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Speaker 1: So we're getting a public inquiry into the Tom Phillips case,

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Speaker 1: just as Simon Moore case will run it it's behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors. They're going to look at agencies, including the police,

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Speaker 1: did they do everything they could to protect those children.

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Speaker 1: Jane Seal, Child Matters Chief Executive with me this morning. Jane,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Now, the fact that it's private,

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Speaker 1: you know that it's behind closed doors, good thing.

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Speaker 2: It is a good thing. I think it's entirely appropriate

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Speaker 2: that we have this review. It's quite wide reaching, it's

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Speaker 2: got a practical focus, but most importantly it has been

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Speaker 2: done to protect the rights of those involved. So I'm

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Speaker 2: hopeful it's going to be a constructive process.

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Speaker 1: What are we actually hoping to change here or achieve?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the tragedy of this case doesn't hide

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Speaker 2: the fact that we still have learnings to get from it,

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Speaker 2: and if we can improve the system, whatever recommendations come

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Speaker 2: out of this is not as important as if they

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Speaker 2: are actually implemented, because there's many recommendations from reviews that

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Speaker 2: are never implemented. So what we want is strengthening the

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Speaker 2: system that we can learn from it.

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Speaker 1: This is such a ordering a Tambadikian agencies like that.

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Speaker 1: It's between a rock and a hard place, aren't they

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Speaker 1: Because you go in and you take children away and

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Speaker 1: people say, oh, you're taking you know, you count and

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Speaker 1: steal children from from families, and then you don't, and

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Speaker 1: then you're criticized if you don't. It's a hard place

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Speaker 1: to be, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's very easy for the public and media

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Speaker 2: to judge without having all the facts. I'm very pleased

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Speaker 2: to see that this review has a practical focus and

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Speaker 2: that word was used because I think it's important to

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Speaker 2: understand that people make decisions and those agencies on the

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Speaker 2: information they have at the time.

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Speaker 1: Jane, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. Jane steal

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