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Speaker 1: The issues, the interview and the inside Ryan Bridge New

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store US Dogs.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. It is six after five. Great

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Speaker 2: to be with you this morning. Is the Infrastructure Agency

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Speaker 2: Plan the one that the government announced yesterday to much fanfare?

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Speaker 2: Really worth the paper that it's written on? Look? What

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Speaker 2: is the priority going to be for them? Will it

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Speaker 2: be Climate change reducing CO two? Will it be GDP?

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Speaker 2: Nick leg at the Infrastructure New Zealand CEO. Just before

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Speaker 2: six thirty thousand out of fifty thousand teenagers failed n

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Speaker 2: CEO math tests this year. Why that may not be

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Speaker 2: as bad as it sounds. That's after five point thirty

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Speaker 2: Mitch McCann and the US Trump's staff are in a

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Speaker 2: scuffle at a cemetery. I shouldn't laugh, but what is next? Also,

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Speaker 2: Darlene Tana, where is the sympathy from Chloe? It is Thursday,

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Speaker 2: the twenty ninth, off August. At least ten people are

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Speaker 2: dead after Israel launched raids and air strikes and four

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Speaker 2: cities in the West Bank. The IDF says it's a

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Speaker 2: counter terrorism operation, alleging that Iranian funded weapons are coming

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Speaker 2: through the border.

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Speaker 3: There are refugee camps that are near those cities as well,

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Speaker 3: which are often considered by the Israelis as being the

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Speaker 3: center's of violent resistance.

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Speaker 2: Hamas has responded, calling for a mobilization of its fighters

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Speaker 2: and supporters. Two people have been killed and another injured

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Speaker 2: after a tire reportedly exploded at Hartsville Jackson Atlanta Airport

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Speaker 4: The taire itself very often doesn't disintegrate. It's the rim

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Speaker 4: that let's go, and those boats go around the rim.

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Speaker 4: If they were to fail outward, it's like a projectile.

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Speaker 2: It is day one of the Paralympics in Paris today.

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Speaker 2: The opening ceremony starts in just under an hour. Twenty

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Speaker 2: competing in eleven days of competition. The Cheff the mission

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Speaker 2: railing Baits, says, it's been three years of hard work

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Speaker 5: They're just really grateful to be here and in an

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Speaker 5: environment that's so different to Tokyo, where they're able to

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Speaker 5: embrace people and actually celebrate being here and feel the love.

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Speaker 6: News and views you trust.

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Speaker 1: To start your day, It's Billy Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: and Smith City New Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be great to have you on the

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Speaker 2: show this morning, just gone eight after five. We'll have

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Speaker 2: an update on Darling Tanner in a second. Also, Mercury

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Speaker 2: is a little miffed, a little peeved about Windstone Polt,

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Speaker 2: the closure of the processing operations in pay Who. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to that in a second. Two Plus Woolwors the

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Speaker 2: result the one you probably won't hear much about because

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Speaker 2: it's not good for Wolworst, which means it's not great

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Speaker 2: for a headline. We'll get to that in a second too.

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Speaker 2: But first, Ginny Anderson fudging the numbers again. Ginny, aren't

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Speaker 2: you on One News last night? So there was a spike.

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Speaker 2: You know, police go out and do foot patrols and

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Speaker 2: it makes them visible and reduces crime. She's given numbers

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Speaker 2: saying under National they've gone down, they've dropped, but there's

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Speaker 2: a spike in December, and she's compared December to June,

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Speaker 2: and she's saying, look at that, and the reporter to

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Speaker 2: his credit, points out, actually, there's always a spike in June, Ginny,

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Speaker 2: and she says, Nope, the trend is up.

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Speaker 5: We've seen a consistent decline and there's a concern that

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Speaker 5: particularly rural areas are seeing a decline.

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Speaker 6: Nonsense, the cher the cherry picking numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the trend is down, is what she claimed. But actually, no,

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Speaker 2: the trend is up, and there is always a spike

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Speaker 2: in December. So what on earth is Ginny talking about?

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Speaker 2: Giny won't say. Ginny, when she was asked repeatedly, you

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Speaker 2: know that the December spike thing, December spike, she just

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Speaker 2: kept repeating the same thing. Ten after five, Brian Bridge,

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Speaker 2: lots more to come here on the show this morning.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Darling Tanner because who's footing

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Speaker 2: the bill? Undoubtedly we will pay some of that, I

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Speaker 2: So this is the news you won't hear much about. Basically,

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Speaker 2: competition is up. Basically, people are shopping around because of

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Speaker 2: question here is is this public pressure, is this threats

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Speaker 2: When people have less money, they are more discerning with

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Speaker 2: their choices. Coming up next, we're going to look at

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Speaker 2: our police, all emergency responders and how they're talking to

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Speaker 6: News and Views you Trust to start your day.

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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture, beds and a playing store.

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Speaker 6: News Talk said.

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Speaker 2: Be Ossie inflation dart a three point five percent for July.

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Speaker 2: That is down. It was three point eight percent in June,

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Speaker 2: Inflation is dropping in Australia, which is great. Electricity and

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Speaker 2: petrol price falls are behind it. Looking at the December quarter,

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Speaker 2: they reckon. That's when the Reserve Bank there, the Central

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Speaker 2: Bank will start to cut rates by a quarter of

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Speaker 2: a percent. They have been in The retailers are having

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Speaker 2: a hard time. They've been in a retail recession for

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Speaker 2: at least eighteen months. They reckon, and that will continue

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Speaker 2: until Santa comes at Christmas, Bryan Bridge, a new radio

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Speaker 2: network has been set up for our emergency services. It'll

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Speaker 2: see police, fire and ambulance all move to the same

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Speaker 2: digital system for the first time, replacing the aging and

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Speaker 2: sometimes failing analog system. It follows a trial in Canterbury.

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Speaker 2: Steve Ferguson's the director of Next Generation Critical Communications and

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Speaker 2: he's with me this morning, kidday Steve.

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Speaker 7: Sure right, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? What will this actually change for our first responders?

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Speaker 2: Will Will they be able to talk to each other

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Beever, the technology we've got today has done a great

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Speaker 7: communicate together in an emergency situation. They can't coordinate responses.

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Speaker 7: So you've got police via emergency h to hones Sir

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Speaker 7: John wanting to they cannot communicate cat across the network together.

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Speaker 7: This will give them that opportunity. But more than that,

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Speaker 7: it's digitized, as you said in your intro there and

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Speaker 7: can the bad guys. So it creates all sorts of

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Speaker 2: Well, so, because I know that there's some journalists who

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Speaker 2: like to listen in and find out where the you know,

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Speaker 2: to do that either? Is it totally encrypted?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: The good news for first responders and key users, it

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Speaker 7: Today's net we won't do that. So no, going forward,

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Speaker 7: it will be encrypted and it will give the first

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Speaker 7: responsibility to communicate much more easily. Today because of the

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Speaker 7: situation we have with this whole technology, they've got to

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Speaker 7: get quite innovative of how to communicate and not signal

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Speaker 7: to people that shouldn't be listening as to what they're.

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Speaker 2: Doing using lots of codes and stuff like that. How

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Speaker 2: many radios do you actually need to replace, Well.

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Speaker 7: We're replacing the whole network, Brian. We're replacing five hundred

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Speaker 7: radio towers and somewhere in the order of fifteen thousand

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Speaker 7: units that for first responders, we've already this is part

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Speaker 7: of a complementary set of services. So we've already rolled

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Speaker 7: out roaming service on cellulars for first responders. Last year,

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Speaker 7: a world first. Actually were teed up the two mobile

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Speaker 7: network operators and we've rolled out fifteen thousand SIM cards

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Speaker 7: for the first responses they communicate across that network. So

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Speaker 7: we're doing the same with the radio networks.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff, Steve, Thank you for that. Steve Ferguson, Director

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Speaker 2: of Next Generation Critical Communications. It does seem strange, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: We're not strange, but a little antiquated that our ambulance officers,

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Speaker 2: that will be coming to an end seventeen after five.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 2: Z it be nineteen after five great to have your

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Speaker 2: company nine two ninety two the number to text. Fifty

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Speaker 2: five thousand teenagers have sat new n CEA tests in May.

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Speaker 2: Here are the pass rates. Reading fifty nine percent past

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Speaker 2: writing fifty six percent pass numerously, forty six percent pass

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Speaker 2: to get ENCEEA qualifications. On this result, tens of thousands

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Speaker 2: wouldn't That's what it appears on the face of it. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: this year and next year there is a workaround for

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Speaker 2: Chris Abercrombie's the PPGA president, Chris, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Is this as bad as it sound? Because is this

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Speaker 2: who are sitting these tests?

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Speaker 8: So most of the students that are sitting in the

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Speaker 8: where most of the students have been sitting this, some

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Speaker 2: And do you need do you need to pass it

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Speaker 2: year eleven and onwards. Or could you, in theory actually

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Speaker 2: sit your incas and then sit this these tests in

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, So there's no sort of time limit on this.

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Speaker 8: You could do this in your last year at school,

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Speaker 8: you could do it in year twelve. There's no real

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Speaker 8: still dual pathways open for young people to be able

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Speaker 8: to get there INCA literacy and numeracy, but the options available.

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Speaker 2: Do we know what percentage of year elevens are failing

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Speaker 8: Not off the top of me, heait I don't know that,

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Speaker 8: and say the vast majority are in year ten. So

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Speaker 8: some of these students potentially would have been their third

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Speaker 2: And nz QA is saying basically, if you if this

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Speaker 2: child is not ready, don't make them sit the tests

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Speaker 2: because you're stressing them out and it's doing untold damage

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Speaker 2: to their psyche. Well, at least that was what one

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Speaker 2: new Structure Commission, sorry, infrastructure agency that they're proposing with

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Speaker 2: You're on News Talk, said b. At the Auckland High

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Speaker 2: Court this morning at ten am there is a Darling

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Speaker 2: Tana is seeking an interim injunction. It's been sought to

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Speaker 2: There's also going to be a judicial review. The saga continues.

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Speaker 2: And we all know why this is happening, don't we

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Speaker 2: Because her husband's business is in the whole, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: The creditors are owed money. I think there was around

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Speaker 2: like the Greens for a second and take a step back.

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Speaker 2: Here is a Wahani Maldi. She has fallen on hard times.

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Speaker 2: She's made mistakes, sure, though not proven in a court

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Speaker 2: This is how the Greens generally approach issues like this.

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Speaker 2: And what does Chloe and co. Do to this victim?

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Speaker 2: What do they do? They boot her out on the street.

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Speaker 2: Despite Chloe saying this.

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Speaker 8: We are being careful about the statements that we are

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Speaker 2: the implication from these media stories, according to Mercury, is

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Speaker 2: Mitch McCann out of the US.

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Speaker 9: Next, What'll be next to?

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Speaker 6: Next? To get ahead of the headlines?

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and a playing store.

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Speaker 6: News talk said be food time.

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Speaker 9: Job the.

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Speaker 8: Juice line loose said line.

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Speaker 6: Come down now.

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Speaker 2: Pretty four away from six years, so it said the

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to Nick Leggett on the new

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Speaker 2: Infrastructure Agency which is hopefully going to so magically solve

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Speaker 2: all of our infrastructure problems over thirty years just before

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Speaker 2: six this morning. This is not important, but did anyone

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Speaker 2: wearing an open collar shirt. Normally he's all suited up,

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Speaker 2: picture what I'm talking about. Obviously hasn't seen any sun

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Speaker 2: what he looks like. Isn't that right twenty three Way

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Speaker 2: from six. Lots of texts coming in on education. Ryan

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Speaker 2: stopped protecting kids if they fail, held them to work harder.

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Speaker 2: Life is not a constant success story. Jake says, Hey, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: how many teachers could pass the NCEEA exams? My guess

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Speaker 2: not many, if any. Carmala Harris, here's some great news.

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Speaker 2: Mitch McCann's with us shortly. She is finally going to

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Speaker 2: bringing a friend to work. She's bringing old mate Wall

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Speaker 2: a double header. Twenty two to six, Bryan Bridge, He's

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Speaker 2: got reporters around the country Callen Proctors and Need and Clum.

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Speaker 2: A successful return for war Birds over Wonka. Yeah, morning, Ryan.

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Speaker 10: The air Show's taken out the People's Choice Award this

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Speaker 10: week's New Zealand Events Awards, so celebrations for all involved.

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Speaker 10: Christ Church is Electric Avenue won best Music Event of

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Speaker 10: the Year and the Garden City edition of Sale GP

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Speaker 2: There you go and weather in Dunedin today come.

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Speaker 10: Early rain clearing to the odds shower, northerlyes easing and

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Speaker 10: Warbirds Overwonica coming out on top of quite a lot

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Speaker 2: From very cool calm, thank you for that, Clarice Sheerwards

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Speaker 2: and christ Church this morning. High emotions at an Environment

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Speaker 5: Claire yes from both Manafenwa and councilors. Yesterday Ryan the

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Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather today, Claire should be.

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Speaker 5: Nice here mainly find with variable high cloud northeasterly turning

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Speaker 2: Thank you Max Toland Wellington. Max. Another exorbitant Council spend

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Speaker 11: Yeah, more than half a million dollars in fact, spent

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Speaker 11: Bell Gully Law firm PwC as well. Our newsroom has

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Speaker 11: in February as well how the council schmoozed Redding owners

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Speaker 2: Absolute shambles with it today in the capital max.

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Speaker 11: Periods of rain, possibly heavy this afternoon, some very strong

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Neva, good morning, very very chilly and brisk

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Speaker 2: I changed nothing, but it is freezing.

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Speaker 12: I can just tell you. I can confirm that it

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Speaker 2: was it Leo?

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Speaker 2: with the weather today?

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Speaker 2: So let's start with the weather.

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Speaker 12: So we've got showers this morning, then rain this afternoon.

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Speaker 12: Well, is this this bit of a spring story as well? Look,

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Speaker 12: the Auckland Council stop, take this is the bird population

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Speaker 12: here identifies we've got two hundred and thirty species in

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Speaker 12: the region. So of these, thirty four native species are

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Speaker 12: deemed regionally critical while twenty others are classed is at risk.

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Speaker 12: So we've got the black petrel, the New Zealand storm petrol,

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Speaker 12: the Northern coxs petrel. Now they're uniquely found here in Auckland,

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Speaker 12: so therefore they need conservation efforts. Enough exactly, So the

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Speaker 12: council says it's going to use all of these findings

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Speaker 12: and guide that's by diversity objectives, and you know, they

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Speaker 12: just want these boots to thrive. Good bood story. Really,

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Speaker 12: if you're a bird person.

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Speaker 2: If I'm not watcher, Hey, a lot of people saying, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm giving Chris Lackxon too much of a hard time.

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Speaker 2: I just said, did you see him on the news

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Speaker 2: last night? But tell me I just heard you.

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Speaker 8: I mean.

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Speaker 2: It had an open ship, was there a medallion? Medalian?

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Speaker 2: But it was just very pale. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: as most most people a chest out.

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Speaker 12: I would have been looking at that. You know, fake

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Speaker 12: tan man use the fake te do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: He should have done it?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Anda's head.

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Speaker 2: Maureen, who says, Ryan, look in the mirror before you

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Speaker 2: slag off others?

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Speaker 12: Why you you you're quite look at you? You're quite tenned.

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Speaker 2: No, but I've just got a lot of hair on

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Speaker 2: my chest so it would be really white underneath.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just really hary.

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Speaker 2: Because he hasn't got the chest here. But Maureen, I'm

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Speaker 2: not slagging him off. I was just you know, you

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Speaker 2: just think things when you see that.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's all.

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Speaker 12: We're going to have to go back and have a

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Speaker 12: look at the video footage.

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Speaker 2: The blinding light. Neither already maney with us than seventeen

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Speaker 2: to six. Mitch McCann out of the US.

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Speaker 1: Next international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen to six are going to Mitch McCann, a US correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Now there's been a cemetery clash apparently, but with involving

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Speaker 2: members of Donald Trump's campaign team. Mitch, what's going on here?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right, Good morning, Ryan. Donald Trump arrived at

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Speaker 13: the Arlington National Cemetery just outside Washington, DC earlier this week,

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Speaker 13: where he was paying respects to service members who had

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Speaker 13: died during the withdrawal of Afghanistan a couple of years ago. Now,

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Speaker 13: it allegs that two members of Donald Trump's campaign staff

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Speaker 13: had a verbal and physical altercation with an official at

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Speaker 13: the cemetery. Now, it's reported this confrontation happened because the

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Speaker 13: cemetery official tried to prevent Donald Trump's staff from filming

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Speaker 13: and photographing and as section where recent US casualties are buried.

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Speaker 13: Now law prohibits any political campaigning at the National Cemetery,

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Speaker 13: and Arlington had provided their own photographer so photos could

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Speaker 13: be taken. Now there's conflicting stories here because Donald Trump's

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Speaker 13: team says there wasn't a physical altercation, saying we are

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Speaker 13: prepared to release footage if such defamatory claims are made.

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Speaker 13: I Meanwhile, the cemetery says there was an incident and

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Speaker 13: a report has been filed. Soin some troubling news for

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Speaker 13: Donald Trump there at the cemetery.

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Speaker 2: Goodness, Carmla Harris finally sitting down for an into but

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Speaker 2: she's bringing a friend.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 13: It's taken some time for Kamala Harris to agree to

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Speaker 13: do an interview. She's agreed to do one now with CNN,

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Speaker 13: but it won't be just her and the correspondent. It

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Speaker 13: will be her alongside her vice presidential candidate, Tim While

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Speaker 13: so the two of them will be on CNN. It'll

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Speaker 13: be nine o'clock Eastern time tomorrow night, which will air

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Speaker 13: around one o'clock Friday afternoon, New Zealand time. Donald Trump

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Speaker 13: has put out a press release Ryan with suggested questions

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Speaker 13: for seeing in if they were having trouble coming up

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Speaker 13: with them themselves. He wants to know did Kamala Harris

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Speaker 13: know about Joe Biden's cognitive state, why she decided to

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Speaker 13: stop building the border wall, and why has she abandoned

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Speaker 13: quote her radical liberal positions. So it's going to be

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Speaker 13: an interesting interview of Kamala Harrison toon.

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Speaker 2: Waals certainly sounds like it. Mitch, thank you, Mitch McKenna,

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Speaker 2: US correspondent. Great to hear you. People. Republicans, i should say,

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Speaker 2: already tweeting saying Biden, you know, can barely get up

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Speaker 2: a flight of stairs or in a car without a handler,

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Speaker 2: and now Carmala can't talk to CNN without one too.

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Speaker 6: Bryan Bridge quickly on.

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Speaker 2: Karmala Harris actually and the wall, because Republicans are saying

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Speaker 2: that she is now supporting building the wall between the

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Speaker 2: US and Mexico, not quite making Mexico pay for it.

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Speaker 2: But you'll remember this has been Trump's catch cry for years.

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Speaker 1: Now, build that whah, build that whah build that wha

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Speaker 1: build that whah, build that wha build that wha.

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Speaker 2: All right, build that. I think we get the message.

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Speaker 2: So he wanted to build the wall, right, and Karmala

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Speaker 2: Harris has said, no, it is a racist idea, it

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Speaker 2: is a bad idea, it's not going to solve the problem,

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Speaker 2: and it's Unamerican. A vanity project is how she described it.

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Speaker 2: Trump's vanity project. Now, Republicans claim she is supporting the

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Speaker 2: building of the construction of new walls between America and Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Now it's a nuanced story. She's not come out and

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Speaker 2: said build the wall herself. But she is reviving an

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Speaker 2: immigration bill that was bipartisan, So it was agreed between

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Speaker 2: Biden's lot and the Republicans in Congress, and it includes

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Speaker 2: as part of that, which is what the Republicans wanted,

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars for new wall construction. So technically,

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Speaker 2: Karmala Harris is technically now on board with the wall

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Speaker 2: and bridge. Rich back home now and we're talking infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: A new infrastructure agency and a National Infrastructure Plan will

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Speaker 2: be established on the first of December. He will serve

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Speaker 2: as the shop front for PPPs, public private partnerships and

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Speaker 2: any other private investment in infrastructure. Nick leg Gets, the

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Speaker 2: Infrastructure New Zealand Chief Executive. He's with me this morning.

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Speaker 2: Hey Nick, Hi, right, good to have you with us

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Speaker 2: this morning. So I want to know the most important

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Speaker 2: thing here surely is well two things. One is whether

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Speaker 2: the politicians can agree. But who's going to run this

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Speaker 2: this new agency and what will their priority be? Is

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Speaker 2: it climate emissions or is it economic development.

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Speaker 14: Well, the agency won't be stood up until the first

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Speaker 14: of December, and it's going to be rolled from an

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Speaker 14: existing agency called Crown Infrastructure partners which has done a

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Speaker 14: lot of really good work around the country, sourcing finance

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Speaker 14: for communities, administering government infrastructure funding, actually getting stuff built,

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Speaker 14: so it does have a good history. But the new

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Speaker 14: National Infrastructure Agency, which will be the name of the

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Speaker 14: new organized we'll do that additional work and that is

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Speaker 14: be the shop front for private public private partnerships, which

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Speaker 14: will be back on the agenda. And that's important not

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Speaker 14: because every project that New Zealand builds will be a

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Speaker 14: public private partnership, but rather because we just need that

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Speaker 14: as an additional tool in our toolbox. We can get

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Speaker 14: benefits from those. I think that probably we've got some maturity,

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Speaker 14: We've got to mature of the model a little bit

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Speaker 14: improve them. But the truth is that we've got some

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Speaker 14: challenges with infrastructure in this country. I think most krews

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Speaker 14: know that we rank bottom or near the bottom on

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Speaker 14: the OECD for the value that we get when we

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Speaker 14: spend a dollar, and which means you I think we're

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Speaker 14: fourth from the bottom. So we just we just don't

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Speaker 14: extract the value because our system takes too long. Things,

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Speaker 14: you know, we stop start the pipeline and politicians come

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Speaker 14: in and change stuff up.

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Speaker 8: And it's important.

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Speaker 2: So that's the funding. But in terms of the prioritizing

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Speaker 2: what we need to fund, you know, won't it be

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Speaker 2: critical how they set this agency up and what its

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Speaker 2: task is is it is it reducing climate carbon emissions

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Speaker 2: or is it economic development? You know what's the overriding.

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Speaker 14: Well that that direction will come, I mean the government

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Speaker 14: obviously you have to give that direction. The government are

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Speaker 14: very focused on productivity and economic development. Carbon emissions will

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Speaker 14: be part of that, the Minister made Reducing carbon will

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Speaker 14: be part of the Minister made that clear. But the

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Speaker 14: overall direction will come from the thirty year Infrastructure Plan.

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Speaker 8: And this is the problem.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's you know, having five minutes with you

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Speaker 14: talking about it is really important. But there's there's a

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Speaker 14: lot going on here. And what we're saying about this

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Speaker 14: is the system that builds our infrastructure is the thing

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Speaker 14: to get right and it's the thing that we shouldn't

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Speaker 14: have the ting and throwing over between the you know,

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Speaker 14: a change of government. What we need to do is

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Speaker 14: you know, the priorities might change between one government to

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Speaker 14: the next, but the system needs to be sound and

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Speaker 14: pretty secure because when you change stuff, and we know

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Speaker 14: that through health and we know through vocational education, when

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Speaker 14: you change things, you actually stop progress. And the government

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Speaker 14: were really clear here they said, oh, we could have

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Speaker 14: pushed a few more things together, but we actually wanted

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Speaker 14: to keep momentum so we can deliver infrastructure in our

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Speaker 14: first term. And I think that's really important because the

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Speaker 14: stuff shouldn't be party political right, that these agencies should

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Speaker 14: be able to go ahead and do their work and

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Speaker 14: get stuff built for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: And clearly we haven't actually been doing that very well,

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Speaker 2: as you've outlined, Nick Leget Infrastructure New Zealand Chief Executive

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Speaker 2: just gone seven minutes away from six o'clock. It's interesting,

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Speaker 2: isn't it, because when you say it shouldn't be politicized,

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Speaker 2: and you know what, if one government has announced something,

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Speaker 2: then we should just build it. You know, should we

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Speaker 2: have just tinued with light rail just because it had

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Speaker 2: been announced and you know the Harbor Bridge cycle wave

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Speaker 2: thing they can at themselves, I suppose labor, but it

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Speaker 2: is it is difficult to see how you get consensus

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Speaker 2: on some things. Nick, I appreciate your time. It has

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Speaker 2: just gone six to six.

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