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Speaker 1: The only Drive show you can trust Trump to ask

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Speaker 1: the question, you get the answers, find a sack and

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Speaker 1: give the analysis. Heather Duplicy Ellen, Drive with One New

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Speaker 2: That'd be Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up today, we have former Republican Communications Director Doug Hay

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Speaker 2: on Donald Trump's speech, the home care helpers on the

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Speaker 2: mileage rates boost, They've just got to help with the

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Speaker 2: fuel prices. And Mark Ruppert on whether we should be

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Speaker 2: excited about the Artemist Moon trip. Heather Duplicy Allen, Well,

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Speaker 2: if you were hoping that Donald Trump's scheduling a speech

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Speaker 2: for two hours ago meant that there was going to

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Speaker 2: be some sort of a development in the war, either

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Speaker 2: the US pulling out or putting boots on the ground

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Speaker 2: or opening the strait, then you, like me, would have

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Speaker 2: been disappointed because there was no news, was there. There

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Speaker 2: was no announcement. Donald Trump was simply trying to convince

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Speaker 2: American voters with his pr and it's stuff he said before.

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Speaker 2: So the main points of the speech were that Irana

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Speaker 2: bad guys who needed to be stopped. The US will

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Speaker 2: hit them hard, in the next two to three weeks. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the war is making feel more expensive, but not because

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Speaker 2: of what he's done. It's because of what the Iranians

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Speaker 2: have done, as in shutting the strait. Actually, the war

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Speaker 2: isn't taking that long compared to other wars like World

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Speaker 2: War II that went on for three years, eight months

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Speaker 2: and twenty five days. Trump never wanted regime change in Iran,

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Speaker 2: the radical leaders have been killed and the new leaders

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Speaker 2: to the Stone ages. None of this, as I say,

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Speaker 2: this before. So why did he call the speech for

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Speaker 2: two o'clock our time? Because he's worried American voters are

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Speaker 2: not on board with what he's done. Ah, So he's

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Speaker 2: And he's trying to sell the message that actually this

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Speaker 2: And he's also trying to sell the message that when

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Speaker 2: even though if he pulls out without changing their regime,

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Speaker 2: he will have lost because all he will have done

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Speaker 2: is set around back in its evil doing, but not

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Speaker 2: prevent the evil from recurring. But there is no end

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Speaker 2: for this war. There is no opening of the strait

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Speaker 2: as of two hours ago. In the speech, there is.

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Speaker 1: No news either. Duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety two is the text understand a text fees

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Speaker 2: apply And Doug, as I say, Doug Hay, former Republican

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Speaker 2: communications director who watched the speech, is with us after

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Speaker 2: five o'clock to give us his take. Now, the spat

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Speaker 2: between New Zealand and the Cooks is officially over. Winston

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Speaker 2: Peter's in the Prime Minister of the Cooks have signed

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Speaker 2: a new Defense and Security Declaration which is more comprehensive

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Speaker 2: than the last one. It makes it clear that both

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Speaker 2: which is obviously what the spat was about in the

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Speaker 2: first place. Also means our funding to the Cooks will

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Speaker 2: start flowing again. Mark Brown is the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 2: the Cooks. Hi Mark Kurana, Heather, what made you decide

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Speaker 3: Again, Well, this is something that we've been working towards

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Speaker 2: So this has been going on since twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: We've always been open to discussions with the New Zealand government.

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Speaker 3: We've been engaging at officials level for the last year.

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Speaker 3: There have been some very complex issues around defense and

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Speaker 2: Now, this whole spat was about the fact that you

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Speaker 2: Do you still want to see a separate Cooks passport?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's off the table at the moment, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now listen. Obviously, big stuff going on in the world,

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Speaker 3: Yes, for us, it's security of fuel supply. At we're

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Speaker 2: If you were to run out, if it got to

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Speaker 3: Help you, or well, before we'd run out, we would

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Speaker 2: Now is the truth that Winston gave you a Warrior's jersey?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have to admit that I was gifted a

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Speaker 2: Why are you a Warriors fan?

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Speaker 3: I'm a die hard Warriors fan. Yes, I am, okay?

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Speaker 2: And who it sounded like it was personalized. What does

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Speaker 3: He's certainly put my name on the back of the jersey,

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Speaker 2: Mark, thank you very much, look after yourself. That's Mark Brown,

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Speaker 2: the Cook Islands Prime Minister. I think the Warriors we

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Speaker 2: Can we take this as a sign that the Warriors

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Speaker 2: At the moment, I'm just going to say that this

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Speaker 2: On Donald Trump and his speech, oil price has shot

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Speaker 2: that nobody thinks, having listened to him, that this thing

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Speaker 2: if he adds another two to three weeks from where

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Speaker 2: don't panic. So you just panicked people, mate, what are

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Speaker 2: you doing? Anyway? His whole message was basically, try to

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Speaker 2: Murray Olds will be with us.

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Speaker 4: On that suppose either, if you were like the leader

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Speaker 2: Everybody oh yeah, just so you could have it in

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Speaker 2: the COVID moments exactly.

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Speaker 4: It just kind of checked to everybody.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably do it too, have an icy stuff. Quarter

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Speaker 2: past four.

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Speaker 2: The World War Two was six years No, quite right.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have the same World War Two experience as America.

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Speaker 2: Ours was a lot longer. They came in towards the end.

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Speaker 2: So when he says it was three years and eight

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Speaker 2: the world stops at the American borders for a lot

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Speaker 2: of those people. Eighteen past four Darcy Sport.

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Speaker 6: Hello, greetings, headed a pless yellum?

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Speaker 2: All right, so the last game?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 2: The last game tonight?

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Speaker 6: Friday night?

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Speaker 2: Oh lord, I thought it was Friday already.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so that's as good as Friday.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's a good day, right, No one's working.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a bit, that's a bit something something not entirely.

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Speaker 6: Who are a to sell beer there? Have they changed?

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Speaker 6: It's been changed, It's done. I saw what you did there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, so there'll be a little bit

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Speaker 2: of like thanks very much for the time and a

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Speaker 2: hat tip to the stadium. But no one's going to

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Speaker 7: No, I think the visiting teams will be absolutely stoked.

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Speaker 7: But I get a feeling that with the lean to

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Speaker 7: that opposition team he hated going there really because it

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Speaker 7: was really uncomfortable. The sheds were awful, it was freezing cold,

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Speaker 7: they even and they had to play the Crusaders. No

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Speaker 7: one liked it, and at least a Crusada sit there. Gun,

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Speaker 7: we don't like coming here. We know that we're going

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Speaker 7: to it agree it will be missed.

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Speaker 2: Gave us a little competitive edge there.

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Speaker 8: It did.

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Speaker 7: It gave them a horrible advantage because it was such

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Speaker 7: Because the big thing is to think about that Liam's

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Speaker 6: He'll be built a career over a quarter of a century.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know everything. No one does.

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Speaker 1: The name you trumped to get the answers you need,

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Speaker 2: A strong suspicion barrier. So it's going to lose his

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Speaker 9: American involvement in World War One lasted one year, seven

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Speaker 1: Next five on your smart speaker, on the iHeart app

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Speaker 1: and in your car on your drive home, it's Heather

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Speaker 1: The World Wires on news Dogs. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: We have lift off.

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Speaker 10: Lessons, go for course stage Enginesta.

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Speaker 2: NASA's artemus iiO mission is on its way to the Moon.

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Speaker 8: Why do you want to be in here? Why do

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Speaker 9: I want to provide an update on the tremendous progress

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Speaker 9: Operation Epic Fury is necessary for the safety of America

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Speaker 9: I'm pleased to say that these core strategic objectives are

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Speaker 2: And finally, a woman who is campaigning to be the

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Speaker 2: the whole has now been filled.

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Speaker 1: In international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 2: Murray Old Ozzie corresponding with us, Hella.

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Speaker 12: Muzz Hello, had a very good afternoon, mate.

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Speaker 2: That was a bit of nothing last night, wasn't it.

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Speaker 12: A great, big nothing burger? As Donald Trump once said?

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Speaker 12: in the air. Your point is very valid. It's going

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Speaker 12: to get a hell of a lot tougher before it

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Speaker 12: gets better. And I don't think you need to be

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Speaker 12: a rocket science to work that out. But he is

444
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Speaker 12: certainly Look, he's spelled out what they've done, but warned

445
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Speaker 12: is more to be done. And don't blame us, please

446
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Speaker 12: blame someone else.

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Speaker 2: Now, the energy industry isn't very happy about the tax

448
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Speaker 2: situation is it.

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Speaker 12: Oh the frightened steff, Oh, the poor petals. They're making

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Speaker 12: billions and billions of dollars in extra profits by exporting

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Speaker 12: Australian gas to the rest of the world, and Australia's

452
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Speaker 12: got potentially a looming crisis this winter. We won't have

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Speaker 12: enough gas to power the East coast of Australia. Western

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Speaker 12: Australia about if I said twenty years ago, maybe a

455
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Speaker 12: little bit shorter than that, but around twenty years ago

456
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Speaker 12: the West Australian government said, you know what, you blokes

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Speaker 12: who were digging this out of the ground in our state,

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Speaker 12: you're going to have to reserve a certain amount. I

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Speaker 12: think it's twenty five percent must be reserved for the

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Speaker 12: citizens of Wa, right, so you can export seventy five percent.

461
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Speaker 12: The boneheads and Canberra and the other states never thought

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Speaker 12: to do that. And now, of course all this gas

463
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Speaker 12: is being exported around the world, very little tax is

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Speaker 12: being paid, according to the government, by these great, big

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Speaker 12: international companies, and the government's now saying, and it's relying

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Speaker 12: too on very very strong public opinion, these companies should

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Speaker 12: be paying more tax. The order of twenty five percent's

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Speaker 12: been floated well, I mean, it's like chicken little the

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Speaker 12: sky is going to fall there. No, no, it'll drive

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Speaker 12: away investment. Nobody will want to come here, will Hello, Yes,

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Speaker 12: they will because gas is plentiful. Part of the problem

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Speaker 12: over here is that successive government, state and federal have

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Speaker 12: been reluctant to dig it up out of the ground.

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Speaker 12: The Greens have been howling about wombats and the like.

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Speaker 12: The drillers are saying, we need more certainty about our profits.

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Speaker 12: All the government's saying, perhaps in light of your question

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Speaker 12: a moment ago, times are going to get tough. Well,

478
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Speaker 12: guess what, You're going to have to pay a fairer share,

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Speaker 12: and we do want some reserved this winter. And let's

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Speaker 12: see how that mop flops. Because the energy companies are

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Speaker 12: screaming bluebourdery.

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Speaker 2: All right, hey, male's look after yourself. Happy Easter to you, mate,

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate all your with you. Murray Old's Ossie corresponding

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Speaker 2: eighteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Here the do for c Allen.

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Speaker 2: Here's where Donald Trump blames the oil prices on a run,

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Speaker 2: not himself.

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Speaker 9: Many Americans have been concerned to see the recent rise

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Speaker 9: in gasoline prices here at home. This short term increase

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Speaker 9: has been entirely the result of the Iranian regime launching

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Speaker 9: deranged terror attacks against commercial oil tankers and neighboring countries

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Speaker 9: that have nothing to do with the conflict.

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Speaker 2: Doug hay On that the former Republican communications guy after

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Speaker 2: five o'clock, Now, anybody else think Audrey Young's newsletter was

495
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Speaker 2: a wee bit cheeky this morning? So yes, answers, thank you, Yes,

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Speaker 2: we both did. We both read it and thought, oof,

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Speaker 2: that's cheeky. So Audrey, I don't know if you read,

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Speaker 2: but the esteemed Audrey writes a piece for the Herald

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Speaker 2: every now and again, like a weekly newsletter, And let

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Speaker 2: me read you her little bit that she wrote. While

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Speaker 2: there have been a lot of comment around the corridors

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Speaker 2: of power about the weight loss of Nikola Willis, who

503
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Speaker 2: didn't have much to lose anyway, another cabinet minister has

504
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Speaker 2: shared twenty five kg's in the past year through heroic efforts.

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Speaker 2: Acts Minister Nicole McKee says that since March last year,

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Speaker 2: she has tried to walk between three k's and five

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Speaker 2: k's a day at pace to keep her daily sugar

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Speaker 2: intake to four grams. I bumped into her at lunchtime

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Speaker 2: yesterday after she had returned from her lunchtime walk, and

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Speaker 2: she agreed to share her achievement. I see what I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tell you what Audrey's done there. That's a

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Speaker 2: classic journalist trick. I hope Audrey's not going to be

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Speaker 2: angry with me for basically outing her for what she's done.

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Speaker 2: But what she's done is she's just she's taken the

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Speaker 2: Nicole Nicole McKee story, which is a legit little weight

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Speaker 2: loss story, and then she's popped it in there. But

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Speaker 2: she's got into it, which quick mentioned off Nichola Willis like, yep,

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Speaker 2: Nichola Willis looks slightly skeletal, and then carries on with

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Speaker 2: somebody else's story and then goes back and says she

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Speaker 2: agreed to share the story, as if to put pressure

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Speaker 2: on Nikola Willis to share her story. Now it's in print,

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Speaker 2: now it's okay to talk about it.

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Speaker 8: Apparently.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen away from five Politics with centrics credit, check your

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Speaker 1: customers and get payments.

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Speaker 2: Certainty governments announce they're putting twenty one million or thereabouts

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Speaker 2: into the old Marsden Point oil refinery to renovate some

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Speaker 2: of the storage there for diesel and whatnot. We'll have

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Speaker 2: a chat to Shane Jones about it after half past five.

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen away from five and Barry so Per, senior

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Speaker 2: political correspondence with US.

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Speaker 13: Hello, Barry, Good afternoon, Heather So.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's speech unfortunately was not the announcement that any

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Speaker 2: of us were expecting.

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Speaker 13: Exactly here we all were waiting thinking that maybe he'll

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Speaker 13: over go at NATO. He's basically told them to look

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Speaker 13: after the Strait themselves, which to me is tend them

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Speaker 13: out to admitting they haven't won.

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Speaker 6: But he would never admit that.

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Speaker 13: Of course, if you look at the opinion polls that

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Speaker 13: were taken today by CNN and the US found that

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Speaker 13: sixty seven percent of the US public believes the president

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Speaker 13: doesn't have a clear plan for handling the situation in Iran.

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Speaker 6: I think that's pretty obvious.

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Speaker 13: And the same poll found sixty six percent of the

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Speaker 13: Americans disapproved of the war. So not altogether surprising that

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Speaker 13: there was nothing new in the President's speech other than

548
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Speaker 13: slapping himself on the back. You'd have to say for

549
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Speaker 13: a job well done, with more to come.

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Speaker 9: I can say tonight that we are on track to

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Speaker 9: complete all of America's military objectives. Shortly, very shortly, we're

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Speaker 9: going to hit them extremely hard over the next two

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Speaker 9: to three weeks.

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Speaker 3: We're going to bring them back.

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Speaker 9: To the Stone Ages where they belong. So to those

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Speaker 9: countries that can't get fuel, many of which refuse to

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Speaker 9: get involved in the decapitation of Iran, we had to

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Speaker 9: do it ourselves. I have a suggestion. Number one, by

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Speaker 9: oil from the United States of America.

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Speaker 6: We have plenty, We have so much.

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Speaker 9: And number two, build up some delayed courage. Should have

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Speaker 9: done it before, should have done it with us as

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Speaker 9: we asked, go to the street and just take it.

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Speaker 13: Well, there you go. And they've got so much fuel,

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Speaker 13: fuel prices arising furiously in the United States. Now that

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Speaker 13: comes about when they've got.

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Speaker 6: So much fuel.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain something to me once again, I am

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Speaker 2: just going to change the subject. How is it that

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Speaker 2: Penny Simmons in the reshuffle gets promoted ahead of James Meager?

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Speaker 2: Explain that to me?

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Speaker 13: Well, no, I can't explain it, but I think you

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Speaker 13: know the thing with Penny Simmons, I suppose she was

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Speaker 13: something of a trailblazer in the tertiary education sector with

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Speaker 13: the in the Cargo Polytechnic, the south and Polytechnic. I

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Speaker 13: think it's called giving fees free and encouraging a lot

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Speaker 13: of people to come to Southland now. And when you

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Speaker 13: hear her speaking in the House, she's pretty on to

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Speaker 13: the subject that she's talking about. So I think what

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Speaker 13: Chris Luxen has done to step back look at this

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Speaker 13: and looked at Chris Bishop, of course, but looked at

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Speaker 13: the wider cabinet and like a business person does, looks

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Speaker 13: at the people that he sees are performing as a

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Speaker 13: CEO and a lot of people say it's disgraceful he's

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Speaker 13: more of the CEO than he is a Prime minister. Well,

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Speaker 13: I don't think it's a bad thing at the moment

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Speaker 13: that you've got a person well schooled in business doing

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Speaker 13: the job that he's doing. But if you look at

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Speaker 13: Chris Bishop, you know, losing the Leader of the House

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Speaker 13: that was as a busy job, but campaign chair which

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Speaker 13: is pretty significant to same and Brown the Golden Boy.

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Speaker 2: And then Associate Sport which is your fun one.

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Speaker 13: That's right, so there'll be some disappointment there. Although I've

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Speaker 13: got to say, if Chris Bishop was upset about losing

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Speaker 13: the Leader of the House role, along with being the

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Speaker 13: campaign chair. He wasn't showing it as he was being

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Speaker 13: questioned by the Green's Julia and Jenta about public transport

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Speaker 13: for those who are struggling with fuel bills.

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Speaker 11: The bus is coming every fifteen minutes. In smaller towns

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Speaker 11: like Danton, New Plymouth, Huang and Nui Levine, there will

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Speaker 11: be more demand for public transport and what will he

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Speaker 11: do to provide services?

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Speaker 14: Well, now, listen to the minister.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Who's the person answering this question.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that didn't need a bus.

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Speaker 10: Hey, mate, you've got to get the government honorable and

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Speaker 10: that won't be happening to you anytime soon.

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Speaker 13: I thought it was a good comeback. I mean they

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Speaker 13: were taking the old proverbial out of Bishop and he

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Speaker 13: came back pretty well. Yeah, he's the sort of guy

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Speaker 13: that's not going to publicly admit that. You know, it's

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Speaker 13: been a tough day for him.

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Speaker 2: No, listen, very quickly, can you just run me through

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Speaker 2: what happened with David Seymour and Labor.

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Speaker 13: Well, essentially, there was a debate in the House this

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Speaker 13: afternoon and David Seymour was doing what he likes to

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Speaker 13: do best, acting as the Prime minister during question time

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Speaker 13: and getting patsy questions from his own MPs. Well, he

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Speaker 13: was answering the patty questions when in fact he looked

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Speaker 13: at the opposition. He got an interjection from Damian O'Connor.

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Speaker 13: He called him a communist. So, yeah, that was a

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Speaker 13: bit on the nose. Barbara Krueger, who was sitting in

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Speaker 13: for Jerry Browne today, she said, it's out of order.

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Speaker 13: He had to withdraw. But you know, it's pretty lively

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Speaker 13: in the house at the moment.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Bary So, Senior political correspondent, eight away

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Speaker 2: from five.

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Speaker 1: Start the day, it's a team. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 5: Quick question?

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Speaker 15: Did you buy the mini?

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Speaker 6: Good question, Tim.

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Speaker 16: The more pertinent question would be after she said we

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Speaker 16: were going to buy the mini, what happened when I

636
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Speaker 16: went home? Would that be the question you need like

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Speaker 16: to ask me, Mike, After.

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Speaker 15: She said that she would buy the mini, what happened

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Speaker 15: when you got home?

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Speaker 16: Very good question, till I'm glad you asked that. The

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Speaker 16: answer was, that's not happening. I regret saying that, and

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Speaker 16: that's the last we will.

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Speaker 1: Ever talk of it.

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Speaker 15: That's not true because the mini garage could get in

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Speaker 15: touch with me.

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Speaker 2: She was like, Hey, I'm not ruling it out.

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Speaker 16: This is like the US n arralment at the moment,

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Speaker 16: isn't it we're talking about we're not.

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Speaker 1: Yes we are, No, we're not.

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Speaker 6: Is the rooman you know, there's not.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it could be, No, there's not.

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Speaker 16: Back Tuesday from six am, the Mike asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 16: a Vida News Talk z B.

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Speaker 2: Here the Simeon is an Auckland MP. That's where the

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Speaker 2: Nats need to win to be returned, and that's why

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Speaker 2: he got the job. Yes, it probably is, actually are.

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Speaker 2: And he's also golden balls, right, he's really good. He's

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Speaker 2: really good at all the stuff he does. Listen, two

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Speaker 2: things out of the reshuffle that I think are important.

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Speaker 2: So Simon Brown takes the energy portfolio from Simon Watts.

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Speaker 2: Now that tells me that the Nats are worried about energy,

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Speaker 2: as they should be because it is a big problem

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Speaker 2: and they always give golden balls the tough jobs that

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Speaker 2: need to be sorted out. And why they're worried about

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Speaker 2: energy is a the electricity prices going up, be the

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Speaker 2: fact that New Zealand is running out of gas at

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Speaker 2: a rate faster than we thought, and see New Zealand

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Speaker 2: First is going to go hard on it and at

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Speaker 2: the election and try to cut their lunch. Also, as

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Speaker 2: I said earlier, talk about Simmey and Brown getting the

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Speaker 2: campaign chair, I think it's a really good call. I

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Speaker 2: think part of National's problem has been that it flip flopped.

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Speaker 2: It's been flip flopping quite a lot, right, and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to have like a hard position on a

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Speaker 2: lot of things, and it feels a little bit like

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Speaker 2: one minute, that's a Blue National Party, Nick minute, it's

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Speaker 2: a red Labor party, and you can't kind of figure

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Speaker 2: out where they are. And part of that is because

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Speaker 2: I think that the top three guys in National being

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Speaker 2: Chris Luxe and Chris Bishop and Nikola Willis. Honestly, if

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Speaker 2: you took them out of National and pop them in Labor,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't be that big. Like I think they would

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Speaker 2: be okay over there. They'd be a bit right, but

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Speaker 2: they're a bit left of National, do you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. That's a sort of comfortably sitting both of them.

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Speaker 2: That's not the same for Simmy and Brown. He's a

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Speaker 2: proper conservative, so I suspect he's going to harden the

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Speaker 2: National Party's campaign up a little. We'll see it's also

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Speaker 2: downsides with that if you're trying to win the labor

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Speaker 2: vote over But anyway, I'll figure it out themselves. Doug Haye,

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Speaker 2: former Republican communications director, is going to be with us

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Speaker 2: next on Donald Trump and his quite frankly disappointing speech,

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Speaker 2: and then after that we'll talk about the home care

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Speaker 2: as getting their fuel mileage boost.

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Speaker 17: Newstalks, edb Homa, Game fdaus psalms in hell to pray

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Speaker 17: for me Hiyu Chair She's gone Agay Chirs Si Sime.

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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duper Clan Drive with one New Zealand coverage like no

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Speaker 1: one else news DOORGSB Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Trump's speech, scheduled for two pm our time, turned out

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Speaker 2: to contain no announcements at all. Disappointingly, we got no

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Speaker 2: firm end date, no clue about what the buildup of

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Speaker 2: troops in the region is for, no plan to reopen

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Speaker 2: the strait of him as just the usual bluster.

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Speaker 9: I can say tonight that we are on track to

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Speaker 9: complete all of America's military objectives shortly, very shortly. We're

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Speaker 9: going to hit them extremely hard over the next two

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Speaker 9: to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to

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Speaker 9: the Stone ages where they belong.

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Speaker 2: Doug Hay is a form of communications director for the

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Speaker 2: Republican Party. Doug, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 8: It's great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you now.

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Speaker 2: Without an actional announcement, this is just payaf for American voters,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's something I'm still not sure. And the question

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Speaker 8: I ask is why give this speech tonight? And I

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Speaker 8: say that because he had the opportunity a few weeks

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Speaker 8: back to address the nation and to answer a lot

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Speaker 8: of the questions that voters had on that that was

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Speaker 8: the State of the Union, the biggest speech any president

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Speaker 8: gives any year, and he didn't do so. And in

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Speaker 8: tonight's speech there was no news. So without telling people

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Speaker 8: that we've actually won this thing, we were told we're

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Speaker 8: getting close. Maybe there's an an escalation coming. Gas prices

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Speaker 8: might come down soon, might not. It's not clear to

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Speaker 8: me why they made the decision to make this speech

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Speaker 8: and to make it tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just assumed that the clue lay in the

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Speaker 2: fact that he went through all the various wars that

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Speaker 2: he was comparing this war to in the durations in

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Speaker 2: a bit to show that this was a really quick

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Speaker 2: war actually by contrast. And is that not a sign

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Speaker 2: that the narrative, the prevailing narrative that he's losing and

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Speaker 2: this is dragging is getting to him, and he's trying

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Speaker 2: to go over the top of the legacy media and

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Speaker 2: talk directly to the base.

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Speaker 8: Well, more than anything, the issue of gas prices is

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Speaker 8: what is spooking this White House because it's something that

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Speaker 8: they're hearing from Republican members of Congress almost every day.

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Speaker 8: And then you have the issue with his base specifically

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Speaker 8: about foreign intervention. And I can tell you I was

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Speaker 8: in Israel in June last summer when the bombing started,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of that very hardcore Magabae, not the

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Speaker 8: people who've voted for Trump necessarily, but the people who

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Speaker 8: voted for Trump and wear a red hat out in public.

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Speaker 8: A lot of them didn't really like that. So they

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Speaker 8: don't like this. They didn't necessarily like Venezuela. They may

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Speaker 8: have concerns about Cuba because these are the things that

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump ran on not doing.

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Speaker 2: So if you listen to his language about really smashing

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Speaker 2: Iran about it going for two to three weeks, threatening

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Speaker 2: various targets. What do you read into that? Is he

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Speaker 2: about to escalate things?

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Speaker 8: He wants to draw this to a close, and so

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Speaker 8: clearly he feels that the best way potentially to do

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Speaker 8: that is by an escalation. And the interesting to me

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Speaker 8: is it's not cutting a deal. We've been told forever

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Speaker 8: the art of the deal. Donald Trump's the great deal maker.

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Speaker 8: It's another example of where he's really not tried to

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Speaker 8: do so unless the deal is you're going to get

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Speaker 8: everything you want, and very clearly Iran doesn't want to

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Speaker 8: do that. And so how this ends at this point,

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Speaker 8: I don't think we know. And again he didn't declare victory,

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Speaker 8: just that we're winning.

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Speaker 2: He's given himself something of an off ramp as well,

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Speaker 2: hasn't he because he has said, we never wanted regime change.

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Speaker 2: So the regime has already changed in any case because

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Speaker 2: the really bad radical guys are gone. So he can

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Speaker 2: almost if we want, like he is not bound now,

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Speaker 2: is he by the need to see a complete change

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Speaker 2: in who's running around?

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Speaker 8: Well, he's never been bound by that. But it's part

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Speaker 8: of I think the challenge that he finds himself with

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Speaker 8: that really hardcore part of his base. So forget every

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Speaker 8: Democratic member of Congress or senator and even some of

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Speaker 8: the Republicans. It's those members who really were against any

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Speaker 8: sort of foreign intervention and we would hear the phrase

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Speaker 8: forever wars and you know, international adventurism, things like that.

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Speaker 8: He's very nervous that they're unhappy again. What happened with

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Speaker 8: Iran in Israel last summer was pretty quick, a lot

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Speaker 8: faster than this has been, and those same people didn't.

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Speaker 2: Like that then, Doug, thank you very much, Really appreciate

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Speaker 2: your analysis. Doug Hay, former communications director for the Republican Party.

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Speaker 1: Together do for c Ellen homes were worth.

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Speaker 2: Has getting the help to pay for fuel that they've

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Speaker 2: been asking for. The governments announced a temporary increase in

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Speaker 2: their mileage rates of thirty percent. Home Care and Health

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Speaker 2: Association chief executive Lisa Foster joins us. Now, high Lisa

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Speaker 2: you doing, I'm very well, thank you. Do we know

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Speaker 2: how long temporary is?

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Speaker 18: We dawned for sure. We've got some idea that it's

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Speaker 18: there's a three month review and then there's some sort

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Speaker 18: of caveats around certain criteria that have to be met.

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Speaker 18: So it's three dollars red for lasting for more than

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Speaker 18: I think it's four weeks or a year, one year.

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Speaker 18: So at the moment that's still up in the air.

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Speaker 18: We're still trying to clarify some of those sort of.

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Speaker 2: Logistics increase which has gone from it's gone from sixty

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Speaker 2: three and a half cents to eighty two and a

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Speaker 2: half cents. Okay, will that cover the bills?

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Speaker 18: It's certainly the right move forward for us, and it

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Speaker 18: was what we were calling for. We were getting increasingly

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Speaker 18: stressed and worried from the CAAFENA, from the workforce, but

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Speaker 18: also from our members and employers just around the challenge

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Speaker 18: for Easter, when people need care in their home, you know, urgent, essential,

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Speaker 18: critical care, and we basically may not be able to

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Speaker 18: deliver that. So this is a fantastic it'll come in

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Speaker 18: that sense. However, to put it into context, you know,

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Speaker 18: it's twenty fourteen, so twelve years ago there was ABT,

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Speaker 18: which is in between travel framework that was really the

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Speaker 18: rates that were set in the past with the union

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Speaker 18: and the employers and the government. But twelve years later

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Speaker 18: was still in a position where the same reate that

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Speaker 18: was set in legislation, which was fifty cent is still

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Speaker 18: the same. We had a couple of ree that took

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Speaker 18: it to sixty three point five percentage wise, that's like

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Speaker 18: a twenty seven percent increase versus IID sixty three percent increase.

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Speaker 18: So we're just always playing catch up. And I think

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Speaker 18: you know, we were hoping for something that we can

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Speaker 18: have a mechanism, a review that will be more realistic,

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Speaker 18: sustainable solution longer term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, LEAs the best of luck with that

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Speaker 2: and thanks for your time. At Lisa Foster Home Care

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Speaker 2: and Health Association Chief Executive Heather I love this because

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Speaker 2: I hate being sold stuff that doesn't work. If you

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Speaker 2: have bought a cold and flu medication in the last

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Speaker 2: two decades and thought that didn't really help that much,

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Speaker 2: you might now be able to sue the companies for

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Speaker 2: selling it snake oil. Basically, this could become the country's

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Speaker 2: biggest class action lawsuit. So the lawsuit is being brought

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Speaker 2: by JGA Sadler, who do this. This is their thing.

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Speaker 2: This is the speciality of the old class actions, and

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Speaker 2: they're taking the companies. They're taking it against companies owned

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Speaker 2: by Johnson and Johnson and Kenview, and it is some

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Speaker 2: of the brands that are marketed under cold Drill, pseudo fed,

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Speaker 2: and Benadryl. And if you bought it between two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five and February twenty twenty five, you are in luck.

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Speaker 2: You might be able to join it. You don't even

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Speaker 2: need proof of purchase. The claim is they manufactured and

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Speaker 2: distributed oral cold and flu products containing a decongestant fenilephrine

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Speaker 2: that did not work to relieve symptoms of nasal nasal congestion,

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Speaker 2: despite being marketed as doing so. Quarter pasted, jez, I

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Speaker 2: tell you what. BYD's on a roll at the moment' day.

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Speaker 2: In just the past week, they have had more than

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Speaker 2: seven hundred new car orders. Now seven hundred in a

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Speaker 2: single week is staggering. And if anyone needed more proof,

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Speaker 2: Consumer has just named BYD the most trusted car brand

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. And that kind of recognition is

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Speaker 2: not just accidental, that has earned. But listen, let me

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Speaker 2: tell you about what I've been driving lately, which is

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Speaker 2: the BYDC Line five. Now this is the one they

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Speaker 2: dropped around for me to try last year last week,

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Speaker 2: so it's a mid size suve. It's but like RAD

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00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: four perfect sweet spot in terms of size. I loaded

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Speaker 2: it up this morning to go away for Easter because

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Speaker 2: it's electric, right, so it doesn't cost a lot to

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Speaker 2: take away for Easter. Here's where it gets crazy, by

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Speaker 2: the way, everything fitted in so heaps more space than

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Speaker 2: you think it's gonna have, which is always the case

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Speaker 2: with BYD. Here's where it gets crazy. It's electric and

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Speaker 2: it's hybrid hybrid, so you can do up to one

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Speaker 2: hundred k's purely electric, and then when you mix it

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Speaker 2: with the hybrid mode you're looking at over one thousand

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Speaker 2: k's of range. You can plug it in and save,

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Speaker 2: but you don't have to. You can just drive it

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Speaker 2: like an old school hybrid as well. No range anxiety,

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Speaker 2: no living at the petrol pump. BYD has got a

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Speaker 2: vehicle for everyone. I'm learning. Go and check them out seriously,

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Speaker 2: free yourself from the pump at BYD Auto dot co

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Speaker 2: dot MZ Heather duplus e LA nineteen past five. Now

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Speaker 2: we've obviously had a successful lift off. Artemus two launched

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Speaker 2: this morning in the first man trip to the Moon

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Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy two. Mark Rocket is the founder of

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Speaker 2: Kia Aerospace. In the first ki we whoever went to

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Speaker 2: space and is with us Elo markh. Now, we're not

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Speaker 2: going to land on the Moon. Well I say we,

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Speaker 2: I mean us humans. The humans are not going to

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Speaker 2: land on the Moon. They're just going to do a

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Speaker 2: fly by. What's the value in that?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well they've got to get things prepared. Just like

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Speaker 19: the Apollo program, there was a bunch of Apolo missions

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Speaker 19: before they actually landed on the Moon, or with a

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Speaker 19: Polo eleven, and yeah, this time they're doing a couple

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Speaker 19: of basically missions where they are doing stuff in orbit

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Speaker 19: and doing a orbit around the Moon, and then they

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Speaker 19: will be landing on the Moon, hopefully by the end

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Speaker 19: of this decade.

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Speaker 2: So what is it that they're doing up there in

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Speaker 2: order to make the landing possible.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well there's a lot of work that needs to

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Speaker 19: be done on the whole new rocket launch system and

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Speaker 19: they've got a new Orion capsule. So yeah, basically there's

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Speaker 19: a whole new system's a whole lot of new hardware.

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Speaker 19: And if you look back, it's over fifty years, as

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Speaker 19: you said, nineteen seventy two December since someone was actually

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Speaker 19: last on the Moon, so it's been a long time

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Speaker 19: and they basically had to rebuild the whole program.

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Speaker 2: Oh so if you've let that much time go by,

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Speaker 2: you basically have to start from scratch, do.

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Speaker 19: You well, I mean there's certainly some core lessons that

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Speaker 19: they've learned along the way, but you know, we're now

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Speaker 19: in the sort of digital age, and there's a whole

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Speaker 19: lot of new technologies, a whole lot of new materials.

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Speaker 19: We've made a lot of improvements in the aerosipace sector,

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Speaker 19: so yeah, I think they've really benefited from that and

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Speaker 19: made the rockets a lot more safe, a lot more reliable.

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Speaker 19: But it was a pretty gutsy move back in the

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Speaker 19: sixties when they did the first Moon program. It was

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Speaker 19: pretty basic technology that they had then, and what they

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Speaker 19: achieved was remarkable. But yeah, here we are fifty years

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Speaker 19: on and we can certainly improve with the latest technologies

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Speaker 19: we have at our disposal.

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Speaker 2: Now, do you think that we will actually get this

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Speaker 2: moon base that people are talking about?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well, there's a lot going on in the world

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Speaker 19: at the moment, but yeah, I think that is the plan.

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Speaker 19: So there's obviously a few more Artemis missions and then

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Speaker 19: we're going to be doing the actual Moon landing.

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Speaker 20: Ultimately.

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Speaker 3: There are plans from America to do a moon base.

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Speaker 19: China is also doing moon missions, so there does seem

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Speaker 19: to be renewed interest from at least a couple of

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Speaker 19: countries to get back on the Moon. And you know

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Speaker 19: that it really opens up the solar systems once you

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Speaker 19: actually get to the Moon, if you've got a base there,

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Speaker 19: if you can actually get energy sources from the Moon,

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Speaker 19: then that will open up Mars and other places around

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Speaker 19: the Solar system.

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Speaker 2: I see, hey, Mark, thank you very much, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Mark Rockett, who's obviously quite into the old rockets. By

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Speaker 2: the way, it's what is called this time is that

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Speaker 2: the astronauts don't have to poop in bags, because that

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Speaker 2: has unfortunately been one of the major downsides of becoming

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Speaker 2: an astronaut. This time they've got themselves a proper toilet

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Speaker 2: with the door. So yeah, that's cool for their mate

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Speaker 2: five two cutting through.

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Speaker 1: The noise to get the facts. It's Heather duplicl and

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand coverage life. No one else

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Speaker 1: news talks. They'd be lol.

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Speaker 2: Heathery got to get that Hollywood basement ready to film

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Speaker 2: the Moon mission. Oh Lord, come dad, We'll come on, Lord,

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Speaker 2: We'll come back to it in a minute five twenty five. Now,

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Speaker 2: I have to say I admire Andrew Little and his

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Speaker 2: commitment to his principles, and in particular his principle of

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Speaker 2: saving money for Wellingtonians, which he is so committed to

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Speaker 2: that he will not force a redesign of the layout

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Speaker 2: of the new council building like he should. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you've been following this, but this saga

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Speaker 2: about the new council offices on the waterfront in Wellington

951
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Speaker 2: is actually outrageous. What's happened is the unelected council stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, the people, the clipboard warriors that work at

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Speaker 2: Wellington City Council. They've designed the building so that they

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Speaker 2: have the top floors with the harbor views, while the

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Speaker 2: mayor and the councilors who are actually voted in by

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Speaker 2: the people of Wellington have the bottom floor and the

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Speaker 2: mayor apparently has a view of a car park. Now,

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Speaker 2: these guys are so furious about this, quite rightly, that

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Speaker 2: eleven of the sixteen councilors didn't turn up to the

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Speaker 2: blessing of the building this week. Now, in in case

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Speaker 2: you mistakenly think this is petty, it's not. The mayor

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Speaker 2: is the elected leader of the city, not the council staffers.

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Speaker 2: He's the one who hosts the dignitaries in his office,

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Speaker 2: where instead of impressing with views of a beautiful city

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Speaker 2: on a sunny day, he's going to treat the dignitaries

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Speaker 2: to a view of the selection of the motor vehicles

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Speaker 2: being driven in the capital city that day. What's actually

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Speaker 2: more important here, though, is that this is symbolic of

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Speaker 2: what is going on in this city. The unelected officials

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Speaker 2: there have been conducting themselves like this for years, acting

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Speaker 2: as if they are the boss, as if they have

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Speaker 2: the final say when they don't. They have refused to

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Speaker 2: allow elected members to read documents, they have hidden information

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Speaker 2: from councilors. They seem to genuinely think that they are

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Speaker 2: in charge and deserve the top floors. Now, frankly, I

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Speaker 2: think that Andrew Little should demand a redesign, Otherwise the

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Speaker 2: idea that the unelected officials are actually in chargea will

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Speaker 2: embed over the next two to three decades that they

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Speaker 2: use that layout. He doesn't want to because of the cost,

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Speaker 2: but frankly, I think is a cost worth bearing.

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Speaker 1: Forgevin to c Ellen Hither, I love how.

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Speaker 2: These people that you interview. Believe that they went to

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Speaker 2: the moon years ago. What a lot of load of dribble.

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Speaker 2: Hither they have to do it all from scratch because

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Speaker 2: they never went to the Moon in the first place.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what.

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Speaker 2: I cannot tell you the number of people who genuinely

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Speaker 2: believe this. I've had to say, I've had to endure

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Speaker 2: countless conversations from the moonlanding conspiracy theorists, and will I just.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All I would say to the moon landing conspiracy theorists

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Speaker 2: is don't laugh at us derisively like you do, because

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Speaker 2: we're not laughing at you. We're being polite and just

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Speaker 2: listening to you. So yeah, because I heard them giggling

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Speaker 2: at me when I said, oh, you know, we landed,

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Speaker 2: I heard them. It's rude anyway. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: government announced I told you today that the government is

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Speaker 2: putting twenty one million dollars into helping Channel Infrastructure renovate

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Speaker 2: its fuel storage, which surprised me because the boss of

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Speaker 2: Channel Infrastructure was on with Mike Hosking this week and

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Speaker 2: said he didn't need government money.

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Speaker 15: We would absolutely fund that ourselves.

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Speaker 4: I think the key issue is that we would need

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Speaker 4: a customer for those tanks at the end of it.

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Speaker 2: So what happened. We'll talk to Shane Jones next.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful season, hard questions, strong opinion, Heather Duplicy Ellen

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Speaker 1: drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite

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Speaker 1: mobile news talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 2: There is that same attitude that was very much alive

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Speaker 2: and well in the Auckland Council during the long weekend

1011
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Speaker 2: floods when the staff withheld crucial information from Wayne Brown. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it happens all up and down this country. They think, oh,

1013
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: here they come, the elected ones. Let's take the top floor. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Chris Quinn from food Stuff is going to be with

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Speaker 2: us after six o'clock after we asked him to have

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Speaker 2: a chat after we chatted to Nicola Willison. If you

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Speaker 2: don't know what I'm talking about, I'll run you through

1018
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Speaker 2: it before six. Also, Thomas Coglan of The Herald has

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Speaker 2: just printed a piece which seems to answer the question

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Speaker 2: about the curious meeting that happened at the Prime Minister's

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Speaker 2: house on Sunday night. I'll give you that before six.

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Speaker 2: Stand by, it's twenty four away from sex. Now let's

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Speaker 2: deal with what's going on with Marsden Point. The government

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Speaker 2: is giving the new Marsden Point owners twenty one million

1025
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Speaker 2: bucks to build more diesel storage channel infrastructure says it

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Speaker 2: can add another ninety million liters of this capacity within

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Speaker 2: two months. And Jane Jones is the Associated Minister for Energy,

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Speaker 2: who's with us.

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Speaker 5: High Shane good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: How much storage is This is about eight days?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 21: Yes, it's diesel, so it's about twelve letters a day

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Speaker 21: we chew through, so eight twelves, nine twelves, it's about

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Speaker 21: ninety million letters. We are we've entered into a financial arrangement.

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Speaker 5: It's certainly not a subsidy or a gift.

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Speaker 21: We're essentially going to get them to spend their own

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Speaker 21: money and then secure access to the storage capacity for

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Speaker 21: as long as we need it by way of an

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Speaker 21: access fee, and then as time moves forward, probably shovel

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Speaker 21: it on to the fuel companies.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So the twenty one million dollars is not

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Speaker 2: to pay for the renovation. It's an access fee.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, they're doing it. Yeah, they're doing it themselves.

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Speaker 21: However, they want the confidence that in the event that

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Speaker 21: we are able with the fuel companies or other parties

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Speaker 21: to bring greater amounts of diesel into the country, which

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Speaker 21: Lord knows we're going to need. Then there's somewhere to

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Speaker 21: store it, as opposed to having a floating terminal like

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Speaker 21: a ship bobbing around on the tide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so the twenty one million dollars, would that

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Speaker 2: be comparable to the rates that they paid for all

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Speaker 2: the other stories.

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Speaker 5: That they have.

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Speaker 21: We are unlikely to use the entirety of that money.

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Speaker 21: And basically they've promised and that the contract will reflect

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Speaker 21: that through some KPIs to get the thing damn thing

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Speaker 21: done by the end of May or within spitting distance,

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Speaker 21: and then hopefully we will, like the Aussies, have secured

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Speaker 21: some additional fuel, then it will.

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Speaker 5: Have somewhere to put it.

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Speaker 21: I'm confident that they know how quickly and robustly they

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Speaker 21: can recommission it, because these things already standing idly after

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Speaker 21: labor closed down the refinery.

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Speaker 2: Now is eight days enough because aren't you trying to

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Speaker 2: get forty days worth of fuel freed up?

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Speaker 15: Yes, so.

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Speaker 21: We're meant to have well, will we have twenty We

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Speaker 21: have a limit of twenty one days. It's going to

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Speaker 21: move up to twenty eight days for diesel and you

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Speaker 21: either store it on a floating terminal which is otherwise

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Speaker 21: known as a ship, or you store it in some

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Speaker 21: physical storage capacity. And I think the big lesson coming

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Speaker 21: out of this is that kiwis have to be willing

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Speaker 21: to enable us, either to the fuel companies or with

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Speaker 21: the fuel companies to store more fuel in New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: Because there're seven hundred million liters.

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Speaker 2: I'm asking basically if we still need a ship as well?

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 21: We may very well need that, but of course there's

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Speaker 21: a maddening rush as Asian nations seek to shore up

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Speaker 21: their supplies, and the Aussies have said that they're going

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Speaker 21: to either underwrite or subsidize the arrival of additional amounts

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Speaker 21: of fuel for their country.

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Speaker 5: So we've got no worry. We've got experts working on

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Speaker 5: it as we speak.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now why I laughed before when you had a

1087
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Speaker 2: crack at labor is that Audrey Young. Have you read

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Speaker 2: her newsletter today?

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Speaker 5: No, sadly I haven't.

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Speaker 2: She says you've got labor derangement syndrome and you're more

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Speaker 2: interested in making personal attacks in a house than getting

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Speaker 2: oil into the country.

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Speaker 21: Look, Audrey, with her seniority, should know this is an

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Speaker 21: election year and I'm not going to let just Cinda,

1095
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 21: that political refugee from electoral justice, and Megan Woods get

1096
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 21: off scot free.

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Speaker 5: And I don't care if it.

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00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 21: Offends the sensibilities of the press gallery. The reality is

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00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 21: a cabinet paper enabled labor to intervene and stop the

1100
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 21: closure of the refinery. They made an active decision to

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00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 21: do the opposite. I think news Elder should regard me

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00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 21: as a patriot for constantly reminding me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hey, did you watch Elbow's speech last night out

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00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: of Australia.

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00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 5: I thought during the course of today, Yeah, it was was.

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00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: He doing, Shane, what's that speech about? Because it looked

1107
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: like a nothing burger.

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Speaker 20: Hm.

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00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 21: Maybe he's warning his own people that things are going

1110
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 21: to get really tight because the huge users of fuel,

1111
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 21: they're monstrous uses of resources as they seek to keep

1112
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 21: their minding sector AFLAT. But it would be very offensive,

1113
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 21: if not harmful me, harmful for me personally, if I

1114
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 21: was to comment in any other way about the leader

1115
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 21: of another country.

1116
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 2: The reason I'm asking you is because the thought occurred

1117
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: to me today that we might be in a kind

1118
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 2: of false calm at the moment where we think that everything,

1119
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: and I'm just talking about normal punters like myself, not

1120
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: you guys who know everything, but that we're in some

1121
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: sort of false calm and we don't realize how bad

1122
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: this is going to get. What do you think is

1123
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: that what's going on?

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00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 21: Well, we're basing our approach on the best quality of

1125
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 21: information that we're getting from the fuel important companies. However,

1126
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 21: people should be confident that we're acting in a proactive fashion. Look,

1127
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 21: it's a decision and it's a matter of political judgment

1128
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 21: for the leader of any country how they stand and

1129
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 21: articulate what lies ahead of us. We've taken a more

1130
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 21: steadfast and arguably judicious approach, and he's warned his fellow

1131
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 21: Aussies that it could get a lot worse for them

1132
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 21: than it currently is.

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Speaker 2: Shane has always really appreciate your time, mate, You look

1134
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: after yourself. As Shane Jones, Associate Minister for Energy, nineteen

1135
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: away from six.

1136
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only

1137
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: truly global brand on.

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Speaker 2: The huddle of this this evening, we have got Tim Wilson, maximumstitudent,

1139
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: Oscar Kitely, artist of course and local government politician in Auckland.

1140
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: Hell are you two? Do you worry that we are

1141
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: in a kind of false calm and that we don't

1142
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: know what's coming?

1143
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 5: Sorry?

1144
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 15: Was that for me?

1145
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was for you. Did you watch how those things?

1146
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: Yes today?

1147
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: Because elbows th id I didn't.

1148
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: It was bloody weird him like he said, nothing.

1149
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 15: Weird as the Trump's speech.

1150
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: It mate, it was arguably weirder because at least Trump's

1151
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 2: speech was weird, but at least he's the guy in

1152
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 2: the wall. But basically got everybody together to say.

1153
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 15: Listen, yeah, can you keep doing that voice for the

1154
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 15: rest of the segments.

1155
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: Have an nice easter, maybe think about public transport and yeah,

1156
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: it's going to get real vulable at some stage. That's

1157
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: basically what he said.

1158
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, look, I think my understanding of the situation is

1159
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 15: that we are probably in a better position than Australia,

1160
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 15: as Shane the polysyllabic Shane Jones was alluding to, Australia

1161
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 15: has a huge consumption of petrol, our consumptions, lie, we

1162
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 15: still got the fifty two days. Maybe maybe when we

1163
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 15: look across the tasm, it does feel like it's like,

1164
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 15: why why aren't we freaking out? Like the Aussies. But

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00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 15: I think we've become a bit addicted to fear as

1166
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 15: well in these times. So it's like, oh, we should

1167
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 15: be freaking out. Shouldn't we be freaking out? Let's freak out.

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not, yeah, because I think we will remember

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00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: the last time that we probably didn't freak out.

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00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 15: Yeah, the start didn't.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Oscar.

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Speaker 22: Well, I just I mean, I I guess we're at

1173
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 22: the end of the supply chain and we're not freaking out.

1174
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 22: But my worry is that the country is further up

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00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 22: the wholesalers who provide us with the fuel, that they

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00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 22: are freaking out and they are already taking messages. So

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Speaker 22: it just looks weird that they're already doing stuff actively

1178
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 22: because they don't know what's going to happen in the future,

1179
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 22: and were still kind of keep calm and carrying on.

1180
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Speaker 22: That feels a bit odd to me.

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00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is what I think is maybe he's

1182
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Speaker 2: a false comp Now, the Donald Trump speech that was

1183
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: a bit of nothing, wasn't it, Tim.

1184
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 15: Well, apparently it was. He said nothing that he hadn't

1185
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 15: said in the Wall Street Journal yesterday. So if you

1186
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 15: want to know what Trump's going to say today, just

1187
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 15: read the Wall Street Journal yesterday. I think the measure

1188
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Speaker 15: of that and you're you're that Republican Comm's guru that

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 15: you had on after five. I think he sounded a

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Speaker 15: bit He's like, I don't know who that was directed

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Speaker 15: to in some way. And so but here's what I

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 15: thought was really interesting was that oil prices spiked during

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 15: the speech, and the S and P plummeted. So whatever

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Speaker 15: he was being to achieve, which is a kind of

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00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 15: stabilization in somewhere, you know, we sort of look like

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Speaker 15: we're winning. I don't think it happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And in fact, Brent has gone up even more,

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Speaker 2: it's now up six point four percent. What did you

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Speaker 2: take out of it, Oscar? Was there anything that stuck

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Speaker 2: with you out of the speech as being like, oh, that's.

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Speaker 12: All you know.

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Speaker 22: At normal times with a normal leader, obviously the words

1203
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 22: of the US president are quite consequential, but I feel

1204
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 22: like his style is so full of bluster and psychotic

1205
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 22: that it's almost like we can't take It's almost like

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Speaker 22: the markets take more mords of what the Iranians say

1207
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 22: in terms of what's happening with the war, rather than

1208
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 22: what he's saying because it feels like he's game in

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00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 22: the markets a lot of the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what they as his thing is.

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Speaker 15: He's a New York property guy, right, so this is

1212
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 15: basically you know, oh no, this is an empty lot

1213
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 15: with sewage problems. Look at this beautiful imagine this beautiful building.

1214
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 15: Here's that's just his mode, and you would expect the

1215
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 15: market to function that in. But I think probably he's

1216
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 15: just become a bit more I don't know, uncertain and

1217
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 15: has delivered I don't know if you guys have sent

1218
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 15: that gets a bit more connected, very bit more off.

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Speaker 2: Barry made a really good point actually, because Barry Barry

1220
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: has TDS, so he really focuses a lot on Trump.

1221
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: And he pointed out that in his speech Donald Trump

1222
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: was doing the double inhale, as in like, oh, you

1223
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: know when you do that when you're Yeah, he was

1224
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: doing that, so maybe yeah, he was a bit stressed out. Alright,

1225
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: we'll take a break, come back to you guys, and

1226
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: just to take quarter.

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Speaker 1: Two the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty a

1228
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: name you can trust locally and globally.

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00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, the abolition of the greyhound racing.

1230
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: That bill has passed, So that's the end of that

1231
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Speaker 2: twelve away from six and you back with the huddle, Oscar,

1232
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Speaker 2: what is your read of the reshuffle today?

1233
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was.

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00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 22: Interesting six months before an election. I feel like Chris

1235
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 22: Bishop has paid the price for everybody saying that he's

1236
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 22: a possible leader being shunned to aside. I know he's

1237
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 22: saying all the nice things, but I also feel like

1238
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 22: I feel like he's given Chris pinker head up and

1239
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 22: I think he will probably appear as a possible leader thing.

1240
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 22: I mean, I guess the move was designed to energize

1241
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 22: national voters, but he didn't do the one thing that

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 22: would have really energized them because he's still in the cabinet.

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, and I'm just I'm not sure whether he's

1244
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 22: he's gone far enough to be honest. But also I

1245
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 22: did like that we had an energy minister called Watts

1246
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 22: and I will miss that.

1247
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will all miss that little that little thing.

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Speaker 2: Do you know that there's a thing, there's a thing there, Oscar,

1249
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: where it's normative determinism, where your surname actually determines what

1250
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: you become later in life.

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Speaker 22: Did you know that Oh wow, really I don't know that.

1252
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why there are a lot of a lot

1253
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 2: of doctors, like orthopedic doctors who have the surname leg

1254
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: for example death. Yeah, I'm not even making.

1255
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 15: If Oscar's last name just had one one in and there,

1256
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 15: like Oscar Knightley rather than Oscar Kylie, you could.

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01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: Be a Knight that's right. Yeah, Dragon's be aware, that's

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 5: See.

1260
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I looked at it all and I though, okay,

1261
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: this is really interesting from her who's being punished, who

1262
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: tried to do a code perspective, and and and that

1263
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: is that is a legit thing to be interested in.

1264
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: But what actually took me more than anything was Bush

1265
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: losing the campaign chair and it being replaced by Simeon Brown.

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01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: Him being replaced by Simon Brown, because I think that

1267
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: that actually makes it My read on that would be

1268
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: that the National Party will become more conservative in their campaign.

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01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: What do you think?

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 15: Yeah, look, that's possible. But I think Simeon has a

1271
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 15: really good political radar. He's someone who just is able

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01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 15: to speak to the man woman in the streets importantly, absolutely,

1273
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 15: and that's that's going to be crucial. And yeah, look

1274
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 15: I guess what you want is someone who's you know,

1275
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 15: you want to Barramas. So what's the temperature out there?

1276
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 15: So what kind of weather should we turn on? Politically?

1277
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 15: I think Simony will be able to step up for that.

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01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 15: Bishop did get a new portfolio that was the Minister

1279
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 15: of back room cook cues. So I don't know much.

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01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, very good. You've been working on that all day,

1281
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: have you.

1282
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 8: Tim.

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01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 15: Just for the last five minutes, just just chet GPT

1284
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 15: And by the way, when Chris Pink opens the Straits

1285
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 15: of hor Moos, he's definitely going to be the prime minister.

1286
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, did you know that he used to

1287
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: be in the Navy?

1288
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 15: Actually, yes, in a submarine. He's done.

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01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know what do we have subs?

1290
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 15: No it was it was for no, we don't, we don't.

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 15: It was for I think it was in the OSSI.

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Speaker 15: He did some time with the Aussies in a.

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Speaker 2: Subcol That's cool. Okay, Now, Oscar scale of one to ten.

1294
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Speaker 2: How excited about the moon?

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01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 22: Well, I'm still flabbergasted that there are still people that

1296
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 22: don't believe the first time.

1297
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people and growing growing.

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01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 22: Yeah, thats just bigause Yeah, that just big is believed

1299
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 22: to me. I mean, I think it's cool. But also

1300
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 22: I can't understand where America's you know, shedding money. I've

1301
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 22: got so many issues and yet they're spending all this

1302
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 22: money to go to the Moon again. But I mean,

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Speaker 22: I'm excited, and I hope it does kind of at

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Speaker 22: least put to bed some of the conspiracy theories. But

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Speaker 22: it probably won't.

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Speaker 2: Will it term though?

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Speaker 3: Will it?

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Speaker 15: Well, here's the thing about the American government. I mean,

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Speaker 15: they can't even prosecute a what is it, four to

1310
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Speaker 15: six week war effectively? How could they organize a conspiracy

1311
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Speaker 15: like of the size that you know, the Moon conspiracy

1312
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Speaker 15: conspiracists think it is. And you're right, Oscar, Like in

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Speaker 15: nineteen sixty one, because we're interested in numbers, at Maximus

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Speaker 15: to shoot, the deficit was three billion dollars. It's now

1315
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Speaker 15: thirty eight trillion dollars. So there is a and you know,

1316
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Speaker 15: the interest bill is fifty billion a day. What goes

1317
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Speaker 15: up must come down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, let'st we can talk about that for

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Speaker 2: hours as well. Hey, guys, thank you appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Oscar Kitely and Tim Wilson A huddle this evening wrong.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get you to Thomas this thing about

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01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: what really happened on that Sunday night at the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister's Eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio powered by News Talk zeb.

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Speaker 2: Heather. The best headline was from Greg Sheridan in the Australian.

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Speaker 2: Elbow's address was just dame Edna on a bad night.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what Elbow really can't read an AUTOQ like

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: it was really bad, which actually just goes. It makes

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: when you see somebody like Elbow do it that badly,

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01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: it makes you realize what a skill it is for

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Speaker 2: somebody like Jasin dar Dun to actually do it quite well.

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Speaker 2: Because it was heady est to listen to five away

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Speaker 2: from six. Okay, here we go. So this is Thomas

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01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: Coglin's piece today about the reshuffle, and he seems to

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Speaker 2: have answered the question about what happened in that mystery

1337
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: Sunday night meeting. Originally we were all like, why is

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01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: this getting any attention? Sunday night meetings are normal. It's

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Speaker 2: just a kitchen cabinet meeting.

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Speaker 6: Aha.

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01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 2: There was a second meeting, reveals Thomas a meeting later

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Speaker 2: that night, a meeting of Luxe and loyalists Mark Mitchell,

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith and Simon Watts. They don't want to say

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: what they were doing at that meeting or what they

1345
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: were talking about, but the allegation being put about is

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: that they confronted Luxon with news he was losing support

1347
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: in caucus and needed to act and act fast, and

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Speaker 2: that is why he did the reshuffle. Because the reshuffle,

1349
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Speaker 2: as Thomas points out, was not supposed to happen this week.

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: There was no there was no clarity, there was no

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Speaker 2: indication it was going to happen. This we I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's been talking about it since January, but that he

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01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: did it this week all of a sudden. Now they

1354
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: are right that he is losing supporting caucus and he

1355
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: did have to do something, and this is this is

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Speaker 2: his big play. Let's see if it works. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, also Thomas answers the question as to why

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01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: Penny Simmons not disrespect for Penny Simmons, But Penny's got

1359
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Speaker 2: a few mistakes in her in her history in the

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01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: National Party already, whereas James Meager doesn't. So why is

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Speaker 2: it the Penny Simmons got promoted above James Mega. Mega's

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01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: rumored position as Chris Bishop's numbers man in the December

1363
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Speaker 2: cop which didn't didn't eventuate, seems to be behind this,

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Speaker 2: so he's been punished for being the numbers man there.

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Speaker 23: Now.

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Speaker 2: Listen, this is important. April twenty is an important date

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Speaker 2: in the Iran crisis for ourselves. This is according to

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Speaker 2: Shane Jones. He says that there is advice that he's

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Speaker 2: been given that Asian refineries have been using up their

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Speaker 2: reserves to refine fuel. That's why we've had a NonStop

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Speaker 2: supply of fuel because they have used their own storage,

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Speaker 2: have been eating into what they had right used their

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01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: own storage, used the four hundred million barrels that was

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Speaker 2: released by the Energy the International Energy Agency, and various

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Speaker 2: floating feedstock that they got from Russia and Iran. But

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Speaker 2: by the twentieth of April they will have used it

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Speaker 2: all up, and that is when we find out whether

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Speaker 2: we're going to have fuel shortages. So maybe that's what

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Speaker 2: Elbow was hinting at when he said tough times were

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Speaker 2: to come. Anyway, Chris Quin of Food Stuffs is going

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01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: to be with us next because of course we wanted

1382
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: to talk to Nicola about why the grower sells one

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: dollar seventy for one KGFPS and then it ends up

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: five dollars seventy nine in the McCain's bag at foodstuffs

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Speaker 2: on pack and sage shelves. Hopefully Chris can answer it

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Speaker 2: for us. US talks ATB.

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Speaker 1: What's up, what's down? What were the major calls and

1388
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: how will it affect the economy? The big business questions

1389
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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour, we've had the duper c allen

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Speaker 1: and massed insurance and investments, your futures in good hands?

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Speaker 8: Used talks B.

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Speaker 2: Evening coming up in the next hour. Sam Dickie is

1393
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: going to talk us through the impact that the Iran

1394
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: war is having on investors. Jamie McKay on farmers worried

1395
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: that this is actually going to be worse than COVID

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01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: for them. And then we have Indebrady out of the

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Speaker 2: UK as per usual on a Thursday at a seven

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Speaker 2: past six. Now we've been discussing on the show in

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Speaker 2: the last week. One of the questions that's arisen since

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: the McCain closure who's making the money? And this has

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01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: come from a Hawk's Bay farmer who says that he

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Speaker 2: sells one KGFPS for a dollar seventy and that ends

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01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: up on pack and Save shelves at five dollars seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: Food Stuffs North Island owners of Pack and Safe Chief

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Speaker 2: executive Chris Quinn is with us.

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Speaker 3: Hello Chris, afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 2: So how do we explain that one dollar seventy becomes

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Speaker 2: five dollars seventy nine.

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Speaker 10: Look, we've been saying for some time, Heather, that basically

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Speaker 10: of a retail dollar as the supermarket, our owners and

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Speaker 10: Edgeta's emergently owned get about nineteen cents out of each

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Speaker 10: retail dollar. So went trawling through the Pack and Save

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Speaker 10: freezers to have a look at the peace and basically

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Speaker 10: a kilo of PS we retail between five dollars twenty

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 10: nine a normal price and three dollars forty nine on special.

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Speaker 10: So you know, if you mix that up, it's about

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Speaker 10: four dollars thirty five on average. You take gst off

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 10: that you get three seventy eight. Those bags of peas

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Speaker 10: cost us about three dollars to buy into store, So

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Speaker 10: that brings you back to about eighteen or nineteen cents.

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Speaker 10: And the dollar is what the supermarket earns. And there's

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Speaker 10: been you know, months of studies on this industry, so

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Speaker 10: that are looking at that and proving.

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Speaker 2: That out right, So you're using the five dollars, you're

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Speaker 2: basically ignoring the five dollars set only nine figure in

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Speaker 2: that right.

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Speaker 10: Well, because it's five twenty nine are normal retails? I

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Speaker 10: don't know, we're five to seventy nine.

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01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it was a tough day, tough term.

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Speaker 10: I think we did find a mixed veggie's bag for

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Speaker 10: five to seventy nine, so maybe that's the one perhaps.

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Speaker 2: So all right, but even then, I mean, if he's

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Speaker 2: if he's basically selling it for a dollar seventy and

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Speaker 2: you'll buy, you're buying it for three dollars, there's only

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: a dollar thirty, which explains all of the processing and

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Speaker 2: whatnot that has to happen with mccains and the transporting

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Speaker 2: and stuff. So it looks to me like nobody's making

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Speaker 2: much of a buck here.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's certainly not easy, and I think that's certainly

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Speaker 10: you know what we're seeing with mccains and what is

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 10: pretty tragic news in terms of viability for them, And

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01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 10: I think when you read their stories, the energy costs,

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01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 10: compliance and regulation costs, the transport costs. They are all

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Speaker 10: what's working against everybody in the industry at the moment.

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 10: And you know, we're seeing diesel more than double in

1446
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 10: price in four or five weeks at the moment, and

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Speaker 10: this is putting pressure on the food system.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that this is inevitable?

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Speaker 5: Chris?

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: If you look around the country and you see the

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Speaker 2: various closures mccains heinz waties, and see what we are

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: prepared to pay for things on the shelves and our

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: preference obviously for cheaper means stuff that's important. Is it

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Speaker 2: just inevitable that the likes of mccaines will close.

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Speaker 10: Look, I hope it's not inevitable because we're really value

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01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 10: our New Zealand growers and New Zealand desperately needs more

1457
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 10: VALUATEDI businesses in New Zealand generating the jobs in generating

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Speaker 10: that way.

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Speaker 2: So, with respect, hoping for something is not the same

1460
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Speaker 2: as the reality of it. So what do you think

1461
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: is it inevitable that this happens?

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's inevitable. I think to focus on, Yeah,

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01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 10: what we've got to focus on is how do we

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 10: be as efficient as we possibly can in a country

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 10: of our size and density. You know, I keep thinking

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01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 10: we're the same size as Japan with one hundred and

1467
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 10: thirty five million less people. So we've got to think

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01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 10: about how to all of our regulations and all of

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 10: our systems and processes make us as lean and as

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Speaker 10: competitive as we can, and keep thinking about designing for hair,

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Speaker 10: not for somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think we get told? There are

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: three main cost pressures that I understand, the likes of

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Speaker 2: McCain's is facing right. Obviously, one is energy. The other

1475
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: one is the minimum wage and the fact that the

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: minimum wage that we pay in this country is the

1477
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Speaker 2: third highest in the world. And then the other one

1478
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: is the red tape. Of the three of them, which

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01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: is the biggest pressure.

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01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 10: Look, I think most people would say energy has been

1481
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 10: a huge pressure in the last year or two. I

1482
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 10: think red tape. You know that if you look at

1483
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 10: and go what could you work on as a country,

1484
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 10: I think you can work on energy and red tape.

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Speaker 2: Minimum wage.

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Speaker 10: Third one, Well, people have got to be able to

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Speaker 10: have a decent standard of living and to be paid fairly.

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01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 10: So you'd like to think what we can do is

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Speaker 10: have more valuable jobs, not less.

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Speaker 2: Now what I've noticed is that there's been a little

1491
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: bit of winging in winging is not for it. There's

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01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: been a bit of complaining in New Zealand from the farmers,

1493
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 2: but I say it's really quite intense from the Aussie

1494
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: farmers about what the supermarkets in Australia and New Zealand

1495
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Speaker 2: are doing. And this is really the home brand. Are you, guys,

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: by rising your home brand so low and using product

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01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: that is imported rather than local stuff, are you essentially

1498
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Speaker 2: driving now local guys out of business?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 10: I think first thing, you know, just a fact that's

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01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 10: useful for people to know. Sixty eight percent of what

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01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,959
Speaker 10: we do in home brand comes from New Zealand suppliers.

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 10: And the idea of home brand is that you don't

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01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 10: invest the money in the brand and marketing. That it's

1505
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 10: good quality, but it's specified to different levels. You know,

1506
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 10: there's a value one, a medium one and a finest one.

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 10: And the idea is that you know, we don't make

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01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 10: it ourselves. We're not the manufacturer of the manufacturers. Generally

1509
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 10: people like Waddies and the Caves, and we have parted

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 10: with both of them on private label. But the idea

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 10: is to offer our customers an option that doesn't have

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01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 10: all of the brand and other marketing associated with it,

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01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 10: but is a good, honest, quality product on shelf, and

1514
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 10: so that there is an alternative for customers and we

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 10: see them liking it, particularly in the last few years

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01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 10: when cost of living has been really tough.

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Speaker 2: What's up with the I was reading newsroom the morning,

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: so that you guys are using in bringing in Tasmanian

1519
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: salmon in place of New Zealand salmon.

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Speaker 10: Why is that thans to offer the option again? So

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 10: you know, New Zealand salmon is doing incredibly well on

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01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 10: export markets and that's great because it's great for our

1523
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 10: salmon farming businesses. That means that the export price is

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 10: also what you need to pay here for that particular product.

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Speaker 10: So we're trying to make sure we've got alternative products

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Speaker 10: at different price levels and then most importantly, just give

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Speaker 10: customers the choices.

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Speaker 2: All right, Chris, it's always good to talk to you.

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: Thank you for making the time to have a chat

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: to us. It's Chris Quinn who is the boss of

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 2: food Stuff's North Island Heather. Oh, here we go, Here

1532
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: we go is east to travel? Hither I'm at Auckland

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01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: Airport declined entry to the Koru lounge put in their

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: overflow lounge. No self service drinks have to stand in

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: the long slow line to get a drink. It's sure

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01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: why I pray the I think, not sure why I

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: pay the premium ticket price. I can confirm that a

1538
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: New Zealand does officially suck. Now, this is what I'm

1539
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 2: saying to you. I'm not in one of this, and

1540
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying in New Zealand sucks. I'm saying in

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: New Zealand lives all dies on the premium experience, which

1542
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: often is connected with the Cora Club. And if you're

1543
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: having a stink old Cora Club experience like you are,

1544
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: then you're just gonna go Jet Star, aren't you? And

1545
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: let me remind you you can have a gin on

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Speaker 2: jet Star anytime you like. Here are your numbers. N

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Speaker 2: z X fifty up zero point five nine percent today

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01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 2: ASX fifty down zero point eight eight percent so far

1549
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: today barrel of Brent crude costs one hundred and seven

1550
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: US dollars. Now, I think that's gone up around about

1551
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: six percent last time I checked. Let me which have

1552
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: a look for you. Yep, up six percent today, So

1553
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 2: that speech didn't how much did it from Donald Trump?

1554
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: One New Zealand dollar is worth fifty seven US cns,

1555
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Speaker 2: eighty three Australian cents, forty nine eurocents, forty nine eurosents,

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01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: forty three ukpens and ninety one yen fourteen plus six.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 2: With the fuel prices reaching the record global highs and

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Speaker 2: thus htting Kiwi's hard in the pocket, it really pays,

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Speaker 2: this eighty years. How good is that they have got

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Speaker 2: real skin in this game at when it comes to

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Speaker 2: supporting New Zealand. Why Tormore's focus is simple, fairer fuel

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Speaker 2: prices for kiwis and great service as well, whether it's

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Speaker 2: filling up the family car, bulk fuel delivery with tank

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Speaker 2: supply or fuel delivered straight to site. Why Tormore can

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Speaker 2: do it and do it for less than they will

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Speaker 2: with fuel stops and delivery options. Right across the country

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Speaker 2: from the top of the north to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the south. It's really easy to fuel up and get moving.

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Speaker 2: So next time you fill up, think why talll more

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Speaker 2: same fuel, great service, better price. You can get more keiwi.

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Speaker 2: You cannot get more keiwi than that, so find out

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Speaker 1: Z the Rural Report with farmlands. Don't let unsafe gears

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Speaker 1: slow you down.

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Speaker 2: I hear the Tallies have just commissioned a new veggie

1583
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: processing plant. Actually got quite a interesting text on McCain's

1584
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: I'll get to and just to tick Jamie Kai host

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01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: of the Countries with us Alo Jamie.

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01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 24: Gooda Heather and the hats off to w Tomo, a

1587
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 24: small player keeping the big players honest. Yeah, competition is

1588
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 24: everything so good on them?

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, Thank you. Now, why are the

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: farmers worried that this fuel crist is going to work

1591
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 2: out being worse than COVID.

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01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 24: Well exactly because of you know what we've talked about before,

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01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 24: just the supply and the cost. It's a double headed monster. Really,

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 24: just a couple of farmers. I've got to give credit

1595
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 24: here to the Otago Daily Times and had a really

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01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 24: interesting story in today's paper and they quoted a couple

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01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 24: of farmers who I know, so I thought i'd quote

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 24: him back to you. One is Riversdale grain farmer Chris Dillon.

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Speaker 24: He's from a family that are big, big arable farmers

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 24: down there, and it's the arable farmers that are getting

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 24: are real thrashing at the moment. Unlike transport operators who

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 24: are also doing it tough that the farmers can't pass

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01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 24: on a fuel surcharge. They're locked into pre season contracts.

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01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 24: They're effectively absorbing the extra costs themselves. And crystillan quoted

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 24: some of the fuel figures that he's facing at the moment.

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01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 24: They're in harvest at the moment. As soon as they

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 24: get those crops off the ground heather, they're in with

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 24: their big gear and they're working up that ground to

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 24: get some more crops into the ground before winter or

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 24: get that ground ready for planting in an early spring.

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 24: In his case, he's running five tractors full time. His

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01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 24: farm consumed between six thousand and seven thousand liters of

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Speaker 24: diesel a week. A week, I'm talking about a single

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 24: three hundred and twenty horsepower tractor can burn through five

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01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 24: hundred liters a day, contributing to an estimated one hundred

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Speaker 24: and ninety thousand dollars fuel bill for his peak period,

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 24: and that figure has.

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: Obviously surged in recent times.

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Speaker 24: On top of that, they've got rapidly increasing prices or

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 24: prices should I say, for fertilizer. Up in central Otago,

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 24: another farmer was quoted made of mine, Ste Duncan. I

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 24: call him the unofficial mayor of where to Bernie's on

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 24: the local council. He's also a big, large scale farmer,

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01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 24: and he was putting on his local government hat and

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01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 24: saying fuel costs could hit local government budgets really badly,

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Speaker 24: with essential services like services like road management coming significantly

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 24: more expensive. He said, our entire rates increase in his

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 24: neck of the woods, Manetoto could be swallowed by the

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01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 24: fuel price increase for graters. And then the other problem

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 24: farmers face. They're using big gear these days here that

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 24: there's no such thing as the old tractors of the

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 24: old days. They're using big gear. They're cutting heavy loads,

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Speaker 24: and when it comes to winter feeding out, it's all

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01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 24: done on big tractors with big bailage and silage feeders.

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01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 24: So if they can't get diesel in the winter, those

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 24: stock will go hungry, could starve. I mean, that's worst

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01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 24: case scenario. But it's just it's just it's a bit

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01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 24: of a grim picture, especially for the arable farmers.

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Speaker 5: Really thinking of them.

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01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, prefer for the worst and hope for the best. Day, Jamie,

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: thank you very much and have it a happy East

1642
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: to Jamie and your family. That's Jamie McKay, Hosts of

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01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 2: the Country Heather Arable Farmers getting a thrashing lull. That

1644
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: was actually good unintentional dad, Joe, but very good. Well

1645
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: picked up, Simon. Now, I think this is interesting. Of Com,

1646
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: which is one of the regulators over in the UK's

1647
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: done a report on how many people are using social

1648
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: media and adults are increasingly using less of it. So

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01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: the number of adults actively engaging with social media by

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01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 2: posting or commenting has fallen from sixty one percent in

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01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to forty nine percent last year. That's

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01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: a twelve percent drop. That's reasonably significant. Fewer people feel

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: positive about being online. Only thirty six percent of social

1654
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: media users say the platforms are good for their mental health.

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01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: That's down from forty two percent the previous year. I think,

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01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: I reckon we are through the peak of social media.

1657
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: We're coming out the other side, and I reckon it's

1658
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: starting to become like it's like one of those things

1659
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: where people get really excited about something, go go you know,

1660
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: absolutely mental on it, and then come out the other

1661
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: side and go, now, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

1662
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: use it, use it a little bit, but not as

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 2: much as I did six twenty two, approaching.

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Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy Allen

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with mass Insurance and investments, your

1666
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 1: futures in good hands, News talks that'd.

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Speaker 2: Be There's a meeting tonight midnight our time, thirty four

1668
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: countries who are going to get together and discuss next

1669
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: steps to reopen and secure the Strait of Jumus. We

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01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: will be part of that, but of course because it

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 2: is midnight, because Winston is coming back from the Cooks

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01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: and whatnot. The meeting will be attended on New Zealand's

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: behalf by the High Commissioner in London, Hamish Cooper. See

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01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: what comes out of that. Twenty five past six now

1675
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: government's clearly very touchy about the ALNG idea. That sounds

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: like it's going to be killed. So the Energy Minister

1677
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: Simon Watts told off a couple of power company CEOs

1678
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 2: for making jokes about it. It happened at a conference

1679
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: called Downstream, which is apparently the country's most heavily attended

1680
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: annual energy conference, and they had a panel discussion and

1681
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 2: the Meridian Energy CEO Mike Rohan was there and he

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: joked that the Iran war had put a bazooka through

1683
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 2: the government's LNG plan, and then the genus, I suppose

1684
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: that's a weapons joke, because it's a war. I don't know.

1685
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,560
Speaker 2: And then the Genesis Energy CEO, Malcolm John's suggested that

1686
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 2: LNG didn't stand for liquefied blah blah gas. Whatever it

1687
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: stood for likely no gas, which is actually not bad,

1688
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 2: but Simon did not find it funny. Simon Watts then

1689
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: went to the conference yesterday afternoon and told them off,

1690
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: told the whole lot of them off, said in this room,

1691
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 2: we've had a bit of a joke about this in

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01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: the last few days. It is not a joke for

1693
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: people to have sat here and joked about high energy prices.

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01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: I find that completely unacceptable because of course shutting down

1695
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 2: industry and hurting people, which he makes a fair point.

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01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: He does make a fair point there, Simon, but he

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01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: does also need to accept that the LNG thing is

1698
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 2: now past the point of no return. It's going to

1699
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: be killed, and there's it's always a warning sign when

1700
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: when something when something attracts ridicule, get rid of it.

1701
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: It is a problem. It's a problem. Six twenty seven.

1702
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business under Mona Litha Brickens

1703
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 2: aren't going very well for Meghan the Stallion on Broadway.

1704
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: She's currently starring as Zidler in Moulin Rouge the Musical

1705
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: in New York, but her show on Tuesday took a

1706
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: bit of a sudden turn. Mid performance, everything stopped. The

1707
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: audience didn't know what was going on. It turns out

1708
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,919
Speaker 2: Meghan the Stallion had collapsed backstage and was rushed to hospital.

1709
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 2: She has since cleared things up. She says the doctors

1710
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 2: have diagnosed her with extreme exhaustion, dehydration, vaso constriction, and

1711
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: low metabolic levels. She was discharged the same day. She's

1712
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: now resting at home. In a statement, she admitted she

1713
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: had been pushing it too hard. She said, her body

1714
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: basically hit the brakes. She told fans she calls them

1715
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: her hotties. She told her fans that she just needs

1716
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: a day to reset and take better care of herself,

1717
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: and in true show must go on fashion, she says

1718
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 2: she's going to be back on stage tomorrow and she's

1719
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 2: going to finish her run through to May seventeen, like

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01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 2: some sort of a stallion. You know, I'm going to

1721
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: ignore it, thinks. While we're on the subject of jokes,

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01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: I haven't even started on LNG. Simon will call me

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 2: out me know, me happy about it.

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 10: I do just like that.

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,919
Speaker 4: You know how we all think that we're amateur comedians

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Speaker 4: and like making jokes. I like that the CEOs of

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Speaker 4: like really big important companies and their spare time they

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Speaker 4: like to just try and make jokes as well.

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Speaker 2: Malcolm, have just gone up my list of favorite CEOs

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Speaker 2: of power companies. I didn't have a list before. I

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Speaker 2: didn't have a rank, like a power ranking.

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Speaker 4: Now I have a power Maybe in the business hour

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Speaker 4: we can get a we can do as sement. We

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Speaker 4: get a CEO on like once a day to just

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Speaker 4: tell a joke.

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Speaker 2: Have got like ridiculous policy idea of the week. Go Malcolm,

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01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: see what he can do like all the jokes in

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds. Sam Dicky's next age, don't let them get you,

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01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: whoop get you, whether.

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Speaker 1: It's macro, micro or just plain economics. All on the

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01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: business hour with the hand the dupla and mas insurance

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Speaker 1: and investments, Your futures in good hands, us talks Envy.

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Speaker 1: Oh bever, you come.

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01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 2: With us out of the UK in ten minutes. Tell

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Speaker 2: you what over in the UK and Europe are freaking

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01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: out a little bit about toret Trump's latest comments on NATO.

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01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 2: He gave an interview to the Telegraph and he's gone

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Speaker 2: further about NATO than he has before, saying it's a

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Speaker 2: paper tie, guessaying he's strongly considering pulling out after Europe

1750
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: failed to join his war in Iran. So endo on

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Speaker 2: that in ten minutes time. And I have to tell

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01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: you you're gonna have to hear about the singing sessions

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01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 2: at Envy, because if you didn't think the public service

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Speaker 2: was cooked, wow, you're definitely gonna think it's cooked after this.

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Speaker 2: Surely to God twenty three away from seven now the

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Speaker 2: Iran War five weeks on. That's where we're at right

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Speaker 2: The real story is starting to show up where it

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Speaker 2: matters most, which is in the company results, in the

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Speaker 2: consumer confidence and the everyday costs outside of the petrol pump.

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Speaker 2: Sam Dicky from Fisher Funds is with us on this

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Speaker 2: high Sam, Good evening, Heather. So what are the companies

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Speaker 2: actually saying right now?

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Speaker 25: Yes, a few different buckets. So firstly, the obvious one

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Speaker 25: being companies with fuel as a direct cost. And Scott Kirby,

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Speaker 25: the CEO of United Airlines, is stress testing his fleet

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Speaker 25: against oil, hitting one hundred and seventy five dollars a barrel.

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Speaker 25: Now that's not a worst case, it's more a planning assumption.

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Speaker 25: Just for context. That adds a potential eleven billion dollar

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Speaker 25: dollars to United Airlines costs, which is more than double

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Speaker 25: their best ever profit year, and they're already cutting five

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Speaker 25: percent of flights on the most marginal routes. The second

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Speaker 25: bucket is Middle Eastern buyers have been critical growth drivers

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Speaker 25: for luxury demand and one hundred billion dollars are being

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Speaker 25: wiped off luxury valuations in the last month. And I

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Speaker 25: think Bentley's CEO and an investor call set at best.

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Speaker 25: People in the Middle East sadly have thoughts on their

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Speaker 25: mind other than looking for a new Bentley right now,

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Speaker 25: And Ferrari's actually suspended deliveries to the region entirely. And

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Speaker 25: this is the hidden inflation story which we talked about before.

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Speaker 25: UPS and FedEx both just announced emergency fuel charges on

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Speaker 25: international freight container ships with goods on them are rerouting

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Speaker 25: via south in Africa, which adds up to forty days

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Speaker 25: to transit time. So if you think about that, those

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Speaker 25: additional costs land on shop shelves in the US and

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Speaker 25: sixty days. And here's the less obvious one. So Samsung

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Speaker 25: and esk Heine's out of Korea make the chips that

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Speaker 25: power AI and those chips run on helium. Helium cools

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Speaker 25: the superconducting magnets that make semiconductors work, and Katar produces

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Speaker 25: a third of the world's helium. And then all ships

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Speaker 25: through hor moves of course, so we do think chip

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Speaker 25: makers will be prioritized over party balloons, but I do

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Speaker 25: think there's one to keep an eye on either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. And what are the consumer data points telling us?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 25: Consumer confidence measures, which are sort of like the crystal

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Speaker 25: balls on future spending patterns for consumers are under pressure.

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Speaker 25: So the US University of Michigan sentiment fell to fifty three,

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Speaker 25: which is lower than ninety eight percent of all months

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Speaker 25: since the survey began in ninety seventy eight. Closer to home,

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Speaker 25: Australian consumer confidence just hit a record low ever in

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Speaker 25: fifty years a couple of.

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Speaker 8: Days to go.

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Speaker 25: In Europe's the same story, So consumer confidence had one

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Speaker 25: of the largest falls on record outside of the pandemic

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Speaker 25: and the Ukraine conflict. And the important thing to remember

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Speaker 25: is real consumer spending declines two to three months after

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Speaker 25: an oil shock. That's what history tells us, So any

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Speaker 25: spending cliff is likely to hit in June.

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Speaker 2: And so what does this mean for investors? Do you think?

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Speaker 25: I think we all know that the longer this goes

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Speaker 25: on for that, the deeper the future consumer and business

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Speaker 25: spending cuts will be. And the good news is, though,

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Speaker 25: I think I think the US government knows this too.

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Speaker 25: And there's Goldman. Sachs reminds us in twenty one military

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Speaker 25: conflicts over forty years, markets were high in ninety percent

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Speaker 25: of the time eight weeks later, So nobody knows when

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Speaker 25: the straight up all moves opens, but when it does,

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Speaker 25: the relief rally in stocks will be sharp and fast.

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Speaker 2: Sam, thank you very much. It's a lot to consider that,

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Speaker 2: Sam Dickey Fisher funds twenty away from seven for see

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Speaker 2: Allen listen. I need to apologize if you are when

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Speaker 2: far North through Truer Lower Lower North Island. I think

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Speaker 2: Wellington Company live in that kind of part of town.

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Speaker 2: We have got some patchy and dodgy reception going on,

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01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,799
Speaker 2: So if you can hear this then you're probably okay.

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Speaker 2: But you might also hear me apparently sounding like I

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Speaker 2: have really bad hiccups according to Julianne, so you might

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Speaker 2: be able to hear it just with the hircup's apologies. Now,

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Speaker 2: I've got to tell you about the singing sessions at

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01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: mb SO. The Taxpayers Union has been doing some digging

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01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 2: and I really appreciate that these guys have consistently interrogate

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Speaker 2: the public services to what they're doing with their time

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Speaker 2: and spending their money on. They've done some digging. They

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Speaker 2: found out that the staff at mb AS in the

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment have an entitlement for singing.

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Speaker 2: They are allowed to do WAYATA sessions inside the office

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Speaker 2: for thirty minutes a day, five days a week. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I have nothing that

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01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: I get given to me forty minutes a day, five

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Speaker 2: days a week. The bosses realized that this was wasting

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Speaker 2: two and a half hours a week of every employee

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Speaker 2: who wanted to participates time. So they decided best thing

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Speaker 2: to do, maybe in fact, to cut that down, because

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe we want to be more efficient.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They suggested, how about we go, Hey, how about we

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Speaker 2: take that five times thirty minutes and go to two

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Speaker 2: times twenty minutes a week. How would that? Note said

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Speaker 2: the staff. Staff wrote an eight page submission demanding that

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Speaker 2: the Waiata entitlement continue. They refused to move to the

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Speaker 2: ground floor because they were asked to move to the

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Speaker 2: ground floor, presumably to stop distracting the rest of their

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Speaker 2: colleagues who were trying to actually do some work in

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Speaker 2: the bloody office. No, they refused to move to the

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Speaker 2: ground floor because the acoustics wouldn't work for them. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: this is what they said. The acoustics weren't going to work,

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Speaker 2: and the spaces may increase the risk of airborne illnesses

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Speaker 2: such as COVID nineteen due to limited ventilation, just any

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01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 2: old excuse. They were so adamant about this that they

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Speaker 2: dragged the chief executive into it. Sounds like at least

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Speaker 2: a couple of meetings in the end. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: what the outcome is because, frankly, as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 2: even one way outer session a week is too much.

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Speaker 2: So either way, I just feel like I'm a taxpayer

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Speaker 2: being taken for a ride here once again by public

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Speaker 2: servants who don't know the meaning of hard work. And

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Speaker 2: just to add insult to injury, I will remind you

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Speaker 2: that MB is the ministry that is responsible for businesses

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Speaker 2: while clearly being a ministry that is non run, not

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Speaker 2: run at all with private business efficiency. Seventeen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

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Speaker 1: with Heather Dupical and mass Insurance and investments, your futures

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01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: in good hands, News talks.

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Speaker 2: I'd be whether that's happening in most government departments Lord

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Speaker 2: above Quarter two Ender Brady, UK correspondent with US Allo Ender.

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Speaker 20: Hey have a good speak to you again.

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Speaker 2: So Starmer wants to move closer to Europe because of

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Speaker 2: what Trump has said here.

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Speaker 20: Yes, and look this is big actually, So from months

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Speaker 20: and months months we've seen everyone in London just doing

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Speaker 20: their absolute best, bending over backwards. Nothing's been good enough

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Speaker 20: for this Trump administration. Starmer's done his best to sit

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Speaker 20: on the fencer, sit between two continents really, you know,

1884
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 20: trying to stay friends with Europe and trying to have

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Speaker 20: that American ally relationship that's always been there. And I

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Speaker 20: think what has come out of Downing Street overnight is

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Speaker 20: basically they've had enough. He has come out and said

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Speaker 20: that the UK will be moving closer to the European Union.

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Speaker 20: My prediction is within a decade and I said this

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Speaker 20: when Breggs had happened. Within a decade. Now there will

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Speaker 20: be another referendum on rejoining the European Union for economic reasons.

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Speaker 20: But why Starmer is saying this, I think it's all

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Speaker 20: about defense and security.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there has to be a referendum And

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Speaker 2: will it be something that will just a decision that

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Speaker 2: will be tagging.

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Speaker 20: Oh no, no, they'll have to have a referendum. But look,

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Speaker 20: the Cameron messed up royally last time round. People now

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Speaker 20: are seeing it. London tumbleweed, no investment, the state of

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Speaker 20: the country. I mean just there's no growth, there's no money.

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Speaker 20: Everything that was we were told would be project fear

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01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 20: has turned out to be project fact. And it's a sad,

1903
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 20: sad state of affairs. But that was big, big announcement

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01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 20: from the Prime Minister last night, and it's.

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Speaker 6: A big deal.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And what is your read on and the likelihood that

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01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: Trump does actually follow through with these threats and pull

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Speaker 2: out NATO.

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Speaker 20: I don't think he will. I don't think he will

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Speaker 20: at all. I think, you know, if we use that

1912
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 20: acronym tacko, Trump always chickens out. I think what he's

1913
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Speaker 20: doing is trying to bully people into going into his war,

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Speaker 20: and nobody in.

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Speaker 8: Europe wants this.

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Speaker 20: We've seen the Spanish close in their airspace to American

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Speaker 20: military aircraft and their bases. Nobody wants this. He's losing

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Speaker 20: friends left, right and center. And I think what he's

1919
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Speaker 20: doing is actually creating European unity like we've not seen

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Speaker 20: in decades.

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Speaker 2: Into what is going on with the teenagers in London.

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Speaker 20: So this is all being organized via TikTok. Pretty kind

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01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 20: of strange events the other day in Clapham, hundreds and

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Speaker 20: hundreds of ballot clavit claud and hoodie wearing youngsters turning up,

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Speaker 20: meeting up outside a fast food restaurant and basically causing

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Speaker 20: chaos going into supermarkets and shops and shoplifting and really

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Speaker 20: really poor behavior and just a handful of police officers

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Speaker 20: on the scene trying to deal with it. So it's

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Speaker 20: all being organized, as I say, via social media, mostly

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Speaker 20: via TikTok. And the hope is that you know that

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Speaker 20: they've got time off now the Easter holidays, that this

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Speaker 20: is not happening again. This weekend several big retailers had

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Speaker 20: to shut early.

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Speaker 2: Now I see the mayor signing London's a safe place,

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Speaker 2: and then this has happened. I mean, you can't say

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Speaker 2: that with a stripeface, Kenny, when this is happening.

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Speaker 20: Well, it's not a safe place. And I'll give you

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Speaker 20: one anecdotal example. The building I work in on Gray's

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Speaker 20: in Road. Pretty much every single person has had their

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Speaker 20: mobile phone stolen out of their hand on that street.

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Speaker 6: It's happening every day. And this is you know, you're walking.

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Speaker 20: It hasn't happened me, thankfully yet, but you're you're walking

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Speaker 20: along the pavement and someone scoots by on an e

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Speaker 20: scooter or an electric motorbike or a proper motorbike. And

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Speaker 20: one colleague happened to ten days ago on my program's

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Speaker 20: group chat. He sent a message yesterday with the screenshot

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Speaker 20: of where his mobile phone now is and it's currently

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Speaker 20: in Guangdong Province in China. So that's how quickly it's

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Speaker 20: an organized crime racket. They're stealing mobile phones, getting them

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Speaker 20: out of London, flying them to China, wiping them and

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Speaker 20: selling them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting that that's happening. Act did Larry by the way,

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Speaker 2: did Larry catch a master Iar?

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Speaker 5: Read?

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Speaker 20: Yes, finally it's already look, it's already taken him fifteen years.

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Speaker 20: Larry was probably David Cameron's best recruit. Larry the cat

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Speaker 20: at number ten Downing Street and certainly the most popular

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Speaker 20: resident there's ever been in Downing Street. He was brought

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Speaker 20: in because Cameron was upset. In twenty eleven, TV camera

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Speaker 20: crew got pictures of a rat hopping across the front

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Speaker 20: step and it went viral, so Cameron went Dolphin got

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Speaker 20: a cat. Larry was that cat and would you believe it,

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Speaker 20: yesterday some photographers saw Larry a catching a mass It's

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Speaker 20: only taken them fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Bless well done him, well done, thank you, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there we go, hilarious. Have yourself a happy easterly end

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Speaker 2: of that's end of Brady our UK correspondent Heather. Many

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Speaker 2: government departments have weekly cut a care that people are

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Speaker 2: forced to do. It's because it sounds like it's a

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Speaker 2: candy session in there. Don't you think it sounds because

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Speaker 2: they have they have the cut akere, then they have

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Speaker 2: the wayyata and look, I don't mind, you know you

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Speaker 2: do you you do that like that stuff's cool. I

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Speaker 2: mean I like to say a prayer before my aunt

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Speaker 2: says a prayer before his meal as well. I'm fine

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Speaker 2: with that, but you know, I'm not forcing all my

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Speaker 2: colleagues to do it with me. Maybe maybe what we've

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe the problem is that actually a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of public servants should have become candy teachers, because that

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Speaker 2: would just all day. You could do way out all

1981
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Speaker 2: day with the kids. They love it and that's it's

1982
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Speaker 2: good for them, and you can cut a care over

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Speaker 2: all the meals. No one's going to complain about it.

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Speaker 2: I just think that it's somewhere they took the wrong

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Speaker 2: career Apart and I'm happy to help them out get

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Speaker 2: back because we have a shortage of ECE teachers. So

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Speaker 2: when we fire them from the public service for wasting

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Speaker 2: our time, we'll send them over to the ECS and

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Speaker 2: they'll be so happy, and so will we. Nine Away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tuplicy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by news Dog ZBI.

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Speaker 2: Disney Plus. By the way, if you're one of those

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Speaker 2: people who like me, sometimes look at how much is

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Speaker 2: going out of your bank account paying for all the

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Speaker 2: streaming services and your weep. Disney Plus is thankfully bringing

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Speaker 2: in the cheaper ad option. You know, this is the

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Speaker 2: option where you are forced to watch the ads, but

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Speaker 2: you can pay less for it. Amazon Prime already does this,

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Speaker 2: so it's not the first to do it. What's interesting

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Speaker 2: is Netflix does this around the world, but doesn't offer

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Speaker 2: it in New Zealand yet. Anyway, Disney Plus hasn't got

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Speaker 2: a launch date yet or a price point, so we

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Speaker 2: wait to see what happens there. Ads.

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Speaker 4: We're going to pack up on something that Tim Wilson

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01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 4: pointed out a bit earlier, that Chris Pink was first

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Speaker 4: elect to to Parliament in twenty seventeen. Before that and

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Speaker 4: before he has promotion to the cabinet today, he served

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Speaker 4: on a submarine. He was originally in the Royal New

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01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 4: Zealand Navy in two thousand, but then he joined the

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Speaker 4: Australian Defense Force later on and fulfilled This is from

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01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 4: the National Party website. Apparently fulfilled his dream of serving

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Speaker 4: in the submarines, being appointed Navigating Officer of the HMAS

2014
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Speaker 4: Shianne in two thousand and six and was stationed in

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Speaker 4: the Northern Arabian Gulf in two thousand and seven. Now,

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Speaker 4: the interesting thing to me about that is who dreams.

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Speaker 2: Of serving on a submarine? That's what I thought as well.

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Speaker 4: I like, no, my soul, like, I don't have a

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Speaker 4: lot of experience with this. I walked through one at

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Speaker 4: a museum in America. I've read historical fiction, so maybe

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Speaker 4: I just it's all wrong. But they're horrible, Like you

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Speaker 4: don't have any space, your bang in your head all

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Speaker 4: the time, don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to explode under by the Titanic the other day.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a very good point, although hopefully this was nicer

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Speaker 4: than that submarine was. But like you know, the bunks

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Speaker 4: are tiny, you've got no privacy, You've got no space.

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Speaker 4: It's horribly hot, it's stinking. You can't just go outside.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you're underwater. Now, I'm with you, I'm

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Speaker 2: with you. That's definitely not my dream. Why did you

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Speaker 2: dream of that?

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Speaker 20: But anyway, were he fulfilled his dream?

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Speaker 2: Get on him?

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Speaker 4: So yellow submarine by the Beatles.

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Speaker 2: He's now the Defense Minister, isn't he?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: So because we're going to obviously going to go to

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Speaker 2: war at some stage, isn't that?

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Speaker 8: Oh you reckon?

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Speaker 4: He's going to get us something.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just thinking he might be able to add

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Speaker 2: to his dream by actually purchasing our first submarine.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the Ausies are trying really really hard

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Speaker 4: to get those ones off the US and that's taking

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Speaker 4: so you know, we might have forgive him line.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you know what, though, did you not think

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Speaker 2: when you found out that he was a naval officer?

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Speaker 2: Didn't you think of course he was with that face

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Speaker 2: like he has got I don't know why, why is it?

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Speaker 2: Why is it that naval officers all have like a

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Speaker 2: clutch cargo jaw, do you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 2: they just look he looks like a soldier. Maybe that's

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Speaker 2: what it is. Maybe it looks clutch cargo because he's

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Speaker 2: so lean.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it helps when you because you need him to

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Speaker 4: be inspirational, you know, and you need to be able

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Speaker 4: to go. You know, he was what he was, the

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Speaker 4: navigating officer. You need him to be able to confidently

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Speaker 4: say captain, we need you to turn left now, and

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Speaker 4: you need that face to be like, no.

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Speaker 2: You don't need that. In New Zealand because port though,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't say anything like that, and we'll just land

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Speaker 2: on the rocks.

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Speaker 1: Actually that's what we do.

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Speaker 4: We'll just leave it on our apartment anyway.

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Speaker 2: How are the cameras looking, by the way, I mean

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Speaker 2: to tell you, what did I shut it down? I

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Speaker 2: was gonna go and have Oh this is such a

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Speaker 2: fail for me. I apologize.

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Speaker 8: Someone's going to get off for a long weekend.

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Speaker 15: Look at this.

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Speaker 4: I already logging out of the computer.

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Speaker 24: Only a look.

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Speaker 2: How's the cameras looking? Hey, I'll tell you what. The

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Speaker 2: traffic's not that bad. If you're hitting out on East,

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Speaker 2: if you you're probably already on the road for East,

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Speaker 2: do you probably already know this? Traffic's not looking that bad,

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Speaker 2: which obviously is because no one can afford to go

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Speaker 2: anywhere because diesel is twice the price. But anyway, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get a clear run. See you on Tuesday. News

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Speaker 2: Talks E B.

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Speaker 5: Y y.

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Speaker 14: Y as Relieve, I believe everyone of them has already.

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Speaker 5: Learn your dream.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 14: Yell Club Marine.

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Speaker 21: Me Yellow.

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Speaker 23: Yellows, Yells, Yells, Yells, yells.

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