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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duper Cy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else.

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Speaker 2: News Talks Heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show coming out today. Apostle Bishop Brian

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Speaker 4: reckons he's going to cross that bridge anyway. Tomorrow's the

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Speaker 4: police and what they're going to do about it. Alfter five,

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Speaker 4: we've finally said no to Trump's Board of Peace. We'll

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Speaker 4: have a chat to an international relations expert on why

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Speaker 4: we're finally said no now and dung Beetles. You got

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Speaker 4: to hear this one.

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Speaker 2: What Heather duper Cy Ellen.

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Speaker 4: I reckon that you would struggle to find an Aucklander,

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Speaker 4: maybe even in New Zealander, outside of, of course, of

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Speaker 4: Bishop Brian and his lot, who doesn't back the police

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Speaker 4: in they're called to say no to the protest march

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Speaker 4: across the Harbor Bridge. It's planned for tomorrow. I reckon

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Speaker 4: most of us would say, good call kill the thing off.

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Speaker 4: It is an incredibly busy transport link in Auckland. It

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Speaker 4: is way too disruptive for protesters to use it to

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Speaker 4: make their point. There are countless other roads that they

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Speaker 4: Saturday said that though the police may want to spend

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Speaker 4: a bit of time thinking about how smart it is

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Speaker 4: for them to keep picking and choosing like they do,

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Speaker 4: when the rules apply and who the rules apply to,

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Speaker 4: because there is a legitimate question here to ask about

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Speaker 4: but they were perfectly happy to let the anti Treaty

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Speaker 4: let the pro Palestine protest march walk across as well.

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Speaker 4: You would be forgiven for reaching the conclusion that it

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Speaker 4: often comes down to the worthiness of the cause, as

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Speaker 4: in Anti Treaty Principles Bill Worthy, pro Palestine worthy, Bishop

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Speaker 4: Brian not worthy. Just like the police were cool with

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Speaker 4: the Black Lives Matter protest is getting together under COVID

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Speaker 4: restrictions because worthy, but they were not cool with Brian

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Speaker 4: Toarmicky and his lot doing the same because not worthy. Now,

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Speaker 4: lot of sympathy for Brian Tarmicky because maybe you don't

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Speaker 4: particularly like what Brian Tomicky is about. But what I

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Speaker 4: As far as I'm concerned, no one should ever have

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Speaker 4: the police thought the anti Treaty Principal's Bill protest was worthy,

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Speaker 4: and even if the police thought the pro Palestine protest

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Speaker 4: okay for anyone. And frankly, it is not okay for

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Speaker 4: anyone because it is too disruptive, other than perhaps with

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Speaker 4: the exception of the marathon. So good call from the police. Finally,

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Speaker 4: but how about we make that rule for everyone, not

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Speaker 4: just Bishop Brian heather Dole see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Two is the text standard texts.

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Speaker 4: Fees apply and as I say, the police are with

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Speaker 4: us after five o'clock. Now to Westport. According to Westport Residence,

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Speaker 4: the AA insurance announcement yesterday is not the start of

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Speaker 4: their troubles at all. They have been having trouble with

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Speaker 4: insurance for ages even before AA decided to stop issuing

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Speaker 4: new cover. Glennis Alli is a lifelong Westport resident and

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Speaker 4: a local realist at Agent Hi Glennis Hi. Glennis listen,

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Speaker 4: So it's not as bad as we thought, right, because

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Speaker 4: it's not as if you're being abandoned altogether. You do

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Speaker 4: still have the option of taking out insurance apparently with FMG.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Most of my people have either got insurance with FMG

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Speaker 5: haven't had issues. Even if a company has a policy

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Speaker 5: doesn't guarantee that they will continue that policy on AA

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Speaker 5: have given that insurance, that assurance that if they currently

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Speaker 5: insure the property, they will continue to ensure it if

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Speaker 5: it sells. We don't have that insurance, that assurance from

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Speaker 5: other people. But FMG has stepped into our market big time,

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Speaker 5: and we've also got a new brokerage in town called Haslots.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now, what is it that FMG does differently to

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Speaker 4: the other big guys. Is it looking rather than just

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Speaker 4: looking at Westport as a whole, it actually looks at

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Speaker 6: Correct.

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Speaker 5: So currently, if you like, I've just had this with

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Speaker 5: won't do it. And that was by multiple insurance companies.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So FMG, though, if FMG is looking at your

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Speaker 4: individual property, there must in Westport b properties that still

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Speaker 5: Look, the reality is that we had a flood in

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Speaker 5: in terms of you're talking about at risk, a lot

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Speaker 5: of the properties that were damaged, some of them were

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Speaker 5: damaged by vehicles driving through. Wasn't necessarily yes, that water

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Speaker 5: but I wouldn't say that a lot of them are

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was going to say, Glennis. What

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Speaker 4: I was meaning is any town, pick a town in

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Speaker 4: that's just asking for trouble. So but of course those

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Speaker 4: So in that postcode there must be some properties that

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Speaker 4: presumably FMG won't touch. And then what happens to those

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Speaker 5: Well, they either take the risk or they walk away

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Speaker 4: Are there people in that in that position?

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Speaker 3: Yet?

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard of anyone who is not ensuring their

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Speaker 5: not saying they're not out there, but I personally have

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Speaker 4: Now, Glenna's the impression I'm getting from something you said

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Speaker 4: and tell me if I'm wrong, But do you think

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Speaker 4: that this risk that's associated with Westport is overhyped?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Whose fault is that?

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Speaker 3: I don't?

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Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know. I think that.

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Speaker 5: It's hard for me to blame on any one person

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Speaker 5: it's not.

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Speaker 7: New for it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Glenna's it's good to talk to you. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: taking the time to run us through that. That's Glenna's Alley.

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Speaker 4: Lifelong Westport resident and real estate agent Heather I agree

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Speaker 4: with you entirely. As much as I don't like Bishop

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Speaker 4: Brian at all, I really hate double standards. I think

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Speaker 4: we all do. There's an alternative way, and I'm getting

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Speaker 4: some texts on this, there's an alternative way of interpreting this,

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Speaker 4: which is actually the police were just etching to change

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Speaker 4: the rules and they found the right. They have drawn

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Speaker 4: a line in the sand. That's it. The new rules apply.

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Speaker 4: No one gets to cross the bridge except they've drawn

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Speaker 4: think back, and that's fair enough if you think back. Though.

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Speaker 4: that perhaps the public would be cooler with. So if Brian,

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister has finally confirmed what has kind of been

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Speaker 4: He is going to go the White Tonguey next week,

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Speaker 4: with National Party Prime ministers, isn't it. He's not going

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Speaker 4: I understand sometimes during the week, Man Barrisoba can run

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Speaker 4: By the way, just apropos what happened to El Hanuma

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Speaker 4: about people who do that, you know, like the guy

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Speaker 4: and squirts with something innocuous, But now he's been charged.

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Speaker 4: Why would you waste your times? Why do that? If

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Speaker 4: doesn't it. Eighteen past four Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters

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Speaker 4: with US Now, Hi piney ok, So, do you think

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Speaker 4: it's an al Karez Ciner final and that's what's going

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Speaker 8: It feels like today. The semi finals are tonight, Carlos

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, did you hear the grunt?

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Speaker 8: The double grunt was just a double grunt that they.

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Speaker 6: Got caught up?

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Speaker 8: Well, isn't that what Sevelenka was it? Sebelinka got called

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Speaker 8: up for it, or one of them anyway, got called

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Speaker 8: up for a double grunts. We're hitting the ball back

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Speaker 8: supposedly hit that you can only grunt once, not twice.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: that got in trouble. Have a listen, what are you reckon?

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Speaker 3: It's like a.

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Speaker 8: It's a continuation of the grunt, isn't it. I don't

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Speaker 8: know that there's two discernible grunts there obviously to cheer.

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Speaker 4: Dan Mitchison's going to be US out of the US

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Speaker 4: Of Auckland football shows up just how useless the management

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's got it. Now you will have caught the

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, look, thanks, but no thanks. We're not going

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 4: And finally, ten blind and low vision fans attending the

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Speaker 4: Bend E Machinson, US correspondent is with US now. Hello Dan,

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Speaker 4: Hello Heather. All right, So does it look to you

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Speaker 14: Uh? Oh, that's anybody's guest at this point. But he's

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Speaker 4: So what is it, what's brought What is the feeling

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Speaker 4: But is it I mean some theorized that what he's

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Speaker 14: and they confiscated basically computers, and ballots that they said,

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Speaker 14: we're held at that facility as part of an investigation

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Speaker 14: into possible election interference. But why does he continue to

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Speaker 14: harp on this? People are asking, you know, you won

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Speaker 14: the White House twice. You're not going to change the

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Speaker 14: mind of people who said there was election fraud or

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Speaker 14: those who said there wasn't at this point in time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so people don't love the Milania doco.

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Speaker 14: Well this is very interesting, isn't it. You've got a

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Speaker 14: movie that was directed by Brett Rattner, who was a

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Speaker 14: well on Hollywood director accused of sexual assault of a

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Speaker 14: number of women back in twenty seventeen. You have got

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Speaker 14: Amazon MGM producing this documentary that they have spent millions on,

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Speaker 14: about forty million. Jeff Bezos from Amazon spent forty million

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Speaker 14: on it to buy it, and then another thirty five

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Speaker 14: million to promote it. Right now, the movie is on

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Speaker 14: track to make three million dollars this weekend ticket sales

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Speaker 14: near me and I checked out a number of theaters.

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Speaker 14: Actually it looked okay, I mean some of the theaters

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Speaker 14: were half full. But you look at other parts of

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Speaker 14: the country, like in Boston theaters there haven't sold a

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Speaker 14: single ticket, and there are ads saying we will pay

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Speaker 14: you fifty dollars if you come to see this screening

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Speaker 14: of this movie, but you have to stay through the

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Speaker 14: entire film to collect.

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Speaker 4: What okase is what's going wrong for her? I'm here for

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Speaker 4: this film.

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Speaker 14: I don't know. I think it may be interesting. I

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Speaker 14: think you're going to have again, it's kind of go

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Speaker 14: down party lines. I can't see a lot of Democrats

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Speaker 14: going to pay you know, twelve or fifteen dollars, twenty

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Speaker 14: dollars if you're going in the evening to go see

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Speaker 14: a movie like this when you know it's going to

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Speaker 14: be streaming, probably on Amazon, and you know, less than

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Speaker 14: sixty days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so that's a fair point, Dan, I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. Dan Mitchens in our US correspondence eighteen away

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Speaker 4: from five.

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Speaker 2: Either do for c Ellen?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm the only one that's enthusiastic about it. Hey,

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Speaker 4: you know how we talk a fair but we spend

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Speaker 4: a bit of time on this program talking about screens

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Speaker 4: and what they do to kids, and we have discussed

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Speaker 4: in the past how it's turned kids into bits of hermits,

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Speaker 4: and now they stay at home in their bedrooms on

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Speaker 4: their phones, and they don't go out and do the

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Speaker 4: stuff we used to do, you know, hook up with boys,

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Speaker 4: go for joy rides, get a bit boozed at the skatepark,

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Speaker 4: that kind of They just smoke a fag. They're not

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Speaker 4: doing any of that stuff. There is an upside till

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Speaker 4: that happening. At the moment. The murder rate in the

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Speaker 4: UK has fallen to its lowest level in more than

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Speaker 4: forty years. In the year to September, the number of

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Speaker 4: cases of murder or manslaughter in England and Wales fell

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Speaker 4: by seven percent to four hundred and ninety nine. This

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Speaker 4: is the lowest annual figure since nineteen eighty three. And

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Speaker 4: mainly what they're putting that down to is a drop

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Speaker 4: in stabbings that happened during drunken nights out on the town.

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Speaker 4: So it's not all bad. Seventeen away from five Politics

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Speaker 4: with Centric Credit, Check your customers and get payments. Certady

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Speaker 4: BARRISOPA right now quarters the five BARRISOPA, senior political correspondence

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Speaker 4: with us. Hello Barry, Hello Heather. Okay, So why is

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Speaker 4: it that we've chosen today to say no thank you

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Speaker 4: to joining the Board of Peace.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, I think we're sort of timing it

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Speaker 11: to the extent that we don't want to declare our

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Speaker 11: hand be one of the first to declare our hand

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Speaker 11: for being against it, because then we stand out a

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Speaker 11: bit more. And the thing is, you know, diplomacy with

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump is you're all on edge. If you jump

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Speaker 11: out of the starting blocks too quickly, then you can

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Speaker 11: be damaged in some way, and tariffs come into mind there.

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Speaker 11: But look, there's been some confusion about this billion dollar

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Speaker 11: entry fee as well. What basically the United States I

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Speaker 11: won't be paying anything because it's initiated the Peace Board,

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Speaker 11: so it's going to cost the US nothing. And I

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Speaker 11: wondered what all this money was going to be spent on,

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Speaker 11: each country contributing a billion dollars American to it. Well,

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Speaker 11: they say in the wording of it that is voluntary,

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Speaker 11: but you're not going to become a member unless you

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Speaker 11: pay it, so it's compulsory essentially. And the money, what

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Speaker 11: they say is will go towards rebuilding Gaza. Well that's

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Speaker 11: when it was concentrated on Gaza. It would sound now

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Speaker 11: though that Donald Trump and his infinite wisdom is the

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Speaker 11: self appointed chair of this board, will go wide than that.

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Speaker 11: And look, at all other disputes around the globe, inviting

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Speaker 11: Vladimir Putin to belong to the board, because of course

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Speaker 11: the Ukraine and Russia are at war, so that's another

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Speaker 11: resolution that they would like to see afforded in that

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Speaker 11: part of the world. So it's and rightly so it's

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Speaker 11: seen by many people as Donald Trump trying to become

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Speaker 11: the emperor of the world. And you sup the United Nations. Now,

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Speaker 11: you know, when you look at the United Nations, they've

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Speaker 11: done nothing really in recent times to be an effective

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Speaker 11: organization in any way at all. So you know, it's

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Speaker 11: about time that was reformed. And maybe the reform of

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Speaker 11: the United Nations will see no need for this peace

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Speaker 11: board as proposed by Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: So are you suggesting that because Donald Trump setting up

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Speaker 4: a peace board, it might sort of hurry along a

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Speaker 4: possible reform of the UN.

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Speaker 11: Possibly and one can live and hope could be the

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Speaker 11: new Secretary generals. Well, then definitely in that case, there

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Speaker 11: will be no reform and Donald Trump will will rain.

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Speaker 4: No. I mean, if there's one thing worse than having

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Speaker 4: a Security Council with veto power, it's having the whole

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Speaker 4: outfit run by just the Americans with power.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what I'm starting to realize is that your

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Speaker 4: your hatred for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 11: No, it's not a hatred. I respect the man greatly,

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Speaker 11: as you well.

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Speaker 4: Know your derangement about Donald Trump. I'm not deranged, knows

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Speaker 4: no bounce. But coming in very close second is your

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Speaker 4: increasing derangement about his press secret Yes.

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Speaker 11: Well I don't know about derangement, but I'll allow your

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Speaker 11: listeners to hear and listen to this woman. Since our

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Speaker 11: friend Donald Trump was re elected for a second term,

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Speaker 11: the one person we've heard of from the most from

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Speaker 11: the White House, so it would seem as his twenty old,

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Speaker 11: twenty eight year old press secretary current and Leavitt, this

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Speaker 11: is a woman you don't want to get on the

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Speaker 11: wrong side of if you want to know what the

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Speaker 11: Don's thinking, or perhaps she represents them perfectly. Now have

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Speaker 11: a listened to her having a god a reporter who

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Speaker 11: did to give some facts on the Ice agents shooting

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Speaker 11: people in Massachusetts and the thirty two people who died

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Speaker 11: in nice custody last year and one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 11: two US citizens who were detainer. That was all pointed

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Speaker 11: out to Carolyn Leavitt. You would never be left wondering

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Speaker 11: what Levitt was thinking. Have I listened to their dressing

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Speaker 11: down The reporter got.

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Speaker 15: You're a left wing hack. You're not a reporter. You're

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Speaker 15: posing in this room as a journalist. And it's so

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Speaker 15: clear by the premise of your question, and you and

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Speaker 15: the people in the media who have such biases but

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Speaker 15: fake like you're a journalist. You shouldn't even be sitting

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Speaker 15: in that seat. But you're pretending that you're a journalist.

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Speaker 15: But you're a left wing activist. And the question that

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Speaker 15: you just raised and your answer proves your bias. You

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Speaker 15: should be reporting on the sacks and the brave men

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Speaker 15: and women of ICE are doing everything in their power

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Speaker 15: to remove those heinous individuals and make our community safer.

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Speaker 15: And shame on people like you in the media who

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Speaker 15: have a crooked view and have a bias view and

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Speaker 15: pretend like you're a real, honest journalist.

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Speaker 11: Now that's not putting somebody in this place. I don't

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Speaker 11: know what is.

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Speaker 4: So did that personally offend you?

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Speaker 6: Berry?

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Speaker 11: It didn't offend you, But I would imagine if I

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Speaker 11: was a journalist sitting and I've been in that briefing

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Speaker 11: room on a number of occasions, in the White House

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Speaker 11: and if I was sitting there and it was having

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Speaker 11: a go at me, I'd be offended.

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Speaker 4: All right, Hey, so Christopher Lexon is going to go

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Speaker 4: to White Has, Yes he is.

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Speaker 11: He's not going to go on the day on My

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Speaker 11: tongue he day. He'll be an Auckland at a community event.

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Speaker 11: But he'll be at the Ewee Chairs Forum on the

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Speaker 11: fourth and will attend the Hophary on the fifth, So

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Speaker 11: be there Wednesday Thursday, but not on my tonguey Day itself.

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Speaker 11: He wasn't there at all. Of course last year he

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Speaker 11: was down I think in Akaroa last year, and some

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Speaker 11: controversy about that at the time. But you know, sometimes

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Speaker 11: when you see prime ministers going to these things, now

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Speaker 11: Helen Clark was one that gave them a wide birth

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Speaker 11: from time to time, because you know, they get tired

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Speaker 11: of being abused. So one can only hope when whether

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Speaker 11: we live in a democracy and when a prime minister

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Speaker 11: goes to an occasion like this, they should be treated

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Speaker 11: with the respect that they would expect to be treated

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Speaker 11: themselves with. So you know, let's hope some wiser council

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Speaker 11: will prevail on this white tonguey day.

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Speaker 4: All right, Barry, thanks very much. We'll get you back

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Speaker 4: and wrap the political week. That was at about quarter

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Speaker 4: past six. It's eight away from five.

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Speaker 2: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking for.

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Speaker 16: So where does this in the FTA going out? The

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Speaker 16: New Zealand first is moaning about it. New Claimers they

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Speaker 16: pulled their support before it even got settled. On McCloy.

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Speaker 16: Trade ministers will us morning.

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Speaker 7: The trade deals are complicated. What's important is the detail.

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Speaker 7: There are no rights for migration and that's no rights

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Speaker 7: at all. It's merely one thousand, six hundred and seventy

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Speaker 7: skilled workers we need in the economy decided by New

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Speaker 7: Zealand to the New Zealand standards, can come in for

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Speaker 7: three years onion leave.

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Speaker 2: This is very very straightforward.

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Speaker 7: Where five million people they are one point four billion people.

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Speaker 2: We do very well out of this deal.

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Speaker 16: One hundred scent. I don't think anyone's against the trade.

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Speaker 16: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 16: the Defendant News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Heather on the bridge protests. I agree with what you

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Speaker 4: said earlier one hundred percent. The stability of the bridge

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Speaker 4: is not dependent upon the political persuasions of those crossing it,

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Speaker 4: keep them all off it forever more, plenty of other

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Speaker 4: places for them to bang their drum bang on. We're

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Speaker 4: going to have a chat to the police just after

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Speaker 4: five o'clock about what they're going to because from the

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Speaker 4: sounds of things, Bishop Bryan Apostle Messiah, I don't even

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Speaker 4: know Archangel Brian is pretty much hetty. He's pretty determined

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Speaker 4: to cross across the bridge tomorrows. Is getting all his

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Speaker 4: people to go to Victoria Park just you know, at

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Speaker 4: the bottom there of Freeman's Bay pondsmby, and so the

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Speaker 4: police probably got their work cut out for them with him.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, we'll have a chat to the cops shortly

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Speaker 4: about that. Millennia Trump's documentary. Just by the way, it

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Speaker 4: hasn't premiered yet, right, so today is the thirtieth of January,

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Speaker 4: is the day that it premiere is, but of course

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Speaker 4: it's not yet full. Nois the thirtieth over in the States,

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Speaker 4: so it's yet to come out. It has already been

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Speaker 4: completely slated by reviewers who haven't watched the movie at all.

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Speaker 4: So they've all gone on to a particular website Letterboxed,

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Speaker 4: and they've started reviewing it. For the most part, it's

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Speaker 4: running at about two and a half stars out of five,

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Speaker 4: with one hundred reviews of the movie. Of course, none

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Speaker 4: of them by people who've watched it, but they are

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Speaker 4: full noise admitting to the fact that they're just making

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Speaker 4: a concerted effort to run the thing down. So what

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to say is, perhaps don't look at the

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Speaker 4: reviews before you watch it. But then again, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe they're not wrong because it doesn't look like it's

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Speaker 4: going to be great, and actually I'm still going to

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Speaker 4: watch it. On that subject, On the subject of the Trumps,

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Speaker 4: Winston Peters has made a point today in an interview

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Speaker 4: which I think actually some people with teds might want

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Speaker 4: to consider, which is that we need to stop taking

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Speaker 4: so seriously what it is that Donald Trump says. Winston

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Speaker 4: Peter said, I never took Trump's comments about annexing Canada seriously,

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Speaker 4: usurping the right to control Canada. No, no, Republicans are

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Speaker 4: not going to put up with it. I mean, thinking

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Speaker 4: out loud is one way of conducting foreign policy, but

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Speaker 4: there's no reason for the rest of us to react

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Speaker 4: to it. And I think you know, given Winston Peter's

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Speaker 4: tenure in foreign policy. It's probably worth listening to him

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Speaker 4: on this. I think he's bang on Donald Trump's He's

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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that we could just could just

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Speaker 4: let fly off into the universe. Now I've forgotten to

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Speaker 4: tell you about the dung beetles, okay, but we're going

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Speaker 4: to be doing an interview with at the owner of

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Speaker 4: a dung beetle business here in New Zealand. He's looking

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Speaker 4: for a government injection of funding to save his business.

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Speaker 4: So just hang on for twenty minutes or whatever and

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Speaker 4: you'll hear all about it. And just to tick police annex.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find a fat sack and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and

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Speaker 1: the power of satellite mobile news talk said, be good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Brian Tarmaki says he is still planning to protest by

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Speaker 4: walking across Auckland's Harbor Bridge tomorrow, despite a police promise

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Speaker 4: to stop it. He's urging crowds to meet him at

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Speaker 4: Victoria Park in the central City tomorrow for a protest

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Speaker 4: in opposition to the COVID nineteen restrictions. Superintendent Nila Hassan

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Speaker 4: is the White Matar District Police Commander and with us.

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Speaker 17: Hey, Nila Hither, good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Do you reckon he? Is he bluffing or is he

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Speaker 4: still going to try it?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 17: Look, I have no idea. We're just we're responding to

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Speaker 17: the indications that have been given by that group. They

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Speaker 17: applied for a permit through m GEDTA, they didn't get

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Speaker 17: the permit to march over the bridge, and our job

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Speaker 17: is to make sure that we minimize disruption and keep

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Speaker 17: people safe from the way we will be doing that

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Speaker 17: tomorrow is by preventing anyone from marching over the Auckland

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Speaker 17: Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 4: How are you going to prevent it?

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Speaker 17: We have a significant police of an operation underway. We've

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Speaker 17: been planning us for a while and we have been

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Speaker 17: in communication with that group requesting them to consider an

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Speaker 17: alternative location, a place where they can protest peacefully and morfully.

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Speaker 17: At this stage, they haven't taken up that offer.

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Speaker 4: Would you go so far as to put up cordon's

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Speaker 4: to stop them?

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Speaker 17: We have a significant operation underway, Heather, I'm sure you

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Speaker 17: can appreciate. We'd prefer to keep the sort of operational

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Speaker 17: details close to our test, but we will be ready

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Speaker 17: to respond to that group if they decide to march

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Speaker 17: onto the Harbor Bridge. I read fortunately cause disruption to

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Speaker 17: the community in and around the Harbor Bridge, unfortunately and

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Speaker 17: lower CBD.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I read somewhere that you've actually drafted in officers

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Speaker 4: from around the country to help with that. Is that right?

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Speaker 9: We have?

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have how many?

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Speaker 17: Look, again, I prefer not to go into the operational detail,

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Speaker 17: but what I can say hither is that we have

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Speaker 17: a number of specialist staff available to ensure that we

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Speaker 17: respond accordingly to this protest tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: So why is it that you guys are taking such

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Speaker 4: a tough line on him when the pro Palestinian protest

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Speaker 4: was allowed to go and the anti Treaty Principles Bill

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Speaker 4: Hikoy was allowed to go across the Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 17: That's a very reasonable question. Look, attempts to use the

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Speaker 17: Harvard Bridge as an arena for protests seems to have

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Speaker 17: increased over recent years. It's quite a unique environment, as

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Speaker 17: you know, and it's not the same as say, protesting

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Speaker 17: on Queen streets. And yes, we have facilitated some protest

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Speaker 17: activity in the past, but since the Equal we have

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Speaker 17: learnt about more about the impacts of large groups of

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Speaker 17: marches going over the bridge during our discussions with MCTA

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Speaker 17: and their advice, which you may assume in the media

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Speaker 17: last week, was that it can cause damage to this

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Speaker 17: piece of critical infrastructure, and our job is to ensure

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Speaker 17: that that doesn't happen and is the tie people safe.

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Speaker 17: So for that reason we've given what we know. We're

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Speaker 17: putting a line in the sand for this protest, but

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Speaker 17: also any future protests seeking to march across the Auckland Harbor.

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Speaker 17: That's correct, So please are making it clear to any

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Speaker 17: group that from now on, no access will be supported

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Speaker 17: or facilitated. Now I can explain that a little bit more.

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Speaker 17: In the past we had people marching over the clipons.

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Speaker 17: Now in conversations with MZTA, we know that that is

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Speaker 17: not only incredibly risky. The side barriers are only nine

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Speaker 17: hundred high. Not only is it incredibly risky, but the

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Speaker 17: impact on the infrastructure when people march kind of has

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Speaker 17: they get them beat and it starts, it can cause

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Speaker 17: damage to the infrastructure. As a result, MZTA have made

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Speaker 17: it really clear you couldn't have people marching on the

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Speaker 17: clipons Now, if we were to facilitate something going through

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Speaker 17: the center structure of the bridge that will literally cause

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Speaker 17: the whole Harbor Bridge to be closed. We're not willing

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Speaker 17: to cause that much disruption or be involved in that

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Speaker 17: much disruption for the community public of Aukland. So we've

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Speaker 17: had to draw a line in the sand. It happens

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Speaker 17: to be on this occasion with this protest.

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Speaker 4: Nila, thank you for taking the time to talk us

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Speaker 4: through that. Superintendent Naila Hassan, who's the white Aamatara District

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Speaker 4: police commander. It's twelve plus.

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Speaker 2: Five Keller duper c Allen.

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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister has confirmed we will not be signing

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Speaker 4: on to Donald Trump's so called Board of Peace. The

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Speaker 4: body was created to oversee reconstruction and peace efforts in Gaza,

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Speaker 4: but New Zealand will not join. Countries have already joined,

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Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia and Russia, and we'll be avoiding the eyewatering

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Speaker 4: price tag that comes with it. Robert Patman is the

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Speaker 4: Otago University International Relations professor, is with us now, Hi,

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Speaker 4: Robert hi Heller. Obviously the right call, isn't it?

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Speaker 9: I think so yes. I think it's given the fact

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Speaker 9: that New Zealand has traditionally stood and still does for

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Speaker 9: a two state solution involving Israel and the Palestinians. This

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Speaker 9: Board of Peace, headed by mister Trump does not have

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Speaker 9: any Palestine representation on it, and it also doesn't seem

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Speaker 9: to recognize the principle of political self determination for the

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Speaker 9: So it will be hypocritical for us to sit on

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Speaker 9: such a board which falls short in those areas.

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Speaker 4: Right now, There's been a reasonable amount of pressure on

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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister in the last week to answer questions

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Speaker 4: about it, and he's chosen only today to say it.

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Speaker 4: Why today? Is that simply so that we could join

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Speaker 4: a crowd who all say it at the same time.

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Speaker 9: I think that you know, one or two people have said,

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Speaker 9: why didn't we turn it down immediately? I'd probably find

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Speaker 9: myself in that camp. But to be fair to the government,

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Speaker 9: I think that they probably wanted to be seen as

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Speaker 9: weighing it up carefully and not making an impulsive decision.

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Speaker 9: But I do think the decision they made is the

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Speaker 9: right one.

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Speaker 4: Now, do you think that it doesn't pose a threat

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Speaker 4: in any way to the UN and that the UN

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Speaker 4: may look at this and realize there are moves a

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Speaker 4: foot well, at least there is the consideration of setting

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Speaker 4: up an alternative body that may cause the UN to

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Speaker 4: actually find some reason to reform itself.

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Speaker 9: I don't think it is a serious rival to the UN.

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Speaker 9: The UN consists of one hundred and ninety three countries,

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Speaker 9: and a lot of countries have already declined to participate

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Speaker 9: in mister Trump's so called Board of Peace. And you know,

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Speaker 9: if you want to chair a board of peace, you

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Speaker 9: also have to walk the talk. And in thirteen months

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Speaker 9: in office, mister Trump has threatened to the territories of

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Speaker 9: two Democratic allies, Denmark and also Canada, as well as

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Speaker 9: he's now threatening Iran. So in a sense, it seems

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Speaker 9: to lack the sort of credibility you need to draw

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Speaker 9: in lots of other countries. Now, let's be quite clear,

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Speaker 9: the UN is struggling. But one of the reasons it's

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Speaker 9: struggling is because it is saddled with this ridiculous system

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Speaker 9: in the UN Security Council, of which the US has

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Speaker 9: an exceptional privilege. The US, Russia and China, the UK

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Speaker 9: and France all have the privilege of VETO, so they

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Speaker 9: can block anything they don't. We live in the world

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Speaker 9: where five countries can do twoing masses of war and peace,

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Speaker 9: and that is pretty The rest of us are putting

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Speaker 9: up the course. But what do you do in that situation?

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Speaker 9: Do you move on to a new international organization? Not necessarily,

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Speaker 9: you try and make the assisting one much better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the problem, isn't it, Robert. Nobody's making

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Speaker 4: the existing one much better, and that's what I'm hoping for. Hey,

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Speaker 4: thank you for your time. Robert Patman, International Relations Professor,

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Speaker 4: Otago University. Okay, I'm going to tell you about consumer

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Speaker 4: confidence because there's some good news there, and let's deal

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Speaker 4: with the dung beatles next quarter past listen, news just

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Speaker 4: out as that Clayton Weatherston's been denied parole. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to run you through some of the detail of that

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Speaker 4: when I get a chance. Right now it's eighteen past five.

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Speaker 4: I've got an unusual request for you. Well, actually, I

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Speaker 4: mean the request is bog standard. It's government financial help,

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Speaker 4: but the outfit making the request is less less. So

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Speaker 4: it's a dung beetle rearing business that's running into trouble.

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Speaker 4: Dung beetle innovations, imports dung beetles obviously, and then sells

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Speaker 4: them to farms to clean up the water, But the

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Speaker 4: sales are drying up. Doctor Sean Fogy is the co

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Speaker 4: founder and he's with us. Now, hiy do, I'm well

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Speaker 4: thank you. Now let me just understand how this works.

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Speaker 4: So you get the dung beetles onto the cow farm

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Speaker 4: and they clean up the manure, meaning the manure doesn't

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Speaker 4: run into the water. Is that about right?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's one of the many benefits yep.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So why are the sales drying up if it's

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Speaker 4: magical like that?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think part of it is that we have

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Speaker 12: probably statistically speaking, about fifteen percent of our farmers are

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Speaker 12: very innovative early adopters on things like this. There's another

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Speaker 12: fifteen percent that will see what they're doing and think, okay,

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Speaker 12: that's a good idea and get on board too. So really,

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Speaker 12: I think we've got a small percentage of the farming

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Speaker 12: community that are willing to.

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Speaker 2: Look at this.

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Speaker 12: And I think part of the process with this, if

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Speaker 12: you want to do a nationally scale wide process, you

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Speaker 12: kind of need a central government nationally fund a done

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Speaker 12: with the rest if you want everyone to get on board.

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Speaker 4: Ah okay. So the first thing I thought when I

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Speaker 4: read about this was that we haven't had a great

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Speaker 4: run introducing exotic things into this country because you know,

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Speaker 4: it starts affecting the ecosystem. Do dung beetles not do that?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 12: So we've actually New Zealand's got one of the leading

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Speaker 12: processes for making sure that any new organism that's brought

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Speaker 12: into this country goes through a very rigid risks, costs

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Speaker 12: and benefits process. It's by the Environmental Protection Authority. As

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Speaker 12: I said, it's one of the best in the world.

872
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 12: And of course dung bells went through that in the

873
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 12: early day, in which we had to go through that

874
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 12: whole process to see what they would do and what

875
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 12: they wouldn't do. If they had had any negative consequence,

876
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 12: they wouldn't be given permission to enter the country. Now,

877
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 12: that was actually co funded by the MPI Ministry of

878
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 12: Prime Industries through a Sustainable Farming Fund and some post

879
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 12: introduction research stuff through Gradiwan International Council. So they've been

880
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 12: in for quite some time, gone through that process to

881
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 12: make sure they do what they're supposed to do, which

882
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 12: is get rid of poop off the pastures.

883
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: Oh good, hey, okay, look there are loads of business

884
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: is having a tough time through the recession that we're

885
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: coming out on the other side of. Why should the

886
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: government put money into you?

887
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 12: Well, I think you know, in terms of increasing productivity

888
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 12: on the farm and also one of our big one

889
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 12: hundred percent New Zealand campaigns that we do, we look

890
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 12: at improving water quality. Well, really the mitigation tools that

891
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 12: we're currently using, those are right peerium, buffer strips and

892
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 12: fencings will in terms of surface flow and high rainfall

893
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 12: events for reducing water quality, it's not doing particularly well.

894
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 12: It could do much better if you add in additional

895
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 12: tools such as dungbills on the post chare as a

896
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 12: solution to take pressure off those existing mitigation tools. Now

897
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 12: that's a massive thing for reducing surface flow of contaminants

898
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 12: entering our waterways, of which we rely heavily on and

899
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 12: partial productivity. Well, you know, we need all the boosting

900
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 12: we can to increase our GDP coming out of livestock production.

901
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 12: If you can improve soil health through the introduction of

902
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 12: bills and getting rid of all that poop which is

903
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 12: free fertilizer, then why not investing in it? Really, it

904
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 12: doesn't cost that much compared to other tools that we

905
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 12: invest heavily into.

906
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Speaker 4: Okay, Sean, thanks very much for talking, Sir Dr Sean

907
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: forgy dung Beetle Innovations co founder and director. Okay, let's

908
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 4: talk about Winston next five two.

909
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

910
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: it's Heather duplic Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage

911
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: like no one else us talk.

912
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: They'd be hither.

913
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 4: The problem with the dung beetle is that it makes

914
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 4: no difference to anything to do with the cow waste.

915
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: Most pastor or consents to discharge required buying dung beetles,

916
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: which die with wet winters, and all they do is

917
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: cost a fortune to keep buying. Peter, thank you, twenty

918
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: four past five.

919
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: Now listen.

920
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: I think it's a little early in the year to

921
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: be making too many predictions about election year. Having said that,

922
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 4: I do think that there is a very strong chance

923
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: that Winston Peters might be the story of this year.

924
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: If he carries on the way that he is in

925
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 4: the polls, he could well be in the double digits,

926
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Speaker 4: like well into the double digits by the time November's

927
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: election rolls around. He's already sitting somewhere between around ten

928
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 4: and twelve in the last couple of poles and generally

929
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: minor parties go up and polling the closer we get

930
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: to election day because of the extra attention that they

931
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: get during the campaign. Commentators are already talking about the

932
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: possibility of the next government being just National and New

933
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: Zealand first, no act in there. Just the two of

934
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: them together may be enough if that would happen. If

935
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Speaker 4: he keeps on this as Winston keeps on climbing the

936
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Speaker 4: way he is, and obviously if National can get its

937
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: act together and lift its vote share. If you don't

938
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Speaker 4: believe it's possible that Winston will climb more, just look

939
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: at what he did this week. It did that old

940
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 4: Winston trick of whipping up the anti immigrant rhetoric again.

941
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: I actually didn't think that there was very much of

942
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: that sentiment around at the moment until he started talking

943
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: in the text about the immigrants started rolling in. Winston

944
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: can sniff out an election platform like no one else.

945
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: He knows. There's a probably increased number of people who

946
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: are gagging for a conspiracy like the government is trying

947
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: to hide the FTA documents that try to roll on

948
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: us and what we were also reminded of this week

949
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: is that he's completely unencumbered by the facts. A lot

950
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: of what he said was just complete nonsense. Here's a

951
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: question for you. If it does end up being just

952
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: New Zealand first and national and Winston is eighty one

953
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: years old, is this the election that he finally pushes

954
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: for a turn at being prime minister? Like I said,

955
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: he could become the story of this election year, Heather

956
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: duplusy Allen, like I also just said before, Clayton Weatherston,

957
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: who stabbed Sophie Elliot two hundred and sixteen times, has

958
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: been denied parole. Today he appeared before the Parole Board

959
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: for the first time. He was asked when he walked

960
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: into He appeared via audio visual link and he is

961
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: asked by the chair of the Parole Board how he

962
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: felt felt and he said a bit anxious. Now no

963
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: photographs were taken in there, but how the reporters who

964
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: were in the room have described him as still wearing glasses,

965
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: still sporting. You'll remember him. He had the kind of

966
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: like long gingerish hair with like a funny little beard

967
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 4: and you know, back in the day the squarish glasses

968
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: square wireroom glasses, so he's still got the facial hair.

969
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 4: His hair is now dramatically parted to one side. He's

970
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 4: got a large muscular frame. He was wearing shorts and

971
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: a gray T shirt and also crocs with socks is

972
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: what they say he was wearing. He was not actually

973
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 4: looking for parole, apparently, according to his lawyer. He feels remorse,

974
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: He feels shame for his action. He understands the huge

975
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: distress and upset that he's caused for the family's victim,

976
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: her friends and associates. He says himself that he's open

977
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: to reviewing things and looking at things in a different way,

978
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: and basically, as an explanation for what happened that day,

979
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 4: he says, I was just absolutely full of uncontrollable rage

980
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: as far as I can understand, I think we all

981
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 4: reached that conclusion a long time ago. Anyway. That's the

982
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: first of the parole hearings for Clayton Wetherston, won't be

983
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: the last. I'd imagine. News is next and small tuddle very.

984
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: Shortly on your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and

985
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: in your car on your drive home. It's Heather duplicy

986
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Ellen drive with one new Zealand and the power of

987
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: satellite mobile can use talks.

988
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 14: That'd be.

989
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: Mister.

990
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: Just to do a little bit of name dropping. I

991
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: went up to the funeral of Northland MP Grant McCallum's mother,

992
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: Pam McCallum with John Banks. I was a branch chairman

993
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: when he was our EMP. This s John Banks. John

994
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: Banks predicts that Winston will be Prime Minister this time

995
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: next year. That's from Doug. Thank you Doug, and also

996
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 4: condolences to Grant McCallum, who's a very good lock actually

997
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: on the loss of his mum.

998
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: Um.

999
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: Listen if you've got any shares and the Gen Taylor's

1000
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: good news for you because full Sith bars forecasting their

1001
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: earnings are set to rise by about forty five percent

1002
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: for the six years to the end of six months

1003
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: to the end of twenty twenty five. So we'll have

1004
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: a chat to them after six o'clock. Right now, it's

1005
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 4: twenty four away from six.

1006
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: Heather do for ce Allen.

1007
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: Do you remember the smell in Bromley in christ Church

1008
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: that we've talked about on the show. Well, it's still

1009
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: there and it is worse. The horrific extension emitting from

1010
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 4: a faulty wastewater treatment plant has got worse in recent weeks.

1011
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: Apparently the council says to be another week before they

1012
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: can get it back under control. Stephen mcpaig is a

1013
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 4: community advocate and is with us now. Hi, Stephen, Good afternoon, Stephen.

1014
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: We spoke to you about this. I had to look

1015
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: back May twenty twenty two, so it's nearly four years

1016
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: ago and it is still going on. The smell how

1017
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: can it still be going on?

1018
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 6: I'm still trying to figure that one out. The graphs that.

1019
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 19: The council release with all the hydrogen sulf life has

1020
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 19: been increasing since the end of September, and now it's

1021
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 19: to a place where the whole city stinks and it's disgusting.

1022
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: So okay, how much worse has it got.

1023
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 6: It's just as bad as what happened when the fire happened.

1024
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 6: It's not a little bit worse. At the moment, the

1025
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 6: wind is blowing from Bromley over the city and it's

1026
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 6: just thinking out everything.

1027
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 4: It's absolutely I mean, I feel bad for the people

1028
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 4: of christ Us A good thing that everybody's getting a

1029
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: taste of what you've had to live with for the

1030
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: last four years.

1031
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 6: Honestly, I wouldn't recommend this on my enemy, let alone

1032
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 6: my friends or my neighbors. It's it's so hard to

1033
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 6: describe it. It's like rotten human waste that's burnt and

1034
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 6: the smell just sticks to everything. Sorry, I just can't

1035
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 6: describe it more than that.

1036
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: So basically, yeah, okay, burnt poe basically Now, I think

1037
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 4: I think in order, the timeline at least for getting

1038
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: it completely under control and you people smelling normal smells

1039
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: is about three years. They can't go any faster than that.

1040
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 19: I'm hoping they can go faster than that. The activated

1041
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 19: sludge system that they want to install normally takes around

1042
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 19: five years. The council is trying to do three years,

1043
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 19: and I'm really hoping they can do it in less

1044
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 19: than that two years maximum, I hope.

1045
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you's got any compos Sorry, have you got any

1046
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: compo for this at all?

1047
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 7: No?

1048
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 6: I haven't. I live outside the area.

1049
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 19: From the last compensation that they gave out to the community,

1050
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 19: and that was a shambles.

1051
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 6: This year, they haven't even discussed it. There is no

1052
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 6: inkling from council that they want to give us any

1053
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 6: compensation because of the stench.

1054
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: Well, best of all we can do is hope you,

1055
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 4: hope you know, wish you the best of life. Is

1056
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 4: it really does sound like I'm quite a thing to

1057
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: have to live through that. Stephen mcpaig, a community advocate

1058
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: for the people dealing with the Smell and Bromley. It's

1059
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 4: twenty one away from.

1060
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: Six the Friday Sports titled with New Zealand Suburby's international

1061
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: realty A name you can trust locally and globally.

1062
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: New Zealand.

1063
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 20: I think in Jamie Joseph, Dave Rannie and Ian Foster,

1064
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 20: you've got three guys. They've all got the love of

1065
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 20: the All Blacks to work together in a supercharged coaching team.

1066
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: I try to go somewhere where they went to't broadcast it,

1067
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 4: but obviously we did so, Yeah, we were has some

1068
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: conversations we can be had, right sports Hurtle. This evening

1069
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 4: we have Darcy Watergrave sports talk host and Paul Allison

1070
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: news talks. They'd be rugby commentator lads, Hello.

1071
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 11: Hello lady.

1072
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 4: Paul. Does it feel to you like this All Blacks

1073
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: head coach job as being tailored for one person and

1074
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: that person is Jamie Joseph.

1075
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 21: I'm not sure that's tailored specifically for him, but he

1076
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 21: clicks all the right boxes for what they're looking for.

1077
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 21: They want international experience. He's got that. He's been part

1078
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 21: of the New Zealand rugby set up currently because he's

1079
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 21: coaching the Highlanders and on the New Zealand Rugby payroll.

1080
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 21: He coached the All Black fifteen at the end of

1081
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 21: the tour last year.

1082
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: He's got a great track record.

1083
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 21: He's been coaching provincial, super or international rugby since twenty ten.

1084
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 21: So he ticks all the right boxes and I think

1085
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 21: he is the best candidate for the role. In fact,

1086
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 21: I actually thought that a couple of years ago that

1087
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 21: he was desperately unlucky to miss out on that job

1088
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 21: when it became available back in twenty twenty three, and

1089
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 21: so I think he's got the right credentials. Dave Rennie's

1090
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 21: another strong candidate that's being battered around at the moment,

1091
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 21: and I think this role will appeal to Jamie. He's

1092
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 21: got on two conditions. One that he can build a

1093
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 21: team around him that he wants and that he's comfortable with,

1094
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 21: and that he actually has the latitude and the decision

1095
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 21: making and the delegated authorities to be able to do

1096
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 21: what he needs to do as a head coach and

1097
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 21: not be strangled. But the one thing I've been really

1098
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 21: impressed with with New Zealand Rugby this time round is

1099
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 21: that the reviews were done not by one person and

1100
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 21: that person is now on his way overseas, which was

1101
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 21: Mike Anthony, the High Performance director. It's done by the chairman,

1102
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 21: a former All Black and Kevin Milamu and someone that

1103
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 21: understands high perfore s bought really well. And Don Tricker

1104
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 21: and David Kirk was with the All Blacks for part

1105
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 21: of that Northern hemisphere too, so he would have got

1106
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 21: a really good insight to what was happening. And I'm

1107
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 21: sure that some of the players and that All Black

1108
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 21: fifteen that have played for the All Blacks last year

1109
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 21: may well have got canvass as well as part of

1110
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 21: the review process. So I think it's pretty thorough. I

1111
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 21: don't think it's a done deal, but I certainly think

1112
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 21: Jamie is the right person and he fits and ticks

1113
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 21: the right boxes.

1114
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 4: Nose do you think do you think that all the

1115
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 4: game playing and all that nonsense and the bad decisions

1116
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: and the rigged stuff, all of that kind of stuff

1117
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: that has gone on in recent years with the head

1118
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: coach is over now that Kirk is in charge, Like,

1119
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: if you were going into this job, would you feel

1120
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: confident that you would have the backing of.

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 22: Ends up based on recent history, you'd say no. But

1122
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 22: recent history has been controlled by a number of men

1123
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 22: who are no longer in those roles. And I think

1124
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 22: that's a key thing. You look at he and Foster.

1125
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 22: If he is to be dragged into this or encouraged

1126
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 22: into this, he won't want to go anywhere near anything

1127
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 22: that's gone in any thing to do with the crew

1128
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 22: that got rid of him in the most clumsy manner

1129
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 22: the last time around. So that opens the doors for

1130
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 22: him and he can almost look Paul at this. It's

1131
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 22: almost a retrospective decision around what their parameters are. I

1132
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 22: reckon they gave Jamie the job ages ago. It was

1133
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 22: a pretty easy decision. So they went, Ah, what we

1134
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 22: do is we'll structure our parameters around Jamie. Like, maybe

1135
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 22: I'm being a little footpned around this, but.

1136
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 11: He doesn't seem suggest he's all the marks. I think

1137
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 11: they know that.

1138
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 21: But you talk, you talk about you know Ian Foster

1139
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 21: that My point earlier was Jamie's got to build his

1140
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 21: team around him. I have to be allowed to do that,

1141
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 21: and whoever he wants, and whether it's the in Foster

1142
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 21: I doubt that, don't think that would be the case,

1143
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 21: and whether it's Dave Rennie. But this is where I

1144
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 21: think it's a lot more robust. I think he might

1145
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 21: have been earmarked for the role, but I don't think

1146
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 21: he's got it, and I think he's actually going to

1147
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 21: have to work through a process along with anybody else

1148
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 21: that puts his hands up that that makes the criteria

1149
00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 21: that they're outlined.

1150
00:56:59,360 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 7: Well.

1151
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 22: The question here though, is do you trust the process

1152
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 22: and not banged on it for the last couple of

1153
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 22: months And that's the main thing, because the process last

1154
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 22: time was.

1155
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 4: Near Why do you trust the process?

1156
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 20: Well?

1157
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 21: I trust the process because who they've got involved. They've

1158
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 21: got David Kirk, Kevin Mila mu don trigger the acting

1159
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 21: CE and a former player who's that is it?

1160
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 23: Richie mccaugh should.

1161
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 21: Be someone like that, won't it? And so they've actually

1162
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 21: got they've been very transparent with who they're actually having

1163
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 21: there as their appointments panel. It's still going to go

1164
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 21: through the New Zealand Rugby Union Board for final approval.

1165
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 21: But last time and the time before, they were a

1166
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 21: rubber stamped than those guys that were unsuccessful got told

1167
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 21: very quickly after they left the room that they are unsuccessful.

1168
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 21: This time, I think it'll be a much more thorough

1169
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 21: and in depth process than what we was seen previously.

1170
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 21: The only thing that you've also got to remember now

1171
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 21: is that there's no high performance manager in place or director,

1172
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 21: and there's no CEO in place, and so if a

1173
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 21: coach was going to come into that role, surely they

1174
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 21: need to develop really strong relationships with those two key

1175
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 21: positions as well.

1176
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 22: Yeah, iro in fist at the top, and that's what

1177
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 22: steve two years to do. When he was the CEO,

1178
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 22: love him or hate him, you definitely knew who was

1179
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 22: in control. And I think the way you put this

1180
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 22: down now, so first we appoint the coach, then we'll

1181
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 22: worry about the other shenanigans afterwards, as.

1182
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Opposed to.

1183
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 21: Now, they've been trying to appoint the CEO for some

1184
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 21: time and some of the candidates that they've identified haven't

1185
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 21: accepted the role, so keep names. There's been some offshore

1186
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 21: candidates that have been I understand off.

1187
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 11: Of the role I was.

1188
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 22: I was referencing the coach being the boss, like Steve

1189
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 22: cho was the CEO boss. That's what I meant. It's

1190
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 22: not I know what they're going to do. I don't

1191
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 22: know what they're going to do with that, but I

1192
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 22: think we know that who was going to be the

1193
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 22: coach is the coach. And it's not a matter of gregor.

1194
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 22: Paul joined me talking about basically school kid gangs and

1195
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 22: you'll pick all your mates and you're up against those

1196
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 22: guys last year, and then I really want that guy's system.

1197
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 22: But he's already put his chips in with this bloke here,

1198
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 22: so much more structured than asked about the process because

1199
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 22: they've plainly looked at that process and gone right, maybe

1200
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 22: it wasn't trustworthy. They've read jagged the process and it's

1201
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 22: demes defined and I like that. Ye fact, this is

1202
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 22: what we're doing. We're in control. This is what's happened.

1203
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick break. Come back to

1204
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: the sports Tittle quarter.

1205
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: Two the Friday Sports Title with New Zealand South Ofby's international.

1206
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: Real team the only truly global brand.

1207
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: Hey what about this one? I was Sports Title by

1208
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 4: the way, Darcy Whotograph. Paul Allison, what about this one, Paul,

1209
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: I just got a text from somebody in politics saying,

1210
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 4: my mate says he saw Jamie Joseph having a coffee

1211
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 4: with Hanson and timrou today.

1212
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 11: You can't make in politics. I believe what you just did.

1213
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 21: Then the Heartlanders are playing against the Crusaders and Tim

1214
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 21: Marou today, so that'd be the reason you would have.

1215
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 4: Seen that, mate who sent me the text? There you go,

1216
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: there's the answer. All right, listen, Paul Coco Gough. Should

1217
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 4: she have been allowed to smash her racket in private

1218
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 4: or was it okay that it was filmed and broadcast?

1219
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 21: Well, she's ranked number two in the world, she's done

1220
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 21: this before, said she'd never do it again. Well she did.

1221
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 21: And the fact that it's not setting a good example,

1222
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 21: whether it's actually in the public eye or not. The

1223
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 21: fact that she didn't get beaten controversially she was actually

1224
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 21: absolutely wiped off the court six one, six two, and

1225
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 21: the fact that she has to behave like a spoiled brat.

1226
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 21: I don't think it's that good. And maybe I'm old school,

1227
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 21: but I don't think it's whether it's behind closed doors

1228
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 21: and didn't want to take it out on a support team.

1229
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 21: She said, Look, she'll be disappointed, sure, but she doesn't

1230
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 21: have to do that. I think it's a poor example.

1231
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 21: I'll tell you what. The other thing I'm not really

1232
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 21: happy with in tennis haven't been for a long time.

1233
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 21: The amount of grunting that goes on.

1234
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean it was this. I can hang on

1235
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: a tech Listen.

1236
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 22: Paul, you've got here we go, Here we go.

1237
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: Sorry I stuffed that up. Here we go? Is it

1238
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: a double grunt?

1239
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 7: Paul?

1240
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 21: Well, I don't mind, maybe with a serve, because that's

1241
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 21: where they have to put a lot of energy. But

1242
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 21: every shot, whether it's a backhand or a little drop shot,

1243
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 21: they seem to be doing every title. Not everybody, but

1244
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 21: some people do. Some are a lot worse than others,

1245
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 21: And I actually think it's unnecessary as well.

1246
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 4: I'm partial.

1247
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 21: Like you like that crunning hole.

1248
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: I think I'm not gonna lie. It's sensual. I like

1249
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: it's a bit sexy. What do you think, Darcy Safe?

1250
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 22: No, No, I think their tonal situation is worse. I

1251
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 22: don't mind the odd grunt, it's when they start screeching

1252
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 22: that it starts freaking around.

1253
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: An example, when they screech, that noise because that does

1254
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 4: come and it just greats.

1255
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 22: I've got to I've got an issue with volume and audio.

1256
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 22: The older I get, the long rum and radio, the

1257
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 22: more my ears are very sensitive to high pitched squills.

1258
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 11: As opposed Coco Gough.

1259
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 22: You can do whatever she wants in private, but if

1260
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 22: she does it anywhere near the possibility of a camera,

1261
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 22: you're going to get it.

1262
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 11: Because we're media.

1263
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 22: Well they call us bloody media for a reason. We'll

1264
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 22: find someone like, oh my god clicks and you'll jump

1265
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 22: on it. So you control the narrative by simply not

1266
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 22: presenting that to the public and it doesn't happen. You

1267
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 22: go and do it somewhere private. I don't think the

1268
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 22: Aussie Open f cameras and the toilets.

1269
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, go smash it in the toilet if you have to. Hey,

1270
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: what do you think of live golf? Does? Is it

1271
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 4: in trouble? You've got Patrick read defect defecting back to

1272
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 4: PGA and also Brooks keepker.

1273
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 22: What I think here is what is stronger in golfer's mind.

1274
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 22: Is it money or is it ego? And I'm beginning

1275
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 22: to move to ego now as away from money because

1276
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 22: they've got yeah, yeah, now It's like, actually, I want

1277
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 22: to play in America and I'm playing the PGA, and

1278
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 22: I want to be relevant in majors, and I can

1279
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 22: only do playing the best of the best in the PGA.

1280
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 22: Maybe I've made a bad decision and I'm gone, what

1281
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 22: do you think?

1282
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 21: How much do you need to make? I mean your

1283
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 21: point hither? I mean, he's made forty million dollars Patrick

1284
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 21: Reid in the three years he's been on Live Gold.

1285
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 8: How much forty six?

1286
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's he's running the lead jet. You've got the

1287
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 11: issue with that.

1288
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 21: I mean, he made thirty five million in prize money

1289
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 21: and winnings in an eleven year career leading up to this,

1290
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 21: and he's made forty million in three years and Live Golf.

1291
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 21: He won't have an easy ride back through because he

1292
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 21: can't go through that sort of returning members program, but

1293
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 21: he will get back in. I don't think this is

1294
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 21: opening the floodgates, and I understand he's the only one

1295
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 21: this year that's going to be returning, so well, we'll

1296
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 21: we'll wait and see what happens. But yeah, they've made

1297
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 21: a lot of money doing it, and now they can

1298
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 21: go back to what I call the real golf.

1299
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 11: And the thing is, no one likes them anyway.

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Speaker 22: I don't know why he's going back if one of

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Speaker 22: the most hated golfer was out there on the circuit

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Speaker 22: and you look at out how much money is enough money?

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Speaker 22: There's that concept that once you get to a billion

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Speaker 22: dollars you need a certificate that says congratulations, you one

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Speaker 22: capitalism and not allowed anymore.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: A billion dollars is definitely enough money. Hey, guys, thank

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Speaker 4: you very much, really appreciate. That's our sports huddle this evening.

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Speaker 4: Darcy water Grave and Paul Allison are eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Just on that India FTA that we signed. One of

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Speaker 4: Winston Peter's back at Winston Peters. One of wins and

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Speaker 4: Peter's criticisms of it was that we rushed it a

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Speaker 4: bit and we shouldn't have. We shouldn't have rushed it

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Speaker 4: as we should. We should have taken our time a

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Speaker 4: bit longer, could have got a bit well. Actually, part

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Speaker 4: of the reason why we couldn't have and why we

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Speaker 4: had to do the deal when we did the deal

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Speaker 4: is they have just signed a deal now with the EU,

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Speaker 4: and Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent, will be with

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Speaker 4: us after this half OS six to talk us through

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Speaker 4: the quality of the deal they've got over there. Now

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Speaker 4: five away from six. I am starting to get a

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Speaker 4: little bit worried about our economic recar I know it's

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Speaker 4: deja vu. We were here in twenty twenty five, but

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Speaker 4: are you not also just going, oh, was just hoping

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Speaker 4: that it would be a little bit more convincing at

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Speaker 4: the start of twenty six than it actually is. I'm

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Speaker 4: just a little just not saying I'm worried. I'm just

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Speaker 4: starting to get a little bit worried about it, but

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Speaker 4: because it's not a bit more shaky than I would

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Speaker 4: have liked. But I do have some happy news that

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Speaker 4: may just give you reason to kind of default back

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Speaker 4: to the other way and go now it's going to

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Speaker 4: be okay. The A and Z Roy Morgan Consumer Confidence

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Speaker 4: Index came out today. It's up nearly six points this month,

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Speaker 4: so it's now sitting at one hundred and seven point two.

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Speaker 4: Anything over one hundred is considered to be a positive outlook.

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Speaker 4: It's being driven largely by the big cities Auckland and

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Speaker 4: Wellington are are leading the Wellington's the most upbeat at

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Speaker 4: one hundred and nine. Now that should tell you something,

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Speaker 4: because I tell you what if there have been two

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Speaker 4: places that have been miserable in this country in the

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Speaker 4: last year, it's been Auckland and Wellington and it is

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Speaker 4: sitting now at the highest level in four years. So

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Speaker 4: there may be something there for us to be excited about.

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Speaker 3: Listen the KFC.

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Speaker 4: Have you yesterday on the show when christ Bishop was

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Speaker 4: on the show, he said to us he delivered some

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Speaker 4: KFC to the road workers on the East coast. Have

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Speaker 4: you seen the size of the boxes of the KFC

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Speaker 4: that they delivered. It's on the Prime Minister's Facebook page

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Speaker 4: like these are these are really really big boxes of KFC. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: question for you if you if you were like, do

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Speaker 4: you know what, I'm just gonna get some take out?

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Speaker 4: Like I've got a big crowd of people who I'm

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Speaker 4: just going to get takeout? Is your go to? Do

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Speaker 4: you reckon? KFC is the one that you go to first?

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Speaker 4: Do you think like cater to the masses? Jesus on

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Speaker 4: the hell fishing? You know, like you got hates some people?

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Speaker 4: Would you go right, KFC, that's what we're doing. Or

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Speaker 4: would you go because I immediately went no, if you

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Speaker 4: get to if you're going to have a crowd there,

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Speaker 4: what you're going for immediately as pizzas because because it's

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Speaker 4: the size of like, there's a there's a good relationship

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Speaker 4: between how many people you're gonna feed with it and

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Speaker 4: how much space it's taking up, you know, in terms

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Speaker 4: of the container, Like that's a lot of space that

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Speaker 4: KFC is taking up for not a huge number of

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Speaker 4: people that's going to be fed. That pizza is going

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Speaker 4: to cater to a lot of people for a small size.

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Speaker 4: Alternatively just just throwing it out there. You could go

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Speaker 4: fish and chips, but this is the this is the

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Speaker 4: butt over summer, I bought some fish and chips for

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Speaker 4: about six people was eighty five dollars. That is that

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Speaker 4: is inflation right there. Right, Let's deal with the gen Taylor's.

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Speaker 15: Next group that.

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Speaker 1: Queer Business meets Insight the Business Hour with Header Dupless,

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Speaker 1: Allan and Mas.

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Speaker 2: Insurance and Investments, Your futures in good Hair used talks.

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Speaker 4: Evy even in coming up in the next hour, Peter

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Speaker 4: Lewis is going to talk us through what the Europeans

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Speaker 4: got in their free trade deal with India. Barry Soaper

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Speaker 4: is going to wrap the political week that was, and

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Speaker 4: we'll head over to the UK as well at seven

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Speaker 4: past six. Now there are clear skies ahead for our

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Speaker 4: energy retailers and the wet weather is to thank for that.

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Speaker 4: Forsyth Bar is forecasting a big for our big four

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Speaker 4: gen Taylor's earnings are set to rise by about forty

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Speaker 4: five percent for the six months to the end of

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Speaker 4: last year. Andrew Harvey Green is a senior equity analyst

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Speaker 4: at Forsyth Bar. Hi Andrew, Hi, Heather, having you well,

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Speaker 4: thank you. So is it basically down to the rain.

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Speaker 18: An essence?

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Speaker 8: It is?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, So if we look at the what happened six

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Speaker 18: months ago, there would be effects of that one to

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Speaker 18: twenty four, which I think we all know what happened

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Speaker 18: then and the six months we've had a lot of rain,

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Speaker 18: which is favorable for the generator retailer emings.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Is it also going to look a little bit better

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Speaker 4: than it really is because you know a year earlier

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Speaker 4: it didn't look that flash.

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Speaker 18: You know, that's right, yep, So you know that the

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Speaker 18: increase does look very large and is very large. On

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Speaker 18: a historic basis, But a large part of that is

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Speaker 18: simply because the earnings six months ago were so poor.

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Speaker 18: In particular, Meridian Energy paced quite significant demand response costs

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Speaker 18: paid to the smelter, and also you had very high

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Speaker 18: guess costs be paid to the likes of methodics as

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Speaker 18: well as running lots of coal and all of those

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Speaker 18: three things. It just really hits the earnings for the

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Speaker 18: sector six months ago twelve months ago.

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Speaker 4: Do you just in terms of, you know, the capital

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Speaker 4: that these guys have in order to fund the projects

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Speaker 4: that they want to do, you expect that Genesis doesn't

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Speaker 4: have enough capital and we'll go for a capital raise.

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Speaker 18: I think it's possible that they held in an invest

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Speaker 18: today in November last year, and it's fairly clear when

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Speaker 18: they set out their aspiration are just going forward that

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Speaker 18: there is a little bit of a gap between what

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Speaker 18: they would like to do and the level of capital

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Speaker 18: they currently have available to them. So their balance she

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Speaker 18: is really highly geared and they don't have much headroom

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Speaker 18: there and they've got uses I guess for the units

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Speaker 18: that they are going to be making over the next

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Speaker 18: few years is already air mark, So you know, certainly

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Speaker 18: I think it's possible. It may not be right now,

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Speaker 18: it might be at some point later on in the year,

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Speaker 18: although if they do decide to raise equity, I think

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Speaker 18: it's more likely than not to be before the middle

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Speaker 18: of the year.

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Speaker 4: Now, a lot of a bunch of people who own

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Speaker 4: shares will obviously get excited about what the dividend is

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Speaker 4: going to be. But we need to temper our expectations there, do.

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Speaker 18: We, I think so? I mean, the reality is a

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Speaker 18: lot of all of these companies are actually looking to

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Speaker 18: reinvest a lot of the units that they're making back

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Speaker 18: into new new projects, and so the level of dividend

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Speaker 18: growth is relatively limited. Certainly your long way less and

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Speaker 18: a lot less than what you can your operating in

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Speaker 18: these come through.

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Speaker 4: Andrew, Thank you very much, as always, Andrew Harvey green

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Speaker 4: full sith Bar Senior equity Analyst. It is being reported

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Speaker 4: that open AI is racing to publicly list in the

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Speaker 4: States by the end of this year, and apparently it's

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Speaker 4: in a bit of a It's clear that it's been

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Speaker 4: wanting to do it, but the fourth quarter of this

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Speaker 4: year is now the deadline, and basically it's hurrying up

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Speaker 4: because it wants to beat its rival, which is Anthropic. Now,

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Speaker 4: if it manages to do this, if it does manage

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Speaker 4: to list this year, then twenty twenty six is going

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Speaker 4: to be a blockbuster year for stock market debuts because

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Speaker 4: you've got open Ai, Anthropic, and SpaceX among the most

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Speaker 4: closely watched tech tech companies that could go public, and

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Speaker 4: it's been a bit of a drought in recent years

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Speaker 4: with the old public listing. So I'll tell you what

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Speaker 4: they'll be frothing for those three six eleven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by news dog Zebbi.

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Speaker 4: Hither, can you please look into what is going on

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Speaker 4: with our international airfares this year? They've never been as

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Speaker 4: high as they are now returned to Europe as four thousand,

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Speaker 4: five hundred dollars. Do you know what? I have no idea,

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Speaker 4: but it's interesting that you say that because I was

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Speaker 4: having dinner with somebody the other night and they regularly

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Speaker 4: go back to Sydney, and I said, are you're going

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Speaker 4: to have you been to Sydney over someone? And they

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Speaker 4: said absolutely not. Bloody expensive. It's like two thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: to go to Sydney. You could fly to the States

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Speaker 4: for that kind of money. Now I'm thinking that what

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Speaker 4: they're doing there is they're comparing a business class ticket

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Speaker 4: to Sydney versus an economy ticket to the States. But

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Speaker 4: the point is still there that it is incredibly expensive.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, I'm sure that welcome to the price of flying.

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Speaker 4: I suppose of late fourteen PAS six. Let's wrap the

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Speaker 4: political week that was. Barry Sopa is our senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, Barry, Hello again, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it is.

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Speaker 4: Serious this coalition split over the India FDA.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 11: It's politics, I think, And that's one thing that Winston

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Speaker 11: Peters is very good at. And I think you've just

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Speaker 11: mentioned that he's an extraordinary electioneering politician. He knows how

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Speaker 11: to read the mood of the public and has always

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Speaker 11: you know, I remember some time ago when he lost

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Speaker 11: a representation in Parliament when John Key said that he

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Speaker 11: wouldn't work with him, and he started, in the lead

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Speaker 11: up to the following election, started filling halls around the country.

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Speaker 11: And I said then that he is on his way back.

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Speaker 11: And of course, you know, you can put him out

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Speaker 11: of parliament for three years, but that's all he's ever

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Speaker 11: been out, so he knows how to read the public.

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Speaker 11: He knows how to read an issue. And this free

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Speaker 11: trade agreement with India, I think it's a very good

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Speaker 11: one generally, but there is some immigration attached to it,

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Speaker 11: but not nearly as bad as what Winston would be

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Speaker 11: reading it. And I don't know who's been advising him,

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Speaker 11: but it's not nearly as bad as what he sees.

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Speaker 4: But are you assuming that he's being advised by somebody

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Speaker 4: like he actually believes it's bad or does he just

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Speaker 4: say it's bad because he knows it's a reading.

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Speaker 11: I have to believe that he believes it's bad.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that he believed.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, you can't come out as a politician

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Speaker 11: and a pretty serious politician and say this is rubbish.

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Speaker 11: Although having said that, he's done it before. He said

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Speaker 11: that about the China Free Trade Agreement, and I was

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Speaker 11: up in Beijing when that was signed.

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Speaker 4: And it basically powered our economy for like more.

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01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 11: Well, yes, and there were raised eyebrows there when Winston

1514
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 11: Peters wasn't at the signing ceremony because he, as Foreign Minister,

1515
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 11: should have been there and that was the Clark government

1516
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 11: of course, so and this one is as close to

1517
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 11: home to him as the China one was. And yes,

1518
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 11: I'm surprised that he's come out in the way he has,

1519
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 11: although have it on the one hand you would say that,

1520
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 11: but on the other hand you could say, well, this

1521
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 11: is Winston classic electioneering once again.

1522
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly what I think it is. Hey, Judith Collins,

1523
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 4: so do you think it's a good good appointment for her?

1524
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 11: Well, you know, she had twenty one years in the

1525
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 11: law before she came into Parliament, and you know she

1526
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 11: has often said the two loves she has as politics

1527
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 11: and the law. So and Jeffrey Palmer, of course, he

1528
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 11: was there fifteen years after he left Parliament. He was

1529
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 11: the chair of the Commission, and you know he brought

1530
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 11: very much an academic eye to it. And I think

1531
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 11: Judith Collins will humanize it a bit more than what

1532
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 11: Jeffrey was able to do. And I think she'll probably

1533
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 11: do quite a good job there. And you know, she's

1534
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 11: conveniently leaving it at a time when they don't have

1535
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 11: to call a by election for her seat, which would

1536
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 11: clearly be absolutely ridiculous. So she's obviously been talking to

1537
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 11: Chris Luxon about this job for some considerable time. She's

1538
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 11: you know, she said eighteen portfolios in her time in

1539
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 11: part she's the leader of the National Party for goodness sake,

1540
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 11: and ran against a JASINDARDRN in twenty twenty. That was

1541
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 11: her low point I think in politics, because really National

1542
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 11: had a fairly crashing defeat, although not as bad as

1543
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 11: what Bill English had in two thousand and two when

1544
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 11: they only got around twenty percent of the vote. At

1545
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 11: least she did better than that. But you know, I

1546
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 11: wish her well for the future because she I dubbed

1547
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 11: her the crusher and a name it's a monkey that's stuck.

1548
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 11: And even though she says she wasn't that appreciative of it,

1549
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 11: I'm sure she quite liked what it reflected, and that

1550
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 11: was a woman very much of steel. Even John Key

1551
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 11: has called her a possible Margaret Thatcher. I think that's

1552
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 11: probably stretching a point. I think she's a bit softer

1553
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 11: than Thatcher ever was. But you know, she was a

1554
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,520
Speaker 11: very able and good politician.

1555
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 4: Hey, do you think that it's going to be herey

1556
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 4: for the Prime Minister at White Hungy next week?

1557
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 11: Well, I would hope not. Don't forget last year we

1558
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 11: had the Treaty Principal's Bill. That's why I think Chris

1559
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 11: Luxon gave it a wide berth last year because certainly

1560
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 11: Maldy were pretty volatile about that, as we saw with

1561
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 11: the march on Parliament. But yeah, no, I would hope

1562
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 11: that Malory will show him the respect that should be

1563
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 11: due of a prime minister that attends these days of

1564
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 11: commemoration and you know he's I guess he's not going

1565
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 11: to be there on White Hungy Day itself, which will

1566
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 11: remove a bit of the heat, but he'll be there

1567
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 11: at the EWE Leaders Forum, which is the first big

1568
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 11: event he'll be attending, and that can be volatile at times.

1569
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 11: But let's hope that there's a bit of respect shown.

1570
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah quite, Barry listen, thank you very much as always,

1571
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 4: Barry So, Senior political correspondent, rapping the political week. That

1572
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 4: was right, a little bit more on Clayton Weatherston and

1573
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: his parole hearing today. We'll do that next six to twenty.

1574
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics. It's all

1575
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour where they had the DUP slur

1576
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: and mas insurance and investments, your futures in good Hands,

1577
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: News talks.

1578
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 4: Envy Heather, what about the uncapped number of student visas

1579
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 4: read the India FDA. As we said yesterday, according to

1580
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 4: the Minister, there is no cap already, so there is

1581
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 4: there is no limit on how many Indian students can

1582
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 4: come to this country. Therefore, whether there is a cap

1583
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 4: therefore it's not. It's just not a thing. But this

1584
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: is to my point about Winston just talking absolutely nonsense,

1585
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 4: which I was making making much earlier in the program,

1586
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 4: last absolute last mention of this FTA. There is a

1587
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 4: poll which I think is relevant here, which is that

1588
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 4: this has come from the Taxpayers Union curier guys. Today,

1589
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: fifty four percent of us in the country, according to

1590
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 4: this pole reckon the deal is good for New Zealand.

1591
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 4: And this is the interesting thing, forty four percent of

1592
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: music Land First voters, so nearly half of New Zealand

1593
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 4: First voters think it's a good thing for the country.

1594
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 4: So I don't know if Winston I mean Winston. Here's

1595
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 4: the thing about Winston, right, Winston doesn't need all of

1596
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 4: us to think that. Winston needs about fifteen percent of

1597
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: us to agree with him and then he's happy. Now,

1598
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 4: Clayton Weatherston so told you earlier Clayton Weatherston's been denied

1599
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 4: parole for the killing of Sophie Elliot all those years ago.

1600
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 4: During his parole hearing, he revealed that he's had recently

1601
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 4: had a diagnosis of autism or some degree of neurodivergence,

1602
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 4: and he wants to explore that further. So that just

1603
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 4: makes him, you know, in you know, with basically the

1604
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 4: same as every other young person out there at the

1605
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 4: moment getting some sort of a diagnosis along these lines. Anyway,

1606
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 4: that'll go somewhere to explaining it, I suppose for him,

1607
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 4: He says, from a young age, I've always felt overwhelmed

1608
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 4: in certain situations. I became avoidant to taking on emotions.

1609
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 4: He was asked to explain why he'd stabbed Sophie Elliot

1610
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 4: so many times, two hundred and sixteen times and then

1611
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 4: mutilated He and if you remember back, there was relative

1612
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 4: there was cutting off of limbs and of bits of

1613
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 4: her body and whatnot. He said he had a current

1614
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 4: view on that, which may change over time. He says,

1615
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 4: I was alleviating my sense of frustration, alleviating my distress

1616
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 4: with Sophie. Things I felt about myself were pretty much

1617
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: projected onto her. I was full of absolute rage, a

1618
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 4: real rejection of her in every aspect of her. It

1619
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 4: was just a really brutal, visceral way of wiping someone out.

1620
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 4: How I felt at the time had hurt me in

1621
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 4: every possible way. I'm embarrassed by the perverse nature of

1622
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 4: it and disturbed by the primal nature and aspect of it.

1623
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 4: It was an f you to everything about her. I'm

1624
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 4: ashamed that I would channel that much rage and energy

1625
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 4: towards a person. It was incredibly misguided. He was then

1626
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 4: asked by the parole board why he was showing no

1627
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 4: emotion now when he was talking about Sophie Elliott, and

1628
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 4: the suggestion was perhaps he'd learned to regulate his emotions.

1629
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 4: He says, I don't feel calm. I feel very emotional.

1630
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: Some days I get very emotional about it. Some days

1631
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 4: I just have to accept what's happened and deal with it.

1632
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 4: My emotional response is variable, and at that point Clayton

1633
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 4: Witherston began to cry and was past the box of tissues.

1634
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 4: Six twenty five.

1635
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1636
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 4: So Menial in America has just made their biggest hire.

1637
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 4: Yet it's not a player, and it's not a new CEO.

1638
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 4: They have hired for themselves a Chief Kindness Officer. This

1639
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: is because they're launching a new social media campaign ahead

1640
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl called be kind to Your Rival. Obviously,

1641
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 4: just In his arrival in the US is having an

1642
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 4: impact on the NFL. If it looks like it's a

1643
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 4: little bit of a croc, it's because it probably is.

1644
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 4: The new Chief Kindness Officer is a guy named dar

1645
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 4: Mahn Don't ask. He's got twenty six million YouTube followers

1646
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 4: where he posts videos that are meant to teach us

1647
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 4: social lessons like don't be rude to poor people and

1648
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 4: don't pretend to be disabled for money. I know you

1649
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 4: were thinking about doing that at the weekend, and he's

1650
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 4: trying to teach you not to do that. His intentions

1651
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 4: might be good, but he's a little bit of a

1652
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 4: laughing stock online for obvious reasons, including because his scripts

1653
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 4: and his acting sound like this.

1654
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 2: I am living you.

1655
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 3: What you get it? You cannot with you.

1656
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 4: We have a kid together, Naddy, don't me. I'm sorry,

1657
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 4: but you have not even make care, not anyway. This

1658
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 4: guy can't understand why he's not compelling. This guy isn't

1659
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 4: the only one being paid to post the Super Bowl season,

1660
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 4: right over one hundred and sixty social media creators have

1661
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 4: been put on the NFL payroll to make online content

1662
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 4: for the games. So if you see something pop up

1663
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 4: on your social media talking about how great American football is,

1664
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 4: there is a very very good chance that that person

1665
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 4: may be getting a sneaky check. Also, here's a life

1666
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 4: lesson for you. If you see somebody popping up on

1667
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 4: your social media talking about how great anything is, anything

1668
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 4: at all, just anything at all, chances are they're getting

1669
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 4: a sneaky check for that. So maybe don't believe it.

1670
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 4: Turn that algorithm off, turn the social media off, free yourself.

1671
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 4: Peter Lewis is going to be with us now XT

1672
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 4: on that deal between India and the EU and just

1673
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:04,799
Speaker 4: how good it is. New Stalks, eb.

1674
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:13,839
Speaker 1: Yellow, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business

1675
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather, the duperic alt and mass insurance and investments,

1676
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands, used talks, EDB.

1677
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: Look, you're taking.

1678
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 3: Me out the ordinary? How would your name to.

1679
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 8: Hey?

1680
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 4: The why has Brian Tommocky made his march about the

1681
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 4: Harbor Bridge access? No one remembers what the protest is well,

1682
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 4: you know, actually, really such a good point. Do you

1683
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 4: know what his protest is about. It's actually about the

1684
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 4: COVID nineteen restrictions. Now, look, I like, you don't want

1685
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 4: to think about that, because Jeszu, you could raise my

1686
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: blood blood pressure in about five seconds flat thinking about

1687
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 4: what happened during COVID get And I say that having

1688
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 4: raised my own blood pressure, having read Grant's book just

1689
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 4: In his book, the book about Justin, and then watched

1690
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 4: the documentary movie on just this, I've had my blood

1691
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: pressure right up there. I'm gonna have to think about

1692
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 4: that stuff. But there's one thing to sort of be like, yeah,

1693
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 4: that was a really distinct time, and I feel agrieved

1694
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 4: about it. In quite another to organize a protest march

1695
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 4: for Saturday in January twenty twenty six. Anyway, whatever, I mean,

1696
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 4: God only knows what the problem actually is. He may

1697
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 4: have ongoing grievances. We'll leave it to him to sort

1698
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 4: that out. But yeah, but I'm I for one, am

1699
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 4: going to be watching the news tomorrow to see what

1700
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 4: the police do there. I suspect that a heavy crackdown

1701
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 4: on Bishop Apostle Brian will go down quite well with

1702
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: the public. Actually, now, really interesting question actually has been

1703
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 4: raised by the Sydney Morning Herald this afternoon, which is

1704
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 4: is China going to try to invade Taiwan next year

1705
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 4: because and the reason that they're asking this is because,

1706
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 4: of course, one of the generals, Jiang yu Jia, has

1707
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 4: of course been put in detention recently, just about a

1708
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 4: week ago or so. And you know, the one way

1709
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 4: of looking at that is, okayji Jjingping is busy rooting

1710
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 4: out all the corruption and all the stuff that's going on,

1711
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 4: and then the graft and whatnot. But another consideration is, well,

1712
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 4: this guy is a really high ranking general. This leaves

1713
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 4: a gaping hole in his ability. This is Gee's ability

1714
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 4: to be able to take Taiwan. If he hasn't got

1715
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 4: the generals in place, how's the PLA going to organize itself?

1716
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 4: How's it going to be able to operate?

1717
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 2: Right?

1718
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 4: So, the question then is if the goal was twenty

1719
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 4: twenty seven, can he still carry it out if he

1720
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 4: doesn't have the guys there able to do it. The

1721
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 4: goal definitely was, Well here's where twenty twenty seven comes in.

1722
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 4: The goal wasn't necessarily to go in in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: It was to be ready and able to go in

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven. That's the goal that he'd, according

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Speaker 4: to at least US Intelligence, had set for himself. So

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Speaker 4: I think the answer to the question is probably they

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Speaker 4: may well be ready. The army, the PLA may well

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Speaker 4: be like modernized enough in twenty twenty seven next year

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Speaker 4: to be able to do it. But whether they are

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Speaker 4: actually able to because they don't have the person now

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Speaker 4: is another thing altogether, and interestingly on that I can't say.

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Speaker 4: I can't give two. I went to a thing under

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01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 4: Chathamhouse rules at the end of last year. Chathamhouse rules

1734
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 4: is if you don't know what I'm talking about, is

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 4: you're not really supposed to name names and repeat what

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Speaker 4: people say. But I went to this thing at the

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01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 4: end of the year where the keynote speech was given

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Speaker 4: by a chap from the New Zealand Army. Previously from

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Speaker 4: the New Zealand Army who'd gone on to a seconvent

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Speaker 4: in the Pentagon and had spent like I think it

1741
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 4: was about five years in Washington, has now come home

1742
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 4: and he was delivering the speech about basically what he

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01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 4: thought was going on. And you know, it's relatively interesting

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01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 4: given all the geopolitical ructions and stuff like that going

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01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 4: on in the world. Anyway, the point he was talking,

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01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 4: he was just talking about how we all need to

1747
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 4: be ready for everything to change, and it's all going

1748
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 4: to be a bit dramatic out there with what's going on.

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01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 4: And then I had a chat to him on the

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01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 4: side afterwards and I said, what's happening with Taiwan? And

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 4: he was like, eighteen months. In eighteen months, China is

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01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 4: going to take over Taiwan. Now that was October last year,

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01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 4: So what does that take you to twenty twenty seven,

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01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 4: April twenty twenty seven, So we'll see what happens there.

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01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you were if you were of the

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01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 4: view that nothing was going to happen there, he's of

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01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 4: a different view altogether. Twenty one away from seven and

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01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 4: out of that part of the world, we have Peter

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01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,520
Speaker 4: Lewis Asia Business Correspondent.

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Speaker 23: Hi, Peter, Hey, good evening head.

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01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 4: Now you've had a look at the EU and India deal.

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01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 4: What do you think any good?

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Speaker 23: Yes, it's significant because these are two very large trading

1764
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 23: blocks and in fact, the EU is India's biggest trading partner.

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01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 23: Goods amounts about one hundred and forty billion dollars between

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01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 23: you Delhi and the EU. So this is a significant deal.

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,480
Speaker 23: It's going to cut about four billion euros in tariffs

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01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 23: off of EU exports each year. I think in particular

1769
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 23: what the Europeans will be pleased about is the lowering

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01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 23: of tariffs on European cars because this has been a

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01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 23: long held complaint about the EU. It's that its major

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01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 23: carmakers just can't compete in India, and tariffs on European cars,

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01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 23: which are currently one hundred and ten percent, are going

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01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 23: to fall to ten percent, so very very significant difference.

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01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 23: There will be a quota starting with two hundred and

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01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 23: fifty thousand vehicles annually, but that will increase over time. Overall,

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Speaker 23: it means that about ninety eight percent of goods on

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01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 23: on EU goods are going to be reduced. So this

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01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 23: is definitely a significant deal. There are skeptics about it

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01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 23: because India is known for being a protected market. It's

1781
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 23: all sorts of rules and regulations and red tape do

1782
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 23: make it difficult for partners to trade there. But obviously

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 23: there's the political element to this, which is that it

1784
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 23: sends out a very strong message to Donald Trump and

1785
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 23: while he's slapping tariff's on anyone. At the moment, he's

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01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 23: put tariffs of fifty percent on Indian goods. Nornda Modi

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Speaker 23: is basically saying, look, you know, we can do deals elsewhere,

1788
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 23: and he's actively trying to sign other trade deals as

1789
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 23: well with partners all around the world to try and

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01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 23: offset the impact of Trump's tariffs.

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Speaker 4: Now, I was just mentioning a minute ago the Chinese

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Speaker 4: general who is under investigation. What is it that he's

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01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 4: actually done wrong here?

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Speaker 23: Well, it's difficult to know other than this is very,

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01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 23: very surprising because Jiang Yuja is a very very close

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Speaker 23: ally of president. She has been described as a sworn

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01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 23: brother to the Chinese President. She kept him on past

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Speaker 23: retirement age to keep him on the Central Military Commission.

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Speaker 23: What it's been rumored is that he's done something which

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Speaker 23: was supposedly disloyal to she. We're not exactly sure what,

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01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 23: and sort of challenged She's authority. So the result of

1802
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 23: his removal is that really the whole military is under

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01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 23: the total control of Jijinping. He's the only person left

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Speaker 23: on the CMC apart from one other sort of general.

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Speaker 23: So this is a big, big purge. Even by Chinese standards,

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Speaker 23: by President J's standards. The Wall Street Journal was saying

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01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 23: that he was accused of leaking secrets about the country's

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01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 23: nuclear weapons program to the US and taking bribes. But

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01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 23: we've had no real confirmation, and of course we never

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01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 23: will because this will be part of the murky inside

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01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 23: doings and workings of the Central Military Commission and the

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Speaker 23: Chinese Communist Party. But certainly are very staggering development.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm fascinated by this. So the Chinese holidaymakers are

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Speaker 4: going for South Korea over Japan, are they?

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Speaker 23: Well, that's right. I mean again, there's the political element

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01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 23: to this, because China and Japan have had a big

1817
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 23: fall out over Prime Minister Takichi's comments over Taiwan, and

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01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 23: since then, China has been trying to encourage people not

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01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 23: to do business with Japan, not to travel to Japan

1820
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 23: in particular. And China is a very big market for

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01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 23: Japan's a very big market for Chinese tourists. So yes,

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01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 23: So this is a significant sort of change, and South

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01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 23: Korea is the one that is benefiting from this. It's

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Speaker 23: estimated that maybe a quarter of a million mainland Chinese

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01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 23: visitors are going to head to South Korea during the

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Speaker 23: nine day break for Chinese New Year, which is in

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01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 23: a couple of weeks time, while in the meantime, Chinese

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Speaker 23: arrivals to Japan may plunge as much as sixty percent.

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Speaker 23: So this is going to have an impact on both

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01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 23: South Korea's economy and Japan's economy as well. There's a

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01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 23: huge increase in flights going on between China and South Korea.

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Speaker 23: The number of flights have jumped by about twenty five percent,

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Speaker 23: and the spending in South Korea is estimated to be

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Speaker 23: maybe about three hundred and fifty million dollars during this

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Speaker 23: week's holiday that's coming up.

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Speaker 4: This it's a hell of a lot of money. Hey, Peter,

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Speaker 4: as always, thank you so much, mate, You look after yourself.

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Speaker 4: Will chatty you next week. Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent,

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01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,759
Speaker 4: hither bs The protest March tomorrow is not about COVID

1840
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 4: nineteen restrictions. Is about uncontrolled immigration and New Zealand values

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01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 4: being eroded. John, Thank you. Do you know what I

1842
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 4: should do? Actually, I should stop being lazy and I'll

1843
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 4: do a google and I'll tell you which one of

1844
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 4: those two reports is correct. Stand by sixteen away from seven.

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01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 1: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, John, the Texter is correct. The protest is an

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01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 4: anti mass immigration prott organized by the Christian group True

1850
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 4: Patriots of New Zealand. So I guess we're going to

1851
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 4: find out tomorrow. Just what was I saying not long

1852
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 4: ago earlier in the show, about just over an hour ago,

1853
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 4: saying Winston Peters may have sniffed something here on the

1854
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 4: immigration stuff. And we'll see tomorrow depending on the numbers

1855
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 4: who turn up. Maybe he's onto something, Maybe he's not.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen away from seven Mike ps UK correspondents with.

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Speaker 10: Us I, Mike, very good evening to you.

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Speaker 4: So is Putin definitely going to stop bombing Ukraine for

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01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 4: a week.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's what Donald Trump says. He says that Russia

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01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 10: has agreed not to attack key Ukrainian cities for the

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01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 10: next week. Now this is due to bad weather with

1863
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 10: temperature's due to be up to minus twenty four would

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01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,799
Speaker 10: you believe it? In the coming days. It follows attacks

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Speaker 10: this week, leaving one point two million homes without power.

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Speaker 10: Of course, this comes as peace talks between the United States,

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Speaker 10: Ukraine and Russia will resume over the weekend and the

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Speaker 10: scene as the best hope of peace so far. They

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01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 10: come on the fourth anniversary almost of the conflict fast approaching. Yes,

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01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 10: that's right, started in fact in February twenty twenty two.

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01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 10: Now new research reveals if the fighting continues, more than

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01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 10: two million people will have lost their lives by the spring.

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01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 10: That's in just a couple of months time, and more

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01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 10: than in any conflict since World War Two. Now, official

1875
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 10: figures are hard to come by, but it's thought there

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01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 10: have been one point two million Russian deaths in Ukraine.

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Speaker 10: It could be more than six hundred thousand that researches

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Speaker 10: from the widely respected Washington Center for Economic Studies. The

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Speaker 10: key sticking point, of course, remains that Russia wants some

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01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 10: of Ukraine's land. It says that can't happen. We'll just

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01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 10: have to wait and see if any progress is made

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01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 10: on those talks, and they due to start on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Okay, as Istarma reckons the trip to China was successful.

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01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 10: Yet what he says he says trade deals are being

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01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 10: done that will bring massive benefits to both countries. Speaking

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01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 10: after his meeting with President g in Beijing, the pair

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01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 10: had discussed, he says how huge opportunities in China could

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01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 10: benefit people in the UK. It was announced that the

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01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 10: UK based pharmacaceutical company then a Couple, invest twenty billion

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01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 10: dollars in China up to twenty thirty. China has also

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01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 10: agreed to allow British citizens to travel to the country

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Speaker 10: for up to thirty days without a visa. He says

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 10: making that easier for people to go will help with

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Speaker 10: trade as well. Starmer said the pair made good progress

1895
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 10: on cooperation over illegal immigration, but critics have argued the

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01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 10: UK should have a more cautious relationship with China because

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01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 10: of the risk to national security and the country's record

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01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 10: on human rights. Now a short while ago, Donald Trump,

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01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 10: giving his reaction, said it was very dangerous for the

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01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 10: UK to deal with China, mister Trump getting in on

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01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 10: the act on just about everything.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: What I find interesting here actually is just to the

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01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 4: extent to which the UK at the moment is almost

1905
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 4: defying or objecting to the US so doing this, which

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01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 4: is you know, of course the US is not going

1907
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 4: to love it. It's trying to go hard on China,

1908
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 4: and then the UK goes to visit China and then

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01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 4: the stuff about the NATO troops and the UK speaks

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01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 4: out publicly. Is there a reason why Starmer's doing this?

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Speaker 10: You know, both politically and economically, the countries in a

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01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 10: bit of a mess. I think that's fair to say,

1913
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 10: and we need to do anything that we can to

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01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 10: improve trade right around the world. Obviously Trump has got

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01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 10: his tariffs and I think, you know, the UK just

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01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 10: you know, also bear in mind, of course we're not

1917
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 10: part of the EU anymore, so you know, our trading

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Speaker 10: alliances are very different from what they were a few

1919
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 10: years ago. So I think what the UK is trying

1920
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 10: to do is go where it can and do those

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01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 10: trade deals really to boost our economy as much as

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01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 10: it can.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's good to talk to you, Mike. Thank you

1924
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 4: so much. Mike Piers, UK correspondent and Epple, by the way,

1925
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 4: is going gangbusters a it's just reported for the last

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01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 4: quarter of last year record high earnings. They reckon it

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01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 4: was the best ever quarter. And this was on the

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Speaker 4: back of and when this was happening last year, on

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Speaker 4: the back of surging sales of the iPhone in China.

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Speaker 4: Last quarter twenty twenty four, they sold They made sales

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Speaker 4: in China of eighteen point five billion. Same quarter last

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Speaker 4: year twenty five point five billion. That's an increase of

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Speaker 4: around about seven percent. That's not bad year on year.

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Speaker 4: Anyone would take that nine away from seven.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I have an update for you on something

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Speaker 4: that we discussed yesterday. Yesterday Jamie McKay mentioned that the

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Speaker 4: PGG head of wool as a woman called Rachel Sharer,

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Speaker 4: which amuses all of us. Let's let don't lie. There

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Speaker 4: is not a single person who hears that and thinks

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Speaker 4: all that doesn't think that's a bit funny, because it

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Speaker 4: is a bit funny, isn't it. Anyway? So I mentioned

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Speaker 4: somebody who's the Chap Brewer, who runs one of the

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Speaker 4: lobby groups in the alcohol industry, and the chat Brewer

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Speaker 4: got in touch with me and was like, as the

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Speaker 4: thing Heather. It is called nominative determinism. Nominative determinism is

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Speaker 4: the theory that people are drawn to jobs that match

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Speaker 4: their names. So The theory is basically, if your surname,

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Speaker 4: if you're born Rachel Sharer, you you're going to event

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Speaker 4: You're going to be interested, and you're going to be

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Speaker 4: more interested and wilden average punter, and so the chances

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Speaker 4: are that you might end up as the pgg head

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Speaker 4: of woolf anyway science. So at this point you're going

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Speaker 4: absolute crock of fair enough, But scientists in the States say, no,

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Speaker 4: not a croc actually true. They have spent decades studying it.

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Speaker 4: The team of researchers found that people named Dennis or

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Speaker 4: Denise tend to become dentists. I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 4: This is a BBC article. I'm reading you tend to

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Speaker 4: become dentists at a higher rate than people of other

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Speaker 4: equally popular names. And they also determined that men men

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Speaker 4: called George or Jeffrey were disproportionately likely to be published

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Speaker 4: in the geosciences over any other any other science, because

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Speaker 4: George or Geoffrey geoscience. Do you see what it is that?

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Speaker 4: Do you see what's going on? Denise dentist. It's the same.

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Speaker 4: See there is a family with the surname Limb, as

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Speaker 4: in mister Limb, but but not mister Limb, not missus Limb,

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Speaker 4: not master Limb. No, they're all Limb. They are. They're

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Speaker 4: all doctors, the whole family because the limbs urology specialists

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Speaker 4: with the surnames Dick, this is the BBC Dick, Cox,

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Speaker 4: Ball and Waterfall, and also pediatric specialists with the surnames Boys, Gal,

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Speaker 4: Child and Kinder. And that, my friend, is science.

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Speaker 24: It's well, I mean by that logic, hither you should

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Speaker 24: presumably be like into some sort of heavy lifting business

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Speaker 24: or something.

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Speaker 4: Why don't get it?

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Speaker 24: Well, heather heavy it sounds wouldn't you go with my surname?

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Speaker 3: You go Allan?

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Speaker 4: And I do love a bit of building with the Allen.

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Speaker 3: I love an Allen g.

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Speaker 4: Duplissy is like something got some French thing to do with,

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Speaker 4: like farming. Now obviously I don't speak French, and you

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Speaker 4: know my aversion to French. I hate French. I hate French.

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Speaker 4: So obviously I never got into farming.

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Speaker 24: Science, are you right? Science's melissage that well, that's the thing.

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Speaker 24: I don't even know. It's so long ago we left

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Speaker 24: the old country. I have no idea what it means.

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Speaker 24: Radio presumably aperture by Harry style to play us out

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Speaker 24: night while we're playing that.

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Speaker 25: Heather, I haven't told my husband yet. Last night, sorry,

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Speaker 25: last night the cons I was busy working. I was

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Speaker 25: doing my column and then I looked at my texts

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Speaker 25: and the concert club has bought tickets for all of

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Speaker 25: us to go to Sydney to see Harry Styles. But

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Speaker 25: I haven't had the courage to tell him yet.

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Speaker 24: Good news, Berry, You're gonna be doing some babysitting very soon.

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Speaker 4: The episode, Well, it's November. I've got lots of time to.

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Speaker 24: Tell and they've added a third show in Melbourne, so

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Speaker 24: there'll be three shows in Melbourne, two and Sydney going

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Speaker 24: gangbusters over the ferry.

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Speaker 4: Styles exactly the way that happened as well. Don't tell them,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell them. I'll tell them before November. Don't worry

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 3: See you on Monday.

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