1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Barry So, Senior political correspondence with US Ay Barry, Good afternoon. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: I guess that you think that Kamala Harris will debate. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Well, there's no guess because you know that. I think 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: you know the fact of the matter is that the 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: big question and the lead up to this debate was 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: was Carmla Harris going to be a match for Donald Trump? 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: That was the question. She was more than a match. 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: She flawed the man. The man was like a Joe Biden, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: sitting there grumpy and almost looking as though he was 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: going to sleep at times, probably inwardly fuming. Though the 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: moderators I heard Dan mention about them pushing back against Trump, 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: but they were being sensible because he was talking so 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: much rubbish that was clearly disputable, and they on a 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: couple of occasions disputed what he had said before moving 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: to Carmala Harris. But look, here's bits of the debate 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: edited by me phirly heavily of. 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Course vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: pick by the way, for our country because he is 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: says execution after birth. It's an execution. No longer abortion 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: because the baby is born is okay, And that's not 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: okay with me. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 4: There is no state in this country where it is 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 4: legal to kill a baby after it's born, not a 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: vice president. 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Want to get your response to President Trump. 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: of lies. And that's not actually a surprising fact. 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in, 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: They're eating the cats, they're eating the pets of the 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: people that live there. 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: Talk about extreme I. 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: Probably took a bullet to the head because of the 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: things that they say about me. They talk about democracy, 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: I'm a threat to democracy. 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: What is important is that there is a president who 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: people up and not beating people down and name calling. 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis. She went out 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: and raised money to get him out of jail. She 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens that are 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: in prison. 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: this election is not to his liking. Let's turn the 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: page on this, Let's not go back. Let's chart a 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: course for the future. 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: Here here to that, okay. 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean what we were hoping for was some political analysis. 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: That's why you can a vote. 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: Of course I don't have a vote, but honestly, you 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: could have picked out so many more stupid things that 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: Trump said. I mean, I think he's lost it. And 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: you think Joe Biden in the last debate was bad, 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump was equally as bad, if not worse. 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: Which is going for you actually, because you've been a 60 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: long time Donald Trump. 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: You know, because I Trump. I followed Trump in his 62 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 2: first campaign for the White House against Hillary Clinton, and 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: I've got to say, you know, I thought that Hillary 64 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: Clinton would beat him because I thought nobody could vote 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: a man that has thoughts like Donald Trump and as 66 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: an out and out misogynist and somebody that you wouldn't 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: have around your dinner table. But they did. They voted 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: him in, and the Americans were so loyal to him. 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: When I challenged a few of them, the terrorists who 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: were back here in New Zealand, I got my head 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: bitten off that Donald Trump was just amazing. Well, I'm sorry, 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: you know from where I said. I look at politics, 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: and I have done for many years. I have never 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: seen a person like Trump running for such an important offs. 75 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Have you managed to look at the Treaty Principal's Bill, 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: the ones that have been agreed to the Treaty principles? 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, I haven't looked at the bill, but 78 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: I heard you mentioning I've got audio, but I won't 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: play it because we're probably running out of time. But 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: because it came up in the House today, and David Seema, 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: you'll be aware of the poll that was taken earlier 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: this year. It was a Curier poll that showed to 83 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: sixty two percent of labor supporters were in favor of 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: the Treaty Principal's Bill. Yeah, and sixty six percent of 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: national were in favor. So I was waiving that about 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: today when he was being questioned by Willie Jackson. But 87 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: look that six months select committee time. That can be 88 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: cut back quite easily because the National Party will chair 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: the committee that considers it. But if they've run out 90 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: of submissions, it's going to be very hard for them 91 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: to extend it, you're going to run out of well, 92 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: you know, somebody very senior in Parliament told me the 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: other day that he thought probably four months. But even 94 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: at four months. 95 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: It's a long time. 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: It'll go over the go over White Tangy weekend and 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 2: that'll you know, there'll be problems up at White Tangy 98 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: because of it. So it certain he is causing a 99 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: few problems, there's no doubt about that. 100 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: But I'm fascinated that he's managed to get this one 101 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: over the line for that long. 102 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: From the nets, well, you know, it's it's form when 103 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: a bill is referred to a select committee. Six months. 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: Six months is the time that's written. But you know 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: it can be sure, it can be longer. But you 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: know they're giving him what is expected of a bill 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: when it goes to a select committee. 108 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: Barry, thank you very much, really appreciate it, very so 109 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: for senior political correspondent. 110 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy allan Drive, listen live to 111 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 2: news talks. 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 113 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: on iHeartRadio.