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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: What a jam, What a jam? My goodness. Toto did

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Speaker 3: it right. They did it. They found just the right

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Speaker 3: blend of groove and melody to hit that kind of

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Speaker 3: glorious sweet spot. They didn't crack under pressure. They never

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Speaker 3: swayed away from their high gloss sound as the world

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Speaker 3: turned to heavier rock and roll, and next month, Toto

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Speaker 3: are coming to New Zealand touring shores and ahead of

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Speaker 3: their tour, Joe Williams from Toto is with us this morning. Kyodo,

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Off into the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. How's everybody doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone is doing incredibly well, all the better for

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Speaker 3: having you with us this morning. So thank you very

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Speaker 3: much for your time. How do you how do you

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Speaker 3: distinguish the success that Toto still enjoys all these years

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Speaker 3: since you first formed? Why is Toto still so popular?

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Speaker 2: Do you think? Well?

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Speaker 4: I think it's a great deal of it has to

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Speaker 4: do with these the songs, the big hit songs. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Africa alone, just as a as a song has given

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Speaker 4: us life, you know, beyond perhaps may have been you know,

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Speaker 4: who knows, but you know I think that some of

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Speaker 4: these songs are timeless, and as people go back searching

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Speaker 4: through you know, music from the eighties, seventies and eighties

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Speaker 2: You know. I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the other the other part, I think it's just

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Speaker 4: it's just that the band has never really stopped.

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Speaker 2: Touring over all of these years. And so you know,

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Speaker 2: who knows.

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Speaker 3: You say that Africa has given you life? What do

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Speaker 3: you mean by that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you just you know, younger and younger

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Speaker 4: people are finding it and and I suppose a few

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Speaker 4: of the different artists who have re recorded it or

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Speaker 4: used pieces of it or something, or it's shown up

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Speaker 4: in a particular TV series or a movie something like that,

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Speaker 4: and and then it still holds up after all the

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Speaker 4: all of these years, and so as people find it,

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Speaker 4: it breathes new life into the into the band.

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Speaker 3: It's It's amazing, isn't it that that kind of sees

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Speaker 3: something about human beings as well, that that a song

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Speaker 3: decades ago, and yet someone introduced to it today will

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Speaker 3: still have the same reaction. We'll still find it really

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Speaker 3: bad condition. And I suppose it speaks to the speaks

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Speaker 3: to the magic of that song.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, in my view, the production of

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Speaker 4: was done on a keyboard. That that really you can

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Speaker 4: And then if you just think about the production of

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Speaker 4: the whole song after that, it still holds up today.

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Speaker 2: A lot of music doesn't, you know, play or seems.

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Speaker 4: Corny or odd or maybe the sonically it doesn't sound

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Speaker 4: It's a kind of a very smooth feel feeling and

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Speaker 4: uh and talk about earworms. I think that that that

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Speaker 4: the chorus of that song, and also just some of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember the writing and recording process for Africa?

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Speaker 4: I don't, but uh, you know, some of the other

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Speaker 2: Would be as big as it you can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, isn't it. Like you just just think,

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Speaker 3: I imagine if it hadn't been included, like your life

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Jack Tame, I'm speaking with Joe Williams

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Speaker 3: from Toto ahead of their three New Zealand shows. So, Joe,

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Speaker 3: you have all sorts of different musical and artistic pursuits.

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Speaker 3: I know you've recorded heaps as a solo artist, and

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Speaker 3: Are there certain things that you get more joy from

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Speaker 4: Well, certainly that's It's been a while since that I've

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Speaker 4: Just I've been busy back on the road for sixteen fifteen,

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Speaker 4: almost sixteen years, and so I've been fortunate to have

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Speaker 4: period of reinvention and uh, you met my wife and

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Speaker 4: how to do a different thing, you know, acquired a

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Speaker 4: you know, pop music or rock music or whatever whatever

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Speaker 2: But then, you know, after fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Years or so, I started to feel a little bit

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Speaker 4: bit of a burnout with the with the composing for

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Speaker 4: for producers and directors, it's it's an exhausting process, and

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Speaker 2: It takes a strong person to do that and handle that.

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Speaker 4: My hats are always off to my father because he's

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Speaker 4: always done such a great job with that. But then

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Speaker 2: End, back came the touring full time. Like you say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: And now you know, my kids are grown, I have

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Speaker 4: better than they than they ever have really in terms

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, we still have a good hunger

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Speaker 4: show that we're doing now that we're going to be doing.

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Speaker 2: This whole year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell us about the show and what what can

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Speaker 2: Well, we have a great set. Uh. You know.

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Speaker 4: One of the lovely things about the band is that

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Speaker 4: there's a very very deep, deep barrel of wonderful songs

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Speaker 4: But uh uh, but and and then there's a slew

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Speaker 4: that maybe people people have I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 2: Is a it's a stage of really great musicians. You know.

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Speaker 4: One one of the things about this band is that

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Speaker 4: So you'll have that. You'll hear great singing. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: before we let you go, Joe, there was one other

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Speaker 3: of like amazing enduring kind of cultural performances. You played

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Speaker 3: Simba and The Lion King. Did did you have any

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Speaker 4: Well, I certainly hoped it would, you know. I remember

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Speaker 2: For very long, and uh, my part was was going

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Speaker 4: Thankfully, my wife was with me, and she was in

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Speaker 4: had a couple of lines in that song, and my

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Speaker 4: Ended up I ended up in that film in a

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Speaker 2: And still that's another one that kind of holds up.

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Speaker 3: It certainly does it certainly does. I think you've got

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Speaker 3: a neck of involved somehow. Joe, Hey, look, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for your time. We really appreciate it, and

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Speaker 3: I know so many Kiwi fans are just delighted that

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Speaker 3: you're going to be playing here soon. So travel safely

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Speaker 3: and we look forward to seeing you on our shores.

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Speaker 2: Great, my pleasure. We'll see you, Derek.

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Speaker 3: That is Joe Williams from Toto. So Toto, We're coming

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Speaker 3: to Auckland, Wellington and christ Church next month. Get in quick,

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Speaker 3: especially if you want to get to that christ Church show,

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 3: He does. Joe has just said like a connection with

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Speaker 3: just has a connection with so many amazing kind of

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Speaker 3: catchy songs. Do you know what, though controversially I actually

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Speaker 3: reckon hold the line as a better song than Africa

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