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Speaker 2: Hello you great using listen. Welcome to Matt and Tylor

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Speaker 2: Full Shot podcast number two nine one for the nineteenth

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Speaker 2: of February and The Earl Lord twenty twenty six. Interesting show,

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Speaker 2: got to all our topics that we teased.

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Speaker 3: Four year parliamentary term went off again. Good discussion with

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Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith Goldie on why you decided to shelve that

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Speaker 3: piece of legislation.

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Speaker 2: We had a great talk call from a teacher right

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Speaker 2: at the end that we had to cut off due

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Speaker 2: to him to go to the news. So look forward

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Speaker 2: to you being disappointed by that being truncated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely great show though, so download, subscribe and kive

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Speaker 3: us if you please.

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Speaker 2: All right, you're seeing busy, We'll let you go. Give

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Speaker 2: a taste. Keep you from us, all right, boy, love you.

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Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 4: everything in between them. Kids, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

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Speaker 4: Afternoon Squid Shoder Talk.

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Speaker 3: We'll get at of you. Welcome and to the show Thursday.

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Speaker 3: So good, so good to have your company has always

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Speaker 3: hope you're doing very well.

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Speaker 2: Get a man, get a Tyler gad av and I

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Speaker 2: want to give a shout out to the great New

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Speaker 2: Zealanders that are doing squats, body weight squats, squats with

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Speaker 2: weights yep, anytimes. The squats. Squats are the most important

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Speaker 2: part of any exercise regime, any kind of resistance training.

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Speaker 2: But they also make you work like you've soiled walk

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Speaker 2: like you've soiled yourself.

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Speaker 3: I noticed that about you.

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Speaker 2: I've started doing squats every second day, and boy, squats

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Speaker 2: make you realize how weak you've become.

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Speaker 3: It's a humbling experience because you should.

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Speaker 2: Be able to just squat and you know, thirty times

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Speaker 2: just squatting and then unsquatting shouldn't do the damage it

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Speaker 2: does to your butt. That it has happened to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to say, you know, when I was senior,

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Speaker 3: walk out to the toilet there made it was it's

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Speaker 3: an unsightly gait. But I feel your pain that when

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Speaker 3: you get that low, because how many squats are you

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Speaker 3: doing per day? So you're doing your running and then

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Speaker 3: you're doing your multiple body.

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Speaker 2: Squats none per day every second day, right, So I

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Speaker 2: run ten k one day, in the next k next day,

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Speaker 2: I do, you know, curl the press and press ups

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Speaker 2: say I do that, I'm on my second day of that,

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Speaker 2: so I've done it once.

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Speaker 3: God speed with the squats, mate, But shout out to

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Speaker 3: all the squatters out there right on too, you're the.

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Speaker 2: Best of us. You're squatters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're great. New Zealanders. Absolutely. On to today's show.

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Speaker 3: After three o'clock, we want to have a chat about

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Speaker 3: technology in the bedroom. Phones. Well, it depends on what

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Speaker 3: type of tick we're talking about here, but this is

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Speaker 3: after a very renowned psychologist and author, Jonathan Hint, was

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Speaker 3: talking about phones in the bedroom when it came to kids,

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Speaker 3: and we've got a little bit of that audio here.

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Speaker 5: It is no screens of any kind in the bedroom ever.

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Speaker 5: This is the rule I wish to God I had

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Speaker 5: done when my kids were little. No screens of any

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 3: You start with that.

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Speaker 5: You can have a TV in the living room, they

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Speaker 5: can watch TVs. Sometimes, you can have a computer in

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Speaker 5: They can google things. But if you start with that policy,

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Speaker 5: then screens are just things that they sometimes use, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So are you willing to ban screens from the

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Speaker 2: the fact that when I say this to people banning

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I can see the TV in the

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Speaker 3: But there's going to be a great chat after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock, a post on social media about honesty

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Speaker 3: boxes and I'll read you a bit of it here. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that is a no more honesty box stall. I am

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Speaker 3: over the theft. If if is, we will know what

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Speaker 3: that means. It's hours of work and money to grow water,

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Speaker 3: So what myself, family and friends don't eat can go

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Speaker 3: a very angry person who's had enough of the honesty

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Speaker 2: So are we not honest enough nowadays to have honesty boxes?

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Speaker 2: Is that where we're ended up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there is challenges with honesty boxes now

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're not just stealing the fruit, some

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Speaker 2: people are stealing the cash. Yeah, but you know you

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Speaker 2: can run a QR code. You can, but that still

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Speaker 2: involves not stealing the fruit. Yeah, absolute low lives. But

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Speaker 2: that's the question. We are too dishonest for honesty? Boxes

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand anymore. That's after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about the four

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Speaker 3: year parliamentary term referendum. It's no more. It's been shelved

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Speaker 3: for the time being. This is Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith.

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Speaker 3: He announced that despite getting to what they committed with

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Speaker 3: with that referendum because they've effectively run out of time.

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Speaker 3: They've got other priorities, but there's just not enough time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So they didn't have enough time to put ford

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Speaker 3: More times any in that.

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Speaker 2: How bad is this? Because I think most people surely

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Speaker 2: but you know, push back if you disagree, But there

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Speaker 2: surely see that a four year term is so much

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Speaker 3: So the first year you get your feet under the

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Speaker 3: out what the hell's going on, the second year, you

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Speaker 3: start looking at the policy you want to implement. In

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Speaker 3: the third year, you're electioneering because it's an election year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so short termism. Is that a word? Short termism?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 3: I think that sums it up well.

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Speaker 2: And we're a real outlier on this with our crazy

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Speaker 2: we don't have a Senate and people can maybe governments

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Speaker 2: can go completely loose over four years. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you want you if someone gets democratically elected, don't

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Speaker 2: then start doing what they think they need to do

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Speaker 2: to get re elected again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. Love to hear from you? Was this a mistake?

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Speaker 3: Was now the time to try and push this through

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Speaker 3: for a four year parliamentary term? And do you see

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Speaker 3: the irony and not having enough time for their coalition

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Speaker 2: Love to hear from you, you're very intellectual person, tirely.

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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred, eight hundred eighty ten eighty do you

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Speaker 2: see the irony? What a question you think? Do you

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Speaker 2: think this will happen now? That's my thing. I don't

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Speaker 2: because it's much more likely that you'll get re elected

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Speaker 2: for two two. It's very rare to only get a

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Speaker 2: one term government in New Zealand, yep, harder to get

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Speaker 2: a third term. It is, so you will be asking

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Speaker 2: this government to put the referendum up when it's much

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Speaker 2: more likely that they were going to be in opposition

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Speaker 2: for four years instead of three and four probably means

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Speaker 2: eight yes, yeah, yes, in opposition. So you're you're a

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Speaker 2: So this may never happen now.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

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Speaker 3: number to call love to get your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 3: Was this a mistake? Nine to nine two? Is that text?

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen past one?

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Speaker 2: Ah, this is this is hurtful. My fourteen year old

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Speaker 3: Is it true though, probably.

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Speaker 2: Your forty year old dad probably doesn't weigh as much

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Speaker 3: Be seventeen past one. So the government and the coalition

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Speaker 3: they've run out of time to get a referendum for

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Speaker 3: a four year parliamentary term over the line, was this

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Speaker 3: a mistake? O eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: it's number to call?

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Speaker 2: How much work needs to be done? Wouldn't you just

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Speaker 2: have to come up with the sentence should New Zealand

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Speaker 2: extend the electoral term to four years? Electoral term four years?

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Speaker 2: What would previous previous referendum questions like?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 2: I think I think in twenty eleven we did. We

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Speaker 2: looked at MMP and whether we wanted to keep it,

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Speaker 2: that's right, and I think the question was just should

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Speaker 2: New Zealand keep the mixed member proportional voting system? So

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Speaker 2: it's not like you have to spend a lot of

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Speaker 3: That doesn't take months. No, yeah, I mean we'll ask

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Speaker 3: a Minister Paul Goldsmith about that. We're going to have

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Speaker 3: a chat to him in about fifteen minutes, So that's

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Speaker 3: a fair question. What do you actually need to do

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Speaker 3: behind seeing I think.

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Speaker 2: The cannabis one was I think that was written by

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Speaker 3: Oh, that was a confusing question, and I think was

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Speaker 10: Daryl, Well, I mean your suggestion there is that they

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Speaker 10: It's not like it's going to kill us. We've been

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Speaker 2: What if we weren't, because I think we're a real

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Speaker 10: It probably leaned me more towards it, for sure. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for you called Darryl.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I just I still think though, when it comes

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Speaker 2: to be to be real elected? Now I'm concerned that

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Speaker 2: I've made up the term unicommerial.

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Speaker 3: Uniquemmerial. It's a great word. Yeah, will finance.

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Speaker 2: So this was the referendum structure in twenty twenty for

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Speaker 2: You know how long does it take to sort out

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Speaker 2: This was, This is what it was in twenty twenty. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I support the proposed Cannabis Legislation and Control Control Bill. No,

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Speaker 2: I do not support the prop those Cannabis Legislation and

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Speaker 3: You can do that in an afternoon. In fact you

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Speaker 2: You had to know what the details of the Cannabis

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Speaker 3: Yeah, typically overthought. But what do you say on the

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Speaker 3: four year parliamentary term? Was it a mistake to shove

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Speaker 4: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 12: Reserve Bank New Gavin a cash right unchanged two to five.

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Speaker 12: They see a recovery, it's on, it's building its patchy.

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Speaker 12: Arna Breman is with us. What's your sense of the

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great economy.

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Speaker 13: I think New Zealanders are undressed a meeting.

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Speaker 8: Actually the potential going forward.

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Speaker 12: When you say you were just yes you do, but

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Speaker 12: you were just too late. Now you're knew, but the

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Speaker 12: people on your committee are not. They're the ones who

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Speaker 11: Are you very confident?

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Speaker 5: We are going to ensure that we get impression back

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Speaker 12: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: Talk z B very Good Afternoon Tune twenty eight past one.

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Speaker 2: I was right, it as uni coomerial. Yeah, like a

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Speaker 2: from Scott my view, first two and four years as

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I can see some merit in that.

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Speaker 2: See I can imagine parties quite liking that, because the

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Speaker 2: we're fixing up the old the old government's cock ups, yep,

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Speaker 2: get you get the first term to say that, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good idea, Scott, Thank you very much for that text.

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Speaker 3: A couple more texts coming through.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, boys. I for one, support a four year

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Speaker 2: governments exactly. Yeah, I mean that's democracy, and whether you

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Speaker 2: really the point we vote. And well MMP does make

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Speaker 2: So they should be allowed to play out and do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to be the argal nature of your

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Speaker 3: we are going to speak with Minister Paul Goldsmith. He

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylane. So, as we've been discussing,

448
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Speaker 3: the government has scrap plans to put a four year

449
00:22:01,373 --> 00:22:05,573
Speaker 3: parliamentary term too a referendum at for fill coalition commitments,

450
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Speaker 3: but effectively it ran out of time to progress it

451
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Speaker 3: before the US election. Joining us now is Justice Minister

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Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith. Minister, very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 2: A good afternoon, good talk. Does the fact that you

454
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Speaker 2: didn't have time to get the referendum sorted on a

455
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Speaker 2: four year term prove the point that we need one. No,

456
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Speaker 2: you make it sound like it was some kind of

457
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Speaker 2: accident or an oversight we ran out of time by mistake.

458
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Speaker 2: That certainly wasn't the case. We made a conscious decision

459
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Speaker 2: that there's a lot of things that were working our

460
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Speaker 2: way through. Obviously we're focused on fixing the basics and

461
00:22:40,613 --> 00:22:44,573
Speaker 2: law and order got an enormous amount of legislation going

462
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Speaker 2: through the House in that space, and so we wanted

463
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Speaker 2: to focus on that rather than the four year term.

464
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Speaker 2: We can still come back to it in another term,

465
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Speaker 2: but it's not going to be a priority for us.

466
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Speaker 2: Why is it so hard to get a referendum going?

467
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Speaker 2: Don't you just have to write the question like, should

468
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Speaker 2: New Zealand extend the electoral term to four years? Is

469
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Speaker 2: he any more work than that? Behind the scenes, Well,

470
00:23:07,293 --> 00:23:09,773
Speaker 2: it's a question I suppose of what we want to

471
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Speaker 2: be talking about and focusing on this year as we

472
00:23:13,173 --> 00:23:16,773
Speaker 2: come into an election. And yep, we can have politicians

473
00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:20,773
Speaker 2: talking about themselves and their arrangements and that thing, or

474
00:23:20,813 --> 00:23:22,813
Speaker 2: we can be talking about, you know, what we're doing

475
00:23:22,853 --> 00:23:25,733
Speaker 2: to reduce the number of victims of crime, and yeah,

476
00:23:25,733 --> 00:23:28,653
Speaker 2: you can talk about both. But obviously government always governments

477
00:23:28,653 --> 00:23:31,373
Speaker 2: always need to kind of prioritize you can't do everything

478
00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:35,133
Speaker 2: all at once and our priorities getting the economy going,

479
00:23:35,733 --> 00:23:38,493
Speaker 2: restoring law and order and health and education, and so

480
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Speaker 2: you know, you just can't do everything, and so that's

481
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Speaker 2: why we're prioritized on this one. Well we're going to

482
00:23:43,773 --> 00:23:50,413
Speaker 2: spend some time right now, that's our So how much

483
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Speaker 2: of an outlier is New Zealand with it's with its

484
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Speaker 2: three year term? Yeah, well, look, I mean there's a

485
00:23:56,213 --> 00:23:59,253
Speaker 2: variety of you know, around different countries. So yep, we

486
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Speaker 2: have an election every three years. The Australian federal system

487
00:24:03,373 --> 00:24:05,933
Speaker 2: is the same, They have it every three years. But

488
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Speaker 2: you know, if you go to the United States, you know, residents,

489
00:24:09,773 --> 00:24:12,133
Speaker 2: it's four years, but you know their Congress is actually

490
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Speaker 2: every two years. Go to the UK it's five years.

491
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how they operate in the UK.

492
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Speaker 2: If you're lost in an election in the in the UK,

493
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you'd get out of bed in

494
00:24:22,173 --> 00:24:24,093
Speaker 2: the morning because you know, you've got five years before

495
00:24:24,133 --> 00:24:26,653
Speaker 2: there's another election. So that seems to me to be

496
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Speaker 2: very strange. And so the basic sort of arguments that

497
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Speaker 2: people put forward are okay, if you go to four years,

498
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Speaker 2: it just means, you know, a government has longer to

499
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Speaker 2: carry out its program before it has to come back

500
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Speaker 2: to an election year where everything gets tossed up in

501
00:24:45,053 --> 00:24:46,813
Speaker 2: the year, and so you know, might be able to

502
00:24:46,973 --> 00:24:48,853
Speaker 2: you know, if you've got one year getting organized at

503
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Speaker 2: the start and then one year campaigning and you've only

504
00:24:51,813 --> 00:24:53,893
Speaker 2: got one year in the middle, you know, to really

505
00:24:53,933 --> 00:24:56,173
Speaker 2: get things done. If you go to four years, you

506
00:24:56,253 --> 00:24:58,493
Speaker 2: might have more time to do that. So that's the

507
00:24:58,613 --> 00:25:02,933
Speaker 2: argument for it. That the argument against it is to say, well, actually,

508
00:25:03,053 --> 00:25:05,013
Speaker 2: you know in New Zealand, we don't have a Senate,

509
00:25:05,053 --> 00:25:06,893
Speaker 2: we don't have a House of Lords, we don't have

510
00:25:06,933 --> 00:25:10,053
Speaker 2: an Upper House, and we don't have a Supreme Court

511
00:25:10,093 --> 00:25:13,453
Speaker 2: that strikes down legislation. So there's actually very few kind

512
00:25:13,453 --> 00:25:16,053
Speaker 2: of checks and balances on the Parliament. Why did we

513
00:25:16,053 --> 00:25:18,133
Speaker 2: get the main check and balances that you can toss

514
00:25:18,173 --> 00:25:19,813
Speaker 2: them out? And so you should do that more eagerly.

515
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Speaker 2: So that's the argument, Well, why do we get rid

516
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Speaker 2: of the upper House? In the fifties, what was it

517
00:25:24,013 --> 00:25:27,893
Speaker 2: called the Legislative Council or the Legislative Council. Yeah, yeah,

518
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Speaker 2: Well I think people sort of wondered what was the

519
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Speaker 2: point of it all? You know, you had this group

520
00:25:32,613 --> 00:25:37,413
Speaker 2: and they'd slow things down so we went sort of

521
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Speaker 2: what's called uni cameral, which is to just have the

522
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Speaker 2: house and no upper house. If you're funny enough, if

523
00:25:43,733 --> 00:25:45,493
Speaker 2: you go and look at some of the Australian states,

524
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Speaker 2: I mean each of the states have a Parliament and

525
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Speaker 2: an upper and a lower house, but Queensland has gone

526
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Speaker 2: to just one chamber like us. I think it's it's

527
00:25:56,013 --> 00:25:59,532
Speaker 2: nice and efficient. We can actually get things done, but

528
00:25:59,733 --> 00:26:03,893
Speaker 2: you know that there's fewer checks and balances get things done,

529
00:26:03,933 --> 00:26:06,933
Speaker 2: but sometimes stupid things get done. Can you ask, well,

530
00:26:06,973 --> 00:26:10,533
Speaker 2: that's right, can you ask them this Texter why they

531
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Speaker 2: didn't save some cash and just add the question to

532
00:26:12,813 --> 00:26:15,653
Speaker 2: the ballot paper for the for the election, because I

533
00:26:15,693 --> 00:26:20,293
Speaker 2: think apart from Tipati Maori, I think broadly most of

534
00:26:20,333 --> 00:26:24,333
Speaker 2: the other parties are for the idea for a year term.

535
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Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, there's no there's a variety of opinions

536
00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:32,933
Speaker 2: on that, you know. Some Yeah, I wouldn't say it

537
00:26:32,973 --> 00:26:36,773
Speaker 2: was a slam dunk amongst parliamentarians. But you can do

538
00:26:36,813 --> 00:26:39,213
Speaker 2: a referendum at the election. I think it was going

539
00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:41,213
Speaker 2: to cost twenty odd million bucks. You can't. You can't

540
00:26:41,253 --> 00:26:44,173
Speaker 2: just stick it on the the same ballot papers. You

541
00:26:44,173 --> 00:26:46,093
Speaker 2: have to have separate ones, and then you know you

542
00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:49,893
Speaker 2: have to have an education campaign to explain to people

543
00:26:49,893 --> 00:26:52,213
Speaker 2: what it's all about and what the differences are and Benser.

544
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Speaker 2: So it's not it's not a you know, it's not

545
00:26:54,773 --> 00:26:59,213
Speaker 2: it's not nothing. Uh and but but it's but you know,

546
00:26:59,253 --> 00:27:01,693
Speaker 2: it's also you know, you've got you've got to end

547
00:27:01,773 --> 00:27:05,253
Speaker 2: up talking about it, discussing it, and and and you know,

548
00:27:05,493 --> 00:27:08,013
Speaker 2: we make a decisions as a what you know, what

549
00:27:08,053 --> 00:27:10,813
Speaker 2: do we really want to be focusing on And like

550
00:27:10,853 --> 00:27:13,532
Speaker 2: I say, we want to focus on a bunch of

551
00:27:13,573 --> 00:27:17,853
Speaker 2: other things around this. But yeah, there's got arguments both ways,

552
00:27:17,853 --> 00:27:21,453
Speaker 2: and the legislation is still in the House halfway through,

553
00:27:21,493 --> 00:27:25,413
Speaker 2: and you know, if we're blessed with another term, we

554
00:27:25,413 --> 00:27:28,573
Speaker 2: can come back and consider it down the line. So

555
00:27:28,733 --> 00:27:31,293
Speaker 2: you it has to be a referendum. You can't just

556
00:27:32,133 --> 00:27:34,693
Speaker 2: push it through and vote on it within your term.

557
00:27:35,453 --> 00:27:37,933
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean people have suggested we should just

558
00:27:37,973 --> 00:27:41,333
Speaker 2: extend this term to five years, but people tend to

559
00:27:41,333 --> 00:27:47,292
Speaker 2: frown it that kind of thing, right, Yeah, yeah, So

560
00:27:47,373 --> 00:27:49,093
Speaker 2: I mean if that's what you're suggesting, I can take

561
00:27:49,133 --> 00:27:54,293
Speaker 2: it back to my colleagues and we can think about it.

562
00:27:54,333 --> 00:27:58,973
Speaker 2: So you mentioned the you know, it's harder to get

563
00:27:58,973 --> 00:28:01,933
Speaker 2: elected for a third term than a second term obviously historically.

564
00:28:01,973 --> 00:28:04,493
Speaker 2: So do you guys believe in this enough to get

565
00:28:04,493 --> 00:28:07,173
Speaker 2: it going next time when it's more likely that you'd

566
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:12,453
Speaker 2: end up and four years or even eight years in opposition? Well,

567
00:28:12,853 --> 00:28:15,773
Speaker 2: I mean the the I mean, that's one of the

568
00:28:15,853 --> 00:28:18,253
Speaker 2: arguments against it. There's been put to me by people,

569
00:28:18,293 --> 00:28:21,173
Speaker 2: which is to say that, you know, in New Zealand,

570
00:28:23,293 --> 00:28:28,253
Speaker 2: most governments get elected for a second term unless you're

571
00:28:28,293 --> 00:28:31,173
Speaker 2: particularly bad, in which case you probably want to be

572
00:28:31,213 --> 00:28:34,532
Speaker 2: thrown out. But if you're if you're good, will be

573
00:28:34,693 --> 00:28:37,533
Speaker 2: re elected. So why would you want to sort of

574
00:28:37,613 --> 00:28:42,333
Speaker 2: change that? But in terms of the cycles, it has

575
00:28:42,453 --> 00:28:45,213
Speaker 2: been the case that three terms has been kind of

576
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Speaker 2: as far as people have got for a long time.

577
00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:49,613
Speaker 2: But I'm very confident this current government's going to change

578
00:28:49,613 --> 00:28:51,933
Speaker 2: that we're going to be here for five terms at least.

579
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Speaker 3: That's some confidence. Very good.

580
00:28:54,213 --> 00:28:55,133
Speaker 2: Isn't that obvious to you?

581
00:28:56,173 --> 00:28:58,093
Speaker 3: Well, that you're getting some good support on the text matters.

582
00:28:58,333 --> 00:28:59,733
Speaker 3: Now here's an interesting idea.

583
00:29:00,373 --> 00:29:04,933
Speaker 2: So four years, if this text machine currently was the election,

584
00:29:05,013 --> 00:29:05,893
Speaker 2: you'd be doing very well.

585
00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:08,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So here's a suggestion can you please ask

586
00:29:08,813 --> 00:29:11,013
Speaker 3: the minister what about the four years for the first

587
00:29:11,093 --> 00:29:13,413
Speaker 3: term and then three years for the second term? So

588
00:29:13,453 --> 00:29:15,853
Speaker 3: you've got to prove yourself you've got some runway for

589
00:29:15,893 --> 00:29:18,653
Speaker 3: the first time and then you've only got three years

590
00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:19,413
Speaker 3: in the second time.

591
00:29:20,493 --> 00:29:22,693
Speaker 2: Well well that's the suggestion.

592
00:29:22,773 --> 00:29:25,693
Speaker 3: That's not one that I've heard before. But I ask

593
00:29:25,733 --> 00:29:26,253
Speaker 3: yourself this.

594
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you look around the world. You

595
00:29:27,773 --> 00:29:30,493
Speaker 2: know that the Brits have got five year terms. I mean,

596
00:29:30,533 --> 00:29:32,773
Speaker 2: are they better governed? Is there any sort of evidence

597
00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:36,493
Speaker 2: to suggest that the three minutes?

598
00:29:36,973 --> 00:29:37,173
Speaker 6: Yeah?

599
00:29:37,253 --> 00:29:40,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I mean I think yeah, I think

600
00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:44,333
Speaker 2: the important thing in you know, with any government is

601
00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:47,853
Speaker 2: that you're clear what you're setting out to achieve, and

602
00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:51,293
Speaker 2: then you get held to account after a certain period

603
00:29:51,293 --> 00:29:52,973
Speaker 2: of it's three years or four years, and you've got

604
00:29:53,013 --> 00:29:55,333
Speaker 2: to front up and you know, so, well, yep, we

605
00:29:55,413 --> 00:29:57,573
Speaker 2: might not have solved every problem, but you know we're

606
00:29:57,573 --> 00:29:59,693
Speaker 2: heading in the right direction. Give us some more time

607
00:29:59,733 --> 00:30:01,453
Speaker 2: and you know that's going to be our pitch at

608
00:30:01,493 --> 00:30:05,853
Speaker 2: the end of the year. Ultimately, that's the key dynamic,

609
00:30:05,933 --> 00:30:08,253
Speaker 2: and that's you know that we're blessed as a kind

610
00:30:08,613 --> 00:30:10,933
Speaker 2: to be one of the few countries where around the

611
00:30:10,973 --> 00:30:13,133
Speaker 2: world where you know, people do have that choice and

612
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:14,773
Speaker 2: you know, if they don't like how things are going

613
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,773
Speaker 2: and kick us out and try with somebody else. We're

614
00:30:17,773 --> 00:30:22,093
Speaker 2: talking to Minister of Justice Paul Goldsmith. Final question. So

615
00:30:22,173 --> 00:30:24,173
Speaker 2: this is coming through because the argument is that you

616
00:30:24,253 --> 00:30:27,613
Speaker 2: get in, you learn what you know, you get your bearings,

617
00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:29,453
Speaker 2: and then you spend a year doing something. You spend

618
00:30:29,493 --> 00:30:33,813
Speaker 2: a year electioneering. Honestly speaking, in an election year, what

619
00:30:33,973 --> 00:30:37,693
Speaker 2: percentage of your time is spent getting re elected as

620
00:30:37,773 --> 00:30:42,293
Speaker 2: opposed to running the country and making things better. Yeah, well, look,

621
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Speaker 2: I mean and I think that's well, a fair amount,

622
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Speaker 2: but not not not an overwhelming amount. And you know,

623
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Speaker 2: I think just going back to the you know, this

624
00:30:51,973 --> 00:30:53,933
Speaker 2: idea that you spend the first year sort of figuring

625
00:30:54,013 --> 00:30:57,373
Speaker 2: things out, and that is you know that that's what

626
00:30:57,613 --> 00:31:01,133
Speaker 2: that's what's called preparation. And you know, our criticism of

627
00:31:01,213 --> 00:31:05,173
Speaker 2: the the just into our durn government and they came in,

628
00:31:05,253 --> 00:31:07,253
Speaker 2: they didn't seem to expect to have come in and

629
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:10,173
Speaker 2: they didn't really know what they were doing and fluffed around,

630
00:31:10,253 --> 00:31:13,053
Speaker 2: whereas you know, we had you know, I'd argue that

631
00:31:13,093 --> 00:31:16,013
Speaker 2: we had a very clear plan, you know, in the

632
00:31:16,173 --> 00:31:17,973
Speaker 2: justice space and the restoring law and order. We had

633
00:31:17,973 --> 00:31:19,293
Speaker 2: a who bunch of things we want to do, tough

634
00:31:19,373 --> 00:31:23,053
Speaker 2: enough sentences, you know, change the focus, and we're ripped

635
00:31:23,093 --> 00:31:25,053
Speaker 2: into it on day one and we're just going flat

636
00:31:25,053 --> 00:31:27,053
Speaker 2: out ever since. And so you don't have to muck

637
00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:29,053
Speaker 2: around for a year. If you're organized and you know

638
00:31:29,093 --> 00:31:32,613
Speaker 2: what you're doing, then that's that. That all works pretty well.

639
00:31:32,853 --> 00:31:36,133
Speaker 2: But then the third year, yes, you know, the election

640
00:31:36,293 --> 00:31:39,773
Speaker 2: looms on the horizon, but you're elected to government right

641
00:31:39,853 --> 00:31:41,533
Speaker 2: up to the end, and so we're not you know,

642
00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:45,333
Speaker 2: we're not sort of just stopping all all sort of

643
00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:49,853
Speaker 2: policy and just focusing on talking to town hall audiences.

644
00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:52,973
Speaker 2: We're definitely focused on getting as much done as we

645
00:31:53,013 --> 00:31:55,133
Speaker 2: possibly can. Would you be willing to put a percentage

646
00:31:55,133 --> 00:32:00,253
Speaker 2: of it how much electioneering and how much governing, I'd

647
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:01,653
Speaker 2: say it'd be ninety percent governing.

648
00:32:03,613 --> 00:32:06,293
Speaker 3: You can't disentangle it perfectly in the sense that.

649
00:32:06,373 --> 00:32:07,973
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, we're you know, when you're you're

650
00:32:07,973 --> 00:32:09,533
Speaker 2: out there talking to people all the time.

651
00:32:09,653 --> 00:32:11,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you've given us about two percent of your

652
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Speaker 3: day today, minister, So thanks you very well, Thanks very much, Yeah,

653
00:32:14,733 --> 00:32:16,293
Speaker 3: thank you very much. You always good to catch up

654
00:32:16,293 --> 00:32:18,053
Speaker 3: and hopefully we'll catch up again soon. That is just

655
00:32:18,093 --> 00:32:20,813
Speaker 3: as Minister Paul Goldsmith. So taking your thoughts, You've I

656
00:32:20,813 --> 00:32:22,533
Speaker 3: heard what he's got to say about shauvinet for the

657
00:32:22,533 --> 00:32:25,573
Speaker 3: time being. So do you think a four year parliamentary

658
00:32:25,653 --> 00:32:28,373
Speaker 3: term it was a mistake to ditch it. Oh, one

659
00:32:28,413 --> 00:32:29,933
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number quarter to.

660
00:32:29,933 --> 00:32:34,853
Speaker 4: Two Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons taking your calls

661
00:32:34,893 --> 00:32:37,533
Speaker 4: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty with Skoda?

662
00:32:37,693 --> 00:32:38,653
Speaker 7: Can you crack the code?

663
00:32:38,733 --> 00:32:41,773
Speaker 4: Plase Goda codes every day news talks, they'd be.

664
00:32:41,933 --> 00:32:44,773
Speaker 3: There's twelve to two Dallas. How you doing.

665
00:32:46,293 --> 00:32:46,773
Speaker 16: So?

666
00:32:46,933 --> 00:32:51,333
Speaker 17: Yeah? I think normally we we do vote government for

667
00:32:51,373 --> 00:32:54,653
Speaker 17: two terms. The national governor have never had one term,

668
00:32:55,733 --> 00:32:59,253
Speaker 17: so in effect, the first year you're getting your feet

669
00:32:59,333 --> 00:33:01,693
Speaker 17: under death, second year you're getting stuff done, third year

670
00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:06,013
Speaker 17: you're campaigning. Then if you get reelected, you've got year

671
00:33:06,133 --> 00:33:09,853
Speaker 17: four and five to get things done, and then you're

672
00:33:09,853 --> 00:33:10,653
Speaker 17: campaigning again.

673
00:33:11,213 --> 00:33:15,733
Speaker 2: So you think we effectively, unless you really crap the bed,

674
00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:19,013
Speaker 2: we effectively have a six six year term in New.

675
00:33:18,973 --> 00:33:23,453
Speaker 17: Zealand op sight, we normally give a governor. I think

676
00:33:23,453 --> 00:33:26,093
Speaker 17: that will happen again this year, We'll give them another

677
00:33:26,533 --> 00:33:30,293
Speaker 17: because he is that spear minded and we realized three

678
00:33:30,333 --> 00:33:34,253
Speaker 17: years is very short. Yeah normally yeah, oh.

679
00:33:34,213 --> 00:33:36,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I hear that argument. But again going back

680
00:33:36,653 --> 00:33:38,613
Speaker 3: to the electoral cycle, do you not think it is

681
00:33:38,653 --> 00:33:41,413
Speaker 3: a distraction and that government at the time will change

682
00:33:41,493 --> 00:33:44,693
Speaker 3: various aspects to try and cater and get across the

683
00:33:44,733 --> 00:33:47,253
Speaker 3: line again, Whereas if you've got a four year there's

684
00:33:47,293 --> 00:33:50,893
Speaker 3: not that need to try and change the trajectory that

685
00:33:50,933 --> 00:33:52,893
Speaker 3: you're going. You stay true to it because you believe

686
00:33:52,933 --> 00:33:55,293
Speaker 3: in it, You've always believed in it, instead of tweaking

687
00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:57,173
Speaker 3: it to try and stay in power.

688
00:33:58,653 --> 00:33:58,853
Speaker 10: Yeah.

689
00:33:59,053 --> 00:34:02,053
Speaker 18: Another argument for four years is it more time by

690
00:34:02,173 --> 00:34:05,853
Speaker 18: partisan stuff with the opposition here that for these big

691
00:34:05,933 --> 00:34:10,813
Speaker 18: projects we need bipartisan agreement on it. Does give you

692
00:34:10,893 --> 00:34:13,852
Speaker 18: more space, I think for that four years because you're

693
00:34:13,893 --> 00:34:17,772
Speaker 18: not you know, you're not campaigning until that fourth year.

694
00:34:18,493 --> 00:34:22,933
Speaker 18: So yeah, this arguments Tyler fought for against. But I

695
00:34:22,973 --> 00:34:25,772
Speaker 18: think on balance, I think we should keep it three years.

696
00:34:25,853 --> 00:34:28,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm just thinking. So I don't think in

697
00:34:28,773 --> 00:34:31,973
Speaker 2: the MMP era, unless I'm lost my mind, that there

698
00:34:32,013 --> 00:34:34,373
Speaker 2: has been a one term government in the MMP era,

699
00:34:34,533 --> 00:34:36,133
Speaker 2: I mean, you've had governments that are blown up to

700
00:34:36,173 --> 00:34:40,772
Speaker 2: a certain extent with coalition partners. But I'm pretty sure

701
00:34:40,853 --> 00:34:43,373
Speaker 2: since ninety ninety six it's always been two terms. So

702
00:34:43,493 --> 00:34:44,973
Speaker 2: you don't want to be the first one term government,

703
00:34:44,973 --> 00:34:45,693
Speaker 2: do you.

704
00:34:45,733 --> 00:34:47,652
Speaker 3: No, I'm just having a look at the history now

705
00:34:47,693 --> 00:34:50,013
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure this is right. So the first one

706
00:34:50,093 --> 00:34:53,172
Speaker 3: term government was the second Labor government led by Walter

707
00:34:53,293 --> 00:34:55,773
Speaker 3: Nash that was fifty seven to sixty and the next

708
00:34:55,773 --> 00:34:58,413
Speaker 3: one was the third Labor government led by Norman Kirk

709
00:34:58,653 --> 00:35:01,933
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy two. All right, that's it, yep.

710
00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:04,893
Speaker 2: The United Party in nineteen twenty eight was a one termer.

711
00:35:05,253 --> 00:35:09,853
Speaker 3: Okay, right, yep, poor old United Party. What did they do? Dallas,

712
00:35:09,933 --> 00:35:12,093
Speaker 3: thank you very much for giving us a buzz. Oh,

713
00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:13,853
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call.

714
00:35:13,933 --> 00:35:15,933
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text.

715
00:35:16,253 --> 00:35:22,093
Speaker 2: We don't want and can't afford a Senate. We need

716
00:35:22,093 --> 00:35:23,893
Speaker 2: to get rid of some of the current seats, not

717
00:35:24,013 --> 00:35:26,772
Speaker 2: add another layer. So the idea of having a Upper

718
00:35:26,773 --> 00:35:29,333
Speaker 2: House is maybe a packet full of experts that lock

719
00:35:29,373 --> 00:35:32,293
Speaker 2: at laws that are going through and check how robust

720
00:35:32,373 --> 00:35:35,173
Speaker 2: they are before they go through. But I think what

721
00:35:35,253 --> 00:35:37,613
Speaker 2: happened in New Zealand with the legislative councils. They ended

722
00:35:37,693 --> 00:35:41,933
Speaker 2: up not really having the authority to push back and

723
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:43,893
Speaker 2: they weren't really getting negotiated with, and they were just

724
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:47,373
Speaker 2: rubber stamping laws through. Yeah, we don't want was In

725
00:35:47,413 --> 00:35:50,093
Speaker 2: America the Senate is pretty pretty powerful. You have to

726
00:35:50,173 --> 00:35:53,613
Speaker 2: go through the Senate, and the same in Australia. Yeah,

727
00:35:53,653 --> 00:35:55,212
Speaker 2: but there's always calls to get rid of the House

728
00:35:55,213 --> 00:35:58,173
Speaker 2: of Laws in England, aren't they there.

729
00:35:58,013 --> 00:35:59,373
Speaker 3: Are I mean, I don't know.

730
00:35:59,413 --> 00:36:00,773
Speaker 2: I mean I'm speaking out of turn here, but the

731
00:36:00,813 --> 00:36:05,013
Speaker 2: House of Lords always seem like strange, stuffy people that

732
00:36:05,053 --> 00:36:07,013
Speaker 2: are a few weeks away from a six scandal. But

733
00:36:07,173 --> 00:36:11,013
Speaker 2: that's because I'm not across there, spicy, I'm not across

734
00:36:11,653 --> 00:36:14,613
Speaker 2: the UK politics as much as maybe I should be.

735
00:36:14,693 --> 00:36:16,812
Speaker 3: Sounds like a good time to me. It is nine

736
00:36:16,893 --> 00:36:19,613
Speaker 3: minutes to two, beg very shortly. Taking your calls of course, Oh,

737
00:36:19,653 --> 00:36:21,733
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

738
00:36:22,933 --> 00:36:26,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

739
00:36:26,573 --> 00:36:27,373
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty.

740
00:36:27,453 --> 00:36:30,613
Speaker 4: It's Matt Heath and Tylor Adams Afternoons.

741
00:36:30,013 --> 00:36:34,252
Speaker 3: News talksb News Talks there be. It is six to two.

742
00:36:34,293 --> 00:36:37,333
Speaker 3: We have been talking about the four year parliamentary term

743
00:36:37,493 --> 00:36:40,173
Speaker 3: will go no further because the Coalition and the Government

744
00:36:40,293 --> 00:36:41,893
Speaker 3: have effectively run out of time.

745
00:36:42,173 --> 00:36:44,933
Speaker 2: As Tex says, Matt for once, would you stop with

746
00:36:44,973 --> 00:36:48,373
Speaker 2: the childish six talk? The House of Lords isn't a

747
00:36:48,413 --> 00:36:51,453
Speaker 2: bunch of two minute six scandals. Well, I didn't know.

748
00:36:51,653 --> 00:36:54,692
Speaker 2: I didn't say they were two minent six scandals. I said.

749
00:36:54,973 --> 00:36:59,292
Speaker 2: My ignorant perception from the outside is that they're always

750
00:36:59,293 --> 00:37:01,293
Speaker 2: seemed to about two weeks away from a six scandal.

751
00:37:01,333 --> 00:37:05,533
Speaker 2: But there have been a few. Lord Ahmed, Lord Leicester.

752
00:37:05,933 --> 00:37:11,013
Speaker 2: This is just in the last ten years, cell Lord Magnanus,

753
00:37:11,413 --> 00:37:14,133
Speaker 2: Lord Taylor and Lord Stone of Blackheath.

754
00:37:14,253 --> 00:37:16,333
Speaker 3: It's a few lords up to no good? What was

755
00:37:16,853 --> 00:37:18,172
Speaker 3: is it the Secretary or is it.

756
00:37:18,893 --> 00:37:23,173
Speaker 2: Lord Lester accused of sexually harassing a woman. Lord Sarril

757
00:37:23,253 --> 00:37:26,973
Speaker 2: resigned allegedly using drugs and engaging with six workers. Okay, well,

758
00:37:27,413 --> 00:37:30,732
Speaker 2: Lord Magnanus an appropriate behavior towards young woman.

759
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:33,693
Speaker 3: He denied that, though, did he?

760
00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:39,813
Speaker 2: Lord Taylor of Wark? What in twenty eleven that wasn't

761
00:37:39,813 --> 00:37:42,653
Speaker 2: a sex scandal? What's the what's the good? Lord Stone

762
00:37:42,653 --> 00:37:46,093
Speaker 2: of black Heath? Been up to an appropriate conduct towards

763
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:49,693
Speaker 2: a staff member not of a sexual nature. Okay, okay,

764
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:53,813
Speaker 2: So for enough text message out of out of all

765
00:37:53,853 --> 00:38:02,093
Speaker 2: the many hundreds of lords that have been not a lot,

766
00:38:02,373 --> 00:38:04,293
Speaker 2: it's not every two weeks. I'm sorry, I'll take that back,

767
00:38:04,453 --> 00:38:05,053
Speaker 2: all right, But.

768
00:38:05,013 --> 00:38:06,413
Speaker 3: If five percent of them are up to no good

769
00:38:06,453 --> 00:38:07,893
Speaker 3: you know there's still a high percentage, isn't it?

770
00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:09,933
Speaker 2: Say Lord M not a good man?

771
00:38:10,013 --> 00:38:12,453
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got to look into that guy, right. Thank

772
00:38:12,533 --> 00:38:15,453
Speaker 3: you very much for all your phone calls and texts

773
00:38:15,493 --> 00:38:19,653
Speaker 3: on that interesting discussion, and I'm sure whoever gets elected

774
00:38:19,693 --> 00:38:21,973
Speaker 3: next year will face those same questions. But coming up

775
00:38:22,213 --> 00:38:24,973
Speaker 3: after two o'clock, we want to have a chat about

776
00:38:25,013 --> 00:38:27,813
Speaker 3: the old Humble Honesty Box. There was a bit of

777
00:38:27,813 --> 00:38:29,733
Speaker 3: a rant on social media. We'll read that out to

778
00:38:29,773 --> 00:38:32,293
Speaker 3: you about someone who put out the honesty box, but

779
00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:34,212
Speaker 3: they've had enough of it. So the question we've got

780
00:38:34,213 --> 00:38:37,213
Speaker 3: for you is have we become too dishonest for the

781
00:38:37,253 --> 00:38:40,053
Speaker 3: old honesty Box? In New Zealand? Wait, undred and eighty

782
00:38:40,133 --> 00:38:42,252
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two ninety

783
00:38:42,253 --> 00:38:44,772
Speaker 3: two is the text? New Sport and weather on its way? Great?

784
00:38:44,773 --> 00:38:46,813
Speaker 3: The have you come Ny you're listening to Matt and.

785
00:38:46,773 --> 00:38:57,693
Speaker 4: Tyler talking with you all afternoon.

786
00:38:57,853 --> 00:39:01,893
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda News Talks.

787
00:39:02,093 --> 00:39:04,893
Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon. Tit a is six past two

788
00:39:04,933 --> 00:39:07,373
Speaker 3: and just a reminder of our friends at Scoda could

789
00:39:07,413 --> 00:39:10,253
Speaker 3: be sending you and a friend to the Tour de France.

790
00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:12,613
Speaker 3: When you play scot Codes. If you need some help

791
00:39:12,613 --> 00:39:15,293
Speaker 3: with today's clue, just keep listening. We'll have a clue

792
00:39:15,293 --> 00:39:18,413
Speaker 3: for you later in the hour. It's fantastic price to

793
00:39:18,493 --> 00:39:21,252
Speaker 3: keep listening for that clue a little bit later on.

794
00:39:21,333 --> 00:39:24,053
Speaker 3: But let's get into this honesty boxes. This is after

795
00:39:24,293 --> 00:39:26,773
Speaker 3: a social media post. It's gone a bit viral in

796
00:39:26,813 --> 00:39:29,813
Speaker 3: New Zealand and here it is. Okay, that's it, no

797
00:39:29,893 --> 00:39:34,093
Speaker 3: more honesty box staol. I am over the theft IFFs.

798
00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:37,813
Speaker 3: It's ours of work and money to grow water, fertilize organic.

799
00:39:38,053 --> 00:39:40,933
Speaker 3: All the berries, grapes, fruit I grow to only find

800
00:39:40,933 --> 00:39:43,652
Speaker 3: most get stolen. I'm over it now, not putting any

801
00:39:43,653 --> 00:39:48,212
Speaker 3: more out. So what myself, family, friends don't eat can

802
00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:51,733
Speaker 3: go to the friends, pigs and chickens. I've had enough.

803
00:39:52,053 --> 00:39:54,373
Speaker 3: It's over. There's too many dishonest people out there.

804
00:39:55,573 --> 00:39:58,293
Speaker 2: That's they'd be a sad situation, wouldn't it, Because honesty

805
00:39:58,333 --> 00:40:03,453
Speaker 2: boxes are a huge part of driving around this country.

806
00:40:03,453 --> 00:40:06,093
Speaker 2: In the countryside, you see an honesty box, you buy

807
00:40:06,133 --> 00:40:10,933
Speaker 2: some fresh produced from the farmer. They get a bit

808
00:40:10,973 --> 00:40:14,493
Speaker 2: of extra money, you get something incredible to munch in

809
00:40:14,533 --> 00:40:16,853
Speaker 2: the car. It's truly one of the great things. So

810
00:40:17,053 --> 00:40:18,853
Speaker 2: they'd be a disaster if they go away.

811
00:40:19,053 --> 00:40:22,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lovely part of New Zealand life. But

812
00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:24,172
Speaker 3: you've got a wonder I mean saying that we're too

813
00:40:24,213 --> 00:40:27,453
Speaker 3: dishonest for honesty boxes right now? I mean, is there

814
00:40:27,493 --> 00:40:29,732
Speaker 3: some truth in that that if you run an honesty box?

815
00:40:29,813 --> 00:40:33,133
Speaker 3: Is it just too much work for you to? You know,

816
00:40:33,653 --> 00:40:36,133
Speaker 3: as this guy is saying, do all the growing, do

817
00:40:36,173 --> 00:40:39,373
Speaker 3: all the fertilizing, beautiful organic it's something nice to be

818
00:40:39,413 --> 00:40:41,213
Speaker 3: proud of that you're kind of given back to the

819
00:40:41,253 --> 00:40:43,253
Speaker 3: community as well. But you know they're giving you some

820
00:40:43,293 --> 00:40:45,933
Speaker 3: money on the side as well. The amount of thefts

821
00:40:46,013 --> 00:40:48,693
Speaker 3: that you may be experiencing. Is it just too much faff?

822
00:40:49,493 --> 00:40:52,533
Speaker 2: This text is interesting. Let's be honest. They aren't money making.

823
00:40:53,573 --> 00:40:57,533
Speaker 2: They are for fun. They don't really care if you

824
00:40:57,653 --> 00:41:01,732
Speaker 2: take a bit of fruit. Oh Oh, do you think

825
00:41:01,773 --> 00:41:05,172
Speaker 2: that's an attitude that's out there, because I've never heard

826
00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:07,453
Speaker 2: that attitude. I thought. I mean, if you run an

827
00:41:07,493 --> 00:41:09,573
Speaker 2: honesty boxes, you're still doing it, or you used to

828
00:41:09,773 --> 00:41:13,533
Speaker 2: and you stopped, would they a genuine money making situation?

829
00:41:14,253 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 2: It was pretty funny in Clarkson's farm when you put

830
00:41:16,573 --> 00:41:19,213
Speaker 2: those potatoes out in an honesty box. Yes, it's going

831
00:41:19,293 --> 00:41:22,013
Speaker 2: to work out. How much you would hear several tons

832
00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:23,093
Speaker 2: of potato had to sell?

833
00:41:23,373 --> 00:41:26,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, and eighty ten eighty you'd love to hear from you.

834
00:41:26,173 --> 00:41:28,373
Speaker 3: If you still run an honesty box, do you actually

835
00:41:28,413 --> 00:41:30,733
Speaker 3: make some good money from it? Or are you like

836
00:41:30,853 --> 00:41:33,573
Speaker 3: this poster, experiencing so much theft that you just think,

837
00:41:33,613 --> 00:41:35,853
Speaker 3: what the hell's happened to good old life in New

838
00:41:35,933 --> 00:41:37,493
Speaker 3: Zealand that we can't do this anymore.

839
00:41:37,613 --> 00:41:40,813
Speaker 2: What kind of scum just pulls over and takes something

840
00:41:40,853 --> 00:41:43,253
Speaker 2: from an honesty box? I actually know what kind of

841
00:41:43,253 --> 00:41:45,573
Speaker 2: scum because a friend of mine did it. But my

842
00:41:45,693 --> 00:41:48,013
Speaker 2: friend of mine this is when we were back at

843
00:41:48,053 --> 00:41:49,893
Speaker 2: school and we were driving up north. It was a

844
00:41:49,893 --> 00:41:51,933
Speaker 2: bit of a convoy. They were in a different car

845
00:41:52,053 --> 00:41:57,053
Speaker 2: than us, and they pulled over and this particular Canadian

846
00:41:57,053 --> 00:42:01,613
Speaker 2: exchange students Canadians. We saw they were doing in the curling,

847
00:42:02,493 --> 00:42:04,853
Speaker 2: claiming to not be pushing, but they were cheating dirty

848
00:42:05,093 --> 00:42:08,733
Speaker 2: even though they swore at the sweet thin They're off

849
00:42:08,733 --> 00:42:12,173
Speaker 2: again speed anyway, this I'm going off topic. You They

850
00:42:13,733 --> 00:42:16,053
Speaker 2: she just grabbed the stuff, but then the people that

851
00:42:16,053 --> 00:42:18,013
Speaker 2: around the Honesty Box called the cops and they got

852
00:42:18,013 --> 00:42:19,573
Speaker 2: pulled over and she was done with shoplifting.

853
00:42:19,733 --> 00:42:19,973
Speaker 7: Good.

854
00:42:20,333 --> 00:42:22,093
Speaker 2: You can't have this is back in the nineteen.

855
00:42:21,893 --> 00:42:23,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't have Canadian tourists coming in here and

856
00:42:23,653 --> 00:42:26,053
Speaker 3: stealing fruit. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

857
00:42:26,133 --> 00:42:27,772
Speaker 3: the number to call with the days of the old

858
00:42:27,813 --> 00:42:31,533
Speaker 3: honesty box long gone, or he's still running one and

859
00:42:31,573 --> 00:42:33,613
Speaker 3: it's actually going well for you if you run some

860
00:42:33,613 --> 00:42:36,013
Speaker 3: sort of QR codes. Situation love to hear from you

861
00:42:36,053 --> 00:42:38,893
Speaker 3: whether that stops it. Nine nine two is the text

862
00:42:38,893 --> 00:42:39,373
Speaker 3: as well.

863
00:42:39,413 --> 00:42:41,493
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of fajoas growing at my house.

864
00:42:42,133 --> 00:42:44,053
Speaker 2: I might put this to the test. I might put

865
00:42:44,053 --> 00:42:46,293
Speaker 2: a little honesty box out with a little QR code

866
00:42:46,333 --> 00:42:49,693
Speaker 2: with my bank account details and see if anyone pays

867
00:42:49,733 --> 00:42:51,093
Speaker 2: for the fajoas.

868
00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:52,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you going to price them at?

869
00:42:53,453 --> 00:42:55,973
Speaker 2: Nearly nothing? Because we've basically got a Fijoa apocalypse at

870
00:42:55,973 --> 00:42:58,573
Speaker 2: our house. Every year, the same thing happens so many

871
00:42:58,573 --> 00:42:59,453
Speaker 2: for joas.

872
00:42:59,893 --> 00:43:01,693
Speaker 3: So people will be helping you out, but key to

873
00:43:01,733 --> 00:43:03,693
Speaker 3: hear from you. I eatee hundred and eighty ten eighty

874
00:43:03,893 --> 00:43:06,013
Speaker 3: honesty box. When was the last time you actually saw

875
00:43:06,053 --> 00:43:08,053
Speaker 3: one on the road and bought something? And if you're

876
00:43:08,093 --> 00:43:10,693
Speaker 3: run that operation, how much money are you making? Is

877
00:43:10,733 --> 00:43:13,613
Speaker 3: it still worth it? Or is there too many low

878
00:43:13,693 --> 00:43:14,973
Speaker 3: life thieves out there?

879
00:43:15,053 --> 00:43:15,133
Speaker 5: Hi?

880
00:43:15,253 --> 00:43:18,413
Speaker 2: Guys, My boy was picking, bagging and selling for Joe's

881
00:43:18,453 --> 00:43:20,973
Speaker 2: on the roadside with donations, was making up to twenty

882
00:43:21,013 --> 00:43:23,493
Speaker 2: dollars per day, which was amazing for him to work

883
00:43:23,493 --> 00:43:27,013
Speaker 2: out and see the resorts. One the money box was taken.

884
00:43:27,333 --> 00:43:29,692
Speaker 2: He was very upset, but also learned a lesson.

885
00:43:29,693 --> 00:43:31,213
Speaker 3: You can't trust anyone.

886
00:43:31,293 --> 00:43:33,093
Speaker 2: Well that's a terrible listen to learn, isn't it. It's

887
00:43:33,133 --> 00:43:35,933
Speaker 2: a horrible situation. So he was bagging and selling for

888
00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:40,213
Speaker 2: Joe's on the roadside with donations, was making twenty dollars

889
00:43:40,253 --> 00:43:41,933
Speaker 2: a day. So this is sort of a fun kind

890
00:43:41,973 --> 00:43:48,893
Speaker 2: of situation, a young boy learning business and such, so

891
00:43:48,893 --> 00:43:52,293
Speaker 2: it doesn't look like he was tending it. But someone

892
00:43:52,373 --> 00:43:54,053
Speaker 2: took the money box as well.

893
00:43:54,213 --> 00:43:56,093
Speaker 3: Dirty buggers, absolutely dirty.

894
00:43:57,173 --> 00:43:59,293
Speaker 2: Though you're not just taking the fairs, you're also taking

895
00:43:59,373 --> 00:44:00,413
Speaker 2: the money box as well.

896
00:44:02,493 --> 00:44:04,813
Speaker 3: Is that number to call? It is eleven past two

897
00:44:04,893 --> 00:44:05,253
Speaker 3: Back in a.

898
00:44:05,253 --> 00:44:10,453
Speaker 4: Month your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

899
00:44:10,533 --> 00:44:14,453
Speaker 4: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said be.

900
00:44:16,693 --> 00:44:18,933
Speaker 3: For a good afternoon. So we're talking about honesty boxes.

901
00:44:18,973 --> 00:44:22,413
Speaker 3: This is after quite a full on rant that was online.

902
00:44:22,453 --> 00:44:25,573
Speaker 3: It's gone viral about someone who was running an honesty box.

903
00:44:25,693 --> 00:44:28,453
Speaker 3: But I've had enough, it says, after hours of worked

904
00:44:28,533 --> 00:44:31,053
Speaker 3: and money to grow, water fertilized, it's all organic, all

905
00:44:31,093 --> 00:44:33,893
Speaker 3: the berries, grapes and fruit, only to find it gets

906
00:44:33,933 --> 00:44:36,172
Speaker 3: stolen off. Had enough and it's all over. So if

907
00:44:36,213 --> 00:44:38,493
Speaker 3: you run an honesty box, is that the situation you're

908
00:44:38,893 --> 00:44:41,293
Speaker 3: facing at the moment? Or is there still money to

909
00:44:41,333 --> 00:44:42,973
Speaker 3: be made in the good old honesty box?

910
00:44:42,973 --> 00:44:44,973
Speaker 2: The situation I'm facing us and my headphones are broken

911
00:44:44,973 --> 00:44:45,813
Speaker 2: again again?

912
00:44:46,013 --> 00:44:48,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, the goldies man to letting you down.

913
00:44:48,293 --> 00:44:51,413
Speaker 2: I'm going going I was gonna say blind, but deaf.

914
00:44:51,413 --> 00:44:52,053
Speaker 3: You're going mono.

915
00:44:52,173 --> 00:44:55,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going mono, Yeah, not even mono. They removed

916
00:44:55,853 --> 00:44:58,533
Speaker 2: all the money money boxes after they saw me coming

917
00:44:58,573 --> 00:45:00,652
Speaker 2: from Toronto. Yeah, I mean that was a bit harsh

918
00:45:00,653 --> 00:45:03,493
Speaker 2: of the Canadians, just because I knew one a Canadian

919
00:45:03,653 --> 00:45:10,413
Speaker 2: exchange student that stole fruit from Honesty Box and there

920
00:45:10,493 --> 00:45:13,213
Speaker 2: was one Canadian that was a cheating in the curling

921
00:45:13,813 --> 00:45:18,053
Speaker 2: and that they screwed us on tariffs as a country.

922
00:45:18,373 --> 00:45:20,652
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that every Canadian is going to steal from

923
00:45:21,533 --> 00:45:22,172
Speaker 2: Honesty Box.

924
00:45:22,293 --> 00:45:24,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, just most of them. So I really can to

925
00:45:24,773 --> 00:45:27,013
Speaker 3: hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty, if

926
00:45:27,013 --> 00:45:30,013
Speaker 3: you're still running an honesty box, is it's still worth it?

927
00:45:30,133 --> 00:45:32,333
Speaker 3: When you mentioned potatoes as well on Clarkson's farm, that

928
00:45:32,373 --> 00:45:34,293
Speaker 3: was a great episode. But there was actually a friend

929
00:45:34,773 --> 00:45:36,613
Speaker 3: head down in christ et Set so they paid their

930
00:45:36,653 --> 00:45:39,373
Speaker 3: way through university is doing the old potatoes. They made

931
00:45:39,413 --> 00:45:42,373
Speaker 3: some bank, they reckon. They made about six k per season,

932
00:45:42,413 --> 00:45:44,373
Speaker 3: but they had a big operation. They had the tractor

933
00:45:44,373 --> 00:45:46,613
Speaker 3: out there getting the potatoes ready, putting the sacks on

934
00:45:46,653 --> 00:45:48,653
Speaker 3: the side of the road. But six k in a

935
00:45:48,733 --> 00:45:50,773
Speaker 3: season that is some good money. When they told me that,

936
00:45:50,813 --> 00:45:52,653
Speaker 3: so I should get into potatoes.

937
00:45:52,373 --> 00:45:54,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so that Texas sid Let's be honest, they're

938
00:45:54,333 --> 00:45:57,413
Speaker 2: not making money from it, so it's not really stealing.

939
00:45:58,133 --> 00:46:00,333
Speaker 2: Not true. Hey guys. We used to have a dishonesty

940
00:46:00,413 --> 00:46:03,733
Speaker 2: box in our roadside cherry stool in the mid nineties.

941
00:46:03,733 --> 00:46:07,253
Speaker 2: The last straw was one RVO. When going to replenish it,

942
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:09,853
Speaker 2: we discovered not only where all the cherries gone, but

943
00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:12,573
Speaker 2: someone had taken bolt cutters to the box that was

944
00:46:12,693 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 2: empty too. Never again, not only did you lose cherries

945
00:46:16,853 --> 00:46:18,573
Speaker 2: and the money, you also lost the money box.

946
00:46:18,853 --> 00:46:21,853
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean, isn't it a nice thing

947
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:23,773
Speaker 3: that if you've got some fruit grown on your property

948
00:46:23,813 --> 00:46:25,933
Speaker 3: to get the kids to do like that is the

949
00:46:25,973 --> 00:46:29,013
Speaker 3: early stage of learning how to run a business. That

950
00:46:29,053 --> 00:46:30,733
Speaker 3: you get the kids to collect all the fruit, you

951
00:46:30,773 --> 00:46:32,813
Speaker 3: put them on the side of the stall and try

952
00:46:32,813 --> 00:46:34,493
Speaker 3: and make some money. If you're still doing that, love

953
00:46:34,573 --> 00:46:36,493
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Oh eight one hundred eighty eight.

954
00:46:36,853 --> 00:46:38,613
Speaker 2: Oh look at this. So there's a story in the

955
00:46:38,653 --> 00:46:43,213
Speaker 2: Otago Daily Times today about this very thing. Pay us

956
00:46:43,213 --> 00:46:46,212
Speaker 2: the money honey. The owner of a honey stool south

957
00:46:46,213 --> 00:46:48,533
Speaker 2: of Dunedin is on the hunt for a brazen and chronic,

958
00:46:48,573 --> 00:46:51,773
Speaker 2: sticky fingered honey thief who has allegedly been helping himself

959
00:46:51,813 --> 00:46:54,893
Speaker 2: to the stool's product without paying for years. A Tago

960
00:46:54,973 --> 00:46:58,253
Speaker 2: Gold Honey co owned owner Carlie McCaw is appealing to

961
00:46:58,293 --> 00:47:02,413
Speaker 2: the public to help identify the mystery woman. I like

962
00:47:02,453 --> 00:47:04,933
Speaker 2: the sticky finger pun there night, and she said that

963
00:47:04,933 --> 00:47:07,933
Speaker 2: the latest incident happened on Tuesday. After a year of

964
00:47:07,933 --> 00:47:11,533
Speaker 2: the woman staying away from the stall in Whitehola, the

965
00:47:11,573 --> 00:47:15,053
Speaker 2: woman was captured on CCTV helping herself to a large

966
00:47:15,453 --> 00:47:18,533
Speaker 2: armful of honey and eggs. She then left before returning

967
00:47:18,573 --> 00:47:20,453
Speaker 2: later in the day for a second helping. The eggs

968
00:47:20,453 --> 00:47:23,533
Speaker 2: had been collected by a young White Hola girl who

969
00:47:23,613 --> 00:47:25,053
Speaker 2: was selling them for pocket money.

970
00:47:25,253 --> 00:47:25,813
Speaker 3: Scarm.

971
00:47:26,133 --> 00:47:31,373
Speaker 2: She's taken advantage and stolen four dozen eggs. The young

972
00:47:31,413 --> 00:47:33,453
Speaker 2: girl does it for pocket money, so it's coming straight

973
00:47:33,493 --> 00:47:36,172
Speaker 2: out of her pocket. She said. This particular individual had

974
00:47:36,173 --> 00:47:38,733
Speaker 2: probably visited the store five or six times over a

975
00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:40,693
Speaker 2: two year period, and they've got a big shot of her.

976
00:47:40,933 --> 00:47:45,053
Speaker 3: Of the speed dealers and then the beanie operation bad person,

977
00:47:45,253 --> 00:47:48,373
Speaker 3: bad person returning to the scene of the client crime.

978
00:47:48,773 --> 00:47:50,692
Speaker 3: She looks like she I mean, it's the same kind

979
00:47:50,693 --> 00:47:53,373
Speaker 3: of outfit she's gone on each time. Whether the speed

980
00:47:53,373 --> 00:47:55,732
Speaker 3: dealer sunglasses, a kind of save her being identified does

981
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:56,493
Speaker 3: I'm good photos.

982
00:47:56,533 --> 00:48:00,293
Speaker 2: Every event, every visit ended with her taking arm armfuls

983
00:48:00,333 --> 00:48:03,533
Speaker 2: of stuff. Miss mccause said they were occasionally short changed

984
00:48:03,573 --> 00:48:06,533
Speaker 2: at the Honesty Box, which was unfortunate but just part

985
00:48:06,573 --> 00:48:09,133
Speaker 2: of the job. However, this particular the vigil is very,

986
00:48:09,213 --> 00:48:11,773
Speaker 2: very blatant. She just walks in, grabs a whole lot,

987
00:48:11,813 --> 00:48:14,613
Speaker 2: and walks out again. Tracking the thief would not only

988
00:48:14,653 --> 00:48:18,013
Speaker 2: benefit then, but also other roadside still operators, as if

989
00:48:18,053 --> 00:48:21,133
Speaker 2: it's if it's happening to us, it can be happening

990
00:48:21,133 --> 00:48:23,373
Speaker 2: to other people. Look at that, there's such good shots

991
00:48:23,373 --> 00:48:27,172
Speaker 2: of the scumbag and the speed dealers. Yeah, they're gonna

992
00:48:27,173 --> 00:48:31,733
Speaker 2: they're gonna find out who that dirty, sticky fingered egg

993
00:48:31,893 --> 00:48:33,813
Speaker 2: thieving scumbag?

994
00:48:34,053 --> 00:48:36,373
Speaker 3: How low oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty If

995
00:48:36,373 --> 00:48:38,973
Speaker 3: you're running Honesty Box, is this something you're facing? Love

996
00:48:39,013 --> 00:48:41,333
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Nineteen ninety two if you want

997
00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:45,853
Speaker 3: to send a text Terry, you were selling some few

998
00:48:45,933 --> 00:48:46,933
Speaker 3: Joels on the side of the road.

999
00:48:48,053 --> 00:48:50,853
Speaker 19: Yes, good afternoon. Yeah, my boys got three of them

1000
00:48:51,053 --> 00:48:54,373
Speaker 19: and we had quite a few feet Joel trees. So

1001
00:48:54,453 --> 00:48:56,453
Speaker 19: they were going on a school camp. They were at

1002
00:48:56,453 --> 00:49:00,413
Speaker 19: primary school, and I said that we'll pack up some

1003
00:49:00,933 --> 00:49:03,493
Speaker 19: fijoels and put them out on a you know, like

1004
00:49:03,533 --> 00:49:05,693
Speaker 19: an old card table out here the lean of box.

1005
00:49:05,733 --> 00:49:07,893
Speaker 19: And the boys got quite graphic and made a little

1006
00:49:07,893 --> 00:49:11,213
Speaker 19: whetehigh and people were taking them and leaving some money.

1007
00:49:11,213 --> 00:49:14,933
Speaker 19: And then on a Friday we were missing the whole lot,

1008
00:49:15,013 --> 00:49:17,733
Speaker 19: big and money, so not much you can do. But

1009
00:49:17,853 --> 00:49:21,333
Speaker 19: the following week and ironically, about the same time, the

1010
00:49:21,373 --> 00:49:23,213
Speaker 19: boys were doing the same thing, and they were up

1011
00:49:23,213 --> 00:49:25,893
Speaker 19: in the tree hut and they noticed a vehicle pull

1012
00:49:25,973 --> 00:49:29,493
Speaker 19: up and took all the bags are there. There was five,

1013
00:49:30,093 --> 00:49:33,732
Speaker 19: and instead of taking the putting money in the lead box,

1014
00:49:33,773 --> 00:49:35,692
Speaker 19: they took the money out of the leader box. And

1015
00:49:35,733 --> 00:49:39,893
Speaker 19: my two older boys witnessed it and got the color

1016
00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:41,933
Speaker 19: of the car. Not so much to make a model,

1017
00:49:42,053 --> 00:49:44,453
Speaker 19: they were too young for that, but certainly got three

1018
00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:46,893
Speaker 19: quarters of a number plate, and I was able to

1019
00:49:46,933 --> 00:49:49,853
Speaker 19: trace who it was. I went around there and explained

1020
00:49:49,893 --> 00:49:54,773
Speaker 19: the situation, and the woman was most embarrassed and gave

1021
00:49:54,853 --> 00:49:56,893
Speaker 19: me a fifty dollars note to give to the boys.

1022
00:49:57,933 --> 00:50:01,292
Speaker 3: Well that's a nice end to that story. But yeah,

1023
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:03,133
Speaker 3: I mean, how did the boys feel originally when they

1024
00:50:03,133 --> 00:50:03,413
Speaker 3: saw that?

1025
00:50:04,133 --> 00:50:08,573
Speaker 19: Oh, they got it, got it. How someone could you know,

1026
00:50:08,933 --> 00:50:11,853
Speaker 19: like still for a start, because you know, like my

1027
00:50:11,933 --> 00:50:14,733
Speaker 19: wife and I brought the boys up. But honestly, is

1028
00:50:14,773 --> 00:50:17,652
Speaker 19: one of those five rules that just count the most,

1029
00:50:17,693 --> 00:50:19,173
Speaker 19: you know, so that will got it?

1030
00:50:19,733 --> 00:50:22,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, do you think it is a state

1031
00:50:22,533 --> 00:50:24,573
Speaker 3: of the situation at the momentary that we're you know,

1032
00:50:24,613 --> 00:50:27,053
Speaker 3: so many people are just too dishonest for honesty boxes.

1033
00:50:28,173 --> 00:50:31,093
Speaker 19: Yeah? Well, I think I think it is creeping a

1034
00:50:31,093 --> 00:50:34,453
Speaker 19: little bit because some friends of out just to be

1035
00:50:34,493 --> 00:50:37,253
Speaker 19: told that they were selling flowers at their garden, at

1036
00:50:37,293 --> 00:50:42,133
Speaker 19: their front gate from their garden, and just over the

1037
00:50:42,213 --> 00:50:47,013
Speaker 19: Valentine's Day, a few bunchreds of flowers went missing and

1038
00:50:47,053 --> 00:50:49,893
Speaker 19: no one paid for them. And you think it's just

1039
00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:52,853
Speaker 19: wrong that people take that edityde for a start, only

1040
00:50:52,933 --> 00:50:55,853
Speaker 19: asking ten dollars for a bunch. I mean, what could

1041
00:50:55,893 --> 00:50:58,212
Speaker 19: you expect the ten dollars, he said, the beautiful bunch

1042
00:50:58,253 --> 00:51:00,213
Speaker 19: of flowers for whoever good value?

1043
00:51:01,133 --> 00:51:03,573
Speaker 3: Absolutely ten bucks for nice flowers. Terry, thank you very

1044
00:51:03,613 --> 00:51:05,692
Speaker 3: much for giving us a buzz one hundred and eighty

1045
00:51:05,693 --> 00:51:07,652
Speaker 3: ten eighty. If you're still running an honesty boxes are

1046
00:51:07,653 --> 00:51:08,173
Speaker 3: going well.

1047
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:10,693
Speaker 2: But this one, boys, we stopped selling our eggs and produce.

1048
00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:14,893
Speaker 2: Because of theft of money boxes and products, we decided

1049
00:51:14,933 --> 00:51:17,732
Speaker 2: to put a camera up. People are very dishonest, even

1050
00:51:17,773 --> 00:51:20,253
Speaker 2: the next door neighbor, I know. So they put up

1051
00:51:20,293 --> 00:51:23,333
Speaker 2: a camera discover that the next door neighbor was stealing

1052
00:51:23,893 --> 00:51:25,093
Speaker 2: stealing eggs from them.

1053
00:51:25,173 --> 00:51:27,253
Speaker 3: You got to confront them. That is bad behavior.

1054
00:51:27,373 --> 00:51:29,453
Speaker 2: This test is where is your heart shaming that woman?

1055
00:51:29,493 --> 00:51:32,773
Speaker 2: She's probably hungry and just stealing honey for her family.

1056
00:51:33,013 --> 00:51:35,093
Speaker 2: I don't know if you steal honey for your family.

1057
00:51:35,333 --> 00:51:37,853
Speaker 2: What's that song that goes, I don't mom, I'm stealing

1058
00:51:38,013 --> 00:51:43,613
Speaker 2: breed from the mouths decade. That's a bit different. You're

1059
00:51:43,613 --> 00:51:47,973
Speaker 2: talking stealing breed defeg you mean you don't need honey? Yeah,

1060
00:51:48,093 --> 00:51:51,053
Speaker 2: this woman in the speed dealers, isn't it?

1061
00:51:51,093 --> 00:51:52,652
Speaker 3: And it was leaders of her. I mean, how much

1062
00:51:52,853 --> 00:51:56,172
Speaker 3: honey do you need to speed your family's she's she's

1063
00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:58,853
Speaker 3: not the victim in this particular situation.

1064
00:51:59,093 --> 00:51:59,293
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1065
00:52:00,453 --> 00:52:03,213
Speaker 3: Y two is the text number and one hundred and

1066
00:52:03,253 --> 00:52:05,773
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. If you are still running an honesty box,

1067
00:52:06,053 --> 00:52:07,933
Speaker 3: how is it going for you? Love to hear from

1068
00:52:08,013 --> 00:52:13,773
Speaker 3: you bag very shortly. It is twenty two past two.

1069
00:52:14,933 --> 00:52:18,293
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1070
00:52:18,293 --> 00:52:20,533
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on used talk ZDV.

1071
00:52:20,573 --> 00:52:23,173
Speaker 3: Twenty five pasts too. So we're talking about honesty boxes.

1072
00:52:23,453 --> 00:52:25,133
Speaker 3: Is it just the state of the world at the

1073
00:52:25,133 --> 00:52:27,172
Speaker 3: moment that it's too hard to run an honesty box

1074
00:52:27,173 --> 00:52:29,173
Speaker 3: because there's too many dishonest people out there? Oh, e

1075
00:52:29,173 --> 00:52:30,773
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1076
00:52:31,173 --> 00:52:33,813
Speaker 2: Is it too hard to set up? I mean it

1077
00:52:33,893 --> 00:52:36,293
Speaker 2: sounds depressing, isn't it. But to set up an honesty

1078
00:52:36,333 --> 00:52:38,533
Speaker 2: box where you have to pay the money before the

1079
00:52:38,573 --> 00:52:42,172
Speaker 2: thing opens, not quite a vending machine. But is there

1080
00:52:42,293 --> 00:52:45,573
Speaker 2: some kind of really simple tech technology where at least

1081
00:52:45,653 --> 00:52:47,333
Speaker 2: you have to put some money in before you reach

1082
00:52:47,413 --> 00:52:49,813
Speaker 2: your hand in to grab the that the fruit.

1083
00:52:49,933 --> 00:52:52,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you run like a QR cod situation. Yeah,

1084
00:52:52,653 --> 00:52:54,213
Speaker 3: I love to hear from you. Nine to nine two's the.

1085
00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:56,293
Speaker 2: Text Wayne says. I was selling eggs at our gate.

1086
00:52:56,373 --> 00:52:58,933
Speaker 2: Most of the thieves I caught on camera were thirty

1087
00:52:58,933 --> 00:53:01,893
Speaker 2: to four year old males, thirty to forty year old males.

1088
00:53:01,893 --> 00:53:04,373
Speaker 2: One was shirtless and had heads Up tattooed on his chest.

1089
00:53:04,573 --> 00:53:06,973
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this was a head hunter tattoo until

1090
00:53:07,013 --> 00:53:10,413
Speaker 2: after I out at him on the local Facebook page.

1091
00:53:10,413 --> 00:53:13,173
Speaker 2: His mates would have got a good laugh. Tough gang.

1092
00:53:13,173 --> 00:53:14,413
Speaker 2: They were stealing eggs.

1093
00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:17,493
Speaker 3: In this Yeah, that is some justice.

1094
00:53:17,093 --> 00:53:19,333
Speaker 2: And a lot of Look, I think I've stirred up

1095
00:53:19,373 --> 00:53:21,373
Speaker 2: some unnecessary anti Canadian rhetoric here.

1096
00:53:21,493 --> 00:53:23,533
Speaker 3: This is a diplomatic incident at this point, I think.

1097
00:53:23,573 --> 00:53:26,253
Speaker 2: Plus, the Canadian women's football team spied on our private

1098
00:53:26,293 --> 00:53:29,573
Speaker 2: training lot. Yeah, yeah, very true, just just because just

1099
00:53:29,613 --> 00:53:32,373
Speaker 2: because they did that, and they cheated in the curling

1100
00:53:32,373 --> 00:53:37,133
Speaker 2: at the Winter Olympics. And one exchange student stole from

1101
00:53:37,173 --> 00:53:39,373
Speaker 2: an honesty box when we were on a road ship

1102
00:53:39,413 --> 00:53:42,133
Speaker 2: in the nineties. Yeah, I think we can just blame

1103
00:53:42,173 --> 00:53:43,093
Speaker 2: all Canadians for it.

1104
00:53:43,133 --> 00:53:45,133
Speaker 3: I'm sure most of them are all right, get a dicky,

1105
00:53:45,253 --> 00:53:45,732
Speaker 3: how are you?

1106
00:53:46,533 --> 00:53:47,013
Speaker 10: Yeah good?

1107
00:53:47,093 --> 00:53:48,413
Speaker 4: How are you guys good?

1108
00:53:48,573 --> 00:53:50,013
Speaker 3: So you run an honesty box?

1109
00:53:51,293 --> 00:53:53,493
Speaker 13: No, I don't run an honesty box. But I was

1110
00:53:53,533 --> 00:53:55,973
Speaker 13: just ringing to say that this seems to be a

1111
00:53:56,053 --> 00:53:59,973
Speaker 13: general perception that what grows out of the ground and

1112
00:54:00,333 --> 00:54:05,733
Speaker 13: exists on farms is grown for free and exists for free.

1113
00:54:06,653 --> 00:54:09,813
Speaker 13: I mean, this is a mindset that a lot of

1114
00:54:09,853 --> 00:54:11,933
Speaker 13: people think, oh, well, that's not cost him and I

1115
00:54:11,973 --> 00:54:14,413
Speaker 13: think because it's grown out of the ground, so we're

1116
00:54:14,453 --> 00:54:16,853
Speaker 13: not paying for it. But the main reason, Irang was

1117
00:54:16,973 --> 00:54:20,133
Speaker 13: interesting that you're getting a lot of talk about Canadians.

1118
00:54:20,973 --> 00:54:24,013
Speaker 13: The other day, I stopped there was a car broken

1119
00:54:24,053 --> 00:54:27,253
Speaker 13: down on the side of the road, and so I'll

1120
00:54:27,253 --> 00:54:29,933
Speaker 13: stopped to see if the guy needed a hand, had

1121
00:54:29,933 --> 00:54:31,973
Speaker 13: a look under the bonnet and I could see that

1122
00:54:32,053 --> 00:54:37,212
Speaker 13: the seal on his water pump was leaking. And we've

1123
00:54:37,253 --> 00:54:40,933
Speaker 13: worked out that he was a Canadian. And I said, well,

1124
00:54:40,973 --> 00:54:44,413
Speaker 13: it looks like you're blown a seal mate, and he goes, well,

1125
00:54:44,453 --> 00:54:45,453
Speaker 13: so what you key with?

1126
00:54:45,613 --> 00:54:46,253
Speaker 9: Shag sheep?

1127
00:54:47,173 --> 00:54:51,853
Speaker 3: Wow? What say you try and boost up Canada? And

1128
00:54:51,893 --> 00:54:54,253
Speaker 3: you say it's not all Canadians But come on, that's

1129
00:54:54,253 --> 00:54:57,213
Speaker 3: sort of behavior and you weren't you weren't That was

1130
00:54:57,293 --> 00:54:58,533
Speaker 3: unnecessary from him?

1131
00:54:58,533 --> 00:54:58,893
Speaker 2: Surely.

1132
00:55:00,293 --> 00:55:02,293
Speaker 13: Well, yeah, we had a bit of a laugh about it,

1133
00:55:02,333 --> 00:55:04,853
Speaker 13: but yeah, that was the first thing he said.

1134
00:55:05,333 --> 00:55:08,013
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, yeah, cheap.

1135
00:55:08,533 --> 00:55:10,573
Speaker 2: We don't, yeah, we don't.

1136
00:55:10,733 --> 00:55:13,853
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, we can say that categorically. I don't.

1137
00:55:14,253 --> 00:55:16,373
Speaker 2: New Zealand and Wales needs to take a class action.

1138
00:55:16,813 --> 00:55:17,053
Speaker 7: We do.

1139
00:55:17,453 --> 00:55:20,573
Speaker 3: It's gone too far. It has gone too far, this loving.

1140
00:55:20,333 --> 00:55:22,173
Speaker 2: Business against some other countries.

1141
00:55:22,253 --> 00:55:25,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just not fear with that kind of Oh

1142
00:55:25,573 --> 00:55:27,173
Speaker 3: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1143
00:55:27,413 --> 00:55:27,733
Speaker 17: I don't know.

1144
00:55:27,813 --> 00:55:30,733
Speaker 3: That's an interesting point what Dicky was saying that, you know,

1145
00:55:30,933 --> 00:55:33,733
Speaker 3: is that the case that if it is fruit or

1146
00:55:33,773 --> 00:55:35,933
Speaker 3: growing in the ground, there's a mentality that I can

1147
00:55:35,973 --> 00:55:37,772
Speaker 3: help myself to that. I don't think when it comes

1148
00:55:37,773 --> 00:55:41,013
Speaker 3: to the honesty box. But if you are walking along

1149
00:55:41,053 --> 00:55:42,573
Speaker 3: the side of the road and you see some apples

1150
00:55:42,573 --> 00:55:45,893
Speaker 3: growing on someone's tree, is he kind of a mentality

1151
00:55:45,973 --> 00:55:47,533
Speaker 3: I've got the right to take one of those apples,

1152
00:55:47,613 --> 00:55:49,493
Speaker 3: or in your case, you fi joa well.

1153
00:55:49,573 --> 00:55:51,173
Speaker 2: Is it a bit of a farmer maggot situation?

1154
00:55:51,813 --> 00:55:52,253
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1155
00:55:52,333 --> 00:55:54,373
Speaker 2: And Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Rings with

1156
00:55:54,453 --> 00:55:58,812
Speaker 2: Maria and Pippin, he's a farmer maggot runs that East

1157
00:55:58,813 --> 00:56:02,813
Speaker 2: Farming East Farthing Farm on the shire. When they run it,

1158
00:56:02,853 --> 00:56:06,293
Speaker 2: when Sam and Frodo run into Mary and Pippin and

1159
00:56:06,413 --> 00:56:08,212
Speaker 2: started the adventure, what are they doing?

1160
00:56:09,013 --> 00:56:10,373
Speaker 3: Full of carrots Zeeland carrots?

1161
00:56:10,453 --> 00:56:11,013
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1162
00:56:11,213 --> 00:56:14,453
Speaker 2: Is this all sir Peter Jackson and Jay R. Tolkin's fault?

1163
00:56:14,533 --> 00:56:14,732
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1164
00:56:14,773 --> 00:56:16,973
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1165
00:56:17,013 --> 00:56:18,253
Speaker 3: to call love to hear from you if you're run

1166
00:56:18,293 --> 00:56:21,453
Speaker 3: an honesty box. Is it still viable or is it

1167
00:56:21,493 --> 00:56:23,253
Speaker 3: just too hard these days? And nineteen nine too? Is

1168
00:56:23,253 --> 00:56:24,692
Speaker 3: that text headlines are coming up?

1169
00:56:24,733 --> 00:56:26,453
Speaker 2: And what are those Canadians.

1170
00:56:28,213 --> 00:56:28,973
Speaker 4: Youth talk said?

1171
00:56:29,013 --> 00:56:32,813
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1184
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Speaker 15: between rival gangs.

1185
00:57:26,333 --> 00:57:27,453
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1186
00:57:27,293 --> 00:57:30,573
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1187
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Speaker 15: Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adam.

1191
00:57:44,973 --> 00:57:46,733
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. So we're talking about the

1192
00:57:46,733 --> 00:57:49,653
Speaker 3: good old, humble Kiwi honesty box. If you still run

1193
00:57:49,693 --> 00:57:51,533
Speaker 3: an honesty box, how is it going? This is on

1194
00:57:51,573 --> 00:57:54,413
Speaker 3: the back of a rant on social media that's gone

1195
00:57:54,453 --> 00:57:56,893
Speaker 3: viral about someone that used to run an honesty box

1196
00:57:56,893 --> 00:57:59,693
Speaker 3: but they've had enough. All the effort they put into

1197
00:57:59,733 --> 00:58:02,693
Speaker 3: it goes awry because of all the thefts that they

1198
00:58:02,733 --> 00:58:03,293
Speaker 3: have to deal with.

1199
00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:06,933
Speaker 2: Are honesty box still still viable in modern New Zealand?

1200
00:58:07,453 --> 00:58:09,533
Speaker 2: I also realized that he missed a great joke from

1201
00:58:09,533 --> 00:58:10,293
Speaker 2: a previous scholer.

1202
00:58:10,453 --> 00:58:13,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is disappointing about the Seals. Yeah, that was

1203
00:58:13,213 --> 00:58:16,133
Speaker 3: a fantastic joke, So apologize to that.

1204
00:58:16,653 --> 00:58:20,173
Speaker 2: And also we stirred up some unnecessary anti Canadian feeling

1205
00:58:20,253 --> 00:58:22,413
Speaker 2: because it sounds like the key we came in with

1206
00:58:22,493 --> 00:58:25,093
Speaker 2: the lud jerk first before the Canadian came back with

1207
00:58:25,173 --> 00:58:31,093
Speaker 2: the accusations of overly amorous behavior towards sheep by New Zealanders.

1208
00:58:31,173 --> 00:58:31,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

1209
00:58:31,973 --> 00:58:34,893
Speaker 2: So I would like to walk that, walk all of

1210
00:58:34,893 --> 00:58:35,693
Speaker 2: that back if we could.

1211
00:58:35,773 --> 00:58:37,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, but of a mea colpa there, Oh e one

1212
00:58:37,653 --> 00:58:40,013
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1213
00:58:40,133 --> 00:58:41,773
Speaker 3: Ninety two nine two is the text as well.

1214
00:58:41,973 --> 00:58:46,013
Speaker 21: Vern you run, Yeah, Tyler, Matt, how are you going?

1215
00:58:46,253 --> 00:58:46,773
Speaker 3: Very well?

1216
00:58:47,693 --> 00:58:50,933
Speaker 21: Thailer doesn't mean anything to you about a certain electrical

1217
00:58:51,013 --> 00:58:54,973
Speaker 21: contractor and Nelson doing work for the local public around here?

1218
00:58:55,013 --> 00:58:56,053
Speaker 21: Does that mean anything to you?

1219
00:58:56,253 --> 00:59:00,653
Speaker 3: So my old man, yeah, all right, electric company.

1220
00:59:00,333 --> 00:59:02,933
Speaker 21: From extral working. It's a good man. He does a

1221
00:59:02,973 --> 00:59:03,693
Speaker 21: perfect job.

1222
00:59:04,093 --> 00:59:04,453
Speaker 7: In mind.

1223
00:59:04,493 --> 00:59:05,373
Speaker 21: I't let him retire.

1224
00:59:06,613 --> 00:59:08,693
Speaker 3: He needs to. He's getting pretty old the days.

1225
00:59:09,013 --> 00:59:11,173
Speaker 21: Don't let him retired. That's perfect job. Old school.

1226
00:59:11,733 --> 00:59:14,133
Speaker 3: He always says, we got off topic here, But that's

1227
00:59:14,173 --> 00:59:16,693
Speaker 3: my old man, Paul Adams. He runs his own electrical

1228
00:59:16,693 --> 00:59:19,333
Speaker 3: company and Nelson and he is he's a very good

1229
00:59:19,373 --> 00:59:21,493
Speaker 3: sparky boon. You're quite right. But every year he says,

1230
00:59:21,613 --> 00:59:22,933
Speaker 3: this year, Tyler, I'm going to retire.

1231
00:59:23,053 --> 00:59:26,813
Speaker 21: Sold what of the death we need old school guys

1232
00:59:26,853 --> 00:59:27,893
Speaker 21: like him around. He's good.

1233
00:59:28,133 --> 00:59:30,373
Speaker 2: Is he still trading under the name the electric company?

1234
00:59:31,933 --> 00:59:33,933
Speaker 21: Well, I had him about three years ago. So I

1235
00:59:33,933 --> 00:59:39,613
Speaker 21: don't know the store, what the story is. Yeah, anyway,

1236
00:59:39,613 --> 00:59:44,253
Speaker 21: your honesty boxers. Yes, about twenty five years ago, we

1237
00:59:44,253 --> 00:59:46,693
Speaker 21: bought a property out you know, up from Mootree Tyler

1238
00:59:46,773 --> 00:59:48,213
Speaker 21: out new doorf Way.

1239
00:59:48,373 --> 00:59:51,533
Speaker 3: I do beautiful there, beautiful fruit, beautiful beer, beautiful wine.

1240
00:59:51,613 --> 00:59:53,533
Speaker 21: Yeah, we bought it. We bought an acre about twenty

1241
00:59:53,573 --> 00:59:56,133
Speaker 21: five years ago, just covered and fruit trees and veggies

1242
00:59:56,173 --> 00:59:58,933
Speaker 21: and that. And every year we get a glut of stuff.

1243
00:59:58,933 --> 01:00:00,053
Speaker 21: And I didn't know what to do with it. I

1244
01:00:00,053 --> 01:00:02,373
Speaker 21: gave it away the neighbors, but always too much. So

1245
01:00:02,373 --> 01:00:04,533
Speaker 21: I thought, bug at this, I'll go down to the

1246
01:00:04,613 --> 01:00:07,213
Speaker 21: Nelson recycling center. And you know, just as the back

1247
01:00:07,253 --> 01:00:13,613
Speaker 21: of Pasco Street, yep. Bought myself an old wardrobe, old cabinet,

1248
01:00:13,653 --> 01:00:17,293
Speaker 21: clothing cabinet and got a bit of blue paint. Put

1249
01:00:17,333 --> 01:00:18,973
Speaker 21: it down the end of our road, just near the

1250
01:00:19,253 --> 01:00:22,053
Speaker 21: near the winery. There, just a dead end road. And

1251
01:00:22,293 --> 01:00:25,253
Speaker 21: every weekend, if I have too much fruit or vege

1252
01:00:25,293 --> 01:00:27,653
Speaker 21: or anything, I just throw it down there. And it's

1253
01:00:27,693 --> 01:00:30,493
Speaker 21: mainly for the locals, you know. And I've never had

1254
01:00:30,533 --> 01:00:32,373
Speaker 21: any problem with anybody stealing anything.

1255
01:00:33,773 --> 01:00:37,133
Speaker 3: So what do you charge for that fruit? That you

1256
01:00:37,213 --> 01:00:38,773
Speaker 3: chuck out there already cheap.

1257
01:00:39,293 --> 01:00:42,253
Speaker 21: Real dirt, cheap, really dirt cheap, almost giveaway, you know.

1258
01:00:42,333 --> 01:00:45,413
Speaker 21: And it's just get the locals talking to each other

1259
01:00:45,493 --> 01:00:48,653
Speaker 21: so we get to know each other. We planted flowers

1260
01:00:48,653 --> 01:00:51,573
Speaker 21: around there to brighten the place up, put the sculptures

1261
01:00:51,573 --> 01:00:54,333
Speaker 21: down there, just to make it a bit nice for people.

1262
01:00:54,333 --> 01:00:57,333
Speaker 21: And I thought, oh, you know, every weekend we generally

1263
01:00:57,373 --> 01:01:00,493
Speaker 21: have a glass of fruit. Some weekends you make next

1264
01:01:00,533 --> 01:01:03,013
Speaker 21: to nothing, and there other weekends you make I don't know,

1265
01:01:03,133 --> 01:01:06,053
Speaker 21: fifty bucks or something, you know, And it's just for

1266
01:01:06,213 --> 01:01:08,573
Speaker 21: to encourage local people just to talk to each other other,

1267
01:01:09,013 --> 01:01:11,973
Speaker 21: swap a few stories. Old school in New Zealand, we're

1268
01:01:12,013 --> 01:01:12,453
Speaker 21: losing it.

1269
01:01:12,733 --> 01:01:15,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, do they still do the real fruit ice cream

1270
01:01:15,333 --> 01:01:16,293
Speaker 3: just down the road from you then?

1271
01:01:16,813 --> 01:01:19,293
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, they do the high from the other way

1272
01:01:19,333 --> 01:01:21,813
Speaker 21: home just half an hour ago. Good stuff.

1273
01:01:21,853 --> 01:01:22,773
Speaker 3: It is good stuff.

1274
01:01:23,133 --> 01:01:25,053
Speaker 21: It's still alive and well. And I think if more

1275
01:01:25,093 --> 01:01:29,013
Speaker 21: Kiwi's thought more about what they could once. That's saying

1276
01:01:29,013 --> 01:01:32,173
Speaker 21: from JFK, what you can what your country does for you,

1277
01:01:32,293 --> 01:01:34,053
Speaker 21: or you can do for your country or whatever it is,

1278
01:01:34,573 --> 01:01:36,813
Speaker 21: just do little things like you know, just get if

1279
01:01:36,813 --> 01:01:38,613
Speaker 21: you've got extra free, give it to your neighbors, or

1280
01:01:38,653 --> 01:01:42,293
Speaker 21: give it to the backpackers down the local, put up

1281
01:01:42,333 --> 01:01:45,373
Speaker 21: a store, get a little local market going. Like we've

1282
01:01:45,373 --> 01:01:47,693
Speaker 21: got out of Dovedale now. Just a few of us

1283
01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:50,493
Speaker 21: meet every sort of once a month and just it's

1284
01:01:50,493 --> 01:01:53,293
Speaker 21: got people talking to each other, you know, and you

1285
01:01:53,373 --> 01:01:55,573
Speaker 21: don't make much money, but you swap ideas, have a

1286
01:01:55,573 --> 01:01:59,093
Speaker 21: cup of coffee together, have a laugh, and it brings

1287
01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:02,613
Speaker 21: people together. And something like a stall is just it's

1288
01:02:02,613 --> 01:02:04,813
Speaker 21: something practical that I think all of us could do

1289
01:02:04,973 --> 01:02:07,333
Speaker 21: in somewhere or another. That you've got excess free to

1290
01:02:07,813 --> 01:02:10,653
Speaker 21: you know, where the trees or whatever. And okay, some

1291
01:02:10,773 --> 01:02:13,213
Speaker 21: days you're making nothing, but it's a little bit of

1292
01:02:13,213 --> 01:02:15,973
Speaker 21: an effort. But it's just something I think good that

1293
01:02:15,973 --> 01:02:18,613
Speaker 21: that is real key we and we're losing those things,

1294
01:02:18,693 --> 01:02:21,893
Speaker 21: you know. I hate to hear the people stealing stuff,

1295
01:02:21,893 --> 01:02:24,253
Speaker 21: but I have heard many stories that haven't had it

1296
01:02:24,253 --> 01:02:26,133
Speaker 21: happen to me yet. And we've been going about I

1297
01:02:26,133 --> 01:02:29,453
Speaker 21: don't know, five ten years. I suppose just every weekend

1298
01:02:29,533 --> 01:02:31,533
Speaker 21: when you've got fruit, Yeah, got on your.

1299
01:02:31,533 --> 01:02:33,653
Speaker 3: Vern community spirit. That's what it's all about. And I'll

1300
01:02:33,653 --> 01:02:34,973
Speaker 3: tell the old man, you say, get a.

1301
01:02:35,253 --> 01:02:38,533
Speaker 2: Key point in that call from Vern was Paul Adams. Yep,

1302
01:02:38,893 --> 01:02:41,053
Speaker 2: the electric company you need some We've done best. The

1303
01:02:41,133 --> 01:02:45,493
Speaker 2: electrician in the Nelson. How far will he travel anywhere?

1304
01:02:45,533 --> 01:02:45,813
Speaker 3: You want?

1305
01:02:45,973 --> 01:02:47,093
Speaker 2: Go all the way over to Marlborough.

1306
01:02:47,093 --> 01:02:49,533
Speaker 3: He quite likes Lake roadawati that he and he likes

1307
01:02:49,613 --> 01:02:51,853
Speaker 3: doing jobs over there. He just tags on a holiday

1308
01:02:51,853 --> 01:02:52,453
Speaker 3: at the same time.

1309
01:02:52,853 --> 01:02:55,093
Speaker 2: Will he get it? Go all the way over to bloom.

1310
01:02:55,133 --> 01:02:58,133
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. He loves a bit of Barbara loves so

1311
01:02:58,173 --> 01:02:59,373
Speaker 3: give him a buzz, Paul Adams.

1312
01:02:59,413 --> 01:03:02,533
Speaker 2: Never forget Ben Johnson dropping doping in the nineteen eighty

1313
01:03:02,573 --> 01:03:07,653
Speaker 2: eight Olympics one hundred meters those canacts a yeah, who

1314
01:03:07,733 --> 01:03:11,133
Speaker 2: knew there was such an underbeit of anti Canadian rhetoric.

1315
01:03:11,173 --> 01:03:13,173
Speaker 3: We've tapped into something here, yeah, yeah.

1316
01:03:13,013 --> 01:03:15,373
Speaker 2: Even though we missed their joke about the you're blown

1317
01:03:15,413 --> 01:03:22,853
Speaker 2: a seal mate.

1318
01:03:20,453 --> 01:03:24,493
Speaker 3: Great joke is the numbert call. So we are talking

1319
01:03:24,493 --> 01:03:26,333
Speaker 3: about honesty boxers. But if you want to have it

1320
01:03:26,373 --> 01:03:27,973
Speaker 3: go at Canadians as well. Ken you hear from your

1321
01:03:28,173 --> 01:03:28,853
Speaker 3: high guys.

1322
01:03:28,693 --> 01:03:31,933
Speaker 2: This is what's wrong with sociding nowadays. Whoever sent that

1323
01:03:32,053 --> 01:03:34,093
Speaker 2: text about the white hole and lady just trying to

1324
01:03:34,133 --> 01:03:36,893
Speaker 2: feed her family? Really there are plenty of places supporting

1325
01:03:36,893 --> 01:03:40,173
Speaker 2: families getting food parcels without stealing honey, So that text

1326
01:03:40,293 --> 01:03:42,413
Speaker 2: has no remorse for the stall owner, but it's a

1327
01:03:42,453 --> 01:03:46,453
Speaker 2: pity the person who broke the law and stole too

1328
01:03:46,533 --> 01:03:48,693
Speaker 2: soft with the thought process and needs to get some

1329
01:03:48,733 --> 01:03:51,133
Speaker 2: common sense and get back to basics with what's right

1330
01:03:51,173 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 2: and wrong. I support a local honey stool, and my

1331
01:03:53,573 --> 01:03:56,533
Speaker 2: morale compass would not even let me go down the

1332
01:03:56,573 --> 01:03:59,533
Speaker 2: path of not paying cheers. The amount of effort it

1333
01:03:59,573 --> 01:04:04,173
Speaker 2: takes bees to make honey, I mean I should look

1334
01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:06,413
Speaker 2: at the stats at how much work in every individual

1335
01:04:06,493 --> 01:04:08,733
Speaker 2: honey bee has to do for just the time little

1336
01:04:08,733 --> 01:04:13,133
Speaker 2: bit of you know, bee chuney, They to fill up

1337
01:04:13,293 --> 01:04:16,133
Speaker 2: a thing that this woman's just stolen. And also you

1338
01:04:16,173 --> 01:04:19,093
Speaker 2: know she's been back how many times? Four or five times?

1339
01:04:19,133 --> 01:04:20,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, repeat offender.

1340
01:04:20,453 --> 01:04:23,613
Speaker 2: So if she really needs honey to feed her family,

1341
01:04:24,213 --> 01:04:27,333
Speaker 2: then you know she's needed it for a very long time.

1342
01:04:27,413 --> 01:04:27,653
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1343
01:04:27,693 --> 01:04:28,253
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1344
01:04:28,573 --> 01:04:28,693
Speaker 15: Oh.

1345
01:04:28,733 --> 01:04:30,373
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighties and able to call

1346
01:04:30,453 --> 01:04:33,693
Speaker 3: it is twenty one two three.

1347
01:04:33,533 --> 01:04:37,173
Speaker 4: Your home of afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

1348
01:04:37,173 --> 01:04:41,373
Speaker 4: Afternoons with Skoda. Can you crack the Scoda code? News talks.

1349
01:04:41,373 --> 01:04:43,613
Speaker 3: They'd be bod afternoons. You it is eighteen to three.

1350
01:04:43,653 --> 01:04:44,933
Speaker 3: We're talking about honesty boxes.

1351
01:04:45,693 --> 01:04:50,293
Speaker 2: Text interesting. Rural cops should set up stings, hide in

1352
01:04:50,373 --> 01:04:55,453
Speaker 2: the hedge behind these honesty boxes. Some knob robs for eggs,

1353
01:04:55,493 --> 01:04:57,973
Speaker 2: honey or whatever, jump out and taste of the Canadians.

1354
01:04:58,013 --> 01:05:01,533
Speaker 3: Okay, okaying them.

1355
01:05:01,573 --> 01:05:03,293
Speaker 2: I should never have mentioned that it was a Canadian

1356
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:03,933
Speaker 2: that was involved.

1357
01:05:04,093 --> 01:05:06,653
Speaker 3: You've Yeah, this is a diplomatic incident at this point,

1358
01:05:06,693 --> 01:05:10,493
Speaker 3: you've stirred up some long buried feelings about the great

1359
01:05:10,573 --> 01:05:11,293
Speaker 3: nation of Canada.

1360
01:05:11,493 --> 01:05:15,173
Speaker 2: We've also been hoodwink by listeners twice there, so I

1361
01:05:15,253 --> 01:05:16,573
Speaker 2: read right to the end of that thinking was a

1362
01:05:16,613 --> 01:05:20,253
Speaker 2: serious tax. Raw cops should set up stings, hide in

1363
01:05:20,333 --> 01:05:23,693
Speaker 2: the hedge behind these honesty box If the knob robs

1364
01:05:23,733 --> 01:05:25,933
Speaker 2: it for eggs, honey or whatever, jump out and tases

1365
01:05:25,973 --> 01:05:26,893
Speaker 2: the Canadian for stealing it.

1366
01:05:26,973 --> 01:05:30,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, well played, dead tips. Oh one hundred

1367
01:05:30,253 --> 01:05:32,693
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the Nuther call O'Neil, how

1368
01:05:32,733 --> 01:05:32,933
Speaker 3: are you?

1369
01:05:34,013 --> 01:05:34,613
Speaker 11: Yeah, good mate?

1370
01:05:34,613 --> 01:05:36,573
Speaker 20: How are you mate?

1371
01:05:37,773 --> 01:05:37,973
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1372
01:05:38,093 --> 01:05:41,573
Speaker 20: Parents MIRCA gunners and they had a few honesty boxes

1373
01:05:41,973 --> 01:05:44,253
Speaker 20: through the years, but they gave off them. But yeah,

1374
01:05:44,293 --> 01:05:47,413
Speaker 20: there is a mentality you know that anything comes out

1375
01:05:47,453 --> 01:05:51,613
Speaker 20: of the ground just grows on itself. A fair game

1376
01:05:51,653 --> 01:05:54,293
Speaker 20: and okay to be taken couldn't be fair. And rallies

1377
01:05:54,333 --> 01:05:59,813
Speaker 20: come around, you know, you know, yeah, so well what rallies.

1378
01:05:59,533 --> 01:06:03,493
Speaker 2: Come around and they take liberties? Would that be true?

1379
01:06:03,533 --> 01:06:04,533
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1380
01:06:05,053 --> 01:06:06,933
Speaker 20: They don't sort of have a regard for it. They

1381
01:06:06,973 --> 01:06:10,213
Speaker 20: don't you know, don't mean they don't really bring anything

1382
01:06:10,293 --> 01:06:12,373
Speaker 20: or anything like that, but anything in the ground they

1383
01:06:12,533 --> 01:06:14,573
Speaker 20: just take a couple of amounts of it and have

1384
01:06:14,733 --> 01:06:18,493
Speaker 20: no regard for You're sitting mere watching your dollars walk away,

1385
01:06:18,533 --> 01:06:21,293
Speaker 20: and it's just yeah, they think, oh, a next crop

1386
01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:23,213
Speaker 20: will come, it'll keep growing and growing. But you know,

1387
01:06:23,293 --> 01:06:26,693
Speaker 20: they don't take into gown. Is it labor involved, water,

1388
01:06:27,773 --> 01:06:29,813
Speaker 20: growing and planting and all of that kind of stuff.

1389
01:06:30,173 --> 01:06:30,653
Speaker 4: It's a lot of it.

1390
01:06:30,773 --> 01:06:33,373
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's treated like it grow. Everything that comes out

1391
01:06:33,373 --> 01:06:34,613
Speaker 20: of the ground just grows like grass.

1392
01:06:35,213 --> 01:06:39,013
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean there is that mentality and a

1393
01:06:39,093 --> 01:06:41,333
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of kiwis. Unfortunately, probably city folks.

1394
01:06:41,373 --> 01:06:44,573
Speaker 3: So were your appearance doing it as a full time

1395
01:06:44,613 --> 01:06:45,973
Speaker 3: gig or is a bit of a sight hustle.

1396
01:06:46,733 --> 01:06:49,373
Speaker 20: They were full time gig Strawberries only through the years

1397
01:06:49,453 --> 01:06:51,653
Speaker 20: and then they sort of tape it down year after

1398
01:06:51,733 --> 01:06:55,933
Speaker 20: year and gone to retirement. But yeah, they grew. They

1399
01:06:56,093 --> 01:06:58,413
Speaker 20: grow a lot of other stuff as well, just you know,

1400
01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:01,133
Speaker 20: kale and properly and core and all that kind of

1401
01:07:01,333 --> 01:07:03,933
Speaker 20: just bits and pieces. But they kind of growth themselves now,

1402
01:07:04,133 --> 01:07:06,413
Speaker 20: just just enough. But that's even worse, you know, because

1403
01:07:06,413 --> 01:07:10,053
Speaker 20: the people come around and they're growing sing up for themselves.

1404
01:07:10,133 --> 01:07:12,933
Speaker 20: But you know, people come around and they'll just take

1405
01:07:12,973 --> 01:07:13,373
Speaker 20: what they want.

1406
01:07:14,613 --> 01:07:16,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, Neil, thank you very much for giving us

1407
01:07:16,413 --> 01:07:18,413
Speaker 3: a buzz. I mean, the rallies coming around to selling

1408
01:07:18,453 --> 01:07:19,533
Speaker 3: your produce, do you know?

1409
01:07:19,613 --> 01:07:22,853
Speaker 2: It's something amazing heaven to me just two days ago.

1410
01:07:23,573 --> 01:07:25,253
Speaker 2: So I've got this beautiful piece of lawn that I

1411
01:07:25,333 --> 01:07:28,373
Speaker 2: spend quite a lot of time tending. Yes, and if

1412
01:07:28,413 --> 01:07:30,613
Speaker 2: I see a dock leaf growing or anything, I'll yank

1413
01:07:30,653 --> 01:07:32,653
Speaker 2: it out. I just want to keep it completely pure

1414
01:07:32,773 --> 01:07:33,213
Speaker 2: to grass.

1415
01:07:33,333 --> 01:07:33,493
Speaker 7: Yep.

1416
01:07:33,693 --> 01:07:36,533
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm finding a losing battle here, Like

1417
01:07:37,213 --> 01:07:39,973
Speaker 2: you know, weeds grow better than the grass you want

1418
01:07:40,373 --> 01:07:44,333
Speaker 2: that runs pull out, I pull out, pull on the stalk,

1419
01:07:45,293 --> 01:07:46,853
Speaker 2: and guess what comes out of the ground with it?

1420
01:07:46,973 --> 01:07:49,093
Speaker 3: What a potato you can eat?

1421
01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:51,093
Speaker 2: So I just I managed to grow a potato.

1422
01:07:51,253 --> 01:07:52,293
Speaker 3: How the hell did that happen?

1423
01:07:52,413 --> 01:07:55,973
Speaker 2: I don't know, just somehow a potato grow in the middle.

1424
01:07:55,733 --> 01:07:56,493
Speaker 3: Of my lawn.

1425
01:07:57,213 --> 01:07:57,853
Speaker 2: That was amazed.

1426
01:07:58,213 --> 01:07:59,173
Speaker 3: Was it a good looking potato?

1427
01:07:59,573 --> 01:08:01,693
Speaker 2: No, it's terrible looking potato. But I cut it up

1428
01:08:01,733 --> 01:08:03,533
Speaker 2: and put it in the potato salad I was making.

1429
01:08:03,693 --> 01:08:04,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a nice surprise.

1430
01:08:05,133 --> 01:08:07,333
Speaker 2: So one teaspoon of honey, it's because a lot of

1431
01:08:07,373 --> 01:08:09,653
Speaker 2: people are coming in here. Yes, the bees do massive

1432
01:08:09,693 --> 01:08:12,333
Speaker 2: work to make honey. Then humans steal it off them.

1433
01:08:12,853 --> 01:08:16,013
Speaker 2: And someone else is saying that the bee has worked

1434
01:08:16,053 --> 01:08:20,852
Speaker 2: all summer for this honey and this woman in Wahola

1435
01:08:20,933 --> 01:08:24,853
Speaker 2: just steals it. One teaspoon of honey is the lifetime

1436
01:08:25,053 --> 01:08:26,372
Speaker 2: work of about twelve bees.

1437
01:08:27,013 --> 01:08:27,253
Speaker 3: Wow.

1438
01:08:27,452 --> 01:08:31,173
Speaker 2: So a single worker honeybee produces one twelfth of a

1439
01:08:31,293 --> 01:08:35,572
Speaker 2: teaspoon of honey in her entire lifetime cheap. So one

1440
01:08:35,853 --> 01:08:39,173
Speaker 2: five hundred gram jar of honey is the lifetime work

1441
01:08:39,293 --> 01:08:40,572
Speaker 2: of thousands of bees.

1442
01:08:41,933 --> 01:08:42,572
Speaker 3: She's a monster.

1443
01:08:42,732 --> 01:08:44,933
Speaker 2: A healthy hive can produce twenty to forty kg of

1444
01:08:44,973 --> 01:08:48,133
Speaker 2: surplus honey per year, but that's from tens tens of

1445
01:08:48,253 --> 01:08:53,052
Speaker 2: thousands of bees working together. So this dirty speed dealing

1446
01:08:53,973 --> 01:08:58,253
Speaker 2: wearing speed dealer wearing scumbag in why Hola not only

1447
01:08:58,372 --> 01:09:02,893
Speaker 2: is ripping off the good farmers, but the amount of

1448
01:09:03,093 --> 01:09:04,933
Speaker 2: bloody work for the honeybee.

1449
01:09:04,612 --> 01:09:07,973
Speaker 3: Thousands and thousands of honey bees working their butts off.

1450
01:09:10,293 --> 01:09:13,612
Speaker 3: Ten eighty is the number to call. We'll go to Roddy,

1451
01:09:14,173 --> 01:09:14,812
Speaker 3: get a Roddy.

1452
01:09:15,772 --> 01:09:20,932
Speaker 6: Good lads, Hey, look great subject, you know, fortunate enough

1453
01:09:21,013 --> 01:09:24,133
Speaker 6: to live out what they call them walk from Northwest,

1454
01:09:24,572 --> 01:09:29,452
Speaker 6: you know that sort of fanua pay going out towards

1455
01:09:29,772 --> 01:09:33,252
Speaker 6: you know, Riverhead and Kudu and all that lovely the surrounds,

1456
01:09:33,532 --> 01:09:35,812
Speaker 6: and it is and I always go and get my

1457
01:09:35,933 --> 01:09:38,492
Speaker 6: VIDEASIP from a place in Old North Road.

1458
01:09:40,133 --> 01:09:41,133
Speaker 9: For a long time, you know.

1459
01:09:41,253 --> 01:09:44,532
Speaker 6: But you go in and you buy it's a fantastic stuff.

1460
01:09:44,612 --> 01:09:47,052
Speaker 6: You know, it's cheap airs. But I was only thinking

1461
01:09:47,133 --> 01:09:49,133
Speaker 6: the other day I went past a tomato place that

1462
01:09:49,293 --> 01:09:52,973
Speaker 6: you know, even they were open, I think up up

1463
01:09:53,013 --> 01:09:55,572
Speaker 6: to a couple of years ago. But I thought, I'll

1464
01:09:55,572 --> 01:09:58,372
Speaker 6: stop buying get from tomatoes. And I used to get

1465
01:09:58,372 --> 01:10:00,572
Speaker 6: them way back when I was married and in the

1466
01:10:00,732 --> 01:10:02,732
Speaker 6: nineties and things like that from out there. We used

1467
01:10:02,732 --> 01:10:05,412
Speaker 6: to go out there and get tomatoes and I've closed up,

1468
01:10:05,812 --> 01:10:11,812
Speaker 6: you know, and it is so conspicuous by their absence.

1469
01:10:12,973 --> 01:10:16,253
Speaker 6: You know, growing up out west in Auckland, you know,

1470
01:10:16,372 --> 01:10:20,372
Speaker 6: you go out and sees so you know, there were

1471
01:10:20,452 --> 01:10:24,572
Speaker 6: so many honesty boxes selling fresh produce, but now there's nothing,

1472
01:10:24,772 --> 01:10:27,692
Speaker 6: you know, or if you see what it's sort of

1473
01:10:27,853 --> 01:10:32,093
Speaker 6: you think really and you know it's quite sad and

1474
01:10:32,213 --> 01:10:35,093
Speaker 6: maybe it's a reflection on humanity and just how we

1475
01:10:35,213 --> 01:10:37,933
Speaker 6: are now, you know, not all of us, but there

1476
01:10:38,013 --> 01:10:40,412
Speaker 6: must be a lot of people that are just totally

1477
01:10:41,652 --> 01:10:43,973
Speaker 6: sociopathic when it comes to that sort of thing. You know,

1478
01:10:44,173 --> 01:10:46,612
Speaker 6: they just don't give a damn. You know, they'll just

1479
01:10:47,053 --> 01:10:49,052
Speaker 6: go in there and standing that woman with the honey.

1480
01:10:49,133 --> 01:10:52,492
Speaker 6: I mean that is bad, you know, that's just bad behavior.

1481
01:10:52,692 --> 01:10:54,532
Speaker 2: And so she just says, she says it as a

1482
01:10:54,652 --> 01:10:56,692
Speaker 2: personal thing. She's been back, what was it, four or

1483
01:10:56,692 --> 01:10:58,732
Speaker 2: five times, so she just goes, oh, that's where I

1484
01:10:58,812 --> 01:10:59,492
Speaker 2: go and get my honey.

1485
01:10:59,532 --> 01:11:01,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's gone chopping at that point, she's just coming back.

1486
01:11:03,213 --> 01:11:06,572
Speaker 6: Yeah. No no guilt, no guilt or no, no no

1487
01:11:06,732 --> 01:11:10,133
Speaker 6: remorse or doesn't even not obviously think that you know,

1488
01:11:10,412 --> 01:11:15,333
Speaker 6: I'm feezing. It makes one one are other activities involved,

1489
01:11:15,412 --> 01:11:20,452
Speaker 6: you know, and it's it's a bit sad. I think

1490
01:11:20,492 --> 01:11:23,053
Speaker 6: it's an interesting subject to have on for the hour

1491
01:11:23,173 --> 01:11:25,852
Speaker 6: because it just, yeah, it's a reflection of just things

1492
01:11:25,933 --> 01:11:29,852
Speaker 6: these days. I mean, life's hard enough, but there was

1493
01:11:29,933 --> 01:11:32,772
Speaker 6: a time I mean, I'm going on seventy and you know,

1494
01:11:32,893 --> 01:11:36,013
Speaker 6: it's there was a time when you could go to

1495
01:11:36,093 --> 01:11:39,092
Speaker 6: honesty boxes and you put your coins or your notes

1496
01:11:39,133 --> 01:11:42,972
Speaker 6: and or whatever and grab the stuff. But the fact

1497
01:11:43,013 --> 01:11:46,892
Speaker 6: that there isn't now the same sort of abundancy of them.

1498
01:11:46,973 --> 01:11:50,613
Speaker 6: It's just a reflection of just how sort of impersonal

1499
01:11:50,732 --> 01:11:51,572
Speaker 6: people are becoming.

1500
01:11:52,492 --> 01:11:56,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call, Roddy. Yeah, but you

1501
01:11:56,532 --> 01:11:59,772
Speaker 2: know there is there is honesty box tech, honesty box

1502
01:11:59,853 --> 01:12:04,452
Speaker 2: tech people trying to sort out the situation around honesty

1503
01:12:04,492 --> 01:12:07,372
Speaker 2: boxes and the fact people don't have money. Yes, and

1504
01:12:07,772 --> 01:12:09,612
Speaker 2: you know, like a lot of these people complaining about

1505
01:12:09,612 --> 01:12:11,572
Speaker 2: their honesty box. Isn't just the stealing of the fruit.

1506
01:12:11,612 --> 01:12:14,972
Speaker 2: It's the stealing of all the money you've made leading

1507
01:12:15,093 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 2: up to you know, someone coming and stealing the money box.

1508
01:12:17,372 --> 01:12:19,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, or the speed change and on that. We're hoping

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01:12:19,772 --> 01:12:22,173
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Speaker 3: our discussion about honesty boxes, So a lot of the

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01:13:30,333 --> 01:13:32,973
Speaker 3: honesty boxes obviously have a problem with theft and one

1534
01:13:33,013 --> 01:13:34,893
Speaker 3: of the elements there is that people are trying to

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01:13:34,933 --> 01:13:38,652
Speaker 3: pay with money and that opens them up for you know, thieves,

1536
01:13:38,692 --> 01:13:40,892
Speaker 3: dirty lowlife to come in and take that money as

1537
01:13:40,933 --> 01:13:42,933
Speaker 3: well as the produce. A man who thought about this

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01:13:43,173 --> 01:13:46,532
Speaker 3: is David Clark. He created my Honesty Box and joins

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01:13:46,612 --> 01:13:52,972
Speaker 3: us now, David, good afternoon. Oh sorry, David. Yeah again,

1540
01:13:53,173 --> 01:13:55,213
Speaker 3: we've got you there. Thank you very much for joining us.

1541
01:13:55,333 --> 01:13:57,293
Speaker 3: So tell us about my Honesty Box. How does it work?

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01:13:59,293 --> 01:14:00,692
Speaker 9: Well, you know, it's just.

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01:14:00,772 --> 01:14:03,053
Speaker 22: An f on your phone. It allows you to scan

1544
01:14:03,133 --> 01:14:07,412
Speaker 22: a QR code and choose the items and produce that

1545
01:14:07,532 --> 01:14:11,173
Speaker 22: you want to just and then just pay through the

1546
01:14:11,213 --> 01:14:12,773
Speaker 22: app using credit.

1547
01:14:13,412 --> 01:14:15,293
Speaker 3: And it as have been pretty popular. We had a

1548
01:14:15,333 --> 01:14:17,372
Speaker 3: lot of take up with people running honesty boxes.

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01:14:19,732 --> 01:14:21,973
Speaker 22: I would say that's probably been a bit of a

1550
01:14:22,053 --> 01:14:24,612
Speaker 22: mixed bag. We've been going for about eight years now,

1551
01:14:24,933 --> 01:14:28,492
Speaker 22: and yeah, we have people who use it a lot,

1552
01:14:30,133 --> 01:14:32,972
Speaker 22: but probably part of the issue is kind of getting

1553
01:14:33,013 --> 01:14:37,572
Speaker 22: the message out there that it's available. So, you know,

1554
01:14:37,772 --> 01:14:39,492
Speaker 22: it's sort of ticking over a gyeest. You could say.

1555
01:14:39,933 --> 01:14:42,812
Speaker 22: It's a bit of a side project and we're sort

1556
01:14:42,812 --> 01:14:44,692
Speaker 22: of pretty happy with how it's going on.

1557
01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:46,812
Speaker 2: Yes, use a little bit a bit.

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01:14:46,692 --> 01:14:47,812
Speaker 4: Of a side hustle promotion.

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01:14:48,572 --> 01:14:51,732
Speaker 2: So does it mainly solve the problem that most people

1560
01:14:51,772 --> 01:14:55,852
Speaker 2: are driving around without cash like people used to have

1561
01:14:56,013 --> 01:14:59,812
Speaker 2: for honesty boxes and you can't really leave a you know,

1562
01:14:59,853 --> 01:15:01,932
Speaker 2: you're not going to leave an if POS machine out there,

1563
01:15:02,133 --> 01:15:03,013
Speaker 2: So it mainly solves that.

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01:15:03,213 --> 01:15:04,052
Speaker 3: That probably true.

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01:15:04,293 --> 01:15:06,612
Speaker 22: Yeah, Yeah, and that was I mean, that's where it

1566
01:15:06,692 --> 01:15:09,732
Speaker 22: kind of came from. Originally. We were buying produce from

1567
01:15:09,853 --> 01:15:14,013
Speaker 22: Kentucky farm in Taranaki and they did have sort of

1568
01:15:14,053 --> 01:15:18,333
Speaker 22: a process where you could you know, into through or

1569
01:15:18,372 --> 01:15:23,092
Speaker 22: pay through your your in snip banking or use cash

1570
01:15:23,253 --> 01:15:25,333
Speaker 22: and honestly, you know, it was sort of a high

1571
01:15:25,372 --> 01:15:28,812
Speaker 22: friction kind of process. So that was kind of where

1572
01:15:29,093 --> 01:15:32,492
Speaker 22: the idea came from originally. And in Kentucky really you know,

1573
01:15:32,612 --> 01:15:34,333
Speaker 22: they came to the party and they really helped us

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01:15:34,452 --> 01:15:36,452
Speaker 22: to sort of build the app.

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01:15:36,732 --> 01:15:43,572
Speaker 2: And yeah, I experienced that friction at Farmer's markets a

1576
01:15:43,612 --> 01:15:45,333
Speaker 2: lot where you go there and there the thing is,

1577
01:15:45,372 --> 01:15:47,772
Speaker 2: here's here's our bank account number, and you go through

1578
01:15:47,812 --> 01:15:49,892
Speaker 2: and you fill it all out and it's just it's

1579
01:15:49,933 --> 01:15:51,812
Speaker 2: a it's a it takes a while, a lot of

1580
01:15:51,893 --> 01:15:54,412
Speaker 2: admin and then and there's so many opportunities in that

1581
01:15:54,532 --> 01:15:55,852
Speaker 2: to just go. I can't be both the buying this

1582
01:15:56,013 --> 01:15:59,013
Speaker 2: now because I've made two mistakes. So how how do

1583
01:15:59,093 --> 01:16:01,932
Speaker 2: people set up with you? David?

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01:16:03,333 --> 01:16:06,053
Speaker 22: Well, we've got a website, so it's my honesty box

1585
01:16:06,133 --> 01:16:09,812
Speaker 22: dot co dot and zed is the website and we've

1586
01:16:09,853 --> 01:16:12,812
Speaker 22: tried to make it as easy as possible. Obviously, is

1587
01:16:12,853 --> 01:16:16,133
Speaker 22: it some steps you need to work through, which is

1588
01:16:16,173 --> 01:16:19,772
Speaker 22: setting up a payment provider which we use Stripe as

1589
01:16:19,812 --> 01:16:21,053
Speaker 22: a payment provider.

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01:16:20,772 --> 01:16:20,852
Speaker 5: So.

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01:16:22,372 --> 01:16:25,412
Speaker 22: I think sometimes that can be a bit of a hurdle.

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01:16:25,492 --> 01:16:29,772
Speaker 22: But yeah, obviously we need that process and then it's

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01:16:30,173 --> 01:16:31,372
Speaker 22: from there. It's pretty straightforward.

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01:16:31,372 --> 01:16:34,532
Speaker 3: You great after you are codin brilliant. Yeah, David, thank

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01:16:34,532 --> 01:16:36,573
Speaker 3: you very much for joining us. That is my honestybox

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01:16:36,652 --> 01:16:39,653
Speaker 3: dot co dot nz go check them out. Great discussion.

1597
01:16:39,732 --> 01:16:41,973
Speaker 3: But New Sport and Weather is fast approaching.

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Speaker 4: For insightful and entertaining talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda on

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Speaker 1: News Talk.

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01:16:50,372 --> 01:16:53,572
Speaker 3: There be very good afternoons here it is six past three.

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01:16:53,652 --> 01:16:55,772
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. I want to have a

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01:16:55,853 --> 01:16:59,852
Speaker 3: chat about screens in the bedroom. Renowned psychologist and author

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01:16:59,893 --> 01:17:02,012
Speaker 3: Jonathan Hyde. He has been a leader when it comes

1606
01:17:02,053 --> 01:17:04,932
Speaker 3: to worrying mental health trends, but in a viral video,

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01:17:05,173 --> 01:17:08,612
Speaker 3: he is again causing a heated debate when it comes

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01:17:08,652 --> 01:17:11,052
Speaker 3: to screens in the bedroom. Here's a bit of that audio.

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01:17:11,333 --> 01:17:14,812
Speaker 5: No screens of any kind in the bedroom ever. This

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01:17:14,973 --> 01:17:16,492
Speaker 5: is the rule I wish to God I had done

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01:17:16,492 --> 01:17:19,452
Speaker 5: when my kids were little. No screens of any kind

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01:17:19,612 --> 01:17:20,453
Speaker 5: in their bedrooms.

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01:17:20,893 --> 01:17:21,093
Speaker 2: Ever.

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01:17:21,293 --> 01:17:21,812
Speaker 22: You start with that.

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01:17:22,492 --> 01:17:24,053
Speaker 5: You can have a TV in the living room. They

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01:17:24,093 --> 01:17:26,452
Speaker 5: can watch TVs. Sometimes, you can have a computer in

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01:17:26,532 --> 01:17:28,652
Speaker 5: the living in a kitchen or whatever. They can go online,

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01:17:28,692 --> 01:17:32,212
Speaker 5: they can google things. But if you start with that policy,

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01:17:33,013 --> 01:17:36,973
Speaker 5: then screens are just things that they sometimes use. But

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01:17:37,053 --> 01:17:38,572
Speaker 5: as soon as you allow them in the bedroom, they

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01:17:38,652 --> 01:17:41,093
Speaker 5: become things that they have a relationship with and that

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01:17:41,532 --> 01:17:43,852
Speaker 5: they're on. Many of them will be on almost all

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01:17:43,893 --> 01:17:44,213
Speaker 5: the time.

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01:17:44,732 --> 01:17:45,492
Speaker 4: So start with that.

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01:17:47,093 --> 01:17:50,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, so would you do it? If not, why not

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01:17:50,692 --> 01:17:53,053
Speaker 2: have you done it? Have you been screens from the

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01:17:53,133 --> 01:17:56,812
Speaker 2: bedroom for your kids? Because you know, even if even

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01:17:56,893 --> 01:17:59,293
Speaker 2: like he's saying, just having a TV out in the lounge,

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01:17:59,612 --> 01:18:01,692
Speaker 2: he says, but even if your kids are allowed there

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01:18:01,893 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 2: ought to be on their phones. If they're only allowed

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01:18:04,893 --> 01:18:06,652
Speaker 2: to be on their phones out in the lounge out

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01:18:06,692 --> 01:18:08,572
Speaker 2: in the main areas, then at least just sort of

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01:18:08,652 --> 01:18:10,973
Speaker 2: having some idea of how much time they're spending on it,

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01:18:11,093 --> 01:18:13,452
Speaker 2: and potentially could look over their shoulders and see what

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01:18:13,492 --> 01:18:15,812
Speaker 2: they're looking at if you wanted to be a prying parent.

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01:18:17,133 --> 01:18:20,173
Speaker 2: But have you done that? Should you do it? I

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01:18:20,253 --> 01:18:23,852
Speaker 2: mean what's interesting is if I think about my kids

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01:18:24,293 --> 01:18:26,972
Speaker 2: and well, one of them doesn't look at home anymore,

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01:18:27,213 --> 01:18:29,612
Speaker 2: but the other one he's got so many screens in

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01:18:29,652 --> 01:18:35,452
Speaker 2: his room. He's got he's got his phone, yep, he's

1641
01:18:35,452 --> 01:18:39,612
Speaker 2: got his iPad, he's got his gaming computer, he's got

1642
01:18:39,692 --> 01:18:44,093
Speaker 2: his laptop, he's got a TV, he's got a PlayStation.

1643
01:18:44,412 --> 01:18:50,412
Speaker 2: Five guys basically running Cape canaveral in. So I've failed

1644
01:18:50,452 --> 01:18:54,173
Speaker 2: in that regard completely. And if I just and maybe

1645
01:18:54,213 --> 01:18:55,812
Speaker 2: the horse has bolted, because if I went in there

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01:18:55,812 --> 01:18:59,133
Speaker 2: now and just started pulling screens out, boy, that would

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01:18:59,173 --> 01:19:00,652
Speaker 2: be the uproar on that.

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01:19:00,812 --> 01:19:01,532
Speaker 3: To try and deal with that.

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01:19:01,853 --> 01:19:03,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, is this something?

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01:19:05,173 --> 01:19:05,372
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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01:19:05,532 --> 01:19:05,972
Speaker 3: I mean.

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01:19:07,612 --> 01:19:10,612
Speaker 2: There's one thing, and that's another thing that's happening because

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01:19:10,732 --> 01:19:14,852
Speaker 2: because the entertainment their room is so much better and

1654
01:19:16,133 --> 01:19:18,093
Speaker 2: exciting with all the stuff that they can look up

1655
01:19:18,133 --> 01:19:21,892
Speaker 2: on their phones and devices and stuff that it draws

1656
01:19:21,933 --> 01:19:23,253
Speaker 2: them away from the family as well.

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01:19:23,853 --> 01:19:24,053
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:19:24,213 --> 01:19:27,092
Speaker 2: So if the most exciting thing is watching punishing television

1659
01:19:27,133 --> 01:19:30,572
Speaker 2: in the lounge with your parents, you know there's more

1660
01:19:30,612 --> 01:19:31,452
Speaker 2: of a relationship there.

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01:19:31,572 --> 01:19:33,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, keen to hear from you. I wait one hundred

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01:19:33,333 --> 01:19:36,852
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty Should bedrooms be screen free for kids

1663
01:19:37,093 --> 01:19:39,732
Speaker 3: and for adults? Full stop? Really keen to have this

1664
01:19:39,893 --> 01:19:42,253
Speaker 3: chat with you. Nine two ninety two is the text

1665
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:43,452
Speaker 3: if you?

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01:19:43,732 --> 01:19:48,052
Speaker 2: If I said to you, Tyler, can you take could

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01:19:48,093 --> 01:19:51,812
Speaker 2: you not have any screens in your bedroom? And what

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01:19:51,893 --> 01:19:54,253
Speaker 2: would your thought be if I said to you from tonight,

1669
01:19:54,333 --> 01:19:56,052
Speaker 2: you're going to go home and there'll be no screens.

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01:19:56,532 --> 01:19:59,452
Speaker 2: I mean the kids you is a big one. I

1671
01:19:59,652 --> 01:20:01,772
Speaker 2: want to talk about that. But just you if you

1672
01:20:01,853 --> 01:20:04,932
Speaker 2: went home tonight and you said to your lovely partner,

1673
01:20:05,013 --> 01:20:09,133
Speaker 2: may no more screens in the bedroom? And is that

1674
01:20:09,732 --> 01:20:12,452
Speaker 2: a terrifying concept for you? And is it terrifying that

1675
01:20:12,492 --> 01:20:13,092
Speaker 2: it's terrifying?

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01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:15,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's terrifying that it's terrifying. But there's no

1677
01:20:15,652 --> 01:20:18,053
Speaker 3: way I could do it easily because I use my

1678
01:20:18,173 --> 01:20:20,572
Speaker 3: phone for I use it for work, when I'm in beards,

1679
01:20:20,652 --> 01:20:22,293
Speaker 3: I sort of have a look around on what's going on.

1680
01:20:22,652 --> 01:20:25,333
Speaker 3: I use it to wake up, I use it to meditate,

1681
01:20:25,652 --> 01:20:29,452
Speaker 3: I use it to watch some punishing stuff on YouTube

1682
01:20:29,532 --> 01:20:32,293
Speaker 3: and to doom scroll. But just that very idea, I mean,

1683
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:34,852
Speaker 3: I base a lot of my life around that device.

1684
01:20:35,093 --> 01:20:37,452
Speaker 3: So I mean the very thing about waking up, I'll

1685
01:20:37,452 --> 01:20:39,692
Speaker 3: be terrified that I'm not going to wake up on time.

1686
01:20:39,692 --> 01:20:41,133
Speaker 3: I'm going to be late for whatever I've got to

1687
01:20:41,173 --> 01:20:43,492
Speaker 3: do in the morning, because that's my alarm clock, right, But.

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01:20:43,532 --> 01:20:44,892
Speaker 2: It's also get a rooster.

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01:20:45,732 --> 01:20:49,772
Speaker 3: I love roots that to wake me up. But you know,

1690
01:20:51,173 --> 01:20:53,612
Speaker 3: the very fact that I'm terrified by that prospect, I

1691
01:20:53,692 --> 01:20:55,732
Speaker 3: can tell that's a problem. That is a problem because

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01:20:55,772 --> 01:20:57,572
Speaker 3: that's not how I grew up as a kid. Actually,

1693
01:20:57,572 --> 01:20:58,933
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to have a TV in the

1694
01:20:58,973 --> 01:21:01,612
Speaker 3: bedroom as a kid. Old man hated it, but I

1695
01:21:01,772 --> 01:21:02,812
Speaker 3: was one of those lucky kids.

1696
01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:05,253
Speaker 2: I think I could do it apart from my Kindle

1697
01:21:06,053 --> 01:21:08,372
Speaker 2: because I like to read books, and the care and

1698
01:21:08,732 --> 01:21:10,532
Speaker 2: allows you to read a book without having.

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01:21:10,372 --> 01:21:10,812
Speaker 4: The light on.

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01:21:11,173 --> 01:21:12,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that is.

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01:21:13,532 --> 01:21:17,092
Speaker 2: But I mean people had before cell phones, the alarm clocks.

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01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:17,412
Speaker 15: Tyler.

1703
01:21:18,013 --> 01:21:19,732
Speaker 2: You can get a wind up alarm clock if you

1704
01:21:19,772 --> 01:21:21,612
Speaker 2: want to go fully analog in the bedroom, I.

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01:21:21,612 --> 01:21:24,052
Speaker 3: Could definitely do that. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:21:24,333 --> 01:21:27,092
Speaker 3: So should bedrooms be screened free for kids and adults?

1707
01:21:27,133 --> 01:21:28,772
Speaker 3: Full stop? Have you tried to do it?

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01:21:29,053 --> 01:21:29,253
Speaker 14: Really?

1709
01:21:29,333 --> 01:21:30,293
Speaker 3: Keen to have a chat with.

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01:21:30,333 --> 01:21:33,612
Speaker 2: You, Mussis. Isn't this just common sense good parenting? And

1711
01:21:33,772 --> 01:21:35,893
Speaker 2: this is no one is allowing their kids to have

1712
01:21:36,013 --> 01:21:39,173
Speaker 2: screens in their bedroom. What kind of terrible parents are you?

1713
01:21:40,013 --> 01:21:42,213
Speaker 2: If you think no one is allowing their kids to

1714
01:21:42,253 --> 01:21:47,372
Speaker 2: have screens in their bedroom? Text, then you don't. I mean,

1715
01:21:47,532 --> 01:21:50,572
Speaker 2: you said a text from the Armish community. It must

1716
01:21:50,652 --> 01:21:53,772
Speaker 2: be I think nearly everyone is allowing their kids to

1717
01:21:53,853 --> 01:21:56,213
Speaker 2: have screens in their bedroom. Hecky, And even if you're

1718
01:21:56,253 --> 01:21:58,812
Speaker 2: not allowing it, they may well just be doing it anyway.

1719
01:22:00,053 --> 01:22:02,692
Speaker 2: But like you know, teenagers heading off into their room

1720
01:22:02,732 --> 01:22:04,852
Speaker 2: by themselves and listen to music and stuff is not

1721
01:22:05,333 --> 01:22:09,813
Speaker 2: and as it's not a new thing obviously, but just scrolling,

1722
01:22:10,213 --> 01:22:15,812
Speaker 2: doom scrolling, staying up till two am or whatever. I

1723
01:22:15,812 --> 01:22:17,812
Speaker 2: remember I used to go into bed and with the

1724
01:22:17,893 --> 01:22:20,692
Speaker 2: torch and I'd have to be asleep and have the

1725
01:22:20,732 --> 01:22:23,692
Speaker 2: torch under the covers to read books. I'd have like

1726
01:22:23,812 --> 01:22:26,612
Speaker 2: my little stereo. My parents would come and say, turn

1727
01:22:26,652 --> 01:22:28,692
Speaker 2: that off. I have that under the covers. But that's

1728
01:22:28,692 --> 01:22:29,253
Speaker 2: a bit different.

1729
01:22:29,412 --> 01:22:31,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean back when we said the very first

1730
01:22:31,532 --> 01:22:33,572
Speaker 3: console we got was a PlayStation, and you can remember

1731
01:22:33,612 --> 01:22:35,812
Speaker 3: the opening screen for the original PlayStation. It was a

1732
01:22:35,893 --> 01:22:38,333
Speaker 3: gold awful loud noise. But I'd wake up at about

1733
01:22:38,333 --> 01:22:40,333
Speaker 3: one o'clock in the morning because I love my PlayStation,

1734
01:22:40,492 --> 01:22:42,692
Speaker 3: chuck it on and that sound would echo through the

1735
01:22:42,772 --> 01:22:44,612
Speaker 3: house and Dad would come storming down and say, get

1736
01:22:44,612 --> 01:22:46,812
Speaker 3: off that bloody thing. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten

1737
01:22:46,893 --> 01:22:49,093
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call? Nine two ninety two

1738
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:52,732
Speaker 3: is the text beg very shortly? It is twelve past three.

1739
01:22:53,133 --> 01:22:55,572
Speaker 3: Used talks'd be it is a quarter past three. So

1740
01:22:55,652 --> 01:22:58,133
Speaker 3: we're talking about screens in the bedroom. Renowned psychologist and

1741
01:22:58,173 --> 01:23:01,772
Speaker 3: author Jonathan Hyde has come out quite strongly and it's

1742
01:23:01,812 --> 01:23:04,772
Speaker 3: gone viral online saying that there should be no phones

1743
01:23:04,853 --> 01:23:07,333
Speaker 3: or TVs in the bedroom, particularly when it comes to

1744
01:23:07,372 --> 01:23:09,093
Speaker 3: the kids, but for adults as well. So can you

1745
01:23:09,173 --> 01:23:12,013
Speaker 3: hear from you? Should bedrooms be screened free for kids

1746
01:23:12,053 --> 01:23:13,772
Speaker 3: and adults? Full stop? Are you trying to remove the

1747
01:23:13,812 --> 01:23:15,732
Speaker 3: screens from the bedroom? Oh eight one hundred and eighty

1748
01:23:15,893 --> 01:23:18,133
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call, and nine to

1749
01:23:18,412 --> 01:23:21,572
Speaker 3: nine two is the text number. Greg.

1750
01:23:21,893 --> 01:23:23,932
Speaker 10: How are you guys?

1751
01:23:23,973 --> 01:23:25,452
Speaker 2: I hope you are today very well.

1752
01:23:26,812 --> 01:23:31,572
Speaker 11: We did some renovations on our villa and I cut

1753
01:23:31,732 --> 01:23:34,892
Speaker 11: down two rooms into three, and because the bedrooms ended

1754
01:23:34,933 --> 01:23:38,333
Speaker 11: up being quite small, I decided to make Mizzanine frauls

1755
01:23:38,652 --> 01:23:41,572
Speaker 11: using the height of the villa for the boys. And

1756
01:23:41,973 --> 01:23:44,732
Speaker 11: unfortunately it's basically cut them off from our family because

1757
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:46,532
Speaker 11: not only have they got all these screens up there,

1758
01:23:46,572 --> 01:23:50,173
Speaker 11: but they've also got another layer of separation. We're having

1759
01:23:50,213 --> 01:23:52,213
Speaker 11: to climb up through the floor to sort of go

1760
01:23:52,372 --> 01:23:55,012
Speaker 11: and say hello to them, you know, And I wish

1761
01:23:55,013 --> 01:23:55,652
Speaker 11: I've ever done it.

1762
01:23:56,053 --> 01:23:58,412
Speaker 3: Ye, yeah, right, So that's kind of like there we

1763
01:23:58,652 --> 01:24:01,932
Speaker 3: there we man cave if you like, which is pretty

1764
01:24:02,213 --> 01:24:04,293
Speaker 3: loaded up with all manner of screens.

1765
01:24:05,053 --> 01:24:05,532
Speaker 9: Hey love it.

1766
01:24:06,173 --> 01:24:08,812
Speaker 11: I've got two of eachs, I've got a game year each.

1767
01:24:08,973 --> 01:24:12,213
Speaker 11: They've got to say the phone, and they just live

1768
01:24:12,293 --> 01:24:14,492
Speaker 11: up there. They they only come down to eight sometimes

1769
01:24:14,532 --> 01:24:18,333
Speaker 11: and we're actually gonna were starts of my oldest son's left,

1770
01:24:18,412 --> 01:24:21,173
Speaker 11: but my younger ones. It's a real real problem. He's

1771
01:24:21,213 --> 01:24:24,173
Speaker 11: more addictive to screens than my oldest son ever was.

1772
01:24:24,293 --> 01:24:27,293
Speaker 11: So we're really having to try and get him down

1773
01:24:27,372 --> 01:24:30,333
Speaker 11: from their name ka every so often and connect with

1774
01:24:30,492 --> 01:24:32,932
Speaker 11: us again, you know. So yeah, it takes for the end,

1775
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:36,452
Speaker 11: but not so good for us. If you can stands

1776
01:24:36,452 --> 01:24:38,973
Speaker 11: away from the bedroom. I agree with that. It's a

1777
01:24:39,093 --> 01:24:40,532
Speaker 11: computer at the dining room, you know.

1778
01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:43,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's just better to have the family

1779
01:24:43,372 --> 01:24:47,333
Speaker 2: together and around each other, even if they are on screens.

1780
01:24:47,692 --> 01:24:50,692
Speaker 2: Even just being in the proximity I think is important.

1781
01:24:50,772 --> 01:24:56,213
Speaker 2: But you know, like like Greg, you're like me, you've

1782
01:24:56,253 --> 01:24:58,692
Speaker 2: already done it. So it's so hard to take it

1783
01:24:58,853 --> 01:25:01,692
Speaker 2: off them because that's going to that's a huge thing

1784
01:25:01,772 --> 01:25:03,893
Speaker 2: that they'll feel set upon if you go in and

1785
01:25:04,013 --> 01:25:05,532
Speaker 2: just clean out their screens.

1786
01:25:06,333 --> 01:25:09,852
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're starting with time, so when we're limiting the

1787
01:25:09,893 --> 01:25:12,932
Speaker 11: time he can spend up there, you know, we're we're

1788
01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:15,452
Speaker 11: sort of trying to work go away in like that. Yeah,

1789
01:25:15,492 --> 01:25:18,012
Speaker 11: if he's we we have just a basic work computer

1790
01:25:18,133 --> 01:25:19,452
Speaker 11: in the dining room, and if he's on there, we

1791
01:25:19,492 --> 01:25:21,412
Speaker 11: can talk from about what he's doing on the computer

1792
01:25:21,492 --> 01:25:24,812
Speaker 11: as well, you know, that little connection. But yeah, we

1793
01:25:24,893 --> 01:25:26,932
Speaker 11: can't even just open the door for a spot spot

1794
01:25:26,973 --> 01:25:29,492
Speaker 11: in fiction in the bedroom because you still can't see

1795
01:25:29,492 --> 01:25:31,492
Speaker 11: where it is. You're still going to climb up into

1796
01:25:31,532 --> 01:25:31,852
Speaker 11: the room.

1797
01:25:32,013 --> 01:25:36,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got to say levels, Mazzoline levels are

1798
01:25:36,372 --> 01:25:38,372
Speaker 2: very cool though, So you got that right.

1799
01:25:38,452 --> 01:25:41,812
Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, that's got looks down onto the window, you know,

1800
01:25:41,853 --> 01:25:43,772
Speaker 11: in the bedroom, and it's not just a hole in

1801
01:25:43,853 --> 01:25:48,213
Speaker 11: the roof. Their friends are always around.

1802
01:25:47,933 --> 01:25:48,412
Speaker 16: And they love it.

1803
01:25:48,532 --> 01:25:51,333
Speaker 2: But yeah, not so much for us. Yeah, it's funny

1804
01:25:51,372 --> 01:25:53,173
Speaker 2: the decisions you make in a house. I've got a

1805
01:25:53,253 --> 01:25:55,972
Speaker 2: mate who spent a lot of money making the perfect

1806
01:25:56,093 --> 01:25:59,652
Speaker 2: rooms for his kids there downstairs. They had rooms, they

1807
01:25:59,692 --> 01:26:02,053
Speaker 2: had a rumper's room to play in, they have their

1808
01:26:02,093 --> 01:26:04,492
Speaker 2: own bathrooms. And then one day sitting upstairs, going I

1809
01:26:04,652 --> 01:26:07,173
Speaker 2: just separated myself from my kids.

1810
01:26:07,173 --> 01:26:09,053
Speaker 3: I missed my kids. That's my kids.

1811
01:26:09,333 --> 01:26:11,372
Speaker 2: They're in their own flat downstairs. We're better to give

1812
01:26:11,412 --> 01:26:13,213
Speaker 2: them a rubbish room so I can actually see them,

1813
01:26:13,253 --> 01:26:13,412
Speaker 2: you know.

1814
01:26:13,532 --> 01:26:13,732
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1815
01:26:14,652 --> 01:26:16,732
Speaker 11: I actually see my oldest son more now that he's

1816
01:26:16,772 --> 01:26:17,213
Speaker 11: moved out.

1817
01:26:19,812 --> 01:26:21,772
Speaker 3: Yeah that says a lot. Greg. Hey, thank you very

1818
01:26:21,853 --> 01:26:23,692
Speaker 3: much for your call. Really appreciate it. Oh one hundred

1819
01:26:23,772 --> 01:26:27,573
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty, You like Greg, are your kids surrounded

1820
01:26:27,612 --> 01:26:29,333
Speaker 3: by screens in their bedroom? And maybe it was a

1821
01:26:29,372 --> 01:26:31,492
Speaker 3: bit of a mistake. Nineteen nine ties that text as well.

1822
01:26:32,133 --> 01:26:38,533
Speaker 2: The text it says most kids do their homework on laptops.

1823
01:26:38,572 --> 01:26:40,452
Speaker 2: Now it's naive to think that they do them on

1824
01:26:40,452 --> 01:26:43,372
Speaker 2: the kitchen table. Why why would it be naive to

1825
01:26:43,572 --> 01:26:45,572
Speaker 2: do your homework on the kitchen table. Wouldn't they be

1826
01:26:45,692 --> 01:26:46,333
Speaker 2: kind of a good thing?

1827
01:26:46,532 --> 01:26:49,213
Speaker 3: Yeah? What happened to computer rooms? That's what we had

1828
01:26:49,253 --> 01:26:50,892
Speaker 3: when I was a kid. We just had the computer

1829
01:26:51,013 --> 01:26:54,812
Speaker 3: in the study that everybody used, and it seemed to work. Recently, Well,

1830
01:26:54,973 --> 01:26:55,812
Speaker 3: I reckon, I reckon.

1831
01:26:55,853 --> 01:26:58,293
Speaker 2: I'd love it if my kids came into their homework

1832
01:26:58,372 --> 01:27:01,093
Speaker 2: on the kitchen table when they don't never have, Yeah,

1833
01:27:01,213 --> 01:27:02,612
Speaker 2: and wouldn't, but I would love it.

1834
01:27:02,973 --> 01:27:04,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you say? Oh one hundred and eighty

1835
01:27:05,013 --> 01:27:07,052
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? It is nineteen

1836
01:27:07,732 --> 01:27:08,333
Speaker 3: past three.

1837
01:27:12,173 --> 01:27:15,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty

1838
01:27:15,933 --> 01:27:17,773
Speaker 1: ten eighty on us talk ZB.

1839
01:27:17,732 --> 01:27:20,612
Speaker 3: Twenty two pass three. Should bedrooms be screened free for

1840
01:27:20,732 --> 01:27:23,652
Speaker 3: kids and adults? Full stop? If you tried to remove

1841
01:27:23,732 --> 01:27:26,013
Speaker 3: screens from your bedroom or your kids bedroom, love to

1842
01:27:26,013 --> 01:27:28,333
Speaker 3: hear from you, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1843
01:27:28,412 --> 01:27:30,093
Speaker 3: that number to call? If you want to send a text,

1844
01:27:30,213 --> 01:27:33,612
Speaker 3: that number is nine to nine two. Plenty of texts

1845
01:27:33,652 --> 01:27:35,852
Speaker 3: coming through this one from kath yetto Met and Tyler.

1846
01:27:35,933 --> 01:27:38,572
Speaker 3: My kids are now twenty two through to thirty, but

1847
01:27:38,652 --> 01:27:41,293
Speaker 3: when they were at college, our rule was all phones, computers,

1848
01:27:41,333 --> 01:27:43,972
Speaker 3: et cetera, in a charging basket overnight in the family room.

1849
01:27:44,013 --> 01:27:46,053
Speaker 3: My husband and I still have no screens in our

1850
01:27:46,093 --> 01:27:48,452
Speaker 3: bedroom except for the weeks he is on call and

1851
01:27:48,532 --> 01:27:50,612
Speaker 3: needs to be available. We only have one TV in

1852
01:27:50,692 --> 01:27:53,213
Speaker 3: the family room. Our younger kids are more connected to

1853
01:27:53,253 --> 01:27:59,013
Speaker 3: their screens than the older ones. Interesting, Daniel, how are

1854
01:27:59,053 --> 01:27:59,692
Speaker 3: you this afternoon?

1855
01:28:00,933 --> 01:28:01,133
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1856
01:28:01,173 --> 01:28:01,652
Speaker 9: Good, thank you.

1857
01:28:02,853 --> 01:28:03,013
Speaker 3: Ken.

1858
01:28:03,093 --> 01:28:03,732
Speaker 7: Hear what you do?

1859
01:28:04,053 --> 01:28:04,893
Speaker 3: Yeah you go for it?

1860
01:28:05,333 --> 01:28:08,812
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah yeah. So my wife and I we've got

1861
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:11,213
Speaker 9: a we've got a three and a half year old

1862
01:28:11,293 --> 01:28:14,132
Speaker 9: and a one year old. But we're also high school teachers,

1863
01:28:14,532 --> 01:28:17,133
Speaker 9: so we kind of see day in day out in

1864
01:28:17,173 --> 01:28:19,133
Speaker 9: the effect that screens have sort of had on kids

1865
01:28:19,173 --> 01:28:21,893
Speaker 9: coming through, and we basically live in perpetual fear that

1866
01:28:22,293 --> 01:28:24,412
Speaker 9: our kids are going to end up the worst case scenario.

1867
01:28:24,973 --> 01:28:27,372
Speaker 9: So we've gone about as conservative as you can get

1868
01:28:27,412 --> 01:28:30,052
Speaker 9: with screens. We don't own a TV. In our house.

1869
01:28:30,532 --> 01:28:32,652
Speaker 9: Excuse me, don't own a TV in our house. We

1870
01:28:32,732 --> 01:28:34,812
Speaker 9: don't have our phones in our bedroom at night, we

1871
01:28:34,853 --> 01:28:37,652
Speaker 9: don't really let our kids touch screens at all. This

1872
01:28:37,933 --> 01:28:39,852
Speaker 9: sort of concept of screen time doesn't really exist in

1873
01:28:39,933 --> 01:28:43,412
Speaker 9: the house. And I don't know, maybe it's the Maybe

1874
01:28:43,452 --> 01:28:45,253
Speaker 9: it's not the best part for to just go by

1875
01:28:45,692 --> 01:28:48,452
Speaker 9: complete fear that they're going to end up screenmongers one day.

1876
01:28:48,532 --> 01:28:50,492
Speaker 9: But that's kind of how we've gone. And we're pretty

1877
01:28:50,492 --> 01:28:52,772
Speaker 9: happy that we don't have to fight any screen time

1878
01:28:52,812 --> 01:28:54,492
Speaker 9: battles with our three and a half four year old

1879
01:28:54,532 --> 01:28:56,612
Speaker 9: or anything like that. And I think we're just going

1880
01:28:56,692 --> 01:28:58,412
Speaker 9: to stay as conservative as we can be.

1881
01:28:58,973 --> 01:29:01,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and so at that age, I mean that's

1882
01:29:01,412 --> 01:29:03,973
Speaker 3: a sound strategy to start early. Was it hard for

1883
01:29:04,173 --> 01:29:07,452
Speaker 3: you and your partner or wife to ditch the screens

1884
01:29:07,492 --> 01:29:07,772
Speaker 3: as well?

1885
01:29:09,053 --> 01:29:11,293
Speaker 9: No, I think it was pretty pretty early after we

1886
01:29:11,372 --> 01:29:14,173
Speaker 9: got married. We just decided that the screens are going

1887
01:29:14,213 --> 01:29:17,812
Speaker 9: to stay downstairs, they're going to charge downstairs, and I

1888
01:29:17,933 --> 01:29:19,652
Speaker 9: just can't really remember a time where they've been in

1889
01:29:19,732 --> 01:29:22,572
Speaker 9: our bedroom. It just became the norm and now it's

1890
01:29:22,652 --> 01:29:24,973
Speaker 9: just books in our bedroom and that's about it. That's

1891
01:29:25,053 --> 01:29:26,772
Speaker 9: kind of how we finished the night laying there reading

1892
01:29:26,893 --> 01:29:30,253
Speaker 9: or talking, and we've got watches for alarms, so that

1893
01:29:30,372 --> 01:29:31,812
Speaker 9: kind of that kind of does it for us.

1894
01:29:32,933 --> 01:29:35,253
Speaker 3: I mean, the more I think about this, I think

1895
01:29:35,772 --> 01:29:39,973
Speaker 3: having as little screens as possible in the in the

1896
01:29:40,093 --> 01:29:42,013
Speaker 3: lounge when you get home. You know, this is just

1897
01:29:42,093 --> 01:29:44,812
Speaker 3: my thinking. I think it's more beneficial that when I

1898
01:29:44,893 --> 01:29:47,412
Speaker 3: get home, I actually put my phone down for the

1899
01:29:47,492 --> 01:29:50,213
Speaker 3: remainder of the night so I can connect with my partner,

1900
01:29:50,253 --> 01:29:52,812
Speaker 3: mayve and do all those other things then in the bedroom,

1901
01:29:52,853 --> 01:29:55,093
Speaker 3: though I still see that it's almost like my own

1902
01:29:55,133 --> 01:29:57,412
Speaker 3: time limit that the bedroom then I can just grab

1903
01:29:57,492 --> 01:30:00,053
Speaker 3: my phone, have we look, check out the day's news,

1904
01:30:00,133 --> 01:30:01,492
Speaker 3: and do what I need to do before I go

1905
01:30:01,612 --> 01:30:01,972
Speaker 3: to sleep.

1906
01:30:03,133 --> 01:30:08,612
Speaker 2: Check out the names newsom scrubb Instagram re You've get

1907
01:30:08,652 --> 01:30:10,932
Speaker 2: some funny thirty second videos for an hour. But isn't

1908
01:30:10,933 --> 01:30:13,092
Speaker 2: that a good time to spend with your partner.

1909
01:30:13,452 --> 01:30:15,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, if she's not asleep before I get to bed.

1910
01:30:15,572 --> 01:30:19,012
Speaker 2: Daniel, you said you were you and your partner are teachers?

1911
01:30:19,772 --> 01:30:20,173
Speaker 10: Is that right?

1912
01:30:20,412 --> 01:30:20,612
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1913
01:30:22,973 --> 01:30:27,253
Speaker 2: Secondary school? Do you notice speakers? Do you notice kids

1914
01:30:27,372 --> 01:30:30,133
Speaker 2: just being tired? And then ever, because that would be yeah,

1915
01:30:30,293 --> 01:30:34,533
Speaker 2: quite apart from the damaging aspect of being on devices

1916
01:30:34,572 --> 01:30:36,972
Speaker 2: in your room, you can just stay up all late,

1917
01:30:37,612 --> 01:30:40,093
Speaker 2: so late, and they're so stimulating that it's hard to

1918
01:30:40,133 --> 01:30:41,692
Speaker 2: go to sleep with all the excitement you get on

1919
01:30:41,772 --> 01:30:45,213
Speaker 2: a screen. So are you noticing that just shagged kids

1920
01:30:45,253 --> 01:30:45,652
Speaker 2: at school?

1921
01:30:46,612 --> 01:30:48,612
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent the boys who we see come

1922
01:30:48,692 --> 01:30:51,452
Speaker 9: in that. There's always a pattern of like, yeah, kids

1923
01:30:51,492 --> 01:30:54,213
Speaker 9: showing up really tired because they've been up gaming or

1924
01:30:54,253 --> 01:30:55,933
Speaker 9: their phones are keeping them up, and they're often not

1925
01:30:56,053 --> 01:30:59,172
Speaker 9: eating very well either, you know, to try and sustain

1926
01:30:59,532 --> 01:31:01,612
Speaker 9: the energy that they're expinning when they're up so late

1927
01:31:01,973 --> 01:31:05,172
Speaker 9: and they're not recouping the energy because they're sleep not sleeping.

1928
01:31:05,293 --> 01:31:09,612
Speaker 9: So yeah, an issue kids being really tired. And the

1929
01:31:09,732 --> 01:31:11,572
Speaker 9: other thing we see at school is there's just so

1930
01:31:11,732 --> 01:31:14,532
Speaker 9: much going like, you know, the online world is just

1931
01:31:14,572 --> 01:31:18,293
Speaker 9: a complete other world, which you know, we see, we

1932
01:31:18,452 --> 01:31:20,213
Speaker 9: get a little look into it every now and then

1933
01:31:20,293 --> 01:31:23,293
Speaker 9: when when issues pop up amongst our student body. But

1934
01:31:23,372 --> 01:31:25,412
Speaker 9: there is just so much going on in that world

1935
01:31:25,853 --> 01:31:28,132
Speaker 9: that we don't know about, and parents don't know about,

1936
01:31:28,213 --> 01:31:30,692
Speaker 9: and we'll call home about issues and they've got no

1937
01:31:30,812 --> 01:31:33,293
Speaker 9: idea what's going on in that world. So it's it's

1938
01:31:33,333 --> 01:31:35,772
Speaker 9: pretty concerning and so we're just trying to stay as

1939
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Speaker 9: far away for as long as possible from any of that.

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Speaker 9: The amount of the amount of things that we've seen

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Speaker 9: at the moment of you know, kids might stay in

1942
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Speaker 9: their bedroom gaming, but the amount of gambling that's coming

1943
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Speaker 9: into just basic gaming at the moment, that that is happening,

1944
01:31:50,253 --> 01:31:53,213
Speaker 9: that kids are doing at late at night in their bedrooms,

1945
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Speaker 9: and that parents really don't have no idea about. I'm

1946
01:31:56,412 --> 01:31:58,452
Speaker 9: not sure how they get the money or where they're happening,

1947
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Speaker 9: but that's one of the things we're approaching with our

1948
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Speaker 9: juniors and the health force at the moment is you know,

1949
01:32:03,093 --> 01:32:05,732
Speaker 9: online gambling and the gaming that is massive.

1950
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Speaker 2: Now you say that it's a whole world that that's

1951
01:32:08,853 --> 01:32:11,412
Speaker 2: operating online, and it's and it's a world that we

1952
01:32:11,532 --> 01:32:14,572
Speaker 2: may not even understand. But if you take if kids

1953
01:32:14,812 --> 01:32:17,932
Speaker 2: don't enter that world, then don't they risk the light.

1954
01:32:18,612 --> 01:32:22,412
Speaker 2: Don't they run the risk of being ostracized from friend

1955
01:32:22,492 --> 01:32:24,732
Speaker 2: groups because they just don't understand and the same we

1956
01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:27,053
Speaker 2: don't way we don't understand what the kids are up to,

1957
01:32:27,692 --> 01:32:29,933
Speaker 2: they won't understand what their peer group is up to.

1958
01:32:31,253 --> 01:32:33,973
Speaker 9: Yeah, like it's a fair criticism and you've got to

1959
01:32:34,053 --> 01:32:35,812
Speaker 9: you've got to try and weigh out what you really

1960
01:32:35,853 --> 01:32:37,973
Speaker 9: want for your kid. I mean, like, you know, we

1961
01:32:38,133 --> 01:32:39,933
Speaker 9: know some parents who are just know cell phones, no

1962
01:32:40,013 --> 01:32:42,492
Speaker 9: social media. But then you've got football teams that junior

1963
01:32:42,532 --> 01:32:46,732
Speaker 9: football teams that run their orization through through Facebook Messenger,

1964
01:32:46,772 --> 01:32:49,892
Speaker 9: you know, so it becomes really tricky. But I haven't

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Speaker 9: seen a I haven't seen a lot of examples where

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01:32:52,253 --> 01:32:55,492
Speaker 9: the negative sort of outweighs the positive of staying away

1967
01:32:55,532 --> 01:32:58,732
Speaker 9: from social media and staying away from screens. There's a

1968
01:32:58,812 --> 01:33:01,612
Speaker 9: there's a lot that's that's so hidden from from us

1969
01:33:01,732 --> 01:33:05,253
Speaker 9: that yeah, that we see day to day in school,

1970
01:33:06,652 --> 01:33:08,293
Speaker 9: you know, we'll get a glimpse into it every now,

1971
01:33:08,692 --> 01:33:11,173
Speaker 9: but yeah, it's it's crazy, and the kids don't seem

1972
01:33:11,213 --> 01:33:14,173
Speaker 9: to understand that it's real life as well. They sort

1973
01:33:14,213 --> 01:33:16,372
Speaker 9: of think we're in we're in this other world and

1974
01:33:16,492 --> 01:33:19,372
Speaker 9: what we do doesn't really have real consequences. And then

1975
01:33:19,412 --> 01:33:21,013
Speaker 9: every now and then it comes back to bite them

1976
01:33:21,452 --> 01:33:23,852
Speaker 9: and they start to realize that, well.

1977
01:33:23,772 --> 01:33:26,532
Speaker 2: That's the evil genius of big, big tech and these

1978
01:33:26,612 --> 01:33:29,692
Speaker 2: devices is that, as you say, suddenly you need to

1979
01:33:29,772 --> 01:33:34,012
Speaker 2: have Facebook because that has the messages or WhatsApp or whatever,

1980
01:33:34,133 --> 01:33:35,732
Speaker 2: so you know what time your game's on.

1981
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Speaker 10: So there's a.

1982
01:33:36,732 --> 01:33:39,772
Speaker 2: Wholesome thing that then comes into the phone. So then

1983
01:33:39,812 --> 01:33:43,253
Speaker 2: the phones needed every single way, like Tyler saying, oh,

1984
01:33:43,412 --> 01:33:45,572
Speaker 2: I can't not have my phone in my room because

1985
01:33:45,612 --> 01:33:48,532
Speaker 2: it's my alarm clock. There's just a thousand different ways

1986
01:33:48,612 --> 01:33:52,612
Speaker 2: that the phone demands you have it, which keeps you on.

1987
01:33:52,973 --> 01:33:54,772
Speaker 2: And then what do you end up doing. You're not

1988
01:33:55,013 --> 01:33:57,932
Speaker 2: doing it. You're spending about one hundredth of the time

1989
01:33:58,093 --> 01:33:59,932
Speaker 2: or one thousandths of the time finding out when you've

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01:33:59,973 --> 01:34:02,972
Speaker 2: got games on, and the rest of the time doom scrolling.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, ye undred Yeah, So we're we're and our kind

1992
01:34:08,492 --> 01:34:11,652
Speaker 9: thing is you know, one day, if we realize that

1993
01:34:11,812 --> 01:34:14,412
Speaker 9: we need our kids to have screens more, it's going

1994
01:34:14,492 --> 01:34:16,572
Speaker 9: to be a heck of a lot here to introduce

1995
01:34:16,612 --> 01:34:19,173
Speaker 9: screens than to try to pull them away from from

1996
01:34:19,253 --> 01:34:21,133
Speaker 9: too much screen. I think that's going to be a

1997
01:34:21,173 --> 01:34:23,932
Speaker 9: bigger battle, the fight. So I guess we're just constantly

1998
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Speaker 9: assessing it and maybe the day will come where it

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01:34:27,133 --> 01:34:29,173
Speaker 9: becomes a bit more normal. But at the moment, yeah,

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01:34:29,213 --> 01:34:31,973
Speaker 9: it's no TV, no screams or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you. Daniell how's the cell phone being

2002
01:34:34,973 --> 01:34:36,213
Speaker 3: going in school? Is that working?

2003
01:34:37,612 --> 01:34:40,293
Speaker 9: It's working brilliantly in our school. I think we we

2004
01:34:40,692 --> 01:34:43,253
Speaker 9: we kicked into it a year before the government did,

2005
01:34:43,612 --> 01:34:45,732
Speaker 9: so we sort of front footed it and we found

2006
01:34:45,812 --> 01:34:48,213
Speaker 9: I'm in a boys' school, and you know, they hated

2007
01:34:48,253 --> 01:34:50,133
Speaker 9: the idea of it, but you know, the year that

2008
01:34:50,253 --> 01:34:52,852
Speaker 9: it started, they actually stepped up pretty well and I

2009
01:34:52,933 --> 01:34:55,692
Speaker 9: think they just got on with it. And you know,

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01:34:55,772 --> 01:34:57,933
Speaker 9: we've got a pretty good system for making sure that

2011
01:34:58,452 --> 01:35:00,973
Speaker 9: that it's happening, it's accountable, and just some positives in

2012
01:35:01,053 --> 01:35:02,212
Speaker 9: our schools have been able.

2013
01:35:02,053 --> 01:35:02,372
Speaker 7: To do that.

2014
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Speaker 9: But you know, personally, I think it's one of the

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01:35:04,973 --> 01:35:06,933
Speaker 9: best things that we've we've had for our classrooms.

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Speaker 2: You know, we always talk about our kids being angry

2017
01:35:08,853 --> 01:35:10,612
Speaker 2: at us for doing it, but there's a potential that

2018
01:35:10,652 --> 01:35:12,732
Speaker 2: your kids will come back when they're twenty three, twenty

2019
01:35:12,772 --> 01:35:16,213
Speaker 2: four and go, why did you allow me to be

2020
01:35:16,372 --> 01:35:19,253
Speaker 2: on these devices? It's true because we have no idea

2021
01:35:19,293 --> 01:35:21,492
Speaker 2: what's going I'm going to go, well, my brain's marsh.

2022
01:35:21,572 --> 01:35:22,973
Speaker 2: These kids that are on the devices at the time,

2023
01:35:23,452 --> 01:35:25,612
Speaker 2: how did you let me do it? You know, they're like,

2024
01:35:25,692 --> 01:35:27,213
Speaker 2: it's no different than giving me a pack of SIGs

2025
01:35:27,213 --> 01:35:27,892
Speaker 2: when I'm ten, You.

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Speaker 3: Know, Daniel, thank you very much for giving us buzz.

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01:35:31,853 --> 01:35:33,772
Speaker 3: You sound like a great teacher. Love to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: O one hundred eighty ten eighty Have you tried to

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01:35:36,372 --> 01:35:40,092
Speaker 3: remove screens from your bedroom or your kids' bedroom? Interesting

2030
01:35:40,173 --> 01:35:42,732
Speaker 3: texts here? Ogaday, guys, what's the point of ditching the screens?

2031
01:35:42,893 --> 01:35:46,133
Speaker 3: It's the future people. Active screens are the devil when

2032
01:35:46,133 --> 01:35:49,812
Speaker 3: it has become integrated in everyday society. There isn't only

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01:35:49,853 --> 01:35:51,732
Speaker 3: social media on a phone, but if you do something

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01:35:51,812 --> 01:35:54,812
Speaker 3: productive or genuinely learn off a screen, what's the issue.

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Speaker 2: Listen to all the old farts trying to live in

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01:35:56,812 --> 01:36:00,133
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties still being antiphones and technology.

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Speaker 3: Lull Yeah, okay, do you agree with that?

2038
01:36:03,093 --> 01:36:05,412
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it sounds like someone who's raised their brain.

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01:36:06,013 --> 01:36:09,173
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two is that Dick's number? Headlines railing coming up?

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Speaker 4: You've talk said the headlines with your.

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01:37:15,053 --> 01:37:18,293
Speaker 15: get Winston Peters kicked out for comments the New Zealand

2057
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2058
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2060
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Speaker 15: Now back to Matteth and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raylean. So we're talking about screens

2062
01:37:33,652 --> 01:37:37,293
Speaker 3: in the bedroom. This is after well known psychologist and

2063
01:37:37,372 --> 01:37:40,532
Speaker 3: author Jonathan heyde, He's gone viral after an interview where

2064
01:37:40,572 --> 01:37:42,372
Speaker 3: he raises this very question here.

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Speaker 5: It is no screens of any kind in the bedroom ever.

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01:37:46,492 --> 01:37:48,013
Speaker 5: This is the rule I wish to God I had

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Speaker 5: done when my kids were little. No screens of any

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01:37:50,973 --> 01:37:52,173
Speaker 5: kind in their bedrooms.

2069
01:37:52,612 --> 01:37:52,812
Speaker 2: Ever.

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01:37:53,013 --> 01:37:53,532
Speaker 3: You start with that.

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Speaker 5: You can have a TV in the living room, they

2072
01:37:55,812 --> 01:37:58,213
Speaker 5: can watch TVs. Sometimes, you can have a computer in

2073
01:37:58,253 --> 01:38:00,412
Speaker 5: the living in the kitchen or whatever. They can go online,

2074
01:38:00,412 --> 01:38:03,972
Speaker 5: they can google things. But if you start with that policy,

2075
01:38:04,772 --> 01:38:08,732
Speaker 5: then screens are just things that they sometimes use. But

2076
01:38:08,812 --> 01:38:10,333
Speaker 5: as soon as you allow them in the bedroom, they

2077
01:38:10,412 --> 01:38:12,852
Speaker 5: become things that they have a relationship with and that

2078
01:38:13,293 --> 01:38:15,612
Speaker 5: they're on. Many of them will be on almost all

2079
01:38:15,692 --> 01:38:16,012
Speaker 5: the time.

2080
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Speaker 22: So start with that.

2081
01:38:18,293 --> 01:38:19,612
Speaker 2: Kind of reminds me, though, my mate there was a

2082
01:38:19,692 --> 01:38:23,293
Speaker 2: Jehovah's Witness and wasn't celebrating Christmas and birthdays and such.

2083
01:38:23,492 --> 01:38:26,093
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of you concern a little bit

2084
01:38:26,133 --> 01:38:32,572
Speaker 2: that you have the kids that just that they're that

2085
01:38:32,692 --> 01:38:34,732
Speaker 2: it feels like they're missing out on everything in life.

2086
01:38:34,812 --> 01:38:37,333
Speaker 3: They become outsiders. Yeah, it is just the truth. You know,

2087
01:38:37,412 --> 01:38:40,213
Speaker 3: we all remember those kids at school. There was one

2088
01:38:40,333 --> 01:38:42,532
Speaker 3: kid in my class at primary school who wasn't allowed

2089
01:38:42,532 --> 01:38:46,213
Speaker 3: access to TV, and unfortunately, because kids are assholes, she

2090
01:38:46,372 --> 01:38:48,012
Speaker 3: kind of got put to one side because she didn't

2091
01:38:48,053 --> 01:38:49,412
Speaker 3: know what we were talking about. When we were talking

2092
01:38:49,412 --> 01:38:52,013
Speaker 3: about The Simpsons and what Now and all those things

2093
01:38:52,053 --> 01:38:53,893
Speaker 3: were watching, she just said, I don't I don't have

2094
01:38:53,933 --> 01:38:54,213
Speaker 3: a TV.

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01:38:54,492 --> 01:38:56,852
Speaker 2: My parents banned me from watching TV at one point,

2096
01:38:57,133 --> 01:39:01,213
Speaker 2: and they allowed it again because I was just sitting

2097
01:39:01,333 --> 01:39:05,133
Speaker 2: in the lounge reading out the listener descriptions of the

2098
01:39:05,173 --> 01:39:08,173
Speaker 2: shows to my sisters, so addacted that I just read,

2099
01:39:08,612 --> 01:39:12,532
Speaker 2: just read the little blurb of what the show would

2100
01:39:12,572 --> 01:39:12,812
Speaker 2: have been.

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01:39:12,973 --> 01:39:16,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's beautiful. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

2102
01:39:16,293 --> 01:39:17,652
Speaker 3: eighty is number to call.

2103
01:39:17,732 --> 01:39:20,173
Speaker 2: Good chat Jens. Of course, all too late now. But

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01:39:20,333 --> 01:39:22,412
Speaker 2: as a society, why do we seem to just accept

2105
01:39:22,452 --> 01:39:24,933
Speaker 2: that technology is a problem for parents and children to

2106
01:39:24,973 --> 01:39:26,973
Speaker 2: deal with. Why do we not put the blame on

2107
01:39:27,013 --> 01:39:30,852
Speaker 2: the adults working for corporates companies in the development of tech.

2108
01:39:31,173 --> 01:39:33,253
Speaker 2: We don't call out our generation of adults that work

2109
01:39:33,333 --> 01:39:36,412
Speaker 2: in this industry with limited ethics. It seems as society

2110
01:39:36,492 --> 01:39:39,692
Speaker 2: we put the blame on those creating the problems. Cheers Chris. Yeah,

2111
01:39:39,732 --> 01:39:43,692
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess though, in every generation has its

2112
01:39:43,812 --> 01:39:48,892
Speaker 2: massive temptations and it's up to make up to parents

2113
01:39:49,053 --> 01:39:53,253
Speaker 2: to make children that are able to resist temptations.

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Speaker 6: Right.

2115
01:39:54,492 --> 01:39:56,692
Speaker 2: So, I mean when I was a Kurd, all it

2116
01:39:56,853 --> 01:39:59,052
Speaker 2: was about was apart from watching TV, as I said before,

2117
01:39:59,133 --> 01:40:01,692
Speaker 2: but getting SIGs right yeap. From about the age of ten,

2118
01:40:01,893 --> 01:40:06,052
Speaker 2: I was completely focused on stealing cigarette csiched smokement.

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Speaker 3: Were you pretty good at it?

2120
01:40:07,293 --> 01:40:07,812
Speaker 2: Ats smoking?

2121
01:40:07,973 --> 01:40:08,173
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2122
01:40:08,452 --> 01:40:11,452
Speaker 2: Oh it was a little bump puffing for a long time. Yeah,

2123
01:40:11,692 --> 01:40:13,372
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think I got pretty good at it.

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01:40:13,492 --> 01:40:13,692
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2125
01:40:13,732 --> 01:40:16,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, You've got to work on that and the tish.

2126
01:40:16,133 --> 01:40:19,293
Speaker 8: How are you, hey, good man, I'm very good.

2127
01:40:19,973 --> 01:40:21,253
Speaker 3: Can you hear your thoughts on us?

2128
01:40:22,933 --> 01:40:23,133
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2129
01:40:23,213 --> 01:40:28,452
Speaker 8: So I completely support the idea of no TV before

2130
01:40:28,692 --> 01:40:30,772
Speaker 8: just before going to bed or in the bedroom. I

2131
01:40:30,812 --> 01:40:33,333
Speaker 8: mean we personally don't have have a TV screen in

2132
01:40:33,452 --> 01:40:35,492
Speaker 8: the bedroom. We just have one TV in the living room.

2133
01:40:36,053 --> 01:40:38,253
Speaker 8: But I think in the in the school holidays what happened.

2134
01:40:38,253 --> 01:40:41,532
Speaker 8: I've got two boy and a girl ten and a six.

2135
01:40:42,293 --> 01:40:45,812
Speaker 8: So during school in the last two weeks I created

2136
01:40:45,933 --> 01:40:49,732
Speaker 8: some rules and they're working so well so far, where

2137
01:40:49,933 --> 01:40:52,973
Speaker 8: the kids are only now to watch screen any kind

2138
01:40:53,013 --> 01:40:57,093
Speaker 8: of screen and that includes gaming, YouTube, et cetera, for

2139
01:40:57,293 --> 01:41:01,093
Speaker 8: just forty five minutes a day if only they do

2140
01:41:01,333 --> 01:41:04,013
Speaker 8: certain tasks which they are supposed to do in terms of,

2141
01:41:04,173 --> 01:41:07,612
Speaker 8: you know, their homework, et cetera, or doing their daily chores.

2142
01:41:08,452 --> 01:41:14,093
Speaker 8: So yeah, and they've surprisingly, within within weeks time, they

2143
01:41:14,213 --> 01:41:16,213
Speaker 8: kind of coped up and they kind of now don't

2144
01:41:16,253 --> 01:41:19,052
Speaker 8: miss it and and they do their own thing, whatever

2145
01:41:19,093 --> 01:41:19,293
Speaker 8: they do.

2146
01:41:20,853 --> 01:41:25,132
Speaker 2: It was a fight at the start a little.

2147
01:41:24,893 --> 01:41:28,213
Speaker 8: Bit, especially my little one. She always comes back I'm bored.

2148
01:41:28,253 --> 01:41:31,173
Speaker 8: I'm bored. And I'm sure parents would have heard this,

2149
01:41:31,973 --> 01:41:34,053
Speaker 8: this line from the kids. I'm bored. I don't know

2150
01:41:34,093 --> 01:41:36,892
Speaker 8: what to do. And the easy part, easy easy way

2151
01:41:36,893 --> 01:41:38,852
Speaker 8: out is we just hand them the screen or okay,

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Speaker 8: watch my phone or go on the YouTube and whatever.

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Speaker 8: But I created a lucky that I've got two kids,

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01:41:45,173 --> 01:41:47,932
Speaker 8: and like I mind, so is do whatever you guys

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01:41:48,013 --> 01:41:51,093
Speaker 8: want to do, but no screen. Now, figure out what

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01:41:51,213 --> 01:41:53,812
Speaker 8: you want to do. And surprisingly they kind of figured out.

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01:41:53,893 --> 01:41:56,372
Speaker 8: Now whether they fight, they cry with each other, they

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01:41:56,492 --> 01:41:58,572
Speaker 8: run around the house, they play hide and seek or

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01:41:59,013 --> 01:42:03,012
Speaker 8: draw something or whatever, they play monopoly, but they realized

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Speaker 8: that there is things to do. It's just I think

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01:42:07,253 --> 01:42:10,093
Speaker 8: it's it's more us the adults who don't want to

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01:42:10,173 --> 01:42:13,852
Speaker 8: take the responsibility of managing their time because we are

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01:42:13,933 --> 01:42:16,213
Speaker 8: just so busy, right, I mean, I mean that way

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01:42:16,253 --> 01:42:18,173
Speaker 8: is lucky because I can afford to work from a

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Speaker 8: home in what I do and that way I got

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Speaker 8: one eye on them. But make sure that my room

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01:42:24,053 --> 01:42:26,173
Speaker 8: is shut and I'm working and they don't have screen

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Speaker 8: and they can do what they want to do safely.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 8: Challenging time for parents. I'd say working parents, especially both

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Speaker 8: full time to keep the kids away from screen.

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Speaker 2: I think now your kids are your kids are sex

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Speaker 2: and teen coming into teenage years when they want to socialize,

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Speaker 2: and and that becomes quite a difficult time around they

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Speaker 2: need If you say they don't have a phone, then

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Speaker 2: you start to worry as a parent that they're not

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Speaker 2: making those social connections that you need to make because

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Speaker 2: that's how all the kids socialize. Have you thought about

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Speaker 2: a plan around that, natis yes, And that's.

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Speaker 8: A great, you know question and situation. So my son,

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01:43:08,053 --> 01:43:10,932
Speaker 8: I mean, in school they are required to have their

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Speaker 8: own kind of laptops or chromebooks and and he's been

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Speaker 8: using it for three years and he's quite responsible. So

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Speaker 8: with my eldest son. He understands the responsibility and we've

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01:43:23,612 --> 01:43:25,612
Speaker 8: educated it. I think the school has done a great

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01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:27,892
Speaker 8: joy as well educating what to watch what not to watch.

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Speaker 8: So I'm comfortable with that and and we monitor that.

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01:43:31,572 --> 01:43:35,733
Speaker 8: Now where we coming to the point whether they're socialized

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Speaker 8: and though they know things or not, and that's where

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01:43:38,173 --> 01:43:40,452
Speaker 8: there are certain things that they are absolutely not allowed

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Speaker 8: to watch. Like I don't know if you guys heard

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01:43:42,333 --> 01:43:45,293
Speaker 8: the recent news about Roadblocks. Like this age group they

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01:43:45,333 --> 01:43:49,732
Speaker 8: are all into Minecraft Roadblocks, but in Australia there's there's

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Speaker 8: a whole lot of questions around these games now, especially

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Speaker 8: road Roadblocks with content and the and the and the

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01:43:57,013 --> 01:43:59,932
Speaker 8: you know, the the animations around it. And that's where

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Speaker 8: my son saw the news and we saw it together

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Speaker 8: and he's like, then I'm deleting Roadblocks from all the

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Speaker 8: all the devices. I'm either wonderful son, just on the

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Speaker 8: end of take.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. I know there was some talk

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Speaker 3: around Roadblocks, you know, the voice messaging that can be done,

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01:44:15,492 --> 01:44:17,092
Speaker 3: but what was the issue with the animation.

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01:44:18,532 --> 01:44:21,933
Speaker 8: I think the the content that Robblocks is wishing is

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01:44:22,293 --> 01:44:27,452
Speaker 8: a lot sexual in nature in in the for young

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Speaker 8: young generation and it's creating a certain imagery of men

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Speaker 8: and women in young minds, and which I can see

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Speaker 8: in my younger daughter. She was very influenced and stuff

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Speaker 8: like that, so and and and and the analysis which

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Speaker 8: which Australia I think is going on the same line.

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01:44:45,173 --> 01:44:48,372
Speaker 8: They've they've blocked roadblocks. A lot of parents have had

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Speaker 8: issues where also there's a lot of scams happening. Because

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01:44:51,412 --> 01:44:54,572
Speaker 8: roadblocks people can play with each other, like the unknown people.

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Speaker 8: So the scams happening on roadblocks is where kids are

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01:45:00,452 --> 01:45:05,412
Speaker 8: you know, transpired into you know, sharing their pictures to

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01:45:06,173 --> 01:45:08,652
Speaker 8: an unknown person, and that that is a whole heaps

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01:45:08,692 --> 01:45:11,933
Speaker 8: of problems right for the parents if that happens. So

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01:45:12,372 --> 01:45:14,372
Speaker 8: those kind of things, we're going to be aware. And

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01:45:14,652 --> 01:45:17,852
Speaker 8: that's where I think education do the kids at that

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01:45:18,053 --> 01:45:20,492
Speaker 8: age when they understand what's right and wrong. And that's

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01:45:20,492 --> 01:45:22,732
Speaker 8: where my son is. And now he said the example

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01:45:22,772 --> 01:45:24,532
Speaker 8: for the little one, and she understands it now within

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01:45:24,572 --> 01:45:26,692
Speaker 8: a week's time, and she like, no, no, the roadblocks

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01:45:26,772 --> 01:45:27,133
Speaker 8: is blocked.

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Speaker 19: I know that.

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01:45:27,933 --> 01:45:30,933
Speaker 8: So no YouTube, no roadblocks, this is good. I just

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01:45:31,053 --> 01:45:33,333
Speaker 8: want to watch. So I have to replay that with

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01:45:33,572 --> 01:45:37,973
Speaker 8: like a proper good educational app like learning eggs. I

2229
01:45:37,973 --> 01:45:40,372
Speaker 8: don't know if you heard it. It's a learning learning

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01:45:40,452 --> 01:45:42,852
Speaker 8: eggs is all about math and English and she's happy,

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01:45:42,893 --> 01:45:44,933
Speaker 8: ass Like, is one hour of the day that's what

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01:45:45,093 --> 01:45:45,452
Speaker 8: she gets?

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01:45:45,893 --> 01:45:49,133
Speaker 2: Yeah on the screen. Yeah, if all she gets something

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01:45:49,213 --> 01:45:52,013
Speaker 2: that is accidentally good for her, then that's fantastic. Yeah,

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01:45:52,133 --> 01:45:53,732
Speaker 2: sound like a great dad and taste. Thank you so

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01:45:53,812 --> 01:45:56,412
Speaker 2: much for your call. The six is I'm a primary

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01:45:56,412 --> 01:45:58,532
Speaker 2: school teacher. The amount of parents who think their kids

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01:45:58,572 --> 01:46:02,692
Speaker 2: are interested and passionate about computers and coding. No, your

2239
01:46:02,772 --> 01:46:05,093
Speaker 2: kid just plays games. These are usually the parents of

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Speaker 2: ADHD and neurodivergent kids that can't throw a ball. By

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01:46:08,093 --> 01:46:12,532
Speaker 2: the way, coincidence, says this texter. I mean, the funniest

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01:46:12,532 --> 01:46:15,932
Speaker 2: thing I find is parents that go, ah, he wants

2243
01:46:15,933 --> 01:46:18,253
Speaker 2: to become a professional gamer, Like he's going to be

2244
01:46:18,372 --> 01:46:19,293
Speaker 2: again into esports.

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01:46:19,372 --> 01:46:19,532
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:46:19,532 --> 01:46:21,652
Speaker 2: I think he's really really got the skills. So it's

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01:46:21,652 --> 01:46:23,173
Speaker 2: got to tell him it's not so much that he's

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01:46:23,173 --> 01:46:25,213
Speaker 2: just in his room playing games. It's no different than

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01:46:25,572 --> 01:46:28,532
Speaker 2: training in a rugby team. He really wants to make

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Speaker 2: a go of it as an esporter. No, he's just

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01:46:30,452 --> 01:46:31,052
Speaker 2: playing games.

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01:46:31,093 --> 01:46:31,293
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:46:31,492 --> 01:46:34,652
Speaker 2: There is four hundred thousand Korean kids that are so

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01:46:34,772 --> 01:46:35,492
Speaker 2: much better than him.

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Speaker 3: They are spending fifteen hours a day doing exactly that, right,

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Speaker 3: sixteen to four, Beck very shortly, but taking your calls. Oh,

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01:46:42,612 --> 01:46:44,253
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty, are you trying

2258
01:46:44,293 --> 01:46:46,333
Speaker 3: to remove all screens from the bedroom?

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01:46:46,372 --> 01:46:49,492
Speaker 4: Back of the mow the issues that affect you and

2260
01:46:49,692 --> 01:46:53,053
Speaker 4: a bit of fun along the way. Matt Afternoons with

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Speaker 4: Skoda plays Scoter codes every day at scoter dot co

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Speaker 4: dot za news talk sa'd.

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01:46:58,652 --> 01:47:02,212
Speaker 3: Be thirteen to four. So we're talking about removing screens

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01:47:02,253 --> 01:47:04,652
Speaker 3: from the bedroom, whether for yourself or your kids, if

2265
01:47:04,652 --> 01:47:07,333
Speaker 3: you tried to do it. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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01:47:07,372 --> 01:47:09,772
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call it? Nine two is

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01:47:10,053 --> 01:47:15,012
Speaker 3: the text? Few texts coming through this one here, Kiday. Guys,

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01:47:15,093 --> 01:47:18,532
Speaker 3: My parents stop us kids from watching TV for a

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01:47:18,612 --> 01:47:21,372
Speaker 3: school term. Was during the craze of Lost season one

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01:47:21,612 --> 01:47:24,092
Speaker 3: and we were like five episodes in when they started.

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01:47:24,412 --> 01:47:26,333
Speaker 3: So my mate said to tell me about it at

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01:47:26,412 --> 01:47:27,732
Speaker 3: school to keep me up to date.

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01:47:27,853 --> 01:47:28,053
Speaker 4: Low.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if your parents got you off Lost

2275
01:47:30,893 --> 01:47:33,772
Speaker 2: before that was a Ponzi scheme of a show. They

2276
01:47:33,853 --> 01:47:36,532
Speaker 2: kept on adding ideas but they never had a solution.

2277
01:47:37,093 --> 01:47:40,092
Speaker 2: And you know, famously the worst ending to a television

2278
01:47:40,173 --> 01:47:41,412
Speaker 2: show ever.

2279
01:47:41,732 --> 01:47:42,892
Speaker 3: What happened to the Polar Bears?

2280
01:47:43,372 --> 01:47:43,532
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2281
01:47:43,612 --> 01:47:45,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, they flashed up for one season.

2282
01:47:45,652 --> 01:47:48,852
Speaker 2: It was a little plug yeah yeah. Oh my god,

2283
01:47:48,893 --> 01:47:51,572
Speaker 2: they just didn't answer a single question. Mind you, Stranger

2284
01:47:51,652 --> 01:47:53,612
Speaker 2: Things might have put its hand up to go. We

2285
01:47:54,013 --> 01:47:54,892
Speaker 2: might have a worse ending.

2286
01:47:55,452 --> 01:47:55,612
Speaker 3: Beer.

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01:47:55,893 --> 01:47:56,093
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:47:56,213 --> 01:47:59,372
Speaker 3: Yeah. One hundred and eightyeen ages number called get a

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Speaker 3: Chris get At. Thanks very good. You're a former teacher.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, seems to be of the theme either charent previous.

2291
01:48:08,412 --> 01:48:10,532
Speaker 14: My story is really fairly complex, and so I'm looking

2292
01:48:10,572 --> 01:48:13,293
Speaker 14: at the clock. I'm thinking ship had I some miss

2293
01:48:13,732 --> 01:48:18,892
Speaker 14: in a quick chat. I was primarily trained and had

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01:48:18,933 --> 01:48:24,812
Speaker 14: transitioned into secondary term three of two nineteen, and the

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01:48:24,893 --> 01:48:27,293
Speaker 14: college that I went to the seemed to be a

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01:48:27,412 --> 01:48:31,892
Speaker 14: lack of a policy or a process around cell phones

2297
01:48:31,933 --> 01:48:34,932
Speaker 14: and classes. I was employed as a year ten, year

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01:48:34,933 --> 01:48:38,412
Speaker 14: eleven English teacher, and I noticed that they just consumed

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01:48:38,732 --> 01:48:41,612
Speaker 14: all the classes that I've seen, consumed the playground, all

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01:48:41,612 --> 01:48:41,932
Speaker 14: the kids.

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01:48:41,973 --> 01:48:42,492
Speaker 16: We'd just done it.

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01:48:43,732 --> 01:48:46,852
Speaker 14: At the time, my marriage wasn't in the best shape

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01:48:46,933 --> 01:48:50,532
Speaker 14: in terms of you know, worklock balance. I was doing

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01:48:50,692 --> 01:48:53,412
Speaker 14: musical theater, so outside of the classroom you know, things

2305
01:48:53,452 --> 01:48:55,732
Speaker 14: are pretty busy in terms of juggling a few balls.

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01:48:56,412 --> 01:48:58,852
Speaker 14: And I had a define student one day and this

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01:48:59,253 --> 01:49:01,452
Speaker 14: kid told me, and I was sitting terms to go

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01:49:01,572 --> 01:49:05,452
Speaker 14: get apped, but I asked to put the cell phone away, and.

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01:49:05,492 --> 01:49:06,333
Speaker 16: That day I lost it.

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01:49:06,732 --> 01:49:09,173
Speaker 14: I lost my call, lost my ALL one oh one,

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01:49:09,893 --> 01:49:12,812
Speaker 14: and physically went over to that student and took the

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01:49:12,893 --> 01:49:17,612
Speaker 14: smartphone out of her hand, including using you know, a

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01:49:17,692 --> 01:49:19,333
Speaker 14: lot of language which I'm not proud of.

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01:49:19,652 --> 01:49:24,852
Speaker 16: And this is soviss turned three two nineteen.

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01:49:25,532 --> 01:49:29,173
Speaker 14: At the end of that year, my registration was up

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01:49:29,213 --> 01:49:33,213
Speaker 14: for a newer my teacher registration, so the principal.

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01:49:32,853 --> 01:49:34,652
Speaker 16: Had documented that incident.

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01:49:35,652 --> 01:49:36,173
Speaker 3: At the time.

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01:49:37,053 --> 01:49:39,093
Speaker 14: The parent that I spoke to of that student was

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Speaker 14: very supportive of my actions. Long story short, I got

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Speaker 14: the registered from the New zeal And Teenis Council. In

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01:49:47,293 --> 01:49:50,893
Speaker 14: February twenty I got an email saying that I was

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01:49:50,973 --> 01:49:56,532
Speaker 14: under investigation. By then I had changed schools. And then

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01:49:56,652 --> 01:49:59,692
Speaker 14: in March twenty twenty five, stuffed at a story about

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Speaker 14: my disciplinary trigunal process in terms of my cod to

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01:50:02,893 --> 01:50:06,452
Speaker 14: conduct and they lead with the headline and see aggressive

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01:50:06,492 --> 01:50:08,213
Speaker 14: teacher who bullied students struck off.

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Speaker 16: During this time, I was on description relief, so.

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01:50:13,452 --> 01:50:16,892
Speaker 14: I decided to look for other work, and I found

2330
01:50:16,933 --> 01:50:20,732
Speaker 14: my role as a journalist from a local newspaper. Two

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01:50:20,812 --> 01:50:25,572
Speaker 14: weeks after that headline. Yeah, two weeks after the headline,

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01:50:25,572 --> 01:50:28,652
Speaker 14: I I got made made redundant, let go.

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01:50:28,772 --> 01:50:31,612
Speaker 16: By the newspaper. So I decided to bugger and tell

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01:50:31,692 --> 01:50:32,133
Speaker 16: my story.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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01:50:34,772 --> 01:50:35,492
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris.

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01:50:35,652 --> 01:50:37,572
Speaker 2: We we need half an hour to talk to you

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01:50:37,652 --> 01:50:40,972
Speaker 2: about about your story, but unfortunately we don't control when

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01:50:40,973 --> 01:50:43,412
Speaker 2: the news and such comes in in the ads. So

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01:50:43,652 --> 01:50:47,692
Speaker 2: thank you so much for sharing, but unfortunately we have

2341
01:50:47,853 --> 01:50:49,892
Speaker 2: to go now. But it sounds like a huge story

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01:50:49,933 --> 01:50:51,732
Speaker 2: that we need to unpack at some point.

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01:50:53,133 --> 01:50:54,732
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Chris. And we'll find out the

2344
01:50:54,812 --> 01:50:56,612
Speaker 3: name of your book. But we've got to play some messages.

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01:50:56,652 --> 01:50:58,492
Speaker 3: Beg very shortly. There is nine to four.

2346
01:50:59,933 --> 01:51:03,293
Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2347
01:51:03,652 --> 01:51:07,732
Speaker 4: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 14: It'd be.

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Speaker 3: News talks areb It is six to four, just quickly, Chris,

2350
01:51:13,652 --> 01:51:16,093
Speaker 3: who phoned before the teacher. He has written a book.

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01:51:16,293 --> 01:51:18,772
Speaker 3: It's called Put the Phone Away by Chris Varley, and

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01:51:18,893 --> 01:51:20,972
Speaker 3: you can find it at Paper Plus. Put the phone

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01:51:20,973 --> 01:51:23,293
Speaker 3: Away by Chris Varley. Sounds like a fascinating read.

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01:51:23,452 --> 01:51:25,173
Speaker 2: Yes, Mama, I would have liked to spend some more

2355
01:51:25,213 --> 01:51:29,012
Speaker 2: time with him, but looks like I can. I'll sniff

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01:51:29,013 --> 01:51:29,572
Speaker 2: out this book.

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01:51:29,973 --> 01:51:35,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, what incredible story concerning Yeah, absolutely right, that

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Speaker 3: is where we'll leave it. Thank you very much for

2359
01:51:38,293 --> 01:51:41,932
Speaker 3: all your texts and calls throughout this afternoon. Really enjoyed

2360
01:51:41,973 --> 01:51:45,372
Speaker 3: today's show. Heather is coming up next and she will

2361
01:51:45,412 --> 01:51:48,412
Speaker 3: be speaking to Housing Minister Chris Bishop after five pm

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01:51:48,532 --> 01:51:52,572
Speaker 3: about the backdown on Auckland housing intensity, so that will

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01:51:52,572 --> 01:51:55,253
Speaker 3: be interesting. But where will be back here live from

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01:51:55,333 --> 01:51:59,492
Speaker 3: twelve pm tomorrow. Looking forward to another great show Friday tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, live from twelve pm tomorrow. Tyler, why would I

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Speaker 2: be playing this reasonably punishing song from Billy Joel?

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Speaker 3: I believe this is called honesty because we had that

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Speaker 3: shed about some dirty buggers ripping off the good old

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Speaker 3: key we honesty box, including that horrible woman down south

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Speaker 3: who clearly just needed so much honey to feed her

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Speaker 3: kids that she's going multiple dimes.

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Speaker 2: Why Hola, why Holer, why Hola? Stealing eggs and honey

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Speaker 2: and it takes a honey bee. It's whole life to

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Speaker 2: find one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey. So if

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Speaker 2: you're in the White Hola region gone the Antago Dad times, yep,

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Speaker 2: check out the picture of this woman stealing that beech honey.

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Speaker 3: Name and shame, great tune, great show.

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Speaker 2: Until tomorrow, give me a tast a key for us again.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: It's all bits of concerned.

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Speaker 3: I won't ask for nothing.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gone.

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Speaker 7: When I want.

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Speaker 2: Sincerity, tell me where else chinna term because you're the

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Speaker 2: one letter.

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Speaker 17: Bend the po.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, this that a lonely world. Everyone is so true.

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Speaker 2: All honesty, it's honey, other hand.

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Speaker 4: The bots the word.

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Speaker 7: I read you, I Madam Tyler Tyler.

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