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Speaker 1: Francisca Ruggin on Heather duples Elan Drive with one New

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Speaker 2: Yes, good to have you with us this afternoon. On

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Speaker 2: the show, we head to Florida where Milton has made landfall.

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Speaker 2: We get the latest on the conditions and how it's

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Speaker 2: all unfolding from our reporter on the ground. The government's

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Speaker 2: financial books have sunk further into debt in the year

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Speaker 2: to June. We talk to Finance Minister Nicola Willis about

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Speaker 2: how the government will respond and banks have a new

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Speaker 2: plan to help stop scams. More on that after six.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past four, Francesca, so just how much

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Speaker 2: Polkinghorn is enough? Polkinghorn? Today it was announced that South

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Speaker 2: Pacific Pictures, together with UK based production companies, are developing

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Speaker 2: an original limited drama series. It's called The Mysterious Death

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Speaker 2: of Pauline Hannah. I wonder what Pauline would say if

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Speaker 2: she could see the outcome of her death. Firstly, her

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Speaker 2: life was laid bare, her personal life forensically picked apart,

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Speaker 2: discussed and judged in an eight week court trial, a

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Speaker 2: court case that was thoroughly covered by the media. Since then,

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Speaker 2: it was announced that there would be a three part

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Speaker 2: twoey billboards, and now we have the dramatization. It's a

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Speaker 2: lot of people making money off the tragic story of

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Speaker 2: the death of one woman. I totally understand why this

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Speaker 2: It's a universally appealing story, filled with intriguing characters and

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Speaker 2: But there needs to be more to it than capitalizing

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Speaker 2: on a scandalous story. As I said after the document

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Speaker 2: on a victim's tragedy for entertainment's sake. The line in

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Speaker 2: the press release that caught my attention was this, By

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Speaker 2: presenting the facts of the case in a responsible, forensic

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Speaker 2: and non judgmental way the mysterious death of Pauline Hannah

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Speaker 2: will let the audience decide. Is that not what the

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Speaker 2: the court case, and you must remember mister Polkinhorn was

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Speaker 2: found not guilty, you've already probably made up your own

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Speaker 2: mind about what happened. Do we need a dramatization? Haven't

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Speaker 2: we had enough? There is a place for true crime documentaries, podcasts,

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Speaker 2: and dramatizations. They can be a powerful way to tell

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Speaker 2: cautionary tales and question our justice system and the treatment

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Speaker 2: of victims. Just look at the Grace Meline documentary currently

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Speaker 2: Grace Melane. I suggest you watch it. It's very good.

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Speaker 2: This is a documentary that adds context to the story.

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Speaker 2: It reveals new information and footage was delivered a respectful

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Speaker 2: time after Grace's death, and most importantly, respected the victim

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Speaker 2: and their family. Look at a time when local production

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Speaker 2: industry is hurting, it is good to hear about new

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Speaker 2: their families and friends. Francesca I did a very unscientific

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Speaker 2: To me, I think it's probably more about timing. I

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Speaker 2: think we've had enough right now, and I felt like

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Speaker 3: Oh? Not too bad? Tough David, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: How big of an impact will this have on the community.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's an absolute nightmare. I mean, we leave a

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Speaker 2: Look but Dave, you're helping. You are still helping in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Otherwise you know there's going to be you know,

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Speaker 2: Dave, Is there any sign of a life coming through?

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Speaker 3: I did have a you know, I've had one organization

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Speaker 3: But we just can't, you know, we just can't get

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean to Dave, you know, if you

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Speaker 2: Do you think that this is just the start of

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Speaker 2: So on, hey, look, I know it's been a tough

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Speaker 2: Allison Petrowski is our Channel nine US correspondent. She is

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Speaker 2: a host of sports talk, and he joins me, now,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing that?

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Speaker 6: Good a Francesca, you very well? How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Were you expecting this news about Shawn Johnson.

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Speaker 7: I think they have done the right thing, given there

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Speaker 7: Actually we'll never have a John McEnroe you cannot be

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Speaker 1: BE digging deeper into the day's headlines. It's Francesca Runkin

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Speaker 2: I thank you for your text this afternoon. Love Davidlahtally,

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Speaker 2: big heart. But socialism doesn't work. Change tech and get

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Speaker 2: he does that as well Francisco, it's a pretty costco

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Speaker 2: It is an extremely sad case. There are many family

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Speaker 2: the three missing Matracorpo children have been seen recently and

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Speaker 9: Does anybody know that we're here, Is anybody coming for us?

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Speaker 10: I expect them there instantly.

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Speaker 7: Be started with.

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Speaker 4: Dale's down Street.

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Speaker 1: There's a party downtown near Peace Street.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on News Talks, it'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: And finally, Canadian Canadian speed eater has added another world

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Speaker 1: Astene, why would you International correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 2: And Murray old storys us now from Australia. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 2: you're there, Murray.

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Speaker 3: Good friends.

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Speaker 5: Yes, how are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, this is the acting Prime Minister. In fact, Richard

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Speaker 2: Okay, look, we actually we're gonna come back. We're going

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Speaker 2: And this training government is well, they're suggesting that governments

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Speaker 5: Ye're very good out of the stay.

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Speaker 5: Out of her office, needs to give notice to set

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Speaker 5: He said, made, I've got your back. And he's gone

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Speaker 2: The report has been handed down on the fatal helicopter

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Speaker 5: twenty three year old Blake Wilson Blake Wilson. Mister Wilson

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Speaker 5: was a qualified pilot in the New Zealand helicopter pilot came

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Speaker 5: to Australia. It was not experienced flying at night and

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Speaker 5: he had not been appropriately licensed to fly here in Australia.

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Speaker 5: He was working up in Queensland in cans for an

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Speaker 5: aviation company and he had been there for I think

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Speaker 5: four and he was very well regarded. But on the

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Speaker 5: night that he died, he'd been celebrating with workmates. He

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Speaker 5: was about to get a promotion. He was going to

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Speaker 5: be posted out to the Barrier Reef. He's going to

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Speaker 5: be in charge of refueling operations out there for the company.

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Speaker 5: For reasons unexplained, they've had a few drinks. One thirty

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Speaker 5: in the morning, mister Wilson's gone out to Canns Airport,

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Speaker 5: used his pass to get in and taken a helicopter

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Speaker 5: and he's flown off towards the city of Cannes. The

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Speaker 5: short short flight, I mean very short flight. He was

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Speaker 5: upside down when he crashed into the roof of the

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Speaker 5: hotel and he died, and the wreckage of courser went

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Speaker 5: powering into a bedroom window and a couple inside there

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Speaker 5: were slightly injured, and so this inquire has been held

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Speaker 5: and basically it was death by misadventure, a.

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Speaker 2: Very sad story, but still sounds a little bit mysterious. Murray.

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Speaker 5: Well, they think he was affected by alcohol when he

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Speaker 5: took the helicop and we're on an unauthorized flight in

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Speaker 5: the middle of the night. He had not flown that

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Speaker 5: night before. And know the way it's been phrased, it

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Speaker 5: looks like he might have been drunk. So not a

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Speaker 5: good mixture, not a very good mixture at all.

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Speaker 2: So Murray, who is suggesting that government's impose a social

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Speaker 2: media band for children under sixteen?

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Speaker 5: Well, governments at least the New South Wales government so

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Speaker 5: to the South Australian government, and both of these administrations

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Speaker 5: are hosting a summit here in Sydney. What can be

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Speaker 5: done about protecting young people from some of the content

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Speaker 5: you can get online is dreadful. Everyone knows that, I

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Speaker 5: mean everybody over the age of sixteen knows how shocking

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Speaker 5: the net can be. Is also the big issue of

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Speaker 5: bullying on the internet. Anyway, the two state governments are

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Speaker 5: having this summit meeting here in Sydney. They want the

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Speaker 5: federal government to introduce NASH legislation makes sense of a

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Speaker 5: couple of states are going to do it, why not

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Speaker 5: do it nationally, And the federal government does plan to

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Speaker 5: introduce some legislation before the end of the year. Basically,

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Speaker 5: the meeting has brought together academics, young people, mums and dads,

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Speaker 5: community voices, mental health experts. A survey out only this

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Speaker 5: week Francesca found three out of four young people teenage

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Speaker 5: kids here in New South Wales three out of four

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Speaker 5: are accessing information about mental health on the internet. So

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Speaker 5: and they are saying, listen, Without this, we've got no

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Speaker 5: access to any information. We can't go to mum and

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Speaker 5: dad and say listen, we're feeling really stressed out. We

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Speaker 5: can't go and see a doctor ourselves because we're not

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Speaker 5: old enough. And this is one way for us to

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Speaker 5: actually access information that we think we need. So where

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Speaker 5: this lands, I'm not altogether sure. I don't think the

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Speaker 5: government's sure either, but certainly the New South Wales premiere

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Speaker 5: Chris Men's is adamant there's got to be some sort

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Speaker 5: of guide Wales on internet access for young people.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and then when they are over when they turned sixteen,

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Speaker 2: you've also got to make sure that you'll explain to

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Speaker 2: them how do you use it and they don't just

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Speaker 2: fall into all the pitfalls that you've just explained.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that's true.

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Speaker 4: It can be.

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Speaker 5: It's obviously a great tool, but it can be also

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Speaker 5: extremely damaging in the wrong and the wrong inexperienced educated

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Speaker 5: as Locke Murray.

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Speaker 2: If only we'd had more foresight when the whole thing

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Speaker 2: was created and we could have, you know, dealt with

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Speaker 2: this before it became a problem. But we just have

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Speaker 2: to keep moving forward, don't we. Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely nice, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Nice to catch up with you.

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Speaker 4: Up.

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Speaker 2: Next, we are going to talk to Sophie Trigger. She's

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Speaker 2: in last Worth, the Prime Minister, and he seems to

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Speaker 2: have a lot of meetings lined up, which is really

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Speaker 2: good news. We're going to sort of learn about what

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Speaker 2: we can expect from these meetings and the significant significance

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Speaker 2: of them. Next here on News Talks, he'd be it

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Speaker 2: is a fourteen to.

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Speaker 1: Five politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: Talks Here to be. Senior political reporter Sophie Trigger joins

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Speaker 2: us now from LAOS. Good afternoon, Calder, Francesca how are

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Speaker 2: you really good, Sophie. Hey, a meeting between Christopher Luxon

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Speaker 2: and India's Prime minister has been confirmed. This is good news.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, this is a really significant one, Francisca. The first

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Speaker 19: time Chris Luxon has met with Prime Minister Narendra Mody,

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Speaker 19: although they have us connected over the phone in the past,

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Speaker 19: and Luckson's been very clear about his interest in ramping

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Speaker 19: up New Zealand's connection to India. Obviously, he hopes to

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Speaker 19: eventually secure a free trade agreement, as this was something

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Speaker 19: he promised on the campaign trail that he'd be able

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Speaker 19: to achieve within his first term. Now, no formal negotiations

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Speaker 19: have begun, but Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Trade

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Speaker 19: Minister Tom McLay have both visited India multiple times this year,

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Speaker 19: indicating New Zealand's very interested in this and negotiations also

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Speaker 19: won't be starting at today's meeting. Luxon told media about

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Speaker 19: an hour ago it will be more about making a

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Speaker 19: connection to Mody with a view to visiting India within

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Speaker 19: the first six months of next year. He also acknowledged

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Speaker 19: that in order to get a free trade agree this term,

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Speaker 19: which was of course the pre election pledge negotiations would

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Speaker 19: have to begin next year, making that visit to India

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Speaker 19: really crucial.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 19: Luxon was of course also asked about how realistic and

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Speaker 19: ambitious and FTA with India actually is, and it did

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Speaker 19: seem a bit like he was trying to avoid saying

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Speaker 19: the words free trade agreement. He spoke instead about deepening

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Speaker 19: trading relationships, for example. But when pressed on that, he

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Speaker 19: did say that he's not backing away from that commitment.

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Speaker 16: He's sticking to it.

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Speaker 20: However ambitious it may be.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not really something you bring up at the

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Speaker 2: first meeting to try and get it there. Yes, sign

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Speaker 2: see of it? Is it a meeting? He's also been

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Speaker 2: locked in between Luxon and his Australian and Canadian counterparts.

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Speaker 2: What can we expect from this, Sophie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 19: We are expecting a meeting within the coming hour actually

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Speaker 19: between three of the Five Eyes partners, so that's New Zealand,

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Speaker 19: Australia and Canada. Chris Luxon has a good relationship with

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Speaker 19: both Anthony Albanesi and Justin Trudeau, and the Trio have

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Speaker 19: issued a number of joint statements in the past year

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Speaker 19: around Israel, gar around the Israel Garza conflict and have

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Speaker 19: taken a strong stance on Israel at times. And this

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Speaker 19: week is of course a significant week in that we

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Speaker 19: are a year on from the October seven attacks that

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Speaker 19: reignited this conflict, and I'm interested to see what comes

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Speaker 19: out of this meeting and if we could see any

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Speaker 19: other kind of formal statement from this trio. Luxon said

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Speaker 19: today that's not necessarily the case, but it's always good

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Speaker 19: to get in a room and touch base on some

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Speaker 19: of these common ground issues when you have the chance.

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Speaker 19: Luxon told media the Trio are like minded and have

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Speaker 19: used this partnership particularly well in the past ten months

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Speaker 19: regarding the situation in the Middle East. And I think

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Speaker 19: it would also be interesting to see if this becomes

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Speaker 19: a block that will begin to kind of make statements

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Speaker 19: together on broader issues as well. There's obviously power in

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Speaker 19: speaking more collectively on certain things, and Luxon said himself, Anthony,

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Speaker 19: Anthony Albanezi and Justin Trudeau have common ground with him on.

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Speaker 4: A lot of issues.

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Speaker 19: So as I say, this meeting's taking place shortly this afternoon,

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Speaker 19: so I will have more to say on this later.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Sophie, and just really quickly due to

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Speaker 2: the Collins has given an update on the Manawanui this afternoon.

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Speaker 19: Yes, an update on the sinking of the Manawannui. We

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Speaker 19: had a press conference from the Defense Minister, Judith Collins

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Speaker 19: and Chief of Navy Rear Admiral Garran Golding this afternoon

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Speaker 19: and Collins had some really strong words for what she's

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Speaker 19: called armchair admirals and has labeled the abuse directed at

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Speaker 19: Commander Yvonne Gray as deeply misogynistic. She says the one

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Speaker 19: thing we know did not cause the sinking was the

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Speaker 19: gender of the ship's captain, and she's appalled to hear

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Speaker 19: women in uniform are being abused in the street because

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Speaker 19: of this incident.

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Speaker 4: Now, on that Court.

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Speaker 19: Of Inquiry, Golding said it would look at the sequence

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Speaker 19: of events leading up to the grounding, the grounding itself,

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Speaker 19: the loss of the ship, injuries, environmental impact, among other issues,

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Speaker 19: and the court would provide an interim report by mid November.

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Speaker 19: So we should know a lot more about what happened

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Speaker 19: in a bit over a month on that one.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Sophie. That was Sophie Trigger News Talk,

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Speaker 2: Z'DB Senior political reporter. It is as seven to.

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Speaker 1: Five putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking.

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Speaker 10: Breakfast Transparent Mixim have donated a million bucks that will

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Speaker 10: support northern projects in the economy. Transper CEO John Clark

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Speaker 10: with us on this. So you do accept that the

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Speaker 10: damage done was somewhere between thirty and eighty and so

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Speaker 10: one million's just a gesture.

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Speaker 3: The economic lot a lot having a service like relativesity

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Speaker 3: is always way higher than what charge.

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Speaker 10: I mean, ultimately you are responsible because you employer MIXIM.

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Speaker 10: But essentially they're idiots that didn't do their job. Why

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Speaker 10: aren't they paying nine hundred ninety nine thousand, nine hundred

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Speaker 10: and ninety nine And U Tossin is simply we.

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Speaker 3: Are responsible, whilst Cook argued how much should we shared?

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Speaker 21: We're comfortable that at a fifty fifty arrangement.

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Speaker 10: Back tomorrow at six am, the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your feedback this hour. We

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Speaker 2: were talking about searching for the children, of course with

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Speaker 2: their father and the bush and I just made I

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Speaker 2: wanted to know, actually this is a job that sort

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Speaker 2: of landsa the search and rescued teams could do because

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Speaker 2: they're very, very good at what they do. Francisca Lancer

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Speaker 2: volunteers nationwide are very good and well trained as well

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Speaker 2: as police esare personnel. The difference between a normal search

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Speaker 2: and Tom Phillips is that he's armed and doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to be found, meaning that civilians landsa can't be used

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Speaker 2: and it has to be left to the police to

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Speaker 2: do the actual searching. Thank you for that, Sean, And yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a few people here saying it will be a

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Speaker 2: five minute job for our very good essays trackers and

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Speaker 2: your people asking why they haven't been out there, and

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Speaker 2: that is the reason. As another text reason, I think

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Speaker 2: the police are in a very tricky situation. If this

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Speaker 2: goes bad and ends up with the death, there will

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Speaker 2: be huge public outcry. There is a lot of sympathy

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Speaker 2: from him, from parents and similar circumstances and custody custody

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Speaker 2: disputes and as somebody tells me, stay in your lane, lady,

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Speaker 2: stay in your lane. They're Tom's children and he can

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Speaker 2: do what he thinks best and maybe he should not

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Speaker 2: be returned to the mother. I was just making the

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Speaker 2: point there are also other people in those children's lives.

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Speaker 2: There are grandparents and extended family who would probably love

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Speaker 2: to give them a hug and know that they are okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually a fan of homeschooling. I don't mind as

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Speaker 2: a parent how you decide to raise your children and

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Speaker 2: whether they're homeschooled or what they do. But children also

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Speaker 2: need socializing. They also need to be around their peers

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Speaker 2: and other people. So there were sort of other other

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Speaker 2: things that play here that make me worry about about

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Speaker 2: these kids and how well they're doing. So that was

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Speaker 2: the sentiment that I was expressing there. But thank you

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Speaker 2: for your feedback. Keep it coming. Ninety two. Ninety two

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Speaker 2: probably won't stay in my lane. I've never been very

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Speaker 2: good at that, if you ask my partner. Hey, coming

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Speaker 2: up after the News, we are going to head to Florida.

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Speaker 2: We've got a problem in Florida. Not only is Milton

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Speaker 2: has it hit landfall. Leslie is on its way in

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Speaker 2: as well from the Atlantic Ocean. It has just been

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Speaker 2: lifted to a Category two hurricane. This could be a

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Speaker 2: really really big issue for Florida. So we're going to

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Speaker 2: cover that off after News, which is next here on

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Speaker 2: News talks about.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust. To ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Francisca Ruggin on Hither Dopers Alan drive with one New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: let's get connected news.

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Speaker 4: Talk Zi B.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you with us right. Hurricane Milton has

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Speaker 2: made landfall in Florida, with over five point five million

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Speaker 2: residents told to evacuate and officials calling the conditions unsurvivable.

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Speaker 2: Allison Petrowski is Channel nine's UIs correspondent on the ground

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Speaker 2: in Temper and she is with us now. Good evening, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good evening to you. Francesca.

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Speaker 20: I'm just hiding at the moment in my hotel room

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Speaker 20: in Tampa, getting away from the back end of this storm,

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Speaker 20: which is still roaring through Melton, still raining down very

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Speaker 20: much so on the Gulf coast of Florida.

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Speaker 2: What is the latest that you can tell us from

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Speaker 2: your room.

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Speaker 20: The latest I can tell you is that one point

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Speaker 20: five million people without power at the moment. I've sat

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Speaker 20: through a couple of blackouts on and off here in

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Speaker 20: the last hour hour or so. And look, we've seen

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Speaker 20: record rainfall. So Saint Petersburg, which is one of the

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Speaker 20: cities just to the southwest of me, about ten kilometers away.

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Speaker 20: It received sixteen inches of rain in the storm, eight

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Speaker 20: inches of them in two hours, which makes it a

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Speaker 20: one in one thousand year rain event. I've sat through

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Speaker 20: a few of these storms Francesca here on the Golf coast.

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Speaker 20: The wind wasn't particularly bad. It got up to about

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Speaker 20: one hundred and ninet kilometers an hour. Was a pretty

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Speaker 20: sustained Category three storm, not the worst that I've felt.

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Speaker 20: But the rain, it was relentless. It was a deluge

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Speaker 20: that did not stop. It is bucketed down for a

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Speaker 20: good seven or eight hours. And the backside of that

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Speaker 20: is that we wait to see what the flooding looks like,

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Speaker 20: because normally when these hurricanes passed, we see a storm

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Speaker 20: surge afterwards. And that is the big fear where I

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Speaker 20: am in Florida, in Tampa, Florida, where there were originally

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Speaker 20: storm surges forecast of up to twelve fourteen feet, so

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Speaker 20: you'd imagine that's you know, higher than the first story

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Speaker 20: of most buildings. So everyone was told to kind of

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Speaker 20: stay above the second floor of whatever hotel or whatever

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Speaker 20: residential tower you were staying on, and keep an eye

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Speaker 20: on and hope for the best.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's really interesting. So even when the winds die

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Speaker 2: down and the rain eases a little bit, Ellison, you

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Speaker 2: don't just sort of hit out and go, and you know,

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Speaker 2: as seist the situation, you have to be really aware

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Speaker 2: of that, of that storm.

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Speaker 4: Okay, things don't just go back to normal.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, sometimes it can take hours. In fact of that,

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Speaker 20: you know, seventy two hours later the storm sturge surge

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Speaker 20: really start to rise up.

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting phenomenon.

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Speaker 20: And I guess these Floridians who ride out so many

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Speaker 20: of these hurricanes, they are very used to it. But

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Speaker 20: for us Aussies and for Kiwi's, it's definitely something that

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Speaker 20: we're not used to seeing.

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Speaker 2: I think first responders still suspended.

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Speaker 20: They are, and it's complicated here where I am in Tampa.

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Speaker 20: The storm has died down enough that they can get

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Speaker 20: around if need be. But when it comes to those

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Speaker 20: barrier islands along the Gulf coast, those beautiful, beautiful islands

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Speaker 20: which are removed from the mainland and only connected by road,

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Speaker 20: those bridges were shut down a good ten hours ago

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Speaker 20: and they are yet to reopen. They and those residents

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Speaker 20: on those islands who decided to ride it out, they

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Speaker 20: were warned, Hey, have enough supplies for a week, have

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Speaker 20: enough food and water for a week, because it may

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Speaker 20: take us that long to get to you. So they

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Speaker 20: had that warning. A few of them did decide to

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Speaker 20: write it out and hopefully they are not in need

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Speaker 20: of aid, because, yeah, you're right, emergency services won't be

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Speaker 20: able to get through to them until we know the

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Speaker 20: extent of the damage. Until the sun comes up, which

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Speaker 20: is still many many hours away, we won't really know

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Speaker 20: if anyone needs help there and the true extent of

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Speaker 20: Milton's force on that side of Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a waiting game, isn't it. Do you know

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Speaker 2: how many people have ignored evacuation orders?

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Speaker 20: No, we don't have an exact number. There was an

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Speaker 20: estimate around today from Tampa officials saying that they believe

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Speaker 20: ninety eight percent of the county here had successfully evacuated.

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Speaker 20: Being on the ground yesterday, I was on Treasure Island,

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Speaker 20: one of those barrier islands. I went there because it

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Speaker 20: was hit by Hurricane Helene less than two weeks ago,

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Speaker 20: and because of that, most residents said to me that

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Speaker 20: they were a big gun shy. They didn't want to

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Speaker 20: go through a second storm this close together. That to

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Speaker 20: them was unprecedented, no matter how many storms they had seen,

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Speaker 20: so they decided to move. I did talk to a

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Speaker 20: handful that decided to stay, a retired firefighter who told me, Hey,

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Speaker 20: I've sat through every one of these storms. I've lived

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Speaker 20: here for seventy years. I'm not leaving. I've built this house,

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Speaker 20: I've got a generate. I'll be fine. I do plan

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Speaker 20: to try and get to him tomorrow to see if

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Speaker 20: he's okay. But that is the kind of attitude that

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Speaker 20: we tend to see from Floridians because they are so

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Speaker 20: used to these hurricanes every single summer, absolutely hammering them

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Speaker 20: along that coast.

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Speaker 2: Allison, just quickly, how do you feel about Hurricane Leslie,

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Speaker 2: which has just been turned into a Category two storm

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Speaker 2: off the coast in the ocean there hitting your way.

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Speaker 20: Well, I've purposely put my blinkers on franchise.

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Speaker 2: Okay, or one hurricane at a time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, correct, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 20: Look, I think everyone is so swept up with what

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Speaker 20: Hurricane Milton is doing right now that Leslie is an afterthought.

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Speaker 20: That sometimes is dangerous thinking, though, because often the ones

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Speaker 20: are a little bit of small Category ones, category twos, they

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Speaker 20: can suddenly ferociously explode into something much bigger. But let's

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Speaker 20: leave that for a problem for night Dog.

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Speaker 2: Allison, you worry about Milton, I'll worry about Leslie for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. Was Allison Trowski.

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Speaker 2: She is the Channel nine reporter in Florida. It is

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Speaker 2: twelve past five, Francisco, right. The government's financial books have

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Speaker 2: sunk further into debt. In the year to June. Treasury

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Speaker 2: has revealed the deficit on the Crown books deepened by

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Speaker 2: three point four billion dollars. It was also one point

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Speaker 2: eight billion dollars worse than Treasury forecast in the May budget.

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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis is the Minister of Finance and she is

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Speaker 2: with us now. Good afternoon, Nicola, thank.

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Speaker 22: You for being with us. Great to be on the show.

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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to these numbers?

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Speaker 22: Well, look, this just underscores the need for the government's

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Speaker 22: ongoing efforts to restore discipline to public spending. Where we

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Speaker 22: were elected on a mandate of tidying up the books,

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Speaker 22: for storing a bit more respect for tax payers money

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Speaker 22: and getting New Zealand back into a more sustainable financial position,

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Speaker 22: and these numbers underscore why that is so necessary. Of course,

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Speaker 22: they relate to the year that's passed, during which a

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Speaker 22: very important event happened, which was a change of government

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Speaker 22: and taking a much more disciplined path going forward.

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Speaker 2: What is driving this? What are the expenses the main ones?

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Speaker 22: Well, look, there's been a real build up in the

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Speaker 22: amount of spending that the government does as a proportion

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Speaker 22: of the overall economy. That's increased dramatically in recent years,

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Speaker 22: adding one hundred and eighteen billion dollars to New Zealand

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Speaker 22: government debt in just five years. And that's what happens

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Speaker 22: when people are all disciplined about the spending choices they make.

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Speaker 22: We've sent significant growth across the public sector. We've seen

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Speaker 22: lots of spending going in lots of different directions, and we've

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Speaker 22: come in and seeing that is not sustainable. Essentially, we're

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Speaker 22: spending more than we earn, that we are living beyond

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Speaker 22: our means, and just like any household or business, we

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Speaker 22: need to get those books back in balance. And we've

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Speaker 22: seen in New Zealanders we've seen that does involve some

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Speaker 22: task decisions. It does mean we can't say yes to

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Speaker 22: everything that we want to. At the same time, we

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Speaker 22: can drive investment where it's needed by pulling our belt

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Speaker 22: in on the things that are less necessary.

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Speaker 2: Minister, can can you just keep cutting? Is that the

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Speaker 2: way we're going to counter it?

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Speaker 22: Well, we've made a pledge that we will continue to

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Speaker 22: invest more in the health system and every single budget

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Speaker 22: that we deliver more funding will go into our schools.

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Speaker 22: We're going to keep funding those important frontline services. But

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Speaker 22: what that requires from us is that we keep looking

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Speaker 22: across all of the spending that the government does to say, well,

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Speaker 22: where's it being wasted? Where's it not going to a

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Speaker 22: good use, where is it not actually delivering good outcomes

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Speaker 22: for the New Zealanders it's meant to serve. And so

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Speaker 22: as committed for as long as I'm Finance Minister, I

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Speaker 22: expect every public agency, every minister, every day to be

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Speaker 22: looking at where's the money not delivering really for tex

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Speaker 22: Player because if we can put that money into a

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Speaker 22: school or a hospital, we should do.

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Speaker 2: You regreet to the tax cuts, the tax cuts in

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Speaker 2: light of.

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Speaker 22: This absolutely not. You know, you can't operate as a

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Speaker 22: government by saying we'll just spend waiver we want and

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Speaker 22: then more treat taxpayers like a bottomless atm who can

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Speaker 22: keep funding that and that was essentially the approach of

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Speaker 22: the last government. They allowed the amount of tax that

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Speaker 22: New Zealanders we're paying to increase dramatically and that was

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Speaker 22: hitting working people. And my view is that every family,

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Speaker 22: every household, knows how to spend their money after their

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Speaker 22: best studs, and as a government we need to respect

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Speaker 22: that our tax cuts were modest.

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Speaker 23: They just restored a bit of balance.

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Speaker 2: creating a three part documentary series of the trial. Donald

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Speaker 2: Mathisone is a professor of media and communications at Canterbury University,

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Speaker 2: and he is with me now, good afternoon, Donald, I

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Speaker 2: sure do we need another project retelling this story?

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Speaker 24: It seems a weava early, and I know that media

875
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Speaker 24: organizations are really keen to get in quite early to

876
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Speaker 24: grab the story before someone else does, and also before

877
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Speaker 24: interest in it wings, But it feels to me too soon.

878
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Speaker 24: After the trial after Owen Hannah's death, thinking of all

879
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Speaker 24: the people who have caught for the trauma of the

880
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Speaker 24: trial and then the inquest, and then they'll be this

881
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Speaker 24: dramatization coming out soon after. So that feels to me like,

882
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Speaker 24: you know, if you're profiting from other people's suffering, you

883
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Speaker 24: need to leave a bit of time to that so

884
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Speaker 24: that that's suffering.

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Speaker 2: Lessons are weaver, I couldn't agree with you more. Is

886
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Speaker 2: there a risk of defamation or an accuracy with media

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Speaker 2: projects like.

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Speaker 24: This if they stick close to the material that was

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Speaker 24: raised in the court. I suppose they are. You know,

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Speaker 24: they'll they'll have people looking closely at that. There was

891
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Speaker 24: a lot of material for them to look at, then

892
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Speaker 24: maybe they'll be okay. I think the worry is more

893
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Speaker 24: that it's kind of relitigating the trial, and I think

894
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Speaker 24: that has to be quite a big public interest in

895
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Speaker 24: doing that. You know, evidence that hasn't been heard or

896
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Speaker 24: things that haven't been dealt with adequately in the trial,

897
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Speaker 24: and then there's a case for someone to come in

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Speaker 24: and and do a public investigation into into the story

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Speaker 24: or a dramatization. But I haven't heard any any statement

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Speaker 24: like that from the from the publicity that's come out.

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Speaker 2: I mean we still have a coronial inquiset to go to,

902
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Speaker 2: don't we. The trial was quite literally live bloged from

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Speaker 2: the court room. What were your thoughts on the ethics

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Speaker 2: of media coverage like this.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, there's always a risk when you're when you're life

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Speaker 24: blogging or live covering a trial, that you'll be focusing

907
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Speaker 24: on the things that have been said in the moment

908
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Speaker 24: and not putting them into the context of each other.

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Speaker 24: And so you're throwing a whole lot of details at

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Speaker 24: people without putting them into context, and that doesn't you know,

911
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Speaker 24: there's a risk to probably understanding of the story there.

912
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Speaker 24: I mean, judges have got the capacity to restrict that.

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Speaker 24: It's worried that something might be said and name suppressed,

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Speaker 24: and that if it was being covered live, that that

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Speaker 24: could go out and for the suppression at risk. But

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Speaker 24: I think the big issue is that it's it can

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Speaker 24: get a bit viuristic. It's about the excitement of hearing

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Speaker 24: things live rather than understanding the justice process in action.

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Speaker 2: Tonal, thank you so much for your thoughts. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That was Donald Mathison, Professor of Media and Communications at

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Speaker 2: Kenterbury University. I just received a text saying Francesca, interesting,

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Speaker 2: sixteen inches of rain is for dred milimeters and that's

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Speaker 2: what had hit Tampa. In Gabrielle we measured seven hundred

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Speaker 2: millimeters and fifteen hours in Hawks Bay. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: that text, Mark. I was thinking about that actually as

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Allison. Good to hear maybe not

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Speaker 2: so much wind in Florida. A lot of rain. Of course,

928
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Speaker 2: there was still so much debris lying around from Helene

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Speaker 2: and that was a big concern in the wind. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of it has moved around, but

931
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Speaker 2: it is a bit of a waiting game there to

932
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Speaker 2: really see what the impact has been. It is twenty

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Speaker 2: three past five year with news talks AB the.

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Speaker 1: Name you trust to get the answers you need, it's

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Speaker 1: Francesca Ruskin on hither Duper c Ellan Drive with one

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Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected news talk as z' be.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your feedback, Hi, Franchisca. I think this

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Speaker 2: Polkinghorn documentary idea is absolutely disgraceful. They have no compassion

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Speaker 2: for Hannah's family. I for one will not be watching it. Well,

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Speaker 2: there's the documentary and now there's going to be a

941
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Speaker 2: limited drama series on it as well, so you'll be

942
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Speaker 2: able to watch the court case unfold again, and then

943
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Speaker 2: you'll be able to what the dramatized version where a

944
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Speaker 2: bit of creative license will be put in place. You know,

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Speaker 2: I tend to look I agreed with what Donald's here before,

946
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Speaker 2: give it time in time. It's so much easier to

947
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Speaker 2: take these things on board, isn't it more. Texian Nicola

948
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Speaker 2: Willis continues to convene. You forget COVID, what it cost

949
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Speaker 2: every government who was empowered at the time, and it's

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Speaker 2: inevitable effect on successive governments. Thanks Bill, Even though our

951
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Speaker 2: debt has got worse, still all for what Willis has done.

952
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Speaker 2: Could you imagine how much worse we would be if

953
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Speaker 2: labor got in? Thank you, muz. And another one here

954
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Speaker 2: back talking about the missing children in the book, Tom

955
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Speaker 2: has robbed and stolen things. It's right to worry about

956
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Speaker 2: these kids. The kids have no social interaction in the

957
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Speaker 2: girls will need personal care products and probably bit of guidance.

958
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Speaker 2: And all those kids are not getting any form of

959
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Speaker 2: measurable education, which will set them back. Thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for that. Hey, coming up shortly, we're going to

961
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Speaker 2: talk about Wellington Council. Willington Wellington City councilors have voted

962
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Speaker 2: against selling the airport shares. What does this mean for

963
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Speaker 2: their long term plan? We're going to talk about that

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Speaker 2: shortly your Newstalk zb.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. It's Francesca Runkin on

967
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Speaker 1: hither Duperzy Alan Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected.

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Speaker 1: News Talk Zedbay.

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Speaker 2: Will you I will be your love? You're with news

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Speaker 2: Talk ZEDB. It is twenty four to six. We're going

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Speaker 2: to get some new data tomorrow morning around immigration and

972
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Speaker 2: it could be more bad news, more key wes leaving

973
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Speaker 2: and fewer migrants coming. So we're going to cover that

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Speaker 2: off with New Zealand Herald Business Editor at Large Liam

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Speaker 2: Dan after six this evening, Hey, it's been Fat Beer Week.

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Speaker 2: Ever heard of this. I've been a fan of this.

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Speaker 2: I've been following this for a few years. You know

978
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Speaker 2: how we have Bird of the Year, it's our thing. Well,

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Speaker 2: in Alaska they have Fat Bear Week and I tell

980
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Speaker 2: you what it does. It does great things for Alaska

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Speaker 2: and I am am proud to say that for the

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Speaker 2: second year in a row a brown bear named one,

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Speaker 2: two eight, because they're all got numbers. Grazer has won

984
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Speaker 2: the fat Bear contest at Catmai National Park and Preserve,

985
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Speaker 2: and she also got her revenge. It was a little

986
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Speaker 2: bit of a pity vote because this summer a large

987
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Speaker 2: male cub, a large male killed her cub, which was

988
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Speaker 2: just horrible. And so Graser bet that bear who was

989
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Speaker 2: named Chunk by more than forty thousand votes. That was

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Speaker 2: cast by fans who watched these live cameras at explore

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Speaker 2: dot org. And that's what I want to get round

992
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Speaker 2: saying that a partner. It's very exciting we have our winner.

993
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Speaker 2: They do this before and after photos. Basically that's what

994
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Speaker 2: they do, and you pick the bear you best believe

995
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Speaker 2: exemplifies winter preparedness by the fat that they've accumulated over

996
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Speaker 2: the summer feeding on the salmon that returned to Brooks River,

997
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Speaker 2: which is home to some of the largest brown bears

998
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Speaker 2: in the world, as they ready themselves for hibernation. So

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Speaker 2: basically they're looking for the bear that's called the fattest,

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Speaker 2: and you reward them. But here's the great thing. If

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Speaker 2: you love cat videos, but you'd quite like your you know,

1002
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Speaker 2: your videos of the of the Animal Kingdom to have

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Speaker 2: a little bit more Jeopardy involved. You know, Paul Cub's

1004
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Speaker 2: been killed various other things. Then go and have a

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Speaker 2: look at a sport dot org. There are live cameras

1006
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Speaker 2: and you actually get to watch these bears sitting in

1007
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Speaker 2: these rivers playing catching salmon. It is absolutely stunning. I

1008
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Speaker 2: can understand and see I can totally understand and see

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Speaker 2: why this has been just such an amazing thing for Alaska. Although,

1010
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Speaker 2: just like Bird of the Year, has its controversies, Fat

1011
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Speaker 2: Bear Week also had to be pushed back a week

1012
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Speaker 2: because there was a fire between two brown bears at

1013
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Speaker 2: the National Park which left one dead, and unfortunately this

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Speaker 2: was captured on the live stream. So just just remember

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Speaker 2: that when you sit down with your kids this weekend

1016
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Speaker 2: and go look at this these incredible bears in Alaska.

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Speaker 2: Just just in the back of your mind, you want

1018
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Speaker 2: to keep that in check. But congratulations to one two

1019
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Speaker 2: eight Grazer who's taken out the title fat Bear for

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Speaker 2: a second time in a row. It is a twenty

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Speaker 2: one two.

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Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local

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Speaker 1: and global exposure like no other okay.

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Speaker 2: Joining me on the huddle tonight, we have Mike Monroe,

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Speaker 2: former Labor Party chief of staff. Good evening, great, how

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Speaker 2: are you good? Thank you? And David Faraki we blog

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Speaker 2: Anchory Upholster. Hi David. Oh hey, look, I just want

1028
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Speaker 2: to throw this out to the two of you. I've

1029
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Speaker 2: made it really clear. I don't need to see anything

1030
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Speaker 2: more about the Pokinghorn trial for a while. I think

1031
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Speaker 2: that Pauline Hannah should just be allowed to rest in

1032
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Speaker 2: peace for a little while. They stood her family and friends.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to see a documentary in a hurry,

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Speaker 2: and I don't need to see a dramatization. You might

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Speaker 2: feel very differently. You might be right up for it, Mikey.

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Speaker 13: No, Look, I tend to agree. It just sort of

1037
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Speaker 13: feels it feels too soon. Look, I know it's been

1038
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Speaker 13: a highly interesting case and a lot of people followed

1039
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Speaker 13: it very closely, and it's been a very salacious case

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Speaker 13: as well, I guess.

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Speaker 4: In many ways.

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Speaker 13: But look, you know, I think these sorts of issues

1043
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Speaker 13: are normally revisited a bit further down the track. I

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Speaker 13: think people who make films and documentaries on such cases

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Speaker 13: tend to provide a bit of space for everyone to

1046
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Speaker 13: sort of absorb what's happened. It just feels unseemly rapid

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Speaker 13: to be talking about a program at this early stage.

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Speaker 2: Would you watch one? Would you watch a dramatization or

1049
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: the doc o' David?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lock Eye Wall. It is a bit too early.

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Speaker 25: Inevitable they were going to do one because it has

1052
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Speaker 25: probably the two elements that appeal genuine debate in the

1053
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Speaker 25: community about who did it, But like the David Bain case,

1054
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Speaker 25: Peter Ellis, etcetera, and of course, as Mike said, very salacious, etcetera.

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Speaker 4: So it was inevitable.

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Speaker 25: But it is a bit bad taste to like you

1057
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Speaker 25: have already started effectively before the trial's over. What does

1058
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Speaker 25: interest me, though, I have to say, is going to

1059
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Speaker 25: be the casting who will play medicine action.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're sucked in, aren't you? You can't wait.

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Speaker 26: Fair enough?

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen, I'd like to talk to you about Wellington City

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Speaker 2: councilors this afternoon. They're voted against selling the airport shares.

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Speaker 2: This is going to have quite an impact on their

1065
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Speaker 2: long term plan. How tricky is this going to make things?

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Speaker 8: Mike, Uh, yeah, it is going to be tricky, And

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Speaker 8: and I felt the sort of case that was made

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Speaker 8: for you for selling the shares and setting sorry selling

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Speaker 8: the shareholding and setting up the investment fund, the perpetual fund,

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Speaker 8: it sort of made sense.

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Speaker 13: I mean, Wellington faced enormous risks in this regard, and

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Speaker 13: I think the case was made previously that that Gelling

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Speaker 13: cheerholding was going to help fund that idea. I think

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Speaker 13: in the ends of politics took over the Labor and

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Speaker 13: Green Party machines have got pretty active on this, and

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Speaker 13: I think that the you know, they whipped into line

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Speaker 13: their counselors. So I think, yeah, it's unfortunate because there

1078
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Speaker 13: was a good economic case in terms of well Eason's

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Speaker 13: future for going ahead with the sale.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the vote was narrow nine to seven against the sale.

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Speaker 2: Where do you think this leaves the council.

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Speaker 25: David probably facing either rates going up or having to

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Speaker 25: cut spending elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: But the big worry is the resilience.

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Speaker 25: A former airport director Paul Release, must make really good case,

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Speaker 25: which is a lot the council needs some capital for

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Speaker 25: when there's something like a big earthquake. Of its commercial

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Speaker 25: investments is tied up in this minority state in the

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Speaker 25: airport and what asset is probably going to plummet and

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Speaker 25: venue after an earthquake the airport because no one's going

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Speaker 25: to be flying in or out for months, and the

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Speaker 25: airport itself could well be damaged.

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Speaker 4: So if the whole purpose.

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Speaker 25: Is resilience, then it's a very bad investment to have. So, yeah,

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Speaker 25: it is a pity it didn't happen, and I think

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Speaker 25: the council has a real problem working out where to

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Speaker 25: go now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be well. Look, I mean Wellington

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Speaker 2: certainly provides us with the Wellington City Council definitely provides

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Speaker 2: us with an awful lot of entertainment.

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Speaker 4: Mic.

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Speaker 2: We just never quite know how it's all going to unfold,

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Speaker 2: do we.

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Speaker 4: Community Brown it makes him look so good.

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Speaker 25: Wayne must like right letters to Wellington every week.

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Speaker 4: Because but by comparison, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I had. I can't remember what

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Speaker 2: we were talking about the other day, but someone did

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Speaker 2: text me and just say could you just send Wayne down?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 15: I get it, but you might.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether you'll be happy about that when

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Speaker 2: he arrives waiting. So let's talk about Community Advocate Dave Lettely,

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Speaker 2: who's had to shut down his South Auckland food bank.

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Speaker 2: He just cannot sustain it. You know, he's feeling pretty

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Speaker 2: down about having to let these families down. But I

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Speaker 2: mean it's also sort of says a lot about where

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Speaker 2: we're at for a lot of charities and things, doesn't it, David.

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Speaker 2: It's just tough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great on them.

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Speaker 25: What he has done has been amazing, and it is

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Speaker 25: really sad that the support from corporate is something there

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Speaker 25: like it used to if you look for silver lining.

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Speaker 25: He did say a number of families accessing the services

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Speaker 25: dropped from a thousand to a couple of hundreds. But

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Speaker 25: let's not be There's always going to be people who

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Speaker 25: need food banks, etc.

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Speaker 4: So it's just a matter of hoping that the other

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Speaker 4: providers out there, like the missions, etc. Can step up.

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Speaker 2: Is this what is this a job for community advocates

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Speaker 2: like Dave Mike?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 13: Look, the good thing about well, I shouldn't really say

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Speaker 13: a good thing. What I would point out is that

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Speaker 13: in South Auckland there are a lot of food banks.

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Speaker 13: I actually got online the South to munt check the

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Speaker 13: distribution in South Auckland, and there's about ten or a

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Speaker 13: dozen food banks scattered through that region, which just tells

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Speaker 13: you something about the sort of number of people in

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Speaker 13: that area of requiring help, and it just underlines the

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Speaker 13: inequality in our society is really impacting on an area

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Speaker 13: like South Auckland. I think the service littally was providing

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Speaker 13: was you know, it was a tremendous one, but as

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Speaker 13: David pointed out, demand for his particular service has fallen

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Speaker 13: off in recent times. I think Littelly has always been

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Speaker 13: us of a larger than life figure because his sporting background,

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Speaker 13: his dad's sort of mungol and mob connections, et cetera.

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Speaker 13: So there's always going to be a lot more focus

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Speaker 13: I guess on David Telly's service in South Aukrind but.

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Speaker 2: That I wouldn't A lot of charity is doing it tough.

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Speaker 13: Well they are, Yeah, I mean that they are doing

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Speaker 13: it tough, and I guess it just as I say,

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Speaker 13: underlines the real inequality issues that we still haven't addressed

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Speaker 13: properly in this country. We shouldn't have to we shouldn't

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Speaker 13: have to rely, shouldn't have to rely on so many

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Speaker 13: food banks picking up the slack like that.

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Speaker 4: But it's just a factive life and we've got.

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Speaker 13: To find a better way of making sure that they

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Speaker 13: can provide their service, you know, efficiently and comprehensively.

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Speaker 2: You're with the Huddle. We're going to take a quick

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Speaker 2: break at is A fourteen.

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Speaker 1: To sex the Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty

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Speaker 1: elevate the marketing of your home.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're with the Huddle. And I guess and Mike

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Speaker 2: Munroe and David Farrer, David. I just I woke to

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Speaker 2: the Minister of Finance, Nichola Willis, and I asked her

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Speaker 2: if if you take a look at the government's financial books,

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Speaker 2: which have sunk further into debt, whether she was still

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Speaker 2: whether she regretted the text cuts and she said no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no. Do you think she might be I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think so.

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Speaker 25: No, not her old lock twelve years of stealth tax

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Speaker 25: increases that they had to be offering people something and

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Speaker 25: you can disagree over that numbers, but they did make

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Speaker 25: some cut s elswhere.

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Speaker 4: But what we now have is I've just been looking

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Speaker 4: at the numbers.

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Speaker 25: We're paying ten billion dollars a year in interest on

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Speaker 25: the debt that's built up over the last twenty years

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Speaker 25: or so, and think of what you could do with

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Speaker 25: that ten billion dollars if you weren't seeing it to

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Speaker 25: banks and overseas lenders.

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Speaker 4: Et cetera. So yeah, you can get into a virtuous circle.

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Speaker 25: They get back into surplus and they start paying the

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Speaker 25: debt down. Then the interest payments stared dropping. You have

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Speaker 25: more money for health education. So there's a switching point

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Speaker 25: where you go from really tough to actually things become

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Speaker 25: easier from a fiscal point.

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised by those numbers, Mike, I mean we've

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Speaker 2: been we've been hearing about what's happening to health New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: We know that there have been higher acc claims, gost

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Speaker 2: all sorts of things. I wasn't hugely surprised, were.

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Speaker 13: You No, I wasn't, And I think I think Nicola

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Speaker 13: Willis is now discovering the sort of grim realities of

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Speaker 13: her job. You know, there's enormous cost pressures in the economy,

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Speaker 13: and I've been there for a long time. Robertson struggling

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Speaker 13: to deal with them in the latter days the labor

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Speaker 13: government and now Nicola Willison's sort of inherited them. You know,

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Speaker 13: government expenses have gone up by I think it was

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Speaker 13: eleven percent over the last year and revenue has only

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Speaker 13: gone up by nine percent, and therein lies the problem.

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Speaker 4: These enormous pressures.

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Speaker 13: Are just making it very very hard to get on

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Speaker 13: top of the deficit. And I disagree with David around

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Speaker 13: the tax cuts. I do think they were a good

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Speaker 13: idea at the stage. I mean, the government has to

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Speaker 13: commit fourteen billion dollars those tax cuts over the next

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Speaker 13: four years, and that money would have gone a long

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Speaker 13: way to easing the problems elsewhere in the economy. I

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Speaker 13: know that national government's always dangled the sort of the

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Speaker 13: tax cuts policy in front of voters come election time,

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Speaker 13: but I just think they didn't really take account of

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Speaker 13: the enormous pressures and the problems that they were facing

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Speaker 13: when they came into government ten twelve months ago. So

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Speaker 13: I think that they're now been demonstrated to have been

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Speaker 13: a very rash move.

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Speaker 2: David, how does this impact the deadline for returning to

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Speaker 2: the government books returning the government books to surplus In

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, that was sort of a was announced,

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Speaker 2: but now it feels a bit more like a casual chat.

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Speaker 25: Well, it technically doesn't impact it because it's about the year.

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Speaker 25: It's me as Mike says, you've got these massive cost

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Speaker 25: pressures there.

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Speaker 4: The best way is actually economic grown.

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 25: If you've got the economy grown at three percent, not

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01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 25: in recession or one percent, text revenue grows, it grows

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Speaker 25: fast and expenses that's how you get back into it.

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Speaker 25: So what they've actually just announced this week, which is

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Speaker 25: the fast track projects. If they actually passed that bill

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Speaker 25: and they get fifty one hundred projects and centered and

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Speaker 25: construction starting on them, there is the s stuff that

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Speaker 25: is actually gained to help them get there. But if

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Speaker 25: you don't have the economic growth, it becomes really hard.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Thank you both very much, Mike Monroe and David Farrer.

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Speaker 2: And next hour we will have been McNaughty with us

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Speaker 2: Wellington City councilor to talk about that vote today that

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Speaker 2: took place. The councilors voted against selling the airport shares.

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Speaker 2: So he will be with us just after six. It

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Speaker 2: is seventy six on.

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Speaker 1: Your smart speaker, on the iHeart alf and in your

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Speaker 1: car on your drive home. Heather Duplus see allan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand one giant Leap for Business News

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Speaker 1: Talk zebby.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your feedback this out. Hi, I'm zeb

1245
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Speaker 2: I'm enjoying my national text cut and new childcare subs.

1246
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: It's a meaning we can buy more groceries and take

1247
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: the kids out more. Thank you, Ben. The only street

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Speaker 2: to Wellington is Tory Funer i e. Bordeaux Bakery, Thornton

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Speaker 2: Key or whatever key. As I am a transient contributor,

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Speaker 2: her equivalent was just Sindra A Durnham Grant Robertson and

1251
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 2: look how they've screwed New Zealand. Look at a Tago

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Speaker 2: University rating on a world basis, well done, Grant. If

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Speaker 2: you look at criminal negligence, consider An Robertson and Funo

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Speaker 2: Torium high zedby a big win for Wellington today keeping

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Speaker 2: ownership of our airport. It's time to send in the

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Speaker 2: commissioners to sort this council out. The possibility I might

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Speaker 2: have as you can probably hear a bit of a

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Speaker 2: struggle with the voice today, just coming out of the

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Speaker 2: end of a cold and when I said Polkinghorn, I

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01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: might have just slightly said it differently, which would have

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Speaker 2: turned into quite a yeah one of those which yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was just purely sort of trying to get the

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Speaker 2: voice out there. But that gave a few of you

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Speaker 2: a laugh. So thanks for your decks on that one. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we talk a lot about scams, don't we, And we

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Speaker 2: talk a lot about how banks can be stepping up

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Speaker 2: to put another layer of protection into help pass, just

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Speaker 2: to make sure that we don't make a mess of things.

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Speaker 2: And I'm really pleased to say that next month the

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Speaker 2: banks are going to introduce a confirmation of PAYE system.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fully in place by easter of

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Speaker 2: next year. It's going to affect your app, online banking.

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Speaker 2: It's going to affect when you do banking at the branch.

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Speaker 2: Every time you make a transaction, it is going to

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Speaker 2: it's going to check that the person you're sending it

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Speaker 2: to and their number are correct, that they align. So

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Speaker 2: it just then allows you to double check you're sending

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Speaker 2: it to the right person and yes, that is their account. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's not going to stop stop all scams, is it. Still?

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Speaker 2: We still have to play a large part in this

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: and and use our noggins. But it is great to

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: see the banks are doing something about this. So we

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Speaker 2: will be talking about this after six pm. Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: We've got news you with news talks a b.

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Speaker 8: When you're not here, win me, I'm falling a falling

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Speaker 8: and fun.

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Speaker 25: Can you see.

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Speaker 1: You're talking on your freaking the lesson? What's down on?

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Speaker 1: What were the major calls and how will it affect

1290
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Speaker 1: the economy of big business? Questions on the Business Hour

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Speaker 1: with Francesca Rudkin and My Hr on NEWSTALKSTB.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you with us. Shortly we're going to

1293
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Speaker 2: talk to New Zealand Herald Business Editor at Large Liam

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Speaker 2: Dan about immigration. We get new data tomorrow morning and

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Speaker 2: it could be more bad news, more kiwis leaving and

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Speaker 2: a fewer migrants coming. Jamie McKay is going to join

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Speaker 2: us this our host of the Country. He's going to

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Speaker 2: talk about Federated Farmers Southland and why they're calling for

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Speaker 2: local farmers to boycocout fish and game and remove fishing

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Speaker 2: access from their land. And of course we'll be heading

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Speaker 2: to the UK at the end of the hour right

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Speaker 2: Wellington City councilors have voted against selling the Airport shares.

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Speaker 2: Council currently owns a thirty four percent stake in Wellington

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Speaker 2: Airport and the shares needed to be sold in order

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Speaker 2: to make its recently adopted long term planned viable. The

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Speaker 2: vote was narrow nine to seven against the sale, So

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Speaker 2: what does this mean for the council now, Wellington City

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Speaker 2: Councilor Been McNulty joins me.

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Speaker 23: Now, thanks for being with us, ben Culor Francesca, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Are you happy with the outcome?

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Speaker 23: I am ecstatic?

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Speaker 4: Why this so?

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Speaker 23: In June when we passed our long term plan, there

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Speaker 23: was already a public on the record majority of councilors

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Speaker 23: who said, actually, no, we don't want to perceive the

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Speaker 23: sale of our airport shares as part of the long

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Speaker 23: term plan. Any opportunity for the councilor to express However,

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Speaker 23: in a vote that opposition was nine to us and

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Speaker 23: we've tried to that's actually the fourth time we've tried

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Speaker 23: since June the R and E. I looved up to

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Speaker 23: the flight path right now and there's a plane over me.

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Speaker 23: The fourth time since Juon that we have tried to

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Speaker 23: bring a vote on this issue. And today we have

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Speaker 23: just reaffirmed what could have been done in June. And

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Speaker 23: it actually the support's not there at council. It's time

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Speaker 23: to call it quit.

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Speaker 4: To move on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good to have you say. Did you expect it

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Speaker 2: to be as narrow as it was?

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Speaker 23: But I was always confident that we had the numbers.

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Speaker 23: You know, from an early point on we had a

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Speaker 23: majority at council who have for very different ideological reasons.

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Speaker 23: We had a little bit of I called it the

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Speaker 23: unholy coalition, but we still all made it clear that

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Speaker 23: we did not believe the sale of the airport shares

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Speaker 23: at this time was warranted more justified.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ben, So what does this mean for the long

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Speaker 2: term plan?

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Speaker 23: Yes, so fortunately Vermayor has been in the statement that

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Speaker 23: she is not going to try and relitigate the airport

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Speaker 23: issue because it could have gone on and gotten a

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Speaker 23: lot mess here. So what this means now is that

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Speaker 23: we do need to go back to Wellingtonians and look

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Speaker 23: at our issues. Clearly there's some need for spinning cuts

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Speaker 23: has been addressed that we will need to put to

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Speaker 23: Wellingtonians and that will go through consultation and we all

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Speaker 23: have a look at prioritizing what's really important for the

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Speaker 23: rest of traying and what's not so important, and we'll

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Speaker 23: usk Wellingtonians for review and next year we will pass

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Speaker 23: the annual plan in June and that will incorporate no

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Speaker 23: sale of the airport whilst changes to the budget. That

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Speaker 23: we need to do to move forward is it going

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Speaker 23: to have an impact on rates. This is Look, it's

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Speaker 23: a good question. At this point, we're not sure remembering

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Speaker 23: selling the airport would have had an impact on rates

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Speaker 23: because the airport's returned around ten to eleven percent consistently,

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Speaker 23: where the estimates that are a fund would do about

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Speaker 23: eight percent. So we're actually we're going to establish a

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Speaker 23: shortfall in our rates funding by moving the asset from

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Speaker 23: the airport into a perpetual investment fund. So there is

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Speaker 23: a possibility that there could be some rates impacts, but

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Speaker 23: there'll be hard decisions in front of counselors, things that

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Speaker 23: really test us. But that's a conversation. I think most

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Speaker 23: swelling Tonians expect us that we should have already had

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Speaker 23: and we will be happy moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Then I can I can you know, I hear your

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Speaker 2: frustration about the way the whole decision has been made

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Speaker 2: in the process. Do you think there are still concerns

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Speaker 2: about how this decision makes counsel look and this process

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Speaker 2: that you've been through, Well, laughing top, you.

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Speaker 23: Know, I can't really express it any different than us.

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Speaker 23: We do a resident satisfaction, so they broken down by

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Speaker 23: the words, So I represent the Norman suburbs of Whaling

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Speaker 23: and my ward had the lowest satisfaction of any of

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Speaker 23: the five wards in Wellington nine percent of people that

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Speaker 23: proved of the way council makes this decision. So I've

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Speaker 23: been acutely aware that the way we've been going about

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Speaker 23: things has not been appropriated and has not brought the

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Speaker 23: community with us. At the same time, there has been

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Speaker 23: overwhelming opposition from the community to this proposal, and I

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Speaker 23: hope that they see today actually counselors can come together

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Speaker 23: and listen to the community and put forward something that

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Speaker 23: the community wants to see, which in this case was

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Speaker 23: no sale of the shares, and we might just start

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Speaker 23: the journey of rebuilding that trust. It is a year's

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Speaker 23: journey to happen. But if we just put one top

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Speaker 23: forward today, then I said, that is a sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Ben, Look, I really appreciate your time this evening. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much. Were you coming to us from a

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Speaker 2: bood avery?

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Speaker 7: Ah?

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Speaker 23: No, this is this is the beauty of Wellington and

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Speaker 23: real world. In our population with two indu trees, you know,

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Speaker 23: it is a beautiful city and despite the fundamentals, we

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Speaker 23: are a great place to live. So you're hearing all

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Speaker 23: the native Wildlife.

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Speaker 2: I thought you had a soundtrack on behind you been

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Speaker 2: that's lovely. Thank you very much, lovely to hear the birds.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Liam dan Is with us to talk immigration.

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Speaker 2: It is twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Dupice

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Speaker 1: Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the

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Speaker 1: HR platform for SME on newstalksb.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Herald Business Editor at Large. Liam dan Is

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Speaker 2: with me.

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Speaker 11: Now, good evening, Hi, Francisca.

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Speaker 2: Hey, talking about immigration. We're going to get some new

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Speaker 2: data tomorrow morning. Ah yeah, could be good, could be bad.

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Speaker 2: Which way do you reckon is.

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Speaker 26: Going to go well?

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Speaker 16: I mean, I guess you can read migration and people do.

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Speaker 16: It's just very political. You can read it all sorts

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Speaker 16: of ways. It's going to be interesting. We're going to

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Speaker 16: see I guess, a continuation of a large number of

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Speaker 16: Kiwi's leaving I expect, and we're also going to see

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Speaker 16: probably a net migration game for the year to the

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Speaker 16: end of August or something like sixty thousand or something

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Speaker 16: like that, which looks good. But we're seeing the numbers

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Speaker 16: of people come down, a number of people coming into

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Speaker 16: the country come down quite sharply, and so when you

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Speaker 16: look at the last few months and if you extrapolate

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Speaker 16: them forward, you've got economists saying that actually, if people

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Speaker 16: keep leaving at the rate they're leaving, we may have

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Speaker 16: sort of a net population gain of zero next year,

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Speaker 16: which is going to be quite a shock to the

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Speaker 16: system because we've you know, in the year two October

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Speaker 16: twenty twenty three, we had this record one hundred and

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Speaker 16: thirty six thousand gain to the population. So if you

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Speaker 16: think about that number of people coming in looking for homes, cars,

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Speaker 16: all that sort of consumerism, that's not going to be there.

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Speaker 16: So that is actually going to be a little bit

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Speaker 16: of a headwind, even with interest rates making lower and

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Speaker 16: making life a bit easier in terms of the economy

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Speaker 16: turning round, I mean, it is just not going to

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Speaker 16: be as many people coming in to drive the activity

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Speaker 16: that we're used to. So really interesting on watch just

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Speaker 16: to see if any signs of you know, turnaround in

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Speaker 16: Kiwi's leaving especially, I think, and.

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Speaker 2: It's which Kiwis are leaving as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible thing to say, but but you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's who we're losing and who we're gaining. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you want to be yeah, I mean you counsel

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 16: You've got to have job opportunities. You've generally got to

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Speaker 16: got to be uh. You know, so we're losing some

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Speaker 16: of our brightest and most educated people because there are

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Speaker 16: really high paying opportunities just across the Tasman and Australia

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Speaker 16: and other places. And of course migrants aren't coming here

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Speaker 16: in the same numbers because they just aren't the jobs. So,

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Speaker 16: you know, as unemployment rises, you know, it's a huge

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Speaker 16: thing to pack up and move across the other side

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Speaker 16: of the world. And you're not going to do it

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Speaker 16: if the economy is in bad shape, which ours has

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Speaker 16: been for the last few months at least.

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Speaker 2: And is that the main thing which is probably preventing migration?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is there is there a simple thing we

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Speaker 2: could do or not as simple, it's probably going to

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Speaker 2: be complex, but or is there what would be the

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Speaker 2: one thing that would need to happen for us to

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Speaker 2: see those migration figures increase?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's it's hard.

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Speaker 16: It's easy to flick a switch when you've got large

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Speaker 16: numbers of people wanting to come in like we had.

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Speaker 16: We had a labor shortage and we flipped a switch

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Speaker 16: and a huge influx, but that has dropped away. It

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Speaker 16: really is a bit of a chicken and egg thing.

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Speaker 16: We need to get the economy going. It's almost I mean,

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Speaker 16: there are economists who'd argue this is good good for us,

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Speaker 16: that we actually rely too much on migration gain and

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Speaker 16: it underpins the housing market and all the rest.

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Speaker 11: We maybe need to sweat the economy.

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Speaker 16: A bit, and that's where the productivity that everyone's talking

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Speaker 16: about comes from.

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Speaker 11: Is not having the easy fixes.

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Speaker 16: We've got to do it ourselves with the population we've got.

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Speaker 11: But then when things are looking better again, I'm hopeful that.

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Speaker 16: There's be some discussion about a sort of a policy

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Speaker 16: on immigration that has a steady sort of net gain

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Speaker 16: without the big booms and busts that we seem to

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Speaker 16: keep going through.

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Speaker 11: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't. I mean we've also got to

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Speaker 2: talk about the losing keywee's as well, because I keep

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Speaker 2: sort of reading articles and things coming out of Australia

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Speaker 2: with commentators saying, actually, things aren't great here. Why do

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Speaker 2: the kiwee's keep coming?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Like thanks, I wanted to go off the right of head.

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Speaker 2: They keep coming and it's and it's almost like we

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Speaker 2: don't care. People are done and dusted and they're going

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Speaker 2: to go and look for something else somewhere else. Ye,

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Speaker 2: this mentality, don't we.

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Speaker 16: Very very down to the economy. So if Australia's economy

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Speaker 16: does continue to struggle and if they're unemployment rate rises,

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Speaker 16: then you'll see that that turn off that opportunity. So

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Speaker 16: that's happened before, you know, So it's not all in

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Speaker 16: our you know, in our control. But yeah, it's all

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Speaker 16: about opportunity really, and yes, definitely want to see some

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Speaker 16: better opportunity here on the side of the Tasman if

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Speaker 16: in comparison to Australia we start to look a bit

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Speaker 16: better again, that would be quite nice to I suppose.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the government's books, Liam.

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Speaker 16: Sobering said Nichola Willis. I don't know, make you want

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Speaker 16: to have a drink.

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Speaker 11: Look, they've got worse.

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Speaker 16: We knew they were going to get worse. That's not

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Speaker 16: actually a surprise, but they were.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 16: Worse than Treasury had thought. So so the whole thing,

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Speaker 16: the deficit got worse. It's deep into three point four

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Speaker 16: billion for twenty three twenty four year, but that was

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Speaker 16: one point eight billion worse than expected.

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Speaker 11: I don't know at this point what's another one point

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01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 11: eight billion.

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01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 16: It does get a bit abstract. We know we've got

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 16: to turn it around. Nicola Willis said the right things

1518
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 16: about you know, and it backs up her line that

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01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 16: we need to maintain this fiscal constraint. An even better

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01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 16: way would be to get the economy humming and taken

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 16: more tax. We took in a little bit more tax

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 16: through the year, but that was kind of inflation related.

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 16: It was just because people were earning more wages, partly

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01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 16: because of the wage rises and the inflation.

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Speaker 11: That'll be gone. So we really have to drive that

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01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 11: real growth.

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Speaker 16: And I know, keep coming back to it and harping

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01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 16: on about it, but it's going to be have to

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 16: be some real productive growth. We're gonna have to sort

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 16: of sell more exports to the world and produce things

1531
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 16: and find a way to work a bit smarter and

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 16: invest in new technology and all that sort of stuff

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 16: to deliver a bit more tax to the government, I guess.

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Speaker 2: Liam Dan, thank you so much for your time. That

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01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 2: was New Zealand Herald Business Editor at Large, Liam Dan

1536
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: and as we mentioned, those immigration figures will be out

1537
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. Right ten planned solar farms are among one

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine projects that are going to be

1539
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 2: highlighted in the government's one stop shop Fast Track Approvals bill.

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: We're going to hear from Jamie McKay what his thoughts

1541
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: are on this shortly. You're with a Heather du Pluice

1542
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: All and drive. I'm Francisco Rudcan filling in Heather. We'll

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01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: be back with you on Monday. It is twenty past six.

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results at Francesca Ruggan

1545
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: with the Business Hour thanks to my HR, the HR

1546
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: solution for busy Smmy's on News Talk ZB.

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01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: Host of the Country, Jamie McKay joins me. Now, Hi,

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01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,839
Speaker 2: Jamie gooda.

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01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 26: Fr Francisca get it right, long time listener, her first

1550
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 26: time caller. Lovely to talk to you.

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01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm the same. I am a longtime listener of the

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01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 2: country as well. Hey, tell me about what's happening in

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01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: South On. The Federated Farmers are calling for local farmers

1554
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: to boycott fishing game and remove fishing access across the land.

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01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's a bit like the gunfight at the Ok Corral.

1556
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 26: So the guts behind this is that farmers have always

1557
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 26: allowed anglers to walk across their land down to the

1558
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 26: river to go fishing. But that goodwill, says Federated Farmers,

1559
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 26: has been completely eroded by fish and Game South and

1560
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 26: they're saying Federated Farmers are saying, we're fed up with

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01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 26: fishing games, persistent belligerent anti farming rhetoric, and their opposition

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,560
Speaker 26: to everything we do. He goes on to say, this

1563
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 26: is Jason Herrick from Federated Farmers, the local president down there.

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01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 26: We're now calling for local farmers to join us in

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01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 26: boycotting fishing licenses, so don't buy any fishing licenses, and

1566
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 26: to remove fishing access for anglers by taking down the

1567
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 26: access signs. Farmers can replace those signs with an orange

1568
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 26: ribbon to show their frustration with fish and game. Now

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01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 26: Herrick emphasizes that the boycott is in Southland only. It's

1570
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 26: come about or been sparked by a recent court decision

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01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,839
Speaker 26: around the silly RIMA. Would require more than three thousand

1572
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 26: Southland farmers. That's probably about how many are down there

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01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 26: to apply for a resource consent francisca just to keep

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01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 26: on farming. Fish and Game was one of the main

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01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 26: groups leading the charge for this legislation or supporting it.

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01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 26: Feeds are saying it's an absolute kick in the guts

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 26: for the farmers. They say Fish and Game are using

1578
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 26: license funds against farmers and against all New Zealanders by

1579
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 26: making land use so difficult, and for what it's worth.

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01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 26: I'm with Federated Farmers on this one.

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01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: So, Jamie, why would you have to apply for a

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01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 2: resource consent to continue farming?

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 26: What was the reason behind some stupid clause in the

1584
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 26: RAMA Act? And my eyes glaze over when you mentioned

1585
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 26: that acronomic it's section seventy Francesca. But no, well, no

1586
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 26: one understands. David Park is the only one who understands,

1587
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 26: and thank goodness he isn't there anymore. But look, it's

1588
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 26: basically a glitch. It will get fixed. I was talking

1589
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 26: to a Federated Farmer's executive member, Bernadette Hunt on my

1590
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 26: show today. She said, we will get rid of this,

1591
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 26: but in the meantime they're just rarely peeveed off that

1592
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 26: Fish and Game have been leading the charge against them,

1593
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 26: because up until recently they've lived harmoniously together and I've

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01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 26: got farming friends who farm on the river rivers down

1595
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 26: in South and they're happy for anglers to go down

1596
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 26: to the river as long as they shut the gates

1597
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 26: after them.

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Speaker 2: Jamie, are you excited about these ten solar farms which

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01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,959
Speaker 2: planned and are going to hopefully come through the government's

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: Fast Track Approvals Bill.

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Speaker 26: Well, I'm not quite sure if I'm as excited as

1602
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 26: the Minister of digging it up and damming it up,

1603
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 26: Shane Jones Francisca. But look, it's good. Of these one

1604
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 26: hundred and forty nine projects that he's fast tracked, ten

1605
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 26: of them are solar farms. There's another or they're part

1606
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 26: of twenty two renewable electricity projects. The remaining twelve include

1607
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 26: wind farms and hydro electricity plus and those solar farms,

1608
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 26: by the way, range from two hundre nineteen hectes six

1609
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 26: hundred and seventy hectis. That's a sizable soul of farm.

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01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 26: And I think the interesting one for me that's back

1611
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 26: on the table now is the Ruetani Far Dam in

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01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 26: Central Hawk's Bay. It got kai boss for a number

1613
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 26: of reasons, but certainly fast tracking it might help that

1614
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 26: go through because that region getting very dry at the moment,

1615
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 26: needs more water storage. Simple as that.

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01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: I brought a lot of ticket last night, Jamie. I

1617
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: was hoping to pocket just a sweet fifteen million, but

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01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 2: that wouldn't be enough to get me close to buying

1619
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: Tasmania's large As farm, which is back on the market.

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01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 26: Yeah, and it's owned by a New Zealand farming family,

1621
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 26: an iconic farming family that of the late Allan Pye.

1622
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 26: He purchased the farm in nineteen ninety six for eight

1623
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 26: million dollars. He's hoping to get one hundred million when

1624
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 26: it comes back on the market. That's a twelve hundred

1625
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 26: percent return on investment. Albeit he brought it way back

1626
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 26: in nineteen ninety six. Look, this is twenty two thousand hectares,

1627
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 26: about fifty thousand acres. It's got everything you want in

1628
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 26: a farm that size. It runs dairy, beef and sheep,

1629
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 26: has extensive irrigation. It was listed to sale in twenty

1630
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 26: seventeen at a poultry seventy million. It's now on the

1631
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 26: market for one hundred million and since then Francesca Rushi

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01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 26: lagoon As. The farm has been slated for a multi

1633
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 26: billion dollar wind farm development. So that'll be money for

1634
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 26: jam as well, getting all the money off that, so

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01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 26: it'll be interesting. Alan Pie, by the way, the late

1636
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 26: Alan Pie, who passed away earlier this year, made his

1637
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 26: fortune from spuds. A true blue farmer.

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01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: Oh Jamie, you should have snuck in there when it

1639
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: was only seventy million.

1640
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 26: Yeah, I should have. It's just out of my reach now.

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01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: So nice to talk to you, Jamie. Thank you for

1642
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: your time, very much, appreciate it. When we come back

1643
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: the Chinese economy and stock market, they're usually in the

1644
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 2: press for all the wrong reasons, weak economic growth. Things

1645
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: are doing quite well. We're going to find out what

1646
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: this means shortly with a news storg ZB.

1647
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics. It's all

1648
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with friend Jessica Rudkins and my

1649
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: HR the HR solution for busy SMEs, news talks, Abdy.

1650
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 21: Favor and.

1651
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: You're with news stork ZB. It is twenty three to

1652
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: seven and it feels like it's taken a long time,

1653
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,799
Speaker 2: but it's finally here. Banks are going to start introducing

1654
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: confirmation of paye from the end of November. It'll be

1655
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 2: fully operational by Easter next year. It's just another level

1656
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: of protection, you know, hopefully you know, to help us

1657
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: to prevent us from falling to those very clever, tricky

1658
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: scanners scammers out there. So we're gonna be talking about

1659
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: that in just a moment. I'd just love to cover

1660
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 2: off a little bit of your feedback as well, a

1661
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: lot of texts coming and just saying bring in the

1662
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 2: missioners when it comes to Wellington. Wellington has wasted great

1663
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,959
Speaker 2: payers money for too long time to have a commissioner

1664
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: to manage this mess that is Wellington City Council or

1665
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: though there have been a few people from total who've

1666
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: been saying you might want to think twice about that

1667
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: and the result that they've had. On the immigration, I

1668
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: thank goodness few people coming to New Zealand, especially Auckland.

1669
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: School's overflowing roads are choked. Migrants are arriving with special

1670
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: needs kids requiring considerable extra support at schools. Well there's

1671
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: lots of kids that need extra sport. But I get

1672
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: where you're coming from. Thank you very much for your feedback.

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01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 2: Franchiers good Okay, joining me now is Sam Dicky from

1674
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: a Fisher Funds. How are you doing, Sam?

1675
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 27: Good evening, Good Wells good to talk to you.

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01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: Now, the China economy and stock market, they're usually in

1677
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 2: the press for all the wrong reasons. Like it we

1678
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: were talking about weak economic growth or too much debt

1679
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 2: or unwanted government intervention and a week stock market all that,

1680
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: But the China stock market is by far one of

1681
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: the best performing markets in the world so far this year.

1682
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,839
Speaker 2: What's going on and what does this mean for global investors?

1683
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 27: Yeah, it's a very good point and a bit of

1684
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 27: context there. It is interesting though, there's not many times

1685
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 27: in history that such an important economy has been viewed

1686
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 27: so negatively by so many. So Cha roared into the

1687
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 27: world stage after it entered the WTO in two thousand

1688
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 27: and one, and it was a growth miracle. Let's not forget.

1689
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 27: It pulled more people out of poverty in the shortest

1690
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 27: time in the history. And then I think the rocks

1691
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 27: set in during the GFC, and the government panicked and

1692
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 27: splurged about eight trillion remen b or you are, and

1693
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 27: they built bridges and nowhere gohs cities and tons of

1694
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 27: other wastage, and the country became addicted to it and

1695
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 27: plowing that into property and infrastructure. At the first sign

1696
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 27: of any slowdown, and you add an aging and shrinking

1697
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 27: population and a property slump that is kind of three

1698
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 27: years old in counting now, And that's really the history

1699
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 27: of the Chinese economy.

1700
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So what's been going on with the stock market?

1701
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 27: Then, well, the economy drive the stock market like in

1702
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 27: other countries, but with China's was a twister or sting

1703
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 27: in the tail too. So for years you could avoid

1704
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 27: the low quality state owned enterprises or soees like the

1705
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 27: bloated banks and the steel companies, and invest in fabulous companies,

1706
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 27: fabulous private companies like ten Cent, for example. So for

1707
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 27: the decade ending our inning twenty twenty one, the SOE

1708
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 27: heavy Broad China index was dead flat, did nothing for

1709
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 27: a decade. The private companies like Tencent were up two

1710
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 27: thousand percent. So then the charismatic founder of Ali Baba,

1711
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 27: Jack Maher, reportedly got a little bit too big for

1712
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 27: his boots, and that kick started a rolling series of

1713
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 27: crackdowns on private companies and typhoons. So all of that,

1714
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 27: Francesca culminated in a fourteen year ninety percent under performance

1715
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 27: by the Chinese stock market versus the US stop market.

1716
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: So is it just a few that have made a

1717
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: difference as to what's happening today.

1718
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 27: So what's happened today, that's right, private companies for a

1719
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 27: long period of time did well. But what's happened today

1720
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 27: is the economy has been tracking along pretty poorly, and

1721
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 27: in fact, inflation, which is a key focus for the

1722
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 27: Chinese government given how much debt they've got, has actually

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Speaker 27: slipped sort of flat or negative. So we're actually a

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Speaker 27: sort of partial deflation in China now. So a couple

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Speaker 27: of weeks ago, government fired another stimulus bazooka, so they

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01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 27: cut interest rates, they flushed excess liquidity into the financial markets,

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Speaker 27: they cut mortgage rates, they lowered the down payments on property,

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01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 27: and they infused liquidity into local government so they can

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Speaker 27: lend on infrastructure and other projects. So that was all

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Speaker 27: in a roughly a trillion dollar shot in the arm

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Speaker 27: for the economy and one of the biggest packages we've

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Speaker 27: ever seen in China, almost as big as the GFC

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01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 27: panic stimulus. So that's what's happening at the moment, and

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Speaker 27: you can see our focus they are on avoiding defation

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Speaker 27: given how much debts they have, because if we start

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Speaker 27: to see asset prices go down and obviously debt remains fixed.

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Speaker 27: That's not pretty.

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Speaker 2: So with that change, what does it mean for investors?

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Speaker 27: Yeah, so it's it's important. Of course we need to

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01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 27: watch it. The world's second biggest economy and one of

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01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 27: our major training trading partners, we should care. And it

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01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 27: is a reminder of investors that if everyone is telling

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01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 27: you a country is uninvestable, it pays to push against

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01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 27: the crowd. Because the stock market is the strongest stock

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01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 27: market on earth this year, and it's up. It was

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Speaker 27: up sort of forty percent in two weeks.

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Speaker 6: Thanks again.

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Speaker 27: I was I was going to say, look, I think

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Speaker 27: the question we often get asked is that strength sustainable.

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01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 27: And this is not a new technique by the Chinese government.

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01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 27: We have seen these massive stimulus packages before and this

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01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 27: is this is huge, but the same old issues haven't changed.

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01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 27: Francesca's so tough demographic demographics and aging population, high youth

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01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 27: employment and too much debt. So you can wait and

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01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 27: see whether this big shot in the arm translates into

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Speaker 27: better economic growth.

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Speaker 2: Interesting times. Thank you so much, Sam. That was Sam

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Speaker 2: Dickey there from Fisher Funds. Francesca, okay, so, in a

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01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 2: crucial step towards reducing scams. Banks will introduce a confirmation

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Speaker 2: of payee system next month, to be fully in placed

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Speaker 2: by Easter of next year. The system notifies a customer

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Speaker 2: whether the name and account they're paying to match up

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Speaker 2: or don't. Similar schemes have been successful in Australia and

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Speaker 2: the UK. New Zealand Banking Association Chief Executive Roger Beaumont

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Speaker 2: is with me now, good evening. Thanks for your time, Roger.

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Speaker 21: Oh, thanks for having me, Francesca.

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Speaker 2: So how does this work, this new confirmation of paye system.

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Speaker 21: Well, what it does is simplely tries to match whether

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01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 21: your account that you're paying money into matches the name

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01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 21: of that on that account, and it'll tell you whether

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01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 21: it's a complete match or a partial match or no

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01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 21: match whatsoever. So it just is another level of security

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Speaker 21: and comfort for customers in terms of being confident of

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Speaker 21: when they're paying money away to someone.

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Speaker 2: Is it an instant mechanism when consumers make an online payment.

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Speaker 21: Yes, because it will happen in real time when you're

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Speaker 21: about to enter the deep, when you're entering the details

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Speaker 21: of who you're paying money who and the account number,

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01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 21: and it'll give you that it'll give you that feedback.

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Speaker 2: Well, fantastic before you make the payment, Okay, So it's

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Speaker 2: not like you make a payment and then the bank's

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01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 2: going to check check it all off, and then they're

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01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 2: going to come back to in process that there's going

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Speaker 2: to be no delay on payments.

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Speaker 21: Then no, because it'll be it'll be checking checking with

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Speaker 21: you that you're confident that that's the right match before

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Speaker 21: the payment is actually made.

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Speaker 2: How well will this protect consumers against scams?

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Speaker 21: Well, it will certainly help in the war against scams,

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01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 21: which are a real scourge on our society. But it's

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Speaker 21: really import to remember there is no silver bullet here. Franchise,

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01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 21: but there is no one thing that's going to stop

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01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 21: scams altogether, because scammers are tricky and clever and they

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01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 21: will find workarounds wherever they can. So it's really important

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01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 21: that customers are vigilant in terms of their behavior and

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01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 21: think about really care think ready carefully about who they're

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01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 21: paying and what they're paying for. But this is another

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01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 21: level of protection that will help them in that process.

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Speaker 2: Who drove action for this change.

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Speaker 21: Oh, look at the industry has been working on it

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01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 21: for quite some time. This is quite a big piece

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01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 21: of work that the government also encouraged us to look

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01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 21: at but the industry has worked collaboratively to install this

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01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 21: across the teen retail banks so that they can work

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01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 21: together on this for customers.

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Speaker 2: Can I be honest with you, Roger kind of feel

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Speaker 2: like this would have been a sensible thing to have

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01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: in place earlier, you know, when we started doing online banking.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that someone didn't think about it, but obviously

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Speaker 2: we didn't have the technology then.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, we have moved at pace to implement this

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01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 21: where we're working on a very very type time frame

1813
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 21: to get this live as quickly as possible. And you know,

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Speaker 21: we'll be one of a handful of countries around the

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Speaker 21: world that have this level of technology. So it's not commonplace.

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Speaker 21: It's actually limited in the number of jurisdictions that actually

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Speaker 21: have it in place.

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Speaker 2: And you know, banks are hoping to induce the system

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Speaker 2: next month. It's going to be fully in priced, but

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Speaker 2: fully in place by Easter next year. What does that mean.

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01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: It's sort of it's sort of what's happening in that

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Speaker 2: in that time frame.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's being phased, and that's because banks need to

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Speaker 21: do proper testing of the systems and technology and make

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01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 21: sure that it works appropriately, and they have to make

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01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 21: changes to each of the way his customers interact with

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Speaker 21: their banks, so they'll have to do their online banking,

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01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 21: they'll have to do mobile banking apps, and they'll have

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Speaker 21: to do an in branch and in customer. All as

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Speaker 21: quite unique out ways of providing the service. So it's

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01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 21: quite complex and it's important that they get it right.

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Speaker 21: So it's a much safer an appropriate way to have

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Speaker 21: it staggered and do it when that confident.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Roger. That was New Zealand Banking

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Speaker 2: Association Chief Executive Roger Beaumont with me up next we're

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Speaker 2: going to ge the whole saga about Taylor Swift getting

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Speaker 2: a police escooed in London. It continues on. We're going

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Speaker 2: to head to the UK next year on News DOGSZB.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

1840
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 1: with friend Jessica Rudkin and my HR the HR solution

1841
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: for busy SMS on Newstalg ZB and.

1842
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Speaker 2: We're heading to the UK now and Interbrady joins me.

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Speaker 16: Good evening, Hello, Francasca, i'vely to speak to you, lovely

1844
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 16: to talk.

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01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 4: To you too.

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01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: So Nda was there or was they not undu influence

1847
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 2: from senior politicians attending Taylor swift concert to give her

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01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:06,799
Speaker 2: the police escort.

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Speaker 12: Do you know what, I can't see the problem with this, because, honestly, Francesca,

1850
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 12: the week before she arrived in London, there had been

1851
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 12: a credible terror threat two members of ISIS, alleged members

1852
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 12: arrested in Vienna. The concerts in Austria were called off.

1853
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,759
Speaker 11: It was a huge, huge security risk.

1854
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 12: And Taylor Swift wanted to get to her concert safely,

1855
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 12: and she wanted her fans to get home safely.

1856
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 4: Now we have history here in the UK.

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Speaker 12: The Manchester bombing of a few years back, Ariana Grande.

1858
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 12: Dozens of young people lost their lives in that bombing.

1859
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 12: Now what certain sections of the conservative right wing media

1860
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 12: here are trying to drive is that because senior members

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01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 12: of the government, the Labor government went to watch Taylor Swift,

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01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 12: that that suddenly had ended up with her getting a.

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Speaker 4: Blue light police escort. I can't quite see it myself,

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01:35:59,000 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 4: because can.

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01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 12: You imagine if anything had happened Taylor Swift on English soil,

1866
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 12: these would be the first people jumping up and down saying, well,

1867
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 12: why didn't she get a police escort.

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. It's just time to

1869
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: get over and move on, isn't it. I mean, I

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01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 2: love the woman, but she is a nightly wherever she

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01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: goes because she just attracts so much attention. It's not

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01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 2: really about her. It's more about the free stuff that

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01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 2: the politicians have been getting, really, isn't it.

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01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 12: Look, there is that discussion to be had. But what

1876
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 12: really makes me laugh, Francesca, and I'm just gonna say it, Yeah,

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01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 12: all the people in the media who have been on

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01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 12: the airwaves for twenty four hours talking about this and

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01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 12: writing about it in the newspaper. Guess what they all

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01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 12: got in the summer as well?

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Speaker 11: Free tickets to Taylor Swift Baby.

1882
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 2: I'd just like to make it clear I did not

1883
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: get any free tickets neither, and I couldn't even score what.

1884
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't even pay for them either. So let's move on.

1885
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: Tell me about these two pro Palestinian protesters arrested at

1886
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 2: the National Gallery after throwing red paint on the floor.

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01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 12: So young people, and they're attached to a youth movement

1888
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 12: that has links to just Stop Oil. They went into

1889
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 12: the National Gallery yesterday and they brought with them a

1890
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 12: picture of Agasen mother and child they made for a

1891
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 12: Picasso painting Motherhood. It's called he painted it in nineteen

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01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 12: oh one. They were trying to stick the image of

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01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 12: the Palestinian mother and child over Picasso's painting. Now there

1894
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 12: was no damage done to the painting. And then they

1895
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 12: threw some red paint on the floor, obviously symbolizing bloodshed.

1896
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 12: Very very quickly arrested, but they've made their point. They're

1897
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 12: all over the papers today and I have to say

1898
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 12: feelings running quite high here in both communities in the

1899
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Speaker 12: UK this week of all weeks.

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01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 2: And I've just got thirty seconds. But after one hundred

1901
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: and forty seven years, Wimbledon was going to replace its

1902
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 2: line judges with Ai Tich.

1903
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, we were told Hei would take people's jobs. And

1904
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 12: I think when this first came out, you know, the

1905
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 12: last people who were worried were probably the line judges

1906
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 12: that Wimbledon because it's such an ancient institution, one hundred

1907
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 12: and forty seven years of unbroken service by line judges.

1908
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,759
Speaker 12: I just think we're what we're going to miss, players

1909
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 12: shouting and screen because you can't argue with Ai it's

1910
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 12: gonna you know, I'm going to miss the drama.

1911
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Speaker 11: Francesco.

1912
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. End of Brady loving to talk

1913
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Speaker 2: to you. Thank you for your time. It is six

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Speaker 2: to seven.

1915
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Speaker 1: Whether it's Macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

1916
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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my HR,

1917
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,000
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Speaker 25: Thank you so much for.

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Speaker 2: Having me this evening. I am just visiting Heather. We'll

1920
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: be back on Monday. I'm going to be back with

1921
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 2: you tomorrow from four. Thank you very much for your feedback,

1922
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: and to Libby and Andy for producing the show and

1923
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 2: the rest of the team. What song have you picked

1924
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 2: for us tonight?

1925
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 4: Andy?

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Speaker 17: Tonight Francisco Wire going out with some Jennifer lopiaz Hi.

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01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 17: This one's about Screechy from her, but it's called get

1928
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 17: Right because she's opened up about her Did you know

1929
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 17: that she was married to Ben affleck k.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, A couple of times.

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Speaker 17: I'm asking you that.

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Speaker 2: A couple of times.

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Speaker 6: You're the film buff.

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01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Well yeah, no, no, no, that's okay, Yeah, tell me

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Speaker 2: who is she?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

1937
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Speaker 4: She's okay?

1938
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Speaker 2: Oh good, honest. So she's just opened up about the divorce.

1939
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Speaker 17: Yeah, well I was looking through it though she hadn't

1940
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Speaker 17: even been married that long. So they got married in

1941
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Speaker 17: Las Vegas in July sixteen, twenty twenty two.

1942
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Speaker 2: Did you think it was gonna lie?

1943
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Speaker 6: I had time to marinate?

1944
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Speaker 4: Is it?

1945
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's none of my business, but I just

1946
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Speaker 2: I thought it was a little doomed from the start.

1947
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Speaker 2: Isn't it a terrible than to say about someone's marriage.

1948
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Speaker 2: I don't know, they just look like young lovers and

1949
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It didn't didn't kind of work the

1950
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Speaker 2: first time, but all will wanted it to work, but

1951
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Speaker 2: it just I don't know. I'm I'm not hugely surprised

1952
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Speaker 2: the way things have turned out, but I feel for

1953
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Speaker 2: her and I'm glad she's finding a way to experiences.

1954
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Speaker 17: Yes, so what she said, I can't be looking for

1955
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Speaker 17: happiness and other people. I have to look within myself,

1956
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Speaker 17: don't we?

1957
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Speaker 7: All?

1958
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Speaker 2: Good words to Finnish with good advice to finish with

1959
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Speaker 2: on the show. Thank you so much, Andy. I shall

1960
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Speaker 2: leave you with a little bit of Jennifer Lopez j LO.

1961
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Speaker 17: That's the one, Jennifer, and I'll see it from coming.

1962
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Speaker 2: I'll see it tomorrow night from four decades.

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