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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders. Welcome to Mattain title f

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Speaker 2: also podcast number two four seven for Thursday, the twentieth

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Speaker 2: of November in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: What a show today. We got to all of our

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Speaker 2: topics for once, which was good.

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Speaker 3: Certainly did black market Siggi's We went deep into the

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Speaker 3: underground black market CIGI.

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Speaker 2: Operation so long ago. That was a great chat, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: It was a great chat and.

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Speaker 2: UNI halls and got a bit of abuse from listeners again,

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Speaker 2: which were we always enjoy wrong for abuse this time

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's sometimes it's acurate, sometimes it's not. And in

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Speaker 2: the middle we did shifting houses, so that was cool,

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Speaker 2: the stories of shifting houses. And we didn't even get

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Speaker 2: to the Museum hotel and Wellington. Yeah they shifted that

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Speaker 2: for TAPPA, didn't they.

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Speaker 2: They put that on ball bearings and rolled it up

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Speaker 2: the road. That's incredible that that's no small feet to

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Speaker 2: shift the whole hotel.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talk said the very good afternoon to you. Welcome into

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Speaker 3: the show Thursday twentieth and November. I hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 3: We're iv you're listening you Matte and I'd just like.

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Speaker 2: To an extend a big good on you to all

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Speaker 2: the people who went to Metallica last night. Good people,

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Speaker 2: what a beautiful crowd. Yeah, what a great experience.

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Speaker 3: How good for Aukland, How good for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking how much I've changed in my life

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Speaker 2: from my young Mitler days growing up in Dunedin, because

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Speaker 2: I rode my little orange bike from my house to

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Speaker 2: the concert wearing a punishing wearing a waterproof jumper and

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Speaker 2: parked it up and attached the bike by a chain

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Speaker 2: to a tree and then went into the concert and

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Speaker 2: rode the bike bike home.

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Speaker 3: You have changed, man?

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Speaker 2: So nerdy I was. I felt very nerdy as I

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Speaker 2: was going through the crowd. But boy boy, so good.

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Speaker 3: Nice way to travel though, I mean, yeah, and out

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Speaker 3: of that stadium pretty fast, and it's a great stadium

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Speaker 2: My dad gave me the buke. He used to write

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Speaker 2: around on it, so it's very it's very rude. It's

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Speaker 2: got tiny little wheels. It's bright orange. Yeah, it's very

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Speaker 2: I love it that it was. It was a great show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll shut up about it.

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Speaker 3: So, oh it's fantastic. Yeah, And I genuinely.

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Speaker 2: Got for Auckland, you know, tilant, I won't shut up.

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Speaker 3: No, you won't know. You won't. You'll keep singing Metallica

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Speaker 3: all day and we're here for that right onto. Just

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Speaker 3: driy to today's show after three o'clock. We won't even

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Speaker 3: chat about the university halls. Is it's still a ride

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Speaker 3: of passage for kids? Are you, as a parent going

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Speaker 3: are saying the cost is astronomical. It's up around thirty

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Speaker 3: So study Link provides around three hundred and twenty three

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Speaker 3: by about one hundred and forty bucks a week is.

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Speaker 2: The ambition, So just short one hundred and forty dollars

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Speaker 2: can't wrestle that up, how keen are you to go

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Speaker 2: Was living in a bank vault on Voge Street. There's

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Speaker 2: it's a fantastic thing. So it's great that the government

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Speaker 2: I think as well worth it. I think, you know.

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's just fine because I didn't go. But

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Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to your thoughts on that after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock, fully furnished, brand new, relocatable home is

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Speaker 3: it's relocatable, so you've got to pick it up. We'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how complicated is this? Because I'm absolutely mesromized

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Speaker 2: because you know, you just you don't pluck from there.

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Speaker 2: You gotta eat the piles, right, You've got to plug

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Speaker 2: experiences on moving houses into spots? Because this one looked

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Speaker 3: Beautiful home starting and open, but it was.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand, but no one wanted it obviously because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've bought a relocatable home, we want to

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Speaker 3: a chat about black market cigarettes. This was after Customs

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Speaker 3: showing smoking rates have reduced by almost seven percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, smoking rates know about, but we don't know about

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Speaker 3: Hence the black and the black market.

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Speaker 2: So do you think we've just made cigarettes so expensive?

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Speaker 2: The other day, Tyler, you talking to a homeless person

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's outside of convenience store down at the

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Speaker 3: I everyone knows my vape, so I had to go,

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Speaker 3: He said some cigarettes would be nice, and of course,

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Speaker 2: So then you went out the back door and didn't

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Speaker 3: The right thing by him. Clearly he knew what he

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Speaker 3: him a fifty one dollar pack of cigarettes and said,

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Speaker 3: But fifty one bucks for a pack of twenty cigarettes.

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Speaker 3: I thought that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: A couple of points on this. Firstly, you terrible enabler.

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Speaker 2: Secondly, fifty one dollars for a bunch of cigarettes. That

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Speaker 1: No wonder.

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Speaker 2: We've suddenly got this huge black market for cigarettes and

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Speaker 2: this growth area for organized crime to get into it.

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Speaker 2: And so you get this situation where we're busting people

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Speaker 2: trying to bring one one point five million cigarettes into

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Speaker 2: the country. So have we just gone too far? And Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because my understanding is, and we've actually talked about this

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Speaker 2: on the show before, people have rung it and sere

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Speaker 2: that very easy to get. It's very easy to get

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Speaker 2: black market cigarette. So if the aim is to get

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Speaker 3: Funnily enough, I think the scigence speaks you there.

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Speaker 2: So that's good to think the less smoking we have,

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Speaker 2: but you've got to balance things out. If it's over

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Speaker 2: the unforeseen circumstance or the what do you call it,

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Speaker 2: unintended consequence of cigarettes getting a lot cheaper because everyone

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Speaker 2: is getting them a black market. Yeah, then then we've

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Speaker 2: arguably gone too far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what do you say, Oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Have we gone

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Speaker 3: too far on texting the Bejesus out of cigarettes? And

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Speaker 3: it's pushed people into the black market and made us

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Speaker 3: a good market for these people trying to import. And

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Speaker 3: if you do buy black markets cigarettes, Love to hear

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Speaker 3: from you? Where do you go? How easy is it

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Speaker 3: to find them? Are their passwords? Are their Facebook message

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Speaker 3: groups that figure out where the black market sigis are?

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Speaker 3: Love to hear from you? Oh eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call? Nine two nine two

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Speaker 3: is the text back? Very shortly? It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

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Speaker 1: talks that'd be very good.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, seventeen past one, we're.

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Speaker 2: Talking about black market cigarettes. Andy says, fake news. He's

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Speaker 2: calling out your story.

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Speaker 3: I've got to clear some things up there.

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Speaker 2: Nope, pets of twenty there's no packets of twenty cigarettes

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Speaker 2: for fifty one dollars and using on the most are

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Speaker 2: around thirty nine to ninety for twenties, maybe twenty fives

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Speaker 2: for fifty, but definitely not twenties.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I do need to clear some things up.

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Speaker 3: I had a few beers before I actually went down

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Speaker 3: bit hazy. Maybe it was a pack of twenty five,

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Speaker 3: you know, I just pay for it and gave the

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Speaker 2: Either way, I think it still stands. I mean six

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Speaker 2: it still stands if they're forty bucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm just twenty yep, and I've just had

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Speaker 3: of twenty five, So there's still a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number two?

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Speaker 2: Call ben black market cigarettes? You know a bit about them?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got to medald buy them. I like a

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Speaker 2: How did you find where to get the black market cigarettes?

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Speaker 6: This is a word, colleague, he's smoking away. I've never

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 6: What do they say? So I tried one and he

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Speaker 6: where do you get them from?

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Speaker 5: Him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a certain dairy in an Asian supermarket and

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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, yeah, I'm going to see that question

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Speaker 2: sharing with too many, too many people. And so would

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Speaker 2: you does that mean that you smoke more than you

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Speaker 2: would have? Would would the if you didn't have access

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Speaker 6: Back because I don't smoke all the time. I used to,

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Speaker 6: And but yeah, it's like there was anything mate, if

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Speaker 6: somewhere else, you know. Or yeah, and just on the

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Speaker 6: cheapest packet of Dailey's I came across, which is packet

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Speaker 6: the twenties or Sporting nine bucks Australian. Yeah, that's Australian dollars.

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Speaker 6: So that's you know, creeping up sixty bucks in his

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Speaker 3: They pretty easy to come by? Obviously you have to

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Speaker 3: of the old password. But for people you associate with Ben,

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Speaker 6: Oh my weekly. You know, you get one person and

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Speaker 6: You're going to say something. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So on the question of of you know, the ciggi's

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Speaker 3: way off. That's that's caused more harm than good, so

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well I've got I've got family members that it's

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Speaker 6: like a decision, you know, I don't like it, but

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Speaker 6: And it's not the first time I've seen that decision

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Speaker 3: I agree, though, I mean, look, everybody's different when it

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Speaker 3: and I understand that when people are you know, they're

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Speaker 3: You want siggies that you're little your little help with there.

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Speaker 3: So I definitely get I understand why people.

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Speaker 2: So I think that someone could be so addicted to

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Speaker 3: Starve, not starve completely, but they would let go of

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Speaker 3: other parts of their life that would be more responsible.

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Speaker 2: To get if you say, let go of the responsibility

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Speaker 2: you know, you spend all the cigarette money or breakfast

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Speaker 2: and breakfast food in the house or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bad parenting, absolutely, but I'm sure that does happen

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Speaker 2: Hey, so beIN is there there's no real risk to

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Speaker 6: I'm just pretty sure, Like, yeah, I'm pretty sure. I've

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Speaker 6: never heard of anyone getting in trouble for buying a

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Speaker 6: big fines for selling them.

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Speaker 2: But we'll three months home, you know, three months in

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Speaker 2: can't see it. Happening.

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Speaker 3: Pretty harsh, Pretty harsh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, as far as you're concerned, you know,

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Speaker 2: you can get them cheaper. There's no real risk for you.

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Speaker 2: You then, Yeah, wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you in this

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Speaker 6: And it's goods.

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Because you get a packet of tailor as you're paying

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Speaker 6: forty bucks for it, thirty two dollars of that is

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Speaker 6: tax the tobacco company. And the theory is only you

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Speaker 6: know that that's putting the eight bucks between them, So

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Speaker 6: the rest is just tax. So you know, I'll pay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you worry that you might be supporting organized

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Speaker 3: Ben?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know this doesn't really cross my mind, you know,

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Speaker 6: to be honest, I just hey, if I can get

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Speaker 6: you know, sort of two peckets for the same price

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Speaker 6: at buying one, why wouldn't you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Ben, we'll just get that code offline there,

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Speaker 2: would you put on?

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Speaker 3: Christ will get that. Our audience will be very interested.

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Speaker 2: So for importing prohibited goods, including tobacco products knowingly an

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Speaker 2: individual up to six months in prisonent or a fine

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Speaker 2: up to two twenty thousand or three times the value

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars for sale supply of unapproved oral tobacco

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Speaker 2: based nicotine products. Individual up to six months in prisonent

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Speaker 2: or a fine of up to twenty thousand dollars. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any specific fine or penalty for

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call. How easy is it to find black

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Speaker 3: situation with Siggi's hairs? The government gone too far and

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Speaker 3: opened up this black market. Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: And read your story before Tyler about buying the homeless

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Speaker 2: person some cigarettes? This text asks Tyler, can you buy

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Speaker 2: me some cigarettes? Please?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sure, I'll buy everyone cigarettes skip get that's how I am.

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Speaker 2: Now get this person one of those sweet fifty one

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the make asking breakfast.

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Speaker 10: We've got a fairy deal to new ships may arrive

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Speaker 10: in twenty nine bigger than we currently have. Winston Peters

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Speaker 10: stitched together the dealies with us. What are the learnings

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Speaker 10: out of this in government for curing services going forward.

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Speaker 8: Well, look, we've got so many examples Transmission Gale, who

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Speaker 8: there were huge delays. We can't afford to have that

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Speaker 8: sort of behavior from central government. Some of the politicians

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Speaker 8: here to gather down way and get the black smart experience,

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Speaker 8: business people, experienced trades people there might know somethings, but

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Speaker 8: that in the future rather than its cost plus blowout

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Speaker 10: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZEDB. It is twenty seven past one. We're

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Speaker 2: Wow, So Nigel says, HAPs I smoke one and a

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty per pack. So that's your obviously

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Speaker 2: the pouch Yeah, houch gee, pers that is skyrocketed. Your

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Speaker 2: port Royal yeah, because this fifty gram is the bigger

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Speaker 2: one run barrels. Yeah, yeah, thirty gram or fifty gra

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks a packet. Rod says, folks,

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Speaker 2: I've got an unopened packet of twenty Derozick. I'm not

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Speaker 2: familiar with that brand, nineteen seventy five red and white packet,

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Speaker 2: thus fifty years old in an original cell phone. Any

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Speaker 2: takers right? Are Is there such a thing as a

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Speaker 2: retro smoke that just collects old brands of retro cigarettes?

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Speaker 3: I hope there is. Sounds like Rod's one of them.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Sally black market cigarettes your thoughts.

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Speaker 9: Heyah, well, they're very easy to get. I mean in

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Speaker 9: New Zealand, as you probably know, it's pretty easy at marijuana.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not a marijuana smoke on myself. I'm a

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Speaker 9: cigarette smoke and I love it. But my friend who

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Speaker 9: are marijuana smoke has put me onto or said to

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Speaker 9: me try some of these cigarettes. They are all well

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Speaker 9: as far as I'm aware, some of these guys are

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Speaker 9: imported by the Asians, Like that's how I come into

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Speaker 9: the country. And yeah, you can get them at a

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Speaker 9: lot of dairies if you say the right magic password.

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Speaker 2: Now, Sally, you say you love smoking cigarettes.

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Speaker 9: Are you smoking?

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Speaker 2: So you're not trying to give up?

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Speaker 9: Is?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 9: No, I just really enjoy it. My grandfather he smoked

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Speaker 9: from the age of fourteen to ninety eight dat of

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Speaker 9: thing that really kills you is not smoking at stress.

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Speaker 9: And I totally believe that. Of course, people that are

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Speaker 9: really enjoy it. And I have noticed that how to

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Speaker 9: give up.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. Running with increased cortisol levels and stress,

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Speaker 2: we'll do a lot of harm over time. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the science is pretty heavy plung cancer and such. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: how long have you smoked for? Sorry?

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Speaker 9: You maybe thirty years?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got you've got You've got

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Speaker 5: Don't you do?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 9: I was actually born with that when I was a

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Speaker 9: little head to answer the simon and everyone think it

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Speaker 9: was my brother, not me, So I was actually born

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Speaker 9: with that. It's it's not from the smoking.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, it's a guest it's a gift. It's a

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Speaker 11: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so you say super easy, you got it? The

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Speaker 3: past word? Is it just dairies or are there you

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Speaker 3: know you mean shamerijuan And I think it is for

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, pretty easy to exist, it not.

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Speaker 3: They like cigy houses. You go and knock on the

439
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Speaker 3: door and say, oh, take a peck.

440
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Speaker 9: I like it to any house. No, not, well, I

441
00:19:35,653 --> 00:19:37,333
Speaker 9: don't know, to be honest with you, I really I

442
00:19:37,373 --> 00:19:39,533
Speaker 9: don't know that much. I mean I have tried them.

443
00:19:39,933 --> 00:19:43,493
Speaker 9: They're kind of they're twenty dollars. The cigarettes ice smoke

444
00:19:43,533 --> 00:19:46,893
Speaker 9: of fifty five dollars and thirty cents. I think they're

445
00:19:46,933 --> 00:19:50,333
Speaker 9: like fear starvers in blue, the guy that the Guy

446
00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:53,413
Speaker 9: that sounded in New York City, and those are super

447
00:19:53,453 --> 00:19:55,813
Speaker 9: expensive and I just love them. So I never you know,

448
00:19:55,853 --> 00:19:58,573
Speaker 9: I mean, I'll go if no one has an smoke

449
00:19:58,573 --> 00:20:00,973
Speaker 9: it downe or blue. But yeah, they're super expensive. But

450
00:20:01,013 --> 00:20:02,812
Speaker 9: the others I've tried with twenty dollars a packet.

451
00:20:02,893 --> 00:20:08,133
Speaker 12: The black market vaping doesn't do it for you, Sally, I.

452
00:20:08,133 --> 00:20:10,813
Speaker 9: Do smoke the icos. Have you heard of that. It's

453
00:20:10,853 --> 00:20:14,413
Speaker 9: like it's like a Japanese design saying I started. It's

454
00:20:14,453 --> 00:20:18,053
Speaker 9: like a little machine and you have a metal tube

455
00:20:18,093 --> 00:20:20,733
Speaker 9: looking it looks like a cigarette, and in the end

456
00:20:20,733 --> 00:20:23,573
Speaker 9: of the tube as a whole, and you put a

457
00:20:23,813 --> 00:20:26,053
Speaker 9: it's called a heat and you put one of those

458
00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:29,133
Speaker 9: into the tube and instead of burning, which you know cigarettes,

459
00:20:29,173 --> 00:20:32,293
Speaker 9: so kept a light with saltzpeito, which is the poisonous stuff.

460
00:20:33,373 --> 00:20:36,573
Speaker 9: But these these don't burn. They heat, so they are

461
00:20:36,733 --> 00:20:39,933
Speaker 9: pure tobacco and a thousand times bitter few and way

462
00:20:39,973 --> 00:20:42,053
Speaker 9: way cheaper. So I also smoked those.

463
00:20:42,493 --> 00:20:45,733
Speaker 2: Yes, so these are these are the the htps. Aren't

464
00:20:45,733 --> 00:20:48,853
Speaker 2: they that that caused the controversy in last year? Weren't

465
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Speaker 2: they with the that was it the government that cut

466
00:20:52,733 --> 00:20:58,373
Speaker 2: exos on htps and people were complaining that there was

467
00:20:58,413 --> 00:21:02,013
Speaker 2: a tax break for the cigarette companies. But the other

468
00:21:02,053 --> 00:21:04,533
Speaker 2: side said that it's better for people to be smoking

469
00:21:04,693 --> 00:21:08,893
Speaker 2: tobacco like that than burning it. As you say, well,

470
00:21:08,933 --> 00:21:09,653
Speaker 2: it's pure.

471
00:21:09,653 --> 00:21:12,373
Speaker 9: It's pure tobacco, so it doesn't have the chemicals in it,

472
00:21:12,453 --> 00:21:14,973
Speaker 9: which which are what caused a lot of the cancers,

473
00:21:15,093 --> 00:21:18,173
Speaker 9: i e. Sualts peas, which keeps the cigarette alike, so

474
00:21:18,213 --> 00:21:20,253
Speaker 9: it doesn't have the chemicals in it. It's just pure

475
00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:23,053
Speaker 9: tobacco and which is you know, natural from a plant.

476
00:21:23,133 --> 00:21:26,773
Speaker 9: So yeah, I mean those are fantastic, but they're like

477
00:21:26,813 --> 00:21:29,293
Speaker 9: they're like a quarter of the size of a normal cigarette,

478
00:21:29,373 --> 00:21:31,973
Speaker 9: and this little thing sort of you put it in

479
00:21:32,013 --> 00:21:34,653
Speaker 9: and it vibrates, and then about ten seconds later it

480
00:21:34,733 --> 00:21:36,613
Speaker 9: vibrates again, which is when it's ready to smoke it.

481
00:21:37,093 --> 00:21:39,093
Speaker 9: And then you keep smoking it and it lasts quite

482
00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:41,573
Speaker 9: a while, and then you it vibrates again when it's

483
00:21:41,573 --> 00:21:47,413
Speaker 9: finished and sounds fourteen dollars. They're fourteen dollars a packet,

484
00:21:47,453 --> 00:21:49,333
Speaker 9: like super chip, but it is the quarter of a

485
00:21:49,413 --> 00:21:52,453
Speaker 9: size of a regular cigarette. But I have a habit

486
00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:55,653
Speaker 9: of smoking and then putting it out before it's right

487
00:21:55,653 --> 00:21:59,413
Speaker 9: at the very end. Sorry sort of half but yeah,

488
00:21:59,533 --> 00:22:02,373
Speaker 9: well yeah, yeah, it.

489
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Speaker 2: Would be people that would would would ask you for those.

490
00:22:05,093 --> 00:22:07,933
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I know there's definitely times. I have a

491
00:22:08,013 --> 00:22:10,853
Speaker 9: very good friend and Queenstown who I won't meet his name,

492
00:22:12,893 --> 00:22:14,493
Speaker 9: Oh oh, she just.

493
00:22:14,453 --> 00:22:15,133
Speaker 3: Got taken down.

494
00:22:15,253 --> 00:22:17,373
Speaker 2: She got taken down by berg tobacco.

495
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Speaker 3: They didn't like hearing that. Sally, thank you very much

496
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Speaker 3: for your call, but I hope you're okay. By the way,

497
00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:23,413
Speaker 3: we won't give a call back and check on her.

498
00:22:23,413 --> 00:22:26,533
Speaker 2: That sounded maybe HTP exploded.

499
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Speaker 3: Figure out headlines with the railing coming up, then would

500
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Speaker 3: take more of your calls. How easy is it to

501
00:22:31,413 --> 00:22:35,533
Speaker 3: get black market cigarettes? It's twenty seven to two.

502
00:22:36,173 --> 00:22:36,733
Speaker 2: US talks.

503
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Speaker 11: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

504
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Speaker 11: with a blue bubble. And then mates died in for

505
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Speaker 11: cargol prison, believed by corrections to be from natural causes.

506
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Speaker 11: The death's being referred to the coroner. The Independent Corrections

507
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Speaker 11: Inspectorate will also investigate. The government says it wants the

508
00:22:54,773 --> 00:22:58,813
Speaker 11: best for young people and research supporting puberty blockers is

509
00:22:58,933 --> 00:23:03,053
Speaker 11: remarkably weak. Cabinets blocked young people beginning treatments from mid

510
00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:05,773
Speaker 11: next month to wait for the results of a UK

511
00:23:06,013 --> 00:23:10,413
Speaker 11: trial not due until twenty third. One and eighteen year

512
00:23:10,453 --> 00:23:13,493
Speaker 11: olds died in hospital after a crash between a car

513
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Speaker 11: and truck north of Palmerston North on Tuesday near bunny Thorpe,

514
00:23:18,253 --> 00:23:21,293
Speaker 11: christ Church as Maya is suggesting the city's temporary Addington

515
00:23:21,373 --> 00:23:25,853
Speaker 11: Sports Stadium could be redeveloped for housing once Takaha opens

516
00:23:25,853 --> 00:23:30,093
Speaker 11: in April. The Education Minister is giving the government school

517
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Speaker 11: cell phone band top marks, but says smart watchers could

518
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Speaker 11: be next after teachers have said achievement has risen. Scammer

519
00:23:39,173 --> 00:23:42,813
Speaker 11: jailed after ripping people off on Facebook marketplace. Find out

520
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Speaker 11: more at Ens and Herald Premium. Back to Matteathan Tyler Adams, Thank.

521
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Speaker 3: You very much, Rayleen. So we're talking about black markets cigarettes.

522
00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:51,493
Speaker 3: This was after a big bus by customs. One point

523
00:23:51,493 --> 00:23:55,893
Speaker 3: five million illicit cigarettes were were claimed by them around

524
00:23:56,053 --> 00:23:58,853
Speaker 3: along with five hundred thousand dollars in cash. But how

525
00:23:58,853 --> 00:24:00,613
Speaker 3: easy is it to find these black markets sigies?

526
00:24:00,653 --> 00:24:02,813
Speaker 2: So it seems very easy, judging by the calls we've

527
00:24:02,813 --> 00:24:05,373
Speaker 2: got so far. So have we just put the price

528
00:24:05,373 --> 00:24:09,013
Speaker 2: of cigarettes so much so high with tax? We're creating

529
00:24:09,133 --> 00:24:13,813
Speaker 2: an opportunity for organized criminals. Grant says, Hey, guys, there's

530
00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:16,333
Speaker 2: another choice, which is give them up. I smoked from

531
00:24:16,373 --> 00:24:18,093
Speaker 2: age thirteen to forty three, and it wasn't that hard

532
00:24:18,093 --> 00:24:20,893
Speaker 2: to quit. Now sixty five, twenty two years without smoking,

533
00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:25,053
Speaker 2: Thanks Grant. One way to give up cigarettes. I read

534
00:24:25,053 --> 00:24:28,893
Speaker 2: this fantastic book by Dr Judson Brewer, who's a neuroscientist.

535
00:24:28,933 --> 00:24:33,133
Speaker 2: Grew up the craving mind, and he teaches mindfulness to

536
00:24:33,213 --> 00:24:36,733
Speaker 2: control your habits. But he's next time you smoke a cigarette,

537
00:24:37,253 --> 00:24:42,893
Speaker 2: concentrate fully on every part of every inhale and every

538
00:24:42,973 --> 00:24:46,053
Speaker 2: exhale of this of the old cigarette yeap. Just really

539
00:24:46,093 --> 00:24:50,973
Speaker 2: concentrate on it, and you know you'll discover that it's

540
00:24:50,973 --> 00:24:55,053
Speaker 2: actually pretty gross. That's his theory. Yeah, it's just that

541
00:24:55,093 --> 00:24:57,373
Speaker 2: we mindlessly do it and we don't read concentrate enough

542
00:24:57,373 --> 00:24:59,053
Speaker 2: on it to really because you can you can taste

543
00:24:59,053 --> 00:24:59,853
Speaker 2: our toxic its.

544
00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:01,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. It's been sometimes since I've

545
00:25:01,893 --> 00:25:04,293
Speaker 3: hit a sigi. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

546
00:25:04,373 --> 00:25:05,613
Speaker 3: is that number to call?

547
00:25:05,733 --> 00:25:08,133
Speaker 2: Alex is quick smoking. I quit smoking when the prices

548
00:25:08,373 --> 00:25:12,373
Speaker 2: to twenty five dollars. Working hospit at the time, and

549
00:25:12,533 --> 00:25:16,133
Speaker 2: there is nothing like a cigarette break on a hard shift. Yeah.

550
00:25:16,213 --> 00:25:18,413
Speaker 2: I bought contraband for a bit, but then I asked myself,

551
00:25:18,493 --> 00:25:20,373
Speaker 2: am I such a loser that I would do something

552
00:25:20,373 --> 00:25:22,213
Speaker 2: illegal to buy something that is going to make me

553
00:25:22,293 --> 00:25:24,813
Speaker 2: sick down? So it was no. Ten years off smoking

554
00:25:25,213 --> 00:25:27,453
Speaker 2: never felt better. Yeah, I mean, when you get into that,

555
00:25:27,653 --> 00:25:30,373
Speaker 2: the habit of smoking, there's always a reason to smoke.

556
00:25:30,773 --> 00:25:34,093
Speaker 2: Like you have a break, you have a smoke. It's

557
00:25:34,133 --> 00:25:36,933
Speaker 2: like an explanation point on anything yeah, you speak for

558
00:25:36,973 --> 00:25:40,013
Speaker 2: me getting the car, have a smoke any success.

559
00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:43,613
Speaker 3: Smoking and driving was my happy place. Yeah, so I thought,

560
00:25:43,933 --> 00:25:45,693
Speaker 3: until I gave it up and realized I was still

561
00:25:45,733 --> 00:25:47,173
Speaker 3: happy was driving most of the time.

562
00:25:47,333 --> 00:25:49,573
Speaker 2: My husband smokes a fifty dollars pack at a day.

563
00:25:49,653 --> 00:25:52,133
Speaker 2: No desire to quit. Yeah, it's like Sally with some

564
00:25:52,173 --> 00:25:54,493
Speaker 2: people that just have no desire to quit.

565
00:25:54,613 --> 00:25:54,853
Speaker 12: Yeah.

566
00:25:54,893 --> 00:25:57,373
Speaker 3: And that's fair enough too, You know that is it's

567
00:25:57,493 --> 00:26:01,333
Speaker 3: still a product that you can buy legally as long

568
00:26:01,413 --> 00:26:03,613
Speaker 3: as you pay a crapload of tax on it.

569
00:26:03,813 --> 00:26:06,173
Speaker 2: I think my issue with this whole thing is we're

570
00:26:06,213 --> 00:26:10,253
Speaker 2: elevating something really lame to the of organized crime getting involved.

571
00:26:10,293 --> 00:26:13,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just yeah, it's just nicotine. It's the name,

572
00:26:13,933 --> 00:26:15,893
Speaker 3: it's the LaMeer strike you can get. It doesn't even

573
00:26:15,893 --> 00:26:16,933
Speaker 3: give you that much of a buzz.

574
00:26:17,133 --> 00:26:20,813
Speaker 2: It's no more buzz than a cup of coffee. Glean,

575
00:26:21,453 --> 00:26:22,493
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

576
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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Straight off the bat. I'll tell you that

577
00:26:26,053 --> 00:26:28,053
Speaker 4: I'm a non smoker and have been so for a

578
00:26:28,093 --> 00:26:30,533
Speaker 4: number of years. But I have a couple of workers

579
00:26:30,613 --> 00:26:36,453
Speaker 4: who religiously buy cheapies, as they call them, every week,

580
00:26:36,613 --> 00:26:39,133
Speaker 4: maybe two packs a week, and in my circle of

581
00:26:39,173 --> 00:26:42,413
Speaker 4: friends and associates and colleagues. All of them seem to

582
00:26:42,453 --> 00:26:46,613
Speaker 4: know where to get the cheap cigarettes from. And there's

583
00:26:46,653 --> 00:26:48,853
Speaker 4: either a supply who can sell them by the carton

584
00:26:49,613 --> 00:26:54,013
Speaker 4: or there have you got to some liquor stores you can't.

585
00:26:54,773 --> 00:26:56,253
Speaker 4: They all seem to know where to go. You can't

586
00:26:56,253 --> 00:26:58,853
Speaker 4: go when they're walking as bould as brass and say, look,

587
00:26:58,893 --> 00:27:00,813
Speaker 4: give me a couple of cheap packs of cigarettes and

588
00:27:00,853 --> 00:27:03,573
Speaker 4: find of other customers. You can't do that. You're going

589
00:27:03,653 --> 00:27:05,613
Speaker 4: to be quite discreet, he might say to the guy, Look,

590
00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:08,453
Speaker 4: give me a couple of packets of cheapies. You'll know

591
00:27:08,493 --> 00:27:10,893
Speaker 4: what you mean. He'll walk out the back. You put

592
00:27:10,893 --> 00:27:14,213
Speaker 4: them into a paper bags, and he's quite discrete about

593
00:27:14,213 --> 00:27:16,733
Speaker 4: it as well. You pay you fifty dollars for two packets,

594
00:27:16,773 --> 00:27:18,613
Speaker 4: or you're forty dollars for two packets and you're away.

595
00:27:19,533 --> 00:27:24,013
Speaker 4: And yeah, to me, it seems like the government want

596
00:27:24,013 --> 00:27:27,093
Speaker 4: of both ways. They want to get the excise tax es,

597
00:27:28,493 --> 00:27:31,053
Speaker 4: but they've got to expect that. You know, there's an

598
00:27:31,053 --> 00:27:33,573
Speaker 4: old adage where there's a supplier, there's a buyer.

599
00:27:35,293 --> 00:27:38,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, absolutely.

600
00:27:37,933 --> 00:27:39,453
Speaker 3: And that is I think that is a big part

601
00:27:39,453 --> 00:27:41,813
Speaker 3: of the problem. Where you lump so much tax on

602
00:27:41,893 --> 00:27:43,653
Speaker 3: and I just looked it up. It's about eighty percent

603
00:27:43,773 --> 00:27:45,933
Speaker 3: of the cost of a packet of cigarettes in New Zealand.

604
00:27:45,973 --> 00:27:48,413
Speaker 3: Now that is going to force people to go underground.

605
00:27:48,453 --> 00:27:50,893
Speaker 3: It's always been a way, whether that's cigarettes or alcohol

606
00:27:51,013 --> 00:27:54,853
Speaker 3: or other drugs, that has always been what history shows.

607
00:27:54,853 --> 00:27:58,853
Speaker 2: And further to your point, Glen, it's interesting in the story,

608
00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:02,213
Speaker 2: you know, customs and I'm not actually sure who said this,

609
00:28:02,293 --> 00:28:04,973
Speaker 2: but it was made quite clear. Revenue loss is significant.

610
00:28:04,973 --> 00:28:08,893
Speaker 2: The evaded tax amount on this cigarette bust as two

611
00:28:08,933 --> 00:28:12,413
Speaker 2: point two million dollars and this HiT's funding for public

612
00:28:12,413 --> 00:28:15,213
Speaker 2: services and sports criminal business models as this is the

613
00:28:15,213 --> 00:28:18,453
Speaker 2: line from the article. So it is interesting that that

614
00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:21,853
Speaker 2: has so immediately pointed out, isn't it that this bust,

615
00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:24,933
Speaker 2: these illegal cigarettes going to the markets, it was two

616
00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:28,133
Speaker 2: point ten million dollars of tax missing out. We're missing

617
00:28:28,133 --> 00:28:29,893
Speaker 2: out on that tax that goes to hospitals, which is

618
00:28:29,933 --> 00:28:31,373
Speaker 2: a funny way to look at it, because of course

619
00:28:31,853 --> 00:28:33,333
Speaker 2: it seems to be on hospitals as well.

620
00:28:33,413 --> 00:28:36,573
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just the other point on that, and I've

621
00:28:36,613 --> 00:28:39,573
Speaker 4: asked them look at these cigarettes for usually the Double

622
00:28:39,573 --> 00:28:44,733
Speaker 4: Happiness Child Chinese brands or Asian brands. I said, do

623
00:28:44,813 --> 00:28:46,213
Speaker 4: they give you the same hit as a packet of

624
00:28:46,293 --> 00:28:50,293
Speaker 4: Rothman's or a packet of BNH And they said one

625
00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:53,133
Speaker 4: of them said, no, they're actually quite mild. I've become

626
00:28:53,213 --> 00:28:56,693
Speaker 4: used to them. But you know, if I can get

627
00:28:57,333 --> 00:29:01,493
Speaker 4: a packett half priced or perhaps almost a third of

628
00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:03,213
Speaker 4: the price of a pecket of cigarettes, well you know,

629
00:29:03,453 --> 00:29:05,333
Speaker 4: so bad. I'm prepared to put up with a slightly

630
00:29:05,373 --> 00:29:06,053
Speaker 4: mild to taste.

631
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Speaker 2: So you from your experience, it's quite well spread widespread.

632
00:29:12,453 --> 00:29:14,653
Speaker 2: So do you think that when we have these numbers

633
00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:17,173
Speaker 2: that are coming in saying that cigarette smoking is dropping

634
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:20,933
Speaker 2: so rapidly, that that is those numbers are really just

635
00:29:21,013 --> 00:29:25,893
Speaker 2: because people buying cigarettes the legal way is dropping.

636
00:29:26,373 --> 00:29:29,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, that will be hard to gauge how many people

637
00:29:29,493 --> 00:29:33,133
Speaker 4: are really smoking. Yeah, it might be just smoking related

638
00:29:33,173 --> 00:29:37,333
Speaker 4: little or consequences of drop, but it's hard to gauge.

639
00:29:37,573 --> 00:29:40,493
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well think if you call Glen Glenn appreciate that.

640
00:29:40,613 --> 00:29:42,693
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

641
00:29:42,813 --> 00:29:45,533
Speaker 3: number to call? Love to your thoughts about where the

642
00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:47,653
Speaker 3: balance is when it comes to text on cigarettes and

643
00:29:47,733 --> 00:29:51,053
Speaker 3: is this just pushing people too? This black market illicit

644
00:29:51,133 --> 00:29:52,933
Speaker 3: ciggies and the name of that book.

645
00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:54,413
Speaker 2: A bunch of people who are texting and us seeing

646
00:29:54,413 --> 00:29:57,253
Speaker 2: the book I was talking about that helps with these

647
00:29:57,333 --> 00:30:00,093
Speaker 2: kind of man habits. And it's called The Craving Mind

648
00:30:00,413 --> 00:30:03,453
Speaker 2: yep by doctor Judson Brewer, and it's one of the

649
00:30:03,493 --> 00:30:05,733
Speaker 2: best books I've ever read. I've read it multiple times.

650
00:30:05,813 --> 00:30:06,813
Speaker 3: It sounds very helpful to.

651
00:30:06,813 --> 00:30:08,373
Speaker 2: Help me give up a lot of stuff. Tyler, a

652
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Speaker 2: lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I've noticed that it is seventeen to two. Back

654
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Speaker 3: very shortly. You're listening to Matton Tyler.

655
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

656
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Speaker 1: on madd Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talk.

657
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Speaker 3: Said, be it is quarter to two and we're talking

658
00:30:23,373 --> 00:30:26,293
Speaker 3: about illicit cigarettes. Customs are having quite a job to

659
00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:28,573
Speaker 3: try and stop them coming into the country. The latest

660
00:30:28,613 --> 00:30:32,253
Speaker 3: successful operation was when they seize one point five million cigarettes.

661
00:30:32,853 --> 00:30:35,013
Speaker 3: This news came out today and around five hundred thousand

662
00:30:35,053 --> 00:30:37,093
Speaker 3: dollars in cash. But they say they're really having to

663
00:30:37,133 --> 00:30:38,973
Speaker 3: step up because they come in and thick and fast.

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Speaker 3: So we want to hear from you. Has the government

665
00:30:41,093 --> 00:30:44,333
Speaker 3: gone too far on tobacco tax and that's pushing people underground.

666
00:30:44,533 --> 00:30:47,773
Speaker 3: And if you do smoke black market cigarettes, how easy

667
00:30:47,853 --> 00:30:49,453
Speaker 3: is it to find them? At eight one hundred eighty

668
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Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number?

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Speaker 5: Call?

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Speaker 2: This test says yes. Every smoker will tell you they

671
00:30:54,693 --> 00:30:57,293
Speaker 2: know someone who smoked to a ripe old age, but

672
00:30:57,853 --> 00:31:01,333
Speaker 2: believe me, most don't. My mother, father, and sister all

673
00:31:01,373 --> 00:31:04,773
Speaker 2: died slow, horrible deaths, gasping for air for years. None

674
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Speaker 2: of them had cancer. It was major organ failure from smoking.

675
00:31:08,693 --> 00:31:12,613
Speaker 2: Was fifty seven. Yeah, you always hear that. There's an example,

676
00:31:13,293 --> 00:31:15,413
Speaker 2: lived to ninety eight. Yeah, you know I lived in

677
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Speaker 2: ninety one. Smoke the pack of day.

678
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but unfortunately that's not how science works.

679
00:31:20,093 --> 00:31:22,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the argument that cigarettes kill

680
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Speaker 2: you is over. They do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Trevor, how are you hey?

682
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Speaker 13: Guys?

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Speaker 3: Ho are you you good?

684
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Speaker 9: Mate?

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon about the black market?

686
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Speaker 13: Siggi's well, I mean I would like to know the

687
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Speaker 13: rule vide, but I'm one singing of that one gang.

688
00:31:36,133 --> 00:31:38,053
Speaker 13: What if you call them is you know I had

689
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Speaker 13: that amount of cash and we'll call that was caught

690
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Speaker 13: with that? Wheny amount of cigarettes, you'd have to think

691
00:31:44,293 --> 00:31:46,933
Speaker 13: it's in one hundreds of millions, and you know what

692
00:31:47,053 --> 00:31:50,213
Speaker 13: I find ironic about this in three or five years,

693
00:31:50,413 --> 00:31:54,853
Speaker 13: wouldn't be amazing if the government officials and health work

694
00:31:54,853 --> 00:31:57,933
Speaker 13: would say, let's take the sale of cigarettes and nicotine

695
00:31:57,973 --> 00:32:01,013
Speaker 13: out of the gang and the criminals and put it

696
00:32:01,013 --> 00:32:03,093
Speaker 13: in the government's hand to have better control of it.

697
00:32:03,653 --> 00:32:06,693
Speaker 13: And that's exactly what we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: With drugs, of course, but we're reversing this.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we've got you've got a very good control

700
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Speaker 13: of it now, haven't you.

701
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Speaker 2: And you know, that's a really interesting point you're making.

702
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Speaker 13: And I tell you it'll happened because people will come

703
00:32:21,733 --> 00:32:23,453
Speaker 13: out and they say, oh, they're selling it to and

704
00:32:23,533 --> 00:32:25,373
Speaker 13: I know, dear is sell it the young people. Oh

705
00:32:25,453 --> 00:32:27,733
Speaker 13: that gangs don't care. They sell it the young people.

706
00:32:27,733 --> 00:32:30,693
Speaker 13: We don't know the quality of the tobacco because you know,

707
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Speaker 13: I presume accepted in New Zealand their standards to meet.

708
00:32:34,933 --> 00:32:38,493
Speaker 13: And I just see this to being exactly what we're

709
00:32:38,533 --> 00:32:41,253
Speaker 13: calling for with drugs. But the government letting it go

710
00:32:41,653 --> 00:32:42,973
Speaker 13: and making it go to the games.

711
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Speaker 7: It's just ridiculous.

712
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we It's interesting. It's easy money for the gangs,

713
00:32:47,773 --> 00:32:48,893
Speaker 2: isn't it as well?

714
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Speaker 5: Of course?

715
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean five hundred five hundred thousand dollars cash.

716
00:32:53,093 --> 00:32:54,693
Speaker 13: I don't know how many people there. I mean that's

717
00:32:54,693 --> 00:32:57,493
Speaker 13: probably equal your too salary, but I mean five hundred

718
00:32:57,533 --> 00:32:59,893
Speaker 13: thousand in cash, it's quite a bit of money. So

719
00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:03,493
Speaker 13: you know, you think you think the income to be amazing,

720
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Speaker 13: but I just find it.

721
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Speaker 5: Are on it.

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Speaker 13: The call will be let's take it out of their hands,

723
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Speaker 13: the criminals and warlorough.

724
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Speaker 2: Let's let's take it out of the hands of dairy

725
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Speaker 2: owners with all the regulation and put it in the

726
00:33:15,093 --> 00:33:20,333
Speaker 2: hands of gams. Your point. Appreciate it. Oh sorry, mate,

727
00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:23,013
Speaker 2: you had something else to say? Sorry, Oh he can't

728
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Speaker 2: burger uh trigger happy on the button. Something has to say.

729
00:33:27,293 --> 00:33:28,773
Speaker 3: Trivill is a good man. He understands.

730
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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, we're a move here. Love your show men. Look,

731
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Speaker 2: I gave up smoking maybe twenty years ago. I couldn't

732
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Speaker 2: afford it back then. I ended up vaping for about

733
00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:39,253
Speaker 2: five years. I gave up five years ago. Now all

734
00:33:39,253 --> 00:33:41,333
Speaker 2: I have to do is give up drinking, which is

735
00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:44,093
Speaker 2: going to be the hardest on. We're always trying to

736
00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:46,173
Speaker 2: be a better person. Yeah, day to day.

737
00:33:46,333 --> 00:33:48,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you got to have a few few

738
00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:50,573
Speaker 3: sons in your life, though, don't you just a couple

739
00:33:50,573 --> 00:33:52,733
Speaker 3: of things to poison the soul.

740
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Speaker 2: I am no one. I'm the only person that can

741
00:33:56,333 --> 00:34:02,253
Speaker 2: cast stones because I right. I quit smoking four years

742
00:34:02,253 --> 00:34:04,013
Speaker 2: ago by listening to Alan Carr's book. Yeah, a lot

743
00:34:04,013 --> 00:34:06,253
Speaker 2: of people have success with that. I did not have

744
00:34:06,333 --> 00:34:07,893
Speaker 2: a want to quit, but at the end of the book,

745
00:34:07,893 --> 00:34:10,332
Speaker 2: I didn't another one up again. Smoke the whole way

746
00:34:10,373 --> 00:34:12,692
Speaker 2: through listening to it. I highly recommend.

747
00:34:12,893 --> 00:34:15,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of good results from that book. Right,

748
00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:17,172
Speaker 3: it is eleven minutes to two. We're going to take

749
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Speaker 3: a few more calls on this. After some messages. Oh,

750
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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, we're gonna have a chat

751
00:34:22,413 --> 00:34:25,173
Speaker 3: to be in here. Reckons, black market Siggi's taste like crap.

752
00:34:25,533 --> 00:34:27,613
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, Well it's coming up.

753
00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:32,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on. Oh, eight

754
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

755
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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons news talks be.

756
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Speaker 3: Afternoons seven to two. We're talking about black markets cigarettes.

757
00:34:42,133 --> 00:34:44,813
Speaker 3: How how easy rather are they to find? Can you

758
00:34:44,853 --> 00:34:45,453
Speaker 3: get your thoughts?

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00:34:45,773 --> 00:34:47,652
Speaker 2: This is a very wise person that's texts this thing.

760
00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:52,772
Speaker 2: Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life,

761
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Speaker 2: and you will call it fate bean Carl Jung, isn't it?

762
00:34:55,733 --> 00:34:56,213
Speaker 3: I think it is.

763
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great quote. That's the thing. So a

764
00:34:59,373 --> 00:35:02,453
Speaker 2: lot of these habits that we have, like smoking cigarettes,

765
00:35:02,453 --> 00:35:05,333
Speaker 2: it's because we do them unconsciously. We think we're relaxing,

766
00:35:05,493 --> 00:35:08,213
Speaker 2: we think we're celebrating. There's always a reason to have

767
00:35:08,213 --> 00:35:10,533
Speaker 2: a cigarette to wake you up, to calm you down.

768
00:35:11,533 --> 00:35:13,053
Speaker 2: The cigarette isn't doing any of those things.

769
00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:14,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all nonsense.

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00:35:14,333 --> 00:35:18,133
Speaker 2: And so if you try making the cigarette smoking conscious

771
00:35:18,173 --> 00:35:21,853
Speaker 2: by focusing on every single part of it while you're smoking,

772
00:35:21,893 --> 00:35:24,493
Speaker 2: the taste in your mouth, the experience of the smoke

773
00:35:24,533 --> 00:35:26,533
Speaker 2: and your lungs, all those kind of things, it's a

774
00:35:26,613 --> 00:35:30,252
Speaker 2: very different experience than just slamming cigarettes and drifting off

775
00:35:30,293 --> 00:35:34,533
Speaker 2: and holding two fingers up to yesterday and thinking about life. Yeah,

776
00:35:34,613 --> 00:35:36,453
Speaker 2: if you focus on the cigarette, it's very differ experience.

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00:35:36,453 --> 00:35:37,853
Speaker 2: The same with a pack of chips. You've got a

778
00:35:37,853 --> 00:35:40,533
Speaker 2: family sized packet of chips crisps and you're just eating

779
00:35:40,573 --> 00:35:42,573
Speaker 2: them mindlessly while you're watching the TV. It's a very

780
00:35:42,613 --> 00:35:45,293
Speaker 2: different experience than if you taste every one of those chips.

781
00:35:45,373 --> 00:35:48,013
Speaker 2: You won't get through family sized packs of chips. If

782
00:35:48,013 --> 00:35:49,813
Speaker 2: you concentrate on every chip, it gets too much.

783
00:35:49,893 --> 00:35:51,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like in that Alan cardbook and he talks

784
00:35:51,893 --> 00:35:54,292
Speaker 3: about the little monster and the big monster. The little

785
00:35:54,333 --> 00:35:57,093
Speaker 3: monster is the nicotine. The big monster is sorting out

786
00:35:57,093 --> 00:35:58,013
Speaker 3: your unconscious brain.

787
00:35:58,773 --> 00:36:03,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Ben, welcome to the show. Speaking of the

788
00:36:03,093 --> 00:36:06,613
Speaker 2: taste of cigarettes, your thoughts on the black market.

789
00:36:06,373 --> 00:36:12,973
Speaker 14: Once, Look, yeah, they need to change the brand that

790
00:36:13,053 --> 00:36:16,493
Speaker 14: they bring in. There's something that's a bit more. I'd

791
00:36:16,493 --> 00:36:21,853
Speaker 14: be right behind them. It's only only they were tasting good.

792
00:36:22,133 --> 00:36:24,333
Speaker 3: So it's a quality issue for you, Ben.

793
00:36:25,533 --> 00:36:28,813
Speaker 14: Yeah, the old double all them double happiness. But that

794
00:36:29,133 --> 00:36:35,373
Speaker 14: doesn't work. That's severitizing, definitely sitizing that that should be illegal.

795
00:36:35,053 --> 00:36:35,733
Speaker 3: Not not even s.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and there's there's a few other brand. I think

797
00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:46,333
Speaker 14: there was muh, what's it called Fasachi or something or

798
00:36:46,493 --> 00:36:50,453
Speaker 14: lots of Yeah, but they just have this actually disgusting

799
00:36:50,533 --> 00:36:54,973
Speaker 14: arter taste. But yeah, it's just so so easy to

800
00:36:54,973 --> 00:36:55,413
Speaker 14: get older.

801
00:36:57,053 --> 00:36:57,933
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:36:58,093 --> 00:37:01,933
Speaker 14: Uh but no that that should be illegal. But no,

803
00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:03,893
Speaker 14: old old back it because what I said, I was

804
00:37:04,053 --> 00:37:06,573
Speaker 14: on the smoker and proud of that. I have been

805
00:37:06,573 --> 00:37:08,133
Speaker 14: doing that for a long time and I must be.

806
00:37:08,693 --> 00:37:12,253
Speaker 14: I'll buy two fifty grand packets a week, So I'm

807
00:37:12,453 --> 00:37:17,453
Speaker 14: smoking nearly a mortgage, yeah, pretty much mortgage on our house.

808
00:37:17,493 --> 00:37:20,973
Speaker 14: But like I said, you know, it's just got me

809
00:37:21,093 --> 00:37:22,773
Speaker 14: by the Jacobs and then I enjoy it.

810
00:37:22,893 --> 00:37:24,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough to go.

811
00:37:24,453 --> 00:37:26,613
Speaker 2: It's good as by the Jacobs, but he enjoys it.

812
00:37:27,013 --> 00:37:29,093
Speaker 2: The sex is living with this. A loved one with

813
00:37:29,173 --> 00:37:33,893
Speaker 2: lung cancer has to be the ultimate smoking cessation cessation tool,

814
00:37:34,253 --> 00:37:36,413
Speaker 2: but unfortunately it's too late by then. I know not

815
00:37:36,453 --> 00:37:39,453
Speaker 2: a single smoker who hears this will take any notice

816
00:37:39,453 --> 00:37:41,253
Speaker 2: of me, and it saddens me. I know there are

817
00:37:41,293 --> 00:37:43,373
Speaker 2: plenty of things in life that will kill you. Why

818
00:37:43,413 --> 00:37:46,133
Speaker 2: I choose to add another one? Just stop it? That's

819
00:37:46,173 --> 00:37:50,213
Speaker 2: from Henry Sound advice. Yeah yeah, but this text has

820
00:37:50,213 --> 00:37:52,013
Speaker 2: said I'm with Sally too, no desire to quit. My

821
00:37:52,053 --> 00:37:55,013
Speaker 2: wife is saying too, So we buy contraband six. Don't

822
00:37:55,093 --> 00:37:57,212
Speaker 2: understand why the government makes so much tax on them,

823
00:37:57,453 --> 00:38:01,173
Speaker 2: leading to people not only supporting illegal groups selling smuggled cigarettes,

824
00:38:01,213 --> 00:38:04,133
Speaker 2: but also store owners getting harmed killed with dairy and

825
00:38:04,173 --> 00:38:08,133
Speaker 2: gas station robberies. If they drop their tax cut to

826
00:38:08,173 --> 00:38:10,413
Speaker 2: some poured a twenty dollars sale price, this would stop

827
00:38:10,453 --> 00:38:12,253
Speaker 2: the black market cigarettes as well as a threat of

828
00:38:12,293 --> 00:38:14,813
Speaker 2: injury or harm to store owners. A few more people

829
00:38:14,853 --> 00:38:16,893
Speaker 2: may take up the habit for sure, but the other

830
00:38:17,013 --> 00:38:20,213
Speaker 2: non smoking schemes appear to be working. This this is a text.

831
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Speaker 2: Well it's interesting. I mean, cigarette smoking is terrible for you,

832
00:38:24,093 --> 00:38:26,493
Speaker 2: will kill you. But cigarettes have now become so expensive

833
00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:29,093
Speaker 2: through tax that gangs now profit by smuggling and selling

834
00:38:29,133 --> 00:38:31,373
Speaker 2: them cheaply on the black market. And that's not good either.

835
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Speaker 5: Is it.

836
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Speaker 3: It's a strange world. Oh and just quickly, Sally was

837
00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:35,693
Speaker 3: all right, we rang her back. If you heard Sally,

838
00:38:35,773 --> 00:38:37,973
Speaker 3: and she sounded like she was cut off by big tobacco.

839
00:38:38,133 --> 00:38:40,413
Speaker 3: She just robbed her phone. Okay, good, Yeah, yesh, Sally's fine.

840
00:38:40,453 --> 00:38:41,573
Speaker 2: Sure she might have been taken out.

841
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:44,413
Speaker 3: Yeah right, good discussion. After two o'clock, let's have a

842
00:38:44,493 --> 00:38:47,772
Speaker 3: chat about relocatable homes. If you bought a relocatable home,

843
00:38:47,933 --> 00:38:50,453
Speaker 3: did you get a good discount and how did you

844
00:38:50,693 --> 00:38:52,733
Speaker 3: get it to the piece of land? That's next.

845
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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

846
00:38:58,173 --> 00:39:00,013
Speaker 1: afternoons used talk.

847
00:38:59,973 --> 00:39:06,333
Speaker 3: Zib News talks ed Bee welcome back into the show.

848
00:39:06,373 --> 00:39:08,453
Speaker 3: It is six pass too great deb you come is

849
00:39:08,453 --> 00:39:10,933
Speaker 3: always thanks for giving us a lesson. It's going to

850
00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:11,613
Speaker 3: be an interesting check.

851
00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:12,212
Speaker 2: We want to talk.

852
00:39:12,133 --> 00:39:16,333
Speaker 3: About relocatable homes. This is after a very beautiful relocatable

853
00:39:16,373 --> 00:39:18,292
Speaker 3: home is on the market right now for just under

854
00:39:18,293 --> 00:39:21,813
Speaker 3: four hundred thousand dollars. Three better includes all the furnishings,

855
00:39:22,333 --> 00:39:24,373
Speaker 3: and it's getting a bit of buzz online because a

856
00:39:24,373 --> 00:39:26,493
Speaker 3: lot of first time buyers and people looking for a

857
00:39:26,693 --> 00:39:28,733
Speaker 3: good dealer eye in that app saying, hey, that is

858
00:39:28,773 --> 00:39:31,212
Speaker 3: a heck of a price for a beautiful, brand new

859
00:39:31,293 --> 00:39:33,093
Speaker 3: three be a bedroom home.

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00:39:33,493 --> 00:39:33,853
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:39:34,053 --> 00:39:36,573
Speaker 2: The only problem is, it says as we're is Yes,

862
00:39:36,773 --> 00:39:38,573
Speaker 2: you've got to then have it on the back of

863
00:39:39,093 --> 00:39:39,573
Speaker 2: a truck.

864
00:39:39,693 --> 00:39:41,293
Speaker 3: You've got to find a home for the home, move.

865
00:39:41,173 --> 00:39:45,053
Speaker 2: It across town and plug everything. So how annoying is

866
00:39:45,093 --> 00:39:46,573
Speaker 2: that part of it. We'd love to hear from people

867
00:39:46,613 --> 00:39:50,973
Speaker 2: that have relocated homes, whether it's a great option or

868
00:39:51,013 --> 00:39:52,253
Speaker 2: it's a massive headache.

869
00:39:52,373 --> 00:39:54,533
Speaker 3: Yeah.

870
00:39:54,573 --> 00:39:57,893
Speaker 2: Andy Ellis's show Moving Houses on TV and DE that's

871
00:39:57,933 --> 00:39:58,373
Speaker 2: a great show.

872
00:39:58,373 --> 00:40:00,692
Speaker 3: It's a massive operation, isn't it what those fellas do.

873
00:40:01,893 --> 00:40:03,933
Speaker 3: I imagine there's not too many people out there that can

874
00:40:04,013 --> 00:40:05,973
Speaker 3: do that. I mean, there must be somebody in each

875
00:40:06,013 --> 00:40:08,653
Speaker 3: of the major regions because a lot of people do

876
00:40:08,693 --> 00:40:11,573
Speaker 3: buy relocatable homes, but it's niche.

877
00:40:11,853 --> 00:40:13,573
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I found out that people

878
00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:15,813
Speaker 2: did it. It blew my absolute mind as a kid, my

879
00:40:15,893 --> 00:40:18,493
Speaker 2: dad telling me about it. That people put homes on

880
00:40:18,653 --> 00:40:21,652
Speaker 2: trucks and move them to other places and then sit

881
00:40:21,693 --> 00:40:23,573
Speaker 2: them up, set them up. It's it's crazy.

882
00:40:23,653 --> 00:40:24,413
Speaker 3: It is incredible.

883
00:40:24,533 --> 00:40:28,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really cool. But it's obviously I mean

884
00:40:28,733 --> 00:40:31,093
Speaker 2: that this place is this place that was on sale,

885
00:40:31,133 --> 00:40:37,093
Speaker 2: that didn't sell, this charity house. It was absolutely decked out.

886
00:40:37,573 --> 00:40:42,013
Speaker 2: Everything was good to go, all plugged. Dar was it furnished.

887
00:40:42,093 --> 00:40:44,213
Speaker 2: It's not a good idea to let it's not.

888
00:40:44,373 --> 00:40:46,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably take the furniture out. It is, it is

889
00:40:46,293 --> 00:40:48,373
Speaker 3: fully furnished. But take your couches out before.

890
00:40:48,173 --> 00:40:53,973
Speaker 2: You the crystal out of the yeah, out of the cupboards,

891
00:40:54,013 --> 00:40:54,933
Speaker 2: before you move the house.

892
00:40:55,053 --> 00:40:56,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, because what would you know, I'm just looking at

893
00:40:56,493 --> 00:40:56,853
Speaker 3: a photo.

894
00:40:56,893 --> 00:40:57,093
Speaker 13: Now.

895
00:40:57,133 --> 00:40:59,613
Speaker 3: You need to do a fair bit of work to

896
00:40:59,613 --> 00:41:01,173
Speaker 3: get that on a truck. Wouldn't you take out all

897
00:41:01,173 --> 00:41:03,133
Speaker 3: the lighting? I don't know. I mean I've done it before.

898
00:41:03,173 --> 00:41:06,652
Speaker 2: You have my experience. A toilet so is only only

899
00:41:06,693 --> 00:41:08,853
Speaker 2: as good as a plumbing. It's all very well having

900
00:41:08,853 --> 00:41:13,333
Speaker 2: a fully operator fully decked our bathroom, but if the

901
00:41:13,333 --> 00:41:15,292
Speaker 2: pipes don't go anywhere, it makes a terrible mess.

902
00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:16,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a big part of it.

903
00:41:16,413 --> 00:41:18,453
Speaker 2: I mean a couple of weeks, sure like that, but

904
00:41:18,573 --> 00:41:19,812
Speaker 2: over time it's not a good option.

905
00:41:20,373 --> 00:41:22,573
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number

906
00:41:22,573 --> 00:41:24,812
Speaker 3: to call it? If you had just a relocatable home,

907
00:41:24,973 --> 00:41:26,933
Speaker 3: what was the process like and did you get a

908
00:41:26,933 --> 00:41:29,613
Speaker 3: good discount? Obviously you need the land as well, but

909
00:41:29,613 --> 00:41:31,693
Speaker 3: for a lot of people they've got a bit of space,

910
00:41:31,973 --> 00:41:34,252
Speaker 3: and you know, with the granny flat rules as well,

911
00:41:34,573 --> 00:41:36,733
Speaker 3: I imagined the old relocatable home to wake one of those

912
00:41:36,773 --> 00:41:38,933
Speaker 3: on your beat section might be an option for people

913
00:41:38,933 --> 00:41:39,293
Speaker 3: out there.

914
00:41:40,133 --> 00:41:42,053
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there must be towns that a bit of

915
00:41:42,053 --> 00:41:44,453
Speaker 2: for relocation, right I imagine trying to relocate a house in

916
00:41:44,493 --> 00:41:48,533
Speaker 2: Wellington would be a punish yeah, because up your windy hills.

917
00:41:48,693 --> 00:41:52,693
Speaker 2: You know Christ's great relocation place right easy Hens that

918
00:41:52,853 --> 00:41:53,933
Speaker 2: huge build up of homes in.

919
00:41:53,973 --> 00:41:56,173
Speaker 3: Rolliston, nice and flat cream me if I'm wrong, But

920
00:41:56,213 --> 00:41:58,253
Speaker 3: wasn't there a story not so long ago about they

921
00:41:58,253 --> 00:42:00,652
Speaker 3: were relocating a house and it got stuck and as

922
00:42:00,693 --> 00:42:03,013
Speaker 3: it was trying to go through the Mountain Victoria Tunnel.

923
00:42:04,653 --> 00:42:06,813
Speaker 3: I mean, god knows, I'll try and find that story.

924
00:42:06,973 --> 00:42:08,773
Speaker 2: You'd measure it, right, do you think so?

925
00:42:08,973 --> 00:42:11,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys must have been cowboys. I mean, there's

926
00:42:11,293 --> 00:42:14,093
Speaker 3: a lot of trust involved in picking who's going to relocate.

927
00:42:13,773 --> 00:42:16,133
Speaker 2: Its measuring and then measuring. I've been involved in this

928
00:42:16,173 --> 00:42:18,973
Speaker 2: steal recently where a friend's son needed a fridge for

929
00:42:19,013 --> 00:42:21,333
Speaker 2: his flat and I had a fridge, and I measured

930
00:42:21,413 --> 00:42:23,173
Speaker 2: up and I sent them the measurements and then I

931
00:42:23,253 --> 00:42:26,133
Speaker 2: just heard that it didn't fit in the whole. So

932
00:42:26,173 --> 00:42:27,933
Speaker 2: they're going to spend their whole year flatting with the

933
00:42:27,933 --> 00:42:29,333
Speaker 2: fridge just sitting in the middle of the kitchen.

934
00:42:29,333 --> 00:42:31,173
Speaker 3: Oh, that would do my head in all right. Oh

935
00:42:31,213 --> 00:42:32,853
Speaker 3: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty the phones have

936
00:42:32,933 --> 00:42:35,813
Speaker 3: led up nineteen ninety two? Is that text number love

937
00:42:35,853 --> 00:42:38,053
Speaker 3: to hear from you? If you bought a relocatable home.

938
00:42:38,173 --> 00:42:40,533
Speaker 3: What was the experience, Like, it's ten past two?

939
00:42:40,733 --> 00:42:43,533
Speaker 2: Cut them in half your muppets, that would help, Yeah, yeah,

940
00:42:43,573 --> 00:42:44,733
Speaker 2: but then you've got to put it back together.

941
00:42:47,253 --> 00:42:52,093
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons call, Oh,

942
00:42:52,173 --> 00:42:54,373
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk.

943
00:42:54,253 --> 00:42:54,652
Speaker 9: Said be.

944
00:42:56,413 --> 00:42:57,933
Speaker 3: Afternoon thirteen past two.

945
00:42:58,213 --> 00:43:00,533
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, there was a story last week in the

946
00:43:00,573 --> 00:43:03,533
Speaker 2: Herald about a mansion up north that is for sale.

947
00:43:03,533 --> 00:43:05,813
Speaker 2: It was relocated from miles away. They had to cut

948
00:43:05,853 --> 00:43:08,613
Speaker 2: into six pieces, but it's been restored to bed than

949
00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:13,692
Speaker 2: it was better than its absolute best chairs for that Greg. Yeah,

950
00:43:14,213 --> 00:43:16,213
Speaker 2: So it's it better to get one that's just a

951
00:43:16,253 --> 00:43:20,253
Speaker 2: house or as it is, or a purpose built to

952
00:43:20,293 --> 00:43:22,692
Speaker 2: be moved. I wonder because because you would you build

953
00:43:22,693 --> 00:43:25,493
Speaker 2: the house designed to be moved?

954
00:43:25,813 --> 00:43:28,213
Speaker 3: Surely? And I think the one for sale down and

955
00:43:28,213 --> 00:43:30,813
Speaker 3: done is for four hundred k. It's I mean, maybe

956
00:43:30,853 --> 00:43:32,373
Speaker 3: I've got this wrong. I don't want to.

957
00:43:32,333 --> 00:43:34,373
Speaker 2: Make it look at it too longer than wider, so

958
00:43:34,413 --> 00:43:35,652
Speaker 2: it can get on the roads better.

959
00:43:35,853 --> 00:43:38,373
Speaker 3: Six pieces is a lot of Admond cut it into

960
00:43:38,413 --> 00:43:39,093
Speaker 3: sex and then put it.

961
00:43:39,773 --> 00:43:42,732
Speaker 2: You've got to mark them ABCD. You know you don't

962
00:43:42,733 --> 00:43:44,013
Speaker 2: want to put them back the wrong way.

963
00:43:44,093 --> 00:43:47,613
Speaker 3: I Kiah, Yeah, oh undred eighty ten eighty is that

964
00:43:47,733 --> 00:43:48,172
Speaker 3: number to call?

965
00:43:48,813 --> 00:43:52,213
Speaker 2: Cherry, Welcome to the show. You've relecated a few houses.

966
00:43:53,533 --> 00:43:54,853
Speaker 5: Well, not me personally.

967
00:43:55,013 --> 00:43:58,133
Speaker 15: My brother's in the house moving industry, and I relate

968
00:43:58,293 --> 00:44:03,173
Speaker 15: back to the early sixties, I bought a house in Kaiko.

969
00:44:03,413 --> 00:44:06,653
Speaker 15: It was rough cast I tended and got it for

970
00:44:06,733 --> 00:44:10,693
Speaker 15: one hundred and twenty five. We sold the bricks offer

971
00:44:10,813 --> 00:44:13,253
Speaker 15: for eight hundred, so I was kind of on a

972
00:44:13,333 --> 00:44:16,853
Speaker 15: winner right from the start. It had to be cut

973
00:44:16,973 --> 00:44:20,533
Speaker 15: in two, but unfortunately it took us about six months

974
00:44:20,613 --> 00:44:22,973
Speaker 15: to get the permits and get it on site, so

975
00:44:23,133 --> 00:44:29,013
Speaker 15: it did suffer some deteriation during that time. But of

976
00:44:29,093 --> 00:44:32,813
Speaker 15: course the woods, that's the attraction in my opinions to

977
00:44:32,973 --> 00:44:36,773
Speaker 15: these three locatable houses. We get native timber and it

978
00:44:37,013 --> 00:44:41,773
Speaker 15: just comes up beautifully. My family, my mother and her siblings,

979
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:45,133
Speaker 15: they bought a house in tong Array, jacked it up,

980
00:44:45,453 --> 00:44:49,053
Speaker 15: built the whole floor underneath. It lowered the house down

981
00:44:49,173 --> 00:44:51,493
Speaker 15: on top of the floor, and so they had a

982
00:44:51,573 --> 00:44:57,333
Speaker 15: two storage, six bedrooms house. My brother shift of the

983
00:44:57,453 --> 00:45:01,493
Speaker 15: house book was a you know, one of the old

984
00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:04,573
Speaker 15: bay old villas.

985
00:45:04,533 --> 00:45:05,333
Speaker 5: Was too bays.

986
00:45:06,213 --> 00:45:08,533
Speaker 15: He cut it in half and he left it I'm

987
00:45:08,573 --> 00:45:13,013
Speaker 15: seeing seats a path and had a whole lounge and

988
00:45:13,213 --> 00:45:19,333
Speaker 15: living rooms built between the two and that came up beautifully.

989
00:45:19,533 --> 00:45:20,253
Speaker 3: It's a smart I.

990
00:45:21,733 --> 00:45:26,813
Speaker 15: I bought a full haul from Otara and shifted it

991
00:45:27,253 --> 00:45:31,933
Speaker 15: up north and had it converted into a childcare center,

992
00:45:32,413 --> 00:45:35,653
Speaker 15: and once again there were beautiful massi flaws on it,

993
00:45:36,253 --> 00:45:40,172
Speaker 15: which you don't get in child cares these days. So yes,

994
00:45:40,533 --> 00:45:45,773
Speaker 15: there's seen some you know, some things that you'd rather forget.

995
00:45:46,373 --> 00:45:51,772
Speaker 15: But he's now retiring and leaving it to his son.

996
00:45:52,093 --> 00:45:54,893
Speaker 15: So for people who've got the time and the energy

997
00:45:55,413 --> 00:45:59,253
Speaker 15: and they can visualize something, that's the important thing.

998
00:45:59,853 --> 00:46:00,413
Speaker 5: You've got to be.

999
00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:04,493
Speaker 15: Able to visualize what the end products looking like. I

1000
00:46:04,653 --> 00:46:08,093
Speaker 15: can recommend it. I don't think you pick up any

1001
00:46:08,493 --> 00:46:11,213
Speaker 15: one hundred and twenty five dollar houses.

1002
00:46:12,693 --> 00:46:14,053
Speaker 5: Now as I did.

1003
00:46:15,493 --> 00:46:18,613
Speaker 15: Still, when you look at the price of houses that

1004
00:46:18,773 --> 00:46:22,893
Speaker 15: are available for moving, you know you can get a

1005
00:46:23,013 --> 00:46:26,173
Speaker 15: decent one for less than one hundred thousand, which is

1006
00:46:26,853 --> 00:46:29,053
Speaker 15: competitors on today's market.

1007
00:46:29,573 --> 00:46:32,333
Speaker 2: So when were you living in kai Koe Cherry.

1008
00:46:32,613 --> 00:46:36,053
Speaker 15: No, I wasn't living in k I bought the house from.

1009
00:46:36,053 --> 00:46:39,573
Speaker 2: Kaik right because because my dad's from Kai Kuy, so

1010
00:46:40,133 --> 00:46:42,253
Speaker 2: you know he had been around there in the sixties.

1011
00:46:42,893 --> 00:46:43,893
Speaker 2: I don't know if you bought it out.

1012
00:46:45,213 --> 00:46:49,613
Speaker 15: I bought the old post not the old the postmaster's

1013
00:46:50,093 --> 00:46:55,053
Speaker 15: old house because I'd put a great, big communications tower

1014
00:46:55,453 --> 00:46:56,293
Speaker 15: on that site.

1015
00:46:56,693 --> 00:47:00,813
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, well, my granddad was the minister at

1016
00:47:00,853 --> 00:47:04,813
Speaker 2: Saint Stephen's in kai ky So you know that's interesting

1017
00:47:04,893 --> 00:47:05,053
Speaker 2: to me.

1018
00:47:05,973 --> 00:47:08,973
Speaker 3: Good people from kai Koe Cherry think you very much,

1019
00:47:09,133 --> 00:47:14,133
Speaker 3: very interesting, Bruce. You did it heaps before some changes

1020
00:47:14,173 --> 00:47:15,293
Speaker 3: were made to resource management.

1021
00:47:16,293 --> 00:47:18,613
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's right. I just firstly like to just

1022
00:47:18,653 --> 00:47:24,853
Speaker 5: acknowledge the last caller and visualization is just so critical

1023
00:47:24,933 --> 00:47:28,573
Speaker 5: when you're dealing with property. And I always think it's

1024
00:47:28,573 --> 00:47:31,613
Speaker 5: sort of almost an unfair advantage because someone that knows

1025
00:47:31,733 --> 00:47:35,133
Speaker 5: property can look at a piece of land and then

1026
00:47:35,213 --> 00:47:37,093
Speaker 5: look at the house and say, yeah, that'll work, and

1027
00:47:37,173 --> 00:47:40,453
Speaker 5: they visualize the finished product. A lot of people can't

1028
00:47:40,533 --> 00:47:44,013
Speaker 5: do that. They need everything wrapped and tied, all the

1029
00:47:44,093 --> 00:47:46,373
Speaker 5: eyes and teeth. Anyhow, that's another story.

1030
00:47:46,413 --> 00:47:48,453
Speaker 13: But I was doing.

1031
00:47:49,853 --> 00:47:55,573
Speaker 5: The relocatables before the Resource Management Act came in, and

1032
00:47:56,573 --> 00:48:01,933
Speaker 5: it was in Gisbon. What was happening is at the time,

1033
00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:05,013
Speaker 5: I think it was about the eighties, round about the

1034
00:48:05,053 --> 00:48:07,813
Speaker 5: early eighties. At that time, a lot of Gisbon was

1035
00:48:07,853 --> 00:48:13,213
Speaker 5: going in the forestry, and the forestry was the farms

1036
00:48:13,253 --> 00:48:16,093
Speaker 5: were going into forestry, and then there was all the

1037
00:48:17,253 --> 00:48:18,813
Speaker 5: people may remember at the time, there was a lot

1038
00:48:18,853 --> 00:48:24,253
Speaker 5: of forestry schemes, long term investment schemes promoted by certain individuals,

1039
00:48:24,333 --> 00:48:27,973
Speaker 5: and a lot of people climbed into forestry investments.

1040
00:48:28,293 --> 00:48:29,172
Speaker 3: And my parents did them.

1041
00:48:30,053 --> 00:48:33,813
Speaker 5: Yeah, But what was happening is when they turned into forestry,

1042
00:48:34,373 --> 00:48:37,732
Speaker 5: the farms had these houses on them which were either

1043
00:48:37,893 --> 00:48:42,253
Speaker 5: sheer milkers houses or houses that were farmhouses, and they

1044
00:48:42,293 --> 00:48:47,172
Speaker 5: were really really good houses. And at the same time,

1045
00:48:47,453 --> 00:48:51,533
Speaker 5: the Pointed Cockery, which was the a wing of the

1046
00:48:51,853 --> 00:48:54,133
Speaker 5: Department of Murray Affairs, I think as they were known,

1047
00:48:54,253 --> 00:48:58,653
Speaker 5: they were unloading all these sections. So I was able

1048
00:48:58,733 --> 00:49:04,693
Speaker 5: to buy from the point of Cockery a section for

1049
00:49:04,853 --> 00:49:10,413
Speaker 5: five thousand dollars. And I was able to buy these

1050
00:49:10,533 --> 00:49:16,613
Speaker 5: relocatable houses from anything for two two five. You didn't

1051
00:49:16,613 --> 00:49:18,453
Speaker 5: pay any more than five for them.

1052
00:49:19,413 --> 00:49:21,853
Speaker 7: And yeah, and also.

1053
00:49:23,333 --> 00:49:24,253
Speaker 2: Three bedrooms or what.

1054
00:49:25,093 --> 00:49:28,373
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, full houses, you know, full solid state houses,

1055
00:49:28,413 --> 00:49:30,973
Speaker 5: you know the old state houses, the high spec state

1056
00:49:31,053 --> 00:49:34,772
Speaker 5: houses with removed floors and yeah, and you know, those

1057
00:49:34,893 --> 00:49:37,773
Speaker 5: were the houses you could pick up at that at

1058
00:49:37,813 --> 00:49:42,732
Speaker 5: that time. Now, once you got them, once you had

1059
00:49:42,773 --> 00:49:45,813
Speaker 5: your section and you had the house. And also at

1060
00:49:45,853 --> 00:49:48,253
Speaker 5: the same time there was there was a big builder

1061
00:49:48,333 --> 00:49:54,373
Speaker 5: in town that was removing these villas. Hasn't had a

1062
00:49:54,453 --> 00:49:57,333
Speaker 5: lot of big old villas, you know, four or five

1063
00:49:57,493 --> 00:50:02,093
Speaker 5: high bedroom sarking high ceilings, and he wanted them off

1064
00:50:02,213 --> 00:50:05,732
Speaker 5: these quarter acre blocks which he could turn into four

1065
00:50:05,893 --> 00:50:08,973
Speaker 5: really nice retirement units. They had a nice bay window,

1066
00:50:09,053 --> 00:50:11,573
Speaker 5: and the older people loved them because they'd look out

1067
00:50:11,653 --> 00:50:15,093
Speaker 5: and see what was going on, and people were people

1068
00:50:15,173 --> 00:50:19,293
Speaker 5: were buying these for virtually nothing because he wanted them

1069
00:50:19,733 --> 00:50:20,413
Speaker 5: off site.

1070
00:50:20,773 --> 00:50:21,973
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so you're doing a favor.

1071
00:50:22,173 --> 00:50:24,453
Speaker 5: You had if you had somewhere to put them, and

1072
00:50:24,493 --> 00:50:26,333
Speaker 5: there was people that had sort of you could buy

1073
00:50:26,333 --> 00:50:29,533
Speaker 5: a block of land, you could actually move them, and

1074
00:50:29,653 --> 00:50:33,173
Speaker 5: you had to split them into three or four. But

1075
00:50:33,453 --> 00:50:36,773
Speaker 5: here's the nub. Here's the rub. You pay five for

1076
00:50:36,893 --> 00:50:41,652
Speaker 5: the section, you pay five for the house, You pay

1077
00:50:41,733 --> 00:50:45,013
Speaker 5: about nine for the move, right.

1078
00:50:45,333 --> 00:50:46,973
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's sounding pretty good.

1079
00:50:47,093 --> 00:50:48,733
Speaker 3: Still, Yeah, the.

1080
00:50:48,893 --> 00:50:53,013
Speaker 5: Move is where the great cost is. In those days, well,

1081
00:50:53,053 --> 00:50:56,853
Speaker 5: the move was almost twice the move was the price

1082
00:50:57,613 --> 00:51:00,692
Speaker 5: of the land and the section back in those days.

1083
00:51:00,813 --> 00:51:04,613
Speaker 2: But Bruce, is it still about the same.

1084
00:51:05,533 --> 00:51:06,013
Speaker 14: I don't know.

1085
00:51:06,213 --> 00:51:08,333
Speaker 5: I haven't done that, But when you're talking about four

1086
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:12,613
Speaker 5: four one hundred for a relocatable I couldn't imagine you'd

1087
00:51:12,653 --> 00:51:15,212
Speaker 5: be looking in any more in this than the dollar

1088
00:51:15,653 --> 00:51:18,173
Speaker 5: now for one hundred k. And they say they have

1089
00:51:18,333 --> 00:51:21,613
Speaker 5: it on piles. You got to tie it down. And

1090
00:51:21,733 --> 00:51:24,173
Speaker 5: in one case in Gisbon, I just moved the house

1091
00:51:24,293 --> 00:51:28,413
Speaker 5: on that night. I hadn't tied it on, and there

1092
00:51:28,493 --> 00:51:32,013
Speaker 5: was an earthquake, and unfortunately it would have been very

1093
00:51:32,053 --> 00:51:35,013
Speaker 5: interesting to see that house bounce off its piles.

1094
00:51:39,213 --> 00:51:40,853
Speaker 2: That is some bad luck right there, Bruce.

1095
00:51:43,853 --> 00:51:44,653
Speaker 14: I don'ted the bullet.

1096
00:51:44,693 --> 00:51:47,093
Speaker 5: It didn't get me though, but that was it had

1097
00:51:47,253 --> 00:51:50,453
Speaker 5: moved about probably twenty centimeters off its piles.

1098
00:51:51,453 --> 00:51:54,533
Speaker 3: Are's most of the money with the movie put piecing

1099
00:51:54,573 --> 00:51:56,253
Speaker 3: it together at the other side, because then you need

1100
00:51:56,293 --> 00:51:58,213
Speaker 3: a carpenter, I imagine, to come in and sign it

1101
00:51:58,253 --> 00:52:00,413
Speaker 3: all off and put it together and do the plumbing.

1102
00:52:01,773 --> 00:52:03,893
Speaker 7: Well, not in the day, not not in that day.

1103
00:52:03,933 --> 00:52:07,293
Speaker 5: I remember I was doing it before the resource management

1104
00:52:07,373 --> 00:52:10,813
Speaker 5: that came in. And then the resource management came in.

1105
00:52:10,933 --> 00:52:14,333
Speaker 5: I think it was Stan Rogers, Bill Birch, Ruth Richardson

1106
00:52:14,693 --> 00:52:20,693
Speaker 5: about that era at the Employment Contracts Act, etc. And

1107
00:52:21,253 --> 00:52:24,493
Speaker 5: I was doing one and I had good relationships with

1108
00:52:24,653 --> 00:52:28,933
Speaker 5: the mayor, as you need to, and he gave me

1109
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:31,693
Speaker 5: a call and said, you've got a problem. Okay, what

1110
00:52:31,893 --> 00:52:36,413
Speaker 5: is it? And he said, your neighbors have objected. I said, what,

1111
00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:39,773
Speaker 5: it's nothing to do with them, and he said, oh,

1112
00:52:39,853 --> 00:52:42,172
Speaker 5: yes it is. He said, you've also got to get

1113
00:52:42,253 --> 00:52:45,573
Speaker 5: permission from all your neighbors, and you've also got to

1114
00:52:45,573 --> 00:52:47,893
Speaker 5: get permission from the people across the road of the

1115
00:52:48,093 --> 00:52:52,413
Speaker 5: landholders of the vacant block. And I had to go

1116
00:52:52,573 --> 00:52:55,293
Speaker 5: and track the whereabouts of all these people. This is

1117
00:52:55,413 --> 00:52:58,533
Speaker 5: just when the resource management that came in. I couldn't

1118
00:52:58,573 --> 00:53:01,773
Speaker 5: believe it. I had to go around scout and introduce

1119
00:53:01,893 --> 00:53:05,733
Speaker 5: myself to all these people who were strangers, tell them

1120
00:53:05,773 --> 00:53:10,573
Speaker 5: what I'm doing. Didn't to sign this content, and they

1121
00:53:10,613 --> 00:53:13,733
Speaker 5: looked at me. What's it got to do with me?

1122
00:53:15,893 --> 00:53:17,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the resource menagement.

1123
00:53:18,413 --> 00:53:19,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is punish.

1124
00:53:19,853 --> 00:53:21,933
Speaker 13: Yeah, they didn't know.

1125
00:53:22,253 --> 00:53:23,773
Speaker 5: Why why are you asking me.

1126
00:53:25,613 --> 00:53:26,933
Speaker 3: Alone get off my property?

1127
00:53:29,173 --> 00:53:29,453
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1128
00:53:30,053 --> 00:53:32,613
Speaker 2: Hey, when you say to go back to you said

1129
00:53:32,653 --> 00:53:35,053
Speaker 2: something about you know, it's important to be able to visualize.

1130
00:53:35,453 --> 00:53:36,413
Speaker 2: What do you mean you have to be able to

1131
00:53:36,453 --> 00:53:38,573
Speaker 2: visualize what the new house is going to look like.

1132
00:53:38,693 --> 00:53:41,413
Speaker 2: We're the best place to put it. What precisely do

1133
00:53:41,453 --> 00:53:44,253
Speaker 2: you mean by needing to be able to visualize Bruce.

1134
00:53:44,373 --> 00:53:47,013
Speaker 5: Well, what was your first thing you do is you

1135
00:53:47,133 --> 00:53:49,893
Speaker 5: need your section? Okay, and in those days you could

1136
00:53:49,933 --> 00:53:52,413
Speaker 5: just pick up land was cheap, There was heaps of it.

1137
00:53:54,373 --> 00:53:56,093
Speaker 5: You could get away with your own drain and you

1138
00:53:56,093 --> 00:53:58,173
Speaker 5: could put your own sumps and you had to connect

1139
00:53:58,253 --> 00:54:01,253
Speaker 5: the sewage. Water was no trouble.

1140
00:54:01,293 --> 00:54:05,093
Speaker 16: There was none of these massive futility connections fees you

1141
00:54:05,173 --> 00:54:07,813
Speaker 16: have these days. Is I think it was one hundred

1142
00:54:07,813 --> 00:54:10,533
Speaker 16: and fifty water and maybe four hundred for power and

1143
00:54:11,253 --> 00:54:12,973
Speaker 16: that sort of thing, and a couple of hundred for

1144
00:54:13,053 --> 00:54:13,853
Speaker 16: your box whatever.

1145
00:54:17,053 --> 00:54:18,853
Speaker 5: What reponse from what we're saying before.

1146
00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:21,533
Speaker 2: Was that I was just saying, you said that it's

1147
00:54:21,533 --> 00:54:24,813
Speaker 2: so important to be able to visualize, ye, the most

1148
00:54:24,813 --> 00:54:27,293
Speaker 2: important part of it. So just what particularly do you

1149
00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:29,652
Speaker 2: need to visualize how it's going to love or where

1150
00:54:29,653 --> 00:54:30,933
Speaker 2: it should be put that kind of thing.

1151
00:54:31,613 --> 00:54:33,133
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, say you look at you look at a

1152
00:54:33,173 --> 00:54:35,853
Speaker 5: piece of land. The first thing in New Zealand is

1153
00:54:35,973 --> 00:54:39,172
Speaker 5: you've got to have a north facing aspect and you've

1154
00:54:39,213 --> 00:54:42,732
Speaker 5: got to have that winter done. That's critical. Once you've

1155
00:54:42,733 --> 00:54:46,212
Speaker 5: got your section that's got that north aspect, you then

1156
00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:49,013
Speaker 5: go and look for houses that are for sale and

1157
00:54:49,093 --> 00:54:52,373
Speaker 5: there's lots of them. And then you look at the

1158
00:54:52,413 --> 00:54:53,933
Speaker 5: house and you say, go, go, how would that work

1159
00:54:54,013 --> 00:54:56,813
Speaker 5: on the block? It's north basing. Here are the windows,

1160
00:54:56,853 --> 00:55:00,333
Speaker 5: Here are the bedrooms, here around, here's the entrance way.

1161
00:55:00,853 --> 00:55:03,853
Speaker 5: You move it all around. You do a site plan.

1162
00:55:04,813 --> 00:55:06,533
Speaker 5: Back in the day, you could do your own plan

1163
00:55:06,653 --> 00:55:09,213
Speaker 5: as long as you had the boundaries that a clothes

1164
00:55:09,333 --> 00:55:12,172
Speaker 5: line and outdoor, a living space, and you just take

1165
00:55:12,213 --> 00:55:14,213
Speaker 5: that into the count sol the building can stent and

1166
00:55:14,333 --> 00:55:18,773
Speaker 5: look at it. Yeah, these are the bilas yees, height boundaries,

1167
00:55:19,533 --> 00:55:23,493
Speaker 5: sunlight turning area. Yeah, or got signed off a where

1168
00:55:23,573 --> 00:55:26,613
Speaker 5: you go you produce a house, you know, very quickly. Yeah,

1169
00:55:26,973 --> 00:55:31,133
Speaker 5: But nowadays you just can't do that. Some people say

1170
00:55:31,173 --> 00:55:34,732
Speaker 5: it was the wild West. But as that last caller stead,

1171
00:55:34,733 --> 00:55:38,333
Speaker 5: you've got to be able to you've got to be

1172
00:55:38,373 --> 00:55:39,773
Speaker 5: able to see what you can do. And you can

1173
00:55:39,853 --> 00:55:42,973
Speaker 5: pretty much you could do anything. I suppose you still can.

1174
00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:45,533
Speaker 5: But you've got to be prepare to pay for it.

1175
00:55:45,813 --> 00:55:46,013
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1176
00:55:46,013 --> 00:55:48,652
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, isn't it. Yeah, You've got to pay.

1177
00:55:48,773 --> 00:55:50,693
Speaker 2: I mean, now you get the you'd get it. You

1178
00:55:51,173 --> 00:55:53,293
Speaker 2: throw up a three D model of it and you'd

1179
00:55:53,333 --> 00:55:55,652
Speaker 2: have a look and you could spin around. You cad

1180
00:55:55,733 --> 00:55:56,293
Speaker 2: it up, wouldn't you.

1181
00:55:56,493 --> 00:55:57,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, there's tools for that.

1182
00:55:59,053 --> 00:56:00,613
Speaker 2: The stix is tilling you up. But you can't put

1183
00:56:00,653 --> 00:56:02,373
Speaker 2: a house on the back of your section as the

1184
00:56:02,493 --> 00:56:03,773
Speaker 2: house in the front is in the way.

1185
00:56:03,973 --> 00:56:05,573
Speaker 3: What are you talking about. You've got a fella there

1186
00:56:05,573 --> 00:56:07,693
Speaker 3: who knows how to move houses. Just shift the original

1187
00:56:07,813 --> 00:56:10,173
Speaker 3: under the side, the other one on the back and

1188
00:56:10,213 --> 00:56:13,292
Speaker 3: you're away laughing leap frog. Yeah, exactly right. I've taken

1189
00:56:13,333 --> 00:56:13,813
Speaker 3: your calls.

1190
00:56:17,613 --> 00:56:22,333
Speaker 1: Madd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight on Youth

1191
00:56:22,413 --> 00:56:23,253
Speaker 1: Talk zby.

1192
00:56:23,133 --> 00:56:25,933
Speaker 3: Twenty nine past two. We're talking about relocatable homes. If

1193
00:56:25,933 --> 00:56:27,973
Speaker 3: you have ever bought a relocatable home, love to hear

1194
00:56:28,013 --> 00:56:31,733
Speaker 3: your experiences. How hard was it? How much did it cost? John?

1195
00:56:31,933 --> 00:56:34,773
Speaker 3: You used to build them in cross chich Oh I

1196
00:56:34,973 --> 00:56:35,293
Speaker 3: still do.

1197
00:56:35,533 --> 00:56:37,573
Speaker 17: I'm still I'm doing it right now as we speak.

1198
00:56:37,853 --> 00:56:40,373
Speaker 2: Oh, you're the absolute perfect person to talk to. John.

1199
00:56:41,533 --> 00:56:43,652
Speaker 17: Oh, I've got to go so.

1200
00:56:43,893 --> 00:56:46,133
Speaker 3: So talk to us. So obviously you run a company

1201
00:56:46,253 --> 00:56:48,893
Speaker 3: with the relocatable homes we're about to You're based in cross.

1202
00:56:48,693 --> 00:56:51,732
Speaker 17: Chich I'm based in Hornby. I've got a little yard

1203
00:56:51,813 --> 00:56:52,533
Speaker 17: down in Hornby.

1204
00:56:53,093 --> 00:56:55,773
Speaker 3: Is it just off the main highway because if you're

1205
00:56:55,813 --> 00:56:59,413
Speaker 3: driving into christ them, Oh yes, I've seen it. I've

1206
00:56:59,413 --> 00:57:00,413
Speaker 3: seen your homes there.

1207
00:57:02,573 --> 00:57:06,253
Speaker 2: Them. Is that the capital of you know, Canterbury, the

1208
00:57:06,333 --> 00:57:08,853
Speaker 2: capital of home shifting in New Zealand, like the best

1209
00:57:08,893 --> 00:57:10,893
Speaker 2: place to do it with all the flat land and such.

1210
00:57:11,853 --> 00:57:14,253
Speaker 17: It's pretty good here, Yeah, yeah it is.

1211
00:57:15,333 --> 00:57:17,213
Speaker 3: And so what's the market looking like for you at

1212
00:57:17,213 --> 00:57:19,133
Speaker 3: the moment? John? Do you get a lot of inquiries

1213
00:57:19,133 --> 00:57:21,773
Speaker 3: at the moment with the traditional housing market being you

1214
00:57:21,853 --> 00:57:24,133
Speaker 3: know up there in recent years, are you getting a

1215
00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:25,773
Speaker 3: lot more people looking at relocatable homes.

1216
00:57:26,853 --> 00:57:30,573
Speaker 17: We've had a lot of people in previous years. Last

1217
00:57:30,613 --> 00:57:33,333
Speaker 17: year was a wee bit quiet, I think when the

1218
00:57:33,413 --> 00:57:36,773
Speaker 17: government announced that you could do a granny flat, people

1219
00:57:36,853 --> 00:57:38,693
Speaker 17: were holding off a little bit, waiting to see what

1220
00:57:39,613 --> 00:57:43,773
Speaker 17: they could actually do without having the consent. But I'm

1221
00:57:43,813 --> 00:57:46,413
Speaker 17: not sure they're going to let go of the money

1222
00:57:46,453 --> 00:57:49,413
Speaker 17: that they made out of it, So we'll see what happens.

1223
00:57:50,613 --> 00:57:52,853
Speaker 2: So is there a bit of that stuff as well,

1224
00:57:53,013 --> 00:57:56,133
Speaker 2: not just the full house, but the extra the extra

1225
00:57:56,213 --> 00:57:58,733
Speaker 2: dwelling on an house that's already there. Do you move

1226
00:57:58,733 --> 00:57:59,813
Speaker 2: a few of those as well? John?

1227
00:58:01,413 --> 00:58:04,813
Speaker 17: We don't move the homes that are already existing, we

1228
00:58:05,173 --> 00:58:08,853
Speaker 17: build new and place them on the back of are yeah,

1229
00:58:09,493 --> 00:58:13,533
Speaker 17: existing properties. Using anything from one hundred to a you know,

1230
00:58:13,693 --> 00:58:16,213
Speaker 17: two hundred and fifty ton crane, we can crane them

1231
00:58:16,253 --> 00:58:17,133
Speaker 17: straight over the top.

1232
00:58:17,573 --> 00:58:19,613
Speaker 2: So what is the difference between a house? What do

1233
00:58:19,693 --> 00:58:22,213
Speaker 2: you do to a house that's purpose built to be moved.

1234
00:58:24,613 --> 00:58:26,893
Speaker 17: It's got to be pretty self sufficient and it's got

1235
00:58:26,973 --> 00:58:28,733
Speaker 17: to hold its own when you when you pick it up.

1236
00:58:29,133 --> 00:58:31,693
Speaker 17: It's got to be engineered to be able to withstand

1237
00:58:31,893 --> 00:58:32,773
Speaker 17: that sort of pressure.

1238
00:58:33,333 --> 00:58:36,173
Speaker 2: Do you make them longer or say, different shapes so

1239
00:58:36,253 --> 00:58:38,213
Speaker 2: they can head down the motorway with that too many problems?

1240
00:58:39,053 --> 00:58:41,293
Speaker 17: Yeah, we train keep them to a certain size so

1241
00:58:41,413 --> 00:58:44,213
Speaker 17: that the pilots that we use are either one or

1242
00:58:44,293 --> 00:58:48,133
Speaker 17: two pilots. So we've built them sort of eighteen meters

1243
00:58:48,213 --> 00:58:52,573
Speaker 17: long by four point two meters wide, so you get

1244
00:58:53,093 --> 00:58:54,173
Speaker 17: a pretty sizable home.

1245
00:58:54,253 --> 00:58:56,013
Speaker 3: Still, what do you mean by pilot.

1246
00:58:57,493 --> 00:59:00,773
Speaker 17: A pilot vehicle too? You know it goes in front

1247
00:59:00,813 --> 00:59:01,013
Speaker 17: of the.

1248
00:59:03,533 --> 00:59:04,973
Speaker 3: The yeah, yeah, got yah, yeah, yeah.

1249
00:59:05,733 --> 00:59:07,453
Speaker 2: And you know the connecting up all the all the

1250
00:59:07,493 --> 00:59:11,693
Speaker 2: connections and stuf. Are they made differently so they can

1251
00:59:11,773 --> 00:59:13,733
Speaker 2: be easily just you know, plug and played.

1252
00:59:14,653 --> 00:59:14,893
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1253
00:59:15,333 --> 00:59:18,173
Speaker 17: Absolutely, we can put a sort of like a caravan

1254
00:59:18,293 --> 00:59:21,373
Speaker 17: plug underneath so that you can you know, you're electrician

1255
00:59:21,573 --> 00:59:24,853
Speaker 17: or our electrician, we can organize that we'll just come

1256
00:59:24,893 --> 00:59:28,453
Speaker 17: along and plug it in and basically the same thing

1257
00:59:28,533 --> 00:59:30,293
Speaker 17: for your water and sewer.

1258
00:59:30,813 --> 00:59:31,813
Speaker 2: So how much better is that?

1259
00:59:32,093 --> 00:59:32,253
Speaker 9: You know?

1260
00:59:32,293 --> 00:59:35,933
Speaker 2: How much less hassle overall? Is one purpose belt to

1261
00:59:35,973 --> 00:59:39,493
Speaker 2: be moved as opposed to you know, some old house

1262
00:59:39,573 --> 00:59:42,453
Speaker 2: that's just been unwanted and grabbed and shoved on the

1263
00:59:42,493 --> 00:59:42,973
Speaker 2: back with drug.

1264
00:59:44,053 --> 00:59:47,653
Speaker 17: Well, a lot of work has to go into refurbishing

1265
00:59:47,733 --> 00:59:51,733
Speaker 17: that property that and some of your other guys have

1266
00:59:51,853 --> 00:59:55,173
Speaker 17: been on and said, you know, cutting them up and whatnot.

1267
00:59:55,413 --> 00:59:58,333
Speaker 17: There's a lot of work involved in doing that. Whereas

1268
00:59:58,373 --> 01:00:01,733
Speaker 17: I can from start to finish, I can have one

1269
01:00:01,773 --> 01:00:04,173
Speaker 17: of these on your back section within sort of six

1270
01:00:04,253 --> 01:00:04,853
Speaker 17: to eight weeks.

1271
01:00:05,293 --> 01:00:08,293
Speaker 2: Does anyone make them? In part so you kind of

1272
01:00:08,773 --> 01:00:10,493
Speaker 2: you want to have a house bigger than the ones

1273
01:00:10,533 --> 01:00:12,813
Speaker 2: that are convenient to be taken down the road. Is

1274
01:00:12,853 --> 01:00:14,973
Speaker 2: it possible to make I don't know that the a

1275
01:00:15,093 --> 01:00:16,053
Speaker 2: jigsaw house.

1276
01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:19,893
Speaker 17: Which definitely I'm actually doing that right now. A lady

1277
01:00:19,973 --> 01:00:22,493
Speaker 17: that wanted an l shape configuration on the back of

1278
01:00:22,533 --> 01:00:24,773
Speaker 17: a section and it's justin Hornby actually just got the

1279
01:00:24,853 --> 01:00:29,053
Speaker 17: road from us, And I'm building them so that they're

1280
01:00:29,173 --> 01:00:31,973
Speaker 17: both able to be put onto the back of a

1281
01:00:32,053 --> 01:00:36,413
Speaker 17: truck separately, and that both sections of water tight, and

1282
01:00:36,453 --> 01:00:38,373
Speaker 17: then when they get on site, will put a little

1283
01:00:38,413 --> 01:00:40,253
Speaker 17: doorway through for the corry door and whatnot.

1284
01:00:40,293 --> 01:00:45,533
Speaker 2: And yeah, so they lock together like lego.

1285
01:00:47,053 --> 01:00:47,413
Speaker 9: Kind of.

1286
01:00:47,893 --> 01:00:51,413
Speaker 17: Yeah, the panel that I use is very very similar

1287
01:00:51,453 --> 01:00:53,773
Speaker 17: to that. It does have a little locking mechanism, not

1288
01:00:53,853 --> 01:00:57,493
Speaker 17: the same, And yeah, they go together quite quite easily.

1289
01:00:57,653 --> 01:00:57,893
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1290
01:00:58,013 --> 01:00:58,253
Speaker 2: Cool.

1291
01:00:58,453 --> 01:01:01,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned in christ it's John, there would have

1292
01:01:01,173 --> 01:01:03,613
Speaker 3: been and I know you don't do this, but there

1293
01:01:03,613 --> 01:01:05,693
Speaker 3: would have been a lot of homes where the land

1294
01:01:05,813 --> 01:01:08,133
Speaker 3: was buggered where they thought there was still value on

1295
01:01:08,133 --> 01:01:10,133
Speaker 3: the Was there a bit of a gloff in the

1296
01:01:10,173 --> 01:01:11,013
Speaker 3: market at some stage?

1297
01:01:12,013 --> 01:01:14,333
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think that they're looking at a lot of

1298
01:01:14,973 --> 01:01:20,253
Speaker 17: that red sort of area land out to the east

1299
01:01:20,373 --> 01:01:25,933
Speaker 17: and to Brighton and whatnot, and then maybe they're going

1300
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Speaker 17: to allow this kind of home to be put on

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Speaker 17: those sections.

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Speaker 3: Now that'd be great.

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01:01:32,573 --> 01:01:34,973
Speaker 17: Going on. Oh, there is a lot of beautiful sort

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Speaker 17: of flat out there to put this sort of thing on.

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Speaker 2: So John, the advantages you have and that you have

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01:01:42,693 --> 01:01:45,653
Speaker 2: everything there to build the house, so that there is

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01:01:45,733 --> 01:01:49,653
Speaker 2: such an advantage over you know, reinventing the wheel to

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01:01:49,693 --> 01:01:51,533
Speaker 2: go around to someone's house and just build it where

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, absolutely, it's so much easier. I have had to

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01:01:56,933 --> 01:02:00,893
Speaker 17: build a couple of my property, my my little houses

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01:02:01,533 --> 01:02:05,533
Speaker 17: on people's property because the access is just too difficult

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Speaker 17: and it's an absolute pain. And yeah, you get to

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01:02:10,773 --> 01:02:13,813
Speaker 17: site you're in Rolliston and I'll shit, I forgot that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hey, thanks so much, ringing.

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01:02:17,413 --> 01:02:18,853
Speaker 17: We've going backwards and forwards.

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01:02:19,013 --> 01:02:21,413
Speaker 2: We've got to go to the news headlines.

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Speaker 17: But what's your company called, John, It's Living Little Limited.

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Speaker 2: Living Little, Living Little dot codin z. I assume you can.

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Speaker 2: You've got a dot co. Yeah, I got on your John.

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01:02:31,773 --> 01:02:32,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, good man to chat too.

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Speaker 2: I find this hugely interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is fascinating cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call love to hear from you if you've purchased

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Speaker 3: a relocatable or you work in that space, if you

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01:02:43,693 --> 01:02:45,973
Speaker 3: actually move these houses real keen to ever chat with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we've got some people that are bringing up

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Speaker 2: the issue of how the banks feel about this that

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Speaker 2: will share next twenty five to two.

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Speaker 11: News talks the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no

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01:03:00,533 --> 01:03:03,693
Speaker 11: trouble with a blue bubble. Wellington City councilor is are

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01:03:03,773 --> 01:03:07,733
Speaker 11: voted in favor of pausing the controversial Golden Mile project

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01:03:08,013 --> 01:03:11,293
Speaker 11: until an official reviewer is carried out after warnings of

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Speaker 11: cost blowouts. Police say there are serious injuries after a

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01:03:15,653 --> 01:03:19,693
Speaker 11: multi vehicle crash south of Ross in Westland. Two people

1339
01:03:19,813 --> 01:03:23,453
Speaker 11: are trapped in State Highway sixers closed near Dona Hughes Road.

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Speaker 11: One person's died after a single vehicle crash this morning

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01:03:27,413 --> 01:03:30,813
Speaker 11: on Auckland's Dominion Road in Mount Eden at the Pharaoh Store.

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Speaker 11: New Zealand First Leader says Hill campaign to repeal the

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01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:39,373
Speaker 11: Regulatory Standards Act next election that his party helped vote

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01:03:39,453 --> 01:03:43,773
Speaker 11: through last week. Fire and Emergency is begging fire fighters

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01:03:43,853 --> 01:03:47,013
Speaker 11: to call off tomorrow's one hour strike at midday, claiming

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01:03:47,093 --> 01:03:51,373
Speaker 11: it risks public safety. Professional firefighters are protesting over pay,

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01:03:51,533 --> 01:03:53,693
Speaker 11: staffing and procurement issues.

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Speaker 18: In Cashmere High School. Seventeen year old at Cadet Flight

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01:03:57,613 --> 01:04:01,133
Speaker 18: Sergeant Brayden Foster has been named New Zealand Defense Force

1350
01:04:01,253 --> 01:04:04,613
Speaker 18: Cadet of the Year. The player who could emerge to

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01:04:04,693 --> 01:04:07,413
Speaker 18: claim the all blacks right wing read more at ends

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Speaker 18: aid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylian. We're talking about relocatable homes.

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01:04:13,093 --> 01:04:15,093
Speaker 3: There is one for sale down in Dunedin and it's

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01:04:15,093 --> 01:04:16,693
Speaker 3: getting a bit of buzz. It's a beautiful home for

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01:04:16,733 --> 01:04:20,013
Speaker 3: about four hundred thousand, but the problem is you've got

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01:04:20,053 --> 01:04:21,413
Speaker 3: to relocate it. So if you've done that, love to

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Speaker 3: hear from you, Hi guys.

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Speaker 2: One thing you're missing is finance banks aren't going to

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01:04:24,773 --> 01:04:27,733
Speaker 2: lend money unless you own the land outright and bought

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01:04:27,813 --> 01:04:31,613
Speaker 2: that board on that. Then when completed refinance, it's not

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01:04:31,773 --> 01:04:32,973
Speaker 2: going to happen for most.

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Speaker 3: It's good point.

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Speaker 2: This person said, we build a new home at building

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01:04:37,253 --> 01:04:40,453
Speaker 2: Yard and Kemu and then was transported to Matarangi in

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01:04:40,533 --> 01:04:43,853
Speaker 2: the Corimandel instant home. Only thing they needed to replace

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01:04:44,013 --> 01:04:44,973
Speaker 2: was the copper spouting.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a good adad from.

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Speaker 2: Mac. Here's the thing, Matt and Tyler's it's much easier

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Speaker 2: to ask for forgiveness. It's much easier to ask for

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01:04:55,893 --> 01:04:58,613
Speaker 2: forgiveness then for permission. So set up a real locatable

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01:04:58,653 --> 01:05:02,253
Speaker 2: house in a neat spot, shove it down and then

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01:05:02,333 --> 01:05:06,333
Speaker 2: get the consenting done later. And we were joking about

1374
01:05:06,453 --> 01:05:09,333
Speaker 2: leapfrogging houses. If you want one on the back and

1375
01:05:09,373 --> 01:05:11,173
Speaker 2: you've got one in the front, I crane them over

1376
01:05:11,293 --> 01:05:13,493
Speaker 2: into back sections using a huge one hundred to two

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01:05:13,573 --> 01:05:14,733
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty ton crane.

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01:05:14,933 --> 01:05:17,173
Speaker 3: Thank you. Text there you go see where there's a

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01:05:17,173 --> 01:05:18,013
Speaker 3: wilders away.

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01:05:17,773 --> 01:05:20,173
Speaker 2: Because someone was hassling tired about saying, you know, have

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Speaker 2: for a new house in the backyard.

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01:05:21,693 --> 01:05:23,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go just get a massive crane.

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01:05:23,893 --> 01:05:25,573
Speaker 2: But that person that was saying that doesn't know how

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01:05:25,813 --> 01:05:29,133
Speaker 2: wide your driveway is, whether there's another axis. Yeah exactly, Yeah,

1385
01:05:29,293 --> 01:05:31,373
Speaker 2: but it turns out you can just have it over

1386
01:05:31,453 --> 01:05:32,573
Speaker 2: the top leap frog it.

1387
01:05:33,293 --> 01:05:34,293
Speaker 3: Peter, how are you mate?

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Speaker 7: Good gentle?

1389
01:05:36,333 --> 01:05:37,653
Speaker 3: How are you very good?

1390
01:05:38,133 --> 01:05:38,253
Speaker 9: Now?

1391
01:05:38,253 --> 01:05:39,933
Speaker 3: You want to have a chat about our hotel that

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01:05:40,133 --> 01:05:40,533
Speaker 3: was moved.

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01:05:41,573 --> 01:05:45,453
Speaker 7: Yeah, you would probably know the hotel, mate, because you were.

1394
01:05:46,053 --> 01:05:47,293
Speaker 7: You've been the great town, haven't you.

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Speaker 2: I have definitely big fan White Swan, the White Swan Hotel.

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01:05:52,173 --> 01:05:53,773
Speaker 7: Would you walking there for a beer?

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Speaker 2: I might have the White Swan Hotel describe it to me?

1398
01:05:57,693 --> 01:06:00,973
Speaker 2: That is that but it's like it's got two stories

1399
01:06:01,693 --> 01:06:03,933
Speaker 2: and the balconies out the front.

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Speaker 19: Yes, of course, beautiful place. We stayed there a couple

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01:06:07,093 --> 01:06:09,733
Speaker 19: of a couple of times. Beautiful place that was trucked

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01:06:09,773 --> 01:06:16,493
Speaker 19: over from Wellington over the packers two thousand and two.

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01:06:16,733 --> 01:06:18,053
Speaker 3: It's a monster, it's huge.

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01:06:18,773 --> 01:06:22,733
Speaker 7: It was a huge one. Well, if you'd actually wandered

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01:06:22,773 --> 01:06:25,493
Speaker 7: through you would have seen some of the original phrograms

1406
01:06:25,493 --> 01:06:29,213
Speaker 7: that have been taken over there. And they actually one

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01:06:29,293 --> 01:06:32,693
Speaker 7: seation flew off the one of the trucks and the

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01:06:32,773 --> 01:06:34,613
Speaker 7: hill roads for quite some time.

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01:06:34,813 --> 01:06:38,733
Speaker 3: Unfortunate I got back on again, but that was.

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Speaker 7: Truck there, so I think I don't know, I can't

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01:06:41,693 --> 01:06:43,773
Speaker 7: remember how many bits. I think it was at least

1412
01:06:43,813 --> 01:06:47,613
Speaker 7: half a dozen, but maybe more. Yeah, that's a bigger hotel.

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Speaker 7: So so they do truck Because I caught your part

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Speaker 7: of your comment about moving houses in Wellington, Well we

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01:06:55,373 --> 01:06:57,613
Speaker 7: do actually because it actually came from Wellington.

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Speaker 13: That yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a massive projects.

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Speaker 2: There's that's quite a path. I mean, I've driven in

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01:07:03,053 --> 01:07:06,213
Speaker 2: a number of times and it's pretty it's pretty tricky

1420
01:07:06,293 --> 01:07:08,013
Speaker 2: just with the amount of curves, just if you're driving

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01:07:08,013 --> 01:07:10,853
Speaker 2: a Ford Focus exactly exactly.

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01:07:10,893 --> 01:07:12,973
Speaker 7: And we go over there quite regularly, and yet it's

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01:07:13,053 --> 01:07:16,493
Speaker 7: quite a twisty road. And another big hotel that was

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01:07:16,533 --> 01:07:20,773
Speaker 7: shifted with the Princess Gate and Rode the room was

1425
01:07:20,973 --> 01:07:24,453
Speaker 7: shifted it from I think that was shifted from up

1426
01:07:24,533 --> 01:07:27,133
Speaker 7: around Gibbon somewhere like that. But if you ever ever

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01:07:27,213 --> 01:07:29,453
Speaker 7: go into that hotel you'll see photographs. And that was

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01:07:29,493 --> 01:07:35,733
Speaker 7: carried on on bullock dragged uh you know, not trailers

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01:07:35,893 --> 01:07:40,293
Speaker 7: parts the bullock. They cut it into pieces and they

1430
01:07:40,373 --> 01:07:43,973
Speaker 7: put it on these big carts or whatever they are

1431
01:07:44,013 --> 01:07:47,053
Speaker 7: worlds things like trailers, and they pulled it was with bullocks.

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Speaker 3: Wow, did you say the Princess Gate.

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01:07:49,813 --> 01:07:50,693
Speaker 7: Sorry, the princes Gate.

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01:07:50,773 --> 01:07:53,253
Speaker 2: Ye, they're playing with bullocks. So this was done a

1435
01:07:53,333 --> 01:07:54,053
Speaker 2: long time ago.

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01:07:54,373 --> 01:07:56,733
Speaker 7: A long time ago. Yes, it was a long ago.

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Speaker 3: It's another stunning hotel, very colonial looking, beautiful.

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01:08:00,813 --> 01:08:03,053
Speaker 7: It's beautiful with the day there a couple of times too.

1439
01:08:03,133 --> 01:08:06,333
Speaker 7: And again they've got some amazing photos in there of

1440
01:08:06,453 --> 01:08:08,733
Speaker 7: it being shifted. But the one over of a tucker

1441
01:08:08,773 --> 01:08:10,333
Speaker 7: would have been would have been the hairiest one, I

1442
01:08:10,373 --> 01:08:15,093
Speaker 7: would suggest. But but yeah, I mean I was back

1443
01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:17,572
Speaker 7: in a previous life when I was working for a company,

1444
01:08:17,733 --> 01:08:19,973
Speaker 7: I had a house shifted from the back of the

1445
01:08:20,133 --> 01:08:22,692
Speaker 7: Wellington control tower which is up a very steep hill

1446
01:08:23,293 --> 01:08:28,012
Speaker 7: overlooking the airport, and that's the air traffic control tower.

1447
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Speaker 7: Now the truck had to climb up a four meter bank,

1448
01:08:31,213 --> 01:08:34,492
Speaker 7: the truck and trailer to get underneath the house and

1449
01:08:34,572 --> 01:08:35,452
Speaker 7: then bring it all down.

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01:08:36,333 --> 01:08:40,612
Speaker 2: So insurance on these on these trips, I mean, do

1451
01:08:40,612 --> 01:08:43,732
Speaker 2: you have to do individual insurance deals? Broke a deal

1452
01:08:43,893 --> 01:08:44,412
Speaker 2: just for the trip?

1453
01:08:45,372 --> 01:08:46,133
Speaker 1: No, we didn't.

1454
01:08:46,253 --> 01:08:46,612
Speaker 6: We didn't.

1455
01:08:47,013 --> 01:08:49,692
Speaker 7: We basically sold the house to the house removal company

1456
01:08:50,173 --> 01:08:52,013
Speaker 7: and it was up to them to sort out their

1457
01:08:52,053 --> 01:08:54,732
Speaker 7: insurance and do all that sort of stuff. So I

1458
01:08:54,853 --> 01:08:58,372
Speaker 7: guess if it's a relocatable like now other people be

1459
01:08:58,452 --> 01:09:00,412
Speaker 7: talking about, then yes, you'd have to cover your own

1460
01:09:00,452 --> 01:09:03,412
Speaker 7: insurance on that, or maybe the firm whose transported it

1461
01:09:03,452 --> 01:09:05,852
Speaker 7: they would probably have insurance as well, or they would

1462
01:09:05,893 --> 01:09:06,053
Speaker 7: have to.

1463
01:09:06,532 --> 01:09:08,213
Speaker 2: Hey, I've got a question. I've got a question for you.

1464
01:09:08,372 --> 01:09:10,492
Speaker 2: It's it's a bit off topic, but why is Greatown

1465
01:09:10,692 --> 01:09:14,812
Speaker 2: so awesome? How come Greaytown is just so beautiful? What's

1466
01:09:14,853 --> 01:09:16,932
Speaker 2: the history around it? Every time I go to Greaytown,

1467
01:09:16,973 --> 01:09:18,572
Speaker 2: I go down the main street and I go this

1468
01:09:18,692 --> 01:09:22,572
Speaker 2: place is just beautiful, and you know, all the shops

1469
01:09:22,732 --> 01:09:26,293
Speaker 2: just so well decked, out and what's what's that book

1470
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:29,452
Speaker 2: bookstore there, missus missus bookstore Grain.

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01:09:30,093 --> 01:09:31,772
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know the one across the roof.

1472
01:09:32,053 --> 01:09:36,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many really really missus Blackwell's Village Bookshop.

1473
01:09:36,412 --> 01:09:40,732
Speaker 2: It's just there's so many cool little shops and it's

1474
01:09:40,893 --> 01:09:42,852
Speaker 2: just almost too good to be true. Greaytown.

1475
01:09:44,572 --> 01:09:46,892
Speaker 7: It's a beautiful spot. It's a lovely spotted. It's sort

1476
01:09:46,893 --> 01:09:50,772
Speaker 7: of really coming to its own because Martinborough. When Martinborough

1477
01:09:50,853 --> 01:09:56,012
Speaker 7: took off and became the place to go, Greattown then

1478
01:09:56,293 --> 01:09:58,652
Speaker 7: was a was a place that sort of was a

1479
01:09:58,732 --> 01:10:01,932
Speaker 7: lot more affordable. But it's it just took off from

1480
01:10:01,973 --> 01:10:04,333
Speaker 7: there and you know, people from one and can move

1481
01:10:04,412 --> 01:10:08,972
Speaker 7: over there. You can go that the a bike shop

1482
01:10:09,053 --> 01:10:11,692
Speaker 7: and the main drag which are some beautiful bikes.

1483
01:10:12,333 --> 01:10:12,532
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1484
01:10:12,772 --> 01:10:16,093
Speaker 7: They they had the gin distillery there, so you go

1485
01:10:16,213 --> 01:10:18,133
Speaker 7: and do your gin tasting the bike shop.

1486
01:10:19,333 --> 01:10:19,532
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1487
01:10:19,973 --> 01:10:20,572
Speaker 3: What a place.

1488
01:10:21,093 --> 01:10:23,492
Speaker 2: Greattown is. Greattown is just so fantastic. It's just I

1489
01:10:23,532 --> 01:10:25,293
Speaker 2: mean it's a place to stop and walk up and

1490
01:10:25,333 --> 01:10:27,333
Speaker 2: down the shops and and you know places like the

1491
01:10:27,372 --> 01:10:30,053
Speaker 2: White Swan and stuff. It's just it's just a fantastic spot. Hey,

1492
01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:30,532
Speaker 2: thanks so much.

1493
01:10:30,612 --> 01:10:32,732
Speaker 3: We call Peter oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1494
01:10:32,853 --> 01:10:34,932
Speaker 3: is the number to call if you've relocated a house

1495
01:10:34,933 --> 01:10:37,412
Speaker 3: where kind to hear from you very soon. We're going

1496
01:10:37,492 --> 01:10:39,293
Speaker 3: to have a chat to Paul who moved the house

1497
01:10:39,333 --> 01:10:43,293
Speaker 3: in Hastings and Doug who is a pilot vehicle driver

1498
01:10:43,452 --> 01:10:45,093
Speaker 3: for a relocatable company.

1499
01:10:45,053 --> 01:10:46,213
Speaker 2: Front or back. We'll find out.

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01:10:46,293 --> 01:10:51,372
Speaker 1: Yeah, have a chat with the lads on eight mad

1501
01:10:51,412 --> 01:10:54,172
Speaker 1: Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks.

1502
01:10:54,173 --> 01:10:56,572
Speaker 3: It'd be it is twelve to three and we're talking

1503
01:10:56,572 --> 01:10:59,173
Speaker 3: about relocatable homes. If you've done it, can you have

1504
01:10:59,213 --> 01:10:59,612
Speaker 3: a chat with you?

1505
01:10:59,692 --> 01:11:02,372
Speaker 2: Nine two nine The Texas says, Hey, guys, I remember

1506
01:11:02,412 --> 01:11:05,452
Speaker 2: the birdcage next to the Northern Motorway being moved one

1507
01:11:05,532 --> 01:11:07,973
Speaker 2: hundred meters to allow for the Vick Park tunnels to

1508
01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:09,652
Speaker 2: be made. That was a big deal. I couldn't believe

1509
01:11:09,652 --> 01:11:10,892
Speaker 2: and they were going to do that. The boot cage

1510
01:11:10,973 --> 01:11:13,892
Speaker 2: is fantastic place and old pub, isn't it. Thank goodness

1511
01:11:13,973 --> 01:11:16,692
Speaker 2: they did the vic Park tunnels. That's revolutionized getting across

1512
01:11:16,732 --> 01:11:19,812
Speaker 2: to the shore and back. But yeah, that that was incredible,

1513
01:11:19,853 --> 01:11:22,973
Speaker 2: the moving that huge place. And on a personal note,

1514
01:11:23,013 --> 01:11:24,732
Speaker 2: I had a drink with Jeff from the Wiggles at

1515
01:11:24,772 --> 01:11:27,213
Speaker 2: the boot cage one good times. Yeah, that's the story

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01:11:27,253 --> 01:11:31,692
Speaker 2: for that person to drink with. Welcome to the show.

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01:11:32,452 --> 01:11:32,852
Speaker 2: How are you?

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01:11:34,612 --> 01:11:34,973
Speaker 20: Thank you?

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01:11:35,133 --> 01:11:39,772
Speaker 3: You moved a house in Hastings, No two house Hastings, two.

1520
01:11:39,652 --> 01:11:44,213
Speaker 2: Hastings we're from for terror rou Oh yeah how far

1521
01:11:44,452 --> 01:11:44,572
Speaker 2: is that?

1522
01:11:44,772 --> 01:11:49,892
Speaker 20: Excuse my naivete, I don't know kilometers. But it topped

1523
01:11:49,933 --> 01:11:51,612
Speaker 20: them ten hours to move it overnight.

1524
01:11:51,973 --> 01:11:53,372
Speaker 3: Right, Wow, that's a big trip.

1525
01:11:54,452 --> 01:11:56,173
Speaker 2: And was that was that? Was that a house for

1526
01:11:56,253 --> 01:11:56,692
Speaker 2: you to live in?

1527
01:11:56,772 --> 01:11:57,012
Speaker 12: Paul?

1528
01:11:58,093 --> 01:12:02,452
Speaker 20: Yeah, we brought a section for a lifestyle block in

1529
01:12:02,532 --> 01:12:06,893
Speaker 20: Hastings and the guy that told us to said he

1530
01:12:07,013 --> 01:12:11,293
Speaker 20: knows Heartland homes and Pataro. When we drive back, talk

1531
01:12:11,333 --> 01:12:13,492
Speaker 20: from Popping and have a look at their show home,

1532
01:12:13,572 --> 01:12:17,092
Speaker 20: which we did, fell in love with it and basically

1533
01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:23,972
Speaker 20: ordered it then and then and yeah, so they built

1534
01:12:24,013 --> 01:12:30,092
Speaker 20: it and basically bought it over. It was eighteen meters

1535
01:12:30,173 --> 01:12:35,053
Speaker 20: long by seven wide, so there was a long load,

1536
01:12:35,133 --> 01:12:36,012
Speaker 20: but not a heavy load.

1537
01:12:36,692 --> 01:12:39,133
Speaker 2: There would have been an interesting overnight situation for you.

1538
01:12:40,213 --> 01:12:42,572
Speaker 2: Did you observe it or did you just wait waiting

1539
01:12:42,612 --> 01:12:44,492
Speaker 2: for a call to find out that it hadn't fallen

1540
01:12:44,572 --> 01:12:45,013
Speaker 2: off the back?

1541
01:12:45,173 --> 01:12:47,412
Speaker 20: Well, we knew. We knew it was leaving on a

1542
01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:52,133
Speaker 20: particular night that my wife Mary and her son were

1543
01:12:52,173 --> 01:12:58,932
Speaker 20: down here, and they went down to the down down

1544
01:12:58,973 --> 01:13:04,253
Speaker 20: the road by the motorway there. Then they followed it

1545
01:13:04,372 --> 01:13:11,133
Speaker 20: up and we lived ten kys up a country road,

1546
01:13:11,652 --> 01:13:14,492
Speaker 20: wiggles and tunes and everything. So they brought it up.

1547
01:13:14,933 --> 01:13:18,692
Speaker 20: Great job, fantastic. They bought it up onto our section,

1548
01:13:18,812 --> 01:13:21,852
Speaker 20: which was quite big, big on track. They put it

1549
01:13:21,973 --> 01:13:27,972
Speaker 20: up on Jack's got the dingo, dug all the holes

1550
01:13:28,013 --> 01:13:31,492
Speaker 20: for the piles. Big truck just drove out and swung

1551
01:13:31,532 --> 01:13:34,972
Speaker 20: around on the section because there's so much space. Came

1552
01:13:35,053 --> 01:13:36,972
Speaker 20: back the next day, dropped it down on the piles

1553
01:13:37,053 --> 01:13:40,612
Speaker 20: and tied it down. Fantastic job. We'll do it again

1554
01:13:40,652 --> 01:13:41,372
Speaker 20: if we could.

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01:13:41,692 --> 01:13:43,133
Speaker 2: How long did you live in it for, Paul?

1556
01:13:43,812 --> 01:13:44,492
Speaker 20: We're still in it?

1557
01:13:44,732 --> 01:13:46,852
Speaker 3: Oh, how good success story.

1558
01:13:46,973 --> 01:13:48,372
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, we've got to go to the heads. But

1559
01:13:48,973 --> 01:13:49,333
Speaker 2: how good.

1560
01:13:49,452 --> 01:13:51,412
Speaker 3: Yeah that worked out well? Right, just before we go,

1561
01:13:51,492 --> 01:13:52,372
Speaker 3: how long have you been in it for?

1562
01:13:52,692 --> 01:13:52,972
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1563
01:13:53,492 --> 01:13:54,812
Speaker 20: Eleven eleven years?

1564
01:13:55,093 --> 01:13:56,572
Speaker 2: Brilliant, good stuff.

1565
01:13:57,213 --> 01:13:59,852
Speaker 3: Right, it's nine to three. After the break, weave a

1566
01:13:59,933 --> 01:14:02,372
Speaker 3: chat to Doug, who is the pilot vehicle driver that's

1567
01:14:02,412 --> 01:14:02,772
Speaker 3: coming up.

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01:14:03,853 --> 01:14:06,173
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1569
01:14:06,293 --> 01:14:10,293
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler this afternoons used talk.

1570
01:14:10,173 --> 01:14:14,492
Speaker 2: Said yeah, I started talking the middle their break there

1571
01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:16,692
Speaker 2: didn't I A relocated a house from fung A to

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01:14:16,772 --> 01:14:19,492
Speaker 2: Rackina Island. Took three days. The place is still standing strong.

1573
01:14:19,572 --> 01:14:21,173
Speaker 2: That's quite a thing. So I wonder how much of

1574
01:14:21,213 --> 01:14:23,492
Speaker 2: that was done by sea? Did you come down from

1575
01:14:23,532 --> 01:14:25,692
Speaker 2: Breamhead or did you drive it down the motorway from

1576
01:14:25,732 --> 01:14:28,772
Speaker 2: Auckland and head over a pass? A total it's a story,

1577
01:14:28,933 --> 01:14:31,452
Speaker 2: massive barge. Yeah, we need more information on that one, Dug.

1578
01:14:31,652 --> 01:14:32,972
Speaker 2: So you're a pilot vehicle driver?

1579
01:14:34,133 --> 01:14:35,812
Speaker 21: Yeah, mate, what.

1580
01:14:37,372 --> 01:14:38,012
Speaker 2: Are the challenges?

1581
01:14:38,093 --> 01:14:38,133
Speaker 9: Like?

1582
01:14:40,452 --> 01:14:46,852
Speaker 21: Oh, quite a bit of that is actually the oncoming

1583
01:14:46,933 --> 01:14:53,852
Speaker 21: traffic taking notice of it. But yeah, challenges is keeping

1584
01:14:54,093 --> 01:14:57,253
Speaker 21: keeping your driver aware. But well, the main thing I

1585
01:14:57,333 --> 01:14:59,133
Speaker 21: wanted to point out to you guys was the speed

1586
01:14:59,253 --> 01:15:03,892
Speaker 21: on site. I'm just on the way back from raid

1587
01:15:03,933 --> 01:15:09,612
Speaker 21: to Rua with just delivered twenty one business for a school,

1588
01:15:10,093 --> 01:15:12,972
Speaker 21: twenty one modules from from Worry in Auckland.

1589
01:15:14,053 --> 01:15:14,293
Speaker 2: Wow.

1590
01:15:15,652 --> 01:15:19,852
Speaker 21: The six hundred and eighty square meters of classrooms was.

1591
01:15:22,173 --> 01:15:22,412
Speaker 13: Wow.

1592
01:15:23,732 --> 01:15:26,772
Speaker 21: There were sighted in a day and a half.

1593
01:15:27,692 --> 01:15:29,852
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.

1594
01:15:31,213 --> 01:15:32,692
Speaker 21: And to give you an idea. We did run a

1595
01:15:32,732 --> 01:15:37,652
Speaker 21: few probably eight months ago in Hamilton, four hundred square meters.

1596
01:15:38,652 --> 01:15:42,412
Speaker 21: The time on site from when the builders first tend

1597
01:15:42,492 --> 01:15:45,173
Speaker 21: us side on side of the school, so where they

1598
01:15:45,293 --> 01:15:48,492
Speaker 21: handed the keys to the principal on a four hundred

1599
01:15:48,492 --> 01:15:50,253
Speaker 21: square meter block was eight weeks.

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01:15:51,333 --> 01:15:53,652
Speaker 3: Wow, there is some efficiency right there. That's the way

1601
01:15:53,652 --> 01:15:54,452
Speaker 3: of the future, isn't it.

1602
01:15:54,692 --> 01:15:58,133
Speaker 2: That is phenomenal. Yeah, moving houses, it's it's so cool.

1603
01:15:58,572 --> 01:16:00,692
Speaker 2: He loved all those stories. Obviously there are a few

1604
01:16:00,692 --> 01:16:03,213
Speaker 2: complexities not just with moving but plugging them in and

1605
01:16:03,293 --> 01:16:06,532
Speaker 2: also the bank as well. But I love the ingenuity

1606
01:16:06,572 --> 01:16:08,732
Speaker 2: involved in Love Ay Allis's TV show as well.

1607
01:16:09,133 --> 01:16:11,452
Speaker 3: A great show. What a great chat that was fantastic.

1608
01:16:11,572 --> 01:16:13,452
Speaker 3: Thank you very much to everyone who called up to

1609
01:16:13,532 --> 01:16:16,852
Speaker 3: share their experiences and stories. Coming up after three o'clock,

1610
01:16:17,093 --> 01:16:20,173
Speaker 3: we want to talk about university halls. Some students having

1611
01:16:20,213 --> 01:16:21,772
Speaker 3: a bit of a wine that it costs too much.

1612
01:16:22,452 --> 01:16:24,333
Speaker 3: It is a rite of passage. I think it's still Liz,

1613
01:16:24,412 --> 01:16:26,532
Speaker 3: but we're keen to hear from you if you're appearance

1614
01:16:26,532 --> 01:16:29,013
Speaker 3: are students. Is it still the way to go? Oh

1615
01:16:29,053 --> 01:16:30,812
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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01:16:30,812 --> 01:16:32,692
Speaker 3: to call. Nineteen ninet two is the text number news

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01:16:32,772 --> 01:16:35,052
Speaker 3: put the weather fast approaching will be back soon.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1619
01:16:42,412 --> 01:16:46,253
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Sevy.

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01:16:46,893 --> 01:16:50,173
Speaker 3: Good eighty you welcome back into the show seven past three.

1621
01:16:50,253 --> 01:16:53,013
Speaker 3: Really good having you listen. As always, there's going to

1622
01:16:53,013 --> 01:16:55,253
Speaker 3: be a good chat. So university halls have long been

1623
01:16:55,333 --> 01:16:58,452
Speaker 3: seen as a ride a passage for students, but more

1624
01:16:58,492 --> 01:17:00,812
Speaker 3: and more are saying the cost is getting too expensive.

1625
01:17:00,853 --> 01:17:03,253
Speaker 3: So students are now paying on average around thirty thousand

1626
01:17:03,253 --> 01:17:05,612
Speaker 3: dollars a year to live in these cadence halls. Study

1627
01:17:05,652 --> 01:17:08,093
Speaker 3: Link meanwhile, provides a living cost of up to three

1628
01:17:08,452 --> 01:17:10,372
Speaker 3: and twenty three dollars a week. When you break it

1629
01:17:10,412 --> 01:17:13,412
Speaker 3: all down, students say short by about one hundred and

1630
01:17:13,492 --> 01:17:16,532
Speaker 3: forty bucks a week. Just to give you an idea

1631
01:17:16,572 --> 01:17:18,812
Speaker 3: on what is actually provided for that thirty k years,

1632
01:17:18,973 --> 01:17:23,293
Speaker 3: so it's three meals a day catered halls, and they

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01:17:23,333 --> 01:17:27,732
Speaker 3: also provide utilities, pastoral care and social events as well.

1634
01:17:27,853 --> 01:17:28,772
Speaker 2: What's pastoral care?

1635
01:17:29,093 --> 01:17:31,812
Speaker 3: I think that's just someone who looks after the children

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01:17:31,893 --> 01:17:34,213
Speaker 3: in the particular. We're not children, sorry, students in the

1637
01:17:34,293 --> 01:17:36,772
Speaker 3: halls if things get a bit rowdy, isn't that the RA,

1638
01:17:37,173 --> 01:17:37,532
Speaker 3: that's the.

1639
01:17:38,572 --> 01:17:41,333
Speaker 2: Pastoral care, is the support provider to sure the emotional, physical,

1640
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:42,892
Speaker 2: and spiritual well being out of individual.

1641
01:17:43,452 --> 01:17:44,893
Speaker 3: That's a much better way to say it. Thank you.

1642
01:17:45,093 --> 01:17:48,213
Speaker 3: I was stumbling around in the dark there. But you know,

1643
01:17:48,333 --> 01:17:51,372
Speaker 3: thirty k year. Look, I get that it's wildly expensive.

1644
01:17:51,492 --> 01:17:54,213
Speaker 3: But when as a parent you know that you've got

1645
01:17:54,333 --> 01:17:58,612
Speaker 3: the RAS and the pastoral care and then you've got

1646
01:17:58,732 --> 01:18:02,333
Speaker 3: three feeds a day, that is peace of mind as

1647
01:18:02,372 --> 01:18:02,692
Speaker 3: a parent.

1648
01:18:02,772 --> 01:18:05,652
Speaker 2: Surely, yeah, I mean, fantastic thing to do if you

1649
01:18:05,692 --> 01:18:07,492
Speaker 2: can get into a hall. I'm gutted that I never

1650
01:18:07,532 --> 01:18:09,973
Speaker 2: went to a hall in jail and my son's been

1651
01:18:10,013 --> 01:18:12,013
Speaker 2: in a hall. I just moved to stuff out the

1652
01:18:12,013 --> 01:18:15,652
Speaker 2: other day actually, And just such a great way to

1653
01:18:15,732 --> 01:18:18,452
Speaker 2: do university, the absolute best way to do university. Because

1654
01:18:18,492 --> 01:18:21,172
Speaker 2: you're on campus, you're part of you're part of everything.

1655
01:18:21,293 --> 01:18:22,893
Speaker 2: I think it helps you study more, it helps you

1656
01:18:23,133 --> 01:18:26,532
Speaker 2: feel more and engaged with the whole education process that

1657
01:18:26,652 --> 01:18:29,852
Speaker 2: you're going through. It's fantastic. But so study link is

1658
01:18:30,053 --> 01:18:31,732
Speaker 2: you know you can borrow three hundred and twenty three

1659
01:18:31,732 --> 01:18:36,772
Speaker 2: dollars a week and there's more expensive halls and less

1660
01:18:36,772 --> 01:18:39,093
Speaker 2: expensive halls. They can be you know, four hundred and

1661
01:18:39,133 --> 01:18:41,692
Speaker 2: sixty dollars, So you may have to make up the

1662
01:18:41,732 --> 01:18:44,253
Speaker 2: difference of one hundred and forty dollars a week. But

1663
01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:47,452
Speaker 2: if you go to university, right that I mean that

1664
01:18:47,973 --> 01:18:51,093
Speaker 2: it seems I mean, things cost money, right, and so

1665
01:18:51,213 --> 01:18:58,692
Speaker 2: if you're housed and feared and pastoral care then and

1666
01:18:58,933 --> 01:19:01,692
Speaker 2: you know the security around it, then four hundred and

1667
01:19:01,692 --> 01:19:03,213
Speaker 2: sixty dollars a week seems pretty good to me.

1668
01:19:03,412 --> 01:19:05,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to. I didn't do UNI halls either,

1669
01:19:05,572 --> 01:19:07,532
Speaker 3: and like you, I regret that. But I still had

1670
01:19:07,532 --> 01:19:12,012
Speaker 3: to top up my income when I was renting because

1671
01:19:12,133 --> 01:19:13,852
Speaker 3: what I was getting from study Link, and I had

1672
01:19:13,893 --> 01:19:15,692
Speaker 3: to pay that back like everybody else. But it wasn't

1673
01:19:15,732 --> 01:19:17,333
Speaker 3: that much, but one hundred and fifty bucks to go

1674
01:19:17,492 --> 01:19:19,412
Speaker 3: towards the rent. I think at the time we were

1675
01:19:19,412 --> 01:19:22,053
Speaker 3: getting just over two hundred bucks, so fifty bucks a

1676
01:19:22,133 --> 01:19:24,093
Speaker 3: week for booze because you're a student. Of course you

1677
01:19:24,173 --> 01:19:25,932
Speaker 3: got you got a price booze into which is part

1678
01:19:25,973 --> 01:19:30,133
Speaker 3: of the deal. But food, transport, anything else that was

1679
01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:32,253
Speaker 3: just not enough. And I ate a lot of eggs,

1680
01:19:32,372 --> 01:19:34,093
Speaker 3: hell of a lot of eggs. Eggs wuld cheap back then,

1681
01:19:34,572 --> 01:19:35,692
Speaker 3: but I still needed to do.

1682
01:19:35,853 --> 01:19:38,013
Speaker 2: When I was at university, my meal of choice was

1683
01:19:38,093 --> 01:19:38,852
Speaker 2: pastor and salt.

1684
01:19:39,372 --> 01:19:42,732
Speaker 3: Pastor and salt. Yeah, just that is tough times.

1685
01:19:42,973 --> 01:19:45,612
Speaker 2: I think university you meant to be broke. It's important

1686
01:19:45,692 --> 01:19:47,892
Speaker 2: to go through university having no money. It's an important

1687
01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:50,253
Speaker 2: lesson to have. Yeah, and you know, I look back

1688
01:19:50,333 --> 01:19:53,053
Speaker 2: fondly on those days and I had absolutely nothing, and

1689
01:19:53,452 --> 01:19:55,293
Speaker 2: you know, I had to work a part time job

1690
01:19:55,452 --> 01:19:58,053
Speaker 2: to pay for my life. It was actually it was

1691
01:19:58,053 --> 01:19:59,732
Speaker 2: actually kind of fun being that broke.

1692
01:19:59,853 --> 01:20:02,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, character building as well, but I would have killed

1693
01:20:02,213 --> 01:20:04,972
Speaker 3: for three meals a day to know that I actually

1694
01:20:05,093 --> 01:20:07,093
Speaker 3: had food that I could go home to. I had

1695
01:20:07,133 --> 01:20:11,293
Speaker 3: to sacrifice, you know, food for arguably boost But again

1696
01:20:11,492 --> 01:20:12,613
Speaker 3: that's part of barcel.

1697
01:20:12,372 --> 01:20:15,812
Speaker 2: When we hear these things, and like this person's texting, Hey, guys,

1698
01:20:16,412 --> 01:20:18,133
Speaker 2: you mentioned about it being an extra one hundred and

1699
01:20:18,133 --> 01:20:20,012
Speaker 2: forty dollars on top of study Link and that editor

1700
01:20:20,013 --> 01:20:23,812
Speaker 2: you guys have shown. It's really shocking to see how

1701
01:20:23,853 --> 01:20:27,732
Speaker 2: out of touch someone can be. But nothing is free.

1702
01:20:28,213 --> 01:20:32,133
Speaker 2: So study Link will let you borrow three hundred and

1703
01:20:32,133 --> 01:20:33,933
Speaker 2: twenty three dollars a week and so the gap is

1704
01:20:33,973 --> 01:20:34,932
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty dollars.

1705
01:20:35,173 --> 01:20:35,372
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1706
01:20:36,093 --> 01:20:39,492
Speaker 2: So if as the complaint that study links should give

1707
01:20:39,532 --> 01:20:41,692
Speaker 2: you all the money and that you can borrow all

1708
01:20:41,853 --> 01:20:44,852
Speaker 2: the money to do it, but what happens is a

1709
01:20:44,893 --> 01:20:46,772
Speaker 2: supply and demand, then then I'm sure what would happen

1710
01:20:46,893 --> 01:20:48,652
Speaker 2: is that the halls would then be another one hundred

1711
01:20:48,652 --> 01:20:49,732
Speaker 2: and forty dollars on top of that.

1712
01:20:50,013 --> 01:20:52,732
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, yeah, exactly, that would be catered into it.

1713
01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:55,372
Speaker 3: But I think for most students, you've got to find

1714
01:20:55,452 --> 01:20:57,572
Speaker 3: a little bit extra, whether that's part time work or

1715
01:20:57,612 --> 01:20:59,893
Speaker 3: if you're lucky enough to have parents help you. I

1716
01:21:00,053 --> 01:21:02,173
Speaker 3: wasn't lucky enough that mum just didn't have enough money

1717
01:21:02,253 --> 01:21:04,452
Speaker 3: to provide, so I needed to do the work in

1718
01:21:04,492 --> 01:21:06,173
Speaker 3: the summer, and I needed to pick up part time

1719
01:21:06,253 --> 01:21:08,572
Speaker 3: jobs while I was Yeah, that was just hard and

1720
01:21:08,612 --> 01:21:11,932
Speaker 3: parcel that if you actually wanted to live, well, live

1721
01:21:12,093 --> 01:21:13,692
Speaker 3: just full stop, well it certainly it was a no

1722
01:21:13,812 --> 01:21:17,173
Speaker 3: frills lifestyle, but just to be able to provide enough

1723
01:21:17,213 --> 01:21:19,492
Speaker 3: for rent, you had to do a little bit extra work.

1724
01:21:19,973 --> 01:21:22,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I get it's unfair. Life is unfair.

1725
01:21:23,053 --> 01:21:26,532
Speaker 2: Some people don't get what other people get, and so

1726
01:21:26,732 --> 01:21:29,093
Speaker 2: some people's parents can just pay the money and give

1727
01:21:29,133 --> 01:21:30,852
Speaker 2: them some more stuff. And I remember when I was

1728
01:21:30,853 --> 01:21:33,052
Speaker 2: at university, there was because I was down in a targo,

1729
01:21:33,492 --> 01:21:35,692
Speaker 2: but I was from Dunedin and so there was a

1730
01:21:35,732 --> 01:21:37,812
Speaker 2: lot of these rich kids that were coming in from

1731
01:21:38,652 --> 01:21:42,572
Speaker 2: from Auckland and they seemed to be able to go

1732
01:21:42,612 --> 01:21:45,293
Speaker 2: snowboarding every weekend. But that was just the way I was.

1733
01:21:46,893 --> 01:21:48,532
Speaker 2: I know, just because some other people have it good

1734
01:21:48,572 --> 01:21:49,852
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you have it bad.

1735
01:21:50,213 --> 01:21:50,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1736
01:21:50,973 --> 01:21:53,093
Speaker 2: So if you've got a situation where you only have

1737
01:21:53,173 --> 01:21:54,932
Speaker 2: to earn another one hundred and forty dollars a week

1738
01:21:55,093 --> 01:21:58,053
Speaker 2: to stay and be completely housed and food, I mean

1739
01:21:58,612 --> 01:22:01,093
Speaker 2: you're going to have to It's going to cost that

1740
01:22:01,253 --> 01:22:04,492
Speaker 2: much money to live anyway, so you can't live for nothing.

1741
01:22:04,772 --> 01:22:07,492
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighties and

1742
01:22:07,572 --> 01:22:10,692
Speaker 3: I'm to create I from wrong. But I think there's

1743
01:22:10,772 --> 01:22:13,253
Speaker 3: massive weight lists for a lot of the university halls

1744
01:22:13,293 --> 01:22:15,372
Speaker 3: at the moment, So clearly there's a lot of people

1745
01:22:15,412 --> 01:22:17,253
Speaker 3: that are okay with paying that money. If you're a

1746
01:22:17,333 --> 01:22:20,372
Speaker 3: parent right now, or indeed a student listening, I mean,

1747
01:22:20,452 --> 01:22:22,452
Speaker 3: do you honestly think that that thirty thousand dollars do

1748
01:22:22,532 --> 01:22:25,173
Speaker 3: you not get bang for buck for that considering if

1749
01:22:25,213 --> 01:22:28,173
Speaker 3: you're a parent, that's security knowing that there is care

1750
01:22:28,293 --> 01:22:31,213
Speaker 3: and support available for your kid. There is food if

1751
01:22:31,253 --> 01:22:33,692
Speaker 3: they ever get hungry, it's there, ready to go. That

1752
01:22:33,933 --> 01:22:36,252
Speaker 3: is a big safety net for their first year at university.

1753
01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:38,253
Speaker 3: So it's an entry into kind of the real world,

1754
01:22:38,293 --> 01:22:38,572
Speaker 3: isn't it.

1755
01:22:38,732 --> 01:22:38,932
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1756
01:22:38,933 --> 01:22:41,013
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you can borrow that money, right,

1757
01:22:41,013 --> 01:22:43,133
Speaker 2: and then you need that. It doesn't quite get you there,

1758
01:22:43,253 --> 01:22:45,492
Speaker 2: buts and so you have to pay back that money.

1759
01:22:45,532 --> 01:22:47,732
Speaker 2: And so hopefully you're doing a course that will enable

1760
01:22:47,732 --> 01:22:49,293
Speaker 2: you to pay that back that money. And that's a

1761
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:53,932
Speaker 2: whole different conversation. But as I say, it's still going

1762
01:22:53,973 --> 01:22:56,572
Speaker 2: to cost you that gap anyway to live. Yeah, if

1763
01:22:56,572 --> 01:22:58,612
Speaker 2: you're living at home, it's going to cost you know,

1764
01:22:58,812 --> 01:23:02,612
Speaker 2: an eighteen nineteen twenty year old is going to it's

1765
01:23:02,612 --> 01:23:04,053
Speaker 2: going to cost them more than one hundred and forty

1766
01:23:04,093 --> 01:23:04,932
Speaker 2: dollars a week.

1767
01:23:04,812 --> 01:23:07,452
Speaker 3: Just at their home thirty grand a year for living expenses.

1768
01:23:07,452 --> 01:23:09,333
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. But what do you say, eight hundred

1769
01:23:09,412 --> 01:23:11,532
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two

1770
01:23:11,612 --> 01:23:12,852
Speaker 3: nine two is a text and.

1771
01:23:13,973 --> 01:23:17,412
Speaker 2: Halls of residents in terms of universities, let's talk about them,

1772
01:23:17,452 --> 01:23:20,133
Speaker 2: how important they are. I've got fomo because I didn't go,

1773
01:23:20,293 --> 01:23:22,173
Speaker 2: and they seem like the most the funnest thing in

1774
01:23:22,213 --> 01:23:25,093
Speaker 2: the world. Seeing my son go to one, I just

1775
01:23:25,253 --> 01:23:28,492
Speaker 2: realized now how important they absolutely are. And I would say,

1776
01:23:28,532 --> 01:23:30,372
Speaker 2: you'd want to move eaven and Earth to go there,

1777
01:23:30,612 --> 01:23:32,612
Speaker 2: so you know you can just be part of the

1778
01:23:32,652 --> 01:23:34,732
Speaker 2: whole university. But what do you think one hundred and

1779
01:23:34,732 --> 01:23:37,852
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty thirteen past three, back of a month news

1780
01:23:37,933 --> 01:23:39,772
Speaker 2: talk said the sixteen past.

1781
01:23:39,532 --> 01:23:41,612
Speaker 3: Three we're talking about the university halls is it's still

1782
01:23:41,652 --> 01:23:45,133
Speaker 3: a writer passage for students. Important as a parent for

1783
01:23:45,173 --> 01:23:47,452
Speaker 3: your kid to have their first year in a unihor.

1784
01:23:47,372 --> 01:23:50,412
Speaker 2: This Texas is My second daughter just had the most

1785
01:23:50,452 --> 01:23:54,772
Speaker 2: incredible year in her university hall of residence, met some

1786
01:23:54,893 --> 01:23:57,612
Speaker 2: great friends and had the most fun year and also

1787
01:23:57,692 --> 01:23:59,812
Speaker 2: did well in her courses. Was a fantastic balance of

1788
01:23:59,893 --> 01:24:02,652
Speaker 2: work hard, play hard, and yes, knowing the pastoral care

1789
01:24:02,772 --> 01:24:04,412
Speaker 2: was there was a great peace of mind. Was a

1790
01:24:04,492 --> 01:24:08,213
Speaker 2: life changing experience for her with lifelong friends. So true,

1791
01:24:08,333 --> 01:24:10,093
Speaker 2: it's definitely worth it if you can make it work,

1792
01:24:10,732 --> 01:24:13,412
Speaker 2: and it is a terrible thing in the world that

1793
01:24:14,013 --> 01:24:17,213
Speaker 2: not everyone can make everything work in life. Some people

1794
01:24:17,333 --> 01:24:20,093
Speaker 2: just can't do some things that happens across the board.

1795
01:24:20,173 --> 01:24:20,333
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1796
01:24:20,372 --> 01:24:22,372
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But that last line is so true. You know,

1797
01:24:22,492 --> 01:24:24,692
Speaker 3: making some lifelong friends. That's a massive part of it

1798
01:24:24,772 --> 01:24:27,092
Speaker 3: that you're getting into the real world. You meet fellow

1799
01:24:27,173 --> 01:24:29,492
Speaker 3: students and then in your second year you go flatting

1800
01:24:29,492 --> 01:24:30,732
Speaker 3: with your friends. Isn't that how it works?

1801
01:24:30,893 --> 01:24:33,133
Speaker 2: This person is pushing back on me complaining about the

1802
01:24:33,213 --> 01:24:35,932
Speaker 2: Auckland people that came down and with snowboarding every weekend

1803
01:24:36,013 --> 01:24:38,893
Speaker 2: can be done super early bird student passes affordable, just

1804
01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:41,492
Speaker 2: get organized people, things can be done. Yeah, I mean

1805
01:24:41,532 --> 01:24:43,013
Speaker 2: I did go snowboarding quite a lot.

1806
01:24:43,933 --> 01:24:44,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good time.

1807
01:24:44,612 --> 01:24:48,532
Speaker 2: So that's why I was eating pasta and salt. Jake,

1808
01:24:48,893 --> 01:24:51,252
Speaker 2: welcome to show your thoughts on halls of residents.

1809
01:24:52,293 --> 01:24:52,732
Speaker 9: You you get it.

1810
01:24:53,532 --> 01:24:56,412
Speaker 12: My best friend was in a hall last year because

1811
01:24:56,412 --> 01:24:59,053
Speaker 12: I'm seeking you at UNI down here in Deneen as

1812
01:24:59,053 --> 01:25:01,293
Speaker 12: Studham College and I was at home. So a bit

1813
01:25:01,333 --> 01:25:04,572
Speaker 12: of a contrast. And he is now flatting this year

1814
01:25:04,772 --> 01:25:08,213
Speaker 12: and he feels like financially he's starting on a back.

1815
01:25:09,452 --> 01:25:11,492
Speaker 2: Whereas did he get the study Did he get the

1816
01:25:11,532 --> 01:25:12,732
Speaker 2: study link loan?

1817
01:25:14,253 --> 01:25:16,293
Speaker 12: Yes he did. He had to take out. I haven't

1818
01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:19,253
Speaker 12: had to take out alone because I stayed at home

1819
01:25:19,933 --> 01:25:22,692
Speaker 12: and I was able to get a list in every

1820
01:25:22,772 --> 01:25:24,852
Speaker 12: day because I live at Adam Warrington next to the

1821
01:25:24,893 --> 01:25:25,492
Speaker 12: Spaceship House.

1822
01:25:25,572 --> 01:25:28,053
Speaker 2: Oh lovely and well we've talked before about the Spaceship Hower,

1823
01:25:28,213 --> 01:25:29,492
Speaker 2: haven't we, jet Jake?

1824
01:25:29,772 --> 01:25:30,572
Speaker 15: Jake, Yes, we have.

1825
01:25:30,812 --> 01:25:32,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, the space Ship House.

1826
01:25:33,372 --> 01:25:33,572
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1827
01:25:33,572 --> 01:25:36,293
Speaker 12: I get a list in every day. And because my

1828
01:25:36,372 --> 01:25:39,013
Speaker 12: parents would Nick they work next to the UNI. And

1829
01:25:39,173 --> 01:25:42,572
Speaker 12: he feels like he is starting off in debt whereas

1830
01:25:42,652 --> 01:25:44,133
Speaker 12: I am not starting off in debt.

1831
01:25:44,452 --> 01:25:47,052
Speaker 2: Did you did you feel did you feel you missed

1832
01:25:47,093 --> 01:25:49,293
Speaker 2: out on? Because you know, people that stay in halls

1833
01:25:49,333 --> 01:25:52,372
Speaker 2: talk about friends they made for life and the experience

1834
01:25:52,412 --> 01:25:54,053
Speaker 2: of UNI. Do you feel like I do? Because I

1835
01:25:54,372 --> 01:25:57,492
Speaker 2: was I was like you, Jake. I grew up in Dunedin,

1836
01:25:57,532 --> 01:25:59,652
Speaker 2: so when we went to university it seemed insane to

1837
01:25:59,732 --> 01:26:02,932
Speaker 2: me to not, you know, to to move into a hall.

1838
01:26:03,372 --> 01:26:03,772
Speaker 13: But did you?

1839
01:26:03,973 --> 01:26:06,213
Speaker 2: But now I feel like I missed out on quite

1840
01:26:06,213 --> 01:26:07,812
Speaker 2: an amazing experience. Do you do you feel like you

1841
01:26:07,893 --> 01:26:09,053
Speaker 2: missed out on? And think Jake?

1842
01:26:10,173 --> 01:26:10,612
Speaker 9: Yes and no.

1843
01:26:11,532 --> 01:26:14,052
Speaker 12: Every lunchtime I'd go because he's my best friend. I'd

1844
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:16,772
Speaker 12: go and eat dinner at the eat lunch at his hall,

1845
01:26:16,893 --> 01:26:21,053
Speaker 12: so that was fine lunch, yes and.

1846
01:26:22,532 --> 01:26:22,572
Speaker 14: No.

1847
01:26:22,812 --> 01:26:25,772
Speaker 12: As in like, he said that the environment in the

1848
01:26:25,812 --> 01:26:28,173
Speaker 12: hall was good at the start because everyone's there, you know,

1849
01:26:28,293 --> 01:26:30,852
Speaker 12: at the start to be social and make friends. But

1850
01:26:31,053 --> 01:26:34,652
Speaker 12: then everyone is there for the same goal, which is

1851
01:26:34,732 --> 01:26:38,333
Speaker 12: being studying and getting good results. So even though you're

1852
01:26:38,333 --> 01:26:41,213
Speaker 12: in a social environment, everyone kind of shells up towards

1853
01:26:41,253 --> 01:26:43,932
Speaker 12: the end of semesters. And he said that's a very

1854
01:26:44,412 --> 01:26:46,572
Speaker 12: It's like you're forced to be social, but no one

1855
01:26:46,612 --> 01:26:48,253
Speaker 12: wants to be social at that time. And he said

1856
01:26:48,253 --> 01:26:51,572
Speaker 12: it was a very awkward experience because you're in an

1857
01:26:51,652 --> 01:26:55,213
Speaker 12: environment encouraging you to be social. Everyone's spelling away.

1858
01:26:56,333 --> 01:26:58,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sort of changes at the end

1859
01:26:58,572 --> 01:26:58,892
Speaker 2: of the year.

1860
01:26:58,933 --> 01:26:59,053
Speaker 7: Though.

1861
01:26:59,133 --> 01:27:02,572
Speaker 2: They stopped the partying around exam time, don't they Jake.

1862
01:27:03,173 --> 01:27:07,053
Speaker 12: Yeah, they stopped the partying, but everyone kind of does.

1863
01:27:07,133 --> 01:27:09,612
Speaker 12: But it's sort of it was like a very because

1864
01:27:09,612 --> 01:27:11,532
Speaker 12: you're forced to be social, you know, living in a hall.

1865
01:27:11,532 --> 01:27:15,053
Speaker 12: But he see, it's a very weird shift. Whereas for me,

1866
01:27:15,692 --> 01:27:18,293
Speaker 12: every week was the same because I'd get hassled by

1867
01:27:18,333 --> 01:27:20,532
Speaker 12: my siblings in the morning, go to UNI and get

1868
01:27:20,572 --> 01:27:21,972
Speaker 12: hassled by my siblings in the afternoon.

1869
01:27:23,333 --> 01:27:24,972
Speaker 2: And are you going to go floating this year?

1870
01:27:25,692 --> 01:27:25,932
Speaker 5: Jake?

1871
01:27:27,652 --> 01:27:31,772
Speaker 12: Next year? A year at home this year, so's two

1872
01:27:31,853 --> 01:27:33,892
Speaker 12: years at home and still haven't had to take out

1873
01:27:33,893 --> 01:27:36,972
Speaker 12: a loan because of him. I work whilst I study.

1874
01:27:37,213 --> 01:27:40,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're putting that money away, are you, Jake, Well,

1875
01:27:40,333 --> 01:27:41,892
Speaker 3: you're traditionally put into a UNI.

1876
01:27:41,973 --> 01:27:43,812
Speaker 7: Hall. Uh.

1877
01:27:44,652 --> 01:27:47,612
Speaker 12: Well, I'm using that money to pay for course fees

1878
01:27:47,732 --> 01:27:52,692
Speaker 12: and also petrol when my driving in well, when my

1879
01:27:52,893 --> 01:27:54,972
Speaker 12: UNI doesn't line up with my parents' work and I'd

1880
01:27:55,093 --> 01:27:56,012
Speaker 12: have to drive in myself.

1881
01:27:57,133 --> 01:28:03,012
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and yeah, I mean it depends, doesn't

1882
01:28:03,013 --> 01:28:06,772
Speaker 2: it what you think university is as you say, so obviously,

1883
01:28:08,412 --> 01:28:13,133
Speaker 2: because for some people it's purely getting the qualification and

1884
01:28:13,612 --> 01:28:18,253
Speaker 2: for some people it's an exercise and making friends, right, Yeah,

1885
01:28:18,492 --> 01:28:19,333
Speaker 2: Well I.

1886
01:28:20,213 --> 01:28:22,852
Speaker 12: Have my mates all like set up. I met new

1887
01:28:22,933 --> 01:28:26,932
Speaker 12: friends during the year, like not at parties and stuff,

1888
01:28:27,093 --> 01:28:31,053
Speaker 12: just in the course, and but like I'm not a

1889
01:28:31,173 --> 01:28:35,293
Speaker 12: party guy and neither is my mate. Yeah, and so yeah,

1890
01:28:35,612 --> 01:28:37,812
Speaker 12: I can't speak for everyone. I can just speak for

1891
01:28:38,412 --> 01:28:40,372
Speaker 12: I don't want to say like them, not like a nerd,

1892
01:28:40,492 --> 01:28:42,452
Speaker 12: but that group that kind of wants to go in

1893
01:28:42,572 --> 01:28:44,812
Speaker 12: there get the stuff done and then leave as quickly

1894
01:28:44,853 --> 01:28:45,452
Speaker 12: as possible.

1895
01:28:46,452 --> 01:28:48,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. So your mate that went to the halls in

1896
01:28:49,213 --> 01:28:51,812
Speaker 2: duned and was also from Dunedin, is that correct?

1897
01:28:52,532 --> 01:28:55,333
Speaker 12: Yeah, he didn't need to he lived two kilometers away.

1898
01:28:55,652 --> 01:28:57,692
Speaker 12: What do I live out in Origon and I had

1899
01:28:57,732 --> 01:28:59,133
Speaker 12: a drive in twenty k every day?

1900
01:28:59,253 --> 01:28:59,772
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1901
01:29:00,772 --> 01:29:02,213
Speaker 2: I didn't know when I was growing up that that

1902
01:29:02,333 --> 01:29:04,452
Speaker 2: was a thing that you would go to a hall

1903
01:29:04,492 --> 01:29:05,892
Speaker 2: if you lived in the city that you were going

1904
01:29:05,933 --> 01:29:08,973
Speaker 2: to university. I couldn't even imagine that with you on

1905
01:29:09,093 --> 01:29:12,013
Speaker 2: that That's why I didn't do it. Yeah, because you

1906
01:29:12,133 --> 01:29:13,893
Speaker 2: had a home. It seems it seems like, as you

1907
01:29:13,973 --> 01:29:16,133
Speaker 2: say that, that's a lot of money to borrow to

1908
01:29:16,253 --> 01:29:17,732
Speaker 2: do that. I mean, it's a great nice to have

1909
01:29:18,013 --> 01:29:21,093
Speaker 2: that you could be, you know, living this dream college life.

1910
01:29:21,452 --> 01:29:23,532
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, is it worth

1911
01:29:23,572 --> 01:29:25,492
Speaker 2: that kind of debt? I get what you're saying there.

1912
01:29:26,492 --> 01:29:30,772
Speaker 12: Yeah, like it cost him on thirty grand but he

1913
01:29:31,532 --> 01:29:33,612
Speaker 12: said it was like, yeah, you meet people, but in

1914
01:29:33,732 --> 01:29:35,772
Speaker 12: the end you just feel like you're starting off on

1915
01:29:35,812 --> 01:29:38,452
Speaker 12: the backbook because unless you've met like, you're going in

1916
01:29:38,572 --> 01:29:41,532
Speaker 12: there with no friends, you know, like having to make

1917
01:29:41,572 --> 01:29:44,173
Speaker 12: friends whereas he already has me and my other mates,

1918
01:29:44,213 --> 01:29:46,973
Speaker 12: and so he went in with a scholar because you've

1919
01:29:46,973 --> 01:29:50,333
Speaker 12: got a scholarship there. Yeah, but my other friends, you

1920
01:29:50,412 --> 01:29:52,492
Speaker 12: went in there without a scholarship. He's the one that

1921
01:29:52,532 --> 01:29:54,772
Speaker 12: I'm talking about that starting off on the back foot. Yeah,

1922
01:29:55,293 --> 01:29:58,333
Speaker 12: unless you get a scholarship in there, I wouldn't see

1923
01:29:58,372 --> 01:30:00,492
Speaker 12: the point in spending thirty thousand dollars if you have

1924
01:30:00,572 --> 01:30:01,652
Speaker 12: the choice of staying at home.

1925
01:30:01,933 --> 01:30:03,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you're you know, like you and you're

1926
01:30:03,933 --> 01:30:06,333
Speaker 2: living there at the spaceship house and stuff, so you

1927
01:30:06,333 --> 01:30:08,093
Speaker 2: don't want to move too far away from the spaceship house.

1928
01:30:08,333 --> 01:30:08,812
Speaker 3: Beautiful one.

1929
01:30:08,893 --> 01:30:11,412
Speaker 2: But but the other thing is if you can leach

1930
01:30:11,492 --> 01:30:15,293
Speaker 2: off your friends so you get the experience as you have,

1931
01:30:16,253 --> 01:30:19,253
Speaker 2: so you get a bit of the hall's life while

1932
01:30:19,452 --> 01:30:21,452
Speaker 2: not running up the debt. So you know, I can

1933
01:30:21,492 --> 01:30:21,772
Speaker 2: see that.

1934
01:30:22,692 --> 01:30:22,892
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1935
01:30:23,173 --> 01:30:25,013
Speaker 12: Well, the people that live in the halls, they're all

1936
01:30:25,133 --> 01:30:28,852
Speaker 12: really wretch though they're not kind of my my vibe.

1937
01:30:28,893 --> 01:30:31,053
Speaker 12: So I was kind of glad that I wasn't in

1938
01:30:31,173 --> 01:30:33,013
Speaker 12: there because they're all I don't know. It was the

1939
01:30:33,492 --> 01:30:35,253
Speaker 12: hall that they were in, it was the rich hall,

1940
01:30:35,293 --> 01:30:35,652
Speaker 12: And I was like.

1941
01:30:35,772 --> 01:30:38,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, well see that's the thing because people are and

1942
01:30:38,213 --> 01:30:40,932
Speaker 2: on the text machine here that they're calling us scum

1943
01:30:41,372 --> 01:30:43,452
Speaker 2: and horrible rich people because we mentioned that we went

1944
01:30:43,492 --> 01:30:46,532
Speaker 2: snowboarding once or twice and whenever you talk about anything, there's.

1945
01:30:48,893 --> 01:30:49,053
Speaker 5: Do you.

1946
01:30:49,293 --> 01:30:53,293
Speaker 2: But the thing is there are there are snooty flash

1947
01:30:53,772 --> 01:30:58,213
Speaker 2: halls and then there's just the big tall, you.

1948
01:30:58,253 --> 01:31:01,012
Speaker 3: Know, run of the mill. Yeah, the beer bones, no frills,

1949
01:31:01,173 --> 01:31:04,692
Speaker 3: no frills, violent, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was a snooty

1950
01:31:04,732 --> 01:31:06,613
Speaker 3: one by the way, and Danita I should.

1951
01:31:06,412 --> 01:31:08,573
Speaker 12: Know that Adam Studham college.

1952
01:31:08,452 --> 01:31:09,692
Speaker 3: Mate, all right, yeah?

1953
01:31:09,893 --> 01:31:11,452
Speaker 2: And then they all hang out.

1954
01:31:11,772 --> 01:31:14,452
Speaker 12: On a raise, not a hill, but a raised.

1955
01:31:14,692 --> 01:31:17,013
Speaker 2: But they're miles away from the university.

1956
01:31:16,532 --> 01:31:21,333
Speaker 12: There, No, they about all the two hundred meters.

1957
01:31:21,532 --> 01:31:23,333
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm thinking of a different haul then, am I

1958
01:31:23,412 --> 01:31:25,293
Speaker 2: thinking of someone someone else?

1959
01:31:25,333 --> 01:31:25,932
Speaker 20: Is a bit sweet?

1960
01:31:26,053 --> 01:31:29,173
Speaker 2: What's the one surrounded in trees that's super snooty but

1961
01:31:29,452 --> 01:31:30,212
Speaker 2: miles away.

1962
01:31:31,692 --> 01:31:32,933
Speaker 12: The one of them that that would be?

1963
01:31:33,053 --> 01:31:33,572
Speaker 7: I think that's.

1964
01:31:36,253 --> 01:31:38,213
Speaker 2: I remember staying at night in one of those one night.

1965
01:31:38,372 --> 01:31:39,972
Speaker 2: Was it nice the hall?

1966
01:31:40,093 --> 01:31:40,293
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1967
01:31:40,492 --> 01:31:42,213
Speaker 12: The question is why were you staying at night in

1968
01:31:42,293 --> 01:31:43,333
Speaker 12: one of the mates?

1969
01:31:43,772 --> 01:31:43,972
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1970
01:31:44,093 --> 01:31:45,652
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I had to run the Gordonlant leaving

1971
01:31:45,692 --> 01:31:48,293
Speaker 2: to not have to pay staying over anyway, that's that parcel.

1972
01:31:48,333 --> 01:31:53,012
Speaker 2: It's not about me, j That was in the distant past.

1973
01:31:53,333 --> 01:31:59,053
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I mean, if you're happy with with

1974
01:31:59,253 --> 01:32:01,053
Speaker 2: what you did then, and and you you know, it'd

1975
01:32:01,093 --> 01:32:02,772
Speaker 2: be silly for you to have borrowed all that money

1976
01:32:02,812 --> 01:32:05,372
Speaker 2: for something that that you didn't feel like you needed

1977
01:32:05,412 --> 01:32:08,812
Speaker 2: to do socially or academically. And if you come out

1978
01:32:08,853 --> 01:32:10,892
Speaker 2: the back end and you've got no fomo about the situation,

1979
01:32:11,093 --> 01:32:13,533
Speaker 2: then you're winning. Jake. Absolutely.

1980
01:32:13,933 --> 01:32:15,092
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I understand.

1981
01:32:15,213 --> 01:32:18,172
Speaker 12: But I'm just a small like I can't represent everybody.

1982
01:32:18,213 --> 01:32:20,812
Speaker 12: I'm definitely not representing everybody because there are people that

1983
01:32:20,933 --> 01:32:23,492
Speaker 12: love to piss up every week and I'm that guy.

1984
01:32:23,732 --> 01:32:26,452
Speaker 12: So I miss out on that social area bym not

1985
01:32:27,053 --> 01:32:27,772
Speaker 12: slagging in town.

1986
01:32:28,013 --> 01:32:31,652
Speaker 3: Yeah you've got it together, man. I mean just thinking

1987
01:32:31,692 --> 01:32:34,612
Speaker 3: about the student loan and in borrowing, I didn't think

1988
01:32:34,652 --> 01:32:37,173
Speaker 3: about that when I was twenty. Tick it up. I

1989
01:32:37,213 --> 01:32:38,893
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that now. I'll pay that

1990
01:32:38,973 --> 01:32:42,852
Speaker 3: back in twenty years. Ye idiot. I just had a

1991
01:32:42,893 --> 01:32:44,732
Speaker 3: quick look at at some of the prices for the

1992
01:32:44,973 --> 01:32:47,572
Speaker 3: Tago Unis Knox Hall is the one I was thinking about.

1993
01:32:47,612 --> 01:32:50,213
Speaker 3: I thought that was that's up there, bit snoody, But

1994
01:32:50,293 --> 01:32:54,532
Speaker 3: that's twenty three thousand dollars per year, Saint Mark's twenty

1995
01:32:54,572 --> 01:32:58,013
Speaker 3: two thousand, Salwyn House twenty four thousand, so it's a

1996
01:32:58,053 --> 01:32:59,452
Speaker 3: bit of a discount and old otago.

1997
01:33:00,933 --> 01:33:04,093
Speaker 2: Yeah right, because someone's someone here saying that where are

1998
01:33:04,173 --> 01:33:07,412
Speaker 2: we here? Over seven hundred dollars for AU two hauls

1999
01:33:07,492 --> 01:33:10,252
Speaker 2: catered two much And my daughter can't get living allowance

2000
01:33:10,253 --> 01:33:13,013
Speaker 2: alone because my cellar and her mums combined are too high.

2001
01:33:13,133 --> 01:33:16,372
Speaker 2: But we separated twelve years ago. Only for rich or poor,

2002
01:33:17,053 --> 01:33:19,612
Speaker 2: nothing affordable for middle class strugglers. Yeah, I mean that

2003
01:33:19,692 --> 01:33:22,692
Speaker 2: seems to be in this country at the moment. The

2004
01:33:23,213 --> 01:33:25,812
Speaker 2: middle class gets absolutely hammered.

2005
01:33:26,652 --> 01:33:28,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. Yeah, absolutely.

2006
01:33:29,053 --> 01:33:31,093
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2007
01:33:31,133 --> 01:33:33,133
Speaker 3: to call if you went through the University of Halls,

2008
01:33:33,612 --> 01:33:35,532
Speaker 3: was it worth it? And if you're currently there or

2009
01:33:35,612 --> 01:33:37,092
Speaker 3: you've got a parent of a student in the Halls,

2010
01:33:37,133 --> 01:33:38,612
Speaker 3: how is it going? Is it worth the money?

2011
01:33:39,013 --> 01:33:40,572
Speaker 2: This business is How do you know that you're going

2012
01:33:40,652 --> 01:33:43,372
Speaker 2: to meet lifelong friends if you've just met them? Well, yeah,

2013
01:33:43,372 --> 01:33:44,893
Speaker 2: I mean that's just a saying. I'm saying that you

2014
01:33:44,973 --> 01:33:45,852
Speaker 2: meet lifelong friends.

2015
01:33:45,973 --> 01:33:46,852
Speaker 20: Yeah, but you do.

2016
01:33:47,213 --> 01:33:50,652
Speaker 2: You do fast track your friendship in these halls seem

2017
01:33:50,692 --> 01:33:53,293
Speaker 2: because you're just a bunch of young people just out

2018
01:33:53,333 --> 01:33:55,892
Speaker 2: of home that are suddenly living in a big place

2019
01:33:55,933 --> 01:33:58,213
Speaker 2: with young people. You're just you're going to meet more

2020
01:33:58,253 --> 01:34:00,572
Speaker 2: people in the halls of halls. Yeah, it's just going

2021
01:34:00,612 --> 01:34:02,293
Speaker 2: to happen, just natural, it is. And some of them

2022
01:34:02,333 --> 01:34:03,772
Speaker 2: are going to be good people, and some of them aren't,

2023
01:34:03,853 --> 01:34:05,692
Speaker 2: but some of them are probably going to be. You're

2024
01:34:05,732 --> 01:34:08,772
Speaker 2: probably gonna meet some friends that that will be around

2025
01:34:08,812 --> 01:34:09,412
Speaker 2: with you for a while.

2026
01:34:09,492 --> 01:34:11,612
Speaker 3: Spot on twenty seven past three Back in a month.

2027
01:34:15,492 --> 01:34:18,852
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

2028
01:34:18,933 --> 01:34:21,012
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

2029
01:34:21,013 --> 01:34:24,253
Speaker 3: Twenty nine past three. A university halls still worth the money?

2030
01:34:24,372 --> 01:34:25,812
Speaker 3: Is it still a right? A passage? I eight hundred

2031
01:34:25,812 --> 01:34:26,492
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty se.

2032
01:34:26,572 --> 01:34:30,652
Speaker 2: Number this Texas says you typical Z B. Rich wankers,

2033
01:34:30,893 --> 01:34:33,492
Speaker 2: telling us peasants, we need to work harder so we

2034
01:34:33,532 --> 01:34:35,572
Speaker 2: can have the basics that you have sick of it.

2035
01:34:35,973 --> 01:34:38,652
Speaker 2: We don't all get easy life. You did and still

2036
01:34:38,812 --> 01:34:43,372
Speaker 2: have disgusting You have no empathy, you know nothing well texted,

2037
01:34:43,492 --> 01:34:46,052
Speaker 2: did you listen to what Tyler and I were saying before?

2038
01:34:46,492 --> 01:34:49,253
Speaker 2: When we were at university we had nothing? Yeah, I

2039
01:34:49,372 --> 01:34:51,772
Speaker 2: loved off pastor and salt. I used to have. I

2040
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:54,852
Speaker 2: had a chip al a chip, butty allowance when I

2041
01:34:54,893 --> 01:34:56,492
Speaker 2: didn't have the pastor and insult.

2042
01:34:56,612 --> 01:34:56,812
Speaker 16: Yeah.

2043
01:34:56,893 --> 01:35:00,052
Speaker 2: I lived in a bank vault that on Vogel Street

2044
01:35:00,772 --> 01:35:03,452
Speaker 2: when I went flatting didn't have what do you mean?

2045
01:35:03,572 --> 01:35:06,212
Speaker 2: Exactly typical, zed b rich wankers.

2046
01:35:06,293 --> 01:35:08,172
Speaker 3: I lived in the laundry. I was in the laundry

2047
01:35:08,452 --> 01:35:10,692
Speaker 3: and living on eggs. I was worried about my cholesterol.

2048
01:35:10,732 --> 01:35:12,732
Speaker 3: Turned out that was a lie. But you know, I

2049
01:35:12,853 --> 01:35:15,092
Speaker 3: mean that's all I could affords trays of eggs.

2050
01:35:15,293 --> 01:35:17,732
Speaker 2: Me and my mate's spoos had to top and tail

2051
01:35:17,933 --> 01:35:22,013
Speaker 2: under a stare for a while at a flat and

2052
01:35:22,093 --> 01:35:22,452
Speaker 2: we were.

2053
01:35:22,372 --> 01:35:25,812
Speaker 3: Having a good man is it nice? Cuddler stinks Yeah,

2054
01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:30,532
Speaker 3: terrible Stiggy son Field's character. It's nice. Sticks here, getay, guys.

2055
01:35:30,572 --> 01:35:32,492
Speaker 3: When you meet the right person people in the hall,

2056
01:35:32,572 --> 01:35:36,293
Speaker 3: you bond with them. You then get to sometimes do

2057
01:35:36,412 --> 01:35:38,812
Speaker 3: business with them. Thirty k can be the profit on

2058
01:35:38,853 --> 01:35:41,572
Speaker 3: a single deal. You only live once, and a young once.

2059
01:35:41,652 --> 01:35:44,173
Speaker 3: Don't let money or a small line from letting you

2060
01:35:44,293 --> 01:35:46,253
Speaker 3: live your best life. The halls were the best things

2061
01:35:46,333 --> 01:35:46,652
Speaker 3: over did.

2062
01:35:46,772 --> 01:35:49,012
Speaker 2: Don't let a small line stop you living the best

2063
01:35:49,053 --> 01:35:53,013
Speaker 2: Life's interesting thing there. Thanks for your text. Goal appreciate that.

2064
01:35:53,173 --> 01:35:55,772
Speaker 2: My mate skip Uni holes his parents bought him a

2065
01:35:55,812 --> 01:35:58,372
Speaker 2: two betty apartment across the road. Pretty nice too. He

2066
01:35:58,532 --> 01:36:00,412
Speaker 2: was still required to work and pay rent, but he

2067
01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:02,612
Speaker 2: was paying three and fifty per week. His neighbors were

2068
01:36:02,692 --> 01:36:06,732
Speaker 2: paying seven hundred dollars per week. Well, yeah, yeah, that's

2069
01:36:07,013 --> 01:36:09,213
Speaker 2: that's nice if your parents you are too bity across

2070
01:36:09,293 --> 01:36:09,973
Speaker 2: the road, but good for you.

2071
01:36:10,173 --> 01:36:12,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2072
01:36:12,333 --> 01:36:14,492
Speaker 3: number to call. After we play some headlines. We have

2073
01:36:14,532 --> 01:36:16,492
Speaker 3: a chat to Anna who wants to chat about her

2074
01:36:16,612 --> 01:36:19,452
Speaker 3: hall's experience. That's coming up next. It is twenty nine

2075
01:36:19,492 --> 01:36:19,972
Speaker 3: to four.

2076
01:36:22,093 --> 01:36:22,732
Speaker 2: Jews Talks.

2077
01:36:22,772 --> 01:36:26,372
Speaker 11: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

2078
01:36:26,452 --> 01:36:29,972
Speaker 11: with a blue bubble. Winston Peters is promising to campaign

2079
01:36:30,053 --> 01:36:34,052
Speaker 11: on repealing the Regulatory Standards bill his party helped vote

2080
01:36:34,093 --> 01:36:37,972
Speaker 11: in just one week ago. Wellington City councilors have voted

2081
01:36:38,013 --> 01:36:41,452
Speaker 11: to pause the Golden Mile project for an official review

2082
01:36:41,973 --> 01:36:46,733
Speaker 11: after being warned of large cost blowouts. Two separate investigations

2083
01:36:46,772 --> 01:36:50,572
Speaker 11: are underway into allegations of electoral fraud in Auckland's or

2084
01:36:50,732 --> 01:36:56,452
Speaker 11: Tara Papatui Duy local board elections. Hummas run health authorities

2085
01:36:56,572 --> 01:37:00,852
Speaker 11: in Gaza says Israel strikes have killed at least twenty

2086
01:37:00,973 --> 01:37:05,893
Speaker 11: five Palestinians. Israel, with no injuries suffered, claims its retaliation

2087
01:37:06,093 --> 01:37:10,692
Speaker 11: for Hamas firing on its troops. Former transport company boss

2088
01:37:10,772 --> 01:37:14,572
Speaker 11: a Sheikh Ali, whose unregistered runaway truck killed a road

2089
01:37:14,652 --> 01:37:18,173
Speaker 11: worker in twenty twenty four, has been jailed for three years.

2090
01:37:19,333 --> 01:37:22,412
Speaker 11: Residents near Blenham's with a street transfer station are being

2091
01:37:22,452 --> 01:37:25,852
Speaker 11: worn to avoid inhaling smoke from a fire at the site.

2092
01:37:26,893 --> 01:37:32,212
Speaker 11: Paris's Louver is fitting anti intrusion systems after inaudacious jewelry

2093
01:37:32,293 --> 01:37:35,972
Speaker 11: heist and will add one hundred new surveillance cameras over

2094
01:37:36,293 --> 01:37:40,612
Speaker 11: next year. We're mostly feeling great, but a new survey

2095
01:37:40,692 --> 01:37:44,852
Speaker 11: shows we're getting fatter, more distressed, and youth drinking is spiking.

2096
01:37:45,253 --> 01:37:47,932
Speaker 18: Read more at Enzied Herald Premium. I'm back to matt

2097
01:37:48,053 --> 01:37:48,972
Speaker 18: Ethan Tyler Adams.

2098
01:37:48,973 --> 01:37:51,732
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Lean. We're talking about university halls.

2099
01:37:51,812 --> 01:37:54,213
Speaker 3: There has been some complaints from some students about the

2100
01:37:54,293 --> 01:37:56,933
Speaker 3: cost they have into Bay thirty k a year and

2101
01:37:57,173 --> 01:37:58,692
Speaker 3: they say it's out of reach for some people. Is

2102
01:37:58,692 --> 01:38:00,293
Speaker 3: that really true? And is it still a ride a

2103
01:38:00,333 --> 01:38:01,612
Speaker 3: passage to go to the unihorse?

2104
01:38:01,732 --> 01:38:03,932
Speaker 2: So Joel has come back with the correction to his text.

2105
01:38:04,013 --> 01:38:07,053
Speaker 2: He got spellchecked from loan to line. So when I

2106
01:38:07,093 --> 01:38:10,572
Speaker 2: read it, don't let money or a small line stop

2107
01:38:10,652 --> 01:38:13,173
Speaker 2: you from living your best life? I mean loan not line.

2108
01:38:13,213 --> 01:38:15,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it could have gone either way. To the

2109
01:38:15,732 --> 01:38:16,452
Speaker 3: point was when you.

2110
01:38:16,492 --> 01:38:18,732
Speaker 2: Meet the right people in the hall, you know you

2111
01:38:18,812 --> 01:38:22,693
Speaker 2: could end up having you know, business relationships, professional relationships,

2112
01:38:22,812 --> 01:38:26,572
Speaker 2: and personal relationship with him forever. So so you know

2113
01:38:26,692 --> 01:38:29,692
Speaker 2: that what's money when you know what's what's there? What's

2114
01:38:29,732 --> 01:38:32,772
Speaker 2: that thirty thousand dollars loan when it's compared to that?

2115
01:38:33,253 --> 01:38:35,812
Speaker 3: Life is networking absolutely and that's where it starts. So

2116
01:38:35,893 --> 01:38:37,772
Speaker 3: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2117
01:38:37,812 --> 01:38:42,093
Speaker 3: to call. How you anna? Hey, Hi, nice to chat

2118
01:38:42,133 --> 01:38:45,173
Speaker 3: with you. So did you want to talk about your

2119
01:38:45,213 --> 01:38:46,652
Speaker 3: hall experiences.

2120
01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:48,093
Speaker 13: Or your Yeah?

2121
01:38:48,253 --> 01:38:50,652
Speaker 22: So my well a little bit of both actually. So

2122
01:38:50,772 --> 01:38:54,052
Speaker 22: my partner's son, he's going off to university fingers crossed

2123
01:38:55,532 --> 01:38:59,333
Speaker 22: next year and he's just been offered self catering halls.

2124
01:39:00,013 --> 01:39:02,093
Speaker 22: And my advice was, I think you should take it.

2125
01:39:02,173 --> 01:39:04,972
Speaker 22: I think it'd be really good, and you'd be going

2126
01:39:05,053 --> 01:39:08,892
Speaker 22: off to a different city. And I went to university

2127
01:39:08,933 --> 01:39:10,732
Speaker 22: in a different city, so I can only speak from

2128
01:39:10,772 --> 01:39:14,692
Speaker 22: my experience, but I felt that it was really good

2129
01:39:14,772 --> 01:39:18,053
Speaker 22: for me. I was away from the parents, away from

2130
01:39:18,093 --> 01:39:23,492
Speaker 22: a network, meeting new people from all over different parts

2131
01:39:23,532 --> 01:39:27,133
Speaker 22: of the country, and you kind of club together. You know,

2132
01:39:27,253 --> 01:39:30,173
Speaker 22: you cook together, so one person buys potatoes. My dad

2133
01:39:30,293 --> 01:39:33,093
Speaker 22: used to go to the farm and get sacks of

2134
01:39:33,253 --> 01:39:36,132
Speaker 22: carrots and onions and potatoes, and it'd all cook together

2135
01:39:36,973 --> 01:39:39,812
Speaker 22: and different things like that. Yes, you'd go out drinking together,

2136
01:39:40,732 --> 01:39:43,013
Speaker 22: but you kind of find your people. There'll always be

2137
01:39:43,053 --> 01:39:45,293
Speaker 22: people you get on well with the people that you don't.

2138
01:39:46,173 --> 01:39:48,772
Speaker 22: But it was just that experience for me of probably

2139
01:39:48,812 --> 01:39:51,812
Speaker 22: for the first time in my taking the naive blinkers

2140
01:39:51,853 --> 01:39:53,452
Speaker 22: off of Okay, what do I want to be and

2141
01:39:53,772 --> 01:39:56,333
Speaker 22: the person I want to be, and going out into

2142
01:39:56,412 --> 01:39:59,492
Speaker 22: the world and seeing things, and I think it's a

2143
01:39:59,492 --> 01:40:03,293
Speaker 22: good experience. It's not for everyone, but for me. My

2144
01:40:03,452 --> 01:40:05,732
Speaker 22: sister also gave me the advice that you need to

2145
01:40:05,812 --> 01:40:08,892
Speaker 22: be within a distance that your parents can from visit,

2146
01:40:09,333 --> 01:40:12,213
Speaker 22: but also leave on the same day, and not to

2147
01:40:12,253 --> 01:40:14,412
Speaker 22: stay over. And that was the advice my sister gave

2148
01:40:14,452 --> 01:40:15,252
Speaker 22: you were picking.

2149
01:40:15,053 --> 01:40:17,532
Speaker 2: A university, So just drop off the carrots and onions

2150
01:40:17,572 --> 01:40:21,333
Speaker 2: and get out there. That kind of yeah, yeah, and

2151
01:40:21,452 --> 01:40:24,133
Speaker 2: so yeah, have you stayed in touch with the people

2152
01:40:24,253 --> 01:40:26,492
Speaker 2: that you met in the in the in the hall

2153
01:40:26,532 --> 01:40:28,452
Speaker 2: of residence in Yeah?

2154
01:40:28,612 --> 01:40:31,572
Speaker 22: Ironically I moved to New Zealand just over ten years

2155
01:40:31,572 --> 01:40:35,012
Speaker 22: ago and my friend who I not only met through

2156
01:40:35,053 --> 01:40:37,293
Speaker 22: halls of residents but also lived with for a year,

2157
01:40:38,213 --> 01:40:40,333
Speaker 22: she went off back and did a work placement for

2158
01:40:40,372 --> 01:40:44,333
Speaker 22: a year before finishing her degree. She's now just moved

2159
01:40:44,372 --> 01:40:46,532
Speaker 22: over to New Zealand and so we're now catching up

2160
01:40:46,612 --> 01:40:48,333
Speaker 22: and carrying on with our connection.

2161
01:40:49,372 --> 01:40:52,812
Speaker 2: Oh that's so good, isn't it? And so what what

2162
01:40:52,893 --> 01:40:56,093
Speaker 2: do you think about going to a hall the and

2163
01:40:56,173 --> 01:40:57,652
Speaker 2: the city that you're in. You know, you talk about

2164
01:40:57,692 --> 01:41:00,293
Speaker 2: your parents being far enough way that they can't you

2165
01:41:00,372 --> 01:41:03,133
Speaker 2: know that they have to go wagging. But what what

2166
01:41:03,333 --> 01:41:07,933
Speaker 2: what do you think about that line? As rephrase the

2167
01:41:08,013 --> 01:41:11,013
Speaker 2: question as the friends you meet and the experience you

2168
01:41:11,213 --> 01:41:15,692
Speaker 2: have in a hall good enough that you should forego

2169
01:41:15,933 --> 01:41:20,173
Speaker 2: the free accommodation at your parents' house to go to

2170
01:41:20,213 --> 01:41:21,253
Speaker 2: a hall in the city that.

2171
01:41:21,333 --> 01:41:21,973
Speaker 1: You live in.

2172
01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:28,213
Speaker 22: Probably my advice that I've given is at least of

2173
01:41:28,293 --> 01:41:30,173
Speaker 22: the first year maybe without it, and just go and

2174
01:41:30,293 --> 01:41:32,772
Speaker 22: experience it, and then you can always go home and

2175
01:41:32,893 --> 01:41:36,013
Speaker 22: save money for however many years after that. Just from

2176
01:41:36,053 --> 01:41:38,093
Speaker 22: my experience and I think that it was good, but

2177
01:41:38,572 --> 01:41:41,692
Speaker 22: not everyone can be in that position. My UNI course,

2178
01:41:41,772 --> 01:41:44,572
Speaker 22: we were quite a small cohort, so there was quite

2179
01:41:44,572 --> 01:41:47,492
Speaker 22: a few that had moved because there was only four

2180
01:41:47,652 --> 01:41:50,893
Speaker 22: universities that did our course. It was quite specialist, and

2181
01:41:51,053 --> 01:41:53,293
Speaker 22: so we had actually quite a mix of people that

2182
01:41:53,452 --> 01:41:56,892
Speaker 22: had moved. But then there was quite a large probably

2183
01:41:56,973 --> 01:42:00,013
Speaker 22: fifty to fifty percent, where the others were living at

2184
01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:02,932
Speaker 22: home or they'd got young children themselves and were coming

2185
01:42:02,973 --> 01:42:05,973
Speaker 22: on to the course. So it was very different. But

2186
01:42:06,053 --> 01:42:08,093
Speaker 22: probably the people that lived at unied to have a

2187
01:42:08,133 --> 01:42:11,372
Speaker 22: dif an experience. But actually I'm still in touch with

2188
01:42:11,492 --> 01:42:14,333
Speaker 22: even the ones that didn't stay, but that might be

2189
01:42:14,452 --> 01:42:17,452
Speaker 22: down to the smaller cohort stize rather than anything else.

2190
01:42:17,572 --> 01:42:20,333
Speaker 22: But you know, they still came out, We still went

2191
01:42:20,412 --> 01:42:22,572
Speaker 22: out for drinks, We went out for meals. We stayed

2192
01:42:22,612 --> 01:42:25,452
Speaker 22: in church. We've all gone off into very stimilar careers,

2193
01:42:25,492 --> 01:42:29,213
Speaker 22: so we've stayed in touch that way. So it depends.

2194
01:42:29,253 --> 01:42:31,652
Speaker 22: Every situation is different and you do what's best for you.

2195
01:42:32,452 --> 01:42:34,412
Speaker 2: Is it a bit different in the in the UK?

2196
01:42:34,652 --> 01:42:36,532
Speaker 2: How it works? I was up in Oxford recently and

2197
01:42:36,652 --> 01:42:42,372
Speaker 2: looking at you know, the ancient colleges and such, and

2198
01:42:43,452 --> 01:42:44,572
Speaker 2: it seemed to me I was trying to get my

2199
01:42:44,612 --> 01:42:47,213
Speaker 2: head around at Oxford University sort of only seems to

2200
01:42:47,253 --> 01:42:51,372
Speaker 2: exist for the exams and the accommodation where you stay.

2201
01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:56,013
Speaker 2: Like what these Christ's I think? And there I was

2202
01:42:56,053 --> 01:42:58,013
Speaker 2: looking around them. It's basically on the Harry Potter tour,

2203
01:42:58,612 --> 01:43:03,253
Speaker 2: and it seemed to me My understanding was that they

2204
01:43:03,293 --> 01:43:07,692
Speaker 2: are more more encompassing. So where you get into it

2205
01:43:07,812 --> 01:43:10,692
Speaker 2: was almost like the university that you're going to. Does

2206
01:43:10,732 --> 01:43:12,653
Speaker 2: that make sense for am I misunderstanding?

2207
01:43:13,933 --> 01:43:13,973
Speaker 9: No?

2208
01:43:14,173 --> 01:43:16,852
Speaker 22: I think I get what you mean. So where you

2209
01:43:16,973 --> 01:43:19,093
Speaker 22: have almost like it's almost like a little little town,

2210
01:43:19,372 --> 01:43:21,772
Speaker 22: so your halls of residents, where you is, where you

2211
01:43:21,853 --> 01:43:25,372
Speaker 22: are is like your little village. And so where I

2212
01:43:25,612 --> 01:43:28,132
Speaker 22: went there was a mixture. We didn't really have catered

2213
01:43:28,253 --> 01:43:30,532
Speaker 22: so much brain. I'm going back more years than I'd

2214
01:43:30,572 --> 01:43:34,012
Speaker 22: care to admit on radio. But we we had mainly

2215
01:43:34,093 --> 01:43:37,053
Speaker 22: self catering. But my halls were considered flash at the

2216
01:43:37,093 --> 01:43:39,293
Speaker 22: time because some people have the option of having a

2217
01:43:39,333 --> 01:43:43,612
Speaker 22: double bed in the room a single bed. Yeah, but yeah,

2218
01:43:43,812 --> 01:43:46,333
Speaker 22: And then then it came down to affordability of whether

2219
01:43:46,372 --> 01:43:49,013
Speaker 22: you had your own bathroom or whether you had shared bathroom.

2220
01:43:49,772 --> 01:43:52,412
Speaker 22: But then there was facilities on site. There were there

2221
01:43:52,452 --> 01:43:55,732
Speaker 22: were restaurants and different things that were nearby. You'd have

2222
01:43:55,973 --> 01:43:59,093
Speaker 22: like your halls, you'd have like discount bars and things

2223
01:43:59,213 --> 01:44:02,012
Speaker 22: like that, so you kind of stayed within your area.

2224
01:44:02,133 --> 01:44:04,052
Speaker 22: So there were all the halls of residents in different

2225
01:44:04,133 --> 01:44:08,012
Speaker 22: places where I wouldn't really necessarily know the other people

2226
01:44:08,053 --> 01:44:10,612
Speaker 22: in those or the halls of resident areas because they

2227
01:44:10,652 --> 01:44:14,612
Speaker 22: were for different compasses or different different locations. So you

2228
01:44:14,732 --> 01:44:16,652
Speaker 22: kind of stay within the area that you are unless

2229
01:44:16,652 --> 01:44:19,013
Speaker 22: you know somebody that might be on your course in

2230
01:44:19,093 --> 01:44:20,532
Speaker 22: a different hall for whatever reason.

2231
01:44:21,053 --> 01:44:23,893
Speaker 2: Was it a hogwalks type situation with moving steercases and

2232
01:44:23,973 --> 01:44:25,452
Speaker 2: paintings that talk to you and such.

2233
01:44:25,532 --> 01:44:28,372
Speaker 22: And I can't say that I was clever enough to

2234
01:44:28,412 --> 01:44:31,173
Speaker 22: get into an Oxford University, but I went into a

2235
01:44:31,253 --> 01:44:33,653
Speaker 22: red brick what would be considered a red brick university.

2236
01:44:34,093 --> 01:44:38,452
Speaker 2: But yeah, what does red brick mean as opposed to.

2237
01:44:40,213 --> 01:44:42,452
Speaker 22: So you have So it's a term that you have

2238
01:44:42,612 --> 01:44:45,892
Speaker 22: like Oxford Big would be a red brick but very traditional,

2239
01:44:45,973 --> 01:44:49,053
Speaker 22: and Cardiff University would be red brick. But then you've

2240
01:44:49,093 --> 01:44:51,852
Speaker 22: got like the metropolitans that are maybe more career focused

2241
01:44:51,973 --> 01:44:56,093
Speaker 22: than would be considered not red brick ones. Yeah, but

2242
01:44:56,173 --> 01:44:59,093
Speaker 22: they're still you know, it's more vocational, kind of like

2243
01:44:59,213 --> 01:45:01,133
Speaker 22: doing an apprentice of trades in a way.

2244
01:45:02,333 --> 01:45:02,532
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2245
01:45:02,933 --> 01:45:05,253
Speaker 3: So I mean to me, the university hall and I

2246
01:45:05,293 --> 01:45:08,053
Speaker 3: don't know if you agree, it's like a nice entry

2247
01:45:08,133 --> 01:45:10,652
Speaker 3: and to real life. You've got a lot more freedom,

2248
01:45:10,692 --> 01:45:13,293
Speaker 3: but you've still got some security there around meals and

2249
01:45:14,133 --> 01:45:15,973
Speaker 3: pastoral care and all that sort of thing. I mean,

2250
01:45:16,133 --> 01:45:19,173
Speaker 3: is there how you see it, we entry into real

2251
01:45:19,213 --> 01:45:21,452
Speaker 3: life before you start fledding and getting into the real world.

2252
01:45:22,572 --> 01:45:25,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think so. So in the UK it kind

2253
01:45:25,133 --> 01:45:26,612
Speaker 22: of dealt with more that you'd go and you'd flat

2254
01:45:26,692 --> 01:45:29,213
Speaker 22: for your first year, and then after that you wouldn't

2255
01:45:29,213 --> 01:45:31,133
Speaker 22: go into halls. You go and you flat with people,

2256
01:45:31,253 --> 01:45:33,732
Speaker 22: or if you decided that wasn't for you, you'd go

2257
01:45:33,893 --> 01:45:36,812
Speaker 22: into a single bed flat and just be by yourself.

2258
01:45:37,732 --> 01:45:40,613
Speaker 22: You generally wouldn't do it after that. That's my experience

2259
01:45:40,692 --> 01:45:43,612
Speaker 22: of it anyway. But yeah, for me, I think it

2260
01:45:43,732 --> 01:45:45,932
Speaker 22: was good. It got me out there, got me meeting

2261
01:45:46,053 --> 01:45:48,812
Speaker 22: people from different walks of life. And actually, if I

2262
01:45:49,053 --> 01:45:51,812
Speaker 22: wanted to, potentially I could have commuted, it would have

2263
01:45:51,853 --> 01:45:53,772
Speaker 22: been a long commute and I probably would have had

2264
01:45:53,812 --> 01:45:57,973
Speaker 22: to have couch stayed on people's stuff. But yeah, it

2265
01:45:58,093 --> 01:46:00,812
Speaker 22: was good. But I also I didn't want to have

2266
01:46:00,933 --> 01:46:02,692
Speaker 22: to fund the whole thing myself, so I went and

2267
01:46:02,812 --> 01:46:05,053
Speaker 22: got when I did work experience, and then I was

2268
01:46:05,093 --> 01:46:08,253
Speaker 22: quite lucky that that work experience day then kind of

2269
01:46:09,013 --> 01:46:11,173
Speaker 22: not sponsored me per se, but they helped me then

2270
01:46:11,213 --> 01:46:14,612
Speaker 22: through university by employing me in the As soon as

2271
01:46:14,612 --> 01:46:17,133
Speaker 22: I finished university, I went back there and worked, So

2272
01:46:17,253 --> 01:46:19,652
Speaker 22: that was quite lucky. And I've got work experience through

2273
01:46:19,692 --> 01:46:20,572
Speaker 22: all that time as well.

2274
01:46:20,812 --> 01:46:22,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, thank you so much for you call Anna.

2275
01:46:22,893 --> 01:46:24,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, great to chat with you. Thank you very much.

2276
01:46:25,053 --> 01:46:27,652
Speaker 3: A couple of teachs coming through on nine two nine two.

2277
01:46:29,412 --> 01:46:31,333
Speaker 2: I was not in halls of residence, but I got

2278
01:46:31,372 --> 01:46:33,412
Speaker 2: a girlfriend in the halls of redients early on, so

2279
01:46:33,532 --> 01:46:35,972
Speaker 2: living at home, paying not much with all the privileges

2280
01:46:36,013 --> 01:46:41,812
Speaker 2: of spending nights in the halls and making oh making

2281
01:46:41,893 --> 01:46:43,852
Speaker 2: lifelong friends as well. I thought that was going to

2282
01:46:43,893 --> 01:46:48,092
Speaker 2: be making love. Yeah, yeah, that was a fraudian slip.

2283
01:46:48,173 --> 01:46:50,892
Speaker 2: I was, even though it clearly says and making lifelong

2284
01:46:50,973 --> 01:46:53,213
Speaker 2: friends as well. I was about to read that as

2285
01:46:53,293 --> 01:46:54,532
Speaker 2: making love all night long.

2286
01:46:54,652 --> 01:46:56,412
Speaker 3: I think that was implied with the spending nights. But

2287
01:46:56,492 --> 01:46:58,972
Speaker 3: I saw where your brain was going. Mate, Well played

2288
01:46:58,973 --> 01:47:01,852
Speaker 3: to that teaster, by the way, that's a good strategy, right.

2289
01:47:01,933 --> 01:47:04,812
Speaker 3: It is sixteen to four back very shortly. We have

2290
01:47:04,853 --> 01:47:07,173
Speaker 3: a chat to Shelley and she wants to talk about

2291
01:47:07,173 --> 01:47:10,652
Speaker 3: her experience and kids as well. That's coming up a

2292
01:47:10,772 --> 01:47:13,652
Speaker 3: fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

2293
01:47:13,692 --> 01:47:17,612
Speaker 3: Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty eight

2294
01:47:17,893 --> 01:47:21,173
Speaker 3: US talks'd be thirteen to four. We're talking about university halls.

2295
01:47:21,333 --> 01:47:22,852
Speaker 3: Is it's still worth it? Is it's still a right

2296
01:47:22,973 --> 01:47:23,572
Speaker 3: of passage?

2297
01:47:23,572 --> 01:47:23,692
Speaker 9: Oh?

2298
01:47:23,732 --> 01:47:26,333
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

2299
01:47:27,532 --> 01:47:31,572
Speaker 3: A few teas coming through on nine two ninety two Lowell.

2300
01:47:31,772 --> 01:47:34,772
Speaker 2: People so quick to judge when they see a positive

2301
01:47:34,893 --> 01:47:36,652
Speaker 2: You're in now, I was so poor at Uni. My

2302
01:47:36,732 --> 01:47:39,652
Speaker 2: flat had so many holes we used to out slug

2303
01:47:39,732 --> 01:47:42,133
Speaker 2: bait on the floor, put out slug bait on the floor,

2304
01:47:42,213 --> 01:47:44,253
Speaker 2: and couldn't go to the kitchen at night without standing

2305
01:47:44,293 --> 01:47:46,932
Speaker 2: on slugs. I caught a mouse in my toaster, didn't

2306
01:47:46,973 --> 01:47:49,892
Speaker 2: realize and still tried to scrape off the black toast

2307
01:47:49,933 --> 01:47:52,333
Speaker 2: as I had no other food. Thankfully a friend stopped

2308
01:47:52,372 --> 01:47:56,253
Speaker 2: me as we found the mouse later had malfunctioned the toaster.

2309
01:47:56,652 --> 01:48:00,892
Speaker 2: Our lights constantly shortened with ants. My parents wouldn't come

2310
01:48:00,973 --> 01:48:03,133
Speaker 2: in for a food or drink as it was so bad.

2311
01:48:03,492 --> 01:48:07,532
Speaker 2: But now people look and judge Lowell. Yeah, yeah, times,

2312
01:48:07,772 --> 01:48:10,973
Speaker 2: my god, I had some disgusting flats. I haven't had

2313
01:48:11,053 --> 01:48:14,013
Speaker 2: cockroaches in the timer and the clock. It was just

2314
01:48:14,093 --> 01:48:17,053
Speaker 2: we just accepted there were cockroaches there. And in one

2315
01:48:17,093 --> 01:48:18,972
Speaker 2: of my flats there was just such a big hole

2316
01:48:19,013 --> 01:48:20,532
Speaker 2: in the wall that I'd be able to when I

2317
01:48:20,572 --> 01:48:22,133
Speaker 2: wanted to hang out with my mate Andrew, I just

2318
01:48:22,173 --> 01:48:24,892
Speaker 2: reach in and grab his leg and pull him out

2319
01:48:24,933 --> 01:48:26,692
Speaker 2: of his room into the hallway into the steeler.

2320
01:48:26,812 --> 01:48:29,452
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good stuff. Yeah, Shelley, how.

2321
01:48:29,372 --> 01:48:29,612
Speaker 1: Are you.

2322
01:48:31,173 --> 01:48:31,293
Speaker 8: Hi?

2323
01:48:31,532 --> 01:48:36,213
Speaker 23: Good saying I just wanted to share my experiences. I

2324
01:48:36,973 --> 01:48:40,692
Speaker 23: went into the apostles when I went to university, and

2325
01:48:40,772 --> 01:48:44,093
Speaker 23: I thought I was fantastic being away from home for

2326
01:48:44,173 --> 01:48:47,253
Speaker 23: the first time met lots of people, didn't have to

2327
01:48:47,293 --> 01:48:50,732
Speaker 23: worry about bills and things. And my student mined covered

2328
01:48:50,853 --> 01:48:57,652
Speaker 23: the whole accommodation. So when my oldest son was due

2329
01:48:57,652 --> 01:49:02,053
Speaker 23: to our university, I strongly encouraged him to go in

2330
01:49:02,173 --> 01:49:02,853
Speaker 23: the halls.

2331
01:49:03,333 --> 01:49:03,892
Speaker 13: Which he did.

2332
01:49:04,013 --> 01:49:09,532
Speaker 23: But by the time he into university, the accommodation was

2333
01:49:10,293 --> 01:49:13,253
Speaker 23: what you were discussing that there was a lag of

2334
01:49:14,173 --> 01:49:16,452
Speaker 23: a hundred or a couple of hundred dollars a week

2335
01:49:17,333 --> 01:49:18,213
Speaker 23: or a fortnite that.

2336
01:49:18,812 --> 01:49:19,772
Speaker 5: He had to pick up.

2337
01:49:21,013 --> 01:49:26,333
Speaker 23: That We helped him a bit, and he had also

2338
01:49:26,492 --> 01:49:28,812
Speaker 23: worked and sold his car and things before he went

2339
01:49:28,853 --> 01:49:29,693
Speaker 23: down to university.

2340
01:49:30,973 --> 01:49:31,692
Speaker 5: Now he's got.

2341
01:49:31,772 --> 01:49:34,812
Speaker 23: Another son heading off the university and he is a

2342
01:49:34,853 --> 01:49:40,333
Speaker 23: bit more quite and he didn't want to have the

2343
01:49:40,452 --> 01:49:43,973
Speaker 23: student loan class have to spend all the savings. Uh

2344
01:49:44,053 --> 01:49:49,333
Speaker 23: So he and four other friends have already helped themselves

2345
01:49:49,452 --> 01:49:53,573
Speaker 23: up with the flat and they're going to be spending

2346
01:49:54,372 --> 01:49:56,893
Speaker 23: I think it's two hundred dollars a week each on

2347
01:49:57,093 --> 01:50:03,293
Speaker 23: rent and they reckon that the rest el trustee Wi

2348
01:50:03,412 --> 01:50:07,812
Speaker 23: fi All that sort of thing. Food will easily become

2349
01:50:07,973 --> 01:50:10,173
Speaker 23: them the risk that student loan.

2350
01:50:10,133 --> 01:50:13,852
Speaker 3: Will Yeah, and so that first year he's going, he's

2351
01:50:13,893 --> 01:50:16,333
Speaker 3: going flatting with first year first year. How do you

2352
01:50:16,372 --> 01:50:17,372
Speaker 3: feel about that as a mum?

2353
01:50:18,732 --> 01:50:23,012
Speaker 23: Oh, he's pretty responsible. I don't think in the flat

2354
01:50:23,253 --> 01:50:26,572
Speaker 23: is to get up to any more less must just

2355
01:50:26,812 --> 01:50:33,052
Speaker 23: than he would in the hostel and ventures myself pretty

2356
01:50:33,293 --> 01:50:34,173
Speaker 23: can be pretty loose.

2357
01:50:34,893 --> 01:50:37,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but he is.

2358
01:50:37,612 --> 01:50:40,812
Speaker 23: He's pretty responsible because anyway, if he's the one that

2359
01:50:40,933 --> 01:50:44,812
Speaker 23: will cook meals, has fun not around your cook meals

2360
01:50:44,853 --> 01:50:48,333
Speaker 23: for other people. So yeah, he's probably going to be

2361
01:50:48,492 --> 01:50:49,293
Speaker 23: the sat mum.

2362
01:50:49,412 --> 01:50:51,093
Speaker 5: I'd say you.

2363
01:50:51,133 --> 01:50:55,052
Speaker 3: Got to have one of those, Shelley. Absolutely. Yeah, great

2364
01:50:55,093 --> 01:50:57,732
Speaker 3: to chat with you, Thank you very much. We'll get

2365
01:50:57,772 --> 01:50:59,652
Speaker 3: a few texts in if we're going to play some messages.

2366
01:50:59,933 --> 01:51:01,013
Speaker 3: You raise your children to.

2367
01:51:01,093 --> 01:51:04,133
Speaker 2: Leave home, Yes, go to union in another city, stay

2368
01:51:04,173 --> 01:51:06,572
Speaker 2: in halls and meet new people and have fun. Lifers

2369
01:51:06,612 --> 01:51:07,133
Speaker 2: for the living.

2370
01:51:07,333 --> 01:51:07,532
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2371
01:51:07,973 --> 01:51:08,173
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2372
01:51:08,812 --> 01:51:11,253
Speaker 2: This person says, Hey, here's an idea for you muppets.

2373
01:51:11,293 --> 01:51:13,612
Speaker 2: Get people to spend forty k plus on a degree

2374
01:51:13,692 --> 01:51:16,253
Speaker 2: they can't use, get a trade and a life your dweebs.

2375
01:51:16,333 --> 01:51:18,732
Speaker 3: Thanks Pete, Thank you, Pete. I haven't heard Dweeds for

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Speaker 3: a week while and that made me laugh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it certainly is a good option to

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Speaker 2: not go into debt is to skip the halls and

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Speaker 2: skip the university and get into a trade and get

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Speaker 2: an apprenticeship going absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yep, there's a fair path, right. We'll play some messages

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Speaker 3: and come back very shortly. It is eight minutes to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons used TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks at B five minutes to four.

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Speaker 2: There is a large number that didn't enjoy halls, my

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Speaker 2: daughter being one due to COVID, stuck in rooms, lessons

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Speaker 2: on computers, very little social content and at the end

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Speaker 2: of the country from the family. That's from Dave. Yeah, boy.

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Speaker 2: The response to COVID really took a lot away from

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Speaker 2: our young people, Definitely people in their first university. They

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Speaker 2: so much got taken away, didn't it by the mental

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Speaker 2: response to COVID. Hey, thank you so much for listening everyone,

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Speaker 2: love the chats as always today It's been a great

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Speaker 2: old of time. What a what a show. The podcast

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Speaker 2: will be up very soon up next, the great and

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Speaker 2: powerful Heather Boot for they Ellen is on. I'm going

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Speaker 2: I tell you what she did a full from Metallica.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure she'll tell you about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look going to hear that anyway, Tyler, why would

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Speaker 3: I be playing this song? What a tune from Metallica?

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Speaker 3: Master a Puppets? Because you and thousands of other New Zealanders,

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Speaker 3: those from overseas Ortlanders sound like you had an amazing

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Speaker 3: Time'll tell a concert next level.

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Speaker 2: It was just such a great show. So I felt

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Speaker 2: so lucky to be there, and what a great crowd.

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Speaker 2: Eden Park looked amazing, and.

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Speaker 3: What a fantastic band is. More of that fantastic stuff all.

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Speaker 2: Right until tomorrow afternoon. You've seen busy, so we'll let

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Speaker 2: you go. Give them a taste a key from.

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Speaker 3: Tyler and I crank you.

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Speaker 9: Shh.

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Speaker 1: For more from Used Talks at b listen live on

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Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever

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