1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Magdal Milwaukee of Courses. This afternoon, out time, Donald J. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Trump accepts the Republican Party's nomination for the presidency and 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: completes a week that has gone down in the history books. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: If it's in chief correspondent Simon Max is back with 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: the Simon very good morning to. 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: You, Good morning to you, mate, all. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Politics, society. I've enjoyed it. It fires them up if 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: you look at it as an event to feed the base. 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: I think they've done a pretty good job this week, 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: haven't they. 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: I think they've done an extraordinary job from their perspective, 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: and an extraordinary job generally by the standards of these conventions. 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: And what is so marked and interesting about it is 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: that they have exercised an enormous degree of discipline. You know, 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: back in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, discipline was not 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: a hallmark of Donald Trump's previous campaigns. This convention, you 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: can set your watch by it. I mean, they literally 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: have stuck to the timings, minute by minute from the 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: moment the convention has begun. And I think that what 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: they have very daringly and pugnaciously done is suggest to 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: the American voter that it's time for Americans to rethink 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: their definition of the Republican Party. I mean, they have 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: waded into waters that the Democrats traditionally sail through unchallenged. 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: So when you're hearing from leaders of trade unions who 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: say there's nothing incompatible about organized labor working with a 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: second Trump administration, when you hear the vice presidential nominee 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: jd Vance talking about a Trump administration absolutely championing the 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: rights and salaries of American workers and really rubbishing at 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: one point, you know, the Chamber of Commerce and big 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: corporate behemoths. You know, that is a very different Republican 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: Party that they are presenting to voters. I think it's 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: perfectly justified to ask if they're really serious about the 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: kind of shift that they are purporting to be proposing. 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: One of the once again taking all politics aside. If 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: you look at what has the Trump story. And I 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: was watching Lara Trump this week, and I watched Donald Junior, 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: then I watched Kay Trump and all the Trumps. You know, 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: if you look at what Trump has done to the 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Republican Party and its manifestation this week, it really is 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: an astonishing thing, isn't it. 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it is absolutely an astonishing situation in which they 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: find themselves. And I think that everything goes back to 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: those iconic images of Donald Trump surviving that assassination attempt 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: last Saturday, which was a total page turn before this 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: convention began. And I think it's important to underscore that 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, who has appeared at this convention every single night, 47 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: he's not spoken and he won't be doing that for 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: another six and a half hours or so. But he 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: sat there listening to the speeches, and it will be 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: very interesting to see what kind of tone he strikes tonight, 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: because at least watching him, he looks like changed man, 52 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: and the people around him say, he is a changed man. Now. 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: You know, when he speaks tonight, we think he's going 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: to preach a message of national unity and care for 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: an end to political violence. Again, how long does that last? 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 2: Is this a real sea change in Donald Trump's behavior? 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: Or is this going to be a one night wonder 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: in rhetorical terms? And then he returns to type, But 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: certainly that attempted assassination changed everything here. 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: While I've got you word as Biden's gone this weeknd, 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: what are you hearing? 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about this weekend? There are all sorts 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: of things taking place behind the scenes, and many of 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: them are playing out publicly. And what you've clearly got 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: now are people like Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker of 66 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: the House of Representatives, President Barack Obama, former President of 67 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: the United States, all trying to convey first privately and 68 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: now publicly to Joe Biden that the game is up. 69 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: So there are some report here that Joe Biden is 70 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: now suddenly more receptive to the idea that it's time 71 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: for him to move on and plot a different course. 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: But equally there are other reports that are clearly coming 73 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: from people in the Biden camp who say no, no, no, no. 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: He is absolutely pushing back. Still, he has the support 75 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: of the delegates who will be participating in the convention. 76 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: He won millions of votes all over the country in 77 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: isolation suffering from COVID nineteen. It is said that he 78 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: is once again pushing back against these efforts to oust him. 79 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: I think the notion that suddenly this weekend the House 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: of Cards is going to collapse is probably premature, because 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: even when the House of Cards does collapse, there's got 82 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: to be a plan. You can't just say, Okay, I'm 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, I'm dropping out of the race. What's the plan? 84 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: Who are you going to endorse? Who are you going 85 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: to tell your delegates to support? So I suspect it 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: might take a few days longer than this weekend. 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: All right, good, good, and so any idea with a 88 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Milania turns up. She's the missing piece visually this week. 89 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: Well, there are two missing pieces. Malania definitely will be 90 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: here tonight that we know. She's not going to be speaking, 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: but we expect that she will be sitting in the 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: family's viewing stand and watching her husband and presumably joining 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: him on stage at the end of the speech. There's 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: another missing piece here, tantalizingly, and it's Ivanka Trump and 95 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: her husband Jared Kushner. They have not been here at all, 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: and I think we're going to be interested to see 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: if they show up for this speech tonight. 98 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Simon, always good to see you, and we 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: may talk next week. Simon Mark's president and the chief 100 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: correspondent of Feature Story News. If in the state, for 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news Talks. 102 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.