changed at

1550
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 23: the same time. So we need to remember that signal propagation,

1551
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 23: in other words, the direction and the distance that signal

1552
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 23: moves from the towers are affected by the transmission system,

1553
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 23: the antennas and the way that they're tuned. And during

1554
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 23: the changeover, many of the towers actually changed their characteristics.

1555
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 23: And so what happened was that in quite a few areas,

1556
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 23: customers lost coverage. So we had pictures of farmers standing

1557
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 23: in the middle of their farm where they used to

1558
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 23: have coverage and now they've not got coverage, and so

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 23: they've got three G or now that'd upgraded to four

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 23: G devices you know, including farming sensors, farm equipment, and

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 23: you know, their own devices and their vehicles and no connectivity.

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01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 23: And so we're still struggling with this problem today. So

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01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 23: the number of complaints has gone up quite significantly in

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 23: relation to telecommunications, and we need to keep that in

1565
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 23: mind that there's no guarantee at the end of the

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01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 23: turnover that customers will have coverage.

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Speaker 3: Not always the I mean some of us. It sounds

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01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 3: like some of the devices cell phones for example, can

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01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 3: actually be switched. I mean they may say the four

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01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: G five G compatible, but they still need three G

1571
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 3: to make the phone call, but it sounds like they

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 3: can be reprogrammed slightly to be able to do without

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Speaker 3: three G.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well, some devices. So what happened, of course, was

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Speaker 23: that we had three G and there were three G

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01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 23: devices being sold, and then they announced they were going

1577
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 23: to start migrating to four G. And so what happened,

1578
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 23: of course was a lot of companies rushed out what

1579
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 23: they called or branded four G devices and four G phones,

1580
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 23: and of course they weren't and so these devices were

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01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 23: really three G devices with four G on the cover,

1582
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 23: and so they were using like a four G for data,

1583
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 23: but they were still using three G for phone calls. Now,

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 23: that's all very good, but the most important thing, of

1585
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 23: course is safety. And so what they found over here,

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 23: after a bit of investigation and a bit of a

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01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 23: prompt in the media from myself, was that there are

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Speaker 23: a large number of devices that, even with them saying

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Speaker 23: that they were able to make four G phone calls,

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Speaker 23: they weren't able to connect to the TRIPLEO emergency service

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Speaker 23: that we have in Australia. And so there was another

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Speaker 23: whole group of phones that were going to be a

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01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,440
Speaker 23: problem because at the end of the day, the telecommunications

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01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 23: network should be all about safety. We need to be

1595
01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 23: able to call the emergency services. So there are different

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01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 23: groups of phones. There were three G phones, there were

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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 23: four G phones without the voiceover LTE, there were four

1598
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 23: G phones that couldn't be used to make calls to

1599
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 23: triple zero services. And there were devices that were not

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 23: seven hundred megaherts capable. Now, seven hundred megahertz band was

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Speaker 23: used in Australia for the for the analog television channels,

1602
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 23: and so when the analog television was moved to digital,

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01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 23: that freed that band up for telephone for mobile. Yeah,

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01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 23: and that was called the digital dividend. Now, what happened,

1605
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 23: of course, was that there was a whole group of

1606
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 23: phones at that time that were not seven hundred megaherts capable.

1607
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 23: So even though they claimed black and Blue that are

1608
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 23: four G phones wouldn't work with seven hundred megahertz problem.

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01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 23: And so a large number of our.

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01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 3: Sites, we still have some of these phones available for

1611
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: sale in New Zealand that are basically going to rely

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 3: the three G network. How do you tell I'll give

1613
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: you a human going out there and wanting to buy

1614
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: a cheap phone. How do you know it's still going

1615
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 3: to work.

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 23: Well, this is where this is where the confusion came in.

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01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 23: So this was really phase two of the problem here, right.

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01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 23: So you had a safety problem, you had a consumer problem,

1619
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 23: you had farming problem, you had manufacturing problems, you had

1620
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 23: health problems medical devices again, you know, you had all

1621
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 23: the same problems with medical devices devices people have in

1622
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 23: their homes, the emergency call devices and the sea path

1623
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 23: machines that many males and you know many people use,

1624
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 23: not just males, but but you know that many people

1625
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 23: used today, and the list just goes on and on.

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01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 23: So what happened, of course over here was that the

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 23: government had to step in and they announced that there

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01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 23: was going to be a delay between the two major

1629
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 23: networks telstrenoptists being able to turn off their networks. Votaphone

1630
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 23: got through by being the early mover and turned theirs

1631
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 23: off the year before, and with the smaller number of

1632
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 23: customers on voter Phone and the fact that they don't

1633
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 23: really at that time didn't really offer services in rural areas,

1634
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 23: they escaped through the process. But tell ustown optic a

1635
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 23: whole new kettle of fish. Governments that had to step

1636
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 23: in announced that there was going to be a delay

1637
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 23: before that. The shutdown effect that it ended up being

1638
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 23: several months or more. They had to have helplines that

1639
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 23: had to do an advertising campaign, they had to start

1640
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 23: talking about it in the media, and they really had

1641
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 23: to get off their backsides because it was going to

1642
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 23: be a major disaster.

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 3: Well, you put in the frighteners up me. Mark, here's

1644
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,879
Speaker 3: hoping it doesn't happen here. Appreciate it. Mark Gregory, Associate

1645
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 3: Professor of Engineering at the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology.

1646
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: Get a load of this hither. This three G thing

1647
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 3: really shits me. I have a Tesla Model S. Yes,

1648
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: you know, I know you're thinking in one of those people.

1649
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,799
Speaker 3: Well I'm not really, I'm just cheap. I bought it secondhand.

1650
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 3: It came with free Yes, free is my second favorite

1651
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,839
Speaker 3: four letter F word supercharging for life. Anyway, it's connected

1652
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: to the Tesla mobile via three GS. They've emailed me

1653
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 3: and they've told me it's being switched off. So now

1654
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 3: I have to get an MCU upgrade. And how much

1655
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 3: do you think they quoted for it? Four thousand bucks?

1656
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 3: So turning off the three G means that Tesla has

1657
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 3: just gone up in price by four thousand bucks to upgrade.

1658
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: Fourteen past six.

1659
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

1660
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: on my Heart Radio empowered by news dog ZEPPI got

1661
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Speaker 2: a bit.

1662
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: Of news for you on intrastrates bank instrates RBA's interest rates.

1663
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: We'll get to that very shortly right now at seventeen

1664
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 3: past six. Now, the Reserve Bank economist Paul Conway over

1665
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 3: here reckons all those new trade tariffs from Donald Trump

1666
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 3: are going to lead to lower inflation in New Zealand.

1667
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 3: Brad Olsen as infametrics principle economist and with us ay

1668
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: brat Good Evening, I would have thought, I mean, you know,

1669
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 3: when you talk about tariff's, your first conclusion is actually

1670
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 3: that is going to lead to higher inflation. Do so

1671
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 3: it makes sense to you the lower inflation forecast.

1672
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 5: It does.

1673
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 27: I mean, I think also Paul Conway has highlighted here

1674
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 27: that the Reserve Bank still thinks there's a lot of

1675
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 27: water to go under the bridge and they're still trying

1676
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 27: to figure out it exactly what the impact will be.

1677
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 27: But at the same time as yes, tariffs raise prices

1678
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 27: in the US, and that's I think probably where the

1679
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 27: reference comes from those higher price expectations that we keep

1680
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 27: talking about with tariffs are concentrated a bit more for

1681
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 27: the consumers that are paying the tariffs, and those are Americans.

1682
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 27: For us at home, if we're seeing less trade activity

1683
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 27: starting to come through, you know, businesses that normally export

1684
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 27: from New Zealand don't have quite as many as much demand.

1685
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 27: They're not getting as much money in the door, They're

1686
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 27: not able to spend out as much on other New

1687
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 27: Zealand businesses. And if demand generally in the economy comes down,

1688
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 27: there's probably not as much ability to pass on some

1689
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 27: of those pricing pressures. And so we do wonder if,

1690
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,839
Speaker 27: like the Reserve Bank, if some of this tariff activity

1691
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 27: might well see lower prices than otherwise here at home.

1692
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 3: Okay, now what do you have? You had to look

1693
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 3: at the KIW we GDP, I have.

1694
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 27: The new sort of model coming out. I mean it's

1695
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 27: a useful addition, I think to the conversation. I think

1696
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 27: we've got to be clear that the Reserve Bank is

1697
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 27: not saying this is their death. It actual only GDP expectation.

1698
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 27: But I think it's useful to add into the mix,

1699
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 27: particularly because we know that other central banks around the world,

1700
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 27: particularly the US Federal Reserve over in the States has

1701
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 27: something similar where they do try to at least outline

1702
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,520
Speaker 27: a bit where they're thinking is and probably more importantly

1703
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 27: how it evolves, because that's the thing that we're noticing.

1704
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 27: Even in the data the last couple of weeks, as

1705
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 27: there has been some ups, there has been some downs.

1706
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 27: Yesterday we had new tourism data out in New Zealand

1707
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 27: that showed slightly better numbers. At the same time card

1708
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 27: spending show that spending activity was down to touch, you know,

1709
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 27: the likes of the housing numbers out today, again just

1710
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 27: another figure into the mix. So I think this model

1711
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 27: will give us a little bit more of a clue

1712
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 27: potentially where GDP could land at the end of it,

1713
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 27: and the Reserve Bank just wanting to put a little

1714
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 27: bit more data out there so that we can have

1715
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 27: a more informed conversation. But again I don't think this

1716
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 27: will replace what they're doing in terms of their estimates

1717
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 27: that they put out in similar but it adds just

1718
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 27: a little bit more transparency around some of the areas

1719
01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 27: that they look into.

1720
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 3: Is it very dif into what MASSI University is running.

1721
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 27: Slightly different in terms of where the data comes from

1722
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 27: and probably the weights and similar they put onto it.

1723
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 27: The likes of GDP Live that Massy University put out

1724
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 27: some of that's got some quite big data sets from

1725
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 27: you know, like the Kiwi rail, from food stuffs and

1726
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 27: similar This model that the Reserve Bank is running with

1727
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 27: KWE GDP is much more based around official statistics and

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Speaker 27: when they come out over time, but generally they seem

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Speaker 27: to give you know, similarly informed results. When you start

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Speaker 27: to see some more challenging retail numbers coming through, both

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01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 27: of the models will pick that up, but in slightly

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01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 27: different ways. So again, I don't think we're going to

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Speaker 27: use this number and go that's definitely going to be it.

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Speaker 27: The numbers will keep being revised and they'll change, but

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Speaker 27: it does let us have a bit more of a

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Speaker 27: look under the hood of what things could be driving

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 27: the economy at any point in time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff, Hey, Brad, thanks very much appreciated brad

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Speaker 3: Elson Inframetrics principal economists here. The most of the Selwyn

1740
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: district will have no reception once the three g gos

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Speaker 3: running through those interest rates. Shortly six twenty one.

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Speaker 2: The Rural Report with m DE Animal Health home of

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Speaker 2: world Leading Animal Identification.

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Speaker 3: Six twenty three and with me now is Rowena Duncan

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: of the country. Hey roight, hey ever, now what's brought

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Speaker 3: these dairy greenhouse gas emissions down?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's an interesting one.

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Speaker 28: So we had the report released this afternoon from the

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Speaker 28: New Zealand Greenhouse Gas Inventory showing that methane emissions from

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01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,839
Speaker 28: agriculture now three point seven percent below twenty seventeen levels

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Speaker 28: and it's really down to a drop in cow numbers.

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01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 28: For dairy in particular, it's down three point seven percent.

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Speaker 28: On the plus side, though average milk production per cow

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Speaker 28: rows by one point eight percent, but beef and land

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Speaker 28: New Zealand have obviously been pretty badly hit in the

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Speaker 28: red meat sector and they're saying, you know, this is

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Speaker 28: going to continue to reduce in the next few years

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Speaker 28: due to land change.

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Speaker 15: Chair Kate Ackland says.

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Speaker 28: The report should be a good news story that our

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Speaker 28: emissions are down, but actually when you look into it further,

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Speaker 28: the primary driver has obviously been the conversion of productive

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Speaker 28: sheep and beef farms into forestry for carbon offset, and

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Speaker 28: she says like while the industry might be heading towards

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Speaker 28: the current twenty thirty target.

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Speaker 15: It's for the wrong reasons, and the.

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Speaker 28: Reductions are being achieved by a reduction in stock numbers,

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Speaker 28: and that's just allowing fossil fuel limitters to continue emitting

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Speaker 28: by kind of saying that it's okay to offset your

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Speaker 28: carbon emissions. So if you look at some of the

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Speaker 28: facts here, we're losing a lot of heat. Dares to

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Speaker 28: when whole chef and bay farms were sold for conversion

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Speaker 28: into forestry, particularly for carbon farming. And I'm going to

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Speaker 28: be chatting to the Prime Minister on the country tomorrow

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Speaker 28: and Jamie's absence and actually just saying, you know, Todd

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Speaker 28: McLay came out on the fourth of December last year

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Speaker 28: saying that was something the.

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Speaker 15: Government were going to look into.

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Speaker 28: But when is this legislation going to come into effect

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Speaker 28: that prohibits wholesale conversions from farmland into forestry because farmers

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Speaker 28: are still getting pretty upset yep, And.

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Speaker 3: There's a fair amount of it's still going on. We've

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Speaker 3: got the global dairy Trade auction since the tariff's announcement

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Speaker 3: is the first one. What do we expecting?

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Speaker 28: Yes, yeah, so the market's calling for about a three

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Speaker 28: percent increase in whole milk powder, maybe flat for skim

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Speaker 28: milk powder and hopefully increase and hydrous milk fat.

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Speaker 15: We're at the back end of the season, you know,

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Speaker 15: there's very little.

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Speaker 28: New Zealand product available. People are looking at starting to

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Speaker 28: dry their cows off. Their lactation curve is decreasing, so

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Speaker 28: that should kind of support the pricing. So if that

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Speaker 28: plays out, good result and it'll set us up nicely

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Speaker 28: for the new season.

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Speaker 15: On June first, brilliant stuff.

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Speaker 3: Row, thanks very much, look after yourself and good luck

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Speaker 3: with it. Tomorrow it's Row Duncan of the country. We're

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Speaker 3: going to have poor blocks them out of hspec hcbc's

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Speaker 3: chief economists out of Australia with us very shortly and

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Speaker 3: talk us through what the RBA is expecting with the

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Speaker 3: interest rates back here. You'll be happy to know if

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Speaker 3: you're if here, you know, come around to that and

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Speaker 3: there are still those of us who are rolling off

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Speaker 3: those those awesome interest rates and coming back and having

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Speaker 3: to refix. You're going to be pleased with what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Kiwibank and a Ins have both dropped their home loan

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Speaker 3: rates unfortunately also the deposit rates. But the home loan

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Speaker 3: rates basically after that official cash rate cut last week.

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Speaker 3: So Kiwibank's got the six month rates come back by

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Speaker 3: sixteen basis points, one year fix rate, that's the big

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Speaker 3: ones come back by twenty basis points. A and Z's

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Speaker 3: got the six month back by forty basis points, one

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Speaker 3: year back by thirty basis points, and eighteen months back

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Speaker 3: from by twenty basis points. So a fair amount of

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Speaker 3: savings zero if you want to go on and lock

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Speaker 3: them in, listen, Can I just give a quick shout

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Speaker 3: out to the stoners in Auckland because wow, oie, what

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Speaker 3: is going on here? Is that I've only noticed two,

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Speaker 3: but it could be more and there could be a pattern.

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Speaker 3: But there have been a bunch of house fires in

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Speaker 3: the city of late that have been related to cannabis

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Speaker 3: growing operations. There was one last night. It was Mount

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Speaker 3: Eden and when they went and the fire guys went

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Speaker 3: in to put the fire, it's like a significant fire

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Speaker 3: in Mount Eden. We went to put out the house fire. Wow, hello,

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Speaker 3: what's going on here? Weed growing operation? A couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks back, one in Maneroua same story, go to put

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01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 3: out the fire, what do they find? Massive weed operation?

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Speaker 3: Going on now. One of two things is possible. Either

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Speaker 3: the guys growing the weed are trying something new and

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Speaker 3: it's causing fires which then not expecting. Or they're just

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Speaker 3: a bunch of stoners and accidents happen when you're stoned,

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Speaker 3: right when you're like as stoned as they are. Yep,

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Speaker 3: just set fire to the house accidentally. It's possible. Either

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Speaker 3: of these is probably more likely. The second one isn't it,

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Speaker 3: But anyway, there you go. Two's almost a pattern.

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Speaker 29: News is next.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather du for Sellen with the Business Hour and

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Speaker 2: mass insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, protect your future,

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Speaker 3: Right as the UK we will have Indebrady as our

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Speaker 3: correspondent grew shortly in about ten minutes time, it's twenty

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Speaker 3: five away from seven right now. The Reserve Bank in

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Speaker 3: Australia says that it's May meeting would be a quote

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Speaker 3: opportune time to reconsider the official cash rate. HSBC's chief

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Speaker 3: of was Paul Bloxham's with that's Paul, Hello, good a,

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Speaker 3: So it's a cutter, Thanks very much, mad, appreciate a

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Speaker 3: cut on the cards.

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Speaker 15: Isn't it.

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Speaker 30: I think so, yes, I think that's right. You know,

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01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 30: quite a lot has changed. I mean, part of it is,

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Speaker 30: of course that Australia's inflation has been gradually coming down

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Speaker 30: and this has left the RBA with an opportunity to

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Speaker 30: consider to potentially consider cutting. But I think the major

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Speaker 30: force at work now is what's happening globally, and that's

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Speaker 30: going to be the force that overwhelms all of these

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Speaker 30: local stories. I guess the way I'm framing this is

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Speaker 30: this is what's been happening is global is downside risk

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Speaker 30: for global growth, and typically that is disinflationary for most

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Speaker 30: of the world, and I think it's going to be

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Speaker 30: disinflationary for Australia and New Zealand as well. You can

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Speaker 30: certainly make the case that in the short run there

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Speaker 30: might be supply disruption that plays a role and holds

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Speaker 30: up that disinflationary force. But I think the major one

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Speaker 30: is going to be that there's going to be a

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Speaker 30: lot of manufactured goods in Asia that can't thisss is

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Speaker 30: really be sold into the US market, and they'll show

1869
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 30: up in our markets instead. So I think there's going

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Speaker 30: to be a lot of trade diversion, and that's going

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01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 30: to be one of the factors that puts downward pressure

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Speaker 30: on inflation allows the RBA to move a bit faster.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the RBA is going to actually

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Speaker 3: look at what's happening globally right now and take that

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Speaker 3: into consideration or look through it.

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Speaker 30: I think the first in the first instance, by May

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01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 30: will know that domestic inflation in Australia is low enough

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01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 30: for them to be able to consider cutting anyway. But

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Speaker 30: I think when you're thinking about the pathway going forward there,

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Speaker 30: they'll be considering in their own set of forecasts that

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Speaker 30: the likely risk to their forecast for inflation is more

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Speaker 30: to the downside than to the upside given what we're

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Speaker 30: seeing globally. And so I think you're going to get

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Speaker 30: a cut in May on the back of the domestic story,

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Speaker 30: followed by and also some sense that they're they're you know,

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Speaker 30: they're happy that they're considering that they're likely to be

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Speaker 30: lowering rates further because of what's happening globally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how wise is it to start acting in anticipation

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Speaker 3: of what Donald Trump is going to do or how

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Speaker 3: long he may do it, because he's so unbelievably unpredictable.

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Speaker 30: Well, this is a lot of what came out of

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Speaker 30: the minutes today. I mean, you know, when the last

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 30: meeting that the RBA had was in early April, obviously,

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Speaker 30: and just before the second of April, when we had

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01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 30: all these big announcements from the US administration, and the

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01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 30: RBA wasn't prepared to do anything because of course they

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01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 30: didn't really know what it was going to look like.

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Speaker 30: And so I think that's exactly why the RBA. Part

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Speaker 30: of the reason the RBA was on hold in April

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01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 30: was because they don't want to jump at shadows. They

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01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 30: want to know what's going on. But the time we

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01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 30: get to the main meeting and then the ones that

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01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 30: are subsequent to that will have a bit more economic

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Speaker 30: data that actually shows the effecta all of these policy

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Speaker 30: changes on the global economy and then potentially the local

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Speaker 30: economy as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, my first opportunity to talk to you about

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Speaker 3: what's going on with Donald Trump and the tariffs is

1909
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: this blowing your mind with how stupid it is.

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Speaker 30: There's a lot of change really really fast, and it's

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Speaker 30: having pretty big implications for the overall global the overall

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Speaker 30: global story and I think we all have to sort

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Speaker 30: of reframe how we think about things. But I think,

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Speaker 30: you know, when I think about it in the context

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Speaker 30: is I say, for Australia and New Zealand. I think

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Speaker 30: that the main forces are that it's downside risk to

1917
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Speaker 30: global growth, but it's also likely downside risk for inflation,

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Speaker 30: and that means that the central banks should have scope

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Speaker 30: to be able to support the local economies by lowering

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Speaker 30: rates further.

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Speaker 3: It's all right, hey, Paul, good to talk to you

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Speaker 3: is always. Thank you so much. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: again soon. That's Paul Bloxham, HSBC's chief economists Heather I

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Speaker 3: would say that the problem with those cannabis setups is

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01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 3: that they take a lot of lights, so it's probably

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Speaker 3: bad wiring. That's what Mars reckons, not that mauzzes in

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Speaker 3: the know, but Phil also reckons probably they're buying the

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Speaker 3: grow lights from Timu And do you know what that's

1929
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Speaker 3: always I've always had a bit of a rule around

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Speaker 3: that stuff. I'll go to your cheapies like Kmart for

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01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 3: any number of things, you know, but if it has

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Speaker 3: the potential to set fire to your house, then I

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Speaker 3: don't buy it.

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Speaker 26: There.

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Speaker 3: I think this is wise. Don't you think this is whise?

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Speaker 3: By your kids sneakers from Kmart. Kmart probably be really

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Speaker 3: angry with me for talking them down like this, But

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Speaker 3: by your kids sneakers there by all means buy your

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Speaker 3: pot plants, there by your fake plants, by your cushions,

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Speaker 3: buy your throw for your couch whatever. Maybe give the

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Speaker 3: lights a skip, do you know what I mean? Just

1942
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 3: go high end for that stuff, just to keep everybody safe.

1943
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 3: If you possibly can listen on this Golden Visa. I

1944
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but I thought this was fantastic

1945
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 3: news to see that we've got these applications coming through

1946
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 3: the Golden visas. The visa category that what's the face?

1947
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 3: Eric Stanford had a crack at and she changed it

1948
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 3: up and she said, we haven't got enough people, Like,

1949
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, nobody wants to invest in New Zealand.

1950
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 3: So she said, I'm going to redo the criteria for this,

1951
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden we've got people suddenly interested. Well,

1952
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 3: here are some of the numbers for how many for

1953
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 3: what kind of money we're talking about. We've had forty

1954
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 3: four applications just in two weeks, which is not bad

1955
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 3: because if I remember correctly, it's about half of what

1956
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 3: we'd had over two and a half years. So we're

1957
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 3: doing okay here. The minimum investment under the active investor

1958
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 3: plus visa program is in the growth right. The minimum

1959
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 3: investment there is five million bucks over three years. We've

1960
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 3: had thirty six applications there. Then you can also go

1961
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 3: under the balanced category and you can chuck to ten

1962
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 3: million dollars in for five years, and we've had eight

1963
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 3: there now we have had if all of them could

1964
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 3: forty four applications, if all of them come through somebody's

1965
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 3: crunch the numbers, we could be looking at a call

1966
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty million bucks being brought into the country.

1967
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 3: I'll take that, thanks very much. You're welcome to bring

1968
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 3: your dollars here. So far, seven applications have been approved

1969
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: in principle. Given that the minimum of all of this

1970
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 3: stuff is five million, five times seven is what thirty

1971
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 3: five million bucks. That's thirty five million bucks we didn't

1972
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 3: have the other day. So we'll take it, thanks very much.

1973
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Speaker 3: Nineteen away from seven.

1974
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Speaker 2: Whether it's macro, microbe or just plain economics, it's all

1975
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: on the business hours with Heather Duplicy, Allen and who

1976
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 2: has insurance and investments, grow your wealth, to protect your future.

1977
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 1: These talks d ME.

1978
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Speaker 3: And Brady UK corresponding with us right now, Enda, Hello

1979
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Speaker 3: to you.

1980
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 26: Well, hello stranger, congratulations and welcome back.

1981
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, very much, very happy to be back,

1982
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 3: very happy to be talking to your good self in

1983
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 3: to tell me what's going on with the boomingham bin strike?

1984
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 3: Where are we at?

1985
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Speaker 26: So the papers have some interesting information here today as

1986
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 26: we're into week five now of Birmingham, the second city

1987
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 26: of England, not having its bins connected collected. Would you

1988
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 26: believe the union officials driving this industrial dispute none of

1989
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 26: them live in Birmingham, Kelcer Prieze. So they're the ones

1990
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 26: sitting around the negotiating table saying that this isn't good enough,

1991
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 26: that isn't good enough. One of them lives fifty miles

1992
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 26: outside of Birmingham. Another lives in Kingston upon Thames, Southwest Leafy, London,

1993
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 26: nowhere near Birmingham. And guess what their bins are being

1994
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 26: collected every week. So it's fascinating what's going on and

1995
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 26: the whole dispute. It turns out the changes to the

1996
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 26: working conditions and pay will affect seventeen bin men. Seventeen

1997
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 26: bin men are holding the city of Birmingham one point

1998
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 26: two million residents to ransom. It is shocking what's going on.

1999
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 26: And meanwhile German newspapers are running headlines rats as big

2000
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 26: as cats and that is what's happening in Birmingham right now.

2001
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 3: So they're bringing the military strategist rather than you know,

2002
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 3: you average soldier. But do you have any idea what

2003
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 3: a military I don't know what a military strategist is.

2004
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 26: Do you the fellos who sit behind desks looking at

2005
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 26: computer spreadsheets. I mean, what the people of Birmingham need

2006
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 26: right now is boots on the ground and bins off

2007
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 26: the street. You don't need to be a strategist to

2008
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 26: work out what needs to happen. And mark my words,

2009
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 26: howther I had colleagues there yesterday filming They were finding

2010
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 26: rats dead in the street. The next thing will be

2011
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 26: some sort of wild disease or some sort of public

2012
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 26: health outbreak. Five weeks of not having public refuse collected

2013
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 26: it is beyond disgraceful.

2014
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Speaker 3: It's a bit black plague, isn't it.

2015
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Speaker 26: It is it is, But I mean when you look

2016
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 26: at who the union leaders are, where they're living. I mean,

2017
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 26: where is the leadership? And it turns out starmers on holidays.

2018
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Speaker 26: By the way, the Prime minister's finally taking a break,

2019
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 26: so this ain't going to be fixed this week.

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Speaker 3: Hey, where are we at with the efforts to South

2021
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 3: British steel? Are they getting anywhere?

2022
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 26: So this is rumbling on. Today is a big day.

2023
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 26: But apparently a shipment of cochin coal has arrived at Immingham,

2024
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 26: which is the nearest port to Scunthorpe that would be

2025
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 26: transferred at speed to the blast furnaces because the suspicion

2026
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 26: was that the Chinese owners were going to run down

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Speaker 26: the blast furnace, so it went out. Apparently they're extremely

2028
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 26: difficult to restart and then all the contracts were making

2029
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 26: steel would have been transferred to mainland China.

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Speaker 9: That was the plan.

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Speaker 26: So ultimately the other day, would you believe it, the

2032
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 26: Chinese leaders on site barricaded themselves into a boardroom and

2033
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 26: they could only be got out when the local police

2034
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 26: were called.

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Speaker 1: That is where we are.

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Speaker 26: So there's a big debate now over Chinese owners of

2037
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 26: critical infrastructure in the UK. I think a lot of

2038
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 26: people are just wondering, you know who you do deals

2039
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 26: with it's not worth it.

2040
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Speaker 3: No, not at all. Now are we really in a

2041
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 3: position where Dublin is not going to have a vote

2042
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 3: on who should be the mayor?

2043
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Yes?

2044
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,879
Speaker 26: So what I'm hearing from all the authorities in Ireland

2045
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 26: there was going to be a National Plebis site on

2046
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 26: whether or not to have an elected mayor of Dublin

2047
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 26: like they have with Cidy Cahn in London and Andy

2048
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 26: Burnham in Manchester. Dublin's a big city, it drives the

2049
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 26: Irish economy. But there is the specter of a political

2050
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 26: career looming for one Connor McGregor. The authorities do not

2051
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 26: like him in Ireland. They don't want him running to

2052
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 26: be president in November, and I think he's going to

2053
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 26: struggle to get on the nomination ballot for president. However,

2054
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 26: he could run to be mayor of Dublin and to

2055
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 26: offset that and to make sure it never happens, they've

2056
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 26: now decided, do you know what, we'll live without the mayor?

2057
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?

2058
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 26: Inda, given that it could be Connor McGregor. I don't

2059
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 26: like the guy personally. I think he is not a

2060
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 26: good person. He is not a good ambassador for Ireland.

2061
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,839
Speaker 26: And I would question why he is going into politics.

2062
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 26: I mean, he popped up in the White House on

2063
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 26: Saint Patrick's Day. Trump seems to surround themselves with these

2064
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 26: Andrew Tates and Connor McGregor's. I don't think Connor McGregor

2065
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 26: going into politics is good news for anyone in Ireland,

2066
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 26: and certainly any migrant in Ireland who we're seeing pictures

2067
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 26: social media people being harassed the whole time. I mean,

2068
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 26: it's getting very very nasty and there will be Irish

2069
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 26: people listening to this in New Zealand. We've gone all

2070
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 26: over the world unhindered. No one has bothered us. I

2071
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 26: just find that our country in a very strange place

2072
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 26: right now. If McGregor runs for president, do you know what, Heather?

2073
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 26: If he runs for president, I'll go up against them

2074
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 26: and let's see who wins.

2075
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 3: I'd poud to say that in the thank you very much,

2076
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 3: I really appreciate we're going to hold you to it.

2077
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 3: Into Brady UK correspondent. Now, I'll tell you what might

2078
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 3: not like Connor McGregor. Ah, this kind of thing we

2079
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 3: were where. I just don't think this kind of thing

2080
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 3: is good for politics, do you know what I mean?

2081
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 3: Where you've got the sense that they and I put

2082
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 3: it in near quotes elite changing the rules to stop

2083
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 3: somebody that don't like getting in. That kind of thing

2084
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 3: makes people. That's why we've got a breakdown in trust

2085
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 3: with institutions. That's why we've got trust in the media falling,

2086
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 3: trust and politicians falling trust and institutions falling because they

2087
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,879
Speaker 3: see this kind of jerrymandering going on. It's not fantastic

2088
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,560
Speaker 3: that this is happening. Liten very quickly, very sad to

2089
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 3: read today in the Wellington Papers that a shop called

2090
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 3: The Axe in Newtown is closing. Now, if you're in

2091
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 3: Wellington and you've got good taste, you will know the Axe.

2092
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 3: The Axe is a great store. It's very very expensive.

2093
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 3: Like I go into when it was before it was closing,

2094
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 3: And when I used to live in Wellington, I'd go

2095
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 3: into the Ax and buy the tiniest thing in the shop,

2096
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Just buy something nice?

2097
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 3: But who everything's expensive, But I did. Actually, I've decided

2098
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 3: to treat myself after I had baby number one, buy

2099
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 3: myself a push prison, because I ain't nobody else going

2100
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 3: to buy me a push prison. So I went in

2101
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 3: and I bought myself a coffee table. Come stall, do

2102
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? It was just carved out

2103
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 3: of a bit of wood. It's a very very heavy

2104
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 3: item and thank God because you need to hit the

2105
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 3: items around children. It's their own break. And I love it,

2106
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 3: and to this day, I love it. It's weird how

2107
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 3: you can attach this, you can attach some emotion to

2108
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 3: a piece of furniture. I love that stool. Every single

2109
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 3: time I look at it, it makes me feel happy.

2110
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 3: And I just regret that I didn't buy two of

2111
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 3: them because they came in black and like a beigy

2112
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 3: log color. Anyway they might. The shop is closing because

2113
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 3: of the cycle way. I mean, can you come on, Wellington?

2114
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 3: The Newtown cycle way is an abomination. It is causing

2115
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 3: all kinds of trouble to the stores up and down Newtown.

2116
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean, like, this is such a Wellington story. Put

2117
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 3: in a cycle way, close the local stores. And it's

2118
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 3: not the only thing. It's not only a new Town

2119
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 3: this is happening. This is happening in Thornton as well.

2120
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 3: Bored O Bakery shutdown because of their cycle way anyway,

2121
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 3: blah blah blah whatever. So oh mate, who runs the

2122
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 3: Axe decided to go on Facebook and say, look, I'm

2123
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 3: closing down the acts because of the cycle way. Well

2124
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 3: does she some abuse from punters who were like, now,

2125
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 3: it's so lazy to blame the cycleway, including one of

2126
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 3: my favorite people, Patrick Morgan of Cycle Wellington, who appears

2127
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 3: to have been born devoid of empathy. Because Patrick goes

2128
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 3: on the Facebook or on the Internet or on the media.

2129
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what he did, but he opened his

2130
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 3: mouth and he said, any shop selling high price knickknacks

2131
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 3: amid job cuts is going to want to rethink it's

2132
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 3: business model. So he just calls her business a shop

2133
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 3: that sells nicknacks, completely forgetting that that's her business. There's

2134
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 3: a woman behind that business selling nick knacks, Patrick, who

2135
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 3: is having a hard time of a bit. Do you

2136
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 3: just go and you just be unkind from your little

2137
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 3: proletariat position? There a mate got on yet Anyway, she

2138
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 3: doesn't hate cycle ways. She votes left, she votes green

2139
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 3: and labor, but she has called out that particular cycle way.

2140
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 3: So it's nice to know that it's not just people

2141
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 3: who you know, drive cars and vote right who have

2142
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 3: a problem with cycle ways. It's also people who vote left.

2143
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 3: So there you go, and you know, rip to the

2144
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 3: Ax because it was a great store away from seven.

2145
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2147
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Speaker 3: Now I find myself googling that side table to see

2151
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 3: if I can buy it anywhere else. It wasn't cheap

2152
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 3: as well, and I can hardly afford it at the moment.

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Speaker 3: It's a cost of living crisis, isn't it. That's a

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Speaker 3: bad idea. Anyway, Listen before I go. I don't think

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Speaker 3: that I've given you enough PERV today. I have come back.

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Speaker 3: I have come back with so much pent up PERF

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Speaker 3: for you because we've already talked about old man as

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Speaker 3: bonds bonds. One today was reading the news media about

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Speaker 3: you know, Trump de deporting the migrants to Ol Salvador

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Speaker 3: and he's met with the president of our Salvador and

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Speaker 3: he wants to ramp it up. And he was deporting

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Speaker 3: the migrants beforehand, which by the way, was one of

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Speaker 3: the things that made my husband very angry, and I

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Speaker 3: was not sufficiently outraged about the migrants being deported to

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Speaker 3: El Salvador's. That sparked a debate at home. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: in mind on that subject, Trump has now decided he's

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Speaker 3: going to start deporting the homegrown criminals as well to

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Speaker 3: El Salvador and the and the president of Ol Salvador

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Speaker 3: needs to buy get himself five mega prisons to be

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Speaker 3: able to handle it, and blah blah blah, and do

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Speaker 3: you know all that I thought was have you seen

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Speaker 3: the president of El Salvador? I mean, have you He

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Speaker 3: is forty three years old and he looks like Drake.

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Speaker 3: Now it's not everybody's cup of tea, but I'm just

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Speaker 3: gonna say thank you.

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Speaker 29: Yes, it's well, second showback. This is like the fourth

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Speaker 29: time I've played the porn music. Yes, we've only had

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Speaker 29: two shows. Yes, I know I'm gonna have to come

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Speaker 29: to find different, you know, porn and so often that

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Speaker 29: I'm going to need like three or four on the back.

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Speaker 3: That's right. And I'm just because I'm just setting everybody up,

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Speaker 3: like I know that you guys have got everybody's got

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Speaker 3: used to people behaving themselves. But now I'm back and

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Speaker 3: we're going to play the porn music, and I just

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Speaker 3: want to say, we're not listen on this proactly. I

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Speaker 3: know Ryan very well. He was not behaving himself at all.

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Speaker 3: I heard a lot of his little giggles and jokes

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Speaker 3: when I tuned in, and they were all filth and

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Speaker 3: I approved of that. Just want to say, El Salvador's

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Speaker 3: president would not be a hot babe in normal life,

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Speaker 3: but when you go into politics, the bar drops a

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Speaker 3: like because most people in politics are not good looking.

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Speaker 3: So when you look like Drake, you're a hot babe.

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Speaker 29: And and when you're sitting right next to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 29: I say, definitely, definitely, he's a very good person to

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Speaker 29: be compared to.

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Speaker 3: Rivers.

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Speaker 29: Cuomo has confirmed that Weezer are going to be working

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Speaker 29: on a movie Here Island and the Sun by Weezer

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Speaker 29: to play us out tonight. They were a late ringing

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Speaker 29: for Coachella over the weekend and they thought that they

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Speaker 29: may as well announce that on stage. And apparently Green

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Speaker 29: Day are doing a movie right now as well, So

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Speaker 29: this is just a thing for nineties bands. Apparently, what

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Speaker 29: is green Day doing a movie about? It's going to

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Speaker 29: be about that. It's inspired by the group, and they

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Speaker 29: are the years of living in a tour event, so

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Speaker 29: they're eight mile I guess I'm.

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Speaker 3: Really honestly like I am doubling down on my hatred

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Speaker 3: of Green Day.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, and I'm gonna go ahead and say no American

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Speaker 29: Idiot was and is a brilliant ELB. It's just amazing

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Speaker 29: that a lot of the things they say about it,

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Speaker 29: which is true of the Bush presidency, is still true

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Speaker 29: of the current presidency.

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Speaker 27: It's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy we by now.

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