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Speaker 1: It's the triaffect of the GOP. They would in the

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Speaker 1: White House take control of the center, most likely hold

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Speaker 1: the House. I think we can almost confirm that President

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Speaker 1: Eliz says it will be a golden age for America.

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Speaker 1: The Republican Party's form of communications director Doug hayesback with

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: What's your seen? Some of what is number will eventually

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Speaker 1: be I've got them in the low threes three o

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Speaker 1: eight sort of twenty sixteen. Ibergain, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm honest, I've stopped looking once it

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Speaker 2: got to two seventy. What I've seen has been a

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Speaker 2: dramatic shift, though not just in the states that we

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Speaker 2: all focused on, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, you know, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: It's also been a shift in a lot of the

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Speaker 2: blue states, you know, states that were on nobody's radar screen,

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Speaker 2: which tells you a whole lot about how the country

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Speaker 2: has changed and is changing. So New Jersey nobody was

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Speaker 2: talking about. Donald Trump lost it by four points as

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Speaker 2: opposed to sixteen points last time, Connecticut eight points this

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Speaker 2: time as opposed to twenty last time, Maryland twenty two

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Speaker 2: as opposed to thirty three. We're seeing a huge shift

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Speaker 2: in to the right throughout the country. And you know,

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Speaker 2: New York State is a good example. Trump lost the

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Speaker 2: state by twelve points, he lost it by twenty three

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Speaker 2: last time, and Kamala Harris is on track for the

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Speaker 2: worst performance in New York City since nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just about electoral votes. It's a shift

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Speaker 2: within the country.

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Speaker 1: New York got me as well. They hate him, they

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Speaker 1: indict them, but whoop, snow he don't will vote for him?

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Speaker 1: How does that work?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, he still lost the state, but clearly, especially

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Speaker 2: if you look at New York City, those outer bureaus

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Speaker 2: that tend to be more heavily Hispanic where Trump has

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Speaker 2: absolutely overperformed, they voted for him, I have no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And Jewish voters certainly voted for Trump at a higher level.

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Speaker 2: He clearly lost Manhattan. I don't think there's any doubt

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Speaker 2: about that. But it tells us that there's real shifts

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Speaker 2: happening within the country throughout the country. And it's not

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Speaker 2: just here outside of Pennsylvania, or outside of Philadelphia or

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Speaker 2: or suburban Charlotte. It's almost everywhere in the country.

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Speaker 1: His campaign this time was much more disciplined and professional.

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Speaker 1: I thought, is his presidency the same.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have to see who he hires. He started

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Speaker 2: with a very professional team in his early days at

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Speaker 2: the White House, with Ryan's previous and Sean Spice are

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Speaker 2: being two of the most prominent examples, and they didn't

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Speaker 2: last very long. And you know, you're going to have

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Speaker 2: a surge of people trying to go into this administration,

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Speaker 2: but they also need to go in with their eyes

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Speaker 2: wide open of what happened to the previous team. If

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Speaker 2: you were a press secretary or a chief of staff

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Speaker 2: or other prominent roles, your life expectancy was similar to

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Speaker 2: a spinal tap drummer. You might spontaneously combust at some point,

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Speaker 2: and certainly people going in are going to be mindful

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Speaker 2: of that this time.

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Speaker 1: How do the do the Democrats? Let me put it

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Speaker 1: this way, do the Democrats have the wherewithal to understand

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Speaker 1: how badly they've misriad this and to fix it and

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Speaker 1: be competitive in twenty eight Not well.

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Speaker 2: The wherewithal to understand it absolutely, the willingness to do

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Speaker 2: something about it may be a very different question, and

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Speaker 2: part of that is one of the reasons that Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris lost wasn't because of anything she said in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. It's because she lost in twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen when she took very far left positions to try

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Speaker 2: and flank to the left to win the primary, which

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Speaker 2: she obviously didn't do. Those came back to bid her.

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Speaker 2: And when we see what looks at as happened with

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Speaker 2: Hispanic voters, certainly rule voters. They're moving more to the right,

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Speaker 2: which means they're rejecting the more far left policies that

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Speaker 2: are coming from the Democrats, and they're willing to say, listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't like Donald Trump, per se. I don't like

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Speaker 2: some of the crazy things he says. He goes off

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Speaker 2: the rails sometimes. But what Democrats are doing in policy

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Speaker 2: I'm fundamentally opposed to. And that's part of the decision

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Speaker 2: they made.

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Speaker 1: Where do you reckon? The Trump victory sits in the

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Speaker 1: annals of history A term, a loss, a term. How

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Speaker 1: does that work?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's happened once before with Grover Cleveland. I look

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Speaker 2: at this election in terms of nineteen eighty. When Ronald

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Speaker 2: Reagan won one in nineteen eighty, it was a generational

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Speaker 2: shift and really propelled our politics for a long time.

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Speaker 2: The movement that we saw on the ground tells us

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Speaker 2: with rule voters, especially with Hispanic voters, Trump is probably

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Speaker 2: going to do better with Hispanic voters than any Republican ever.

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Speaker 2: And given everything that we've heard about immigration over the

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Speaker 2: past year, the people who think they know everything would

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Speaker 2: tell you that's impossible. But the reality is Hispanic voters

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Speaker 2: also care about a secure border, right, just like they

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Speaker 2: care about jobs in the economy and so forth. They

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Speaker 2: don't want to be called Latin X. They just want

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Speaker 2: a job that provides for their family, a secure border

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Speaker 2: and low crime and all of those things. Trump was

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Speaker 2: able to speak to those voters, and that's something that

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Speaker 2: Democrats are going to have to reckon with for a

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Speaker 2: on the ground, and that's what Democrats need to not

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Speaker 2: only reckon with and realize, but work to fix.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's good to have you on the program. Doug

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Speaker 1: Doug Hay, form of Communications directed for the Republican Party.

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