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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play a store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, wasn't a Friday six after five? Newstalk said,

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Speaker 3: we're short on pilots if anyone knows how to fly plane.

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Speaker 3: The agenda says Friday the eighteenth of October, Israel thinks

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Speaker 4: The deesy inflationary process is well on truck. The inflation

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Speaker 5: Capture these young people early, work out what's going on

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Speaker 2: News and Views you trust to start your day.

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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.

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Speaker 3: News Talk said, be yeah, a lot to ask Judith

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Speaker 3: cons because she does a lot, doesn't she? Nine two

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Speaker 3: New Zealand takes the next steps in dairy dispute with Canada.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you with me this morning. We're going

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Speaker 3: You know you can't be you can't be putting all

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Speaker 3: Where isn't it happening? Frankly? Earlier this week, China held

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Speaker 3: live from Brussels. Minister, welcome to the show. Oh hi Ryan,

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Speaker 7: So we've had a meeting as well of the all

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Speaker 3: Do you think that NATO's an organization that could ever

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Speaker 7: Well, no one's talking about that, and certainly on their rules.

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Speaker 3: Thet's talk about with your with your Attorney General hat

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Speaker 3: On from a moment, just if I could, minister, the

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm really clear on this. The law needs to

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Speaker 7: And I'm very much of the view that these are

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Speaker 3: Has these solicited general, in your view, overstepped their independence, Well.

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Speaker 3: No, so will this solicit will anything change or is

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Speaker 7: the law must not discriminate based on ethnicity.

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Speaker 3: It was a routine military operation in Gaza. They weren't

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Speaker 3: indnedan Calen good Morning Morning Riot claims that Fish and

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Speaker 3: How's the weather in to end today? Pretty good?

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Speaker 10: Mainly fine, isolated EA showers, northeastlies and sixteen today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, and let's get to Claire Sherwood who was

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Speaker 3: There's a cult coming to christ Church?

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Speaker 6: Is there?

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Speaker 3: Well, not quite Ryan.

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Speaker 11: There is a conference about cults in christ Church from today.

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Speaker 5: She's hopeful that this conference, which.

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Speaker 11: By the way, is sold out, will help to create

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Speaker 3: I'm smelling, ironically, I'm smelling a cult here. How much

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Speaker 7: Oh? I couldn't tell you, but I can find that out.

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Speaker 5: Would you like to go?

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, if these are all people susceptible to colts

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Speaker 3: Anyway? What's what's the weather like today? Clear?

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Speaker 12: For a few months it almost seemed as if we

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Speaker 12: Shake we got a couple of weeks ago that quake,

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Speaker 3: A few days.

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Speaker 12: And then later yesterday cast iron main burst under Vivian Street,

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Speaker 12: did return to locals late yesterday and needed to be said,

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Speaker 12: not great timing. With almost two billion dollars already set

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Speaker 12: aside for water infrastructure in the long Term Plan one

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Speaker 12: point eight billion dollars, that perhaps doesn't seem like enough.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Max. How's your weather today, party.

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Speaker 12: Cloudy northerly, sixteen high central.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant, Thank you very much. Neva is an Auckland, Neva,

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Speaker 3: good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 5: I was just thinking about that cult, you know what

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Speaker 5: Clear was talking about. Yeah, I'd be terrible in a cult.

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Speaker 3: Why you didn't want you? You would follow the No?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't follow the rules. No talking, Neva, no laughing?

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Speaker 1: Oh to be the.

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Speaker 3: Still not happening? Hey, what's happening with the Orcland Council

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Speaker 3: twenty fifty plan?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, the.

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Speaker 5: Twenty fifty there's an update on that one, and it's

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Speaker 5: just telling us that the council's progressing in some areas

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Speaker 5: but staying put in falling behind in others. So probably

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Speaker 5: no surprise there really. So the plan which guides count

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Speaker 5: was ten year budgets showing that positive progress towards just

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Speaker 5: they include the public transport use, fewer greenhouse gas emissions,

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Speaker 5: fewer transport debts. But in fifty one percent of the goals,

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Speaker 5: council has either made no progress, gone backwards remaining goals

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Speaker 5: didn't even have enough data to tell. So Shane Henderson,

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Speaker 5: one of the counselors, he says, look, we've got a

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Speaker 5: lot of work to do around the measures like unemployment

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's cool, townd's good. How's the weather today?

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Speaker 5: Cloudy? No rain yay, and no rain for the weekend

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Speaker 5: Eighteen is a.

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Speaker 3: High fantastic NEV Thank you so much for that. Quickly,

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Speaker 3: here is a couple of clips from last night's press conference,

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Speaker 13: After a thorough discussion abbose delligants who came to the

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Speaker 13: unanimous I feel conclusion to endorse that use of that

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Speaker 3: My caucus, and she continued, I'm the end of the mesoning.

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Speaker 13: Myself and Martima wrote to Darlene one final time and

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Speaker 13: foring her to finally do the right thing and resign,

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Speaker 3: Don't I think there might be a problem with that

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Speaker 3: to talk about the well the pilava really and what

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Speaker 1: Just before six international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 1: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: The Israeli Foreign Minister has just confirmed that they have

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Speaker 3: killed the so called face of evil, Yahya Sinwa. He's

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Speaker 3: the Hamas leader architect of October seven. Vincent mcavini's our

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Speaker 3: UK europe correspondent, Vincent, how did this happen?

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Speaker 14: Well, we, as you say, have just had that confirmation.

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Speaker 14: We know that Israel has been on a renewed offensive

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Speaker 14: the IDF in Gaza and as we understand it, they

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Speaker 14: got into a conflict with a group of Hammas fighters.

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Speaker 2: One of them was killed.

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Speaker 14: They believed it to be Yaya Sinwhar. We saw graphic

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Speaker 14: images online of someone that was suspected to be him

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Speaker 14: lying in rubble of a building in the aftermath of

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Speaker 14: intense military conflict with clearly fatal injuries. Now we understand

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Speaker 14: that Israel used dental records and DNA because he was

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Speaker 14: held prisoner for a number of years by Israel in jail.

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Speaker 14: He was released in twenty eleven and they've now used

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Speaker 14: DNA profiling to confirm we believe that it is him.

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Speaker 14: So this is a big victory in Israeli minds. He was,

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Speaker 14: as you say, the architect of October the seventh, which

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Speaker 14: killed over twelve hundred people. Those hostages two hundred and

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Speaker 14: fifty were abducted, some still stuck in Gaza. No hostages

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Speaker 14: were recovered in this mission. But I think in Tel

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Speaker 14: Aviv they will be celebrating what they think will be

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Speaker 14: a clear a part of their victory in Gaza against

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Speaker 14: Hamas in intro and fascinating.

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Speaker 3: As you say, it sounds almost like, you know, by accident,

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Speaker 3: not that he was particularly targeted, but that he came

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Speaker 3: into confrontation with them. Let's talk about the One Direction style.

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Speaker 3: Liam Payne has obviously died in Argentina. What's the reaction

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Speaker 3: being like in the UK.

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Speaker 14: I mean it was a real shock reaction really because

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Speaker 14: you know, One Direction were globally famous and they were

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Speaker 14: from you know, slightly humble beginnings a reality show. The

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Speaker 14: x facts are on ITV here, and he was only

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Speaker 14: thirty one years old. You know, he had been going

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Speaker 14: through struggles and he'd admitted to problems with alcohol. He

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Speaker 14: had been to rehab. But still for a lot of

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Speaker 14: young people, you know, this is a band that they

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Speaker 14: grew up with. They sold out concerts, they sold out albums,

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Speaker 14: they were constantly you know, in the media on TV

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Speaker 14: four sort of the five six years that they were together.

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Speaker 14: So there's a lot of shock and sadness about this.

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Speaker 14: He had, of course a relationship with Sheryl Cole, the

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Speaker 14: singer from Girls Allowed a few years ago and they

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Speaker 14: had a son, seven year old, Bear Pain, and there's

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Speaker 14: a lot of sadness for that little boy. And of

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Speaker 14: course Liam Payne's wider family and his bandmates and friends.

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Speaker 14: There hasn't been any statements yet from the rest of

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Speaker 14: the band, that's of course Zaye Malik, Harry Styles Nihor

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Speaker 14: and Louis Thomson. But there has been a statement now

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Speaker 14: from his family, Liam Payne's family saying they are heartbroken

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Speaker 14: and that Liam will live forever in our hearts and

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Speaker 14: will remember him for his kind, funny and brave soul

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Speaker 14: is said.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that very said? Thank you very much for an update.

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Speaker 3: Vincent Mecani, a UK and Europe correspondent. It is twelve

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Speaker 3: away from.

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Speaker 2: Six Bryan Bridge, Charline Hanner.

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Speaker 3: She looks like she's going to be given the boat

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Speaker 3: from Parliament all up to the speaker now. The Greens

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Speaker 3: have basically invoked and said, yes we want the walker

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Speaker 3: jumping to apply here. We want to have Darling Tana

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Speaker 3: Woker jumped. Jason Wolves as news talks of Be's political editor.

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Speaker 3: He's with me this morning, Jason, Good morning, Good morning, Rain,

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Speaker 3: Good to have you on the show. So they had

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Speaker 3: a press last night, right, what are they saying?

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Speaker 15: Indeed, it was about nine to thirty last night, so

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Speaker 15: it actually sounds like the meeting wrapped up a little

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Speaker 15: bit sooner than they had anticipated, because it was thought

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Speaker 15: that they'd be doing a press conference this morning at

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Speaker 15: about seven am, but that's been kibosh because Chloe Swarbrick

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Speaker 15: fronted press last night and essentially she came out and

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Speaker 15: said yes, the Greens came to a basic consensus on

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Speaker 15: this and said that the party delegates want to get

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Speaker 15: Darling Tanner out of Parliament and they've voted to use

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Speaker 15: the Walker jumping legislation to do so, which essentially is

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Speaker 15: them saying that they think that she distorts the proportionality

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Speaker 15: of parliament and they've written to the Speaker to suggest

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Speaker 15: as such. So really in the hands of Jerry Browne

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Speaker 15: now and we'll hopefully find out from him today what

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Speaker 15: the next steps are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously had a while to think about it.

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Speaker 3: Interesting the vote though it was all of the one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five delegates voters to do this, and

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Speaker 3: apparently the likes of Materiia today coming back to be

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Speaker 3: quite influential in the vote.

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Speaker 15: The return of Materia today is it's massive. She has

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Speaker 15: been basically absent from the political landscape since she quit

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Speaker 15: politics many many years ago. Of course, she did that

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Speaker 15: in quite a dramatic fashion before the twenty seventeen election,

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Speaker 15: and she hasn't really been seen in public in terms

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Speaker 15: of any sort of political part to play since then.

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Speaker 15: So her coming back is such a shocked surprise move.

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Speaker 15: Even Chloe Swarwick said that she had no idea that

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Speaker 15: she would be making this contribution to the Call last night,

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Speaker 15: and it really just goes to show how deep seated

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Speaker 15: this issue is within the Green Party.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Ryan, you'll.

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Speaker 15: Remember that it was the Greens that were the most

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Speaker 15: strident critics of the walker jumping legislation.

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Speaker 3: Right here we are, but Jason, here we are thing

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Speaker 3: about Matidia two days. There is a woman who was scorned,

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Speaker 3: who left the party because she admitted to the benefit

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Speaker 3: stuff years and years ago. Maybe she's coming back saying, look,

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Speaker 3: if you stuff up, if I had to leave, you know,

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Speaker 3: then perhaps you need to as well.

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Speaker 15: There could well be an element of that, and I'm

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Speaker 15: sure as the days go on, we'll get more details

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Speaker 15: of what it was than Matidia today actually said. But listen,

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Speaker 15: it was enough to get a party such as the Greens,

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Speaker 15: which is so democratized sometimes to a fault, to all

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Speaker 15: come together on one issue like this. And as I said,

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Speaker 15: given it was the Greens that were the ones against

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Speaker 15: the walker jumping legislation even being in place, for all

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Speaker 15: as many delegates to come together and agree as they

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Speaker 15: have been, I think it's actually remarkable that this has happened,

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Speaker 15: and it's really draws a bit of a line under

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Speaker 15: this whole situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a complete sort of moral one eighty in

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Speaker 3: some ways, isn't it. Jason, thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you on the show. Jason Will's News

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Speaker 3: Talk zaid be political Editor. The ball is now in

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Speaker 3: Jerry's court. It's eight to six on.

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Speaker 3: great to have you on the show. Judith Collins was

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Speaker 3: on earlier from Brussels. We'll put that on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: A little later on. Right now, this is Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: talking to a group, a room full of women.

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Speaker 6: I got a call from Katie Britt, a young just

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Speaker 6: a fantastically attractive person from Alabama.

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Speaker 16: She's a senator.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need to say that, does he. But I'm mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just gone now six, so it's

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Speaker 3: still six minutes away from six mikes here next, Hey.

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Speaker 16: Mike Somoir. They've got him, Yes, so he's he's been

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Speaker 16: in the job for what three days, week and a half.

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Speaker 3: Since August, don't two weeks? Yeah, so, which is a

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Speaker 3: huge deal. And they, by the sounds of it, they

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Speaker 3: didn't target him. There was no special operation. They just

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Speaker 3: bumped into these three guys on the street, shot them

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Speaker 3: and then thought one of them looks like, haven't I

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Speaker 3: seen you before? I knew the architect of October seven?

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Speaker 3: And then there are so I wonder.

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Speaker 16: Run clothes on the program. I wonder, you know when

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Speaker 16: you talk to her. I know, I don't want to

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Speaker 16: extend the interview out, but when you look at what

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Speaker 16: they did last night didn't last as long as they

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Speaker 16: thought it would. They've written off to git. Why didn't

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Speaker 16: they do it on day one? You know what I mean,

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Speaker 16: you look too well?

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Speaker 10: Is it?

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Speaker 16: Or is it lack of management skills in a crisis?

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Speaker 3: Really, the interesting thing I think is Mateia Tude coming

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Speaker 3: back and voting, because it was it was unanimous. One

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five of them voted to get rid

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Speaker 3: of Darling Tannet And that's the first time we've seen

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Speaker 3: her come out of the you know, the mist from

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Speaker 3: political oblivion. Is it because she got the boot doing

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Speaker 3: something wrong with she? She quit? Darlene must do the same.

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Speaker 3: I would have thought so.

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Speaker 16: But the interesting thing about that also is whether anybody

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Speaker 16: in that meeting said, look, we've got a lot of

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Speaker 16: people that we keep selecting that don't turn out to

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Speaker 16: be much chop does Has anyone had to look at

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Speaker 16: the sky? You know what I mean? It's it's got

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Speaker 16: that we speak to hr. Yeah, we're not really good

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Speaker 16: at this. Has anyone noticed any of this? It's just

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Speaker 16: it just worries me that one day these people will

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Speaker 16: be in a position of some power and responsibility, and

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Speaker 16: if they bring the same acumen to serious issues as

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Speaker 16: they've brought to this, nothing literally will ever get done

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Speaker 16: in this country.

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Speaker 3: If you think about it, Hey, what's happening this week,

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Speaker 3: and you've got some tai chi on what's happening.

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Speaker 16: Well, yes, I got my ice bath, of course I do.

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Speaker 16: Don't don't ridicule the ice bath, but.

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Speaker 3: I mean every day.

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Speaker 16: There was nothing wrong with that, because if you're gonna

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Speaker 16: do the sauna, you gotta do the ice bath, don't you.

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Speaker 16: I mean it's hot and cold.

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Speaker 3: How many hours are you doing this in a day?

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Speaker 16: But well this is fifteen minutes, last bath, two or

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Speaker 16: three bombs, simple as that. It's like and look at

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Speaker 16: and look at me, look at me, look at me.

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Speaker 3: I look at you, you old cripple. You can, you can? Really?

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Speaker 3: So I have a bad bag. Well there's a sauna

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Speaker 3: going to Texai.

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Speaker 16: Give it a go, Give it a go, and let

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Speaker 16: me know. Anyway, I'll tell you what's big this weekend.

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Speaker 16: You've got to get into Liam Lawson of course, launches

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Speaker 16: in Austin.

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Speaker 3: I won't, but I'll hear from you on Monday. Have

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Speaker 3: a great weekend, everybody.

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