Speaker 1: Welcome to the B Y and C Podcast, brought to
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Speaker 1: we find ourselves reflecting on a somewhat baffling performance from
Speaker 1: the black Caps. After the obvious highs of the tour
Speaker 1: to India, there were hopes to form would continue through
Speaker 1: to the English series. Instead, we found ourselves with a
Speaker 1: bad case of the dropsies. There is no logical explanation
Speaker 1: as to why this would manifest. We know this side
Speaker 1: is infinitely capable in the field, as evidenced by our
Speaker 1: stunning performance in the first innings of the first Test
Speaker 1: against India. The reality is you can't give the likes
Speaker 1: of Harry Brooks four chances and not expect to be punished.
Speaker 1: What's clear is the black Caps need to be at
Speaker 1: the top of their game if they have any chance
Speaker 1: of complete out competing against the English and Dylan Cleaver,
Speaker 1: I know you've heard the phrase the yips, yeah, and
Speaker 1: usually that refers to golfs an individual who suddenly gets
Speaker 1: the yips? Is there such a thing as the collective yips?
Speaker 1: Where teams start dropping catches and like a virus, it
Speaker 1: infects everyone and people start tensing up. Is there such
Speaker 1: a thing, because it's weird how that happens, isn't it
Speaker 1: How a few catches a mess and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it becomes a plague. Almost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't think so, would you, Because some of
Speaker 2: the guys dropping those catches are our most reliable fielders exactly.
Speaker 2: Tom Latham is an excellent fielder. But there is one
Speaker 2: thing that really bugs me about this. And just allow
Speaker 2: me a little rent for a second.
Speaker 1: But we were anticipating it, Paul.
Speaker 2: I cannot I cannot stand this thought.
Speaker 3: I actually thought Dylan might be quite happy with that performance,
Speaker 3: So I'm actually intrigued to hear what he might have
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 2: I cannot stand the narrative that has a merged from
Speaker 2: Scary Head and Tom Latham that things could have been
Speaker 2: so different if we just held those catches. Well, they
Speaker 2: didn't hold those catches correct. Things could have been so
Speaker 2: different if Tom Latham had turned US forty seven into
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty seven, but he didn't do that either.
Speaker 2: Things could have been so different if the plane carrying
Speaker 2: England to New Zealand clipped the remarkables instead of landing
Speaker 2: next to John Davies Oval, but it didn't like, it's
Speaker 2: not bad luck that you drop catches. It's bad cricket.
Speaker 2: And everything seems to have been washed away from Hagley Oval.
Speaker 2: But oh you know, if those catches had stuck, things
Speaker 2: would have been so different. Yeah, they might have been,
Speaker 2: but you didn't. I own it, own your mistakes.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dylan. I wholeheartedly agree with you. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's almost interesting, wasn't it, Paul, That the lead that
Speaker 1: they got over us, which in the end was crucial,
Speaker 1: was almost directly connected to drop catchers. And and Dylan's right,
Speaker 1: you can't say, oh, you know, we didn't hold our catchers.
Speaker 1: If that hadn't happened, it would have been a close
Speaker 1: test match. He's exactly right. You didn't hold those catches,
Speaker 1: you drop them, and so that's the game. And if
Speaker 1: you don't, you know, take your chances, you lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it is that point. You know,
Speaker 3: it's sort of unlucky. You know, it's not like you
Speaker 3: lost the toss or it rained when you were when
Speaker 3: you were about to catch the ball. It wasn't it
Speaker 3: wasn't luck. It wasn't about luck. It was it was
Speaker 3: a skill based balls up. So yeah, look it was
Speaker 3: really really frustrating, and I said it on the a
Speaker 3: SEC commentary over the weekend, but it just feels like
Speaker 3: this is what this game is going to be remembered for.
Speaker 4: Not Brooks runs or cast As wickets.
Speaker 3: Or you know, the the emergence of the of the
Speaker 3: prodigy Jacob Ethel or Nathan Smith's debut or whatever. You know,
Speaker 3: all of these sort of things around that game. It's
Speaker 3: going to be remembered for, Oh, that was that bloody
Speaker 3: terrible game when you Dealan dropped eight catchers and I
Speaker 3: guess the guy I felt sorry for were Smith three
Speaker 3: times three catches dropped off his bowling, Willow Rourke three
Speaker 3: catches dropped off his bowling, plus Matt Henry and Glenn
Speaker 3: Phillips eight exactly eight chances. And we absolutely let England
Speaker 3: off the hook from one hundred and you know we
Speaker 3: did it when we were betting, which we can talk
Speaker 3: about in a minute. I'm sure you know we were
Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety nine for three in that first
Speaker 3: innings and we absolutely did it, you know with the
Speaker 3: betting when sorry with the bowling and the fielding off
Speaker 3: it when England was seventy one for four in their
Speaker 3: first innings. Yeah, just a really, really frustrating game.
Speaker 1: It's inexplicable in a way because as I mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: you think about that first innings against India, Well, we
Speaker 1: were utterly magnificent in the field, so we know we
Speaker 1: can do it. And we know, as you mentioned, Dylan,
Speaker 1: these are good players that are dropping the catchers. So
Speaker 1: what the hell is it? But you know, when the
Speaker 1: Test match started off, I thought England bowl poorly. I
Speaker 1: thought they were too short, they weren't getting it up there,
Speaker 1: and they weren't making the New Zealanders pay. And you know,
Speaker 1: we took sort of full advantage and we got ourselves
Speaker 1: in premium sort of situation.
Speaker 2: Well wait, not full advantage, not full advantage, some advantage.
Speaker 1: Some advantage, and then we blew it. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's my feeling that England has the ward on us.
Speaker 1: I think of that series in England where we were
Speaker 1: competitive and every single Test match and lost every single
Speaker 1: Test match. They came here, did us again apart from
Speaker 1: that final Test where we kind of stole it, miracled it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: miracled it. So we have to be at our absolute
Speaker 1: best to compete with these guys and we simply weren't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's five out of six tests England have beatn
Speaker 2: New Zealand and pretty much convincingly. Like, yes, you did
Speaker 2: mention we were in those Tests in England, but it
Speaker 2: was still five wickets, five wickets, seven wickets. Yes on
Speaker 2: the scorecard. That's a bit of a thumbing to be honest,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Look, I like the fact you brought up
Speaker 2: that first innings England when the task that's meant to
Speaker 2: be a massive advantage at Hegley. They did in bowl
Speaker 2: particularly well. I thought Chris Wolkes was worse than average,
Speaker 2: he was very Tom Latham battered like a dream and
Speaker 2: I guess my disappointment with that is that forty seven
Speaker 2: could have, should have might have been one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty seven. He was batting that well and he went
Speaker 2: out to that frustrating thing that he does where he
Speaker 2: looks to work the ball wider mid on through midwicket,
Speaker 2: when you know the maker's name back past the bowler,
Speaker 2: you know who knows what he could have done. He
Speaker 2: loves batting. It had be able. That's a critical factor
Speaker 2: for me is that there hasn't got enough attention. I
Speaker 2: don't think granted, India was a bowler series, but that
Speaker 2: is now eight tests New Zealand have gone and they've
Speaker 2: scored one century and that eight Test span that's fifteen
Speaker 2: completed innings. I'm not counting the one where they chased
Speaker 2: down one hundred, yeah, because you don't get a chance
Speaker 2: to get a century obviously, but fifteen completed innings where
Speaker 2: only ratcheans hundred at Bengalou is the only three figure score.
Speaker 2: Tom Latham has gone thirty three Test innings without a
Speaker 2: Test century. Yeah, that's an enormous amount of innings. You'd
Speaker 2: never last in Australia with that sort of number. Conway's
Speaker 2: gone twenty eight. That's your two openers, the bedrock of
Speaker 2: your team. You add those numbers up as extraordinary. Really.
Speaker 2: Williamson ten innings, which is not many, but it's still
Speaker 2: blow path for him. Revenge is the only one who
Speaker 2: can be excused. He got that one in Benglaru. He's
Speaker 2: gone six innings. Mitchell's gone twenty two completed innings without
Speaker 2: a ton. Tom Blundell, we'll get to him soon, twenty
Speaker 2: six innings. Ben Phillips hasn't scored a Test century yet.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's limited opportunities. And if we think Will
Speaker 2: Young's the savior. As much as I love Will Young,
Speaker 2: he's had thirty two innings himself without a test century.
Speaker 2: So there's a real lack of theft in that top seven.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that last week where they said, you.
Speaker 2: Know, am I repeating myself?
Speaker 1: No? No, But you made the point. I think it was
Speaker 1: in reference to an artist call, which was this is
Speaker 1: because of the batting depth in New Zealand cricket, and
Speaker 1: you went, well, no, hang on, And I've been thinking
Speaker 1: and pondering this to Paul Forward and I want to
Speaker 1: draw your attention to it. And that is Conway. You know, he,
Speaker 1: I guess had a few knocks in India. He was
Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure. I'm not convict, and he
Speaker 1: looked all at sea, let's be honest, in India. But
Speaker 1: he did get some runs. But I'm not convinced that
Speaker 1: he's an Emmy kind of form and he still has
Speaker 1: that inclination, that little inside edge, that back coming just
Speaker 1: outside the off stump and leaving that gap between the
Speaker 1: bat and the pad. I'm not convinced about Conway still,
Speaker 1: and I still don't know that he's in great neck.
Speaker 3: They pissed off and him there and he looks increasingly
Speaker 3: frosh straighted.
Speaker 4: I mean I had a quick look.
Speaker 3: I think he's last twelve months, I think nine bats
Speaker 3: averaging twenty one against the sort of overall average of
Speaker 3: thirty eight thirty nine, rapidly declining overall average. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: is really really battling, and frankly he was. You know,
Speaker 3: he didn't get out to a particularly good ball. He
Speaker 3: got out to a good court and bold opportunity in
Speaker 3: that first innings, but it was one of a number
Speaker 3: of I don't know, just lack of daisical wickets, you know,
Speaker 3: ratch and hitting a.
Speaker 4: Full toss to midwicket.
Speaker 3: Mitchell got a leading edge, blundle, lazy slap to point
Speaker 3: Smith Henry Southy show or whatever they do what they do.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's that frustration of the guys that are
Speaker 3: good getting in and they're not going on to score
Speaker 3: the big scores. And then, yes, I agree, it does
Speaker 3: feel like Conway's been worked out by good international bowlers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting, you know what do we end
Speaker 1: up with in the end in that first innings three
Speaker 1: forty eight. You know, for it it should have been
Speaker 1: been but I was like, okay, it's there or thereabouts.
Speaker 1: I think Henry sal the O'Rourke and Psmith are going
Speaker 1: to bowl well and better than this England did on
Speaker 1: this wicket. We had them in trouble, but you simply
Speaker 1: can't give a player of Harry Brook's class that many chances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to the point where I was even
Speaker 2: I was asking the question, is he actually even betting? Well? Sure,
Speaker 2: I didn't actually even think he was betting particularly well.
Speaker 2: He was thumping the ball quite effectively, but thumping it
Speaker 2: in the air to field is quite often as well.
Speaker 2: So you know, it was a weird It was a
Speaker 2: weird test, and even feels weird talking about this now,
Speaker 2: because you know, we've just come off the greatest series
Speaker 2: in New Zealand history, American series, and it feels like
Speaker 2: we've gone from boom to bust very quickly. And I'm
Speaker 2: wondering if we're overreacting to this, if if the drop
Speaker 2: catches such a visceral feeling of frustration that it kind
Speaker 2: of leaks or leeches into all your thinking about the
Speaker 2: game because we bet it. Okay, you win the you
Speaker 2: lose the toss, and you first straight back into it,
Speaker 2: it's okay. And even the second innings, Paul's dead right.
Speaker 2: Some of the wickets were almost comical. How does show
Speaker 2: upsher get four wickets in that first and on the
Speaker 2: first is at Oval?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: And another point, did we make a mistake not playing
Speaker 2: a spinner?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I was wondering that too.
Speaker 2: Looking very samey same, weren't we?
Speaker 1: Yes, I you know, in terms of we look at
Speaker 1: that performance against India took everyone by surprised. It was stunning.
Speaker 1: I've kind of felt like we're back in the place
Speaker 1: we were before that Test series where we were all going, well,
Speaker 1: it's a bit gloomy, it's a bit sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: not great. I want to get your thoughts Paul Ford
Speaker 1: on Smith. I like the cut of his jib. I
Speaker 1: think he's going to bring something to the game. I've
Speaker 1: never seen him play before. He looks a very handy
Speaker 1: bowler and he looks a very handy batsman to me.
Speaker 1: And I like the look of him, but of an
Speaker 1: issue with no balls and so forth, But I think
Speaker 1: he's got something to offer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3: He looked he looked busy, looked full of a VENGEI
Speaker 3: looked pumped up. He looked like Ian, both of them
Speaker 3: as well, with his mullet and his mustache, and you
Speaker 3: know credit for that as well. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: he did a lot wrong. As I say, created a
Speaker 3: bunch of opportunities. For get Joe Route out for a
Speaker 3: duck in your first spell in test cricket, you're probably
Speaker 3: doing something right. Bettered nicely in the second innings. Looks
Speaker 3: very comfortable. I think Dylan's mentioned the fact that he's
Speaker 3: a he's a bloody good athlete. You know, he's a
Speaker 3: he's fit as a fiddle. Yeah, it looks looks like
Speaker 3: they've picked the right guy. And the interesting thing maybe
Speaker 3: we'll talk about it in a sec is is he
Speaker 3: even going to be there at the base?
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the other thing. Brighton cass Yep, he
Speaker 1: will the cast blaster he reminded me of it's bloody
Speaker 1: gone out of my head now. Hammerson, Harmerson, he has
Speaker 1: that same kind of He looked the most threatening of
Speaker 1: their bowlers. I agree with you. I thought Whites was
Speaker 1: woeful in that first innings, but I looked at this guy.
Speaker 1: He's got height, he hits the deer card, looks a
Speaker 1: good bowler. And he proved problematic for us.
Speaker 2: He kind of looks like he could be a roadie
Speaker 2: your guitar check. Sure for a hard rock band too,
Speaker 2: doesn't He's got that kind of look about him. But yeah, awkward.
Speaker 2: And the same with Gus Akinson, who wasn't particularly good
Speaker 2: on that first innings either because he kept on having
Speaker 2: no ball problems and his Him and Stokes were beside
Speaker 2: themselves with their front foot slipping on that front front line. Yes,
Speaker 2: but Atkinson and cast together I think, you know, it's
Speaker 2: always you've always got to have a caveat there with
Speaker 2: fast bowling attacks. A lot depends on injuries, but those
Speaker 2: two did look quite menacing and awkward. Guess still we
Speaker 2: had our chances.
Speaker 3: Stunning statistic stunning statistic about Casts. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you saw this that he's the first England baseballer to
Speaker 3: take ten wickets away from England in sixteen years.
Speaker 4: Wow, unreal.
Speaker 3: He's got nineteen wickets and three Tests, and nine of
Speaker 3: those wickets were in Pakistan, hardly a mecca.
Speaker 4: For bowling of his style. You would have.
Speaker 1: Thought absolutely there was a lot of chat about the
Speaker 1: young fellow Jacob Bethel. Yeah, I think absolutely, and I
Speaker 1: also it was a situation in that second innings where
Speaker 1: it was like I almost felt like they sort of said,
Speaker 1: all right, young was a freebie. You've got nothing to
Speaker 1: lose here, just have a crack. And so he had
Speaker 1: that freedom, you know what I mean. But he does
Speaker 1: look at prospect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've gone to town on that second innings in England, Yes,
Speaker 2: if they've just uncovered lost Leonardo. I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was that good. I think the first innings was probably
Speaker 2: a little bit more instructive where he actually battled pretty hard, yes,
Speaker 2: but then went out to a good nut. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: mean like it was a decent game for the number three's,
Speaker 2: wasn't it. Our own one was pretty handy too.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, and let's talk about Caine. Williamson
Speaker 1: just slided right back in ninety odd in that first
Speaker 1: ninety three I think it was nine thousand test runs
Speaker 1: clearly our best and Paul forward he showed it. Just
Speaker 1: to just shame he didn't go on with it in
Speaker 1: that first innings.
Speaker 3: Yes, scratched around a little bit at the start of
Speaker 3: the innings, as caanees want to do, but then he
Speaker 3: just started to look increasingly assured. It's like he's just
Speaker 3: going through a net session and warming into his work.
Speaker 3: And yeah, just say first, keeping it to nine thousand runs.
Speaker 3: And I don't really care about nine thousand because ten
Speaker 3: thousands just seems so much cooler. So hopefully, hopefully he's
Speaker 3: still around, you know, just to me, thousands a bit
Speaker 3: like one hundred and fifty. It's not really worth celebrating.
Speaker 3: But gee, he's what's he now, thirteen hundred runs ahead
Speaker 3: of Ross Taylor.
Speaker 4: Something like that.
Speaker 3: Yes, almost starting to mow down, starting to mow down
Speaker 3: some of the big dogs of world cricket.
Speaker 1: That's the sort of thing I would have expected Cleaver
Speaker 1: to say. Not you, Paul Ford. I thought you would
Speaker 1: have been frothing at the mouth about the fact that
Speaker 1: he got nine thousand tests runs. I would have thought
Speaker 1: Cleaver was the one that went on. He had nine
Speaker 1: thousand cares. All right, So there we are. Let's look
Speaker 1: ahead to the second Test. Have been an audio for
Speaker 1: many Oh yes, okay, let's go to it.
Speaker 3: We're up for media today, which would suggest that you're playing.
Speaker 4: Have you been given the nord No?
Speaker 5: I was a look at the pitch. Looks pretty green
Speaker 5: to me, But.
Speaker 4: It seems the spins mate, you know, I love that shameworn.
Speaker 5: No, obviously we'll wait and see. You know, obviously a
Speaker 5: few days out looks pretty green at the moment.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, well, last time your ball with the
Speaker 1: reborn Test matches, you've got thirteen wickets.
Speaker 3: How much of a rosy glowe you carry into your
Speaker 3: next test potentially on Friday.
Speaker 5: Wow, it could be a lot different conditions, I'd imagine.
Speaker 5: I think if it was like would be pretty happy.
Speaker 5: But yeah, obviously, I guess it was just great to
Speaker 5: be part of that series. You know, all three games
Speaker 5: were pretty different and everyone chipping at different times, which
Speaker 5: you know is good, good for the squad and it's
Speaker 5: good for I guess for us to go forward and yeah,
Speaker 5: obviously look to turn around the last pretick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the gossip is then that Santana may be
Speaker 1: coming in for Smith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems likely. I mean, if you're just going
Speaker 2: purely on what they brought to the table at Hagley,
Speaker 2: I'd be more tempted to drop Suvie than yeah Smith,
Speaker 2: But I just don't think they're going to.
Speaker 1: I can I just touch on that, And I think
Speaker 1: it was from some correspondence we got Paul Ford regarding
Speaker 1: Salvie in his record where he was averaging twenty eight
Speaker 1: for the first godd eighty odd Test matches and for
Speaker 1: the last twenty odd he's averaged sort of forty three
Speaker 1: or something horrendously, you know, So there's been a real
Speaker 1: drop off with Salvey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is absolutely right, VISTI all center.
Speaker 3: I think terrible, terrible poker face from him, well poker
Speaker 3: audio at least going out there and starting to talk
Speaker 3: about the green pitch. Jason Pine brilliantly all over him
Speaker 3: on that one. Santa has three for one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty three in three innings at the base and so
Speaker 3: averaging forty one. Hardly frightening statistics. But you know, if
Speaker 3: Bisher can get wickets then he definitely can. Yes, the
Speaker 3: Saudi drop off. I had a quick look the last
Speaker 3: twelve months. His bowling average has gone from a career
Speaker 3: average of thirty ticked over to thirty. It has been
Speaker 3: fifty four across ten matches, so you know, a massive,
Speaker 3: massive drop off in form for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's problematic.
Speaker 3: And as I mentioned before, you know these are who
Speaker 3: the chances were off, Henry Smith, Phillips and Willow Rourke.
Speaker 3: So there were eight drop catches zero off Tim SOUVII,
Speaker 3: so not really getting the wickets and not actually creating
Speaker 3: the chances.
Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty.
Speaker 3: Difficult like it does feel like it is a hope
Speaker 3: based selection based on historical performance rather than who we
Speaker 3: think is going to be most effective. I think England
Speaker 3: will be relatively pleased that Smith it's going to be
Speaker 3: stood down for this game.
Speaker 1: I agree, And you know he's announced his retirement and
Speaker 1: Jesus what a legend of the game he's been, no question,
Speaker 1: and he's been such a great servant for New Zealand cricket.
Speaker 1: But we can't be pissing around with this sort of stuff,
Speaker 1: Dylan Cleve. And my whole view is we pick the
Speaker 1: best side in the side that we think is going
Speaker 1: to win the next Test match. And you've just, to
Speaker 1: my mind, you've got to give Smith another run over
Speaker 1: sent Now, as much as I respect sent Over, Salvie, sorry,
Speaker 1: as much as I respect Salvie, you've got to make
Speaker 1: hard calls like that. Surely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tend to agree. And I think one
Speaker 2: of the underrated factors on Southey's decline as well is
Speaker 2: he hasn't got to sit and follow up the other
Speaker 2: end bowling left arm swinging it into the pads, which
Speaker 2: means that his right arm swinging away from the outside
Speaker 2: edge becomes even more effective. I think that that not
Speaker 2: enough people have sort of credited that for the drop off.
Speaker 2: I think it's got to play a huge partner and
Speaker 2: then Wagoner coming in bowling the short stuff, which unfortunately
Speaker 2: I think they're kind of they're giving that role to
Speaker 2: Smith and O'Rourke a bit now, and it's a bit
Speaker 2: of a shame. I wouldn't I noticed when England do
Speaker 2: the short ball attack, it's principally Ben Stokes that leads
Speaker 2: it with the old ball. I would not like to
Speaker 2: see Smith and O'Rourke in particular hit down that route
Speaker 2: that early. But you know, these are the cards that
Speaker 2: I guess they're playing with now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know one of the you know, there's a
Speaker 1: few players under pressure Latham as you know all the
Speaker 1: batsmen really is, as stated a Latham Conway. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions being asked about Blundle and his lack
Speaker 1: of form drop some catches too, you know, and Gary
Speaker 1: Stead has been quite emphatic he's backed him all the
Speaker 1: way and said he he will return to form. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he is.
Speaker 2: I have a problem with that already, do.
Speaker 1: So do I?
Speaker 2: I think he's so out of form now. Yes, that
Speaker 2: they're working on the old stop clock is right twice
Speaker 2: a day theory with Blundle. They figure if they keep
Speaker 2: wheeling him out, eventually he's going to get some runs.
Speaker 2: Like Henry Nichols did. He was a literable, right, they
Speaker 2: could go see told you the whole loyalty thing. You've
Speaker 2: got to trust us. Yeah, but we had eleven tests
Speaker 2: of nonsense in between.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. And you know, in terms of the
Speaker 1: hard calls, Paul Forward, do we go Smith over Southe?
Speaker 1: Do we go Young over Conway? For example? Tough calls?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well Blunder, I mean Blunda the last twelve
Speaker 3: months averaging fourteen with the bat, nineteen below his career average,
Speaker 3: So jeez, yeah, just scary, scary loss of form. What
Speaker 3: i'd I'd definitely be dropping him below Phillips and the
Speaker 3: betting order. Phillips is averaging sort of thirty nine, nearly
Speaker 3: forty over the last twelve months, so I think he's
Speaker 3: earned that little promotion. But yeah, look, I just can't
Speaker 3: see Stead and Wells doing anything other than picks out
Speaker 3: there and just saying, you know, we trust the old
Speaker 3: dog to come in and do something fantastic for us.
Speaker 3: I just actually can't see them doing it. But as
Speaker 3: I think that's a call that i'd make. Yeah, look,
Speaker 3: I know that Young is probably not a compelling case,
Speaker 3: but it does feel like, you know, I think this
Speaker 3: could be. I think Conway is that he is on
Speaker 3: the precipice here in this Test match against the base
Speaker 3: at the basin. So yeah, I think it's whether it's
Speaker 3: one match too many or is it the great redemption?
Speaker 4: Has Dylan mentioned?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, And I just want to mention something that
Speaker 1: you put forward last week, Dylan, which was that Latham
Speaker 1: takes the gloves, maybe drops down the order, maybe you
Speaker 1: get Will Young up there opening, which again is so
Speaker 1: unfair on Will Young, putting him, you know, in a
Speaker 1: place that he's not best suited. But you know, horses
Speaker 1: for courses type scenario. Can I just ask you both
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, with Blundle, where is the
Speaker 1: strait swat.
Speaker 2: Well, they can't within the squad that they've got unless
Speaker 2: they do it with Latham, as we mentioned, and that's
Speaker 2: non elegant solution and it's not something you could ever
Speaker 2: imagine Gary Stead doing. But I mean the thing with
Speaker 2: keeping on picking Blundle is also there's another factor in
Speaker 2: this and what message does that send to the guys
Speaker 2: that are slogging it out on the first class circuit
Speaker 2: next to scoring runs, you know, playing excellently, And you've
Speaker 2: got Gary Steed standing up in front of the media
Speaker 2: saying that Blundle's our guy, you know, and I think
Speaker 2: that must be quite demoralizing. In fact, I know it's demoralizing,
Speaker 2: and I know it's been talked about quite a bit,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean they've just locked into this. We
Speaker 2: keep on I keep on using this word anyway, dogmatic.
Speaker 2: They're just so dogmatic about their selections and you know
Speaker 2: blundaway come out in score hundred.
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to read Sam Wells actually said
Speaker 3: this week because they said, you know, why are you
Speaker 3: persisting with.
Speaker 4: Blundle at number six?
Speaker 3: And it was like, he's got this history of big
Speaker 3: partnerships with Daryl Mitchell at number five, that's literally the reason. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but if you look at the statistics on that, I
Speaker 3: think they actually, I know they've had some big partnerships
Speaker 3: against England in that series that we've lost three nil.
Speaker 3: But their partnership average is sort of about forty or fifty.
Speaker 3: It's not like they average a million, you know. And
Speaker 3: over the last year he's averaging less than all the
Speaker 3: batsmen and five of the bowlers as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to get to some correspondence sent
Speaker 1: to us by Andy Bairn, and I'm just going to
Speaker 1: cut to the end of it if you don't mind Fellers,
Speaker 1: because that's sort of relevant to what we've been talking about.
Speaker 1: And he says, oh, well, to the basin Blunder's Blundell
Speaker 1: needs a break, as does Devon sal He doesn't deserve
Speaker 1: a spot, regardless of him choosing this to be his
Speaker 1: last Test series. The way he threw away his wicket
Speaker 1: when he and Mitchell were going along quite nicely and
Speaker 1: Mitchell had maybe twenty to get to his tongue was
Speaker 1: typical of how he's been playing at the moment, recklessly and.
Speaker 2: Not well, yeah, well he's got points here. Would I'd
Speaker 2: be reluctant to put sow he's batting into the mix
Speaker 2: as to whether he's worthy of a spot or not.
Speaker 2: Mitchell was actually quite a lot further away than twenty
Speaker 2: from his tongue when Sowdy was trying to break the
Speaker 2: sixers record. The simple fact is that Sowdy can't defend
Speaker 2: down He's got no defensive technique as soon as someone
Speaker 2: bowls the ball.
Speaker 1: Which is weird, Why couln't you not defend?
Speaker 2: He's scared of the ball. He cannot play the bouncer.
Speaker 2: The only hope he has got against the short ball
Speaker 2: is to flick a few out of the ground and
Speaker 2: get them to go full at him again.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's funny you should say that, because when
Speaker 1: we were doing the commentary he really passed off with
Speaker 1: the short bowling, and he just stepped aside and went,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm having a tank. That's what I'm going
Speaker 1: to do is have a tank. That's all.
Speaker 2: So it looks ugly, but scoring twelve heading two sixes
Speaker 2: and getting caught on the boundary is actually more useful
Speaker 2: than getting hit on the tits a few times and
Speaker 2: then gloving one up to gully for six. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, how many sixes is he on now? Is
Speaker 1: it ninety three or ninety four? Ninety five?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Two more to get to seyweg Oh, he's past
Speaker 2: seweg isn't he He's got two more to get to
Speaker 2: Chris Gail. Imagine me sound they having more chest six
Speaker 2: is than Chris Gale. It's just ludicrous.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Well, so I tell you what I'm fizzing about this
Speaker 1: Basin test match. It's always a great sort of spectacle
Speaker 1: for our summerpool forward. What are you hoping for here?
Speaker 1: Apart from a victory?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, just another I'd like a close game,
Speaker 3: to be honest. I'm happy to take New Zealand. I
Speaker 3: don't want us to lose. I don't think it's going
Speaker 3: to be a drawer. I think there might be a
Speaker 3: bit of moisture around on Sunday, But despite the over
Speaker 3: eight finals, these two teams are just going to blaze
Speaker 3: through it and you four playing days, aren't they?
Speaker 4: Look I would love to see our beat it's coming
Speaker 4: to form.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see us drop fewer than three catches
Speaker 3: across the entire match, and I'd love to see km
Speaker 3: Williamson rack up another milestone, pets an enormous partnership with
Speaker 3: Devin Conway or Ratch and Revendra.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your hopes and dreams for the second
Speaker 1: test Heed Dylan, what do you want to.
Speaker 2: See our comprehensive victory?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'd like to see us.
Speaker 2: Win the toss insert England when it's still green. I'd
Speaker 2: like to see us run through as ball mentioned hold
Speaker 2: the catchers. Cain Williamson turn one of those delightful starts
Speaker 2: into another. Biggie Mitchell Sentner, Glenn Phillips pitch takes turn
Speaker 2: go through England. The second dig or wrapped up while
Speaker 2: I'm sitting on the bench at a trial at the
Speaker 2: Auckland District Court.
Speaker 1: Great stuff, mate, And with that we have a hunch
Speaker 1: for the game thanks to the tab and we are
Speaker 1: going for the hairy rav to be in the runs
Speaker 1: at home at the basin in the first innings, correct and.
Speaker 4: Versus paying five dollars eighty.
Speaker 3: So yeah, chuck one hundred bucks on that and we'll
Speaker 3: have five hundred and eighty dollars back. Thanks very much,
Speaker 3: and you can rely on us because we got it
Speaker 3: right last week. The silver lining of New Zealand getting
Speaker 3: pumped by England at Hagley was that our bet did
Speaker 3: come in Fellas Kam Williamson was the top score.
Speaker 1: Great stuff. I'll tell you what we'll take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be back shortly. Yes, welcome back to
Speaker 1: the BYC. So another test series which I've been love
Speaker 1: and I was pissed off there was such a big
Speaker 1: break between the test matches, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: So we've got the Basin Test going on, great times
Speaker 1: also Australia Versus India and the Pink Test Adelaide starts
Speaker 1: five pm Friday, Dyllion Clean, you're looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Beautiful times on again?
Speaker 1: How good?
Speaker 2: So you spend that last hour of the Basin Test
Speaker 2: kind of with half an eye on a second screen. Yes,
Speaker 2: maybe you're crick and for live updates, but you're still
Speaker 2: watching New Zealand and England and then you flick over
Speaker 2: immediately get your nacho's out there. A couple of vegetarian
Speaker 2: nats vegetarian nature.
Speaker 1: Vegetarian Sure, how long have you been a vegetarian for?
Speaker 2: Since I was about eighty months old? That's true story.
Speaker 4: Do you eat meat? Did you eat meat before that?
Speaker 2: Well? They my parents tried to feed me meat, but
Speaker 2: I kept on getting sick and it was neat was
Speaker 2: identified as the issue.
Speaker 1: Wow, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 2: Hell, you can do this.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Oh that's great stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: All I'm looking forward to that are Hazels, course out,
Speaker 1: injured bowl and the lightly replacement. What what the hell
Speaker 1: has happened to him? He was phenomenal when he packed
Speaker 1: his matches. His record was ridiculous and he just doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be in the mix anymore.
Speaker 2: He is here, obviously, they call him the horses for
Speaker 2: courses type bowl. I don't like nibbles a bird. He's
Speaker 2: not the classic Australian thump it and the deck hard,
Speaker 2: but he's more along the deck, kept the scene at
Speaker 2: the edge. So I think I mean he's there or
Speaker 2: there abouts. But that's a pretty tough lineup to true true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well has Everage's twenty point three in Test cricket
Speaker 3: ten matches, thirty five wickets. Yeah, and of course that
Speaker 3: ridiculous six for seven. But you know he's no spring
Speaker 3: chicken either. What he's nearly thirty six years old. And
Speaker 3: this is you know, this problem that Australia has is
Speaker 3: that they have been so consistent with their team that
Speaker 3: their succession planning is a bit shitty when they get
Speaker 3: a surprise injury like Josh Josh Hazerwood being out with
Speaker 3: the side strain. You know it's either Home or Sean
Speaker 3: Abbot or Brendan Doggett, but all got all of them
Speaker 3: over thirty.
Speaker 2: There is something wrong with Marsh tour, isn't there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not going to be bowling and this not
Speaker 1: able to bowl. Bou Chapeau added to the squad, never
Speaker 1: heard of him, meaning he is in line to be
Speaker 1: the first French born player to represent the Baggy Green.
Speaker 1: Are you taking the pass here again? Yes? I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew it, bou Chapa good head. Well that's because,
Speaker 1: funnily enough, I actually watched a lot of the first
Speaker 1: class Australian cricket and I was like chapone never bloody
Speaker 1: ahead of them.
Speaker 4: That's a typo.
Speaker 3: And he's he's thirty years old as well, thirty wickets
Speaker 3: and nine hundred runs in.
Speaker 4: The Sheffield Shield last summer.
Speaker 3: He used the bowl offspin now of course, just decided
Speaker 3: to bowl medium pace and yeah Marsh. If Marsh can't bowl,
Speaker 3: they'll want to have a you'd expect they want to
Speaker 3: have an all rounder in there. So he's the next
Speaker 3: cab off the rank.
Speaker 1: What's what's the story with Green at.
Speaker 2: The moment, Beck Indury right on for the season. I think.
Speaker 1: Okay, India on the other handed, embarrassment of Richard. Some
Speaker 1: players coming back into it, of course, Sharma, Gil, Judasia
Speaker 1: and Ashwyn. Yeah what what I mean? We were talking
Speaker 1: about how good then he opened in the second innings.
Speaker 1: I think it was first job on the first innings.
Speaker 2: K open both he opened both eggs.
Speaker 1: Okay, he looked good and right. Sharma's kind of been
Speaker 1: out of form where he was against us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got bad bone body language, whereas Boomera.
Speaker 1: Was superbos scape.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, tough choice of the male.
Speaker 3: Says that Sharma will bat down the order and they'll
Speaker 3: keep that opening partnership, which what they got two hundred
Speaker 3: and something in one of those innings, didn't they? So
Speaker 3: Sharma will dropped down the order. Subwarn Gillill come in,
Speaker 3: they'll drop Padakahal and Jerrell I think it is. And
Speaker 3: then a bit of speculation about Washington Sunda, a few
Speaker 3: calls for Judasia to get in there, but or Ashwin.
Speaker 3: But looking at the Prime Minister eleven game that they
Speaker 3: played in that annoying break, Jason, Judasia only bowl five
Speaker 3: overs and Ashwan didn't bowl at all, So if you
Speaker 3: were betting, apparently you would be betting that Washington Sundaw
Speaker 3: would retain his place. So yeah, the other the other
Speaker 3: bloke that they've got still waiting in the wings, and
Speaker 3: I had I had a look. It's pretty hard case
Speaker 3: Mohammad Shami. He's still in India with a stuffed ankle.
Speaker 3: But you've literally got media state picking out his house
Speaker 3: like a papal conclave, waiting for the smoke to come
Speaker 3: out of the chimney that he's going to be okay
Speaker 3: and flow into the to Australia to join the Ashes
Speaker 3: sorry the border Givasca squad after Christmas.
Speaker 4: So yeah, only only in India.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's extraordinary to think when you really put your
Speaker 1: mind to it, that plays like Ashwyn, who has a
Speaker 1: phenomenal record Judasia likewise, you know, struggling to get in
Speaker 1: the side. I almost get the feeling that Ashwyn is
Speaker 1: quite unpopular, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I remember what.
Speaker 2: I've been listening to Chimpagne.
Speaker 1: Well, Chimpagne, he was not even your teammates, like your mate,
Speaker 1: you know, is there is there something about because he's
Speaker 1: a prickly customer on the field. Umpires must hate him,
Speaker 1: I reckon they must go, oh God, because he's always
Speaker 1: he's always gesticulating. He's always sort of talking to the
Speaker 1: skipper or the umpire. What was wrong with that kind
Speaker 1: of thing? What is the story there?
Speaker 2: My understanding is he's not a particularly popular character, but
Speaker 2: neither it's a coach Brandy that Gautam Gambia is complete
Speaker 2: pain in the ass too, So.
Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating they deal.
Speaker 2: With these things. You don't have to. What's the old
Speaker 2: thing that the All Blacks always fall back on, the
Speaker 2: nove dickeads policy. Yes, you don't have to have that
Speaker 2: in every team in the world.
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Speaker 1: Now Philip Hughes fellas ten years ago away?
Speaker 3: You go, yeah, well, I mean, I guess, just to
Speaker 3: remind us, I've got it's scary that it's ten years ago.
Speaker 3: What was he twenty five years old, got strang, kind
Speaker 3: of struck by that bouncer on the side of the
Speaker 3: head playing that Shield game, mister hook, cerebral hemorrhage after surgery.
Speaker 4: Rushed to hospital.
Speaker 3: I think it all happened at the SCG from memory
Speaker 3: and you know, really a massive, massive funeral at his
Speaker 3: hometown of Maxville, A small town country boy who was
Speaker 3: absolutely beloved. And you know, I've seen a few pieces
Speaker 3: of this written over the last week or so, just
Speaker 3: saying yeah, Now, every time you see a player get
Speaker 3: hit in the head, you think of Philip Hughes and
Speaker 3: you think what could happen and it's yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: it cast a shadow over the game in a way
Speaker 3: and made us realize, you know, the element of danger
Speaker 3: that people take on when they go out there and
Speaker 3: face these frightening bowlers. Some lovely words from his family,
Speaker 3: you know that they said that Philip was a small
Speaker 3: town country boy. Australian test one day and T twenty cricketer.
Speaker 3: He played on the toughest pictures around the globe, alongside
Speaker 3: the toughest of cricketers on the world stage, but he
Speaker 3: never forgot where he came from and who helped along
Speaker 3: the way. And you know, I think there was a
Speaker 3: line this is the New Zealand connection, I think, and
Speaker 3: I'm projecting this, but I know Brendan McCullum had a
Speaker 3: I don't know if he knew and particularly well or
Speaker 3: they seem to connect, but he had a line which said,
Speaker 3: where would you rather be boys than playing cricket for
Speaker 3: your country? And I feel like that's something that Brendan
Speaker 3: McCullum has brought into the New Zealand environment and he's
Speaker 3: doing it now for England.
Speaker 1: Fantastic had a tragedy that was and he was fondly
Speaker 1: remembered and it continues to be fondly remembered. A significant
Speaker 1: decision Fellers immediately facing the ICC is the venue of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Champions Trophy, which is supposed to
Speaker 1: be in Pakistan.
Speaker 2: Dylan Kleaver, Yeah, so India refusing to travel there basically
Speaker 2: in Pakistan and not willing to compromise either because they said, now,
Speaker 2: hang on a minute, we sent our team to the
Speaker 2: World Cup in India. We didn't make any demands about
Speaker 2: playing that at neutral venues or on our home chef.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's all sorts of geopolitical implications. Yeah, although
Speaker 2: Paul kind of cut through that last week didn't said, well, no,
Speaker 2: I think India had just been pricks.
Speaker 3: Really, yes, I think the latest on that is that
Speaker 3: it sounds like India will play at a neutral venue,
Speaker 3: but Pakistan want a cast iron guarantee that when they
Speaker 3: when India are hosting tournaments, Pakistan get to go and
Speaker 3: play at a neutral venue too, So it's a quid
Speaker 3: pro quo.
Speaker 2: The whole bizarre thing about this is just how important
Speaker 2: that Pakistan India matchup is, like they have to. One
Speaker 2: of the whole reasons the whole pool thing at the
Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup is demolished or dismantled was because the
Speaker 2: broadcasters in India and the subcontinent, who paid billions of
Speaker 2: rupees for it, had to guarantee there would be a
Speaker 2: Pakistan India matchup. So everyone loves the drama of it,
Speaker 2: but they just I guess the security implications for political
Speaker 2: implications mean that it's become fodder really for politicians.
Speaker 4: It's madness.
Speaker 3: The tournament's on in seventy seven days and there's no schedule.
Speaker 3: We don't even know which country it's being played in.
Speaker 1: It's extraordinary crazy stuff, all right, a moment as our hack,
Speaker 1: isn't it? But anyway his record West Indies versus are
Speaker 1: the Bangers and Kingston Jamaica.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the ban has actually won that test this morning,
Speaker 2: so the series has won one. They won it quite
Speaker 2: convincing me. But along the way, mominal Hak has achieved
Speaker 2: a dubious record of becoming the you got a pair
Speaker 2: becoming the batter with the most ducks for Bangladesh. And
Speaker 2: I guess the thing that makes that noteworthy is like
Speaker 2: in most countries, it'll be someone like a Danny Morrison
Speaker 2: will hand the record on to a Chris Martin who
Speaker 2: might eventually hand the record onto a Will O'Rourke. Mominal
Speaker 2: Hawk is the top water batter so and funnily enough,
Speaker 2: he took the record from a guy called Mohammad Ashraful
Speaker 2: who ended up getting done for spot fixing, I believe,
Speaker 2: but who was also a top order betner.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty tough there go well, let's look at
Speaker 1: the local game the Plunket Shield. Round three completed the
Speaker 1: Otago Vaults three oh one for nine declared and two
Speaker 1: thirty one Northern District's Men three sixty five and one
Speaker 1: forty five for two. Match drawn, Wellington fire Birds two
Speaker 1: fifty one for nine declared and two seventeen Central Stags
Speaker 1: three oh two and one sixty seven for one. Stags
Speaker 1: one by nine wickets in the Auckland Aces five hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty seven for nine declared, Canterbury four four six
Speaker 1: for three, the match drawn. The Nodles brett Hampton and
Speaker 1: Northern Districts one hundred and twenty one off eighty six balls.
Speaker 1: Mark Chapman for Auckland of course two seventy six, Reese
Speaker 1: Marry You, Marry You, Central one eighty five and Harvey
Speaker 1: Nichols one oh three not out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it was Canbury one eighty five. It's a
Speaker 2: second big big Ton Canterbury. Sorry, yes, executive matches. He's
Speaker 2: scored a big double the previous round. Evidently that game,
Speaker 2: which is one of the few games Auckland actually get
Speaker 2: to play in Auckland this summer. It was a bit
Speaker 2: of a joke given me that wicket was as flat
Speaker 2: as you're ever gonna find. Chapman obviously enjoyed it, Mary
Speaker 2: and Nichols clearly enjoyed it. But I've noticed a little
Speaker 2: bit and kind of message boards you saw a message
Speaker 2: boards these days and social media that there's a bit
Speaker 2: of a I wouldn't say it's a clamoring, but there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of a groundswell for Reece Mary to
Speaker 2: be considered for the givin Conway spot maybe, but good
Speaker 2: on him stacking up big runs together. You're going to
Speaker 2: be in a conversation, but I think you've got to
Speaker 2: do more than have a good week in the blanket
Speaker 2: Shield when one of them's on the Eden Park out
Speaker 2: of Opal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, he's a he's a he's out of St
Speaker 3: Andrew's College too. Is that he played in the same
Speaker 3: course he has Team twenty nineteen. I think they were
Speaker 3: with Folks and Jesse Frew who's the wikie keeper batsman
Speaker 3: from Kennbury. So yeah, pretty decent pedigree there, but as
Speaker 3: you say, very early days but definitely definitely one to watch.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Golden Box Rhyes, Marrio four hundred and thirty three.
Speaker 1: Nick Caley from Wellington three eighty eight Cheat Raval member him.
Speaker 2: I do remember him. It was the last one that
Speaker 2: actually got dropped for former shoes.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, maybe chuck him back in the three twenty
Speaker 1: five The Silver Sweat Band Brett Hampton thirteen, Blair Techna
Speaker 1: thirteen De.
Speaker 2: Ferned Dendrew Fernstters.
Speaker 1: And jdmmckay twelve. The Table at the Moment, Northern District's
Speaker 1: forty six, Central thirty nine, Cannbury thirty three, Auckland twenty five,
Speaker 1: Wellington nineteen and Dylan Cleaver's favorite side Otago on eighteen.
Speaker 2: Just a little bit like you didn't quite make the
Speaker 2: Golden Box. But Dane Cleaver is having a cracking season
Speaker 2: there too. He's got more than three hundred runs, averaging
Speaker 2: more than one hundred scored, plus fifty three of the
Speaker 2: four bats. I mean there's a straight swap if you
Speaker 2: if you want to just spick a team that's more
Speaker 2: likely to succeed at the moment and the other central.
Speaker 2: I'm giving Central some love here because the selectors never do.
Speaker 2: The other central guy to keep an eye on is
Speaker 2: Dame Cleaver's heir apparent, who's opening the batting for them.
Speaker 2: At the moment is a guy called Curtis Heathey, and
Speaker 2: he hasn't had an amazing start of the season, but
Speaker 2: he got runs in that second dig and that win
Speaker 2: against Wellington. And I know there's a lot of frustration
Speaker 2: in Central that Mitch Hay has been anointed as Tom
Speaker 2: Bundle's successor, and they think down there with some justification
Speaker 2: that their current guy is better, which is Dame Cleaver,
Speaker 2: and the next Feller might be even better. Still.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm looking at a picture here, supers Nae
Speaker 1: retro outfits.
Speaker 2: Nice, don't you reckon? I'd be happy to wear them.
Speaker 1: Yea, they're pretty cool. Actually, I'd were one of those
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: Down the Viaed act to one of those bars.
Speaker 1: It's full of wankers.
Speaker 2: The only shir I wouldn't wear as a Canniby won.
Speaker 2: But I think they're quite nice.
Speaker 4: A Sergan fan be in the middle there.
Speaker 1: It looks like the CEO, Hey tell you what, it's
Speaker 1: time for pull Ford's News or os.
Speaker 4: J is the reigning champion here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the segments getting changed to pull Ford's Stitch Up
Speaker 2: Weekly Stitch Up.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought Jason was amazing with us.
Speaker 3: Thank you amazing as knowledge of woman's anatomy last week anyway,
Speaker 3: three things that something wrong with one of them?
Speaker 4: Tell me what it is.
Speaker 3: A baggy green test cap worn by Australia's Don Bradman
Speaker 3: sold for three hundred and ninety thousand Ossie dollars at
Speaker 3: auction this week. It's collector's vibe to own a rare
Speaker 3: piece of cricketing history. The tented garment, almost eighty years old,
Speaker 3: was sun faded and showed signs of.
Speaker 4: Insect damage and had a torn peak.
Speaker 3: Auction house Bottoms said Bradman wore the cap during the
Speaker 3: nineteen four seven eight tour of Australia by India. This
Speaker 3: was his last test series on home soil. The auction
Speaker 3: lasted ten minutes. Barnums said it was the only known
Speaker 3: baggy green worn by Bradman during the series, in which
Speaker 3: he scored seven hundred and fifteen runs at an average
Speaker 3: of a lazy one.
Speaker 4: Hundred and seventy nine. Jesus.
Speaker 3: The cat was said to have been given to Pankajh
Speaker 3: Peter Kumar Gupta, India's tour manager in nineteen forty eight,
Speaker 3: and number two Zach and Jacob Cummings. Dad Craig has
Speaker 3: been appointed as the head coach of the Blaze in
Speaker 3: the East Midlands for their first season as part of
Speaker 3: England's Tier one woman's domestic comp coming and enjoyed success
Speaker 3: in his home country with Otago Sparks, leading them to
Speaker 3: two fifty over Halle Burton Johnstone titles in four years.
Speaker 3: He will arrive in the UK and the new year
Speaker 3: after the conclusion of the Super Smash T twenty competition.
Speaker 3: I feel very humbled and privileged, he said. Cumming's appointment
Speaker 3: comes after Chris Rogers coached the Blaze to their first
Speaker 3: piece of silverware in last season's Charlotte Edward's Cup. He
Speaker 3: left to take charge of the England Women's Under nineteens.
Speaker 3: The Blaze CEO said they conducted an exhaustive global search
Speaker 3: to find the best candidate.
Speaker 4: And number three.
Speaker 3: Former South African left arm fast bowler Lonoabo Subi, along
Speaker 3: with Fami Solicily and Ethie Malati, have been arrested and
Speaker 3: charged with multiple counts of corruption related to their involvement
Speaker 3: in a match fixing scandal during the Ram Slam T
Speaker 3: twenty Challenge, a domestic T twenty league in South Africa.
Speaker 3: The charges alleged that the players either accepted or agreed
Speaker 3: to accept improper gratification in exchange for actions that can
Speaker 3: rise the integrity of the sport. In English, the players
Speaker 3: are accused of collaborating with Indian bookmakers to influence match outcomes.
Speaker 4: Here we go, there's are three things.
Speaker 1: Thank your first today, Dylan.
Speaker 2: That sounds a really light price for Don Bradman cap, though,
Speaker 2: so seeps. Yeah, I will go for that one. I'll
Speaker 2: go the Don Bradman cap surely gets more than a
Speaker 2: pidly three hundred and nine thousand.
Speaker 1: Ninety Actually that was it. I'll go for the same story.
Speaker 1: Did you say what can you do that? Yeah, for
Speaker 1: a different reason. Did you say Paul Ford that it
Speaker 1: was his last home series?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm saying it wasn't. Oh, okay, well you're both incorrect.
Speaker 3: The former coach it's number two coming appointment does not
Speaker 3: follow Chris Rodgers, the ginger head Australian opening Batsman. But
Speaker 3: some random I've never heard of called Christopher Guest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a film director, isn't he?
Speaker 1: That's a world guest.
Speaker 2: Didn't you do the one about the Craft style show
Speaker 2: and spinal tap? The spinal tap?
Speaker 4: Wasn't he oh maybe I don't know. I'm not that old.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 2: I had a note with Chris Rodgers there too, but
Speaker 2: then I thought, no, it's probably right the trophy.
Speaker 1: You write it down, the trophy says with hardy Jay.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Dylan, it goes to.
Speaker 4: I'll take it to the base.
Speaker 1: Hey. But right now it's time for the ever popular
Speaker 1: Dylan Cleavers. Who am I?
Speaker 4: It's Dylan Cleavers, who am I? Yes?
Speaker 2: Last week the answer was Luke Ronkey of course, born
Speaker 2: in Denny Virke, which literally translates to Dane's work, which
Speaker 2: was the huge fortification entrenchment dug across the Danish Smith
Speaker 2: to protect against the marauding Saxons. But of course I'm
Speaker 2: telling you nothing you don't already know there.
Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, man, I knew that.
Speaker 2: Denny Vick. Interestingly enough, was also the birthplace of the
Speaker 2: celebrated You're in Chatfield and the less celebrated Queens and
Speaker 2: Premier Joe Bielke Peterson and.
Speaker 4: The even less celebrated John Parker I believe.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe his brother Mary too, who knows, And there
Speaker 2: brother Kenneth. That was a win. Anyway, I'm giving the win.
Speaker 2: We had the usual suspects Matt Parker and Lockey and
Speaker 2: his dad obviously got it right. But I'm giving the
Speaker 2: win to Rob Connell, who said we love him here
Speaker 2: in Perth. So anyway, this week who am I? I
Speaker 2: compiled one of the most extraordinary Test careers in New
Speaker 2: Zealand history, if only for the fact that was built
Speaker 2: upon the flimsiest of pretexts. I played just sixteen days
Speaker 2: of first class cricket in total, yet managed to squeeze
Speaker 2: two Tests into that. Yes, you heard me correctly. My
Speaker 2: rapid elevation was based almost entirely on an eighteen wicket
Speaker 2: hall in a club game while representing the first eleven
Speaker 2: of New Zealand's oldest state school. After that headline grabbing feet,
Speaker 2: I had to go into Ireland to play for my
Speaker 2: home team in the Plunket Shield. I took a five
Speaker 2: for on my first class debut against Auckland and that
Speaker 2: was enough to see me selected to play the NCC,
Speaker 2: as England's touring team was known in those days, controversially
Speaker 2: picked ahead of a bloke whose Christian names were der
Speaker 2: went Rahl. I didn't enjoy a lot of success, but
Speaker 2: then again, who did. What was notable was that, following
Speaker 2: that series, I played just one more first class game.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be forgotten, however, because a few years later,
Speaker 2: a floppy heired spinner with the middle name of Luca
Speaker 2: would break my most cherished record. Need one more clue,
Speaker 2: Here's a little sweetener for you. I was an employee
Speaker 2: of the Colonial Sugar Refinery. My work took me to
Speaker 2: Fiji for twenty years, where I managed the national cricket team,
Speaker 2: then back to Sydney where I died not far from
Speaker 2: Wentce I was born.
Speaker 4: Who am I?
Speaker 2: You've got no idea? I can tell what it up
Speaker 2: in your face?
Speaker 1: Not a clue, Not a clue.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think I do know? Was his
Speaker 3: brother in Shawshank redemption?
Speaker 2: Ah, very good, very good?
Speaker 1: Okay, right now it's time for Paul Wards cricket violence corner.
Speaker 1: Poor Forwards cricket violence corner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty low level petty theft this week, no blood
Speaker 3: Sport after the eye curdling photo of the poor cricket
Speaker 3: umpire until this week, police are investigating the theft of
Speaker 3: several items from Hagley Oval during the first Test match.
Speaker 3: UK broadcast to Talk Sport reported it had two cameras stolen,
Speaker 3: which meant it could not provide images of the day
Speaker 3: three of the.
Speaker 4: Cricket test on its YouTube channels.
Speaker 3: The venue owner, Venues Ototahi, who I think have banned
Speaker 3: the Alternaive Commentary collective from being at the ground, confirmed
Speaker 3: there was a security breach and the cameras were among
Speaker 3: several items taken from a locked area. Some of the
Speaker 3: things we are aware of are some venues Oto Tahi
Speaker 3: technology equipment like laptops, a TV, alcohol and some food.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a really high level operation.
Speaker 3: Venues Ototahi chief executive Caroline Harvey Tear said the company
Speaker 3: has twenty four to seven security at the site, but
Speaker 3: was disappointed the break and occurred. It was all locked up.
Speaker 3: Obviously we're concerned about what's happened. This is not something
Speaker 3: that's happened before, certainly not on my watch and not
Speaker 3: in my tenure.
Speaker 4: So there we go.
Speaker 3: Hopefully there's they're good buggers from talkSPORT to get their
Speaker 3: kept back, or at least you can get to a
Speaker 3: shop and stock up in time for the basin.
Speaker 2: Was I the only thing stolen the oval that week?
Speaker 2: Either a bit of pride and a few reputations as well.
Speaker 1: Shofty boom, Hey, thanks for taking the time to listen
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Speaker 1: Dylan, what's going on in the bounds? Mate?
Speaker 2: You can catch up with mytuperative thoughts on the cricket
Speaker 2: as daily at the moment with notes from the Oval,
Speaker 2: although I guess next week it will be note or
Speaker 2: this week it will be notes from the reserve or
Speaker 2: the basin. So yeah, sign up, Dalan Cleave dot subsec
Speaker 2: dot com. Let's free.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's hope next time we join you you
Speaker 1: join us. I mean we've got bitter news. Let's up
Speaker 1: for a more comprehensive performance from our fellas and leveling
Speaker 1: up the series. Eh. Until then, you take care and
Speaker 1: we'll see you later.