1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the B Y and C Podcast, brought to 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: you by Max Rath Premium insulated concrete slabs, and sadly 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: we find ourselves reflecting on a somewhat baffling performance from 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: the black Caps. After the obvious highs of the tour 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: to India, there were hopes to form would continue through 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: to the English series. Instead, we found ourselves with a 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: bad case of the dropsies. There is no logical explanation 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: as to why this would manifest. We know this side 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: is infinitely capable in the field, as evidenced by our 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: stunning performance in the first innings of the first Test 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: against India. The reality is you can't give the likes 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: of Harry Brooks four chances and not expect to be punished. 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: What's clear is the black Caps need to be at 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: the top of their game if they have any chance 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: of complete out competing against the English and Dylan Cleaver, 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: I know you've heard the phrase the yips, yeah, and 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: usually that refers to golfs an individual who suddenly gets 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: the yips? Is there such a thing as the collective yips? 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Where teams start dropping catches and like a virus, it 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: infects everyone and people start tensing up. Is there such 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: a thing, because it's weird how that happens, isn't it 22 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: How a few catches a mess and all of a 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: sudden it becomes a plague. Almost. 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't think so, would you, Because some of 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 2: the guys dropping those catches are our most reliable fielders exactly. 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: Tom Latham is an excellent fielder. But there is one 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: thing that really bugs me about this. And just allow 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: me a little rent for a second. 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: But we were anticipating it, Paul. 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: I cannot I cannot stand this thought. 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: I actually thought Dylan might be quite happy with that performance, 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: So I'm actually intrigued to hear what he might have 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: to say. 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: I cannot stand the narrative that has a merged from 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: Scary Head and Tom Latham that things could have been 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: so different if we just held those catches. Well, they 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: didn't hold those catches correct. Things could have been so 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: different if Tom Latham had turned US forty seven into 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty seven, but he didn't do that either. 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: Things could have been so different if the plane carrying 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: England to New Zealand clipped the remarkables instead of landing 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: next to John Davies Oval, but it didn't like, it's 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: not bad luck that you drop catches. It's bad cricket. 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: And everything seems to have been washed away from Hagley Oval. 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: But oh you know, if those catches had stuck, things 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: would have been so different. Yeah, they might have been, 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: but you didn't. I own it, own your mistakes. 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Dylan. I wholeheartedly agree with you. And you know, 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: it's almost interesting, wasn't it, Paul, That the lead that 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: they got over us, which in the end was crucial, 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: was almost directly connected to drop catchers. And and Dylan's right, 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: you can't say, oh, you know, we didn't hold our catchers. 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: If that hadn't happened, it would have been a close 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: test match. He's exactly right. You didn't hold those catches, 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: you drop them, and so that's the game. And if 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: you don't, you know, take your chances, you lose. 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it is that point. You know, 58 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: it's sort of unlucky. You know, it's not like you 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: lost the toss or it rained when you were when 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: you were about to catch the ball. It wasn't it 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: wasn't luck. It wasn't about luck. It was it was 62 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: a skill based balls up. So yeah, look it was 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: really really frustrating, and I said it on the a 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: SEC commentary over the weekend, but it just feels like 65 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: this is what this game is going to be remembered for. 66 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: Not Brooks runs or cast As wickets. 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: Or you know, the the emergence of the of the 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: prodigy Jacob Ethel or Nathan Smith's debut or whatever. You know, 69 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: all of these sort of things around that game. It's 70 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: going to be remembered for, Oh, that was that bloody 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: terrible game when you Dealan dropped eight catchers and I 72 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: guess the guy I felt sorry for were Smith three 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: times three catches dropped off his bowling, Willow Rourke three 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: catches dropped off his bowling, plus Matt Henry and Glenn 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: Phillips eight exactly eight chances. And we absolutely let England 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: off the hook from one hundred and you know we 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: did it when we were betting, which we can talk 78 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: about in a minute. I'm sure you know we were 79 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety nine for three in that first 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: innings and we absolutely did it, you know with the 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: betting when sorry with the bowling and the fielding off 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: it when England was seventy one for four in their 83 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: first innings. Yeah, just a really, really frustrating game. 84 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: It's inexplicable in a way because as I mentioned, you know, 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: you think about that first innings against India, Well, we 86 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: were utterly magnificent in the field, so we know we 87 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: can do it. And we know, as you mentioned, Dylan, 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: these are good players that are dropping the catchers. So 89 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: what the hell is it? But you know, when the 90 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: Test match started off, I thought England bowl poorly. I 91 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: thought they were too short, they weren't getting it up there, 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: and they weren't making the New Zealanders pay. And you know, 93 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: we took sort of full advantage and we got ourselves 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: in premium sort of situation. 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: Well wait, not full advantage, not full advantage, some advantage. 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: Some advantage, and then we blew it. And you know, 97 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: it's my feeling that England has the ward on us. 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: I think of that series in England where we were 99 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: competitive and every single Test match and lost every single 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Test match. They came here, did us again apart from 101 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: that final Test where we kind of stole it, miracled it, Yeah, 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: miracled it. So we have to be at our absolute 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: best to compete with these guys and we simply weren't. 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's five out of six tests England have beatn 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: New Zealand and pretty much convincingly. Like, yes, you did 106 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: mention we were in those Tests in England, but it 107 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: was still five wickets, five wickets, seven wickets. Yes on 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: the scorecard. That's a bit of a thumbing to be honest, 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: but yeah, Look, I like the fact you brought up 110 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: that first innings England when the task that's meant to 111 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: be a massive advantage at Hegley. They did in bowl 112 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: particularly well. I thought Chris Wolkes was worse than average, 113 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: he was very Tom Latham battered like a dream and 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: I guess my disappointment with that is that forty seven 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: could have, should have might have been one hundred and 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: forty seven. He was batting that well and he went 117 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: out to that frustrating thing that he does where he 118 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: looks to work the ball wider mid on through midwicket, 119 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: when you know the maker's name back past the bowler, 120 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: you know who knows what he could have done. He 121 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: loves batting. It had be able. That's a critical factor 122 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: for me is that there hasn't got enough attention. I 123 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: don't think granted, India was a bowler series, but that 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: is now eight tests New Zealand have gone and they've 125 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: scored one century and that eight Test span that's fifteen 126 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: completed innings. I'm not counting the one where they chased 127 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: down one hundred, yeah, because you don't get a chance 128 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: to get a century obviously, but fifteen completed innings where 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: only ratcheans hundred at Bengalou is the only three figure score. 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: Tom Latham has gone thirty three Test innings without a 131 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: Test century. Yeah, that's an enormous amount of innings. You'd 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: never last in Australia with that sort of number. Conway's 133 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: gone twenty eight. That's your two openers, the bedrock of 134 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: your team. You add those numbers up as extraordinary. Really. 135 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Williamson ten innings, which is not many, but it's still 136 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: blow path for him. Revenge is the only one who 137 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: can be excused. He got that one in Benglaru. He's 138 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: gone six innings. Mitchell's gone twenty two completed innings without 139 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: a ton. Tom Blundell, we'll get to him soon, twenty 140 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: six innings. Ben Phillips hasn't scored a Test century yet. 141 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he's limited opportunities. And if we think Will 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: Young's the savior. As much as I love Will Young, 143 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: he's had thirty two innings himself without a test century. 144 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: So there's a real lack of theft in that top seven. 145 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that last week where they said, you. 146 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 2: Know, am I repeating myself? 147 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: No? No, But you made the point. I think it was 148 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: in reference to an artist call, which was this is 149 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: because of the batting depth in New Zealand cricket, and 150 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: you went, well, no, hang on, And I've been thinking 151 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: and pondering this to Paul Forward and I want to 152 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: draw your attention to it. And that is Conway. You know, he, 153 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: I guess had a few knocks in India. He was 154 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure. I'm not convict, and he 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: looked all at sea, let's be honest, in India. But 156 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: he did get some runs. But I'm not convinced that 157 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: he's an Emmy kind of form and he still has 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: that inclination, that little inside edge, that back coming just 159 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: outside the off stump and leaving that gap between the 160 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: bat and the pad. I'm not convinced about Conway still, 161 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: and I still don't know that he's in great neck. 162 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: They pissed off and him there and he looks increasingly 163 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: frosh straighted. 164 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 4: I mean I had a quick look. 165 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: I think he's last twelve months, I think nine bats 166 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: averaging twenty one against the sort of overall average of 167 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: thirty eight thirty nine, rapidly declining overall average. Yeah, he 168 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: is really really battling, and frankly he was. You know, 169 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: he didn't get out to a particularly good ball. He 170 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: got out to a good court and bold opportunity in 171 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: that first innings, but it was one of a number 172 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: of I don't know, just lack of daisical wickets, you know, 173 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: ratch and hitting a. 174 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: Full toss to midwicket. 175 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: Mitchell got a leading edge, blundle, lazy slap to point 176 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: Smith Henry Southy show or whatever they do what they do. 177 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's that frustration of the guys that are 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: good getting in and they're not going on to score 179 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: the big scores. And then, yes, I agree, it does 180 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: feel like Conway's been worked out by good international bowlers. 181 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting, you know what do we end 182 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: up with in the end in that first innings three 183 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: forty eight. You know, for it it should have been 184 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: been but I was like, okay, it's there or thereabouts. 185 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: I think Henry sal the O'Rourke and Psmith are going 186 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: to bowl well and better than this England did on 187 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: this wicket. We had them in trouble, but you simply 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: can't give a player of Harry Brook's class that many chances. 189 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to the point where I was even 190 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: I was asking the question, is he actually even betting? Well? Sure, 191 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: I didn't actually even think he was betting particularly well. 192 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: He was thumping the ball quite effectively, but thumping it 193 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: in the air to field is quite often as well. 194 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: So you know, it was a weird It was a 195 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: weird test, and even feels weird talking about this now, 196 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: because you know, we've just come off the greatest series 197 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: in New Zealand history, American series, and it feels like 198 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: we've gone from boom to bust very quickly. And I'm 199 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: wondering if we're overreacting to this, if if the drop 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: catches such a visceral feeling of frustration that it kind 201 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: of leaks or leeches into all your thinking about the 202 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: game because we bet it. Okay, you win the you 203 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: lose the toss, and you first straight back into it, 204 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 2: it's okay. And even the second innings, Paul's dead right. 205 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Some of the wickets were almost comical. How does show 206 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: upsher get four wickets in that first and on the 207 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: first is at Oval? 208 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 209 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: And another point, did we make a mistake not playing 210 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: a spinner? 211 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I was wondering that too. 212 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: Looking very samey same, weren't we? 213 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I you know, in terms of we look at 214 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: that performance against India took everyone by surprised. It was stunning. 215 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I've kind of felt like we're back in the place 216 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: we were before that Test series where we were all going, well, 217 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: it's a bit gloomy, it's a bit sort of, you know, 218 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: not great. I want to get your thoughts Paul Ford 219 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: on Smith. I like the cut of his jib. I 220 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: think he's going to bring something to the game. I've 221 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: never seen him play before. He looks a very handy 222 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: bowler and he looks a very handy batsman to me. 223 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: And I like the look of him, but of an 224 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: issue with no balls and so forth, But I think 225 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: he's got something to offer. 226 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree. 227 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: He looked he looked busy, looked full of a VENGEI 228 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: looked pumped up. He looked like Ian, both of them 229 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: as well, with his mullet and his mustache, and you 230 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: know credit for that as well. Yeah, I don't think 231 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: he did a lot wrong. As I say, created a 232 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: bunch of opportunities. For get Joe Route out for a 233 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: duck in your first spell in test cricket, you're probably 234 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: doing something right. Bettered nicely in the second innings. Looks 235 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: very comfortable. I think Dylan's mentioned the fact that he's 236 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: a he's a bloody good athlete. You know, he's a 237 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: he's fit as a fiddle. Yeah, it looks looks like 238 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: they've picked the right guy. And the interesting thing maybe 239 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: we'll talk about it in a sec is is he 240 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: even going to be there at the base? 241 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: Probably not. 242 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the other thing. Brighton cass Yep, he 243 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: will the cast blaster he reminded me of it's bloody 244 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: gone out of my head now. Hammerson, Harmerson, he has 245 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: that same kind of He looked the most threatening of 246 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: their bowlers. I agree with you. I thought Whites was 247 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: woeful in that first innings, but I looked at this guy. 248 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: He's got height, he hits the deer card, looks a 249 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: good bowler. And he proved problematic for us. 250 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: He kind of looks like he could be a roadie 251 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: your guitar check. Sure for a hard rock band too, 252 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: doesn't He's got that kind of look about him. But yeah, awkward. 253 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: And the same with Gus Akinson, who wasn't particularly good 254 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: on that first innings either because he kept on having 255 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: no ball problems and his Him and Stokes were beside 256 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: themselves with their front foot slipping on that front front line. Yes, 257 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: but Atkinson and cast together I think, you know, it's 258 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: always you've always got to have a caveat there with 259 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: fast bowling attacks. A lot depends on injuries, but those 260 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: two did look quite menacing and awkward. Guess still we 261 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 2: had our chances. 262 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: Stunning statistic stunning statistic about Casts. I don't know if 263 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: you saw this that he's the first England baseballer to 264 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: take ten wickets away from England in sixteen years. 265 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: Wow, unreal. 266 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: He's got nineteen wickets and three Tests, and nine of 267 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: those wickets were in Pakistan, hardly a mecca. 268 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: For bowling of his style. You would have. 269 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: Thought absolutely there was a lot of chat about the 270 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: young fellow Jacob Bethel. Yeah, I think absolutely, and I 271 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: also it was a situation in that second innings where 272 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: it was like I almost felt like they sort of said, 273 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: all right, young was a freebie. You've got nothing to 274 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: lose here, just have a crack. And so he had 275 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: that freedom, you know what I mean. But he does 276 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: look at prospect. 277 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've gone to town on that second innings in England, Yes, 278 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: if they've just uncovered lost Leonardo. I didn't think it 279 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: was that good. I think the first innings was probably 280 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more instructive where he actually battled pretty hard, yes, 281 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: but then went out to a good nut. Yeah. I 282 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: mean like it was a decent game for the number three's, 283 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: wasn't it. Our own one was pretty handy too. 284 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, and let's talk about Caine. Williamson 285 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: just slided right back in ninety odd in that first 286 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: ninety three I think it was nine thousand test runs 287 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: clearly our best and Paul forward he showed it. Just 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: to just shame he didn't go on with it in 289 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: that first innings. 290 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: Yes, scratched around a little bit at the start of 291 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: the innings, as caanees want to do, but then he 292 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: just started to look increasingly assured. It's like he's just 293 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: going through a net session and warming into his work. 294 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: And yeah, just say first, keeping it to nine thousand runs. 295 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: And I don't really care about nine thousand because ten 296 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: thousands just seems so much cooler. So hopefully, hopefully he's 297 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: still around, you know, just to me, thousands a bit 298 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,479 Speaker 3: like one hundred and fifty. It's not really worth celebrating. 299 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: But gee, he's what's he now, thirteen hundred runs ahead 300 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: of Ross Taylor. 301 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: Something like that. 302 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: Yes, almost starting to mow down, starting to mow down 303 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: some of the big dogs of world cricket. 304 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: That's the sort of thing I would have expected Cleaver 305 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: to say. Not you, Paul Ford. I thought you would 306 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: have been frothing at the mouth about the fact that 307 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: he got nine thousand tests runs. I would have thought 308 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: Cleaver was the one that went on. He had nine 309 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: thousand cares. All right, So there we are. Let's look 310 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: ahead to the second Test. Have been an audio for 311 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: many Oh yes, okay, let's go to it. 312 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: We're up for media today, which would suggest that you're playing. 313 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: Have you been given the nord No? 314 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 5: I was a look at the pitch. Looks pretty green 315 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: to me, But. 316 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: It seems the spins mate, you know, I love that shameworn. 317 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: No, obviously we'll wait and see. You know, obviously a 318 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: few days out looks pretty green at the moment. 319 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: So but yeah, well, last time your ball with the 320 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: reborn Test matches, you've got thirteen wickets. 321 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: How much of a rosy glowe you carry into your 322 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: next test potentially on Friday. 323 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: Wow, it could be a lot different conditions, I'd imagine. 324 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 5: I think if it was like would be pretty happy. 325 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, obviously, I guess it was just great to 326 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: be part of that series. You know, all three games 327 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 5: were pretty different and everyone chipping at different times, which 328 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: you know is good, good for the squad and it's 329 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: good for I guess for us to go forward and yeah, 330 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 5: obviously look to turn around the last pretick. 331 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the gossip is then that Santana may be 332 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: coming in for Smith. 333 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems likely. I mean, if you're just going 334 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: purely on what they brought to the table at Hagley, 335 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: I'd be more tempted to drop Suvie than yeah Smith, 336 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: But I just don't think they're going to. 337 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I can I just touch on that, And I think 338 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: it was from some correspondence we got Paul Ford regarding 339 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: Salvie in his record where he was averaging twenty eight 340 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: for the first godd eighty odd Test matches and for 341 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: the last twenty odd he's averaged sort of forty three 342 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: or something horrendously, you know, So there's been a real 343 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: drop off with Salvey. 344 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is absolutely right, VISTI all center. 345 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: I think terrible, terrible poker face from him, well poker 346 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: audio at least going out there and starting to talk 347 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 3: about the green pitch. Jason Pine brilliantly all over him 348 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: on that one. Santa has three for one hundred and 349 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: twenty three in three innings at the base and so 350 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: averaging forty one. Hardly frightening statistics. But you know, if 351 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: Bisher can get wickets then he definitely can. Yes, the 352 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 3: Saudi drop off. I had a quick look the last 353 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: twelve months. His bowling average has gone from a career 354 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: average of thirty ticked over to thirty. It has been 355 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: fifty four across ten matches, so you know, a massive, 356 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: massive drop off in form for him. 357 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's problematic. 358 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: And as I mentioned before, you know these are who 359 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: the chances were off, Henry Smith, Phillips and Willow Rourke. 360 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: So there were eight drop catches zero off Tim SOUVII, 361 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: so not really getting the wickets and not actually creating 362 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: the chances. 363 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty. 364 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: Difficult like it does feel like it is a hope 365 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: based selection based on historical performance rather than who we 366 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: think is going to be most effective. I think England 367 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: will be relatively pleased that Smith it's going to be 368 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: stood down for this game. 369 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I agree, And you know he's announced his retirement and 370 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: Jesus what a legend of the game he's been, no question, 371 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: and he's been such a great servant for New Zealand cricket. 372 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: But we can't be pissing around with this sort of stuff, 373 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: Dylan Cleve. And my whole view is we pick the 374 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: best side in the side that we think is going 375 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: to win the next Test match. And you've just, to 376 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: my mind, you've got to give Smith another run over 377 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: sent Now, as much as I respect sent Over, Salvie, sorry, 378 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: as much as I respect Salvie, you've got to make 379 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: hard calls like that. Surely. 380 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tend to agree. And I think one 381 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: of the underrated factors on Southey's decline as well is 382 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: he hasn't got to sit and follow up the other 383 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: end bowling left arm swinging it into the pads, which 384 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: means that his right arm swinging away from the outside 385 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: edge becomes even more effective. I think that that not 386 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: enough people have sort of credited that for the drop off. 387 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 2: I think it's got to play a huge partner and 388 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: then Wagoner coming in bowling the short stuff, which unfortunately 389 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: I think they're kind of they're giving that role to 390 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: Smith and O'Rourke a bit now, and it's a bit 391 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: of a shame. I wouldn't I noticed when England do 392 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: the short ball attack, it's principally Ben Stokes that leads 393 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: it with the old ball. I would not like to 394 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: see Smith and O'Rourke in particular hit down that route 395 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: that early. But you know, these are the cards that 396 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: I guess they're playing with now. 397 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know one of the you know, there's a 398 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: few players under pressure Latham as you know all the 399 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: batsmen really is, as stated a Latham Conway. There's a 400 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: lot of questions being asked about Blundle and his lack 401 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: of form drop some catches too, you know, and Gary 402 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: Stead has been quite emphatic he's backed him all the 403 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: way and said he he will return to form. Yeah, 404 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: you know he is. 405 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: I have a problem with that already, do. 406 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: So do I? 407 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: I think he's so out of form now. Yes, that 408 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: they're working on the old stop clock is right twice 409 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: a day theory with Blundle. They figure if they keep 410 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: wheeling him out, eventually he's going to get some runs. 411 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: Like Henry Nichols did. He was a literable, right, they 412 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: could go see told you the whole loyalty thing. You've 413 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: got to trust us. Yeah, but we had eleven tests 414 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: of nonsense in between. 415 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. And you know, in terms of the 416 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: hard calls, Paul Forward, do we go Smith over Southe? 417 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: Do we go Young over Conway? For example? Tough calls? 418 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well Blunder, I mean Blunda the last twelve 419 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: months averaging fourteen with the bat, nineteen below his career average, 420 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: So jeez, yeah, just scary, scary loss of form. What 421 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: i'd I'd definitely be dropping him below Phillips and the 422 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: betting order. Phillips is averaging sort of thirty nine, nearly 423 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: forty over the last twelve months, so I think he's 424 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: earned that little promotion. But yeah, look, I just can't 425 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: see Stead and Wells doing anything other than picks out 426 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: there and just saying, you know, we trust the old 427 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 3: dog to come in and do something fantastic for us. 428 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: I just actually can't see them doing it. But as 429 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: I think that's a call that i'd make. Yeah, look, 430 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: I know that Young is probably not a compelling case, 431 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 3: but it does feel like, you know, I think this 432 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: could be. I think Conway is that he is on 433 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: the precipice here in this Test match against the base 434 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: at the basin. So yeah, I think it's whether it's 435 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 3: one match too many or is it the great redemption? 436 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: Has Dylan mentioned? 437 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, And I just want to mention something that 438 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: you put forward last week, Dylan, which was that Latham 439 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: takes the gloves, maybe drops down the order, maybe you 440 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: get Will Young up there opening, which again is so 441 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: unfair on Will Young, putting him, you know, in a 442 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: place that he's not best suited. But you know, horses 443 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: for courses type scenario. Can I just ask you both 444 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, with Blundle, where is the 445 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: strait swat. 446 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: Well, they can't within the squad that they've got unless 447 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: they do it with Latham, as we mentioned, and that's 448 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: non elegant solution and it's not something you could ever 449 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: imagine Gary Stead doing. But I mean the thing with 450 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: keeping on picking Blundle is also there's another factor in 451 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: this and what message does that send to the guys 452 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: that are slogging it out on the first class circuit 453 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: next to scoring runs, you know, playing excellently, And you've 454 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: got Gary Steed standing up in front of the media 455 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: saying that Blundle's our guy, you know, and I think 456 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: that must be quite demoralizing. In fact, I know it's demoralizing, 457 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: and I know it's been talked about quite a bit, 458 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean they've just locked into this. We 459 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: keep on I keep on using this word anyway, dogmatic. 460 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: They're just so dogmatic about their selections and you know 461 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: blundaway come out in score hundred. 462 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: Well, I just want to read Sam Wells actually said 463 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: this week because they said, you know, why are you 464 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: persisting with. 465 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: Blundle at number six? 466 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: And it was like, he's got this history of big 467 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: partnerships with Daryl Mitchell at number five, that's literally the reason. Yeah, 468 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: but if you look at the statistics on that, I 469 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: think they actually, I know they've had some big partnerships 470 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: against England in that series that we've lost three nil. 471 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: But their partnership average is sort of about forty or fifty. 472 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: It's not like they average a million, you know. And 473 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: over the last year he's averaging less than all the 474 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: batsmen and five of the bowlers as well. 475 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to get to some correspondence sent 476 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: to us by Andy Bairn, and I'm just going to 477 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: cut to the end of it if you don't mind Fellers, 478 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: because that's sort of relevant to what we've been talking about. 479 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: And he says, oh, well, to the basin Blunder's Blundell 480 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: needs a break, as does Devon sal He doesn't deserve 481 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: a spot, regardless of him choosing this to be his 482 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: last Test series. The way he threw away his wicket 483 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: when he and Mitchell were going along quite nicely and 484 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Mitchell had maybe twenty to get to his tongue was 485 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: typical of how he's been playing at the moment, recklessly and. 486 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: Not well, yeah, well he's got points here. Would I'd 487 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: be reluctant to put sow he's batting into the mix 488 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: as to whether he's worthy of a spot or not. 489 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: Mitchell was actually quite a lot further away than twenty 490 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: from his tongue when Sowdy was trying to break the 491 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: sixers record. The simple fact is that Sowdy can't defend 492 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: down He's got no defensive technique as soon as someone 493 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: bowls the ball. 494 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: Which is weird, Why couln't you not defend? 495 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: He's scared of the ball. He cannot play the bouncer. 496 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: The only hope he has got against the short ball 497 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: is to flick a few out of the ground and 498 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: get them to go full at him again. 499 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's funny you should say that, because when 500 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: we were doing the commentary he really passed off with 501 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: the short bowling, and he just stepped aside and went, 502 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: all right, I'm having a tank. That's what I'm going 503 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: to do is have a tank. That's all. 504 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: So it looks ugly, but scoring twelve heading two sixes 505 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: and getting caught on the boundary is actually more useful 506 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: than getting hit on the tits a few times and 507 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: then gloving one up to gully for six. You know. 508 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, how many sixes is he on now? Is 509 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: it ninety three or ninety four? Ninety five? 510 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Two more to get to seyweg Oh, he's past 511 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: seweg isn't he He's got two more to get to 512 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: Chris Gail. Imagine me sound they having more chest six 513 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: is than Chris Gale. It's just ludicrous. 514 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. 515 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Now. 516 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Well, so I tell you what I'm fizzing about this 517 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: Basin test match. It's always a great sort of spectacle 518 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: for our summerpool forward. What are you hoping for here? 519 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: Apart from a victory? 520 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, just another I'd like a close game, 521 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: to be honest. I'm happy to take New Zealand. I 522 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: don't want us to lose. I don't think it's going 523 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: to be a drawer. I think there might be a 524 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: bit of moisture around on Sunday, But despite the over 525 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: eight finals, these two teams are just going to blaze 526 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: through it and you four playing days, aren't they? 527 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 4: Look I would love to see our beat it's coming 528 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: to form. 529 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: I'd love to see us drop fewer than three catches 530 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: across the entire match, and I'd love to see km 531 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: Williamson rack up another milestone, pets an enormous partnership with 532 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: Devin Conway or Ratch and Revendra. 533 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your hopes and dreams for the second 534 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: test Heed Dylan, what do you want to. 535 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: See our comprehensive victory? 536 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'd like to see us. 537 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: Win the toss insert England when it's still green. I'd 538 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: like to see us run through as ball mentioned hold 539 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: the catchers. Cain Williamson turn one of those delightful starts 540 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: into another. Biggie Mitchell Sentner, Glenn Phillips pitch takes turn 541 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: go through England. The second dig or wrapped up while 542 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: I'm sitting on the bench at a trial at the 543 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: Auckland District Court. 544 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Great stuff, mate, And with that we have a hunch 545 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: for the game thanks to the tab and we are 546 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: going for the hairy rav to be in the runs 547 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: at home at the basin in the first innings, correct and. 548 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 4: Versus paying five dollars eighty. 549 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, chuck one hundred bucks on that and we'll 550 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 3: have five hundred and eighty dollars back. Thanks very much, 551 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: and you can rely on us because we got it 552 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: right last week. The silver lining of New Zealand getting 553 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: pumped by England at Hagley was that our bet did 554 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: come in Fellas Kam Williamson was the top score. 555 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: Great stuff. I'll tell you what we'll take a quick 556 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: break and we'll be back shortly. Yes, welcome back to 557 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: the BYC. So another test series which I've been love 558 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: and I was pissed off there was such a big 559 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: break between the test matches, I'll be honest with you. 560 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: So we've got the Basin Test going on, great times 561 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: also Australia Versus India and the Pink Test Adelaide starts 562 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: five pm Friday, Dyllion Clean, you're looking forward to it. 563 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: Beautiful times on again? 564 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: How good? 565 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: So you spend that last hour of the Basin Test 566 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: kind of with half an eye on a second screen. Yes, 567 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: maybe you're crick and for live updates, but you're still 568 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: watching New Zealand and England and then you flick over 569 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: immediately get your nacho's out there. A couple of vegetarian 570 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: nats vegetarian nature. 571 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Vegetarian Sure, how long have you been a vegetarian for? 572 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: Since I was about eighty months old? That's true story. 573 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: Do you eat meat? Did you eat meat before that? 574 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: Well? They my parents tried to feed me meat, but 575 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: I kept on getting sick and it was neat was 576 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: identified as the issue. 577 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: Wow, I've never heard of that. 578 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: Hell, you can do this. 579 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I had no idea. Oh that's great stuff. 580 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: You know. 581 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: All I'm looking forward to that are Hazels, course out, 582 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: injured bowl and the lightly replacement. What what the hell 583 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: has happened to him? He was phenomenal when he packed 584 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: his matches. His record was ridiculous and he just doesn't 585 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: seem to be in the mix anymore. 586 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: He is here, obviously, they call him the horses for 587 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: courses type bowl. I don't like nibbles a bird. He's 588 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: not the classic Australian thump it and the deck hard, 589 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: but he's more along the deck, kept the scene at 590 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: the edge. So I think I mean he's there or 591 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: there abouts. But that's a pretty tough lineup to true true. 592 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well has Everage's twenty point three in Test cricket 593 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: ten matches, thirty five wickets. Yeah, and of course that 594 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: ridiculous six for seven. But you know he's no spring 595 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: chicken either. What he's nearly thirty six years old. And 596 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: this is you know, this problem that Australia has is 597 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: that they have been so consistent with their team that 598 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: their succession planning is a bit shitty when they get 599 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: a surprise injury like Josh Josh Hazerwood being out with 600 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: the side strain. You know it's either Home or Sean 601 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: Abbot or Brendan Doggett, but all got all of them 602 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: over thirty. 603 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: There is something wrong with Marsh tour, isn't there. 604 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not going to be bowling and this not 605 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: able to bowl. Bou Chapeau added to the squad, never 606 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: heard of him, meaning he is in line to be 607 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: the first French born player to represent the Baggy Green. 608 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Are you taking the pass here again? Yes? I knew it. 609 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: I knew it, bou Chapa good head. Well that's because, 610 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: funnily enough, I actually watched a lot of the first 611 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: class Australian cricket and I was like chapone never bloody 612 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: ahead of them. 613 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: That's a typo. 614 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: And he's he's thirty years old as well, thirty wickets 615 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: and nine hundred runs in. 616 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 4: The Sheffield Shield last summer. 617 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: He used the bowl offspin now of course, just decided 618 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: to bowl medium pace and yeah Marsh. If Marsh can't bowl, 619 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: they'll want to have a you'd expect they want to 620 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: have an all rounder in there. So he's the next 621 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: cab off the rank. 622 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: What's what's the story with Green at. 623 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: The moment, Beck Indury right on for the season. I think. 624 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: Okay, India on the other handed, embarrassment of Richard. Some 625 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: players coming back into it, of course, Sharma, Gil, Judasia 626 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: and Ashwyn. Yeah what what I mean? We were talking 627 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: about how good then he opened in the second innings. 628 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it was first job on the first innings. 629 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: K open both he opened both eggs. 630 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Okay, he looked good and right. Sharma's kind of been 631 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: out of form where he was against us. 632 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got bad bone body language, whereas Boomera. 633 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: Was superbos scape. 634 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, tough choice of the male. 635 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: Says that Sharma will bat down the order and they'll 636 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: keep that opening partnership, which what they got two hundred 637 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: and something in one of those innings, didn't they? So 638 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: Sharma will dropped down the order. Subwarn Gillill come in, 639 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: they'll drop Padakahal and Jerrell I think it is. And 640 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: then a bit of speculation about Washington Sunda, a few 641 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: calls for Judasia to get in there, but or Ashwin. 642 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: But looking at the Prime Minister eleven game that they 643 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: played in that annoying break, Jason, Judasia only bowl five 644 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: overs and Ashwan didn't bowl at all, So if you 645 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: were betting, apparently you would be betting that Washington Sundaw 646 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: would retain his place. So yeah, the other the other 647 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: bloke that they've got still waiting in the wings, and 648 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: I had I had a look. It's pretty hard case 649 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: Mohammad Shami. He's still in India with a stuffed ankle. 650 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: But you've literally got media state picking out his house 651 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: like a papal conclave, waiting for the smoke to come 652 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: out of the chimney that he's going to be okay 653 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: and flow into the to Australia to join the Ashes 654 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: sorry the border Givasca squad after Christmas. 655 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, only only in India. 656 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's extraordinary to think when you really put your 657 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: mind to it, that plays like Ashwyn, who has a 658 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: phenomenal record Judasia likewise, you know, struggling to get in 659 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: the side. I almost get the feeling that Ashwyn is 660 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: quite unpopular, you know what I'm saying. 661 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: I remember what. 662 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: I've been listening to Chimpagne. 663 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: Well, Chimpagne, he was not even your teammates, like your mate, 664 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, is there is there something about because he's 665 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: a prickly customer on the field. Umpires must hate him, 666 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: I reckon they must go, oh God, because he's always 667 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: he's always gesticulating. He's always sort of talking to the 668 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: skipper or the umpire. What was wrong with that kind 669 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: of thing? What is the story there? 670 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: My understanding is he's not a particularly popular character, but 671 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: neither it's a coach Brandy that Gautam Gambia is complete 672 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: pain in the ass too, So. 673 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating they deal. 674 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: With these things. You don't have to. What's the old 675 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: thing that the All Blacks always fall back on, the 676 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: nove dickeads policy. Yes, you don't have to have that 677 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: in every team in the world. 678 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: Hey, now listen up. 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And you know, I've seen a few pieces 698 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 3: of this written over the last week or so, just 699 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: saying yeah, Now, every time you see a player get 700 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: hit in the head, you think of Philip Hughes and 701 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: you think what could happen and it's yeah, I guess 702 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: it cast a shadow over the game in a way 703 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: and made us realize, you know, the element of danger 704 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: that people take on when they go out there and 705 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 3: face these frightening bowlers. Some lovely words from his family, 706 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: you know that they said that Philip was a small 707 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: town country boy. Australian test one day and T twenty cricketer. 708 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: He played on the toughest pictures around the globe, alongside 709 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: the toughest of cricketers on the world stage, but he 710 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 3: never forgot where he came from and who helped along 711 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: the way. And you know, I think there was a 712 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 3: line this is the New Zealand connection, I think, and 713 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm projecting this, but I know Brendan McCullum had a 714 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: I don't know if he knew and particularly well or 715 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: they seem to connect, but he had a line which said, 716 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: where would you rather be boys than playing cricket for 717 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: your country? And I feel like that's something that Brendan 718 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: McCullum has brought into the New Zealand environment and he's 719 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: doing it now for England. 720 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: Fantastic had a tragedy that was and he was fondly 721 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: remembered and it continues to be fondly remembered. A significant 722 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: decision Fellers immediately facing the ICC is the venue of 723 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Champions Trophy, which is supposed to 724 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: be in Pakistan. 725 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: Dylan Kleaver, Yeah, so India refusing to travel there basically 726 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 2: in Pakistan and not willing to compromise either because they said, now, 727 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: hang on a minute, we sent our team to the 728 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: World Cup in India. We didn't make any demands about 729 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: playing that at neutral venues or on our home chef. 730 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's all sorts of geopolitical implications. Yeah, although 731 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: Paul kind of cut through that last week didn't said, well, no, 732 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: I think India had just been pricks. 733 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 3: Really, yes, I think the latest on that is that 734 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: it sounds like India will play at a neutral venue, 735 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: but Pakistan want a cast iron guarantee that when they 736 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: when India are hosting tournaments, Pakistan get to go and 737 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 3: play at a neutral venue too, So it's a quid 738 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 3: pro quo. 739 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 2: The whole bizarre thing about this is just how important 740 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: that Pakistan India matchup is, like they have to. One 741 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: of the whole reasons the whole pool thing at the 742 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup is demolished or dismantled was because the 743 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: broadcasters in India and the subcontinent, who paid billions of 744 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: rupees for it, had to guarantee there would be a 745 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 2: Pakistan India matchup. So everyone loves the drama of it, 746 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: but they just I guess the security implications for political 747 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: implications mean that it's become fodder really for politicians. 748 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: It's madness. 749 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: The tournament's on in seventy seven days and there's no schedule. 750 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: We don't even know which country it's being played in. 751 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: It's extraordinary crazy stuff, all right, a moment as our hack, 752 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: isn't it? But anyway his record West Indies versus are 753 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: the Bangers and Kingston Jamaica. 754 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the ban has actually won that test this morning, 755 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: so the series has won one. They won it quite 756 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: convincing me. But along the way, mominal Hak has achieved 757 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: a dubious record of becoming the you got a pair 758 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: becoming the batter with the most ducks for Bangladesh. And 759 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 2: I guess the thing that makes that noteworthy is like 760 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: in most countries, it'll be someone like a Danny Morrison 761 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: will hand the record on to a Chris Martin who 762 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: might eventually hand the record onto a Will O'Rourke. Mominal 763 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 2: Hawk is the top water batter so and funnily enough, 764 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 2: he took the record from a guy called Mohammad Ashraful 765 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: who ended up getting done for spot fixing, I believe, 766 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 2: but who was also a top order betner. 767 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: So it's pretty tough there go well, let's look at 768 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: the local game the Plunket Shield. Round three completed the 769 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: Otago Vaults three oh one for nine declared and two 770 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: thirty one Northern District's Men three sixty five and one 771 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: forty five for two. Match drawn, Wellington fire Birds two 772 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 1: fifty one for nine declared and two seventeen Central Stags 773 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: three oh two and one sixty seven for one. Stags 774 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: one by nine wickets in the Auckland Aces five hundred 775 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: and sixty seven for nine declared, Canterbury four four six 776 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: for three, the match drawn. The Nodles brett Hampton and 777 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: Northern Districts one hundred and twenty one off eighty six balls. 778 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: Mark Chapman for Auckland of course two seventy six, Reese 779 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: Marry You, Marry You, Central one eighty five and Harvey 780 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: Nichols one oh three not out. 781 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it was Canbury one eighty five. It's a 782 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: second big big Ton Canterbury. Sorry, yes, executive matches. He's 783 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: scored a big double the previous round. Evidently that game, 784 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: which is one of the few games Auckland actually get 785 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 2: to play in Auckland this summer. It was a bit 786 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 2: of a joke given me that wicket was as flat 787 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: as you're ever gonna find. Chapman obviously enjoyed it, Mary 788 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: and Nichols clearly enjoyed it. But I've noticed a little 789 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: bit and kind of message boards you saw a message 790 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: boards these days and social media that there's a bit 791 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 2: of a I wouldn't say it's a clamoring, but there's 792 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of a groundswell for Reece Mary to 793 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: be considered for the givin Conway spot maybe, but good 794 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 2: on him stacking up big runs together. You're going to 795 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: be in a conversation, but I think you've got to 796 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 2: do more than have a good week in the blanket 797 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: Shield when one of them's on the Eden Park out 798 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: of Opal. 799 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, he's a he's a he's out of St 800 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: Andrew's College too. Is that he played in the same 801 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 3: course he has Team twenty nineteen. I think they were 802 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 3: with Folks and Jesse Frew who's the wikie keeper batsman 803 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 3: from Kennbury. So yeah, pretty decent pedigree there, but as 804 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 3: you say, very early days but definitely definitely one to watch. 805 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: Ah. 806 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Golden Box Rhyes, Marrio four hundred and thirty three. 807 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: Nick Caley from Wellington three eighty eight Cheat Raval member him. 808 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 2: I do remember him. It was the last one that 809 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 2: actually got dropped for former shoes. 810 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, maybe chuck him back in the three twenty 811 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: five The Silver Sweat Band Brett Hampton thirteen, Blair Techna 812 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: thirteen De. 813 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: Ferned Dendrew Fernstters. 814 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: And jdmmckay twelve. The Table at the Moment, Northern District's 815 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: forty six, Central thirty nine, Cannbury thirty three, Auckland twenty five, 816 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: Wellington nineteen and Dylan Cleaver's favorite side Otago on eighteen. 817 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: Just a little bit like you didn't quite make the 818 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: Golden Box. But Dane Cleaver is having a cracking season 819 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: there too. He's got more than three hundred runs, averaging 820 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: more than one hundred scored, plus fifty three of the 821 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 2: four bats. I mean there's a straight swap if you 822 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: if you want to just spick a team that's more 823 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 2: likely to succeed at the moment and the other central. 824 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm giving Central some love here because the selectors never do. 825 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: The other central guy to keep an eye on is 826 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: Dame Cleaver's heir apparent, who's opening the batting for them. 827 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: At the moment is a guy called Curtis Heathey, and 828 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: he hasn't had an amazing start of the season, but 829 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 2: he got runs in that second dig and that win 830 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: against Wellington. And I know there's a lot of frustration 831 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: in Central that Mitch Hay has been anointed as Tom 832 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 2: Bundle's successor, and they think down there with some justification 833 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: that their current guy is better, which is Dame Cleaver, 834 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: and the next Feller might be even better. Still. 835 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm looking at a picture here, supers Nae 836 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: retro outfits. 837 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 2: Nice, don't you reckon? I'd be happy to wear them. 838 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: Yea, they're pretty cool. Actually, I'd were one of those 839 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: for sure. 840 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: Down the Viaed act to one of those bars. 841 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: It's full of wankers. 842 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 2: The only shir I wouldn't wear as a Canniby won. 843 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,479 Speaker 2: But I think they're quite nice. 844 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 4: A Sergan fan be in the middle there. 845 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: It looks like the CEO, Hey tell you what, it's 846 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: time for pull Ford's News or os. 847 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 4: J is the reigning champion here. 848 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the segments getting changed to pull Ford's Stitch Up 849 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: Weekly Stitch Up. 850 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 4: Well, I thought Jason was amazing with us. 851 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 3: Thank you amazing as knowledge of woman's anatomy last week anyway, 852 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 3: three things that something wrong with one of them? 853 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: Tell me what it is. 854 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: A baggy green test cap worn by Australia's Don Bradman 855 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 3: sold for three hundred and ninety thousand Ossie dollars at 856 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 3: auction this week. It's collector's vibe to own a rare 857 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: piece of cricketing history. The tented garment, almost eighty years old, 858 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 3: was sun faded and showed signs of. 859 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 4: Insect damage and had a torn peak. 860 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 3: Auction house Bottoms said Bradman wore the cap during the 861 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 3: nineteen four seven eight tour of Australia by India. This 862 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: was his last test series on home soil. The auction 863 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 3: lasted ten minutes. Barnums said it was the only known 864 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 3: baggy green worn by Bradman during the series, in which 865 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: he scored seven hundred and fifteen runs at an average 866 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 3: of a lazy one. 867 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 4: Hundred and seventy nine. Jesus. 868 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 3: The cat was said to have been given to Pankajh 869 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 3: Peter Kumar Gupta, India's tour manager in nineteen forty eight, 870 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 3: and number two Zach and Jacob Cummings. Dad Craig has 871 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 3: been appointed as the head coach of the Blaze in 872 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 3: the East Midlands for their first season as part of 873 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: England's Tier one woman's domestic comp coming and enjoyed success 874 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 3: in his home country with Otago Sparks, leading them to 875 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 3: two fifty over Halle Burton Johnstone titles in four years. 876 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: He will arrive in the UK and the new year 877 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: after the conclusion of the Super Smash T twenty competition. 878 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: I feel very humbled and privileged, he said. Cumming's appointment 879 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 3: comes after Chris Rogers coached the Blaze to their first 880 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 3: piece of silverware in last season's Charlotte Edward's Cup. He 881 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 3: left to take charge of the England Women's Under nineteens. 882 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 3: The Blaze CEO said they conducted an exhaustive global search 883 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 3: to find the best candidate. 884 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 4: And number three. 885 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 3: Former South African left arm fast bowler Lonoabo Subi, along 886 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 3: with Fami Solicily and Ethie Malati, have been arrested and 887 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 3: charged with multiple counts of corruption related to their involvement 888 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 3: in a match fixing scandal during the Ram Slam T 889 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 3: twenty Challenge, a domestic T twenty league in South Africa. 890 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 3: The charges alleged that the players either accepted or agreed 891 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: to accept improper gratification in exchange for actions that can 892 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 3: rise the integrity of the sport. In English, the players 893 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 3: are accused of collaborating with Indian bookmakers to influence match outcomes. 894 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 4: Here we go, there's are three things. 895 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: Thank your first today, Dylan. 896 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 2: That sounds a really light price for Don Bradman cap, though, 897 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: so seeps. Yeah, I will go for that one. I'll 898 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 2: go the Don Bradman cap surely gets more than a 899 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: pidly three hundred and nine thousand. 900 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: Ninety Actually that was it. I'll go for the same story. 901 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: Did you say what can you do that? Yeah, for 902 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: a different reason. Did you say Paul Ford that it 903 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: was his last home series? 904 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. 905 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm saying it wasn't. Oh, okay, well you're both incorrect. 906 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 3: The former coach it's number two coming appointment does not 907 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 3: follow Chris Rodgers, the ginger head Australian opening Batsman. But 908 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 3: some random I've never heard of called Christopher Guest. 909 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a film director, isn't he? 910 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: That's a world guest. 911 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 2: Didn't you do the one about the Craft style show 912 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 2: and spinal tap? The spinal tap? 913 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 4: Wasn't he oh maybe I don't know. I'm not that old. 914 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though. 915 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: I had a note with Chris Rodgers there too, but 916 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: then I thought, no, it's probably right the trophy. 917 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: You write it down, the trophy says with hardy Jay. 918 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: In the meantime, Dylan, it goes to. 919 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 4: I'll take it to the base. 920 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: Hey. But right now it's time for the ever popular 921 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: Dylan Cleavers. Who am I? 922 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 4: It's Dylan Cleavers, who am I? Yes? 923 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: Last week the answer was Luke Ronkey of course, born 924 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,959 Speaker 2: in Denny Virke, which literally translates to Dane's work, which 925 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: was the huge fortification entrenchment dug across the Danish Smith 926 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 2: to protect against the marauding Saxons. But of course I'm 927 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 2: telling you nothing you don't already know there. 928 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, man, I knew that. 929 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: Denny Vick. Interestingly enough, was also the birthplace of the 930 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 2: celebrated You're in Chatfield and the less celebrated Queens and 931 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 2: Premier Joe Bielke Peterson and. 932 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 4: The even less celebrated John Parker I believe. 933 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: Oh maybe his brother Mary too, who knows, And there 934 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 2: brother Kenneth. That was a win. Anyway, I'm giving the win. 935 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: We had the usual suspects Matt Parker and Lockey and 936 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: his dad obviously got it right. But I'm giving the 937 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 2: win to Rob Connell, who said we love him here 938 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: in Perth. So anyway, this week who am I? I 939 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 2: compiled one of the most extraordinary Test careers in New 940 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: Zealand history, if only for the fact that was built 941 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 2: upon the flimsiest of pretexts. I played just sixteen days 942 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 2: of first class cricket in total, yet managed to squeeze 943 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: two Tests into that. Yes, you heard me correctly. My 944 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: rapid elevation was based almost entirely on an eighteen wicket 945 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 2: hall in a club game while representing the first eleven 946 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 2: of New Zealand's oldest state school. After that headline grabbing feet, 947 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 2: I had to go into Ireland to play for my 948 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 2: home team in the Plunket Shield. I took a five 949 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 2: for on my first class debut against Auckland and that 950 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: was enough to see me selected to play the NCC, 951 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: as England's touring team was known in those days, controversially 952 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: picked ahead of a bloke whose Christian names were der 953 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: went Rahl. I didn't enjoy a lot of success, but 954 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: then again, who did. What was notable was that, following 955 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 2: that series, I played just one more first class game. 956 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be forgotten, however, because a few years later, 957 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: a floppy heired spinner with the middle name of Luca 958 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 2: would break my most cherished record. Need one more clue, 959 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 2: Here's a little sweetener for you. I was an employee 960 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: of the Colonial Sugar Refinery. My work took me to 961 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 2: Fiji for twenty years, where I managed the national cricket team, 962 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 2: then back to Sydney where I died not far from 963 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 2: Wentce I was born. 964 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 4: Who am I? 965 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 2: You've got no idea? I can tell what it up 966 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 2: in your face? 967 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: Not a clue, Not a clue. 968 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think I do know? Was his 969 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 3: brother in Shawshank redemption? 970 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 2: Ah, very good, very good? 971 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, right now it's time for Paul Wards cricket violence corner. 972 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: Poor Forwards cricket violence corner. 973 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty low level petty theft this week, no blood 974 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: Sport after the eye curdling photo of the poor cricket 975 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 3: umpire until this week, police are investigating the theft of 976 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 3: several items from Hagley Oval during the first Test match. 977 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 3: UK broadcast to Talk Sport reported it had two cameras stolen, 978 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 3: which meant it could not provide images of the day 979 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 3: three of the. 980 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 4: Cricket test on its YouTube channels. 981 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 3: The venue owner, Venues Ototahi, who I think have banned 982 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 3: the Alternaive Commentary collective from being at the ground, confirmed 983 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 3: there was a security breach and the cameras were among 984 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 3: several items taken from a locked area. Some of the 985 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 3: things we are aware of are some venues Oto Tahi 986 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: technology equipment like laptops, a TV, alcohol and some food. 987 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 4: Sounds like a really high level operation. 988 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 3: Venues Ototahi chief executive Caroline Harvey Tear said the company 989 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 3: has twenty four to seven security at the site, but 990 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 3: was disappointed the break and occurred. It was all locked up. 991 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 3: Obviously we're concerned about what's happened. This is not something 992 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 3: that's happened before, certainly not on my watch and not 993 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 3: in my tenure. 994 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 4: So there we go. 995 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 3: Hopefully there's they're good buggers from talkSPORT to get their 996 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 3: kept back, or at least you can get to a 997 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 3: shop and stock up in time for the basin. 998 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 2: Was I the only thing stolen the oval that week? 999 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 2: Either a bit of pride and a few reputations as well. 1000 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: Shofty boom, Hey, thanks for taking the time to listen 1001 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: to this podcast. In fact, if we love your correspondence. 1002 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: By the way, so people, if people want to get 1003 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 1: in touch. 1004 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 3: With us, Paul forward look as an email to b 1005 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 3: YC at Beige Brigade dot co dot z. Slide into 1006 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 3: the DMS on Instagram or Facebook for the Alternative Commentary 1007 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 3: Collective or the bage we go. We'll share it in 1008 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 3: our WhatsApp group and we'll chat about it and nextpect. 1009 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: Dylan, what's going on in the bounds? Mate? 1010 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: You can catch up with mytuperative thoughts on the cricket 1011 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 2: as daily at the moment with notes from the Oval, 1012 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 2: although I guess next week it will be note or 1013 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 2: this week it will be notes from the reserve or 1014 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 2: the basin. So yeah, sign up, Dalan Cleave dot subsec 1015 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 2: dot com. Let's free. 1016 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's hope next time we join you you 1017 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: join us. I mean we've got bitter news. Let's up 1018 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: for a more comprehensive performance from our fellas and leveling 1019 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: up the series. Eh. 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