1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,413 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:15,173 Speaker 2: That'd be rude climb past is our man in the garden? 4 00:00:15,173 --> 00:00:17,613 Speaker 2: Hey rude, Hey Jack? 5 00:00:18,373 --> 00:00:21,053 Speaker 3: Ha ha, how are you? You're going very well? Ha? 6 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:22,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very well. 7 00:00:22,133 --> 00:00:22,453 Speaker 3: Thank you. 8 00:00:22,533 --> 00:00:24,853 Speaker 2: I'm impressed to your talking lawns this morning, because we 9 00:00:24,853 --> 00:00:27,093 Speaker 2: have had a few messages people saying, can you get 10 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:29,053 Speaker 2: rude to talk about the lawn But I know that 11 00:00:29,173 --> 00:00:31,933 Speaker 2: deep down philosophically, you're going to say something like lawns 12 00:00:31,933 --> 00:00:34,173 Speaker 2: should never exist because they don't exist in nature. 13 00:00:35,493 --> 00:00:38,533 Speaker 3: That's about right. You've heard that before. I'm sure you. 14 00:00:39,333 --> 00:00:42,413 Speaker 3: I love it because yeah, yeah, okay, that's that's true. 15 00:00:42,773 --> 00:00:45,493 Speaker 3: The crazy thing though, is you know that and this 16 00:00:45,653 --> 00:00:49,293 Speaker 3: is true actually within the if you like the pastoral area, 17 00:00:50,293 --> 00:00:54,053 Speaker 3: the grass grubs have always been an enormous problems in 18 00:00:54,533 --> 00:00:58,493 Speaker 3: peddics and these are these are beetles that literally can 19 00:00:58,773 --> 00:01:01,173 Speaker 3: do a lot of damage to the grass, you know, 20 00:01:01,253 --> 00:01:04,573 Speaker 3: in for sheep and cattle and all that sort of stuff. 21 00:01:04,853 --> 00:01:08,053 Speaker 3: But what very few people realizes that the grass crub 22 00:01:08,173 --> 00:01:12,533 Speaker 3: is actually a New Zealand native beetlespeed in fact, endemic 23 00:01:13,013 --> 00:01:16,453 Speaker 3: to New Zealand. It is our our thing. 24 00:01:17,333 --> 00:01:21,253 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I know that, So that's number one. 25 00:01:21,293 --> 00:01:24,693 Speaker 3: So if you get grass grub in your garden, you'll 26 00:01:24,693 --> 00:01:27,693 Speaker 3: find them when you when you do a little bit 27 00:01:27,693 --> 00:01:30,173 Speaker 3: of digging in those places which which get yellow and 28 00:01:30,813 --> 00:01:33,653 Speaker 3: die up, and you see these C shaped grubs. And 29 00:01:33,693 --> 00:01:36,253 Speaker 3: I checked them on the website for you or the 30 00:01:36,293 --> 00:01:38,893 Speaker 3: other liby did. I just put them in there and 31 00:01:39,533 --> 00:01:40,573 Speaker 3: that is what they look like. 32 00:01:41,093 --> 00:01:41,293 Speaker 2: Right. 33 00:01:41,333 --> 00:01:45,733 Speaker 3: But here comes to thing. When we started introducing all 34 00:01:45,733 --> 00:01:54,213 Speaker 3: these amazing, wonderful, beautiful important grasses with high nutrients that 35 00:01:54,453 --> 00:01:58,173 Speaker 3: tastes to the grass grub as I like ice cream. 36 00:01:58,333 --> 00:02:01,253 Speaker 3: That is such good grass that I'm going down the 37 00:02:01,333 --> 00:02:04,653 Speaker 3: hill down below and take the mickey out of the garden. 38 00:02:04,933 --> 00:02:08,413 Speaker 3: And the people that grow all the sheep and things 39 00:02:08,453 --> 00:02:11,533 Speaker 3: like that and do the damage there. It's unbelievable, and 40 00:02:11,613 --> 00:02:14,213 Speaker 3: people have no idea that they are actually native. So 41 00:02:14,253 --> 00:02:18,933 Speaker 3: there you are. Typically. Yeah, so some of these things 42 00:02:18,973 --> 00:02:22,133 Speaker 3: will will So there's there's actually lots of things without 43 00:02:22,253 --> 00:02:26,813 Speaker 3: say urban grass grasses. If you like, do you get 44 00:02:26,893 --> 00:02:31,173 Speaker 3: mosses growing in your grasses? And that is to do 45 00:02:31,293 --> 00:02:34,333 Speaker 3: with the pH. You know, if the pH is too 46 00:02:34,373 --> 00:02:37,413 Speaker 3: low or too high, you get mosses. It's as simple 47 00:02:37,453 --> 00:02:40,253 Speaker 3: as that. And the way to actually control those out 48 00:02:40,293 --> 00:02:43,413 Speaker 3: of your lawn is going to either raise their pH 49 00:02:43,693 --> 00:02:47,533 Speaker 3: or lower their pH after you've done a test on 50 00:02:46,653 --> 00:02:50,333 Speaker 3: how how acid they are or how non acid they are. 51 00:02:50,813 --> 00:02:55,773 Speaker 3: Basically that's how that works. Oh my goodness. Now, people 52 00:02:55,813 --> 00:02:59,133 Speaker 3: that have got troubles with their lawns, I always say, 53 00:02:59,173 --> 00:03:01,133 Speaker 3: you have to restore them. If you really want a 54 00:03:01,173 --> 00:03:04,213 Speaker 3: nice grass lawn, you've got to restore them. But you 55 00:03:04,253 --> 00:03:06,053 Speaker 3: do that in autumn. So that's not the time of 56 00:03:06,053 --> 00:03:06,813 Speaker 3: the year to do it. 57 00:03:06,813 --> 00:03:07,013 Speaker 2: Now. 58 00:03:08,093 --> 00:03:10,493 Speaker 3: I would wait for six months if you like. You 59 00:03:10,533 --> 00:03:17,213 Speaker 3: can also use a ready lawn, which is right ding 60 00:03:17,253 --> 00:03:20,133 Speaker 3: ding ding, off you go. And the other one, of 61 00:03:20,173 --> 00:03:21,853 Speaker 3: course is and this is what they quite often do 62 00:03:21,893 --> 00:03:27,773 Speaker 3: at schools. You get these artificial grass. Yeah, I think, 63 00:03:27,933 --> 00:03:29,133 Speaker 3: I mean really. 64 00:03:28,893 --> 00:03:30,453 Speaker 2: I was going to say, how does that go down 65 00:03:30,453 --> 00:03:31,693 Speaker 2: on the clodbust household? 66 00:03:33,373 --> 00:03:36,373 Speaker 3: Like a ton of nothing? There you go, so there 67 00:03:36,373 --> 00:03:39,373 Speaker 3: you go. So that honestly, that's so here's the problem. 68 00:03:40,493 --> 00:03:43,213 Speaker 2: So we have a wee lawn. It's not not messive 69 00:03:43,293 --> 00:03:48,413 Speaker 2: or anything. And we have lots of the important important 70 00:03:48,533 --> 00:03:50,933 Speaker 2: pissed spaces. So we have a lot of pastelam and 71 00:03:50,973 --> 00:03:54,373 Speaker 2: a lot of cou you cock you yeah. 72 00:03:53,853 --> 00:03:54,893 Speaker 3: And yeah. 73 00:03:54,933 --> 00:03:57,653 Speaker 2: The problem is that and I think they're quite good 74 00:03:57,653 --> 00:04:00,013 Speaker 2: when there's low moisture, like they seem to do very 75 00:04:00,013 --> 00:04:01,493 Speaker 2: well when the rest of the lawn is not doing 76 00:04:01,493 --> 00:04:04,413 Speaker 2: so well. And I'm not someone who you know, spends 77 00:04:04,413 --> 00:04:06,173 Speaker 2: hours looking after the lawn or anything. But the reason 78 00:04:06,173 --> 00:04:09,173 Speaker 2: I don't like those in particular is that if I'm 79 00:04:09,253 --> 00:04:12,933 Speaker 2: just playing a bit of like backyard cricket or something 80 00:04:13,093 --> 00:04:15,653 Speaker 2: with the eight year old, often the ball will hit 81 00:04:15,693 --> 00:04:17,973 Speaker 2: it and go off on a weird angle and stuff 82 00:04:18,013 --> 00:04:20,533 Speaker 2: like it actually disrupts the kind of the reason we 83 00:04:20,573 --> 00:04:23,933 Speaker 2: have the lawn. But I mean, that's a bit of 84 00:04:23,973 --> 00:04:25,773 Speaker 2: an effort, right to get that stuff out of there. 85 00:04:25,973 --> 00:04:27,893 Speaker 2: You're just you're almost better just to start. 86 00:04:27,693 --> 00:04:34,053 Speaker 3: Again, exactly. But cocuus is a really really what do 87 00:04:34,093 --> 00:04:36,693 Speaker 3: you call it, aggressive weed if you like, and it 88 00:04:36,733 --> 00:04:38,933 Speaker 3: goes into your borders, It goes all to the side. 89 00:04:39,373 --> 00:04:41,373 Speaker 3: And I remember that when I lived in Lango and 90 00:04:41,373 --> 00:04:43,413 Speaker 3: the Titung in places like that, we had it all 91 00:04:43,453 --> 00:04:45,653 Speaker 3: over the place and I just had to spade it 92 00:04:45,893 --> 00:04:48,733 Speaker 3: into into straight lines again to make sure it doesn't 93 00:04:48,733 --> 00:04:51,213 Speaker 3: go to the to the nice borders, because then I'll 94 00:04:51,213 --> 00:04:53,813 Speaker 3: hear from Julie of course, and then I can't sleep, 95 00:04:53,853 --> 00:04:57,573 Speaker 3: and you know how it works. Yeah, yeah, so that's 96 00:04:57,613 --> 00:05:00,413 Speaker 3: exactly that's exactly how that is. But on the other hand, 97 00:05:00,453 --> 00:05:03,173 Speaker 3: you can get rid of it and start again hoping 98 00:05:03,373 --> 00:05:06,173 Speaker 3: that you haven't left any cocuu in there around there. 99 00:05:06,493 --> 00:05:06,773 Speaker 1: Gold. 100 00:05:07,413 --> 00:05:08,853 Speaker 2: I just feel like I feel like, at the moment 101 00:05:08,893 --> 00:05:10,173 Speaker 2: I get rid of it, first of all, it's going 102 00:05:10,213 --> 00:05:10,613 Speaker 2: to take me a. 103 00:05:10,653 --> 00:05:11,373 Speaker 1: Year to get rid of it. 104 00:05:11,413 --> 00:05:14,253 Speaker 2: Like I'll be out there every you know, every Saturday afternoon, 105 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:17,173 Speaker 2: listen to weekend sport, on my hands and knees, digging away, 106 00:05:17,213 --> 00:05:19,253 Speaker 2: and then you just know that by nick Saturday, it's 107 00:05:19,253 --> 00:05:20,213 Speaker 2: all going to be back, you know. 108 00:05:20,813 --> 00:05:21,253 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:05:21,493 --> 00:05:21,853 Speaker 2: Yeah. 110 00:05:21,893 --> 00:05:24,293 Speaker 3: But the way I have a lawn is easy. You 111 00:05:24,413 --> 00:05:27,093 Speaker 3: have a lawn with an enormous amount, let everything grow, 112 00:05:27,293 --> 00:05:30,293 Speaker 3: wonderful plants, flowers, everything, and then all you do with 113 00:05:30,333 --> 00:05:33,613 Speaker 3: your lawn mower is you make these lovely, meandering little 114 00:05:33,693 --> 00:05:36,093 Speaker 3: bits and pieces through there. That's going to be your 115 00:05:36,133 --> 00:05:38,653 Speaker 3: path and the rest will be all your flowers. You 116 00:05:38,773 --> 00:05:43,973 Speaker 3: add to the biodiversity. Everybody lives there, everybody happy. That 117 00:05:44,293 --> 00:05:45,613 Speaker 3: is what the lawn should be about. 118 00:05:45,773 --> 00:05:45,933 Speaker 1: Yeah. 119 00:05:46,093 --> 00:05:49,053 Speaker 2: Nice, Okay, I thank you so much. Yeah, we'll put 120 00:05:49,813 --> 00:05:52,733 Speaker 2: all your advice and the photo of that grub up 121 00:05:52,733 --> 00:05:54,733 Speaker 2: on the news talks he'd with so we can have 122 00:05:54,733 --> 00:05:56,653 Speaker 2: a look. Thank you so much for catching in next week. 123 00:05:57,653 --> 00:06:00,173 Speaker 2: Rude climb passed in the garden for us This Morning. 124 00:06:00,533 --> 00:06:03,613 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 125 00:06:03,733 --> 00:06:06,573 Speaker 1: to news Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or 126 00:06:06,613 --> 00:06:08,493 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.