1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Barry so per seen your political correspondence with us A Barry, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: good afternoon. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Had right. 4 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: So this is circular. The circular that Cabinets issued is overdue, 5 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: but finally here. 6 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a ruling and in fact it should never 7 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: have been required, I think, I mean, surely every New 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: Zealander should be treated the same. But you'll remember it 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: was act essentially giving eight percent of their contracts to 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: MALDI providers. This is government contracts and the first of 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: all it was five percent. They upped it to eight 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: percent last year. And of course we saw recently the 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: case in the Hawk's Bay where young people were getting 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: free medical treatment from GPS if they were Maldi or Pacifica. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be the case. And as you said that 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: the circular has been issued by the Cabinet offers and 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: it's essentially saying there should be no ethnicity considered when 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: government contracts are let and that to me should be 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it should have been the case all along, 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: but unfortunately it hasn't been. 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, what do you make of the teachers nicking 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: the school lunches at two of our college? 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Well, you know that's your old college, so you know, 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: I guess. 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: Type why I came out. 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: That's right, that's what they produce. Yeah, it's interesting because 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: the mother had basically complained that two of our college 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: staff were eating lunches and the problem was that the 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: kids wanted to phone home to tell their parents this 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: was happening, but they couldn't do so because phones are 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: now a banned in colleges. 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: They had to go down to the old on the 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: field day. 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: Didn't they go down to the office to get your 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: phone back and say I want to tell on you 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: for eating my lunch. Well they're not going to get 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: their phone back, so they go home hungry. But I've 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: got to say the school Lunch Minister David Seymour, he 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: has seemed to please explain to the. 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: Ministry mostly Sellings. Will be very clear that one of 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: the jobs of teachers is to instill good values in children, 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: show children the difference between right and wrong, and it's 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: very hard for teachers to do that when the teacher 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: themselves is allegedly nicking their lunch and also repressing their 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: ability to seek justice by calling for help when bad 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: things like that happen. So it's certainly something the Ministry 47 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: of Education will be looking into and I look forward 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: in the near future to announcing more details about how 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 3: the healthy school lunch program will continue. I think it's 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: going to be better and cost less, but it's going 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: to be done for the primarily the benefit of the students, 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: not to have it nicked by someone else before it 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: gets to them. 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's his fault, isn't it really, because he's 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: made the lunges more tasty. 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: Ye. 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 4: Well, I mean the thing is, well, this this kind 58 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 4: of thing plays into his hands, right because it will 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: undermine support for the lunches because it will it will 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: absolutely wind a whole bunch of taxpayers up knowing that 61 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: reasonably well paid teachers are getting a nice little gluten 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: free sandwich. 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: Yes, thanks to us. 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: You're more than welcome, right, So it helps his case 65 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: to actually go harder on it. But there's nothing he 66 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: can do about it, because as long as he's rolling 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: out lunches to schools and teachers are hungry and in 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: a bit naughty, they will continue to do it. 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know it's going to continue happening. But they've 70 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: got to do so not at the expense of the kids. 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: And that's the problem. If they're Nikki literally. 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: I can say that as well. What can you do 73 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: about it? 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: Well, if does go home hungry, hopefully they will be 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: reported to the authorities and they'll be moved on. I 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: mean you can't, yes, exactly, they can't go there expecting 77 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: to get their lunch. 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: Okay, quite your harsh punishment, Barry the White Tongue. Why 79 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: not accusing the government of breaching the treaty to strike 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: what eight from the White Tangy Tribunal or what. 81 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: It's incredible really when you think this is the government 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: overturning a Court of appealed decision and that's what's got 83 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: the Whitangi Tribunal very upset. They've put out a report 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: today and they've pointed to a meeting between senior government 85 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: ministers and seafood representatives as one of the many instances 86 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: of the Crown breaching the treaty. With its foreshore and 87 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: seabed changes, they're going to make it harder for Mali 88 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: unless they've got a customary title that goes way back 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: to one forty and you know the changes are quite significant. 90 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: As Paul Goldsmith, who's the Minister in charge of this, 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: he said the notion of extending the distance from the 92 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: shore twelve nautical miles is patently ridiculous. He said, you'd 93 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: have to have a navy to patrol that, and that's true. 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: But what they're going to do is they're going to 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: cut down significantly the number of of customary titles that 96 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: Mary can have power over. But MARII in the end 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: will still have the power, but they won't be able 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: to dictate what is going to happen in that particular zone. 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: Interesting, Barry, thank you very much. Listen. We'll wrap the 100 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: political week that was when you come back later on 101 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: about quarter past six. 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