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Speaker 1: Here the water hypocrite you art was in half an

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Speaker 1: hour ago that you were telling Barry not to get

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Speaker 1: all worked up about something that hadn't happened. And here

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Speaker 1: you are saying Trump is going to stop the Ukraine war.

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Speaker 1: Pot kettle black, you know that, Tony. Thank you. Trump

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Speaker 1: has said that he's going to stop the Ukraine war.

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Speaker 1: I happen to think that may be a good thing.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not getting worked up. I was getting worked

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Speaker 1: up at Jimmy Kimmel getting worked up. Actually, thanks very much, mate.

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Speaker 1: Pay attention thirteen away from seven Gavin Gray are UK

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Speaker 1: correspondences with me Elogevin.

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Speaker 2: Marney got a good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you who might be getting worked up as

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Speaker 1: European leaders though.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yes very much so. They are currently meeting in

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Speaker 2: Hungary and top of the agenda is going to be

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Speaker 2: exactly what Donald Trump's reelection is going to mean for them,

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Speaker 2: because last time he was in power, he wasn't particularly

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Speaker 2: keen on Europe, said they needed to pay their way more.

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Speaker 2: And of course all this talk of a trade tariff's

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Speaker 2: coming on is going to make life more and more difficult.

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Speaker 2: But I think the really thing that's bothering Europe is

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Speaker 2: going to be his stance on Ukraine. He's already said

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Speaker 2: he will end the war within a short time of

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Speaker 2: taking power, but he's not said how many think he's

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Speaker 2: going to either really turn the tap off on funding

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Speaker 2: to Ukraine, either completely off or really toned down that

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Speaker 2: financial aid, the military aid to Ukraine. And if that happens, well,

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Speaker 2: is Europe going to pick up the slack. There's certainly

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Speaker 2: talk of them doing that, but America has been the

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Speaker 2: largest single donor to Ukraine by far. The UK has

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Speaker 2: said it's going to continue supporting Ukraine, but in truth,

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Speaker 2: if Europe doesn't and doesn't do it to a large extent,

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Speaker 2: filling that gap that might be left, then many feel

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Speaker 2: Ukraine could be left out in the cold. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to have to wait to see to that. They're

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Speaker 2: going to have to put their money where their mouth is,

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Speaker 2: to use an old expression, I mean, and that is

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Speaker 2: something Europeans are slow to do.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely, Gevin. And the amount of money that they're

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Speaker 1: pumped in is like sixty four billion US dollars right,

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Speaker 1: there's a huge amount of money for anybody else to play.

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Speaker 1: Tell me something, because I had a conversation with the

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Speaker 1: German about this recently and said, well, the most likely

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Speaker 1: outcome is that he basically forces Vladimir Zelenski, you know,

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Speaker 1: if it comes to this to super peace and give

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Speaker 1: up some land. And the Germans said to me, Europe

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Speaker 1: will be so devastated by that because it will bring

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Speaker 1: Russia closer and embolden them.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, it will. And also I

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Speaker 2: think it looks bad on the EU. They've made overtones

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Speaker 2: to Ukraine that Ukraine could perhaps one day join in

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Speaker 2: the not too distant future ex and then all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden they'll tell them back on them, owing to money.

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Speaker 2: And that's what this comes down to. And in the

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Speaker 2: past Europe has said all these wonderful words, and if

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Speaker 2: they're not not going to stand up and do that

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Speaker 2: and back them, I think it'll really show the Block

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Speaker 2: down a bit. And frankly, I think Donald Trump doesn't

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Speaker 2: expect them to fill the gap, and that too will

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Speaker 2: weaken the Block's reputation around the world, which I think

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Speaker 2: he would quite enjoy seeing. He thinks that Europe does

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Speaker 2: not pay its work. He does think many in European,

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Speaker 2: many European countries do not pay their way into NATO. Sufficiently,

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Speaker 2: and he says that frankly, he's fed up of the

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Speaker 2: US filling that gap.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now listen, I'm Bector, You're part of the world.

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Speaker 1: Why was this Labor MP punching the sky?

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Speaker 2: A very good question. So this MP is from Cheshire

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Speaker 2: in the northwest of England and Mike Ainsbury is his name.

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Speaker 2: He's been suspended from the Labor Party, that's the party

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Speaker 2: of government at the moment. And we are now expecting

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Speaker 2: a court case because police are saying they've charged a

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Speaker 2: fifty five year old man and he is to appear

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Speaker 2: in court formally at a later date. There are reports

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Speaker 2: that he assaulted a forty five year old man in Frodsham,

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Speaker 2: which is a small village not far from Liverpool, and

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Speaker 2: that happened just after a quarter to three on Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: the twenty sixth of October. There is video CCTV from

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Speaker 2: nearby shops as well, which show a man standing in

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Speaker 2: the road waiting for a taxi when another man strikes

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Speaker 2: him and he falls backwards strikes him by punching him. Now,

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Speaker 2: obviously this is are all allegations that it is my Gamesbury.

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Speaker 2: He has said that he's going to be looking at

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Speaker 2: this under court, but he volunteered to be interviewed under

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Speaker 2: a police caution after reports of an assault on the

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Speaker 2: main street at Froudham and Cheshire Police say they are

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Speaker 2: investigating that complaint and have sent it up to the

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Speaker 2: Crown Prosecution Service in for it to go to court.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting, hey, Gevin, thanks very much. Keep us posted

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Speaker 1: on that. That sounds fascinating. That's Kevin Gray, our UK correspondent.

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