1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Earlieritia with one roof love where you live news talks. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: That'd be. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: Good morning. It is great to have your company. Lots 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: to get through, Brook van Valden before six. She's in 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 3: charge of the COVID inquiry. Will she change the terms 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: of reference? Can you even change the terms of reference 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 3: to the inquiry to force Hipkins and Adderned etc. To 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: turn up in front for the public. We'll ask the 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: question NCAA results. We've got the update on those numbers 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: on the property resale profits that we're getting, at least 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: the paper ones. Mitch mccannon. Trump's plan for Putin meeting 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: that's happening this weekend and everyone's going on strike. What 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: are they being paid and what offers are they rejecting. 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: We'll look at that this morning too. Just gone seven 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: after five. 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: The agenda. 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: It is Thursday, the fourningth of August. We've had a 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: call between Trump and Zelenski. Zolensky says the US is 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: ready to support Ukraine all. 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: The American presidents. 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: Put In is bluffing, he is striving, Oliver, he is 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: pushing all over the front line. 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 5: Russia is pretendent occupy and it's not true. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: Mertz. Meanwhile, this is the German chancellor. He says the 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: focus must be on a ceasefire in Alaska. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 6: Security interests of Europe and Ukraine must be protected. 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 5: That is part of what we discussed with President Trump. 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: Gars are update for you now, Netanya. Who's saying that 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: they will aim for a full hostage release, not just 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: a sixty day truce, which is what they've been talking 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: about up until now. HUMAS leaders are in Cairo right 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: now chatting to the Egyptians in pre talks. Meanwhile, in Europe, 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: firefighters battling hundreds of blazers their temperature's top forty degrees 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: have got family over there. At the moment, it is 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: bloody hot. One hundred and fifty fires are upted in 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: just the last twenty four hours, forcing thousands to evacuate. 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 7: In the Madrid region. 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 8: That has been done in the low thirties, which is 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 8: quite a bit cooler than yesterday. However, done in the 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 8: south of cities like Seville and Cousma, it is still 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 8: very hot, around forty one forty two. The heat is 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 8: still here and we're expecting it to increase again tomorrow. 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: And for this heat wave to continue back home. The 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: man behind the world's most popular YouTube channel bringing a 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: burger chain here. You better come get a beat burger, okay, 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: mister beast Burger. It's called heading Auckland at the end 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: of the month, mainly going to be delivered by a 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: door dash in your Uber Eats, but they will have 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: a takeaway only store in Freeman's Bay here in Auckland. 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route Love where You 53 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Live News Talk said Beach. 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: I had to look at his Burger's yesterday. I mean, 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: you can't taste them by looking at a photo, can you. 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: But they looked like KFC to me. Anyway, I will 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: try one when they come and let you know how 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: they taste. Nine after five and now apparently he's just 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: worth all well, nearly billions, this guy, at least nearly billions. 60 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: Speaking of money and lots of it. Teachers making it 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: rain and Sir Brian Roach has come out and this 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: is after they've announced these strike So if you've got 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: kids at secondary school, they will be off outer class 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: staying at home next week. Sir Brian Roach, who's the 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: public Services commissioner. He's having a crack at the unions. Basically, 66 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: the question is will parents back the teachers, you know, 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: forcing their kids to stay at home for a day. 68 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: Here's some facts for you. The average income for a 69 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: secondary teacher at the moment is one hundred grand. That's 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: the average income. That's up from ninety three k three 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: years ago. So what are they actually rejecting, Well, a 72 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: three percent increase over three years, so that is below 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: current inflation. But that's on top of an annual pay 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: progression of four and a half to seven and a 75 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: half percent. Now what is annual pay progression. That's basically 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: where you get paid more every year just for being 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: there for you know, staying in the job for a 78 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: long time. That is two and a half to seven 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: thousand dollars per year for most teachers. Two and a 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: half to seven thousand dollars per year for most teachers 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: at a time when people are out of work, you 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: don't even have a job, or they're struggling, when the 83 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: government is rightly cutting its cloth. I think it sounds 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: a bit greedy, and I think that the timing of 85 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: this is off. In support from the public. I don't 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 3: think there's going to be much of it for teachers, 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: unfortunately for them. Ten minutes after five, I am such 88 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: a new numbers for you, by the way, this morning 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: on a survey. This is like sentiment and trends in 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: our exporters, and we know that the primary industries are 91 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: doing very well at the moment. So this is twenty 92 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: twenty five exporting z DHL Export barometer done every year. 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: Two interesting numbers given the trade war sitch. At the moment, 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 3: eight percent of our exporters spital Of that, eighty percent 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: about exporters either maintained or grew their export volumes over 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: the past year. Sixty percent expect to increase their exports 97 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: in the next year. Heavi itt to all of this 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: as the survey was done when the rate was ten percent. 99 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: Of course now it's gone to fifteen percent. So you 100 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: have to you know, how much do you send to 101 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: the US? Can we make up the slack in other markets? 102 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: There will be more to come on that another survey, 103 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure. Most interestingly, I think the exporters are looking, 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: if we can't do the US, where are we going 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: to go? Most of them are saying either the UK 106 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: or Japan. Eleven after five news talks, they'd be will 107 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: give you those n CEO results next. 108 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 109 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one Route Love where you Live News Talks. 110 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: The'd been nine two nine two the number to text 111 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: this morning. Great to have your company. It is fourteen 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: minutes after five New NCAA achievement data out mixed results. 113 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: Umber of students achieving NCAA Level one down to the 114 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: lowest level in a decade, down slightly but still the 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: lowest in a decade. NCAA levels two and three posting 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: the first increase in pass rate since the beginning of 117 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: the pandemic. So starting to sort of turn the corner 118 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: and well, all of this systems out the door anyway soon. 119 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: Andy England is Starfield High School principal with us this morning. Andy, 120 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning Ryan. What's up with level one 121 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: do you think? 122 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 7: I think it's pretty well known at school. Haven't been 123 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 7: prioritizing level one for quite some time, but there are 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 7: also a few other things been happening there. That's the 125 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 7: level where the experimentation happened with new standards. The Ministry 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 7: was before the decision to change all of the standards. 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 7: There's a lot of playing with Level one, so I 128 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 7: think teachers were getting the head around it, and some 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 7: of some of the introduction materials were absolutely awful, arrived late, 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 7: and we're not high quality at all, so that may 131 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 7: have affected that. Two. We've also got the CAA, your 132 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 7: core exams of literacy and numeracy, and a few students 133 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 7: have struggled with those. If you remember, they came in 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 7: at the highest standard, which is great, but there wasn't 135 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 7: there one that there weren't the years of teaching to 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 7: match the standard, so students were several students were put 137 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 7: off by those who we say, so, I think the 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 7: combination of factors will affected Level one. In areas like ours. 139 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 7: There are still there are still jobs in the out 140 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 7: there for students who they don't need qualifications. You know, 141 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 7: there are people looking for young people to start work 142 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 7: without qualifications, and the temptation for somebody who doesn't see 143 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 7: an academic future to start getting paid for work is 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 7: high for a few people, and that's not a high number, 145 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 7: but they all add up. 146 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: So live one actually doesn't really matter that much if 147 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: you're leaving school. Who cares. 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 7: Lots of the lots of people have still got role 149 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 7: models who are self employed trades. They're driving around with 150 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 7: a nice new ut and the boat and they left 151 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 7: school at fifteen, and they're quite happy to tell everybody that. 152 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 7: So there's certainly some role modeling. What about that happens? 153 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: What about level two and three is increased? I mean 154 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: it's a slide increase. But are we finally turning that 155 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 3: COVID hangover corner? Do you think? 156 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 7: I think it's too early to say that. I think 157 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 7: what's happened is we've had a few years, not many, 158 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 7: two three years to focus and get some students back 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 7: up to speed. Their school teachers are pretty good at 160 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 7: at wrapping around students, and I guess NCAA does give 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 7: that sort of flexibility, which is one of the features 162 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 7: that's been criticized recently. Think at level two, so yeah, 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 7: I think students are also realizing that they actually at 164 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 7: that level once they've stayed on in. 165 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 6: School for a while. 166 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 7: I think they understand they need to get a qualification. 167 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 7: It's totally anecdotal, but I've noticed over the years, whenever 168 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 7: you see a dip in the economy, and there are 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 7: a fewer of those other jobs around us talking about 170 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 7: students realize that they need to get a qualification. So 171 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 7: those are the stick in school. I think are focusing 172 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 7: a bit better, and that's a really positive thing. 173 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, your construction jobs are gone, your heroes, your ambassadors 174 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: are gone. So they stayed at their compete. 175 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 7: Yeah sorry, sorry, Right, they're competing against adults in the 176 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 7: late twenties, so they've got to get. 177 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 6: It back together. 178 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: Hey, what about the strikes. I know that's not what 179 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: we've got you on for, but do you think there's 180 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: going to be support from pearents for this? 181 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 7: Interesting? I think there were limits of support last time, 182 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 7: but I think the situations this time. This time, there's 183 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 7: been a lot of news obviously about the changes that 184 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 7: we're all going to need to make with the education system. 185 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 7: I appreciate this talk in the long term, but it's 186 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 7: certainly not going to do anything in the next three years. 187 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 7: Teachers are going to need to work harder than ever, probably, 188 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 7: and one percent we know is a net net sort 189 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 7: of decrease in income. So I guess i'd ask you 190 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 7: the question, what would you say if your boss says 191 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 7: we needed to work harder and more difficult commissions, We're 192 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 7: going to pay you less. 193 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you've got your pay progression, which according 194 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: to the Public Service Commission, they reckon that's up four 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 3: and a half to seven and a half percent on 196 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: your pay when you when you add that into the mix, yeah. 197 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 7: Hey, there's going to be some new answers that they're 198 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 7: going to need to do that we'll need to be 199 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 7: debated through. I can't deny it. It's a pretty rapid 200 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 7: trigger to a strike. And certainly I got a shotgun 201 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 7: and saw that yesterday. But I don't think anybody would 202 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 7: be expect would be surprised to see some resistance. There 203 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 7: are some other layers to the in the offer there, 204 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 7: not just pay related that aren't aren't great for teachers. 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 7: So now I think I think most parents will have 206 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 7: some sympathy for teachers at the moment, everybody knows it's 207 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 7: a tough place to work in school. When Australia's paying 208 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 7: significantly more than what we do. We're not going to 209 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 7: do anything to halt the teacher shortage if we're not 210 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 7: going to make some conditions better. 211 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: Andy, appreciate your time this morning, thanks for coming on 212 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: and they England Darfield High School Principal time is eighten 213 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: minutes after five coming up next, we got it. Well, 214 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to run you through a couple of numbers. 215 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: One of them is how often are we swiping our cards? 216 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: Because that's an indication of how the economy is performing. 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: But also we'll look at property prices, how much on 218 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: paper profit are people making from selling their homes? All 219 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: ahead news talksic be. 220 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to study your day. It's 221 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge and one roof love 222 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: where you Live news. 223 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: Talks had me five twenty one morning. Ryan. Obviously the 224 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: NCAA Level one results are dipping, and the way to 225 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: fix that is to pay the teachers more for their 226 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: excellent work. This is ridiculous, says our text. I haven't 227 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: had a pay rise since the COVID years. I think 228 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: that's what people are going to think when they look 229 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: at this. Looks a bit greedy. We had the principle 230 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: on just earlier, said he was surprised they look a 231 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: bit trigger happy on the strikes the teachers. Twenty one 232 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: minutes after five news talk said b Allen says, Ryan, 233 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: no sympathy for those guys. Let's look at property. Property 234 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: own has seen the lowest resale profits in over a decade. 235 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 3: This is from Cotality's latest Pain and Game report. Eighty 236 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: nine point four percent of homes sold above their purchase 237 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: price last quarter. That is the lowest since twenty fourteen, 238 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: but still means the hell of a lot of us 239 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: are selling and getting a profit, well on paper. Matt 240 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: Ball News ill On Property Investors Federation is with us 241 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: this morning. Matt, Good morning, morning Ryan. It's interesting when 242 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: you look at the who's you know, which area is 243 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: christ Church pretty resilient. Auckland's actually the highest proportion of 244 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: loss makers. 245 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Auckland's doing it a bit tough at the moment. 246 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 6: And you know, this is really interesting data. This is 247 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 6: hard data based on real sales and real purchases. It's yeah, 248 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 6: it's very tough for Auckland. I think a lot of 249 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 6: people here bought at the peak, and there may maybe 250 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 6: some people who are being forced to sell when they 251 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 6: don't really want to and they have to take a loss. 252 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: For a property investor, what do you do in a 253 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: situation like that? Do you sit on your property for 254 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: longer and hold out and wait? 255 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, for a property investor, it doesn't mean a lot 256 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 6: to be honest, unless you brought it the peak and 257 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 6: you have to sell for some reason, then this is 258 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: just another cycle and you write it out. If you 259 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 6: bought it ten years ago, well it was the COVID 260 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 6: blip that sort of shot the market up. And it 261 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 6: doesn't really matter. Prices went up too far. Now they're correcting. 262 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: You just keep holding your property. It's if you're forced 263 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 6: to sell then that's when it becomes a problem. 264 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: Where are Auckland investors buying right now? Are they buying 265 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: in Auckland because prices are relatively more know either falling 266 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: or stable, or are they looking elsewhere? 267 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 6: Investors are buying in lots of different locations. So I 268 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 6: was at one of our associations, the Aukland Associations, beating 269 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 6: the other night and people were saying, I've got a 270 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 6: great property in christ Church being a great return. You 271 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 6: guys should head down there and have a look, and 272 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 6: other people were saying different parts of the country. So 273 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 6: in Auckland absolutely, but also right around the country. 274 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: Matt, appreciate your time this morning, Matt Bull, New Zealand 275 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: Property Investors Federation. On those new numbers and on paper profits. 276 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: I don't like the word profits when it comes to 277 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: property because you don't know what people have done to 278 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: the house. In the interim twenty four minutes after five, 279 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: Next this whole pilava with COVID and the inquiry and 280 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: whether Robertson, Adern, Hipkins and Verel should front to you, 281 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: should they be live streamed beamed into your living room 282 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: one last time, not with them in control, but with 283 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: an inquiry in control of COVID information twenty four after 284 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: five News Talks VB. 285 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: The early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 286 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: by NEWSTALKSB. 287 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: News Talks B twenty six minutes after five. What has 288 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: Hipkins and co? Got to hide over COVID Yesterday? They 289 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: wheeled out three excuses, not one, not two, but three 290 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: for not fronting up and answering questions about why they 291 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: went so hard on lockdowns and mandates, which they then 292 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: papered over with sixty six billion dollars in spending second 293 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: in the world only to the US, thereby helping fuel 294 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: the inflation that we're now paying the price for taming. 295 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: First excuse we heard they wouldn't attend the public hearing 296 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: because they were worried about how the public might react, 297 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: that some might use their videos to spread misinformation. The 298 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: inquiry itself basically said that nonsense. The public interest in 299 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: them appearing outweighed the risk of some nutter altering their 300 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: video and sharing it on Facebook. Number Two, we then 301 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: had Hipkins front for a stand up with another reason. 302 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: I already answered these questions on a daily basis, he said, 303 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: which again makes no sense. If you were worried about 304 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: videos being docted for misinformation and misinformation being spread, would 305 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: it not apply as much to those comments in the media, 306 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: which are of course videoed and published as they would 307 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: be to the video live stream from a public inquiry. Three. 308 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: Then there's the excuses provided to the inquiry itself. They 309 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: were worried about blowback from the public online, that it 310 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: might turn into some sort of witch hunt. This is 311 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: perhaps the most egregious and insulting excuse of them all. 312 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: During the COVID years, they were more than happy to 313 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: troll us members of the public from the podium of truth. 314 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: They were more than happy to engage in a little 315 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: witch hunting of their own. Bit Charlotte Ballast, the border 316 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: crosses the River of filth. They used the media to 317 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: hammer their opponents as conspiracy theorists, anyone who disagreed with them. 318 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: They anointed many a public enemy number one while they 319 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: were in control of the narrative, and that's really what 320 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: this is about. Controlling the narrative. The wall to wall coverage, 321 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: the one PM podium sermons cynically helped secure them a 322 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: historic majority in twenty twenty. As the old saying goes, 323 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: you can fall some of the people all of the time, 324 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: all of the people some of the time, but you 325 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: can't fool all of the people all of the time. 326 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: These guys know they've been found out, most recently by 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: that embarrassing Treasury report, and now that they can't control 328 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: the narrative, it looks like they're running for the hills. 329 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: Brayam Bridge twenty. 330 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: Nine after five news talks, there'd be lots more to come. 331 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: Mitch McCann out of the US on Trump and putin 332 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: big meeting this weekend, and we have developments on Trump's 333 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: on Ukraine. Also, we will talk to Brook van Velden. 334 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: She's the minister in charge of this COVID inquiry and 335 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: can they can the inquiry force these guys to come 336 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: and appear. We'll ask her that question later on Good Morning. 337 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: It is Thursday. You're on News Talks EB. 338 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 4: You puzzlector. 339 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on earlier ish Where's one roof Love? Where 340 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: you live? Used talks B. 341 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 3: Good morning, twenty four away from six year on News 342 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: Talks MB. I'm Ryan Bridge, Brook van Velden, the Minister 343 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: in charge of COVID inquiries with US just before six 344 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: the countdown on now to the Trump Putin meeting two 345 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: days to go and Mitch mccamnon and has insight into 346 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: Trump's game plan this morning he's with US shortly. Luxon 347 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: meanwhile is the lead story on CNN this morning. For 348 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: this comment about Gaza and Nettan Yahoo. 349 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 9: I think Netanyahoo has gone way too far. I think 350 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 9: he has lost the plot. And I think that you know, 351 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 9: what we're saying overnight of the attack on Gaza City 352 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 9: is utterly usly unacceptable. 353 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. The problem with that, well, I mean that's all true. However, 354 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: the problem I think with what he's saying is that 355 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: he didn't say it from the beginning. You know, if 356 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: you look at those pictures and you feel a certain way, 357 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: and this is your personal view, then say it from 358 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: the outset. Don't wait till Chloe forces your hand, which 359 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: is what this looks like now twenty three to six. Rich, 360 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: Just take a look around the country now, Callum Procter 361 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: and Dnedan Cullum. Good morning morning, right hey, big day 362 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: for Queenstown Airport today. Yeah, look at it is. 363 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 10: It celebrates its ninetieth birthday today. The beautiful Southern Airport 364 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 10: one of New Zealand's oldest commercial airports and still operating 365 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 10: on its original site of the old Frankton race Course. 366 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 10: Since it began in nineteen thirty five. The airport has 367 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 10: evolved since then into an international gateway. It welcomes more 368 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 10: than two point six million passengers a year, making it 369 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 10: the fourth busiest in New Zealand. The board chair Simon 370 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 10: Floods told us it's important for them to look back 371 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 10: with gratitude for the entrepreneurs who laid the foundations for 372 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 10: the airport. This is then how managing its growth to 373 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 10: ensure it continues to meet the needs of the people 374 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 10: of the Southern Lakes for decades to come. 375 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: How's the weather for their birthday? 376 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 10: You look good for Queenstown today eleven and fine, same 377 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 10: for Dunedin. Fine the high thirteen today. 378 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: Nice Collum, Thank you Clais and christ Church. Hey Claire, 379 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: good morning. Tell us about this bridge. 380 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 11: A bit of an upgrade, Yeah, a massive upgrade for 381 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 11: the Pages Road bridge. The Government and council have reached 382 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 11: a co funding agreement for this. It's a seventy five 383 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 11: point four million dollar job. The Council has been speaking 384 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 11: about this bridge for a very long time but have 385 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 11: always se that any works or any revamp of it 386 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 11: would not be possible without government funds. It's almost one 387 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 11: hundred year old. It was very badly damaged in the quakes. 388 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 11: It has been patch repaired and strengthened ever since, most 389 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 11: recently in twenty fifteen. Minister for the South Island and 390 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 11: Associate Transport Minister James Meagher says this revamp will be 391 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 11: very welcome used for those in the Cities East. He 392 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 11: says it will also come with a package of works, 393 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 11: including the roads either side of the bridge, which are 394 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 11: very prone to flooding and erosion, which will be upgraded 395 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 11: at the same time. 396 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather? 397 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 11: Very frosty this morning, but should clear to find northeasterlyes 398 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 11: developing and we're on the way to twelve. 399 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: Have it Creton but still a bit chilly, but have 400 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: a great day, Claire Adam Cooper's and Wellington Hay Adam 401 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: willing Ryn. Affordable housing high on the list of priorities 402 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: for Merril candidate Andrew Little. 403 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, certainly the most high profile candidate in 404 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: the race. Here what he made one of his first 405 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: campaign announcements yesterday focusing on making the capital more of 406 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: afordable for renters, and he's also said working families are 407 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: a focus for him as well. So he's given this 408 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: housing affordability policy basically wants to increase the construction of 409 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: affordable housing right through the city. 410 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: A few ways. 411 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: He says he would like to do this speed up 412 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: consents by giving the Council Chief Executive new KPIs to 413 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: bring down times to process building and resource consents. And 414 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: he's used those words red tape. He wants to reduce 415 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: the unnecessary red tape for developments within the district Plan. 416 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 4: And he's pretty much saying that for far too many 417 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 4: people right now, Wellington isn't an affordable place to live. 418 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: Rents are too high, many working people can't even dream 419 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 4: of owning their own home in the city. And at 420 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: the sharp end, we're obviously seeing a growing homelessness crisis 421 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 4: on the streets too. So whether that will achieve what 422 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: he's set out to do, I guess time will tell. 423 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 4: All right, how's your weather at him? Fine morning, Frost's 424 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: around to start things off with north east and also twelve. 425 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 3: Nice one and nevas in Auckland. Good morning, good to morning. 426 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: Let there be liked never. 427 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 5: He said, like count Dracula for goodness sake. Yes, and 428 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 5: that is right. Because road access ryan to the historic 429 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 5: Monaco Heads Lighthouse now that's been restored. This is after 430 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: two and a half years, so Auckland Transport has been 431 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 5: very busy wrapping up the construction. This is on this 432 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 5: new section of Monaco Heads Road. It was rendered impassable 433 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 5: by landslipe now that happened during cycling Gabrielle back in 434 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. So Monaco Heads Lighthouse Trust sees it's 435 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 5: welcoming seeing life return to the site. I've never been there. 436 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: I've just actually had a look on the website. It 437 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 5: looks amazing and you can actually, you know, just for 438 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: that lighthouse. You can it's you know, like for weekends 439 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: and you can take a stroll up there. So it's 440 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 5: great now that this road is finally, you know, like reopened. 441 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: It's quite a beautiful part. 442 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, people get obsessed with light. How there's one at 443 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: Cape Palliser down in Wellington that people go and like 444 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: do a Sunday drive and go and visit. 445 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 5: But is it like you've been to one lighthouse? You've 446 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 5: seen them all? 447 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 3: I think so it's like churches. 448 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 5: I was looking one there. 449 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: What's that screen lighthouse? Where that one's from? This is 450 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: in the background of the studio. I don't know where 451 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: that lighthouse is from. They're all meant to be quite 452 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: with this, the beehive, there's the skytower and a random 453 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: lighthouse probably the Monico Heads. Hey how's that weather? Fine? 454 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: Morning frosts again in shelter places for Auckland fifteen to 455 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 5: height Todays one. 456 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: Neither think you great, to see you as always eighteen 457 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: minutes away from six. Quick update for you. This is 458 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: not important, but you know Brad Pitt's house got broken 459 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: into when he went to he was filming the IF 460 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: one movie and his house which, by the way, this 461 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: news article from the US gives us address. I would 462 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: have thought if you Brad Pitt in the newspapers publishing 463 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: your address, not a great thing North Edgemont Drive. For 464 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: anyone who's visiting Los Angeles, that's Brigelibs. Anyway, So these kids, 465 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: they've arrested for people sixteen to eighteen year olds arrested 466 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: for breaking into Brad Pitt's house. Mentioned what would be 467 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: in there? How much stuff you could steal, not just 468 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: valuable stuff but interesting stuff, collectible items. Anyway, they break in, 469 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 3: they've been arrested. But they're part of a criminal gang, 470 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: street gang targeting, specifically targeting celebrities homes, so they find 471 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: out where they live. They wait till they know they're 472 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: away filming a movie, and then bam, they're in there. 473 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: Eighteen minutes away from six News talks they'll be Mitch mccannon. 474 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: Is next, International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace 475 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: of Mind for New Zealand Business. 476 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: Newtok theb It's quartered to six Brook Van Velden. Next 477 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: right now, Mitch McCann are US correspondent. Mitch, Good morning, Ryan, 478 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: how are you very well? Thank you? Trump pooshon meeting 479 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: obviously Saturday our time, Friday, your time going to be 480 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: a big one. And we're hearing a little bit about 481 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: Trump's game plan. Yeah, that's right. 482 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 12: He's had a meeting this morning with world leaders or 483 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 12: European leaders. Rather, they've been trying to get him on 484 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 12: the phone to speak among themselves and with Volodi Mezelenski, 485 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 12: and they say they hammered out a strategy today with 486 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 12: the President before this meeting in Alaska. And one of 487 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 12: the things they are really insisting on is they are 488 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 12: making sure that before any peace plan happens, or any 489 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 12: territory swaps or anything like that, Vladimir Putin has to 490 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 12: agree to a ceasefire first. And the other thing they 491 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 12: want is that there's going to be no negotiations for 492 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 12: land swaps without Ukraine at the table. Now, what is 493 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 12: interesting here is the White House is sort of playing 494 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 12: down what might come out of this. They called it 495 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 12: a listening exercise yesterday, a chance for Trump to really 496 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 12: listen to Putin in terms of what he wants. So 497 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 12: we're not really expecting a complete peace deal here. But 498 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 12: Donald Trump does want to get something out of this, 499 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 12: so he's going to listen to Putin and he's hoping 500 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 12: for a ceasefire before perhaps a second meeting that involves Zelenski. 501 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 12: But he did say today two reporters if there is 502 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 12: not an agreement on some sort of ceasefire on Friday, 503 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 12: there will be very severe consequences. Without elaborating on what 504 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 12: exactly they'll. 505 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: Be, okay, but cryptic. How are you sweaty, betty right now? 506 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at it's thirty one degrees feels like 507 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: thirty four in New York City. Quite hot in the US. 508 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 12: Yeah, bit of a sweaty betty here the UN Office, Ryan, 509 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 12: but it's much hotter in Arizona, where it's reported four 510 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 12: hundred people may have died from heat exhaustion this year 511 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 12: in Maricopa County. Now, get this, it's about I think 512 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 12: it's the thirteenth of August today here in the US. 513 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 12: Every day in August so far this year in Arizona, 514 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 12: it's been at least forty three degrees celsius. So it 515 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 12: is scorching hot and they're struggling to keep people safe. 516 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 12: They have this problem every year. They set up things like, 517 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 12: you know, calling rooms at local councils and local schools 518 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 12: and things like that. But at the moment, they suspect 519 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 12: up to four hundred people may have died because of 520 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 12: the heat. 521 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: Very hot. Thanks smtch, take care, Mitch, mcan Our, us 522 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: correspondent thirteen minutes away from six Ryan Bridge, Jacinta Adan, 523 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: Chris Hoipkins won't be showing face at the Royal Commission 524 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: of Inquiry into COVID nineteen and now they've decided to 525 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: shut down the second week of public hearings. Is basically 526 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: they're no longer justified. Brook van Velden, minister responsible for 527 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 3: this inquiry, joins us. Now our good morning. 528 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: Minister, Good morning Ryan. 529 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: Can you change the terms of reference to force these 530 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: guys to turn up? 531 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 6: Oh? 532 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not changing the terms of reference because it 533 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: is possible for the Commission to issue a legal summons 534 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: to them. However, I don't think it's really the fault 535 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: of the Commission that they've been forced into the situation 536 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: of needing to make that decision. It would have been 537 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: much easier if Justinder Iurdourne and Chris Hipkins just do 538 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: the right thing and turned up to the public hearings. 539 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: And so, you know, while there might be some focus 540 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: on the commissioners who have been forced into this decision, 541 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: this is really about the fact that Justinder Idourne and 542 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: Chris Hipkins were very willing to stand publicly every single 543 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: day and make huge decisions on people's lives quite publicly, 544 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: but are unable to do that or unwilling to do 545 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: that now. So I think it's quite confusing for many 546 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: members of the public who are still feeling the effects 547 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 2: of the COVID lockdown. 548 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 3: It is including Richard who says, yeah, I'm completely flabbergasted 549 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: by this. They should be forced to be called as witnesses. 550 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: This is a COVID nineteen Royal Commission of inquiry. Why 551 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: doesn't the government force them? You know you could do that, 552 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: couldn't you, Brook? So why not? 553 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: Well, we cannot as the government force their commission to 554 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: do any particular thing. It is an independent inquiry, and 555 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: that's really important because all Royal commissions are independent. My 556 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: belief is that the terms of reference does allow the 557 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: commissioners to use a summons if they would wish. However, 558 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: what they have described in their public minute and in 559 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: conversations with me is the difficulty of you know, the 560 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: terms of reference for this commission is not to try 561 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: and find blame or act like a court of law. 562 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: It is to be a fact finding mission, yes, to 563 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: enhance public confidence so that we have better play and 564 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: for the future of the pandemic ever happened. And now 565 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: the difficulty that the Register and there I don and 566 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: cricipns have put the commissioners in is if they are 567 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: forced to issue legal summons is then obviously it becomes 568 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: adversarial and legalistic, and I think that's a real shame 569 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: that they've been forced into the situation. 570 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: Which is that this is the problem right elling With 571 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: has said that it is our opinion that the use 572 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: of summons is to achieve their participation into public hearing 573 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: would be legalistic and adversarial, which are terms of reference prohibit. 574 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: So the problem is the terms of reference. I mean, 575 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: either you want them and it's important for them to 576 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: be they're publicly facing up, or it's not. 577 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think this is really focusing too much on, 578 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: you know, the commissioners and the decision that they're needing 579 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: to land at, whereas we would never be in this 580 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: situation if they just did what the commission had asked. 581 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: And I think the difficulty that the commissioners are in 582 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: is if they are are forcing and using a legal summons, 583 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: what is it going to be like in the actual 584 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: public hearing? Is it going to be a fact finding mission? 585 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: Or is it going to be legalist, is it going 586 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: to be adversarial? Is it becoming a blame finding a 587 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: mission where the public hearing may not actually get what 588 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: it deserves. And I think that's the real difficulty of 589 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: forcing somebody to appear. Chris Hipkins really should just do 590 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: the right thing, appear in public like he did every 591 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: single day at the one pm briefings. And I think 592 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: the real question is why is it that they are 593 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: willing to give the commission information in private but not 594 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: in public like they did during the COVID lockdown years. 595 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: Brook, appreciate your time this morning. Brook van Valden is 596 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: the Minister in charge of the COVID nineteen inquiry. It 597 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: is eight minutes away from six. Mike, by the way, 598 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: is going to be interviewing Chris Hipkins just after seven 599 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: o'clock this morning live here on News Talk CEB. He 600 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: is with us in the studio. 601 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: Next News you Need this morning and the in depth 602 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Room Love 603 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: where you Live News Talks. 604 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: That'd be good morning. It six away from six on 605 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: News Talks, he'd be David Lammy, who's the Foreign Sectory 606 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: in the UK, and jd Vance. They had a bit 607 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: of a mandate, a little bilateral meeting, a bit of 608 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: summer fishing in Kent in the UK, and they both 609 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: broke the law. They were illegally fishing. What kind of 610 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: staffer of David Lammy's didn't sort out the license of 611 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: fishing licenses that you need. Apparently jd Vance's kids are 612 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: the only one who actually caught fish. But the Foreign 613 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: sectary has now had to report himself to the Environment 614 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: Agency because they failed to get the necessary rod license. 615 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: There you go, two crooks, six to. 616 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: Six, Ryan BRIDGEB. 617 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: And Mike's here next with Chris Sipkins on the show 618 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: this morning. Yeah, what a thrill. 619 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 13: That will be so funny. What do you reckon the 620 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 13: process is when you decide to do what he's done, 621 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 13: because it's someone in the must have said, yes, this 622 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 13: is going to look really bad for you and he 623 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 13: and you can't argue it doesn't look bad for him. 624 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you get what they What he did is 625 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: get on the blower to just We'll get on the 626 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: blower to Grant and just Cinda and I share and 627 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 3: they did a conference call and they decided this is 628 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: not for. 629 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 13: Us, no fair enough but if you're Grant and Cinda, 630 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 13: you don't care because you're elsewhere and you're not held 631 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 13: accountable anymore. He's got to go back to the public 632 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 13: of New Zealand next year and go, remember me last 633 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 13: time I was in charge of stuff, Here's what happened. 634 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 13: And also, by the way, when they went to ask 635 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 13: me some questions about some of that stuff, that didn't 636 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 13: really want to turn up. 637 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: The thing that the number of excuses we heard from 638 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: them yesterday that they'll Tampa with the video I don't 639 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: want to be just shouldn't be a witch hunt, which 640 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: is exactly what they did to people from. 641 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 13: The pod percent. The thing is, that's what fascinates me 642 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 13: most of all is it's indefensible. There's not an argument 643 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 13: to your point. Those excuses are pathetic. We all know 644 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 13: they're pathetic, and somebody surely within that party goes, look, 645 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 13: I know it could look bad or whatever, but this 646 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 13: it's the worst option is not fronting. 647 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the political calculation would be that do 648 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: people still care? That that's fair point the care factor, 649 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: Because there was a clip on the news last night 650 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: a couple of boxes and a couple of them said, 651 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: oh jeez. 652 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 13: That was Yeah, but did you see the people who 653 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 13: said it. I mean, if vox pops a representative of 654 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 13: New Zealand, then we're all finished. So I wouldn't place 655 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 13: any weight on those. But yeah, you're right, so the 656 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 13: time thing is. But believe me, if I was running 657 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 13: against him, I'd run the capital gains tax. Yeah, I'd 658 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 13: run his support for Hamas, and I'd run him not 659 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 13: turning up to COVID. And if I can't win an 660 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 13: election on that and that alone, then I don't deserve 661 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 13: to be the Prime Minister. 662 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking forward to this interview, Mike, Well, what 663 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: do you do? 664 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 13: I mean, it's pathetic. 665 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: Is there a rare gym? You and Chippy? Me and 666 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: Chips Dad Don that's at seven o'clock this morning News 667 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 3: Talk said. 668 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. 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