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Speaker 1: Good news for a bunch of health graduates. So as

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Speaker 1: part of the bonding scheme, we've got nine hundred of

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Speaker 1: them getting anywhere between fourteen thousand and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: depending on what the job is. We're talking nurses, midwives,

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Speaker 1: anesthetic texts, rural gps, et cetera. Anyway, nurs Is Society

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Speaker 1: National director David Wills is with us. David, very good

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Speaker 1: morning to you, Kira. Broadly speaking, does bonding work well?

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Speaker 2: That opening debate. I mean, it's never clear whether bonding

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Speaker 2: works or not. There is some evidence that with this

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Speaker 2: scheme retention rates are improved, but to some extent it

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Speaker 2: may well have been that people who enter it, because

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Speaker 2: it's a voluntary scheme, had every intention of remaining anyhow.

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Speaker 2: But that said, this expansion is welcome. It's for no

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Speaker 2: other reason than it's going to boost employment opportunities for

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Speaker 2: new graduates because at the moment there's not sufficient funding

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Speaker 2: available to with type budgets for tifutter or to hire

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Speaker 2: all the new graduates that would like to hire and

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Speaker 2: should hire. So this scheme gives a boost to the

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Speaker 2: hiring of new graduates. So in that sense it's welcome

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Speaker 2: and of course, it is designed to get people into

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Speaker 2: areas that are hard to fill, and if it does that,

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Speaker 2: they're those areas will welcome it.

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Speaker 1: When you say areas, do we talk more about the

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Speaker 1: jobs or more about the locations of.

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Speaker 2: The job, it's a bit of both. The scheme because

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Speaker 2: it's an expansion of an existing scheme and in the

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Speaker 2: past it's focused on filling some clinical areas which are

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Speaker 2: harder to get people into and arguably stay in, and

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Speaker 2: that's been primary care, age care and such like. But

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Speaker 2: it is also designed to help historically and ongoing with

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Speaker 2: filling vacancies in certain rural areas and other areas of

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Speaker 2: the country where it's proven to be more difficult. So

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Speaker 2: it's designed to do bogs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting insight, all right, David, appreciate it very David Wills,

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Speaker 1: who's the Nurse's Society national director. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: the bonding works. If you if I mean my daughter's

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Speaker 1: a medical student, says I've told you a number of

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Speaker 1: times before. Much as far as I know, she's staying

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Speaker 1: in the country. So if she happens to be in

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Speaker 1: the specialist area where they go, hey, guess what you get.

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Speaker 1: You get fifty thousand dollars. She was staying anyway, so

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Speaker 1: that's a bonus for her and good luck to her.

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Speaker 1: But does it solve a problem given that she wasn't

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Speaker 1: going overseas? And would you for what? Fourteen grand v fifty?

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Speaker 1: What would it take for you to go? I'll probably

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Speaker 1: go overseas as a nurse. I'll hold on. Give me

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, give me thirty two, give me forty two,

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Speaker 1: and I'll stay. And how long does that last? Interesting? Eighth.

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