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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most powerful

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Speaker 1: defender ever made and used Togstead be well, You're.

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Speaker 2: Welcome the days. The law and order news coming this week.

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Speaker 2: The Healthy Homes rules kicking tomorrow. Some housing data shows

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Speaker 2: what the values are doing. The Prime Minister on funner

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Speaker 2: or at funding and more tax are the lads in

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Speaker 2: the commentary box after eight Richard Arnold's the price they

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Speaker 2: offered plenty as well. Oscar Week welcome to it. Let

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Speaker 2: me share my concern with you. We have now lost

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Speaker 2: to in a row that, in and of itself isn't

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Speaker 2: the end of the world. Saturday's loss was worse than

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Speaker 2: the week before's loss because this last loss we didn't fire.

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Speaker 2: We looked out played, we looked spooked by a side

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Speaker 2: we'd previously beat. And don't forget that. Now here's the trouble.

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Speaker 2: According to Foxtell, who produced the league in Australia, there

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Speaker 2: are six sides that can win the premiership. We are

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Speaker 2: one of them. There's growing excitement around the Panthers, a given.

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Speaker 2: No club in league history apparently has been a reigning champ.

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Speaker 2: Gone on to be as useless as they are, only

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Speaker 2: to recover to go on to win if they pull

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Speaker 2: that trek off. It's a story for the ages. Other

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Speaker 2: sides they say can win, the Bronx, who they call Ropie,

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Speaker 2: but when they get it together are great. I think

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Speaker 2: we might have seen that on Saturday Melbourne the Bulldogs

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Speaker 2: and the Raiders make up the sex. So you can

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Speaker 2: see the problem. Who have we lost to pack any

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Speaker 2: of the five bar the Bulldogs, and those are the

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Speaker 2: teams that beat us. We play the Bulldogs in August.

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Speaker 2: By the way, by then we need to have found

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Speaker 2: the formula to take on sides with a view to

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Speaker 2: not capitulating. There's nothing wrong with a loss to a

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Speaker 2: top side, but when all your losses are to top sides,

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Speaker 2: it means by the time we reach the playoffs, the

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Speaker 2: wins that they come will be more stars aligned than

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Speaker 2: they will be predictable. We are a top eighteen, we

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Speaker 2: are almost certainly a top fourteen. All of that is good,

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Speaker 2: and all of that's what's made this season so full

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Speaker 2: of expectations so far. But when you see the pattern

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Speaker 2: of losses and to who, and now you add some

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Speaker 2: worrying injuries, it gives you pause for thought. Don't you

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Speaker 2: think injuries are largely luck Of course, we survived the

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Speaker 2: start of the season with plenty of those, and we

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Speaker 2: got through it all. But there is something missing on

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Speaker 2: the big occasion Brisbane outplayed us. A slow start's only

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Speaker 2: an issue, by the way, if you don't do something

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Speaker 2: about it. Problem was we didn't do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: Helping was my sister in law's photo yesterday morning from

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Speaker 2: the balcony of her hotel looking down on the warriors

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Speaker 2: sunning themselves by the pool. Recovery is one thing. Sun

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Speaker 2: bathings another. Don't worry, it's not over. Just some thoughts

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Speaker 2: this fingers crossed. There still a.

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Speaker 1: Yes news of the world. In ninety six, the Big.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill is being debated, as we've speak in what

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Speaker 2: a tortuous process that's turning out to be. The Dems

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Speaker 2: doing all they can to stare it.

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Speaker 3: Don't believe me, listener, Senator Tom tell Us.

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Speaker 4: He's been saying loudly, this bill is a bad deal

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Speaker 4: for the middle class.

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Speaker 3: It'll raise healthcare costs and throw millions off of needed healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Republicans borrore a couple of holdouts which they're working on

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Speaker 2: think it will squeak through.

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Speaker 5: Never bet against President Trump. I mean he is on

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Speaker 5: the phone, he is working it. They passed this by

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Speaker 5: one vote out of the House before we're likely to

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Speaker 5: pass it with a similar margin and the Senate. But

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Speaker 5: don't bet against President Trump.

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Speaker 2: And they may need to compromise a bit though.

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Speaker 6: You also have to get elect You know, when you

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Speaker 6: do cutting, you have to be a little bit careful

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Speaker 6: because people don't like necessarily cutting if they get used

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Speaker 2: Also sightside the bloke who won the Mirror primary New

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Speaker 2: York last week, thus making him a shoe and for

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Speaker 2: the MEA's job, he's been busy hosing down for yours.

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Speaker 2: He's a radical.

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Speaker 7: I call myself a democratic socialist in many ways inspired

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Speaker 7: by the words of doctor King from decades ago, who said,

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Speaker 7: call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. There has

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Speaker 7: to be a better distribution of wealth for all of

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Speaker 7: God's children in this country.

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Speaker 2: Right then in Britain, a weekend of angst and negro

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Speaker 2: in the hardened fields of Somerset Asneecap and Bob Villain

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Speaker 2: through a lot of anti Israeli stuff about the place. Now.

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Speaker 2: The BBC also broadcast some of it Live, which ups

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Speaker 8: Well, I thought it's appalling to be honest, and I

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Speaker 8: think the BBC and Glastonbury have got questions to answer

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Speaker 8: about how we saw such a spects call on our screens.

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Speaker 8: But I also think it's pretty shameless publicity stune.

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Speaker 2: But in the fields Zoe, who works with the Guardian,

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Speaker 2: the clue being the Guardian doesn't seem all that fast.

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Speaker 9: He did say free Palestine and the crowd definitely responded

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Speaker 9: to that, but otherwise there was always a beat of

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Speaker 9: like I.

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Speaker 10: Didn't hear a huge amount of energy.

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Speaker 7: In call and response time.

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Speaker 2: Finally, update on the late Princess Diana's caring dress building

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Speaker 2: with a lot of calible flower. She caught it with

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Speaker 2: caring dress as the patients she visited like the colors

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Speaker 2: well have sold over the weekend for eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: power suits and handbase, a lot of them going for

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Speaker 2: over half a million dollars. The auction in the end

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Speaker 2: brought an eight point two five million dollars Here's the

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Speaker 2: World in ninety China's industrial profits. There's still a problem

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Speaker 2: with down nine point one percent, steepest fall and seven months,

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Speaker 2: so that's not good. And we got some inflation a

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Speaker 2: little bit hotter in America than they thought, particularly the

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Speaker 2: core inflation what they call the PCE. They thought two

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Speaker 2: point six came in at two point seven twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on aheard radio

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Speaker 1: how of Bay News Talk seppy.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that happened in Washington over the weekend, the

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Speaker 2: Congo and Rwanda came to town. The Democratic Republic of Congo.

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Speaker 2: They signed a peace deal. Why are the Americans involved

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Speaker 2: in this, Well, it just might mean that they get

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Speaker 2: some lucrative mineral access. So let's hope the fighting stops

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Speaker 2: at least fourteen past six by Greetsmith, A good Monday

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Good Monday morning to you as well.

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Speaker 2: On despite the world around, just look at those markets day.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, we've got trade frictions, we've got geopolitical frictions, we've

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Speaker 10: got the big Bill. But yeah, markets are taken all

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Speaker 10: suppose it's all about better and fed scenarios, if you

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Speaker 10: sort of take that for Waddler's We've got the cease

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Speaker 10: five of course between Iran and Israel, and we've also

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Speaker 10: got one on the trade front between China and the US.

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Speaker 10: Of course, they'd agreed that Geneva last month, but there's

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Speaker 10: and it actually agreed on a framework so Beijing and

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Speaker 10: as well. So look as usual these things, Mike. At

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Speaker 10: the moment, there wasn't a lot of detail, but the

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Speaker 10: investors sort of took the positives, and that sort of

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Speaker 10: overshadows Trump's comments about raising the tariffs on camera over

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Speaker 10: their digital sales tax. Also, yeahsn't he said that we

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Speaker 10: hoped that the agreements reached with a dozen nations by September,

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Speaker 10: So yeah, not July September, So it seems like that's

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Speaker 10: being pushed out a bit. Trump reckons he won't need

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Speaker 10: You also had consumers spending an income that eased a bit,

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Speaker 10: that was down zero point four percent on point one

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Speaker 10: So now they rose a little bit to sixty point

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Speaker 10: things like pretty finely balanced. A lot of uncertainties still

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Speaker 10: bit of uncertainly about who is going to pay for

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Speaker 10: the tariffs and one effect they'll have an inflation. But

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Speaker 10: investors are taking the positives.

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Speaker 2: Now, all right. And Nike and I saw the billion

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Speaker 2: But the market terms seemed to like it anyway.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. So billion dollars in tariffs, so they

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Speaker 10: So we're about sixteen percent of their supply chain is

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Speaker 10: come back to Amazon for the first time since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 10: she is still down five percent year of eight, but

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Speaker 10: up to fifteen percent on Friday.

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Speaker 2: OK, how about us though, were chipper?

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Speaker 10: We're a little bit more chipper here we are. This

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Speaker 10: is the am z Roy Monk Morgan used on consumer

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Speaker 10: With the title. It was called a wintry sunrise. So

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Speaker 10: confidence up six points to ninety eight point eight in June.

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Speaker 10: That was described as a welcome balance after a fall

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Speaker 10: last month. And the big thing it's off and looked

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Speaker 10: at Mike. Of course, as we know, is the inclination

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Speaker 2: about an hour's time too. A couple of interesting topics,

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Speaker 1: You setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the

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Speaker 1: mic costing breakfast with Bailey's real estate doing real estate

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Speaker 2: Was an evacuation on a couple of months ago to

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Speaker 2: new numbers back home though, on our housing market, there's

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Speaker 2: your value dropped? Who's dropped? Auckland, Hamilton Duneed and Wellington

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Speaker 2: Anyone left that went up? Yes? South and Canterbury Marlborough. Taranaki,

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Speaker 2: a Northland CEO of real estate at Velocity. Helen O'Sullivan

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Speaker 2: is with us Helen morning, Good morning, right, so we're

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Speaker 13: That's right. I mean, I think people do focus on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reading over the weekend that some of

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Speaker 13: That's right, there is plenty of stock on the market.

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Speaker 13: We are seeing the days to sell, which is another

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about the money getting cheaper

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Speaker 13: But I think even though we have seen those significant

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Speaker 13: And so we do you know, migration tigers have reached

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Speaker 13: still somewhat soft. And if you're keeping your hands in

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Speaker 2: You alluded to it, but immigration must have played a

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Speaker 2: whether it being rent, a little buyer. But if they're

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Speaker 13: That's absolutely correct, and we can see that in the

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Speaker 2: What's your sense of the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: Helen, did have you on the program? Appreciate it? Helen I.

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Speaker 2: Sullivan CEO of Velocity with us this morning. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: that with the Prime Minister late a six.

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Speaker 14: Forty five international correspondence with ENZII NS for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. What till I give

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Speaker 2: you the details will blow your mind. Richard Arnold, morning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Has he got the numbers or not?

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Speaker 4: Looks like he might be a raise A close, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: You know they often say that getting legislation through it's

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Speaker 4: like sausage making. It's grinding, it's bloody, and you really

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Speaker 4: don't want to look too closely because no one wants

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Speaker 4: to know what's in this stuff on the table right

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Speaker 4: now is what Trump calls.

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Speaker 12: His big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 4: He's all in one plan. Trump critics don't call it

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Speaker 4: the BBB. They call it a monster. And the US

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Speaker 4: Senate was operating through the night last night. Trump Republicans

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Speaker 4: trying to get through a simple procedural measure to open

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Speaker 4: the gates for senat devote to begin in full with

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Speaker 4: a vote on maybe Tuesday or Wednesday this week your time.

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Speaker 4: They won that effort last night by a single vote

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Speaker 4: with two Republicans and all Democrats opposing the scene. So

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Speaker 4: then the dem said, hey, no one's ever going to

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Speaker 4: read this nine hundred and forty page boondoggles. So they

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Speaker 4: demanded that the whole thing be read aloud on the

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Speaker 4: Senate floor, all nine hundred and forty pages. It is

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Speaker 4: airing on the government's backup TV channel c Span two.

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Speaker 4: I cannot imagine just who was watching this thing except

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Speaker 4: me for thirty seconds or so when a Senate clerk

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Speaker 4: choked up on page six hundred and forty something.

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Speaker 12: And I think this was.

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Speaker 10: Just score in twenty six sixty six million to be

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Speaker 10: right from all contributions and to remain available ontil the

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Speaker 10: end of fiscal year twenty three passage grinding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Behind the scenes, Trump was threatening one of his

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Speaker 4: own party holdouts, Senator Tom Tillis. He's just grandstanding, said Trump.

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Speaker 4: He said he's going to screen out of poligal wannabes

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Speaker 4: who would challenge Less for his seat next year. The

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Speaker 4: other Republican hold out, with Senator around Paul Trump calls

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Speaker 4: him crazy. Meantime, Republican Josh Hawley said he was worried

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Speaker 4: that one point one trillion in cuts to healthcare for

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Speaker 4: the medicaid and the poor could lead to eleven point

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Speaker 4: eight million people losing healthcare coverage, including many in his

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Speaker 4: own state of miss Zouri, where he's goes up for reelection,

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Speaker 4: But then, under pressure, Hawley now says he will sign

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Speaker 4: on to the Trump bill anyway, while denouncing the healthcare

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Speaker 4: cuts as quote unquote bad. What a hero, Mike, what

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Speaker 4: a courageous standard take do nothing, while saying that what

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Speaker 4: you're voting for is bad. Elon musk Ben waded back

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Speaker 4: into politics. Haven't heard from him from it, attacking the

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Speaker 4: Trump bill quote as utterly insane and destructive end quote.

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Speaker 4: But no one much bothers about Elon Now he's left

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Speaker 4: Mara Lago. On the Democratic side, Senator Chris Murphy.

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Speaker 15: Says CBO, which is the Congressional Budget Office, nonpartisan, says

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Speaker 15: it's going to kick between ten and fifteen million people

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Speaker 15: off their healthcare and for what to be able to afford.

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Speaker 15: A new two hundred and seventy thousand dollars tax cut

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Speaker 15: for the richest families in the country, new tax cuts

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Speaker 15: for corporations, new tax cuts for billionaires.

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Speaker 1: This bill sticks.

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Speaker 4: Paul show about two thirds of the country agree with

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Speaker 4: that assessment. Well, Senator John Thun, who is hitting the

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Speaker 4: Trump effort in the Republican side of the Senate.

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Speaker 3: Says it's time to get the legislation across the finish line.

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Speaker 4: The Trump plan is estimated to add nearly three point

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Speaker 4: three trillion to the dad of folks are wondering. That's

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Speaker 4: five point four to five trillion dollars New Zealand to

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Speaker 4: the federal That currently fifty nine point two trillion New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: If anyone still cares, you know.

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Speaker 2: And Scotis came to the party. Yeah, what is happening

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Speaker 2: with judges here?

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Speaker 4: Federal judges are calling for a Justice Department investigating phony

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Speaker 4: pizza delivery, So let me start with that. What's happening

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Speaker 4: is that many judges now being sent pizzas they never

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Speaker 4: ordered to their homes. This sounds weird, right, Sometimes in

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Speaker 4: the name of Judge Esther Sellas or her murdered son Daniel. Now,

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Speaker 4: her son was murdered by a lawyer dressed as a

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Speaker 4: pizza delivery man. Then he killed himself as well. But

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Speaker 4: Judge Sellers says, others now are using this as a

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Speaker 4: threat to judges.

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Speaker 16: We know the significance and the threat of a pizza

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Speaker 16: arriving at a judge's house, But.

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Speaker 17: In order to pizza, what's the point.

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Speaker 16: The point is someone wants that judge. Someone wants those

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Speaker 16: judges to know I know where you live.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is just discussing meantime, back to scotis the

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Speaker 4: top judge on the US Supreme Court, John Roberts now

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Speaker 4: calling on police to tone down their rhetoric. But on

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Speaker 4: his own court, there is a furious split right now

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Speaker 4: over Trump's move to give the States a wider roll

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Speaker 4: over whether everyone born he instantly becomes an American citizen.

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Speaker 4: Trump opposes that, even though he himself became an American

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Speaker 4: citizen because of the Constitution's fourteenth Amendment when his mother

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Speaker 4: was a Scottish immigrant and his dad was German. Also,

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Speaker 4: Trump's ex Savanna, became a U. S citizen in nineteen

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Speaker 4: eighty eight. Don Junior was born in nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 4: Vanka nineteen eighty one, Eric nineteen eighty four of Dla gyp. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: the dissenting lives on the court call their colleagues ruling

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Speaker 4: now a quote solemn mockery of the US Constitution. Well,

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Speaker 4: one of those dissenting justices calls a quote existential threat

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Speaker 4: to the laws. So not a great happy family on

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Speaker 4: this country's Sonesday.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Just also the using crypto the

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Speaker 2: Federal Housing Agency. If you go get a mortgage, you

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Speaker 2: can now use or will be able to use crypto

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Speaker 2: as currency to purchase your house. And that's the first

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Speaker 2: meantime newsome Gavin California is suing Fox for seven hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty seven million dollars. Why because that's the same

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Speaker 2: amount that Fox got sued for and the business of

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Speaker 2: the dominion voting systems anyway, he claims they defend and

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Speaker 2: they say it's a publicity stance. So we'll see where

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Speaker 2: that goes. Ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Octurn News Tom Sedb.

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Speaker 2: So here's what we found out about So Tama Po

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Speaker 2: Tucker is on the program Friday says that fun of

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Speaker 2: Aura is for everybody. So we go looking over the

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Speaker 2: weekend as funer Aura for everybody. Turns out no, it's

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Speaker 2: for Maria Pacific Island. It's a race based organization. This

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Speaker 2: goes to the more unapacific thing goes to the political

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Speaker 2: advertising thing, all of which we'll raise with the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 18: I've been working on my grant request or wrong.

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Speaker 2: Again, forget it fire look. And then we come to

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Speaker 2: the business of Ikea. You know Ikea. We banged on

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Speaker 2: about them endlessly, flatpac furniture and meat balls. Under cultural monitoring,

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Speaker 2: this is what you have to do with you're Ikea,

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Speaker 2: and you get your permission. You must undertake a cultural monitoring.

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Speaker 2: You must under take Kurakia and other such cultural ceremonies.

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Speaker 2: This is part of the license we gave these people

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Speaker 2: to build a shop. And you must do this a

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Speaker 2: prestart meeting. You must do it at commencement of earthworks,

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Speaker 2: and you must do it immediately prior to completion of

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Speaker 2: bulk earthworks. So you've got to do it over and

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Speaker 2: over again. You need to afford the opportunity to provide

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Speaker 2: cultural monitoring. Manofenawa need afforded access to the site at

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Speaker 2: their discretion. Mari can simply wander onto the site whenever

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Speaker 2: they want. How is this possible? You must provide a

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Speaker 2: minimum of ten working days notice to representatives of Manofenaa

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Speaker 2: of the anticipated dates of the above milestones as part

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Speaker 2: of Condition five E following aspects of the design. They

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Speaker 2: must be consulted on erosion and sediment control, stormwater treatment

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Speaker 2: and planting, riparian planting, any opportunities for ecological enhancement and

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Speaker 2: culvert edge walkway design. Very important to talk about the

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Speaker 2: walkway design. The consent holder i e. IKEA must provide

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Speaker 2: evidence of this consultation. Is this race base or is

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Speaker 2: this race base? And as the government that said they

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Speaker 2: were getting rid of this race based nonsense, yes it

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Speaker 2: is so the Prime Minister's and for a good time

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Speaker 2: after seven thirty five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: For the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now stilancis stillans is what do they make? They make cars?

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Speaker 2: Obviously Chrysler, Alpha, Maserati, Citron, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Lancier, all

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Speaker 2: those sort of Anyway, the Ram as well, the RAM

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Speaker 2: truck used to be a smash at the RAM fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen percent share of the pickup truck market

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Speaker 2: in American outs down to eight point four what's happened here? Well,

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Speaker 2: that was back in twenty nineteen. Today sales are down

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Speaker 2: thirty eight percent. They're being smashed by everyone else. Their

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Speaker 2: full sized truck sales have dropped forty one percent. Some

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Speaker 2: analysts point to their call to go fully electric by

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty. They wanted to have one hundred percent of

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Speaker 2: sales in europevs And fifty percent in the US. So

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Speaker 2: they've since backtracked on that and they've sloped down their

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Speaker 2: transition like everybody else have. So they've announced a plan

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Speaker 2: to reappeal to the American market, and that concludes getting

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Speaker 2: back into supporting NASCAR, because nothing says America like NASCAR.

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Speaker 2: Also having mechanical bull rides at events. I mean, nothing

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Speaker 2: makes you want to buy a ram more than seeing

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Speaker 2: a mechanical bull somewhere and go, my god, once I've

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Speaker 2: ridden that puppy, I'm going to buy me a ram.

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Speaker 2: They're bringing back most importantly, and this is the actual

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Speaker 2: thing that the HEMI V eight. They got rid of

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Speaker 2: the V eight, and I think they put a B

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Speaker 2: six in or something ridiculous and they pretended that was

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Speaker 2: a proper engine. So the vh's back. They're also doing

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Speaker 2: a big warranty. I read the warranty the other day.

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Speaker 2: It's a massive warranties, a teen year warranty or something

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Speaker 2: like that. Anyway, the CEO, who was in retirement, he said,

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Speaker 2: bugger this, I'm out, I'm back out of retirement. I

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Speaker 2: want I want to fight. That's what he said. He's

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Speaker 2: probably been on a mechanical bull, probably been on this

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Speaker 2: mechanical bull and go I want to come out of

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Speaker 2: retirement and fight the electric version of the RAM. It

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be out by ind of last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you've ever see them. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it will ever happened.

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Speaker 17: Is my pick.

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Speaker 2: Sonny Kochel, and he's got some ideas around retail crime,

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Speaker 2: some announcements coming this week from the government around retail

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Speaker 2: crime and against first respect on this. So we'll have

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Speaker 2: the detail on that directly after the News which is

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Speaker 2: next Reduced Togs.

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Speaker 1: Vine, the Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way, News.

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Speaker 2: Dogs Head be following seven past seven, So crime looks

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Speaker 2: to be a focus this week. We'll get to the

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Speaker 2: first responders in the moment, but first the government will

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Speaker 2: be announcing changes the laws around shoplifting and theft comes

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Speaker 2: off the back of recommendations from the Retail Crime and

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Speaker 2: Asterial Advisory Group. The chair of that group, of course,

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Speaker 2: is Sunny Koschel, who's back with the Sunny Morning.

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Speaker 6: Very good morning to you, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's coming.

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Speaker 6: Well, Mike, we have already delivered three final reports to

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Speaker 6: the government and the first one was on citizens arrests,

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Speaker 6: which to be announced in March. And I would love

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Speaker 6: to tell you more about the other two reports, but

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Speaker 6: those are confidential until the government deseasions are announced. But

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Speaker 6: I'm really excited about what we will be announcing tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: For too long and the criminals have left felt they're untouchable,

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Speaker 6: and that's going to change.

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Speaker 2: And also my government moving in the right direction as

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Speaker 2: far as you're concerned, it is, Mike.

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Speaker 6: The retail crime is costing New Zealand over two point

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Speaker 6: eight billion dollars, which is over fifty million dollars per week,

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Speaker 6: which is over seven million million dollars per day. This

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Speaker 6: retail crime, Jenny, we need to put back into the

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Speaker 6: bottle and we need to create a zero tolerance response.

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Speaker 2: I think last since last time we talked, we've had

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Speaker 2: that business of the police not responding or claimed not

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Speaker 2: to respond to anything under five hundred dollars. Is that

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Speaker 2: being sorted out or has been sorted out to your satisfaction.

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Speaker 6: It was sorted out very quickly thanks to the leadership

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Speaker 6: of the Police Minister and also the Police Commissioner, and

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Speaker 6: that was turned around very quickly. And also on the reports, Michael.

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Speaker 6: Over the rest of the year, we will look to

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Speaker 6: finalize another four for the reports, and this includes a

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Speaker 6: report on facial recognition technology and a great power for

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Speaker 6: security guards, which the Minister has talked about publicly. So

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Speaker 6: I'm really excited what we're going to announced tomorrow and

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you and the listeners will be two. You know,

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Speaker 6: these are the changes retailers across the country has been

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Speaker 6: screaming out for good.

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Speaker 2: There will be more powerful retailers coming in some way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form, either tomorrow before the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: because that's what you've wanted, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: Look I mean, at the end of the day, you know, retailers,

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Speaker 6: they have been frusted for so long.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 6: The biggest challenge we face is a perception why criminals

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Speaker 6: that they're untouchable, that there are no consequences for their actions,

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Speaker 6: that police won't respond and that even if they do

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Speaker 6: that the courts will let them go. So this sense

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Speaker 6: of impunity harms us. All this need to stop and

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Speaker 6: that's the work that we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Good stop, NOAs to catch up. We'll look forward tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Sunny Koschiel, who's the chair of that Retail Crimeate Ministerial

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Speaker 2: Advisory Group nine. And it's past seven ask. So the

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Speaker 2: other bit of work that we're getting some movement on

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Speaker 2: is this crackdown on assaults on first responders. The existing

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Speaker 2: provision for assault police will be extended to cover the

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Speaker 2: paramedics that's the AMBO is the fire of firefighters and

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Speaker 2: the prison officers. Maximum penalty for assault with intent to

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Speaker 2: injure will increase through five years. Injuring with intent will

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Speaker 2: increase to seven years. The general Manager of Ambulance Operations

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Speaker 2: for St John as Duke Coburn, who was with a

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Speaker 2: stud good morning, Good morning Mike. We're heading in the

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Speaker 2: right direction here.

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Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, we're supporting any initiative that's going to hold

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Speaker 9: offenders to account for assaults or violence towards ambulance officers

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Speaker 9: and other first responders.

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Speaker 2: How many attacks are they.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's a daily occurrence, often a number of times

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Speaker 9: a day across New Zealand towards our staff.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and based on why are these drugged up, drunk

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Speaker 2: people or just nutjobs?

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Speaker 9: A majority of them are drugging alcohol related, but often

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Speaker 9: just people who for whatever reason one of verbally abuse

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Speaker 9: will full of physically abuse our.

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Speaker 2: People based on what is their problem with somebody who's

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Speaker 2: trying to help?

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Speaker 9: A great question, Mike, and I really want I don't

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Speaker 9: have a great answer to. Our people come to work

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Speaker 9: every day to do the best they can for people

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Speaker 9: when they're sick and injured, and it's just unfathomable to

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Speaker 9: me that people will verbally abuse or physically abuse our people.

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Speaker 2: And presumably that you'd want the courts to back up

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Speaker 2: these new sentences. But having said that, do they do

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Speaker 2: you think offer a deterrent or not?

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Speaker 19: I hope So.

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Speaker 9: We don't know the detail of the bill at the moment,

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Speaker 9: but absolutely we want people to be held account if

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Speaker 9: they are arrested and go through the court process. But

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Speaker 9: ultimately I hope that this actually deters people from even

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Speaker 9: doing any of this to our people and our fellow

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Speaker 9: colleagues and the other First responder services.

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Speaker 2: Do you appreciate it? Stu Carburn, who's the general manager

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Speaker 2: of Ambulance eleven, pasts really new legislation with harsher penalties

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Speaker 2: for violence to first responders. I don't care what the

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Speaker 2: maximum penalty is, what's the minimum because we all know

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Speaker 2: that's what the judges handouts. Not a bad point, Mike.

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Speaker 2: The IKEA building requirements to involve all things, Maray not

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Speaker 2: just racist for straight out corruption. Well that's not true

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Speaker 2: because if something's mandated or gazetted, it's not corruption because

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Speaker 2: it's expected of you. If Luxon defends this, then you

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Speaker 2: can watch him fail. The other one you're interested in

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Speaker 2: this morning is that one two seven. The education thing

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Speaker 2: this morning that we dealt with last week with Erica Stamford.

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Speaker 2: We may or may not get there, but it does

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Speaker 2: dovetail in to the Napooi thing with Paul Goldsmith. It

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Speaker 2: seems like the Prime Minister was out of the country

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Speaker 2: last week and everything went pair shaped because the Narpooi

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Speaker 2: thing was Goldsmith, if you were listening on Friday, came

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Speaker 2: onto the program and he reckons that having spent twenty

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Speaker 2: million already on lunch and air travel, he reckons he

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Speaker 2: can have Napoo wrapped up in the next two or

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Speaker 2: three years, as though that's a thing, as though we

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Speaker 2: should all go off. He'el I thought it was going

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Speaker 2: to go on for a long time anyway. Chris Luxon

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Speaker 2: shortly thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: At b two weeks ago, Michael witness to ambos being salted.

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Speaker 2: The women kept kicking, punching and pushing two ambo females.

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Speaker 2: The man called the police. It was dreadful to witness.

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Speaker 2: There's something deeply wrong with a small selection of New Zealanders.

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Speaker 2: And there's sixteen past seven now tomorrow, well one tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It's the start of July. If you can believe that,

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Speaker 2: it's also d day for rental properties to make these

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Speaker 2: healthy home standards. Now, these are the rules of the

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Speaker 2: previous government introduced back in twenty nineteen. Heating, insulation, moisted, drainage, ventilation,

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So we've got five hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty thousand ish rental homes in this country. How many

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Speaker 2: have made it better group our does inspections of rental

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Speaker 2: properties than the CEO is Matt Mason who was with us. Matt,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good morning Mice.

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Speaker 2: So it's not like we haven't had time. Do you

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Speaker 2: think most people have, you know, pulled their finger out

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Speaker 2: and got it done.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Look, I do do think that a lot of landlords,

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Speaker 20: productive landlords obviously have had a long time to undertake

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Speaker 20: these properties and give them up to stand it. And

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Speaker 20: I do think those being proactive have Obviously there has

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Speaker 20: been a large amount of landlords that have left it

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Speaker 20: till the last minute and are scrambling now to get

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Speaker 20: them done.

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Speaker 2: What is the I mean, who's following up and what

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Speaker 2: are the penalties? Is there going to be a sort

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Speaker 2: of a regime of clampdown or no.

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Speaker 20: Look, we haven't directly been involved in any audits, but

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Speaker 20: we do understand that NBR are undertaking a number of

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Speaker 20: audits and you know, we'll be issuing fines for non compliance.

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Speaker 2: Are you under some sort of instruction if you go

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Speaker 2: into a home and it's not compliant, do you have

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Speaker 2: to tell someone?

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Speaker 20: Look, obviously we're working for the client that engaged us,

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Speaker 20: and so there's no register or anything like that that

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Speaker 20: we're obligated to supply that data to other than the

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Speaker 20: client that's engaged us.

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Speaker 2: In general, has it been arduous or did it very

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Speaker 2: widely depending on what the home was.

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Speaker 20: Look, obviously there's a range of quality of rental properties.

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Speaker 20: Those that have been managed by property managers have typically

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Speaker 20: been a little bit higher quality and been well managed,

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Speaker 20: and so that's affected things. But look, largely, you know,

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Speaker 20: it's been the property that the type of property and

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Speaker 20: the quality of property out there hasn't been too bad.

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Speaker 20: And the regulations in pretty simple, it's not hugely are

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Speaker 20: just no.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly, And I would imagine that the change in

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Speaker 2: the rental market in the last couple of years has

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Speaker 2: encouraged it, given that, you know, you've got to work

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Speaker 2: pretty hard as a landlord these days to get people

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Speaker 2: into the house, so you'd want to make it spick

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Speaker 2: and span.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely, I think that's definitely helped. Obviously, poor landlords

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Speaker 20: have had a bit of a tough time with interest

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Speaker 20: rates and things like that financially, which hasn't helped. But yeah,

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Speaker 20: I think the genuine intent out there from landlords is

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Speaker 20: to get a better get a better property for their tenants.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, all right, mattp preciated very much. Matt Mason, who's

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Speaker 2: with better grad. Earlier on we were talking to the

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Speaker 2: Velocity people and Helen who was telling us about the

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Speaker 2: price average of houses around the country. And I reference

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Speaker 2: the banks at the moment who seem to be under

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Speaker 2: the gun in terms of applications. Fifteen percent more houses

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Speaker 2: selling than this time last year, which means there's business

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Speaker 2: at the banks, and so it's a bit slow. Asb

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Speaker 2: I know, it's been adding to their team. They've got

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Speaker 2: a self declared turn around time of six working days,

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Speaker 2: somewhere between six and ten. The average turn around time

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Speaker 2: for homelanes via mortgage advisors was five business days or

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Speaker 2: eight if you were new to the banks. So obviously

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Speaker 2: there are people out there making applications and the money

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Speaker 2: you're starting to flow, and presumably the housing market is

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Speaker 2: going to pick up between now and the end of

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Speaker 2: the year. Survived till twenty five. Remember that one actually speaking,

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Speaker 2: which is a very good piece, and I'll come back

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Speaker 2: to it. Nick Stewart wrote in the Herald over the

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Speaker 2: weekend economic pergom and all the things that are wrong

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Speaker 2: with this country and the two step economy. But I'll

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Speaker 2: work you through the fine detail. Nineteen past.

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Speaker 2: The RB's recession may have been engineered, but the recovery

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Speaker 2: to work to raise that money to pay those bills.

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Speaker 2: This is more than super I'm talking about. It's health,

867
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: it's pretty much everything. Currently sixteen percent of the population

868
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: is over sixty five. By twenty sixty that's going to

869
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: be a quarter. So it's going from sixteen percent to

870
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: twenty five percent. Now, the other Ird's conclusion people will

871
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: likely have to pay more tax really is that it?

872
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 17: Well?

873
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: No, Actually, somewhere in the advice they mutter something like,

874
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: we could always cut costs while bingo there, bingo, bingo, bingo,

875
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: give the people a prize. Yes we could. And why

876
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: that idea is not top of the pile of ideas

877
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. Because here's what I do know. Most

878
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: of the money to pay for all of this comes

879
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: from you and me. Personal tax is over fifty percent

880
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: of government income. In fact, it's fifty two percent. Companies

881
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: pay seventeen percent, GSTS twenty five percent, a lot of

882
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: GSTS from US as well. So in fact, look at

883
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: our top tax rate thirty nine cents. Add GST on

884
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: top of that, you're at fifty four percent. Fifty four

885
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: cents in every dollar. Add the bits and pieces on

886
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: top you know, acc road user charges. All that top

887
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: income earners will be parting with fifty six or fifty

888
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: seven percent of everything they earn. And the Ird advice

889
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: is we're going to need more of that? Please? So

890
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: how much more? And at what point does it become ruinous?

891
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: At what point do the young bright things move off?

892
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 17: Sure?

893
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: I mean those are the ones that haven't already gone,

894
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: of course, So let's take stock here for a moment

895
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: and see where we're at. We're highly taxed. Remember at

896
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: the other end, we don't have any tax free component

897
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: in our income tax system. We are a low wage economy.

898
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: We have a massive savings issue with kiwisaver at an

899
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: average of thirty ish one thousand dollars in savings, that's

900
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: all we've got, and a fiscal cliff in a bunch

901
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: of years where the main idea is will bleed you

902
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: for even more tax spot the red flag. So what

903
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: to do I mean and how urgently ideas please Cosking.

904
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, our stock market, Greg was telling us

905
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: earlier on about the S and P reaching record levels.

906
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: At the halfway mark, the New Zealand share market is

907
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: performed as about as badly as anyone new we are

908
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: in the world this year. First half of the year

909
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: it's full and five percent. So if you had one

910
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: hundred dollars at the start of the year and you

911
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: back the whole market you be down five percent. It's

912
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: pretty disappointing, but it's not the end of the world.

913
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: That's Mike Lister, who's Craig's investment partner's investment director. It's

914
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: pretty disappointing, but it's not the end of the world,

915
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Speaker 2: isn't it. New Zealand continues to be a disappointment relative

916
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: to other markets, no kidding. And you could say the

917
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: same for house prices as well. That's probably a reflection

918
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Speaker 2: of the economy. We've been sitting back waiting for the

919
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: recovery to take hold, and interest rates have come down.

920
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: We're out of recession, but we're still far from firing

921
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: on all cylinders. We've got an economy that's sort of

922
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: spluttering along and some sectors are really feeling the brunt

923
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: of that. There are some company specific issues, he argues,

924
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: but for buy and large, if you look at what's

925
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Speaker 2: happening around the rest of the world and you have

926
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Speaker 2: the look of what's happening here, we to quote next

927
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Speaker 2: Stuart are an economic purgatory once again. I say I'll

928
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Speaker 2: come back to Nick after the after Chris Luxeon. So

929
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Speaker 2: as far as Luxon's concerned, where do you want to start?

930
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 2: Do you want to start on the our farur Aura

931
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: investigation over the weekend in which Tama potark are very

932
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: clearly stated on the program past Friday that it's an

933
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Speaker 2: agency for all. As far as I can work out,

934
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Speaker 2: it's not an agency for all at all, unless you

935
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Speaker 2: happen to be Maria Pacific Island. Do you want to

936
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Speaker 2: go to one two seven on the education business that

937
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: we talked to Nicholas Stanford about last week? Do you

938
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Speaker 2: want to do the farner or a business with the

939
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Speaker 2: mari roll? Do you want to do the funer or

940
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: a business with Moana Pacifica or the rugby team. We're

941
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Speaker 2: about ten to wait at this particular point in time.

942
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Speaker 18: I mean, when you say it like that, it does

943
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Speaker 18: sound like they've been giving out a lot of money

944
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Speaker 18: to a lot of people.

945
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Speaker 2: Yeah, then then we'll get to NAPUOI speaking of a

946
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Speaker 2: lot of may twenty million in counting, and that's two

947
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Speaker 2: or three years away. Apparently you want well do you?

948
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I barely touched the science of this.

949
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: So you can see the Prime Minister's got a fair

950
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: bit on his plate and he is with us after

951
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Speaker 2: the News, which is next.

952
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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

953
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor, the most

954
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Speaker 1: powerful defender ever made and used togs dead b.

955
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Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from eight. The Primis is back

956
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: in the country. And as you heard earlier, on a

957
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: week of some sort of crime announcements or at least

958
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: law and order announcements, we'll hopefully get through some of

959
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: those anyway. Christoph Luxe is weill. U's good to see it,

960
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: to be with you, Mike, and for people watching this online.

961
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: And you brought me the map trying to button me up.

962
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 12: I'll try to tell you the perhoy to walk Worth

963
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 12: Walkworth Road, which I call the Mike cost Memorial Highway

964
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Speaker 12: is now tomorrow is going to be operating at one

965
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Speaker 12: hundred and ten case.

966
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: The whole thing my case. Now I'm off your case.

967
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Speaker 2: You can be doing your best in a Liam Lawson.

968
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Speaker 12: There's your shoes up there with your hair flowing in

969
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 12: the wind.

970
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: And in the entire New free Way one hundred and

971
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: ten kil a moment.

972
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 10: It's really good.

973
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: So soon, did you bring Amanda some duty free.

974
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 12: I didn't, mate, I should have. In hindsight, I thought

975
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 12: I should have brought us some Dubai chocolate when I

976
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 12: went through Dubai for the changeover. But I said that

977
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 12: to her when I arrived and she said that would

978
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Speaker 12: have been nice, and but I didn't, so, well, yeah.

979
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: That would have been nice. That would have been I

980
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: did it fair enough now after.

981
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 12: I said every day is romanic Valentie's Odlux house.

982
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Laura. In order the stuff that we've talked about

983
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: on the show this morning, it is coming this week

984
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: in the form that we've been talking about. In other words,

985
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: you're up it on the first responders, and Sonny Koscher

986
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: is going to get some action on his recommendations from

987
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: this board.

988
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 12: Yeap hope, So yes, yes, absolutely. I mean their first

989
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 12: thing is tomorrow our new send that sing laws come

990
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 12: into place. That's where we've capped the discounts that judges

991
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 12: can give you might remember, to forty percent. You can't

992
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 12: have multiple remorses, you can't do.

993
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 10: All that stuff.

994
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 12: So that's been really good because that's been part of

995
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 12: the problem. And the second thing is today obviously we've

996
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 12: got this challenge on first responders. It's quite frightening. If

997
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 12: you're a paramedic or a fire officer, firefighter, or a

998
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 12: police officer, a prison officer. The assaults on these guys

999
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 12: has been profound, Like there's been nine hundred assaults. I

1000
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 12: think last year on the prison officers, eleven hundred on

1001
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 12: police officers, and these are key weis that go in

1002
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 12: to try and help us into these difficult circumstances. They

1003
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 12: don't deserve to get bashed or assaulted, so they're not

1004
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 12: saying enough is enough on that.

1005
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: One you concern this morning from the text is that

1006
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: it's all very well to say maximum sentence is what

1007
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: about the minimum and what are the judges don't back.

1008
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 12: You, Well they need to, we'll look at it again

1009
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 12: if they don't. But I mean the pointer is I

1010
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 12: think anyone listening to that would just say that's not

1011
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 12: right that they know. I've had people say to me, oh, well,

1012
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 12: what's the evidence for putting a tougher sentence on them? Well,

1013
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 12: I don't really care. I mean I want I want

1014
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 12: the firefighters and the paramedics safe. If you're working at

1015
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 12: Saint John's, you go to help someone you don't deserve

1016
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 12: to get beat.

1017
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Speaker 17: Ups, do not?

1018
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: Are you also announcing something on special development with Tower

1019
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: wrong of this week? You have a deadline for July

1020
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: one to announce something with somebody who put applications into you.

1021
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: Yes on sorry, just in terms of special development in

1022
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Speaker 2: terms of central government aligning with local government around.

1023
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 12: The city regional dial Yes. Yes, yes, we've got that

1024
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 12: work underway. More to say about that very shortly. Yeah, okay,

1025
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 12: is it tower on them? I'm not going to say

1026
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 12: because there you go, you smile, you gave it.

1027
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Speaker 17: What So it is.

1028
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 12: People listening. It's not easy coming on this show.

1029
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 10: No, no, it isn't.

1030
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Speaker 2: So it's tower on. So now here's where it's going

1031
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: to get ugly for you, this business of Ikea and

1032
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: the moorification of Ikea. And I'm assuming everyone else who

1033
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: wants to build something in this country explain it to me.

1034
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 12: Well, it's insane. So, I mean, first and foremost, getting

1035
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 12: anything built in this country is very torturous. It's quite

1036
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 12: a big process. As you know. You saw the issues

1037
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 12: that have been raised where you've got lots of challenges

1038
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Speaker 12: around getting stuff built. I actually met with the Ikea

1039
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Speaker 12: owners when I was in the Netherlands. Actually it's run

1040
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Speaker 12: out of the Netherlands, and they actually spoke quite positively

1041
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 12: about the resource planning process. I said, I disagree. I said,

1042
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Speaker 12: I think it's terrible. So we're changing our fast tracked

1043
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 12: laws and we've also got the RMA Act being reformed

1044
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Speaker 12: with new legislation in place.

1045
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: So this is Labour's law, not yours. And once your

1046
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: law comes in this stuff we have to stop all this.

1047
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 12: Dumb stuff that's going on that's making it very difficult

1048
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 12: in adding huge amounts of cost to get it.

1049
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: So when does that law?

1050
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 10: Everybody?

1051
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 2: When does this stuff stop?

1052
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1053
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 12: So basically Bishop will have a draft in place by

1054
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Speaker 12: July August and then we'll bring a first reading into

1055
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Speaker 12: the House to make it law by the end of

1056
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Speaker 12: this year.

1057
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Speaker 2: So any new contract sign will no longer have these

1058
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Speaker 2: sort of clauses.

1059
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Speaker 12: Well, we want all this stuff stripped out right. This

1060
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 12: is all dumb stuff that's adding huge amounts of cost.

1061
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 12: There's a bunch of things around you and I talked

1062
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Speaker 12: about the role of regional councils for example going forward,

1063
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Speaker 12: as well as well as consultation with EWI. We've got

1064
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Speaker 12: a situation, for example in told on a port where

1065
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Speaker 12: there's been a dispute going on between EWE District Council

1066
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Speaker 12: and the port company now for really seven years to

1067
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Speaker 12: build two simple berths. You've probably got six or seven

1068
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Speaker 12: ships sitting out there right now. But I'm sorry for

1069
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 12: ports we need to be able to crash through all

1070
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Speaker 12: that stuff and get stuff done and built.

1071
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Speaker 2: Are you going to be able to go to the

1072
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Speaker 2: election next year with these laws in place and all

1073
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Speaker 2: of this tidy up, because your reputation's being hurt by

1074
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: this ongoing whether it's the previous government or not you're

1075
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: in charge, by this ongoing idea that you haven't quite

1076
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: clamped down on what you need to.

1077
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Speaker 12: There's three things we're trying to do. First of all,

1078
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Speaker 12: we kill the madness of RMA two point zero under Parker.

1079
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Speaker 12: We then put the fast trap provisions in place that's

1080
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Speaker 12: working really well. It's actually got new people putting projects

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Speaker 12: in there, which is good. And Chris Bishop's coming together

1082
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Speaker 12: forward in the middle of the year with a new

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Speaker 12: proposal for the RMA that simplifies it tremendously prioritizes economic growth,

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Speaker 12: and you'll take that bill into the House at the

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Speaker 12: beginning at the end of this year. So we should

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Speaker 12: be having that process up and running with the.

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Speaker 2: Focuating completely while you're also away. Funer or are two

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Speaker 2: things out of them? One Rokal who runs it, says,

1089
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Speaker 2: Maori issues don't come to the foe with mainstream parties.

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Speaker 2: Therefore she needed to spend some money on hiring Tom

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Speaker 2: Eat to spend thirty minutes telling us why you should

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Speaker 2: enroll in them low role.

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Speaker 12: Those allegations are incredibly concerning. If public money has been

1094
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Speaker 12: used in that way, that is utterly unacceptable.

1095
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Speaker 2: Well we know it has.

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Speaker 17: Well.

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Speaker 12: The second thing I just say to you, though, is

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Speaker 12: both those organizations use public and private money, and so

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Speaker 12: the reason for the investigation, which will be done in July,

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Speaker 12: is to make sure that we need to staying with

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Speaker 12: the public money has been used for those campaigns.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she's claiming private money. I mean the

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Speaker 2: more one specificar people are claiming private.

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Speaker 12: I just want to make we need to make sure

1105
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Speaker 12: because it's a pretty serious allegation. It's got some pretty

1106
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 12: big consequences. It's a good reason for why Tama Potarka

1107
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 12: has actually tried to sharpen up funner or a big time.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we've had three commissioning agencies for in New

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Speaker 12: Zealand for the last decade or so.

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Speaker 2: He's got of them all.

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Speaker 12: He's put four brand new ones and that take effect

1112
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 12: as of tomorrow. He's also then got new contracting in

1113
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 12: place to make sure that we actually do have conflicts

1114
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Speaker 12: well managed, we have outcomes, really well articulated, good data

1115
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Speaker 12: that drives into outcomes, and a bunch of common sense

1116
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 12: stuff that you would expect.

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00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: Right, So, on the surface, the ability of funer Or

1118
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: to give money to people to make an ad to

1119
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Speaker 2: encourage people onto the MARII role, which is electioneering, that.

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Speaker 12: Would be utterly unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what will happen if that's the case.

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Speaker 12: Well, again, both these organizations are no longer involved in

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00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 12: fun Aura, but we would need to look at prosecutions

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Speaker 12: and other things that we remedy.

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Speaker 2: The same applies to more on a pacificate, because they're

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Speaker 2: the one. As far as I can work out, the

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Speaker 2: arguing there was some public money at the start, but

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Speaker 2: then they argue it's been mainly private money since then,

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Speaker 2: and you can't.

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Speaker 12: Well, I want to be really definitive that you need

1131
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 12: to know one hundred percent for sure, given the seriousness

1132
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Speaker 12: of those allegations, whether the public money has been used

1133
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Speaker 12: or not, and what recourse if it has been.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Also, while you're away one two seven the Education Act.

1135
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Speaker 2: Erica Stamford was on the program about this entrenching to terrrity, etc.

1136
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Speaker 2: Into the education business in this country. She says Goldsmith's

1137
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Speaker 2: reviewing it. I was told that Goldsmith's reviewing it because

1138
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Speaker 2: that's a compromise. It should have been gotten rid of.

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Speaker 2: You didn't, so you're reviewing it with a view to what.

1140
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Speaker 12: Well, there's a couple of things here. The first and

1141
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 12: foremost thing is we have to make academic achievement the

1142
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 12: priority for these school boards, which is what she's done.

1143
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 12: You know, attendance is abysmal, maths and reading. We've got

1144
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 12: big jobs to do there. We want that to be

1145
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 12: unambiguously the number one priority of many school board. The

1146
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 12: second thing, as you're right, there's a huge amount of

1147
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 12: treaty obligations and the application of that across a bunch

1148
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 12: of education regulation. It's not just in this particular bill.

1149
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 12: We want to deal with that in quite a coherent

1150
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 12: kind of way because it then and Goldsmith's doing a

1151
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 12: bunch of work on the broader treaty clauses and obligations

1152
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 12: that are existing in all legislation, and we're working our

1153
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 12: ways when we see that, well, he's already started that process,

1154
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 12: and there are somebody see it to fix and there

1155
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 12: are some that are if he's as fast on this

1156
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 12: is he is with Napui, You and I are going

1157
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 12: to be you and I are going to be dead.

1158
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: Well I just say.

1159
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 12: But the other thing is this will go through a

1160
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 12: full select committee process as well, so you know there's

1161
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 12: an opportunity.

1162
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Speaker 2: So that's well into next year presumable. Well, no, this.

1163
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 12: Particular education bill, people can feed into.

1164
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Speaker 17: That their view.

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00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: That's a select committee right now.

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 17: Yes.

1167
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: Can that be done separately to the broad based stuff

1168
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: that you're talking about with Goldsmith or is it all

1169
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: going to be done separately individually altogether?

1170
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Speaker 12: Well, I mean we'll listen to the select committee feedback

1171
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 12: of there's strong views. We've obviously got to make the

1172
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 12: bill better. If there's things that we can do, there

1173
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 12: will be other things that people might think we should

1174
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 12: have boards focused on as well. My major focus on

1175
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 12: this was to make sure they understood academic achievements freaking important,

1176
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 12: because that was rather oddly not even a concern and

1177
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 12: no wonder fifty percent of our kids a arrive at

1178
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 12: high school not where they need to be on reading,

1179
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 12: on the on the treaty piece on the education, there's

1180
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 12: a whole bunch of education regulations. There's a massive big

1181
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 12: set of education acts that actually have this you know,

1182
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 12: the application of those treaty obligations through all of that.

1183
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 12: But also it's an other legislation as well, probably up

1184
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 12: to forty other bits of Okay.

1185
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: So also while you're away, Goldsmith's on the program and

1186
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: he says Narpooi might be sorted in the next two

1187
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: or three years, already having spent twenty million dollars on

1188
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: airfares and lunches. Yes, so as Jones got the answer

1189
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: with a bill that forces them into a singular deal, Well,

1190
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: I will take it or leave it.

1191
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, I mean I think we're getting to a

1192
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 12: point where were the carry on and just leave you know,

1193
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 12: the Narpooi settlement and on the back burner as it

1194
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 12: has been over the last government. And we will either

1195
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 12: we find a way through and we're going to give

1196
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 12: it one more go. We're going to give it a go,

1197
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 12: and we've got new negotiators in place, and we're very happy.

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Speaker 2: When you stick a deadline on it, like Bolt you

1199
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Speaker 2: talked about all those years we either pony app or

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Speaker 2: you know.

1201
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, I mean, I mean I've been off the view.

1202
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 12: We've got through Probably there's one hundred and fifty settlements roughly,

1203
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 12: I think from memory there's over one hundred of them

1204
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 12: have been done already. We're now down to some more

1205
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 12: difficult ones that have some definitional issues about on the

1206
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 12: hierarchy planes. There's obviously the Napooi and the North are

1207
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 12: the two big ones. We've got to work our way

1208
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 12: through those and try and get those resolved. I want

1209
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 12: to get if we get another third of those out

1210
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 12: the door, that would be fantastic. Why do we want

1211
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 12: them out the door, because actually it's amazing. You just

1212
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 12: watch Waikato Tyn do a deal with Brooks billion dollars

1213
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 12: on internal people don't want to do a deal thing

1214
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 12: about NAPO up north. It's the biggest tragedy in my view,

1215
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 12: which is that their failure to actually secure a settlement

1216
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 12: means that they're not able to their community.

1217
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: But failure, I mean, how much more money do you

1218
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: want to spend?

1219
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 12: It takes two to tango, but we're going to give

1220
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 12: it one more go and.

1221
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: Thirty seconds or least. Can you explain to me what

1222
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: final or is is it a race posed organization or not?

1223
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 12: No, I know it's not. It's designed to help all

1224
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 12: news Islanders.

1225
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: How can you can you know me a single goal

1226
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: they've given anyone who's not Mario Pacific one.

1227
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 12: I can I mean, if I think about the work

1228
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 12: that they do, a different community organizations will be commissioned

1229
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 12: to do work on attendance services. There's been some outstanding

1230
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 12: work done on childhood immunizations and immunizations with the general population,

1231
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 12: led by Maori organizations. So we just believe fundamentally that

1232
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 12: actually community organizations that actually have high trust with communities,

1233
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 12: that can actually get tasks done that we can't, you know,

1234
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 12: social services, tasks and protection.

1235
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Speaker 3: So you defend them generally, Yeah, because I mean, Loo,

1236
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: look at I mean, we spend thirty two billion dollars

1237
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: on healthcare, we spend one hundred and eighty million dollars

1238
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: on funal aura right, And yes, I mean, I mean,

1239
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 3: you know that's why tam are impressed with how he's gone.

1240
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 12: About trying to tighten it all up and get it

1241
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 12: gripped up and change the current set of commissioning agencies.

1242
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 12: But if you look at someone like Naitahoo now who

1243
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 12: is of tomorrow will take over as one of the

1244
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 12: big commissioning agencies, you know that commercial they are literate,

1245
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 12: they know their communities are really well embedded in the

1246
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 12: eighteen different you know, one hung across the South Island.

1247
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 12: They know what's needed, and we should sitting in Wellington

1248
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 12: with some bureaucracy trying to perfectly target and deliver cash

1249
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 12: to deliver a task of immunizations or getting kids to school.

1250
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 12: You know, why wouldn't we try that through community organizations?

1251
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 12: And we've had some really great results in those in

1252
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 12: those efforts. So yeah, so I still, you know, I

1253
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 12: believe in it. I hear your frustration, and I think

1254
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 12: that's a frustration we've had as well, which is that

1255
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 12: you know, when you're not managing conflicts, when you're not

1256
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 12: having real cleric outcomes based contracts, when you're not having

1257
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 12: auditing happening, when you're not having data collection to prove

1258
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 12: that it's driving and prepped outcomings. Yeah, that's a basic

1259
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 12: right when we should be able to sort that out,

1260
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 12: which is what Tom is doing.

1261
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Speaker 2: All right, good to see ten minutes away from it.

1262
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at be Mike.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting more and more concerned that Luxon just continues

1265
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: to fill us with CEO speak. If we don't see

1266
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: more results, he'll be looking for a job next year. Mike,

1267
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm NAPOOI and I think one hundred percent narpoo. We

1268
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: should get over themselves and settle now. It's irresponsible not

1269
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: to do so. There are some very overpaid, ego driven

1270
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: leaders and Pool you love you show very nice of

1271
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Speaker 2: you to say my favor. I think it comes to

1272
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Speaker 2: a point where you go, look, we've been at this

1273
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: for years. It's cost us millions of dollars. We're going

1274
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: to put a line in the sand, stake in the ground.

1275
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Here's the date, take it or leave it, and be

1276
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Speaker 2: that as it may.

1277
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Speaker 17: So.

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Speaker 2: I'll work through some more of your feedback later on

1279
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: in the program. We've got the sport to work cover.

1280
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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's enough coverage over the weekend

1281
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: on the business of the apology. G two Team New Zealand.

1282
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: Do you remember the furor that there was over funding,

1283
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: There were some accountants, there was a leak and it

1284
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: all went to court and it all hit the fan.

1285
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Speaker 2: That has taken years to get settled, and as a

1286
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: result of that we got the apology. So more shortly

1287
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Speaker 2: seven away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks,

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Speaker 1: they'd be I can here a real.

1290
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Speaker 2: Leader when I listened to Luxan these days. Luxan needs

1291
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: to stop snickering at these issues, Mike. None of them

1292
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Speaker 2: are likely to happen before the election. This has got

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Speaker 2: panic in six months written all over it, and so

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Speaker 2: it goes. I guess the talking point. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 2: we've got the All Blacks is coming weekend. You gripped

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Speaker 2: by the French. It's not the full French, it's just

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Speaker 2: the part French. But a test is a test in

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Speaker 2: the seasons underway, So I suppose we're excited about that.

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Speaker 2: But I think the talking point this morning is Lawson

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Speaker 2: at six. The's got points more points than Sonoda Vestappan

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Speaker 2: didn't even finish. So we'll talk more about the racing

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Speaker 2: after the news, which is next.

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Speaker 1: The news and the newsmakers, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's Real Estate, Doing real Estate differently since nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 1: News Talks, d b.

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Speaker 9: Sp it no.

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Speaker 18: Run come the Broncos who collect the points here.

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Speaker 19: Warriors won earlier in the year round number seven in

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Speaker 19: golden points.

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Speaker 18: But it's the Broncos today twenty six.

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Speaker 9: Points to twelve.

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Speaker 2: Norris Whens. The Austrian dram Prix. McClaren won two.

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Speaker 1: Under Red Bull ring Hamilton and fourth George Russell ll

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Speaker 1: come home in fifth.

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Speaker 18: Great day for Liam Lawson in sixth.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mike Husking breakfast

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01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Jason Pinne and andrews Herbert. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: It's a very good ratiation. Did you see it? Were

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Speaker 2: you up in the early hours of this morning or no?

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Speaker 17: No, but I have caught up with it and ye're good.

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Speaker 21: On Liam Lawson, lots of drama max for staff and

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Speaker 21: obviously being clipped and out of the race early on

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Speaker 21: Laws and having the battle with Alonzo.

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Speaker 17: I just delighted for him.

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Speaker 21: You know you saw him after qualifying, how pleased he

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Speaker 21: was with such a tough year to qualify sixth and

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Speaker 21: then this morning again to actually convert that into points.

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Speaker 21: Best of the Red Bull stable, better than Hadja, better

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Speaker 21: than Sonoda. Not sure what they're going to do with him. Yeah, great,

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Speaker 21: David Leamore, See this is.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing Andrew the well a couple of things

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Speaker 2: out of the race. One was Carlos Siinz's car burst

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Speaker 2: into flames after he couldn't get the started, so that

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Speaker 2: was kind of funny. And then William's Elbown lost as well,

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Speaker 2: so they didn't get a single point. But Lawson's now

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Speaker 2: got more points than Sonoda, so Jason's point is good.

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Speaker 2: So if Max goes to Mercedes and Lawson, they punted

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Speaker 2: him because he can't drive the car he left with

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Speaker 2: Hadga and Lawson. So suddenly one of the great teams

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Speaker 2: of motor racing has what a couple of junior drivers?

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Speaker 17: You mean you mean they get rid of Sonoda.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Sona's going to go at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year because Honda's gone and they don't like Snoda

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Speaker 2: at the best thing.

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Speaker 17: When Liam was struggling with the with the top flight

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Speaker 17: Red Bull that there was so much made about it,

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Speaker 17: but Sinoda's struggling and you hardly hear anything.

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Speaker 2: No the problem. Well, I think I'm open to correction,

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01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: but I think there was so much made about it

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Speaker 2: based on the fact two things. One we were more

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Speaker 2: interested because it was a local issue too. Sure, they

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Speaker 2: killed they killed them after two races. They can't get

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Speaker 2: rid of Sonoda. They would if they could, but they

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Speaker 2: can't because he's no better than laws Iners. So if

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Speaker 2: the same you know, thinking applies, he'd be well gone.

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Speaker 2: You can't two drivers in the season.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. So they stuck

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Speaker 17: with them. A couple of things on Liam Lawson. Look

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Speaker 17: in in previous races that incident with was Antonelli, that

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Speaker 17: he would have probably had his car written off. That

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Speaker 17: that's look, that's been Lawson's luck this year. So maybe

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Speaker 17: this is a turnaround in luck, which you do need

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Speaker 17: a fair amount of in motor racing. Right. The second

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Speaker 17: issue will this be or how much of a boost

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Speaker 17: will this be for his confidence going to into the

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Speaker 17: the second half of the season. That that that's a

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Speaker 17: that's a strong result, strong qualifying proves his car is

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Speaker 17: quick in amongst that sort of second tier if you like,

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Speaker 17: of cars, and this would be this would be a massive.

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Speaker 2: You'd believe him in the sense and he said he

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Speaker 2: said it before and he said it over the weekend

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Speaker 2: as well, that they are there, they know they're there.

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Speaker 2: They've got that. Just so many things that need to

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Speaker 2: come together on the day for it to work. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, who would have thought Carlos sites at the

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Speaker 2: back of the field, the car blows up and burst

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Speaker 2: into flames. I mean, you know that's well.

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Speaker 17: And Lawson has had his share of mechanical issues. Sounds

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Speaker 17: the guy setting him.

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Speaker 2: So Yeah, yeah it was.

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Speaker 17: It was wonderful, A clean run, Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 2: And of course this weekend we've got Silverstone and that's

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Speaker 2: one of the great races of all time. Are you

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Speaker 2: a little under the weather? They're Andrew got a little

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Speaker 2: bit of something, a little bit of transseasonal, not.

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Speaker 17: Just a bit no, just no, I'm fine, thanks, just

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Speaker 17: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You don't sound you don't sound. He sounds trouble, doesn't he? Jason.

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Speaker 21: I think he's fronted up. I think that's very low

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01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 21: normally for not being here, but fronts it up. I

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Speaker 21: think it deserves the praise.

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Speaker 17: No yet, that the highlight of my week. The period

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Speaker 17: I feel the most on top of the world and

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Speaker 17: most positive is between eight and thirty and a Monday mornings.

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Speaker 2: As long as you do you need a bit of

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Speaker 2: pseudo eph dream or something.

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Speaker 17: No, no, no, no, I don't like taking stuff like that.

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01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that might be your problem, of course, couldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Look I'm not here. I'm not here to give you

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01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: medical advice if you want to sound like that. For

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Speaker 2: the rest of the segment, no problem at all.

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Speaker 17: I'm still getting over the amount of times the Prome

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Speaker 17: Minister said friggin and dumb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't know what's going on there,

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Speaker 2: but at least at least the Northern Motorway. Andrew, do

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01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: you hear the good news on the Northern Motorway? Is

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01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: it starting tomorrow one hundred and ten the whole way through?

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01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 17: I thought you meant building the next stage of the motorway.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's no, that's out in a minute.

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Speaker 17: I drove up, I drove up the North this weekend.

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Speaker 17: Was it one hundred and ten?

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Speaker 2: No, No, it doesn't. I just said it doesn't start

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Speaker 2: till to my borrow. Well you are you surely even

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01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 2: need some pseudo refor dream cheesez.

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Speaker 17: I can't comment on whether I was coming or not.

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Speaker 2: No, now your bit the further but that they got

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01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: three three companies down to the bids and they are

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Speaker 2: now putting their submissions in at which point, by the

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Speaker 2: end of this year, they will be you. You will

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: know that one of them has been awarded the contract

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Speaker 2: and they'll start digging good next year.

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Speaker 17: So once I might, I might might still be alive

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Speaker 17: when the road reaches fung Ar.

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01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: Eight, you may well do. And so more construction news

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Speaker 2: after the break thirteen minutes past eight The.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by.

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Speaker 2: News Talks it Be News Talks quarter past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday morning commentary box on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: I know you had Razor and yesterday Jason as he

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01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: fizzling set to go.

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01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 21: Yeah he is and he would be, wouldn't he You know,

1438
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 21: had to watch Super Rugby until he could get his

1439
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 21: hands on his players. Look, I think we're all but

1440
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 21: underwhelmed by the French team that's coming. But that's not

1441
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 21: Rais's fault, that's not the All Black's fault. All they

1442
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 21: can do is go out there and beat them convincingly

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01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 21: in the next three tests. I think what it will

1444
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 21: do is give us an opportunity to see all of

1445
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 21: the new players. Looking forward to seeing dup if he

1446
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 21: get a testable at some point what he does at ten,

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01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 21: Sam will have a view on this. I know Barrett

1448
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 21: or McKenzie and whether Riccoe Yoanni plays at center or

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01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 21: Billy Procter does. Riccaue Yovanni seems completely unwilling to discuss

1450
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 21: the possibility of playing on the wing, but I think

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01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 21: that's probably where he should play in this current team.

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01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 17: Do all you.

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01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: Guys in the Weeds always talk like this at the pub, like,

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01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean, here's my thing about the or I couldn't

1455
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: give him monkeys where people play all I wants a

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01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: good team on the field and they win the game.

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's going to play at first five

1458
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: I've seen.

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Speaker 21: Well that's exactly how I talk I talked this way

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Speaker 21: all the time.

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Speaker 17: Maybe you need to start living in the Weeds, Mike

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01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 17: and head down to your local boozer a heaven.

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01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's just, don't you What we want

1464
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: is victory, a good side and a good victory. And

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Speaker 2: whether Barrett's there, all mackenzie's there, or you know, it's

1466
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: just you want the best players on the field and

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Speaker 2: to let them win the game. Don't you?

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Speaker 17: Are you excite to see. I'm intrigued to see how

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Speaker 17: they play in these French tests because they've picked the

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Speaker 17: team full of power to try and smack their way

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Speaker 17: over the game line. If it works against the French

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Speaker 17: team missing a lot of superstars, well done. But I

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01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 17: still think the spring Box are probably sitting over there

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 17: in South Africa licking their chops at the thought of

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Speaker 17: all Blacks trying to smash them over the game line

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Speaker 17: or backwards?

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Speaker 2: What are we looking forward to, Jason and too, because

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Speaker 2: I know we talk about the same it's the same

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Speaker 2: teams every year. It's a bit of Australia, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of Argentina, a little bit of South As you

1481
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just like here we go again.

1482
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: Is it different or more exciting this year?

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01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 10: Oh?

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 21: Well, I think South Africa coming in September absolutely. Is

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 21: that test on the sixth of September at Eden Park

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Speaker 21: I think will be Yeah, that's the one, is speak,

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Speaker 21: That is the one defending that Eden Park record against

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Speaker 21: the world champion. So as Seth says, we'll come here,

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Speaker 21: you know, absolutely ready to.

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Speaker 2: But we'll have a good vibe at that point too,

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01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: won't we. How we're looking how we played who we've

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Speaker 2: beaten all that I mean.

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Speaker 17: I mean it's it's interesting because they go to Argentina

1494
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 17: for the first to opening games. You're Blacks. That's not easy.

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Speaker 17: The Australian team will be a bit battered, probably from

1496
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Speaker 17: the Lions series, but Joe Schmid will have them up

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Speaker 17: with fizzing. So then the spring box came.

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Speaker 2: Here is that Lions two are boring as I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Lions two is only interesting if you're playing somebody

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Speaker 2: good in the Australians.

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Speaker 17: Aren't the good well, the Force team with the worst

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 17: Aussie side, right, they played the Queensland Reds on Wednesday night,

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Speaker 17: so might be get a better indication. Then.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a little bit and I confess this at

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Speaker 2: the start of the show, but I'm concerned about the

1506
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: Warriors for the following reasons. The only teams that we

1507
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: lose to are the top teams. So in other words,

1508
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: we're in that group where as good as they are,

1509
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: but when we come to playing that level, we lose

1510
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: and consistently and that's not a good sign.

1511
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 17: So what do we do?

1512
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: Sam?

1513
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 17: I thought of you on Thursday night. That not that

1514
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 17: I often think of you on a Thursday night, but

1515
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 17: I was watching the Penrith Panthers play the Bulldogs and

1516
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 17: that game was a league above anything else, and that game.

1517
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 17: In a game like that, I don't think the Warriors

1518
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 17: could stick with either of those teams now.

1519
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: And that's the problem. See, the Panthers are coming right

1520
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: or have come right, yep, And so that's why we

1521
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: got beaten by them last week. So I get that.

1522
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't down about that, but I am down against

1523
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: the Broncos because we've beaten the Broncos and the Broncos

1524
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: have got it together. We're not getting it together. We

1525
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 2: don't look like, you know, we were there or thereabouts

1526
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. But it's it's just

1527
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: we're losing too consistently to those top sites.

1528
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 17: And this team the last few years has had flat patches.

1529
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 17: Let's hope it's they're not going through one of those.

1530
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: And injuries.

1531
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 21: Luke MetPath and Chance that one on when Chance went down,

1532
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 21: I thought that was he got smacked.

1533
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: Around all game. Guy got to all about eighteen times.

1534
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean, I know we've had players out in

1535
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 21: the season, like Offisher Harris too with us as ship,

1536
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 21: but losing Metcalf, that's massive. I must say though watching

1537
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 21: you watch the Warriors was one of life's true joys.

1538
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 21: Mike Kate, so we again, Did she do that again

1539
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 21: over the weekend? You need to go and have a

1540
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 21: look at it as absolutely, And.

1541
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: How did I not know that she was? I know

1542
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: she stormed out of the lounge. Did she get the

1543
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: bit where I stormed out of the lounge.

1544
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 21: Yes, but she also got a number of a number

1545
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 21: of outbursts which you know would certainly not be not

1546
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 21: be welcome on the Mike hosting breakfast.

1547
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 17: I can tell you that it's just tremendously you must know,

1548
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 17: you must know.

1549
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: No, no, because she hadn't done it.

1550
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 17: No, because I think the giveaway on the video clip

1551
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 17: is when she calls out action very very good and

1552
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 17: then she and then she redoes your powder at halftime.

1553
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 2: No, no, there's none of that. Hey, listen, just very

1554
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: quickly because of this team music. I alluded to this

1555
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: before this Team New Zealand apology that they got right,

1556
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 2: do you remember, I mean, saf you must have remembered

1557
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: the league and all that long ago, I thought, Because

1558
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: that's my point. My point is the legal process takes

1559
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: so long, so if you've been wronged which team New

1560
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: Zealand were and you've been proven to be wronged. Should

1561
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: you not get because you remember at the time that

1562
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: was a tumultuous story of high drama, so very big headlines.

1563
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden the apology comes in half

1564
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: a dozen years later, and it's sort of like, oh,

1565
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: you might see it in the corner if you're lucky,

1566
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. There should be a rule

1567
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: whereby if you were, if you were wronged so publicly

1568
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: at the start, you must be apologized to with with

1569
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,560
Speaker 2: as big a noise as you were, you know what

1570
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: I mean.

1571
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 17: So at least I think there was an out of

1572
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 17: court settlement. I'd be surprised if the company that took

1573
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 17: teams in the court and then vice versa, if they're

1574
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 17: had any money left at all.

1575
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeahs interesting. Do you see the five million a Jason

1576
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: five million dollars gain for all Aukland from sale GP.

1577
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 2: I was disappointed in that. I only five men. I'd

1578
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 2: take five million dollars in any day. But I mean,

1579
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: Auckland's a big city, one and a half million people,

1580
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: and you get a bigger thing like that and all

1581
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: you can do is get chitching five million. That's not much,

1582
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: is it?

1583
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 17: But I think I think what you find, Mike, is

1584
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 17: it compared to say Taylor Swift concert or Luke HOLMBS

1585
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 17: or whatever. Most of the people watching that are from Auckland,

1586
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 17: so they don't.

1587
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: Travel for a year. No good point. Yeah, So I

1588
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 2: don't know is that worth it because it's just been

1589
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: to twenty six centl Yeah.

1590
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 21: I think I was surprised, surprise they didn't go for

1591
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 21: a longer dealt we're coming back next year. Obviously, Russell

1592
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 21: Coats wanted a five year deal. I think that is

1593
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 21: on the table. I think it will go beyond the

1594
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 21: one year, but then ship it in.

1595
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 17: I have it every year there.

1596
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: All right, nice to see you guys. We'll catch up

1597
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: next week. Andrew Sevill and Jason Pine get better, SAP.

1598
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 2: It's say twenty two.

1599
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, News Dogs.

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01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: Head b Now, I tell you what you don't build

1601
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: the Ultimate Defender, playing it safe. So three years of

1602
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 2: development for this one, thirteen thousand additional tests. They're in

1603
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: the Arctic, Sahara and newburg Ring the Dakar terrain, so

1604
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: basically they took the Defender one ten, pushed it to

1605
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: its limits, rewrote the whole thing. So the result is

1606
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: the Octa. The Defender oct the most powerful Defender ever made.

1607
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: Under the beautiful engine twin turbov eight six hundred and

1608
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: twenty six horsepower zero to one hundred and four seconds.

1609
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: It crawls over the rocks, crosses the rivers, tears through

1610
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: the dunes, fast, relentless, just landed in the country. Are

1611
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: all terrain tires. She's a beast reinforced axles, raised ride wider,

1612
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: stant sixty dynamic hair suspension, adjusting in real time to

1613
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 2: whatever is in front of it. That's a really clever

1614
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: piece of kit. And the Octa button. There's an Octa button.

1615
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: It's on the student where you push that tightens everything up,

1616
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: sharpens it up. Suddenly. This two and a half time

1617
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: suv moves like something half the size, conkers like a

1618
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 2: Defender should. It is a whole new breed. So hello,

1619
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. It's the Defender oct and you

1620
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: can see it at your nearest Landrover dealer two days.

1621
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: If you're speaking of cars and speaking of this, I

1622
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: knowe that Nick Cassidy was saying an event's sales GP.

1623
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 2: He reckons Nick Cassidy, who drives for Jaguar of course,

1624
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: along with Mitchevans. Obviously he reckons the Formula Ree should

1625
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: come here. They've got sixteen rounds, ten countries. He gets

1626
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: some support, but the support isn't great in terms of volume.

1627
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: I think it would be really important to get a

1628
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 2: race in Australasia at some point, so it's probably not

1629
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: a bad idea.

1630
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 18: You couldn't do it during Window DA because we will

1631
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 18: have enough power.

1632
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: Probably sounds a cold morning. We'll put the start at

1633
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: three o'clock once the sun comes out. News for you

1634
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: in a couple of moments. Then we'll cross the Tasman

1635
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: and catch up with Steve Price her News Talk ser.

1636
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day. It's

1637
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: the my casting Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life

1638
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: your Way, News, TOGSADB.

1639
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: Christiana Ronaldo's got a new contract and he's in the

1640
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 2: Middle East, and I'll give you the numbers in just

1641
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: a couple of moments. And I think about him recently.

1642
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: Do you not want to if you're Christian Christiana Ronaldo

1643
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: play for somebody important? In other words, you don't want

1644
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: to plan a league? No one cares about. No one

1645
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: cares about the league that he's in the Saudi Pro League,

1646
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: Golden Boot, whatever you call it league. Here's what he's

1647
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: getting paid. He's getting paid one hundred and seventy eight

1648
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: million pounds a year, so that's three seventy three seventy

1649
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 2: three eighty million. He's got fifteen percent ownership of the team.

1650
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: It's valued at sixty million. He got a fifty million

1651
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: dollars signing bonus. That increased to about seventy seventy five

1652
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: million dollars if he activates the second year of the contract.

1653
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: He gets paid one hundred and sixty one hundred and

1654
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: seventy thousand dollars per goal. That increases twenty percent in

1655
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 2: the second year. He gets about eighty thousand dollars per assis.

1656
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do is pass the ball?

1657
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: He goes, Hey, they're it a you, ad Graham. He

1658
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,839
Speaker 2: gets sixteen million dollars if his team wins the Saudi

1659
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: Pro League. I mean, who else, namely four teams in

1660
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 2: the Saudi Pro League. You can't. He gets eight million

1661
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: if he wins the Golden Boot. He gets twelve million

1662
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: if they qualify for the Asian Champions League and win it.

1663
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: Currently he's got sixteen people working full time for him,

1664
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: including three drivers, for housekeepers, two chips, three gardeners and

1665
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: four security people. He gets eight million dollars worth a

1666
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: private jet time covered by the team, and he gets

1667
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty million dollars worth of sponsorship deals

1668
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: as well. But so yes, he's got a lot of coin,

1669
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: a lot of housekeepers. But as is he happy?

1670
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 18: Tell you what if they want me to do like

1671
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 18: a Saudi radio show over there that nobody listens to,

1672
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 18: I would do it.

1673
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: I'd do it.

1674
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 18: I'd do it for one hundred million, but I need

1675
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,520
Speaker 18: five gardeners.

1676
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: No worries, twenty one minutes away.

1677
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 14: From nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

1678
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 14: of mind for New Zealand business.

1679
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: See prices for this morning mate.

1680
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's like live golf. No one cares about that either.

1681
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 19: I mean all those big name golfers have gone off

1682
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 19: the plane lived. I mean when did you watch a

1683
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 19: live golf to on them on television.

1684
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: That's a funny thing, isn't it, Because you get paid

1685
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: on live every weekend, and so you into the weekend

1686
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: knowing you will get a check of some description. And

1687
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: you've got to think at some point that that takes

1688
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: the fizz out of it, doesn't it.

1689
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 19: Well, Cameron Smith, I mean, the great golfer was going

1690
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 19: to be number one in the world and what does

1691
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 19: he now? No one knows. He just disappeared.

1692
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 10: Weird.

1693
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: Now, this is the problem, of course, with the five

1694
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: percent of NATO. Last week in the Big Wing for

1695
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: Trump as a muse with China goes hello, five percent

1696
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: is it? And you've got trouble, don't you?

1697
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 17: You do?

1698
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 19: And the relationship between Australia and the US is at

1699
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 19: its lowest level I can ever remember in my whole life,

1700
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 19: which is not for Australia given how little we do

1701
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 19: spend on defense, which you and I've talked about before.

1702
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 19: But the Chinese ambassador to Australia has written in the

1703
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 19: Australian newspaper today that he thinks that you know, we're friends,

1704
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 19: we don't need to be spending a lot of money,

1705
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 19: not foes. Beijing's military said they're built up was normal

1706
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 19: and it was a just one point five percent of

1707
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 19: the Chinese GDP was being spent on the People's Liberation Army.

1708
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 19: And he doesn't see the problem for Australia to keep

1709
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 19: spending what it's spending. Well, of course he wouldn't because

1710
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 19: we're not spending enough and we're absolutely ready for the

1711
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 19: right for the taking now. Anthony Aberneze's problem, Mike is

1712
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 19: that he's still not met Donald Trump, he's not seen

1713
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 19: him face to face. And next month he goes to

1714
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 19: China for a meeting with Ji Jinping, and so he's

1715
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 19: going to see the Chinese leader before he sees the

1716
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 19: American president who runs the biggest military in the world,

1717
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 19: which is supposed to be our ally, it's not a

1718
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 19: good look. Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister, she is in

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Speaker 19: Washington this week. She won't meet Trump either, but she's

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Speaker 19: over there to attend something called the Quad, which is India,

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01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 19: the US, the UK and US, I believe, and so

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01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 19: she'll be talking to the Americans. But Anthony Albniz is

1723
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 19: still nothing. I mean, he's pledged to spend what he

1724
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 19: needs to spend, only he will not take it up

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Speaker 19: to three point five percent. It's going to be somewhere

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Speaker 19: down lower than much lower than that. And we're just

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01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 19: completely exposed. So I don't know how they're going to

1728
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 19: repair this problem. Donald Trump probably doesn't care. He's got

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01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 19: too much else on his plate to be worrying too

1730
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 19: much about Australia, and so we're stuck in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, now, so can Victoria. When Victoria's getting in your

1732
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 2: own version of the voice, where does it stop and

1733
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: where does it start? The reason I said I was following.

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Speaker 2: There was a new South Wales budget last week. There

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01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 2: was a Queensland budget. I can't remember, was it Friday

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01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: or whenever it was. How much of your life is

1737
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: dictated to you by state v federal?

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01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 19: Well, every every small annoying tax is what gets you,

1739
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 19: particularly in Victoria. I remember they've just set up a

1740
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 19: whole bunch more speed cameras which will pin you with

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Speaker 19: if you're doing forty two in a forty zero I

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01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 19: find of which I got last week. So you pay

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01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 19: two hundred and seventy five dollars for that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, can you kill a meters an hour?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 19: Two k over the limit. I get slugged two hundred

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01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 19: and seventy five dollars and I lose one demerit point

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01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 19: as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh my camera, because I'm interested in this and that

1750
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: is that a cop or is that a camera?

1751
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 19: I can't remember it's a camera. It's not a police

1752
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 19: officer pulling me over, and say, how do.

1753
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Speaker 2: They justify your point on your license? If you could

1754
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: go that wasn't me.

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Speaker 19: We can go to court via a lawyer if you want,

1756
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 19: but no one does, so they just pizza. I'm now

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01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 19: at eight demerit points. The maximum you can have is twelve,

1758
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 19: So you know, I'm getting up there and you don't

1759
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 19: know where these things are. They're just stuck stuff on

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Speaker 19: an intersection. I went back through my diary, looked at

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Speaker 19: the street and thought, oh, well, you know, I guess

1762
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Speaker 19: I was going down there, but I didn't realize I

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01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 19: was doing forty two, not forty, and so I get

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01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 19: slugg to hundred and seventy.

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Speaker 2: Five kason hour plus a demerit point. It's like a

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01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: police state, it is.

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Speaker 19: I mean, you shouldn't be on your phone, I know,

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01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 19: in your cab, but if you've caught on one of

1769
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 19: the phone cameras, it is four demerit points. And I

1770
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 19: think at three hundred and fifty dollars fine, So do

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01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 19: that twice you can lose your license. So it's not great,

1772
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 19: not great. No, Yeah, the voice well got voted down

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01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 19: by this training public. Obviously, Victoria has had something called

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Speaker 19: the URUK Justice Commission meeting for the last three years.

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01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 19: They've now come to a point where the first People's

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01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 19: Assembly is going to be created, a state based version

1777
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 19: of the Voice. The government won't spill out exactly what

1778
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 19: it's going to be. It'll end up being a treaty

1779
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 19: expected to be able to provide advice on This is

1780
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 19: the keyy all laws and government policies that affect Indigenous Victorians,

1781
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 19: everything from health and education to crime and development. So

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01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 19: basically they've got a seat at the cabinet table.

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Speaker 2: Unreal. And then so you're still saying not guilty or

1784
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: maybe not guilty. My wife agrees with you. Actually she's

1785
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: followed it a bit more than either. She says she

1786
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised remotely if she gets off today.

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Speaker 19: Yea very sensible and smart and obviously the more clever

1788
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 19: one in the family here. The jury will go out today.

1789
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 19: We think the judge was wrapping up on Friday. He's

1790
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 19: going to come back this morning in more Well and

1791
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 19: continue to direct the jury. He said very interestingly, Justice

1792
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 19: Bill that just because Aaron Patterson and this is what

1793
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 19: you need to listen to it might have told lies

1794
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 19: after a deadly beat Wellington lunch she hosted. It did

1795
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 19: not mean she should be found guilty. The comment was

1796
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 19: made as he continued his charge to those fourteen jurors

1797
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 19: that are repaired back to twelve. That's the key. Yeah,

1798
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 19: that's the clee. Yeah, I will be right, you will

1799
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 19: be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now that's fine. And do you think that they

1801
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: go out today? They'll be back by Wednesday when you're

1802
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: on the program or not.

1803
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Speaker 19: I hope. So, I mean if they come back Thursday

1804
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 19: or Friday, I'll come and talk to you. Anyone.

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01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm going fantastic. Well, Steve Price out of Australia back

1806
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: on Wednesday and we'll see how we go there.

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Speaker 1: Eight forty five The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

1808
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Speaker 2: Mike, she told lies, But who cooked the meal? She

1810
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: sawce the mushrooms, she disposed of the hydrator, she had

1811
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Speaker 2: a different plate. How much swaying of the jury are

1812
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 2: they going to see? Yeah, that's sort of what I

1813
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: would base it on. She's seen fairly. But of course

1814
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: did she set out to kill them? Which is what

1815
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: the charge of murder is all about of course, Mike,

1816
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 2: and Australia speed camera automatically allocates the demerits to a

1817
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 2: registered vehicle. Ower. What's worse in Victoria the automatic allocation

1818
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: of demerits whether you were driving the carra or not,

1819
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 2: or the fact you get pinged for two k's. I

1820
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: mean two k's are ridiculous. That's pathetic. You can write

1821
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: in and name who was driving if it wasn't you, Mike.

1822
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: In Australia, until recently people were being paid fifteen hundred

1823
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: dollars a point to say it was them in the car.

1824
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: It's good coin, isn't this? Is that true or an

1825
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: urban myth?

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Speaker 10: Mike?

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Speaker 2: Another great recommendation thinks Brassic is excellent. It says well

1828
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Speaker 2: worth it. If you haven't discovered over the weekend, get

1829
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Speaker 2: amongst Let me ask you this question and give me

1830
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: an answer if you know it. So reading about the

1831
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: meat plants at the moment. So one of the things

1832
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: we know about the economy at the moment is where

1833
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: making it. We got another dairy auction this week, by

1834
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: the way, on Wednesday. But one of the things we

1835
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 2: know about the economy is the farmers are doing brilliantly

1836
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 2: for us. Meat is being sold like it's never been

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01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 2: sold before all over the world, particularly to America. Though,

1838
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: and yet I also read over the weekend that meat

1839
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: plants are struggling to match low volumes of livestock. So

1840
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 2: does that then lead you to ask the question, if

1841
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 2: we had more cattle and sheep, we'd process more of

1842
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 2: them and sell more. Or are we getting good returns

1843
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 2: based on the fact that we're not making enough meat?

1844
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: Very competitive environments, so the farmers are getting a good return,

1845
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 2: But Silver Fern Farms, they're appalling thousands of seasonal workers

1846
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: off the chain to match capacity with the supply of livestock.

1847
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: Supply of livestock isn't there. We've got about three thousand

1848
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: of our workers on seasonal layoff right now, which normally

1849
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: would be running full steam aheads. So on one hand

1850
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: we're hearing the good news about bringing the money in

1851
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 2: on red meat. On the other hand, we're not doing

1852
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: as much as we could. Why aren't we doing more?

1853
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: Answer me that question. If the money's there, and the

1854
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: markets are there, and the demand is there, why aren't

1855
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: we doing more? And why are so many people on

1856
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 2: seasonal leave at the meat works, what's going on? Nine

1857
01:25:58,920 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 2: to nine?

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, octurn Us Togs

1859
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Speaker 1: Dead b.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of you are saying pine trees,

1862
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: and I think I'd already worked that one through, which

1863
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 2: is sort of the answer. I get that part of it.

1864
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: But my question is more along the lines of if

1865
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: we And maybe that's true, I don't know, But my

1866
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 2: question is if we had more stock, could we sell more?

1867
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,759
Speaker 2: Or are we maxed out in terms of international markets

1868
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: and the return from And it just happens that the

1869
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: freezing works used to be bigger than they are and

1870
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: now they're down. Do you see what I'm saying? So, yeah, no,

1871
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: it probably is the trees in terms of actual production.

1872
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 2: But even if we could do more, would we be

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01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: able to do more? Is my question? I think I

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01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: watched very briefly over the weekend. I had no idea.

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01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 2: One of the great joys of my life is I

1876
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: got a couple of fig trees. I didn't they were

1877
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: already there, and so I thought this would be interesting

1878
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: because I was always told that things are hard to grow,

1879
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: and I've done nothing to them and they just grow

1880
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: like this. No tomorrow and they're sensational. What I didn't

1881
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: realize they're a flower. They're an actual flower, and when

1882
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: you open them up, that's the flower itself. They're just

1883
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: not pollinated, hence they don't open anyway. The reason I

1884
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: watch I saw Ben Bailey. Ben Bailey the Chef has

1885
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: got this program called New Zealand Food Story on I

1886
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: can't remember Saturday or Sunday night. It's brilliant and they

1887
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: talk to a fig grower. What I also didn't realize

1888
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: is how many different sorts of figs there are. And

1889
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: they're incredible, the most amazing thing, and of all the

1890
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 2: fruit trees I've got, it's the most brings me, the

1891
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 2: most joy of the figs. And yet I don't like

1892
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: them and I don't eat them, which I always think

1893
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: is kind of ironic.

1894
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 18: But are you sure they're figs?

1895
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: Are not persons that are under different circumstances, Glenn would

1896
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: be one true and be funny, but on this I

1897
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 2: am one hundred percent certain that they are indeed figs.

1898
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: Five minutes away from nine.

1899
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 1: It's trending now with chemist warehouses celebrate big brands and

1900
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: biggest savings. Now.

1901
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: I just texted Katie before and I said. The guys

1902
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 2: in the sports said that you film me again? And

1903
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 2: she goes, what, I don't know what you're talking about?

1904
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: What a liar?

1905
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 9: Say?

1906
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Here we go, let's go.

1907
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,560
Speaker 10: Do they break? Here we go?

1908
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 17: Play it?

1909
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 2: Play, get out, play, get up? Play Look you're there?

1910
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 17: What the doing?

1911
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 10: Oh say, listen to music?

1912
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 13: Get you.

1913
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 10: So Jesus Christ, ho for off off next forward to

1914
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 10: it in gonn to school and fast. But there's no

1915
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 10: one there, you know, looking.

1916
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 2: Unfablievable. Six seconds to go. Oh nice, tech hoo, we've

1917
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: got it.

1918
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 12: Yes, well done.

1919
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 13: Oh come on nice, come on, go go.

1920
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 7: Go run striper.

1921
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 18: Un confused?

1922
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 12: Were we in this?

1923
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 18: It was a waste of time. The real roller coaster rye.

1924
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 18: Wasn't it to roll the coast?

1925
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 17: Right?

1926
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 10: I said.

1927
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: I stormed out of the lounge at the end, and

1928
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 2: I saw her on the phone, and I said, you

1929
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: better not be filming me. Don't film me.

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Speaker 18: Do you guys have your own defibrillator by just in case?

1931
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Speaker 2: Actually i've got health news. I don't have time to

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Speaker 2: tell you. I've got health news. I got oh that's

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Speaker 2: a bubble, No, I've got health news. And I talked

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Speaker 2: whether it's good or bad health news, so I'll have

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Speaker 2: to come back on this one tomorrow. Ryan Fox is back,

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Speaker 2: Little's Aha of the Open. Of course, he's in California,

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Speaker 2: I think, at the moment before he hits to Scotland. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: all of that's still the come tomorrow after six as always,

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Speaker 2: Happy Guy.

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