1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Day two of Elbow's trip to China and Oliver Peterson 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: six PR per F LIVEE presenters with us Hey Ali, 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey Ryan. How's it going for him? 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: They're good. 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: He's had a big press conference just a short time 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: ago where he said decarbonization and free trade are going 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: to be the two main areas he hopes to discuss 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 3: with the Chinese. 9 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: President, Jijing Ping. They're set to catch up tomorrow morning. 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: He's looking forward to a constructive conversation. And he had 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: standing next to him today Andrew Forrest of ford Eskew Metals. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: They're part of a trade talk, part of a trade 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: meeting about trying to put the pressure on Chinese steelmakers 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: about decarbonizing their steelmaking process. Let's be blunt, Ryan, and 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 3: not going to listen to an Australian businessman or the 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 3: Australian Prime minicy and do whatever they want to do. 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: And this comes in the background of a bit of 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: pressure coming from the Pentagon about Anthony Albanizi being in 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: China at the moments and whether the orcus is up 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 3: for discussion, and also whether or not he is going 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: to be battering away a few questions at the moment 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: about the future of Taiwan. So you expect these sort 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: of diplomatic pressures to be applied when the Australian Prime 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Minister is currently in China. 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: But at the moment it's all smiles from Italy. 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: It's fascinating that because the reporters are going, will you 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: follow America into a war against China over Taiwan? While 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: he's in Shannghai, he's handling it a turnaround and say yeah, 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: I go, well, I don't even know what for at 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: this point, or you know who's joining us exactly. 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: And he's been asked about the Porter Darwin contract as 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: an example, which he has previously said we'll come back 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: into Australian ownership, and that he's being told that a 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: you know, prominent blogger or some social media star in 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: China is saying, if you know Australia does this, there'll be. 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Dire consequences for Australia. 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: I mean he's just responded by saying, I'm not sure 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: who the blogger is, but governments can't respond in policy 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: terms every time an articles written, a tweet or a 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: blog and change their position. 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's an interesting environment, isn't it. 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Ryan. 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Now the Aussie Treasury sounds a bit like Ow's that 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: she's saying put taxes up. 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. 46 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: They've accidentally leaked this Treasury advice saying that we should 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: be putting up taxes, we should be slashing spending. This 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: was advice provided to the Albanezi governed after the election. 49 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: It accidentally released this information in response to freedom of 50 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: information requests before pleading with the journalists to go and 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: destroy the document. 52 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not going to go and destroy that, 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: are you. 54 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: They said tax should be raised as part of a 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: broader tax reform, and it suggested that the ambitious targets 56 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: pledged by the Prime Minister to build another one point 57 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: two million homes over the next five years to address 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: the housing crisis. 59 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: Will not be met. 60 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: Now. I mean, there's a few boffins in Treasury who've 61 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: made that comment, but you could have asked anybody in 62 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: Australia right now. 63 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: They're so far behind those targets. 64 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: It's not coming as a big surprise, and you know 65 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: they don't want to raise taxes again. 66 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: This smiling for me to we are a treasurer of Jim 67 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: Chalmers out today, We'll meet those targets. Everything's fine, Australia. 68 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: Austraight is good. There's something to see here. 69 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Boo's not so good apparently. Well, there's a push 70 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: to have cancer risk labels on bottles of boos. 71 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is actually a trend which is actually 72 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: happening around the world. But the Cancer Council here in 73 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 3: Australia is starting to fire this one up and suggesting 74 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: that every single bottle of alcohol that's sold in this 75 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: country should come with their cancer warning, much like they 76 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: do in Australia at the moment, about the risks in 77 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: regards to pregnancy if you're going to be drinking, and 78 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: we now have obviously printed on the side of a 79 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: cigarette of each single legal cigarette sold, although more illegal 80 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: cigarettes are being sold than legal cigarettes, the dangers that 81 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: could be doing to your body in the cancer risks 82 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: associated with it, So the evidence is clear. Saying that 83 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: kiss star at the UK Prime Minister said it's urgently 84 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: needed over there to help save lives, so we should 85 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: be doing something similar. It's getting a bit of a 86 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: lukewarm response, a bit like a flat beer at the moment. 87 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: There's not much interest in this country to be. 88 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: Putting even more labeling on our beers and our bottles 89 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: are wine. But I'm sure it will happen eventually, Ryan, 90 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: And you know that's just what the public health lobby 91 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: groups like to promote. 92 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: It's just the way the world goes, isn't it, Ollie? 93 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Thank you? Does it stop us drinking beer? 94 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: No? 95 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Olive? Olli Peterson with our six pr pers Live presented. 96 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 97 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: news talks. 98 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 99 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio