1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: News talks hereb it is seventeen minutes half to five. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Netflix is now creating a second screen show. This is 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: designed for people who want to scroll on their phones 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: while they're also watching TV. Don't lie, you do it too. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: The shows feature overly descriptive dialogue, repetitive plots. This is 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: in order to engage an increasingly distracted audience who want 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: to double screen. Kate Rodgers, the film reviewershus with us 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: this evening. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Hi, Kate, you knew to ring there immediately because you 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: knew how much this was going to whine the arts. Kate? 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Is this the end of the arts? 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: No, this is a devolution of the human race, And 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: before you know it, we're just going to be shopping 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: around like omebs, just sliming along the ground, bumping into 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: each other. We've got a brain cell to spare between us. 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Are they going to give out an oscar for the 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: best second screen movie? 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: You know? 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Where are we heading? 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: I don't know where we're heading. And honestly, I would 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: argue that ninety percent of the shows we're watching on 22 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: streaming are basically second screen shows. Anyway. I mean, I 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: you know me well enough that when they started telling 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: us that we could watch Christopher Nolan films on our phone. 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I knew that we were going downhill, and we were 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: going downhill fast. And I also know what a purest 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: I am and what a dinosaur I am. And I 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: will confess there have been one or two moments where 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: I have found myself looking at my phone when I'm 30 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: watching TV. But I would argue, I'm just watching something 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: rubbish that Max, my twelve year old, is watching. But 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm a rare. I won't let the CIDs have a 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: phone if we're going to sit down and watch the movies, 34 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: whatever it might be, because I do fit my kids 35 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: down to watch a movie. But I do know that 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: I'm just wasting my breath. I mean, how many phones 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: do you watch? And how many iPads are you watching 38 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: when you sit down to. 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Watch and listening to this, everybody listening to this knows 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: that they do a little bit of this too. So 41 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: what will people actually notice to tell us what the 42 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: difference will be in the product. 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: From what I'm gathering? And if anyone's going to do 44 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: this in partoneer this and by the sounds of it, 45 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: it's been happening in boardrooms, cross streaming head offices, all 46 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: over the world as basically dilming it down to a 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: level that it's repetitive that you're never going to lose 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: track of the plot. So you're fitting your scrolling through 49 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: Instagram and then suddenly you hear the word angela fever. 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. You lock up and go, oh gosh, 51 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: I forgot that. Nigel for him because Hona got gle 52 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: angela fever when he was twelve, and that's why he's 53 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: struggling to make his relationship work with Daphne from Cans. 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: And then they'll repeat it again ten minutes later and 55 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: you go, oh, angela feather. I guess they're making it 56 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: so that they're constantly repeating certain bits of a plot 57 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: and order for you to cap up. And you know what, 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: there's so many people and I know them myself, especially 59 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: in these days and age where we are stressed and anxious, 60 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: that go back to shows that we've watched over and 61 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: over again, whether it's The Gilmore Girls, whether it's Suits, 62 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 2: whatever it might be. We know everything that's going to happen. 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: There's a comfort in that. It also means we don't 64 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: really have to engage the brain or the signapses. We 65 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: can just let it wash over us know what's happening. 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: So they're essentially trying to tap their algorithm into that 67 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: motion that we don't have to think and then we 68 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: can just sit And why though, why would we bother? 69 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: Why don't you just sit on Instagram on them? Why 70 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: don't you watch something? 71 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Well exactly, Kate, thank you for that. Kate Roger, who's 72 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: a film reviewer and critic and quite critical of this idea, 73 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: I have to say, you're not doing nothing in defense 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: of the you are still engaging your brain. In fact, 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: you could say you're more engaged because you're multitasking on 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: multiple platforms all at once. 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Will we become thicker? Have we become thicker? I think 79 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: the answer is probably yes. It's just got twenty one 80 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: minutes after five. You're on News Talks ZB. I'll tell 81 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: you why noise canceling headphones are a bad idea shortly. 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