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Speaker 1: Now listen. If you are at all interested in understanding

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Speaker 1: what's going wrong at rugby headquarters in Wellington, can I

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Speaker 1: recommend that you read Gregor Paul's piece in the Herald today.

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Speaker 1: It's an excellent soormation here because the suggestion, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the question that we had yesterday when we were looking

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Speaker 1: at the financials which was released was how on earth

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Speaker 1: is it that New Zealand Rugby pulls in more money

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Speaker 1: than it ever has in one financial year and still

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Speaker 1: manages to not make a profit, Like how do you

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Speaker 1: do that? And the answer is it seems, going by

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Speaker 1: Gregor's piece, just wasteful spending and spending in the wrong places.

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Speaker 1: For example, New Zealand Rugby spent more than seven and

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Speaker 1: a half million dollars last year on paying board members

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Speaker 1: and executives. Now that is more seven and a half

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Speaker 1: That is more than the seven million dollars it's spent

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Speaker 1: on Heartland rugby teams last year, and it is more

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Speaker 1: than a five and a half million dollars it's spent

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Speaker 1: on its five super rugby clubs. No organization should spend

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Speaker 1: more on the people running the thing than on the

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Speaker 1: thing itself. That's nuts. New Zealand Rugby flew two board members,

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Speaker 1: Patsy Ready and Bailey Mackey to the UK last year

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Speaker 1: when they were leaving the organization the following month. What's

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Speaker 1: the point if you know that people are leaving, or

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Speaker 1: if they know they're leaving, stop flying them places. They're

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Speaker 1: now redundant, they're useless. When the All Blacks played in Tokyo,

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Speaker 1: they took players and coaches and management, fair enough, but

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Speaker 1: then they also took administrative staff and executive stuff. Seventy

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Speaker 1: five people for a rugby game. Honestly, this way too much.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how much they were paying at the

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Speaker 1: hotel they were staying nine hundred dollars a night. Now,

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Speaker 1: that is an organization spending like it's in the gold

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Speaker 1: mining game, not like it's an organization making more annual

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Speaker 1: losses than profits in recent memory. Now, Gregor Paul suggests

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Speaker 1: some people are going to lose their jobs, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's probably fair. To be fair though to inzt oar,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we all understand what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: Not all of this is inzt Our's fault. The biggest

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Speaker 1: problem I think that they've actually got is that rugby

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Speaker 1: is boring and that's because the rules suck and inzet

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Speaker 1: are only only has so much control over the rules. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's really a world rugby problem. But they know and

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Speaker 1: we know, and it has been obvious for ages that

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Speaker 1: the problems that they face with participation in viewership and

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Speaker 1: attendance and money are not going to get solved anytime soon. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you know things are tough and they're not improving,

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Speaker 1: do you not put the credit card away? Do you

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Speaker 1: not cut the spending? You and I might, but not

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Speaker 1: in z R apparently, and that's their fault. For more

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