1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Demand for ambulance's highest on record last year. This is 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: according to stats from Saint John seven hundred thousand callouts, 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: thirty percent increase over five years, and the ambulance crews 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: attending five hundred and fifty thousand of them an average 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: of fifteen hundred a day. Mark quinn Is with the 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Ambulance Association, joins us Now, Hey, Mark, good morning, Ryan, 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Good to have you on why is this? Is this 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: in line with population growth or is it over and 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: above that? 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: No, it's over about. 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: There's a number of factors and there's no single one factor. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: But as a population growth, we've got a a tsunami 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: of over sixty five population coming. 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: You've got services in certain areas like rural and even 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: provincial where people straying to get into their GP or 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: actually have a health service at all in those areas. 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: And there's in the financial cost because obviously trying to 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: get in that cost money. Even if I've got a card, 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: a community service card, that still costs. 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: What percent of those callouts are actually needed? 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: Well, that's a good question. So the majority of and 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 4: we would say probably cut my information that I've eighty 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 4: percent of them were at the lower or lower acuity 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 4: patients and those are patients that could probably be be 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: se seen by a GP or GP type service. And 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: so sometimes the embulance service, for end is the only 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: health service in a particular area. So that's why sometimes 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: we will the services used almost like a pseudo GP 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: because that's the only way they can access health. 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: That's not great, So what do we do about it? 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: But well, i mean, apart from trying to fund them 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: more on GPS. In the meantime, for you guys, the workload, 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I imagine is a little unbearable. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's constant, and it's i mean, it's what we're 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: there to do. But it has grown from you know, 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: I've been twenty five years in the inblance services where 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: we were only really responded to emergency calls, and now 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: I've seen a complete change where it's dominated by the 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: lower curity GP type patients. And that's even though there's 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: a number of initiatives and Saint John have teletrios, remote triarchs, 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: we have paramedics and emblance obviouss, more skills and medications. 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: We've got other initiatives, community based initiatives in there, but 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: they're not keeping pace with the demand and there's still 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: is at times no national strategy between Emblance service primary 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: and secondary care health services, and this probably needs to 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: be more work done in that area. It does require 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: staff at times, it requires experienced practitioners, but yeah, it's 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: going to be continue to be a challenge going forward. 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: Mark, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you, Mark when 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: the Ambulance Association National secretaries. 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: Listen live to news talks it be from five am weekdays, 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.