1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: And Barry Sooper, Senior political correspondence with US High Barring 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. You know how Mark Carney's in Australia at 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the minute. 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: Yes, which is. 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: It's been speak Well, it's because he doesn't know that 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: we exist, and I preced my evidence, I present my evidence. 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: He's speaking to the Australian Parliament in Canberra today and said, 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: let us remember that Australia was the first nation in 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the world to give women the right to vote and 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: to stand for parliament. 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: For goodness, take apparently. 12 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: They don't have Chat, GPT or Google in Canada. 13 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: We've got more speech, right. 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: David Seymour in for the Prime Minister today. 15 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, really interesting because, as you'll be well aware that 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 2: Thursdays the Philly Tame days when it comes to questions 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: in Parliament because the Prime Minister is not there. But 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: I thought David Seymour has been quite cunning today using 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: the absence of Chris Luckson to get patsy questions fired 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: of him by his own colleague Cameron Luxton. It was 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: seamo's way of showing how ACT supports some contentious issues 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: like liberalizing overseas investment. Of course, with a golden visa scheme, 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: which is very successful. Already three point five billion bucks 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: has flowed into the country and that overseas investors will 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: be able to buy houses worth more than five million 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: bucks from tomorrow. So tomorrow's the kickoff date. I think 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: I'll put the full sale sign outside the house tonight. 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: But look, there were some other issues that seem or 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: reveled in while facing his colleague obviously pre rehearse questions. 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Here they are. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: Does he stand by removing the dual landate of the 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: Reserve Bank Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister, yes, absolutely. 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Our government has told the Reserve Bank to focus exclusively 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: on controlling inflation. 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: Does he stand by reforming interest deductibility for landlords. 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister absolutely. Stand 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: by our policy of treating people and the property business 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: exactly the same as every other business in the country. 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: Does he stand by changes to pay equity. 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. Absolutely. It 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: is still possible to take an appeal if you suffer 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: from sex based discrimination. And I say to the people 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: on the other side, if they don't like it, and 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: they're going to bring pay equity back show us the money. 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: That was quite a shrewd use. Though I'm not to 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: because he's got all the issues that really act will 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: be out. It's not. It's not like pretty boring questions. 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: So what I'm interested in though, were they facing questions 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: on TV. 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: And Z Yes they were today or Goldsmith? Was that's 51 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: over the alleged buyers that we had a fairly vociferous 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: discussion on last week about the story that basically on 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: the very day that the crime rate serious assaults came 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: down by forty nine thousand, they simply ignored that and 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Rana's story about gang membership rising by three over cops 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: and you know, just ignoring the obvious. Some labors Reuben Davison, 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: though he suggested Minister Paul Goldsmith had broken the law 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: by discussing the issue with the board chair over the weekend. 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Here he is firing questions which obviously tended to explode 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: in my view before they hit the target. Have a listen. 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: Would it be appropriate for the chair of TV and 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: ZEN to raise the issue of one news media coverage 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 5: with the minister. 64 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: In the context of a board focusing on improving levels 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: of trust and the issue that's been raised. I don't 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: have a particularly strong view. He probably shouldn't have, but 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: it's certainly not a major issue. 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: Does he still have confidence in the man he appointed 69 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 5: his chair of TVNZ, Andrew Barklay, after he discussed just 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 5: one news editorial coverage with the minister contrary to the law. 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: I do have confidence in the chair. I think he's 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: doing a great job now. As everybody's conscious all around 73 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: the world, particularly since COVID, there have been drops in 74 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: trust in media generally, we would expect the board to 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: be focused on the overall effort to improve those levels 76 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: of trust. 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: So there you go. I mean, it's ridiculous to suggest 78 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: that a board chairman can't wring his minister and so look, 79 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: I saw a story on television tonight. The Minister's not 80 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: going to take any action as a result of that 81 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: that would be. 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Here that we don't know the content of the conversation. 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: That's the problem. 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Does it really matter? 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Yes, it does. Because it's not appropriate for the board 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: to be involved in editorial decision. 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Then the Minister won't become involved in editorial decisions anyway 88 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: as a result of them being told. 89 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: So you know, to me, but I guess what the 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: problem with it is that you don't know what why 91 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: did the board raise it with the minister who had 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: already complained to TV and zed what was the board's 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: interest in raising it? That's it just opens up too 94 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: many questions. Having said that, though, can I say it's 95 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: very hard to feel upset about all of this when 96 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: actually the worst thing that's happened here is not the 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: phone call. It's the bloody story, which was a chos. 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: The story was a shock, and I think if I 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: was sitting on the board at TV in Z I'd 100 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: be pretty hosed off. I wouldn't though I'd stop. Sure, yeah, because. 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: The law is so if it was awesome journalist, if 102 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: it was awesome journalism, that the board was suddenly involving itself, 103 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: and I think we'd all be a little bit more 104 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: upset about it. But the boards itself and involving itself 105 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: and some apparently some pretty cruddy journalism, right, Okay, Arry Listen, 106 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: thanks very much, appreciate it, very so for senior political correspondent. 107 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: News Talk sai'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio,