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Speaker 1: There is hope that the Israeli hostages may be released

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Speaker 1: as early as this weekend. Hamas and Israel have agreed

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Speaker 1: to the first phase of the cease fire deal. This

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Speaker 1: is Trump's deal now. This means the hostages will be

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Speaker 1: released and Israeli troops will retreat from the front lines

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Speaker 1: of Gaza. Anasak Tit is a senior lecturer in Arab

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Speaker 1: and Islamic studies at the Australian National University and with

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Speaker 1: US high on us.

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Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: How do you rate the chances that the hostages will

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Speaker 1: be released this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Well, it is highly likely that Israeli captives in Gaza

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Speaker 2: and Palacinian prisoners held in Israeli detention camps and prisons

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Speaker 2: will also be released. It is also highly likely that

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Speaker 2: the agreement about the Israeli military withdrawing to a specific

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Speaker 2: line inside of Gaza will also be implemented in order

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Speaker 2: to facilitate the prisoners exchange. So this first step, which

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Speaker 2: is largely technical, will most likely be successful and will

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Speaker 2: be implemented over the next few hours or over the

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Speaker 2: seventy two hours rather.

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Speaker 1: Once Israel gets what it wants, which is its hostages back,

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Speaker 1: do you trust them to hold to the agreement.

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Speaker 2: I think the agreement has many ambiguous pillars, which include

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Speaker 2: the point that you're alluding to, which is the fact

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Speaker 2: that once is role has the has its captives from Gaza,

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Speaker 2: that the war may be continued or the ongoing humanitarian

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Speaker 2: situation will continue to be at its catastrophic level or

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Speaker 2: as catastrophic as it is right now. So there are

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Speaker 2: very little guarantees in the plan itself. However, the fact

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Speaker 2: that an agreement has been reached suggests that guarantees have

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Speaker 2: been put in place. In addition to that, the way

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Speaker 2: that this agreement has been communicated, whether it is by

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Speaker 2: the United States or various participants in the negotiations over

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Speaker 2: the past few days, the way that they have communicating

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Speaker 2: the communicated disagreement suggests that there are guarantees about other

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Speaker 2: plans or other pillars in this plan being implemented.

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Speaker 1: Now do we know if Hamas has There's a couple

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Speaker 1: of really curly things, right, do we know if Hamas

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Speaker 1: has agreed to give up its arms and has it

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Speaker 1: agreed to step back from governance future governance of the

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Speaker 1: Gaza Strip.

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Speaker 2: So, other than the technical aspects about prisoners exchanges and

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Speaker 2: limited Israeli withdrawals instead of Gaza. Nothing has been agreed yet.

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Speaker 2: This includes the future of the Gaza strip, the future

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Speaker 2: of Palestinian quality there, the future of governance in Gaza

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Speaker 2: is also complete withdrawal from Gaza, the lifting of the

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Speaker 2: humanitarian blockade and so on. So this hasn't been discussed

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Speaker 2: at this stage, although as I mentioned earlier, there seems

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Speaker 2: to be guarantees about at least these negotiations occurring. But

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Speaker 2: the most likely outcome is that the technical aspects will

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Speaker 2: be implemented mainly about prisoners exchanges, and then the political

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Speaker 2: aspects will more slightly for store for a very long

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Speaker 2: period of time.

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Speaker 1: All right, anest, thanks very much on us Ktite, who's

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Speaker 1: the senior lecturer in Arab and Islamic studies. Just so

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Speaker 1: you know how this is being met. The news is

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Speaker 1: being met in Tel Aviv. As soon as the news

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Speaker 1: came through, families and friends of the hostages gathered together

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Speaker 1: and it was early morning for them and they chanted

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