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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

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Speaker 2: Ken, then Duplicy Ellen on the Mike asking breakfast.

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Speaker 1: With a Veda, retirement, communities, Life your Way, news togs, dead.

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Speaker 3: Be Morning, and welcome Today. Things in the Middle East

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Speaker 3: have dramatically escalated in just the last couple of hours.

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Speaker 3: Irans fired missiles on Israel. The question now is whether

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Speaker 3: the US gets involved in ratchets this up even further.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go to the Middle East aff to seven,

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Speaker 3: also going to talk to the Education Minister about the

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Speaker 3: latest curriculum complaints from teachers. Are we getting the world's

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Speaker 3: best athletes, by the way coming here in four years?

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Speaker 3: Sounds like it might be happening. And Mark and Jinny

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Speaker 3: do the politics after.

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Speaker 2: Rate Heather Duplicy Allen, Look.

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Speaker 3: That decision yesterday to say no to the supermarket merger

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Speaker 3: was really the only option available, was the right call

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Speaker 3: to make. I think, what is the one thing that

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Speaker 3: we keep on hearing that we need more of in

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Speaker 3: the supermarket sector. It's competition, right, So the Commerce Commission

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Speaker 3: can hardly be saying one minute that what we need

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Speaker 3: is more competition and then in the next minute reducing

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Speaker 3: competition and a merger was actually going to do that,

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Speaker 3: at least on the face of it. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: all we've got. This may go to the High Court.

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Speaker 3: Until it goes to the High Court, all we've got

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Speaker 3: is to look at the available facts and judge it

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Speaker 3: by what we see on the face of it. But

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Speaker 3: as it stands, what it looks like it was going

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Speaker 3: to do was reduce competition, because that merger was going

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Speaker 3: some sort of a geographical split where two buy in

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Speaker 3: and so on. If you've got a supplier who wants

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Speaker 3: to get the best deal for their product when they

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Speaker 3: rock up to the supermarket to sell it, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter whether they are in the North of the South Island.

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Speaker 3: They were going to try the whole country and they

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Speaker 3: were going to end up with only two buyers, not three.

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Speaker 3: And while that is strictly not a competition problem as

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Speaker 3: far as the consumer is concerned, I mean, it may

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Speaker 3: reduce what you're able to get on the shelves, this

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Speaker 3: is not strictly a competition problem. Though it does pretty

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Speaker 3: well demonstrate what happens when you merge food stuffs North

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Speaker 3: in that decision released yesterday was the COMMUS Commission was

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Speaker 3: saying that allowing the merger to go ahead would make

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Speaker 3: basically and the existing Woolworth supermarkets to basically coordinate pricing

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Speaker 3: with each other. I mean, isn't that basically implying that

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Speaker 3: fear that they were going to collude. Now that is

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Speaker 3: a very very big call from the Commuce Commission, and

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Speaker 3: if that was to happen, that would be a disaster,

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Speaker 3: and the risk of that happening yet of course, to

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Speaker 3: be tested in court, does make you wonder if there

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Speaker 3: really was any other option than simply saying no. Yesterday,

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Speaker 3: what news of.

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Speaker 2: The world in ninety seconds right, Israel and.

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Speaker 3: The US are on high alerts. Israeli citizens are warned

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Speaker 3: of an imminent ballistic missile attack.

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Speaker 4: We have dealt with this kind of threat in the past,

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Speaker 4: and we are going to deal with it now. I

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Speaker 4: would like to call upon all Israelis to continue and

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Speaker 4: behave responsibly as you've done throughout the war.

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Speaker 3: Now, obviously that missile attack has happened. More than two

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Speaker 3: hundred and nearly two hundred have been launched. This is

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Speaker 3: the Israeli defense minister pumping up his troops before the

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Speaker 5: Zoza, this is your mission, if we will employ all

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Speaker 5: that is needed, your forces, other forces, from the air,

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Speaker 3: Nitnyaho had some stern words for Iran.

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Speaker 2: There is nowhere in the Middle East Israel cannot reach.

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Speaker 6: There is nowhere we will not go to protect our

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Speaker 6: people and protect our country. With every passing moment, the

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Speaker 3: He also sees his water is with his Boller, not

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Speaker 7: Since we've been here.

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Speaker 8: You cann't hear that.

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Speaker 7: Now we have heard the steady beat of outgoing artillery fire,

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Speaker 3: Risky are battling the terrain in North Carolina over in

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Speaker 2: Describing this as Katrina and the Mouth.

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Speaker 9: We're working with some of our partners to bring in

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Speaker 2: Begin the helicopter is.

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Speaker 10: We're seeing that it's a helicopter the only way to get.

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Speaker 3: Now, the US economy are their a fears could take

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Speaker 10: You're encouraging this union to strike and shut down this

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Speaker 10: economy when ourtha Southeast United States is recovering from a

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Speaker 10: natural disaster. This is the worst time to have thirty

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Speaker 3: They're obviously talking about by it. And finally, if you're

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Speaker 3: known among your group is the one to fall in

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Speaker 3: love hard and fast, we now have a term for

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Speaker 3: you that we haven't had before. Psychologists have dubbed the

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Speaker 3: behavior emophilia, which is falling in love fast and falling

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Speaker 3: This isn't a mental disorder. You'll be pleased to know,

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Speaker 3: but it can lead to people ignoring red flags, perjuring

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Speaker 11: I always thought emophilia was just a fear of emos.

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Speaker 3: Could that be has probably that as well, And that

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Speaker 3: on the back of what is happening in Israel. So

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Speaker 3: I would say, maybe two or three hours ago to

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Speaker 3: started to arrive in Israel, the price of oil shot up.

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Speaker 3: Price of a barrel of crude oil went up three

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Speaker 3: nobody needs. Thirteen past six.

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Speaker 3: After half past six here the wires Israel. Such a

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Speaker 3: it's the likelihood of big players like the US getting

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Speaker 12: Yeah, morning, heav right?

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Speaker 3: Was it a good or not a good? Gdt aultralem

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Speaker 3: Ah kind of like it?

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Speaker 12: Kind of like it.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I've been quietly optimistic about the role that agram,

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Speaker 13: particularly dairy is going to play in sort of lifting

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Speaker 14: Our current economic funk.

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Speaker 13: But is that is reliant to some degree on these

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Speaker 13: overnight we've seen a one point two percent rise in

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Speaker 13: the Global Dairy Trade Index, which sort of continues I

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Speaker 13: would call them sort of settled and steadily increasing results

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Speaker 14: We've sort of seen that since April.

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Speaker 13: haven't seen the breakdown of the bids that have gone

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Speaker 13: China demand is still there.

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Speaker 14: But the supporting acts are still looking strong.

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Speaker 13: Butter milk powder up five percent, Chedder down at three

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Speaker 13: point eight percent. The outlier was Mozzarella, which was down

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Speaker 14: I don't know what's happening there. Look at the main players.

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Speaker 13: Those skim milk powder foul zero point six percent, so

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Speaker 13: not a significant fall. I'd call that stable, and whole

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Speaker 13: milk powder very much. The key ingredient up three percent.

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Speaker 13: That's the highest price we've seen that in a couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to take that now, the ends and

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Speaker 3: I confidence surer that we got yesterday. Was it enough?

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Speaker 3: Do you think to dash hopes of a fifty basis

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Speaker 14: I'm sort of I think you could argue the case

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Speaker 13: looking at the looking at the survey in a bit

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Speaker 13: of detail, your headline confidence improved, so your direction of

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Speaker 14: The headline number is still in negative teratures or net

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Speaker 13: Of firms expecting a deterioration in general economic conditions. Although

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Speaker 13: that's still negative, it's a big move from the net

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Speaker 13: forty percent that we saw who were negative in the

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Speaker 12: I think, Heather that.

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Speaker 13: This report carries sort of a feeling of conditions consistent

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Speaker 13: You got thirty one percent affirm reporting a decline and

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Speaker 14: But it's what's important is looking ahead.

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Speaker 13: So that's negative thirty one or sorry, thirty one percent

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Speaker 13: reporting a decline in that quarter.

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Speaker 12: But when we go.

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Speaker 13: Forward, only two percent expecting weaker activity in the next quarter,

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Speaker 13: so there's a difference between the here and now and

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Speaker 13: where they think they're going. Look, we also saw something

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Speaker 13: else we also saw in the A and Z business outlook.

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Speaker 13: The retail sector is feeling much more chipper about expected activity.

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Speaker 13: So that's that's really going to lend a hand or

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Speaker 13: that has been lending a hand to this.

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Speaker 12: Just the overall result.

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Speaker 13: So the September quarter was weak, but a thirteen percent

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Speaker 13: of retails are feeling positive about the general economic outlook

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Speaker 13: and a percent expecting demand to improve. Detail around pricing intentions,

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Speaker 13: Only seven percent of respondents intend to raise their selling prices,

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Speaker 13: An extension of this conflict, Heather, and that it went

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Speaker 3: Right Casey Costello. So yesterday I was talking to you

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Speaker 3: about Casey Costello and the pressure that the government's coming

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Speaker 1: It's six twenty six, right, trending now Warehouse the real

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Speaker 3: research to back up what you're feeling, Ossie. Researchers have

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Speaker 11: No, no, that that what's happening right now that you've

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Speaker 11: Hopefully now that doesn't keep people lessen.

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Speaker 3: News togs eDV update on the situation in Israel. IDF

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Speaker 3: Profressor keeps piling on this government over its handling of

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Speaker 3: on this Casey, Hello, Hi, how are you well?

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Speaker 9: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Casey.

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Speaker 3: This feels like a complete non story to me because

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Speaker 3: I'm reading this morning that Philip Morris has actually just

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and this is the unfortunate thing. The noise around

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Speaker 16: the two hundred and sixteen million was a contingency sum

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Speaker 16: our total excise collected was for related tobacco products not smoking,

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Speaker 16: was about six million, just under six million in twenty

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Speaker 3: And as you've said, now, turn around me would like

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Speaker 3: every single one of us will suddenly take the fags up.

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Speaker 16: Yeah. Well, this is the thing is that the only

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Speaker 16: at the moment, so you know, this is the differential.

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Speaker 16: We were looking for ce station tools. You know, we

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Speaker 3: We're saying there's no xcize on vaping. Therefore, you were

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Speaker 16: Well, we were trying to make it. We're only taking

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Speaker 3: And we're on a journeys. Is there any other company?

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Speaker 16: In the in the world there is, but not in

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Speaker 16: Well and this is where we know there are other

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Speaker 3: This was the big player.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is the big place.

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Speaker 3: Is it going to a launch?

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Speaker 16: Well, this is what I don't know. I am this

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Speaker 16: to what they're doing. Well, they're looking at.

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Speaker 3: To believe because I know what they're doing, and you're

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Speaker 16: Well, and this is what I'm hoping is that we

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Speaker 3: To have something to me. Okay, you guys have been

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Speaker 16: Well, well, I have been This is the point, and

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Speaker 16: And I have been putting this information out. I have

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Speaker 16: work we're doing. And I've been spending all my time

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Speaker 3: Case I appreciate your time, mate, have a good day.

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Speaker 3: That's Casey Costello, Associate Health Minister ges. Don't get me

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Speaker 3: talk about it sometime. A very cool thing I need

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Speaker 3: to just get you across really quickly. Apparently work is

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Speaker 3: underway to bring the world Athletic Indoor Championships here in

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Speaker 3: four years time. You would have heard this in the

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Speaker 3: news because the Minister for Sport, Chris Bishop, while he

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Speaker 3: World Athletics. And it sounds positive. And what this would

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Speaker 3: mean is we get all the big names and athletics

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Speaker 3: coming here maybe in four years time. So I'm going

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Speaker 3: to have a chat to Athletics New Zealand CEO Cam

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Speaker 3: Mitchell about that. After seven, it's seventeen away from seven the.

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold, US correspondent with US Now Richard, Hello, Wing,

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Speaker 3: Heather Right, what does the US do well, they are.

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Speaker 17: Trying to assess what is occurring. There have been two

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Speaker 17: Iranian salvos so far in Israel, hundreds of Iranian missiles fired.

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Speaker 17: We are seeing the northern part of Tel Aviv under

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Speaker 17: attack and numbers of these missiles have been brought down

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Speaker 17: by Israeli defenses. There are also reports of missiles over

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Speaker 17: high for in Jerusalem. So this is in central and

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Speaker 17: also southern Israel, where the country has air bases located,

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Speaker 17: but often in highly populated areas, so all kinds of

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Speaker 17: things can happen. The Pentagon warned that air bases and

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Speaker 17: intel command sites could be targeted. Now, back in April,

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Speaker 17: you recall Iran also fired a barrage of missiles into Israel,

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Speaker 17: US and the Brits and others. Back in April as well,

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Speaker 17: in Israeli leader Nettino, who took US concerns on board

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Speaker 17: and did not immediately respond, and then Israel reacted in

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Speaker 17: a scale down way. You know, it was twenty three

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Speaker 17: years ago when they coined the phrase October surprise. That is,

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Speaker 17: when Jimmy Cardo, who actually turns one hundred years old

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Speaker 17: this very day, was running for the White House against

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Speaker 17: Ronald Reagan. As American hostages were being held by Iran.

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Speaker 17: The Reagan team feared that Carta would be able to

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Speaker 17: the White House again. But instead, of course, Iran freed

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Speaker 17: the fifty two remaining hostages just minutes after Reagan was inaugurated.

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Speaker 17: I raised this because Iran, the same player, has put

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Speaker 17: itself at the center of the situation once again after

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Speaker 17: their proxy leader of Hasbala Hassan Israela was asassinated in

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Speaker 17: that Israeli air strike four days ago, and Israeli forces

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Speaker 17: then prepped for a broader military move into Lebanon. So

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Speaker 17: we might be in something of the same and in

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Speaker 17: some ways a very different situation now as Netanyao, who

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Speaker 17: has been preparing for some kind of Israeli ground move

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Speaker 17: strikes were in response to the killing of top leaders

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Speaker 17: of Hezbolah. Well, no surprise with that. Iran is being

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Speaker 17: precise with their statements. President Biden held talks just prior

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Speaker 17: to the Iranian missile firings. They had about three hours

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Speaker 17: before the missile attacks that they put out the US

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Speaker 17: alert that these things might be happening. So he held

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Speaker 17: At the same time, Israeli leader Netanyao, who has not

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Speaker 17: when Iran is finally free, and that moment will come

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Speaker 17: a lot sooner than people think, things will be very different.

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Speaker 2: So what is that foreshadow?

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Speaker 17: Last April, Israel showed its ability to penetrate Iranian air space,

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Speaker 17: so Israel could target Iran's energy structure, then nuclear program.

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Speaker 17: There's growing sentiment in Israel to go against Iran directly. Meantime,

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Speaker 17: once again, we're in the final throes of the US

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Speaker 17: election campaign, just weeks to go. The rival contenders for

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Speaker 17: here for their campaign debate. Harris's running mate Tim Walls

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Speaker 17: has been governor of Minnesota, known for that folks he

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Speaker 15: JD.

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Speaker 17: Vans is a one time Yale debater with an aggressive approach.

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Speaker 17: It has often said the VP debate doesn't matter this time,

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Speaker 17: it could be far more significant.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think has the advantage because Richard it

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Speaker 3: feels to me like coach Waltz does because he's a

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Speaker 3: much nicer chap.

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Speaker 2: Well, it depends.

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Speaker 17: We've seen Jdvans be very aggressive in various encounters, but

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Speaker 17: at the same time, most notably, he had an on

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Speaker 17: the throes of that that he would sometimes create issues

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Speaker 17: like this claim that there might be Haitians eating dogs

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Speaker 17: and cats in small towns, and so, you know, we

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Speaker 17: have to wait and see exactly how this plays out.

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Speaker 17: The Advanced team say they have been preparing quite a deal.

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Speaker 17: The Walls team say that he's a little bit nervous

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Speaker 17: about this, but both of them have been in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, Hey, Richard, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, mate. That's Richard Arnold, US correspondent. Look at it.

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Speaker 3: It appears that that attack on Israel launched by Iran

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Speaker 3: is over the idea IF has now told civilians they

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Speaker 3: can exit bomb shelters. Another thing also happened in Tel

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Speaker 3: may not be related unclear at the moment. They are

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Speaker 3: calling it a terror attack, but a couple of gunmen

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Speaker 3: appear to have opened fire, They've been taken out. There

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Speaker 3: are eight dead as a result of that, nine away

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Speaker 3: Listen on the president US presidential vice presidential debate. Normally

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Speaker 3: these things don't matter, this is what Richard was just

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Speaker 3: talking about before. Normally these things don't matter at all, right,

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Speaker 3: But this time around, it feels like it's a whole

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Speaker 3: lot more significant. And that's largely for a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 3: The first, I think, obviously, is the fact that we

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Speaker 3: in the US, and we haven't had that many, So

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Speaker 3: you know, it's another debate that kind of fills that gap.

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting. But also I think it's because there

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Speaker 3: by either of these candidates. Like there's just that sliver

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Speaker 3: was like one hundred thousand voters that were up for

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Speaker 3: those one hundred thousand voters may in fact swing things.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Coach Waltz has got the advantage just

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Speaker 3: in terms of likability, because the more you I jd Vance,

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Speaker 3: and knows what he's doing. But he is such a tryhard,

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Speaker 3: isn't he. I mean to the extent that he actually

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Speaker 3: I'd be starting to get annoyed by that, like the

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Speaker 3: sucking up. It's just far too transparent. Anyway, that's just

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Speaker 3: my vibe. You can see why it's a good thing

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Speaker 3: I'm not voting in the US, because I'd be voting

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Speaker 3: solely on that. I'd be like, I don't like that

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Speaker 3: you dressed like him. Your minim not voting for you anyway.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a chat to somebody who actually does

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Speaker 3: know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 9: That.

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Speaker 3: Who's that person is Mattterrell, who is Marco Rubio's former

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Speaker 3: chief of stuff. It's gonna be with us after half

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Speaker 3: past seven. Actually on that I have a little bit

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Speaker 3: of on the vibes jd Vance loses, but potentially on

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Speaker 3: the policy he wins, which is obviously the more important thing.

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Speaker 3: And I will run you through that when I get

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Speaker 3: a chance, hopefully in the next half hour. It's five

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Speaker 2: Are the outs. It's the biz with.

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Speaker 1: Business favor take your business productivity to.

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Speaker 2: The next level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the biz that I was just teasing

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Speaker 3: early about half an hour ago. Here it actually is.

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Speaker 3: So if you think your groceries are too expensive in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, well they are. They are more expensive than

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Speaker 3: everywhere else. Here's your research. Ozzie guys have compared the

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Speaker 3: prices of common grocery items like fruit, veggie, milk, cheese, chocolate, bread,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. All the stuff you need. How to look

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Speaker 3: at the supermarkets in New Zealand Australia. The UK and

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Speaker 3: Ireland looked at the two largest supermarkets in each country,

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Speaker 3: so for us that was Pack and Save in Countdown.

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Speaker 3: We come out as the most pricey place. The UK

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Speaker 3: is the cheapest place in the UK for a shop

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Speaker 3: with all the staple items, they're paying up to three

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Speaker 3: to three hundred and eighty three dollars, In Australia they're

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand we are paying up to four hundred

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Speaker 3: so definitely by far and away the most expensive. Researcher

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Speaker 3: said that the reason that we're so pricey is because

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Speaker 3: you know all the stuff we already know. We're isolated

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Speaker 3: global supply chain corridor. We have a small population where

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Speaker 3: rely on imports, et cetera. But it's also because we've

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Speaker 3: got the highest wages out of any of those comparable countries.

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Speaker 3: And guess who the higher labor costs for a business

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Speaker 3: get pushed onto. That's right, you and me, alrighty coming

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Speaker 3: up we have the news, so let's go to the

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Speaker 3: Middle East. We'll have a chat to Habi Batah find

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Speaker 3: out just how serious this is in terms of the

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Speaker 3: US getting involved, and the teacher unions are having another

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Speaker 3: crack at the government's overhaul of the curriculum of the

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Speaker 3: Education Minister on that shortly.

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Speaker 2: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. Heather

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Speaker 2: Difflcy Ellen on the Mic Hosking.

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togsad be.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you. Right, we'll go straight to the

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Speaker 3: Middle East, where the situation is moving fast. In just

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Speaker 3: the last few hours, Iran has sent up to three

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty missiles and drones into Israel, setting off

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Speaker 3: the sound of explosions and sirens. Now this is in response,

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Speaker 3: Iran says to Israel killing senior Chzboula figures rather than

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Speaker 3: necessarily yesterday's ground invasion of Lebanon with US now as

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Speaker 3: journalist and founder of new site by Rootreport dot com,

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Speaker 3: Habib Batahabib, Hello, hi there, what do you reckon happens?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 3: Does the US get involved?

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Speaker 18: Well, I mean it's hard to say what's on the

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Speaker 18: mind of US military officials. The US might already be

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Speaker 18: involved in the US is quite involved in sharing intelligence

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Speaker 18: with Israel, and there has been talk about all kinds

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Speaker 18: of you know, billions of dollars worth of weapons. All

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Speaker 18: the bombs that are being dropped are American made. So

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Speaker 18: I said, well, I say the US has already involved,

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Speaker 18: it's unclear if they're going to be involved in to

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Speaker 18: more extent.

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Speaker 3: Israel says no one was killed because basically the Iron

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Speaker 3: Dome worked. Iransys eighty percent of the missiles hit their targets,

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Speaker 3: which is more likely to be true.

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Speaker 18: Well, I'm watching videos online of the missiles hitting the ground,

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Speaker 18: several missiles. I've seen at least five or six of

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Speaker 18: the missiles hit the ground. So it depends on what

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Speaker 18: you're watching. And there have been videos of missiles touching down.

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Speaker 18: So I think it's important to, you know, not always

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Speaker 18: take the Israeli government's position as fact, because it could

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Speaker 18: also be a more propaganda. In a time of war,

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Speaker 18: militaries say things that will strike fear into their enemies

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Speaker 18: and not cause any kind of fear into their own

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Speaker 18: population and try to reinforce, you know, a kind of

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Speaker 18: confidence in their governments. So you know, there is the

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Speaker 18: missiles are landing, we have seen them videos of that.

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Speaker 3: The smart thing for Israel to do right now is

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Speaker 3: not to respond to this, obviously at the risk of escalating.

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Speaker 3: The thing further is that what Israel does do you

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Speaker 3: think it just doesn't respond.

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Speaker 17: Well.

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Speaker 18: I mean Israel has shown that it has no acts

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Speaker 18: with impunity. I mean Israel has not been stopped, you know,

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Speaker 18: only more billions and billions at all and more weapons

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Speaker 18: are pouring on Israel, so Israel has no incentive to

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Speaker 18: stop it. Seems Israel has the full backing of you know,

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Speaker 18: the European, the Western allies of the United States. There's

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Speaker 18: been no real strong criticism, no no pausing in the

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Speaker 18: weapons shipment. So I think Israel believes that it can

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Speaker 18: do whatever it wants.

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Speaker 19: It can.

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Speaker 18: It can flatten Lebanona, has has flattened eighty percent of Gaza,

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Speaker 18: and we're seeing huge neighborhoods and Bario being flatten and

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Speaker 18: we're seeing civilian areas being targeted there. There there's no

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Speaker 18: distinction often between UH military targets and civilian targets. So

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Speaker 18: you know, Israel has been acting with impunity and it

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Speaker 18: seems that that's set to continue.

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Speaker 3: Is it possible that Iran has achieved what it wanted

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Speaker 3: to achieve, which woul simply being seen to act right

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Speaker 3: because they've done that before. Is it possible there five

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Speaker 3: these missiles and had a few spots here and there,

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Speaker 3: and then they just let it go.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I think you know Iran, you know,

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Speaker 18: it would be difficult for Iran to take on the

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Speaker 18: United States and Israel at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 18: so they probably do want to do some kind of

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Speaker 18: limited action, it seems.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the.

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Speaker 18: Rockets are a major rockets and missiles and they're falling down,

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Speaker 18: and people, you know, in other Arab countries, you know,

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Speaker 18: in the Palestinians Lebanese probably feel a bit of retribution

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Speaker 18: now because they've been that's what they've been dealing with.

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Speaker 18: Although you know, it's important to note that the missiles

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Speaker 18: that Israel drops on the Palestinians and Lebanese there are

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Speaker 18: no bomb shelters for them to go to. So Israelis

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Speaker 18: are very well prepared. They get a lot of warning,

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Speaker 18: they have all kinds of radar systems, but most Lebanies

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Speaker 18: and Palestinians have no warning maybe a few minutes at maximum,

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Speaker 18: not enough time to evacuate, and they're often bombed to

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Speaker 18: the next place that they go, so it's a very

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Speaker 18: uneven battlefield.

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Speaker 3: Abe, it's good to talk to you. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: filling us in. Habi Bataho's journalists and a founder of

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Speaker 3: Beirut Reports dot com. The UN has just let it

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Speaker 3: be known that they're going to be meeting tomorrow about

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Speaker 3: the situation. Interestingly, it takes twelve minutes for a missile

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Speaker 3: that's fired in Iran to reach Israel, and it appears

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Speaker 3: that most of them would have been intercepted over Syria

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Speaker 3: eleven past seven either. So teaching unions are having another

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Speaker 3: crack at the government's overhaul of the curriculum. The PPTA

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Speaker 3: has got its annual conference on this week and they've

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Speaker 3: released a survey revealing that most of the secondary school

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Speaker 3: teachers there aren't happy with the NCEEA Level one roll

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Speaker 3: out with us now, as Education Minister Erica Stanford, Erica,

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Speaker 3: good morning, good morning, any of the how I see,

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Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you. I see you had to go

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Speaker 3: and chance to them yesterday or the other day. Did

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Speaker 3: they give you a warm reception or was it a

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Speaker 3: bit rough?

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Speaker 9: See yesterday and actually it was an exceptionally good conception.

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Speaker 9: I had a great time. They were wonderful. I go

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Speaker 9: very very well with Chris Abercrombie and the PPTA, and

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Speaker 9: to be sited them technically, the grumblings that they're having

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Speaker 9: at the moment is not with a curriculum, because there

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Speaker 9: is no curriculum. It's with the NCEEA changes to Level one,

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Speaker 9: and that is aimed at the previous government, and I

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Speaker 9: agree wholeheartedly with them. When I came into office last year,

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Speaker 9: I saw some results that showed that well over half

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Speaker 9: of schools felt not prepared or only somewhat prepared for

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Speaker 9: next year's Level one. Saw this and then I started

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Speaker 9: fielding calls from Principles and just saying we don't know

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Speaker 9: what to teach next year because there are no subject

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Speaker 9: learning outcomes. We don't have any exemplars. So we had

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Speaker 9: six weeks to scramble with the subject associations to write

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Speaker 9: subject learning outcomes over Christmas. Associations did an amazing job

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Speaker 9: and posh ENZQA to get those exemplars ready that weren't

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Speaker 9: going to be ready till May. This was a disastrous

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Speaker 9: rollout by the previous government of NCAT. Well, we did

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Speaker 9: those subject learning outcomes and we did the exemplars and

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Speaker 9: the the sector of the PUSS for next year to

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Speaker 9: make a few changes which we have around the types

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Speaker 9: of assessments we've moved to do that. The bigger problem

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Speaker 9: has only really come to light at the back end

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Speaker 9: of this year with the fact that they don't like

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Speaker 9: the big slots of small, smaller, fewer, sorry larger, fewer,

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Speaker 9: bigger standards rather than smaller and fewer standards which we

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Speaker 9: moved away from. So I've been in contact with the

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Speaker 9: lots of principles and they said, there's nothing much you

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Speaker 9: can do for next year. But I've put together a

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Speaker 9: group of experienced principles from around the country who are

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Speaker 9: now working at pace on MCEEA changes and what we

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Speaker 9: can do. I've also asked to Ero to write a

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Speaker 9: full report on what happened with Level one rollout and

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Speaker 9: in CAA overall. It's coming to me in November, but

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Speaker 9: I've seen the early indications and it's pretty damning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, best of luck dealing with this. Eric is Stanford,

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Speaker 3: the Education Minister. Heather duper c La, you remember Auckland's

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Speaker 3: overnight parking changes in the debarcle around that back in May, right,

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Speaker 3: it surprised everybody. Auckland Transport announced that they would that

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Speaker 3: they would be charging for parking in the city overnight.

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Speaker 3: They'll be doing it very shortly, blindsided everyone, blindsided the mayor.

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Speaker 3: And then everybody was so upset about it, and the

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Speaker 3: mayor had such a hard word with At they decided

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Speaker 3: they would delay it, and they delayed it until the

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Speaker 3: first of October, which was yesterday, and there are no

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Speaker 3: overnight parking charges yesterday. At on the very day, on

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Speaker 3: the very day, puts out a statement and goes, oh, Yna,

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Speaker 3: I'm actually going to delay it till December. Now. Now,

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Speaker 3: I tell you what I like about this. I personally

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Speaker 3: don't mind the overnight parking. I like to sweat an asset,

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Speaker 3: right and that's a city asset, so get your money

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Speaker 3: out of it. I don't mind it at all. However,

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Speaker 3: what I like is that the mayor has listened to

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Speaker 3: what the people want in the city, has instructed at

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Speaker 3: to do what the people want in the city. And

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Speaker 3: you don't get enough of that from your council. So

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Speaker 3: that's a good thing. Ay, quarter Past the Mike.

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Speaker 3: with us after half past seven. And also, don't forget

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Speaker 3: Right now it's eighteen past seven. Now here's something potentially

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Speaker 3: very cool on the horizon. Turns out that our work

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Speaker 3: is underway to try to bring the World Athletic in

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Speaker 3: all championships here in four years time, and that will

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Speaker 3: be happening just as we expect New Zealand's interest to

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Speaker 3: pick up after the success of Hamish Kern all those

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Speaker 3: guys over at the Olympics with US now as Athletics

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Speaker 3: New Zealand CEO. Cam. That's your morning, Cam Wanning Heather.

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Speaker 3: You reckon this is going to happen.

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Speaker 19: Oh, look, we're going to give it a go for sure.

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Speaker 3: How do you rate your chances? I want it to

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Speaker 3: be high, Cam. I'm asking you this for a reason

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Speaker 3: I want this thing to happen.

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Speaker 19: Oh look, we're quietly confident.

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Speaker 20: I mean, like anything like this, there's big numbers involved,

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Speaker 20: so we've got to do the work. We're just about

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Speaker 20: to embark on a fees of Beilieve study to understand,

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Speaker 20: you know, whether it's possible or not that we can

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Speaker 20: actually put a bit forward.

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Speaker 19: But it's something that we have as an aspiration of

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Speaker 19: ours to bring major events like this for athletics to

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Speaker 19: our shorts. It's an event that we don't typically see

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Speaker 19: in our country, so you know, there's a massive novelty

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Speaker 19: factor there that we think people will get them behind

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Speaker 19: and support. It's a pretty cool event. It's three days,

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Speaker 19: it's the best athletes in the world competing on what's

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Speaker 19: called a short track whilst it's called the World Indoors

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Speaker 19: Wood Athletics and twenty three changed the rules so it

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Speaker 19: could actually be a short track, which is a two

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Speaker 19: hundred meter track and can be in an outdoor venue.

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Speaker 19: So that makes it, I guess possible for countries like

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Speaker 19: ours that don't necessarily have massive indoor facilities. Now we

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Speaker 19: could essentially put a two hundred meter track inside Eden

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Speaker 19: Park or a facility like that and run a pretty

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Speaker 19: cool athletics event.

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Speaker 3: Well, fantastic, So it's pretty easy for us to be

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Speaker 3: able to do. Were you were you at that meeting

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Speaker 3: between christ Bishop and SIBCO in Paris.

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Speaker 19: Look, we're around, you know, we're obviously spending a lot

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Speaker 19: of time with Word Athletics ourselves up there and making

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Speaker 19: sure that that we were there aware of our aspiration

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Speaker 19: and ensuring that I guess New Zealand's able to build

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Speaker 19: those important relationships required to deliver events like this.

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Speaker 3: And so are you getting a sense that this is

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Speaker 3: actually a real thing that that zib CO is seriously

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Speaker 3: considering us.

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Speaker 19: There's a bit in process that World Athletics obviously run through,

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Speaker 19: so you know, I think it's a favorable thing. Don't

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Speaker 19: have a lot of these types of events. So World

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Speaker 19: Athletics is a truly global governing body with two hundred

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Speaker 19: and fourteen nations involved, you know, want to be able

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Speaker 19: to take their events around the globe, and Oceania as

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Speaker 19: an area doesn't typically hold a lot of these events,

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Speaker 19: so there's a process that we need to work through

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Speaker 19: with them. And similarly, there's a process with government through

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Speaker 19: the Major Events Fund that we need to work through

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Speaker 19: it's a contestable fund, but what we want to be

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Speaker 19: able to do is ensure that everyone's aware of the

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Speaker 19: opportunity and that, as I said, we can sort of

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Speaker 19: put our best foot forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, good luck with it.

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Speaker 1: Cam.

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Speaker 3: I'm really into it, Cam Mitchell Athletics, New zeal I'm

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Speaker 3: into it because I reckon. Can I tell you I

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Speaker 3: reckon that these kinds of things don't sound that exciting

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Speaker 3: until they're happening, like the FIFA Women's World Cup, and

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Speaker 3: then it's just such a good time. Seven twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Much together duplessy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Seven twenty four. Look, I'll be honest with you. I'm

893
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Speaker 3: kind of loath to keep talking about this, but I

894
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Speaker 3: think Chris Luxon is being treated really unfairly on the

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Speaker 3: sale of his apartment, and because he's been treated so unfairly,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to avoid saying something about this.

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Speaker 3: The latest installment on this you will see this in

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Speaker 3: the morning papers today, is a series of stories now

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Speaker 3: pointing out that Chris Luxon would have paid up to

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Speaker 3: seventy thousand dollars in tax on the sale of his

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Speaker 3: apartment if it wasn't for his government changing the bright

902
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Speaker 3: line test rules so he bought the apartment in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: The bright line test back then was five years, and

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Speaker 3: because he has sold it within the five years, it

905
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Speaker 3: should have been subject to the five year brightline test,

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Speaker 3: and he should have paid a capital gains tax on

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Speaker 3: it of seventy thousand dollars, but his government cut the

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Speaker 3: bright line test back to two years effect of July

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Speaker 3: this year, so he didn't have to pay any tax.

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Speaker 3: The implication of that being that, either by design or

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Speaker 3: by luck, he has managed to dodge a tax that

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Speaker 3: he actually should have paid. Give me a break, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the only reason cast your mind back, the only reason

914
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Speaker 3: that luckson is selling that apartment because we pressured him

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Speaker 3: into moving into Premiere House. He didn't want to move

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Speaker 3: into Premiere House. That was obvious, and why should he.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the place is famously cold and drafty, and

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Speaker 3: given that this guy has been earning megabucks for at

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Speaker 3: least a couple of decades, he probably hasn't lived in

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Speaker 3: a house as cold as a student flat for a

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Speaker 3: couple of decades. Why would he want to start now

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Speaker 3: when he's the prime minister of the country. But we

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Speaker 3: gave him grief, didn't we for not living there and

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Speaker 3: for taking the accommodation allowance to live in his apartment instead.

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Speaker 3: And so finally in February this year he caved and said, fine, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll move into Premier House. But now that he's moved

927
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Speaker 3: into Premier House, we're not happy about that either, because

928
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Speaker 3: now we can see he's making money off his apartment.

929
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Speaker 3: Come on, what is it that we actually want here?

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Speaker 3: He now isn't costing the taxpayer on the accommodation allowance anymore.

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Speaker 3: He clearly did not change the bright line test so

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Speaker 3: he could avoid tax. That was an election promise made

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Speaker 3: last year when he already, if you remember, was still

934
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Speaker 3: intending to keep owning his property. So what has he

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Speaker 3: done wrong? The absence of fairness in the ongoing media

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Speaker 3: reporting on this suggests to me that this is exactly

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Speaker 3: what he thinks this is, which is the politics of

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Speaker 3: envy togever do for see Allen right on the JD

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Speaker 3: Vancy welcome to text me on that We're going to

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Speaker 3: talk to Jenny and Mark about it after eight o'clock

941
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Speaker 3: when they do politics Wednesday. Slight advantage that JD Vance

942
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Speaker 3: may have in this debate that's kicking off at two

943
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Speaker 3: this afternoon is that he is talking about subjects that

944
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Speaker 3: people care about, right, which is his subjects are slightly

945
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Speaker 3: more interesting to people than the ones Tim Watts is

946
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Speaker 3: going to be talking about. There's a CBS you gov

947
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Speaker 3: polled out this week. Eighty six percent of respondents said

948
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Speaker 3: they wanted to hear from the candidates about the economy,

949
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Speaker 3: which is a Republican strength more so than a Democrat strength,

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Speaker 3: and three quarters said that they wanted to hear the

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Speaker 3: candidate's views on immigration, once again a Republican strength, not

952
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Speaker 3: a Democrat strength at all. And interesting for both of

953
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Speaker 3: the guys though, is that it appears that they will

954
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Speaker 3: be getting a fair hearing from the public because more

955
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Speaker 3: than fifty percent of respondents reckon that both of the

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Speaker 3: guys are competence. So that sounds that sounds like a

957
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Speaker 3: rare bit of fairness there, doesn't it. We'll talk more

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Speaker 3: with Rubio Marco, Rubio's guy next after the News.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can for Us and the Duple

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Speaker 1: c Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News Dogs.

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Speaker 3: That'd be The other point regarding Luxeon's properties is that

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Speaker 3: he's done upgrading work and all the comments are based

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Speaker 3: on gross profit before upgrading expenses. There may actually be

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Speaker 3: no net profit or certainly would be significant less than

966
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Speaker 3: the misrepresentation by the media. Daniel, thank you for that. Hey,

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Speaker 3: really interesting little things happening in Dunedin. You know that

968
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Speaker 3: dogs can sniff out disease, but there are a couple

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Speaker 3: of dogs down there called hero In Hogan that actually

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Speaker 3: can sniff out samples of bowel and ovarian cancer with

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Speaker 3: an accuracy rate of one hundred percent. I'll get you

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Speaker 3: across that before eight o'clock. That's just quite incredible to me.

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Speaker 3: Right now, twenty two away from it, you say, can

974
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Speaker 3: you say? We're just hours away from the first vice

975
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Speaker 3: presidential debate in the US two o'clock this afternoon our time.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty clear who this guy thinks is going to win.

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Speaker 12: Going up against a moron, a total moron.

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Speaker 17: How she picked him is unbelievable, and I think it's

979
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Speaker 17: a big factor.

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Speaker 14: There's something wrong with that gay. He's sick. He went

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Speaker 14: into the Michigan.

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Speaker 12: Game the other day. He got booed out. I went

983
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Speaker 12: into the Alabama game. The one hundred and twenty thousand

984
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Speaker 12: people went crazy.

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Speaker 3: Look, these things normally don't matter, but this time around,

986
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Speaker 3: because the race is so tight, and because there are

987
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Speaker 3: no further presidential debates planned, it actually does. Managing partner

988
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Speaker 3: of Firehouse Strategies and Marco Rubio's former chief of staff,

989
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Speaker 3: Matt Tyrell's here to share the debate. Matt.

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Speaker 21: Hello, Hey, great to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Tim Waltz has got the edge because

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Speaker 3: he is so much more likable than JD. Vance. Am

993
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Speaker 3: I being unfair?

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Speaker 21: Well, it's up to the voters decide. But what I

995
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 21: can tell you is that I think voters are less

996
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 21: concerned right now about personalities and are much more focused

997
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 21: on candidates records. Yeah, particular what these candidates will do

998
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 21: when it comes to affordability, the economy, and border security,

999
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Speaker 21: and that's going to be the issues that decide this race.

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Speaker 21: And those independent undecided voters who will be really deciding

1001
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Speaker 21: this election among other voters, but comes out of those

1002
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Speaker 21: swing voters, if you will, in those handful of background states.

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Speaker 21: Those are the issues they care about when the watching

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Speaker 21: this debate tonight, and that's what they'll be focused on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is what according to that CBS poll,

1006
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Speaker 3: this is what the people want to hear about. They

1007
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Speaker 3: want to hear about about immigration, they want to hear

1008
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Speaker 3: about the economy, if j Devons can keep it to that,

1009
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Speaker 3: does he win.

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Speaker 21: I think it's gould be a better night tonight for

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Speaker 21: Center jd Vance if he focuses on those issues and

1012
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Speaker 21: not just talking about the future that a Trump Van's

1013
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 21: ticket would look like if they were elected, but also

1014
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Speaker 21: drawing contrast, you know, for example, drawing contrast between foreign

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Speaker 21: President Trump's record on the economy and inflation and border

1016
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Speaker 21: security and comparing that with the Biden Harris administrations record

1017
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Speaker 21: on those issues. Tonight's just not just about the future,

1018
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Speaker 21: but for many voters, the clear question will be my

1019
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Speaker 21: better off today than I was four years ago? And

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Speaker 21: I think it's a real challenge for the Harror's ticket

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Speaker 21: right now with respect to this debate and this election.

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Speaker 21: I think at the end of the day, what voters

1023
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Speaker 21: are looking for those which candidate can really demonstrate the

1024
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Speaker 21: votes that they can lead on those issues over the

1025
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Speaker 21: next four years.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that there are people out there who,

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously a very small number lift now, but

1028
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Speaker 3: people out there who haven't made up their minds about

1029
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, who will actually make the

1030
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Speaker 3: minds based on the performance of one of these two guys.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think there's a handful of voters out there

1032
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Speaker 21: right now who are on the side in this race.

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Speaker 21: I think what you're looking at right now, though, is

1034
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Speaker 21: another section of voters to really be focused on here,

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Speaker 21: the Trump vance ticket in particular, are those voters who

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Speaker 21: traditionally vote Democratic but right now may be given the

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Speaker 21: Trump advance ticket. To look here, I mean, for example,

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Speaker 21: you look at union voters. Right now, Vice President Harris

1039
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Speaker 21: is underperforming. Among Union voters. They tend to vote and

1040
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Speaker 21: pass elections with the Democrat nominee for president. That may

1041
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Speaker 21: not be the case of time with many Union voters

1042
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Speaker 21: out there who are really being impacted by the economy

1043
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Speaker 21: inflation in particular. Take Hispanic voters, you know, look foreg

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Speaker 21: Persident Trump right now is around forty one percent with

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Speaker 21: Hispanic voters. That's an astonishing number for Republican nominee for president.

1046
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Speaker 21: Take young voters, you know, forign President Trump right now

1047
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Speaker 21: is point around fifty percent with young male voters under

1048
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Speaker 21: the age of thirty. So, look, the bottom line here

1049
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Speaker 21: is not just those independent undcided voters a look at.

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Speaker 21: It's those traditional Democratic voters. And if you're the Trump

1051
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Speaker 21: vans ticket, can you flip them into your column going

1052
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Speaker 21: into election day that don't really matter in places like Pennsylvania, Georgia,

1053
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Speaker 21: and North Carolina, those battleground states that could just be

1054
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Speaker 21: on the margins at the end of the day, giving

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Speaker 21: every vote you can obviously matter.

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Speaker 3: Matt, while we're talking about these two, I'm fascinated by

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Speaker 3: the relationship between Donald Trump and Jdvans. Regardless of how

1058
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Speaker 3: this I mean, regardless of how this election turns out,

1059
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Speaker 3: does that relationship last? Do you think?

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Speaker 21: Well? I think you know, Look, I think there's a

1061
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Speaker 21: reason why forearm President Trump selected Jade Vans, and the

1062
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Speaker 21: reality is this ticket. I think at the end of

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Speaker 21: the day, it's going to be focused in on win

1064
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Speaker 21: this election and then on the heels of that governing.

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Speaker 21: And I think for foreign President Trump, you know, if

1066
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Speaker 21: he is elected on day one, they're going to have

1067
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Speaker 21: many challenges, particularly relates to the economy, inflation, and border security.

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Speaker 21: And I think the expectation will be that he's got

1069
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Speaker 21: an administrations working together to really get this country moving

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Speaker 21: forward on those issues. So look, I think at the

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Speaker 21: end of the day, it's not just about winning this

1072
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Speaker 21: elections by governing. I'll leave to others to dissect, if

1073
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Speaker 21: you will, the relationships of these individuals. But the reality is,

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Speaker 21: I think that, like any ticket, it's not just about

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Speaker 21: winning the election, but if you are elected governing in

1076
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Speaker 21: effective fashion. It's not just the ticket and the administration,

1077
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Speaker 21: but whether or not Foreign Persident Trump or whoever wins

1078
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Speaker 21: this election, whether it's Vice Person Harris or Foreign Persident Trump,

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Speaker 21: what kind of a Congress will they have. That's why

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Speaker 21: there's a big focus in this race, not just on

1081
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Speaker 21: the essential election, but on the Senate and the House

1082
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Speaker 21: that's going to matter as well, either for Vice Person

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Speaker 21: Harris or Foreign Persident Trump if they're elected.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Matt, really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 4: Mate.

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Speaker 3: That's Matt Terrell, who's a managing partner of Firehouse Strategies,

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Speaker 3: Mico Rubio's former chief of Stuff. This is not the

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Speaker 3: food Stuff's merger that's been declined yestered up by the

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Speaker 3: Commas Commission. Sounds like it would be pushing the proverbial

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Speaker 3: uphell in court. There's some analysis that suggests the odds

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Speaker 3: are actually stacked in a legal battle in favor of

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Speaker 3: the Commas Mission, because the ComCom can only clear a

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Speaker 3: merger if it is satisfied it's not going to get

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Speaker 3: a It's not going to result in a substantial lessening

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Speaker 3: of competition in any market, right, so it has to

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00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: be satisfied that's not going to happen. Then they can

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Speaker 3: clear so the usual burden of proof is reversed in

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Speaker 3: this case favors the ComCom. Even if food Stuffs does

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Speaker 3: win in court, it will take years and years and

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Speaker 3: years before they're actually able to merge because the ComCom

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Speaker 3: would likely counter appeal, and so you'd be sinking all

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Speaker 3: this cost into something you aren't able to realize for years.

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Speaker 3: The suggestion here is that the threat of legal action

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Speaker 3: is mostly about food Stuff saving face, and the thing

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Speaker 3: is already over seventeen away from MAK.

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Speaker 1: The My Casting Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News talks at be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, some good news about the property market, and we're

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Speaker 3: trying to I'm going to be honest, you're trying to

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Speaker 3: find silver linings here. But the good news about the

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00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: property market today is that we have so much predictability

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Speaker 3: in the property market right now. We have more predictability

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Speaker 3: than we have had in twenty years. The down is

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Speaker 3: the reason that we have predictability is basically because nothing's

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Speaker 3: happened with prices for at least a couple of years,

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00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: it's been floating. According to real estate dot Co don

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Speaker 3: in Z's New Zealand Property report for last month for September,

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Speaker 3: the national average price has basically been hovering between eight

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Speaker 3: sixty thousand and eight ninety thousand for about two years.

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Speaker 3: January twenty three, it was let's say, round about eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty thousand dollars. Nearly two years later, we're

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Speaker 3: sitting at eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Not a

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Speaker 3: massive change. And if you go back as far as

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Speaker 3: you possibly can go, as far as records go back,

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Speaker 3: which is seventeen years back, we've never seen prices remain

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Speaker 3: this flat for this long. It's so flat it's breaking records,

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Speaker 3: So we'll take what we can out of that. Basically

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Speaker 3: means you know what you're dealing with when you go

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Speaker 3: to buy a house. It's twelve away from mate. Looks

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Speaker 3: like Wellington Mayor's Wellington's Mayor Tory Farno is in a

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Speaker 3: little bit of trouble next week. She has been obviously

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Speaker 3: getting the headlines lately for all of the stuff that's

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00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: been going on with, you know, the selling of the

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Speaker 3: car in order to pay the bills because she's broke

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Speaker 3: and allegedly and is she going to be able to

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Speaker 3: stitch this airport sales deal together? And that's basically what

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Speaker 3: it sounds like. She's not going to be able to

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Speaker 3: do Next year. Next yeah, sorry, next week. Next week

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Speaker 3: the council goes back to vote again on the sale

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Speaker 3: of the airport shares in Wellington and it is now

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Speaker 3: being reported that a majority of her counselors are going

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Speaker 3: to vote against it and stop the sale. And it

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Speaker 3: basically comes down to this one young counselor, Niko Winera,

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Speaker 3: who was originally opposed to the airport shares sale because

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Speaker 3: that's the Green he's a Greenie and that's the Green

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00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: Party's position. But then about two weeks ago he changed

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00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: his mind and then and then basically put the thing

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Speaker 3: back on and it was going to happen again. And

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00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: he changed his mind, he said, because it would lead

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00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: to the significant disenfranchisement of Armna Fenawa representatives. Do not

1151
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 3: ask me because I don't, I don't know, I can't

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00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: can't explain it. But now he's changed his mind again

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00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 3: and again don't ask me, because now I've lost interest

1154
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: in why he's changing his mind the whole time. But

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Speaker 3: he has points Simply is he's back on the side

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Speaker 3: of voting the thing down. But it's fascinating because behind

1157
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: the scenes, apparently there's been all of this horse trading

1158
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: going on in pressure and all of these left wing,

1159
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: left leaning councilors have been called into a room and

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00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: had individual meetings with the mayor and the two man

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Speaker 3: A Fena were representatives on the council, and it was

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00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: suggested that this dispute over the airport shares sale may

1163
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Speaker 3: threaten some sort of relationship with partnership that they've got

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Speaker 3: between Manafena and the council. Don't ask because I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why Manafenna have got a particular interest

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Speaker 3: in the airport. But anyway, this is the pressure that

1167
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: was brought to bear on the left leaning counselors and

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Speaker 3: as a result, it hasn't worked for some weird reason,

1169
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Speaker 3: God only knows why. Now the guy's flipped again. So

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Speaker 3: as it stands right now, and this thing is moving

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Speaker 3: quite fast, it would appear based on his vacillations on it,

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Speaker 3: this thing is moving at this stage, she's going to

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Speaker 3: lose this vote. That is really important for Torrifino because

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Speaker 3: losing the vote means she has to go back and

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Speaker 3: she has to do the council's long term plan. Again.

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Speaker 3: That is basic council business, right, If you can't do

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Speaker 3: your long term plan, what the hell are you actually

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00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: able to do as a council. So if they can't

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Speaker 3: do the long term plan, which is basic council business,

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00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: does it mean it triggers the government having to send

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00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: the adults and doesn't mean it is crowned monitor time.

1182
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: Keep an eye out on that Wednesday, because that's potentially

1183
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: D day for Torri when we have to get the

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Speaker 3: grown ups and with the long pants, get them in

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Speaker 3: to run the show. For this lot, we're clearly having

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Speaker 3: a difficult time. Ten away from Matey.

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Speaker 1: The Duplessylvon the my Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities,

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Speaker 1: US togs heead b.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, the White House is just holding a briefing

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Speaker 3: on the situation with Iran and the missile attack on Israel.

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Speaker 3: Here's the spokesperson, Jack Sullivan.

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Speaker 22: Today, Rin launched nearly two hundred ballistic missiles towards targets

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Speaker 22: in Israel. The United States military coordinated closely with the

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Speaker 22: Israeli defense forces to help defend Israel against this attack.

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Speaker 22: US naval destroyers joined Israeli air defense units in firing

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Speaker 22: interceptors to shoot down inbound missiles. We are still working

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Speaker 22: with the IDF and the authorities in Israel to assess

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Speaker 22: the impact of the attack, but at this time stress

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Speaker 22: At this time, we.

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Speaker 2: Do not know of any deaths in Israel.

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Speaker 22: We do not know of any damage to aircraft or

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Speaker 22: strategic military assets in Israel. In short, based on what

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Speaker 22: we know at this point, this attack appears to have

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Speaker 22: been defeated and in effective.

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Speaker 3: Six away from as give a d Ellen right, get

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Speaker 3: a load of this cancer detection dog seem to have

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Speaker 3: made a bit of a breakthrough in Dunedin. They've been

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Speaker 3: sniffing out the lab samples of bowl and overarian cancer

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Speaker 3: and they've actually had one hundred percent success rate and

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Speaker 3: with US now is Canine Medical Detection CEO Pauline Blomfeld.

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Speaker 16: Pauline, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Were you expecting one hundred percent or to that? Blow

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Speaker 3: your mind?

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Speaker 8: It always blows my mind when I see the dogs

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Speaker 8: working to be fair, they are all we expected a

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Speaker 8: really high result, particularly with Canine Hogan for ovarian cancer,

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Speaker 8: because he has been working exceptionally well and when he

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Speaker 8: goes into that test environment, we never know what they're

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Speaker 8: going to give us. But sparing in mind, these dogs

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Speaker 8: can check sort of twenty samples and twenty seconds with

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Speaker 8: that one hundred percent accuracy. Absolutely, it blows our mind.

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00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: Can you monetize us? Is there something that you can

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Speaker 3: roll out beyond the I mean, because these could just

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00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: be two very special dogs, right.

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Speaker 8: We've got eight very special dogs. But yes, we do

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Speaker 8: select our dogs by genetics. But I guess to get

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Speaker 8: back to your question about rolling out, it's a stage

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Speaker 8: that we work through. At the moment. Yes, these dogs

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Speaker 8: are working, they're clearly detecting the odor that's released from cancer,

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Speaker 8: but we're not replacing any current tests. Ultimately, this is

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Speaker 8: the holy grail for us. We are working with scientists

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Speaker 8: to actually try and identify those markers that the dogs

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Speaker 8: are picking up on, because at the moment, we don't

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Speaker 8: know what the dogs are smelling. We know that the

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Speaker 8: volatiles released from cancerous cells, but we don't know So

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Speaker 8: that's that's the key. That's the thing that we want

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Speaker 8: to work towards and that becomes a scalable.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I know dogs can smell a thousand million times

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00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 3: whatever better than us, right, but sure can we smell

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00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: cancer too?

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Speaker 8: I believe there's probably a few people. I mean, this

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Speaker 8: is where you know, the companies that create perfumes are

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00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 8: always seeking those individuals that have that exceptional olfactory ability.

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Speaker 8: But yes, the dogs, I mean they can. They can

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Speaker 8: detect one to two parts per trillion. So for us

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Speaker 8: humans at their equivalent to one teastpin of sugar and

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Speaker 8: two Olympic sized swimming puls you know, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know, how do.

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Speaker 3: You thank god we don't have that ability though a Pauline?

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: Because that would be awful to be torture walking around

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Speaker 3: sniffing everything. Pauline Blonfeld, Canine Medical Detection CEO. How amazing

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Speaker 3: is that here that you cannot say that about the

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Speaker 3: Wellington mayor She identifies as competent yet fair fair enough,

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Speaker 3: She'll identify its competent all the day they put the

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Speaker 3: Crown monitor in and then you see how she feels

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Speaker 3: about that. Hey, we've got spot politics Wednesday. Next, Ginny

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00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: is with us, Mark is with us. Let's chat about

1258
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: all of that stuff, including, of course Luckson's capital gains

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Speaker 3: tax Dodge news talks, edb.

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Speaker 2: Ye, stay, how aren't you?

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Speaker 3: I need you, old guy, HI need It's beautifuls it.

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Speaker 2: Big news fold opinions. Heather dup to see Allen on

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Speaker 2: the mic asking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Jaguar f pace cut from a different cloth, newstalks,

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Speaker 1: edb took around, turned.

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Speaker 12: Down a dad m street, fell into another.

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Speaker 23: Bar, I s got the rien, pulled up seat and drama,

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Speaker 23: we we harve all.

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Speaker 3: This is an English singer songwriter called Jake Bugg who

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Speaker 3: as actually onto. I think it's something like a sixth

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Speaker 3: album or something. It's called a modern day distraction. What's

1272
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: this chunlen but another drink?

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Speaker 11: Now, this one's called I wrote the book.

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Speaker 3: I wrote the book. That's all this guy draws on.

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01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: He can't decide where to stop with this list of

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Speaker 3: people that he draws on. So he's got the Beatles

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Speaker 3: in the next there's he's drawn on, David Bowie, Miles Cane,

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Speaker 3: Arctic Monkey's Oasis, Gilbert O'Sullivan bit of I'm driving a

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Speaker 3: little bit of Eggy pop mixed with the Arctic Monkeys

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Speaker 3: sort of making he's very sixties inspired. Do you see

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01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: the front cover of the album. He looks like a

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01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: modern day mod once described as the coolest boy in Britain.

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Speaker 3: I can sort of understand why. So easy listen check

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Speaker 3: that on on on a Saturday. Calm everybody down, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 3: Eight past eight Politics Wednesday with us. Now I've got

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Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell and Ginny Anderson. Hello you too.

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Speaker 24: Hey, good morning, Heather morning, good morning and congratulations here

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Speaker 24: here there, I'm being on the hot seat. That's awesome

1289
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Speaker 24: to see there.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to congratulate me on being pregnant, Ginny,

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Speaker 3: which feels like more of an achievement completely.

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Speaker 15: To be honest, I.

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Speaker 24: Didn't even know their congratulations and that you know.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Ginny, you've had babies an you

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 24: I've had toast.

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Speaker 3: Waking up at two thirty five days in a row

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Speaker 3: when you're pregnant is an absolute punished man. I've got

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Speaker 3: to tell you, it's awful.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: Have you and you've got all those big pillows that

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Speaker 24: you kind of align.

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Speaker 3: I've got to have pillows on either side, yeah, because

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Speaker 3: you've got to have a pillow on the front to

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Speaker 3: stabilize you, because that's that's like a it's like you

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Speaker 3: can't leave it forward now, But then you need a

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Speaker 3: pillow with the back so you don't roll on your

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Speaker 3: back and kill your baby over you know what I mean.

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Speaker 25: Hey, I've got to give a shout out to Barry

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Speaker 25: here for all the amazing support that he's given you.

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Speaker 2: Either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the amazing support you imagine is happening. Don't go there,

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Speaker 3: mark to be fair. To be fair, breakfasts are taken

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Speaker 3: care of, getting the other one up in the morning,

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Speaker 3: it's all fine. I get there. I get there after

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Speaker 3: half past nine, and it's the calmest situation I've ever

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Speaker 3: walked into. So I don't know what my influence on

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Speaker 3: the family is, but it's not a good one. Listen, Jenny,

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Speaker 3: on this business with Chris Luxon and his apartments sale,

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Speaker 3: Do you have a problem with the sale of the

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Speaker 3: apartment in the capital gains tax that he should or

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Speaker 3: should not have paid?

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Speaker 24: No, I mean it's a law. I mean there's a

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Speaker 24: law in place, and he's abided by the law. If

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Speaker 24: he's broken the law, and then maybe I think the

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Speaker 24: bit that's hard is that people doing it tough who

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Speaker 24: can't afford groceries or struggling to pay rent or get

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Speaker 24: stuff for kids going to school. I think it's a

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Speaker 24: bit hard for people to see that and sort of

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Speaker 24: make sense in their own lives.

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Speaker 2: But he's not.

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Speaker 24: He's not made a mistake or done anything wrong.

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Speaker 3: So he's a fabulously wealthy man. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is what fabulously wealthy people do. They sell their

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Speaker 3: places and make hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: Look, he's done everything right by the book, and I

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Speaker 24: think he can't be critical of someone if they haven't

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Speaker 24: broken the law.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 9: He was.

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Speaker 25: I just the thing is like Chris Lutson's he was

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Speaker 25: a key we kid that grew up in a household,

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Speaker 25: was moment there hard, he worked hard, he got himself educated.

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Speaker 25: He's done well internationally. We should celebrate that, you know,

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Speaker 25: we should be encouraging our kids to do the same things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I feel him, I feel a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't often feel sorry for politicians, but I'm

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Speaker 3: starting to feel a little bit sorry for Chris Luckson

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Speaker 3: because I feel like this guy can't copper break. We're

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Speaker 3: moan at him because he doesn't want to live in

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Speaker 3: Premierre house and he's drawing him down and allowance, and

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Speaker 3: then when he finally moves into Premier house, which is

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Speaker 3: going to be a punish in winter, then we moaned

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Speaker 3: him because he sold his apartment and made him look

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Speaker 3: money off.

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Speaker 25: I can tell you about Chris Lutson.

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Speaker 2: He loves this country.

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Speaker 25: He's working hard to make us a better country and

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Speaker 25: realize our potential, and he's fully focused on that and

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Speaker 25: he's just getting on with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jenny, listen, have you got any intel on us

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Speaker 3: for us? We's Dareby been flying to that she's racked

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Speaker 3: up the spill of thirty nine thousand and three months.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not in the multi party.

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Speaker 8: I'm not prived to that.

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Speaker 24: I can tell you what labor party happens, because if

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Speaker 24: anyone's in the top five, you've got to be ready

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Speaker 24: to answer some questions about what you you went and

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Speaker 24: what you did to the.

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Speaker 3: Media and media came to you, like with Willy Right.

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Speaker 3: So Willie racked up about twenty four k or something

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Speaker 3: in three months, and he fronted up, he was like,

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Speaker 3: this is where I spent it. I went to the

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Speaker 3: Oxford debate in London. Is that your rule, you have

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Speaker 3: to answer the questions.

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Speaker 8: No, you'd have to.

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Speaker 24: If you're going to do a trip of that size,

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Speaker 24: you would have a pre approach, so you go and

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Speaker 24: talk and say what you're going to do. But you know,

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Speaker 24: there's some people who live like far North and the

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Speaker 24: trips are expensive, so they typically wrack up a bit more,

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Speaker 24: or if they have kids or things like that that

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Speaker 24: they're bringing. But if you're out of the normal, you

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Speaker 24: need to go and say, look, hey, this thing happened

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Speaker 24: and I had to do it at the last minute.

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Speaker 24: That's the reason. Yeah, but otherwise no one wants to

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Speaker 24: have that conversation with their whip. And you're very careful

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Speaker 24: about booking things in advance so you get the best

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Speaker 24: rate in making sure you keep yourself well under the cap.

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Speaker 3: I can hear you huffing, that's why are you having.

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Speaker 25: I don't know, No, I was just just it's test

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Speaker 25: passed money and I just think there's got to be

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Speaker 25: a high level of transparency. I think every member of

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Speaker 25: Parliament needs to think very very carefully before they spend

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Speaker 25: even one dollar because it is tax pas money in

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Speaker 25: this an expectation that it is used wisely.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing right is that the last

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Speaker 3: I saw the Maori Party and Debbie weren't answering any

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Speaker 3: questions about this. That's not good enough though, because that's

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Speaker 3: actually what the rules are. Much. Do we not need

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Speaker 3: to change the rules so there is some transparency about

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Speaker 3: what gets funneled through parliamentary services?

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Speaker 25: Well, I do think. I do think there should just

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Speaker 25: be a natural high level of transparency with members of

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Speaker 25: Parliament in terms have been transparent where that money has

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Speaker 25: been spent, what they've done.

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Speaker 2: That's just the right thing to do.

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Speaker 25: If the rules need to be changed, obviously that's something

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Speaker 25: that you know, whoever deals with that needs to look at.

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Speaker 25: But just on a personal basis, they should be transparent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, also where is she going? Because she only

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Speaker 3: has to go to Wanganui, doesn't she from willing to

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Speaker 3: It's not even a flight, it's a drive.

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Speaker 25: Well, the only thing that I would say is that

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Speaker 25: MPs do travel around the country, particularly on recess weeks

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Speaker 25: in terms of their portfolio areas or you know, so

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Speaker 25: there will be some travel around the country for that,

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Speaker 25: but just be transparent around it, because show the meetings

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Speaker 25: that you've ended, what you've done.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is true. All right, We'll leave it. They

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Speaker 3: will come back after the break thirteen past eight with

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Speaker 3: Politics Wednesday, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It be right back with politics Wednesday. Make Mitchell, Ginny

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Speaker 3: Anderson just got a little update from I think it's

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Speaker 3: the Department of State over in the US that there

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Speaker 3: is there was no warning from Iran before this attack

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Speaker 3: on Israel overnight. Speaking of which, Mitch, what's up with

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Speaker 3: Damian O'Connor's tweet on you on on the Israel situation.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, well, I mean he obviously he deleted that, and

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Speaker 25: it showed poor judgment. I mean, I know Damien really well,

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Speaker 25: and I'm not sure what he was thinking there, but

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Speaker 25: it showed report judgment coming out and basically endorsing, you know,

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Speaker 25: the atrosses that we all saw on October seventh.

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Speaker 3: Because that's how you'd have to read it, right, That

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Speaker 3: sounded like exactly what he was saying. Jenny. This is

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Speaker 3: not the first time that a member of the Labor

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Speaker 3: Party has made a misstep like this. Do you guys

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Speaker 3: just need to not tweet about it?

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Speaker 24: I think look at an intent of areas like that,

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Speaker 24: you need to really carefully think through what you're going

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Speaker 24: to put out there. And I think Damien saw that

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Speaker 24: it wasn't the best idea and that's why he's removed it.

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Speaker 24: But it actually goes that he just feels incredibly strongly

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Speaker 24: that the government isn't doing enough in this space, and

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Speaker 24: I think that's that's why he did it. But I

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Speaker 24: think he's acknowledged it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I like I realized. I realized I'm taking this potentially

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Speaker 3: a step further than it has been taken. But the

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Speaker 3: problem is, Ginny I reckon because of the carry on

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Speaker 3: from the Labor Party in the UK with all the

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Speaker 3: anti semitism and stuff. Everybody's watching you guys to see

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Speaker 3: if you hold similar views, and so far Duncan and

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Speaker 3: Damien's tweets have kind of made sent a worrying signal.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 24: Look, I think there's some really strong feelings out there

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Speaker 24: in the public, and we hear those loud and clear

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Speaker 24: because people come to us with their concerns. It would

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Speaker 24: be one of the top is shoes. I get contacted

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Speaker 24: over social media or emails and people really feel it's

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Speaker 24: intolerable to see civilians continued to suffer so disproportionately, and

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Speaker 24: I think that's where that high passion comes from.

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Speaker 25: And I think that's where we and that's where we

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Speaker 25: have to be as as members of parliament, politicians responsible

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Speaker 25: in what we do. And you know, and none of

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Speaker 25: us want to see the current conflict that's going on

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Speaker 25: between Israel and Hamas and his blow and it's escalating.

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Speaker 25: It's a major concern and look of our Deputy Prime

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Speaker 25: Minister wants and Peter's doing the outstanding job on the

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Speaker 25: world stage in terms of advancing our thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: Mitch, listen. You you've been in conflict zones and stuff

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Speaker 3: in your time in past lives. Are you worried about

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Speaker 3: what you're seeing here?

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Speaker 25: I'm very worried about it, So I was up and Dubai. Recently,

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Speaker 25: I've been involved in trying to get aid into Gaza

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Speaker 25: because that's what I did in my old job, and

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Speaker 25: I am very concerned about it, and I think it's

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Speaker 25: bad for the Middle East. It's terrible for Israel, for

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Speaker 25: the Palestinians, and but for the region more region more broadly,

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Speaker 25: but of course you know global instability, So I am

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Speaker 25: very worried about it, and I'd like to see call

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Speaker 25: a head to prevail and leaders step forward and moves

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Speaker 25: towards getting back around. I know it's very difficult and

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Speaker 25: it's very challenging, but we've got to get it back

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Speaker 25: onto a pathway towards a two state solution and police.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Jenny, where do we go with the Dunedin

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Speaker 3: hospital situation? Tell me what you think happens from here.

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Speaker 24: It's really tough because there's such high feeling in public

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Speaker 24: there about wanting to have a resolution. In the numbers

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Speaker 24: we saw in the streets over the last few days

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Speaker 24: as representative that people want some solutions. So I think

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Speaker 24: there's a big ass for the government to not break

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Speaker 24: that promise and to continue on track to provide it

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Speaker 24: that the South is feeling really starved of love, and

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Speaker 24: that's on top of having job losses. Having this hospital

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Speaker 24: not go ahead as a real kick in the guards felt.

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Speaker 2: Well the hospital.

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Speaker 25: The hospital is going ahead, but again it's through awful

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Speaker 25: mismanagement of the prior government that you've had a massive

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Speaker 25: cost blow There's been a massive cost blow out, Genny.

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Speaker 25: I just about every single project that you guys haven't

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Speaker 25: delivered because you are meant to have started that in

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Speaker 25: twenty twenty and so the government absolutely exactly like the fairies.

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Speaker 25: And so this government's had to pivot. We've had to change.

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Speaker 25: We are going to be building a new de need hospital,

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Speaker 25: but we're going to have to be doing it within

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Speaker 25: a budget that actually the country can.

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Speaker 3: Afford, which I'll take that.

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Speaker 26: Heah, sorry, I was just going to say here that

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Speaker 26: there's got to become a point where are with this

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Speaker 26: government and Mark start taking responsibility for their own decisions.

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Speaker 26: Now they just keep it if they just keep blaming

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Speaker 26: the previous government. People see straight through there.

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Speaker 24: You know they gave two point nine billion dollars in

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Speaker 24: tax carts to landlords and this hospital rebuild would have

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Speaker 24: cost three So there's your money right there.

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Speaker 25: You don't know how to manage projects, you don't know

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 25: how to deliver project. You were and we're making decisions.

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Speaker 25: We're making decisions are responsible for us as a country,

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01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 25: and we're doing it within our means in terms of

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Speaker 25: what we can afford as a country, and we will

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Speaker 25: deliver it.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what much I think. I think both

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Speaker 3: of you guys have got a point, right. I know,

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01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 3: Labour absolutely mismanaged. But what is happening right now is

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 3: something completely differ which your government is going to wear

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01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: if you guys don't sort this out, which is the

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: choices that you're making right, Because you can't spend three

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 3: billion on a hospital, but you can spend two billion

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: on a highway in Wellington, and you can spend three

1534
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: billion on getting the tax settings right for landlords, and

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Speaker 3: that those choices are your problem. How do you defend that?

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 25: Well, it's easy. We're going to we're investing into the

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 25: infrastructure that we need as a country to get us

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Speaker 25: more productive, to create better lives in a high wage economy.

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Speaker 25: So yes, and we're going to deliver it the need

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Speaker 25: and hospital. We're going to deliver world class to need

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Speaker 25: in hospital. I think it's going to be one of

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Speaker 25: the most money spent on a hospital in the Southern Hemisphere. However,

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Speaker 25: it's going to be one that we as a country

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 25: can afford because unlike labor, who thinks you just go

1545
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 25: back and keep appropriating more money and borrowing more money,

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 25: we can't afford that as.

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Speaker 3: At So the gold standard has gone. No more gold

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Speaker 3: standard fairies, no more gold standard hospital. We just kind

1549
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 3: of cut a cloth built to walk.

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Speaker 25: Well, you can still have world class, gold standard infrastructure,

1551
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 25: but you can have it built at We're going to spend.

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: We're going to spend.

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Speaker 25: We're going to spend the money on it that we

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Speaker 25: can forward as a country. We can't continue to do

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Speaker 25: what Label was doing and boring assistantly and driving it.

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Speaker 24: You're going to skinlish and you're going to deliver more.

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Speaker 24: Those three things. Is that the Bermuda triangle that just

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01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 24: well people see through that.

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Speaker 25: Well, we're definitely going to deliver more because you guys

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 25: delivered nothing, so absolutely we're going to deliver more.

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Speaker 3: Guys say, great, great to chat to the pair of

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Speaker 3: you really appreciate It's Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson Politics, Wednesday

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Speaker 3: eight twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupice Ellen on them My Hosking Breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: Jaguar f Base News Talks NB.

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Speaker 3: Hey. Tim South is just announced he's standing down his

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 3: cap as the captain of the Test and Tom Lathan's

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 3: going to take over. Probably related to the fact that

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01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 3: we suck Suck got out for eighty eight on Saturday

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Speaker 3: and one innings. Ssh, it's got to be one of

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Speaker 3: the worst day. Heather. By the way, eight twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Why do you say, Chris Luxon's capital gain tax dodge?

1573
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: There's no capital gains tax, so there's no dodge. Heither,

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: way are you in your station going on about paying

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01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: a capital gains tax? It does not exist. I feel

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01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: as if you've missed a vital point here. I am

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 3: going on about the fact that other people are going

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01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: on about it, and now you're going on about the

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Speaker 3: fact that I'm going on about the fact that other

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Speaker 3: people are going on about it. You know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not I don't want him to pay the capital

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: gains tax because I don't want any of us to

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Speaker 3: pay the capital gains taxes. I was being sarcastic.

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Speaker 11: You're doing that air quotes air quote, but you've got

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Speaker 11: on radio. You have to do them really hard. Yeah, okay,

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01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 11: otherwise people would sometimes do miss thing.

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Speaker 3: These are some key learnings in the mornings for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Can we have more emphasis on your air quotes?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: I will, And you give me a more sarcasm on

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,440
Speaker 3: the text. I'm going to hit learnings at you repetitively,

1592
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 3: so you really hate the situation. Heither, if you stop

1593
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: eating potato when pregnant, you won't make water, which is

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 3: why you expand your waist. Now, Jan, I have spent

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: some time that text came in about fourteen minutes ago,

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01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: spent some time trying to understand what that is in English.

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Speaker 3: And I think what it is is that the reason

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Speaker 3: I feel can't leave it in bed forwards is because

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Speaker 3: my waist has expanded too much because I'm not eating

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Speaker 3: enough potato, and therefore I'm not wheeing enough. Let me

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 3: assure you wieing when your pregnant is not a problem

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 3: that happens. It's fine, and there's a lot of potato

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Speaker 3: going and but Jan, thank you very much, really appreciate it. Right,

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Speaker 3: news is coming up news talks, it'd be.

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

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01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 2: Can the duplicy Ellen on the mic asking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real estate, your local experts across residential, commercial,

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01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: and rural news talks.

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Speaker 3: Head be hither are old mate? Mark Mitchell? Always make

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01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 3: sure he never mentions the last government had to battle

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Speaker 3: the costly COVID pandemic and its aftermath, and prior to COVID,

1612
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: labor had the books in very good shape. It COVID

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 3: gave them the old smoke screen though, didn't it. They

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: were like, oh, I've got to behave ourselves, got to

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Speaker 3: behave ourselves. Got but whoa, there's a distraction. Go for girl. Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Speaking with man man who was behind that all was

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Speaker 3: Grant Robinson, got a little update for him on him

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 3: rather for you shortly, I just really quickly. News is

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01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: emerging that the case against P Diddy Sean Coombs is growing.

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: Apparently more than one hundred alleged victims are going to

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Speaker 3: sue him and others. I'm just guessing that's his posse.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who the others are, because you know,

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Speaker 3: rappers generally have a posse hanging around with him, are

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01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: going to sue them for rape, sexual assault, sexual exploitation.

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Speaker 3: He's already been indicted. He was indicted just a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago on three criminal accounts of a sexual abuse

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Speaker 3: of women and so on. So it's not looking good

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Speaker 3: for him at the moment. Twenty two away from nine

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Speaker 3: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 3: for New Zealand Business OSNY correspondents Steve Prices of US

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Speaker 3: with US Morning.

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Speaker 15: Steve, Good morning to you. Head up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, these pro Palestinian rallies are really getting you

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 3: guys worked up.

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Speaker 2: And not say they sure are.

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Speaker 15: There's a lot happened since last weekend since I took

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 15: to you on Monday, but I want to go to

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,879
Speaker 15: development overnight. There's a pro Palestinian rally planned for Sydney

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01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 15: on Monday October seven, which of course is the twelve

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Speaker 15: month anniversary of the terrorist attack by Hamas on Israel.

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Speaker 15: Now police have now applied hither that rally not be

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Speaker 15: allowed to go ahead. It's planned for the steps of

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Speaker 15: the Town Hall in Sydney, which is where all these

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01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 15: rallies take place. The police are going to fight a

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Speaker 15: request from the Palestinian.

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Speaker 2: Action Group to hold that gathering.

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Speaker 15: That's a year on, as I said, from when twelve

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Speaker 15: hundred people were killed in that attack. The court order

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Speaker 15: will also seek to prohibit a separate pro Palestini in March,

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01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 15: which is due in Sydney on Sunday this week. On

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Speaker 15: October six, the police said, look, we've negotiated with the protesters.

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01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 15: They did apply with a form one for each of

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Speaker 15: those gatherings, but we were quote not satisfied the protests

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01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 15: can proceed safely. The bit of history on this, of course,

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01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 15: is that these rallies have now fundamentally changed following the

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Speaker 15: Israeli attack that killed the leader of his Bala Israla.

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01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 15: Now on Sunday we saw protesters carrying flags of his

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01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 15: Bala through the streets of Sydney and Melbourne. To date,

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 15: no one has been prosecuted with our hate laws because

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01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 15: they were carrying those flags. But the Federal Police yesterday

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Speaker 15: announced that they're looking at six cases out of the

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Speaker 15: Melbourne march. So what I think we're seeing here is

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Speaker 15: political pressure on state and federal police forces Heather to say, look,

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 15: enough's enough here. Australians are not going to put up

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Speaker 15: with people marching around carrying flags and frame photographs of

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Speaker 15: a dead terrorist. So you're not going to have your march.

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Speaker 15: They just want to prevent Monday, particularly October seventh, turning

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Speaker 15: into a very nasty gathering in both the major capitals

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Speaker 15: in this country.

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Speaker 3: Steeve, I want to get to Quantisan just to take

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01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 3: But on this Dutton, the business between Dutton and the

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Speaker 3: ABC reporter, what do you make of this?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I watched that live yesterday. Peter Dunton was doing

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01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 15: a more press conference. He was in Queensland and a

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01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 15: reporter from the ABC bobbed up with a question about

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01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 15: She tried to frame a question about, well, how come

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Speaker 15: Hezbalah is nominated as a terrorist organized in this country

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 15: and you can't carry their flag? Excuse me, but the

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Speaker 15: Israeli flag is not banned. Well, Dunton turned on the

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01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 15: reporter immediately and said where are you from? What organization?

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01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 15: And she said, oh, well, I'm from the ABC. Then

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Speaker 15: he then proceeded to lecture her about the fact that

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 15: Israel was a democracy and that hez Balah and Hamas

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01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 15: are terrorist organizations. The ABC has been forced to clarify

1685
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 15: this overnight. They put out a sort of feeble response suggesting, oh, well,

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Speaker 15: you know that's not our position as an organization. The

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01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 15: problem for the reporter though it looked like she was

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01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 15: asking the question in you would have done many of

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01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 15: these conferences, she was asking the question off her phone,

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01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 15: and so Peter doesn't said, I presume you're getting that

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 15: question from Canberra now. She refused to respond them and

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Speaker 15: it was a pretty stupid way to pose the question,

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01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 15: quite frankly, and the agency is already under a lot

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01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 15: of pressure about how it is covering the Middle East conflict.

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, same problems that the BBC's got over in

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Speaker 3: the UKA about bias. Okay, now listen the situation with

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 3: Qatar wanted to buy into Vergin Quantus seems like they're

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 3: going to object to this here.

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, they'll go to the A Triple C and so

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01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 15: that they don't understeal to happen. How can they make

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 15: that argument, Well, Qatar last year applied to dump our

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01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,839
Speaker 15: whole bunch of more flights into the major capitals in Perth, Sydney,

1703
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 15: Melbourne and Brisbane and the Federal government said no, you

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01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 15: can't do that. We don't want more of your flights

1705
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Speaker 15: into this country. That was an odd decision by the

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Speaker 15: Federal Minister Katherine King, because most Australians are most Keywis

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01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 15: by the way, say oh well, competition's better. I mean,

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01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 15: the more flights, the chances of your seat being a

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01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 15: little cheaper is probably a good thing. And it came

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01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 15: at a time when international flights in and out of

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01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 15: Australia are particularly expensive. So Katar has gone to Virgin

1712
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 15: and said to Virgins, look, let's hook up. We'll buy

1713
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 15: twenty five percent of your company and then we can

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01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 15: fly these flights in under a virgin flight number and

1715
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 15: we can get around the government saying we couldn't do it. Well,

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Speaker 15: Kurtus obviously is arked up about this and said, hang

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Speaker 15: on a minute, these are not really virgin flights. I

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01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:29,480
Speaker 15: mean the Qatar flight. Qatar planes flown by Katari pilots

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01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 15: with Katari CRUs You can't pull that a virgin flight. Interestingly, though,

1720
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Speaker 15: I mean I came back from Greece on Sunday on

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Speaker 15: an Emirates flight which had an Emirates crew. I got

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Speaker 15: no idea where the flight crew were from. But that

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Speaker 15: was a Quantus co chair flight, So I'm not sure

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Speaker 15: how the objection works.

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Speaker 3: Busted, Steve, thank you very much, really appreciate it. Steve

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Speaker 3: price Osie corresponded, right, here's a little bit of the

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Speaker 3: exchange between Peter Dutton and the ABC reporter.

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Speaker 27: Well, I had ended up until this point at least

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Speaker 27: that the ABC supported the government's laws, and the government

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Speaker 27: has passed laws supported on a bipartisan basis, but not

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Speaker 27: by the ABC.

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Speaker 2: It seems.

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Speaker 27: In relation to the prescribing or the listing of a

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Speaker 27: terrorist organization HEZBLA under Australian law is a listed terrorist organization. Now,

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Speaker 27: if the ABC doesn't support that, they should be very

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Speaker 27: clear about it, because I think that's quite a departure.

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Speaker 27: But you asked me why why our country has listed

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Speaker 27: hes blah. They're a terrorist organization that they organized terrorist attacks.

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Speaker 27: And if that is not clear to the ABC, then

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Speaker 27: I think the ABC is in greater trouble.

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Speaker 12: And even I first imagine.

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Speaker 3: Quite remarkable that it has to be explained to someone

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01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: sixteen away from nine the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks that.

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Speaker 3: Be Hey, this is pretty cool if you're one of

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01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 3: those people who like to look up at the skies

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 3: and see cool things going on there. We've got a

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 3: comment coming here. And this comet hasn't been visible from

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01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 3: Earth since the Neanderthals were if I remember well, if I

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 3: remember correctly, makes it sound like I was around at

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01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 3: the time, and many people would say I am in Neanderthals,

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01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 3: So that's probably not that unexpected.

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01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 11: You've never had the gene testing to find out how

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01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 11: much in the nithole you actually are?

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01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 3: Have you know? Because you can?

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Speaker 11: Do you want to know? I don't want to know.

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01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 3: Do you know that it is people of European extraction

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01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 3: that are related to the Neanderthals. So be careful what

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01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 3: you wish for, Glenn. It may explain a lot anyway,

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: So comet. It hasn't been here since I do.

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Speaker 11: Have very long arms anyway, Sorry, carry on.

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Speaker 3: My tippoona the ones I fucking papa. Back to the Neanderthals,

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01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: since they were around about eighty thousand years ago, Comet

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01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 3: see slash twenty twenty three A three. They always named

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01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 3: them really jazzy names. It hasn't been around since then.

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: But it's going to be closest to Earth in about

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 3: ten days. Okay. The best time to see it is

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01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: actually when it's halfway between us and the sun, not

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01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: when it's the closest to us, but it's a halfway between,

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01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: which is next Wednesday, and you can go a couple

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01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: of days before a couple of days after, so basically

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01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: Monday to Friday. Go poke. Just have a look up

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01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 3: at the sky, Glenn. Don't look at the sky when

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01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 3: the sun is in the sky. Don't look at the sun. Okay,

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01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: nighttime might be visible to the naked eye, very rare.

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Speaker 11: Say that this is one of those once in a lifetime. Yeah,

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01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 11: you never see it again. Events that seem to happen

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01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 11: every sin.

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 3: Once in a species, right, but do we even know

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01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 3: if sapiens has seen it before? We don't know. We

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01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 3: don't know. So it's once in a species opportunity. It's

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01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. You're gonna you're gonna

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 3: go out there next week. You're gonna look, you're gonna go.

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01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 3: Is that because that's often what happens. It's just the

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01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 3: thing in the sky. You go, well, well then, and

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01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: then your grandchildren in like twenty years and not going

1788
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: to want to hear about the time that you saw

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01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: ce Bar twenty three whatever, going past. Its boring anyway. Listen,

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,480
Speaker 3: Grant robertson a cat. So what's going on at university

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01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 3: Otago University is that Otago University has just signaled that

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 3: it plans to expand into Queenstown because it sees Queenstown

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01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 3: is something of a technology hub and it wants to

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01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 3: get involved in the technology abs. So it's gone and

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01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 3: to go, and it's got to go into QT. Who

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01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 3: announced it, Grant? Because what's Grant doing? He's running the

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01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 3: university now, so he's standing there without a tie. He's

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01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 3: got his open collar shure. It's all relaxed. He's like, Yeah,

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01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 3: I'm down with my people in Duneda and I've got

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Speaker 3: this plan. I'm going to announce it. Here's the thing

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Speaker 3: to understand about what they've just announced. It's not going

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01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: to be cheap, is it. You expand into the most

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: expensive town in the country, you're gonna have to fork out.

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01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 3: And not only are they going to fork out for

1805
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 3: the buildings and like set up costs of a new

1806
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: campus blah blah blah, but they also indicated they are

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01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: wanting to build their own accommodation, presumably for their their

1808
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 3: staff and their students and god knows what else was there,

1809
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 3: you know, because they care and they don't want to

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: put exisit pressure on the existing shortage of houses. So

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01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: you know they're gonna leave a lot of money. What

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01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,839
Speaker 3: money are they gonna use? Otago posted a record deficit

1813
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 3: last year. It's not making any money. They need to

1814
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 3: cut their operating budget by about sixty million dollars plus

1815
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 3: last I saw, they've got massive debt problem of about

1816
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars. And as I say, Queens Down

1817
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 3: is the most expensive town in the country. It appears

1818
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: that Grant is learned nothing from what happened when he

1819
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 3: was the finance minister running the economy. Back then, he

1820
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: was like, no money, no problem, I'm gonna do it anyway.

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 3: He's running a Tiger university. No money, no problem, I'm

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01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: gonna do it anyway. So you know, a leopard doesn't

1823
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: change its spots, does it? Nine away from nine?

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01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 2: Ever?

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01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: Dullen on the mic, asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news.

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Speaker 3: Dog ZB It's okay here because Grant stole the money

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: tree heither. Maybe Grant took the money tree all the

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01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 3: way down to Dunedin. That's obviously what's going on. Hew h.

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Speaker 3: By the way, on the Neanderthals, neander Thal, theander Thal

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01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 3: Donna anyway, not haven't had a chance to check it

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01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 3: with them. All people apart from Africans, apparently have Neanderthal genes,

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01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: and that if you've been paying attention in NCAA Level

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 3: three biology you would know that, which I clearly wasn't

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01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: doing because I didn't. I actually think I think I

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01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 3: took it to level two. And anyway, I'm old enough

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 3: to have never done NCAA.

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Speaker 11: Thank God, everybody was related to everybody are we and

1838
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 11: what need is a great big melting pot?

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01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think yep. Well, if it's between that song

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01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: and biology, I think I go with that song. You

1841
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: must be right here. The ABC News is at least

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01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 3: not as bad as our media. Asking Lux and if

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01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: he's got sky TV, the mind boggles and it was like,

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01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 3: do you know that question was hilarious? Wasn't It was?

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01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 3: Are you enjoying the sky TV? It was kind of

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01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: one of those questions like none of us have sky

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01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 3: TV and are you enjoying? It's sort of like, are

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01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: you enjoying that you finally got the sky TV? I

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01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 3: feel like Chris Luckson's probably had sky TV most of

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01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 3: his life, just judging by the kind of money that

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01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: he was earning beforehand. But I don't know, maybe the

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01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 3: reporter doesn't have sky TV. Who knows reporter does work

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01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 3: for an alternative channel, So it's entirely possible that that

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01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 3: was driving that anyway, It's five away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist ware House great savings every day.

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Speaker 3: UK TV viewers a met that the moment are obsessed

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Speaker 3: with Philip Schofield's new show. Now You'll remember him because

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Speaker 3: he's the disgraced former morning host right who lost his

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 3: career after he was married, was revealed he had had

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Speaker 3: an affair with the young man. Everyone thought that was

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01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: the end of Philip, but he's actually popped back up

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01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 3: to do a solo show where he's been sent over

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01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 3: to a remote island in the Indian Ocean and it's

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01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 3: just him and his thoughts and the viewers of Glued.

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Speaker 23: I've been cast away on a desert island, completely on

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01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 23: my own. All I have is camera gear, and I

1867
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 23: can say whatever I want about whatever I want. It's

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01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 23: my chance to tell my side of my story. I

1869
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 23: know what I did was unwise, but is it enough

1870
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 23: to absolutely destroy something? People can be so fade with

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 23: view when it's all going well and suddenly utter betraying.

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01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: It's like he didn't know he was working in the

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 3: TV industry. Surprisingly liked voice. He's actually he's he's he

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01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 3: could sound like a like a quite like a woman

1875
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 3: who's consumed too much whiskey and cigarettes. He's kind of

1876
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 3: got that kind of it's slightly androgynous voice. Anyway. This

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,560
Speaker 3: has of course got the other Breakfast talking, including Scofield's

1878
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: former co host now one of his harshest critics, aiming home,

1879
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 3: he said he was thrown under the bus by his colleagues,

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01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 3: and even his daughter has come out and saying hopefully

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01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 3: I'm under the bus.

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Speaker 5: I'm very proud to have done it and protected children

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01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 5: people who are under edge, and people seem to be

1884
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 5: forgetting this, and they're making it like to be one situation,

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01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 5: one kiss, one relationship. But I think he is where

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01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 5: he deserves to be.

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01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: You can guarantee obviously that this is going to be

1888
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 3: all the talk for the entertainment guys for the next

1889
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. By the way, apparently it's pronounced tall

1890
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 3: in Neander tal at the end silent h. And I

1891
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm being.

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01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 11: Drapn it's going to be taal at least?

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01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 3: Surely are are we being trolled so that we turn

1894
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 3: into that guy who says it wrong on air forever

1895
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 3: from here on?

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01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 11: And I mean, of course they didn't pronounce it at all,

1897
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 11: because did they have actual could they talk spoken?

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01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: I think we'll decide for them. Actually, thank you for that, Glenn.

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01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 3: I think we've solved that one. Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 3: your day, be back with you tomorrow.

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Speaker 21: Mike.

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01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Of course, is back on Monday. Used talks it bok

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01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,000
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