1
00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:02,800
Speaker 1: With the John and Ben podcast.

2
00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,320
Speaker 2: Cheers to Dilma making the world a bitter tea.

3
00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,880
Speaker 1: Having good to see you guys.

4
00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen you for a few years. Actually,

5
00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,719
Speaker 3: we had a TV show last time, and like Magic,

6
00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,440
Speaker 3: that disappeared.

7
00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:20,400
Speaker 1: But then like Magic, you disappeared, but all of us.

8
00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So coming back to newsyeal ten shows around the

9
00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,800
Speaker 3: country November December at the end of the year. It's

10
00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,680
Speaker 3: kind of like your so your best tricks.

11
00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,240
Speaker 1: Ever, right, It's called Dyscenium.

12
00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,640
Speaker 4: It's a celebration of my life in magic over the

13
00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,360
Speaker 4: last ten years. So it's ten effects in the show

14
00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,680
Speaker 4: ten tricks. It's only ten shows for you, guys, and

15
00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,000
Speaker 4: it's a decade ten years.

16
00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,319
Speaker 5: Excuse my uneducated ignorance. Is decinium? Does it represent ten

17
00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:46,919
Speaker 5: in some way?

18
00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,160
Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah, it's laden for ten.

19
00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:49,839
Speaker 5: I should have paid.

20
00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,280
Speaker 1: I love your numbers, don't I do.

21
00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,040
Speaker 3: Like I saw something with you doing an interview I

22
00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,840
Speaker 3: think on the AM show, and you were talking about cards, correct,

23
00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,200
Speaker 3: and how they kind of the fight. Yeah, it was

24
00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,520
Speaker 3: really interesting, though I can't remember exactly what you see.

25
00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great.

26
00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,120
Speaker 4: There are fifty two different cards in a pack. The

27
00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,040
Speaker 4: cards originally made it as a calendar, and they represent

28
00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,240
Speaker 4: the fifty two weeks in a year. The four suits

29
00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,959
Speaker 4: represent the four seasons, black cards, red cards, night and day.

30
00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,120
Speaker 1: As Auto had, the king is thirteen.

31
00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,080
Speaker 4: You add them together three hundred and sixty five. So

32
00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,640
Speaker 4: when you pick a card, it's really I got married.

33
00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,200
Speaker 4: I was with my wife for eleven years. We got

34
00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,959
Speaker 4: married on the eleventh of the eleventh. Belie, this is

35
00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,840
Speaker 4: so numbers for me are a big deal.

36
00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,959
Speaker 5: Yeah. And do you make important life decisions based on numbers?

37
00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,479
Speaker 1: Yes?

38
00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,040
Speaker 4: I do, Yes, Yeah, Lucky I walked past you, guys,

39
00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,759
Speaker 4: I felt like a good numbers that lot of come

40
00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,680
Speaker 4: in and do the interview.

41
00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,920
Speaker 1: You know, I die, but I do like numbers. Yeah,

42
00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,040
Speaker 1: but I don't base. I don't. I don't sit at

43
00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,480
Speaker 1: home and so well, we can't go ab out that day.

44
00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 3: You've had, you know, huge TV specials, you've traveled the world.

45
00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,200
Speaker 3: What sort of tracks can people expect to see?

46
00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,320
Speaker 5: Like?

47
00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,600
Speaker 3: What are we talking? When they went?

48
00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 4: And it's my favorite effects, my favorite tricks people appearing, disappearing, levitating, teleporting, crazy, death, defying, escape,

49
00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,960
Speaker 4: so knives dangling above my heads. People come up, they

50
00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,600
Speaker 4: examine everything, they check everything out, They make sure it's

51
00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,000
Speaker 4: all real. You can participate as much as you want,

52
00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,200
Speaker 4: or just sit and watch it observed. Because I'm the

53
00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,520
Speaker 4: kind of person who goes to show. I don't want

54
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,120
Speaker 4: to get evolved. I don't want to be on stage

55
00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,760
Speaker 4: when I'm watching a show. Right, But other people you'd

56
00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,720
Speaker 4: be surprised you want to get up that way.

57
00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,600
Speaker 2: But then if you have someone in an audience who's

58
00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,880
Speaker 2: like me, do you steer away from that? Yes, I

59
00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:31,639
Speaker 2: need to look the other way.

60
00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,120
Speaker 4: I'll be like, if you look the other way, then

61
00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:39,440
Speaker 4: i will select you. Just be normal, Just be normal.

62
00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:42,480
Speaker 4: Kids do that and then they get up on stage

63
00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,000
Speaker 4: and they freeze you.

64
00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,320
Speaker 1: Probably.

65
00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, seeing it in person, We've seen you do some

66
00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200
Speaker 3: tricks before. It's amazing, and it's amazing seeing it with

67
00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,600
Speaker 3: your own eyes through TV. That where you kind of go.

68
00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,880
Speaker 1: On TV, right, you go, that's an actor that's set

69
00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,919
Speaker 1: up crazy.

70
00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,840
Speaker 2: And people ask me afterwards, they're like, tell us about

71
00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,840
Speaker 2: it to get pecked.

72
00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, it blew my min.

73
00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,000
Speaker 1: It's better live.

74
00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to just sing it with your own eyes.

75
00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,480
Speaker 1: It's very very powerful. It's much more potent. Magic needs

76
00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,320
Speaker 1: to be performed live.

77
00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,079
Speaker 2: You seem levitating, right.

78
00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,280
Speaker 4: People levitate, disappear, teleport, I walk through a steel plate.

79
00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,200
Speaker 3: What's the most nervous you are before a track like

80
00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,760
Speaker 3: one trek in particular that you've done that, You've gone Jesus,

81
00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,320
Speaker 3: this could go wrong. I mean all the time. It

82
00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,120
Speaker 3: could go wrong.

83
00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,680
Speaker 4: During the stunts, the underwater escapes. You've done a two

84
00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,360
Speaker 4: hour show. You're crazy, You're like energy ah, and then

85
00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,440
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, ive got to jump in a

86
00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,920
Speaker 4: tank and lower my heart rate, be calm. It's like,

87
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,520
Speaker 4: how do you become after two hours of energizing the audience,

88
00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,160
Speaker 4: having to deal.

89
00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,600
Speaker 5: With mean.

90
00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 1: Stuff correct? And then you've got to lower everything down.

91
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,720
Speaker 1: So that's really really challenging. So this is you.

92
00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,920
Speaker 5: You would chain yourself up and go into a tank

93
00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,120
Speaker 5: and have to WOWE, that is a real gear change

94
00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,560
Speaker 5: for you. Have there been moments we've been in that tank,

95
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,280
Speaker 5: locked up and you're like, has it ever gone a

96
00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,040
Speaker 5: little too long?

97
00:03:59,200 --> 00:03:59,400
Speaker 1: Yep?

98
00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,000
Speaker 3: Did you know hospital after one?

99
00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

100
00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,880
Speaker 4: I got slashed by knife, I got toss stitches in

101
00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,200
Speaker 4: my chin, hit my head, my forehead, I got seven

102
00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,640
Speaker 4: in there. I blew my ear drum going underwater. I

103
00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,920
Speaker 4: cracked two ribs. I broke my ankle hanging outside down.

104
00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,080
Speaker 4: That's that was all in one week, so it sounds

105
00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,920
Speaker 4: like I don't know what I'm doing.

106
00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,200
Speaker 5: The huge element of danger.

107
00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,719
Speaker 3: It was the first trick because I think magic. He

108
00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,200
Speaker 3: got a book as a kid, right, it was the

109
00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,800
Speaker 3: first trick.

110
00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,160
Speaker 4: I made a coin vanish for my father, who's a

111
00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,320
Speaker 4: structural engine. You're thinking that's not impressive, right, all kids

112
00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,240
Speaker 4: make money disappears.

113
00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000
Speaker 1: That's not really. It was a trick and.

114
00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,080
Speaker 4: The coin vanished, very simple slide of hands called the

115
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,000
Speaker 4: French drop vanished. But my father hadn't seen magic, and

116
00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,440
Speaker 4: he said to me, how did you do it?

117
00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:39,719
Speaker 3: Now?

118
00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,240
Speaker 1: As a kid? Can you imagine? To me?

119
00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,920
Speaker 4: He was My father was this genius who made bridges

120
00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,400
Speaker 4: and buildings stand up using mathematics, and I managed to

121
00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,320
Speaker 4: baffle him for him And there's a huge amount of

122
00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,280
Speaker 4: power that happens as a kid who I was really

123
00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,320
Speaker 4: struggling with school or things were problematic. So I could

124
00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,240
Speaker 4: do something that nobody else could do. And that's where

125
00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,320
Speaker 4: the obsession began.

126
00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,520
Speaker 1: I started.

127
00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, were your family supportive of your career?

128
00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:04,400
Speaker 1: Yes?

129
00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,360
Speaker 4: In the beginning, because magic helped me to come out

130
00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,320
Speaker 4: of my shell and read and be better student at school.

131
00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,479
Speaker 1: My mother was a school principal, so that was.

132
00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,160
Speaker 4: Very happy, and my father was happy because now I

133
00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,760
Speaker 4: was being a normal human and I was talking to

134
00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,599
Speaker 4: people and not being so shy. And then it becomes

135
00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,040
Speaker 4: a Dad, I really want to do this, and he's

136
00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320
Speaker 4: like no, no, Now it starts to change a little bit.

137
00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,279
Speaker 4: Seventeen He's like, yeah, this was just a hobbit, correct,

138
00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,600
Speaker 4: I've got this engineering for a Mother was very encouraging,

139
00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,680
Speaker 4: father not so much.

140
00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,320
Speaker 1: And then so there was always this so I had

141
00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,440
Speaker 1: to prove myself, prove myself for myself.

142
00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,800
Speaker 4: And I remember finishing high school, going to university for

143
00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,760
Speaker 4: a year, and then I said, I got this offer

144
00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,560
Speaker 4: to be on a cruise ship as a headliner, and

145
00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,160
Speaker 4: I said to my father, let me just give it

146
00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,640
Speaker 4: a shop for a year. I'll take a leave of

147
00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,560
Speaker 4: absence from my studies and I'll come back and I'm

148
00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,760
Speaker 4: still absent from the studies.

149
00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,080
Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's cool, that's how it happened. That's how

150
00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,800
Speaker 1: good for you two.

151
00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,200
Speaker 4: And then he backed it in the end, and then

152
00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,400
Speaker 4: they couldn't be more more more proud. Now my father, yeah,

153
00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,160
Speaker 4: he introduces me every to everybody.

154
00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,720
Speaker 1: As you know, this is my son the magician.

155
00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, now you're going to do a bit of a

156
00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,200
Speaker 5: trick for us. Now is an audio trick or more

157
00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:10,880
Speaker 5: of a visual one.

158
00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,520
Speaker 4: It's a visual cameras rolling you can describe and cameras

159
00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:14,960
Speaker 4: are rolling.

160
00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay.

161
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,880
Speaker 1: So we'll do it.

162
00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,880
Speaker 5: But we are shocking at painting pictures with words. But

163
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:19,440
Speaker 5: we'll give it out.

164
00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,880
Speaker 3: But you can see it on social as well.

165
00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,719
Speaker 1: We'll check it out. Yeah, ok I've got an iPhone

166
00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah there as well. Okay, so what have we got.

167
00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,440
Speaker 1: We've got a packet of tick texts. Yeah, you can

168
00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,160
Speaker 1: have the real tic texts. Would you like one?

169
00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,560
Speaker 5: Okay, Megan offering.

170
00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,560
Speaker 3: I always feel like I'm going to screw up the

171
00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,360
Speaker 3: track somehow, but just him telling me I've got baby, Yeah,

172
00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,080
Speaker 3: maybe yeah, take one? Okay, yeah, yeah, real okay, real

173
00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:41,640
Speaker 3: tic texts.

174
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,760
Speaker 5: Okay, in the mouth his mouth and on the end

175
00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,880
Speaker 5: of his tongue. Yeah, it looks like he's swallowing it.

176
00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,080
Speaker 4: He's made.

177
00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,120
Speaker 1: Are you impressed? Yeah you didn't even sure it impressive.

178
00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's standing up now okay, breathing in through his nose.

179
00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,400
Speaker 5: No, no gonna come.

180
00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:23,240
Speaker 6: It's underneath his right now coming out, it's out, it's out.

181
00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,960
Speaker 1: Did he put me out of his eye? I can't

182
00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,720
Speaker 1: do eyes. Oh my god.

183
00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,760
Speaker 2: It's peppermint flavor and it has made your eye water.

184
00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,240
Speaker 2: I guess because it's minty fresh.

185
00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,240
Speaker 1: You swallowed it and popped out of your your right eyeball.

186
00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh dig, that was horrific to what isn't that fun?

187
00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,000
Speaker 6: Wow, that's a mad press.

188
00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,600
Speaker 1: You go along and see Costentino.

189
00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,840
Speaker 3: You're incredible. Ten shows around the country November December this year.

190
00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,120
Speaker 3: You can get all the details that endeavor dot live

191
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,560
Speaker 3: slash Costantino. So nice to see you again. Thank you

192
00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,400
Speaker 3: very much for wowing us once more.

193
00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,559
Speaker 5: How many tic texts leading around your body you lasted

194
00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,360
Speaker 5: along the way