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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Heard from somebody Ellison out of the All Blacks camp

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Speaker 2: going to open the lines again shortly, but let's bring

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Speaker 2: in former All Blacks half back and a stute rugby

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Speaker 2: analyst commentator and Strawn and overall, how happy do you

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Speaker 2: think the All Blacks coaching staff will be with the

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Speaker 2: eighty minutes in Dublin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say they're extremely happy, Piney, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is this Northern tour well documented now how difficult

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Speaker 3: to figure with the English, the Irish and the French

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Speaker 3: lined up week after each other. This was probably going

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Speaker 3: to be the big test for mine because you know,

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks went great where they against England, that

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Speaker 3: got the job done. This was about making a real

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Speaker 3: statement in Ireland where they've had such a wonderful home record,

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Speaker 3: and I just think, you know, they got so many

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Speaker 3: things right. They resurrected some things from the English game,

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Speaker 3: but also brought some new pieces, new pictures that we

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Speaker 3: haven't probably seen in pretty difficult condition. So I mean

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Speaker 3: they'll be over the moon.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine what were some of the innovations that

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Speaker 2: you saw today that perhaps have been have been kept

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Speaker 2: in the in the locker until now.

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Speaker 3: I thought they went back to a lot of just

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Speaker 3: those kind of single dents, those single carries off rock,

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Speaker 3: just keeping it pretty simple. Initially the rock ball wasn't

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Speaker 3: great for cortiz Artuma, but they got disordered later on.

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Speaker 3: You know, they were just making little dents every time,

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Speaker 3: putting the Irish and pushing them back, and then of

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Speaker 3: course when they went to release the ball out the back,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't the traditional second man plays. It was a

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Speaker 3: little shift and then a short ball, someone coming coming

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Speaker 3: on a different line, changing the line, and then of

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Speaker 3: course when the wisk's done around the corner, they're getting

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Speaker 3: the ball to the edges. And we saw Mark Talia

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Speaker 3: Caleb Clark have good nights with the ball well Jordan

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned before, and also I thought Richer Yowani

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Speaker 3: mate as well. So those backs really starting to contribute

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Speaker 3: in terms of an offensive perspective.

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Speaker 2: What did you see from Ireland in the first twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just ruthless aid breakdown. I mean they've always been

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Speaker 3: a really hard and aggressive team at the breakdown. You

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Speaker 3: know that the chop tackle, the second man arriving and

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Speaker 3: then the third man sometimes when they start barging and

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Speaker 3: getting that counter ruck going. They just didn't want to

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Speaker 3: They just tried to keep trying to slow the balld out,

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Speaker 3: push the envelope at times. And let's be honest, they

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Speaker 3: probably could have been penalized a few more times at breakdown,

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Speaker 3: but they just came ruthlessly, and of course it did.

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Speaker 4: Slow our ball down.

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Speaker 3: And interesting enough, in that second half when we started

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Speaker 3: the clean rucks of it. You know, cam Roygard came on.

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Speaker 3: I thought he played really well as well, but he

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Speaker 3: kick as well. A bit of a transformation here. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: they did a great job the Irish first half at breakdown.

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Speaker 2: Good courtis right to might have done anything differently to

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Speaker 3: I think probably just at the odd time he was

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Speaker 3: he probably just didn't get that quite right. And of

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Speaker 3: course there's so much pressure from the Irish at breakdown,

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Speaker 3: he just had no time really to make the wrong

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Speaker 3: decision and he probably did a couple of times. But

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Speaker 3: of course, you know, the other thing he needs to

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Speaker 3: as we know, mate, we can spray the forwards every

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Speaker 5: It gets messy.

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Speaker 2: Well I'm sure that'll come with time and experience one

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Speaker 2: out from him. You and I have spoken a lot

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Speaker 2: make of his performance today?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know it is a single Test match,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, I thought definitely he came of age. I

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Speaker 3: the week before he came on and did some miraculous thing,

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Speaker 3: some wonderful moments which got the team across the line

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Speaker 3: against England. But the question markers always can he start

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Speaker 3: the game? Can he plot the team around the field

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Speaker 3: with some consistency, you know, the likes We've seen Harry

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Speaker 3: Plummer do it, We've seen Josh Jacob do it. The

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Speaker 3: younger ones coming through. Just stick to script, and I

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Speaker 3: thought that's what he did. He didn't overplay his hand.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of handling ears, I suppose with

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Speaker 3: immense pressure from the Irish, but he put the ball

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Speaker 3: in the right places. He's kicking goals brilliantly, you know,

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Speaker 3: hardly missed the kick, which obviously makes a big difference

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Speaker 3: when the Iris give up so many penalties. But I

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Speaker 3: don't know, he just he seemed like a real solid

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Speaker 3: and that's really encouraging him. I take my hat off

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Speaker 3: to him. And he's always playing under pressure, isn't he,

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Speaker 3: because we're always pushing about whether he's good enough to

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Speaker 3: be there. So yeah, it was a nice, nice shift,

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Speaker 3: as I say, a little bit of a coming of

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Speaker 3: age from he's going to do it again when he's

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Speaker 3: required to, but he should be very proud of their performance.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of Ireland in the last twenty minutes?

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Speaker 2: I know the All Blacks were putting a lot of

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Speaker 2: pressure on and forcing errors, but as were still being made,

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Speaker 2: did it look to you like an Irish side that

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Speaker 2: hasn't played for a few months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, there's I mean, you know, we use the

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Speaker 3: old piece said they were rustiness, isn't it? You know?

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Speaker 3: So just in terms of the attack, they just looked

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Speaker 3: at times. They didn't give themselves enough debt to sort

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Speaker 3: the edges, isn't it. They played to the edges a lot,

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Speaker 3: where they normally wouldn't. So yeah, they just kind of

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Speaker 3: came unstuck. I think as a collective unit, particularly on

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Speaker 2: What did you make of the yellow card for Jordi Barrett.

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Speaker 3: Make my fist look at it. To be honest, I

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Speaker 3: thought he hit his shoulder being you know, in that

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Speaker 3: kind of you know, because of the head class with

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Speaker 3: the initial shoulder contact, I thought.

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Speaker 5: I might be all right.

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Speaker 3: But I guess to the leader of the law, you know,

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Speaker 3: shouldered in head. I mean they're very very precious, which

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Speaker 3: they should be around the head. So look, you could

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Speaker 3: go either way. But I guess that was certainly wasn't

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Speaker 3: a red card. And I mean, you know he got

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Speaker 3: the yellow, so I guess you know that was justice.

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Speaker 4: I suspose yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm struggling with the rule answer. I don't

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Speaker 2: know about you, but because you're looking at it and

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Speaker 2: take another yellow card for the All Blacks. But then

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Speaker 2: you look at it and you say, I don't know

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Speaker 2: about the rule around this yellow card. But there have

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Speaker 2: been yellow cards and consecutive test matches now for the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks. Is it something they'll at least examine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the other thing we've got to remember that,

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Speaker 3: you know a lot of the yellow cards obviously coming

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Speaker 3: to get your technique right and sometimes you don't. And

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Speaker 3: bear in mind that Bundyak he had punched through the middle,

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Speaker 3: got a little offload away, you know. And if you

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Speaker 3: look at Jordi Berrat, he has a split chicken to

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Speaker 3: adjustice footwork to make a tackle, you know. And I

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Speaker 3: don't think that's ever considered. It's just if they get

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Speaker 3: it wrong to the wrong area, they're going to get

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Speaker 3: you know. So sometimes we don't even consider, you know,

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Speaker 3: the timing, and then of course all the mitigating factors

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Speaker 3: about players slipping and falling and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a bit of a mind field pointy,

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Speaker 3: to look after the head and we know how precious

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's no doubt about the motivation for it all.

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Speaker 2: All right? So next week then it's France the All

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Speaker 2: Black scope and with I guess I don't know whether

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Speaker 2: the pressure is off. You might have a view on this.

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Speaker 2: Are they've beaten England, they've beaten Island, go to France.

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Speaker 2: Now you know what sort of mindset will they have

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the ultimate thing for mine is you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's mostly yelleners probably thought that this autumn

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Speaker 3: tour was going to create some losses in the tank,

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Speaker 3: you know, add a few more on well, you know,

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Speaker 3: two and zero. They go to France against a team

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Speaker 3: again that we don't often follow and know a lot about,

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Speaker 3: you know, and they've got so much extravagance, innovative ways

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Speaker 3: to play the game. They're big and strong and physical.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to present another challenge for this All

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Speaker 3: Black group. But the momentum around this group is phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: We spoke about the coaching at the front end of

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Speaker 3: this chat, but the players themselves, you can just start

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Speaker 3: seeing the belief and I mean they're not they're not

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Speaker 3: changing a lot of people. They had two force changes,

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Speaker 3: I would I would say the team unless those two

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Speaker 3: will be pretty similar again, getting some nice consistency of selection,

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Speaker 3: and I know and they know they can step up

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Speaker 3: a little bit more, you know, So maybe the French

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Speaker 3: game presents those opportunities to show a little bit more

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Speaker 3: about what this group has got as they continue to grow.

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Speaker 3: And that's all we've got to be encouraged about point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you want to see the growth in the team,

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Speaker 3: and no better way to test the growth against the

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Speaker 3: very best in their backyard, and that's what we're currently

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Speaker 3: seeing right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great, great observation as always, and Hay,

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Speaker 2: great to talk to you man. Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 2: your weekend always amen.

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Speaker 3: I must say too, wonderful tribute by yourself with Nesbo

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Speaker 3: on Facebook.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eight on that? What else?

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Speaker 2: What do they say? You're only as good as your

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Speaker 10: About Sixton and Ione During the week A lot of

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Speaker 10: Scott Robinson and based it and said, yes, it's very

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Speaker 4: I only to lead the harker.

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Speaker 10: You know, when you're going into a hostile territory.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: It's the stadiums and I set of backing off all

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Speaker 10: you know what I mean, And that's that's a build

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Speaker 10: so that is what he has added was symbolic in

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Speaker 2: He realizes Scott robertson that as well as having to

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Speaker 2: there is a bit of heat. I just I you know,

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Speaker 2: I just loved that we beat Ireland. As an All

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Speaker 2: I was more interested in this game today than I

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Speaker 2: all they all Johnny Sexton's done since that quarterfinal is

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Speaker 2: We're in your head, Johnny, aren't we We're in your

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Speaker 1: This, the Big Issues on and after Fields call Oh

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Speaker 2: Twelve twenty five. Talking All Blacks Isreland twenty three thirteen.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, Nix says Jason, Barrett and

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Speaker 2: Taylor are the incumbents at first five and Hooker. They

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Speaker 2: You know, through no fold of their own. You're right

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Speaker 5: Hello Ben, Hey, Poonty, how are you mean?

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Speaker 10: Ben?

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Speaker 2: I wrote that down. Oh yeah, I wrote that down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just he stood up his a look on

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Speaker 5: with it, Get on with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get on with it, mate. Indeed that it's been mate,

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Speaker 2: At least win the line out first, score some points

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Speaker 2: that was I thought that was a good venuea celebrating

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Speaker 2: Now you've got you there, so you can Jimmy, I've

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Speaker 12: Sorry, just just trying to mold the lawns and talk

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Speaker 12: You know, they're just continuing to improve week by week

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I think rises always like them at fifteen,

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Speaker 2: to break that record. What would you do next week?

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Speaker 2: What would you do next week at first five? Jamie?

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Speaker 12: Oh, I mean, I haven't been that. I haven't been

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Speaker 12: But yeah, maybe you you lose a lot either way.

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Speaker 2: On Jamie being on mate, Yeah, back to the lawn's mate.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hold you up too long, you'll

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Speaker 2: get yourself in trouble. Thanks for calling, and they made

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Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of the afternoon. You're right. Did Stephen

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Speaker 2: I didn't see him go on unless it was right

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Speaker 2: at the end. George Bell went on for twenty seven seconds.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just leave us for one more,

435
00:20:31,787 --> 00:20:34,507
Speaker 2: on for another thirty seconds. It's almost it's not an insult.

436
00:20:34,547 --> 00:20:36,347
Speaker 2: I don't know it's a but George Bell will get

437
00:20:36,347 --> 00:20:40,507
Speaker 2: a test cap for that. Nothing against him. Good on him,

438
00:20:40,987 --> 00:20:44,867
Speaker 2: you know, for chalking up another appearance. But I think

439
00:20:44,907 --> 00:20:46,427
Speaker 2: it was twenty seven seconds.

440
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Speaker 14: Hello Peter, Hey, how you doing there?

441
00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:53,027
Speaker 5: Very good?

442
00:20:54,427 --> 00:21:00,187
Speaker 14: Not a stunning spectacle of a game, but a great armysolt.

443
00:20:59,747 --> 00:21:01,307
Speaker 5: I thought, yep.

444
00:21:02,147 --> 00:21:04,667
Speaker 14: And what I thought was funny is we've been seeing

445
00:21:05,347 --> 00:21:10,027
Speaker 14: the the Irish. They've been trying to play their wide

446
00:21:10,107 --> 00:21:14,587
Speaker 14: expensive news deal inside again and we want to know

447
00:21:14,707 --> 00:21:15,787
Speaker 14: where we gets its guilties.

448
00:21:18,547 --> 00:21:22,387
Speaker 2: Yeah, may right, Peter. We're up in the Northern Hemisphere.

449
00:21:22,427 --> 00:21:24,827
Speaker 2: We always accused them, don't we have going up in threes?

450
00:21:25,187 --> 00:21:26,427
Speaker 2: That's exactly what we did.

451
00:21:27,307 --> 00:21:32,387
Speaker 14: Exactly, And I don't see it's a bed louses becauses.

452
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Speaker 14: I thought discipline was great. There is one thing I'd

453
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Speaker 14: change for the team next week, which you may have

454
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Speaker 14: when I talked about, and that's a funny.

455
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Speaker 2: Happy Yeah, I'd make a change there, Peter. I'd bring

456
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Speaker 2: Roy Garden. I like Corti's Latona. I like him a lot,

457
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Speaker 2: and I thought it was ironic that the thing that

458
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Speaker 2: most people have earmarked about him, his speed of clearance

459
00:21:56,307 --> 00:21:58,587
Speaker 2: from the ruck, was something he didn't do well today,

460
00:21:58,707 --> 00:22:00,547
Speaker 2: again through no file of his own. But I'd be

461
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Speaker 2: the same, Peter. I'd be starting Roy Garden in Paris.

462
00:22:03,227 --> 00:22:06,587
Speaker 14: I thought Roy Gard was good at the breakdown, at

463
00:22:06,707 --> 00:22:07,867
Speaker 14: fighting to get the ball out.

464
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Speaker 7: He was good at moving the ball.

465
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Speaker 14: But his box kicks were just incredible, weren't they.

466
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Speaker 15: He's got a.

467
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Speaker 2: Made boot on him. Yeah, he's got a consistance.

468
00:22:19,307 --> 00:22:24,667
Speaker 14: Absolutely, He'd be my my stating heartbeat going forward, you know,

469
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Speaker 14: from now on. I mean, I think Courtiers has still

470
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Speaker 14: got some things to work on, especially his decision Makman

471
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Speaker 14: kicking from the base. But yeah, he was definitely, I mean,

472
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Speaker 14: the man was your best player, courts Rather and I

473
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Speaker 14: hate to make this claim, but I think he was

474
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Speaker 14: your worst fan out there.

475
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Speaker 2: Who's court you Saint Courtez.

476
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I say Cortez was probably Will out there.

477
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

478
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Speaker 2: I just think he had a difficult night, Peter, and

479
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Speaker 2: look that's no again, a lot of it was through

480
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Speaker 2: no fall of his own, the way that the Irish

481
00:22:58,427 --> 00:23:02,427
Speaker 2: monstered us at collision time, particularly early in the game. Look,

482
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Speaker 2: I think I think the Cameroy Guard, Courtez laught and

483
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Speaker 2: add Noah Hope them into that. I think those three

484
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Speaker 2: over this World Cup cycle to come, and there'll be

485
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Speaker 2: others who put their hand up as well. I think

486
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Speaker 2: it's a terrific cohort of halfbacks when once they build it.

487
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Speaker 2: I mean it feels to me it's like Cam roy

488
00:23:15,907 --> 00:23:19,667
Speaker 2: Guard's already not the finished article, but already a terrific

489
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Speaker 2: test halfback. Cortes he'll learn as he goes. He's had

490
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Speaker 2: a good year, you know, getting he's got, he's got

491
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Speaker 2: games under his belt. I mean, the roy Guard of

492
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Speaker 2: Utima one two punch is going to be really powerful

493
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Speaker 2: for us.

494
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Speaker 14: It will be absolutely absolutely. I just think, you know,

495
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Speaker 14: roy Guard is going to be better at the start

496
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Speaker 14: of the set up the game, and Radham will be

497
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Speaker 14: far more effective in the tiring opposition.

498
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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Pete up. We're on the same page when

499
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Speaker 2: it comes to our half backs. I get the feeling

500
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Speaker 2: that the Your Black selectors will do the same thing.

501
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Speaker 2: Whether they decide to gay a game that might wait

502
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Speaker 2: until the game against Itilian Turin. I think they'll flick

503
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Speaker 2: them around for next week. Eight one hundred and eighty

504
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Speaker 2: ten eighty. Enjoying your chat on the All Black.

505
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Speaker 7: Hello, Vinnie, Hey, how's it going?

506
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Speaker 9: Very good?

507
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Speaker 2: Vinnie?

508
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Speaker 16: Can hear me?

509
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Speaker 9: Can you hear me?

510
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Speaker 2: Okay there, mate, you're right, you're on the air.

511
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I can hear now, awesome, can hear me?

512
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Speaker 12: I can?

513
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Speaker 15: Oh, yeah, awesome. I gotta I gotta compliment. Yeah, I

514
00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:23,387
Speaker 15: gotta compliment regard on his performance today. But I got

515
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Speaker 15: to give it up to up to because I'll Gibson

516
00:24:26,587 --> 00:24:31,067
Speaker 15: wasn't giving them any any space to breathe because on

517
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Speaker 15: the scrum, Gibson was right in his face from the

518
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Speaker 15: start all the way until he came off. There was

519
00:24:36,947 --> 00:24:38,507
Speaker 15: a bit of he was a bit of muck ups.

520
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Speaker 15: But yeah, I was giving him heat myself. But yeah,

521
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Speaker 15: I gotta, I've gotta give it to I wasn't a

522
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Speaker 15: night to night, but.

523
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Speaker 2: You're right, about jameson Gibson Park then he he I mean,

524
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Speaker 2: he's become a top quality half back, hasn't he? And

525
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Speaker 2: no doubt he would have been you know, right up

526
00:24:54,427 --> 00:24:56,667
Speaker 2: you could you could see the refereend Nick Barry, couldn't

527
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Speaker 2: you saying you know number nine, number nine? You getting

528
00:24:58,507 --> 00:24:59,947
Speaker 2: a bit closer? You know, he was right up on

529
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Speaker 2: the line, wasn't he a scrum time just right up

530
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Speaker 2: against the you know, the the edge of the law

531
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Speaker 2: and making it difficult of court is Latimer.

532
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Speaker 15: That's exactly it. He's got that first ten minutes of

533
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Speaker 15: the game where he can kind of do as much

534
00:25:13,547 --> 00:25:16,587
Speaker 15: legal things that you can and then pretty much you

535
00:25:16,707 --> 00:25:18,707
Speaker 15: back off after the roof stay hey, no more of that,

536
00:25:18,867 --> 00:25:24,227
Speaker 15: no more good time. So yeah, I thought that was awesome,

537
00:25:25,627 --> 00:25:29,187
Speaker 15: beautiful but defending lineup beautiful.

538
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Speaker 11: I love that.

539
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Speaker 15: I love seeing my Ford Pexx work. It's bloody awesome.

540
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason right will be pleased for me. I think

541
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Speaker 2: I think the set piece was really good. The scrum

542
00:25:37,627 --> 00:25:39,587
Speaker 2: I think he held its own and line up we

543
00:25:39,627 --> 00:25:41,267
Speaker 2: stole a few of theirs. We had that one not

544
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Speaker 2: straight again, I thought one more, you know, had had

545
00:25:45,747 --> 00:25:48,387
Speaker 2: a good game. He maybe probably wasn't quite quite as

546
00:25:48,427 --> 00:25:50,187
Speaker 2: prominent and the loose as he normally is what we

547
00:25:50,547 --> 00:25:52,427
Speaker 2: know of oursel more, the way he runs with ball

548
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:54,707
Speaker 2: in hand today, it was really his core roles. I

549
00:25:54,707 --> 00:25:57,387
Speaker 2: thought he was, you know, for the most part across

550
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Speaker 2: eighty minutes or thereabouts, was really good at.

551
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I totally agree with him. It was awesome.

552
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Speaker 5: It was awesome.

553
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Speaker 15: He looked a lot more happier, a little bit so

554
00:26:07,507 --> 00:26:09,547
Speaker 15: for t Leah. He looked a little bit hungry for

555
00:26:09,667 --> 00:26:12,147
Speaker 15: the board but not getting said no, I.

556
00:26:12,147 --> 00:26:16,547
Speaker 2: Don't mean yeah, yeah, the wingers. It must be because

557
00:26:16,667 --> 00:26:18,547
Speaker 2: the game was played so much in the middle, wasn't

558
00:26:18,587 --> 00:26:21,027
Speaker 2: it there? There wasn't a bit wide much really at all.

559
00:26:21,707 --> 00:26:23,307
Speaker 2: I can remember a couple of times. I think Tilly

560
00:26:23,427 --> 00:26:26,307
Speaker 2: had one run in the first half, I think down

561
00:26:26,347 --> 00:26:28,307
Speaker 2: the right hand side where he was similar to last

562
00:26:28,307 --> 00:26:30,027
Speaker 2: week when he got that try, but he couldn't manage

563
00:26:30,067 --> 00:26:33,147
Speaker 2: at this time. But yeah, he and Clark, the Borders didn't.

564
00:26:33,187 --> 00:26:34,987
Speaker 2: The Borders didn't find its way out much past center,

565
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:36,467
Speaker 2: did it really, or even past second five?

566
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Speaker 15: Yeah? Yeah, But also our boys in the mid battles awesome, awesome.

567
00:26:44,947 --> 00:26:47,307
Speaker 15: I was a bit worried here and there but they

568
00:26:47,627 --> 00:26:50,147
Speaker 15: stood there ground. It took a whole lot of boards

569
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Speaker 15: from from Ireland themselves. Good.

570
00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,907
Speaker 2: A lot to like, Vinite, Yeah, a lot to like, mate,

571
00:26:55,907 --> 00:26:57,787
Speaker 2: good to see indeed, good to chet Tom. Thanks for

572
00:26:57,867 --> 00:27:01,147
Speaker 2: calling in eight hundred ten eighty. Let's keep going, Ralph,

573
00:27:01,187 --> 00:27:01,787
Speaker 2: Hi mate.

574
00:27:02,747 --> 00:27:04,867
Speaker 5: Hang on Barny, good Ralph.

575
00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:08,987
Speaker 7: Just a couple of things I want to talk about.

576
00:27:10,147 --> 00:27:12,867
Speaker 7: I was a little bit shock. I saw the two

577
00:27:12,947 --> 00:27:16,547
Speaker 7: lineups and they started full of game. Have you look

578
00:27:16,587 --> 00:27:18,747
Speaker 7: at the lineups compared to when we last played them.

579
00:27:19,267 --> 00:27:21,347
Speaker 7: They're missing a couple of guys, obviously Johnny Sex, and

580
00:27:21,387 --> 00:27:23,267
Speaker 7: it's a massive loss for them. But you look at

581
00:27:23,267 --> 00:27:25,547
Speaker 7: the guys we've lost since the World Cup, and to

582
00:27:25,667 --> 00:27:28,587
Speaker 7: do that in Dublin, I mean full credit to the

583
00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:29,187
Speaker 7: whole quote.

584
00:27:31,467 --> 00:27:33,387
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe that's been overlooked a little bit.

585
00:27:33,427 --> 00:27:35,307
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have made the point,

586
00:27:35,827 --> 00:27:38,707
Speaker 2: Ralph about the players who have left since last year,

587
00:27:38,787 --> 00:27:40,827
Speaker 2: and you're right. You look, I think what I obviously

588
00:27:40,867 --> 00:27:42,427
Speaker 2: came off the bench last time, didn't he in that

589
00:27:42,787 --> 00:27:46,427
Speaker 2: quarter final? A white lock Retallic, Aaron Smith, Richie Moonger,

590
00:27:47,307 --> 00:27:49,187
Speaker 2: Jenniferzelle I think would have played in that Test match.

591
00:27:49,227 --> 00:27:52,187
Speaker 2: So that you're right, it's a it's quite a different side.

592
00:27:53,187 --> 00:27:56,067
Speaker 7: It's not insignificant. And I mean even some of these

593
00:27:56,107 --> 00:27:58,067
Speaker 7: guys that you know that like you get the likes

594
00:27:58,107 --> 00:28:02,787
Speaker 7: of sneakers that have only played in a handful of games,

595
00:28:03,267 --> 00:28:06,027
Speaker 7: to stand up like that a week after playing England

596
00:28:06,067 --> 00:28:08,587
Speaker 7: and and flipping them like you go back a month

597
00:28:08,827 --> 00:28:11,507
Speaker 7: when we're talking about these guys leaving before they went

598
00:28:11,547 --> 00:28:14,067
Speaker 7: to Japan. What have you picked that they would be

599
00:28:14,107 --> 00:28:15,467
Speaker 7: three from three on the Northern Tour?

600
00:28:15,587 --> 00:28:15,707
Speaker 17: Now?

601
00:28:16,667 --> 00:28:20,267
Speaker 2: Nope, noun Nina did I?

602
00:28:20,467 --> 00:28:22,547
Speaker 7: And I mean we can say, okay, we were lucky

603
00:28:22,627 --> 00:28:24,067
Speaker 7: to get away with it from England and you know,

604
00:28:24,867 --> 00:28:27,587
Speaker 7: you know, but you can only play who's in front

605
00:28:27,587 --> 00:28:29,707
Speaker 7: of you and to be three from three, particularly the

606
00:28:29,787 --> 00:28:32,867
Speaker 7: last two games. I mean, if we if we do

607
00:28:32,987 --> 00:28:35,587
Speaker 7: battle against France and then getting tipped up, they can

608
00:28:35,627 --> 00:28:37,387
Speaker 7: still all hold their heads high. I mean, what are

609
00:28:37,427 --> 00:28:39,547
Speaker 7: we aiming for twenty seven that week?

610
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

611
00:28:40,947 --> 00:28:43,867
Speaker 2: No, you're right, And Ralph, I fully expected us at

612
00:28:44,067 --> 00:28:46,827
Speaker 2: you know today, at twelve thirty nine, on the ninth

613
00:28:46,867 --> 00:28:49,187
Speaker 2: of November, to have lost one of the two previous

614
00:28:49,907 --> 00:28:52,427
Speaker 2: I just thought we'd blues either to England or to Ireland.

615
00:28:53,267 --> 00:28:55,587
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that you're going into the den, you're

616
00:28:55,587 --> 00:28:58,507
Speaker 7: playing them in front of their rabid fans and coming

617
00:28:58,547 --> 00:29:00,947
Speaker 7: off a short turn around this morning as well, you know,

618
00:29:01,067 --> 00:29:03,107
Speaker 7: Friday night. I don't know how they managed to wrangle

619
00:29:03,147 --> 00:29:05,147
Speaker 7: that one did a Friday night test, but they seem

620
00:29:05,227 --> 00:29:09,907
Speaker 7: to do it. It's just I think, I think, you know,

621
00:29:10,067 --> 00:29:12,427
Speaker 7: give credit to the players and the coaching group. I mean,

622
00:29:12,867 --> 00:29:16,227
Speaker 7: we've yet we lost to the box twice again, pretty

623
00:29:16,267 --> 00:29:19,627
Speaker 7: close losses Argentina was probably a little bit of of

624
00:29:19,707 --> 00:29:21,907
Speaker 7: an anomaly, unexpected.

625
00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:23,507
Speaker 15: But I mean, if we're.

626
00:29:23,347 --> 00:29:26,227
Speaker 7: Thinking this is the first year this coaching group, with

627
00:29:26,307 --> 00:29:29,987
Speaker 7: this playing group speaking that I'm looking forward to the

628
00:29:30,187 --> 00:29:32,307
Speaker 7: next year, the year after and in twenty twenty seven.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about twenty twenty seven, Ralph, you know,

630
00:29:34,987 --> 00:29:37,587
Speaker 2: you think about the three test matches we all hope

631
00:29:37,627 --> 00:29:41,107
Speaker 2: we'll finish twenty twenty seven, and that's an All Blacks quarterfinal,

632
00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:43,747
Speaker 2: semi final final. Look, we might have just had our

633
00:29:43,787 --> 00:29:46,347
Speaker 2: quarterfinal in our semi final, you know, and look forward

634
00:29:46,347 --> 00:29:48,147
Speaker 2: to our final next week. If we if we're chatting

635
00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:49,707
Speaker 2: in three years time, you and the made, I'll be

636
00:29:49,707 --> 00:29:51,387
Speaker 2: pretty happy if we're looking forward to a game.

637
00:29:51,267 --> 00:29:54,507
Speaker 7: Next week Oh, it'll be absolutely fantastic. I'll put on

638
00:29:54,587 --> 00:29:55,387
Speaker 7: the calendar.

639
00:29:56,667 --> 00:30:00,267
Speaker 2: To man Rael stuff. I will too, Mate, I will too.

640
00:30:00,707 --> 00:30:02,427
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

641
00:30:02,507 --> 00:30:04,147
Speaker 2: eighty twelve forty is the time back with more of

642
00:30:04,227 --> 00:30:04,947
Speaker 2: your calls after.

643
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Speaker 1: This Wowach Cold Engage weekends for It with Jason Him

644
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Speaker 1: and JIMJ. Gunderholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News

645
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646
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Speaker 2: Twelve forty three. Homer says, I'm the biggest sam Kin

647
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Speaker 2: fan out there, but I'd start Artie at seven and

648
00:30:20,507 --> 00:30:22,427
Speaker 2: Wallace at eight next week. That's our future. We have

649
00:30:22,507 --> 00:30:24,387
Speaker 2: to embrace it. Otherwise they're not going to do that.

650
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Speaker 2: Keep the same team. Thanks for your text, Hamish, Hello.

651
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Speaker 11: Brad, Yeah, what your piney look?

652
00:30:30,867 --> 00:30:33,627
Speaker 8: Great game today from the ABS. I just think with

653
00:30:33,787 --> 00:30:37,107
Speaker 8: Damien McKenzie, he has had that game in him for

654
00:30:37,187 --> 00:30:39,227
Speaker 8: a long time. There was no doubt that he was

655
00:30:39,427 --> 00:30:41,947
Speaker 8: raised as man at the start of the season and

656
00:30:42,107 --> 00:30:45,387
Speaker 8: that time in the chair through the Winter Internationals has

657
00:30:45,507 --> 00:30:47,627
Speaker 8: just culminated in that performance.

658
00:30:47,187 --> 00:30:48,547
Speaker 15: Today where he's put it all together.

659
00:30:48,947 --> 00:30:49,587
Speaker 10: So well done.

660
00:30:49,787 --> 00:30:52,107
Speaker 8: You know, raisor Robinson for giving him that crack at

661
00:30:52,147 --> 00:30:53,707
Speaker 8: the start of the season and then when he had

662
00:30:53,747 --> 00:30:57,387
Speaker 8: to step up today he certainly did. I think half back.

663
00:30:57,587 --> 00:31:00,467
Speaker 8: You know, a few question marks there about Cortez. Yes,

664
00:31:00,547 --> 00:31:03,147
Speaker 8: he was under pressure a lot at rut time, but

665
00:31:03,267 --> 00:31:05,587
Speaker 8: I feel that his lack of speed and clearing that

666
00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:08,547
Speaker 8: ball just gave the Irs the opportunity to put the

667
00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:10,587
Speaker 8: second shove on it the ruck and put us under

668
00:31:10,667 --> 00:31:14,147
Speaker 8: more pressure. So again I'm certainly with roy guard for

669
00:31:14,227 --> 00:31:14,747
Speaker 8: next week.

670
00:31:15,147 --> 00:31:17,267
Speaker 15: You know, we've spoken. I've heard a lot of people, you.

671
00:31:17,307 --> 00:31:19,547
Speaker 8: Know, give us praise today. The scrum and the line

672
00:31:19,547 --> 00:31:22,947
Speaker 8: out were great, but one point on set piece and

673
00:31:23,027 --> 00:31:25,267
Speaker 8: it pains me to say this, but it was almost

674
00:31:25,347 --> 00:31:30,267
Speaker 8: Crusaders like clinical was the kickoffs. You know, when you

675
00:31:30,947 --> 00:31:33,307
Speaker 8: kick six penalties, you're going to be receiving a lot

676
00:31:33,347 --> 00:31:36,347
Speaker 8: of kickoffs and when you do that you must exit. Well,

677
00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:38,867
Speaker 8: now they stuck Jordy Barrett under those kirkoffs that went

678
00:31:38,947 --> 00:31:41,667
Speaker 8: down the middle and a lot sort of covered the sideline.

679
00:31:41,947 --> 00:31:44,707
Speaker 8: But that second half when we were knocking penalties over,

680
00:31:45,067 --> 00:31:48,347
Speaker 8: our ability to retain position from the kickoff and exit

681
00:31:48,867 --> 00:31:51,187
Speaker 8: was crucial enough to give them a sniff and sort

682
00:31:51,187 --> 00:31:53,587
Speaker 8: of you know, come back with points straight away. So

683
00:31:53,827 --> 00:31:57,627
Speaker 8: you know, just those simple things like those those kickoffs

684
00:31:57,627 --> 00:32:00,627
Speaker 8: and those exits I think certainly helped us a long

685
00:32:00,707 --> 00:32:03,627
Speaker 8: way to just shutting them out of that game. And yeah,

686
00:32:03,707 --> 00:32:04,707
Speaker 8: fantastic performance.

687
00:32:05,587 --> 00:32:07,627
Speaker 2: You have three good points, Brad. That well, that last

688
00:32:07,667 --> 00:32:10,307
Speaker 2: one is interesting because that hasn't been the hallmark of

689
00:32:10,347 --> 00:32:11,987
Speaker 2: this All Blacks team this year. They've and that in

690
00:32:12,067 --> 00:32:15,347
Speaker 2: fact had some real issues exiting not just from kickoffs

691
00:32:15,387 --> 00:32:18,027
Speaker 2: but from you know, set play inside their own twenty two.

692
00:32:18,147 --> 00:32:21,307
Speaker 2: You're right, the place today were really good and on rutima.

693
00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:24,947
Speaker 2: Interesting you say that because that was that's a hallmark

694
00:32:24,987 --> 00:32:27,067
Speaker 2: of his game, right is speed is the speed of

695
00:32:27,107 --> 00:32:29,147
Speaker 2: his clearance from the ruck. I just think maybe he

696
00:32:29,227 --> 00:32:31,747
Speaker 2: was just a bit rattled by the Irish physicality this morning.

697
00:32:31,787 --> 00:32:34,707
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, I agree he was.

698
00:32:34,827 --> 00:32:37,107
Speaker 15: It's not all his fault, but I think he'd be

699
00:32:37,187 --> 00:32:37,827
Speaker 15: the first to put.

700
00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:39,627
Speaker 8: His hand up and say that wasn't his best game.

701
00:32:40,347 --> 00:32:41,867
Speaker 8: But it just goes to show that, you know, the

702
00:32:41,987 --> 00:32:44,107
Speaker 8: backs of those sports that are lining up from that

703
00:32:44,267 --> 00:32:45,867
Speaker 8: ruck to do the next thing when he looks up

704
00:32:45,907 --> 00:32:48,307
Speaker 8: and wants them to be ready. I think sometimes when

705
00:32:48,347 --> 00:32:50,827
Speaker 8: he was looking up to clear it, perhaps they weren't,

706
00:32:52,027 --> 00:32:54,707
Speaker 8: you know, waiting for a five four three two one user.

707
00:32:56,627 --> 00:32:59,347
Speaker 8: It's like a you know, you're giving the opposition that opportunity.

708
00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:01,507
Speaker 8: They know exactly when you're going to clear it, and

709
00:33:01,627 --> 00:33:04,707
Speaker 8: it puts you under more pressure. But yeah, look he'll

710
00:33:04,747 --> 00:33:06,787
Speaker 8: come back. But look, you know he didn't played that

711
00:33:06,827 --> 00:33:09,187
Speaker 8: well last week. You need a storming game. This week

712
00:33:09,387 --> 00:33:12,027
Speaker 8: was superb, you know, but a real maturity to that

713
00:33:12,107 --> 00:33:14,707
Speaker 8: performance today to show that we can put it with

714
00:33:14,787 --> 00:33:16,987
Speaker 8: the big boys up north and almost beat them at

715
00:33:16,987 --> 00:33:17,547
Speaker 8: their own game.

716
00:33:17,587 --> 00:33:21,787
Speaker 2: I thought today good points well mate, Brad, thanks mate, Yeah,

717
00:33:21,827 --> 00:33:24,267
Speaker 2: well thought out and I'm nodding my head in agreement

718
00:33:24,307 --> 00:33:26,227
Speaker 2: at all of it. Ah eight one hundred and eighty

719
00:33:26,307 --> 00:33:30,667
Speaker 2: ten eighties our numberless keep going, hello, Roger, good thanks,

720
00:33:31,227 --> 00:33:33,827
Speaker 2: yeah point, Roger just turned that. Yeah I'm Roger on

721
00:33:33,907 --> 00:33:36,187
Speaker 2: good Mate radio down talk to me mate.

722
00:33:36,067 --> 00:33:38,467
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've turned it off mate, Thank you, Hey, thanks

723
00:33:38,507 --> 00:33:39,507
Speaker 13: for being such a great guy.

724
00:33:39,627 --> 00:33:39,827
Speaker 10: Mate.

725
00:33:40,347 --> 00:33:44,147
Speaker 13: I heard a wonderful morning. My pre match was wed

726
00:33:44,227 --> 00:33:46,107
Speaker 13: sprang for a couple of hours of the fifteen kiloed

727
00:33:46,387 --> 00:33:49,747
Speaker 13: backpack up marching up and down the older driveway and

728
00:33:49,827 --> 00:33:54,867
Speaker 13: that mate, but made I'll just work myself into a frenzy.

729
00:33:54,947 --> 00:33:57,787
Speaker 13: But you know your argument on nine ten by previous squad.

730
00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:00,627
Speaker 13: I think stress those Irish sports were hitting hard early,

731
00:34:00,707 --> 00:34:02,787
Speaker 13: they were knocking to have big boys back. Yeah, ro

732
00:34:02,947 --> 00:34:05,307
Speaker 13: Guard was better when he came on, but he's rucking

733
00:34:05,787 --> 00:34:09,547
Speaker 13: some pressure. I think ten Hey McKenzie's thought he had

734
00:34:09,587 --> 00:34:11,867
Speaker 13: a good game. But I think we're looking to brought

735
00:34:11,907 --> 00:34:13,667
Speaker 13: to the World Cup. You know, I think Raydon might

736
00:34:13,707 --> 00:34:15,507
Speaker 13: have caught up as sleeve. I reckon he's going to

737
00:34:15,507 --> 00:34:18,507
Speaker 13: bring Richie back into the mix. Boden's done a great

738
00:34:18,627 --> 00:34:21,547
Speaker 13: job and transition. I think our probably position of worry

739
00:34:21,627 --> 00:34:24,467
Speaker 13: for the future of seven because Sammy has just done

740
00:34:24,507 --> 00:34:27,667
Speaker 13: such an amazing job. I just don't we just need

741
00:34:27,827 --> 00:34:29,947
Speaker 13: we just need someone coming through it seven May and

742
00:34:30,027 --> 00:34:33,827
Speaker 13: I think in thirteen and I hope maybe hopefully prompt

743
00:34:33,827 --> 00:34:36,467
Speaker 13: the Jensus chance. But I think brought in towards the

744
00:34:36,507 --> 00:34:38,827
Speaker 13: World Cup, I think we should be worrying about positions

745
00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:42,027
Speaker 13: are concerned and for me they are seven and thirteen. Mate,

746
00:34:42,067 --> 00:34:43,947
Speaker 13: For do you reckon seven?

747
00:34:44,627 --> 00:34:47,907
Speaker 2: Seven? Absolutely? Seven? Absolutely, Roger And I'm just looking at

748
00:34:47,947 --> 00:34:50,227
Speaker 2: the I'm just looking at at the All Blacks year.

749
00:34:50,787 --> 00:34:54,107
Speaker 2: Sam Kine has started the last seven test matches in

750
00:34:54,227 --> 00:34:57,107
Speaker 2: the seven Jersey, so there is no way that there's

751
00:34:57,107 --> 00:34:58,667
Speaker 2: a look to the future there, because as we know,

752
00:34:59,387 --> 00:35:02,107
Speaker 2: he's gone at the end of this year. Dalton Papale

753
00:35:02,307 --> 00:35:04,947
Speaker 2: has had three starts this year, four starts this year

754
00:35:05,027 --> 00:35:08,187
Speaker 2: rather and Ethan black out of the other one. Look,

755
00:35:08,227 --> 00:35:11,267
Speaker 2: I really like Peter Larkeye, but then again, that's my

756
00:35:11,387 --> 00:35:15,947
Speaker 2: Hurricanes Wellington bias coming through. But to your point, at

757
00:35:16,027 --> 00:35:18,387
Speaker 2: some point we're gonna have to They're going to have

758
00:35:18,467 --> 00:35:20,627
Speaker 2: to decide, Okay, who is our at least who are

759
00:35:20,667 --> 00:35:23,267
Speaker 2: our options at seven moving forward? Because at the moment

760
00:35:23,307 --> 00:35:25,307
Speaker 2: it's just Sam Kine and he ain't there beyond the

761
00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:25,907
Speaker 2: end of the year.

762
00:35:26,667 --> 00:35:29,587
Speaker 13: I imagine if Fraser didn't welcome back into the into

763
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:31,227
Speaker 13: the group, I think we could be in real trouble

764
00:35:31,227 --> 00:35:33,067
Speaker 13: at the moment. So let's hope for next year, mate,

765
00:35:33,067 --> 00:35:35,227
Speaker 13: we get La Kai and a few You must hopefully

766
00:35:35,307 --> 00:35:37,947
Speaker 13: that that you know, something has to come or dog

767
00:35:38,107 --> 00:35:40,067
Speaker 13: and just has to step up. I don't know, mat,

768
00:35:40,107 --> 00:35:41,827
Speaker 13: I don't have the answer there, but that'll be a

769
00:35:41,867 --> 00:35:45,267
Speaker 13: next year thing. I would assume, right, how goods.

770
00:35:45,107 --> 00:35:46,907
Speaker 2: The nine o'clock kickoff in the morning, Rode, you get

771
00:35:46,947 --> 00:35:48,787
Speaker 2: the weed stray dune before the game?

772
00:35:49,587 --> 00:35:51,507
Speaker 13: Mate, I'm loving it. I was loving it. I just

773
00:35:51,707 --> 00:35:54,107
Speaker 13: tended to crack beers and just set down, but the

774
00:35:54,187 --> 00:35:56,507
Speaker 13: old meadow was just giving me a hard time. Mate.

775
00:35:57,427 --> 00:36:00,347
Speaker 13: Oh so I've cooked away now actually to the Bunnings,

776
00:36:00,347 --> 00:36:02,947
Speaker 13: and I've I've cracked on mate, I've slipped into the locals.

777
00:36:03,027 --> 00:36:05,507
Speaker 13: So yeah, hey, sorry about that, good.

778
00:36:07,307 --> 00:36:09,587
Speaker 2: Man, Roger. You're a good man. Thanks mate. Good to

779
00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:12,307
Speaker 2: check callback anytime, my friend. Eight hundred and eighty ten eight.

780
00:36:12,307 --> 00:36:14,067
Speaker 2: You've got a couple more nine o'clock kickoff sexually over

781
00:36:14,107 --> 00:36:16,747
Speaker 2: the next two weekends Sundays, of course, but maybe that'll

782
00:36:16,787 --> 00:36:18,827
Speaker 2: work for your whed spraying as well. How often are

783
00:36:18,827 --> 00:36:21,147
Speaker 2: you supposed to weed spray? Do you do it weekly?

784
00:36:21,267 --> 00:36:21,707
Speaker 7: I don't know.

785
00:36:21,867 --> 00:36:25,107
Speaker 4: Hello Dean, Oh, how are you doing all right?

786
00:36:26,187 --> 00:36:26,387
Speaker 2: Good?

787
00:36:26,667 --> 00:36:32,587
Speaker 4: I just wanted to talk about Rattner's game. I thought

788
00:36:32,627 --> 00:36:35,907
Speaker 4: the referee. You know, if you look at it, when

789
00:36:35,947 --> 00:36:39,107
Speaker 4: the referee says use it and it has a half deck,

790
00:36:39,187 --> 00:36:42,187
Speaker 4: you haven't had enough time to organize your forwards to

791
00:36:42,267 --> 00:36:45,947
Speaker 4: butt your your two blocks. And the Irish were quite

792
00:36:46,027 --> 00:36:48,547
Speaker 4: clever and as much soon as the referee said use it,

793
00:36:49,067 --> 00:36:54,067
Speaker 4: they put a nudge on. And I've never really I've

794
00:36:54,147 --> 00:36:57,547
Speaker 4: never really been keen on a referee telling people when

795
00:36:57,747 --> 00:37:01,107
Speaker 4: you know, tell especially your half pick when to use

796
00:37:01,227 --> 00:37:01,587
Speaker 4: the ball.

797
00:37:03,947 --> 00:37:06,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess if they don't, though, Dean,

798
00:37:07,147 --> 00:37:08,947
Speaker 2: then you know, I get what it is. It's like

799
00:37:09,027 --> 00:37:12,027
Speaker 2: a use it or I'm going to penalize you or

800
00:37:12,267 --> 00:37:13,787
Speaker 2: or you know, or give it to the other team.

801
00:37:13,947 --> 00:37:16,547
Speaker 2: So it's it's a it's a useful piece of colms.

802
00:37:16,587 --> 00:37:18,507
Speaker 2: But yeah, as you say, it was the cue for

803
00:37:18,547 --> 00:37:21,187
Speaker 2: the Iris to give it another another shove changed the

804
00:37:21,307 --> 00:37:23,907
Speaker 2: picture for Cortez last to a bit more pressure on him.

805
00:37:24,347 --> 00:37:26,987
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he'd admit he had a challenging

806
00:37:27,227 --> 00:37:28,027
Speaker 2: a challenging game.

807
00:37:29,627 --> 00:37:33,907
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, he just called it. Look, that's only criticism

808
00:37:33,987 --> 00:37:35,867
Speaker 4: I have of the ref. I thought he was I

809
00:37:35,907 --> 00:37:39,747
Speaker 4: thought he was very consistent. But he just he just called.

810
00:37:40,147 --> 00:37:43,307
Speaker 4: He just called. But the other ma not have about

811
00:37:43,387 --> 00:37:45,307
Speaker 4: him as he took too long to set the scrumber,

812
00:37:47,067 --> 00:37:50,747
Speaker 4: but he could. He just didn't give enough time. He

813
00:37:50,987 --> 00:37:53,547
Speaker 4: should look at that ball and see that that's not settled.

814
00:37:54,187 --> 00:37:56,827
Speaker 4: And you know, to some degree anyway, it's just a

815
00:37:56,907 --> 00:38:01,187
Speaker 4: little bit too quick and made made right after Russia's his.

816
00:38:01,347 --> 00:38:04,467
Speaker 2: Game a little Yeah, No, it's a good pointing and

817
00:38:04,627 --> 00:38:06,787
Speaker 2: and something. I'm sure that they'll they'll show OHI and

818
00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:09,747
Speaker 2: the review and come up with a strategy to combat.

819
00:38:10,347 --> 00:38:11,867
Speaker 2: You know, it's not going to be the last time

820
00:38:11,947 --> 00:38:15,547
Speaker 2: that a team tries to disrupt you know, quick ball

821
00:38:15,587 --> 00:38:17,187
Speaker 2: from the base of the All Blacks ruck. They know

822
00:38:17,267 --> 00:38:19,667
Speaker 2: it's a strength of Cortez Latima. I rememb when he

823
00:38:19,707 --> 00:38:21,907
Speaker 2: came on. What was his first test? Was it against

824
00:38:21,947 --> 00:38:25,747
Speaker 2: England up at eden Park? I remember, I remember he

825
00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:29,667
Speaker 2: came on and straight away the speed from the base

826
00:38:29,747 --> 00:38:32,827
Speaker 2: of the ruck was improved massively And that was when

827
00:38:32,867 --> 00:38:35,467
Speaker 2: he was on debull. It was England at eden Park.

828
00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:38,947
Speaker 2: I remember Christie started the test and then Latimer came

829
00:38:38,987 --> 00:38:41,947
Speaker 2: on and straight away we just looked so much better

830
00:38:42,507 --> 00:38:46,587
Speaker 2: from the base of the ruck, and that was his debut.

831
00:38:47,227 --> 00:38:49,827
Speaker 2: Hamid says piney, mate, if you're wheat spraying weekly, you're

832
00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:53,147
Speaker 2: probably doing it wrong. Thanks a look, I will freely

833
00:38:53,187 --> 00:38:56,347
Speaker 2: admit it's not my wheelhouse, mate, it's not my wheelhouse.

834
00:38:56,387 --> 00:38:57,867
Speaker 2: We need Peter wolf Camp for that sort of thing,

835
00:38:57,947 --> 00:39:00,627
Speaker 2: not me. If you're looking for gardening advice, you've come

836
00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:02,947
Speaker 2: to the wrong place. Seven to one new Stalk said be.

837
00:39:04,147 --> 00:39:06,107
Speaker 11: When it's down to the line. You made it a

838
00:39:06,187 --> 00:39:12,187
Speaker 11: call Weegen Sports with Jason Pine News TALKSB.

839
00:39:12,947 --> 00:39:15,827
Speaker 2: Four to one on News TALKSB that our has flown by.

840
00:39:15,907 --> 00:39:18,027
Speaker 2: We're going to open the lines again after one o'clock

841
00:39:18,107 --> 00:39:21,427
Speaker 2: course get an Irish view. Michael Corkran is the voice

842
00:39:21,427 --> 00:39:24,027
Speaker 2: of Irish rugby in many ways. He's called so many

843
00:39:24,107 --> 00:39:27,147
Speaker 2: Test matches and will join us after one o'clock to

844
00:39:27,147 --> 00:39:30,627
Speaker 2: give us an Irish viewpoint. What did he make of

845
00:39:30,707 --> 00:39:34,627
Speaker 2: the first Irish Test for a few months. Yeah, I'd

846
00:39:34,707 --> 00:39:37,067
Speaker 2: be very very keen to get Michael Corkran's view will

847
00:39:37,107 --> 00:39:39,787
Speaker 2: continue to canvas yours as well from Joe will do.

848
00:39:39,947 --> 00:39:43,427
Speaker 2: Damien McKenzie a controlled performance by him. A Moore stood up.

849
00:39:43,587 --> 00:39:45,507
Speaker 2: He worked hard around the park, throwing to the line

850
00:39:45,507 --> 00:39:47,587
Speaker 2: at improved Apart from that one throw. He's a player

851
00:39:47,627 --> 00:39:49,507
Speaker 2: that needs to be playing as much as possible and

852
00:39:49,667 --> 00:39:52,427
Speaker 2: will get better. Razor will be pleased with his effort

853
00:39:52,467 --> 00:39:55,467
Speaker 2: today and the confidence he can now be relied upon.

854
00:39:56,187 --> 00:39:58,347
Speaker 2: Yeah again, As I said at the top of the hour,

855
00:39:58,427 --> 00:40:00,667
Speaker 2: I thought the two standout players for New Zealand today

856
00:40:00,707 --> 00:40:04,867
Speaker 2: were Damien McKenzie and Asuffle al Moore. Michael Corkran with

857
00:40:04,947 --> 00:40:08,827
Speaker 2: an Irish view after one o'clock. Start your journey today

858
00:40:08,867 --> 00:40:11,507
Speaker 2: with a GJ Gardner Home. The team at GJ Gardner

859
00:40:11,547 --> 00:40:14,267
Speaker 2: Homes are great supporters of sport, from grassroots through to

860
00:40:14,347 --> 00:40:17,307
Speaker 2: the main stage. With GJ Gardner, you're dealing with a

861
00:40:17,387 --> 00:40:19,627
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Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

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Speaker 18: They'd be.

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880
00:41:19,427 --> 00:41:21,067
Speaker 2: take a few more calls on the All Blacks. Don't

881
00:41:21,067 --> 00:41:22,707
Speaker 2: delay though, because we are going to move at some

882
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Speaker 2: stage soon. Sherward, thanks for holding.

883
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Speaker 17: Yes, Piney, I just thought I might leave you with

884
00:41:28,507 --> 00:41:31,107
Speaker 17: a little thought for the day. Do you think the

885
00:41:31,187 --> 00:41:34,267
Speaker 17: Scots might be pretty chuffed about beating the Irish today?

886
00:41:37,267 --> 00:41:40,027
Speaker 2: The Scotts might be chuffed about beating the Irish.

887
00:41:40,867 --> 00:41:42,707
Speaker 17: Yes, Scott Robertson and Scott Barrett.

888
00:41:44,987 --> 00:41:47,427
Speaker 2: I thought that's what you meant, Sherwood. I thought that's

889
00:41:47,467 --> 00:41:49,427
Speaker 2: what you meant. I wasn't quite sure. I was trying

890
00:41:49,467 --> 00:41:50,987
Speaker 2: to think if you were being a little bit more

891
00:41:51,067 --> 00:41:55,107
Speaker 2: oblique about things. But yes, I think the Scots, Raiser

892
00:41:55,347 --> 00:41:58,867
Speaker 2: and Barrett will be very pleased about beating the Irish.

893
00:41:59,347 --> 00:42:01,507
Speaker 2: I think they will be. You'd be pretty pleased as well,

894
00:42:01,547 --> 00:42:01,947
Speaker 2: wouldn't you.

895
00:42:02,867 --> 00:42:05,947
Speaker 17: Oh? Yes, very pleased? Who could d ask for better

896
00:42:06,467 --> 00:42:10,027
Speaker 17: in Ireland on their own patch? What a nice thought

897
00:42:10,107 --> 00:42:10,707
Speaker 17: for the day.

898
00:42:12,387 --> 00:42:14,667
Speaker 2: What a lovely thought for the day. Sure, indeed we

899
00:42:14,787 --> 00:42:17,187
Speaker 2: can enjoy it. The Scots will enjoy it. It's a

900
00:42:17,267 --> 00:42:18,067
Speaker 2: very good point you make.

901
00:42:18,147 --> 00:42:21,187
Speaker 7: Hello, Tim, Hey, piny Hey.

902
00:42:21,387 --> 00:42:25,107
Speaker 19: Wasn't it interesting every time the Orblecks made an era.

903
00:42:26,947 --> 00:42:29,707
Speaker 19: I think it was Low that kicked the fifty twenty two.

904
00:42:30,187 --> 00:42:32,107
Speaker 19: That they were just celebrating like they had won a

905
00:42:32,147 --> 00:42:35,467
Speaker 19: game and they were behind on the school board by

906
00:42:35,547 --> 00:42:38,787
Speaker 19: ten points. I thought, man, these guys have just lost it.

907
00:42:38,947 --> 00:42:40,787
Speaker 19: I mean, you've got to look at the school board.

908
00:42:41,467 --> 00:42:42,547
Speaker 19: That's all we needed to say.

909
00:42:44,227 --> 00:42:48,147
Speaker 2: I think I thought they Yeah, sorry, Tom, I just

910
00:42:48,187 --> 00:42:51,987
Speaker 2: want to say, I thought that island. What were they here?

911
00:42:52,067 --> 00:42:55,507
Speaker 2: They were had fifteen and where was they here thirteen

912
00:42:55,667 --> 00:42:57,987
Speaker 2: nine when they scored that try just halfter half time?

913
00:42:58,867 --> 00:43:04,307
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and and converted it and with fourteen men

914
00:43:05,267 --> 00:43:07,267
Speaker 2: for still you know, another seven or eight minutes at

915
00:43:07,307 --> 00:43:10,067
Speaker 2: thirteen to nine ahead, that was their chance.

916
00:43:10,187 --> 00:43:13,827
Speaker 19: I think exactly, mate. And I've got to give a

917
00:43:13,867 --> 00:43:16,787
Speaker 19: big shout out to I suffer Old Moore. I think

918
00:43:16,827 --> 00:43:18,227
Speaker 19: he played nearly eighty minutes, mate.

919
00:43:18,267 --> 00:43:19,787
Speaker 15: He was man for me.

920
00:43:19,987 --> 00:43:22,227
Speaker 19: He was the man of the match. I mean, his

921
00:43:22,467 --> 00:43:27,787
Speaker 19: his ball retention. He must have had about ten ten runs, mate,

922
00:43:27,827 --> 00:43:31,267
Speaker 19: and they were post contact meters too. They weren't easy.

923
00:43:31,547 --> 00:43:33,867
Speaker 19: He only had one way would throw, and even that

924
00:43:34,107 --> 00:43:37,747
Speaker 19: was questionable. But I think for me Ifer Old Moore

925
00:43:38,387 --> 00:43:39,227
Speaker 19: was the man of the match.

926
00:43:41,347 --> 00:43:43,907
Speaker 2: Andy played seventy five minutes last week and you're right

927
00:43:43,947 --> 00:43:45,787
Speaker 2: to him. He got taken off with thirty seconds to go,

928
00:43:45,947 --> 00:43:49,147
Speaker 2: so effectively he played eighty minutes. So back to back,

929
00:43:49,787 --> 00:43:53,027
Speaker 2: seventy five minutes and eighty minutes for a hooker that

930
00:43:53,347 --> 00:43:55,227
Speaker 2: never ever happens, man never happens.

931
00:43:56,347 --> 00:43:58,867
Speaker 19: Just amazing, mate, just amazing. What kind of ticket he has.

932
00:43:59,507 --> 00:44:02,387
Speaker 19: I hope Kurdie Taylor comes back in next week because

933
00:44:02,427 --> 00:44:04,187
Speaker 19: Old will probably need a rest. We've got the big

934
00:44:04,267 --> 00:44:06,707
Speaker 19: Frenchman next week, mate, so if we can get them,

935
00:44:07,347 --> 00:44:09,347
Speaker 19: oh you know, this would just be a blessed time

936
00:44:09,387 --> 00:44:10,467
Speaker 19: for the or blessed.

937
00:44:10,547 --> 00:44:14,387
Speaker 2: Lega indeed, indeed, good on your term. Good good thoughts, mate,

938
00:44:14,387 --> 00:44:16,667
Speaker 2: good thoughts, thanks for calling them in a eight hundred

939
00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:18,467
Speaker 2: and eighty ten out of Yeah. I think that's the thing.

940
00:44:18,507 --> 00:44:20,267
Speaker 2: I guess about a sappho on Moor as well, which

941
00:44:20,547 --> 00:44:23,307
Speaker 2: which probably I should take into my consideration. I talked

942
00:44:23,347 --> 00:44:26,707
Speaker 2: before about how Asaf Moor has earned another start. But

943
00:44:26,827 --> 00:44:28,267
Speaker 2: then you look at him and you say, okay, seventy

944
00:44:28,267 --> 00:44:31,347
Speaker 2: five minutes last week eighty today, maybe you do just say, hey,

945
00:44:31,507 --> 00:44:33,947
Speaker 2: a suffo, you've been terrific, but you know we'll freshen

946
00:44:34,027 --> 00:44:36,107
Speaker 2: you up. Come off the bench again next week, mate,

947
00:44:36,147 --> 00:44:38,387
Speaker 2: do what you do for twenty minutes in that impact

948
00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:40,347
Speaker 2: role with the sixteen on your back. We'll bring Cody

949
00:44:40,427 --> 00:44:42,947
Speaker 2: back in and you know you can.

950
00:44:43,187 --> 00:44:43,467
Speaker 5: You can.

951
00:44:43,867 --> 00:44:48,107
Speaker 2: You've earned the right to become an impact plan next week. Now,

952
00:44:48,147 --> 00:44:50,747
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the same thing applies to Damien mackenzie.

953
00:44:50,827 --> 00:44:54,107
Speaker 2: You might have a view on this whether Damien McKenzie,

954
00:44:54,187 --> 00:45:00,067
Speaker 2: having played this Test match and played it well, should

955
00:45:00,107 --> 00:45:02,507
Speaker 2: keep a spot. I think he should. I mean it's

956
00:45:02,507 --> 00:45:04,747
Speaker 2: probably tough on Boden Barrett, who threw no fault of

957
00:45:04,787 --> 00:45:08,867
Speaker 2: his own this one. Right, you look back at so

958
00:45:09,027 --> 00:45:15,827
Speaker 2: body played the Test against Australia and Wellington, then Mackenzie

959
00:45:15,907 --> 00:45:20,787
Speaker 2: played against Japan, body played last week. So Boden Barratt's

960
00:45:20,787 --> 00:45:23,827
Speaker 2: the incumbent first five. I think we can all agree

961
00:45:23,867 --> 00:45:26,227
Speaker 2: on that that he is at the moment the incumbent

962
00:45:26,667 --> 00:45:31,707
Speaker 2: first choice first five. However, can cast last week, couldn't

963
00:45:31,787 --> 00:45:37,307
Speaker 2: play today, So what do you do then with regards

964
00:45:38,027 --> 00:45:40,507
Speaker 2: to first five next week when Damian Mackenzie had a

965
00:45:40,667 --> 00:45:43,627
Speaker 2: very good game. But do you go back to the

966
00:45:43,667 --> 00:45:46,267
Speaker 2: old mantra of if you miss a game through no

967
00:45:46,387 --> 00:45:50,187
Speaker 2: fault of your own injury or concussion and you're the incumbent,

968
00:45:50,307 --> 00:45:53,707
Speaker 2: you come straight back in. It'll be a conversation to

969
00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:56,427
Speaker 2: be had, no doubt about what they do against France

970
00:45:56,547 --> 00:45:58,547
Speaker 2: next week. I feel like de max E in the

971
00:45:58,627 --> 00:46:02,947
Speaker 2: chance for another game. You know, I thought, I said

972
00:46:03,027 --> 00:46:05,267
Speaker 2: up a couple of times, thought he and our Moore

973
00:46:05,307 --> 00:46:08,587
Speaker 2: were our best players. How did d mac himself feel

974
00:46:08,587 --> 00:46:11,907
Speaker 2: about his game? Well, our Rugby editor and match commentator

975
00:46:11,987 --> 00:46:14,027
Speaker 2: Elliot Smith had the chance to find out. Here is

976
00:46:14,227 --> 00:46:17,507
Speaker 2: Elliot Smith speaking after the game with Damien Mackenzie.

977
00:46:19,307 --> 00:46:22,787
Speaker 13: Damning congratulations on that. When what was it built on tonight.

978
00:46:22,587 --> 00:46:23,147
Speaker 2: For the All Blacks?

979
00:46:24,067 --> 00:46:24,227
Speaker 17: Yeah?

980
00:46:24,267 --> 00:46:27,267
Speaker 20: I think it was built on winning little moments of

981
00:46:27,307 --> 00:46:28,787
Speaker 20: the game and I think we were able to do

982
00:46:28,907 --> 00:46:33,067
Speaker 20: that and pretty much mentioned them up front, particularly with

983
00:46:34,027 --> 00:46:36,827
Speaker 20: our forwards did a really good job and that aspect,

984
00:46:36,907 --> 00:46:39,307
Speaker 20: and I think just for us as drivers, just making

985
00:46:39,307 --> 00:46:40,947
Speaker 20: sure we're putting the ball in front of our thoughts tonight,

986
00:46:40,987 --> 00:46:42,667
Speaker 20: and I think who did a pretty good job of

987
00:46:43,187 --> 00:46:45,507
Speaker 20: creating pressure through our kicking game, and particularly when you're

988
00:46:45,507 --> 00:46:47,707
Speaker 20: playing over here and it's a little bit wet as

989
00:46:47,747 --> 00:46:51,307
Speaker 20: it was tonight. He wanted to make the job as

990
00:46:51,307 --> 00:46:53,387
Speaker 20: easy as possible for our forwards and that was through

991
00:46:53,427 --> 00:46:56,427
Speaker 20: our kicking games. So our thoughts did a great jobs,

992
00:46:56,547 --> 00:47:00,347
Speaker 20: layer awesome platform for us and had great stake with

993
00:47:00,467 --> 00:47:00,667
Speaker 20: the one.

994
00:47:00,787 --> 00:47:03,267
Speaker 7: It felt like you built pressure throughout the game, press

995
00:47:03,307 --> 00:47:04,907
Speaker 7: more so than you've been able to do in recent times.

996
00:47:05,107 --> 00:47:05,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

997
00:47:05,627 --> 00:47:09,667
Speaker 20: I think we had into the ball really well, kick

998
00:47:09,707 --> 00:47:14,067
Speaker 20: well at times, and a few penalties, but obviously put

999
00:47:14,107 --> 00:47:16,987
Speaker 20: ourselves in great areas of the park and and then

1000
00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:20,027
Speaker 20: nailed a couple of kicks, so you know that's we

1001
00:47:20,147 --> 00:47:21,867
Speaker 20: obviously had a short turn around from last weekend and

1002
00:47:21,907 --> 00:47:23,467
Speaker 20: when you had to nail a few things this weekend.

1003
00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:26,627
Speaker 20: There are a great side and playing in the Aviva,

1004
00:47:26,707 --> 00:47:30,307
Speaker 20: it's some atmosphere and you know it's never easy playing

1005
00:47:30,507 --> 00:47:31,467
Speaker 20: to come out in.

1006
00:47:31,627 --> 00:47:33,627
Speaker 2: The last few years win that match.

1007
00:47:34,307 --> 00:47:35,067
Speaker 18: We were really started.

1008
00:47:35,107 --> 00:47:36,507
Speaker 5: How much did you put on that as a team

1009
00:47:36,627 --> 00:47:38,827
Speaker 5: to win and go make a bit of a statement and.

1010
00:47:39,107 --> 00:47:41,947
Speaker 20: Dublin, Yeah, I think it's you know, we're building really

1011
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:45,107
Speaker 20: nicely as a team, and I think it's I guess

1012
00:47:45,107 --> 00:47:47,547
Speaker 20: it's not really about proving a point or making a statement.

1013
00:47:47,587 --> 00:47:50,027
Speaker 20: It's just about making sure we're playing our best rugby

1014
00:47:50,067 --> 00:47:53,907
Speaker 20: and patches here tonight when we saw that, and like

1015
00:47:53,987 --> 00:47:56,227
Speaker 20: I said, in test matches, you've got to win wee moments,

1016
00:47:56,547 --> 00:47:58,947
Speaker 20: and I think we were able to do that. Forwards

1017
00:47:58,987 --> 00:48:01,587
Speaker 20: were outstanding, thanks to the great job as well, and

1018
00:48:02,787 --> 00:48:04,867
Speaker 20: yeah we wrapped.

1019
00:48:06,147 --> 00:48:10,027
Speaker 2: They as Damien Mackenzie understated, as always he never writes

1020
00:48:10,067 --> 00:48:11,867
Speaker 2: the high sue high, does he? Or the low's too

1021
00:48:11,907 --> 00:48:14,867
Speaker 2: low Damien Mackenzie. Maybe that's the secret of it all

1022
00:48:15,027 --> 00:48:17,227
Speaker 2: that he just doesn't get too carried away either way.

1023
00:48:17,747 --> 00:48:20,267
Speaker 2: I think it'd be secretly delighted. I want to hear

1024
00:48:20,267 --> 00:48:23,547
Speaker 2: the thoughts of Scott Raiser Robertson in just a sick

1025
00:48:24,147 --> 00:48:27,947
Speaker 2: Sherwood's call before about the Scotts being the Irish. I've

1026
00:48:28,067 --> 00:48:32,187
Speaker 2: been reminded by Craig there's another one, Scott Hanson as well. Yes, great,

1027
00:48:32,227 --> 00:48:36,227
Speaker 2: you're right, So the Scott's Hanson, Robertson Barrett will be

1028
00:48:36,267 --> 00:48:39,227
Speaker 2: pretty pleased with the way they beat the Irish couple

1029
00:48:39,267 --> 00:48:40,707
Speaker 2: of texts here and we'll get back to the lines

1030
00:48:40,707 --> 00:48:42,827
Speaker 2: in a minute. Bringing the boys back just makes our

1031
00:48:42,867 --> 00:48:46,907
Speaker 2: bench even better next week. The bench has improved, especially

1032
00:48:46,947 --> 00:48:48,867
Speaker 2: with Twey, Pilotsu and Roygard on there.

1033
00:48:49,427 --> 00:48:49,627
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1034
00:48:49,627 --> 00:48:53,827
Speaker 2: Well you know one of d mac or or boar

1035
00:48:53,867 --> 00:48:55,867
Speaker 2: It will be on the bench next week, won't they

1036
00:48:56,067 --> 00:49:01,507
Speaker 2: regardless of what they decide, So bench will be strengthened.

1037
00:49:01,707 --> 00:49:05,747
Speaker 2: Did Stephen Pitifitter get on this morning? I asked that before.

1038
00:49:06,427 --> 00:49:09,147
Speaker 2: He didn't get on? Okay, thanks Andy, Yeah, so you know,

1039
00:49:10,307 --> 00:49:13,587
Speaker 2: I'm glad they didn't. They remember Stephen Paraferer made his

1040
00:49:14,347 --> 00:49:17,027
Speaker 2: All Blacks debut. It was against wasn't it against Ireland

1041
00:49:17,067 --> 00:49:18,667
Speaker 2: last year and he got like something like a minute

1042
00:49:18,707 --> 00:49:20,987
Speaker 2: off the bench. I'm glad they didn't do that to him.

1043
00:49:21,747 --> 00:49:23,867
Speaker 2: George Bell though, got his twenty seven seconds.

1044
00:49:24,747 --> 00:49:24,907
Speaker 15: Now.

1045
00:49:24,947 --> 00:49:26,947
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure why they do that, Richard, I.

1046
00:49:27,067 --> 00:49:31,187
Speaker 5: Make good mate, Sorry, just doing some concerting.

1047
00:49:31,467 --> 00:49:34,427
Speaker 16: Hey, look, the only question about whether you stock a

1048
00:49:34,547 --> 00:49:38,707
Speaker 16: more back on or Barrett. The only reason having that

1049
00:49:38,907 --> 00:49:44,187
Speaker 16: talk recarding Barrett and Mackenzie, it's neither him there completely convincing.

1050
00:49:44,467 --> 00:49:46,387
Speaker 16: If it was Dan Cardi you'd be soing sure he's

1051
00:49:46,427 --> 00:49:49,027
Speaker 16: back on because in neither of these guys have set

1052
00:49:49,067 --> 00:49:52,827
Speaker 16: the world alike at first five, the jury's out. That's

1053
00:49:52,907 --> 00:49:56,427
Speaker 16: my impression of it, and it's a good impression.

1054
00:49:56,467 --> 00:49:57,467
Speaker 2: What about it? What about it? Howker?

1055
00:49:57,507 --> 00:49:57,627
Speaker 15: Then?

1056
00:49:57,747 --> 00:50:00,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, by using that logic, then Richard, Cody Taylor has

1057
00:50:00,347 --> 00:50:02,507
Speaker 2: been one of our best. So you'd have you'd have

1058
00:50:02,587 --> 00:50:03,787
Speaker 2: Cody Taylor coming back in.

1059
00:50:05,067 --> 00:50:07,507
Speaker 16: Yeah, I would surely because of what I was just

1060
00:50:07,547 --> 00:50:10,027
Speaker 16: about to say, what the other guy said, big bet

1061
00:50:10,147 --> 00:50:13,107
Speaker 16: ring Oldham's head over the last two games, and you

1062
00:50:13,147 --> 00:50:15,747
Speaker 16: know he may be better off coming back and halfway

1063
00:50:15,787 --> 00:50:18,907
Speaker 16: through the game, and Cody Taylor as he gets back

1064
00:50:19,987 --> 00:50:21,907
Speaker 16: because he's had a head, noock, half the game might

1065
00:50:21,987 --> 00:50:22,667
Speaker 16: be enough for him.

1066
00:50:25,307 --> 00:50:27,067
Speaker 2: All right, So who are you picking at first five? Then,

1067
00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:28,867
Speaker 2: before you get back to your concreting.

1068
00:50:30,987 --> 00:50:35,267
Speaker 16: Look, I think I would probably give Barrett another run.

1069
00:50:36,787 --> 00:50:39,427
Speaker 16: I still think the mat is a journeyman in that position.

1070
00:50:39,987 --> 00:50:42,307
Speaker 16: I think he's a good all round on the bench

1071
00:50:42,987 --> 00:50:45,987
Speaker 16: for any position in the back line. But he may

1072
00:50:46,027 --> 00:50:48,187
Speaker 16: have had a blinder today, but there's too many where

1073
00:50:48,187 --> 00:50:50,387
Speaker 16: he hasn't had an average game.

1074
00:50:50,627 --> 00:50:54,987
Speaker 2: So that's my thoughts, No valid thoughts, Richard, Thanks mate,

1075
00:50:55,027 --> 00:50:56,907
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling them on appreciate you taking time out

1076
00:50:56,947 --> 00:50:59,507
Speaker 2: of your your busy afternoon to paul Us. Oh, eight

1077
00:50:59,627 --> 00:51:04,187
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number. Um, I've

1078
00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:06,507
Speaker 2: read that one, so I won't read it again, Len,

1079
00:51:06,587 --> 00:51:09,467
Speaker 2: says Jason. That's just the second game of rugby I've

1080
00:51:09,467 --> 00:51:12,107
Speaker 2: watched since the World Cup. I couldn't believe my eyes

1081
00:51:12,187 --> 00:51:13,987
Speaker 2: three days ago when I saw the All Blacks paying

1082
00:51:14,027 --> 00:51:15,427
Speaker 2: two dollars sixty for the win.

1083
00:51:15,787 --> 00:51:16,627
Speaker 15: I had to have some of that.

1084
00:51:17,187 --> 00:51:19,667
Speaker 2: Have they ever paid such a price before, Glenn, I

1085
00:51:19,667 --> 00:51:22,147
Speaker 2: don't think that they have. I was thinking this during

1086
00:51:22,187 --> 00:51:24,707
Speaker 2: the week when I saw these odds. I can't remember

1087
00:51:24,787 --> 00:51:28,027
Speaker 2: a time when the All Backs were playing The All

1088
00:51:28,067 --> 00:51:32,507
Speaker 2: Blacks were paying two dollars sixty on our tab in

1089
00:51:32,587 --> 00:51:35,027
Speaker 2: South Africa, not South Africa Ireland. The meantime a dollar

1090
00:51:35,107 --> 00:51:38,747
Speaker 2: forty seven. Maybe I can't recall the odds when we

1091
00:51:38,827 --> 00:51:42,187
Speaker 2: played South Africa midyear this year, but I don't think

1092
00:51:42,227 --> 00:51:45,547
Speaker 2: it was two sixty plays a dollar forty seven. I'm

1093
00:51:45,587 --> 00:51:46,667
Speaker 2: almost certain that it wasn't.

1094
00:51:47,467 --> 00:51:52,227
Speaker 4: keV, Hi mate, yay, how are keV?

1095
00:51:52,267 --> 00:51:54,307
Speaker 2: I'm great good.

1096
00:51:54,987 --> 00:51:57,467
Speaker 6: I just want to do a shout out to Nurse Bayes.

1097
00:51:58,667 --> 00:52:03,067
Speaker 6: What a what an legend, what an absolute legend. I

1098
00:52:03,147 --> 00:52:05,267
Speaker 6: was just I was smoking the cows this plenty, so

1099
00:52:05,307 --> 00:52:07,107
Speaker 6: I couldn't watch it live and then to go and

1100
00:52:07,187 --> 00:52:10,307
Speaker 6: feed the calves. But I saw him just now and

1101
00:52:10,467 --> 00:52:13,707
Speaker 6: I thought, well, I'll call up honey and say, what

1102
00:52:14,027 --> 00:52:16,107
Speaker 6: are legend? What a genius?

1103
00:52:16,267 --> 00:52:17,187
Speaker 5: What a great guy?

1104
00:52:17,667 --> 00:52:17,787
Speaker 18: Oh?

1105
00:52:17,907 --> 00:52:18,147
Speaker 15: Mate?

1106
00:52:18,267 --> 00:52:18,547
Speaker 17: Is good?

1107
00:52:18,707 --> 00:52:20,107
Speaker 12: Well, well, I would.

1108
00:52:19,907 --> 00:52:23,147
Speaker 5: Say equal to Keith Quinn, the great Keith Quinn.

1109
00:52:24,667 --> 00:52:26,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on a part for me as well, keV. Yeah,

1110
00:52:27,107 --> 00:52:30,547
Speaker 2: on a part. Yeah, three hundred tests this morning. We've

1111
00:52:30,547 --> 00:52:32,587
Speaker 2: got got Nisbel on the air tomorrow. Actually, keV, you

1112
00:52:32,667 --> 00:52:34,467
Speaker 2: might be interested if you've got the chance to have

1113
00:52:34,547 --> 00:52:36,307
Speaker 2: a listen going to chat to Nizbel about his three

1114
00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:39,627
Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth game and the highlights of his career.

1115
00:52:39,707 --> 00:52:41,827
Speaker 2: But yeah, you use the word legend, and it gets

1116
00:52:41,907 --> 00:52:44,547
Speaker 2: used a lot, but it is not. It is you know,

1117
00:52:44,707 --> 00:52:47,107
Speaker 2: it is absolutely appropriate here. You're did right.

1118
00:52:47,387 --> 00:52:50,547
Speaker 6: It's not it's not given lightly, mate, It's not given lightly.

1119
00:52:50,787 --> 00:52:53,587
Speaker 6: It's never given lightly. Legend means the legend.

1120
00:52:53,867 --> 00:52:54,147
Speaker 4: That's it.

1121
00:52:55,587 --> 00:52:57,627
Speaker 2: Good on your keV, good stuff, mate, thanks for calling,

1122
00:52:57,667 --> 00:53:00,467
Speaker 2: and I totally agree with you. I absolutely totally agree.

1123
00:53:00,547 --> 00:53:07,267
Speaker 21: Hello Dean, Hello, then Tiny here the same thing about

1124
00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,587
Speaker 21: in this but just just amazing and hopefully you're on

1125
00:53:10,707 --> 00:53:11,867
Speaker 21: the way to the same thing.

1126
00:53:14,627 --> 00:53:17,427
Speaker 2: You mentioned if I could three hundred and fifty Phoenix

1127
00:53:17,507 --> 00:53:18,227
Speaker 2: Games team.

1128
00:53:18,907 --> 00:53:20,507
Speaker 21: Well, you got a long way to go, but you

1129
00:53:21,067 --> 00:53:23,307
Speaker 21: got you're a good caller and you got to you know,

1130
00:53:23,427 --> 00:53:25,987
Speaker 21: you come across well on the radio. Look, there just

1131
00:53:26,107 --> 00:53:29,787
Speaker 21: one comment about all the game. The Irish had the

1132
00:53:29,867 --> 00:53:32,147
Speaker 21: drop seat. I mean, we kicked them back to them

1133
00:53:32,627 --> 00:53:34,747
Speaker 21: when they were here in New Zealand and they scored,

1134
00:53:34,827 --> 00:53:38,027
Speaker 21: didn't they And I was disappointed the ball they kicked

1135
00:53:38,027 --> 00:53:41,547
Speaker 21: back to them, and particularly that one when Mackenzie was

1136
00:53:41,627 --> 00:53:44,787
Speaker 21: running right and there were five All Blacks out there

1137
00:53:44,787 --> 00:53:47,667
Speaker 21: and I think there were two or three and two

1138
00:53:47,787 --> 00:53:52,227
Speaker 21: or three irishmen and the overlap was screaming. You never

1139
00:53:52,307 --> 00:53:54,747
Speaker 21: even locked. You just booted a long one and the

1140
00:53:55,467 --> 00:53:58,507
Speaker 21: X All Black, the X New Zealand one. I got

1141
00:53:58,547 --> 00:54:01,027
Speaker 21: it and booted it down about sixty meters and we

1142
00:54:01,107 --> 00:54:03,427
Speaker 21: were back in our twenty five again. So yeah, they

1143
00:54:03,507 --> 00:54:05,827
Speaker 21: kicked away too much ball and the Irish was short

1144
00:54:05,867 --> 00:54:08,827
Speaker 21: of a game. Could see that. But the Blacks are improving.

1145
00:54:09,427 --> 00:54:10,867
Speaker 21: I'm impressed by.

1146
00:54:10,827 --> 00:54:16,427
Speaker 2: That, good man Dean. Thanks mate, appreciate your call very much. Clark,

1147
00:54:16,427 --> 00:54:17,907
Speaker 2: I think you're going to have the final say today

1148
00:54:17,947 --> 00:54:19,947
Speaker 2: on the All Blacks performance. What's on your mind?

1149
00:54:21,627 --> 00:54:22,587
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I think the.

1150
00:54:24,227 --> 00:54:26,667
Speaker 22: I think the All Blacks here to bring his game

1151
00:54:26,947 --> 00:54:30,747
Speaker 22: this morning. I do just get absolutely sick of people

1152
00:54:30,827 --> 00:54:34,387
Speaker 22: running down DM it. You know, the guy just did

1153
00:54:34,627 --> 00:54:37,347
Speaker 22: a man of a Mets performance against the number one

1154
00:54:37,427 --> 00:54:39,147
Speaker 22: side in the world. What more did he have to

1155
00:54:39,227 --> 00:54:40,067
Speaker 22: do to get a spot?

1156
00:54:42,707 --> 00:54:45,867
Speaker 2: Clark? I look again, I agree. I would give him

1157
00:54:45,867 --> 00:54:47,307
Speaker 2: that ten ten jersey next week.

1158
00:54:48,507 --> 00:54:48,707
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1159
00:54:49,027 --> 00:54:50,267
Speaker 2: I think you know, as I said at the top

1160
00:54:50,307 --> 00:54:51,507
Speaker 2: of the show, you might have heard it, you might not.

1161
00:54:51,587 --> 00:54:54,547
Speaker 2: He's a very polarizing rugby player for whatever reason, similar

1162
00:54:54,587 --> 00:54:58,347
Speaker 2: to Carlos Spencer. You know, he just whatever whatever reason

1163
00:54:58,387 --> 00:55:01,307
Speaker 2: polarizes people. I think he had a terrific test match.

1164
00:55:01,507 --> 00:55:03,187
Speaker 2: And if I'm picking the team for next week, he's

1165
00:55:03,187 --> 00:55:03,867
Speaker 2: in the ten jersey.

1166
00:55:05,147 --> 00:55:05,947
Speaker 22: I think so too.

1167
00:55:07,747 --> 00:55:10,387
Speaker 2: Yep, good Nan, Clark, And and I'm a huge boton

1168
00:55:10,427 --> 00:55:13,147
Speaker 2: Barrett fan. I'm a massive boat and Barrett fan. But

1169
00:55:13,347 --> 00:55:14,907
Speaker 2: I'd give the ten I'd give the keys to the

1170
00:55:14,947 --> 00:55:17,067
Speaker 2: carter to d MAT next week. A friend of mine

1171
00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:20,067
Speaker 2: just texting me, Pony, I got three dollars fifteen on

1172
00:55:20,147 --> 00:55:23,867
Speaker 2: the All Blacks on sports Bet three dollars fifteen.

1173
00:55:26,347 --> 00:55:26,467
Speaker 18: One.

1174
00:55:27,307 --> 00:55:29,147
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll get you across the Tasman.

1175
00:55:29,347 --> 00:55:32,147
Speaker 2: Will a catch up with Australian correspondent Adam Peacock.

1176
00:55:32,867 --> 00:55:36,787
Speaker 11: It's more than just a game. Weekend sport with Jason

1177
00:55:36,867 --> 00:55:37,907
Speaker 11: Kine and g J.

1178
00:55:38,107 --> 00:55:40,867
Speaker 1: Gardneromes New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1179
00:55:40,987 --> 00:55:41,947
Speaker 11: News talks, they'd.

1180
00:55:41,787 --> 00:55:45,467
Speaker 2: Be news talks, they'll be one forty six. Let's get

1181
00:55:45,507 --> 00:55:47,707
Speaker 2: you across the Tasman. Adam Peacock, one of the hardest

1182
00:55:47,747 --> 00:55:49,747
Speaker 2: working men on that side of the Tasman, or on

1183
00:55:49,907 --> 00:55:51,947
Speaker 2: any side of the Tasman, joins us. Now what a

1184
00:55:51,987 --> 00:55:54,387
Speaker 2: week it's been for you. Are you still in Victoria

1185
00:55:54,547 --> 00:55:54,747
Speaker 2: or not?

1186
00:55:55,867 --> 00:55:59,667
Speaker 23: Yes, just getting ready for big champions Day here three

1187
00:55:59,707 --> 00:56:00,507
Speaker 23: group ones over.

1188
00:56:00,427 --> 00:56:01,067
Speaker 19: This part of the world.

1189
00:56:01,747 --> 00:56:03,387
Speaker 23: Poney so was a little bit of a KEYWI interest

1190
00:56:03,427 --> 00:56:05,227
Speaker 23: as well. I think Eleatric Star goes around in the

1191
00:56:05,267 --> 00:56:08,627
Speaker 23: sprint three year old silly from over your part. So

1192
00:56:09,107 --> 00:56:10,667
Speaker 23: now it's been a it's been a great week and

1193
00:56:10,747 --> 00:56:13,187
Speaker 23: of course we claiming now here. Let's she's been here

1194
00:56:13,187 --> 00:56:15,187
Speaker 23: for a while. She had relaxing, but I think she's

1195
00:56:15,187 --> 00:56:16,907
Speaker 23: still got the chase of the key, were accident winning

1196
00:56:16,907 --> 00:56:19,467
Speaker 23: the Cup early in the week. So one of the

1197
00:56:19,507 --> 00:56:21,547
Speaker 23: best stories going around that is that's one hundred to

1198
00:56:21,587 --> 00:56:21,987
Speaker 23: one winner.

1199
00:56:22,267 --> 00:56:25,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brilliant, I mean, And I guess the major

1200
00:56:25,907 --> 00:56:29,387
Speaker 2: storyline of Melbourne Cup week it's it's a it's a

1201
00:56:29,507 --> 00:56:31,547
Speaker 2: huge week, isn't it. You know, I don't want to

1202
00:56:31,867 --> 00:56:34,947
Speaker 2: sort of, you know, state the obvious too much, but

1203
00:56:35,027 --> 00:56:37,827
Speaker 2: it's a massive week of horse racing, isn't it.

1204
00:56:38,787 --> 00:56:38,987
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1205
00:56:39,147 --> 00:56:41,147
Speaker 23: So you've got eight group ones, the three of which

1206
00:56:41,187 --> 00:56:43,467
Speaker 23: are today. They call it Champions Day. They've done a

1207
00:56:43,467 --> 00:56:45,947
Speaker 23: really good job in recalibrating this day used to be

1208
00:56:46,107 --> 00:56:48,387
Speaker 23: just a bit of a nondescript one one group one.

1209
00:56:48,667 --> 00:56:51,547
Speaker 23: Everyone's kind of drying out from the week, if you

1210
00:56:51,627 --> 00:56:53,067
Speaker 23: know what I mean, because it is a big week

1211
00:56:53,147 --> 00:56:56,267
Speaker 23: on the social front. It's got to be honest, and

1212
00:56:56,387 --> 00:56:58,667
Speaker 23: we're still drying out. But we've got this magnificent day

1213
00:56:58,947 --> 00:57:01,587
Speaker 23: that's got a peppinow step. But no, it's it's such

1214
00:57:01,587 --> 00:57:03,947
Speaker 23: a good week and we've had good crowds and I

1215
00:57:04,067 --> 00:57:06,427
Speaker 23: think some of the kind of the narrative around and

1216
00:57:06,667 --> 00:57:09,107
Speaker 23: that the Cup itself, like I think three or four

1217
00:57:09,227 --> 00:57:11,347
Speaker 23: years ago they hired. The charge been up to the

1218
00:57:11,427 --> 00:57:14,467
Speaker 23: cup and horses were dying. The Melbourne Cup wasn't a

1219
00:57:14,507 --> 00:57:17,347
Speaker 23: good look. But now the club and Racing Victoria brought

1220
00:57:17,387 --> 00:57:19,387
Speaker 23: in these parameters where it's like, if your horse has

1221
00:57:19,387 --> 00:57:21,627
Speaker 23: got any hint of an issue, it ain't running. Sorry,

1222
00:57:21,747 --> 00:57:25,027
Speaker 23: we can't deal with this. It's not happening. So it's

1223
00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:30,027
Speaker 23: good that it's turbo charged the narrative around horse welfare

1224
00:57:30,147 --> 00:57:32,507
Speaker 23: and looking after horses and everything like that. So hopefully

1225
00:57:32,587 --> 00:57:34,827
Speaker 23: that is part of the fabric of racing forever, because

1226
00:57:34,867 --> 00:57:37,147
Speaker 23: it hadn't always been. But now they've done a great job.

1227
00:57:37,227 --> 00:57:39,747
Speaker 23: And the Cup at one hundred and one the other day,

1228
00:57:39,867 --> 00:57:41,547
Speaker 23: which my eight year old daughter found the winner of

1229
00:57:41,747 --> 00:57:44,187
Speaker 23: somehow because she liked the colors. There you go, that's

1230
00:57:44,587 --> 00:57:46,587
Speaker 23: racing the morning know the less, you know, Piney.

1231
00:57:47,787 --> 00:57:49,507
Speaker 2: Did you take the tip from her?

1232
00:57:50,387 --> 00:57:50,867
Speaker 4: Of course not.

1233
00:57:52,147 --> 00:57:54,387
Speaker 16: I did three days of I did three days of

1234
00:57:54,467 --> 00:57:57,267
Speaker 16: form and looked at sexual times and this, that and

1235
00:57:57,307 --> 00:57:57,587
Speaker 16: the other.

1236
00:57:58,667 --> 00:58:00,307
Speaker 23: Of course not anyway.

1237
00:58:00,387 --> 00:58:04,787
Speaker 24: And yeah, and my wife that's warp speed because as

1238
00:58:04,827 --> 00:58:08,347
Speaker 24: a kid she was a good better So that's out like,

1239
00:58:08,787 --> 00:58:11,827
Speaker 24: there's no rhyme or reason for this cave anyway, she.

1240
00:58:13,387 --> 00:58:15,027
Speaker 23: Said, to me when I got home on Tuesday night.

1241
00:58:15,987 --> 00:58:17,907
Speaker 23: She goes, Dad, I think I'm a bit magical because

1242
00:58:17,907 --> 00:58:20,507
Speaker 23: she tipped one hundred and one winner to one hundred

1243
00:58:20,547 --> 00:58:22,987
Speaker 23: to one pop last year to finish third. So yeah,

1244
00:58:23,067 --> 00:58:24,947
Speaker 23: she thinks she's pretty magical when it comes to the tips.

1245
00:58:24,947 --> 00:58:27,187
Speaker 23: But I'll just restricted to one day, Thank you very much.

1246
00:58:27,347 --> 00:58:28,587
Speaker 5: That'll do no fair.

1247
00:58:28,667 --> 00:58:29,707
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I was going to say.

1248
00:58:29,707 --> 00:58:32,187
Speaker 2: What I'll do is I'll bypass you completely now for

1249
00:58:32,267 --> 00:58:33,947
Speaker 2: my tips. What I'll do is I'll get you just

1250
00:58:33,987 --> 00:58:35,547
Speaker 2: to check with your daughter what she thinks, and you

1251
00:58:35,627 --> 00:58:38,147
Speaker 2: passed that information back to me. I don't need your

1252
00:58:38,267 --> 00:58:39,347
Speaker 2: expertise anymore.

1253
00:58:40,267 --> 00:58:40,907
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

1254
00:58:41,267 --> 00:58:45,227
Speaker 23: Neither Peaklet Sitting In considers free to all, or you

1255
00:58:45,267 --> 00:58:47,227
Speaker 23: can subscribe as well. Anyway, we'll see how we go

1256
00:58:47,347 --> 00:58:47,467
Speaker 23: with it.

1257
00:58:49,107 --> 00:58:51,067
Speaker 2: What are the crowds being like? Have been good crowds

1258
00:58:51,107 --> 00:58:52,107
Speaker 2: turning out across the week?

1259
00:58:53,067 --> 00:58:53,267
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1260
00:58:53,427 --> 00:58:56,227
Speaker 23: Yeah, they got nearly ninety I think on Cup Day

1261
00:58:56,347 --> 00:59:00,707
Speaker 23: eighty last Saturday to Darby Day. I think I'm not

1262
00:59:01,187 --> 00:59:04,027
Speaker 23: what's sure they had on home day. It looked pretty sparse,

1263
00:59:04,107 --> 00:59:06,787
Speaker 23: but probably still has forty fifty thou and I think

1264
00:59:06,827 --> 00:59:10,467
Speaker 23: we're hoping about sixty today, So yes, it's huge and

1265
00:59:10,787 --> 00:59:13,427
Speaker 23: the city is buzzing as well. And this part of

1266
00:59:13,467 --> 00:59:14,787
Speaker 23: that ILL keep on saying it every time I come

1267
00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:16,307
Speaker 23: back to Melbourne. This part of who all just copped

1268
00:59:16,307 --> 00:59:20,307
Speaker 23: it in COVID and it was really everyone's morale was

1269
00:59:20,427 --> 00:59:23,427
Speaker 23: just on the floor. So now that everything's back to

1270
00:59:24,027 --> 00:59:27,547
Speaker 23: normal ish, Yeah, it's great to see this city come

1271
00:59:27,587 --> 00:59:30,187
Speaker 23: alife because it is magnificent sporting city with all the

1272
00:59:30,267 --> 00:59:33,507
Speaker 23: facilities that they've got and everyone gets into this time.

1273
00:59:33,547 --> 00:59:35,987
Speaker 23: He especially it's all about AFL the winter months, but

1274
00:59:36,067 --> 00:59:38,147
Speaker 23: then it's kind of diversifies this time of the year

1275
00:59:38,187 --> 00:59:40,147
Speaker 23: and we've got the tennis coming around the corner as well.

1276
00:59:40,267 --> 00:59:41,787
Speaker 23: So no, it's a great time.

1277
00:59:43,227 --> 00:59:44,947
Speaker 2: Good Man, good Man. Just a couple of quick ones

1278
00:59:44,947 --> 00:59:48,667
Speaker 2: before you go. Joseph is going to debut for the Wallabies.

1279
00:59:48,747 --> 00:59:51,427
Speaker 2: The league convert much noise around about this.

1280
00:59:52,427 --> 00:59:54,747
Speaker 23: Yeah, huge, Like it's put the Wallabies on the back

1281
00:59:54,787 --> 00:59:57,427
Speaker 23: page in the rugby league quarters.

1282
00:59:57,907 --> 01:00:01,227
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a huge, huge call.

1283
01:00:01,307 --> 01:00:05,787
Speaker 23: Though Joseph has come up, we're thirteen. Defensively, I mean,

1284
01:00:05,827 --> 01:00:07,787
Speaker 23: if he doesn't anything that he did in league, it's

1285
01:00:07,867 --> 01:00:10,187
Speaker 23: even it's even more strict as you know, Poney in

1286
01:00:10,387 --> 01:00:14,107
Speaker 23: rugby union around the head, so defensively, I'm just intrigue

1287
01:00:14,107 --> 01:00:16,067
Speaker 23: how he's going to handle it. But throw him in.

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Speaker 23: He's a really good kid, he's a really impressive human being,

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Speaker 23: so I don't think he'll be overawed by it. It's

1290
01:00:20,867 --> 01:00:23,107
Speaker 23: just the little interest because he's that he's going to

1291
01:00:23,147 --> 01:00:24,547
Speaker 23: have to learn on the run. I mean, first up

1292
01:00:24,547 --> 01:00:26,987
Speaker 23: in a game of Twickenham against England, your first ever

1293
01:00:27,107 --> 01:00:29,227
Speaker 23: rugby match on the big stage, not even like a

1294
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Speaker 23: club rugby game or for a state game.

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Speaker 16: It's a huge ass.

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Speaker 23: So no, it's been the big story over here, definitely,

1297
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Speaker 23: all right.

1298
01:00:36,747 --> 01:00:39,907
Speaker 2: Even bigger than Raygun retiring.

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Speaker 23: Plagued at half mask. In the dance community poney over here.

1300
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Speaker 23: Ah yeah, Seriously, I'm a bit biased because my daughters dance,

1301
01:00:52,027 --> 01:00:54,947
Speaker 23: and I've seen the dance community and what those people

1302
01:00:55,027 --> 01:00:58,267
Speaker 23: can do in their chosen crafts. And for that person

1303
01:00:58,347 --> 01:00:59,987
Speaker 23: to be able to get a start at an Olympics

1304
01:01:00,387 --> 01:01:05,107
Speaker 23: and do that too on the worst stage just beggars belief.

1305
01:01:05,387 --> 01:01:09,347
Speaker 23: But anyway, hopefully she finds a successful outcome for whatever

1306
01:01:09,467 --> 01:01:12,267
Speaker 23: she chooses in a chosen path in life going on now,

1307
01:01:12,427 --> 01:01:14,787
Speaker 23: and I don't think she'll be badly missed by the

1308
01:01:14,867 --> 01:01:18,747
Speaker 23: dance community in Australia for that way, I.

1309
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Speaker 2: Think you've got to You've got a future in diplomacy.

1310
01:01:21,427 --> 01:01:24,787
Speaker 2: Absolutely magnificent from you. I know you've got a busy

1311
01:01:24,867 --> 01:01:27,227
Speaker 2: afternoon here, so thanks, thanks for bobbing and as always,

1312
01:01:27,227 --> 01:01:28,467
Speaker 2: maybe will chat again next Saturday.

1313
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Speaker 16: She's finey have a go on mate, you too much.

1314
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Speaker 2: Cheers Adam. Pick up from the Other side of the

1315
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Speaker 2: Testament as regular slot here on News Talk's HEBB on

1316
01:01:38,747 --> 01:01:40,467
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoons eight Away from two.

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Speaker 1: News talksb from breaking down the Hail Mary's and the

1318
01:01:44,347 --> 01:01:45,267
Speaker 1: Epic fail.

1319
01:01:46,747 --> 01:01:50,467
Speaker 11: Weekend sport with Jason m News Talk ZMB.

1320
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Speaker 2: Five to two. Let's just rape the rugby with some

1321
01:01:53,467 --> 01:01:56,347
Speaker 2: thoughts from Scott Robertson after the game. First of all,

1322
01:01:56,427 --> 01:01:58,387
Speaker 2: on the performance of a supple Ama.

1323
01:01:59,947 --> 01:02:02,347
Speaker 25: Yeah look his page beginning to year for us and

1324
01:02:02,867 --> 01:02:05,827
Speaker 25: you know somes t make your pomes and games in

1325
01:02:05,867 --> 01:02:08,067
Speaker 25: her rowns. They a game like this at the end

1326
01:02:08,107 --> 01:02:10,667
Speaker 25: of the year. You know you've got to give guys time,

1327
01:02:11,667 --> 01:02:14,667
Speaker 25: give them opportunity to trust them and the most important

1328
01:02:14,667 --> 01:02:17,907
Speaker 25: thing they trusted themselves in their skill set the safo

1329
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Speaker 25: that last line out in now so the twenty two

1330
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Speaker 25: just absolutely no. You know, after missing there not straight

1331
01:02:24,547 --> 01:02:27,907
Speaker 25: in the first half, he could have probably questioned himself,

1332
01:02:27,947 --> 01:02:31,067
Speaker 25: but he didn't and d mac was macurial as normal,

1333
01:02:31,627 --> 01:02:36,867
Speaker 25: you know, he trusted his instinct and the hell of

1334
01:02:36,867 --> 01:02:41,187
Speaker 25: a night for him, gright off the boot really pleased.

1335
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Speaker 2: And on the decision to switch half backs on the

1336
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Speaker 2: second half.

1337
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Speaker 25: I think it was full ninth minute that brought Cam on,

1338
01:02:52,427 --> 01:02:53,947
Speaker 25: you know, like he was great last week and it

1339
01:02:53,987 --> 01:02:58,267
Speaker 25: was good little combo. You know, he plays with the ball,

1340
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Speaker 25: he gets Cortez and he's learning quickly. Watched his footballs

1341
01:03:02,267 --> 01:03:05,067
Speaker 25: around and we have great experience for him and Cam's

1342
01:03:05,067 --> 01:03:08,667
Speaker 25: come straight up to the international level really quickly and

1343
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Speaker 25: he's really catty.

1344
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Speaker 2: After two o'clock we're joined in studio by a couple

1345
01:03:14,387 --> 01:03:17,587
Speaker 2: of world champion white ferns Maddy Green and is he

1346
01:03:17,707 --> 01:03:19,627
Speaker 2: Gays and we'll get you inside the Breakers camp as

1347
01:03:19,627 --> 01:03:56,627
Speaker 2: well ahead of their game against Tasmania tonight. Be guys

1348
01:03:56,667 --> 01:03:58,867
Speaker 2: have made a really good start to the Australian National

1349
01:03:59,307 --> 01:04:02,107
Speaker 2: Basketball League season well eight games and now six wins.

1350
01:04:02,547 --> 01:04:06,707
Speaker 2: They are top a hugely impressive one over Melbourne in

1351
01:04:06,747 --> 01:04:09,107
Speaker 2: Melbourne last time at one hundred and thirteen seventy nine.

1352
01:04:09,107 --> 01:04:12,547
Speaker 2: They're up against tas Mania tonight, who are the defending champions,

1353
01:04:12,587 --> 01:04:16,307
Speaker 2: although they haven't started particularly well. We'll talk to Breakers

1354
01:04:16,347 --> 01:04:19,547
Speaker 2: head coach for Terry Copenan this out and the Fast

1355
01:04:19,667 --> 01:04:23,707
Speaker 2: five Ferns, as you heard from Richard Wayne during the news,

1356
01:04:24,147 --> 01:04:27,187
Speaker 2: off to a winning start in the Fast five World

1357
01:04:27,307 --> 01:04:30,867
Speaker 2: Series in christ Church, beating Jamaica thirty nine to nineteen.

1358
01:04:30,907 --> 01:04:33,667
Speaker 2: We'll get you inside their camp as well before we

1359
01:04:34,267 --> 01:04:37,507
Speaker 2: close this part of the show at three o'clock. Your

1360
01:04:37,587 --> 01:04:41,747
Speaker 2: calls and correspondence continue to be welcome. Heaps of great

1361
01:04:42,067 --> 01:04:44,347
Speaker 2: feedback on the All Blacks Island tests this morning, as

1362
01:04:44,987 --> 01:04:47,427
Speaker 2: is to be expected when you beat a team that

1363
01:04:47,547 --> 01:04:49,787
Speaker 2: thinks they're better than you by ten points, but it

1364
01:04:49,867 --> 01:04:52,427
Speaker 2: was a very good performance. Our lines remain open eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty text line also nine two

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Speaker 2: nine two emails into Jason at newstalksheadb dot co dot enz.

1367
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Speaker 2: But as we approach nine past two, as we always

1368
01:05:03,867 --> 01:05:06,787
Speaker 2: do and around about this time on weekend in sport,

1369
01:05:06,947 --> 01:05:09,267
Speaker 2: it's time to bring you up to date with some

1370
01:05:09,387 --> 01:05:11,427
Speaker 2: of the things that marks have a skepture attention. We

1371
01:05:11,547 --> 01:05:15,067
Speaker 2: call it in Kashia, mister, and it's well. I wouldn't

1372
01:05:15,067 --> 01:05:17,827
Speaker 2: say it's a jam pet in cash mister today, but

1373
01:05:17,907 --> 01:05:20,707
Speaker 2: certainly there's a bit to cover off. A league football

1374
01:05:21,347 --> 01:05:26,467
Speaker 2: West Sydney Wanderers. The Western Sydney Wanderers comprehensive winners over

1375
01:05:26,547 --> 01:05:33,707
Speaker 2: Newcastle last night. Miladivitch against Scott and he ties it

1376
01:05:33,787 --> 01:05:37,027
Speaker 2: into the bottom left Cat Connor against stop, got a

1377
01:05:37,107 --> 01:05:41,067
Speaker 2: hand to it but couldn't keep it out. And Nick

1378
01:05:41,107 --> 01:05:45,587
Speaker 2: Mlanavich's the Wanderers hat trick hero yet four one to

1379
01:05:45,627 --> 01:05:48,027
Speaker 2: the Wanderers last night over the Jets. Checking the A

1380
01:05:48,147 --> 01:05:50,787
Speaker 2: league table, this is andy script. I was god a

1381
01:05:50,827 --> 01:05:54,107
Speaker 2: prey read. Auckland is still on top. Auckland FC is

1382
01:05:54,107 --> 01:05:56,707
Speaker 2: still on top. They've got to buy this weekend. Phoenix

1383
01:05:56,707 --> 01:05:59,707
Speaker 2: play tomorrow night against Central Coast. Back to this Jaylan

1384
01:05:59,827 --> 01:06:04,627
Speaker 2: National Basketball League. The Sydney Kings fended off the Southeast

1385
01:06:04,667 --> 01:06:08,667
Speaker 2: Melbourne Phoenix in and entertaining clash in Sydney. What a

1386
01:06:08,787 --> 01:06:11,107
Speaker 2: patient performance that has been by the Kings.

1387
01:06:12,147 --> 01:06:15,427
Speaker 3: Impressive defensive results in Southeast melbournefore.

1388
01:06:14,987 --> 01:06:17,827
Speaker 2: Both at the game and now look at tailing out

1389
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Speaker 2: of us.

1390
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Speaker 11: Of course there was a smile.

1391
01:06:20,627 --> 01:06:24,347
Speaker 2: Now there's a little shimi as shape seventy four sixty

1392
01:06:24,467 --> 01:06:27,107
Speaker 2: nine to the Sydney Kings. Let's get you stateside, the

1393
01:06:27,227 --> 01:06:32,627
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens beating the Cincinnati Bengals and a classic NFL shoot.

1394
01:06:32,387 --> 01:06:39,387
Speaker 26: Out Thurn and goal Jackson running around little Chum pass

1395
01:06:39,627 --> 01:06:45,587
Speaker 26: shower Beatemen were shot beatmen.

1396
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Speaker 7: And they're the leader here.

1397
01:06:48,867 --> 01:06:52,187
Speaker 2: Just a one point win thirty five thirty four Ravens

1398
01:06:52,187 --> 01:06:57,227
Speaker 2: over the Bengals. And to one day International cricket. Pakistan

1399
01:06:57,707 --> 01:07:02,067
Speaker 2: absolutely demolish, demolishing Australia last night.

1400
01:07:03,987 --> 01:07:08,227
Speaker 27: Short while Bob Polson why for six to gees or

1401
01:07:08,347 --> 01:07:10,387
Speaker 27: wonder forgot the fusta.

1402
01:07:11,187 --> 01:07:15,627
Speaker 28: They described Australia by time wickets for twenty plus hovers to.

1403
01:07:15,667 --> 01:07:20,387
Speaker 1: Spare analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

1404
01:07:20,467 --> 01:07:23,667
Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Vye call.

1405
01:07:25,187 --> 01:07:28,507
Speaker 2: News Talk ZB eleven minutes past two. Must say I

1406
01:07:28,627 --> 01:07:34,147
Speaker 2: enjoyed that last night watching Pakistan beat Australia. Speaking of cricket,

1407
01:07:34,267 --> 01:07:37,547
Speaker 2: the world champion white Ferns are back home now, most

1408
01:07:37,587 --> 01:07:40,147
Speaker 2: of them anyway. After winning the T twenty World Cup

1409
01:07:40,507 --> 01:07:43,947
Speaker 2: in the UAE last month, New Zealand have done it.

1410
01:07:45,547 --> 01:07:50,187
Speaker 9: They had climbed their interest they had hitched their names

1411
01:07:50,387 --> 01:07:51,147
Speaker 9: and history.

1412
01:07:52,147 --> 01:07:56,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the great sporting performances of the calendar year.

1413
01:07:56,227 --> 01:08:00,667
Speaker 2: Now the Trophies on tour around New Zealand. Both Maddie

1414
01:08:00,707 --> 01:08:03,947
Speaker 2: Green and Izzie Gaze played all six matches for New

1415
01:08:04,027 --> 01:08:06,787
Speaker 2: Zealand at the tournament. They're part of the Trophy tour,

1416
01:08:06,867 --> 01:08:08,947
Speaker 2: but they've popped into the studio for a bit of

1417
01:08:08,987 --> 01:08:11,947
Speaker 2: a chat. Is the How has it been touring the

1418
01:08:12,027 --> 01:08:13,307
Speaker 2: Trophy around New Zealand.

1419
01:08:14,507 --> 01:08:17,147
Speaker 9: Well, it's actually my first day in Auckland because some

1420
01:08:17,187 --> 01:08:18,787
Speaker 9: of the other girls been doing the other stunts in

1421
01:08:18,867 --> 01:08:22,307
Speaker 9: their hometown, so I reached the mighty Auckland. So stoked

1422
01:08:22,347 --> 01:08:24,467
Speaker 9: to be doing that today. But it's had a good

1423
01:08:24,547 --> 01:08:25,147
Speaker 9: run so far.

1424
01:08:25,427 --> 01:08:27,347
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And what about you, Maddie, Have you been on

1425
01:08:27,387 --> 01:08:29,907
Speaker 2: the tour for a while or is this your first

1426
01:08:29,987 --> 01:08:30,387
Speaker 2: day as well?

1427
01:08:30,907 --> 01:08:32,387
Speaker 28: No, sort of my first day too. I think the

1428
01:08:32,507 --> 01:08:35,347
Speaker 28: really cool thing is we've had different girls sort of

1429
01:08:35,387 --> 01:08:38,507
Speaker 28: in their own regions with the trophy and getting around

1430
01:08:38,547 --> 01:08:40,907
Speaker 28: their sort of local communities and where they started their

1431
01:08:40,947 --> 01:08:43,067
Speaker 28: sort of cricketing journeys. So that's been great.

1432
01:08:43,267 --> 01:08:45,507
Speaker 2: Good to have it turn around right around the country.

1433
01:08:45,547 --> 01:08:47,987
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the World Cup itself, you too,

1434
01:08:48,067 --> 01:08:50,867
Speaker 2: of course, we're there at the end in the final

1435
01:08:51,027 --> 01:08:53,707
Speaker 2: of your runings anyway against South Africa one hundred and

1436
01:08:53,747 --> 01:08:56,947
Speaker 2: fifty eight for five. You set batting first, Mattie, As

1437
01:08:56,987 --> 01:08:59,307
Speaker 2: you're walked off, did you feel like you had enough

1438
01:08:59,347 --> 01:08:59,827
Speaker 2: to defend?

1439
01:09:00,507 --> 01:09:02,427
Speaker 28: Yeah, I thought that batting first. It was a fantastic

1440
01:09:02,507 --> 01:09:04,947
Speaker 28: squad put on the board, and obviously the conditions in

1441
01:09:05,067 --> 01:09:08,547
Speaker 28: Dubai were challenging. Slow wickets, the outfields were slow and

1442
01:09:09,027 --> 01:09:10,947
Speaker 28: it's sort of boundaries hard to come by. So I

1443
01:09:10,987 --> 01:09:13,467
Speaker 28: thought that was a really competitive total, but also knowing

1444
01:09:13,467 --> 01:09:15,347
Speaker 28: the back of our mind that South Africa has some

1445
01:09:15,587 --> 01:09:17,307
Speaker 28: world class players so that we need to buy a

1446
01:09:17,347 --> 01:09:19,067
Speaker 28: world to defend it. But we thought it was a

1447
01:09:19,107 --> 01:09:21,427
Speaker 28: great start and it was just up to our ballist

1448
01:09:21,467 --> 01:09:23,307
Speaker 28: to go and do the job. And they really delivered as.

1449
01:09:23,267 --> 01:09:25,507
Speaker 2: Well, they really did. I mean, in the end it

1450
01:09:25,627 --> 01:09:28,867
Speaker 2: was a comfortable one, wasn't it? Thirty two runs? As yet,

1451
01:09:28,947 --> 01:09:31,907
Speaker 2: what point during the South African innings did you let

1452
01:09:31,947 --> 01:09:33,587
Speaker 2: yourself believe you were going to win the game.

1453
01:09:34,227 --> 01:09:36,147
Speaker 9: I think I had belief from the start, but I

1454
01:09:36,227 --> 01:09:39,907
Speaker 9: think we when the total was pretty unreachable, had that

1455
01:09:39,987 --> 01:09:42,187
Speaker 9: little Tingley feeling. I was like, oh, we've actually got

1456
01:09:42,227 --> 01:09:44,147
Speaker 9: it here. And then it hit that last over and

1457
01:09:45,267 --> 01:09:48,547
Speaker 9: things started to be real and last ball hurt and

1458
01:09:49,507 --> 01:09:52,027
Speaker 9: had to calm myself with that last ball because I

1459
01:09:52,147 --> 01:09:52,867
Speaker 9: had to get through it.

1460
01:09:52,907 --> 01:09:54,907
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was great, Yeah, I Bet, and Maddie

1461
01:09:54,947 --> 01:09:57,347
Speaker 2: for you, how were the emotions when the wind was

1462
01:09:57,427 --> 01:09:58,267
Speaker 2: finally secured.

1463
01:09:58,627 --> 01:09:59,667
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was pretty surreal.

1464
01:09:59,747 --> 01:09:59,987
Speaker 7: Really.

1465
01:10:01,067 --> 01:10:03,947
Speaker 28: Look, I think, if we're being really honest, probably going

1466
01:10:04,027 --> 01:10:06,187
Speaker 28: to this tournament, we didn't necessarily expect it was going

1467
01:10:06,227 --> 01:10:08,627
Speaker 28: to this way. And you know, been part of the

1468
01:10:08,667 --> 01:10:10,307
Speaker 28: team for a long time and all you sort of

1469
01:10:10,387 --> 01:10:12,787
Speaker 28: dream of is and want to achieve playing for New

1470
01:10:12,867 --> 01:10:15,667
Speaker 28: Zealanders to when world titles and you know, so for

1471
01:10:15,987 --> 01:10:17,587
Speaker 28: me and some of the older girls been around for

1472
01:10:17,747 --> 01:10:19,947
Speaker 28: a long time and through some pretty tough times as well,

1473
01:10:20,067 --> 01:10:22,707
Speaker 28: it's pretty special. And it was cool just looking up

1474
01:10:22,747 --> 01:10:24,307
Speaker 28: in that sort of last over, known that we were

1475
01:10:24,347 --> 01:10:27,267
Speaker 28: going to win, and seeing the smiles on everyone's faces

1476
01:10:27,387 --> 01:10:31,027
Speaker 28: and yeah, just the pure joy was pretty pretty fantastic.

1477
01:10:31,187 --> 01:10:32,587
Speaker 28: So yeah, something I'll never forget.

1478
01:10:32,867 --> 01:10:33,027
Speaker 3: Bet.

1479
01:10:33,027 --> 01:10:34,627
Speaker 2: I want to talk a bit more about your role

1480
01:10:35,027 --> 01:10:37,147
Speaker 2: over the last decade in a moment, But is he

1481
01:10:37,587 --> 01:10:40,827
Speaker 2: who were the leaders of the celebrations afterwards. Who would

1482
01:10:40,827 --> 01:10:42,147
Speaker 2: have got to be at the latest.

1483
01:10:42,827 --> 01:10:45,707
Speaker 9: Probably Susie Bates and Lea to her who they had

1484
01:10:45,747 --> 01:10:48,307
Speaker 9: some late nights and definitely celebrated how it should be.

1485
01:10:48,867 --> 01:10:50,667
Speaker 9: And then probably in the changing room as people have

1486
01:10:50,747 --> 01:10:53,707
Speaker 9: seen Georgia Plumber led through the karaoke and set the

1487
01:10:53,747 --> 01:10:56,307
Speaker 9: scene with the with the music, which is great.

1488
01:10:56,507 --> 01:10:58,187
Speaker 2: All good to know that a couple of the more

1489
01:10:58,227 --> 01:11:01,907
Speaker 2: experienced players we're keeping the young ones on their toes

1490
01:11:01,987 --> 01:11:04,707
Speaker 2: during the celebrations. Excellent to hear Medie. Go back to

1491
01:11:04,747 --> 01:11:07,747
Speaker 2: the start of the tournament for us, important was the

1492
01:11:07,907 --> 01:11:10,867
Speaker 2: win over India in the first game to really set

1493
01:11:10,907 --> 01:11:11,507
Speaker 2: you guys up.

1494
01:11:12,027 --> 01:11:15,907
Speaker 28: Yeah, hugely important. Obviously, we sort of knew going into

1495
01:11:15,987 --> 01:11:17,827
Speaker 28: the tournament that we're in a really hard pool and

1496
01:11:17,947 --> 01:11:20,387
Speaker 28: both India and Australia are world class size. And then

1497
01:11:20,387 --> 01:11:22,627
Speaker 28: obviously as well we had Pakistan and Sri Lanka have

1498
01:11:22,707 --> 01:11:26,307
Speaker 28: been playing well and toppling some top teams over the

1499
01:11:26,387 --> 01:11:29,387
Speaker 28: last couple of years. So we sort of talked about

1500
01:11:29,427 --> 01:11:32,107
Speaker 28: that first game being the most important game in our pool.

1501
01:11:32,187 --> 01:11:34,587
Speaker 28: And I thought the way that Sophie led from the

1502
01:11:34,627 --> 01:11:37,547
Speaker 28: front with how she batted and she was exceptional and

1503
01:11:37,667 --> 01:11:40,867
Speaker 28: then her captaincy throughout that innings as well when we

1504
01:11:40,947 --> 01:11:44,547
Speaker 28: were bowling. You know, she was just on and crucial

1505
01:11:44,587 --> 01:11:46,827
Speaker 28: win for us, and you know T twenty cricket a

1506
01:11:46,867 --> 01:11:48,307
Speaker 28: lot of the time it is about momentum and I

1507
01:11:48,347 --> 01:11:50,187
Speaker 28: thought that just got our tournament off to a great start.

1508
01:11:50,667 --> 01:11:52,987
Speaker 2: Is he from your position behind the stums, she had

1509
01:11:53,107 --> 01:11:55,427
Speaker 2: a perfect view of the White Feran's bowling. Of course

1510
01:11:55,547 --> 01:11:58,467
Speaker 2: during the tournament. What do you think your bowling attack

1511
01:11:58,747 --> 01:12:01,427
Speaker 2: did particularly well across the entire tournament.

1512
01:12:02,067 --> 01:12:04,707
Speaker 9: I think we started her own brand, you know, with

1513
01:12:04,787 --> 01:12:07,147
Speaker 9: the likes of Eden Carson shining thro for that tournament

1514
01:12:07,307 --> 01:12:09,867
Speaker 9: was really cool and you know, merely had an excellent

1515
01:12:09,947 --> 01:12:13,467
Speaker 9: tour tournament with the ball and everyone just played their

1516
01:12:13,507 --> 01:12:15,907
Speaker 9: own role and stuck to their own plans and you

1517
01:12:15,987 --> 01:12:19,227
Speaker 9: see the likes of the things that we've been working on. Yeah,

1518
01:12:19,307 --> 01:12:20,227
Speaker 9: really special, I think.

1519
01:12:20,747 --> 01:12:22,947
Speaker 2: And you're still quite new to this side. You're one

1520
01:12:22,987 --> 01:12:24,707
Speaker 2: of the younger members of the side. But are you

1521
01:12:24,787 --> 01:12:27,987
Speaker 2: still able to offer advice to the bowlers even though

1522
01:12:28,107 --> 01:12:30,707
Speaker 2: you know most of them are older and more experienced

1523
01:12:30,747 --> 01:12:31,107
Speaker 2: than you are.

1524
01:12:31,867 --> 01:12:34,147
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think everyone would love some input

1525
01:12:34,267 --> 01:12:35,827
Speaker 9: on you know what the wicket's doing and what the

1526
01:12:35,867 --> 01:12:38,187
Speaker 9: batters are doing. And I've got the view that everyone

1527
01:12:38,227 --> 01:12:41,147
Speaker 9: probably would like so like to give my input here

1528
01:12:41,187 --> 01:12:43,187
Speaker 9: and there, and you know, they can take it how

1529
01:12:43,227 --> 01:12:46,307
Speaker 9: they can use it. But yeah, just see what I

1530
01:12:46,387 --> 01:12:47,907
Speaker 9: can contribute behind the stumps.

1531
01:12:48,267 --> 01:12:50,947
Speaker 2: And six catches for you across the tournament, Mattie, including

1532
01:12:50,987 --> 01:12:52,707
Speaker 2: a couple in the final. The ball seemed to follow

1533
01:12:52,747 --> 01:12:56,187
Speaker 2: you around as it usually does. How big a part

1534
01:12:56,227 --> 01:12:58,587
Speaker 2: of the White Fern's success at the World Cup was

1535
01:12:59,067 --> 01:12:59,827
Speaker 2: the team's fielding.

1536
01:13:00,427 --> 01:13:03,987
Speaker 28: Yeah, I thought mifielded particularly well throughout that tournament and

1537
01:13:04,027 --> 01:13:05,907
Speaker 28: Cravement Mellon has been a huge influence on that since

1538
01:13:05,907 --> 01:13:08,027
Speaker 28: his coming to the team and the intensity he brings

1539
01:13:08,067 --> 01:13:10,187
Speaker 28: with sort of fielding training, So I think he's been great.

1540
01:13:10,227 --> 01:13:12,347
Speaker 28: And you know, when we talked about as a group

1541
01:13:12,427 --> 01:13:14,827
Speaker 28: that fielding was going to be really crucial at this tournament,

1542
01:13:14,867 --> 01:13:17,267
Speaker 28: so it's something we focused a lot on. And yeah,

1543
01:13:17,307 --> 01:13:19,987
Speaker 28: I thought, you know, someone like Georgia Plumber and the

1544
01:13:20,027 --> 01:13:22,307
Speaker 28: outfield really set the standard. And we've talked a lot

1545
01:13:22,307 --> 01:13:25,467
Speaker 28: about effort and our teams being something that we can control,

1546
01:13:25,667 --> 01:13:27,667
Speaker 28: So from a fielding point of view, that was a

1547
01:13:27,747 --> 01:13:30,307
Speaker 28: huge focus and it was really hot over in Dubai obviously,

1548
01:13:30,467 --> 01:13:32,947
Speaker 28: but yeah, it's just about pushing ourselves and doing what

1549
01:13:33,027 --> 01:13:34,547
Speaker 28: we can for the team. And I think our fielding

1550
01:13:34,587 --> 01:13:35,667
Speaker 28: made a big difference, and.

1551
01:13:35,707 --> 01:13:37,867
Speaker 2: You alluded to it before, but you've been around this

1552
01:13:37,907 --> 01:13:40,347
Speaker 2: team for a week while over one hundred T twenty

1553
01:13:40,427 --> 01:13:44,627
Speaker 2: internationals now seventy six one day internationals. How special was

1554
01:13:44,707 --> 01:13:46,507
Speaker 2: this for you and some of those who have been

1555
01:13:46,587 --> 01:13:50,107
Speaker 2: in this team with you for over a decade now, Yeah,

1556
01:13:50,387 --> 01:13:51,187
Speaker 2: hugely special.

1557
01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:53,507
Speaker 28: As I said earlier, it's just what you dream about,

1558
01:13:53,627 --> 01:13:56,627
Speaker 28: is being a white fan as winning tournaments for New Zealand.

1559
01:13:56,747 --> 01:13:59,187
Speaker 28: And you know, we've certainly been through some ups andce

1560
01:13:59,227 --> 01:14:01,267
Speaker 28: and downs and heartbreak and you know, I think most

1561
01:14:01,307 --> 01:14:04,187
Speaker 28: recently that fifty over home World cut was pretty devastating

1562
01:14:04,227 --> 01:14:06,267
Speaker 28: for a few of us that were there. And we've had,

1563
01:14:06,347 --> 01:14:08,547
Speaker 28: if you've, changes in the team since that point, and

1564
01:14:08,627 --> 01:14:10,747
Speaker 28: it's been really refreshing to have sort of some of

1565
01:14:10,747 --> 01:14:13,267
Speaker 28: the younger group come in potentially not with those sort

1566
01:14:13,267 --> 01:14:16,707
Speaker 28: of battle scars and just come in and express themselves

1567
01:14:16,787 --> 01:14:18,907
Speaker 28: and play so freely. And I think throughout the tournament

1568
01:14:18,907 --> 01:14:20,707
Speaker 28: we just had so many different people standing up at

1569
01:14:20,747 --> 01:14:22,827
Speaker 28: different times and that was a really cool thing. And

1570
01:14:23,187 --> 01:14:26,067
Speaker 28: I think potentially you could say in the past, you know,

1571
01:14:26,147 --> 01:14:28,587
Speaker 28: we may have relied on Susie and Sophie to get

1572
01:14:28,667 --> 01:14:31,147
Speaker 28: us over the line and games and tournaments, but I

1573
01:14:31,227 --> 01:14:33,387
Speaker 28: think the way that all our girls contributed throughout the

1574
01:14:33,427 --> 01:14:36,587
Speaker 28: tournament was excellent. And for us old girls, it's pretty

1575
01:14:36,627 --> 01:14:38,067
Speaker 28: cool to be able to say we're t twenty World

1576
01:14:38,067 --> 01:14:38,707
Speaker 28: Cup champions in.

1577
01:14:38,707 --> 01:14:41,827
Speaker 2: Particular, absolutely, and for the younger members of the team,

1578
01:14:41,947 --> 01:14:44,747
Speaker 2: is you of which you are one? Matty talked about

1579
01:14:44,787 --> 01:14:47,987
Speaker 2: it there about players coming in and being enabled to

1580
01:14:48,067 --> 01:14:50,667
Speaker 2: perform straight away. Maybe no battle scars for you. Have

1581
01:14:50,787 --> 01:14:53,107
Speaker 2: you found the White Ferns environment one that has been

1582
01:14:53,267 --> 01:14:54,467
Speaker 2: easy to fit into.

1583
01:14:55,027 --> 01:14:57,947
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely. I think everyone's really welcoming and we all

1584
01:14:57,987 --> 01:15:00,267
Speaker 9: want the team to just do well, so we're always

1585
01:15:00,307 --> 01:15:03,667
Speaker 9: striving for the same goal, which is pretty special. But yeah,

1586
01:15:03,667 --> 01:15:06,547
Speaker 9: everyone's welcoming and it's pretty much a big family, so

1587
01:15:06,587 --> 01:15:08,827
Speaker 9: it's pretty lucky to be a part of it. And

1588
01:15:08,987 --> 01:15:11,627
Speaker 9: you know, I've supported the team growing up, so you know,

1589
01:15:11,707 --> 01:15:14,067
Speaker 9: you see what they've been through and I guess now

1590
01:15:14,147 --> 01:15:16,547
Speaker 9: to make my mark, and it's pretty special.

1591
01:15:16,867 --> 01:15:18,507
Speaker 2: And you're not even what you're not even twenty one

1592
01:15:18,627 --> 01:15:21,387
Speaker 2: yet you know you're still very early on in your

1593
01:15:21,427 --> 01:15:24,147
Speaker 2: cricketing journey. Does this feel a bit surreal in some

1594
01:15:24,307 --> 01:15:26,667
Speaker 2: ways to be a world champion this early in your career?

1595
01:15:27,267 --> 01:15:31,147
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely. First World Cup is a good one to remember,

1596
01:15:32,027 --> 01:15:34,987
Speaker 9: so yeah, it's pretty surreal and pretty unforgettable.

1597
01:15:35,187 --> 01:15:35,547
Speaker 7: All right.

1598
01:15:35,627 --> 01:15:38,587
Speaker 2: So back home now, Maddie. The home summer underway soon,

1599
01:15:38,747 --> 01:15:42,227
Speaker 2: both domestically and with the White Ferns internationally. Three One

1600
01:15:42,267 --> 01:15:46,067
Speaker 2: Day internationals against Australia at the Basin before Christmas, then

1601
01:15:46,107 --> 01:15:49,107
Speaker 2: Sri Lanka are here in March for Odieis and T

1602
01:15:49,267 --> 01:15:52,027
Speaker 2: twenties and then Australia again for T twenties at the

1603
01:15:52,067 --> 01:15:54,387
Speaker 2: back end of March. How keen of the side to

1604
01:15:54,587 --> 01:15:57,347
Speaker 2: play on home soil for the first time as world champions.

1605
01:15:57,747 --> 01:16:00,587
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's really exciting and personally excited to play back

1606
01:16:00,587 --> 01:16:02,707
Speaker 28: at the base and means Australia. We're always really well

1607
01:16:02,747 --> 01:16:06,107
Speaker 28: supported in Wellington. First game of the summer is free entry,

1608
01:16:06,147 --> 01:16:08,947
Speaker 28: so you're looking forward to getting out there in Wellington

1609
01:16:09,147 --> 01:16:11,547
Speaker 28: and hopefully get a good crowd. You know, they're really

1610
01:16:11,587 --> 01:16:14,947
Speaker 28: keen cricket supporters down down in the Capitol, so yeah,

1611
01:16:14,987 --> 01:16:16,787
Speaker 28: it'll be great, we're looking forward to it. It should

1612
01:16:16,827 --> 01:16:17,667
Speaker 28: be a great summer.

1613
01:16:17,547 --> 01:16:19,587
Speaker 2: So you could play a lot more often at the Basin.

1614
01:16:19,667 --> 01:16:21,267
Speaker 2: All you'd have to do is just to come back

1615
01:16:21,307 --> 01:16:23,307
Speaker 2: to the Blaze and play you domesteric cricket there again

1616
01:16:23,667 --> 01:16:23,987
Speaker 2: I could.

1617
01:16:24,067 --> 01:16:26,187
Speaker 28: I did love my time at the Blaze, but it's

1618
01:16:26,307 --> 01:16:28,027
Speaker 28: nice to be home back in Auckland with friends and

1619
01:16:28,107 --> 01:16:31,427
Speaker 28: family and yeah, still hold the Basin very close to

1620
01:16:31,507 --> 01:16:31,827
Speaker 28: my heart.

1621
01:16:31,867 --> 01:16:32,147
Speaker 12: All right.

1622
01:16:32,147 --> 01:16:34,387
Speaker 2: Well, you know you're always welcome down in the Capitol

1623
01:16:34,427 --> 01:16:37,187
Speaker 2: and for you. Is he looking forward to another summer

1624
01:16:37,387 --> 01:16:39,107
Speaker 2: of domestic and international cricket.

1625
01:16:39,467 --> 01:16:42,467
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely love playing for the Oakland Harts, especially with

1626
01:16:42,547 --> 01:16:46,307
Speaker 9: Maddie alongside me and then alongside the Basin, which will

1627
01:16:46,307 --> 01:16:48,907
Speaker 9: be special. Even though it gets pretty windy down there,

1628
01:16:49,467 --> 01:16:51,427
Speaker 9: can't complain about the crowds that we get in there.

1629
01:16:51,907 --> 01:16:53,667
Speaker 2: Good to have some shots fired right at the end,

1630
01:16:54,147 --> 01:16:56,827
Speaker 2: as he gays Maddy Green, congratulations on being part of

1631
01:16:56,867 --> 01:17:00,987
Speaker 2: a really special, special team that achieved something extraordinary T

1632
01:17:01,147 --> 01:17:03,827
Speaker 2: twenty World champions I hope the rest of the tour

1633
01:17:03,907 --> 01:17:07,627
Speaker 2: goes well and the summer ahead both domestically and internationally

1634
01:17:07,907 --> 01:17:09,947
Speaker 2: as well. Thanks for both stopping in for a chat.

1635
01:17:10,507 --> 01:17:13,307
Speaker 2: Thanks beating no, thank you both as he goes and

1636
01:17:13,507 --> 01:17:17,347
Speaker 2: Maddy Green there. As the T twenty tour continues, I'm

1637
01:17:17,387 --> 01:17:19,107
Speaker 2: sure you can find out where it's going to be

1638
01:17:19,147 --> 01:17:20,747
Speaker 2: if it's going to be close to you. I think

1639
01:17:20,787 --> 01:17:23,027
Speaker 2: it started down south, it's worked its way up. I

1640
01:17:23,067 --> 01:17:26,067
Speaker 2: presume it'll be up heading. I probably should have asked

1641
01:17:26,267 --> 01:17:29,707
Speaker 2: heading north now. The White Ferns are back in action.

1642
01:17:29,827 --> 01:17:32,107
Speaker 2: As I mentioned there, there's a three match one day

1643
01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:36,307
Speaker 2: International series against Australia, all three games at the Basin

1644
01:17:36,387 --> 01:17:41,027
Speaker 2: Reserve on December nineteenth, twenty one and twenty three, and

1645
01:17:41,187 --> 01:17:44,227
Speaker 2: news through yesterday that the game on the nineteenth of

1646
01:17:44,387 --> 01:17:48,187
Speaker 2: December is free entry, so they're opening the gates for

1647
01:17:48,307 --> 01:17:52,227
Speaker 2: the first game back on home soil for the world

1648
01:17:52,307 --> 01:17:55,267
Speaker 2: champion White Ferns. These are fifty over matches, of course

1649
01:17:55,307 --> 01:17:57,987
Speaker 2: they're T twenty World champions, but three fifty over matches

1650
01:17:58,027 --> 01:18:01,547
Speaker 2: at the Basin the White Ferns against Australia, the first

1651
01:18:01,587 --> 01:18:04,027
Speaker 2: of those on the nineteenth of December, free entry. Then

1652
01:18:04,067 --> 01:18:06,107
Speaker 2: sril Ancor arrived. There are T twenties and one day

1653
01:18:06,107 --> 01:18:08,827
Speaker 2: into nationals against Sri Lanka in March and then the

1654
01:18:08,867 --> 01:18:11,787
Speaker 2: back end of March Australia are back again and they'll

1655
01:18:11,827 --> 01:18:16,187
Speaker 2: play three T twenty Internationals, this time against the White Ferns.

1656
01:18:16,267 --> 01:18:18,707
Speaker 2: So a good international summer to look forward to. And

1657
01:18:18,747 --> 01:18:21,227
Speaker 2: amongst all of that, of course, our top players will

1658
01:18:21,227 --> 01:18:25,187
Speaker 2: be involved in the Super Smash which starts just after Christmas.

1659
01:18:25,827 --> 01:18:28,987
Speaker 2: Is also the Halle Burton Johnston Shield, which is the

1660
01:18:29,987 --> 01:18:32,827
Speaker 2: women's fifty over competition that gets underway in the next

1661
01:18:32,867 --> 01:18:37,027
Speaker 2: week or so. Two twenty two is the time we

1662
01:18:37,147 --> 01:18:39,267
Speaker 2: can take a break. When we come back, we'll focus

1663
01:18:39,347 --> 01:18:43,387
Speaker 2: our attention across to basketball. It may have escaped your attention,

1664
01:18:43,467 --> 01:18:46,907
Speaker 2: but the New Zealand Breakers are top of the Australian

1665
01:18:46,987 --> 01:18:50,787
Speaker 2: National Basketball League table. They've won their last three games,

1666
01:18:51,027 --> 01:18:54,627
Speaker 2: the most recent of which was an extremely impressive outing

1667
01:18:54,867 --> 01:18:59,027
Speaker 2: in Melbourne against Melbourne United. They're still over in Australia

1668
01:18:59,027 --> 01:19:03,307
Speaker 2: where tonight they'll take on the defending champion Tasmania jack Jumpers.

1669
01:19:03,347 --> 01:19:05,547
Speaker 2: So how they're feeling ahead of this, How have they

1670
01:19:05,827 --> 01:19:07,707
Speaker 2: got them so to the top of the table. What's

1671
01:19:07,747 --> 01:19:10,467
Speaker 2: been going so well for them? We'll find the answers

1672
01:19:10,467 --> 01:19:13,267
Speaker 2: to these questions out when I pose them to their coach.

1673
01:19:13,347 --> 01:19:16,427
Speaker 2: But Terry Copenhan is with us after this on Weekend Sport.

1674
01:19:16,987 --> 01:19:20,707
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

1675
01:19:20,787 --> 01:19:24,667
Speaker 1: Hine and GJ. Gunnerholmes New Zealand's most trusted home builder

1676
01:19:24,787 --> 01:19:25,587
Speaker 1: News Dogs v.

1677
01:19:27,107 --> 01:19:30,427
Speaker 2: Two twenty six on Weekend Sport. The New Zealand Breakers

1678
01:19:30,507 --> 01:19:33,787
Speaker 2: are top of the Australian National Basketball League Ladder six

1679
01:19:33,867 --> 01:19:36,307
Speaker 2: wins from their eight games so far this season. The

1680
01:19:36,427 --> 01:19:40,147
Speaker 2: latest victory are hugely impressive one one hundred and thirteen

1681
01:19:40,387 --> 01:19:43,867
Speaker 2: seventy nine over Melbourne United in Melbourne earlier this week.

1682
01:19:44,787 --> 01:19:49,467
Speaker 8: It dies in again Keith Balcony Henderson who delivers.

1683
01:19:50,627 --> 01:19:53,947
Speaker 2: But it's back to back statement victories for New Zealand's

1684
01:19:54,387 --> 01:19:56,267
Speaker 2: who take on the toughest.

1685
01:19:55,907 --> 01:19:58,867
Speaker 29: Test in the league and for the first time in

1686
01:19:59,067 --> 01:20:03,907
Speaker 29: ten or tens Bath beat Melbourne United in john Caynata.

1687
01:20:04,347 --> 01:20:07,387
Speaker 2: Yeah and it was a massive win. Two on Cup eve.

1688
01:20:07,587 --> 01:20:09,227
Speaker 2: They next take on the breaker is that is the

1689
01:20:09,307 --> 01:20:13,867
Speaker 2: defending champion Tasmania jack Jumpers. That is a way tonight

1690
01:20:14,187 --> 01:20:16,307
Speaker 2: the majeorda philly tough start to the season. Actually the

1691
01:20:16,387 --> 01:20:19,947
Speaker 2: jack Jumpers their bottom with just three wins from their

1692
01:20:20,107 --> 01:20:25,107
Speaker 2: eleven games so far. Breakers coach Pterry Copenan is with us. PETERI,

1693
01:20:25,147 --> 01:20:26,587
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat ahead of

1694
01:20:26,627 --> 01:20:29,427
Speaker 2: this one. Let's look back to Monday night's performance. What

1695
01:20:29,547 --> 01:20:33,467
Speaker 2: pleased you the most about the big win over Melbourne United.

1696
01:20:34,507 --> 01:20:37,067
Speaker 29: Well, I think it's just overall we start to see

1697
01:20:38,307 --> 01:20:41,067
Speaker 29: how we improve as a team. The guys are getting

1698
01:20:41,147 --> 01:20:45,227
Speaker 29: to know how to play with each other. And not

1699
01:20:45,387 --> 01:20:48,547
Speaker 29: only the Melbourne win, but the win also against Sydney Away,

1700
01:20:49,307 --> 01:20:52,667
Speaker 29: how we played against Adelaide. We have really let's say,

1701
01:20:52,707 --> 01:20:56,787
Speaker 29: impressive one week of basketball. And now you know, we

1702
01:20:56,987 --> 01:20:59,947
Speaker 29: just keep going focus and you know, we have to

1703
01:21:00,027 --> 01:21:03,027
Speaker 29: still stay hungry and this is the challenge. Now, you know, Okay,

1704
01:21:03,147 --> 01:21:07,067
Speaker 29: we got some win wins early on, we're playing playing well,

1705
01:21:07,147 --> 01:21:09,827
Speaker 29: but you know it's still early early in the season,

1706
01:21:09,907 --> 01:21:12,507
Speaker 29: and we have to stay hungry, have the same mentality

1707
01:21:12,547 --> 01:21:15,467
Speaker 29: and go out there and compete every game. And now,

1708
01:21:16,467 --> 01:21:18,787
Speaker 29: like you said, we play against Tasmania next game. It's

1709
01:21:18,827 --> 01:21:22,827
Speaker 29: going to be a great challenge for us, and so

1710
01:21:23,027 --> 01:21:25,747
Speaker 29: far they haven't played that well, but they got that

1711
01:21:25,907 --> 01:21:27,947
Speaker 29: potential and they are, you know, one of the best

1712
01:21:28,027 --> 01:21:30,307
Speaker 29: defensive team in the league and we have to be ready.

1713
01:21:30,947 --> 01:21:33,067
Speaker 2: So those three ones you've just talked about came off

1714
01:21:33,107 --> 01:21:36,347
Speaker 2: the back of a home defeat by Southeast Melbourne Phoenix

1715
01:21:36,387 --> 01:21:40,107
Speaker 2: eighty eight sixty two. I remember watching your media conference

1716
01:21:40,187 --> 01:21:44,547
Speaker 2: afterwards and you were hugely disappointed after that game. Was

1717
01:21:44,587 --> 01:21:47,667
Speaker 2: that in some way a turning point for your side though?

1718
01:21:49,347 --> 01:21:52,747
Speaker 29: I think the guys kind of realized, like, we don't

1719
01:21:52,747 --> 01:21:56,227
Speaker 29: have that luxury to come out flat and play.

1720
01:21:56,387 --> 01:21:57,907
Speaker 18: How we played against.

1721
01:21:57,587 --> 01:22:02,907
Speaker 29: The Southeast in christ Church and something really really clicked

1722
01:22:04,027 --> 01:22:07,867
Speaker 29: when we went to Sydney and everything started with that

1723
01:22:08,227 --> 01:22:09,747
Speaker 29: one on one responsibility.

1724
01:22:09,867 --> 01:22:12,627
Speaker 18: The guys really wanted to compete.

1725
01:22:12,267 --> 01:22:16,387
Speaker 29: Win those fifty to fifty situations defensively and then when

1726
01:22:16,387 --> 01:22:19,787
Speaker 29: we get some stuffs we we when rebounds we always

1727
01:22:19,827 --> 01:22:25,347
Speaker 29: have opportunity to run and find solutions, and like you said,

1728
01:22:25,387 --> 01:22:29,267
Speaker 29: I think it's just something. Of course, the Southeast game

1729
01:22:29,427 --> 01:22:32,427
Speaker 29: was also we were missing our three three guys. We

1730
01:22:32,547 --> 01:22:36,187
Speaker 29: were still looking how who is the guy maybe who

1731
01:22:36,627 --> 01:22:38,107
Speaker 29: kind of you know, produce something.

1732
01:22:38,227 --> 01:22:39,867
Speaker 18: And we after that.

1733
01:22:40,027 --> 01:22:44,507
Speaker 29: Game Sean Burstel and Carien Lopez really really gave us,

1734
01:22:44,627 --> 01:22:45,627
Speaker 29: you know, big boosts.

1735
01:22:45,747 --> 01:22:48,547
Speaker 18: Both of them been playing really really well.

1736
01:22:48,667 --> 01:22:53,147
Speaker 29: And you know Parker and Mooney, Johonnah Bolden, Sam and

1737
01:22:53,227 --> 01:22:56,187
Speaker 29: and I can say all of out our eight nine guys,

1738
01:22:56,267 --> 01:22:59,867
Speaker 29: you know, really really playing well last last games, and

1739
01:22:59,947 --> 01:23:01,227
Speaker 29: I hope we can continue this.

1740
01:23:02,147 --> 01:23:05,107
Speaker 2: The one hundred and thirteen you scored against Melbourne United

1741
01:23:05,227 --> 01:23:07,387
Speaker 2: was a season high for you. But do you take

1742
01:23:07,467 --> 01:23:10,787
Speaker 2: as much satisfaction from keeping Melbourne, you know, added to

1743
01:23:11,027 --> 01:23:12,467
Speaker 2: just seventy nine points.

1744
01:23:14,027 --> 01:23:16,707
Speaker 29: Well, of course, I think in basketball it goes both ways.

1745
01:23:16,827 --> 01:23:20,507
Speaker 29: You know, if you get some stops, it makes your

1746
01:23:20,787 --> 01:23:23,147
Speaker 29: job also easier in the offense eve and you can

1747
01:23:23,547 --> 01:23:27,267
Speaker 29: you know, run after those rebounds or steals, and then

1748
01:23:27,747 --> 01:23:31,027
Speaker 29: you can find some easy, easy baskets and it boosts

1749
01:23:31,027 --> 01:23:32,907
Speaker 29: the moral and the confidence of the team.

1750
01:23:33,027 --> 01:23:35,107
Speaker 18: And if you always have to take the ball out

1751
01:23:35,107 --> 01:23:37,147
Speaker 18: of them, it's much much harder.

1752
01:23:37,307 --> 01:23:41,467
Speaker 29: And overall in that game, we were really really good

1753
01:23:41,547 --> 01:23:45,147
Speaker 29: both ends of the floor and then focused and play

1754
01:23:45,267 --> 01:23:47,067
Speaker 29: play really well all forty minutes.

1755
01:23:47,147 --> 01:23:48,667
Speaker 18: And that's the way to go.

1756
01:23:49,107 --> 01:23:51,467
Speaker 29: But like I said, everything for me started in the

1757
01:23:51,787 --> 01:23:56,467
Speaker 29: Sydney for I think with the two huge steps there,

1758
01:23:57,107 --> 01:24:00,587
Speaker 29: we like I said, we want the one on one situations,

1759
01:24:00,667 --> 01:24:03,187
Speaker 29: and then that gave us the chance to win win

1760
01:24:03,307 --> 01:24:05,627
Speaker 29: that game and at the same time gave us a

1761
01:24:05,787 --> 01:24:06,947
Speaker 29: huge fence boost.

1762
01:24:07,467 --> 01:24:10,787
Speaker 2: You mentioned a number of your roster but I just

1763
01:24:10,867 --> 01:24:14,067
Speaker 2: want to ask about Parker Jackson cart right. Can you

1764
01:24:14,267 --> 01:24:16,827
Speaker 2: talk a bit about his influence on this team.

1765
01:24:18,107 --> 01:24:22,307
Speaker 29: Well, he's our you know leader for me, best player

1766
01:24:23,027 --> 01:24:25,547
Speaker 29: probably in the in the league, and his special kind

1767
01:24:25,587 --> 01:24:29,267
Speaker 29: of player with how he used his speed and that

1768
01:24:29,627 --> 01:24:32,667
Speaker 29: that was kind of how how I see also our

1769
01:24:32,787 --> 01:24:36,947
Speaker 29: team how we want to play to to use him

1770
01:24:37,067 --> 01:24:39,387
Speaker 29: and give him the space, and everybody else have to

1771
01:24:39,707 --> 01:24:42,187
Speaker 29: have to be ready. And I think Parker is also

1772
01:24:42,267 --> 01:24:46,427
Speaker 29: improving now after these eight games, to pick his parts,

1773
01:24:46,507 --> 01:24:50,107
Speaker 29: finding his teammates, and we have our our system how

1774
01:24:50,147 --> 01:24:52,347
Speaker 29: we want to play, and the guys are really picking

1775
01:24:52,747 --> 01:24:56,227
Speaker 29: picking it up, you know, both defensively offensively getting on

1776
01:24:56,307 --> 01:25:01,387
Speaker 29: the same page and and and Melbourne everything offensively we

1777
01:25:01,587 --> 01:25:05,707
Speaker 29: were really good. Okay, we still had seventeen turnovers, it's

1778
01:25:05,787 --> 01:25:09,187
Speaker 29: too much. Almost every other possession when we didn't turn

1779
01:25:09,227 --> 01:25:11,907
Speaker 29: the ball over, we had high quality shots and the

1780
01:25:11,987 --> 01:25:15,027
Speaker 29: guys were playing with confidence, very to make place.

1781
01:25:15,107 --> 01:25:16,707
Speaker 18: But everything starts with Parker, you know.

1782
01:25:16,827 --> 01:25:19,187
Speaker 29: He set the tone and you get to hit those

1783
01:25:19,187 --> 01:25:22,507
Speaker 29: spots and either his course or he finds his teammates

1784
01:25:22,547 --> 01:25:26,187
Speaker 29: and they create and creates those advantages.

1785
01:25:26,067 --> 01:25:28,867
Speaker 2: You've mentioned the challenging start of the season for Tasmania.

1786
01:25:29,707 --> 01:25:33,467
Speaker 2: Are you still expecting a pretty stuff challenge from them?

1787
01:25:33,547 --> 01:25:33,707
Speaker 5: Though?

1788
01:25:34,747 --> 01:25:38,827
Speaker 18: Of course you know they many they lost many games.

1789
01:25:38,867 --> 01:25:41,707
Speaker 29: You know they were tight, tight games, and yesterday also

1790
01:25:41,787 --> 01:25:44,747
Speaker 29: against Berth it was very very tight game.

1791
01:25:44,827 --> 01:25:47,067
Speaker 18: But what they you know, lost in in the end.

1792
01:25:47,107 --> 01:25:50,547
Speaker 18: But you know the team they have, you know, been

1793
01:25:50,907 --> 01:25:53,107
Speaker 18: been together. They are really well coached.

1794
01:25:53,147 --> 01:25:56,427
Speaker 29: Also, they got you know what, uh, like I said,

1795
01:25:56,507 --> 01:25:59,467
Speaker 29: one of the best defensive teams in the league, and

1796
01:25:59,547 --> 01:26:03,907
Speaker 29: that gives them always option to be competitive. They had

1797
01:26:04,067 --> 01:26:06,587
Speaker 29: some their problems in offensive end, but last year they

1798
01:26:06,587 --> 01:26:10,507
Speaker 29: were shooting the ball already much better and very dangerous team.

1799
01:26:10,547 --> 01:26:13,627
Speaker 29: And they play at home, they are always always dangerous

1800
01:26:13,667 --> 01:26:17,187
Speaker 29: and like I said, it's gonna be another another create

1801
01:26:17,307 --> 01:26:19,627
Speaker 29: forty minute fight if you want to take that win.

1802
01:26:19,787 --> 01:26:25,387
Speaker 29: And then we can't expect nothing that comes easy to us.

1803
01:26:25,467 --> 01:26:27,427
Speaker 29: We have to earn everything and go with that right

1804
01:26:27,827 --> 01:26:30,867
Speaker 29: mentality and ready to work and earn everything.

1805
01:26:31,347 --> 01:26:33,627
Speaker 2: I'm having a look at your schedule and after Tasmania,

1806
01:26:33,667 --> 01:26:36,867
Speaker 2: you've got three more away games before you even get

1807
01:26:36,907 --> 01:26:38,947
Speaker 2: back to Spark Arena, by which time you wouldn't have

1808
01:26:38,987 --> 01:26:41,707
Speaker 2: played at home for a month. Then four or five

1809
01:26:41,787 --> 01:26:44,427
Speaker 2: games at home, so it's almost a little bit unbalanced.

1810
01:26:44,427 --> 01:26:46,587
Speaker 2: Would you prefer it to be a bit more even

1811
01:26:46,667 --> 01:26:47,867
Speaker 2: between home and away games.

1812
01:26:49,227 --> 01:26:51,907
Speaker 29: Well, of course, of course, it's you know, the schedule,

1813
01:26:52,507 --> 01:26:54,347
Speaker 29: it's what it is. You know, we can't change that

1814
01:26:54,507 --> 01:26:58,787
Speaker 29: now and it's it is. But of course, overall during

1815
01:26:58,867 --> 01:27:01,787
Speaker 29: the season we love playing in Spark Arena, but now

1816
01:27:01,907 --> 01:27:05,187
Speaker 29: we got also home games away from a Spark. I

1817
01:27:05,267 --> 01:27:07,987
Speaker 29: think the next home game in Spark we played twentieth

1818
01:27:08,107 --> 01:27:10,907
Speaker 29: of December. It's I think it's it's a.

1819
01:27:10,987 --> 01:27:12,707
Speaker 18: Long long time we don't play there.

1820
01:27:12,867 --> 01:27:16,987
Speaker 29: And then this also something as coaches and the staff

1821
01:27:17,067 --> 01:27:19,587
Speaker 29: to try to think how we can keep our guys

1822
01:27:19,667 --> 01:27:22,987
Speaker 29: also fresh mentally, you know, all this traveling and that's

1823
01:27:23,027 --> 01:27:25,587
Speaker 29: also one aspect we try to try to manage.

1824
01:27:25,627 --> 01:27:27,947
Speaker 18: But you know, at the same time, like I said,

1825
01:27:27,987 --> 01:27:30,387
Speaker 18: the schedule is what it is, and now we just

1826
01:27:30,507 --> 01:27:30,747
Speaker 18: have to.

1827
01:27:30,747 --> 01:27:33,907
Speaker 29: Go game by game, try to do our work daily,

1828
01:27:34,067 --> 01:27:38,067
Speaker 29: practice well and prepare for those games. And you know,

1829
01:27:38,227 --> 01:27:41,267
Speaker 29: we showed ourselves also we can win on the road,

1830
01:27:42,067 --> 01:27:44,947
Speaker 29: and it has to be our focus always the next

1831
01:27:45,027 --> 01:27:48,627
Speaker 29: game and try to do the things what we practice

1832
01:27:48,667 --> 01:27:50,947
Speaker 29: every day the best possible in the game and go

1833
01:27:51,107 --> 01:27:52,027
Speaker 29: to compete.

1834
01:27:52,387 --> 01:27:54,947
Speaker 2: In the trip to the United States when you played

1835
01:27:55,027 --> 01:27:58,307
Speaker 2: three NBA sides after you played a couple of games

1836
01:27:58,347 --> 01:28:01,587
Speaker 2: in the Australian National Basketball League. Was that trip a

1837
01:28:01,667 --> 01:28:02,307
Speaker 2: good thing or not?

1838
01:28:04,187 --> 01:28:07,627
Speaker 29: Well, at least everybody was thinking like after when we

1839
01:28:07,747 --> 01:28:10,547
Speaker 29: come back from that trip, we will be you know, tired,

1840
01:28:10,867 --> 01:28:14,547
Speaker 29: and definitely the guys didn't feel feel perfect. But at

1841
01:28:14,587 --> 01:28:17,547
Speaker 29: the same time, I think the trip kind of make

1842
01:28:17,667 --> 01:28:22,467
Speaker 29: our group. I don't know if the right world is special,

1843
01:28:22,547 --> 01:28:24,787
Speaker 29: but you know, you can see the guys are really

1844
01:28:24,907 --> 01:28:27,307
Speaker 29: enjoying spending time together on and off the court, and

1845
01:28:27,867 --> 01:28:31,827
Speaker 29: that's also really important aspect. And you never know when

1846
01:28:31,867 --> 01:28:33,867
Speaker 29: you put new team together, how the guys, you know,

1847
01:28:33,987 --> 01:28:36,227
Speaker 29: how is the group gonna come together? And I think

1848
01:28:36,587 --> 01:28:41,547
Speaker 29: that that is the big biggest I think take away

1849
01:28:41,587 --> 01:28:46,667
Speaker 29: from that trip. How the guys spend time there three

1850
01:28:46,747 --> 01:28:49,867
Speaker 29: weeks together, was forced to do things together and we

1851
01:28:50,027 --> 01:28:53,907
Speaker 29: kind of grow grew as a team. And maybe that's also,

1852
01:28:54,267 --> 01:28:57,227
Speaker 29: you know, the biggest thing what we can take from

1853
01:28:57,787 --> 01:29:00,867
Speaker 29: that trip. And of course it's great the experience basketball wise,

1854
01:29:01,027 --> 01:29:03,307
Speaker 29: but I think like a team chemistry wise, I think

1855
01:29:03,347 --> 01:29:04,787
Speaker 29: that's that's the biggest thing.

1856
01:29:04,987 --> 01:29:06,427
Speaker 2: That's a great way of looking at it well and

1857
01:29:06,507 --> 01:29:09,467
Speaker 2: focus fully on the Australian season now. But Towdi, thank

1858
01:29:09,507 --> 01:29:10,867
Speaker 2: you for taking the time for a chat or the

1859
01:29:10,907 --> 01:29:11,947
Speaker 2: best against Tasmania.

1860
01:29:12,827 --> 01:29:13,787
Speaker 18: Thank you. I appreciate it.

1861
01:29:14,187 --> 01:29:16,387
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you taking the cor pa. Terry Copenan

1862
01:29:16,387 --> 01:29:20,627
Speaker 2: there the head coach, former Finland international basketballer, a good

1863
01:29:20,707 --> 01:29:22,667
Speaker 2: basketballer two. I was actually having to look at some

1864
01:29:22,707 --> 01:29:24,867
Speaker 2: of his footage yesterday on YouTube. He was a player

1865
01:29:24,947 --> 01:29:28,387
Speaker 2: man and he's clearly got something in the coaching side

1866
01:29:28,427 --> 01:29:31,627
Speaker 2: of things as well. Coaching the Breakers too, currently top

1867
01:29:31,747 --> 01:29:36,587
Speaker 2: spot on the ANBL ladder. So Tasmania tonight that is

1868
01:29:36,867 --> 01:29:40,147
Speaker 2: seven thirty New Zealand time. Their next Saturday, Ken's away

1869
01:29:40,987 --> 01:29:44,547
Speaker 2: the following Thursday. In fact, two thursdays after that, Illawarra away,

1870
01:29:44,907 --> 01:29:49,827
Speaker 2: so that's November. December is so packed. They've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

1871
01:29:49,907 --> 01:29:53,827
Speaker 2: eight games in December, including one on Christmas Day. But

1872
01:29:53,907 --> 01:29:55,827
Speaker 2: they also move around. You heard but Terry say there

1873
01:29:55,867 --> 01:29:58,867
Speaker 2: that they're not back at Spark Arena until the twentieth

1874
01:29:58,907 --> 01:30:01,427
Speaker 2: that's against the Sydney Kings, but they do have home

1875
01:30:01,467 --> 01:30:05,427
Speaker 2: games and other places. They take on Melbourne United in

1876
01:30:05,587 --> 01:30:08,307
Speaker 2: christ Church that's on the fifth of December, the ball

1877
01:30:08,307 --> 01:30:10,347
Speaker 2: sort of game against the Sydney Kings and Wellington on

1878
01:30:10,387 --> 01:30:13,987
Speaker 2: the seventh, and they also play at event Finders Stadium

1879
01:30:14,907 --> 01:30:18,027
Speaker 2: on the twelfth of December. So they're all over the place.

1880
01:30:18,147 --> 01:30:20,627
Speaker 2: But as long as they stay where they are at

1881
01:30:20,667 --> 01:30:22,907
Speaker 2: the top of the table then it doesn't probably matter

1882
01:30:22,947 --> 01:30:25,747
Speaker 2: where they play. They're obviously doing something right. So Tasmania,

1883
01:30:25,747 --> 01:30:30,427
Speaker 2: it's a night annext for the New Zealand Breakers twenty

1884
01:30:30,507 --> 01:30:34,067
Speaker 2: three to three. The Fast five Ferns are in christ

1885
01:30:34,187 --> 01:30:36,867
Speaker 2: Church for the Fast five World Series. They're off to

1886
01:30:36,907 --> 01:30:39,467
Speaker 2: a winning start. We'll talk to coach to the side

1887
01:30:39,507 --> 01:30:41,067
Speaker 2: of at McCausland jury right after this.

1888
01:30:42,827 --> 01:30:45,427
Speaker 1: The scoons from the track fields and the court on

1889
01:30:45,587 --> 01:30:47,747
Speaker 1: your home of sort weekend sport.

1890
01:30:47,907 --> 01:30:51,107
Speaker 11: Where's Jason Vine and us talks be coming up?

1891
01:30:51,107 --> 01:30:53,267
Speaker 2: Seven and a half away from three. Just mopping up

1892
01:30:53,307 --> 01:30:56,347
Speaker 2: a couple of pieces of correspondence, Russell sees Jason media

1893
01:30:56,387 --> 01:30:58,707
Speaker 2: and listeners seem to have overlooked the fact that Damien

1894
01:30:58,827 --> 01:31:03,147
Speaker 2: McKenzie's goalkicking has won us both games against England and

1895
01:31:03,227 --> 01:31:06,187
Speaker 2: against Ireland. Not easy kicks either. I think he's a

1896
01:31:06,507 --> 01:31:08,867
Speaker 2: goalkicker than Bone and Barrett Russell. That's interesting that you

1897
01:31:08,947 --> 01:31:11,147
Speaker 2: say that. I think the kicks he landed this morning,

1898
01:31:11,587 --> 01:31:13,587
Speaker 2: for the most part, I think body probably would have

1899
01:31:13,667 --> 01:31:16,387
Speaker 2: as well, having said that that kick from the sideline

1900
01:31:16,467 --> 01:31:20,267
Speaker 2: last week was clutch, absolutely clutch. And did you see,

1901
01:31:20,267 --> 01:31:22,387
Speaker 2: I'm sure you did this morning that one of the

1902
01:31:22,907 --> 01:31:25,507
Speaker 2: kicks he was lining up fell off the tee and

1903
01:31:25,627 --> 01:31:28,027
Speaker 2: of course the shot clock counts down and the ball

1904
01:31:28,107 --> 01:31:30,427
Speaker 2: falls off the tee, the shot clock doesn't stop. You

1905
01:31:30,507 --> 01:31:33,147
Speaker 2: got to pick it up, go back and try and

1906
01:31:33,187 --> 01:31:35,347
Speaker 2: get it over inside the allotted time, which he did.

1907
01:31:36,347 --> 01:31:41,187
Speaker 2: So yep, goalkicking. Just another excellent feature of Damien McKenzie's

1908
01:31:41,227 --> 01:31:44,387
Speaker 2: performance today. Just to quick look ahead to tomorrow's show,

1909
01:31:44,547 --> 01:31:49,267
Speaker 2: Neil Wagner has his autobiography out. It's called All Out.

1910
01:31:50,027 --> 01:31:52,187
Speaker 2: Looking forward to chatting to Neil Wagner for an extended

1911
01:31:52,547 --> 01:31:56,747
Speaker 2: interview just after midday tomorrow. Apparently there's somebody else who

1912
01:31:56,787 --> 01:31:59,467
Speaker 2: wants to start an NRL franchise in christ Church. I

1913
01:31:59,507 --> 01:32:03,307
Speaker 2: think that's three now, three different consortiums who want to

1914
01:32:03,387 --> 01:32:06,027
Speaker 2: stand up an NRL side in christ Churge will drill

1915
01:32:06,107 --> 01:32:08,427
Speaker 2: down to this get your views as well, Grunted. But

1916
01:32:08,427 --> 01:32:11,027
Speaker 2: it's on the show he commentated his three hundred and

1917
01:32:11,107 --> 01:32:13,627
Speaker 2: fiftieth All Blacks tests this morning. I want to reflect

1918
01:32:13,707 --> 01:32:16,547
Speaker 2: on his career. We've got some Kiwi Ferns, Rugby League

1919
01:32:16,867 --> 01:32:19,587
Speaker 2: and some Phoenix men and women as well. Lots more

1920
01:32:19,627 --> 01:32:22,307
Speaker 2: besides that's on the show tomorrow. Thank you for listening

1921
01:32:22,347 --> 01:32:24,827
Speaker 2: into the show today and for contributing. We had heaps

1922
01:32:24,867 --> 01:32:28,347
Speaker 2: of great correspondence around the All Blacks win over Ireland.

1923
01:32:28,907 --> 01:32:31,987
Speaker 2: If anything washes up over the next twenty one hours

1924
01:32:32,027 --> 01:32:34,787
Speaker 2: or so, we might revisit the Rugby tomorrow, or we

1925
01:32:34,867 --> 01:32:36,787
Speaker 2: might not. I think we can leave it fluid and

1926
01:32:36,987 --> 01:32:39,507
Speaker 2: he will probably decide. He's in charge of the show.

1927
01:32:39,787 --> 01:32:41,787
Speaker 2: Thanks as always, mate, for pulling it all together. What's

1928
01:32:41,827 --> 01:32:44,227
Speaker 2: our exit song today? It's finey you know already what

1929
01:32:44,347 --> 01:32:49,547
Speaker 2: it is. I k you hi yong, yilty, y yilty.

1930
01:32:49,987 --> 01:32:52,507
Speaker 30: It brings me great joy to be playing this one

1931
01:32:53,587 --> 01:32:57,787
Speaker 30: on today, of all days. I love it favorite All

1932
01:32:57,827 --> 01:33:01,067
Speaker 30: Black today. I thought of myself.

1933
01:33:00,787 --> 01:33:03,947
Speaker 2: Today if I had the choice to choose the exit

1934
01:33:04,067 --> 01:33:06,267
Speaker 2: song today, this is exactly what I would have chosen.

1935
01:33:06,827 --> 01:33:09,667
Speaker 2: Well in the heats, I love it all right. Thanks

1936
01:33:09,707 --> 01:33:12,547
Speaker 2: for listening to everybody. Tim Beavers out to three. We'll

1937
01:33:12,547 --> 01:33:25,747
Speaker 2: see tomorrow midday back now, bazes.

1938
01:33:25,267 --> 01:33:42,307
Speaker 31: Bring carts, take over, causes silens. We must be motig.

1939
01:33:43,307 --> 01:33:51,147
Speaker 27: It's the same, oh say nineteen sixteen. Any eye, any yard,

1940
01:33:51,867 --> 01:33:53,707
Speaker 27: there's still finday.

1941
01:33:54,707 --> 01:34:00,067
Speaker 31: With Thirtay and their bombs, from their bombs and they're gone.

1942
01:34:00,507 --> 01:34:23,827
Speaker 27: Any eyes a yard, The Diet m tmy Dom, Palm,

1943
01:34:24,907 --> 01:34:32,227
Speaker 27: Doby Talmo Foo Foo Foo.

1944
01:34:32,547 --> 01:34:34,187
Speaker 19: Foo Foo Foo.

1945
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