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Speaker 2: From six the Friday Sports title with New Zealand Subberbies

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Speaker 2: International Realty find you're one of a kind. A minimum

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Speaker 2: of twenty eight days for any concussion is required before

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Speaker 1: They're going to.

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Speaker 2: Treat a brain like a broken arm. Then why don't

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Speaker 3: The lucky loser kind of getting two advantages both in

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Speaker 3: terms of the second a second crack and also home

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Speaker 3: advantage in the semi if you're ranked high enough. So

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Speaker 3: live on that out full time Warris thirty two that

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Speaker 1: Sports Title of US. This evening we have Elliott Smith

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Speaker 1: News talks EDBES Rugby editor rather and Nick Bewley News

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Speaker 1: Talk ZEDBE Canterbury Sports Treat Highlands Evening.

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Speaker 4: Did I hit it?

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Speaker 1: Elliott? Is Rugby doing enough to prevent the ct from

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Speaker 1: the head knocks?

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Speaker 2: Look, you can probably always do a little bit more,

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Speaker 2: I think, But let's not forget that this game isn't

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Speaker 2: the one that was played five years ago, played ten

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Speaker 2: years ago, played fifteen years ago, played forty years ago.

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Speaker 2: That it is constantly evolving, and obviously that the Shane

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Speaker 2: Christie news this week was absolutely horrific, and he's obviously

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Speaker 2: getting his brain donated to science to check this for

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Speaker 2: ct which he believed he had. But the game is

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Speaker 2: constantly evolving and trying to find ways that it can

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Speaker 2: be safer while also retaining what draws people to both

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Speaker 2: gates watching on TV. So look, you probably always do

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Speaker 2: a little bit more. But it's like smoking. You know,

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Speaker 2: people still want to smoke cigarettes. And where is that

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Speaker 2: line of just allow people to do it versus you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I like it. I like it because you're going

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Speaker 1: But it's a little bit more like if you go

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Speaker 1: you might you might die. That's that is where the

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Speaker 1: rugby that's where the rugby boss is fit in that equation.

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Speaker 2: Yea, make it absolutely yeah. And there has been talked

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Speaker 2: when the past of players potentially signing waivers. I don't

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Speaker 2: Zealand we're lucky to have acc that can provide that

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Speaker 2: up there. So I think rugby can always do more.

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Speaker 2: But there is a very very fine line and what

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Speaker 2: do you do? Do you do you mandate it that

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Speaker 2: basically you can't you can't play concussion for two months,

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Speaker 2: we'll players' report it.

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Speaker 1: Oh do you think so?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Way, we see you.

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Speaker 1: Earlier as we're watching the telly, we'll see them go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But then after the game you know this, are

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Speaker 2: you the smart mouth guards help? But if you're coming back,

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Speaker 2: stand down when you report for a month, six weeks,

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Speaker 4: just on that minimum standdown period, you know it is

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Speaker 4: So It's a real complex issue. And it is really

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Speaker 4: As Elliott said, you know, how long is a piece

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Speaker 1: Nick, how much would you pay to watch all of

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Speaker 1: the football the fief of football will Cup on TVNZ plus.

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Speaker 4: That's probably a question for Jason Pine. I'm not the

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Speaker 4: greatest football officionado. And then the answer for you is nothing, No,

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly right. And look, I'll be covering and

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Speaker 4: I hope I'm still in a job by that point

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Speaker 4: with ZB but look, I'll watch the All Whites. I'll

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay, there's something going on, Nick, that you're

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, I just I always want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know we're in the media industry.

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Speaker 1: and just to check on that. Nick Clearley elliotts sports

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Speaker 1: how much would you pay?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how that's a sustainable business model

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Speaker 1: In Isn't it Isn't it isn't the idea just to

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Speaker 2: They haven't with Spark Sport. They did the tournament pass

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Speaker 2: you know, every every month. That's what sustains you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah too. Right now, did you see that Auckland FC

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Speaker 4: I did have a wee look at the scheduling issue.

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Speaker 2: What's how cool?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to interrupt a boys weekend

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Speaker 4: And particularly I think the fact that Football Australia feels

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Elliott, what do you I mean? Is is it

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Speaker 2: It feels like it shouldn't Aukland actually gone. Actually no,

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. With Taupo Taupo Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, pick you pick, you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think he's trying to draw

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Speaker 2: I feel sorry for Joseph Parker and all of this

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Speaker 2: because it's his world title fight that's been mandated, but

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Speaker 2: it increasingly looks like once again and it's happened before,

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Speaker 1: Having said that, Nick, look, I've got a leg injury

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Speaker 1: that does you know? It excludes me from a marathon,

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Speaker 4: twelve brothers?

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Speaker 1: I am comparing myself with Joseph Parker, and.

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Speaker 4: I am oh, that's good stuff. Now, I think Elliott

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Speaker 4: can get back there. Who knows, I mean, Whosa could

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Speaker 4: relinquish this belt and maybe that's the best way Joseph

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Speaker 4: Parker has a chance at fighting for it for a

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Speaker 1: Great guys, enjoy your weekend. Thank you so much appreciated

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Speaker 1: Allot Smith and Nick Beuley on that.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what?

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Speaker 1: I think that Nick might have struck it on the

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Speaker 1: fifty because Jody when she this my mate Jody who's

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Speaker 1: the boss of TV, and said, we're on first name basis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how a lot of this is going down. Jody

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Speaker 1: on her way out, she was like, how much would

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Mike Cosking obviously first name basis. Mike said,

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Speaker 1: but what did he say? Like one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: nine or something, didn't they? And she was like, but

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Speaker 1: Mike's not really normal, like financially and we were like, na,

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Speaker 1: to She's done the research. I don't know why she's

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Speaker 1: bothering to poll normal people like me, but fifty if

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Speaker 1: Jody's listening, fifty fifty is where you want to hit it.

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