WEBVTT - Lesleigh Smith: Tips to reduce hearing loss 0:00:05.801 --> 0:00:09.441 You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talks 0:00:09.521 --> 0:00:11.321 EDB and I. 0:00:11.241 --> 0:00:14.841 Heard him seeing nothing's ever promised tomorrow the day when 0:00:14.841 --> 0:00:17.801 a shot like timmisa hard away. So this is in 0:00:17.841 --> 0:00:20.481 the name of love. Like Bribers say before you asked 0:00:20.521 --> 0:00:22.681 me to go get a job today, can I at 0:00:22.801 --> 0:00:25.041 least get a raised on a menu the wage? And 0:00:25.121 --> 0:00:28.041 I know the government and Minister Age, so guess we 0:00:28.201 --> 0:00:31.841 just pray like the Minister c I Bob throwing some 0:00:31.921 --> 0:00:34.161 hot cars and things we see on the screen. 0:00:34.601 --> 0:00:37.161 And welcome back to the Weekend Collective. I'm Tim Beverage 0:00:37.201 --> 0:00:39.761 and it's now time we want your cause. By the way, 0:00:39.841 --> 0:00:42.401 I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty text nine 0:00:42.561 --> 0:00:45.001 and it's time for the Health Hub and joining us, 0:00:45.001 --> 0:00:48.081 we're going to talk about hearing. And she is Leslie Smith, 0:00:48.081 --> 0:00:52.001 ahead of audiology at Tritton Hearing and Leslie, good afternoon, 0:00:52.041 --> 0:00:55.401 Good afternoon. Just get you to just fold your microphone 0:00:55.441 --> 0:00:57.361 down a bit and just come a bit close to 0:00:57.441 --> 0:01:00.241 it as a chatting that's great. How are you? 0:01:00.441 --> 0:01:00.841 Yeah? Good? 0:01:00.841 --> 0:01:01.721 Thanks? How are you? 0:01:01.801 --> 0:01:05.481 Oh? Pretty good? Now hearing wise, I have a chat 0:01:05.481 --> 0:01:07.121 of it, but now we want your calls on hearing 0:01:07.281 --> 0:01:09.881 any of the questions you've got about whether you're concerned 0:01:09.921 --> 0:01:13.241 about hearing loss, or whether you are wondering whether you 0:01:13.281 --> 0:01:15.841 need a hearing aid or someone else, or you want 0:01:15.881 --> 0:01:18.881 information about what's the best way to prevent hearing loss. 0:01:19.761 --> 0:01:21.721 But also if you are thinking you're going to need 0:01:22.121 --> 0:01:24.361 a hearing aid, what's sort of what you would expect 0:01:24.401 --> 0:01:26.841 at a typical a point where were basically everything about 0:01:26.841 --> 0:01:29.401 hearing and hearing loss. And I think I actually think 0:01:29.441 --> 0:01:33.081 the first way to start, I'm quite hot. I'm hot 0:01:33.081 --> 0:01:36.801 at the moment on this topic. Fairly only because sometimes 0:01:36.801 --> 0:01:40.121 when I come into the studio Leslie and I plug 0:01:40.121 --> 0:01:43.401 in my headphones and they I can tell a person 0:01:43.681 --> 0:01:46.081 who's just used them. I actually do say, gosh, I 0:01:46.081 --> 0:01:48.081 think someone's got some hearing loss because they're quite loud. 0:01:48.081 --> 0:01:50.721 But it's quite an insidious thing, isn't it that you 0:01:50.761 --> 0:01:53.801 don't realize the changes that are going on in your 0:01:53.801 --> 0:01:56.401 hearing because your brain is constantly adapting. 0:01:56.961 --> 0:02:00.761 Yeah, yeah, right, you're right. It's a bit of a 0:02:00.841 --> 0:02:04.001 chicky thing because noise damage is not just how loud 0:02:04.041 --> 0:02:06.441 it is, it's how long you're exposed. And so it 0:02:06.481 --> 0:02:08.881 could be that the volumes started off at a comfortable 0:02:08.961 --> 0:02:11.401 level for those people, but then over the hours they've 0:02:11.481 --> 0:02:14.601 slowly crept up the volume just to try to hear 0:02:14.681 --> 0:02:18.241 over the background noise. Perhaps so, and it sneaks up 0:02:18.241 --> 0:02:20.521 on you because you know they might not have noticed 0:02:20.521 --> 0:02:22.961 it in a quiet place, but when they go to 0:02:23.121 --> 0:02:26.041 background noise or restaurants or cafes that you know, you 0:02:26.121 --> 0:02:28.721 might find you if it's someone in your family, you 0:02:28.801 --> 0:02:31.041 might find that they're just watching a little bit more, 0:02:31.241 --> 0:02:34.961 or they're laughing a little bit slower to the jokes, or. 0:02:34.961 --> 0:02:37.681 Being a wallflower, because the brain does have quite an 0:02:37.681 --> 0:02:42.201 amazing ability to compensate. I guess you start looking for 0:02:42.241 --> 0:02:45.601 lip movement just to help confirm what you think you're 0:02:45.601 --> 0:02:46.561 hearing exactly. 0:02:46.601 --> 0:02:48.681 You start watching a little bit more, and you have 0:02:48.761 --> 0:02:51.281 your eyes and I guess you're the front part of 0:02:51.321 --> 0:02:54.041 your brain trying to figure out patterns and to fill 0:02:54.081 --> 0:02:56.201 in the gaps. So you end up working a bit harder. 0:02:56.241 --> 0:02:59.241 So at the end of the day you've deciphered the 0:02:59.281 --> 0:03:00.881 message the whole day long, so you might just be 0:03:00.881 --> 0:03:01.841 a little bit more tired. 0:03:02.081 --> 0:03:06.481 One of the biggest dangers to or I don't know, 0:03:06.521 --> 0:03:09.161 want to use dramatic language because then the wood that 0:03:09.161 --> 0:03:12.561 came into my mouth was into my brain. Was hearing threats. 0:03:13.081 --> 0:03:16.601 What are the biggest threats to people's hearing? 0:03:16.841 --> 0:03:17.721 The first signs? 0:03:18.001 --> 0:03:19.881 I know, what are the causes? You know that the 0:03:19.921 --> 0:03:22.361 major causes that the most troublesome causes. 0:03:23.001 --> 0:03:26.681 Yeah, I'd say noise damage would be one. Another one 0:03:26.921 --> 0:03:31.321 is any constriction to your blood flow. Actually, so diabetes, 0:03:31.401 --> 0:03:35.081 heart disease. Anything that restricts your circulation can affect your ears. 0:03:35.441 --> 0:03:37.641 So we all tend to lose our hearing a little 0:03:37.681 --> 0:03:40.601 bit over age as well, So just the hair cells 0:03:40.601 --> 0:03:43.361 in your ears, not the hair like on your head, 0:03:43.361 --> 0:03:45.321 but little hair cells. When the sound comes in, they 0:03:45.361 --> 0:03:47.601 bend over and that's what sends the signal to the brain. 0:03:47.721 --> 0:03:50.401 So they just tend to get a little bit aged, 0:03:50.601 --> 0:03:51.721 and that works so well. 0:03:51.761 --> 0:03:53.161 Can you do anything to sort of give them a 0:03:53.161 --> 0:03:59.161 bit of a shampoo condition? I mean I always ask 0:03:59.281 --> 0:04:02.001 dumb questions because sometimes people will say, funnily enough, that's 0:04:02.041 --> 0:04:03.961 not a dumb question because of X, Y and Z 0:04:04.161 --> 0:04:04.641 and science. 0:04:04.681 --> 0:04:09.481 But anything that keeps your cardiovascular health as good as 0:04:09.481 --> 0:04:10.841 it can be is the best thing you can do 0:04:10.921 --> 0:04:12.081 to prevent any aging. 0:04:13.161 --> 0:04:16.281 Where are those how far into your ear are those. 0:04:16.121 --> 0:04:19.961 Little behind the ear drum and behind the three little 0:04:20.001 --> 0:04:22.921 bones of hearing. It's the inner ear, which is shaped 0:04:22.961 --> 0:04:26.521 like a snail and has billions of little wee hair 0:04:26.601 --> 0:04:29.361 cells standing up. And as the sound wave goes through, 0:04:29.361 --> 0:04:30.881 so think of it like a wave on the ocean, 0:04:31.201 --> 0:04:34.001 it bends over those little hairs and off it sends 0:04:34.001 --> 0:04:34.841 the signal to the brain. 0:04:35.041 --> 0:04:37.721 So intuitively, I would imagine that there would be something 0:04:37.721 --> 0:04:40.961 because if their physical structure and organic physical structure. But 0:04:41.001 --> 0:04:43.761 I'm making this up as a go along. Is there 0:04:43.801 --> 0:04:46.881 any work Is there any work going on with regards 0:04:46.921 --> 0:04:49.761 to restoring people whose heirs have just gone that's the 0:04:49.841 --> 0:04:51.241 online flat for the rest of the day. 0:04:51.321 --> 0:04:51.521 Yes. 0:04:51.601 --> 0:04:56.761 Yeah, Actually they've developed a drug that you can take 0:04:56.841 --> 0:05:00.441 to regrow those hair cells. The problem is they haven't 0:05:00.441 --> 0:05:03.281 figured out how to stop that growth, so there were 0:05:03.321 --> 0:05:06.081 halfway there. And then there's also so a genetic kind 0:05:06.081 --> 0:05:08.081 of hearing loss, which is similar to what I have, 0:05:08.201 --> 0:05:11.241 and people are born without a certain protein and and 0:05:11.681 --> 0:05:15.401 so there's there's something in the actual DNA that's that's missing. 0:05:15.881 --> 0:05:19.441 And with the recent COVID epidemic and the vaccines using 0:05:19.481 --> 0:05:23.761 a virus, you know, to transmit it. They've actually put 0:05:23.921 --> 0:05:26.921 this gene therapy into the virus and injected into the 0:05:26.961 --> 0:05:30.601 ear and they've restored when baby's hearing in the UK 0:05:30.721 --> 0:05:34.721 so far, in particular hearing loss. Yeah, she had her 0:05:34.761 --> 0:05:38.921 sister has double coclear implants, and she's had this gene 0:05:38.921 --> 0:05:42.161 therapy using this virus as a vehicle to get it 0:05:42.201 --> 0:05:46.041 into the ear, and her hearing is miraculously normal. It's 0:05:46.201 --> 0:05:47.561 it's absolutely phenomenal. 0:05:47.681 --> 0:05:51.041 Oh my goodness, is that was she profoundly deaf at 0:05:51.081 --> 0:05:51.361 the time? 0:05:51.721 --> 0:05:51.921 Yeah? 0:05:52.001 --> 0:05:52.681 Yeah, profoundly? 0:05:52.921 --> 0:05:54.801 What can you tell her? A babies profoundly deaf because 0:05:54.961 --> 0:05:56.681 by whether they were react because you can't say, hey, 0:05:56.721 --> 0:05:57.201 can you hear this? 0:05:58.801 --> 0:06:02.441 I'm going to tell you something fascinating. Your eyes absorbed 0:06:02.521 --> 0:06:05.321 light and that's what lets you see your ears. Right, 0:06:05.481 --> 0:06:07.561 sound goes in, but you may not know that your 0:06:07.601 --> 0:06:10.401 ear produces their tiny little echo of sound back out 0:06:10.401 --> 0:06:13.241 of your ear. So they test babies by putting his 0:06:13.321 --> 0:06:16.241 little headphones on. Sounds go in and they measure that 0:06:16.241 --> 0:06:18.321 little tiny echo coming out to see if the hearing 0:06:18.361 --> 0:06:21.441 is normal. And they also can test with just some 0:06:21.481 --> 0:06:24.041 sticker electrodes that they put on the baby's head and 0:06:24.081 --> 0:06:27.241 play sounds and watch the brain waves. So yeah, we can. 0:06:27.361 --> 0:06:29.041 We can check to each frequency. 0:06:29.441 --> 0:06:32.841 And so what was the what was the physical Sorry? 0:06:33.081 --> 0:06:37.361 So with the baby who had genetic hearing loss, Yeah, 0:06:37.401 --> 0:06:38.841 and you said she was profoundly deft? 0:06:38.841 --> 0:06:42.521 Did you say profoundly zero or just a touch like nothing? 0:06:42.601 --> 0:06:44.721 She was on the list for coclear implants. Yeah, and 0:06:44.761 --> 0:06:47.521 her older sister already has co clear implants. Yeah. They 0:06:47.521 --> 0:06:51.241 both had the same genetic mutations. So with this gene therapy, 0:06:51.241 --> 0:06:53.921 it gave them back what they were missing protein wise, 0:06:54.001 --> 0:06:55.441 and it fixed her hearing. 0:06:55.641 --> 0:06:57.281 Why what did they do it? Why did they try 0:06:57.281 --> 0:06:59.121 it on a baby rather than someone who was older. 0:06:59.281 --> 0:07:03.081 Is it because they think that the development she could develop. 0:07:03.401 --> 0:07:05.681 Yeah, I don't know the details of that. I'm not sure. 0:07:05.721 --> 0:07:08.041 But her sister has the cocalarm plants. They're not going 0:07:08.081 --> 0:07:09.881 to do that with her. She's she's happy with the 0:07:09.881 --> 0:07:11.681 cochlearan plants and is carrying on doing well. 0:07:11.761 --> 0:07:14.321 So I guess she feels it ain't bright, don't fix it. 0:07:14.481 --> 0:07:16.161 Maybe that is amazing though, is that? 0:07:16.321 --> 0:07:17.801 Yeah? So I think we're going to see it in 0:07:17.801 --> 0:07:18.921 our lifetime for sure. 0:07:19.121 --> 0:07:21.921 Wow. Hey, by the way, just a quick question, is 0:07:21.961 --> 0:07:23.761 the word deaf, okay these days, because you know how 0:07:23.801 --> 0:07:26.081 people say, hey, what's wrong with you? Death or something 0:07:26.881 --> 0:07:31.121 it feels I mean to people, is it Is it 0:07:31.161 --> 0:07:32.961 a word that sort of you still use. It's like 0:07:33.001 --> 0:07:35.081 as such and such as definitely you say you are 0:07:35.081 --> 0:07:37.401 suffering from hearing loss, and death is more of a 0:07:37.961 --> 0:07:38.641 I think it's. 0:07:38.441 --> 0:07:42.361 Like everything description fit individual. But I grew up in 0:07:42.401 --> 0:07:45.801 a deaf family and sign language is our first language, 0:07:45.881 --> 0:07:49.321 and for us, deaf is the right term capital D deaf, 0:07:49.401 --> 0:07:51.561 so we identify with deaf culture. You have a whole 0:07:51.561 --> 0:07:54.721 different Yeah, but hearing loss, hard of hearing? 0:07:56.241 --> 0:07:58.321 Checking the terminology because you never have, you know, because 0:07:58.361 --> 0:08:03.041 times change and some words become It's like, okay, the 0:08:03.081 --> 0:08:05.801 word would be if someone is disabled. People used to 0:08:05.921 --> 0:08:07.841 throw around the word crippled, and that is not a 0:08:07.881 --> 0:08:09.521 word you use. And that's why I was just checking, 0:08:09.561 --> 0:08:12.441 because our terminology does change, and that's yeah, I was 0:08:12.441 --> 0:08:13.281 hoping that was a reasonable. 0:08:13.401 --> 0:08:15.801 I'd say it's probably more acceptable hearing loss or hearing 0:08:15.841 --> 0:08:18.161 impaired these days, but I think hard of hearing. 0:08:17.961 --> 0:08:22.161 Is still so you have hearing aids yourself, yes, And 0:08:22.601 --> 0:08:24.961 is that from just a young age or did you 0:08:25.001 --> 0:08:26.121 get progressive hearing loss a. 0:08:26.761 --> 0:08:28.521 Bit of both, so yes, from a young age and 0:08:28.561 --> 0:08:30.841 it is progressive, so it's getting worse every year. But 0:08:31.361 --> 0:08:34.841 my grandparents profoundly deaf. You sign language. My dad's quite 0:08:34.881 --> 0:08:37.521 hard of hearing. We all use sign language growing up 0:08:37.521 --> 0:08:41.481 because of my grandparents being so close. And my daughter 0:08:41.561 --> 0:08:44.041 has has a hearing loss as well, so it obviously 0:08:44.201 --> 0:08:45.801 something runs in our family. 0:08:46.081 --> 0:08:49.481 Yeah, so is that what you become an ordeologist in 0:08:49.561 --> 0:08:51.641 steut of curious? I mean it does sound obvious as. 0:08:51.601 --> 0:08:55.041 Well, but yeah, well, the thing is, nobody knows anything 0:08:55.041 --> 0:08:57.681 about getting your hearing tested. You know, we see on 0:08:57.761 --> 0:08:59.761 TV people getting their eyes tested, and you have the 0:08:59.801 --> 0:09:02.681 eye chart in the in the doctor's office, but you know, 0:09:02.841 --> 0:09:05.681 if you've never had your hearing tested, don't really know 0:09:05.721 --> 0:09:08.481 what to expect. So when I was little, I was 0:09:08.521 --> 0:09:10.881 back and forth all the time. I had four sets 0:09:10.881 --> 0:09:13.921 of gromets as well, and you know I wanted to 0:09:13.921 --> 0:09:15.841 be on the other side pushing all the fancy buttons, 0:09:16.121 --> 0:09:19.961 not just the one button, you know. So yeah, that's 0:09:19.961 --> 0:09:21.121 how I's how I got into it. 0:09:21.201 --> 0:09:23.641 How many changes, what changes have you seen so far 0:09:23.881 --> 0:09:28.401 since you became an ordiologist? To head of audiology amazing. 0:09:28.481 --> 0:09:32.601 Actually, So the first hearing aids that that I used 0:09:32.721 --> 0:09:37.161 had had tiny little screwdriver adjustments and they were linear 0:09:37.161 --> 0:09:40.161 and nothing was digital, and you had a million different 0:09:40.161 --> 0:09:43.241 cables and plugs to plug the hearing aids physically. In 0:09:43.521 --> 0:09:47.161 was the next step when they were analog but digitally programmable, 0:09:47.601 --> 0:09:51.041 and now they're fully digital Bluetooth wireless. You just connect 0:09:51.041 --> 0:09:55.281 everything wirelessly, and they even some of them even have 0:09:55.761 --> 0:10:00.481 artificial intelligence inside to figure out background noise from speech 0:10:00.561 --> 0:10:02.921 and enhance the speech and turn down the noise. It's 0:10:02.961 --> 0:10:03.481 pretty neat. 0:10:03.561 --> 0:10:05.601 That is mind blowing. So it's not we're not just 0:10:05.641 --> 0:10:08.681 talking an EQ here. We're talking art official intelligence which 0:10:08.721 --> 0:10:12.041 is processing the sound and going hmm, that sounds like speech, 0:10:12.081 --> 0:10:14.081 will pop that up. How quickly can it do it? 0:10:14.601 --> 0:10:17.081 In real time? Real time? Oh? Absolutely? And there's no 0:10:17.201 --> 0:10:21.601 lag either with the Bluetooth connectivity. So I stream from 0:10:21.641 --> 0:10:24.801 the TV straight to my hearing aids. Really yeah, and 0:10:24.841 --> 0:10:27.161 I can hear it in real time without any any echo. 0:10:27.281 --> 0:10:29.841 And my partner can watch a one volume, I can 0:10:29.881 --> 0:10:34.161 watch at another volume, and you can even soon soon, 0:10:34.241 --> 0:10:36.681 soon we'll be able to select different languages to listen 0:10:36.681 --> 0:10:38.001 in in real time as well. 0:10:38.121 --> 0:10:40.081 So if you're hang on a minute, hold it so 0:10:40.641 --> 0:10:43.241 I could be talking to you and you can say, 0:10:43.561 --> 0:10:45.721 I could be talking in French and you would say, 0:10:46.081 --> 0:10:48.481 just translate that for me as we go close. 0:10:48.561 --> 0:10:51.641 But not yet, I'm thinking about TV streaming. TV streaming, 0:10:51.681 --> 0:10:54.081 so if it's been recorded in different languages, so Netflix, 0:10:54.081 --> 0:10:58.521 for example, you can choose different languages. You know, if 0:10:58.561 --> 0:11:01.001 your grandparents were from Korea and they wanted to watch, 0:11:01.081 --> 0:11:02.841 you know, in their language, and you wanted to watch 0:11:02.881 --> 0:11:03.321 in English. 0:11:03.361 --> 0:11:05.961 Let's say everybody in real I was a step ahead 0:11:05.961 --> 0:11:07.921 of it. Like in other words, you go on holiday 0:11:07.921 --> 0:11:10.441 to Frantce and someone says something to you in French 0:11:10.481 --> 0:11:14.161 and you would say and would translated. 0:11:14.161 --> 0:11:16.001 I don't think we're that far away though, because you 0:11:16.001 --> 0:11:18.201 can stream that through your phone, so we could do that. 0:11:18.361 --> 0:11:21.441 In theory, how big would your hearing aid need to 0:11:21.441 --> 0:11:23.201 be to carry that sort of level of energy and 0:11:23.241 --> 0:11:25.641 processing power? Not very big at all. 0:11:26.481 --> 0:11:29.481 You've brought in a collection of hearing aids. There are 0:11:29.521 --> 0:11:32.681 the ones that look like there's a tiny there's three 0:11:32.721 --> 0:11:34.721 that look like they fit over the back of your 0:11:34.721 --> 0:11:38.681 ear with a tiny insertion into your ear, and then 0:11:38.761 --> 0:11:41.641 there there's the big sort of old school clunky one. Yes, 0:11:41.801 --> 0:11:43.241 I don't know if that's still in use now, but 0:11:43.241 --> 0:11:45.561 it's molded saria. Yes, And then it gets a bit 0:11:45.601 --> 0:11:48.521 smaller but smaller until there's one that's probably the size of. 0:11:48.401 --> 0:11:49.801 My probably. 0:11:51.081 --> 0:11:54.481 Tip of my tip of my little finger, actually the 0:11:54.521 --> 0:11:59.441 tip of a smaller person than me, but that is 0:12:00.561 --> 0:12:02.721 it's way smaller than Yeah. 0:12:02.881 --> 0:12:08.201 Yeah, for the recessing to determine speech from noise. It's 0:12:08.241 --> 0:12:13.201 available in all of them. So the next level with 0:12:13.801 --> 0:12:17.961 Bluetooth streaming, that chip is a little bit larger, the 0:12:18.041 --> 0:12:19.961 receiver is a little bit larger, so that would be 0:12:20.041 --> 0:12:22.761 probably from the medium sized battery upwards. And a lot 0:12:22.841 --> 0:12:25.641 of them now are rechargeable, so there's that's also the 0:12:25.721 --> 0:12:28.521 little charger case that I brought in that looks like 0:12:28.561 --> 0:12:31.241 an air pod case kind of where the hearing aids 0:12:31.241 --> 0:12:33.121 pop down into it and they charge overnight. 0:12:33.321 --> 0:12:36.401 Are these so what's I'm guessing the most expensive one 0:12:36.441 --> 0:12:38.361 is that one at the end that's tiny the size 0:12:38.361 --> 0:12:38.881 of my pinky. 0:12:39.001 --> 0:12:41.841 That's a great question. Now the size is completely irrelevant. 0:12:41.921 --> 0:12:46.281 It's what kind of computer chip and features are inside? Yep, yeah, okay, 0:12:46.601 --> 0:12:49.321 so some people it depends on their type of hearing loss. 0:12:49.401 --> 0:12:52.401 Some shapes will be more appropriate than others, and some 0:12:52.521 --> 0:12:55.601 you need to have your own voice escape from your body, 0:12:55.681 --> 0:12:57.721 so you can't block off your ear because you might 0:12:57.761 --> 0:13:00.161 have excellent hearing for some sounds. So if you have 0:13:00.201 --> 0:13:02.441 a partial hearing loss, you want one that doesn't block 0:13:02.441 --> 0:13:03.081 off your ears. 0:13:03.521 --> 0:13:05.761 Oh, I see, so one of the ones that fits 0:13:05.801 --> 0:13:08.401 behind your ears with a much smaller and I don't. 0:13:08.241 --> 0:13:09.801 Know what, do you call it a little sneaker that 0:13:09.841 --> 0:13:10.441 goes in your ear? 0:13:10.601 --> 0:13:10.801 Yeah? 0:13:10.921 --> 0:13:13.121 Yeah, and the little end on that speaker should have 0:13:13.161 --> 0:13:15.841 lots of ventilation holes if your hearing is normal for 0:13:15.881 --> 0:13:18.961 any of those pitches. And the other useful thing with 0:13:19.041 --> 0:13:21.881 having the speaker in your ear is if your hearing 0:13:21.921 --> 0:13:24.801 gets worse, you don't need to purchase any new hearing aids. 0:13:24.841 --> 0:13:26.921 You just put a new speaker, a stronger speaker on 0:13:27.001 --> 0:13:30.161 and it can keep up with you. So that's that's 0:13:30.201 --> 0:13:32.481 the kind that I wear. So if my hearing continues 0:13:32.521 --> 0:13:34.801 to get worse every year, then I don't need to 0:13:34.841 --> 0:13:36.601 buy a new hearing aid. I just put a stronger 0:13:36.641 --> 0:13:40.201 speaker on and then just adjust the sound output to match. 0:13:40.561 --> 0:13:43.161 In terms of the cause of general hearing losses. It 0:13:43.201 --> 0:13:45.001 all to do with the hairs, those billions of. 0:13:44.921 --> 0:13:47.921 Hairs, not always, so that's a permanent hearing loss called 0:13:47.921 --> 0:13:51.041 a sensory neural loss that's in the cochlea or the nerve. 0:13:51.481 --> 0:13:53.761 But you can also have a conductive loss, which is 0:13:53.921 --> 0:13:56.281 the ear drum or the three little bones of hearing. 0:13:56.681 --> 0:14:00.321 So it's kind of like the equivalent of like an 0:14:00.361 --> 0:14:03.161 amplifier basically, so you know, when you're underwater and you 0:14:03.201 --> 0:14:05.561 can hear someone talking above the water, but it sounds 0:14:05.641 --> 0:14:10.641 very very far away, that mismatch, that volume change. What 0:14:10.681 --> 0:14:13.041 you'd need is an amplifier to hear somebody on the 0:14:13.041 --> 0:14:15.001 other side. And that's what that part of our ear does. 0:14:15.201 --> 0:14:18.521 It's funny because we're talking about hearing. I'm consciously adjusting 0:14:18.521 --> 0:14:20.521 my headphones to see how much I need to turn 0:14:20.561 --> 0:14:23.001 them down because I'm so tuned to it right now. 0:14:23.841 --> 0:14:25.521 Just one other question. We're going to take your cause 0:14:25.521 --> 0:14:27.481 by the way, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. There's lots 0:14:27.561 --> 0:14:30.281 You may have lots of questions anything about hearing loss. 0:14:31.081 --> 0:14:32.921 If you are concerned, you want to get some advice. 0:14:32.961 --> 0:14:35.961 What's the procedure, what are you what are the range 0:14:35.961 --> 0:14:41.201 of costs and anything that's involved with addressing your hearing concerns. 0:14:41.201 --> 0:14:42.761 We want to hear from you on eight hundred eighty 0:14:42.801 --> 0:14:44.801 ten eighty. You can text on nine two nine two. 0:14:45.561 --> 0:14:47.601 Just one thing. I've always been curious about that if 0:14:47.641 --> 0:14:50.601 it is a loud noise that causes those hairs to 0:14:51.321 --> 0:14:54.321 lie flat, I guess or give up, how do you 0:14:55.201 --> 0:14:58.441 prevent the cure not being the cause further cause, because 0:14:58.441 --> 0:15:01.601 obviously a hearing aid turns up the sound, and so 0:15:01.641 --> 0:15:03.401 how do you how do you stop that sort of 0:15:03.521 --> 0:15:05.841 the cure being a cause of further ifness and just 0:15:05.961 --> 0:15:06.681 chasing your tail? 0:15:06.881 --> 0:15:09.721 Yeah? Yeah, And what you're saying is like the glasses analogy, right, 0:15:09.721 --> 0:15:11.761 Like if you're wearing glasses, your eyes get lazy, sort 0:15:11.801 --> 0:15:15.321 of thing. With hearing aids, it doesn't really work like that. 0:15:15.401 --> 0:15:18.041 So what tends to happen is the soft sounds. You 0:15:18.081 --> 0:15:20.721 won't be able to hear them anymore. If it's noise damage, 0:15:20.721 --> 0:15:22.841 you won't be able to hear the beginnings and ends 0:15:22.921 --> 0:15:25.521 of the words just at a few pictures. So the 0:15:25.561 --> 0:15:28.361 hearing aids will turn up the soft sounds enough that 0:15:28.401 --> 0:15:31.281 you can hear them, but they still sound soft to you. 0:15:31.801 --> 0:15:33.681 Medium sounds are turned up just a little bit and 0:15:33.681 --> 0:15:37.441 then loud sounds are not touched at all or turned down. Actually, 0:15:37.521 --> 0:15:41.921 so it's not like it's just overall volume. Everything is up. 0:15:42.001 --> 0:15:46.161 It has has alternating volume depending on what the input. 0:15:46.681 --> 0:15:50.601 Chris, it's fascinating. Look what your calls one eighty ten eighty. 0:15:51.721 --> 0:15:55.521 My guest is Leslie Smith. She is Triton Hearings Head 0:15:55.561 --> 0:15:59.241 of Audiology, so I think she's pretty well qualified to 0:15:59.281 --> 0:16:01.161 answer answer your questions. If you've got me, we'd love 0:16:01.161 --> 0:16:02.921 to hear from you. We've got lots we can talk about, 0:16:03.361 --> 0:16:05.081 which will carry on with in just a moment this 0:16:05.321 --> 0:16:07.201 news talk sai'd b. This is our health AaB. It's 0:16:07.241 --> 0:16:16.201 twenty two and a half past four. Yes, and did 0:16:16.241 --> 0:16:19.401 you know that one in six New Zealanders experience hearing 0:16:19.441 --> 0:16:22.081 loss and choosing the right hearing solution for your individual 0:16:22.081 --> 0:16:25.081 needs is important. Your local Triton Hearing team will work 0:16:25.121 --> 0:16:27.361 with you to find the best hearing solution for your 0:16:27.401 --> 0:16:30.801 listening needs, lifestyle and budget. 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That's 0:17:07.601 --> 0:17:14.241 eight hundred forty five forty five forty two. 0:17:12.921 --> 0:17:17.841 Property, parenting, politics plus health, money and the week's big issues. 0:17:18.001 --> 0:17:21.441 It's all on the weekend Collector with Tim Beveridge used 0:17:21.441 --> 0:17:23.561 Talk Sat B and we would. 0:17:23.321 --> 0:17:27.841 Sign different dance and we would smoking runned things, making 0:17:28.001 --> 0:17:36.401 a letter every song excepting Whiskey not taking but Marvel 0:17:36.681 --> 0:17:45.561 singing Sweet Home Alabama, Our summer life. Yes, News Talk 0:17:45.601 --> 0:17:47.801 set B eight hundred eighty ten eighty. This is the 0:17:47.841 --> 0:17:49.521 week in collect for the health and my guest is 0:17:49.641 --> 0:17:53.161 from Triton Hearing. It's Leslie Smith, Triton's Hearing. Triton Hearing's 0:17:53.441 --> 0:17:56.961 head of audiology, and actually Leslie has brought in a 0:17:57.041 --> 0:17:58.681 bunch of hearing aids for me to ever look at, 0:17:59.241 --> 0:18:01.401 seven of them, including a sort of I don't know 0:18:01.441 --> 0:18:03.401 how to describe it actually, but it's a little sort 0:18:03.401 --> 0:18:06.561 of large bullet shaped device which Leslie acts as what 0:18:06.721 --> 0:18:07.521 a remote. 0:18:07.201 --> 0:18:10.201 Control, So the remote control. Yes, So for the tiny 0:18:10.361 --> 0:18:12.681 hearing aids that go deep down in the canal that 0:18:12.801 --> 0:18:16.401 are invisible, they're called iices invisible in the canal or 0:18:16.481 --> 0:18:19.441 completely in the canal see ices. There's not enough room 0:18:19.481 --> 0:18:22.441 for a Bluetooth chip because normally we would use your 0:18:22.641 --> 0:18:27.281 phone smartphone app to be a full remote. But yeah, 0:18:27.321 --> 0:18:29.281 it's like a little key chain that you can unscrew 0:18:29.321 --> 0:18:30.921 the end of and it's got a little magnet that 0:18:30.961 --> 0:18:32.961 you can hold close to your ear and it lets 0:18:33.041 --> 0:18:35.841 you adjust through a couple of different volume stages or 0:18:36.041 --> 0:18:37.881 different programs for different situations. 0:18:38.001 --> 0:18:40.841 You're telling me something interesting in the break about the 0:18:40.921 --> 0:18:46.401 ability just so it's no longer just hearing fitscen rear 0:18:46.441 --> 0:18:47.961 where you turn it up and down all and that's it. 0:18:48.481 --> 0:18:51.161 You can for instance, you're saying if you go to 0:18:52.241 --> 0:18:55.241 a quiz nite or something and the hearing and if 0:18:55.241 --> 0:18:57.561 it's a bit loud and you're just you're hearing. Next 0:18:57.641 --> 0:18:59.761 time you go to that quiz nit, because everything's linked 0:18:59.841 --> 0:19:02.161 up with your phone's right, it'll say, oh, by the 0:19:02.201 --> 0:19:04.481 way where it knows, oh we're quiz night, let's turn 0:19:04.521 --> 0:19:05.001 down the volume. 0:19:05.401 --> 0:19:08.441