1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Barris Oper, senior political corresponds with us Barry Hello, good afternoon. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Heather Rymus has had something to say about these myth lollies. Well, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: it's incredible, isn't it, this story that it's gone around 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: the world. Not surprisingly, he's in Sydney today ahead of 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: his meeting with Albanezi and Canberra tomorrow. But you'll be 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: pleased to hear and you probably already know anyway, the 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: police recovered sixteen of the lollies Yester, and a further 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: thirteen were discovered overnight in Auckland. Apparently each packet contained 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: about thirty lollies. So let's hope there's only one left 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: out there. Let's hope there's only one packet. But the 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: problem is who knows. And it is really a significant 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: problem for this country considering the strength of these lollies, 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: and they're obviously aimed at kids, and you imagine if 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: it was your child that inadvertently put one of these 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: in their mouths. But not surprising, the stories, like I said, 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: has made news around the world. Chris likes and says 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: he is deeply concerned about the danger it presents to 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: this country. 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: I just want everyone in New Zealand say, this is 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: incredibly worrying concerning please please please check check check that 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: actually what you're feeding your children are safe and make 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: sure that you are aware of what these lollies are 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: and what they look like so that you can actually 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: remove them. I mean, it's incredibly worrying I think for 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: everybody watching that story, and we're worried about you know, 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: the police can do the vescatch fin it, how the 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: hell it actually happens. The bigger issue right now is 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: public safety and making sure everyone's well aware of it. 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: You're clearly how the hell it happened was a drug 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: dealer was drawing to import the stuff into the country. 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: And I heard your drug expert on before saying that 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: it probably came from a Mexican cartel, which is apparently 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: a big player in getting methamphetamine around this part of 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: the world. Yeah, apparently. So what is the infrastructure that 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: they've been looking at over in Sydney. Well, the New 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: South Wales have been quite ahead of the ball game 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to private public parser oartnerships and this 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: is what our ministers have based their fast track legislation 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: and the experts who will oversee this now traveling with 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: Chris Luckson. Was the Infrastructure or is the Infrastructure Minister 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: Chris Bishop, the Regional Development Minister of our old mate 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: Shane Jones, and the Transport Minister Sam and Brown. They 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: were all standing with Chris lux when he was talking 44 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: to the media today. Like I said, they've based their 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: plan on the Australian experience and in particular New South Wales. 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Basically they're wanting cross party support for the big projects 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: after an expert panel decides what are the most important 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: to proceed with. He is Chris Bishop from Sydney. 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: The purpose of the Infrastructure Priority List is to pull 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: out independently assessed, credible projects that the country needs over 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: the next five, ten, fifteen to twenty years. That idea 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: that we're developing in New Zealand has taken from Infrastructure 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: Australia and also infrastructure. 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: In South Wales. 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: We spend a bit of time talking about that with 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: them this morning and that also goes, I think to 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: the point around building a more bipartisan pipeline and projects. 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: If you have a independently verified list of projects that 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: infrastructure experts have said, this is what the country or 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: in this case the state needs. Then political parties can 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: then get behind those projects in government or in opposition. 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good luck for that. That's the problem I 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: think with infrastructure in this country that they announced very 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: big plans and I'm not just saying the National Party, 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: but certainly Labor did and we know that here in 66 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Auckland announced the big plans and of course another government 67 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: comes along and changes them. So this would be certainly 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: a political change if the Labor Party got on board 69 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: with what these are doing. But look, there will be 70 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: announcements as I understand it, made within the next couple 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: of weeks about this expert panel that'll decide who gets 72 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: a priority when it comes to infrastructure being built in 73 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: this country. Do you see how popular the charter schools 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: are proving? Oh incredible, it really. Seventy eight applications have 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: come in to open the new charter schools and essentially 76 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: the brainchild or the pet project of the Associate Education 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 2: Minister David Seymour. Funding this year's budget only allows though, 78 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: for fifteen new schools and thirty five state call schools 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: to be maybe converted converted, which leaves twenty eight not 80 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: being funded through next year and the sponsored these schools, 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: so there will be a lot of disappointed people out there, 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: but they will be starting next year, which is quite extraordinary. 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: And you know a lot of people ask me what 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: is a charter school. Well, essentially, it's a school that 85 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: decides its own curriculum, but they have to keep up. 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: They have to keep up with other schools in the system, 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: so they're judged frequently on they have their own curriculum, 88 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: the hours and days of operation, and the government structure 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: is quite separate from the state. But look, it is 90 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: an interesting concept. There's still a couple going that Labour 91 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: didn't get their hands on when they were in government. 92 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: Are they the ones run by Willie Jackson. I'm not sure. 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: He doesn't know yah, so. 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: That maybe because he Yeah, Labour hates them, but Willy 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: loves the turns out. Hey, thank you, Barry, appreciate it. 96 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: Very sober. 97 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Senior political correspondent, News Talks. 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: Ab for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: to News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or 100 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.