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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: The only place for the.

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Speaker 1: Big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Pine

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Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Hello there, Kyota, good afternoon and welcome into the Weekend

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Speaker 2: Sport Therapy session for Sunday, September fourteenth. Thank goodness for

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Speaker 2: the Black Ferns.

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Speaker 3: Second half excellence in Exeter, What sport? The Black Ferns

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Speaker 3: semifinal bound at the Rugby World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Are shining lights and a pretty miserable night of sports viewing. First,

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Speaker 2: this shall be the final.

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Speaker 4: Play Tendre take it in and the Penrith Panthers. He

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Speaker 4: turn to Auckland. A proven why they are the back

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Speaker 4: to back to back to back champions. They have won

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Speaker 4: little elimination final, they have beaten the Warriors. Heir in Auckland,

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Speaker 4: twenty four toys to wait and then this he boots.

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Speaker 5: That enter touch and a thoroughly embarrassing night for the

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Speaker 5: All Blacks, but a wonderful night forced South Africa. They

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Speaker 5: have demolished the All Blacks they have humiliated the All

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Speaker 5: Blacks forty three ten.

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Speaker 2: All Blacks assistant coach Jason Ryan is standing by the

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Speaker 2: talk with us. Then your reaction to what happened last

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Speaker 2: night in Wellington. Lines open immediately and right across the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: We're going to cover off the Blackburns after two with

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Speaker 2: World Cup winner in twenty seventeen Christina Sue, who was

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Speaker 2: part of the commentary team last night. They're into the semis.

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Speaker 2: They'll play Canada next Saturday morning six o'clock. Warriors assistant

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Speaker 2: coach Slade Griffin with us later on as well to

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Speaker 2: reflect on the team's season and their exits from the

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Speaker 2: final series last night. James mcconey and his regular slot,

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Speaker 2: but a live sport this afternoon as well, but the

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Speaker 2: show is yours to a large extent. Lines open on

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two

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Speaker 2: for your text messages emails to Jason at Newstalk SEDB

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Speaker 2: dot co dot NZ eight past midday.

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Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every fields

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Speaker 1: weekend sport with Jason Pine, News Talk.

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Speaker 5: ZMB two minutes of sport, You're to endure thirty six

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Speaker 5: ten spring box lead ball in midfield, so they want

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Speaker 5: another one live Bok now for Villimsa down the left

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Speaker 5: hand side of the park, Willimser squirming through now finding

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Speaker 5: Williams cutting shapes off loading Hester Hazen. They're going to

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Speaker 5: score another forty.

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Speaker 6: One ten.

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Speaker 2: Kip to come.

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Speaker 5: It's the box ever, biggest ever went over the All.

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Speaker 2: Blacks South Africa forty three All Blacks ten All Blacks

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Speaker 2: Assistant coach Jason Ryan is with us. What happened?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, disappointing. We just basically lost all our momentum.

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Speaker 8: We Yeah, we had a bit of a.

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Speaker 7: Meltdown and a couple of decisions under pressure and just

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Speaker 7: couldn't get any rhythm and they got away in.

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Speaker 8: That second half.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, we've got to take a pretty hard look

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Speaker 7: at ourselves, to be honest. Yeah, I think we, uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, we lost a little bit of momentum and

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Speaker 7: timing and our set piece as well. That's that's on me.

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Speaker 7: I'll take responsibility for that. We missed a couple of

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Speaker 7: couple of lineouts at key times where the scrum was.

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Speaker 7: I think the scrum count was they won three penalties,

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Speaker 7: we won, we won two, So that was they got

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Speaker 7: a head there in one. So yeah, I'll just take

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Speaker 7: four responsibility for my air and the set piece. We've

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Speaker 7: got to have a real hard look at ourselves in

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Speaker 7: that part of our game because we pride ourselves on

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Speaker 7: that and we just went up to to par last night.

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Speaker 2: How did the performance deteriorate so much compared to last week.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's a great question. Look, i haven't looked

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Speaker 7: at all of the game yet. I've only got to

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Speaker 7: just after halftime. I thought we played some more some rugby,

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Speaker 7: and the ball and hand in the first forty was

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Speaker 7: right on, and then you know, halftime, the boys felt

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Speaker 7: fresh and we just yeah that we just made era

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Speaker 7: after era and then some when we did win some lineouts,

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Speaker 7: I thought our kicking was not good enough and we

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Speaker 7: to be fair, So when we review that deeply, we've

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Speaker 7: got to make some adjustment adjustments pretty quick. We put

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Speaker 7: we put a lot into that dismatch. We put we

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Speaker 7: thought we had a great week in preparation. We you know,

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Speaker 7: wasn't so much performing the putting together the same performance

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Speaker 7: same mental performance, and I just don't think we were there.

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Speaker 7: I think everyone could have seen that that last half

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Speaker 7: we just didn't come out of the blocks and we

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Speaker 7: didn't get any rhythm up. I can't really explain any

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Speaker 7: simply that, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how do you explain that that in the

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Speaker 2: second half it just all fell apart so spectacularly.

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Speaker 9: It did.

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Speaker 7: We missed I think forty odd tackles or forty plus tackles.

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Speaker 7: It was pretty much every part of our game just misfunctioned.

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Speaker 7: The box got a roll on, they played smart, and

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Speaker 7: to be honest, gave us a lesson.

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Speaker 2: Do you think some players gave up near the end?

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't like to say that.

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Speaker 7: I hope that wasn't the case on these boys year. Look,

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Speaker 7: I know that the performance doesn't look like that. That

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Speaker 7: there was much kere shown, but where we just couldn't

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Speaker 7: we lost it and we just, yeah, we just weren't

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Speaker 7: there under pressure when it' matter. I can't put it

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Speaker 7: any simpler than that. We'll take full responsibility for that

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Speaker 7: as a forwards coach and we've got. We've got to

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Speaker 8: We know that we have to be.

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Speaker 2: Now, do you expect to face scrutiny after this?

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Speaker 8: Yep, and we should.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the things that will be worrying

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Speaker 8: Probably everything that I've covered.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've got the ownership part of areas of

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Speaker 7: sets under pressure. I've pretty much just covered and I

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Speaker 7: think we've got every right to copy it with that performance,

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Speaker 7: and we can't hide from that.

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Speaker 8: I know we won't be either.

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Speaker 2: How has the aerial battle become so challenging for the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's look at it. I think it's challenging. And

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Speaker 8: when you look at all of the games.

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Speaker 7: If I just identify the Rugby Championship, the teams that

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Speaker 7: win the aerial battle often win the test match and

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Speaker 7: the scores they are quite high score games, like you

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Speaker 7: know Australia put what thirty eight points on the spring

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Speaker 8: Park and the area or battle was good over there.

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Speaker 7: So it's it's fighting lines between I think when we kick,

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Speaker 7: That's changed the most, obviously with the escorting laws and

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Speaker 7: that sort of thing. It's a in all honesty, it's

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Speaker 7: a fifty to fifty when that ball's in the air.

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Speaker 2: Why then, aren't we winning more of the fifty fifties?

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Speaker 8: Why are we winning more of the fifty fifties?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, if it's fIF we should win half

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well we did the week before we won most

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Speaker 8: This just last night we didn't.

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Speaker 2: Are you getting what you need from your on field leaders.

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Speaker 8: At times? You know, I think that they will have

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Speaker 8: a look at that as well. When we're calling our.

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Speaker 7: Strapped and what calls are made at the right time

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Speaker 7: in the moment, I think that, you know, there'll be

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Speaker 7: some good ic conversations there.

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Speaker 8: There have to be. But everything starts from the coaching group.

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Speaker 8: We lead it.

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Speaker 7: We give them the information that they have to execute.

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Speaker 8: So, like I said, I'm only talking about my area.

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Speaker 7: I'll take ownership for the set piece side of it,

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Speaker 7: and it's got to be better on me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't think Jason, you can take responsibility

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Speaker 2: for a line out at sixty minutes says seventeen to

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Speaker 2: lot of All Blacks experience and the throw goes to

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Speaker 2: the back. You can't take responsibility for that, can you.

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Speaker 2: That's an on field decision.

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Speaker 7: It is an on flod decision, and that decision there

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Speaker 7: could have been a couple of different options that could

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Speaker 7: have been taken ahead of that one. Yep, there could

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Speaker 7: have been and you know, like that line out, we've

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Speaker 7: got three or four calls that we could have gone to.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Agree with you, Scott Robertson said after the game last night.

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Speaker 2: In order to fix this, you have to be clear

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Speaker 2: can't go chasing a whole bunch of stuff. What do

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Speaker 2: you think the really key things are for the next

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Speaker 2: ten to twelve days ahead of the first let us

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Speaker 7: Well, we've got to address our performing under pressure and

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Speaker 7: obviously the moments that shift in this game so quick,

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Speaker 7: like you know, I was still in the Felix Joanes

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Speaker 7: after the game, he said, cheers on Colby doesn't get

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Speaker 7: that into sept It's a different ball game, you know,

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Speaker 7: and then that's a different score line, and then that's

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Speaker 7: pressure on them realeds he did get it and then

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Speaker 7: that probably shifted the momentum as well. So look, we've

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Speaker 7: decisions we're making at key times.

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Speaker 2: You'll be very open and honest during this chat, jas

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Speaker 2: Is that the feeling that permeates throughout the team as well?

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Speaker 7: Yep, yep, it is. In honesty, Jason Lot, you just

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Speaker 7: can't hide. And you know I've been in teams. I've

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Speaker 7: been in probably the All Blacks as well, and that

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Speaker 7: taking them test a few years ago and they gave

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Speaker 7: us a decent toil up then. So it's how we

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Speaker 7: react from it. We were well off par they played well,

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Speaker 7: but we have to be a lot better. We have

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Speaker 7: to look at ourselves really hard, and that that starts.

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Speaker 8: From the coaches group.

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Speaker 7: I know for myself first and foremost, because I'm responsible.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time this afternoon, Jase, I appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much. Jason Ryan, assistant coach of the All Blacks.

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Speaker 2: Time now for your reaction lines open, oh eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. First things, first, congratulations to South

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Speaker 2: Africa wat a performance and in particular, the second half

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Speaker 2: as good are forty minutes as I can remember from

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Speaker 2: another level and the All Blacks simply had no answers.

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Speaker 2: And we all know that sometimes you just get beaten

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Speaker 2: by a better team, right, that happens, and no team

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Speaker 2: in the world would have lived with the spring Box

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Speaker 2: last night. But the major concern was the manner of

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Speaker 2: the defeat. It was a second half capitulation. There is

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Speaker 2: no other way to describe it. Thirty six unanswered points. Now,

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Speaker 2: the word capitulation does not be long in the same

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Speaker 2: team just as a worldie, and that's what the Springbox

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Speaker 2: And as the points mounted last night, I looked very

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Speaker 11: Actor's forwards and said you know, this.

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Speaker 10: Those guys they brought shame to that jersey last night.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we have some most of First, I

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Speaker 2: Somebody has to say, guys, this is not us, this

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Speaker 2: You know South Africa are going to compete throw it

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Speaker 13: Get it.

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Speaker 2: They score a try twenty four ten and that is

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Speaker 2: when the game changed. Bruce, thanks for your cool, mate,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. James High Hello, James, James, I'm gonna

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Speaker 14: Murray Hi, Oh thanks Hi.

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Speaker 15: I wasn't quite ready for that. Yeah, what a game.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that was proven by Rare, that was proven

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Speaker 2: Murray by Raci Erasmus's team selection. You're right, But I'm sorry, mate,

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Speaker 15: Yes, now, okay, I'll just reply for that. They are

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Speaker 9: We didn't we didn't see.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, and a number of them. Yeah, Murray,

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Speaker 15: You know, it's all that recovery time. Grand Slam Tennis players,

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Speaker 15: God knows. We're right. He peaks at the right time,

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Speaker 2: It's a depth it's a depth argument that you're making, Murray,

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Speaker 16: Hey, hey Bini, Yeah, I sort of agree with a

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Speaker 16: Second game, and I think it comes back to one.

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Speaker 16: person there bringing on in their second teams better than

431
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Speaker 16: the first. You know, Quager Smith is just an outstanding

432
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Speaker 16: player to bring on. And the players are bringing on

433
00:23:04,707 --> 00:23:07,947
Speaker 16: are at equal, not better than their starting players. And

434
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Speaker 16: to me, you've got to admire Rassi's coaching ability, and

435
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Speaker 16: I think it's another And I think in history, I've

436
00:23:14,747 --> 00:23:17,907
Speaker 16: always thought, no matter what our playing squad, we've almost

437
00:23:17,947 --> 00:23:20,547
Speaker 16: always had the best coaches. And I just don't think

438
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Speaker 16: we can say that now. I think we're getting out

439
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Speaker 16: coached and outplayed and outthought in every aspect of the game.

440
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Speaker 16: And I think your interview with the Ryan really showed

441
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Speaker 16: that in that second half. I do think the All

442
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Speaker 16: Blacks look tired, but I think they were outplayed in

443
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Speaker 16: just about every aspect of the game too.

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Speaker 2: And they were in sorry, Mark, in the second half.

445
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Speaker 2: You're right, they were in every aspect. There was not

446
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Speaker 2: a shred of positivity in the second half. First half

447
00:23:46,987 --> 00:23:49,347
Speaker 2: they were okay, Actually try to run up now, I

448
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Speaker 2: try to leroy cart up at the second half. That's

449
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Speaker 2: what we remember from ten to seven ahead to forty

450
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Speaker 2: three to ten on the scoreboard. Look, public speaking is

451
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Speaker 2: not everyone strong. So can we just transition across to

452
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Speaker 2: the Scott Barrett thing just for a second, because there's

453
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Speaker 2: a lot of feedback coming through about US match interview.

454
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Speaker 2: Public speaking isn't everybody strong, suit, and not every captain.

455
00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,067
Speaker 2: Just a few minutes after the final whistle can articulate

456
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Speaker 2: their thoughts eloquently. Scott Barrett's clearly hugely respected within that team,

457
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Speaker 2: but all Blacks fans probably need a bit more from

458
00:24:23,947 --> 00:24:27,827
Speaker 2: him after defeats. It's natural to compare him to others

459
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Speaker 2: and say that guy speaks a lot better than this

460
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Speaker 2: one does. But that's not a reason to change your captain.

461
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Speaker 2: What does deserve scrutiny, as I say, is some of

462
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Speaker 2: the on field decision making the line out I just

463
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Speaker 2: talked about. That is a failure of on field leadership.

464
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Speaker 2: That one. It's a bad decision, a bad decision, and

465
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Speaker 2: hindsight will show you the consequences of that bad decision

466
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Speaker 2: a key moment in that game. All Blacks talk about

467
00:24:52,667 --> 00:24:57,187
Speaker 2: winning moments, didn't win that moment, lost that moment, and

468
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Speaker 2: it turned out to be a turning point twenty nine

469
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Speaker 2: away from one. I was going to say, the spear line,

470
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Speaker 2: they're filling up pretty quickly. Oh eight hundred and eighty,

471
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Speaker 2: ten to eighty. We'll try and get as many on

472
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Speaker 2: there as we can.

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Speaker 1: Back after this, The Voice of Sport on your Home

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Speaker 1: of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gunner

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Speaker 2: That'd be twenty six to one. His razor from a

477
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Speaker 2: short time ago was this good enough? We owned it

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Speaker 2: as a group.

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Speaker 17: We got to a point where we paid some great

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Speaker 17: rugby and then we let them get away with that execution.

481
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Speaker 17: Wasn't good enough to start the second half? Person we

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Speaker 17: expect of ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the lines. Carlton, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 18: I don't put much stock into the age thing for

485
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Speaker 18: the All Blacks because you look back at the twenty

486
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Speaker 18: fifteen World Cup and half their players were all in

487
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Speaker 18: their thirties as well, so you know, it's a blessing

488
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Speaker 18: to have the you know, experience at that age and

489
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Speaker 18: the team and I just seemed like the players EI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't buy I don't. I mean, that was

491
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Speaker 2: the point put forward earlier about the you know, I

492
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Speaker 2: guess the age of some of our players. I don't

493
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Speaker 2: buy it either, Carlton. It's all all success. All teams

494
00:26:06,827 --> 00:26:10,227
Speaker 2: have that mix of youth and experience, and well, Ba

495
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Speaker 2: barras one of the fittest guy's going around. I think

496
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Speaker 2: he's the oldest on the team. He's one of the

497
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Speaker 2: fittest guys going around, So I don't buy the argument

498
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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 18: I was watching the South African back line and it

500
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Speaker 18: had Tiny Brown's imprint all over it. Like some of

501
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Speaker 18: the things that are pulling off is some stuff we

502
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Speaker 18: used to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, up until the I

503
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Speaker 18: think the interstip from Chips and Kobe, we were in

504
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Speaker 18: that game, and then after that they just went out

505
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Speaker 18: of the sales.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Jason Ryan said that, he said, look,

507
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Speaker 2: if Kolby doesn't make that intercept, there's a two men

508
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Speaker 2: overlap for the All Blacks and all of a sudden,

509
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Speaker 2: it's a different story. But those are effs and butts

510
00:26:48,547 --> 00:26:51,227
Speaker 2: and maybies. It did happen, and I've watched that back

511
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Speaker 2: and Colby does it brilliantly. He fakes to go out,

512
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Speaker 2: he fakes to go one way, Billy Proctor buys that dummy,

513
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Speaker 2: throws the pass and Kolby's got it and he's away,

514
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Speaker 2: he's not catching him. Terrific play, chisling Colby. By the way, John, Hi, yeah, Hi.

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Speaker 19: There, and the listeners, well, I'm going to say, wow,

516
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Speaker 19: we that was the most wonderfulest game I've seen for

517
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Speaker 19: a very long time, and well done to the South

518
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Speaker 19: Africans just absolutely fitness the manner around themselves. The All

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Speaker 19: Blacks looked very tired the fudge. We've got a good

520
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Speaker 19: old saying of bugger. Well, there's a big bugger there

521
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Speaker 19: and they need to get back for what the South

522
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Speaker 19: Africa had. They had a bit of a good old mongrel.

523
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Speaker 19: Can I say that word? I already said it.

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Speaker 2: No, Well, John, I think it's probably at the low

525
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Speaker 2: end of words that some people want to use today.

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Speaker 2: You're right, though, they reacted South Africa to what happened

527
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Speaker 2: last week. Yes, they were deeply disappointed in their lost

528
00:28:04,667 --> 00:28:07,147
Speaker 2: last week, albeit a narrow one. They worked out where

529
00:28:07,147 --> 00:28:11,467
Speaker 2: they'd gone wrong. They righted those wrongs and now it's

530
00:28:11,547 --> 00:28:14,627
Speaker 2: incumbent on the All Blacks coaches and players to do

531
00:28:14,747 --> 00:28:19,067
Speaker 2: the same. The Black Jersey demands a response. It demands

532
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Speaker 2: a response, and in a fortnight from now we're going

533
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Speaker 2: to see what that response is. But they need to

534
00:28:23,787 --> 00:28:27,427
Speaker 2: be spending every waking hour between now and when the

535
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Speaker 2: team gets back into camp, and when the team is

536
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Speaker 2: back in camp working out how to put this right.

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Speaker 19: Well done, well said, Okay, that yeah, thank you for that.

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Speaker 13: That.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, you're right on the mark.

540
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Speaker 14: But I enjoyed it.

541
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Speaker 19: Absolutely. That was right up to the best of my eyes.

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Speaker 2: Oh John, it was a superb performance from South Africa.

543
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Speaker 2: Jeep as if you're a neutral and if you're a

544
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Speaker 2: South African, absolutely brilliant performance. No team lives with South

545
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Speaker 2: Africa playing like that last night, No team. I don't

546
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Speaker 2: get her it is. But as I said, it was

547
00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:07,827
Speaker 2: a manner of the defeat except being beaten by a

548
00:29:07,827 --> 00:29:11,067
Speaker 2: better side. If you've given you all and if you

549
00:29:11,107 --> 00:29:16,507
Speaker 2: know things, there are green shoots of promise. But even me,

550
00:29:17,027 --> 00:29:19,067
Speaker 2: and I'm a pretty positive guy, I tend to look

551
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Speaker 2: at things through a positive lens. Hard to find too

552
00:29:21,867 --> 00:29:23,867
Speaker 2: many from last night. Thanks John Janey.

553
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Speaker 13: Hi, Yeah, Hi, nice.

554
00:29:25,867 --> 00:29:26,427
Speaker 20: To talk to you.

555
00:29:26,907 --> 00:29:28,267
Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you.

556
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Speaker 20: Yeah, thank you. No, I think the coaching staff all

557
00:29:32,587 --> 00:29:36,387
Speaker 20: need look at especially BedHead guy. He hasn't done anything

558
00:29:36,467 --> 00:29:40,427
Speaker 20: for anyone to write home about. Look at last week.

559
00:29:40,547 --> 00:29:44,187
Speaker 20: Look who they had called in, Graham, Henry and Wayne.

560
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Speaker 20: Who was the other coach's name was Wayne?

561
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Speaker 2: It was Wayne Smith who come in Yet I don't

562
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Speaker 2: think I think so. Graham might have come in for

563
00:29:49,987 --> 00:29:51,947
Speaker 2: a bit of a chat. Wayne Smith was there for

564
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Speaker 2: the whole week, and that clearly made a difference. Yeah,

565
00:29:54,667 --> 00:29:57,427
Speaker 2: I wonder I wonder whether he needs to perhaps be

566
00:29:57,507 --> 00:30:01,347
Speaker 2: attached to the side for a little while longer, Jennie.

567
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Speaker 20: Yeah, but Jason and good money, I mean, oh yeah, anyway,

568
00:30:08,147 --> 00:30:11,907
Speaker 20: that's I just think the coaching team. Okay, some of

569
00:30:11,947 --> 00:30:15,387
Speaker 20: the plays could have done better, admittedly, but I think

570
00:30:15,427 --> 00:30:17,667
Speaker 20: the coaching team and that guy that's a head coach,

571
00:30:18,627 --> 00:30:21,867
Speaker 20: he's done nothing. He needs to step down. Someone needs

572
00:30:21,907 --> 00:30:24,507
Speaker 20: to tell him he's got to get his heck together

573
00:30:24,707 --> 00:30:25,267
Speaker 20: or his dealth.

574
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jenny. I'm sure he is having a very stringent,

575
00:30:31,387 --> 00:30:36,067
Speaker 2: strident debrief after that. And look, you got to give

576
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Speaker 2: it to Jason Ryan. He owned it when I chatted

577
00:30:38,067 --> 00:30:40,547
Speaker 2: to him. I thought he did. Anyway, he wasn't shying

578
00:30:40,587 --> 00:30:43,907
Speaker 2: away from anything. They own it. No one will be

579
00:30:43,907 --> 00:30:48,987
Speaker 2: more embarrassed than the All Blacks themselves after this. Look,

580
00:30:48,987 --> 00:30:51,347
Speaker 2: no one's getting sacked. Let let's be clear about this.

581
00:30:51,387 --> 00:30:54,987
Speaker 2: No one's getting sacked. That's not the New Zealand way.

582
00:30:57,147 --> 00:31:01,347
Speaker 2: He's not getting sacked. Scott Robertson has six defeats now

583
00:31:01,907 --> 00:31:04,587
Speaker 2: in fifteen wins. He's at twenty one test matches, six

584
00:31:04,627 --> 00:31:09,227
Speaker 2: defeats in fifteen wins when Ian Foster oversaw his sixth defeat.

585
00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:11,747
Speaker 2: He had sixteen wins in a draw, so that's pretty similar.

586
00:31:11,867 --> 00:31:15,587
Speaker 2: Scott Robertson seventy one percent winning record through twenty one games,

587
00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:18,787
Speaker 2: Ian Foster seventy percent winning record through twenty three games.

588
00:31:18,787 --> 00:31:24,467
Speaker 2: We didn't sack Foszy. Scott Robinson's staying okay, we need

589
00:31:24,507 --> 00:31:26,827
Speaker 2: to be at peace with that. But what we need

590
00:31:26,867 --> 00:31:28,307
Speaker 2: to also do was demand better.

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Speaker 14: James High Yeah, gooday, pineyfist on caller, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show. James, thanks for calling, mate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I was at the game last night and what an

595
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Speaker 14: atmosphere and crowd all black supporter, but I do have

596
00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:46,227
Speaker 14: issues with leadership. I agree with your point you just made.

597
00:31:46,467 --> 00:31:48,787
Speaker 14: It's not about sacking people, it's about having the people

598
00:31:48,787 --> 00:31:52,867
Speaker 14: in the right position. Scott Parrot for me, great player,

599
00:31:53,387 --> 00:31:56,147
Speaker 14: I just don't think he commands the mana you'll call

600
00:31:56,187 --> 00:31:58,347
Speaker 14: it Bruce hit Eary's nail on the head that I

601
00:31:58,387 --> 00:32:01,027
Speaker 14: was thinking of, and that's probably a problem for me.

602
00:32:02,147 --> 00:32:06,547
Speaker 14: The bright light was Eroy Kaylor and great debut, but

603
00:32:07,147 --> 00:32:09,907
Speaker 14: it was so hard to be at that game, so hard.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a few African fans around you?

605
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Speaker 14: No funny enough. I was throunded by all blacks and

606
00:32:16,307 --> 00:32:20,427
Speaker 14: we were just so quiet, and that was that was

607
00:32:20,547 --> 00:32:23,827
Speaker 14: really hard. And I've never left in all that game early,

608
00:32:23,867 --> 00:32:26,027
Speaker 14: but I left before they too. The last two tries

609
00:32:27,267 --> 00:32:29,587
Speaker 14: that I just lost all the shop. I just completely

610
00:32:29,667 --> 00:32:32,347
Speaker 14: lost it. My wife was looking at me, going, why

611
00:32:32,347 --> 00:32:34,987
Speaker 14: are we leaving? I said, I can't watch this any longer.

612
00:32:36,907 --> 00:32:39,107
Speaker 2: But James, it's I can hear it in your voice,

613
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Speaker 2: baite and even the fact you've called up it's great

614
00:32:40,787 --> 00:32:42,587
Speaker 2: to hear from you as a first time caller as well.

615
00:32:42,587 --> 00:32:45,307
Speaker 2: But yeah, the disillusionment if you can call it that,

616
00:32:45,427 --> 00:32:50,467
Speaker 2: or certainly the disappointment in your voice. The Scott Barrett

617
00:32:50,467 --> 00:32:53,027
Speaker 2: one so interesting to me because clearly within that playing

618
00:32:53,067 --> 00:32:56,267
Speaker 2: group he's highly regarded and honest day, one of the

619
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Speaker 2: best locks going around. In fact, I thought last week

620
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Speaker 2: at even Bark he had his best test as captain.

621
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Speaker 2: It's just such a shame that last night. I just

622
00:33:03,707 --> 00:33:06,547
Speaker 2: think you're right you look out there, for you, for

623
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Speaker 2: your leaders, for the men are who have the money,

624
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Speaker 2: as you put it, And yeah, I didn't see it

625
00:33:13,147 --> 00:33:13,987
Speaker 2: last night, iron mate.

626
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Speaker 14: Yeah sorry, Kay, you'll call a pas, call a Bruce.

627
00:33:17,827 --> 00:33:22,427
Speaker 14: He talked about Shelford, he talked about Fitzpatrick. I'll go further, Tanner,

628
00:33:23,027 --> 00:33:27,667
Speaker 14: Richard mccaugh. Those guys demanded excellence, and by god, if

629
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Speaker 14: you didn't deliver, I'm pretty sure they told you. I

630
00:33:31,107 --> 00:33:33,787
Speaker 14: don't think you can let with Scott Barrett. Yes he

631
00:33:33,907 --> 00:33:37,587
Speaker 14: is my All Black Team, All Mat squad, but I

632
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Speaker 14: just don't think he's our captain. And it's just my.

633
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Speaker 2: View, James. It's a it's a relevant view. It's as

634
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Speaker 2: relevant as any of you. Thanks for calling, mate, You

635
00:33:46,067 --> 00:33:47,947
Speaker 2: got the number. Now'll call back anytime. Good to hear

636
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Speaker 2: from you. Seventeen to one Back with more after this.

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Speaker 1: The big issues on and after Fields Call eighty eight

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Speaker 1: weekends forward with Jason Fine and GJ. Gunner Homes New

639
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Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home Bilder News.

640
00:34:02,027 --> 00:34:04,987
Speaker 2: Talk to fourteen to one on text. Owning it as

641
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Speaker 2: a coach is one thing. Having the ability he'd have

642
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Speaker 2: turned it around as another. And that's the key question.

643
00:34:08,827 --> 00:34:12,027
Speaker 2: Rhetoric is great, but nothing without consistent delivery of results.

644
00:34:12,067 --> 00:34:14,947
Speaker 2: And that's a consistency. It just eludes this team at

645
00:34:14,987 --> 00:34:18,547
Speaker 2: the moment, and the response is demanded by the Black jersey.

646
00:34:18,907 --> 00:34:23,867
Speaker 21: But hi, oh, are you there, poney, I'm here, Bart

647
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:25,467
Speaker 21: all right, good good.

648
00:34:25,587 --> 00:34:28,467
Speaker 13: I just want to agree with a couple of the

649
00:34:28,547 --> 00:34:31,987
Speaker 13: previous comments there around raising im questions around the coaching.

650
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Speaker 13: What my key concern is, have a look at how

651
00:34:35,587 --> 00:34:39,067
Speaker 13: well the Australians front it against the South Africans, but

652
00:34:39,467 --> 00:34:42,987
Speaker 13: both in South Africa. And who was this drum coach,

653
00:34:44,227 --> 00:34:46,067
Speaker 13: Mike Tron? Why did we go home?

654
00:34:46,947 --> 00:34:48,427
Speaker 2: Well, I think he was part of He was part

655
00:34:48,427 --> 00:34:51,147
Speaker 2: of Yeah, he was part of Ian Foster's coaching team,

656
00:34:51,227 --> 00:34:53,627
Speaker 2: wasn't he? And when and when Scott Robertson came in,

657
00:34:53,627 --> 00:34:55,267
Speaker 2: he brought his own team with him.

658
00:34:56,267 --> 00:34:58,187
Speaker 13: Yeah, how well was that going?

659
00:34:59,427 --> 00:34:59,507
Speaker 19: Oh?

660
00:34:59,627 --> 00:35:00,147
Speaker 22: So good as it?

661
00:35:00,587 --> 00:35:01,387
Speaker 2: Well not at the moment.

662
00:35:02,867 --> 00:35:06,187
Speaker 13: It took about mental skills me through Gilbert and Opra

663
00:35:06,507 --> 00:35:10,107
Speaker 13: as well. So the two guys, I mean, I think

664
00:35:10,107 --> 00:35:12,147
Speaker 13: Gilbert and Os have been with the ABS for over

665
00:35:12,187 --> 00:35:15,507
Speaker 13: eleven years. I might be wrong, might be longer, but

666
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Speaker 13: I know that Mike Tron had been near double digits

667
00:35:18,667 --> 00:35:21,707
Speaker 13: as well. And here I'm wanted. So suddenly they go

668
00:35:21,787 --> 00:35:24,427
Speaker 13: to Australia. You didn't see the Australian scrum getting pushed

669
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Speaker 13: around in South Africa.

670
00:35:28,427 --> 00:35:30,947
Speaker 2: It's a very good point Bart, It's a very good point. Look,

671
00:35:30,947 --> 00:35:33,667
Speaker 2: I think all the coaches need to have a good

672
00:35:33,667 --> 00:35:38,387
Speaker 2: look at themselves and look at I feel as though

673
00:35:38,387 --> 00:35:41,387
Speaker 2: they know what they want to see from their players.

674
00:35:41,427 --> 00:35:43,307
Speaker 2: But like the aerial game, I know we're moving away

675
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:45,227
Speaker 2: from what you rung to speak about, but the aerial

676
00:35:45,267 --> 00:35:49,027
Speaker 2: game they have known for so long that the aerial

677
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:52,307
Speaker 2: rules have changed. You can't escort or sort of block

678
00:35:52,387 --> 00:35:55,467
Speaker 2: runners anymore, so you just have to be better under

679
00:35:55,507 --> 00:35:58,027
Speaker 2: the high ball. And time and time again, and particularly

680
00:35:58,027 --> 00:36:00,387
Speaker 2: in the last two test matches, they have lost the

681
00:36:00,467 --> 00:36:04,187
Speaker 2: aerial battle, and lost it significantly last night, more so

682
00:36:04,227 --> 00:36:07,747
Speaker 2: than the week before. So where is the where is

683
00:36:07,787 --> 00:36:09,667
Speaker 2: the coaching around the stuff? We Corey Jane on the

684
00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:11,587
Speaker 2: show yesterday. I'm not sure if you heard him, but

685
00:36:11,907 --> 00:36:13,947
Speaker 2: his technical analysis of what you have to do when

686
00:36:13,947 --> 00:36:17,027
Speaker 2: the high ball was spot on, bang on, and that

687
00:36:17,027 --> 00:36:18,187
Speaker 2: that knowledge isn't secret.

688
00:36:19,027 --> 00:36:21,867
Speaker 13: Yeah, but but Piney gave back there. I mean Corey

689
00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:25,507
Speaker 13: James part of the famous bomb squad that had specialists

690
00:36:25,507 --> 00:36:26,667
Speaker 13: coaching from mcbaern.

691
00:36:28,107 --> 00:36:29,467
Speaker 9: Yes, So all I'm.

692
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Speaker 13: Trying to say is under the Scott Robertson's coaching rasion,

693
00:36:33,787 --> 00:36:36,627
Speaker 13: we've thrown out a lot of IP that has gone

694
00:36:36,667 --> 00:36:38,867
Speaker 13: to other parts of other parts of the order, this

695
00:36:38,987 --> 00:36:44,387
Speaker 13: case Australia, and it's done a great job. And Jason

696
00:36:44,467 --> 00:36:47,907
Speaker 13: Ryan was also chateledged under Mike Klan.

697
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was also a lined to. He was also

698
00:36:51,827 --> 00:36:53,467
Speaker 2: a line to Fozzy as well, there wasn't He came

699
00:36:53,507 --> 00:36:57,587
Speaker 2: in after the Irish after the Irish tests in twenty two,

700
00:36:57,947 --> 00:37:00,267
Speaker 2: so he was also part of part of Ian Foster's

701
00:37:00,267 --> 00:37:03,227
Speaker 2: crew and obviously had been heavily aligned with Razor at

702
00:37:03,227 --> 00:37:08,547
Speaker 2: the Crusaders. So yeah, so, and I think again Jason

703
00:37:08,627 --> 00:37:11,027
Speaker 2: Ryan's highly regarded. They probably all are, you know, but

704
00:37:11,747 --> 00:37:13,387
Speaker 2: the results aren't there to see at the moment. But

705
00:37:13,587 --> 00:37:15,387
Speaker 2: so your point's entirely valid.

706
00:37:15,107 --> 00:37:18,427
Speaker 13: Mate, I mean, and the other content I have is

707
00:37:18,467 --> 00:37:21,787
Speaker 13: that we are going backwards and forwards across the bloody field.

708
00:37:22,667 --> 00:37:25,387
Speaker 13: And how could you name me a time that we've

709
00:37:25,387 --> 00:37:28,267
Speaker 13: actually hold held the ball for more than ten phases?

710
00:37:28,987 --> 00:37:30,307
Speaker 2: Well, I think the only time I did last night

711
00:37:30,347 --> 00:37:31,707
Speaker 2: was the only time I did last night was going

712
00:37:31,747 --> 00:37:33,787
Speaker 2: to try I think Leroy Carter. That was at the

713
00:37:33,867 --> 00:37:35,547
Speaker 2: end of a move that went back and forth through

714
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Speaker 2: about fifteen sets of hands, so that that was the

715
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Speaker 2: only one I can remember.

716
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, if you kind of go back to

717
00:37:42,547 --> 00:37:45,027
Speaker 13: previous areas, whether it be Follows, whether it be Hanson,

718
00:37:45,107 --> 00:37:49,387
Speaker 13: whether it be game Henry. You know, there's oftentimes we're

719
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Speaker 13: holding the ball well over twenty sometimes twenty five phases

720
00:37:54,307 --> 00:37:58,067
Speaker 13: and building pressure, and but we're playing this helped to

721
00:37:58,187 --> 00:38:00,587
Speaker 13: skelter pass the ball out White. I mean, I think

722
00:38:00,587 --> 00:38:03,547
Speaker 13: we're actually being quite arrogant, to be perfectly honest. It's

723
00:38:03,627 --> 00:38:07,547
Speaker 13: like we're saying outside backs so much faster than the

724
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Speaker 13: South Africans, and and that that that rush defensive there

725
00:38:11,627 --> 00:38:14,307
Speaker 13: is kept on getting in our in our line, and

726
00:38:14,627 --> 00:38:17,547
Speaker 13: we didn't seem to change our approach. But it wasn't

727
00:38:17,587 --> 00:38:21,747
Speaker 13: like our plan B said, Okay, guys, you know the

728
00:38:21,827 --> 00:38:25,027
Speaker 13: rush defense is certainly rappling us out wide. Let's keep

729
00:38:25,067 --> 00:38:27,387
Speaker 13: it in close that it's trying to suck some some

730
00:38:27,467 --> 00:38:29,787
Speaker 13: of the loose forwards and keeping closer to the ruck.

731
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Speaker 13: Let's see some picking goes. Let's hold it for you know,

732
00:38:33,187 --> 00:38:36,467
Speaker 13: for some phases and try and frustrate them. It was

733
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Speaker 13: just like, let's go to the let's go to a

734
00:38:38,307 --> 00:38:41,387
Speaker 13: breakdown and quickly get that ball out, you know, let's

735
00:38:41,387 --> 00:38:43,347
Speaker 13: get let's go wide. We didn't have any one or

736
00:38:43,387 --> 00:38:46,747
Speaker 13: two off runners coming and off the rucks. We did

737
00:38:46,787 --> 00:38:48,587
Speaker 13: a little bit in the first half, but in the

738
00:38:48,387 --> 00:38:50,987
Speaker 13: in the second half it was just like, let's do

739
00:38:51,147 --> 00:38:53,947
Speaker 13: Hail Mary's and get it out to our new winger m.

740
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Speaker 2: Good points, well made Bart and look there there. Their

741
00:38:57,227 --> 00:39:00,627
Speaker 2: wingers are much better, much faster than ours. Colby and Hooker.

742
00:39:00,627 --> 00:39:02,867
Speaker 2: That ethan hooker man, he's a player chit and Colby

743
00:39:02,907 --> 00:39:04,667
Speaker 2: spent a great winger for a long time. I think

744
00:39:04,867 --> 00:39:06,867
Speaker 2: if there is any suggestion that our wings are faster

745
00:39:06,947 --> 00:39:08,587
Speaker 2: than these, then it was put to bed last night.

746
00:39:08,827 --> 00:39:10,667
Speaker 2: Thanks for your cole mate, Gary, we can squeeze you

747
00:39:10,707 --> 00:39:12,387
Speaker 2: on hello mate.

748
00:39:12,707 --> 00:39:16,107
Speaker 23: Yeah, very frustrating to watch a game like that. And

749
00:39:17,507 --> 00:39:21,227
Speaker 23: my comment is that you don't score tries if you're

750
00:39:21,267 --> 00:39:24,547
Speaker 23: kicking the ball. Why don't we stop the halfbacks from

751
00:39:24,627 --> 00:39:27,227
Speaker 23: kicking the ball and giving it back to them if

752
00:39:27,267 --> 00:39:34,227
Speaker 23: we're fifty percent losing the high ball? And also those

753
00:39:35,307 --> 00:39:39,307
Speaker 23: South African backs our fellows were seeing the whites of

754
00:39:39,347 --> 00:39:43,187
Speaker 23: their eyes before they actually had the ball out wide,

755
00:39:44,227 --> 00:39:49,147
Speaker 23: so why don't they change as they're playing. Bring some

756
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:52,667
Speaker 23: of those exciting wingers back in close to the scrum

757
00:39:52,907 --> 00:39:56,507
Speaker 23: and leave the other fellows wider out and nullify those

758
00:39:56,587 --> 00:39:58,707
Speaker 23: fast South African winners.

759
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that on occasion, Gary, I saw Leroy

760
00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:03,827
Speaker 2: Carter and it's sort of second receiver on occasion, so

761
00:40:03,907 --> 00:40:07,187
Speaker 2: they did give it a crack. But yeah, I just

762
00:40:07,227 --> 00:40:09,667
Speaker 2: think in the second half last night, Mate, it just

763
00:40:10,187 --> 00:40:12,627
Speaker 2: there was there was nothing to be taken from it.

764
00:40:12,947 --> 00:40:14,627
Speaker 2: And the kick. You're right about the kicking, and that's

765
00:40:14,667 --> 00:40:17,667
Speaker 2: the mysterious part to me. If the kicks truly are

766
00:40:17,707 --> 00:40:21,587
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, as Jason Ryan said earlier, then we

767
00:40:21,587 --> 00:40:24,067
Speaker 2: should win fifty percent of them, shouldn't we. That stands

768
00:40:24,067 --> 00:40:27,267
Speaker 2: to reason, doesn't it. That's logical maths. If every box

769
00:40:27,347 --> 00:40:29,027
Speaker 2: kicker is a fifty to fifty, then we should win

770
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Speaker 2: half of them. I don't know the exact stats, but

771
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it wasn't half. Last night felt to

772
00:40:35,627 --> 00:40:38,707
Speaker 2: me as though South Africa won three quarters of those

773
00:40:38,747 --> 00:40:43,187
Speaker 2: aerial battles. There were a couple of times when Damie

774
00:40:43,227 --> 00:40:46,107
Speaker 2: McKenzie went up and showed great courage and won a couple,

775
00:40:46,147 --> 00:40:50,187
Speaker 2: but they lost the aerial battle again last night. And

776
00:40:49,347 --> 00:40:52,267
Speaker 2: the frustrating thing about that is that they knew it

777
00:40:52,347 --> 00:40:56,627
Speaker 2: was coming. It was not a surprise seven to one

778
00:40:56,667 --> 00:40:57,467
Speaker 2: back in a mote.

779
00:40:57,987 --> 00:41:00,307
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

780
00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:04,987
Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Hyne, News

781
00:41:05,067 --> 00:41:05,827
Speaker 1: Talks evy.

782
00:41:06,427 --> 00:41:07,787
Speaker 2: Or to one, going to keep the lines open after

783
00:41:07,787 --> 00:41:10,867
Speaker 2: one o'clock, so we'll pick this conversation up again after

784
00:41:10,907 --> 00:41:12,827
Speaker 2: the news. Couple of points that have been made on text.

785
00:41:13,227 --> 00:41:15,387
Speaker 2: One is that a number of those South African players

786
00:41:15,387 --> 00:41:18,067
Speaker 2: don't play in South Africa. In fact, I saw a

787
00:41:18,107 --> 00:41:20,587
Speaker 2: stant that twenty eight of the forty three points last

788
00:41:20,667 --> 00:41:22,907
Speaker 2: night was scored by players who are based in Japan,

789
00:41:23,987 --> 00:41:27,787
Speaker 2: so that's interesting. And the other one is about the

790
00:41:28,747 --> 00:41:31,027
Speaker 2: Black Ferns, and yes we will shine a light on

791
00:41:31,027 --> 00:41:35,187
Speaker 2: the Black Ferns after two o'clock. We haven't forgotten about them.

792
00:41:35,307 --> 00:41:36,947
Speaker 2: I do want to keep on talking all Blacks. Got

793
00:41:36,947 --> 00:41:38,827
Speaker 2: the Warriors to cover as well, but don't worry, we

794
00:41:38,947 --> 00:41:41,827
Speaker 2: have not forgotten about the Black Ferns and their progress

795
00:41:41,907 --> 00:41:44,427
Speaker 2: through to the semi finals. That their Rugby World Cups

796
00:41:44,467 --> 00:41:47,187
Speaker 2: will cover that off after two o'clock. News next to one.

797
00:41:47,987 --> 00:41:50,907
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

798
00:41:51,227 --> 00:41:54,587
Speaker 1: and after fields, it's all on Wig and Sport with

799
00:41:54,827 --> 00:41:58,667
Speaker 1: Jason Vaine on your home of Sport.

800
00:41:58,867 --> 00:42:02,427
Speaker 2: U York one O seven. Welcome in and welcome in

801
00:42:02,467 --> 00:42:04,547
Speaker 2: on our streaming platform as well. We had some issues

802
00:42:04,627 --> 00:42:07,547
Speaker 2: last hour. Good to have you with us on iHeartRadio

803
00:42:08,347 --> 00:42:10,587
Speaker 2: right around the world. All listening in on z B

804
00:42:10,867 --> 00:42:13,347
Speaker 2: in the traditional scene time. Jason Pine, this is weekend

805
00:42:13,387 --> 00:42:18,347
Speaker 2: Sport until three Warriors and Blackburn's after two. We'll continue

806
00:42:18,387 --> 00:42:22,027
Speaker 2: chatting all Blacks this hour, just before we go back

807
00:42:22,067 --> 00:42:24,867
Speaker 2: to the lines on the field. Last night after the game,

808
00:42:24,947 --> 00:42:28,987
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to catch up with spring Box midfield

809
00:42:29,027 --> 00:42:35,267
Speaker 2: back Damien Villam sit man. He looked ecstatic, Damien, you

810
00:42:35,307 --> 00:42:37,827
Speaker 2: are pumped up? And why not? How good was that?

811
00:42:38,147 --> 00:42:38,387
Speaker 6: Yeah?

812
00:42:38,547 --> 00:42:42,067
Speaker 24: Man, very happy with that result. Going to the team

813
00:42:42,107 --> 00:42:44,907
Speaker 24: and everyone, the coach says for stepping up this week,

814
00:42:44,987 --> 00:42:47,467
Speaker 24: and yeah we knew where we went wrong last beginning

815
00:42:47,507 --> 00:42:49,427
Speaker 24: and parking. I think as you can see, it was

816
00:42:49,427 --> 00:42:51,467
Speaker 24: a very tis the mindset coming into this game and

817
00:42:51,547 --> 00:42:54,467
Speaker 24: how did these boys fucking play today? So for my language,

818
00:42:54,467 --> 00:42:56,787
Speaker 24: but it was a simple outstanding too. Put on our

819
00:42:56,787 --> 00:43:00,707
Speaker 24: performers like this. Away from Home in Wellington is going

820
00:43:00,707 --> 00:43:01,867
Speaker 24: down in the booksman.

821
00:43:01,707 --> 00:43:03,547
Speaker 2: It has gone down to the books. The second half

822
00:43:03,587 --> 00:43:05,787
Speaker 2: in particular, Damien. You know, in the first half, I

823
00:43:05,787 --> 00:43:08,267
Speaker 2: think your domin but the execution not quite there. What

824
00:43:08,347 --> 00:43:10,187
Speaker 2: happened in the second half? What was it at halftime?

825
00:43:10,507 --> 00:43:15,227
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think we knew that we were making progress.

826
00:43:15,307 --> 00:43:16,947
Speaker 3: There are a few hors did and.

827
00:43:16,987 --> 00:43:18,427
Speaker 24: Go to hand, but in the second time we just

828
00:43:18,427 --> 00:43:22,027
Speaker 24: said this is the same, remain calm, keep the composer

829
00:43:22,627 --> 00:43:24,467
Speaker 24: and that first opportunity to be going to have to

830
00:43:24,467 --> 00:43:25,307
Speaker 24: put present.

831
00:43:24,987 --> 00:43:26,547
Speaker 2: On the All blacks and we did that.

832
00:43:26,587 --> 00:43:28,867
Speaker 24: So yeah, it was very clinical from us in the

833
00:43:28,867 --> 00:43:29,347
Speaker 24: second half.

834
00:43:29,347 --> 00:43:31,507
Speaker 2: Man, you've played a lot of rugby, You've had a

835
00:43:31,547 --> 00:43:33,387
Speaker 2: lot of success in rugby. Winn Is this right? And

836
00:43:33,507 --> 00:43:35,107
Speaker 2: not totally just finished? But wait does it stand?

837
00:43:35,147 --> 00:43:35,267
Speaker 1: Man?

838
00:43:35,387 --> 00:43:35,547
Speaker 8: Man?

839
00:43:35,587 --> 00:43:37,587
Speaker 24: This is goes to the rugy War Cup. And yeah,

840
00:43:37,627 --> 00:43:40,747
Speaker 24: I'm just super super happy. This is a fantastic one

841
00:43:40,787 --> 00:43:42,987
Speaker 24: and credit to the team and everyone involved.

842
00:43:43,027 --> 00:43:46,147
Speaker 2: That is Damien Villains straight after the final whistle, or

843
00:43:46,147 --> 00:43:48,147
Speaker 2: about five minutes after the final whistle, I can tell

844
00:43:48,187 --> 00:43:50,627
Speaker 2: you you can't obviously see it through the radio. You

845
00:43:50,667 --> 00:43:53,987
Speaker 2: can hear his voice there, but his eyes were sparkling.

846
00:43:55,267 --> 00:43:57,307
Speaker 2: He was just over the moon with that and to

847
00:43:57,307 --> 00:44:00,227
Speaker 2: hear him compare it to winning a world Cup. That

848
00:44:00,387 --> 00:44:04,027
Speaker 2: just shows how much beating the All Blacks means to

849
00:44:04,227 --> 00:44:09,067
Speaker 2: South Africans and the other Perton point there his first comment,

850
00:44:09,427 --> 00:44:12,147
Speaker 2: we know what we did wrong last week. We fixed

851
00:44:12,187 --> 00:44:15,827
Speaker 2: it and there's the result. That is now the All

852
00:44:15,827 --> 00:44:18,707
Speaker 2: Blacks task. They have to work out what went wrong

853
00:44:18,787 --> 00:44:21,987
Speaker 2: last night and the list is quite long and do

854
00:44:22,067 --> 00:44:24,467
Speaker 2: better in a couple of weeks time. Let's get back

855
00:44:24,507 --> 00:44:27,747
Speaker 2: to the lines. Hello, jealous, Yeah, party.

856
00:44:29,987 --> 00:44:34,507
Speaker 25: I want to talk about the motivation and these teams

857
00:44:34,547 --> 00:44:37,627
Speaker 25: are not thirty three points at part there are pretty

858
00:44:37,627 --> 00:44:41,227
Speaker 25: even at the start of the series. If it said, okay,

859
00:44:41,227 --> 00:44:43,587
Speaker 25: we're going to lose one, we're going to win one.

860
00:44:43,667 --> 00:44:46,987
Speaker 25: Which one we'd just sooner win. It's Eden park right, Yes,

861
00:44:48,267 --> 00:44:51,827
Speaker 25: so we've done that. We've kept even parked that record. Intact,

862
00:44:53,027 --> 00:44:55,587
Speaker 25: we lost Baddy last night, but that can happen in

863
00:44:55,587 --> 00:44:55,907
Speaker 25: the game.

864
00:44:55,987 --> 00:44:57,227
Speaker 11: That that cold we thing.

865
00:44:57,307 --> 00:45:00,747
Speaker 25: That's a fourteen point try and it's imagine he knocks

866
00:45:00,787 --> 00:45:03,947
Speaker 25: it on then he gets the yellow card or they

867
00:45:03,987 --> 00:45:06,867
Speaker 25: even get a plody try against them, So it's a

868
00:45:06,947 --> 00:45:09,947
Speaker 25: high risk thing came off for him and that probably

869
00:45:10,067 --> 00:45:14,267
Speaker 25: changed the flow. But I think it's the top till

870
00:45:14,307 --> 00:45:17,827
Speaker 25: it is. It's the motivation. At this level, the top

871
00:45:17,867 --> 00:45:19,827
Speaker 25: four teams in the world can all beat each other

872
00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:22,707
Speaker 25: on the day. It depends on the motivation. And the

873
00:45:22,747 --> 00:45:24,947
Speaker 25: Box wanted it more last night than we did.

874
00:45:25,427 --> 00:45:27,227
Speaker 2: How could an all black not want to beat the

875
00:45:27,267 --> 00:45:30,667
Speaker 2: spring Box though, Dallas, Yeah, but you can't.

876
00:45:30,907 --> 00:45:35,107
Speaker 25: It's like a subliminal thing, you know. Eden Park, we

877
00:45:35,627 --> 00:45:38,107
Speaker 25: just had to win. There was no two ways about it,

878
00:45:39,027 --> 00:45:41,627
Speaker 25: and so they just put that extra in, you know,

879
00:45:41,747 --> 00:45:45,107
Speaker 25: and it's just human. The next week, the pressure is

880
00:45:45,147 --> 00:45:48,547
Speaker 25: off of it with one Eden Park, and you know,

881
00:45:48,747 --> 00:45:52,547
Speaker 25: it's just the Box were up for it. Erasmus, you

882
00:45:52,587 --> 00:45:54,827
Speaker 25: saw him in the press comments. You know, he never

883
00:45:54,987 --> 00:45:58,827
Speaker 25: gloated once and he mentioned fifty seven now at North Harbor,

884
00:45:58,907 --> 00:46:01,187
Speaker 25: he mentioned that two or three times his feet. He's

885
00:46:01,227 --> 00:46:05,507
Speaker 25: so grounded, that guy. You know, he's so realistic and

886
00:46:05,547 --> 00:46:08,507
Speaker 25: that's what makes him such a good person. As some

887
00:46:08,667 --> 00:46:12,387
Speaker 25: other callers have said, they're they've got so much depth

888
00:46:12,627 --> 00:46:15,787
Speaker 25: they can put that. He'll be thinking, now, why didn't

889
00:46:15,827 --> 00:46:17,267
Speaker 25: I play that team at eden Park?

890
00:46:18,147 --> 00:46:20,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, he may well, and tell us you make such

891
00:46:20,947 --> 00:46:23,347
Speaker 2: a good point. I reckon, look at the start of

892
00:46:23,627 --> 00:46:26,027
Speaker 2: the year or even even you know, two weeks ago

893
00:46:26,147 --> 00:46:28,987
Speaker 2: or let's say, before Eden Park, I think if you

894
00:46:29,027 --> 00:46:30,947
Speaker 2: and I had been having a conversation, we probably would

895
00:46:30,947 --> 00:46:33,387
Speaker 2: have agreed that that a likely outcome was a test

896
00:46:33,427 --> 00:46:36,627
Speaker 2: each you know, that that wasn't beyond the realms of possibility,

897
00:46:36,787 --> 00:46:39,707
Speaker 2: and that's what's happened here. I think what's concerning us

898
00:46:40,267 --> 00:46:43,867
Speaker 2: is the manner of the defeat yesterday, the manner of

899
00:46:43,907 --> 00:46:46,027
Speaker 2: the South African defeat last week. They were in that

900
00:46:46,187 --> 00:46:48,227
Speaker 2: right till the end and kept going and kept going

901
00:46:48,227 --> 00:46:50,907
Speaker 2: and kept going. That didn't happen last night.

902
00:46:52,227 --> 00:46:54,467
Speaker 12: But if you're losing, rugby's one up front. You know,

903
00:46:54,507 --> 00:46:57,027
Speaker 12: we know that if you lose the lineout, even on

904
00:46:57,067 --> 00:47:00,787
Speaker 12: your own throne, or if you're losing scrums, scrums then

905
00:47:00,827 --> 00:47:03,027
Speaker 12: become a huge weapon for the box. You know, there's

906
00:47:03,107 --> 00:47:06,067
Speaker 12: like a three point guarantee every scrum you know from

907
00:47:06,827 --> 00:47:10,027
Speaker 12: so rugby is still one upfront and the back's just

908
00:47:10,067 --> 00:47:11,027
Speaker 12: decide by how much.

909
00:47:11,587 --> 00:47:11,867
Speaker 8: You know.

910
00:47:11,987 --> 00:47:14,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, tell us, great thoughts, mate, well made,

911
00:47:14,667 --> 00:47:17,427
Speaker 2: thank you, Yeah, scrum and lineout Jason. Ryan's got a

912
00:47:17,467 --> 00:47:18,907
Speaker 2: lot of work to do there. Bryan Evans of course

913
00:47:18,987 --> 00:47:21,547
Speaker 2: is in there as well, helping out with the with

914
00:47:21,587 --> 00:47:25,467
Speaker 2: the lineout. You know, even though they didn't get pushed

915
00:47:25,507 --> 00:47:28,187
Speaker 2: off their ball, and as Spectac they're fashioners. Last week

916
00:47:28,227 --> 00:47:30,227
Speaker 2: at Eden Park, the All Blacks always looked like were

917
00:47:30,267 --> 00:47:33,147
Speaker 2: struggling at scrum time last night on their own feet.

918
00:47:34,067 --> 00:47:35,427
Speaker 2: You know. It just seemed like they wanted to get

919
00:47:35,427 --> 00:47:36,867
Speaker 2: it out of the back wallace and Tet had to

920
00:47:36,867 --> 00:47:39,227
Speaker 2: get rid of it quickly a couple of times, and

921
00:47:39,427 --> 00:47:41,667
Speaker 2: it almost felt as though the All Blacks were just

922
00:47:41,707 --> 00:47:43,307
Speaker 2: sort of on the edge of of having a scrumb

923
00:47:43,307 --> 00:47:46,027
Speaker 2: penalty against them, and they did on what three occasions,

924
00:47:46,427 --> 00:47:48,187
Speaker 2: And then the lineout when I mean, I felt for

925
00:47:48,227 --> 00:47:51,347
Speaker 2: Brody McCallister, you know, and it shows again the gap

926
00:47:51,387 --> 00:47:54,307
Speaker 2: between Cody Taylor and the other hookers. But I'm not

927
00:47:54,347 --> 00:47:58,067
Speaker 2: sure Brody McAllister was helped by his lineout callers last night,

928
00:47:58,107 --> 00:48:00,827
Speaker 2: and presumably it was Scott Barrett. I presume he calls

929
00:48:00,867 --> 00:48:03,067
Speaker 2: the lineouts, and even if he doesn't, he's the captain.

930
00:48:03,907 --> 00:48:05,427
Speaker 2: Going back to that one, and I hate to labor

931
00:48:05,467 --> 00:48:06,947
Speaker 2: the point, but it was a turn point in the

932
00:48:06,947 --> 00:48:10,707
Speaker 2: game that lineout at sixty minutes. He called that to yourself.

933
00:48:10,827 --> 00:48:12,147
Speaker 2: You got to number two on the line out and

934
00:48:12,147 --> 00:48:14,267
Speaker 2: call it to yourself. Hey, Glenn.

935
00:48:15,267 --> 00:48:16,867
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd have to agree with that point of that

936
00:48:16,987 --> 00:48:20,707
Speaker 13: line out. Another couple of moments in the game used

937
00:48:20,747 --> 00:48:24,307
Speaker 13: the rhyllains to try. Also, Will Jordan goes through, he's

938
00:48:24,347 --> 00:48:26,387
Speaker 13: got two many outside him, and he does a skip

939
00:48:26,427 --> 00:48:29,547
Speaker 13: pass and Leroy Carter doesn't catch it. Yeah, you know

940
00:48:29,827 --> 00:48:33,147
Speaker 13: that goes to the six. The six is a ball player.

941
00:48:33,147 --> 00:48:35,147
Speaker 13: He puts them and he put him away, and then

942
00:48:35,147 --> 00:48:38,547
Speaker 13: we're back at seventeen. All yeah, so like and then

943
00:48:38,627 --> 00:48:40,347
Speaker 13: Boden Beard on the right hand side, he's got two

944
00:48:40,347 --> 00:48:42,627
Speaker 13: men outside and he takes the tackle. You know that

945
00:48:42,627 --> 00:48:44,747
Speaker 13: there was a couple of moments which were very un

946
00:48:44,867 --> 00:48:48,347
Speaker 13: all black light, very unclinical, you know, just we managed

947
00:48:48,347 --> 00:48:50,547
Speaker 13: to absolutely muffet.

948
00:48:51,667 --> 00:48:53,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he what about and I know it didn't

949
00:48:53,587 --> 00:48:55,987
Speaker 2: matter by the stage, Glenn, but what about Will Jordan

950
00:48:56,027 --> 00:48:58,467
Speaker 2: when he went to force the ball and he was short?

951
00:48:58,707 --> 00:49:01,907
Speaker 2: When does Will Jordan ever do that? Ever? Ever?

952
00:49:01,987 --> 00:49:02,387
Speaker 8: Exactly?

953
00:49:02,507 --> 00:49:06,107
Speaker 13: And I think, you know, so, you know, I think

954
00:49:06,107 --> 00:49:08,347
Speaker 13: you can probably play another teen games and and those

955
00:49:08,507 --> 00:49:12,747
Speaker 13: those four incidences wouldn't go that way, right, so you know,

956
00:49:12,747 --> 00:49:14,707
Speaker 13: we don't have to panic. But what what what does

957
00:49:14,787 --> 00:49:17,947
Speaker 13: really worry me is we're still doing a three Fords

958
00:49:17,987 --> 00:49:21,507
Speaker 13: green passing it behind. We're never hitting that three fords

959
00:49:21,547 --> 00:49:24,147
Speaker 13: green and so so they're not attracting defenders. That's what

960
00:49:24,147 --> 00:49:26,827
Speaker 13: they're there for. They're there to attract defenders. And so

961
00:49:27,747 --> 00:49:30,227
Speaker 13: I think, I mean, and I'm just an arm chair

962
00:49:30,267 --> 00:49:32,947
Speaker 13: footy player, footy watcher, you know, I'm not. I'm not

963
00:49:32,987 --> 00:49:34,667
Speaker 13: a pro coach. So those guys will be able to

964
00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:38,067
Speaker 13: see it, and they just I don't really understand what

965
00:49:38,067 --> 00:49:39,827
Speaker 13: they're doing is almost what they're going through, the emotions

966
00:49:39,867 --> 00:49:42,507
Speaker 13: with how they're setting up that at three three, one

967
00:49:42,667 --> 00:49:45,627
Speaker 13: out the back dead and so yeah, they just, yeah,

968
00:49:45,827 --> 00:49:48,467
Speaker 13: there has to be another way to beat the blitz

969
00:49:48,507 --> 00:49:50,907
Speaker 13: defense rather than just trying to go around with all

970
00:49:50,907 --> 00:49:52,467
Speaker 13: the time they have to go over it or through it,

971
00:49:52,587 --> 00:49:55,147
Speaker 13: or you know, you've got guys looks for tit. You've

972
00:49:55,187 --> 00:49:58,507
Speaker 13: got guys like Ardy Savv. You put one of them

973
00:49:58,547 --> 00:50:00,427
Speaker 13: on a funny angle coming back in a weak shold.

974
00:50:00,547 --> 00:50:02,667
Speaker 13: I go through every single time, but we don't seem

975
00:50:02,667 --> 00:50:08,907
Speaker 13: to be able to construct that. We have no picking goes, yes, scrum.

976
00:50:09,107 --> 00:50:11,027
Speaker 13: We're going to win about forty seven of the scrums

977
00:50:11,027 --> 00:50:12,627
Speaker 13: and not win them well because they are a better

978
00:50:12,627 --> 00:50:16,347
Speaker 13: scrummaging tend enough. That's fine, that's fine. There's a whole

979
00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:17,867
Speaker 13: lot of other stuff that we did in the end

980
00:50:17,867 --> 00:50:20,027
Speaker 13: and we're not playing the restaurants and that's really annoying.

981
00:50:20,187 --> 00:50:22,627
Speaker 13: And it was very disheartening. And as you see it

982
00:50:22,667 --> 00:50:25,427
Speaker 13: in the first hour, I think that for the first

983
00:50:25,427 --> 00:50:28,267
Speaker 13: time in a very very very long time, probably since

984
00:50:28,947 --> 00:50:31,787
Speaker 13: sircurtain Randall, that I saw your breaks give up and

985
00:50:32,107 --> 00:50:33,387
Speaker 13: I'm very unhappy about that.

986
00:50:34,467 --> 00:50:38,027
Speaker 2: Good on you, Glenn. Thanks mate. I'm nodding along and

987
00:50:38,067 --> 00:50:40,267
Speaker 2: that was the most worrying part for me. We can

988
00:50:40,307 --> 00:50:42,787
Speaker 2: all accept being beaten by a better team. We're not

989
00:50:43,027 --> 00:50:46,747
Speaker 2: arrogant enough to suggest that we should win every game.

990
00:50:46,947 --> 00:50:48,787
Speaker 2: We know that's not going to be the case. And

991
00:50:48,787 --> 00:50:50,707
Speaker 2: as I said in the first hour, South Africa would

992
00:50:50,707 --> 00:50:53,387
Speaker 2: have beaten anybody last night. I don't care who it was.

993
00:50:53,547 --> 00:50:58,987
Speaker 2: That second half performance was utter blitzkreek. It was unstoppable,

994
00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:04,867
Speaker 2: but it was the manner of the defeat, the capitulation,

995
00:51:06,067 --> 00:51:13,107
Speaker 2: the the seeming lack of effort at the end. Even Mills,

996
00:51:13,227 --> 00:51:16,267
Speaker 2: Mullyana and Karen Reid, these are one hundred test all

997
00:51:16,267 --> 00:51:20,467
Speaker 2: Blacks said afterwards on the television coverage they thought it

998
00:51:20,587 --> 00:51:23,347
Speaker 2: looked like players were given up. As I was, as

999
00:51:23,347 --> 00:51:25,587
Speaker 2: I was leaving last night, I saw Mills, I saw

1000
00:51:25,707 --> 00:51:28,107
Speaker 2: Justin Marshall, and it's just a it's just a puffing

1001
00:51:28,147 --> 00:51:31,747
Speaker 2: out of the cheeks, and are like, what happened? What

1002
00:51:31,987 --> 00:51:34,227
Speaker 2: on earth happened? Hey, Peter.

1003
00:51:35,867 --> 00:51:41,427
Speaker 26: Piny, great show and a luck. What happened is that

1004
00:51:41,667 --> 00:51:45,347
Speaker 26: simply the the spring Box gave us a lesson and

1005
00:51:45,387 --> 00:51:52,667
Speaker 26: how to play kick. They showed, yeah, they showed us

1006
00:51:52,667 --> 00:51:55,747
Speaker 26: how to scrummage, They showed us how to win lineouts.

1007
00:51:56,107 --> 00:51:59,627
Speaker 26: They showed us how to strategically and regain the ball.

1008
00:52:00,067 --> 00:52:03,547
Speaker 26: They showed us how to catch under the high ball.

1009
00:52:05,107 --> 00:52:07,507
Speaker 26: And along with the lesson, and they gave us a spankings.

1010
00:52:08,667 --> 00:52:11,947
Speaker 26: And at the end it looks as though the All

1011
00:52:11,987 --> 00:52:14,147
Speaker 26: Blacks just sat back and said, hey, this is great

1012
00:52:14,147 --> 00:52:15,067
Speaker 26: to watch guys.

1013
00:52:15,427 --> 00:52:16,067
Speaker 11: They let them go.

1014
00:52:17,867 --> 00:52:19,587
Speaker 2: I'm sure that wasn't the case. Better as you know,

1015
00:52:19,627 --> 00:52:23,107
Speaker 2: but no, but you're right, and they know they honestly. Yeah, Look,

1016
00:52:23,107 --> 00:52:25,147
Speaker 2: if you're a neutral, if you're a neutral, I mean,

1017
00:52:25,187 --> 00:52:27,027
Speaker 2: if you're a South African van, you're over the moon today,

1018
00:52:27,027 --> 00:52:29,787
Speaker 2: you're probably still having a couple of celebratory drinks. But

1019
00:52:29,827 --> 00:52:31,987
Speaker 2: if you're a neutral, and you watch that and you think,

1020
00:52:32,027 --> 00:52:35,187
Speaker 2: my goodness, that's how rugby can be played. Their second

1021
00:52:35,267 --> 00:52:37,067
Speaker 2: forty minutes was just otherworldly.

1022
00:52:38,147 --> 00:52:40,227
Speaker 26: Yeah. What concerns me is that after eating Park and

1023
00:52:40,267 --> 00:52:42,027
Speaker 26: I was at the game, you know, they got they

1024
00:52:42,067 --> 00:52:45,387
Speaker 26: got walked over in the scrubs and the coaches said that,

1025
00:52:45,427 --> 00:52:47,547
Speaker 26: you know, well, you know, we'll tidy it up during

1026
00:52:47,547 --> 00:52:50,147
Speaker 26: the week, we'll get the scrums. And it was only

1027
00:52:50,307 --> 00:52:53,107
Speaker 26: marginely better. You know, we still got done over in

1028
00:52:53,187 --> 00:52:53,827
Speaker 26: the scrummaging.

1029
00:52:54,867 --> 00:52:57,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an interesting comment from Jason Ryan. Sorry,

1030
00:52:57,467 --> 00:52:59,387
Speaker 2: but that was an interesting comment from Jason Ryan when

1031
00:52:59,427 --> 00:53:01,107
Speaker 2: he said when they were pushing off the ball, he

1032
00:53:01,147 --> 00:53:02,467
Speaker 2: was asked about that and he said, well, that won't

1033
00:53:02,467 --> 00:53:05,587
Speaker 2: happen again, And it didn't to that extent, but you're right,

1034
00:53:05,627 --> 00:53:07,787
Speaker 2: we were still they were still better than us at

1035
00:53:07,827 --> 00:53:08,667
Speaker 2: scrum time yesterday.

1036
00:53:09,427 --> 00:53:09,627
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1037
00:53:09,627 --> 00:53:11,507
Speaker 26: And Brady McAllister in the lineups, I mean, what are

1038
00:53:11,507 --> 00:53:14,987
Speaker 26: they doing. I mean he's there coming on, sorry that

1039
00:53:15,107 --> 00:53:17,227
Speaker 26: he's trained, and the calls and so on. I knew

1040
00:53:17,227 --> 00:53:21,747
Speaker 26: that was amateurs, that those lineouts that they missed. I

1041
00:53:21,827 --> 00:53:24,427
Speaker 26: just wonder what's happening in the coaching. I'm not saying

1042
00:53:24,427 --> 00:53:26,947
Speaker 26: to get rid of the coaching there any But what's

1043
00:53:26,947 --> 00:53:32,107
Speaker 26: happening as far as the coaching, I don't know. There's

1044
00:53:32,107 --> 00:53:33,307
Speaker 26: something lacking there, Someway.

1045
00:53:33,747 --> 00:53:35,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a massive test for than Peter. You're

1046
00:53:35,867 --> 00:53:37,067
Speaker 2: so right. So I've got to move and I've got

1047
00:53:37,067 --> 00:53:39,027
Speaker 2: a few other calls to get to. But this is

1048
00:53:39,067 --> 00:53:45,467
Speaker 2: a massive moment in this coaching team's tenure. Massive. The

1049
00:53:45,547 --> 00:53:49,947
Speaker 2: response that they come up with will be instructive. They,

1050
00:53:50,067 --> 00:53:53,187
Speaker 2: as I said before, they have to now spend every

1051
00:53:53,227 --> 00:53:57,267
Speaker 2: waking hour working out what went wrong last night and

1052
00:53:57,307 --> 00:54:00,907
Speaker 2: fixing it. And if we think that Australia aren't going

1053
00:54:00,987 --> 00:54:04,267
Speaker 2: to present as stern a challenge as South Africa, well

1054
00:54:04,587 --> 00:54:06,507
Speaker 2: we may be right in some regards. They don't have

1055
00:54:06,547 --> 00:54:09,987
Speaker 2: the player power or the depth that South Africa have.

1056
00:54:10,147 --> 00:54:13,187
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you right now, the Wallabies want to

1057
00:54:13,227 --> 00:54:16,867
Speaker 2: watched that game last night and they will sniff blood.

1058
00:54:17,707 --> 00:54:20,427
Speaker 2: They will sniff an opportunity to break the eden Park

1059
00:54:20,507 --> 00:54:26,107
Speaker 2: curse or eden Park fortress, and they will absolutely sniff

1060
00:54:26,107 --> 00:54:28,267
Speaker 2: an opportunity to win that bleed us Low Cup. Thanks

1061
00:54:28,307 --> 00:54:29,707
Speaker 2: for calling, Patter and Joy chatting to you.

1062
00:54:29,707 --> 00:54:33,667
Speaker 13: Hello, Steve, Hey, Jason, how are you going good?

1063
00:54:33,667 --> 00:54:33,947
Speaker 2: Steve?

1064
00:54:35,067 --> 00:54:35,347
Speaker 6: Good?

1065
00:54:35,947 --> 00:54:36,707
Speaker 13: Yeah, Look at just.

1066
00:54:36,827 --> 00:54:40,667
Speaker 27: An interesting observation. I think you look at particularly both

1067
00:54:40,707 --> 00:54:43,387
Speaker 27: the Orbits and the Bucks, all of their winnings in

1068
00:54:43,507 --> 00:54:47,387
Speaker 27: this championship have come out of desperation. So they lose

1069
00:54:47,427 --> 00:54:52,707
Speaker 27: a game, become desperate, win the next on a high

1070
00:54:53,747 --> 00:54:55,907
Speaker 27: and go and then lose the following. It feels like

1071
00:54:55,987 --> 00:55:01,427
Speaker 27: there's a mental conditioning issue. Sort of question that, And

1072
00:55:02,587 --> 00:55:04,747
Speaker 27: as a box supporter, I guess that the bit the

1073
00:55:04,827 --> 00:55:07,707
Speaker 27: Mats be nervous now is I watched that Argentina game

1074
00:55:07,907 --> 00:55:11,467
Speaker 27: and man, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be resting

1075
00:55:11,507 --> 00:55:13,427
Speaker 27: my laurels of I and Springboks. I think that igent

1076
00:55:13,467 --> 00:55:14,387
Speaker 27: Tina team are coming.

1077
00:55:15,667 --> 00:55:19,787
Speaker 2: Oh Steve, come on mate, I'm not buying that, Steve.

1078
00:55:19,867 --> 00:55:23,987
Speaker 2: I'm not buying that. You'll like some magnificent mate, They're magnificent.

1079
00:55:25,227 --> 00:55:28,187
Speaker 27: No, look, I've got to say very I absolutely spoke

1080
00:55:28,427 --> 00:55:31,187
Speaker 27: it with the team last night. The one thing that

1081
00:55:31,267 --> 00:55:33,587
Speaker 27: really pleased me is that, you know, we've been struggling

1082
00:55:33,667 --> 00:55:36,667
Speaker 27: to find this balance between the ten man rugby and

1083
00:55:36,747 --> 00:55:39,947
Speaker 27: the running game, and felt like they got the mixed

1084
00:55:40,267 --> 00:55:45,587
Speaker 27: spot on last night. That combined with desperation. You know,

1085
00:55:45,667 --> 00:55:49,227
Speaker 27: they were going home to so Africa turned all down

1086
00:55:49,467 --> 00:55:53,187
Speaker 27: in New Zealand having come close in the first that

1087
00:55:53,347 --> 00:55:55,267
Speaker 27: that wouldn't have been a good welcome, so they was

1088
00:55:55,427 --> 00:55:58,587
Speaker 27: very desperate last night. But yeah, All Blacks, for me,

1089
00:55:58,707 --> 00:56:01,707
Speaker 27: last night just felt like there was a just they

1090
00:56:01,827 --> 00:56:04,467
Speaker 27: just the attitude just wasn't there, you know, not they

1091
00:56:04,467 --> 00:56:06,507
Speaker 27: weren't contesting, and I just wonder, how can you go

1092
00:56:06,587 --> 00:56:09,987
Speaker 27: from one week to the next playing so well and

1093
00:56:10,027 --> 00:56:12,907
Speaker 27: then just not delivering it. It just feels like it

1094
00:56:13,067 --> 00:56:16,547
Speaker 27: is the preparation or right from the mental perspective, who knows, well.

1095
00:56:16,587 --> 00:56:18,507
Speaker 2: I wonder Steve, whether it was the fact that there

1096
00:56:18,587 --> 00:56:20,827
Speaker 2: was so much on last week, right, there was so

1097
00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:24,627
Speaker 2: much on it, the eden Park Fortress, Artie Savier's one

1098
00:56:24,747 --> 00:56:28,827
Speaker 2: hundredth Test match, the fact that, you know, it just

1099
00:56:28,907 --> 00:56:31,227
Speaker 2: felt like there was a higher power at work last

1100
00:56:31,307 --> 00:56:34,027
Speaker 2: week and the All Blacks embraced that and won the game.

1101
00:56:34,067 --> 00:56:35,827
Speaker 2: And I just I've had it suggested to me that

1102
00:56:35,907 --> 00:56:37,987
Speaker 2: they that they didn't get up as much for last

1103
00:56:38,067 --> 00:56:42,107
Speaker 2: night for whatever reason, emotionally, physically, all that stuff. But

1104
00:56:42,227 --> 00:56:44,027
Speaker 2: it just it just felt like last week there was

1105
00:56:44,227 --> 00:56:47,787
Speaker 2: so much build up. But Artie Savier said afterwards, we

1106
00:56:47,827 --> 00:56:51,707
Speaker 2: shouldn't need Eden Park to get up like that. And

1107
00:56:52,227 --> 00:56:55,707
Speaker 2: you know, I was just so impressed by by South

1108
00:56:55,747 --> 00:56:59,787
Speaker 2: Africa's reaction to what happened at eden Park because they

1109
00:56:59,827 --> 00:57:02,187
Speaker 2: could easily have sort of you know, you know, Resci

1110
00:57:02,307 --> 00:57:04,027
Speaker 2: made some changes. They could easy have gone, man, we

1111
00:57:04,107 --> 00:57:06,867
Speaker 2: missed our chance again to win an Eden Park. But

1112
00:57:06,987 --> 00:57:09,507
Speaker 2: instead they put on an absolute master class last night.

1113
00:57:10,987 --> 00:57:13,267
Speaker 27: Yeah, and I totally agree. I think I think what

1114
00:57:13,667 --> 00:57:15,827
Speaker 27: he's taken out of last night's game, Russie is that

1115
00:57:17,507 --> 00:57:20,347
Speaker 27: there's a backline there that can that can move the

1116
00:57:20,427 --> 00:57:24,787
Speaker 27: bad around. You know, Sasha before he went off with

1117
00:57:24,867 --> 00:57:28,467
Speaker 27: looking very solid at ten, wanting to play, and you

1118
00:57:28,547 --> 00:57:30,987
Speaker 27: can see the difference that Tony Brown's made to this

1119
00:57:31,427 --> 00:57:34,747
Speaker 27: attacking strategy that they've sort of been trying to find.

1120
00:57:35,067 --> 00:57:38,667
Speaker 27: And last night I feel like I just clicked. But yeah,

1121
00:57:38,947 --> 00:57:41,427
Speaker 27: I watched that Argentino game and I'll tell you what,

1122
00:57:42,347 --> 00:57:44,667
Speaker 27: there's not much no Steve, no, Steve.

1123
00:57:44,587 --> 00:57:46,627
Speaker 2: No, I'm not having it, mate, I'm not having it.

1124
00:57:47,307 --> 00:57:49,107
Speaker 2: I'm not having it. I know what you're trying to do.

1125
00:57:49,387 --> 00:57:51,067
Speaker 2: Now get on your mate. It's great to get you.

1126
00:57:51,187 --> 00:57:53,667
Speaker 2: And congratulations, I mean jeecause I was so pleased with

1127
00:57:53,667 --> 00:57:55,627
Speaker 2: the South African fans last night because they turned up

1128
00:57:55,627 --> 00:57:57,707
Speaker 2: in such big numbers as they did at Eating Park

1129
00:57:58,267 --> 00:58:00,507
Speaker 2: and they did last night, And they're just like us.

1130
00:58:00,867 --> 00:58:03,627
Speaker 2: They love their rugby team. They love their rugby team,

1131
00:58:04,587 --> 00:58:07,987
Speaker 2: you know, and none of us is a blinked enough

1132
00:58:08,067 --> 00:58:10,987
Speaker 2: to not be able to, you know, appreciate their passion

1133
00:58:11,067 --> 00:58:12,867
Speaker 2: for the game and be happy for them, even if

1134
00:58:12,907 --> 00:58:15,627
Speaker 2: it's begrudgingly because we want our team to win. Last

1135
00:58:15,627 --> 00:58:17,507
Speaker 2: pleased for them. Good on your Steve. Good to Jetty mate.

1136
00:58:17,507 --> 00:58:19,227
Speaker 2: I think I think you'll be okay against the Permise,

1137
00:58:19,267 --> 00:58:21,467
Speaker 2: but I could be wrong. The Rugby Championship has been very,

1138
00:58:21,587 --> 00:58:24,147
Speaker 2: very funny this year, Tristan. Thanks for holding hello.

1139
00:58:25,187 --> 00:58:30,707
Speaker 28: Here we got I'm fine good. Three simple things going

1140
00:58:30,787 --> 00:58:34,307
Speaker 28: wrong with the Albacks all particularly last night out coached,

1141
00:58:35,267 --> 00:58:39,507
Speaker 28: no scrum in the attitude. It's the three things going

1142
00:58:39,587 --> 00:58:40,347
Speaker 28: wrong with this team.

1143
00:58:40,907 --> 00:58:44,267
Speaker 2: That's three big things we shall we focus our attention

1144
00:58:44,347 --> 00:58:46,627
Speaker 2: the attitude. One interests me the most, Tristan, because that

1145
00:58:46,707 --> 00:58:48,747
Speaker 2: feels like it should be base level for the All Blacks.

1146
00:58:49,427 --> 00:58:49,627
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1147
00:58:50,027 --> 00:58:52,827
Speaker 28: The reason why I brought up attitude was, well, you

1148
00:58:52,947 --> 00:58:56,027
Speaker 28: probably heard Mills and Kanary talk about at the end,

1149
00:58:56,067 --> 00:58:59,747
Speaker 28: and that's something I noticed too Prior to that interview.

1150
00:59:00,307 --> 00:59:01,427
Speaker 13: So when it got to.

1151
00:59:01,467 --> 00:59:04,227
Speaker 28: About twenty nine to ten is when they look like

1152
00:59:04,347 --> 00:59:07,107
Speaker 28: they gave up, which is very uncarre heuristical and all

1153
00:59:07,147 --> 00:59:09,027
Speaker 28: back team just to throw on the towel. Just the

1154
00:59:09,067 --> 00:59:14,227
Speaker 28: way the try is leaked. They're dropping off tackles, particularly

1155
00:59:14,307 --> 00:59:16,587
Speaker 28: that last one. In an example where that where they

1156
00:59:16,627 --> 00:59:18,707
Speaker 28: obviously scored the last try and bot bar it he

1157
00:59:18,827 --> 00:59:21,467
Speaker 28: just sort of just went in to make a tackle

1158
00:59:21,547 --> 00:59:23,787
Speaker 28: but just didn't commit and just got bumped off. With

1159
00:59:23,907 --> 00:59:26,987
Speaker 28: these and and the other thing with the attitude too

1160
00:59:27,107 --> 00:59:30,627
Speaker 28: is it seems like they need a response to get

1161
00:59:30,667 --> 00:59:33,027
Speaker 28: the best out of them. Like an example, they played

1162
00:59:33,107 --> 00:59:36,467
Speaker 28: they won the first game in Argentina, and then they

1163
00:59:36,547 --> 00:59:40,267
Speaker 28: played their second game they got done and then of

1164
00:59:40,347 --> 00:59:42,587
Speaker 28: course they had all that history on the line. Last

1165
00:59:42,587 --> 00:59:45,587
Speaker 28: week at Eden Park, it just been dating. Everyone was

1166
00:59:45,667 --> 00:59:47,987
Speaker 28: right in them off and rubbishing them with that performance

1167
00:59:48,027 --> 00:59:51,867
Speaker 28: in Argentina, bounced back, got to win last week, and

1168
00:59:51,947 --> 00:59:54,627
Speaker 28: then this week first half they were looking to right

1169
00:59:55,227 --> 00:59:57,147
Speaker 28: and then as soon as this thing started to turn

1170
00:59:58,907 --> 01:00:02,027
Speaker 28: obviously the Springot's got sort of four Nain points clear,

1171
01:00:03,227 --> 01:00:05,707
Speaker 28: it just started to unravel. There seems to be an

1172
01:00:05,707 --> 01:00:09,187
Speaker 28: attitude of this team like like I just said, it

1173
01:00:09,267 --> 01:00:12,347
Speaker 28: seems like they need to go through some sort of

1174
01:00:12,467 --> 01:00:17,827
Speaker 28: adversity to bounce back. They can't string. There's no consistency

1175
01:00:17,907 --> 01:00:20,667
Speaker 28: in this team. It's a there's a leadership issue.

1176
01:00:21,827 --> 01:00:22,147
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1177
01:00:22,187 --> 01:00:25,107
Speaker 28: It seems like Scott Berger's been quiet on the field

1178
01:00:25,227 --> 01:00:28,467
Speaker 28: when things are not going his own way. He looked

1179
01:00:28,467 --> 01:00:32,267
Speaker 28: good last week because we were in front, but this

1180
01:00:32,347 --> 01:00:34,987
Speaker 28: sweet so soon as the second half we've got four

1181
01:00:35,027 --> 01:00:38,067
Speaker 28: name points clear. I mean they got four name points clear.

1182
01:00:38,587 --> 01:00:40,587
Speaker 28: You could kind of see it. This is I don't know,

1183
01:00:40,827 --> 01:00:43,747
Speaker 28: is something quite wrong as this team. And you could

1184
01:00:43,787 --> 01:00:45,587
Speaker 28: see at the end too, I don't know. There was

1185
01:00:45,587 --> 01:00:50,307
Speaker 28: a camera shot of Razor and Scott Hanson just right

1186
01:00:50,387 --> 01:00:51,947
Speaker 28: at the end of full time. They were just sill

1187
01:00:52,027 --> 01:00:54,747
Speaker 28: my sitting there. Hanson was like sort of laying back

1188
01:00:54,827 --> 01:00:57,827
Speaker 28: in his chair, almost like to say, you're two from here.

1189
01:00:58,707 --> 01:00:58,827
Speaker 29: You know.

1190
01:00:59,027 --> 01:01:02,547
Speaker 2: Trust the point you make about the about the response

1191
01:01:02,587 --> 01:01:06,347
Speaker 2: to adversity is so salient because if you want to

1192
01:01:06,387 --> 01:01:07,747
Speaker 2: win a World Cup, you gotta win three games in

1193
01:01:07,747 --> 01:01:09,427
Speaker 2: a row, three big games in a row, so you

1194
01:01:09,507 --> 01:01:13,907
Speaker 2: don't have time or the ability to have adversity. If

1195
01:01:13,947 --> 01:01:16,427
Speaker 2: you want to win the World Cup, if you lose

1196
01:01:16,507 --> 01:01:18,467
Speaker 2: quarter final, you're out. Lose a semi final, you're out.

1197
01:01:19,347 --> 01:01:25,547
Speaker 2: Consistency is elusive for this team. Great call mate, Willie,

1198
01:01:25,947 --> 01:01:27,307
Speaker 2: Willie Jackson.

1199
01:01:27,787 --> 01:01:28,627
Speaker 9: How are you mate?

1200
01:01:29,267 --> 01:01:29,667
Speaker 26: All right?

1201
01:01:30,267 --> 01:01:30,387
Speaker 6: Right?

1202
01:01:30,427 --> 01:01:34,027
Speaker 9: Good to hear from you, hey mate, If there's anything positive,

1203
01:01:34,227 --> 01:01:38,427
Speaker 9: just remember the Box was humiliated about three weeks ago.

1204
01:01:38,827 --> 01:01:42,747
Speaker 9: They lost Remember this thirty eight No we lost thirty

1205
01:01:42,827 --> 01:01:45,747
Speaker 9: six No, they lost thirty eight NOL. We didn't lose

1206
01:01:45,787 --> 01:01:47,387
Speaker 9: thirty six mil at Eden Park.

1207
01:01:47,227 --> 01:01:47,467
Speaker 8: Did we?

1208
01:01:47,867 --> 01:01:48,347
Speaker 11: They lost?

1209
01:01:48,987 --> 01:01:51,587
Speaker 9: They lost thirty eight NOL.

1210
01:01:51,627 --> 01:01:52,507
Speaker 13: At Alice Park.

1211
01:01:52,827 --> 01:01:56,827
Speaker 9: So I just just remind everyone that Geno humiliation wasn't

1212
01:01:56,907 --> 01:02:00,787
Speaker 9: that far. It wasn't so long ago for the Box, right.

1213
01:02:01,427 --> 01:02:03,467
Speaker 2: What about our response then, Willy, are you expecting a

1214
01:02:03,507 --> 01:02:06,227
Speaker 2: similar response because South Africa did respond to that by

1215
01:02:06,747 --> 01:02:08,907
Speaker 2: by winning at Cakeeown the following week, came over here

1216
01:02:08,947 --> 01:02:12,267
Speaker 2: lost narrowly last week one. So are you expecting the

1217
01:02:12,907 --> 01:02:15,387
Speaker 2: response from the All Blacks of Eden Park in a

1218
01:02:15,427 --> 01:02:17,187
Speaker 2: couple of weeks and bled uslow one?

1219
01:02:18,227 --> 01:02:18,387
Speaker 8: Well?

1220
01:02:18,467 --> 01:02:21,187
Speaker 9: One thing with Rassi he tries things. This is the

1221
01:02:21,267 --> 01:02:24,427
Speaker 9: problem with Razor. Razor. I don't know what happened to him.

1222
01:02:24,707 --> 01:02:28,267
Speaker 9: He's risk averse mate, you know, like Rassi tries stuff.

1223
01:02:28,707 --> 01:02:31,747
Speaker 9: Clearly has kept him as look has kept him. Look

1224
01:02:31,827 --> 01:02:34,307
Speaker 9: should he won't do it. But Artie should be made

1225
01:02:34,347 --> 01:02:37,627
Speaker 9: to captain. I think it's absolutely clear for some reason

1226
01:02:37,707 --> 01:02:41,267
Speaker 9: that defects Scott Barrett. You know, look he's not captain's backside.

1227
01:02:41,307 --> 01:02:42,947
Speaker 9: You can see it. I can see it that, anyone

1228
01:02:43,027 --> 01:02:45,627
Speaker 9: can see it. He's a champion player. But captain see

1229
01:02:45,667 --> 01:02:48,267
Speaker 9: affects him, affects him. He won't get rid of him

1230
01:02:48,267 --> 01:02:52,627
Speaker 9: because that's how Razor works, right, anyone knows make Ardie

1231
01:02:52,667 --> 01:02:55,987
Speaker 9: the captain. The other thing is Razor needs assistance. You know,

1232
01:02:56,107 --> 01:02:59,347
Speaker 9: Wayne Smith should be attached to him all the time.

1233
01:02:59,827 --> 01:03:02,667
Speaker 9: He needs some support. Would if Fozzy do he went

1234
01:03:02,787 --> 01:03:06,027
Speaker 9: and got some. He went and got Joe Smith. You know,

1235
01:03:06,187 --> 01:03:10,267
Speaker 9: like clearly Raised has got problems. You know he has

1236
01:03:10,467 --> 01:03:13,587
Speaker 9: his decision maker. Why he brought McAllister Beck into the

1237
01:03:13,667 --> 01:03:15,907
Speaker 9: team is beyond me. He couldn't throw the ball in

1238
01:03:15,947 --> 01:03:19,707
Speaker 9: the in the in the last Test match a pointing,

1239
01:03:20,027 --> 01:03:22,107
Speaker 9: you know, like he got a try so that got

1240
01:03:22,187 --> 01:03:24,227
Speaker 9: him back in. We all know he can't throw the

1241
01:03:24,307 --> 01:03:27,907
Speaker 9: ball and he puts them in the team twenty minutes.

1242
01:03:27,947 --> 01:03:30,507
Speaker 9: Why did he even swap the hookers? You see there's

1243
01:03:30,507 --> 01:03:34,267
Speaker 9: some bad decisions being made by this coach who somehow

1244
01:03:34,427 --> 01:03:36,587
Speaker 9: is not cutting it at Test level. Don't get me wrong,

1245
01:03:36,667 --> 01:03:39,627
Speaker 9: I really like Razor, but we we got to take

1246
01:03:39,667 --> 01:03:42,427
Speaker 9: a risk. He should take a risk. He won't take

1247
01:03:42,467 --> 01:03:44,747
Speaker 9: a risk and will win the next Test match. We

1248
01:03:44,827 --> 01:03:46,627
Speaker 9: might win. Let us then we'll go to Europe and

1249
01:03:46,667 --> 01:03:47,747
Speaker 9: we'll get done by the French.

1250
01:03:47,787 --> 01:03:47,947
Speaker 8: You know.

1251
01:03:48,067 --> 01:03:51,147
Speaker 9: You know how it works, and he seems to be.

1252
01:03:51,267 --> 01:03:51,707
Speaker 8: Risk of this.

1253
01:03:51,987 --> 01:03:54,547
Speaker 9: You know when d mack was playing well in Europe,

1254
01:03:54,627 --> 01:03:57,707
Speaker 9: he played well in Europe, he played tremendously well against

1255
01:03:57,787 --> 01:04:00,707
Speaker 9: Ireland and against for Ahaps he drops them, you know.

1256
01:04:01,027 --> 01:04:03,947
Speaker 9: And it's just I just think there's a leadership problem

1257
01:04:04,027 --> 01:04:07,227
Speaker 9: there that needs to They need assistance, they need support.

1258
01:04:07,947 --> 01:04:11,987
Speaker 9: He needs some good coaching around him, and he needs

1259
01:04:12,067 --> 01:04:14,547
Speaker 9: to change his captain, you know, because I think Ardie

1260
01:04:14,547 --> 01:04:17,107
Speaker 9: would have rallied those troops. There's not a lot of

1261
01:04:17,347 --> 01:04:18,667
Speaker 9: There's not a lot in these games.

1262
01:04:18,707 --> 01:04:18,867
Speaker 7: Now.

1263
01:04:19,187 --> 01:04:21,267
Speaker 9: The games can blow out. It's not the end of

1264
01:04:21,307 --> 01:04:23,547
Speaker 9: the world for the old lecks. Remember the Mighty Box

1265
01:04:24,027 --> 01:04:26,267
Speaker 9: lost thirty eight mil to the Australians.

1266
01:04:26,347 --> 01:04:28,147
Speaker 2: So yeah, well they've got to leave it mate. But

1267
01:04:28,747 --> 01:04:31,067
Speaker 2: always good to hear your passionate thoughts mate, thanks for

1268
01:04:31,147 --> 01:04:34,587
Speaker 2: calling in. I appreciate it. And very salient, too, very salient.

1269
01:04:34,907 --> 01:04:37,187
Speaker 2: One thirty. I will take the final few calls after

1270
01:04:37,267 --> 01:04:37,587
Speaker 2: the break.

1271
01:04:38,027 --> 01:04:43,627
Speaker 1: One crunch Hold engaged Weekend Sports with Jason, him and GJ.

1272
01:04:43,787 --> 01:04:47,987
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1273
01:04:48,307 --> 01:04:49,107
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1274
01:04:49,267 --> 01:04:54,827
Speaker 30: Hey Kevin, Yeah, Hi, Jason Bellison. Here's my take on

1275
01:04:55,027 --> 01:04:59,267
Speaker 30: what needs to happen, not what has happened. What needs

1276
01:04:59,307 --> 01:05:02,147
Speaker 30: to happen is this. The half fact does no more

1277
01:05:02,227 --> 01:05:06,907
Speaker 30: kicking right, and mister Barrett does no more picking down

1278
01:05:06,987 --> 01:05:08,987
Speaker 30: the center of the field for the ball to be

1279
01:05:09,107 --> 01:05:12,587
Speaker 30: returned back. His kicks have got to be aimed for

1280
01:05:12,707 --> 01:05:18,267
Speaker 30: the corner flag and then we've got really good stuff going.

1281
01:05:18,347 --> 01:05:21,507
Speaker 30: The other thing is this that what we've got to

1282
01:05:21,587 --> 01:05:24,907
Speaker 30: do is when we're bending the ball on the back line,

1283
01:05:24,987 --> 01:05:28,587
Speaker 30: we've got to draw the opposition and commit them to

1284
01:05:28,787 --> 01:05:32,827
Speaker 30: tackle me, and then just when that happens, feed the

1285
01:05:32,907 --> 01:05:37,707
Speaker 30: ball on and we've got to penetrate the opposition. And

1286
01:05:38,107 --> 01:05:42,907
Speaker 30: the other most important thing is, Jason, how the hell

1287
01:05:43,747 --> 01:05:48,747
Speaker 30: do we give away taking shots at goal when it's

1288
01:05:48,827 --> 01:05:51,987
Speaker 30: well within our range? It happened last night, happens every game.

1289
01:05:52,707 --> 01:05:57,947
Speaker 30: Why don't we want the three points? It's just madness?

1290
01:05:58,267 --> 01:06:00,307
Speaker 2: All good points and it also do with kicking as well.

1291
01:06:00,427 --> 01:06:03,267
Speaker 2: I agree on the box kick, mate. I asked Cory

1292
01:06:03,347 --> 01:06:06,067
Speaker 2: Joan about it yesterday and you know he gave a

1293
01:06:06,707 --> 01:06:09,867
Speaker 2: a fairly logical answer. The reason they box kick now

1294
01:06:09,987 --> 01:06:13,347
Speaker 2: is because it is fifty to fifty. But as I've

1295
01:06:13,347 --> 01:06:15,947
Speaker 2: said a couple of times, if it's fifty fifty, we

1296
01:06:15,987 --> 01:06:20,307
Speaker 2: should win. Fifty percent of them haven't been. There are

1297
01:06:20,387 --> 01:06:22,987
Speaker 2: so many work ons now, right. That's the issue here

1298
01:06:23,627 --> 01:06:25,707
Speaker 2: that it's not just one thing to fix now after

1299
01:06:25,787 --> 01:06:30,587
Speaker 2: last night, there are a bunch of things that need focus.

1300
01:06:31,707 --> 01:06:35,787
Speaker 2: And what's today the fourteenth of September, so we've got

1301
01:06:36,827 --> 01:06:42,027
Speaker 2: twelve days to fix them? Say we your Black's coaches

1302
01:06:42,067 --> 01:06:44,907
Speaker 2: have Kevin, thank you, Adam High.

1303
01:06:46,147 --> 01:06:47,027
Speaker 13: Hey, Jason, how are going?

1304
01:06:47,467 --> 01:06:48,587
Speaker 2: I'm good, Adam, I'm good.

1305
01:06:48,667 --> 01:06:48,947
Speaker 31: Thanks?

1306
01:06:49,307 --> 01:06:50,707
Speaker 2: What's the top of your mind? Mate?

1307
01:06:52,227 --> 01:06:55,747
Speaker 21: A bit like everyone else, their comments are based on emotion.

1308
01:06:57,547 --> 01:07:00,867
Speaker 21: I would say it will be fixed and stop worrying

1309
01:07:00,907 --> 01:07:05,747
Speaker 21: about it. Let's remember twenty seventeen. I think it was

1310
01:07:06,387 --> 01:07:10,107
Speaker 21: put fifty seven nil on South Africa. Have they have

1311
01:07:10,227 --> 01:07:13,547
Speaker 21: they been worse since then, No, they've improved.

1312
01:07:14,107 --> 01:07:16,107
Speaker 2: To be fair, Adam, they did, to be fair at them.

1313
01:07:16,147 --> 01:07:18,947
Speaker 2: They did change their coach after that. I used that

1314
01:07:18,987 --> 01:07:21,027
Speaker 2: as an analogy earlier. You're right, they went on to

1315
01:07:21,067 --> 01:07:22,867
Speaker 2: win the World Cup and then the next one as well,

1316
01:07:23,707 --> 01:07:25,587
Speaker 2: they did change their coach. I don't I don't think.

1317
01:07:25,627 --> 01:07:26,427
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going.

1318
01:07:26,347 --> 01:07:26,627
Speaker 8: To do that.

1319
01:07:27,587 --> 01:07:27,787
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1320
01:07:27,947 --> 01:07:29,027
Speaker 14: No, no, we're not going to do that.

1321
01:07:29,107 --> 01:07:30,307
Speaker 16: And it'll be madness to do it.

1322
01:07:30,947 --> 01:07:32,627
Speaker 13: There's clearly some some issues.

1323
01:07:32,387 --> 01:07:34,787
Speaker 21: Going on in coaching ranks, but that's fine. I'm sure

1324
01:07:34,787 --> 01:07:37,147
Speaker 21: they'll they'll figure it out. And the second thing is

1325
01:07:37,227 --> 01:07:40,867
Speaker 21: we put what sixty odd on front twenty fifteen World

1326
01:07:40,867 --> 01:07:42,987
Speaker 21: Cup fronts are now a better fider mate.

1327
01:07:42,987 --> 01:07:44,187
Speaker 8: Why can't we fix it as well?

1328
01:07:45,227 --> 01:07:47,107
Speaker 2: Adam. That is the That is the glimmer of light

1329
01:07:47,507 --> 01:07:50,467
Speaker 2: that I'm glad you've produced right at the end of

1330
01:07:50,507 --> 01:07:53,947
Speaker 2: our talkback on this topic, because I'll bring it back

1331
01:07:53,987 --> 01:07:57,187
Speaker 2: to that to finish. I was on the ground last

1332
01:07:57,227 --> 01:07:58,747
Speaker 2: night and the All Blacks, to their credit and they

1333
01:07:58,787 --> 01:08:01,547
Speaker 2: never wouldn't have that. They stayed out on the ground

1334
01:08:02,507 --> 01:08:06,107
Speaker 2: and to a man, watched the Freedom Cup be handed

1335
01:08:06,147 --> 01:08:09,227
Speaker 2: over to see a Calisi. I mean they already had

1336
01:08:09,267 --> 01:08:11,067
Speaker 2: it anyway. The All Blacks had to win both tests

1337
01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:16,347
Speaker 2: to reclaim the Freedom Cup. Instead, South Africa retain possession

1338
01:08:16,387 --> 01:08:22,067
Speaker 2: of it. And you can only hope that the emotion

1339
01:08:22,467 --> 01:08:24,867
Speaker 2: that was flowing through those men last night as they

1340
01:08:24,987 --> 01:08:29,307
Speaker 2: watched South Africa celebrate understated celebrations too, by the way,

1341
01:08:29,307 --> 01:08:32,867
Speaker 2: which shows the respect. You can only hope that that

1342
01:08:33,027 --> 01:08:36,507
Speaker 2: is the fuel they need, That they remember that feeling

1343
01:08:36,627 --> 01:08:40,667
Speaker 2: last night from September thirteen, twenty twenty five in Wellington

1344
01:08:41,907 --> 01:08:45,827
Speaker 2: and use it to fuel them. Say to themselves, I

1345
01:08:46,027 --> 01:08:49,547
Speaker 2: never ever, ever ever want to feel this way again.

1346
01:08:50,307 --> 01:08:52,227
Speaker 2: We may well look back in two years time, in

1347
01:08:52,307 --> 01:08:56,147
Speaker 2: six years time. Who knows at Wellington September thirteen, twenty

1348
01:08:56,227 --> 01:08:59,507
Speaker 2: twenty five as a seminal moment in our rugby history

1349
01:09:00,507 --> 01:09:03,867
Speaker 2: and who knows hopefully as a turning point as well.

1350
01:09:04,267 --> 01:09:09,907
Speaker 2: Twenty three to two for ran Furley Shield Rugby this

1351
01:09:10,107 --> 01:09:13,667
Speaker 2: afternoon Canterbury against Tasman. Nick Buley has to call a

1352
01:09:13,867 --> 01:09:17,107
Speaker 2: Tasman any chance this afternoon, Nick.

1353
01:09:17,627 --> 01:09:21,267
Speaker 31: Good afternoon to you piney Well never fear the country's

1354
01:09:21,907 --> 01:09:23,827
Speaker 31: second team Canterbury are here.

1355
01:09:24,107 --> 01:09:30,787
Speaker 2: So wow no yeah, no, look I hear you. I

1356
01:09:30,947 --> 01:09:33,027
Speaker 2: hear you. Look, I think a lot of people do

1357
01:09:33,227 --> 01:09:35,587
Speaker 2: like Tasman. I just can't see Tasman winning this game.

1358
01:09:35,947 --> 01:09:38,627
Speaker 2: Canterbury just seem so much better than everybody else. This's

1359
01:09:38,747 --> 01:09:40,947
Speaker 2: NPC season. Yeah, unfallible thus far.

1360
01:09:41,227 --> 01:09:44,507
Speaker 31: Piney six and ohero and very dominant the last couple

1361
01:09:44,507 --> 01:09:46,707
Speaker 31: of weeks, winning the Shield last week over Southland fifty

1362
01:09:46,747 --> 01:09:49,267
Speaker 31: four to fourteen. There was a similar score line the

1363
01:09:49,307 --> 01:09:51,747
Speaker 31: week before, and run you're against Mona with two. Probably

1364
01:09:51,787 --> 01:09:55,627
Speaker 31: what's been again most impressive for me has been their defense.

1365
01:09:55,987 --> 01:09:59,827
Speaker 31: I think they conceded something like seventy four points for

1366
01:09:59,947 --> 01:10:02,467
Speaker 31: the season, which my math tells me about an average

1367
01:10:02,507 --> 01:10:05,227
Speaker 31: twelve points a game. They've been out of chopping, change

1368
01:10:05,227 --> 01:10:07,747
Speaker 31: players in and out, like Sir Sam Dowry going away

1369
01:10:07,827 --> 01:10:09,907
Speaker 31: last week being in that all Blacks environment. He's back

1370
01:10:09,947 --> 01:10:12,547
Speaker 31: this afternoon. They having a couple of injuries in the

1371
01:10:12,587 --> 01:10:14,827
Speaker 31: loose four department, so that'll be interesting how it goes

1372
01:10:14,867 --> 01:10:18,067
Speaker 31: this afternoon. Corey Callos had a magnificent season so far.

1373
01:10:18,187 --> 01:10:21,947
Speaker 31: He is out unfortunately with a knee injury. So Zach

1374
01:10:22,027 --> 01:10:24,667
Speaker 31: Gallagher goes in. He usually plays his rugby at Locke.

1375
01:10:24,667 --> 01:10:28,307
Speaker 31: He'll be at Blindside flanker this afternoon. But no, it's

1376
01:10:28,347 --> 01:10:30,587
Speaker 31: going to take something rather special from Tasman. They did

1377
01:10:30,667 --> 01:10:33,227
Speaker 31: win four straight Piney and then had a bit of

1378
01:10:33,267 --> 01:10:36,267
Speaker 31: a surprise loss at home to Auckland, who that was

1379
01:10:36,347 --> 01:10:39,307
Speaker 31: Auckland's first win of the season. But you look at

1380
01:10:39,347 --> 01:10:41,307
Speaker 31: some of these names on paper and I think by

1381
01:10:41,387 --> 01:10:45,147
Speaker 31: Mike count there are twenty Crusaders in total of the

1382
01:10:45,707 --> 01:10:49,907
Speaker 31: forty six men set to play this afternoon. But there's

1383
01:10:49,947 --> 01:10:53,587
Speaker 31: some serious firepower. Lester Fying a nuoku for one really

1384
01:10:53,667 --> 01:10:56,267
Speaker 31: interested to see how he goes. He's actually been promoted

1385
01:10:56,867 --> 01:10:58,707
Speaker 31: to the starting side in the last couple of hours.

1386
01:10:58,747 --> 01:11:00,907
Speaker 31: He's going to start at second five eighth. You got

1387
01:11:00,987 --> 01:11:05,027
Speaker 31: David Harvilly, William Harvilly, Mitchell Drummond, Quinn Strange, so a

1388
01:11:05,067 --> 01:11:06,347
Speaker 31: lot of class. Yeah, I'm not going to say it's

1389
01:11:06,467 --> 01:11:09,707
Speaker 31: so outside of the realms of possibility for Tasman, but

1390
01:11:09,747 --> 01:11:11,667
Speaker 31: I think they're going to have to put together a

1391
01:11:11,787 --> 01:11:13,147
Speaker 31: complete eighty minute performance.

1392
01:11:13,427 --> 01:11:15,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the back three as well, Maca Springer, Karen

1393
01:11:16,147 --> 01:11:20,627
Speaker 2: Talmoy Filo and David HARVILLI there's some wheels, some experience there.

1394
01:11:21,067 --> 01:11:23,827
Speaker 2: I wonder I have to revise my initial thought on this.

1395
01:11:25,947 --> 01:11:26,107
Speaker 14: Look.

1396
01:11:26,267 --> 01:11:29,867
Speaker 2: Canterbury have just shown us the value of consistency, haven't they.

1397
01:11:30,307 --> 01:11:33,067
Speaker 2: And and you're right. I mean this is obviously a Crusaders.

1398
01:11:33,467 --> 01:11:37,467
Speaker 2: Derby and Tasman will have designs of course on prizing

1399
01:11:37,547 --> 01:11:39,827
Speaker 2: that that log of wood away. But just the ease

1400
01:11:39,947 --> 01:11:43,747
Speaker 2: with which Canterbury dismantled Southland last week. You know, has

1401
01:11:43,787 --> 01:11:47,227
Speaker 2: a Ramfilly Shield challenger ever been so convincing.

1402
01:11:48,267 --> 01:11:50,267
Speaker 31: No, not off the top of my head, at least

1403
01:11:50,747 --> 01:11:53,907
Speaker 31: Piney in terms of how clinical Canterbury were. And you're

1404
01:11:53,987 --> 01:11:56,587
Speaker 31: right in terms of that consistency, there's by and large

1405
01:11:56,667 --> 01:12:00,467
Speaker 31: been a consistency of selection. This is a team that

1406
01:12:00,707 --> 01:12:02,227
Speaker 31: has had a little bit of turnover. It's fair to

1407
01:12:02,267 --> 01:12:05,067
Speaker 31: say too when you think of guys like Billy Harmon,

1408
01:12:05,507 --> 01:12:08,547
Speaker 31: Mitch Drummond move to Tasman, Willie Hines, Ryan Croddy now

1409
01:12:08,587 --> 01:12:11,347
Speaker 31: part of the Canterbury backstaff as opposed to being in

1410
01:12:12,027 --> 01:12:16,147
Speaker 31: the team itself. I keep hearing how connected this Canterbury

1411
01:12:16,187 --> 01:12:18,227
Speaker 31: team feel in terms of where they are in their careers.

1412
01:12:18,267 --> 01:12:20,147
Speaker 31: There's a lot of young guys coming through and a

1413
01:12:20,427 --> 01:12:22,347
Speaker 31: lot of guys I suppose they're on the periphery of

1414
01:12:23,187 --> 01:12:26,267
Speaker 31: breaking through into super rugby environments or trying to promote

1415
01:12:26,267 --> 01:12:28,867
Speaker 31: themselves for higher honors through into the All Blacks. So

1416
01:12:29,187 --> 01:12:31,747
Speaker 31: it's a very determined team and a team that hasn't

1417
01:12:31,787 --> 01:12:34,627
Speaker 31: had success for some time. And just looking over at

1418
01:12:35,627 --> 01:12:38,627
Speaker 31: what would you call that maybe the sou West corner

1419
01:12:38,667 --> 01:12:40,867
Speaker 31: here at Apollo Project, statedma in Christich. There are a

1420
01:12:40,947 --> 01:12:44,747
Speaker 31: lot of years on the light tower that signify each

1421
01:12:44,867 --> 01:12:47,947
Speaker 31: year that Canterbury have won the NPC title, but it's

1422
01:12:47,987 --> 01:12:50,187
Speaker 31: a little bit barren over the last seven years, the

1423
01:12:50,347 --> 01:12:53,067
Speaker 31: last of which are their last title being in twenty seventeen.

1424
01:12:53,067 --> 01:12:55,187
Speaker 31: So it feels like this is a Canterbury team with

1425
01:12:55,587 --> 01:12:57,987
Speaker 31: plenty to prove. It all sets up really nicely for

1426
01:12:58,067 --> 01:13:01,307
Speaker 31: this afternoon, just for the train. Spot is out there, pioneers,

1427
01:13:01,387 --> 01:13:03,147
Speaker 31: I know there will be a few. In terms of history,

1428
01:13:03,187 --> 01:13:06,267
Speaker 31: the log of Wood has not been with five provinces

1429
01:13:06,587 --> 01:13:11,387
Speaker 31: in the same calendar year since nineteen fifty seventy five

1430
01:13:11,507 --> 01:13:14,907
Speaker 31: years ago. I went from the hands of Otago to

1431
01:13:15,067 --> 01:13:17,507
Speaker 31: Canterbury to Wide It up a Bush, to South Canterbury

1432
01:13:17,987 --> 01:13:20,627
Speaker 31: to North Auckland. My thanks to Lindsey Knight for that

1433
01:13:20,747 --> 01:13:24,467
Speaker 31: little nugget of information. And it is forty years to

1434
01:13:24,587 --> 01:13:28,147
Speaker 31: the day since what many dubbed the match of the

1435
01:13:28,307 --> 01:13:34,907
Speaker 31: century September fourteen, nineteen eighty five, Auckland reefing the Ranfrelly

1436
01:13:34,987 --> 01:13:37,427
Speaker 31: Shield away from the hands of Canterbury about five k

1437
01:13:37,547 --> 01:13:39,987
Speaker 31: from where we are this afternoon, from Lancaster Park twenty

1438
01:13:40,027 --> 01:13:43,027
Speaker 31: eight twenty three. There were twenty three All Blacks who

1439
01:13:43,067 --> 01:13:46,427
Speaker 31: played on that day, and of course that began Auckland's

1440
01:13:47,587 --> 01:13:50,787
Speaker 31: ridiculous run. I think they defended the Ramfally shields sixty

1441
01:13:50,867 --> 01:13:53,507
Speaker 31: one times from eighty five to about ninety three. So

1442
01:13:54,067 --> 01:13:55,667
Speaker 31: come a little bits of history there for you, Pint.

1443
01:13:55,827 --> 01:13:57,587
Speaker 2: I love this, I love that. This is the reason

1444
01:13:57,627 --> 01:14:00,427
Speaker 2: we hand you the microphone. This is the reason why

1445
01:14:00,587 --> 01:14:04,867
Speaker 2: have you assembled a satisfactory team around you there today

1446
01:14:04,947 --> 01:14:06,547
Speaker 2: to call on Gold's.

1447
01:14:06,507 --> 01:14:08,747
Speaker 31: We've got the A team as always John Haggard, he

1448
01:14:08,787 --> 01:14:10,627
Speaker 31: knows what it takes from a coaching experience to win

1449
01:14:10,667 --> 01:14:12,347
Speaker 31: the rand Philly Shield. He did some in two thousand

1450
01:14:12,387 --> 01:14:13,347
Speaker 31: and seven with Canterbury.

1451
01:14:13,387 --> 01:14:14,547
Speaker 2: He's with us this afternoon.

1452
01:14:14,987 --> 01:14:18,627
Speaker 31: Craig Kerr, our sideline, I and the technical expertise as always,

1453
01:14:18,707 --> 01:14:19,507
Speaker 31: the gold standard.

1454
01:14:19,787 --> 01:14:22,667
Speaker 2: Bill Toomey, that is the A team. Indeed, thanks mate,

1455
01:14:22,747 --> 01:14:24,347
Speaker 2: enjoy the call. We'll look forward to hearing it on

1456
01:14:24,427 --> 01:14:28,227
Speaker 2: Gold Sport and iHeartRadio after two o'clock Nick Buley with

1457
01:14:28,347 --> 01:14:30,947
Speaker 2: John Haggett and Craig Kerr. Bill Toomey pushing the buttons

1458
01:14:30,987 --> 01:14:34,547
Speaker 2: at Apollo Project Stadium in christ Church as Tasman attempt

1459
01:14:34,587 --> 01:14:37,627
Speaker 2: to take the Ranfhilly Shield away from Canterbury eighteen to

1460
01:14:37,667 --> 01:14:39,267
Speaker 2: two Back in a sec with James mcconey.

1461
01:14:40,187 --> 01:14:43,107
Speaker 1: Should you be the TMO? Have your say on eight

1462
01:14:43,227 --> 01:14:46,507
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1463
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1464
01:14:51,107 --> 01:14:54,547
Speaker 2: NB quarter to two Sunday Afternoons, which hat to James

1465
01:14:54,667 --> 01:14:58,547
Speaker 2: mcconey who was in the ACC commentary box last night

1466
01:14:58,627 --> 01:15:02,787
Speaker 2: for that one. You've given it the overnight test. How

1467
01:15:02,787 --> 01:15:03,387
Speaker 2: are you feeling?

1468
01:15:04,227 --> 01:15:05,667
Speaker 11: You know, well, we took it well on the night

1469
01:15:05,747 --> 01:15:08,347
Speaker 11: at the ac Sea Pony, although we did flip most

1470
01:15:08,427 --> 01:15:12,547
Speaker 11: of the desks that enzir Me headquarters in Central Auckland

1471
01:15:12,587 --> 01:15:16,427
Speaker 11: there so apologized to as they be colleagues. But look,

1472
01:15:16,747 --> 01:15:19,587
Speaker 11: I was actually kind of vaguely happy about it because

1473
01:15:19,587 --> 01:15:22,267
Speaker 11: I just loved the way South Africa played. It was

1474
01:15:22,347 --> 01:15:25,987
Speaker 11: Champagne rugby playing the style that we've kind of longed for.

1475
01:15:26,067 --> 01:15:29,387
Speaker 11: A lot of your callers are getting nostalgic on the line,

1476
01:15:29,507 --> 01:15:31,627
Speaker 11: just saying I remember when the All Blacks played that way,

1477
01:15:31,707 --> 01:15:34,067
Speaker 11: and so as a rugby fan, I was thinking, yeah, play,

1478
01:15:34,347 --> 01:15:34,787
Speaker 11: I loved it.

1479
01:15:36,107 --> 01:15:38,867
Speaker 2: Yeah. You have to be happy for South Africa, don't you,

1480
01:15:39,027 --> 01:15:41,667
Speaker 2: because they were terrific and their fans, I mean, their

1481
01:15:41,707 --> 01:15:44,867
Speaker 2: fans are so cool. Last week in Auckland, again in

1482
01:15:44,987 --> 01:15:49,267
Speaker 2: Wellington last night. They're like us. They love their rugby team.

1483
01:15:49,627 --> 01:15:52,747
Speaker 2: They loved playing against us as we love playing against them.

1484
01:15:53,147 --> 01:15:54,667
Speaker 2: You can't help but be happy for them.

1485
01:15:55,347 --> 01:15:57,627
Speaker 11: Yeah, and they showed us this pace and power that

1486
01:15:57,707 --> 01:16:00,107
Speaker 11: they've got, but also picking their moments, it was a

1487
01:16:00,187 --> 01:16:03,627
Speaker 11: lot of enterprise show and it wasn't boring the style. Yeah,

1488
01:16:03,627 --> 01:16:06,187
Speaker 11: they were the old the box kicks. By the way,

1489
01:16:06,627 --> 01:16:08,107
Speaker 11: box kicking isn't that hard.

1490
01:16:08,467 --> 01:16:09,067
Speaker 13: Get out there.

1491
01:16:09,067 --> 01:16:11,227
Speaker 11: If you've got a young half back in your household,

1492
01:16:11,307 --> 01:16:13,667
Speaker 11: get him out there, just kick it really hard in

1493
01:16:13,747 --> 01:16:15,827
Speaker 11: the belly of the ball, right in that sweet spot.

1494
01:16:16,107 --> 01:16:18,587
Speaker 11: I mean, most of your teammates down at Tawa Football

1495
01:16:18,627 --> 01:16:21,827
Speaker 11: Club could probably box kit pony. It isn't that hard.

1496
01:16:21,987 --> 01:16:25,347
Speaker 11: Get some elevation on it. Look at videos of Connor Murray.

1497
01:16:25,547 --> 01:16:27,347
Speaker 11: We need to get better at that skill.

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01:16:28,427 --> 01:16:29,267
Speaker 8: But I digress.

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01:16:30,547 --> 01:16:33,747
Speaker 11: I was just gonna say that, have you boxed Skip

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01:16:33,787 --> 01:16:34,387
Speaker 11: by the way, pony?

1501
01:16:34,427 --> 01:16:34,547
Speaker 23: Have you?

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01:16:34,867 --> 01:16:34,907
Speaker 8: No?

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01:16:35,147 --> 01:16:35,187
Speaker 22: No?

1504
01:16:35,427 --> 01:16:41,947
Speaker 13: What I like, I know, no, we need to get better.

1505
01:16:41,787 --> 01:16:44,307
Speaker 11: At that skill. But what what what Rassi has done

1506
01:16:44,387 --> 01:16:46,667
Speaker 11: is he's at least the dragon because these younger faster

1507
01:16:46,827 --> 01:16:48,867
Speaker 11: backs from South Africa that he picked for this week,

1508
01:16:49,427 --> 01:16:52,787
Speaker 11: if they keep stay together with Tony Brown helping them,

1509
01:16:53,027 --> 01:16:55,787
Speaker 11: you know, sort of pulling some strings, that it could

1510
01:16:55,827 --> 01:16:58,907
Speaker 11: make them unbeatable for the next World Cup. And they

1511
01:16:59,027 --> 01:17:01,787
Speaker 11: knew the Orblecks would keep kicking, and they suddenly decided

1512
01:17:01,787 --> 01:17:04,907
Speaker 11: to counterattack, and it shocked us to our core. And

1513
01:17:05,467 --> 01:17:07,467
Speaker 11: and that was that was kind of concerning. And the

1514
01:17:07,547 --> 01:17:10,787
Speaker 11: other thing I did notice is that look gainsmanship was

1515
01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:13,787
Speaker 11: kind of funny really because the rest had no more drama.

1516
01:17:13,947 --> 01:17:16,627
Speaker 11: He pulled them both captains aside, no more silly buggers,

1517
01:17:16,947 --> 01:17:21,187
Speaker 11: and straight away Jasper Visa tackled Jeordie straighter after the whistle,

1518
01:17:21,307 --> 01:17:24,307
Speaker 11: and I was quite amused by that because they really

1519
01:17:24,387 --> 01:17:26,267
Speaker 11: know how to get under our skin and fair play

1520
01:17:26,347 --> 01:17:26,707
Speaker 11: to them.

1521
01:17:27,227 --> 01:17:29,547
Speaker 2: I thought. Leroy Carter had a pretty good debut.

1522
01:17:29,707 --> 01:17:33,707
Speaker 11: What did you think yep Lero was best on field

1523
01:17:33,747 --> 01:17:37,747
Speaker 11: for us? You know, he actually sparked a lot of

1524
01:17:37,787 --> 01:17:40,147
Speaker 11: our attack And one thing that did concern me though,

1525
01:17:40,267 --> 01:17:42,627
Speaker 11: with you know, a couple of times we had what

1526
01:17:43,187 --> 01:17:45,827
Speaker 11: looked like overlaps. And I guess not all overlaps are

1527
01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:48,547
Speaker 11: created equally because of how good covert offense is, but

1528
01:17:49,147 --> 01:17:52,307
Speaker 11: why not explore it? Why not take that extra twenty

1529
01:17:52,387 --> 01:17:55,227
Speaker 11: or thirty yards meters that you can get out wide

1530
01:17:55,387 --> 01:17:56,507
Speaker 11: in that channel.

1531
01:17:56,427 --> 01:17:57,587
Speaker 8: And then see what happens.

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01:17:57,667 --> 01:17:59,667
Speaker 11: But you know, a couple of times I think we

1533
01:17:59,747 --> 01:18:02,067
Speaker 11: decided to check or hold on to it, and I

1534
01:18:02,227 --> 01:18:04,827
Speaker 11: just sort of think maybe their impulses or their decision making,

1535
01:18:05,187 --> 01:18:09,067
Speaker 11: something's going on with the overall strategy. And even listening

1536
01:18:09,147 --> 01:18:13,867
Speaker 11: to Jason Ryan, that was quite revealing because it doesn't

1537
01:18:13,867 --> 01:18:16,707
Speaker 11: sound like everyone's on the same page that he wasn't

1538
01:18:16,707 --> 01:18:19,307
Speaker 11: happy happy with the kicking game. But the one other

1539
01:18:19,387 --> 01:18:21,707
Speaker 11: thing I wanted to talk to you about was was

1540
01:18:21,907 --> 01:18:26,907
Speaker 11: selection pinty or signing players, because you know, Mark Talire,

1541
01:18:27,027 --> 01:18:30,707
Speaker 11: why do we ever let him go? There needs to

1542
01:18:30,787 --> 01:18:34,987
Speaker 11: be you know, there's a lot of I guess conjecture

1543
01:18:35,027 --> 01:18:37,627
Speaker 11: around him leaving. But you know, do we just make

1544
01:18:37,667 --> 01:18:40,107
Speaker 11: the call because of his age or something? But you know,

1545
01:18:40,627 --> 01:18:44,147
Speaker 11: with the South Africans, Rassi, he knows who he wants.

1546
01:18:44,227 --> 01:18:45,227
Speaker 9: He's saying to.

1547
01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:47,987
Speaker 11: He's not saying to Quaker Smith, Malcolm Marx or Peter

1548
01:18:48,067 --> 01:18:50,747
Speaker 11: Steph the toy who were all playing in Japan. He's

1549
01:18:50,787 --> 01:18:52,787
Speaker 11: not saying, hey, you guys didn't have a good game

1550
01:18:52,827 --> 01:18:55,787
Speaker 11: against the Shiba, I'm not picking you for the Test series.

1551
01:18:55,827 --> 01:18:58,787
Speaker 11: He knows exactly what he wants, and so I wonder

1552
01:18:58,827 --> 01:19:03,067
Speaker 11: where the raiser. On the other hand, the past two

1553
01:19:03,107 --> 01:19:05,107
Speaker 11: years of Super Rugby that he's watched, he's watched the

1554
01:19:05,187 --> 01:19:07,747
Speaker 11: Blues dominic in the first year and they were actually

1555
01:19:07,787 --> 01:19:10,827
Speaker 11: pretty good in the second year with Ford dominance. How

1556
01:19:10,907 --> 01:19:13,427
Speaker 11: many Blues are in our forward pack, well, zero?

1557
01:19:15,427 --> 01:19:17,627
Speaker 2: And you're right, it'll open up. It will open up

1558
01:19:17,667 --> 01:19:19,947
Speaker 2: the conversation about picking off short players again. And we

1559
01:19:19,987 --> 01:19:21,307
Speaker 2: don't have time to go into that today.

1560
01:19:21,347 --> 01:19:22,107
Speaker 16: But I.

1561
01:19:24,187 --> 01:19:27,107
Speaker 2: Mentioned before twenty eight of the forty three points scored

1562
01:19:27,107 --> 01:19:29,107
Speaker 2: by South Africa last night was scored by players who

1563
01:19:29,147 --> 01:19:32,427
Speaker 2: play in Japan. You know, it ain't no soft league anymore,

1564
01:19:32,507 --> 01:19:32,627
Speaker 2: is it.

1565
01:19:33,307 --> 01:19:33,347
Speaker 32: No?

1566
01:19:33,507 --> 01:19:35,787
Speaker 11: We're letting players go up there. You know, Shannon Frazell,

1567
01:19:35,827 --> 01:19:37,507
Speaker 11: I know we're getting Richie Moore on the back, but

1568
01:19:37,947 --> 01:19:40,267
Speaker 11: I understand that we can't compete with money. But I

1569
01:19:40,347 --> 01:19:43,867
Speaker 11: think the Mark Tale decision, I think was baffling for me,

1570
01:19:43,987 --> 01:19:47,387
Speaker 11: and also keeping Hoskinstitutjo out of the team last year

1571
01:19:47,507 --> 01:19:50,307
Speaker 11: has really come back to bite them because Jaspavisa, who

1572
01:19:50,347 --> 01:19:53,707
Speaker 11: played an incredible game at number eight, similar dimensions, a

1573
01:19:53,787 --> 01:19:56,547
Speaker 11: big body just dominating and getting front football.

1574
01:19:56,947 --> 01:19:57,867
Speaker 16: Well, wouldn't you want that?

1575
01:19:57,947 --> 01:20:00,827
Speaker 11: You've got a guy playing today for County's Monico down

1576
01:20:01,067 --> 01:20:03,947
Speaker 11: in the cargo by the way, just side note, tell

1577
01:20:03,987 --> 01:20:06,587
Speaker 11: you a news team. Apparently the County team had to

1578
01:20:06,667 --> 01:20:09,587
Speaker 11: travel by bus from christ Church to in the Cargo

1579
01:20:10,827 --> 01:20:14,187
Speaker 11: and got there after midnight last night. So that is

1580
01:20:14,227 --> 01:20:17,707
Speaker 11: an eight hour bus ride before a big rugby game.

1581
01:20:18,227 --> 01:20:22,227
Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, that's problem. Well I don't do you

1582
01:20:22,307 --> 01:20:23,707
Speaker 2: know why no flights?

1583
01:20:24,667 --> 01:20:27,067
Speaker 11: I'm I'm not sure why, but I'm pretty sure that's

1584
01:20:27,107 --> 01:20:31,147
Speaker 11: what happened, So it's worth someone asking afterwards. And look,

1585
01:20:31,187 --> 01:20:34,147
Speaker 11: I mean, I just think decision making is big for me, poney,

1586
01:20:34,187 --> 01:20:36,707
Speaker 11: and I feel sorry for Billy Proctor because he threw

1587
01:20:36,947 --> 01:20:40,827
Speaker 11: a really shocking intercept got faked out by Cheslin who

1588
01:20:40,867 --> 01:20:43,227
Speaker 11: sort of you know happens in touch where somebody fakes

1589
01:20:43,307 --> 01:20:45,987
Speaker 11: the touch and goes for the decep of vice versa.

1590
01:20:46,427 --> 01:20:49,467
Speaker 11: But you know, selling a dummy is sometimes a good thing.

1591
01:20:49,507 --> 01:20:51,227
Speaker 11: There's nothing wrong with the old double cump, you.

1592
01:20:51,267 --> 01:20:54,507
Speaker 2: Know, there isn't. Indeed, Hey, I've only got about a

1593
01:20:54,547 --> 01:20:57,547
Speaker 2: minute to go. Can you cover Warriors and Black Ferns

1594
01:20:57,547 --> 01:20:57,987
Speaker 2: in that time?

1595
01:20:59,587 --> 01:21:00,027
Speaker 8: Probably not?

1596
01:21:00,347 --> 01:21:02,827
Speaker 11: And I think the Worries we actually spoke about it

1597
01:21:02,907 --> 01:21:04,227
Speaker 11: last week. I thought they were going to go down

1598
01:21:04,307 --> 01:21:06,827
Speaker 11: to the Panthers, that it's a bridge too far, losing

1599
01:21:06,907 --> 01:21:10,747
Speaker 11: Metcalf by met All that sort of leadership and direction

1600
01:21:10,907 --> 01:21:12,387
Speaker 11: out of the team, though they punched.

1601
01:21:12,067 --> 01:21:12,667
Speaker 13: Above their weight.

1602
01:21:12,747 --> 01:21:15,187
Speaker 11: So not a bad season this year. So and then

1603
01:21:15,227 --> 01:21:17,947
Speaker 11: the Black Ferns getting shocked by South Africa ten all

1604
01:21:17,987 --> 01:21:22,227
Speaker 11: at half time. Just the class coming through and here

1605
01:21:22,267 --> 01:21:25,547
Speaker 11: we can all enjoy the Black Ferns march because I

1606
01:21:25,627 --> 01:21:28,867
Speaker 11: think you know they're on track for something special. But

1607
01:21:30,067 --> 01:21:32,227
Speaker 11: England and Canada at full strength will be tough to be.

1608
01:21:33,147 --> 01:21:35,907
Speaker 2: Great to chat as always, James, thanks for joining us.

1609
01:21:35,947 --> 01:21:37,427
Speaker 2: We'll do it again next Sunday.

1610
01:21:37,467 --> 01:21:42,027
Speaker 11: Eh, cheers mate, good good in the background on TV

1611
01:21:42,187 --> 01:21:42,667
Speaker 11: looking great.

1612
01:21:44,507 --> 01:21:48,547
Speaker 2: You you need to need to zoom in. Thanks James.

1613
01:21:48,627 --> 01:21:50,867
Speaker 2: James McConney. Big part of our Sunday seven and a

1614
01:21:50,907 --> 01:21:51,987
Speaker 2: half away from two.

1615
01:21:54,187 --> 01:21:56,787
Speaker 1: Let's go from the track field and the court on

1616
01:21:56,947 --> 01:21:59,387
Speaker 1: your home of sort weekends.

1617
01:21:59,307 --> 01:22:03,747
Speaker 2: With coming up four to two. Apparently it wasn't just

1618
01:22:03,787 --> 01:22:06,107
Speaker 2: a county's Medicare rugby team in trouble in the South

1619
01:22:06,147 --> 01:22:09,427
Speaker 2: all yesterday with their travel arm Piney. We had some

1620
01:22:09,867 --> 01:22:13,187
Speaker 2: cat show judges who had to drive christ Church to

1621
01:22:13,307 --> 01:22:15,587
Speaker 2: Dunedin because their flight was canceled due to the weather

1622
01:22:15,627 --> 01:22:17,987
Speaker 2: lot's affected. I guess there you go. So not just

1623
01:22:18,147 --> 01:22:20,307
Speaker 2: rugby plays cat show judges as well. Hope they got

1624
01:22:20,307 --> 01:22:23,867
Speaker 2: there okay. And final text on the All Blacks. This

1625
01:22:24,067 --> 01:22:27,067
Speaker 2: is the Shane warn effect, says Ian. We hate it

1626
01:22:27,187 --> 01:22:31,227
Speaker 2: so much because it was so good. Well done South Africa. Yep.

1627
01:22:31,347 --> 01:22:35,547
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that they were magnificent

1628
01:22:35,667 --> 01:22:39,307
Speaker 2: last night. After two o'clock, I want to focus on

1629
01:22:39,347 --> 01:22:41,187
Speaker 2: a couple of things that also happened last night. The

1630
01:22:41,267 --> 01:22:45,107
Speaker 2: Warriors going down to the Penrith Panthers and their season

1631
01:22:45,187 --> 01:22:50,907
Speaker 2: has come to an end at the first finals weekend. Yeah,

1632
01:22:51,067 --> 01:22:52,667
Speaker 2: I feel very differently about the Warriors than I do

1633
01:22:52,707 --> 01:22:55,307
Speaker 2: about the All Blacks. We can get into that Slade Griffin,

1634
01:22:55,347 --> 01:22:58,747
Speaker 2: assistant coach after two, and we're also going to focus

1635
01:22:58,787 --> 01:23:00,227
Speaker 2: in on the Black Ferns so through to the semi

1636
01:23:00,307 --> 01:23:02,387
Speaker 2: finals of the Rugby World Cup with a comprehensive win

1637
01:23:02,427 --> 01:23:05,627
Speaker 2: eventually over South Africa. Twenty seventeen Rugby World Cup winner

1638
01:23:05,747 --> 01:23:07,267
Speaker 2: and commentator Christina Sue on.

1639
01:23:07,387 --> 01:23:11,867
Speaker 1: That's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

1640
01:23:12,027 --> 01:23:15,867
Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on Weekends Forward with

1641
01:23:16,107 --> 01:23:20,707
Speaker 1: Jason Vane on your home of Sport Uorks.

1642
01:23:22,027 --> 01:23:24,587
Speaker 2: Welcome in coming up seven past two. I'm Jason Pine.

1643
01:23:24,627 --> 01:23:27,347
Speaker 2: This is Weekend Sport, Anna McDonald's show producer. We're here

1644
01:23:27,427 --> 01:23:30,067
Speaker 2: till three. Then Tim Beverage with the Weekend Collective on

1645
01:23:30,147 --> 01:23:33,107
Speaker 2: a Sunday. Before we get there. The Black Ferns through

1646
01:23:33,227 --> 01:23:35,587
Speaker 2: to the semi finals at the Rugby World Cup in

1647
01:23:35,627 --> 01:23:41,627
Speaker 2: the UK, comprehensive eventually against South Africa, winning forty six

1648
01:23:41,787 --> 01:23:45,387
Speaker 2: seventeen in their quarterfinal overnight there's only ten all at

1649
01:23:45,427 --> 01:23:49,507
Speaker 2: half time, so terrific second half performance from the Black Ferns.

1650
01:23:49,987 --> 01:23:52,347
Speaker 2: How are they shaping up as we head towards the

1651
01:23:52,427 --> 01:23:56,507
Speaker 2: pointy end of this tournament twenty seventeen. Black Ferns Rugby

1652
01:23:56,587 --> 01:23:59,707
Speaker 2: World Cup winner Christina Sue was in commentary last night.

1653
01:24:00,147 --> 01:24:03,027
Speaker 2: She'll join us with a recap and I look ahead

1654
01:24:03,067 --> 01:24:05,827
Speaker 2: perhaps to the next we hope couple of weekends Canada

1655
01:24:05,947 --> 01:24:08,787
Speaker 2: in the seat final that's locked in and then hopefully

1656
01:24:08,827 --> 01:24:13,307
Speaker 2: on towards the final Warriors. To kick us off this hour,

1657
01:24:13,587 --> 01:24:16,387
Speaker 2: Slade Griffin going to join us, assistant coach of the Warriors.

1658
01:24:17,067 --> 01:24:19,467
Speaker 2: The season has come to an end twenty four to

1659
01:24:19,507 --> 01:24:21,307
Speaker 2: eight at the hands of the pen with Panthers last

1660
01:24:21,347 --> 01:24:24,187
Speaker 2: night at go Media six two. At halftime it felt

1661
01:24:24,227 --> 01:24:26,547
Speaker 2: like the Warriors were hanging in there. A couple of

1662
01:24:26,627 --> 01:24:29,867
Speaker 2: late tries forward passes well in there. Not that anybody's

1663
01:24:29,907 --> 01:24:33,347
Speaker 2: blaming the loss on that that it was frustrating to

1664
01:24:33,387 --> 01:24:36,867
Speaker 2: watch it happen, and I'm keen to hear your thoughts, actually,

1665
01:24:36,907 --> 01:24:40,227
Speaker 2: Warriors fans, how do you assess the season from a

1666
01:24:40,307 --> 01:24:42,627
Speaker 2: situation where at the start of the season having lost

1667
01:24:43,187 --> 01:24:47,907
Speaker 2: you know, some really good players, some important experienced players

1668
01:24:48,467 --> 01:24:52,787
Speaker 2: from last season, the rather inauspicious starred in Vegas and

1669
01:24:52,907 --> 01:24:56,507
Speaker 2: then the midseason injuries which ended the seasons of Luke

1670
01:24:56,547 --> 01:25:01,227
Speaker 2: Metcalf and Mitch Barnett half the Warrior is actually overachieved

1671
01:25:02,107 --> 01:25:07,387
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five and crucially what are missing pieces

1672
01:25:07,467 --> 01:25:11,147
Speaker 2: now to turn them into not just the top eight side,

1673
01:25:11,147 --> 01:25:13,467
Speaker 2: which should be the base level every year and has

1674
01:25:13,547 --> 01:25:15,347
Speaker 2: been the case in two of the last three seasons,

1675
01:25:15,587 --> 01:25:18,187
Speaker 2: but to go on and actually make it our year,

1676
01:25:18,587 --> 01:25:21,427
Speaker 2: the eluse of our year. What do you feel like

1677
01:25:21,467 --> 01:25:24,507
Speaker 2: it might be coming next year? Can do? Open the

1678
01:25:24,547 --> 01:25:27,507
Speaker 2: lines to Warriors fans this our We'll keep eyes on

1679
01:25:27,667 --> 01:25:30,987
Speaker 2: live sport as well, including Tasman's challenge for the ran

1680
01:25:31,067 --> 01:25:34,387
Speaker 2: Furley Shield and christ Church a sun soaked christ Church,

1681
01:25:34,427 --> 01:25:37,467
Speaker 2: I can tell you at Apollo Projects Stadium, players is

1682
01:25:37,507 --> 01:25:40,147
Speaker 2: coming onto the field now and the Warriors woman their

1683
01:25:40,227 --> 01:25:42,427
Speaker 2: last game this afternoon has just kicked off, or their

1684
01:25:42,467 --> 01:25:44,827
Speaker 2: last game of the season has just kicked off against

1685
01:25:44,867 --> 01:25:46,867
Speaker 2: the West Tigers over in Campbelltown. We'll keep eyes on

1686
01:25:46,947 --> 01:25:48,667
Speaker 2: that as well. A right one hundred and eighty ten

1687
01:25:48,707 --> 01:25:50,547
Speaker 2: eighty has always as our number ninet two ninety two

1688
01:25:50,547 --> 01:25:53,627
Speaker 2: for your text messages emails to Jason at newstalk SADB

1689
01:25:53,747 --> 01:25:56,467
Speaker 2: dot co dot nzet coming up nine past two as

1690
01:25:56,507 --> 01:25:58,947
Speaker 2: we always do, though to kick off the two o'clock

1691
01:25:58,987 --> 01:26:01,467
Speaker 2: hour on weekend sport. It's time to get you across

1692
01:26:01,787 --> 01:26:03,627
Speaker 2: some of the things that might have escaped your attention.

1693
01:26:04,747 --> 01:26:07,107
Speaker 2: It's been a bit of sport on you can't possibly

1694
01:26:07,187 --> 01:26:09,507
Speaker 2: have kept up with all of it. We don't reckon anyway,

1695
01:26:09,587 --> 01:26:12,027
Speaker 2: so we bring you in case you missed it at

1696
01:26:12,067 --> 01:26:16,827
Speaker 2: this time every Saturday and Sunday afternoon, starting with cycling,

1697
01:26:17,467 --> 01:26:23,267
Speaker 2: glory seems imminent. In Love Welter, the Danish star Jonas Vingegar.

1698
01:26:23,947 --> 01:26:27,107
Speaker 2: Stage twenty goes to the leader of Love Welter.

1699
01:26:27,667 --> 01:26:32,067
Speaker 5: It is Jona's fanger guard, ecstatic at the top.

1700
01:26:31,947 --> 01:26:32,947
Speaker 2: Of Vola del Mondo.

1701
01:26:33,147 --> 01:26:35,827
Speaker 3: Tomorrow he'll ride into Madrid as the winner.

1702
01:26:35,627 --> 01:26:38,307
Speaker 2: Of this race. One stage to go before he claims

1703
01:26:38,347 --> 01:26:42,187
Speaker 2: his first love Welter victory. The Sharks have put an

1704
01:26:42,267 --> 01:26:44,707
Speaker 2: end to the Roosters season in the NRL finals.

1705
01:26:44,827 --> 01:26:48,747
Speaker 4: One tackle left Quidella Russ, one tackle.

1706
01:26:48,467 --> 01:26:50,627
Speaker 6: To heg On Ruder.

1707
01:26:52,227 --> 01:26:56,947
Speaker 7: Toby Rudolph, last guards to tie.

1708
01:26:59,587 --> 01:27:03,147
Speaker 4: My goodness, if you hadn't the last try it was

1709
01:27:03,187 --> 01:27:03,387
Speaker 4: of a.

1710
01:27:03,467 --> 01:27:06,947
Speaker 2: Stage twenty ten. The final score the Sharks on. They'll

1711
01:27:06,987 --> 01:27:12,267
Speaker 2: play the loser of Canberra Brisbane this afternoon to the UK.

1712
01:27:12,467 --> 01:27:16,347
Speaker 2: A struggling start for Ange Pasta Coogloo as manager of

1713
01:27:16,467 --> 01:27:18,747
Speaker 2: Premier League side Nottingham Forest, Race.

1714
01:27:20,307 --> 01:27:26,227
Speaker 33: Rossa the head at Purton and Superman.

1715
01:27:26,547 --> 01:27:28,227
Speaker 2: It's having a pair days.

1716
01:27:29,987 --> 01:27:31,787
Speaker 13: One from nothing distance.

1717
01:27:31,427 --> 01:27:34,867
Speaker 33: One from a neighboring parish at are still going top

1718
01:27:34,907 --> 01:27:35,827
Speaker 33: of the Premier.

1719
01:27:35,547 --> 01:27:39,547
Speaker 2: League table three nil to Arsenal over Nottingham Forest to Rugby.

1720
01:27:39,667 --> 01:27:42,147
Speaker 2: In the other World Cup quarter final last night, Canada

1721
01:27:42,627 --> 01:27:45,387
Speaker 2: running riot over Australia all of.

1722
01:27:45,427 --> 01:27:47,907
Speaker 5: Their matches in this World Cup so far, as Patchan

1723
01:27:48,707 --> 01:27:51,707
Speaker 5: bursts through and puts on a little bit of footwork

1724
01:27:51,787 --> 01:27:55,347
Speaker 5: as well to add a little.

1725
01:27:55,227 --> 01:28:00,907
Speaker 2: Cherry on top in Canada extend the lead and the NPC.

1726
01:28:01,147 --> 01:28:04,827
Speaker 2: A tight win for Otago over Taranaki five out from

1727
01:28:04,907 --> 01:28:07,227
Speaker 2: the goal line, fifteen and left wing touch. Otago have

1728
01:28:07,347 --> 01:28:09,267
Speaker 2: the rolling ball. Now they get a bit away go

1729
01:28:09,507 --> 01:28:12,507
Speaker 2: Coltman at the back judges away Copers Gorse, Here comes Bella.

1730
01:28:12,787 --> 01:28:16,387
Speaker 2: It is over Otago back in front. Twenty eight plays

1731
01:28:16,467 --> 01:28:19,707
Speaker 2: twenty six san Otago retained second place on the table

1732
01:28:19,787 --> 01:28:23,107
Speaker 2: and even tighter onon though in the Battle of the Bays, Nari.

1733
01:28:23,107 --> 01:28:25,987
Speaker 29: Mcclutchy droppy towards the post.

1734
01:28:26,587 --> 01:28:27,107
Speaker 31: It's over.

1735
01:28:28,427 --> 01:28:29,627
Speaker 6: Oh mcclutchy.

1736
01:28:30,547 --> 01:28:32,427
Speaker 2: The clutch drop gold.

1737
01:28:33,027 --> 01:28:37,387
Speaker 25: He's won it for Hawks, bade in golden point x for.

1738
01:28:37,547 --> 01:28:41,947
Speaker 5: Time and they've won it twenty four, twenty.

1739
01:28:41,707 --> 01:28:45,107
Speaker 2: One And finally the Wallamies came oh so close to

1740
01:28:45,227 --> 01:28:49,587
Speaker 2: yet another comeback win over Argentina, but it wasn't to be.

1741
01:28:50,547 --> 01:28:51,867
Speaker 2: It's just over round at a touch.

1742
01:28:52,067 --> 01:28:56,067
Speaker 32: Chorganson under pressure, head Chorganson under all sorts of pressure.

1743
01:28:56,827 --> 01:29:05,507
Speaker 32: That's a pera often term blots. The Wallaby tide back

1744
01:29:05,667 --> 01:29:08,067
Speaker 32: comes up two points shorts.

1745
01:29:09,227 --> 01:29:10,467
Speaker 10: When it's down to the line.

1746
01:29:10,747 --> 01:29:11,787
Speaker 8: You made a call on.

1747
01:29:13,867 --> 01:29:17,667
Speaker 1: Weekend Sports with Jason Hine News Talks eb Shall.

1748
01:29:17,467 --> 01:29:22,027
Speaker 4: We have the final play Tendreth take it in and

1749
01:29:22,187 --> 01:29:27,107
Speaker 4: the Penrith Panthers have turned to Auckland and have proven

1750
01:29:27,187 --> 01:29:29,547
Speaker 4: why they are the back to back to back to

1751
01:29:29,787 --> 01:29:36,187
Speaker 4: back champions. They have won this elimination final. They have

1752
01:29:36,387 --> 01:29:40,987
Speaker 4: beaten the Warriors hair in Auckland twenty four points to eight.

1753
01:29:41,147 --> 01:29:43,427
Speaker 2: Yes, the Warriors beaten by the Penrith Panthers in the

1754
01:29:43,467 --> 01:29:46,347
Speaker 2: first round of the NRL Finals at go Media Stadium

1755
01:29:46,427 --> 01:29:50,507
Speaker 2: last night. They trailed just six two at halftime. Lechahlasima

1756
01:29:50,587 --> 01:29:52,147
Speaker 2: gave them hope with a try on the second half

1757
01:29:52,187 --> 01:29:54,987
Speaker 2: to bring it back to twelve eight, before two late

1758
01:29:55,107 --> 01:29:58,027
Speaker 2: tries to the Panthers sealed the win and sent them

1759
01:29:58,107 --> 01:30:01,107
Speaker 2: through to the next round of the finals. For the Warriors,

1760
01:30:01,227 --> 01:30:05,467
Speaker 2: it is season over. Warriors assistant coach Slade Griffin is

1761
01:30:05,507 --> 01:30:09,067
Speaker 2: with a slate twenty four eight. Doesn't actually feel like

1762
01:30:09,267 --> 01:30:11,707
Speaker 2: it reflects the game that well. Is that how it

1763
01:30:11,747 --> 01:30:12,227
Speaker 2: feels to you?

1764
01:30:13,587 --> 01:30:18,027
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, we felt like, you know, we're in the

1765
01:30:18,147 --> 01:30:18,947
Speaker 8: arm wrestle with them.

1766
01:30:18,987 --> 01:30:22,347
Speaker 22: We felt we were doing a really good job, and

1767
01:30:22,427 --> 01:30:24,587
Speaker 22: then obviously when you're chasing the game a little bit late,

1768
01:30:24,627 --> 01:30:26,347
Speaker 22: we had that drop ball for a try and they

1769
01:30:26,387 --> 01:30:28,587
Speaker 22: had that bounce to the ball, which we still we

1770
01:30:28,707 --> 01:30:31,187
Speaker 22: know there's things we can do better, but at that

1771
01:30:31,307 --> 01:30:33,027
Speaker 22: point in the game, it was a big moment because

1772
01:30:33,107 --> 01:30:34,987
Speaker 22: it was probably our best defensive set of the night,

1773
01:30:35,067 --> 01:30:38,827
Speaker 22: and you know, it was just tough conditions with the wind.

1774
01:30:39,787 --> 01:30:41,747
Speaker 22: The ball probably didn't go as far as as some

1775
01:30:41,827 --> 01:30:44,307
Speaker 22: guys are anticipating. They got the balance, and to their credit,

1776
01:30:44,387 --> 01:30:48,307
Speaker 22: they icd their moments. So yeah, it's frustrating. I mean,

1777
01:30:49,267 --> 01:30:52,387
Speaker 22: you know, probably if you come off the field knowing

1778
01:30:52,427 --> 01:30:54,387
Speaker 22: you couldn't keep up with them, you'd be a bit

1779
01:30:54,467 --> 01:30:57,867
Speaker 22: more disappointed. But knowing that we can arm wrestle with

1780
01:30:57,947 --> 01:30:59,987
Speaker 22: a team like Penrith, like a lot of teams can't.

1781
01:31:00,107 --> 01:31:02,467
Speaker 22: So you know, we fit enough and we could handle

1782
01:31:02,547 --> 01:31:03,187
Speaker 22: their power game.

1783
01:31:03,987 --> 01:31:07,347
Speaker 2: But it was just moments and that's exactly it. And

1784
01:31:07,627 --> 01:31:10,227
Speaker 2: the moment that you've alluded to there the sixty fifth minute,

1785
01:31:10,267 --> 01:31:11,987
Speaker 2: twelve eight to them. You kick to the corner. Paul

1786
01:31:11,987 --> 01:31:14,627
Speaker 2: Animalty has a freak player to keep it in. You

1787
01:31:14,787 --> 01:31:17,227
Speaker 2: pin them down that end. Nathan Clary kicks from his

1788
01:31:17,267 --> 01:31:19,867
Speaker 2: own twenty. It's a freakish bounce. They pick it up

1789
01:31:19,907 --> 01:31:22,147
Speaker 2: for a forward pass. Score one. It's eighteen eight. Is

1790
01:31:22,227 --> 01:31:23,027
Speaker 2: that the turning point?

1791
01:31:24,107 --> 01:31:24,187
Speaker 8: Oh?

1792
01:31:24,547 --> 01:31:26,787
Speaker 22: Yeah, Like the in the context of the game is

1793
01:31:26,907 --> 01:31:29,107
Speaker 22: a big playing look. They come up some huge players

1794
01:31:29,147 --> 01:31:31,827
Speaker 22: like Clary's kicking game. He got a lot of repeats there.

1795
01:31:31,987 --> 01:31:34,067
Speaker 22: Dylan Edwards keep the ball in on a forty twenty

1796
01:31:34,107 --> 01:31:38,227
Speaker 22: a tent he gets out of his n goal. Yeah,

1797
01:31:38,427 --> 01:31:41,307
Speaker 22: the crowd was really getting behind us at that period though,

1798
01:31:41,307 --> 01:31:43,307
Speaker 22: it was like the roof would have come off the place.

1799
01:31:43,347 --> 01:31:45,547
Speaker 22: It was just, you know, the bummer We didn't get

1800
01:31:45,587 --> 01:31:48,947
Speaker 22: that ball back because yeah, I just like the crowd

1801
01:31:48,987 --> 01:31:50,707
Speaker 22: would give us that ford X man on the field

1802
01:31:50,747 --> 01:31:51,187
Speaker 22: at that point.

1803
01:31:51,547 --> 01:31:53,627
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't matter now, but that passes forward.

1804
01:31:54,027 --> 01:31:54,787
Speaker 2: How gutting is that?

1805
01:31:56,147 --> 01:31:56,307
Speaker 32: Ah?

1806
01:31:56,787 --> 01:31:59,507
Speaker 22: Yeah, look, I know it's hard on the rest, Like

1807
01:31:59,627 --> 01:32:02,347
Speaker 22: we'd our position kind of feels like we've got a

1808
01:32:02,387 --> 01:32:04,867
Speaker 22: couple of ones. But they could probably say the same.

1809
01:32:04,947 --> 01:32:07,307
Speaker 13: It's just, yeah, it's a tough one.

1810
01:32:07,987 --> 01:32:10,027
Speaker 2: Why don't you reckon? You could capitalize on your first

1811
01:32:10,107 --> 01:32:11,867
Speaker 2: half show and with more points.

1812
01:32:15,187 --> 01:32:15,747
Speaker 34: Like we got it.

1813
01:32:15,787 --> 01:32:18,907
Speaker 22: We got a lot of chunk early and fish, so

1814
01:32:19,267 --> 01:32:22,147
Speaker 22: they didn't have much fatigue into them, so they turned

1815
01:32:22,227 --> 01:32:24,907
Speaker 22: up at that period as well. It was raining, so

1816
01:32:24,987 --> 01:32:27,107
Speaker 22: it's probably a bit harder to come away with, you know,

1817
01:32:27,227 --> 01:32:29,867
Speaker 22: some really clean catch pass and we're still building the game.

1818
01:32:31,427 --> 01:32:34,147
Speaker 22: But yeah, like they're a really good defensive team, especially

1819
01:32:34,187 --> 01:32:37,387
Speaker 22: down on their try line. So it probably was going

1820
01:32:37,467 --> 01:32:39,507
Speaker 22: to be a really low scoring game. Like two tries

1821
01:32:39,587 --> 01:32:41,387
Speaker 22: might have been enough to win it. Two or three tries,

1822
01:32:41,427 --> 01:32:44,267
Speaker 22: and unfortunately, like you said, we let the score blow

1823
01:32:44,307 --> 01:32:47,027
Speaker 22: out because we had, you know, two tries against the

1824
01:32:47,107 --> 01:32:50,587
Speaker 22: runner play. But and those conditions, there's probably always going

1825
01:32:50,667 --> 01:32:51,587
Speaker 22: to be a low scoring game.

1826
01:32:52,107 --> 01:32:55,947
Speaker 2: Andrew Webster talked afterwards about the missing piece. It's probably

1827
01:32:55,987 --> 01:32:58,187
Speaker 2: a little bit loosive and hard to define. That will

1828
01:32:58,227 --> 01:33:00,587
Speaker 2: take it to the next level. What do you reckon

1829
01:33:00,667 --> 01:33:01,907
Speaker 2: that that piece is.

1830
01:33:03,707 --> 01:33:09,187
Speaker 22: It just probably consistency or just detail. Some games of justiness,

1831
01:33:09,427 --> 01:33:13,307
Speaker 22: like whether it's execution and attack or defense. Just nailing

1832
01:33:13,347 --> 01:33:16,547
Speaker 22: our role and getting the detail right. Sometimes those real

1833
01:33:16,667 --> 01:33:20,947
Speaker 22: small things create the moments we're talking about. Like I said,

1834
01:33:20,987 --> 01:33:22,747
Speaker 22: even on that kick, they got the balance, but we

1835
01:33:22,907 --> 01:33:25,867
Speaker 22: still know that befo, we got guys who moving towards

1836
01:33:25,907 --> 01:33:27,387
Speaker 22: the ball, or we make a tackle here or there,

1837
01:33:27,467 --> 01:33:30,307
Speaker 22: we can still stop it. So there's always little things

1838
01:33:30,347 --> 01:33:32,587
Speaker 22: that you can control. So yeah, we're just we're really

1839
01:33:32,667 --> 01:33:35,347
Speaker 22: hunting that part because we feel like the boys have

1840
01:33:35,427 --> 01:33:38,107
Speaker 22: played with for a lot of effort, and they've played

1841
01:33:38,147 --> 01:33:41,427
Speaker 22: tough for each other, and they trained really hard all year,

1842
01:33:41,987 --> 01:33:44,027
Speaker 22: had a really tough preseason, which a lot of people

1843
01:33:44,107 --> 01:33:46,947
Speaker 22: don't see. And that's why, you know, we felt we

1844
01:33:47,027 --> 01:33:49,507
Speaker 22: built a game that could hold up in finals, games

1845
01:33:50,467 --> 01:33:52,427
Speaker 22: like we could arm wrestle with a team like Penriff.

1846
01:33:52,507 --> 01:33:57,587
Speaker 22: And Yeah, unfortunately, just those little details turn into big moments.

1847
01:33:58,307 --> 01:34:01,507
Speaker 2: Leca Hellasima into the centers last night, are lake change

1848
01:34:01,547 --> 01:34:03,707
Speaker 2: there with Kirk capable going back to the second row

1849
01:34:04,107 --> 01:34:06,507
Speaker 2: another try for Leka. I think that has some as

1850
01:34:06,507 --> 01:34:10,147
Speaker 2: your leading triscorer of the season. He goes, all right,

1851
01:34:10,227 --> 01:34:11,467
Speaker 2: doesn't he like a Alisina?

1852
01:34:12,587 --> 01:34:12,867
Speaker 15: Wow?

1853
01:34:13,347 --> 01:34:17,867
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's what. Yeah, who knows that?

1854
01:34:18,427 --> 01:34:20,507
Speaker 22: C Is that not awesome?

1855
01:34:20,547 --> 01:34:20,667
Speaker 7: Here?

1856
01:34:20,707 --> 01:34:24,467
Speaker 22: I think he's played nearly every game for how far

1857
01:34:24,627 --> 01:34:28,147
Speaker 22: he's come within the year and he's still only nineteen. Like, yeah,

1858
01:34:28,187 --> 01:34:31,507
Speaker 22: it's really exciting. Another good preseason to build on what

1859
01:34:31,547 --> 01:34:33,547
Speaker 22: he's done already this year, it is really exciting.

1860
01:34:34,387 --> 01:34:37,027
Speaker 2: You lost Adam Vanua, Blake Tahu how As, Shawn Johnson,

1861
01:34:37,107 --> 01:34:39,587
Speaker 2: and Dylan Walker from last season, then Mitch Barnett and

1862
01:34:39,667 --> 01:34:42,707
Speaker 2: Luke Metcalf At the midway point of this season, many

1863
01:34:42,707 --> 01:34:45,747
Speaker 2: people thought you'd missed the eight and yet you hosted

1864
01:34:45,787 --> 01:34:49,067
Speaker 2: a finals match. Can you take some degree of satisfaction

1865
01:34:49,307 --> 01:34:49,587
Speaker 2: from that?

1866
01:34:50,827 --> 01:34:55,067
Speaker 22: Yeah, Oh look, it was probably early on, like that

1867
01:34:55,227 --> 01:34:58,027
Speaker 22: Vegas game. We probably you know, we're a new team

1868
01:34:58,107 --> 01:35:00,827
Speaker 22: and we had a good lesson over there with the

1869
01:35:00,947 --> 01:35:04,907
Speaker 22: new place coming in. After you take year seven and

1870
01:35:05,027 --> 01:35:07,227
Speaker 22: your captain out, any team, I think it will take

1871
01:35:07,227 --> 01:35:09,747
Speaker 22: thet lolder to get going and build those combinations again,

1872
01:35:09,747 --> 01:35:12,227
Speaker 22: because you dismiss all those reps that the Harves get

1873
01:35:12,307 --> 01:35:15,867
Speaker 22: in the preseason. In the combination they build just know

1874
01:35:15,947 --> 01:35:18,947
Speaker 22: one kind of what each other's thinking. But there's never

1875
01:35:18,987 --> 01:35:19,907
Speaker 22: an excuse for us.

1876
01:35:19,947 --> 01:35:20,507
Speaker 8: That we feel.

1877
01:35:21,307 --> 01:35:27,587
Speaker 22: Tanner did a really good job and all season like

1878
01:35:27,707 --> 01:35:29,987
Speaker 22: him and Tom from the other team giving us really

1879
01:35:29,987 --> 01:35:32,827
Speaker 22: good practice. So it's been great competition in that spot

1880
01:35:33,747 --> 01:35:35,907
Speaker 22: and we've just always had that next man up mentality.

1881
01:35:36,067 --> 01:35:39,787
Speaker 22: But yeah, obviously Mitch Barnett's leadership and just to the

1882
01:35:39,827 --> 01:35:41,947
Speaker 22: aggression through the middle, what he kind of does for

1883
01:35:42,027 --> 01:35:44,947
Speaker 22: the other younger Fords is always hard to replace.

1884
01:35:45,307 --> 01:35:47,187
Speaker 2: All Right. So Penrith go on to play the Bulldogs

1885
01:35:47,227 --> 01:35:49,747
Speaker 2: next week now in an elimination semi final. This isn't

1886
01:35:50,067 --> 01:35:51,947
Speaker 2: something they're used to having to come from so far

1887
01:35:52,027 --> 01:35:54,147
Speaker 2: down the table, but you reckon they could win it

1888
01:35:54,227 --> 01:35:57,627
Speaker 2: from seventh place again, Yeah, why not.

1889
01:35:59,067 --> 01:36:03,707
Speaker 22: I've done it four times. Our big game players, origin players,

1890
01:36:04,627 --> 01:36:07,147
Speaker 22: I know they love a challenge, so already framed it

1891
01:36:07,227 --> 01:36:13,027
Speaker 22: that way never before, so that's a trademark I think. Look, yeah,

1892
01:36:13,107 --> 01:36:15,827
Speaker 22: obviously clearly Edwards like they just got such a potent

1893
01:36:15,907 --> 01:36:18,907
Speaker 22: team and we were really for the moment. So I

1894
01:36:18,987 --> 01:36:20,587
Speaker 22: think it's going to be a really good game between

1895
01:36:20,627 --> 01:36:23,067
Speaker 22: them and the Bulldogs. It's a great top eight I

1896
01:36:23,107 --> 01:36:27,787
Speaker 22: think it's Yeah, every team's got their number in the head.

1897
01:36:28,347 --> 01:36:31,387
Speaker 2: Slade, appreciate your accessibility and honesty across the season. It's

1898
01:36:31,427 --> 01:36:33,627
Speaker 2: been great to get the chance to regularly chat with

1899
01:36:33,707 --> 01:36:34,307
Speaker 2: you on the radio.

1900
01:36:34,387 --> 01:36:34,587
Speaker 8: Mate.

1901
01:36:35,027 --> 01:36:37,627
Speaker 2: Enjoy the off season. If that's the writer, write phrase

1902
01:36:37,747 --> 01:36:40,147
Speaker 2: useless for fuel for twenty twenty six and look forward

1903
01:36:40,187 --> 01:36:41,947
Speaker 2: to catching up again in the new year.

1904
01:36:42,907 --> 01:36:45,107
Speaker 22: Yeah, no, I think to the support, Yeah, it's been awesome.

1905
01:36:45,227 --> 01:36:46,907
Speaker 2: No, thank you for joining us, Slate, Slake Griffin the

1906
01:36:46,987 --> 01:36:50,987
Speaker 2: assistant coach of the Warriors or one of the assistant coaches.

1907
01:36:51,747 --> 01:36:55,267
Speaker 2: They can now start thinking about next season. Week one

1908
01:36:55,307 --> 01:36:57,187
Speaker 2: of the finals is as far as I'll go. Twenty

1909
01:36:57,347 --> 01:37:00,387
Speaker 2: four to eight, the margin of defeat last night to

1910
01:37:00,387 --> 01:37:03,707
Speaker 2: the Penrith Panthers. Warriors fans, let's react to the season.

1911
01:37:03,867 --> 01:37:06,267
Speaker 2: You might need a little bit more time to totally

1912
01:37:06,507 --> 01:37:09,267
Speaker 2: digest what has happened over the last twenty five to

1913
01:37:09,347 --> 01:37:13,667
Speaker 2: twenty six weeks or so, but what's your initial gut reaction? Oh,

1914
01:37:13,747 --> 01:37:17,347
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. How does it feel

1915
01:37:17,427 --> 01:37:20,707
Speaker 2: now that it's come to an end. Given the players

1916
01:37:20,747 --> 01:37:25,187
Speaker 2: who left or retired after last season, and I mentioned

1917
01:37:25,227 --> 01:37:28,787
Speaker 2: them there to Slade, adding Vanua, Blake Tahoe Hora, Shawn Johnson,

1918
01:37:28,827 --> 01:37:32,387
Speaker 2: Dil Walker, and then the injuries to Mitch Barnett and

1919
01:37:32,507 --> 01:37:35,827
Speaker 2: Luke Metcalf which ended their seasons about midway through, plus

1920
01:37:35,947 --> 01:37:41,107
Speaker 2: other players like Rock o'berry and Ali Leaatawa who had

1921
01:37:41,187 --> 01:37:46,547
Speaker 2: severely limited involvement because of their injuries. Is this actually

1922
01:37:46,707 --> 01:37:55,827
Speaker 2: over achievement from the Warriors? Thirteenth last season? That Vegas

1923
01:37:55,907 --> 01:37:58,227
Speaker 2: game had us all wondering whether we were in for

1924
01:37:58,307 --> 01:38:02,067
Speaker 2: the same again this season. I don't think the Warriors

1925
01:38:02,067 --> 01:38:04,547
Speaker 2: will be accepting invitation to go back to Vegas anytime soon.

1926
01:38:04,747 --> 01:38:06,587
Speaker 2: Thirty points to eight they lost to the Raider and

1927
01:38:07,067 --> 01:38:08,507
Speaker 2: Cam George is on the radio with me. Was that

1928
01:38:08,587 --> 01:38:10,587
Speaker 2: last week week before? We said, look after that game,

1929
01:38:10,907 --> 01:38:12,587
Speaker 2: everybody said we should be kicked out of the COB.

1930
01:38:12,987 --> 01:38:15,907
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was actually suggesting that, but it

1931
01:38:16,027 --> 01:38:18,867
Speaker 2: looked as though it might be a repeat of twenty

1932
01:38:18,987 --> 01:38:23,787
Speaker 2: twenty four. But instead they got up to fourth in

1933
01:38:23,867 --> 01:38:28,027
Speaker 2: about week five or six and stayed there till right

1934
01:38:28,147 --> 01:38:32,707
Speaker 2: near the end. Right near the end. The missing piece

1935
01:38:32,827 --> 01:38:35,907
Speaker 2: that Andrew Webster talks about, he talked about it in

1936
01:38:36,267 --> 01:38:39,107
Speaker 2: his press conference last night. What is that is it

1937
01:38:39,187 --> 01:38:42,307
Speaker 2: a certain player in a certain position, or is it,

1938
01:38:42,387 --> 01:38:47,547
Speaker 2: as Slade said, their consistency, which every team in every

1939
01:38:47,667 --> 01:38:50,347
Speaker 2: sport searches for. Look, we all know that on their

1940
01:38:50,427 --> 01:38:53,667
Speaker 2: night the Warriors can beat anyone, but the fact remains

1941
01:38:53,707 --> 01:38:57,467
Speaker 2: they lost their last two regular season games, which cost

1942
01:38:57,547 --> 01:38:59,907
Speaker 2: them a top four spot. Eventually in that extra life

1943
01:38:59,947 --> 01:39:02,867
Speaker 2: which can be so valuable. So how should we regard

1944
01:39:03,347 --> 01:39:05,707
Speaker 2: the Warriors season of twenty twenty five. Let's kick it

1945
01:39:05,747 --> 01:39:09,387
Speaker 2: around now that's just finished in any way, shape or

1946
01:39:09,467 --> 01:39:14,107
Speaker 2: form that you would like. Hello, Greg, Hey, gay, funny good,

1947
01:39:14,147 --> 01:39:14,827
Speaker 2: thank you, great good.

1948
01:39:17,107 --> 01:39:20,147
Speaker 13: I think we can look at the season as being

1949
01:39:21,067 --> 01:39:27,227
Speaker 13: something that promised so much and probably has just you know,

1950
01:39:27,427 --> 01:39:32,867
Speaker 13: come up fallen a bit short. Obviously as a fan,

1951
01:39:33,587 --> 01:39:39,147
Speaker 13: and the expectation of the team to get get into

1952
01:39:39,267 --> 01:39:41,787
Speaker 13: fourth and stay here for such a long period of time,

1953
01:39:43,227 --> 01:39:46,187
Speaker 13: you would have thought that, you know, we can, we

1954
01:39:46,307 --> 01:39:50,947
Speaker 13: can stick it in here, you know, for a longer period,

1955
01:39:51,387 --> 01:39:54,147
Speaker 13: longer period than what we actually did. But I think

1956
01:39:54,267 --> 01:39:59,707
Speaker 13: consistency is one of the missing pieces, because sometimes we

1957
01:39:59,987 --> 01:40:04,987
Speaker 13: seem to go, you know, we go go missing relay,

1958
01:40:06,867 --> 01:40:10,147
Speaker 13: we're just really really bad in the first half, and

1959
01:40:10,147 --> 01:40:11,867
Speaker 13: then we come back in the second half and we

1960
01:40:12,787 --> 01:40:18,107
Speaker 13: almost flick a switch and you know where did this

1961
01:40:18,227 --> 01:40:20,827
Speaker 13: team come from? That's wasn't the team that we had

1962
01:40:20,867 --> 01:40:24,307
Speaker 13: in the first half. But they need to be more

1963
01:40:24,387 --> 01:40:31,387
Speaker 13: consistent across the whole the whole game. Yeah, and I

1964
01:40:31,467 --> 01:40:37,547
Speaker 13: think it we talk about players like lecka hellathema out.

1965
01:40:38,307 --> 01:40:41,467
Speaker 13: The proof will be in the putting the second year,

1966
01:40:41,507 --> 01:40:44,387
Speaker 13: because it's always the first year that they play well.

1967
01:40:44,947 --> 01:40:48,387
Speaker 13: People don't know how they play. Then the second year

1968
01:40:48,747 --> 01:40:52,187
Speaker 13: everybody cottons onto what he's been doing and that will

1969
01:40:52,227 --> 01:40:56,147
Speaker 13: be the hardest thing for him as a player. I

1970
01:40:56,227 --> 01:40:59,787
Speaker 13: think the loss of players like Mitch Bunnett was a

1971
01:41:00,307 --> 01:41:04,387
Speaker 13: really big impact for retirement of Tohu. You know, nobody

1972
01:41:04,507 --> 01:41:06,307
Speaker 13: was expecting that. It came from out of the blue.

1973
01:41:06,347 --> 01:41:11,747
Speaker 13: Who Luke Metcalfe, who I'm not really a paan of,

1974
01:41:12,027 --> 01:41:14,747
Speaker 13: but you know, he to play some good games. I

1975
01:41:14,827 --> 01:41:18,027
Speaker 13: think Canna Boyd's stepped up when he was caught on.

1976
01:41:18,067 --> 01:41:20,507
Speaker 13: I think he had one good game the first game up.

1977
01:41:20,547 --> 01:41:23,267
Speaker 13: The second one wasn't so good, but from there on

1978
01:41:23,387 --> 01:41:28,987
Speaker 13: and he he seemed to have the goods. I think

1979
01:41:29,027 --> 01:41:32,267
Speaker 13: we need another winger. I think Dallansad's day, I think

1980
01:41:32,307 --> 01:41:37,267
Speaker 13: we need another big, strong winger. But yeah, overall, I

1981
01:41:37,387 --> 01:41:39,347
Speaker 13: think you would give them a pass mark.

1982
01:41:42,067 --> 01:41:45,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I think, Yeah, I think he've

1983
01:41:45,787 --> 01:41:48,867
Speaker 2: made some good points there, Gregor. Yeah, I thought Luke Metcalf. Look,

1984
01:41:48,907 --> 01:41:52,027
Speaker 2: he was he was leading the dally M voting, wasn't

1985
01:41:52,067 --> 01:41:55,107
Speaker 2: he when they when they you know, shut it off

1986
01:41:55,147 --> 01:41:57,147
Speaker 2: from from us being able to see it. They keep

1987
01:41:57,227 --> 01:41:59,627
Speaker 2: up public until I can't remember which round it is.

1988
01:41:59,707 --> 01:42:01,907
Speaker 2: But when they did cut it off from us seeing it,

1989
01:42:02,267 --> 01:42:04,587
Speaker 2: he was leading. He was leading the delim and and

1990
01:42:05,027 --> 01:42:07,147
Speaker 2: you're right, he wasn't a universe choice to play there.

1991
01:42:07,147 --> 01:42:08,507
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people thought, to mighty Martin

1992
01:42:08,587 --> 01:42:12,147
Speaker 2: might get the seven jumper. But yeah, I think Luke

1993
01:42:12,227 --> 01:42:16,107
Speaker 2: Metcalf's season ending injury had a big impact Mitch Barnett

1994
01:42:16,107 --> 01:42:19,307
Speaker 2: as well, when you lose your co captain. I also

1995
01:42:19,467 --> 01:42:24,907
Speaker 2: think Greg that in the census, you know, the probably

1996
01:42:24,987 --> 01:42:29,347
Speaker 2: the first choice center pairing is probably when everybody's fit.

1997
01:42:29,467 --> 01:42:34,387
Speaker 2: Rock o'berry and Ali Le'yatawa, and they played together so infrequently. Yeah,

1998
01:42:34,587 --> 01:42:37,547
Speaker 2: they played together so infrequently. Leatawi and how many games

1999
01:42:37,547 --> 01:42:38,947
Speaker 2: did he play this season? Be lucky if it was

2000
01:42:39,267 --> 01:42:42,467
Speaker 2: seven or eight games this season? And Bury the same

2001
01:42:42,507 --> 01:42:44,067
Speaker 2: and even when he came back, he got that injury,

2002
01:42:44,107 --> 01:42:46,547
Speaker 2: which I mean must be he must be cursed. So

2003
01:42:47,387 --> 01:42:50,387
Speaker 2: while injuries are not an excuse because all teams have

2004
01:42:50,507 --> 01:42:53,547
Speaker 2: to face them, they do give you some basis for explanation.

2005
01:42:53,747 --> 01:42:56,467
Speaker 2: And look, if they can keep everybody fit next year,

2006
01:42:56,587 --> 01:42:59,107
Speaker 2: and that's a great unknown, then maybe this is the

2007
01:42:59,147 --> 01:43:01,147
Speaker 2: playing group that can take that extra step and be

2008
01:43:01,267 --> 01:43:04,787
Speaker 2: the missing piece and find that consistency. But yeah, I

2009
01:43:04,827 --> 01:43:07,107
Speaker 2: guess we're wit and see. I've enjoyed talking Warriors with

2010
01:43:07,187 --> 01:43:09,747
Speaker 2: you this year, Greg, look forward to doing it doing

2011
01:43:09,787 --> 01:43:13,227
Speaker 2: it again in twenty twenty six. Thanks for you call, Robbie.

2012
01:43:12,987 --> 01:43:15,267
Speaker 13: High Wait, how are you going?

2013
01:43:16,027 --> 01:43:16,187
Speaker 11: Robi?

2014
01:43:16,187 --> 01:43:16,747
Speaker 13: Disappointed?

2015
01:43:16,787 --> 01:43:20,267
Speaker 9: Was that that interview of the coach. It's still easy

2016
01:43:20,347 --> 01:43:20,867
Speaker 9: to to.

2017
01:43:22,907 --> 01:43:24,587
Speaker 29: Say, you know, things acceptable this abit.

2018
01:43:24,627 --> 01:43:25,427
Speaker 13: I'd be gutted.

2019
01:43:26,267 --> 01:43:29,267
Speaker 29: If the Warriors at halfway were second to bottom and

2020
01:43:29,427 --> 01:43:31,507
Speaker 29: came up to first position would be great, But you know,

2021
01:43:31,547 --> 01:43:33,827
Speaker 29: the Warriors for the first half of the year were

2022
01:43:33,907 --> 01:43:36,987
Speaker 29: first and second. If you take the Warriors second half

2023
01:43:37,027 --> 01:43:38,387
Speaker 29: of the year, I think they would have finished second

2024
01:43:38,387 --> 01:43:41,547
Speaker 29: to bottom with all the losses, so they really dropped off.

2025
01:43:41,587 --> 01:43:42,387
Speaker 16: And as a coach, I.

2026
01:43:42,387 --> 01:43:44,187
Speaker 29: Wouldn't get up there and be saying, oh, this is good,

2027
01:43:44,227 --> 01:43:46,707
Speaker 29: and I'd be gutted. I'd be coming up there and say, man,

2028
01:43:46,787 --> 01:43:48,347
Speaker 29: we're absolutely he didn't sound gut it.

2029
01:43:49,947 --> 01:43:53,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he was Robbie. I think maybe

2030
01:43:53,027 --> 01:43:54,907
Speaker 2: it was me who was probably painting it a more

2031
01:43:54,947 --> 01:43:57,787
Speaker 2: in a more positive light than Slade Griffin was. Yeah.

2032
01:43:57,827 --> 01:44:00,027
Speaker 2: I think you could tell by the coach's box and

2033
01:44:00,067 --> 01:44:02,427
Speaker 2: that last night that you know that they were. Of

2034
01:44:02,507 --> 01:44:04,947
Speaker 2: course they're disappointed. You know, home final. You should win

2035
01:44:04,987 --> 01:44:05,747
Speaker 2: a home final, you know.

2036
01:44:06,427 --> 01:44:14,107
Speaker 29: Yeah, actually in finding stop it, I know what.

2037
01:44:14,107 --> 01:44:17,067
Speaker 2: You're saying, and you're right, look and and you do

2038
01:44:17,227 --> 01:44:20,067
Speaker 2: actually land on a good point. And that the back

2039
01:44:20,147 --> 01:44:21,667
Speaker 2: end of the season. I look at those losses that

2040
01:44:21,747 --> 01:44:24,147
Speaker 2: they suffered, what they lost to the Titans at home,

2041
01:44:24,667 --> 01:44:26,507
Speaker 2: then they lost to the Dolphins at home, that was

2042
01:44:26,627 --> 01:44:28,707
Speaker 2: really hard to take. And then they kind of got

2043
01:44:28,747 --> 01:44:30,187
Speaker 2: back on the horse and they beat the Dragons that

2044
01:44:30,307 --> 01:44:31,987
Speaker 2: was a tight one. Then they went and beat the Titans,

2045
01:44:32,427 --> 01:44:34,507
Speaker 2: but then they lost the Eels at home. Should have

2046
01:44:34,547 --> 01:44:36,707
Speaker 2: won that game, and just it was the whole all

2047
01:44:36,747 --> 01:44:38,827
Speaker 2: accommodation of these things that that tip them out of

2048
01:44:38,867 --> 01:44:40,827
Speaker 2: the top four. And as we know, it's hard to

2049
01:44:40,867 --> 01:44:42,907
Speaker 2: win from outside there, even if you do have a

2050
01:44:42,947 --> 01:44:45,747
Speaker 2: home final. But Penrith came and did what Penrith do

2051
01:44:46,867 --> 01:44:47,307
Speaker 2: and I.

2052
01:44:47,347 --> 01:44:49,067
Speaker 29: Think Penrith for go on and they could very well

2053
01:44:49,107 --> 01:44:52,147
Speaker 29: win it. They could very well make the final at least.

2054
01:44:52,187 --> 01:44:56,907
Speaker 29: But you know, it's disappointing, you know, our Yeah, I'd

2055
01:44:56,987 --> 01:44:59,147
Speaker 29: rather the boys started a bit slower and finish stronger.

2056
01:44:59,227 --> 01:45:02,387
Speaker 29: But you know, was it okay disappointing again?

2057
01:45:02,507 --> 01:45:02,707
Speaker 8: Is it it?

2058
01:45:02,787 --> 01:45:02,987
Speaker 13: Really?

2059
01:45:03,027 --> 01:45:03,507
Speaker 29: Bottom line?

2060
01:45:03,587 --> 01:45:04,347
Speaker 25: Is it's disappointed?

2061
01:45:04,867 --> 01:45:06,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on your Robbie. Hey, thanks for co mate.

2062
01:45:07,027 --> 01:45:09,427
Speaker 2: Let's chat about the Warriors again next year. You got

2063
01:45:09,467 --> 01:45:13,667
Speaker 2: the number, Hey, Paul, what's your overall summer summary? You know,

2064
01:45:13,827 --> 01:45:15,947
Speaker 2: just having given it just one overnight test.

2065
01:45:17,107 --> 01:45:19,907
Speaker 35: Yeah, a finny, I'll probably give him a seven and

2066
01:45:19,987 --> 01:45:20,947
Speaker 35: a half out of ten.

2067
01:45:22,467 --> 01:45:23,187
Speaker 8: For the year.

2068
01:45:23,227 --> 01:45:26,267
Speaker 35: I mean, with some regards to the last guy's comments,

2069
01:45:26,347 --> 01:45:30,987
Speaker 35: you know, you know, a team that has can keep

2070
01:45:31,067 --> 01:45:33,547
Speaker 35: their their best site on the park for the season

2071
01:45:33,627 --> 01:45:35,547
Speaker 35: most of the season. Other teams that are going to

2072
01:45:35,867 --> 01:45:37,347
Speaker 35: kind of wreck the rewards at the end, you know,

2073
01:45:37,427 --> 01:45:40,667
Speaker 35: and unfortunately we all know, you know, the injuries we've

2074
01:45:40,667 --> 01:45:42,747
Speaker 35: had and so forth, so you know, we haven't had

2075
01:45:42,787 --> 01:45:45,267
Speaker 35: our best halves pairing, we haven't had our best centers.

2076
01:45:45,907 --> 01:45:48,667
Speaker 35: But in saying that, Kurk Capel really proved me wrong

2077
01:45:48,747 --> 01:45:50,907
Speaker 35: last night. I just thought he was an absolute beast

2078
01:45:50,987 --> 01:45:51,427
Speaker 35: last night.

2079
01:45:51,627 --> 01:45:52,587
Speaker 2: He was everywhere he.

2080
01:45:52,707 --> 01:45:55,907
Speaker 35: Was playing out in the centers. So but it's just

2081
01:45:55,947 --> 01:45:57,347
Speaker 35: one of those ones, mate. You know, if I had

2082
01:45:57,387 --> 01:45:59,027
Speaker 35: to said to you Pineyer know at the start of

2083
01:45:59,067 --> 01:46:01,587
Speaker 35: the season after last year finishing third length, you know

2084
01:46:01,627 --> 01:46:04,587
Speaker 35: we're going to lose Tahou, Adam Fanua, Black, Shawn Johnson,

2085
01:46:04,787 --> 01:46:07,947
Speaker 35: Mitch Barnett and Meatcuff you know where will be finished.

2086
01:46:08,347 --> 01:46:11,667
Speaker 35: It wouldn't be that positive. But you know, there are

2087
01:46:11,667 --> 01:46:13,107
Speaker 35: a lot of positives to come out, you know, with

2088
01:46:13,187 --> 01:46:15,227
Speaker 35: the young guys coming through the New South World Cup

2089
01:46:15,267 --> 01:46:17,627
Speaker 35: doing so well, so a lot of positives.

2090
01:46:17,667 --> 01:46:19,547
Speaker 2: But there were some selection.

2091
01:46:20,747 --> 01:46:23,307
Speaker 35: Sort of issues in the last few weeks that I

2092
01:46:23,427 --> 01:46:26,347
Speaker 35: sort of questioned with Wey. But I think the club

2093
01:46:26,387 --> 01:46:28,467
Speaker 35: can be proud, mate for the season, and as long

2094
01:46:28,507 --> 01:46:30,347
Speaker 35: as we building up next year, mate, will be okay.

2095
01:46:30,747 --> 01:46:32,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, isn't it? If it could be used

2096
01:46:32,347 --> 01:46:34,587
Speaker 2: as a building block, because because what was it? Twenty

2097
01:46:34,707 --> 01:46:37,907
Speaker 2: twenty three was great, wasn't it. Weby's first year in

2098
01:46:38,067 --> 01:46:42,427
Speaker 2: charge and then last year was disappointing, really disappointing by comparison. Yep.

2099
01:46:42,507 --> 01:46:44,347
Speaker 2: So we can't yep, I mean we can, but we

2100
01:46:44,427 --> 01:46:46,187
Speaker 2: can't have this up and down, up and up and

2101
01:46:46,227 --> 01:46:48,667
Speaker 2: now there's no good for our hearts or our stress level.

2102
01:46:48,827 --> 01:46:50,787
Speaker 2: So it'd be nice to think though, as you say

2103
01:46:50,867 --> 01:46:53,107
Speaker 2: that if they can build on this, that new Southwest

2104
01:46:53,147 --> 01:46:55,227
Speaker 2: cap side looks it looks like it's got some guns

2105
01:46:55,267 --> 01:46:57,027
Speaker 2: and it clearly we've got a bit of development coming,

2106
01:46:57,667 --> 01:47:00,107
Speaker 2: you know, as you say, players stay for it hopefully,

2107
01:47:00,787 --> 01:47:04,427
Speaker 2: and yeah, maybe the push on will come as a result.

2108
01:47:04,507 --> 01:47:06,547
Speaker 2: I think I think seven and a half as already

2109
01:47:06,587 --> 01:47:09,667
Speaker 2: accurate schore mate, I find myself agreeing wholeheartily with that.

2110
01:47:10,827 --> 01:47:11,027
Speaker 9: Yep.

2111
01:47:11,107 --> 01:47:11,267
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2112
01:47:11,307 --> 01:47:13,627
Speaker 35: And if you look at the school lines, we had

2113
01:47:13,707 --> 01:47:16,747
Speaker 35: so many to two point losses, four point losses, you

2114
01:47:16,867 --> 01:47:18,707
Speaker 35: could say we should have put them away, but you

2115
01:47:18,787 --> 01:47:20,987
Speaker 35: know we Hammo, we were still in the fight. So

2116
01:47:21,067 --> 01:47:23,507
Speaker 35: that's a positive sign. So you know me, always they

2117
01:47:23,547 --> 01:47:27,387
Speaker 35: optimus and positive about the wars, but when they do capitulate, mate,

2118
01:47:27,427 --> 01:47:29,627
Speaker 35: you know me also, I'm not afraid they absolutely put

2119
01:47:29,667 --> 01:47:31,427
Speaker 35: the boot into them, but they haven't given me a

2120
01:47:31,467 --> 01:47:33,947
Speaker 35: reason much this year to do that, So I'm looking

2121
01:47:33,987 --> 01:47:35,027
Speaker 35: forward to twenty twenty six.

2122
01:47:35,107 --> 01:47:38,427
Speaker 2: Mate, me too, Paul. I was enjoy your the ability

2123
01:47:38,467 --> 01:47:40,947
Speaker 2: of you to do both of those things call ahead

2124
01:47:40,947 --> 01:47:43,387
Speaker 2: and logic, but also the passion of a long time fan.

2125
01:47:43,427 --> 01:47:45,387
Speaker 2: Always love chating league with you, mate, Thanks for calling three.

2126
01:47:45,387 --> 01:47:47,067
Speaker 11: Thanks Piny, Thank you mate, all the.

2127
01:47:47,107 --> 01:47:48,867
Speaker 2: Best, Mate, O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties

2128
01:47:48,907 --> 01:47:50,707
Speaker 2: and number twenty nine away from three. Sean with you

2129
01:47:50,827 --> 01:47:51,267
Speaker 2: right after this.

2130
01:47:52,187 --> 01:47:56,107
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with Jason

2131
01:47:56,147 --> 01:48:00,187
Speaker 1: Fine and GJ. Gunnerhmes New Zealand's most trusted home builder

2132
01:48:00,307 --> 01:48:00,827
Speaker 1: news Dogs.

2133
01:48:00,867 --> 01:48:03,147
Speaker 2: They'd be news talks. They'll be twenty six away from

2134
01:48:03,147 --> 01:48:06,147
Speaker 2: three talking black Ferns before three o'clock with Christina Sue

2135
01:48:06,547 --> 01:48:09,467
Speaker 2: updating you from the Shield match. Tasman lead Canterbury twelve

2136
01:48:09,507 --> 01:48:12,947
Speaker 2: points to seven after twenty two minutes at Apollo Project

2137
01:48:12,987 --> 01:48:15,667
Speaker 2: Studium in christ Yes, can I Sean, Thanks for holding mate.

2138
01:48:16,587 --> 01:48:17,387
Speaker 13: No get a pony?

2139
01:48:17,827 --> 01:48:20,387
Speaker 33: Yeah really read this point about the Warriors. I'm going

2140
01:48:20,427 --> 01:48:23,307
Speaker 33: to get them a six point five. The reason take

2141
01:48:23,387 --> 01:48:25,067
Speaker 33: out a point not seven point five? Is there a

2142
01:48:25,147 --> 01:48:28,427
Speaker 33: couple of close games with the Titans where senior players

2143
01:48:28,867 --> 01:48:32,107
Speaker 33: did not perform to NRL Grade one capability and they

2144
01:48:32,187 --> 01:48:34,787
Speaker 33: made some very silly mistakes. That's the difference between the

2145
01:48:34,787 --> 01:48:37,547
Speaker 33: Warriors and Canterbury and Melbourne. I for you others their

2146
01:48:37,547 --> 01:48:38,107
Speaker 33: players do.

2147
01:48:38,627 --> 01:48:39,027
Speaker 18: Not do that.

2148
01:48:39,987 --> 01:48:40,987
Speaker 33: That's a tactical issue.

2149
01:48:41,027 --> 01:48:43,227
Speaker 8: The strategic issue is the development squad.

2150
01:48:43,667 --> 01:48:46,227
Speaker 33: We lost Gus Gould during the COVID back over to

2151
01:48:46,307 --> 01:48:49,747
Speaker 33: Canterbury and the main reason Cameron Serraaldo has been able

2152
01:48:49,747 --> 01:48:52,827
Speaker 33: to build Canbury from the Cellar Duellers up to where

2153
01:48:52,867 --> 01:48:55,867
Speaker 33: they are now has been the back office and the development.

2154
01:48:55,907 --> 01:48:59,307
Speaker 33: The Esfrols Cup is doing its job, but we saw

2155
01:48:59,307 --> 01:49:01,547
Speaker 33: a couple of key people missing in that development team

2156
01:49:01,587 --> 01:49:03,947
Speaker 33: and that development management and I think that's going to

2157
01:49:03,947 --> 01:49:05,947
Speaker 33: be the key for the Warriors. That's the strategic plan

2158
01:49:06,027 --> 01:49:10,147
Speaker 33: that Bellamie understands, that Phil gool understands, Soreldo and Ivan

2159
01:49:10,227 --> 01:49:13,147
Speaker 33: Cleary who spent the first three years at Penrith doing

2160
01:49:13,227 --> 01:49:16,787
Speaker 33: that before he won his premierships. It's a web He's

2161
01:49:16,787 --> 01:49:17,987
Speaker 33: doing as mostly can.

2162
01:49:18,387 --> 01:49:18,867
Speaker 8: But I'm very.

2163
01:49:18,827 --> 01:49:21,667
Speaker 33: Disapported in certain players that didn't step up in certain games.

2164
01:49:22,827 --> 01:49:25,627
Speaker 33: Obviously the combinations now we have the injuries. It's better

2165
01:49:25,667 --> 01:49:27,787
Speaker 33: than the twenty twenty better than twenty twenty four. I

2166
01:49:27,787 --> 01:49:31,467
Speaker 33: appreciate that, but I think strategically is the development that

2167
01:49:31,667 --> 01:49:35,107
Speaker 33: needs to be like a major focus and technically some

2168
01:49:35,747 --> 01:49:39,707
Speaker 33: senior players need to need to not make those silly mistakes,

2169
01:49:40,427 --> 01:49:44,067
Speaker 33: especially drop balls at that level and tight games just on.

2170
01:49:44,147 --> 01:49:47,227
Speaker 2: Their development piece. Sean, It's a fascinating point for me.

2171
01:49:47,627 --> 01:49:49,987
Speaker 2: So are you saying that more New South Wales Cup

2172
01:49:50,027 --> 01:49:52,267
Speaker 2: players have to be given exposure to the to the

2173
01:49:52,347 --> 01:49:55,067
Speaker 2: first grade side or what does that what does that

2174
01:49:55,147 --> 01:49:55,907
Speaker 2: development look like?

2175
01:49:56,627 --> 01:49:59,587
Speaker 33: Well, basically what they do at Penrith and what what

2176
01:50:00,067 --> 01:50:04,147
Speaker 33: camon soireldo, what Gus Gill did from in Canterbury, they

2177
01:50:04,227 --> 01:50:06,987
Speaker 33: had a guru, they had a former a senior coach

2178
01:50:07,107 --> 01:50:11,747
Speaker 33: which guild was and cams and Iven Cleary has they

2179
01:50:11,867 --> 01:50:15,187
Speaker 33: blooded more players, They take chances. That's why Craig Bellamy

2180
01:50:15,227 --> 01:50:17,227
Speaker 33: when he has two or three key players go down,

2181
01:50:17,467 --> 01:50:20,627
Speaker 33: which he did this year, these other players aren't new bees.

2182
01:50:21,187 --> 01:50:23,387
Speaker 33: He takes the risks early on the season, gives them

2183
01:50:23,387 --> 01:50:26,147
Speaker 33: the blooded time so when they do have a crunch game.

2184
01:50:26,547 --> 01:50:28,467
Speaker 33: We've got this phobia where we don't bring these players

2185
01:50:28,467 --> 01:50:30,467
Speaker 33: into we absolutely need them and they've got no experience.

2186
01:50:32,667 --> 01:50:34,587
Speaker 2: You think how did you think tanner board went just

2187
01:50:34,787 --> 01:50:37,147
Speaker 2: because he was one who came and through necessity, how

2188
01:50:37,227 --> 01:50:38,027
Speaker 2: did you reckon he went?

2189
01:50:38,907 --> 01:50:39,227
Speaker 13: Okay?

2190
01:50:39,307 --> 01:50:42,267
Speaker 33: Well, he was an example. He did step up mostly

2191
01:50:42,347 --> 01:50:46,147
Speaker 33: for most of the appearances that was forced. That's what

2192
01:50:46,307 --> 01:50:49,867
Speaker 33: Ballamy and Cleary does at Parson and Melbourne respectively. Early

2193
01:50:49,947 --> 01:50:52,787
Speaker 33: on they chucked even a deep end because Baalami said

2194
01:50:52,787 --> 01:50:54,667
Speaker 33: that's the best test test of it where they can

2195
01:50:54,707 --> 01:50:56,947
Speaker 33: make it in the NRL and it pays dividends for

2196
01:50:57,067 --> 01:50:59,067
Speaker 33: him and you can lose a couple of matches earlier

2197
01:50:59,107 --> 01:51:02,547
Speaker 33: on the season to have proof of concept. I think

2198
01:51:02,627 --> 01:51:04,267
Speaker 33: maybe Andrew webs wants to do that. I don't know

2199
01:51:04,307 --> 01:51:07,427
Speaker 33: what the internal Some coaches have a huge, huge personality

2200
01:51:07,427 --> 01:51:08,147
Speaker 33: and they kind of tell.

2201
01:51:08,067 --> 01:51:08,787
Speaker 18: The owns what to do.

2202
01:51:09,147 --> 01:51:10,907
Speaker 33: I don't know what they until dynamics are of The

2203
01:51:10,947 --> 01:51:13,747
Speaker 33: worry is how much freedom Andrew Webster has to make

2204
01:51:13,787 --> 01:51:16,827
Speaker 33: those decisions. Whether the only thing to be pretty pretty

2205
01:51:16,947 --> 01:51:20,027
Speaker 33: literal thinking guys, but there are certain key tactical moves

2206
01:51:20,027 --> 01:51:22,307
Speaker 33: are going to make long term, strategic, long term and

2207
01:51:22,467 --> 01:51:25,187
Speaker 33: tactically some of those key players. I think what I said,

2208
01:51:25,227 --> 01:51:26,787
Speaker 33: he's been a great player. We need to buy another

2209
01:51:26,827 --> 01:51:29,627
Speaker 33: winger rocker Bery eas to have a permanent house partner,

2210
01:51:30,027 --> 01:51:32,187
Speaker 33: and I think we need to adopt the Melbourne pre season,

2211
01:51:32,227 --> 01:51:35,827
Speaker 33: which basically starts after the Grand Final. That's why they

2212
01:51:35,867 --> 01:51:38,347
Speaker 33: are where they are consistently, That's why Penrith is and

2213
01:51:38,507 --> 01:51:40,187
Speaker 33: can it be Look look at Cameron Sorell, at what

2214
01:51:40,227 --> 01:51:42,547
Speaker 33: he's done and the key part that has been the

2215
01:51:42,627 --> 01:51:44,427
Speaker 33: development squad is back office.

2216
01:51:45,827 --> 01:51:48,387
Speaker 2: Interesting, man, have you seen much of Jack Cleary here?

2217
01:51:48,427 --> 01:51:50,267
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously his surname, you know, put some into

2218
01:51:50,267 --> 01:51:51,987
Speaker 2: the spotlight and there's been a bit of a clamor

2219
01:51:51,987 --> 01:51:53,187
Speaker 2: for him to be given an opportunity.

2220
01:51:53,987 --> 01:51:55,507
Speaker 33: I've seen a little bit of a new South last

2221
01:51:55,507 --> 01:51:58,307
Speaker 33: cup he does. He's different to us, different to the brother,

2222
01:51:59,107 --> 01:52:02,067
Speaker 33: but he is actually quite a hidden talent and you're

2223
01:52:02,067 --> 01:52:03,747
Speaker 33: going to find he's going to be exposed to the

2224
01:52:03,867 --> 01:52:09,307
Speaker 33: NFL standard significantly more next year. Iron Cleary has got

2225
01:52:09,387 --> 01:52:12,827
Speaker 33: this machine, this factor which turns out players. They've lost

2226
01:52:12,907 --> 01:52:15,827
Speaker 33: half their Premier losing to us winning side last year,

2227
01:52:15,827 --> 01:52:18,427
Speaker 33: to other teams, and they're still and they're still in

2228
01:52:18,547 --> 01:52:21,507
Speaker 33: the in the top eight. That's it. You can do that,

2229
01:52:21,627 --> 01:52:23,867
Speaker 33: but if you've got the backup, so I'd see, I'd

2230
01:52:24,027 --> 01:52:26,387
Speaker 33: watch out for Jet Fleury as a name to watch

2231
01:52:27,267 --> 01:52:29,307
Speaker 33: the next couple of years. There's also a couple of

2232
01:52:29,387 --> 01:52:32,707
Speaker 33: good players coming through West Tigers and they haven't got

2233
01:52:32,787 --> 01:52:35,107
Speaker 33: the budget to keep them, so the worries. If you're

2234
01:52:35,107 --> 01:52:36,867
Speaker 33: looking for a winger, there are some good people coming

2235
01:52:36,907 --> 01:52:37,387
Speaker 33: on the market.

2236
01:52:37,987 --> 01:52:40,267
Speaker 2: Good man, Shawn, Hey, great cool mate, thanks for calling through.

2237
01:52:40,347 --> 01:52:43,547
Speaker 2: It's let's chat again in twenty twenty six six Shall

2238
01:52:43,587 --> 01:52:45,987
Speaker 2: we about the Warriors of next year? Good to get

2239
01:52:46,027 --> 01:52:47,987
Speaker 2: your call mate. Thanks indeed, final a couple of texts

2240
01:52:47,987 --> 01:52:49,427
Speaker 2: on the Warriors before we move on. They need a

2241
01:52:49,467 --> 01:52:53,307
Speaker 2: good six says this text, Chanelle is a bit like

2242
01:52:53,427 --> 01:52:57,987
Speaker 2: Gene Namu was a gap fellow. No more interesting. Another

2243
01:52:58,027 --> 01:53:00,507
Speaker 2: text here, great year considering everything, but we do need

2244
01:53:00,947 --> 01:53:04,067
Speaker 2: Jet next year. A fullback, a winger will be pretty

2245
01:53:04,107 --> 01:53:06,707
Speaker 2: close to a top four side. Then, and UNEs says

2246
01:53:06,707 --> 01:53:08,307
Speaker 2: part he would normally ring you for a chap, but too.

2247
01:53:08,387 --> 01:53:10,547
Speaker 2: Sad about the Warriors was that the game we were

2248
01:53:10,627 --> 01:53:13,587
Speaker 2: writing at Ford pass tried changed the momentum and then

2249
01:53:13,667 --> 01:53:15,627
Speaker 2: chasing the game Leka through two bad passes for a

2250
01:53:15,707 --> 01:53:17,987
Speaker 2: try and a Bond Warriors try. We were in the game,

2251
01:53:18,027 --> 01:53:21,707
Speaker 2: but the class difference of Clary's kicking game versus Boyd

2252
01:53:21,787 --> 01:53:24,467
Speaker 2: and Chanelle was the five percent difference. As I expected,

2253
01:53:24,547 --> 01:53:27,907
Speaker 2: compounding pressure did the job thanks to Clary's kicking. We'll

2254
01:53:27,987 --> 01:53:29,947
Speaker 2: chat next year. Good on you, Jordan, Thanks some date.

2255
01:53:29,987 --> 01:53:33,227
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed your calls and your texts this year as well.

2256
01:53:33,307 --> 01:53:35,267
Speaker 2: One Final one Warriors need more than one player in

2257
01:53:35,347 --> 01:53:40,427
Speaker 2: the squad that can kick long. Signed Jordi Barrett. I

2258
01:53:40,467 --> 01:53:43,387
Speaker 2: don't know whether Jordi Barrett's going to do Cody swap

2259
01:53:43,467 --> 01:53:46,027
Speaker 2: codes anytime soon. Got a big boon on tho isn't

2260
01:53:46,067 --> 01:53:49,107
Speaker 2: he still twelve seven to Tasman over Canterbury with twenty

2261
01:53:49,107 --> 01:53:51,107
Speaker 2: eight minutes gone on the Shield Challenge in christ Jitch

2262
01:53:51,507 --> 01:53:53,227
Speaker 2: twenty one to three. We'll take away come back and

2263
01:53:53,747 --> 01:53:56,867
Speaker 2: zooming on the Black Ferns into the semi finals of

2264
01:53:56,947 --> 01:54:00,267
Speaker 2: the Rugby World Cup. We'll break that down their quarterfinal

2265
01:54:00,307 --> 01:54:02,787
Speaker 2: win over South Africa with Christina so when we come

2266
01:54:02,827 --> 01:54:03,707
Speaker 2: back the.

2267
01:54:03,827 --> 01:54:09,347
Speaker 1: Tough questions off the turf. Weekends with Jason Tyne and GJ. Gunnerholmes,

2268
01:54:09,507 --> 01:54:11,747
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News.

2269
01:54:11,667 --> 01:54:16,027
Speaker 2: TALKSB, News TALKSB and Weekend Sport. It's seventeen away from three.

2270
01:54:16,067 --> 01:54:18,027
Speaker 2: The Black Ferns through to the semi finals of the

2271
01:54:18,027 --> 01:54:19,187
Speaker 2: Women's Rugby World Cup.

2272
01:54:21,467 --> 01:54:27,387
Speaker 3: Second half excellence in Exeter. What's for the Black Ferns

2273
01:54:28,467 --> 01:54:31,627
Speaker 3: semifinal bound at the Rugby World.

2274
01:54:31,427 --> 01:54:34,867
Speaker 2: Cup here forty six to seventeen thumping of South Africa

2275
01:54:34,987 --> 01:54:37,587
Speaker 2: in their quarter final. It was the second half which

2276
01:54:37,747 --> 01:54:41,147
Speaker 2: was the most impressive. It was ten all at half time,

2277
01:54:41,587 --> 01:54:43,347
Speaker 2: so it was almost a reverse of what happened in

2278
01:54:43,427 --> 01:54:47,267
Speaker 2: Wellington last night when the men's teams met. It was

2279
01:54:47,827 --> 01:54:49,867
Speaker 2: the Black Ferns in the second half of that game

2280
01:54:49,987 --> 01:54:53,867
Speaker 2: who just ran over the top of South Africa thirty

2281
01:54:53,987 --> 01:54:57,547
Speaker 2: six to seven. The second half score effected. It's eerily similar,

2282
01:54:57,627 --> 01:55:01,267
Speaker 2: isn't it eerily similar to what happened at sky Stadium

2283
01:55:01,347 --> 01:55:02,947
Speaker 2: last night of the men's game in terms of the

2284
01:55:03,707 --> 01:55:06,267
Speaker 2: second half performance. It was just the teams that were reversed. Now,

2285
01:55:06,827 --> 01:55:10,707
Speaker 2: in a scheduling catastrophe, Christina Sue, who was going to

2286
01:55:10,787 --> 01:55:13,347
Speaker 2: join us at this time twenty seventeen Rugby World Cup

2287
01:55:13,387 --> 01:55:17,387
Speaker 2: winner and Skysport commentator, had her flight delayed and she

2288
01:55:17,587 --> 01:55:20,867
Speaker 2: is on that flight right now. It pushed it back

2289
01:55:20,947 --> 01:55:24,427
Speaker 2: beyond her ability to chat to us, which is such

2290
01:55:24,467 --> 01:55:26,347
Speaker 2: a shame, because I really wanted to talk about this game.

2291
01:55:26,507 --> 01:55:28,387
Speaker 2: If you watched it, if you've got some thoughts on it,

2292
01:55:28,427 --> 01:55:31,467
Speaker 2: I'll take your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

2293
01:55:32,467 --> 01:55:34,507
Speaker 2: I've only watched highlights. It was by the time I

2294
01:55:34,587 --> 01:55:36,267
Speaker 2: got home last night, I was a bit rinsed after

2295
01:55:36,307 --> 01:55:37,867
Speaker 2: a long day. I have got up this morning and

2296
01:55:37,947 --> 01:55:40,067
Speaker 2: watched the highlights of the game, and in the second

2297
01:55:40,107 --> 01:55:45,707
Speaker 2: half we looked awesome, so good, And the scoreboard would

2298
01:55:45,867 --> 01:55:49,387
Speaker 2: also suggest that it feels to me as though Braxton

2299
01:55:49,627 --> 01:55:53,267
Speaker 2: Sorenson McGee has a mass of future in this game.

2300
01:55:53,827 --> 01:55:56,947
Speaker 2: She was utterly superb again last night. She even took

2301
01:55:56,987 --> 01:56:01,307
Speaker 2: over the kicking as well once Renee Holmes went off,

2302
01:56:01,507 --> 01:56:04,267
Speaker 2: so she can kick as well. We've got so many

2303
01:56:04,347 --> 01:56:07,307
Speaker 2: wheels in the backs, We've got so many options. Allen

2304
01:56:07,347 --> 01:56:10,747
Speaker 2: Bunting's got an embarrassment of riches. That's the wrong phrase.

2305
01:56:11,027 --> 01:56:15,947
Speaker 2: He's got just a wealth of possibilities out wide. You

2306
01:56:16,027 --> 01:56:18,667
Speaker 2: look at the back three that he named to start

2307
01:56:18,947 --> 01:56:23,467
Speaker 2: last night, Portia Woodman, Wickliffe, Braxton Sorenson McGee and Renee Holmes,

2308
01:56:24,227 --> 01:56:29,827
Speaker 2: and then off the bench Caitlinclall and Asha Letti, ainger

2309
01:56:30,147 --> 01:56:33,347
Speaker 2: I mean it's a it's just a battering ram of

2310
01:56:33,387 --> 01:56:36,707
Speaker 2: outside backs, isn't it. And a lot of teams aren't

2311
01:56:36,707 --> 01:56:38,107
Speaker 2: going to be able to live with them. South Africa

2312
01:56:38,147 --> 01:56:44,107
Speaker 2: certainly couldn't last night. Canada. Canada are next. Now they

2313
01:56:44,147 --> 01:56:48,707
Speaker 2: were equally impressive, I must say, in beating Australia forty

2314
01:56:48,787 --> 01:56:54,067
Speaker 2: six y five, so again eerily similar scoreline forty six

2315
01:56:54,147 --> 01:56:58,707
Speaker 2: points four. Canada as well against Australia, and you might

2316
01:56:58,747 --> 01:57:02,227
Speaker 2: think of Canada, Okay, Canada, what do you mean, Well,

2317
01:57:02,507 --> 01:57:05,547
Speaker 2: they beat us last year and we drew with him

2318
01:57:05,587 --> 01:57:09,147
Speaker 2: this year pack four series, so they will certainly not

2319
01:57:09,307 --> 01:57:13,867
Speaker 2: be anything close to an easy beat. However, the Black

2320
01:57:13,907 --> 01:57:16,947
Speaker 2: Ferns are on a good run, three good wins in

2321
01:57:16,987 --> 01:57:20,307
Speaker 2: Paul play, including that forty nil over Ireland, good win

2322
01:57:20,467 --> 01:57:24,387
Speaker 2: last night and Canada next. Now that game is at

2323
01:57:24,467 --> 01:57:27,227
Speaker 2: six o'clock on Saturday morning. That is a much more

2324
01:57:27,347 --> 01:57:30,467
Speaker 2: palatable time to be watching the Black Ferns than midnight

2325
01:57:30,627 --> 01:57:32,787
Speaker 2: or one point thirty in the morning, as it has

2326
01:57:32,907 --> 01:57:36,787
Speaker 2: been six o'clock Saturday morning they take on Canada. In

2327
01:57:36,947 --> 01:57:39,107
Speaker 2: terms of the other quarter finals, they are both tonight

2328
01:57:39,347 --> 01:57:44,267
Speaker 2: just after midnight France against Ireland and England against Scotland.

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Speaker 2: I think France and England would be heavily favored, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: they to win those prospective quarterfinals? So it looks like

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Speaker 2: we're heading for a France England semifinal on the other side.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand already locked in for a semi final against

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Speaker 2: the Canadians on the other So are we headed? It

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Speaker 2: feels like it for a a repeat of the last

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Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup Final, where, of course we all know

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Speaker 2: the drama we had to endure at eden Bark. Are

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Speaker 2: we looking at the same in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: time of what will be a sold out twickener? Mary says, piney,

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Speaker 2: how about the South African lineouts first two players and

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Speaker 2: another virtually the whole team and the lineouts. What if

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Speaker 2: England to dop that near the goal line? Very good game,

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Speaker 2: go the Black Ferns, Thanks Mary. I saw some footage

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Speaker 2: of that. Seemed that they had it like a thirteen

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Speaker 2: thirteen player mall at one stage, a rolling more. You

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Speaker 2: have to say South Africa are renovators, aren't they. Rassi

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Speaker 2: Erasmus has shown it in the men's game and clearly

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01:58:43,427 --> 01:58:45,587
Speaker 2: they're exactly the same in the in the women's game

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Speaker 2: as well. Look forward to next weekend and we'll give

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Speaker 2: plenty of coverage to the Black Ferns next weekend after

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Speaker 2: their semi final against against Canada next Saturday morning. Just

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Speaker 2: want to circle back to the All Blacks to finish

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Speaker 2: and raise it was up for media today. Scott Robertson

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Speaker 2: did some media at the airport before he flew out,

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Speaker 2: just for some thoughts on various parts of the game.

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Speaker 2: He talked about losing the battle in the air and

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Speaker 2: why that has been a real problem for the team.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, we put a lot of time into it and

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Speaker 17: probably the return we're not getting as much as we're

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Speaker 17: in the outcomes. So when we're going to change and

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Speaker 17: tweat the weeks, how we kick them the ball a

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Speaker 17: little bit, how we give them the ball, and how

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Speaker 17: we're going to receive the ball. So we'll use that

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Speaker 17: week to get better outcomes. We're going to have to

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01:59:32,747 --> 01:59:36,067
Speaker 17: because that's where as soon as the escorts went changed,

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Speaker 17: the game becomes an aerial battle in the air, and

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Speaker 17: as I mentioned last night said you've got so much

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Speaker 17: value and you turn out of their kick.

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Speaker 2: Game, that's a razor with the blow announcing the next

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01:59:46,427 --> 01:59:49,347
Speaker 2: flight in the background. He was also asked about Set

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Speaker 2: Peace and their struggles at set Peace time.

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Speaker 17: Well, there's a structure in a system. Individual still set

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01:59:55,867 --> 01:59:58,787
Speaker 17: and structure stuff, not just a few individual skill sets

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01:59:58,827 --> 02:00:01,187
Speaker 17: that the players have to get right, especially around the scrum.

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Speaker 17: That's the pictures they see, you know, Wild Buggy want

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Speaker 17: to be really clear of what pictures they get, and

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Speaker 17: I'll go after them if they don't. So we're going

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Speaker 17: to make sure they get to see that. Look, it's

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Speaker 17: a diligent or work extremely hard. We pride ourselves on

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Speaker 17: them as well, but we've got to deliver now so

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Speaker 17: that the adjustment's going to.

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Speaker 2: Have to come quickly. And in terms of adjustments, is

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Speaker 2: it time to consider some personnel changes for the team now? Yeah, Look, you're.

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Speaker 17: Always looking at what's the best team cohesion, give them time,

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Speaker 17: give them combinations, and what's what's the best for this occasion,

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Speaker 17: what's the best for this game. So you know, obviously

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Speaker 17: we thought the continuation of the group that had a

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Speaker 17: great performance, reward them that had a great win. That's

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Speaker 17: the chance to go again in cement positions. Obviously, also

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Speaker 17: for Leeve where he wasn't it's just great to see

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Speaker 17: him go out and just play, but you always have

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Speaker 17: those conversations and what's best for the group. Some of

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Speaker 17: natural too injuries, but we'll see next week.

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Speaker 2: That is Scott Robertson with some parting thoughts before he

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Speaker 2: hopped on the plane. The team will reassemble probably seven

2395
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Speaker 2: days from now, I'd imagine back up and all four

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Speaker 2: led us like one a fortnight from yesterday and we'll

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Speaker 2: see what the response is. Want to finish though, with

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Speaker 2: another man involved in coaching, another key we involved in coaching,

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Speaker 2: another former All Black involved in coaching, but for South Africa,

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Speaker 2: Tony Brown of course, as part of Russy Erasmus's coaching team.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the final wistle last night, I've got a

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Speaker 2: couple of words from Tony Brown on the sideline.

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Speaker 34: Nah, you know, it was a pretty intense first half

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Speaker 34: both sites. We're throwing the ball around and pretty entertaining rugby,

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Speaker 34: and you know, we just executed a little bit better

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Speaker 34: than we did in the first half and the second half,

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Speaker 34: and you know, the All Blacks tried to chase the game,

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Speaker 34: which opened opportunities for us as well, so which ended

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Speaker 34: up in you know, a reasonably big score.

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Speaker 2: How much did last week's sting and how much did

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Speaker 2: that get used as motivation for tonight.

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Speaker 34: Yeah, you know, it was a pretty physical battle last week.

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Speaker 2: It was a wet game.

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Speaker 34: We just didn't execute the way that we normally do,

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Speaker 34: which allowed the All Blacks you know, to beat us there.

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Speaker 34: So you know, we just needed to make sure we

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Speaker 34: converted those opportunities when we got inside the twenty two.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Tony Brown after the game last night.

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Speaker 2: His fingerprints all over the spring box at the moment,

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Speaker 2: even though they stick to their DNA, that tight, physical,

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Speaker 2: forward dominated game plan, their ability to be expensive as

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Speaker 2: well certainly down to Tony Brown's influence on that team.

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Speaker 2: In the ram Philly Shield Challenge, CANIB we have gone

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Speaker 2: ahead nineteen points to fifteen just as halftime approaches in

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Speaker 2: christ Church nine to three News Talks.

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Speaker 1: EDB analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World,

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vye. They're call always under an

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Speaker 1: eighty and eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EDB, News Talks, HEB and Weekend Sport, which has rapidly

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Speaker 2: come to an end for another Sunday and another weekend look.

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Speaker 2: I deeply appreciate all of your feedback and your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the rugby last night in particular. My apologies. We

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Speaker 2: can never even hope to get through all of the

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Speaker 2: text messages that get sent in, but please rest assure

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Speaker 2: we do read them all. We appreciate you taking the

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Speaker 2: time to send them. It's just unfortunate that sometimes, due

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Speaker 2: to the sheher weight of them, and I'm talking hundreds

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Speaker 2: this afternoon, we just don't get the chance to read

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Speaker 2: them all out. But thank you for taking the time

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Speaker 2: to send you text messages and your emails. I've received

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Speaker 2: many of those today as well, and even those who

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Speaker 2: tried to call through but couldn't get on the air.

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Speaker 2: This tends to be what happens after a game that

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Speaker 2: we're so passionate about not going the way that we

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Speaker 2: would have hoped. And I hope that's always the way.

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Speaker 2: I hope that we don't get to the point where

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Speaker 2: after an All black's loss we're just ambivalent about the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. I think we're a long way from that

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Speaker 2: if anything, If today is anything to go on, thank

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Speaker 2: you to Andy McDonald's producing today and yesterday, a couple

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Speaker 2: of big days for you, mate, Thanks indeed for all

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Speaker 2: of your heavy lifting. Thanks to you of course for

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Speaker 2: listening in and some beverage will be with you after

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Speaker 2: three o'clock with Sunday's edition of the Weekend Collective. As

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Speaker 2: far as our exit song today is concerned song by

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Speaker 2: Somali Canadian artist Kanan, which became a global hit when

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Speaker 2: it was aligned with the twenty ten feet of World

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Speaker 2: Cup hosted by South Africa. Plenty of waving flags from

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Speaker 2: South Africans today see him or not.

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Speaker 6: And then go back and back and back and then

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Speaker 6: bag and then they go back, go back. Bag.

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